Yeah, well, we live we're standing beyond us. So you keep doing that thing where you're like, "Ah, the coach tells right there. Stay another hour." And another hour. And then here we are. Yeah, he's to drink. I get it. Wait, you quit? Yeah. What? I never thought I'd see the day. We're losing everybody. I feel like no one drinks anymore. You guys like the last two people standing. Even Swartzson's not drinking. Well, he had to quit. Yeah. I'm very quick. Bert Quit. No one saw that coming. We were in a bar last night. We're Swartzson met me and he voted with a green juice. And I was like, I never thought I'd see the day. I was happy to see it. Yeah. And he made wings. He wasn't eating wings. I was like, all right. Well, he'll be like, Nick will be like, I'm sober now. I've been sober for two years. I'm like, when's the last time he had a drink? He's like a year ago. Well, that's not. Damn, Swartzson. That's like when Jordan went to basketball or baseball. It's over. You came back though. So I hope not. That's true. He'll be back. He'll be back. Don't say that. It's Nick. That's fucking bad, though. Well, maybe for people to fall back on who have a problem. Well, maybe he'll come back and own it. Like, he'll just have a beer at dinner. I don't think that's how it works. Okay. Did you have a problem? Or did you just I grew it? I say, you know, like everyone around me stopped drinking. And I was like, I used to be the one who was like still kind of in control. And all of a sudden, I'm the only one slurring. And I was like, this feels weird as I get older that I'm just I'm happy to leave it behind. And it's been like, you go to like, I'm going to dinner with Swartzson last night. And the bill was like 200 bucks. And I'm like, this would have been a thousand dollar dinner when we were drinking. That's true. I don't I don't miss it. I don't miss it. It is. It's unnecessary at times. But yeah, I'm four years as a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Do you ever get bored? I mean, that's that's the big thing for me. Like you feel great, but I do get bored. I was still smoking pot for a while. I gave up pot in October. And like, I'll get back to my hotel room after a show and be like, now what? Exactly. You know, like, now, what do I do? But I've I've I've read a lot of books. Yeah. That's like my I picked up a book from your rec. Oh, you did the stoner one. So did so did Matt Peters. Cool. Yeah. Stoner is a the great American novel, I say. Yeah, I've heard it. I've saw other people record. And then I saw you and I was like, it takes like three people now for me with a show or a book. It's like, I need like three different. That's a hard thing about being a book guy is that you can't get a new conversation without walking away with three recommendations. Yeah, I can't read all of these. So you're always just piling up books. Man, I go from booze to books is pretty good. That's like what our parents wanted. And there we are. Yeah. Boos to books. I don't regret my drinking days. I just truly outgrew it. And it wasn't a health thing. It was just like, you know, as you get older, it becomes a worse look. Right. You know, when you're like just like the sweaty smiley guy at the bar, it just as you get older, it's like, what are you doing? Yeah. You have to hang out with other sweaty smiley guys. And then you're like, look at this fucking lizard. Exactly. And then you're like, oh, yeah, that's me. Well, I would come here and I would have like two beers before my set. And I was the only one having two beers before my set that I was like, okay, I don't miss not being that guy. Yeah. And the hangovers. I mean, just this is horrible. You wake up fresh as a daisy. Not really. I don't sleep great. I thought like my sleep would be amazing, but it's just it's normal. Are you a coffee guy? Yes. That's the sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Because I had to quit coffee for like a month. And I was like, I'm falling asleep naturally. I'm not taking pills. I just do it for first thing in the morning. And I take pills because I grind my teeth so crazy. That's the muscle relaxer at night. And that helps me sleep. If I don't have that, like, it's a problem. Every night a muscle relaxer. Yeah. Whoa. That's why you seem some relaxed. Yeah. You seem chill. Well, I've been waiting for you guys. Sorry. We were waiting outside for you. We were like, I want to know what curry pulls up. And we were like taking bets. I was like, he seems like a Porsche guy. No, I do it. For some reason, I was like, he doesn't have kids. Two cedar makes sense to me. I got a I got a four door. I got the green out of you. I called it. Okay. I said, outie. Yeah. Addy's comfortable. It's a nice car. I love close by. So it was easy to get here early. I'm not right next door. Like you go. How did you slip by? Did you go through the front door? I know. I walked in. They were like, they were loading in booze. So I just kind of walked in. Oh, man. We missed you. Yeah. That's too bad. Nice outie. Now we're here. What's your routine when you ride? Is it every day? It was like in the beginning when I am like starting the new hour. I just like every day as much as I can. My big thing was like right before I went to bed, I went from riding in a laptop to a notebook. My brother had gotten me a notebook for Christmas. And I used to hate riding in no books, but he got me one. He got me a sketch pad by mistake. And by not having lines, all the sudden, I could just sit there like my hand writing so bad. Yeah. The lines like made me feel like I was back in school, but just being able to write in like a blank page, I would write like five or six jokes a night right before I went to bed and wake up in the morning and like remember the jokes. It felt like an elf came in the middle of the night and wrote jokes for me. Right. And I just like trying those out. And now I'm at like 50, 55 minutes of my set. And that last five minutes or 10 minutes is really tough. Yeah. Because I've covered so many things in the hour. Then now I'm just like trying to find, I'm trying to find it on the stage. You know, I've got a couple bits that I've come up with that I just try to every weekend try to have something new to fill up that hour. But for like, I mean, you know this that like an hour of a guy who just talks, you can do like an hour, 20 easy, but when you're doing one liner type stuff, I'm like, Hey, it's 55 minutes, but like, you guys should be cool with that because it's like it's back to back. Exactly. I'm not fucking around at all. No filler, no flush. We have the same tour manager. And I'll ask him sometimes, I'm like, how much time does Jezz will make do? Because I'm doing jokes too. So I'm like, I want to know like what's appropriate. Yeah. You know, but then you hear about some people doing an hour 30, which I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? That's too long. The other like the other show's waiting. I asked Brian one time. I was like, Brian, like I'm at 55 minutes is like, what are you? Are people like feeling ripped off? And he goes, you don't understand what I've seen people do to get to an hour. You know what I mean? We're there like bringing people on stage and like shit that like, your 55 is worth more than most people's hours that I hope to get to 60 by the time I go to theaters in the fall. But if it's 58, like, it's a it's a rock solid 58. Yeah. There's going to be way more punchlines in that 58 than the other guys one hour 30. Yeah. It's more machine. It matters, I think. Yeah, for sure. I think so. Because you think about there's some movies that you're just like, okay, this didn't need to be three hours. Of course. But someone's always going to complain and it's like how much of those complaints bother you. I'll see the hey, he only did 55. And I'm like, only one person, like I still got, you know, applause. People were still happy when they left. Yeah. That I think it's okay. Yeah. Well, I just put that out of special. I don't know three weeks ago. And he back to square one. And I it's kind of like drinking where I'm too old. I don't know if I can keep doing this rapid fire. This many jokes in a row again. So I have two stories now, which I've never done. Really? Yeah, I always think that like people are like, what are you going to do now? You do something different? Right. And this time it like made me mad that they were like, what do you, like that? I was like, I'm just going to make the jokes even shorter. And I always want to have a story. I've had stories before that I've like burned on late night because I used to bomb on late on the couch on late night. It's so hard because you can't just tell your jokes. Right. I'm like, am I my persona? Am I me? That I just wrote bits that I was doing on stage that were like doing great? Well, it could be a 20 minute bit, but I'm going to burn it on Kimmel. And I was like, what was I doing? What was I thinking? Yeah. But if I have, if I have stories now, they must have to be about jokes. Otherwise, it seems like the audience is like waiting for the twist. And then like, what is, what's going on that I, I just like, I like writing jokes, you know, I'd rather do that. But it's hard to keep burning hours without a changing up the rhythm for a second because your rhythm, it's like danger field words like he would have to throw in a little crowd work to break up the rhythm. Sure. And I've seen you do like a quick thing just to like throw them off a little, right? I used to do, I mean, now I have like, sillier jokes to throw them off. I used to do crowd work a little bit. And then I stopped because everyone was doing crowd work. And I was like, this feels hack to me. I don't, but I don't judge people for doing it, but it made me want to stop doing it. Yeah. That now I'm just like, let me see if I can just go do the opposite of what people were criticizing me for and just make it like just double down basically. Right. Right. Yeah. It's hard. I think when you're, when you, I always start to mark about this because Mark said all these great stories he tells and he never put some in specials. And I just think like we keep burning material like at a certain point, that's what I'm saying. I also like having a story at the end just to kind of like change up the rhythm of what they're expecting because I can't do too many like set up punch in a row without them being like, all right, we get it. Right. I mean, that's why I stopped podcasting. Was that I felt like I was like burning creativity, the way that even if the story I wouldn't use people are like, I see so many comics now where they're like, I saw the show. I liked them on better on the podcast. And I was like, I don't, I'd rather be better on stage. But I've tried to tell a story at the end, you know, wrap it up. Like I had like thoughts and prayers where I had like a big thing about about social media at the end. And like the audience is like, tell some more fucking jokes. Like we'd rather hear jokes from you. And I'm like, okay, let me just stick to that. And make it great. And if you put yourself in a box, if you back yourself into a corner, you'll find a way. Yeah, that's true. But that is annoying when I wrote a bunch of my comments and they're like, same stuff, same formula. Come on. Once you're going to evolve. But I'm like, can't this just be my thing? Can't my thing be the jokes? We know I thought about you because I saw some of those comments. I wrote a few of them. I was a little sick of them.
But I think like within your one-liner guy, we're a joke guy like we are. It's about the live performance. But when you're doing the show and you're doing joke after joke, the audience is going fucking crazy. And then when you're watching it on a screen, it's different. That like we're built for the live show. - Yes. - The special is just like, "Hey, I'm done with this stuff." You can see it, but it's not the same as someone who's on their phone, on their couch, doing fucking dishes, listening to a story, that it's like, what is your job? And I decided my job is the live show. - To kill. - I enjoy that more. I'll take questions during check drop. And people are like, "Is this gonna be a special?" And I'm like, "I'm performing for you live right now." Like this is the special thing. - I think your stuff translates very well, though. I think jokes actually translate better than stories to specials because the jokes can be clipped. They can, the stories you have to be fully engaged and people don't have the attention span. - It works well for clips, but people can like tune out, especially with the same kind of rhythm. Like I'm just like, that's okay to not enjoy the special as much as the live show, like with a live audience, the energy is crazy when you just go joke, joke, joke. That I'm okay with people being like, the special gets boring. Like, then get bored. You know, everything is fucking boring. If you sit there and watch, you know, whatever on on TV all day. - Yeah. - That criticism doesn't affect me anymore. - Okay, thank you. I was spiraling over that shit. - You're welcome. - I was really losing it. I was like, "I should I change? Should I get a new thing?" - I mean, I didn't say you shouldn't change. - Ah! - I don't feel bad about, about the comments. - All right, all right, thanks. - Do you have any jokes where you're like, this is my favorite joke and it never hits? - Yes, I have one that I like found a way to cram it in. Like I tied this joke that I wrote down like in my book late at night and I just started crying laughing. I was like, "This is so funny to me." And a lot of times that's a red flag. - Yeah. - Like when I think this is too funny and then I went to Largo and tried it out and the audience was just like, "No." But Zach Gallifinakis was on the side of the stage like crying with laughter and they ran up to me afterwards and was like, "That's so amazing. Don't listen to the audience." And I would keep trying it and we'd keep bombing. And I would see Zach and he'd be like, "How's that joke going?" And I'm like, "You would not believe how badly it's going." And now I just do a thing where I'm like, "I don't care anymore." Like I've been doing this for almost 25 years. Like this is what I like. I'm just gonna tell it to you. You don't have to like it, but I love this joke and then that kind of sells it a little bit. But I have to literally set it up as like this is a joke that horrifies people. - Yeah. - But it is the funniest thing I've ever thought of in my life. - Once you say that, they're kind of like, "All right, all right." It really changes the whole dynamic of the joke. - You're trying to make them feel cool by-- - Yeah. - By liking it. - Like Jimmy Carter told me, "I had a bunch of jokes. It was like an early special. I think it may have been colligula." Like my comedy central special. And I was like, "I've got these jokes that are like almost two." They get, it gets darker. We're like the darker stuff. I don't know where to put it in. It's like, it should go at the end and he was like, "Do what I do." And he's like, he just gave it to me. He was like, "Do what I do and just say, "let's see how dark I can get." I'm gonna tell jokes to get progressively darker. And we'll see. And then they love every one of them. And it's an easy thing to do. And I was like, "Oh, I can have that." And he's like, "Take it." - Wow. - It's yours. - It's just the packaging of it. - Exactly. - It's like he's into it. - That's smart. Because if you come out with a dark one, there's like Jesus. But if you, you know, introduce it like that. It changes everything. - Yeah, I was opening my new hour in a Charlie Kirk joke. And for my crowd, it was crushing. And I got up stage when I in Neil Brennan was like, "Don't open the hour on that." You're just gonna lose people. Put it like seven minutes in. I was like, "Actually, I like that a lot." And I end up doing that. But see, you would have liked to open on it. - I have a Charlie Kirk opener right now. - Yeah. - And I have, I have never taken it. - He was like, "You're gonna shut it off immediately." And I was like, "Murdered." - I have never taken an advice from Neil Brennan. - He's giving me, he's giving me a lot. And then he'll, afterwards he'll be like, "You were right." And I'm like, "I know." - Oh, okay. - Like I, I think he was right about this one. I'm glad I listened to it. And actually, it segwayed better in the middle than it is an opener. It felt like I was trying to be too offensive at it again. You know? - Sure. - Different Charlie Kirk jokes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Wow, opening with it. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, it's just, I mean, it's not, it's not even about him. It references him, but it is a Charlie Kirk joke, but it's not like, you know, I'm not trying to draw a line in the sand. You've enjoyed doing that. - Yeah. - My audience like knows me well enough now. - Yeah, we lead people now. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But. - Well, Carl and used to come out with the worst thing and where we'd run on stage. We were like, "Hold on, hold on." Do you guys know that if you notice that the women against abortion or people you wouldn't fuck in the first place, you're like, "Wow." It's a fun opener. - That's a good joke. - Great joke. - I was in New York and I remember hearing about a set. They were like, Doug Stanhope's in town. And then it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen where for 45 minutes he's bombing. He's bombing so hard that Todd Barry and oh my God, skanks for the memories. - A tell. - A tell or in the back. And he's asking them, "Would you guys mind coming on stage "at the end and doing some time?" So the audience feels like they have a show. And they're just like, they don't know what to say. But it's like 45 minutes of bombing and then all of a sudden Stanhope just like turns on a dime and just starts ranting about his career and complaining. And then murders. They were like murders for 45 minutes and it was the best show they've ever seen. - Yeah. - And yeah, I don't know why people are too fucking stupid. They gotta have a picture of him up there. - But okay. - Oh, that guy. - He took that picture. That's what he's saying. - And he's great. - Okay, okay, that makes a little more sense. - Tom. - He showed a blow to it to our pod at like noon. It was a fun one. - And I was like, "That's incredible to bomb for 45." And then have the whole audience, even comics being like, "Oh my God." And then turning it around. And I wanted to go see him the next night. And it was just 45 minutes of him doing a set. Like I think he really just had a bad time that night and was able to pull it out. But I think Stanhope I think is the greatest. - The greatest. - Yeah. - He's your favorite color. - I think he's the best. Like, my favorite comics are guys like Danger Field, Stephen Wright, you know, had the guys who were true one-liner joke guys. But the people that I admire the most are guys like Stanhope who donated his body and his mind to comedy. Like he dresses like that for comedy. Guys like Chris Rock that I got to, was lucky enough to tour with. And I was like, "I'm gonna study everything he does "for this like, these like three months "we're going through Europe." And after two nights I was like, "There's nothing I can learn." He's the genius. Like I would watch how he prepped, but there was nothing I could glean from it. - Right. - He tried to give me a joke once. - Really? - It was like this reference isn't working, try this. And I was like, "I don't use other people's stuff." - You never take a tag? - Never. - No, people like try and I'm like, "Please don't." Like I enjoy writing too much. I'd rather find it on my own. And he was like, "Louis got a joke of mine in his act. "Like Seinfeld's got a joke of mine." Like don't be a dick. And the crew was like, Anthony, what are you doing? Like take his fucking joke. And after a week of convincing me, I'm finally like, "All right, I'll try it." And it bombed. And the crew starts laughing. And I'm like, "I've never seen someone so happy "to have a joke bomb." Like I was thrilled because it worked. - Yeah. - That it had to keep it. But I was like, "No, your reference didn't work." So I was very happy. - So it's funny 'cause it tells the stand hopes the best too. That's his favorite. - I think he absolutely is. Just like the stories he tells, the jokes he has, I think he like, 'cause every comic's like, "I don't give a fuck." They all like to say that. - Yeah. - But very few like really follow through it. - Very few go to Ukraine and fire weapons in Russia. - Yes. He actually gives no friends. - They don't move to Bizby. And just like does what he wants to do. And everything he does is for comedy. - Yes. - But I think he's the most pure. - The one on some, some on tape the edge off, that closer, that story. It's all, yeah, he can do social commentary. He can tell a funny personal story. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, he's one of the best of all time, I think, for sure. - I mean, I truly the greatest, I think. - Yeah. - Have you seen him go into the town hall meetings in a Bizby, those clips? - I've seen a few. - I mean, he's just doing like, what do you call those? It's like a community service or press conference where you can just go up and talk about shit, like complain about a pothole. But he uses it for stage time and he open mics it. You can pull that up, it's just hilarious. - Have you guys ever been to Bizby? To his-- - No, no, no. - Have you ever been there? - Yeah, I went once and he had like a party and I went with a friend and the party was really fun. But the town is like, it's a beautiful place. It really has the best like weather in the world. Like it's just like, you're comfortable all the time. But then I went to one restaurant and I was like, I would never fucking come back here. Like it was like one of those, where you really have to be self-contained. But I liked it. - I would love to go on a huge fan and all that, but I feel like it would get sad after like three hours being there at his house. - I mean, there was a bunch of different comics there. We did shows, they have a place to play. Like it was a fun weekend, but I have not been back. He said once, he's like, he gets more joy from making the greeter at a Walmart laugh. When he walks by, then he does from killing in front of an audience. Like just that little joke he tells when he walks by someone, brings him more joy. And the older I get, the more I feel that. The more like making some old person laugh with some like off-hand in comment, was no idea who you are. - Yeah. - It is more fun than an audience who's primed and paid money who wants to come see the act. - That's true. Did you have the thing? 'Cause in New York a lot of guys will do that. We'll kill on the road, you got your people. Then you kind of go back to the clubs and it's, you struggle a little bit 'cause it's not your people. Do you have that in L.A? We can work out in front of Rando's.
I only do I only have the one act, you know, I've never had like oh this is like they're out of towners Let me change it up. Like you see the movie and so I'll struggle sometimes it like the improv and it's like a Chelsea Handlers crowd like Chelsea Handlers at the end I'm like, why am I doing so badly? Everyone looks like Chelsea Handler and I'm like, okay Like I get what's going on here, but I'm happy to struggle there Because then when I go out and do it on the road from my audience like I kill even harder than it's like It's like going to the gym, you know versus like playing the game Right, it's like getting I did my Netflix's a joke show Tuesday and like a theater of 2000 people and after doing clubs for like a few months It was great just to feel how different it was Then I'm like I'm glad I was doing these these like smaller shows to get to that But I only have the one act same if I'm gonna bomb like let's bomb But I don't have any saves. I don't have any kind of like let me tone it down a little bit Yeah, for this audience, but you get mad you go. Hey, this is good stuff. Yeah, your psychos at the improv like even though it's good I learned to be a professional. I learned from like being at the improv on a bad night and I see Sarah Silverman go up who I think the world of and she's just acting like it's going great And I'm like, oh, that's what that's what a professional does is like people are still there to see Sarah Silverman And they might be a bad crowd But I'm like that if they're seeing Anthony Justin like like I want to give them that experience and not be like you guys are terrible Yeah, this is a bad crowd that I just like act like I'm still the best You know like you aren't giving me the reaction that I would I would want maybe it's a half-filled room But I'm going to give you the act to the best of my ability Yeah, I like that because you see a lot of these guys like third guy in a row like you guys suck fuck you and the crowd's like we do You didn't know that I don't do that But I am I can't just tell jokes and bomb I have to be like I'm aware of this is not going well. I need to do something sure You got to know I won't blame them, but I'll be like okay like I have I need to address it somehow or I just feel crazy I feel like I'm on a date with someone who fucking clearly hates me and I'm just like this is good I'll say things, but it's like in a positive way I'm like you guys are an amazing crowd to try new jokes in front of right like this is this is my target I like sarcasm. Yeah, they understand, but I don't let them see me sweat or think anything is wrong because again There are people there who might never see me again. Don't want to just do I want to just be professional I learned that from Sarah Silverman. I remember seeing Tom pop of perform the day Greg Jeraldo died Yeah, we all went to the seller to like mourn and everyone's like crying And I'm like I can't imagine going on stage right now And I walk through the room and Tom pop is up. They're killing like nothing happened. I was like that is professionalism and that kind of like I'll never forget that. Yeah, so I just I just tried to make it as Professionals I can I saw Tom I went to the Jeraldo benefit at the beacon and Tom hosted it was like such a fucking master class on Pro on MC and just it people were coming in it was a hell gig to open and he and he killed it was it was awesome He doesn't get his due is one of the great comics. He does. He does I think Don't throw them in the ring. We love you Tom. He's opening with a Charlie Kirk joke now Yeah, I mean, uh, yeah, that was a stack lineup that that benefit was cool Seinfeld came in and like a tell and Lewis Black was all these people just like bringing their A game was cool Yeah, I didn't get to know him that well at the seller because he like I knew him from the roast a little bit and he was always great to me But I didn't realize that the seller like he would like miss spots for like a week And I was like what's going on with Jeraldo and everyone knew but me like I didn't know like what was happening and then after he passed I would hear stories of How miserable he was kind of at the end and like doing the roasts. He like hated doing the roast really hated them Like liked it in the beginning and then just felt like he was stuck doing them and one of the reasons I liked it Three and then got out it was like I was just thought about Jeraldo and like having to repeat it doing jokes Like Jesse Joyce wrote a lot of his material toward the anxiety was like I don't care right Some of those are amazing jokes, though. You know the Arty Lang story, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's like like a flying them there Yeah, I had to help him. Yeah, and then trashing him as soon as he got on stage like his opening was already you fat fucking drug addict I hope he's alright. I mean one of the best dude. He seems fine In fact, and he outlive norm is crazy That's true so we'll stand hope probably it's like stand up as our Keith Richards That look like me this morning in the mirror Jesus I remember Arty Lang's joke about how MBA is all about education. He's like oh, yeah Don't go from high school to the MBA. Yeah, right if you're really bad education then get rid of the dumb contest and have a spelling B I think what do you rather see them dunk again or watch Stefan Marbury spell Wednesday Remember being like holy shit. That's a good bet. That's great. Love Arty Yeah, so quick too on pods and everything was so fucking quick Jeraldo was fun too because it was fun to see a guy that smart that prolific and also a mess I feel like we've kind of lost that in the arts, you know You said like a Bukowski type and all that but now it's everyone's uh he was like a rock and roll But also at the Harvard Law thing she like oh, you got a little bit of everything. Mm-hmm. It was kind of cool I was wanted to like hang with him and like get to know him at this at the seller and it would just be him Like on the phone with like sprint corporate like yelling at them about his plan like that I was like I don't want to talk. I can't I what am I gonna say now that I've just heard him screaming at someone like He was just never in that place, but during the roasts he would like the the last roast he did I was a writer on it and I had to do audience warm up uh where they were like they were talking about putting me on that roast in the middle So I'm like waiting to hear the news like am I on this roast and they call me and then like we'd love for you to do warm up And I was like so dejected and they it was like which house was this it was the Hasselhoff roast And no I was on the uh the Trump one the next one And Jeff Ross had been like he's been given away his best jokes for two weeks like don't stick him in here and Hasselhoff didn't want me Hasselhoff wanted like a bigger star And I'm rightly so but they call me and they're like you're doing warm up And I like I can't say no because I think if I say no, maybe they don't put me on the next roast But I was like this is a the worst gig you can get you're also so not a warm-up Exactly choice exactly and look respect you need warm-up guys. That's a it's a thankless gig But it's you're not your act I would go and first myself even not first on a show Oh, yeah, and they would tell me they were like you're you get a laugh and then you wait until you So the next joke so we can use your laughs for the roast and I'm like you're not making me like this more Yeah, but Gerardo like I saw him before at the red carpet and I'm like yeah, I'm doing warm-up and he's like You're talking warm-up and then he like pumped me up And I remember walking out on that stage and Gerardo's because the day is out there and Gerardo stands up and gives me a standing ovation is like Yeah, and I was like Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. Like that was like they meant the world to me He like got me through that. I've got like Pam Anderson heckling me behind me But Gerardo's like like standing up at every joke and clapping and I didn't understand what my job was at that doing warm-up And so I'm roasting people in the audience And I remember Jeff Ross even after was like I can't believe how you called and you did like eight and fat jokes about Nicole Egger And I was like I thought like she would be cool with it and like no one's cool with it. They're in the audience They didn't know they were getting roasted like I was it was a terrible terrible gig But Gerardo like truly got me through it. And then we talked you know after the roast I hugged him and that was last time I saw him Damn I remember we watched your older comics back in the day. Yes, and we were just super young and Was like 2009 or 10 something like that it was just last had lining gig there for sure But I just remember there's just audio of us like high-five. Yeah, I was so happy. Oh my god that jokes fucking it was a great hour Oh last hour I guess but yeah, he was a dude that did social commentary. He did Like the self-deprecating stuff. Yeah, like he kind of he hit every part you'd want as a comic I mean his bit about the worst president of all time. I'm so still is that one again about uh, it's about So no the worst they were saying Bush is the worst president of all time and he's like oh Yes, Selena. Yes, the president of Selena fan club And then he added that tag to about chaining at the end remember No, yeah, she got shot in the face. That's more vice presidential behavior. Yeah That's fun. So he just it's like oh he always had that one last like the fucking joke about uh Remember the jokie had about here the guy in the track or your Monica you got eight right and he's like Which is already hilarious, but he's like that's how they tell you. Oh He's like that Michael Moore's right. We have the worst fucking health care Always out of the extra you're like all right the jokes done. No, it's not he's always got the one last punch Yeah, he was one of my favorites for sure. He's been about uh soulmates a gay lion tamer got with a gay lion tamer. Oh, man Yeah, he was he was great. What are we having him? Now one of the best man and then uh It's interesting because he did a lot of like we talking about rock rock. There's a lot of that stuff that Yes, where he kind of pushes you away in the setup and then and then brings you back in the punch I mean rocks process is like it would kill me it would truly kill me to try to do it the way he does What do you mean like just standing on stage looking at the ground going hmm what else for like minutes Crazy and the audience is wrapped they're like the audience isn't complaining not like what's going on But if I'm not like joke joke joke like I'm losing it where he can just stand up there and find something and a lot of
Sometimes nothing comes, but his process is just like, I'm gonna hang out up here. The audience is totally cool with me being up here. I'm Chris Rock, but I would just, I would melt. I would be just as a ball of sweat, and he is just so calm and composed doing it with nothing. With nothing. - And not just nothing, kind of controversial topics too. Like he'll come out there and say, like I'm already at this whole bit about these movies now where women beat up all like a lady action star is beating up like 10 guys, and he's like, man, I could beat your ass. All three of you, if you came, I could kick all your asses and the women, they weren't into it, but he just locked in. - That wasn't a bit. He was threatening some women in the club that was pretty weird. - He would tell me jokes, he would tell me jokes that would make me like fall on the floor laughing. Like this would be the centerpiece of my act if I had this joke. And he was like, I can't do it 'cause I don't wanna like hurt my family's feelings. And I was like, I would throw my family under the bus for that joke so hard. But he just has like incredible stuff that he's like, it's not worth telling. Like he really thinks about his image and in a way that like beyond the joke that I would not have the ability to do. - Yeah, he told a story years ago about it. They asked him to do the porn awards. And he was like, nah, and then Jeff Ross did it. And then a year later, he got offered Madagascar. And he's like, they wouldn't give me that. If I did the porn awards, I can't be on this Disney cartoon. - Yeah. - Also, it's like his career is going well enough. He doesn't have to do the porn awards. We're gonna have this. - Wow, that's true too. - Yeah, he was, remember when he did the MTV Music Awards and just like roasted every word? - Yes. - I remember he introduced in sync as who likes lip syncing. - Ah. - Who likes lip syncing. He didn't even say their name. And then that was it. And this was when like you could kind of, he was a big enough star and MTV was a big enough thing that you could do that. But he truly didn't give a fuck. - I heard he called Nicole Egert fat too. - Now he, as a brutal gig too. - Oh, brood. Oh my God, you bombed it. - I did the warm up. I didn't do like actually the TV stuff, but like I remember Sebastian had a weird one and I think Silverman, it's just, it's kids. - Hey folks, I'm hungover on the road. Butt duty calls, we're in a green room with constant. Cheers, health. You know, you get older when two drinks somehow feels like 12 to the next morning. I'm telling you about it. And the annoying part is you can do everything right. Drink, water, eat food, go to bed early and still wake up, feeling rough and foggy. And change that O to an A. That's why I try and cheers the store. You take it after your drink or before bed and it works while you sleep. I was honestly skeptical at first by woke up feeling way more normal than I expected. Better sleep, clear ahead and more energy the next day. Cheers for store helps your body metabolize alcohol officially and supports overall liver health. And their whole thing is you wake up feeling at least 50% better or you're running back. Take cheers of store after your last drink or before going to bed and wake up feeling at least 50% better. Or you're running back. For a limited time, our listeners get 20% off their entire order while using code
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The audience at home does. So you have to pretend that it's like going great. Just pretend. And if you try to play to fucking Jack Nicholson who's like six martinis deep, like you're going to bomb that it's just a horrible, a horrible gig. And like award shows, I remember someone described it as a room that just fills up with losers. Like as the awards go on, people are just like, my words over, I lost. - Yeah. - And then like it just gets worse and worse. So it's a total hell gig. - Hell gig. - When seeing Jimmy Kimmel just crush it, because he just has the timing, knows what the reaction to it expect and knows he's playing to the TV at home. Like it's masterful. - Yeah, comedy too. - It's a really house. - Like rock, hoon is incredible. - Yeah. - I feel like rock kind of got screwed a little bit when he hosted the Oscars. Cause that was like right when the sensitivity was turning. - Sure. - And I remember Sean Penn came out like, "Judela, is a great American actor?" - Yeah. - You're all rich in getting laid by everyone. Take a fucking joke. - Yeah, joking. - Yeah. - But yeah, rock has so many of the, he gave me confidence in a joke that never fucking worked. - Right. - Where I saw him and he was like, I'm telling people this joke here is no joke. - Wow.
But then I told it for like another two weeks because I am and I was like that doesn't work That's what I always love the one comics would make talk you into bombing Yeah, I'd be like that that joke like don't listen to people like that joke and then like after like six months You're like why am I killing the momentum in my set? I'm gonna drop this Yeah, I did the thing where I'm like finding different lead-ins and it's still you know It's one you've sticking a word document in me or like maybe someday, but yeah, but that you have those you know I gotta ask was it weird doing less comic standing? Because that's such a weird Network-y industry show. It just didn't feel like that was cool. They hired you, but it was on that season - that's true Norm was I only did it because of norm and I thought if they're hiring me they want me to be me Yeah, and they did not They were like you get you have a total script control So I sat down with Frank Sebastian out and we wrote the scripts like we would just write our Dirty work right Frank Sebastian. Yeah, one of the best joke writers of all time, and we sat and I had a joke for everyone's intro got cut Every single person I introduced with a joke cut all of them They cut all of my anything that I would have like wanted to do and I remember like Norman I would get into fights live on the air Yeah, I get did not work out between us for the first like four episodes, and then we figured it out And we're like far apart like keen and every way and one of the fucking kill me Rosanne was like was being like as nice as she could just like to avoid my wrath because I was roasting everyone Treating it like it was my show. Yeah, like who cares about these comics like it's this is about me And then they told me I remember like one to Sykes and her producing partner were like don't worry We cut out anything that made you look like an asshole Oh, and I was like I did the show that's everything to be an asshole. Yes, so I I remember hating it and Sitting back stage waiting for the comics to finish and there's a hundred comics and they're all doing the same Like the gluten-free cookie bit. Yeah, like gluten must be the best part of the cookie I want a cookie made out of gluten. I'm just like this is awful. Yeah, Norm is like I know I'm I remember Norm saying to someone What the fuck is going on To a girl on stage who's who would do his dad introduced her like they had the dad introduce her and she finished and she's like And she had had a good set and Norm goes what the fuck is going on? Because I was told I'd be here to see the funniest people in the hundred funniest people in the country I don't think you're one of the hundred funniest people in the room And it's like a room full of like like cast audience members that I was like oh my god This is going I thought it was going to be like an amazing show Because of the tension between me and Norm because the fights like I have to like go and calm down We were getting to fights. Yeah, but then we'd come and meet afterwards and be like this is gonna be good TV And then they cut all of it and by the end you and Norm were bodies. We were cool Yeah, I saw them in the special you talked about yeah, yeah, we figured we just figured out how to work together But Norm was I mean Norm was out of pocket as a judge with the shit He would say and I felt like I had to defend some of the comics Yeah, and you really didn't know what he was going to be into from like Sometimes he'd be like I didn't like that. I want darker and then someone come up with a darker shit And I'd be like no you must have loved that and he'd be like why do you think I would love that? Oh, and I was like oh, okay, and then we're like we're there's tension there, but I'm like tension it makes good TV Sure, especially reality TV and in the last comic statement. They want to none of it We're someone bombed and the three judges and I are like crying laughing like how bad they did We're like this is gonna be the best part of the episode cut Because they didn't want to embarrass any comics. Yeah, but this point in this series There's a reason that you can stream every season of last comic standing except for mine Like it was just bad and and bennal that it was uh, but that's the problem with the with TV It's like I feel like if you had that as an internet show you'd leave all that in and it would be way more entertaining of course That sucks. I wish I mean if they had if there's someone told me we have all the fights between you and Norm on on it on tape I would be like this is going to just like shoot it into space. Yes, so that aliens know what greatness is like It was it was it was hard to be dealing with an idol and have it just not be going well But like neither one of us was gonna back down and I thought that this is amazing television Yeah, and they took all of it that I was like I was pretty upset Did you kind of want norm because if I had tinge with norm, I would that would be crumble because I want him to like me of course I mean, I really wanted him to like me. He gave me no choice Yeah, and I felt like I'm for saying to someone. I was like just because I'm ringo Doesn't mean I'm not one of the fucking beetles because they were like the judges are getting paid more than you And I was the one gig where I took where I'm like I'm taking less money so I can do whatever I want Not realizing that when you take less money, you can't do anything you want They don't give a shit about you right when you're getting a lot of money Then you can like you have power, but I was just like they were just cutting anything They were like you do whatever you want we're cutting it. Yeah, so it was and I realized that almost immediately You said it was it was tough. You had a great line with a Joe list when he was on it I think I like second or third he did he went pretty far, but a norm love Joe and norm was like Joe you are a great writer and you went wow Joe norm just called you ugly That was maybe the one joke that they left in of the whole of all like I was always trying to riff and find a moment to make it more than just like These like terrible comics bombing Joe was great on that show. Yeah, the top final 10 I was happy with there were people like Miss Pat Like who didn't make it that but I was like Miss Pat is like gonna win this thing Yeah, and then they would just it was just a weird weird show where they had one segment where they would make They had wander like tell me like reconstruct people's acts and be like do it like this do it like that And then they would come out and not do that well and they like the judges would be like we didn't like this They'd like wanted to told me to do that and they would cut that of course I want as furious that it was just like a weird. I hate that. It's terrible. It was a bad show. I'm glad it's canceled Same reality TV is it's just I feel like you don't watch a lot. Do you know? Yeah, I mean it's tough I don't watch a lot of TV. Yeah, but when I find something I like have you guys ever seen the show mr. In between no What's that it is fucking someone recommended to me like a week ago and it was on like 2018 to like 2020 it's an Australian TV show was on the FX and it's about an Australian hitman So he's like going around killing people. He's total badass, but he's got a daughter. Yes, and everyone's chill He's like got to kill you mate and then like that's the way it cracks like yeah, so it's like you can watch it And it just like kind of washes over you. Yes, I watch it's like I think it's like or something in the show Yeah, it's got like 22 episodes half hour and I watched it in like three days and it's like my favorite I wrote the guy and was like that you your show is fucking amazing They ended it perfectly like it's an awesome show. Yeah, I I loved it funny funny good monologues. Yeah, I have a good a he'll have a whole Brant about something and it's like big on social media now. You see a lot of clips. That's what's in between is the jam Wow how they held you come across that someone just like someone I was I like I have a book club now and I end up by saying like Like TV's bad movies are bad like read your books because I truly believe that TV and movies have gotten really bad in the past couple years corporations studios Forming together like there are fewer movies. They're all trying to be Marvel now Which is fine, but like they're all the same and TV is now like the streaming It's like you get 10 episodes every three years and someone was like watch mister in between I just looked it up and if you tell me shows about a hit man, and it's good. I'm excited about it. Yeah, yeah Back to just the last comic thing. Don't you get annoyed with these shows where they tell you they hire you to be you It's kind of like the morning TV when you they bring you on morning TV and you act like yourself and they get mad Doesn't that drive you crazy? That's that's what we do Yeah, but when it's the network they never want the full of shit, you know It's like what he's saying about movies right now where it's a big studio. They want They don't want something unique. They don't want a chance. They want what they're like this will hit Yeah, but that's why you like norm is because he's norm. I don't think that's why we do comedy clubs They will not get fired the executive TV shows just want to not get in trouble and not get yelled at They have to have you on for whatever reason like the club has a deal with them But I don't do morning shows and I mean I had went through the space where I had to share and it usually went Terribly yeah, but I've done I'm doing some show in Australia That's online that like went pretty well, but they were like don't swear like don't do any of your jokes Don't tell us what the jokes are about and I did just like roasting them. Yeah, but it's like there It's just give me a lot of options as a comedian here exactly right exactly, but yeah, I just I try to avoid all of that stuff Yeah, yeah, I Do you watch a lot of old movies you seem like you would watch old one? I just watched someone recommended Point blank to me. I literally was talking about that movie last night. I love the book series to the star series. I read so many of the star books and it made me want to be reading the book Instead of watching the movie and they've made like eight different versions of Point blank. Yeah, the notes and payback. Yeah, I think it was great. It was great But it just again, I just was like I'd rather be reading the book right now. The book series is awesome It's a Parker series. That's a good wreck to have you haven't seen that so great, but yeah That's like kind of like a forgotten cool. I found a first edition copy of I forget the It's I don't know if it's called Playland. It's it's a West Lake Parker book, but it takes place in an amusement park Where like mobs to chase him into an amusement park and it's basically die hard like 30 years before die hard came out He's in an amusement park like killing all these guys with the rides and shit
- Awesome. - It's awesome. Those books are funny too, that's the thing too, is like they're just blunt and funny and, yeah, awesome, awesome series. - Yeah. - I don't know what point blank is a movie? - Yeah, leave Marvin. - Oh, okay. - It shot really cool too. It has like a weird vibe of that. I think it's like the late '60s or something. I don't know when it was like that. - The late '60s, like the Dean from Animal House is one of the villains, like it's just like-- - Dean Warmer. - It's great. - All right, I'll check that out. - Yeah. - Dean Martin. - Yeah. - Oh, Animal House, no Dean Warmer. I think it's a Ned Beatty. Nevermind, yeah. - Ned Beatty, deliverance. - Yeah, tough roll. - Tough roll, especially if you recognize. - Good for him. - Yeah. - Someone had to do that roll. That's a tough one to be recognized. - I was full of bathroom. You heard the story that like the director was like, what would, did you ever get bullied when you were a kid and he was like, yeah, they would tell me to squeal like a pig, they'd call me fat. And then he had the actors say that to him without telling him anything. Where he's like having like a fucking like breakdown. Like, they got the performance, but it was. - That's a great actor to let that in. - Yeah. - He's a hit man, another music hit man, and I think Mikey and Nikki, another good, yeah. - Wow. - Good flick too. - Not very interesting. - That's a 70's flick. That's a cool one. I got a movie wreck. - Please. - Anatomy of a murder, Jimmy Stewart, entire score by Duke Ellington, really cool. - What? - It's like, if you like the courtroom drama, great dialogue, like, is that a Hitchcock movie? - No, it's auto-preminger, but it's awesome, dude. It's an awesome-- - Never heard of that. - Yeah, very cool. Yeah, that's an old-- - That's a fun one, yeah. - That's a cool one. Peter Fock and Cassavetti's. Elaine made direct in it, very cool. - Whoa. - Slowest fuck, first 25 minutes you got to get through, but then it's awesome. - Okay. - But-- - All right. - So you toured with rock, you've, I mean, we, I think we were talking once when I was out here, you were saying that you don't go out to you have 45 minutes on the road. - On my last tour, 'cause it was like, my 20-year anniversary, my agent was just like, just go, pick six clubs and go, and I had 30 minutes. So I had to fill 15 pretty quickly. At first, it was like, let me do, like, jokes, my favorite jokes, my old specials, hated that. Like, it just felt-- - Yeah. - It felt hard to do, and I was like, taking questions. And a lot of my last hour came from that, but people would be like, talk about norm. You know, so I got a norm story. Talk about the roast. I had my, like, Tyson's story. Like, jokes that would get cut. And now I'm taking questions and it's all bullshit. Like, none of it's gonna make it into my act. That I don't know what. I mean, I just used up all the things people were interested in. - Yeah. - But now I had, like, I went out with 45 minutes to clubs and now I'm building it for, I'm doing clubs until, I just went out a few months ago. I'm, until September, and then going into theaters. But I've got, like, 50-55. And, hopefully I'll have the hour by then. Well, you kind of have a level, like, a standard that you can't go under it. You know, people expect a certain amount of quality from you, joke-wise and all that. So if you dip, that's a bad look. - Yeah, and I think people like, I mean, if I pull out the paper and I'm like, I'm trying out new jokes, people are thrilled. Whether they're bad or good. You know, they enjoy me making the check mark or being like, oh, geez, laughing and how bad it is. I could never do what, and I don't judge comics for doing this when they're like, it's a workout weekend. Like, I'm going to a club just to work stuff out, come and check it out. Like, I just feel like I've set my bar. - Yes. - The comics I respect the most now are the ones who just have a high bar. Because it's like, you see a lot of people, I won't name any names. But you can tell almost who got a two-special deal from Netflix, because they will, they'll say, you got a two-special deal. You're ready with this one. - The first one's pretty good. - We need the new one in six months. - Yes. - And you can tell which one is that six-month one that I'm just like, I could never do that. That I've always done, like one special, when I'm ready, we'll do it. And I'm happy to take longer, but I want to be able to just tour it everywhere. And I take the special because I've run out of places to go with it. It's like, I'm just like, all right, time to put out a special. It's like, I enjoy the live performance so much. And I want to go everywhere. - Totally. - I want to go to like some fucking casino in Mississippi, where everyone's in oxygen tanks. You see how it goes there? Because once it's done, once the special is out, it's over, and I have to almost mourn the material before I get into the new one. And I always say I might be retiring. - Yes. - Because I have to feel that way in order to put everything into it. And then when I'm done, I'm like, well, let's, if I get one more joke, then I kind of have to tell that joke and then I need to build an hour around it. - Yeah. - But I never know what it's gonna look like. It's very daunting that this truly might be it. We're like, now I have the book club. I'm getting into that book world. I'm being asked to write four words for books that I really like. I interview authors, and so I think my next chapter might be more on the writing side of things. But I travel has become like the band of my existence. - So nightmare. - Airports have gotten worse and worse. My new thing is I don't take connecting flights anymore. I just fly as close as I can get, and then get driven. - Right. - Whoever I have to go because I just hate the airport experience that I could see this being the last hour, and I'm gonna milk it. Like every other weekend, if I take a special years from now, that's okay. There might not even be a special market in like three years. You know, if people decide, - They feel less special every year. - They definitely feel less special, but Amazon and Hulu got in the mix, so became a competition again. But when they're like, well, license it. Like, you're not licensing shit. Like, not from me. Like, you either buy it, or I'm not doing that. I don't wanna put anything on YouTube at just at this point, that I might not do a special. Like, Tosh hasn't done a special in 15 years. - I missed Tosh. - But we've also come up before us. We needed you to. We, no one would buy our shit. So our first specials at Posher were YouTube. It was, you know, but-- - That was poor, I got saturated too. - Yeah, YouTube is the future. Like, I didn't get, I don't judge. I understand why, but like, for me, it's like, I just, I've gotten paid double for every special I've done. - Whoa. - You know, and if that continues, you'll get another one. But if they're like, we'll give you the same. - Wow. - I'll keep the hour. Like, Tosh has the hour, and just towards when he wants to. - I'd love to see that. - And once you have enough specials out, like you don't really need more. You know, so if you have a Netflix special, it's like, I've got three. So like, what does a fourth do for you compared to just having an hour? - Yeah. - You make so much more with that. That I like the idea of just having an hour and never retiring. - Yeah. - Just taking my time and doing what I want to do. - Like a Leno, just have your hour. - Yeah, and never posted anywhere. But don't you feel like, to me, it's about the Boulder pushing it up, you know, it's just that's something to do. Work on the new hour. Then when you put one out, you work on the next one. - Of course, but I'm just-- - The Boulder is getting heavier. - Yes. - And I'm running out of things to talk about, you know, that eventually, like I'm very happy with I'm proud of my new hour, but I'm surprised. Because I was like, maybe I'm done after the last one, but I'm like, you find the way, and that is fun. But I'm like-- - But don't say that every hour. - Every time, but I'm getting older. - It's a young man's game. The traveling, the jokes are so short, it's hard. - Well, you have this postpartum funk if you get rid of the material and you're just like depressed and you're like, what the fuck am I? 'Cause you feel like you are the act, like that. I identify as like this. I feel it's tough 'cause towards the end, you're like, I'm killing, but I also feel like who gives this shit, I know these work. 'Cause I'm about to tape. So they better work. - It's just kind of, but like I'll tape the special, and when I'm like right up at the burned out, and then I kind of get a second wind and go to Europe and do other things, where like, and I'm like, I wanna kill myself if I have to do this again. - Yeah, yeah. - And then the last show I'm on stage being like, I wish there were six more months this tour, like it's like it's a mental thing. Well, I've thought about like going to a hypnotist to be like, make yourself think every show's the last show. And then you have that energy. Because if you're doing two shows in a night, the first show you're thinking about that late show. And the late show's like almost easier, and they're both good shows. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference 'cause I'm professional, but it's so much of it is mental. I just think like when I'm in my fifties, which I will be when I'm writing the next hour, like, what is that? - I know. - That the idea of having something else to do would be nice. So who knows what happens and what the industry looks like. - Yeah, I heard Jim Jeffery say, I think he's done eight YouTube specials, and he's like, do I need a ninth? Does that make a difference? What are we doing here? - You wanna see me? - You wanna see me? - And he goes, I've done nine specials, and each one is worse than the next. - Oh, that's scary too. - Oh, no, it's in the last rather. - Yeah. - Yeah, but, you know, I mean, yeah, you're right, you get burnt out. One of my ideas, especially your style, which is like, you're hiding the ball. You're tricking the audience, you know? But your style is like weirdly palatable. I can show clips of you to my mom and she'll laugh because of the writing, you know? So in a weird way, your style doesn't seem that, like, I hear you get called to the dark comedian, but you don't seem like a dark comedian to me. It just seems like it's, you know, it's a turn, it's a right turn. - I, I dark subjects, but it's not always a dark joke. You know, it's like making the light of something. And that's one of the things that makes appeals to me to doing another one after this is that like, when your back is truly against the wall, then what do you come up with? And I am getting better, you know? Just because of like, doing it for 25 years, that like, what does that look like? Which always makes me think like, what if I did it again? People are like, what if you just did stories or it's more like your podcast where you're just kind of talking? And that's fine, but I feel like my audience wants to see the hard work. Like, wow, this guy really like carved the sculpture out of like ivory and we get to like appreciate it for 45 minutes to an hour. - Yeah. - That, who knows? But I have to treat each hour like it's my last, just my own mental well-being. - Yeah. - But I'm sure when I'm done, I'll wanna get back on stage and do it again. - Yeah, that's gonna kick in, I think later, a couple of years ago by where you're doing the book,
club and you're going to be itching. I got to get back out there. I got to do another hour. But it's good to miss it. Yeah. Of course. We talked with a little time. The burnout is real. Like I do feel burned out from the road. This is the first time I've taken like real time off the road and I feel pretty good. I'm every other weekend now because the worst part for me was landing at LA acts on a Sunday, knowing I had to come back on Wednesday. Oh, the road at LA is so much worse. That was what was like merger to me that like now I come back on Sunday. I have the I have the next weekend off and I come back the next Wednesday. And I'm like, okay, this is much easier than it used to be. But I'm happy to take the time before I felt like I would get rusty if I wasn't out every weekend. And I'm like, you know what? I'm almost better. I'm almost like, I'm like, people are like, I've never seen you have so much fun on stage. Like you're laughing on stage. And I used to know I'm stone faced. And then it's like, because it's, it's still fresh to me that I can enjoy it more instead of just like being a machine. Yeah. It's kind of like seeing a girl every other weekend. You're like, ah, it's still fun. But if I see every weekend, it's brutal. Aren't you married? But that's why I do the road. It's quite a bit. It is good to miss things. It is. You need to miss things to still love them. Colin Quinn was like, you don't get, you don't like forget how to do stand up. People think you have to get up every night. Like, no, you don't feel rust. I think I have that little like, oh, wait, I'm a little slower here. A little, a little rusty. And that like, I have to kind of like my memory. I'm using more of my memory that way. But in a way that makes the show better, I think, you know, if I have to look at my set list for a second, okay, I'm glancing down when I take a sip of water, but it's still like, it's more fresh in my head. Like a lot of actors will say like, they like memorizes script and then forget about it for a week. So when they come in, they're fresh. Right. And I think there is something to that in stand up that you can only get once you've been doing it for like over 20 years and you kind of just have a little more confidence and it will come to you. Yeah. I have a theory that comics have the least dementia because we're constantly using our brain. We're trying to remember stuff. We're writing jokes. The meat of million people. Then you have to get on a flight. If they look at everything, I think that keeps us sharp. You know, that's my theory. We know these old guys. It's certainly a theory. I forget. I've met so many people with it like, hey, how's it going? I'm like, hey, what's up? How's it going? And then they walk away and someone's like, you hate him. Like, why were you so nice? I'm like, I have no idea who I was talking to. But it's when you hate it. Yeah. We're like, we had a bad experience. I think a club owner that I got into it with. And then you like see him at Montreal and they're like, how's it going? He's like, great. How are you? Great. How the kids? And like, yeah, you despise that person. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, I just think, you know, you're my dad will do these little puzzles because he's like, I'm trying to keep my brain fresh. But I think we're doing puzzles every night on stage and setless and all that. That's theory. Maybe like, maybe Harville, Harlan Williams is dementia. But, you know, I think, I think we're just staying fresh all the time. We don't need the puzzles. It's a theory. I can see what you're saying. You got to memorize your act. And then you have to be able to be quick in the moment was like, actors are trained to like memorize everything and then forget it forever. Exactly. Lawyers are trained to memorize everything and memorize it forever. Yes. We got like, no, the rules of the law that everyone's brain works a little differently. Yeah. I can see the comic brain being better. And then we can go. We can look at Don Rickles goes forever. Joan Rivers goes forever. I got bad news about both of them. We were deprived of some good Joan years at the end. I feel like she should have had a few more years. I think she's definitely. I got to, I got to meet her. I got to work with her. I got to have her on my show, which was great. Like Joan Rivers was huge for me. Yeah. I still have like a framed like no card. She sent me like, it just thanks. I was, she had a show called Embed with Joan and set me a card to be like, thank you. And when she died, like I enjoy, she was like scared of me. It was when I had to just like offensive. And she thought I was going to come on and roast her. But I was like, no, I think you're the most pure comedian there is. Yeah. I've never apologized. And I think the episodes got taken down. They might be up back again. I remember this. But when she died, I was upset and I went back and watched it. Wow. I had seen it the first time and then turned it off. But at the end, I just let it keep running. And at the end, it's her sitting at her kitchen table, kind of deconstructing the interview and being like, you know, I thought he was going to be mean, but he was actually so sweet. And I think he's just so funny. And like her talking about me felt like like that was the goodbye. Like it was just like amazing moment to be able to watch after after she had passed. But I thought the world of Joan Rivers. When do you think also to be able to help her like be with the kids again? Right. She was thrilled to be on Comedy Central. And I'm glad she got to be back on the tonight show. Yeah. Before before she was so stupid. So dumb. You can't do that. So dumb. What do you mean? Carson Bander. Oh, that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to take work as a comedian. But I get why Carson Bander. Yeah. Because she didn't ask permission to be on the show. I don't know why Leno didn't have her back. Leno was like, of Carson Bander. It's almost like when Pete Rose got banned. And then the guy died like a week later. And so the next guy couldn't reverse it. Yeah. Because Roselle was so beloved that it's like, why can't reverse this. This guy just died. Right. Because if he lived maybe in like a year or two, they let him back in. But I also think that's stupid. But yeah, I got it. But I was glad that following like the first thing he did was bring Joan Rivers back. Yeah. She was thrilled to do it. And talk about not giving a fuck. There's a montage of her on YouTube. Just if you ever get bored of her doing the red carpet roast. And it is. She says shit where you're like, Jesus Christ. That was on NBC or whatever. One of my friends and I love Joan to pieces. But one of my favorite things was when she died. Twitter was like an outpouring of comedians being like, we love her. And then someone was like, Anthony, you've got to see this. And it was all of her writers from fashion police or whatever. Where she would like, they wanted to unionize and she fought them on every step of the way. I've like, we're too, we're too expensive for unionized. You're not getting, you're not we're paying you what we're paying you. You're lucky to have this job. And they were celebrating her death. Like it was a summer bin Laden. Really? And it was like to watch every all this outpouring of like heartfelt tributes. And then to see people being like, I'm glad she's dead was even to me was funny. I'm sure she would have appreciated it. Yeah. If she had seen it. Damn. It is interesting because you're a dick on stage. So if you're, I think the bar is lower for you off stage. So if you're like even kind of nice, like, oh, that guy's really nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hear that all the time about you. Yeah. He's actually a nice guy. Yeah. People, I think now I think it's easier for me to be nice because people come up afraid already. Yeah. So it's easy to kind of like, okay, let me downplay this where it's the guys who seem nice on stage cause we have to be dicks. Not that nice off stage. But I think of like Louie Anderson. Like you saw Louie and you're like, Louie, you want to come up and like, was he a dick? Belly, I think he would have to be to keep your boundaries. I bet Brian Regan, like, like it drives him crazy. Yeah. For it's Seinfeld. Well, like it just ignore people completely because they want to come up and like, I loved your show and he's like, I know you did. Everybody fucking did, you know, that like because of that, he has to be. We all know how sick of Nate can be. Remember hanging out with Nate in the early years, you're like, you're terrifying. And now he's, you know, he's the squeakiest clean guy. Great guy, but he'll, he'll bite your head off. I don't hang with Christians. Nice guy is kind of a trap in the rest of your life. Well, Regan's a booze bag. I mean, yeah, you got to, you got to, you got to get people to know you as nice. They just want to, like the people who can't have a bad day. Yeah. Like Sarah Silverman used to say that her fans were crazy because they all thought they were the only one because she would get so much shit that everyone, people would be like obsessed with the chain of protect yourself. Well, I think people just think I'm like a psychopath. So if I'm, you're just like, oh, you're normal. It's, I'm not like that nice. I'm just not like going to kill you. Yeah, evil. I don't carry knives. Do you ever find that a crowd just doesn't get you because you have a thing and sometimes they're just like, what's up with this guy? It's just mean and dark. Yeah. I mean, it happens a lot if I'm on like an improv or like a showcase show with a bunch of people, but I remember my brother came to see me once and I was like, oh, I just bombed and he was like, you didn't bombed. He was like, how the audience was laughing and the other have had their jaw on the table. Like, oh my God. Like, what's he doing? Where they're not like upset. They're just shocked. Yeah. That I'm not like other people. Most people think of comedy as like airline food and they want, they want hack. You know, they, they come for hack. Exactly. And they expect it. So when you're like the opposite, they're just kind of in shock, you're not having a bad set. They're just experiencing it in a different way. Maybe they're not laughing, but they're not like, they're enjoying themselves. Yeah. But you're still established now. People know who you are. But in the early days, that must have been hard. You must have wanted to pivot so badly. Just like, maybe I'll switch. It's not, they're not getting it. I knew if I pivoted, I would fail. Why? I knew that I, there was no, and I have friends who've said like they changed their act on the road and they come back to LA and their act doesn't work anymore. That's great. And I was like, I'm just gonna, I'd rather bomb until people figure it out. And I thought there was a joy in people watching me and I like, no one's laughing, but it makes them laugh more because the table, like I get a lot of letters of like, I loved you more because the audience next to me hated you. And so that made me like you more. And so I just like, let's lean into that. Yeah. And I mean, I like the energy. But if like the audience is kind of like fuck you, like that's fun too. Like it's still entertaining. And I believe in my jokes. Yeah. I just think it's commendable in those early years when you're like, you're scrounging. Yeah. You stayed in the pocket. I had, I had like period of about eight months from when I quit foul and sort of headlining. Yeah. Where I had an album out. So I had some fans who knew what I was all about. But people who like I got flired into the room and I'm like eating.
shit. And then the Trump roast happened. And the next day it was sold out with everyone knowing it's dark jokes. Yeah. And then things were different. But going, I mean, if I'm at a show with like Nikki Glazer and Chelsea Handler, they're there to see Nikki Glazer and Chelsea Handler. And I am a shock. And it's fun because it reminds me of when I started out. Right. And when I was just a big surprise. Yeah. That was interesting. There's got to be moments of self-doubt though in those eight months where you're just like, what the fuck? Those those to the hotel when you're in the room and you're like, fuck, like those are long nights till the next. It was a long night. I mean, opening for people as a feature act was worse. Sure. It was worse. Like we're prepared with sometimes. I would be I was pretty lucky. And then I got to go with established people. But if I open for Doug Benson, I bombed so hard that people would leave before. Guys not talking about movies. They would be so mad at what I was doing. But if I opened for Brian Possein, they loved me. Like they loved me or Sarah Silverman. They loved me. And I was lucky enough to get to go with Benson and Possein mostly. But Benson, I would eat shit. But he liked you. He liked me just because I was like fun after the show. And like I would get wasted and have a good time. By the way, comics don't know enough about that. A lot of it. Just be fucking pleasant. We're good hang. You play I remember Doug saying you didn't when you got wasted. And I would be like black out. He was like, you didn't try to wrestle me or hug me. But I think it's the guys who like get like modeling or a start crying or like one hug or like, this is the best time of my life. He's like, you just didn't touch me. Yeah, don't be the guy who wrestles when he gets drunk. It's going to be the guy who sings the Humpty Dance. Yeah. In the back of the car. And you can get as fucked up as you want. Damn. I shouldn't have touched Doug. I fucked up. Where is Doug? I haven't seen that guy in 10 years. He's around. Okay. He grew his hair up. He's doing his thing. All right. Yeah. I used to do Douglas movies once a month. Remember that show is huge. He still does it. But he, I don't know. He just doesn't ask the same people, I guess. He's doing it as part of the festival, I think. It's around. All right. Great. What's your favorite part of Europe to hit when you're when you're traveling for crowd dangerous to chill? I mean, it always changes. I loved amps to dam. I used to think I would like move there. And then last tour, I was there for like a week. And I was like, over it by the end. Yeah. The narrow streets are tough. The bikes, it's a walking city. And then it's hard to walk. You just walk through all of it. And you're like, all right, I'm good. Yeah. But I really like, I mean, I love Dublin. I think of it, like more is what the audience is like. And the audiences are always fun. But I would wake up in some countries where I was like, where the fuck am I? Like I don't know where I am. I'm in like Cyprus or some shit where I didn't know. I liked all of Europe. I really liked Berlin. I loved that audience. I loved Scotland. It was really fun. Edinburgh is like one of those beautiful places I've ever been doing that festival was great. You did that? Yeah. This is the full month. You know, I did like two nights. I used to want to do the full month because I remember Morgan Murphy went one year a long time ago. Yeah. And said she did the full month and ate shit every night for like four people who hated it. But when she came back, she was bulletproof. Like nothing could throw her. And I was like, I want that. I want to feel like that. And my agent would never let me go because he was like, you're not going to make any money. And now when I was going through on tour and I got to just do it for like two nights and it was great. But just walking around that city. It's fucking just Harry Potter. Yeah. It's like Harry Potter in real life that I enjoyed that. I just watched that Hannibal. Did you ever see the Hannibal doc about Edinburgh? No. It's pretty great. And he hates it like 23 days in. And then he just snaps and then he turns it around. He loves it. But there was something about those gigs early on. We were like, you dread those Tuesday through Saturday gigs. But then you come back doing like an hour or night to hours a night and you're like, Holy shit. I added. So there was that value of just running shit into the ground. Whether the crowds good or not, you figure shit out. That's comedy. It's like you're miserable. You hate it. You get on stage. You have a great time on stage. And so you're like, you're having the worst time of your life for like two months. But you're getting better. And the shows again, the shows are like everything. If you had like a week off, like I went and did Asia. I did like Hong Kong, Taipei, I was old. Brutal. Because I had like a week off in between. I'm just sitting in a hotel room in like Taipei during monsoon season, paying for three hotel rooms for like my opener. I just I message you about this, asking you about this. And you were like, this is a lot. It's a lot because I just in Australia and then New Zealand. And I was like, I was ready to go home. So you're sitting this hotel room and it's raining too hard to even do anything outside. And then the show was like, they don't understand English humor. So they would come to kind of see a show. It was interesting. But then that's it. And it's like 200 people after you've been doing like thousand seat theaters everywhere. And there weren't choices so specific. It's not like a big cartoon jacket, my translate. It was all expats or like people does not understanding. But you're in this weird venue. I was like, never, never again. I like I would go there and visit in a heartbeat. Beautiful places. Yeah. But doing a show there was like, why? Yeah. And the week off is too much. It's way too much. Yeah. It's way too much. And you don't think about it when the agent sends you the schedule. You're just like, yeah, I'm going to do all these. And then you get on the plane. You're like, wait, what? Yeah. How long did I need to pay more attention to what I'm what I'm doing? Yeah. I had that with us. I did. I've done a couple times with the last one. I did three weeks instead of two. And I was like, I wish I was home at that third week. It was too much. I thought about going to Australia and like staying for a week before the shows begin because you're getting you like a day or two. And then you start. Yeah. And that first show you feel like you're on night. Well, you're walking like you're just like, I don't know where I am. I went started in Perth last time. And I was like, why am I in Perth? It's on the other side of the fuck like you landed in Australia. You have another like four hour flight. Yeah. I was like, I just want to give me Melbourne and Sydney. But I got to do the Sydney Opera House. And it was like insane. It felt like like I've done Sydney Opera House in Carnegie Hall. And they were both like, oh my god. Yeah. You really feel every moment of like this is a career high. You know, I don't know if it gets better than that. People like about arenas. But I'm like, give me a perfectly built theater. Agreed. Where the acoustics are incredible. And that is the best you can get. Wow. Opera House. That's really when you made it. It felt I remember being like, which room in the opera house? Yeah. The opera house. Wow. I remember like it just killing having great time killing. And then right at the end, my last joke, a woman just got up to use the restroom. And the acoustics are so insane that I could hear every footstep. And I'm still killing. But it's just like, wow, like this place is really built for like the greatest symphony of all time. But it's just you telling fucking dick jokes. And it just felt incredible. Yeah. I can't wait to go do that. Carnegie Hall. I said it was built before speakers. So the sound is supposed to be I hope for Jimmy Car there. And that was a hot joke. His crowd just wants jokes. But the problem was Louis was in the front row. So I'm just looking at Louis while doing jokes. And then he wants to be supportive. So he'd do a joke. He'd be like, This is brutal. You killed me. Is it the third row or do a set? First row is rough. Yeah. Oh, when they sit your family up, like, what are you doing? I know. I'm doing a blowjob story. I see my mom's face. Like, oh, I'm like, this is rough. She's heard it a million times. Where he at on Jimmy Car? I think he's a top notch. Oh, he's great. I mean, he's been almost like a mentor to me where like I always feel like my I try to be prolific. And I think about how like my idols, I've like like Stephen Wright was my idol. I he put out two specials. You know, I put out like five or six, you know, but Jimmy Car is so far ahead of me. So prolific. So much. Yeah. That he's a guy that I will really sit and try to learn from that I absolutely love love Jimmy Car. I was last time I heard from Jimmy. He had done that special where he was like, I'm going to get canceled. Like, the special will get me canceled. Yeah. And then he got in trouble for the joke about the Roma about the gypsy. The gypsy. Yeah. And he's like, would you he was like, would you sit and put out a tweet or speak out about this? And I was like, motherfucker, the special is about getting canceled. Yeah. What's your problem? And he wanted you to be like, this isn't offensive. What does he want you to write? He wanted me just like defend him as a comic. And I was like, I'll talk about it on my podcast and like how this is like stupid. But he's like, I mean, he's like, you know, escaped through the vent of many a cancellation. Yeah. Uh, you know, having jokes about like soldiers, uh, being amputees where the soldiers come out and say he's visited the hospitals. Like he can say whatever he wants. Right. And we said that he had a joke about the royals or something. I think he like a tax evasion thing that he got like a scandal. Oh, I remember that. But then like, uh, the new king, uh, like sent him a letter being that would you write jokes for me? You know, and he's like, has that frame that he's like, I mean, he's bulletproof now. Yeah. But I love I love Jimmy. Yeah. He's got years too. Like everybody thinks he's a one-liner guy. I saw him at the seller a while ago and he was running a foul and it was killer. But then he did his five minutes. He's like, all right. Let's have some fun. And he's a shift gears and he goes filthy. And the crowd is like, the walls are shaking. Then he could do crowd work. He could riff. I mean, he's, he's, he's got it all. Yeah. That's great. He's always been supportive. If I go to London, he'll come to the show and you hear that fucking laugh, you know, like he's weirdly open about his surgery and the transplants and all that too. He's got a lot of wisdom. Like I'll see him on these smart guy pods. He's intellectual pods. And he says, she'll be like, that's great. That's really smart. Yeah. I mean, he's concise in every way. Yeah. Jokes thoughts. Yeah. He's good at that. I went to London once and it was a terrible weekend London. My first time ever there, I'm doing the Soho theater. And it was went, it was like during Edinburgh, so none of the comics are in town. Yeah. So it's the loneliest week of my life. I'm just like miserable.
It's so hot, I'm just doing a seven o'clock show and there's no opener even, it's just me doing it for an hour. And Jimmy has me over to his house. He has me and Jim Jeffries over. He's showing me around, he's showing me everything and then he comes to the show that night. And I make a joke about like the cab driver drops me off at the house and he's like, wow, what do you got to do to get a house like this? And I go tax evasion. And then I tell that joke at the show and everyone laughs, Jimmy laughs. And then Jimmy had these TVs. And he had like his like thought screen TVs outside that he was like, I got these from children's burn units because they have to keep it so moist in there. And they have a TV that is special coding so it can rain on it. And then I'm like, and then he's got these TVs and like people are laughing and Jimmy's laughing a little bit less. And I'm like, oh, I'm telling too much about your life right now. I need to stop this. But he's always been fantastic. And a guy, I will, I would ask advice of Jimmy Carr, as much as I, like a door Chris Rock. Jimmy Carr is more like me. - Sure. - He would be a guy I would go to for advice if I did that kind of thing. - Jimmy's also like-- - Tax evasion? - Yeah. - Exactly. - Well, you never saw him start really. Like I feel like he was, I just saw him, he was amazing. I never, you never saw like the early years. - He was like, early years. - Remember on Comedy Central? - Oh, he was like, look at your own shit. - Yeah, what was it? - He was fatter then. - Distraction, right? Was that it? - I don't know. - I think it was distraction. You had to like put your own stuff on, like in a box. And if you got the question wrong, they would destroy your thing instead of winning the other thing. - Yeah. I don't remember this. - It was on Comedy Central. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, I remember his late night sets. - Killer. - I feel like we were like, maybe we were the last era of comics that were like desperately trying to get on late night. - Oh, yeah. - That was the thing. I mean, it's, it's, I, some comics are pumped to do foul on ones or something, but it's not a thing really. - But it was even before the internet made it a thing where it was like just to have the credits. - Yes. - For them to say, you've seen them on Kimmel was like a huge uplift. - Totally. - We used to care about, I don't know if you guys, did you guys ever care about Premium Blend? Was that a thing for you? - We watched it. - We watched it after that. - That was for us. - Like it was like, you got Premium Blend, then you got a late night, then you got a half hour. - Yep. - And it was before you even spent like half hour seemed like the biggest thing. - Yeah. - You could headline off that back. Young comics can't headline off that anymore. Because now they're going against TikTok people and YouTube people, but you got a Conan set. They're like, all right, I guess you can maybe do an hour and it was a life changer. - But I remember, there were like five, it was a five year period where the only thing that sold tickets was if you said you'd been on Chelsea Handler. - I remember that. - And I had never been on Chelsea Handler, but that was the only thing that sold tickets. The Netflix changed everything. All of a sudden Comedy Central was doing a lot of specials and then Netflix just took over. - Yeah, yeah, that handler was like Bobby Lee, Mosha, Natasha, Jokoi. Yeah, they were killing it. - But now with podcasting, I mean, podcasting first, like a cut out morning radio. - Thank you. - You could go sell tickets that I haven't even do morning radio 'cause of your podcast. And now let's cut out Comedy Clubs. Where you people go, I feel like people go straight from, not everybody, people go straight from the podcast to a theater because they have that market when they can sell out a theater. Where a lot of this Comedy Clubs I'm going to, they're like, thank God you're here. - Really? - Because the big names just are skipping clubs all together. - Wow. - What's the guys who have the same act every year? - Yeah, yeah. - They come through and it's diminishing returns. - That's why I need the clubs. I'm back in the clubs now to work out. - I'm gonna have to start back up soon. I'm not enough time yet to do it again, but I hopefully soon, you know? - I love the clubs and then when I go to theaters, I'm like, thank God I'm out of the clubs. But I love that, like, give me brick walls and a low ceiling. - Say it. - It's so much fun. - Yes. - And then you get to a theater, like I did the theater Tuesday and I was like, I'm so glad I had that club experience to get to, otherwise I wouldn't be appreciating it, I wouldn't be feeling it the same way. - Yeah. - But it's clubs are nice. - To build up and also right before you tape. There's something about the repetition right before you tape, where you're just like, oh, I feel fit. And when you're just building up, you're like, oh, I can bomb here a little more than I can and I can't do this in a theater. I can build up. - Yeah, yeah, theaters are more of a presentation. Here's my act or a club I feel like I'm tinkering. - Well, I was talking to Burke Christcher and he was like, he's like arenas are the perfect way to get ready for a special. I was like, please, stop him by. - That's great. - He's like, because everyone's watching you on the screen. - Oh. - So he's like, it's like as if you're taping the special every night where you just know how it's gonna play on a screen versus when you're in a club when you just really don't know what it looks like. - Yeah. - And I was like, oh, I can see that making sense to you. - Say we all that Bert, he knows marketing and like those little tricks. Like he knows his special, two of his specials have the most retention, like record. And he knows all these moves. Like put the clothes there first or cut out this, cut out that. Like he got, he gave me shit for his like, don't talk about the city or in on a special. Don't have like an intro, just get right to it. I think he kind of started a lot of that. - Sometimes the intro is like, it depends who you are. I thought the Roy Scoville did one of those intros that was really funny. - They're great. - Yeah, I mean, it depends who you are. - It depends who you are. I don't like this one size fits all, like this is what you do. - He's dialed in with that shit. - Yeah, a lot of people are. A lot of people who have had a certain level of success are like, it's this or nothing. It's like every fucking comic's different. - I know. - Sign felt like that. He's absolute. You can't gain four pounds or you're different. You can't wear leather on stage or whatever. Like I'm, yeah, I don't believe in any of that. - Yeah. - I've talked about the city I'm in. Like I don't have it. All my specials start with me on stage like mid. But I talk about the city here and like why wouldn't you? - Yeah. - If you have a good joke. - Exactly. - If you're just like New York City and then like, yeah, like who cares? But you have to have something to say about it. - Yeah. - Agreed. - Well, where are you gonna be coming up on tour, Anthony? - Fuck knows, let's see. Let's click on the like, Braia Spokane. I love all the clubs around LA. - Yeah, me too. - And I'm just doing like, clubs I really like. Fort Wayne is awesome. Talk about brick walls, low ceiling, Oklahoma City. I love, I just had to move that. - It's a good one. - That'll be there. - And I'm doing that Eugene Oregon Olsen Run Comedy Club. - Kevin Olsen, I hear great things about it. - Yeah, I never heard of it. - And they were like, and you set your own ticket price. - What? - That I used to say what you want. And then like Ali Wong came and did like $80 tickets for like two weeks, just two shows a night and killed it. And I was like, wow. And then like, what do you think Anthony, $45 for your tickets? And I was like, I think so. And then I look at the website. And it's all, everyone's less than 45. People are like 25, 35, whatever. And then there's someone named Ashley Gavin. - Oh, I know it. - $50 tickets. And I was like, 55. Like, I don't know who this is. But I got to be more than her. But yeah, that's sold out. And then I'm doing that some fucking thing in Canada. Part of that, a great outdoors fast. - Oh, that's fun. - Which is, it's always fun. But they're always like, it's gonna be you, Sarah Silverman, Chris Rock and Bill Burren. I'm like, awesome. And then they announce it. And it's like, Jessel Nick, Pete Davidson, like Jordan Jensen. And I'm like, what happened to the other people that I had bailed? - Yeah, but not that'll be fun. And then I'm gonna announce the theater tour in June. And do every other weekend theaters. And I'm gonna do a thing where I like, I go to the city and I can enjoy the city. You're like, I'll go to Minneapolis and see how many shows I can do in that theater and just hang out. Instead of like, you get there, you go to the hotel, you shower, you go to the show. Next morning, like you're flying and I'm just, I wanna try to just chill it out. - Yeah, yeah. - And to your plunge room, I mean, I hopefully will do a tour bus for as long as I can physically, but I just like waking up and getting a day in the city. - It kills your private margin. Would you ever do the private? - I've done, doing the time I take a private is if, is if it's like, I've got to fly to a city that day and I've got to take a connecting flight. You know what, it's like, it's not that far. It's like just far enough not to drive. - Right. - But it's gonna be like six hours and I'm like, give me, I'll pay the 10 grand for a private jet. But that's like my limit. It's like one hour in the air on a private jet just to cut that out. But I hate that expense. I mean, the thing is, let me go by myself and meet the opener there. I'm tired of having the team. I had the tour manager and the opener and the photographer and I was like, I feel like I'm like hosting a party. - It's too much. - That I just wanna like get off the plane, walk to my car and then have everybody meet me there. - I agree. These entourage people, I don't get it. It's a lot of work. - It's a lot of work. - 'Cause you gotta save that for the stage. All that socializing. Do you watch specials still? - No. - I watch it occasionally. I'll watch something. Rarely I go to sea shows. I went in soccer Roy Scoville's new hour. Right before he taped it, I think he's like the best one working right now. - So funny. - 'Cause a lot of people, like you just, you get to a level and then you kind of coasting. You're hanging on to what you have and it's great. But Roy just like has been stepping up that I really love. I love Silly, you know? - Yeah. - I don't wanna see some homes like, I'm dark. You'd love it. No, I wouldn't. That's what I do. But I really love Rory. He's like what, I used to talk up. I came live and playing on his am right now. He's the biggest comic in the world. Nate Bergazzi. I talked about Nate Bergazzi so much. - It depends. - And now I think it's like, I think he's like, he's like, now he's at the top where it's like, it's a little bit less silly. That he's just like the establishment now. - Right. - The Rory I think is the new Nate. Nate was like a secret. - Yes. - When you saw him, you were just like blown away by it that I think that's, I think that's Rory now. - He's claiming to take a break now, Nate. He's talking about stepping back a little bit. - He's building Christian amusement parks, you know? - He's Willy Wonka. - Yeah. - He has a couple guys, Rory, Sean Patton, Sam Talat, like.
I feel like almost a screen doesn't show how they're magic. You got to see him a lot. - I like Sam Talon's book. That was a really good book. - Great book. - I spoke about stand-up that I've always liked to do. - I really, really liked to do it. - I love about stand-up. And I'm getting it advanced. Copy of this new one's about a hit, man. I can't fucking wait. - Yeah. - It's awesome. - Awesome guy too. - I got the book. - I got turning Stone Casino in Verona, New York, June 6th. Then I'm doing Europe. So it's another fart mark. - Sir, I'm trying to keep that with me. - Then I'm doing Lisbon, Athens, Budapest, Zagreb, Vienna, Warsaw, Helsinki, Sweden, and Copenhagen. I'll add some other stuff when I have more material, but yeah, special hopefully coming out around then we'll say so. - Back in the clubs, we're adding shows. I'm doing those four o'clock Saturdays. Those will sneak up on you. Milwaukee, Philly, Irvine, Tempe, Detroit area, Mark Ridley, Solerides. Emerald City, you'll never have you done that one? Seattle. Emerald City, I've never done it either. I'm nervous. Side split is in Tampa, Cubs in San Fran, and Houston, and Nashville. Come on out, get some bodega cat. We were drinking it last night, I'm hurting, and yeah, check out Anthony on the road. - All right. And join my book club. - Book club, that's the important thing. Just only book club, put your email address in or just go to YouTube and check it out, but it's doing well. - Peter's and I just picked up Stoner. We'll let you know, I'm pumped to read it. - Please. - Does Millenia have a book club as well? - Kind of. - Uh oh. - Millenia, and I wish everyone would have a book club. People are like, are you guys competitive? It's like not at all. But Millenia's just like, here's three books I'm reading, and then that's it. - Yeah. - I'm like, I have like an I talk for an hour about the book. You can email me, I answer questions about the book. I like really want to get people to read and love reading as much as I do. - Hell yeah. - All right, thanks folks. We'll see you all in hell. Praise Allah. ♪ Sunday's the day for my next spenders ♪ ♪ I bet a peaver wreck you know the few Jews close ♪ ♪ I've had a little too much burden ♪ ♪ And Norman's talking shit about the fucking post ♪ ♪ And I get down in the same way ♪ ♪ Up on the roof like a cop's coming ♪ ♪ And they could send you well as feeling dangerous ♪ ♪ I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans ♪ ♪ This woman doesn't look like I remember ♪ ♪ And I get down in the same way ♪ ♪ We might be true ♪
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