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Speaker 4Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday.
Speaker 5How are you?
Speaker 4I'm good. I just, my daughter just got her six-month vaccines literally 30 minutes ago. Ran back home. How's she feeling? She cried. I was not happy, but it's okay. She's doing good now.
Speaker 5Yeah. Does she, do you do the nap right away approach?
Speaker 4No, she doesn't want to sleep. She doesn't sleep much. She doesn't like sleeping.
Speaker 5Cool. Everyone loves a baby that doesn't sleep.
Speaker 4Yeah. You see, you see. I need Botox.
Speaker 5I'm kidding. The Botox doesn't fix that. You can't even like fake being old. Well, you know.
Speaker 4Anyways, welcome to the Raging Perspective. Uh, featuring me and Jessica Tarlov, my really good friend over to my left. If you haven't yet subscribed, make sure to hit the subscribe button. If you're on sub stack up here, if I, if you're on YouTube down there and we do this every week. So we're excited to be here with you because it is been a crazy week.
Speaker 5Huh, Jess? Huh, Aaron? Yeah. It's been a crazy week. Uh, boy, it has been a crazy week. Trump is teasing a midterm surprise that he says could make history, but he's not saying what it is. The mystery alive. He hinted that OMB director and architect of project 2020 to 2025 Russ vote. Every time I hear Russ votes name, it feels so Voldemorty to me. Um, he's behind some major announcement coming in the next few weeks, um, which might just be, we have no more constitution. Uh, that comes as Trump's support amongst Latino voters is slipping. 42% of them say that they regret or are disappointed with their 2024 vote for Trump and 11% of Trump 2024 voters overall say they regret their choice. Uh, what be this surprise after all of that?
Speaker 4What would be the surprise? Yeah. Um, I am actually genuinely concerned about this Russ Vought midterm surprise situation because one of the biggest stories that wasn't really covered yesterday that came out was the fact that for the first time in over 20 years, the Trump administration has denied international election, observers from coming into the United States of America. They do this every two years. They did it under Trump in 2018. They did it in 2020 international election observers come in. They observed the election. They make sure that it is run free fairly only two other countries in the world deny, uh, international election observers, not China, not Venezuela, not even Iran. I mean, they don't have elections, but, um, so I guess Russia and Belarus are the only two countries that deny international election observers and countries that have, um, election. So we are on par with Russia and Belarus and it comes as we have the midterm surprise, which I think his tweet or his truth social posts refer to, um, a surprise in terms of Republicans winning, but I'm really kind of tired of having to interpret what he has to say, right? Like that. It, I think that is my biggest takeaway from this entire week. I don't want to interpret whether or not he means we're bombing Los Angeles and San Diego, allowing Iran to do that. Or if he meant that, uh, higher gas prices are a small price to pay to avoid that. I don't want to interpret that. He said what he said. Same thing with this. I don't want to interpret what a midterm surprise is and what he means when he says Russ Vought's going to be one of the most consequential figures in American history. He says what he says, and I'm just going to take him at his word. And I think most media should as
Speaker 5well. What do you think, or how would you grade, I guess, the response to it? Like whatever the opposition is brewing, obviously folks like Norm Eisen and Mark Elias are working, the court system game here to make sure that, you know, they have something ready to go at every turn. And I think I've been doing an exceptional job. The courts themselves perspective of what these democratic super lawyers are doing are also holding steady, um, in defense of the constitution and protecting people's right to vote. Um, but what about the opposition, the political opposition to this? Do you think that the threat of them you know, playing dangerous games with the midterms is being taken seriously enough, you know, by Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer? And I think it's being taken seriously.
Speaker 4Um, I think everyone is very serious about it. I think they're putting out very strongly worded tweets about it. Um, and behind the scenes, they're doing these tabletop exercises. I was a part of one of them. Um, but being a part of that tabletop exercise and seeing how people are operating behind the this with any pleasure, but no one is prepared. No one is prepared to the level where they need to be. Because I think the playbook that Democrats and Republicans, but primarily Democrats, have run when it comes to elections and election security and filing lawsuits and all that jazz is a very stale playbook. In this day and age, an AI-generated video of voter fraud terrifies me because that will go viral in an instant and there's nothing that Democrats have to combat it right now. And that should terrify you too, because social media platforms aren't going to take it down. Elon Musk isn't going to take down an AI-generated video of someone committing voter fraud. And then ultimately that could be used by Trump to do something even scarier. So I think they're taking it seriously. I don't think they're prepared.
Speaker 5Yeah, I would just add to that, that you know, you have about 60% of Republicans who think that Joe Biden didn't win the election in 2020. And those are on claims of voter fraud, where there was no video of it and where they lost in court on top of it. You just hear these vague things like Jesse Waters always talks about like Wanda, the ballot stuffer. I don't know if that's a real person that worked in Fulton County. And he's got one in every swing state. He's got like his Philly lady and Arizona. So think what they could do with the right technology. And while the tide does seem to be turning against the Trump administration, I think we're going to have to wait and see. But I think we're going to have to wait and see. I think we're going to have to wait and see. Elon Musk is the only one who is not. And he is digging in deeper. I mean, also, I guess, parting ways with his longtime partner in very public fashion. But he is going to be spending like he did in the 2024 election. And I do think that the plan is to make the entire government run on grok.
Speaker 4That's terrifying. But I know, actually, it's not. Can I tell you something? It's somewhat terrifying. And I'll give you the one caveat, because grok was right. And a lot of the times when they instituted grok in America.gov, and I asked whether there was voter fraud in the 2020 election, grok told me there wasn't. When when I asked for
Speaker 520 seconds, it told you the
Speaker 4truth. So so grok's instincts were correct until they tried it until they started to change grok. But it depends on which version of grok we get, I guess.
Speaker 5Well, Elon Musk is grok daddy. And Elon Musk will change it. Change it however he needs to. And also grok's hallucinations are some of the most vile stuff you could imagine. It's insane. Grok's core is a white nationalist. Yes. Okay. Now to France. Third week of escalating student protests over the state of public schools and yesterday's were some of the most violent yet. The prime minister has suspended high school classes in the country for the rest of the week. And police have now fired tear gas and water cannons at protesters blockading high schools. They are estimating that 256,000 people have participated. You have hundreds that have been injured, 6,000 arrested. What do you make of what's going on in France right now?
Speaker 4Yeah, admittedly, I wasn't really following it too much until recently, until I literally hours before our podcast today.
Speaker 5Oh, is it a newbie for you?
Speaker 4Well, there's so much insanity happening in the United States of America for me to cover. And so for me, I was like, you know, I'm going to go to France. I'm going to go to France. I'm going to go to You're like, oh, the Frenchies are protesting.
Speaker 5That's what a lot of people have been saying. Like, you know, they they do like a protest.
Speaker 4I will say the one thing is, though, that Shout out to the young people. And that is my biggest takeaway in all of this. Shout out to the young people because young people are rising up, not just in France, but across the world. And when they see something they don't like, they are rising up and they are making their voices heard. And I think the right to protest is a fundamental right for any person, should be a fundamental right worldwide. We don't have the First Amendment in every country across the globe, but I think students should be allowed to protest if they see a disservice happening, if they don't believe in something. Now, there is a difference between peaceful protests and violent protests, and violent protests is never the answer. And so as long as protests remain peaceful and people continue to make their voices heard, fine, good. Go a step further. Say you're going to do an economic blackout. I mean, you have two options. School is at your disposal. And so that's kind of my take.
Speaker 5Yeah. Beyond that, just a little bit of the backstory as to what these protests are about. They started protesting in support of their teachers who were striking because of lack of staffing and resources. The demands, the original demands of the teachers were actually met, but it had escalated so far by that point that it turned into this national crisis. Trump, of course, has gotten involved and said that this is a. Radical Islam, which has nothing to do with what's going on here. There's no evidence. Yeah. So we're just taking our fear mongering here and spreading it out all over, which is definitely part of an electoral strategy since elections are about what you're afraid of, not actually a positive affirmation or worldview. But this is setting up because they'll have elections next year in France, a showdown between the far left and the far right. I was reading a number of pieces about this. The center of French politics has really been edged out or pushed out of the main conversation. And I think that's mirroring what goes on, obviously, in a lot of other countries, but really how people feel about politics, where it does not seem like anyone is seeking or able to capture this middle ground. I don't know how the education ministry is going to get this under control. I saw that they launched an online portal where students can voice their concerns. But looking at the footage, I don't. I don't think that a portal is going to be the solution that makes these kids feel like they're being heard. And also, I mean, they have a big budget problem there just flat out. And, you know, you see the footage of what's going on in these schools, the overcrowding, kids who don't have desks. And you understand why people would take to the streets over something like that.
Speaker 4Yeah. No, I completely understand it. And that's why I'm fully supportive of students. And that's why I'm fully supportive of students who are doing this. And as long as it stays peaceful, that's all that matters.
Speaker 5Yeah. We have to work a little bit on the peaceful part. Well, just in pockets. But also, I mean, there's an argument to be made that police have been escalating as well and using tear gas against kids. All right. The first of four debates in just 10 days. How insane is it that Troy Jackson and Susan Collins are debating four times in 10 days? That's insane. That's like a marriage where you have dinner together, like four of 10 days.
Speaker 4No one wants this. I don't know anyone who's like, I want four debates in 10 days.
Speaker 5I'm desperate for more Troy Jackson and Susan Collins.
Speaker 4I don't want that. I am good.
Speaker 5Well, you're going to get it.
Speaker 4I'm going to get it. They're going to force feed it to me.
Speaker 5They went head to head for the first time last night, tackling issues like immigration, tariffs and the rising cost of fuel. Let's take a look at a little bit of the debate.
Speaker 6You know, eight years ago today, Maine woman went to D.C. and begged Senator Collins not to confirm. Brett Kavanaugh, but she did it anyways, even though they begged her. He helped overturn Roe versus Wade. And today she says she has no regrets. And I would wonder for everyone, including myself, would you trust her to pick the next Supreme Court justice?
Speaker 7Troy mocked it, but I was successful in getting concrete, pulp and road salt removed from the tariff list.
Speaker 6I didn't mock the fact that. She got road salt back. I mocked the fact that. What about everything else? I mean, we can't eat road salt. I'm not going to give her credit for getting one thing back when we have thousands of things that people are having to pay more money for because she won't let Donald Trump. She won't talk back against Donald Trump.
Speaker 5What was your big takeaway from the night? Besides, you don't want to see three more of these.
Speaker 4Listen, my big takeaway is this. Troy Jackson got a good hit on Susan Collins. That was great. And it's going to go viral. It went viral for 24 hours. And then we're. Now moving on. I think debates are fun, but debates don't decide elections, in my opinion. I don't think they've if you look at historically, unless you have like a very bad crash and burn debate, which neither of them did last night, you're not going to see radical changes in the main polling after this debate, in my opinion. And I actually think the four debates in 10 is going to do a disservice to Troy Jackson, because if it was just this one debate and they came and he won this debate free and clear, but now she's going to have the opportunity to kind of try to punch back. Or whatever. But I don't know. I mean, listen, I I'm a fan. I like debates. So it was fun to watch. I liked watching the debate in Iowa also between Rob Sand and the Republican. That was a fun one to watch. A debate is a debate. I think that I don't I think a lot of the election results between now and November are already in a lot of ways baked in. I think you're really fighting over margins at this point. You're not going to see a 10 point swing in a race unless something insane happens. And so you're fighting over one or two points here or there. And I don't know that last night moves the needle for either of them.
Speaker 5So Susan Collins is very slow and steady, wins the race. And I think back to 2020 and I think she's in worse position than she was then. You know, she is six years older, many more years of voting against Maynard's interests, you know, siding with Donald Trump. I think the Brett Kavanaugh vote matters a lot to people. And she tried to hit Troy Jackson because he was formerly. A pro-life. And she said, well, only one of us, you know, has been pro-choice our entire career. We can't really like tout that as one of your credentials. If you put Brett Kavanaugh on the court who, you know, swore up and down that he was going to respect precedent and then went ahead and voted for the Dobbs decision. But what was interesting in the latest slew of New York Times Siena polls, which were generally very good for Democrats, had Susan Collins up three. And none of the surveys going into the election in 2020 had Susan Collins beating. Sarah Gideon. And she ended up winning by what? Nine points. Yeah.
Speaker 4So and I've been actually sounding the alarm about the main race for a long time. I am less confident in Maine than I am in Texas right now. Like, I think James Tallarico has a better shot of flipping Texas than Troy Jackson does Maine. And part of that is because Ken Paxton is one of the worst candidates I think you can put up. And then on the flip side, Susan Collins is one of the most is one of the strongest candidates Republicans have this cycle. She doesn't sound great. She doesn't like whatever she has her. It's false. But at the end of the day, Mainers love her for whatever reason. Many of them.
Speaker 5And they know a lot of it is the reliability. And I've spoken to left leaning people in the state who are small business owners, for instance. And they say that Susan Collins has delivered for them. I do think voting with Trump 95 percent of the time is a pretty salient attack point. And I do think that their exchange, which wasn't in our package about ice, was a big one since. I ice murdered someone in Maine. Susan Collins got very deeply concerned and a strongly worded letter and all the things about it, but did vote for more ice funding. Mm hmm. Support for the show comes from AG1. As we get deeper into fall, things start to feel a little different. The time changes. It's pitch dark when you wake up and sometimes you let things slip a little like your diet. Not to worry, because you can get things back on track. With the help of AG1. AG1 is a daily health drink with multivitamin, pre and probiotics, superfoods and antioxidants. It helps you maintain energy, support gut health and support immune health. High quality nutritional support every single day, no matter where you start your morning. Our producer, Eric, has tried AG1 and this is what he thinks.
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Speaker 5What we're after. You brought up Paxton. I was going to do Michigan next, but let's go to Texas where Ken Paxton is stinking up the place. He's blaming some of his campaign struggles on the Iran war and rising gas prices, which is legit. It's also him. But at a private fundraiser, he reportedly told donors that affordability is by far our biggest problem. And admitted, I don't make the decisions. We've got this leaked audio and it should know because this is the third dispatch from that same donor meeting. Whoever recorded it is slow dripping this out to make it extra miserable for Ken Paxton and increase the chances that Donald Trump nukes him and Los Angeles and San Diego. So let's listen to that.
Speaker 4Not San Diego. Pete Hexeth is there right now. So it can't be San Diego.
Speaker 5Tomorrow. Tomorrow. And there are Republicans in San Diego. I think he forgot.
Speaker 13The war at the gas prices is diesel. It's over $6 a gallon of diesel. I mean, it's sort of killing the pension. So I'd say that's probably the biggest problem in that push drive that food prices and everything else. I'm just trying to find ways that I can help people. That's the only way I can propose legislation. You can't stop the war. Right. I have no control over gas prices. So many of the factors in this federal race are uncontrollable. I don't make the decision. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's behind.
Speaker 5Obviously, a bit muffled with the audio is probably in someone's pocket. But do you think this has an impact?
Speaker 4I don't know. No, I don't think so. I mean, like I said, from the first audio, it only has an impact if Trump says something or if Trump pulls money out.
Speaker 5That's going back to Texas.
Speaker 4I know. I it's just if I have a feeling and I'm going to make a prediction that he's going to go there today and he's going to be like, Ken Paxton, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like the guy. But pretend I'm Ken Paxton and I'm on the ballot. That's what he's going to say. And I think that will do harm to Ken Paxton. I just I don't know any other candidate that puts themselves in a position to get recorded like this all the time. Like this is now the third. And I'm sure there's more. We have 28 days to go.
Speaker 5The Tallarico team is running an extraordinary operation in terms of like what their, the creativity with the ads. Did you see their scandal ad that they did about Ken Paxton where you can like parlay his scandals?
Speaker 4No, but that's pretty cool.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's pretty cool. And stuff like this. And anyway, I just think that they're running a brilliant race. And as you said, you're more confident in Texas than you are in Maine. I don't want to have my heart broken all over the place. I'm Michigan. I don't know if there's more concerned as we are. Yeah, I am. So there have been a couple of surveys that have, I'll say it up like, you know, four or five points. And then there have been a couple of very high quality ones, including the Fox poll contest is out today with just a one point spread, which frankly would make more sense. Alyssa Slotkin only won this race by 22,000 votes last time. And it was a very Trumpy environment, you know, very red environment. And that is not the case. It's pretty blue. But CNN had a big piece on how Al-Sayed is struggling to shore up key constituencies with Black voters, with Jewish voters. Apparently he called Hassan Piker and said, like, please stop talking at this point. And obviously he was at least some part of his campaign strategy in the beginning since they campaigned together at his request, but is not feeling it anymore and knows rhetoric is costing him votes. How are you feeling about Michigan?
Speaker 4I think Abdul's going to win. I think Abdul's going to win by one or two points. I think it's going to be a close race. I never thought Abdul would win by 10 points. I don't think if Haley Stevens was on the ballot, she'd win by 10 points. I also think it'd be a 2.3 point race. I think it'd be close. I think Abdul and the fact that Jocelyn Benson is at the top of the ticket is going to really help him. Yes. Just like it would have helped Haley, it would have helped any Democrat running for Senate. I arguably think Mike Rogers is a stronger Republican than John James is. And so given the fact that he's-
Speaker 5I totally think Mike Rogers is stronger than John James.
Speaker 4Yeah. And so I think Abdul will end up winning Michigan. And I think it'll be a close race, just like Michigan is every year. I just think that we're going to see a lot coming out of that state. And a lot of it is just noise, like this whole Hassan Piker stuff, like him calling Hassan Piker and telling him to pipe down. The average Michigan voter is never going to see this CNN article and is not going to even know that it actually happened.
Speaker 5And so- Are you saying we live in a bubble?
Speaker 4We live in a major bubble. And listen, it doesn't matter how often Neera Tanden and Mediasan argue on Twitter, that doesn't translate to votes on the ground in Michigan. People just like to argue, to argue on Twitter. And that's fine. Let them do that. But yeah, I think Michigan voters care about affordability.
Speaker 5I agree. I mean, generally speaking, though, I wish the fighting would get off of my algorithm. I guess it's my fault because my eyes stick on it for too long. So they think I like it. I do think that- I do think that there is still very important work to be done with Black voters and with Jewish voters. And I know that he has a path to winning without getting the same margins that past candidates, Democratic candidates have done. But it does feel like there's- I don't want to leave anything on the floor, essentially. And hopefully that good work will be done. I was heartened to hear that. And I think that's a good thing. I think that's a good thing. Five said voting for Abdul and everybody else agreed that if they didn't vote for Abdul, they just wouldn't vote at all.
Speaker 4And I know this may hurt you a little bit. I don't believe any of these polls. Like, none of these polls, I believe, none of these pollsters, I think, are doing a good job this cycle. I literally throw every single poll out the window. Yeah, I know. And I know you as a veteran pollster, probably.
Speaker 5Not old enough for a veteran. But yes, I believe in the data.
Speaker 4Until a poll can accurately measure Michigan, which it hasn't actually been able to do in many election cycles. Like, Alyssa Slotkin was predicted to win by five or six points by the polls, and she almost lost. Kamala Harris was projected to win Michigan. I mean, like, I don't know. I kind of throw polls out the window. I think people need to vote and stop looking at polls.
Speaker 5Yeah. I mean, always run like you're behind. Are you into this Christian YouTuber, Gabe? How do you pronounce his name? Poirot? I don't know. Who said that he spent 18 days in heaven during a coma after a
Speaker 42021 skateboard crash? This is your channel.
Speaker 5Your into it. It was kind of crazy, though.
Speaker 4Anyway. I think we should air it.
Speaker 14Yeah. What did he look like when you saw him?
Speaker 15Pure fire. He was 5'11", like six feet, yet as tall as eternity. Like an ocean of love, yet his eyes were burning white and red at the same time. And I mean, talk about testosterone, like a Mustang. I'm telling you.
Speaker 4You know, I really thought like Kaylee McEnany was just sitting there and like having to pretend this, but I firmly believe she believed all of it and she was just eating it up.
Speaker 5I'm not sure. I'm also filled with a little bit of regret for going down this path like a Mustang. I'm glad that he's okay, though, and woke up from his coma.
Speaker 4I'm glad that he's okay. And my views are mine, not anyone else's.
Speaker 5Yes. Eyes like fire. Now to your questions. Okay. Bill Walters asks, do you think we'll make it to the election without Trump messing with it?
Speaker 4No. Oh, actually, let me reframe. Make it to the election, yes. What happens on the election? Yes. Yes. and in the days after that,
Speaker 5I don't think so. That is the period like between swearing in the new cohort. That is where the damage really gets done. And that's what we saw last time as well. You know, I think they've been trying to perfect that playbook. And that's why we need to win. It needs to be too big to rig. Big Bagel wants to know what happens when Democrats take the Senate in the House, but Trump continues to ignore Congress courts.
Speaker 4That's the only thing that can happen. But I don't I mean, I don't think Democrats will be able to pass any or any legislation passed by Democrats will be signed into law. So I think you'll continue ignoring them in that respect. But they'll have oversight ability to subpoena and get them into the courts.
Speaker 5Yeah, I do think even though I'm not a big like impeach, impeach, impeach type person, and Aaron, I disagree about where oversight should go first. The impact. Incorrect.
Speaker 4We agree. I think oversight should. The facts should lead to whatever outcome the facts lead to.
Speaker 5Well, yeah, I'm not saying like impeach based on nothing. I'm just saying I don't think it's the most salient argument for getting the gavel back. If that is what we're going to be focused on, it has to be this affordability agenda first. And then Jared Kushner in the hot seat next. If Trump had not gone to war with Iran with the impact on gas prices, would Republicans keep both houses? No, I think
Speaker 4they would still lose the house. I think they keep the Senate,
Speaker 5but yeah, the Senate is definitely in play because of the bad decisions. I would add tariffs also to that, which I saw, you know, Mike Rogers today. He doesn't like tariffs anymore. He woke up and was like, not into this.
Speaker 4All right. That's it.
Speaker 5That's a raging
Speaker 4perspective for today. Thank you guys for coming. See you next week.
Speaker 5See you next week. Bye.
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