Antonio Reynoso: Becoming NYC’s First Dominican Borough President

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A podcast by Honey German. Bienvenidos to another episode of Gracias, come again. I'm going to kick it off in Spanish off the rib because my guest today is Dominic Gano. See, see, see. Brooklyn Barrow President Antonio Reino. So welcome to Gracias, come again. Thank you so much for having me. Happy to be here. This is going to be a lot of fun. I'm excited to get into this. Now, you are so dope and I am so impressed with you, your trajectory. And just what you represent for us. Latinos, New Yorkers, Dominicans. I'm like, nah, nah, nah, nah, that's my man. I said, I haven't met him yet, but he's already the homey. I appreciate it. No, look, I've done so much work in this community. I started when I was like 20 years old into politics because Barack Obama. And I was just born into a crazy time in politics. But it's always good to just come home and be with my people. And just be able to tell people what it is we're doing for them and how we're helping. But always, always fun to get on and be able to educate and form people on the work we're doing. Son of Dominican immigrants. Yes. Talk to me. Capitaleños. So, my parents, my father was a milk herder, right? So, we come from, you know, modest means. We're all right in DR. But they came here from the Dominican Republic in the late 1970s. So, I told people all the time, welfare, food stamps, section eight. Like, we were in every single government subsidy that existed. We had to take advantage of it so that we have food in our stomachs. We were struggling at the beginning, you know, as immigrants and, you know, as, you know, our parents, someone, they didn't even speak English. How do you get a proper job or anything when you don't even speak the language when you land? My father worked as a, he worked on a golf resort, like chasing, like, going to find the golf balls when people hit it the wrong way. Where, where? In Long Island? No, Pine Hollows, yeah, in Long Island. Pine Hollows, I don't even, I've been there one time, but Pine House. That's in Woodbury? I think so. I think so too. Yeah, there you go. Oh, I know exactly. He used to, he used to, he started working there. And then he went and started, he became a cook in Park Avenue. And then he went back there towards the end before he retired and went back to the Dominican Republic. So he did that. Oh, he's there now? No, my father passed away in February. Oh, sorry, just recently passed away. Yeah, but he's, he was a happy and joyful person. So he's, you know, I know he's smiling and having a good time wherever he is. And my mother is a home health aide. So she takes care of, you know, like, you hit that. Give him back, give him back and loving, you know, the elderly and the vulnerable, the people that need that help, you know. You know, it's a, it's a job that people take for granted. We have a growing aging population and not enough people to take care of these folks. So you see a lot of them struggle dying earlier than they need to not getting the care that they need. So, you know, my mom's job even though it's like a low wage job. It's been meaningful to her. It's a very important job. You know, you could get paid millions and not make an impact. How about that? Exactly, exactly. And I feel like my mom, I'm telling you, she's one of those crazy Dominican ladies. She's always busy, always washing dishes, washing clothes, can never stay still. Stop. Why are you describing me right now? Well, she's retired. My mom is retired. Oh, she's retired? 18 hours. If you work for 18 hours a week, you still can consider yourself retired. So she's working 18 hours a week. I'm like, mom, you got to get hit. She bought a house in D.R. I don't know. I don't know. And Puerto Plata. And La Vijay Sabela is what it's called. Okay. (Speaking Spanish) If you rest, you rest. Exactly. Hello. (Speaking Spanish) Let's talk about education. Yes, yes. Your college journey. So, you know, my family. I read on your background on your college journey and I saw all things. There's a lot of things, but you know, when I was very young, the generation of my cousins that came from the Dominican Republic, and they were maybe, they were like 15, I was born in New York City. They weren't. They got involved in some terrible things in the drug trade. (Speaking Spanish) So I have cousins that are dead, some that are deported, some of that are arrested. And we had my art, I noted my espionage, one of the first ones. And she decided that she was going to start sending her kids and all the nephews. We were all going to go to private school. So we ended up going to a private Catholic school. I went to Lasal Academy, which is if you know anything about private schools, like God, Shyam God went there, run our test went there. So we went to that school and saved my family's life. All of the young people started becoming professionals on college. That's so right. Yeah, so she just because we can't lose another generation to the drugs and to cocaine. It was the south side of Winnesburg in the 70s and 80s. It was wild. They wanted to protect us from that. So after my elementary school, I went there. And then I went to college in Syracuse, a place called the Moin College. I tell people, I got a 1.4 GPA. I read that. I said, and here we are. A Brooklyn Borough president. What type of GPA? You know what though? When I first got there, it was a culture shock. I went to a school. I was the only black boy in the room. And you know, and you live in New York City. There's only probably one white guy in New York City. Exactly. You are the majority in New York City. Exactly. So it was just a culture shock. I was not, I wasn't ready for school. But I had a mentor called Carl Thomas. It was one of the first black men that ever graduated from that school. And he was a great mentor. And he still worked in the school. I love that. And he just was like, tough love. A lot of tough love. And he was just like, no excuses. He's like, stop being lazy. Stop making excuses. And he always said, you want to go back to the block? Is that what you want to do? And he really turned my life around and believed in me. And it's because of him that I'm here. Yeah. And while I was reading on that, you know, there was a line that stuck with me. It was like, he said, like, we don't have the luxury of not having a plan. Can we speak on that? How, you know, we don't as black and brown have that luxury? He said, you're too poor not to plan. He was like, what do you mean? He's like, you don't have the luxury of just like waiting around. Because your parents don't have any money. So when you go back, you're not a trust fund baby. You're not going to be able to go and explore the first three years of your life. You're going to go home and you're going to get to work. And it's like, so we need to prepare you right now. And he said, I needed a five, 10 and 20 year plan. My five year plan was obviously to graduate. Mm-hmm. My 10 year plan was that I told him I wanted to make like 100 grand. I was like, oh, I just want to make six things. He was like, sure. And then my 20 year plan, I just couldn't figure it out. And he said, stop, don't think about money. Just think about achieving something great. Be great. And I told myself that I was going to be the first Dominican congressman in the history of the United States. I was like, I told him. And I was telling Adriana, but yeah, I was going to say. I was going to say. So I didn't have my dream. I told Adriana all the time, you crushed my dreams. But you said that plan. Yeah, you were supposed to be my guy. And we just laugh about it. But that was about 22 years ago. So my 20 year plan. But you look 22. I'm so confused right now. I'm 43 years old. Never. You were telling me you were 33. I would have believed you. I appreciate that. You know, I got good genes, man. You know, skinny, skinny. I got like a skinny head. So it makes me look younger than I really am. But I'm, you know, I'm married and got two children. I got an eight year old and a five year old. And they're good kids. But, you know, that I, I'm 22 years from when I made that commitment to Mr. Thomas that I would become a congressman. And I might be doing that. He's still with us. He knows everything about you. How proud is he? He's so proud. But if you meet him, he's like, you were a piece of work. Because I've come a long way from my college days. Let me tell you. I was very different. I was a problem, you know, back in college. I cared about it. I liked having fun. I threw a lot of parties. And I was just like, you know, the academics wasn't what I was focused on. Initially. But my school was both in La Salle Academy. And the more in college in my college years were cared less about academics or more about good people. They always used to tell me that their valedictorian was never the person with the highest GPA. It was a person that did the most community service. That's fine. because we got a point. just more people in the world, you know, have as kind people. So I really came from like a school of kindness and of love and it was really cool and I was an angry young man in college by junior and senior year. I had a lot of love in my heart and my trajectory in my career in my life from my junior year in college to now has been like a rocket ship exploding and it's all because of love. I just love everything. I love everybody. I don't hate anybody. You can hate me. I'm not going to hate truth. I don't have time for that and I always end my speeches with like this is one of the quotes from one of the greatest poets to ever grace the great land of Brooklyn. His name is Christopher Wallace. Most people know him as a notorious B.I.G. and he says spread love is the Brooklyn way and that's what I've been doing since my sophomore year. I was up man. If you're going to take a line from anybody let it be big, right? He was the man. Yeah, yeah. He went through a lot of crazy things too and he still says spread love and one of his raps and it's just like that's big time, you know, when you suffer and you go through what we go through and you can still see light is awesome. It's awesome. And you could still, you know, be the change that you want to see. As corny as that line is, it's super important. Yeah, you know that when I go to colleges and I explain how I got here, the first thing I tell people is I'm not special in anyway and that I'm poor. I came from the streets. I came from a tall place and that they can get to where I am because when I was young, I used to see people saying speeches or do a commencement speech in a graduation. I was like, man, that kid must have been a 4.0 GPA working 80 hours a week. Like other them. It's just like, no, that's not the case. I'm a regular kid that found what he loved to do. Had a lot of love in his heart and like chased his dreams because I really want them to feel like they can connect and they can get there too. Because too many people that just feel that what I've obtained has to do with the fact that I'm extraordinary in some way, shape or form and it isn't the case. The little things that took me very far and I try to impart that to the younger generation. But we've got to add some other stuff. Was it the connections? Was it the drive? Was it the obsession to be successful? There's got to be a more secret you're not telling. I have, it's like a Mamba mentality type of situation. So I'm just competitive. And Kobe, what's your guy? It Kobe was my guy. I was my favorite player in the NBA. I was a crazy Kobe fan for sure. But the thing with me is that I don't care what I'm playing. I play anything basketball, football, we are spelling B dance content. I'm going to be the best and I just care about just beating everybody all the time. So I'm very competitive. It's my mom. This is, I'm going to go a little deep here. It's trauma from when I was a kid. My mom thought I was always, she thought I was special. She was like, you're very smart. Her kind kid. And she had high expectations of me. Very high expectations. So I heard from home with like a 95 out of how many siblings? It was only three of us. And it was only you that she had done. Only only me. Okay. We had a conversation about why it happened that way. And she said some things that she shouldn't have said. But for my mom, she was just like, I knew Antonio was special at a very young age. And I expect greatness from him. So I used to, I come home with a 95 and I used to be in trouble. You know, my mom used to play Tadu. You know where? It's a scene. Where's that? Only hundreds. If I got anything less than a hundred, my mom would really bring, bring, bring the business. And my sisters didn't get that same energy. And my mom said that she thought I had something. So now I have this trauma of like never being good enough. And always had like a hundred was only thing that was acceptable. So my life, I really, it drove me in a positive way. I think where I wanted to be the best at everything I did because I'm always trying to, in my little boy inside of my body, it's trying to, trying to make my mom happy. It's still there. And I'm still doing it to this day. You're an overachiever because mom ingrained that in you. You got to be nothing but the best. Don't come here with 97.5. I need a straight 100. Exactly. Always. So we can attribute it to mom. Yeah. I give my mom all the love. You know, I mean, couples therapy now in my wife. And it was, it was funny. For good. Why are you in couples therapy? We had a hard, we had a hard time. Okay. Is it working? It's, oh my god. It saved our, saved our marriage. Oh, that's beautiful. I'm happy to hear that. Just renewed our vows. We did 10 years. Oh, god bless you. Married. And yeah, we had a, my kid was like five, we had a five year than a two year old. It was COVID. It was just like, we were, we were ready to kill each other. And in La Casa también. In La Casa. Yeah. But then now my kids are eight and five. And he's like, they, you know, we don't need to pay attention to them every five seconds. They could, they could survive without us. And it changed. Now we started liking each other again. Aren't you so happy you took that out with? I am. And I, and I want to, and we did the bowler nose because I got a lot of family. I'm going to have a large family in Brooklyn. And we just want to be like the, like show the models of like success. And I want to be clear that my success is like, oh, we've been perfect for 10 years. They saw all the nastyness in our relationship. And they saw us when we were down. And now they're seeing us when we're up. And it's just like, that's what these relationships are. They're, you know, good, bad, you know, highs and lows. But we could always like make it happen. So we threw the bowler North to, to recommit to ourselves, but also show my family. And the her family is like, let's keep fighting. Everybody just stay with it. So, you know, and sometimes, you know, the vulnerability and the transparency, which our family lets them know, like, we're all going to go through something. Yeah. But, you know, their love is real. And, you know, the commitment is there. Yeah. You should see it through anything. Absolutely. So it's been great. It's been great. But, but it was, what was I in the, in the, yeah. But that's it. But that's pretty much it. He's like, that's it. I have something else I forgot about. But, man, congratulations. And I'm glad to hear, you know, therapy works because a lot of people It's not true. You know, we don't even know what we're doing wrong. Because we never been taught how to be in relationships. You know, my mother, my father's relationship was horrible. To motres? Yeah. It was tough. My father used to cheat a ton. You know, there was not like a no communication hierarchy that was like completely unacceptable. And, you know, I'm a quiet guy too. My father was quiet. He didn't say a lot of words to my mom. Never said I love you to his kids. You know, he's just a quiet, strong man of provider. That strong Latino, like, you know, I'm like, you know, I'm cold. I'm not being cold, but I'm trying to be I was a little bit. And then I, but because I got too much now, I tell my father before he passed away. I said, I love you all the time. So I'm like, I make him uncomfortable. Used to force hug him. Force hug me with my mom. My mom doesn't like to hug. I hug her on purpose. My father's like, yo, what are you doing? He's like, come on. Come with me. Papa. He was like, he buddy, as he got older, he warmed up and started getting softer. And my father's two kids outside of my mother, like with another woman that are younger. And he showed them a lot of love, man. He used to take them to school. He did the things he never did with us. And we're very proud, you know, very proud of my dad's girlfriend. And allowing him to grow at that, like, all the age. So it's pretty cool. And that's beautiful. But I feel like that also stems from, you know, our parents having to come here and having to be so tough and having to grind. They didn't have time to be like, man, it's in that day. I'm up in that little fellow. They have been, that's not the case. They're struggling. They apply for Section A. They try to get food stamps. They'll be here trying to get their paperwork, right? And I show my mom grace. And I show, you know, the adults and my family grace because I'm like, I wouldn't be having to do it. I wouldn't have to do it. 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My kid is going to like a progressive education in the local school that I went to. I went to reta Clemente, PS19, and he's going to the arbor school. We got a new name, but it's just like, we don't have any excuses. We don't. I guess not. But these people went through. They don't speak the language. It's come on. Antonio, I would never move to Germany, but like, I'm going to start a life here. Are you crazy? I can't even imagine. I don't even travel places where they don't really speak English or Spanish. Yeah. I want to move to the Dominican Republic, and I'm scared. You know, it's just like, and I know the language is my home country. You know, and it's like, do we want to jump and do this? It's like, nah, we're not ready for that. I'm going to do it right now. Exactly. But here they come over here. - They did it. They came, look, they didn't have money, They did it. they didn't have papers, they didn't have a job, they didn't have a house, they were moving to the basement. I wouldn't have been able to. Curos to them, but that also says why they couldn't be so off. Why they couldn't be babies. Why they couldn't be like, "Mei, mei amorcito, sientate aquí." They must trust the hell out. They didn't know how they were going to pay the rent. - They were? Have you seen them with their grandchildren? - Oh, I'm like, who is this lady? My mom is a whole different person. - Oh my gosh, she loves her, she loves her, they call her my youngest son, we call him El Gordo, he's not even a fat, which is, you know, have them in the case of the opposite names or whatever. El Gordo, we like her, she loves him so much, and she's so much love, and he does something wrong, no, but he used to do things wrong, right away, like La Chancleta, but with these kids, they could run around to whatever they want, and she just, yeah, but it's okay. - But it gives them that opportunity to be, you know, that soft, loving, you know, woman, and just tap into their femininity that they couldn't, because it was locked in struggling and surviving. - I don't know more, so my mom isn't a good place. You mean my mom's just a joy. She's like a bubble of joy all the time. - What's the name? - Marita, Marita Sosa. - Marita. - Yeah, Marita, shout out to her, my mom. - She did a good job raising you. - Thank you, thank you. - That's all I gotta say. - Now, when did it stick to you that you're like, I'm going to government or I'm going to politics? Like, how does that even happen for a Dominican guy? - Yo, so I was in college, I was in Lamont College. I'm with my friends and Mr. Thomas. It's like you guys got it. - I don't miss the Thomas. - You know, Mr. Thomas, let me tell you, you need a mentor, every young black boy needs a mentor. You don't even know you need a mentor. - What do you tell me I need a mentor? - I'm like, do I? - I mean, the world does, but all the black boys need mentors and not your pops. Like, the pops could be your mentor. But you need somebody, my pops didn't know anything. He was a farmer from the Dominican Republic. His mentorship was just like, provide for your family. You know, be strong. Mr. Thomas had more, it was more complicated or have more depth to his mentorship. African American man. - Yeah, African American man. Carl Thomas, not the singer, his name is Carl Thomas, he used to make fun of him all the time. But he saw, he was just like, you guys, all you do, you throw parties, you go hang out, you go to the gym, you go eat, and you go to class on occasion. You guys need to do something outside of the school and help other people. So we decided, we started an organization called Bog, brothers on a new direction. - No, I like that. It was a club that existed that, Mr. Thomas was a part of, you know, 30 years before we got there. And then it went defunct and we brought it back. - You were like, let's give a CPR? - Exactly, he loved it. He was like, oh, you brought a bond back. I was like, yeah, you know, we went to go to the East, East Syracuse Puerto Rican kids that had the lowest educational attainment in all of the state, in all of New York state. They were six graders reading our first grade level. And we're like, let's go in two to the kids. And Mr. Thomas, you know, you go through a party and a ton of people show up, you'll be surprised what you can do with leadership. Like, use that for leadership. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna put a little poster up with Bond and my brother, Vuma Whitehead, Adi's Nettie's head, Adi's here. And we put up a little flyer. And instead of just like six of us coming, like from the suite, it was like 25 people showed up. And Mr. Thomas was like, get another bus, bring another, get a van. You see, and Tony, this is what you-- - You spark something in him too. Yeah, it's like leadership, it's just you have leadership and you're using it to throw parties or using leadership to like bring people to do a Fact change in young people's lives, but then I got angry when I got there because these kids never seen her latino A latino college student. They didn't believe I had to go three times before they were like you have really in college It was like we all go to college if you want We'll do a trip to my college. You can see my dorm They couldn't believe it cuz they never saw somebody that looked like their college the power it was the kids It was the kids the kids didn't believe we were in college the kids had no so that no ideas of like pop culture or or just like social Social studies or social issues. They couldn't read very well super sheltered. Yeah, I don't know what it I think is the education system sucks so bad and that's what got me angry and so I started getting activated And it's like this is unacceptable the education system in New York state sucks These Puerto Rican kids shouldn't be where they are and I just got angry and the anger kind of started driving me to like a fact Change and be more active and then I got to Graduated and I started working for an organization called a corn and a corn is run by John Kess and Bertha Lewis and those are two Leaders that founded the working families party. So I was working to get child care providers You were Syracuse or you already came back. I was here. I came back. I can't stay in Syracuse too much snow But there was a child care providers that they were seen as early, they were seen as glorified babysitters And we saw them as early childhood educators Yeah, we got them organized and had them join the teachers union And that's what I did in my first job is organizing So then just like then after that I started working for a councilwoman called Diana Reina I started an organization that fought against the corrupt the Brooklyn Democratic Party The Democratic Party's boss got arrested. I went to jail, the last three in a row all went to jail for corruption. So we were there to reform it, and then Barack Obama got elected. - That's like current. - I was living in a political high, and I didn't even think about, I just worked 12 hours a day. I didn't even feel it. It was just like natural. - 'Cause you loved it. - I loved it. I loved it. And I just kept going. And the council member I worked for was a council member from the district I was born and raised in in Winnesburg and the South Side. So from day I ran, became a person, and became a council member, and then after that I ran and became a borough president. Yeah, so. - Is that normal? For somebody so young? - It's not, so I'm the youngest, the youngest borough president in the history of New York, elected to a four year term. - Wait, that's insane. I am so impressed. - And to be a Dominican, I thought, because Brooklyn is not Dominican. Brooklyn is not Latino. It's black and white. It's about 38% white, 40% black. And then just like 14% Latino. So I didn't do it with identity parts. - Who got you elected, who got you elected, you know. - Well, I wanna say this, I had a really broad coalition 'cause I'm also like a crazy progressive. So I'm like that Dominican that like, I like bike lanes. (laughing) Trust me, the taxi drivers, I can't get a haircut. The taxi does come and they're like, "Oh, you." I'm like, "Oh, easy, easy." So they come at me, you know, but they love me 'cause you know one, I'm like honest and sincere, but I'm also one of them. They saw me grow up since I was a little kid. And they loved me for it. So my people in Winniesburg and Bushwick and East New York and South Presils came through, but also like a lot of white progressives came through. So, and young black population was with me too. So the young vote really carried me in Brooklyn and it was extraordinary. - So it was a whole community pretty much. - First Dominican Bar president in the history of the city of New York. - I am so proud of you, you don't understand. - Thank you so much. feel good, like, you know, it just feels good and I'm like real Brooklyn, like through and through. You still, you still live a couple of blocks from your original building? Yeah, so I grew up in a cross building on South Third and Hughes, and now I live on Hughes in South Fifth, you know, two family home. I rent, I'm a renter, but my kids, so my kids are growing up in the same community. I grew up in my boys go to the same school I went to, so everything, keeping everything kind of the same, and we got to, it's beautiful, my There's a lot of babysitting assistants and things like that how gentrified is your area or you still feel at home No, so that so right now Williamsburg is still like 30% Latino. It's all censored But it's all censored in one area that we can't leave so it's all been protected los sures St. Nick's people's firehouse Northbrook and development corporation Kraus Lindy Park Those areas are rents stabilized and non-for-profit protected housing for a whole different region in the south side of Venezuela. Now you go to the north side, you know, it's a little different but the south side is Latina still good keep it for us You know my husband's from Brooklyn and when we go back to his neighborhood He's like this is not my neighborhood. These are not my people. You can't even sit on a stool. He's like this was not here He's by the barclay. He's like yeah, I had changed a ton. I would love to invite you to I would love to invite you to We do a walking podcast in the south side and show you how we the preservation of housing through these Non-for-profits as we saved us. It didn't exist. I love that. It didn't exist in Fort Green where your partner is talking about it It the the non-for-profit housing saved the south side and it's very rare. It's not everywhere in this borough So we got very lucky. I'm so happy that that still exists because I'm like, yo, we have to have our neighborhoods where we grew up Like you know and our where do we go? Where do we go? We you know, I want to say that we did You know back in the day I used to be seeing a growth like when you build buildings Mm-hmm. It's like all these new apartments. They're going to get as gentrified and what I learned was there was some data that mini-opolis and Austin, Texas where the only two cities in all of America were rent went down and what they did is they just built a ton But they built a ton everywhere not just in a few places build the Blazio and Mike Bloomberg built in what they called opportunity areas where that were almost exclusively Black and brown poor neighborhoods, so he didn't build in Park Slope and Brooklyn Heights and sheepset Bay Bay Ridge He didn't build in the way they left it for them. They left it for them. They took it from us So now we need 300,000 units of housing But we've only built a hundred thousand but all those were built in black and brown neighborhoods So now that you see the gentrification But if we were to build 300,000 units because we opened up the areas that are white or affluent then The gentrification is not doesn't get had and the Overindexing or the amount of supply that we have of housing makes it so that the market is not so high and now rents Go down the way they didn't ask the mini-opolis So I'm a big proponent of building and developing like south of Atlantic Avenue and letting people know if you live south of that area I got love for you, but you're gonna see some development because if we all build at the same time all the prices go down But we're only building in a couple of little areas. It's not enough to stop the flow of people So that's that's a new ideology that I've been able to pick up after like data and information is presented to me How do you sleep at night having Brooklyn on your back? Do you sleep good or you have a lot of anxiety a lot of anxiety You know, I'm not a lot of joy. Yeah, I have a lot of joy. It's just hey, man It's a big burrow and a lot of people have issues Brooklyn is a country. Yeah, but also it's like you're in this business. Nobody's the gratitude comes like once in a blue But the problems come every day. So yeah, somebody's stopping me in the street Donia Conchita's like Antonio. I don't 99% of the time is I need an apartment. I need a job I didn't eat today. My son is this must and it's just like so as soon as they say my name the anxiety kicks in It's like I know it's gonna be another issue. I want to be hopeful, but that happens the gratitude though You know once in a blue somebody's gonna be like hey that park man my kid just used it And I know that you help rebuild that I really appreciate that you don't get that a lot so And it's okay. I don't do this to get like passed on my back But the negative energy that comes to you because people are stressed out people are in pain. Yeah It's a lot to bear so that that does take a toll on you because eventually you want to see some joy. Mm-hmm So that's why I go to senior centers. I go to schools. I'd be I'm around kids because everyone you just need to surround yourself with love and Happy people. I was in the senior center Working out on a chair, you know playing dominoes with the with the old men And it's just like that made me feel at home and you need to do that if you're in a lecture because if you don't you're gonna lose Your mind because it's just a lot of the pain of the people in your community that you're that you're like taking on You see yourself Going up in ranks as far as you know politics go. You know what I I'm competitive right? So I wanted to always I see myself like Mike Tyson type right where I'm always Punch slightly above my way class always never go crazy. I'm not I'm not there's a lot of people that run for office They talk a lot of smack are very Preformative and then lose with like 10% of the vote because they have no self-awareness I don't like to do that. I like to fight like slightly above my way because like I think this is a hard thing to do But I can look at my brother my thinning is so so I do that But I have kids now and my whole perspective is changed so I'm running for Congress now So in the district that I was born and raised in we're gonna get you in Congress. Come on. Let's make this up right and shout out. I see so I'm running for Congress and When I win that it'll be the last time I ever run for office. That's the last thing I'm gonna do Why what's going on? No, it's just I want to be with my kids You know when I'm gonna see in the White House. You know nothing else not there to be it'll unless my you know I just don't see it my kids. I Want to be there for my kids like really be there even now during the campaign I'm exhausted and on Saturdays. I take my kids play baseball on Thursdays. I play catch with him I got him ready because I was like one girl. I have two boys two boys and the younger one is autistic So he can't do the things the older one can do But I need to just be there because days. I'm never gonna get a little league back my son is in the eight year Little league next year. He's in the nine year. He's up one step And it's just I'm not getting that back and to be one elected official after I leave people forget me in two three years You know what once they grow up and then one hang out with you no more than you come back to politics Yeah, you know that's gonna happen, right? Maybe I'll do a fresh one. Yeah, when they're 17 and you can't find them Okay, let me go back now. I'm gonna try for president. Yeah, I know, but this is this is it This is where I want to be this is where my dream is I can't be greedy God gave me got him to care me told me this is where you are I'm like, thank you on and now I want to be satisfied. I want to stop chasing and just be And it's hard for me, but I'm getting to a place where it's just like go just chill Bro, you got it. You did it. Is it therapy that's helping you with this? Let's be honest in our community Especially us women is we do it all we work we take care of the family We hustle because no falte nada, but even the strongest need a break own Chinchin de ayuda. That's why I love talking about real stuff on my podcast Gracias come again because we're all out here doing our best and sometimes having Allying into a skin a so as a toda la diferencia like a state farm agent They're the kind of hinted that shows up listens and helps you get the coverage you need It's not about needing help. 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She does mental health too. She's a therapist as well Okay, so that's so she's all you know, I she never what is it she never Therapies is me whatever you want to call it. She never treats you. Yeah, she doesn't treat me. She can't the she to herself She's good. She's good. Would you ever run for mayor? No No, they asked me to run for mayor this last time they did as Barra president I was asked by a couple of people to consider it to my yeah my kids again, you know, okay, so it's always gonna come back to family and spending time with the kids Yeah, this is my family is the most important thing to me and You can't be a mayor is only good for people without kids. You can't, that's why both the Blasios kids. That's why they'd be elderly? Yeah, both the Blasios kids. The youngest one was 16 years old. And mom dominates having kids. It doesn't happen. OK, yes. And then Eric Adams's kids were like 30 years old. Oh, yeah, they are. So my Bloomberg, exactly. So all these people have their, they don't have. They're not young families. Older. You'll never see somebody with two young kids in, in, in, in a mayoralty, and it just doesn't happen. So, uh, it's not something we should do. Prioritize the kids. Listen, we love you as Brooklyn borough president, you, you know, you're representing us in a way that's just, you know, any chance I get, I'm like, do you know, I don't, do you? You know, he's the minute, you know, he is the first. And you know, it's a, it's a fun fact, but it's also very impressive. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Now, your agenda, the top of the list, yes, abolishize. What do we do with ice abolishing it? Yeah, I want to give you a little bit of background on this, because people are like, oh, abolishing ice, what does that mean? Before 2000 into abolish ice, then it exists before 2002. It was, it was formulated as a counterintelligence surveillance agency against, or intelligence agency surveillance agency against Muslims after 9/11. That sort of was form, and then it modified itself to go after immigrants and now it's become like this huge military set force put together by, by Donald Trump. They just gave them like a $12 billion grant. Yeah, it's wild. What is this? Do you understand some people don't eat in America? Yeah, you know what, we have a war in Iran right now where they're spending $2 billion a day, $2 billion a day, and then they're telling you we got to cut Medicare for the old people for the older population, and it's not benefits for poor people. It's nonsense because it's political will just want people to know everybody's like, oh, how are we going to pay for it? We got more than enough money and we can spend $2 billion a day in Iran. They just not giving it to you. And like people are like blinded by the nonsense because what the Republican Party does really well is that they have a terrible agenda because their economic agenda is to make the top percent very wealthy and hangar in there. They're having the greatest wealth transfer in the history of this country has happened over the last five years. And that includes Biden, I want to be clear, because we have what we call corporate Democrats too, that get bought out by corporations so they don't pass policies that help that every day American. They have policies that help these corporations, right? But what they need to do is they need to find a scapegoat and they need to make sure that they can keep the people with little fighting against the people with less. That's very important to them. So what do you do when you have an economic policy that has you pay more at the pay more in the supermarket? Your gas prices are going up. People are losing jobs. AI is taking people's jobs while Amazon is making $70 billion a year and you are losing, you're paying $120 to fill in a gas tank that you didn't do before. What do you do? You distract them and have them fight against a scapegoat. So what do they do? Immigrants. Immigrants have no power, no political capital, can't write legislation, can't get elected. These are the most vulnerable and arguably weakest, politically capital people. The easiest target. And they don't affect their life in any way shape or form, but they're the ones we're going to put everybody against because somebody's looking for somebody. You know, my life is hard. It has to be because somebody else did something. And I tell people, if your life is hard, maybe it's the people that are eating and having a good time that are the problem, not the people on the bottom that are struggling. Those are our neighbors. So I'm going to abolish ice by going back to the before 2002, you know, Barack Obama deported more people than anybody in history of presidency. And he didn't use ice to do it. But he did, he just went after criminals through a standard court system, which exists right now. So we can go back to just deporting people if you're a convicted criminal in the court system. Because that was the whole, at the beginning, we're going to get rid of all the criminals. Yeah. And then it became everyone. Go to the school. You got kids, you got teachers, you got elderly. And this is like, now even the Republicans are way, way, we said rapists and murderers, that little kid is five years old. There's no way. And it's exactly that. But it's how they do it. But then the thing is that the Democrats have got into the power. 70% of the country will be like, we need a government of abolish ice. And Democrats will be like, well, I don't know. And that's what people are tired of. It's like, we don't want to vote for you just because you're not Republican. We want you to do something. And we have these Republicans. I mean, these Democrats that just have done very little in a long time. So I want to abolish ice. As soon as we get there, it's a number of priorities that we all got to start working to make sure that ice is no longer an agency that terrorizes our people. Which is what they do. Yep, they do. But we can do it. And we will. That's the first thing we're going to do. Now, this affordability crisis that we're in right now. Wow. How do we exist? We don't. This is a city that's quickly becoming of the extremely poor and the extremely rich. There's no middle class here. You either need to be able to afford a two-bedroom apartment for five grand or being a rent stabilized apartment for like $600. So now you have people in nature. And then people like-- Of course, people from Barclay. Exactly. Making tons of money. What we need to do is rebuild the middle class. And the way you do that is through middle class housing. And right now, a lot of advocates they fight almost exclusively for very low income housing. And they're like 40% affordable. You know, they want a two-bedroom for $800. That we need those. But we also need a cop and a teacher, combined salary, 130K a year. How do they-- they don't qualify for those programs. But they also can't afford $5,000 a month. So we need to rebuild the middle class. Yeah, because that great area right there, where you qualify for no help, but you can't exist, it's real. That is real. And there's a lot of us. But the Democrats got to be a part of the solving for those people as well. We've abandoned those people. We're like, you know what? Oh, they're fine. Everybody's like, oh, there you're done being. That's a cop. He makes money. That's a teacher. She makes money. No. Are they struggling? They are. If we start reinvesting in those people, the Democratic Party could be stronger than ever. So I want to go in and build housing like Mitchell Lama housing was the first form of affordable home ownership for the middle class. And then we stopped building it. And we stopped building two or two housing for seniors. We stopped building nature. And I want to go back and pull those levers right now. The state and the city are doing this work of building housing by themselves. The federal government does not help in any way, shape or form. But we need to get back into the business because we're in a crisis of housing. And the federal government should be helping us with the crisis, but right now they're not. So that's the work that we want to do when we get there. And you're doing amazing work. You know, I dug really deep into the work that you're doing. And then I saw that you made this investment, you know, with sensory rooms and the public schools here in Brooklyn. Like what's your son's name? Andres. Andres. Andres inspired this. He did. So Andres is in a school. I went to a school that had a sensory room. And it was amazing. It was a bunch of kids that were like neurodivergent. So you went to visit? I went to visit the school. I'm a borough president. I got to a D75 school. I got there. I know there's got to be kids with autism and like disability, neurodivergent. And I know it's going to-- and then I went to the sensory room. I was like, what the heck is this? And like, this is where they come. They settle down, they play, they do this. And it was just-- it was like a gym. It was like a indoor gym with just-- like you want to be there. I was just going to say-- You loved it? I loved it. And I said, why doesn't every school have this? That is D75. Every school that has autistic children should have this. And they're like, you know, it's an affordability issue. We kind of afford it. So I put out a notice. I gave every single district 75 school in the borough of Brooklyn, a sensory room this year. Last year. So if you're a parent with a kid that is neurodivergent, that has autism, or has a physical disability, and you're in a D75 school, you're going to have a sensory room. You don't need to go to the next neighborhood because they have one, no. Anyone you go to, you can blindly close your eyes. You're going to get one. Because I want to build equity in the resources that people get. So yeah, every single school in Brooklyn. So it doesn't matter where you go in Brooklyn, sensory rooms are standard in every single school, yeah? And that's what we need. Our kids, you know, they should feel safe. They should, if they're having an episode, they should be able to go into a space where they can calm down, where they can be sued, and they can go back into the classroom with a hard reset. And if that sensory room is going to do it for them, they should have. Absolutely. You know that. I think it's a met life stadium has a sensory room. If you have a kid, and they're not feeling good, you can tell them is there a sensory room around here? And they will send you to a room where the kids could play with like squishy things, and they stepped, they touched walls, that changed colors in these stadiums, because they know how important they are. But we don't have them in our local schools. So yeah, so there's something I'm really proud of. It's like, I'm dedicating it through Andres. By the way, Andres' school is not a district 75 school. It's a regular school that has a program for people with autism, so he won't get a sensory room. He won't get a sensory room? He doesn't get it. So I want that to show people that I'm doing this, 'cause I love these 75 schools. It's not for my kid, 'cause-- Yeah, obviously not, you know. Sometimes people think, oh, you're only doing it 'cause you want your kid together. Oh, that means that you would have done it in your kid's school only, but you did not. I did not. So he didn't even get a sensory room. We're gonna work it out. We're gonna figure it out, but yeah. Not gonna work out. But I want you to know, you know, we're super proud of you. Thank you, thank you. As Latino, as a Dominican, as a daughter of immigrants, as a New Yorker, I'm like, uh, he is just me, but a man, and a borough president. There you go, no, no, no, no. I hope you feel that way. I think our people have done amazing work. The contributions we've made to the city. Oh, for sure. It was like second to none, and you make us proud as well, so I'm deeply grateful to you. But our people have done amazing things, and we just got to keep, we don't lose the hustle mentality that we were, like, that our parents came here and instilled in us, make sure we instilled in our children, be careful with these, like, what is it, Tuno Sabre kids? Tuno Sabre? Tuno Sabre? I do, but my oldest son, obviously is that don't tell me he don't know. No, no, no, he's much. He knows more but I can see it coming because the environment is not all Spanish is a lot of English, but we're trying, but at home it's Spanish, which are our best. He's very committed to it. He's a, he's a, he loves it. He considers himself Dominican and he does not play games. He's like, I'm Dominican. Isn't that so fly when kids born in the United States, but like, I'm Dominican and they embrace them both. Look at me. They got their flag and they be more Dominicans than us. My kid is Dominican. It's wild. He says little things. He's like, oh, it's because I'm Dominican. I'm like, what do you know? That's so fly. What do you know about being Dominican? He's like, that's why we do this. I do it because I'm Dominican. He's playing baseball now. What? So yeah, he started playing baseball in Little League. So he's good. He's doing good. My family's really good. We're really blessed. We're fortunate people. That's good. And you know, they're blessed to have you and they're blessed that, you know, you're putting the family name. Yes, it could have been very different for us in the environments that we grew up in and you know, the times that we grew up in. But you know, we're all here striving, you know, pushing forward. And even if we're really cool after that, when we're out here, I forgot the name. La diaspora. OK, La diaspora. OK, I'm going to say Dominican Joe. No, no, no, no, no, that was my father. He used to say that. No, no, no, no, even though we're here in the United States, we're still very much in tune. I say I'm Dominican. Even though I'm, you know, I'm very proud of having been born in the United States. I love America. I love all the opportunities that it has afforded my parents. But when you ask me, get to it and you go just a little. Yeah, and you are. I just want to be clear, you are like we're really proud of this country for allowing us opportunities to grow and so forth. Very much so. You can't, your blood just can't let you go anywhere else. You know, that's why you listen to about Chaitao Medenga and you start getting ready to dance. We, we're Dominican Americans, but we're Dominican. One question. Yeah. Have you ever watched La Casa? No, so I want to be clear. The first season, I watched like 50% of the time. OK, the second season I was going crazy because La Fruta. I was my season. OK, so La Fruta, for me, I was following him before he went to the show. Okay, who he was? Yeah, so I already knew who he was. And when my wife saw him coming, she was like, who is that? That's La Fruta, him and his son. They're really funny. And we didn't think anything of him, but I was like, he's funny, baby. And he's like your father. He's like a father. You're going to see. And he blew up. And I love just those, those stories. You know, it couldn't have happened to a better person. He's super funny. I love that it happened for him. So, and I also followed the first winner, Lucita. I used to follow her too, because she's real Dominican. She's really compassionate. I'm from the camp. So I really connected. She uses the ease on purpose. So like, I love her, but La Planeta. I haven't seen it at all. La Planeta crazy. Listen, listen, listen. This is a whole new season. It's been really crazy. They take people out, they put them back in. I haven't been able to really follow. And at this point last week, they put new people in and I haven't really watched it. I'm not, that's it. I think that he's like, listen, I'm busy running Brooklyn. Exactly. He's asking me if I watch Planet. But I want to, you know, I'm really worried about Dominican Republic, like young people in the Dominican Republic. The access to social media, the access to these shows is like exclusively like where they are. And, you know, I worry about it. I'm concerned about the education of young people in the Dominican Republic. So they get easily influenced. And we're seeing a rise and like, El Tigeraje. And it's a different style of Tigeraje than what we were doing. It's a little deeper. No, no, it's not Tigera. Tigera, you can walk by them and nothing happens. Because the Tigeres were doing it, I feel like for survival. Like, they mean to survive. These kids are being like, they saw El Tigeraje as a flow. So it's a lifestyle. Yeah. Exactly. What are you doing in like quarantine? No, no kids should be out there. It'd be six in the morning. And they just, they're good and started in like quarantine. But my wife lives in Baliente. It's like three, three, like streets away from like quarantine. Oh, where? So it's wow. She knows exactly what it is. She want to be like, can we go and get some help? It's just not, I'm worried. I'm worried for the young people in the Dominican Republic. There's less jobs out there. It's a poor country. They're not well educated. They all look in the hustle and find a job. So that is like a perfect storm for a whole generation to be lost. Yeah. Let's be honest. In our community, especially us women, we do it all. We work, we take care of the family, we hustle, but even the strongest need a break. Gracias. Come again, because we're all out here doing our best. And sometimes having, adding into a skin, a suase toda la differencia, like a state farm agent. They're the kind of hint that shows up, listens and helps you get the coverage you need. Como un buen besino, state farm is the eye. Okay, hear me out. And now, team mobile Tuesdays are available in a spaniol. Be emphasis. And I'm all about getting more out of the things I already love. So if you're looking for more reasons to switch to team mobile, there are plenty. 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You're not going to bring anything back home back in the day. You can spend you know, $2,300 a month. You building a house in the hour. Now you can't do any $2,300. That's $2,300 doesn't do anything. $15,000 pesos. Yes. You got to contribute the plant to my wife. No, no, you go out and I went there too. You got to start a week out beautiful beaches that are for the next. There's a little more fancy here. You go there is still Dominican. I had eight people in a party, eight of us and it was 12,000 pesos for eight of us, which was $200. So there you go. 200 bucks and we ate fried fish, you know, they fried fish. We had some pinacaladas. De todo. One of the couple of lobsters and it wasn't crazy, but my wife is from Boca Chica and it came out to like 30,000 pesos in Boca Chica and only 12,000 in Puerto Blata. It's just the comfort of the comfort of the company. I'm just finished her house. You need a place to stay. I'm serious. Maritza. I'm like, you can't use a house. Maritza. Come on. I'm serious if you do because I really am a promoter of Puerto Blata and it's a different side. I'm never been. I got a record of that side. I would love it. It's just like commercialized touristy, right? It's just like it doesn't represent. They do a good job representing our culture and our beautiful beaches, but you know what I like? La Tejrenas, for example. I feel for my life to go there in that week. I hear you, but in La Tejrenas, you go out to the town and you're just sitting there and you're like, I want to go there. And a little kid or you can't do key area Uncle bingo. I would I comes to like six corkos and you giving them like some change and it's just like That hustle that like energy there in a little motorcycle like you get that going to the city going to the Campos And over there yeah, they'll get you a coconut But it's like a guy bought it up and looking cool. And it's just like respect for that. Yeah, you don't want that you bring it on a Civil class a little eight year old fighting with you. You want to climb the tree. Yes I like the house they try to sell me limosidios for like twice the price because they know but they hear my accent They're like, oh, yeah, it's the idea They're like, oh, yeah, it's like there's not the world. I'm out of 50. I'm gonna go and we're gonna get like like Tiana can take it and say they want to do braids and give you massages at the beach as that's that's the oh That's what I want. You know, I have a chick. I'm being a book. I'm book a chick. That's good too. I like book. I'm book a chick. I have I have to make it there And you know what it is I go with people all the time and they always want to go to resorts and they always want to go to this and that Don't get so late don't go home. Hi, this is the talk as a job and I'm back. I'm not chocolate. I'm not short. Yeah, I do. 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