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- Hey, buddy. - Hey, Suvi, how are you? - I'm good, how are you? - I'm good. - There's a family trip afoot in our family, but it's not either of us. - No, I know, the videos are great. - Yeah. - Dad's sending a lot of content. Dad is sending videos like he's a tick tocker who is making travel content. - Yeah, they're currently in Morocco. - Yep. - Yeah, Yari and Herrier and Morocco. And the videos are like, it's always the two of them, kind of their heads together. - Yep. - And he sings a song. It's a very sort of a mumble song about where they are and what they're doing. I do applaud them because he's doing it at a volume that wouldn't disturb anyone else that was walking by. - It does seem to be disturbing mom a little. - It does. Mom looks a little bit like a hostage in these videos. - I feel like it seems like she got cast in an ultra low budge sag picture and she's sort of a meryl streak and she's wondering, wait, how did I end up here? How did I end up here? - She's not happy with her. - This agent is what you're saying. - Yeah. - She's very much like-- - We'll also have to be dead. - Right, so-- - How should not I have had to agree to this? And yeah, so you know, just shout out to mom who's got to get out. I don't know how much of a choice she's getting. But yeah, I'm very excited. I almost feel like we should just have 'em on the pod to talk to them about. I mean, they're on such an adventure right now. - Yeah, I mean, they're gonna be there. They're going to Gibraltar. They're going somewhere else in Morocco and then I feel like they're going to Spain, Portugal, they're doing it up. - They're doing it up. They're living their life. And God bless them, very happy for them. I'm, by the time you listen to this, I will have done a stand-up in Denver and Albuquerque. Gonna drive from Denver to Albuquerque. I think I've told you that. It's like a six-hour drive. Google Maps did it real quick. And it's like-- Three, it's like, hey, it's either left, middle, right. Okay, yeah, like three. And so I say to my in-laws, 'cause I assume they're from Albuquerque. They've maybe done that drive. I go, "Hey, which one of these is the prettiest?" And Tom says, "Well, I think there's just one way to go." And I'm like, "No, there's three." (laughing) And he's like, "I've only heard about the one." I'm like, "Nevermind." Like, immediately, I'm like, "I want to talk to him." I don't want to talk about it anymore. And then he's like, "Oh, I can ask around." I'm like, "Don't ask around." Like, I'm just like, "I thought you knew." And now it's it. And so then, also, he puts his daughter, he puts a lexie on this text chain. He literally sends, he goes, "I asked around." And he sent me like directions. Like, literally at some point, it's like, "Turn right." I'm like, "I'm not gonna read." (laughing) When you see, and it's like, also, I think he wrote it for like, it's like a three-day vacation. It's like, then you can stop here. There's a really beautiful bike. It's just, which was the prettiest drive? - Yeah. - And nevermind. - Yeah. With that said, I think I'm gonna ask him to go to Santa Fe and put our name into the restaurant. - Like an hour before we get there, so I don't wanna be too hard on him. - Oh, that's right, they're there. They're back there. - Yeah, they're there. So they'll come to the show. - Okay, you're gonna see all of them. - I, you know, I really stepped on a rake and booked this, yeah, in a stand-up gig. - At a bad time. - Right before Mother's Day, yeah. But it's, I think we're gonna survive. We're gonna survive it. - Speaking of Mother's, we made an error on a previous episode. We were just talking, I just, I think it was me. And just out of hand, I said, "Marblehead, New Hampshire." - Oh. - And you didn't correct me. I think that's how it went. And we were just, yeah. So of course, Marblehead is Massachusetts. Have you been seeing the Marblehead content that's been out in the world this week? - No. - Genuine, it's really great. There's, I guess it's about affordable housing in Marblehead and a law has passed that they have to build it. And there's been, it's like kind of tearing the town part a little bit. But it went viral 'cause there's just like a fucking fantastic Boston guy at the town meeting who's like, I guess my question here is, I would just kind of be in Pricks. And it's really, he's just really great 'cause he's very, he's very sweet, but then he also has that, you know, very authentic New England thing. And yeah, I highly recommend watching it. - Yeah. It's also good policy to consider sometimes your stance on public issues. - Yeah. - You know, I just maybe ask yourself that. Like, are we, are we just, - Are we being pricks? - Are we being pricks? - Well, he then didn't interview where. And again, I would, you know, you and I were lucky enough to go to that incredibly beautiful city. And this point is like, we're the luckiest people in the world that we get to live here. So let's not be pricks about it. - Yeah. - It's kind of like, it's a very densely, it's like one of the most densely populated towns. Yeah, I think that's one of the issues with housing. But I don't wanna speak as an expert on the issue 'cause I really just watched the Pricks clip. - Yeah. - I also, yeah, I'm just gonna say that I know it's in Massachusetts and it was our failing. And when mom hears that episode, she's gonna, she's gonna bump for her. - Yeah. - Probably not as much as it'll bum her out that she has to do like 12 more song videos. (laughing) - With that. - The songs are like, they're death describing where they are. And he's kind of mumbles singing and then mom kind of like, joins him like she's trying to say the same words he's saying, but she doesn't know what he's about to say. - Yeah. - Is that thing of like when you're talking and someone just starts doing the same words you to annoy you. - Yeah. - Like, we're in Morocco and we're at a market and they have rugs and they have all textiles. - And he's just, yeah. - Yeah. - And she's supposed to be going like, - And it's hard. - 'Cause she's gotta sing along with them. And also, you know, it's hard to focus when you've got like the butt end of a snub nose, you know, pistol in your back. (laughing) - Do the video, do the video for the boys. - We'll have to play. We'll cut together a highlight of all their hit songs. - Yeah, we might have to get approval from moms, from mom. - And her agent. - Her agent's gonna sign off on it. - How was her agent? - Her agent's already ditter-dirty by booking her on this gig. - Yeah, so I'm trying to think of what else is going on. I might have some interesting travel coming up that I'm excited to share. - Oh yeah. - But I'm gonna wait, I do too. - That's great. - That's good, that's good for us. That's good for staying very much on theme with the pod. You know what, it's interesting when we have this podcast. I just did a pre-interview for something and they were like, "If you had to go on a family trip "with these eight people, what were. " I'm like, oh right, now that I have a family trip podcast, I have to be like, I can't be like, what? (laughing) - I don't know. I don't know. Don't ask me that question. - Who do you think I am? - Oh, the host of Family Trips, right, right, right, right. - Awesome, well, this is a very fun episode, and a conical, she's the best. - Yeah. - Enjoy it. - You know from Penn 15. - Yep. - And she's got a great push. - She really knew some of the scene. - Yeah. - Highly recommend. Thanks for listening, everybody. Love you, Pashy. - Love you too, Suvi. ♪ Family trips with the modest brothers ♪ ♪ Family trips with the modest brothers ♪ ♪ Here we go ♪ - Yeah. - Hi. - Hi. - Hi. - Hi, Hannah. - I'm fine, how are you? - Good, it's been a while, it's so lovely to see you. - You too, you, I was just thinking back on, you were Maya and I's first late-night experience. I was so scared. And you were so nice. - I'm so happy. - He is so nice. We do get high-can confirms. Being one of the, being the late-show, you get a lot of first-time talk show guests, and I take that responsibility very seriously. - Oh, well we thank you, made a big difference. - I did not realize that you and Maya is it true that you met in Amsterdam? - We did, we did meet in Amsterdam. It was like an experimental theater workshop for two months and it was great. I did mushrooms for the first time. - Great, that's also a thing we did for the first time. Also in Amsterdam, we did less clowning. - How do you pitch to your parents that you're gonna go for a two-month experimental theater workshop and sell that through? - Had they already written in your eye? - It was a fantastic question. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, the issue really began wanting to go to NYU for theater. And it was super expensive. Lones, we all got a ton of loans. And then I, many of us at Tish figured out how to graduate a semester early. So that helped. But the real clincher, to be honest, was I got one line in a subway commercial. That was a national commercial. - Wow. - Thank you very much. - Do you remember your line? - Sure. - Wait, was that your line? - Yeah, I just did it. Yeah, now. I got it, I got it. I mean, I was thinking like, yeah, that's, that's foot long. - Yeah, it was the kind of flow of the commercial was like a little boy, I'm sure you wanted to know this, being like, can I have, can I go to the park? Can I go bungee jumping and the dad's like, no, no. Can I get honey mustard and pickles? - Sure. - I was a subway artist, the same a jardis as they say. And I made a fair amount of money. And so that's how I got to go to this Amsterdam program, to be honest. - So, how old were you when you got that subway at? - I was, I think I was 19, but I had been auditioning in Boston 'cause we moved, I'm from Vermont originally and we moved to Massachusetts, but yeah, I'd been auditioning in Boston for commercials since I was like 10 and never got one. So the subway commercial was finally, I had earned it at that point. - It's really impressive that you kind of stuck with wanting to be in the performing arts. I always, we don't talk about the 10 year old too, or just met with disappointment for years and years and don't take it as a sign that it's not to be. - Yeah, there aren't a lot of us left, I don't think. You had to be like a certain brand of delusional. - No, it's so funny. - You guys performed, right? - Yeah, but we never auditioned for stuff. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, I'll say I've booked one commercial in my life, and I, you know, I go out from them all the time and you keep, they keep you coming back. I keep you coming back to 200 South Lebray, man, oh man. - Yeah. - Oh, God, that waiting room. - Yeah, that, I will say like there's an interesting thing of like being in a commercial, 'cause again, I auditioned for commercials, I'm not saying I didn't, when I was in Chicago, like in my improv days, but like being in a commercial waiting room, you look around and you're like, "Oh, they could really, this could just be any of us." - Yeah. - Like when you go to an audition for like a role in a TV show or a play, you're like, "One of us will be better than the others," but this is just like, this just might be about our face. - Yeah, there's also more opportunity for scamming. Like my dad was living in Florida, and he was probably in his 60s at this point, and he called me one day, he had like a really deep voice and always wanted to be on the radio and wasn't, and was like, "I got scouted today." This person said that I would be, you know, amazing and Walmart commercials and it cost $8,000, and I just remember being so upset. - Yeah, it is also that you are in the awful position of having to tell your dad, you actually would not be good in a Walmart commercial. There's two things. One, they would not tell you in whatever parking lot this person found you. - Also to be Typecast, just in Walmart commercials. - Yeah, that's what you'd be good for. - You'd be good for Walmart spots. Did you do something to that person? - So what year did you go to, at what year in college did you do your Amsterdam trip? - It was my junior year of college, and I had started in freshman year, I had been in the musical theater program, and very straight-laced, and the rumor about the experimental theater kids was that they were all like naked and having orgies all the time. And I was like, I will not waste my parents money doing that. And eventually I realized that was the place for me, and they weren't having orgies as far as I knew that I wasn't invited. But we actually knew the program was great. - Yeah, like we feel like the orgies are like capacity. - I like the idea that it's orgies. Also like this big multiple plural or something. - That's the official term. - That's more than one orgy, orgies. - Yeah, orgies. I wasn't a part of any of the orgies, but they're still time. - So you're Vermont, we're New Hampshire boys, so we obviously got a lot of love from Vermont. Where's Randolph Vermont? - Randolph is not too far from Montpelier. That's where I was born, but I lived in Montpelier before. - Gotcha. - We moved to Massachusetts. Did you spend much time in Vermont? - Did you guys ever do? - No, we had that round ski. - We would ski, but I went a lot, that's true. - Yeah, and my wife went to UVM, so I went to Burlington just once with her, but it was like a fourth of July, maybe about 10 years ago now. And it was great. I couldn't believe I had never been there. It's so beautiful, it's so amazing. And like our grandmother lived in Marblehead closer to where you would end up. And so we just sort of went there. Like we were always going to the Massachusetts coast. - To Massachusetts, that's interesting. Do you think that it was sort of New Hampshire versus Vermont? I felt like that sometimes, that you had to kind of choose. - I certainly don't know if you had to choose, but I was made to feel as though we were the dirt baggy of the two options. - Well, that's not what I was gonna say. - Well, that's what I wanted to say. I didn't think that that was where you were heading, but I do want to say that that was the way other people from Vermont, not you. - Right, not me, I would never. I mean, I remember a bare rescue. Like we would go to Concord, Vermont, and there was a bare rescue nearby. And I mean, sorry, Concord, New Hampshire. - Okay, when you said you were going to a bare rescue, I thought that's what everybody does when they have to like rescue a bear. Like I don't know why I thought, but like I was like, we all, it was like they, the sheriff rounded up a posse. There was a bear who was losing its grip on the side of a branch. (laughing) - Yeah. Do you guys ever go to the bare rescue? - No. - It's not like a bear. - I mean, we went to Clark's trained bears, but I don't think that was a bare rescue. That was a bear's being exploited for entertainment purposes. That was like a bear riding a bicycle and drinking a beer, that kind of stuff. Is that where you were going? - I don't think so. I just remember outdoor cages. - Okay. - And like feeding them little bear pellets. - I don't recall. I would have been into that, I think. - Okay. - I think that the Clark's trained bears people probably went to the bare rescue and that's where they got bears that they were going to. Later exploiting. - They were like, do you have any of the ride bikes? - Yeah. (laughing) - Wait, were they really riding bikes? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Oh. - Yeah. - And they were like changed. Like on a chain call, like a changed leash. - Oh, that's a thing. - They were within a caged area. They were the biggest bears. Oh god. - Oh. - Do you remember them being chained, Posh? - I don't know. I think they probably were. Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember any human. So maybe it was a fully run bear operation. Yeah, and maybe they-- - You mean, everything, like did a bear take tickets? Do you remember that? - I don't recall. I don't remember any people. All I remember is the bears. I just remember putting my money on the table and a POS lighting back. (laughing) - With two tickets. - Hey, we're gonna take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. - Support comes from Article. Hey, Boschie. - Hey, Sufi. - You know what, makes a home feel like a home. - What's that? - Furniture. - Oh, yeah. - Gotta have as otherwise just empty rooms and a bunch of stuff stacked up on the floor. The great thing about Article is they provide curated collections for every style. We're talking mid-century modern coastal, Scandi, inspired pieces. 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I like to say it and I never want to try to spell it. Fair, fair. A lot of people pronounce it "skituate." Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, are those people wrong? No, no, you're right. Situate is correct. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Situate was an interest. It was like a big change going from hippie Montpelier-Vermont, Burlington, another shout out to UVM to South Shore. Like Irish Catholic wasp, as you know, is visiting Massachusetts a lot. Yeah. And how old were you when you made the, when you made the move to situate? I was seven and yeah, almost eight and, but all our family friends sort of remained. That was like our social circle still in Vermont. So we went, our main vacations actually were going camping every summer for a week with like 10 other families in Vermont or going to my grandparents retirement community in Fort Lauderdale. All right. So which, as a kid, which did you look forward to more? Camping. Yeah. Which sounds mean to my, my grandparents. No, I think it makes you a more interesting kid. No shade to your grandparents or any grandparents for it. But I think a kid who prefers camping over because I think, I know, I think there's some kids are like, oh my god, they got had a soda machine. Right. They were shuffleboard. But like camping is what you want your kids to want to do. Yeah. And my grandparents were the type, maybe, being East Coasters, it was the same where like kids are meant to be seen and not hurt. Yes. That was certainly I feel like our grandparents were like that a little bit, but our parents weren't. No, parents know. Yeah. But, but my grandparents and camping was amazing because it was on a lake and there was, it wasn't full blown camping. It was like there was a snack bar by the lake and so you guys still showers. Yeah. I did get my, I got and it was in slushy form. Oh, there you go. A coke slushy by the lake. There's nothing. And would you go to the same place every year with the same 10 families? Yeah. And they've been doing it for 40 years. And now it's kind of set up as like a little commune where there's a huge kind of event 10 in the middle. That's a kitchen and has like 10 picnic tables. I mean, it's kind of crazy. How do these families stay friends for 40 years? It's unheard of. It is. I mean, really mostly seeing each other during that week in the summer. So not like you're right. No time for feuds to percolate if you don't see each other the other 51 weeks of the year. Although I will say in the zoom out of growing up and because as a kid, you're just like, oh, everyone's the same. There's no issues. I mean, everyone's still quite close, but like I have since learned that the adult certain adult started businesses together. Oh, right. And that started and ended. And so there it is. It is actually quite impressive, but from my standpoint, yeah, we didn't we weren't we weren't around enough to get infused. I wonder if you're like one of the 10 families and you hear that like two or three of the other families are going into business together, you must be like, dude, we got a good thing going here. Just go start your businesses with somebody. We don't spend our one week together. Right, that we don't need this time with. I mean, there were a lot of, yeah, a lot of hippies, a lot of crystals and energy work and people who shouldn't be doing chiropractic work because they're not certified doing that on the grass to each other. Do you, were you, did you sort of look at scants at that sort of stuff as a kid like the crystal hippie thing or were you kind of bought in? It at the time it embarrassed me certainly and moving to Massachusetts, you know, where I started to realize how weird it was. Yeah, and that it freaked my friends out when they came over that my mom would be like, Oh, you hurt your ankle? Come here. And then, you know, kind of float her hands over my friends' ankle and then they would leave their Catholic. They're like, this is wrong. Yeah. And then do you feel like could you hear them telling their friends about it in a boss in accent? Like the fact that your mom, you know, really rock on my fucking ankle. Really? They just stop talking to you. So you actually don't hear hear the accent. But I didn't really start like fun long vacations until or out, you know, out of that little pocket until after college, after Amsterdam, young adult world, then I started like more travel. Did you, how did those 10 families select themselves? Were they just sort of like friends in Vermont? Yeah, they as far as I understand it, it started with three families. One of them being my parents and it just sort of organically grew to around 10 and sometimes it's 11 or nine or whatever, but it's been quite consistent and people just block out the same week every year in their calendar. And you still do it. Yeah. Amazing. And how many people, how many kids were there that would like your age that you've grown up with now? But they're probably eight. Wow. And now we have kids and they all are, you know, getting to have this, it's and it's very, it's not changed much, which is pretty amazing to have in the world. I'm just bracing myself for one year for it to be completely different, but it's pretty, it's pretty special and my, our daughter is getting this really neat experience because we live in LA. And so, yes, you know, the first time we went, I think she was one and she just, we weren't like, don't cross the street. Don't go that. You know, we were just, she was just running in the grass and it kind of broke my heart how novel that was. So how is she old enough now to look forward to it? She is. Yeah, she, she loves it. Although we almost ruined the experience because one year, one of the first years we went, there was a big thunderstorm, which they're always is. And I was sort of on my high horse about it because my partner who's from Malibu was very nervous about the thunderstorms. And I was like, this is just how camping is like, it's fine. You just stay in your tent or your RV or whatever and you're all good. Well, the, the like pavilion event tent that all the families had invested in. It, it, it was the, the thunder and the lightning and the rain started and then it started to hail. And then there was a mini tornado. And it lifted the tent up like the huge event tent. And it was like war. I mean, people, my mom was singing to make her daughter not sad and crying, rain, rain, go away. And she, our daughter had PTSD truly for she'd hear a fan. She'd hear Oh, my God. It ruined the rest of our east coast vacation. And for actually a year or so after that loud sounds like the toilet flushing, like we're not, we're not a go. She was back. She's like, I'm back in the pavilion. Yeah. Yeah. I was. Nana screamed in my face. - Non-professionals trying to keep a tarp from blowing away is pure like Benny Hill comedy. (laughing) Also like a movie about a natural disaster sort of storm coming through. An older woman singing rain, rain, go away. - It feels like it's in the trailer. - Yeah. - Very much, yeah. (laughing) - So true. - So true. - Were you all sleeping in tents or are there cabins on this property? - There are a lot of tents. I have, I'm one of the sheepish ones that uses an RV now, which I said I would never do when I was younger, but to fly across the country and then to set up our tent hasn't, we tried that, it didn't work. So it's embarrassing. We get like an RV delivered to the site. And I'm sure all of the fermenters are like, we totally support you and are so judging, but they haven't sent anything. - Did you send them an email in advance to be like just in case you were worried I have changed? (laughing) - Basically what has changed me. - Basically, basically. 'Cause we also like the first one I ordered was too long. So that was embarrassing. They're like it's 32 feet. Like I think you can only fit 22 feet. I'm like absolutely, we don't need the second living room. - That's great. - Is it a star wagon? - We're not gonna have people over. We're not gonna have the tent people over. We don't need the second living room. - Yeah, I did. We bought actually our own star wagon and just been traveling with that. We leave it on the east coast and-- - It's also not even like they're like, we will be sleeping in RV, they're like, oh my God, you guys brought, you bought an RV? It's like, no, we have it delivered. We have it delivered. - The RV people will deliver it. Feel free to talk to them, obviously don't talk to us, but feel free to communicate with our RV team. - It is embarrassing. - Are there like game days or they're organized events at this summer, at this week long, get away? - To our credit, they're not organized events. It's very much like, and maybe the other reason it works is because people kind of do their own thing during the day. It's like, who wants to hike, who wants to bike? I'm gonna go to the lake, don't talk to me. I'm gonna meditate. Like, it's pretty, it's pretty foundry'd. But then everyone comes together for dinners and each family takes, is this interesting? I don't even know. - Yes, yes. - Okay. - This is Josh's dream comes true. - I doubt it. - Like no granular trip details is everyone's job. - Okay, that's all I do. - It's all of the devils in the details, Sufi. - Yeah, I'm with you. - Okay, well, and then each family takes a night on the, now it's a Google Doc, before it was probably memory. Of who cooks that night and they cook for everybody. - Wow. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And so what, I mean, what is your full number if it's 10 family? Are you cooking for 30, 40 people? - Yeah. - What is something you've cooked? - And there are allergies. - Ooh. One year we did, as an adult, we did pasta and meatballs. - Yeah. - With garlic bread, that, it was hard. - Yeah. - Wouldn't recommend it. Did it from scratch, not a great idea. A really good one are taco bowls. - Okay. - Yeah. - And just doing the individual ingredients. - And then, right, let people do the construction themselves. - Built it. - Yeah. - You know. - I mean, you were a sandwich artist. You know how it goes. That's nice to be able to start, move down. - Sprinkle the lettuce. - Here, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna ask you a question and then give your answer from the subway ad. - So I'm sorry, are we just supposed to put these together ourselves? - Sure. (laughs) - Yeah. - It's old. (laughs) - Yeah, I'll be fired, 'cause you're definitely not allowed over the counter, but, sure. - And how does Malibu Alex look forward to the trip now? Is he, does his, is he bought in? - He is fully bought in. - Oh, that's great. - And he's like very, his hippie comes out. Like, he's suddenly a communal liver. Yeah, he's, he's in. He's a part of the little, the little mini cult we got going on. - I've had to, in what seems like a similar way to Alex, like I've had to buy into my wife's past, a lot more than she said to buy into mine. - Which is? - Just like, you know, she grew up going to Martha's Vineyard and she has this group of friends. And she's now like, they're like 40 years deep. And so I'm spending a lot of time talking to husbands who also have not had four decades of the majesty of their memory. - That's hard. - Yeah. - It's okay. - And fun. I'm sure. But that's different to have to like make up for 40 years. - We're kind of all connect over how funny it is that they think they're living, they live the most interesting childhood. (laughing) - Because it's a lot of talk in the past. - Oh, they're, oh my God. It's all, it's all remember, remember this peer. - But Seth doesn't rent an RV. He just built a house next door to his mother-in-law, father-in-law's house. - Oh, that's beautiful. - Yeah. - It is beautiful. - It is very beautiful. Last, you know what, it wasn't beautiful. The gun to my head. (laughing) - To build it? - Yeah. - Yeah. I mean, I've been advocating over here too to do a little cabin in Vermont. One day. - One day. - One day. - So I know this from, you know, obviously Penn 15, an incredible show that was very autobiographical. And now you have a memoir where you talk about your family. And I want to get to, your parents, but your parents got divorced when you were a teenager. So logistically, who got the weak on the camping trip? Like I'm assuming both your parents didn't come. - That's a great question. Yeah, my dad bowed out. - Yeah. - And other, there was like, I think one other family who got a divorce, and they split the week. - Interesting. - And I was pretty, it was sort of a turning point in my life. And I think brought on some angsty emo things when he was like, no, I'm not going. I'm not going. And there was this idea in his head that they had taken my mother's side. - Yes, well, I couldn't see that at that seed planting. - Especially if you knew my dad, yeah. There's a lot of, yeah, everything was very black and white, but he, and the saddest part, it was that it was more, camping to me was more him than my mom. Where he taught me to fish, he had the canoe. He made the pancakes in the morning. And then, yeah, and for a while, camping became sad 'cause my mom would be like, I guess I'm alone here and everyone else has a family. - As a husband, and then we're fucking setting up the tents ourselves and it kind of blew for a bit. - That is, yeah, so in a perfect world, you would have liked them to split the week as well. - That would have been nice. Yeah, but you know, we did split, and I have a funny vacation memory was our house. We split the house for two years while they waited for the judge to make a decision of who is going to get the house. - Oh my God. So what was the, was there like a condo? Did they also like split another location? - Well, for the, I mean, outwork. - Like for the two years, so they stayed in the house. - Sorry, sorry, yes. - They didn't split time. They split the house. - Wow. - These with the house, yeah, and I have this memory. So like we always, you know, went to Vermont or went to Florida for our vacations. Suddenly, my dad and mom decided to divorce, really, my mom. And my dad is like, honey, we're going on a carnival crew to the Bahamas, just me and him. - Okay. - And so, and I was thrilled, but I felt really guilty like saying good, the act of like packing and saying goodbye to your mom who's staying in snowy Massachusetts. Well, you do work with the Bahamas. Was a real moment. - Yeah. - Yeah. - How was that carnival cruise? - I mean, it was amazing. My dad didn't make me wear sunscreen. I thought I was going to get tan for the first time. - Did you actually get tan? Or do you tan up well? - Well, turns out no. - Yeah. - I got, yeah, I wore oil, three SPF. - You and Josh have a very similar palette. And I know from vacations of Josh. - I have to say, I notice coming, like Seth, you're so tan. - Yeah, I tan, I tan up, I tan right up. - Wow, that's such a nice thing to have. Josh and I for all our similarities have incredibly divergent skin pigments once they run in contact with the sun. - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah. - I got another Mose surgery coming for this little thing. Oh my God. - Wait, what surgery? - Mose, it's skin cancer stuff, it's Brad. - Oh no, I'm sorry. - It'll be like my third. And then look at the old olive boy down there. It's just like, yeah, you walk around, not walking in the work, but your next one's free. Which one is free? - The fifth one. - You're 10th, you're 10th. You got to get to 10th. - Are you serious? - No, which is not. - Oh my God, I'm so earnest. - Did you, he is, he is, he is getting a surgery. That part was real. It's just not free. - But the 10th one is-- - Yeah, not free. - You do have to pay for this. - This is not free. - Oh my God. - Maybe it will be. I don't know. I hope to never get there. You mentioned you were excited for a car. Do you think you were excited just based on carnival crews marketing and seeing commercials for carnival cruises? Like, when I think back, that was a commercial you saw all the time growing up. It was like cruise commercials. I mean, yeah. And part of it was truly like the opportunity to be hot. Like, to get a tan in my mind was like to come back and be hot and cool. Like the girls that went to the Bahamas. Yeah, right. But yeah, I got a horrible horrible sunburn. Like my eyes puffed out, puffed out where they go under. And I was sick for like two days. I think that is a very, I mean, New England or anywhere, you know, I'm sure like the upper Midwest is the same way where you would go on vacations. And you in your head thought there was going to be this, you know, this reveal when you walked back in that everyone was going to sort of take stock of how your appearance had changed based on your one week. And it felt as though you could completely recreate yourself and sort of change whatever the sort of conventional wisdom was about you based on one week. You'd be like, I'm coming back with a new hard rock t-shirt. I'm coming back with a solitaire. Puka shells and a solitary one. We're going to turn this thing around. That was poetry to me. Yes. Was your dad, you know, on a cruise? Was he a good hang with just father daughter? Yeah, because he let he was okay if like I sat on the other side of the beach. You know, he understood that I was trying to forge, you know, teenager dumb on the cruise. And he was, there were casinos. So he was good. Right. I was like, you know, there's a teen club that was fine for me to go to. It was real like freedom, you know. Yeah. And how old were you for that to go to that? It was 14. Wow. A teen club at 14. That just seems like. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But you're there on your own. So you, this is dependent upon you to like meet people and make friends. Well, that's the thing as an only child. I have a half brother, but 11 years older, same mom, and so really grew up as an only child. And you just learn to be, you know, really embarrassing. And sometimes, and you have to be willing to be humiliated over and over if you're going to make friends. And knowing, oh, I'm guessing I'm doing thumbs up. You've done that. Sorry. By the way, up perfect. While you were saying like being an only child, you have to be embarrassing. You accidentally just thumbed up yourself. Fucking classic. This is just hard for the course. That's literally like you met, like you met somebody at a teen club and you said something funny and then you said, good one. Wait, did you just say good one to yourself? You're like, I'm a only child, man. So yeah, that's how you find your person, your people. Right. Because most of them are like, okay. And then every once in a while, someone laughs with you and you're like, all right. Were you, were you and Maya, had you known each other at NYU before you, like, were an Amsterdam? No, we didn't. We, I just remember there were like 25 of us. A few of us ended up kind of working in comedy as adults unexpectedly, even though it was a very kind of serious program. But yeah, I saw her do all these really great characters and was and so talented. And I had more of a talent crush and was like, oh, she's so cool and good and, oh, whatever. And then, yeah, we slowly became friends. More so after Amsterdam, we both were going through kind of breakups at the same time. So there were a lot of like sleepovers. And yeah, ice cream, stuff like that. I mean, it's an incredible, uh, your collaboration. It's, it's very nice of whatever, I don't know, events had to line up to put you guys together is really cool. Oh, thank you. Yeah, she's, she's awesome. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from Quince. What's up, poshy? Hey, Sufi. You know, it's, uh, it's a nice time. I feel like when the seasons change, it's going to update the old wardrobe. Yeah, you know, agreed to, uh, uh, think about things are getting warmer. I'd like to, I'd like to wear some fabrics that, uh, feel easy, comfortable, but also a little put together. And that's where, uh, Quince has been my go to elevated fabrics, fits her clean. Everything works without needing to overthink it. Yeah, Quince has all the wardrobe staples for spring. 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See website for full details, restrictions and important safety information. Individual results may vary based on studies of topical and oral, manoxidil and finestered. What was, I mean, it's not really a family vacation, but when you're over an Amsterdam, you know, you're studying, you're going to school, but what is what was your going out scene like or what, what did you do to take advantage of Amsterdam? I remember the going out being forced. We were staying in dorms in Amsterdam and so most of it, we were like theater nerds. We're during the day. We're like just studying the craft. And then at night, smoking a ton of weed together and eating strupe waffle and it wasn't, we weren't like, we were cool. Yeah, I think we're all getting that. I think that's good. There's a lot of like, there's a lot of great strange theater in Amsterdam. Would you go check that out? Would you? Yes, actually. We did, we saw an experimental. I don't know the name of the company, but theater company. And I remember like bringing it back to the bears. There was a dancing bear. Okay, was it dog jam? And some naked people. Was it dog troop? I don't know. I'm going to have to. Yeah. Perhaps. So, so how did you see theater in Amsterdam? Yeah, I was going to Amsterdam. We lived at work for a theater called Boom Chicago over in Amsterdam. So we lived there. I was there for three and a half years. And Seth was there for like two. And I just did that. I just did the funniest thing where I was like, I wonder if when you were in college, we were, and then I remembered, I just glance to your birthday and I'm like, nope. Not even close. Need to work on my skincare. Not even close. I don't even know why I thought that based on my age that you would be. No, fair, fair, fair. And this clown school was for eight year olds. Clown, good. The clown school's coming forward. Did you guys go to Vondel Park? Yeah. Yeah, very much so. Love that park. That's where I did mushrooms. Where was it? Where your dorms near there? Prince and Grock, near the, um, and Frank Museum. I mean, that's not a bad location at all. You're central. No, it was incredible. It was, it was, it was amazing. It was really the bikes and the, I would love to live there again. We went back for a friend's 25th wedding anniversary last summer. And it was just so wonderful to be back. It's like, it's all this My son, my parents came, my wife came, her mother came, there were like a lot of people who used to work there, brought their kids. It was great. Yeah, very, very cool and special. - What did your son think of it? - He loved it. He really loved it, but again, you'll find this thing whereas they don't, you don't realize how much they loved it till they get home and you overhear them talking to somebody else about it. It's like they can't process how much you need them, which is healthy. Like they don't realize how much you need them to be like, "Dad, this meant the world to be dead." - I'm changed, Dad. - And I know you hear some shit from the outside, outside world, but you're good at this. You're a good dad. - Yeah, oh. - Toon out the noise, old man. You're good at this. - It's crazy how much my daughter has traveled compared to when I left the kind and leave the country until, yeah, 20 years, something, and my dad really barely, he went to the Bahamas, but he always wanted to go to Europe. I still feel guilty that he never did that and I went, but anyway, that's a different. - Well, I mean, I do want to talk about, I mean, I read the excerpt in New York Magazine of your memoir, "The Same One." It's beautifully written and it's very funny, but you wrote this memoir about coming of age and your parents divorced and you had an estrangement with your dad that you're the end of his life. Is it rekindled to say if enough word? I haven't read the whole book, so okay. - No, yeah, we got, yeah, and I got to be his caregiver for supposed to be one to five years, I ended up being two months. But, yeah, it was, he was like a very, very funny, outrageous person, hippie to his core, but who turned human resource manager for 7/11 with the bitterness just gonna grow over time. (laughing) Yeah, he just, he was really my best friend as a kid and looked up to him as many of us do our dads more than anyone. And then kind of a slow burn to estrangement in my mid 20s soon after Amsterdam, actually. And, and really like, you know, there's the normal sort of parent falling off a pedestal that was there, but it was also turned up. And, and yeah, we happened to exchange letters at the end of the five years and kind of meant things, but that was a lucky surprise and that it was very soon after that he got diagnosed with cancer. - Yeah. - So it's a real upper, it actually is funny. - Yeah, where it is, but it's sad too. - Even in the chapter I read, where, you know, obviously, especially for the child in the situation, it's a complicated relationship, but you're very, I don't know, you're very honest about how funny they are. And I think that's like a nice thing to, you know, remind ourselves or not forget that like even in like times that I can't even imagine how hard it was for you, but it does seem like there was an ability to laugh and your dad was very capable of making you do that. - Yeah, thank you. I think that's true and both my parents are such characters and they always were, sometimes when I wish they weren't, I was like, can you guys be quiet and can we just fit in better in Massachusetts? Like you moved us here. - They're like, you know what? - I did so funny to go from like hippie from outwear, everything's okay, they're like, you know what, let's turn up the level of difficulty. Let's go to the most judgmental place in America. - Exactly, that we can't really afford. Now we'll live paycheck to paycheck, you know? Yeah, there was this idea of nuclear America that I think, you know, white picket fence that was in the back of their head, specifically my mom, I think that, you know, you do it for your kids. - Yeah. - So they get a good education and whatever, but in the, in the track of that, there was the sort of losing themselves, I think. But there's a lot of humor in it, so sign me up. - How was it, was it hard to write or did it come, was it a, was it a story that was like, so much a part of your life that it came out easily? - There are parts that that kind of flowed, but it took me four years. - Yeah. - When I first kind of wrote the outline in some chapters and, you know, pitched it, I was six months pregnant. And then after having our daughter, I had the feeling of, never mind, I haven't, new feeling. - Yeah, let's start this. Let's, yeah, why did I, great. The contract just closed. Perfect. Yeah, but it ended up being what my therapist said. It would be, she was like, it's gonna be cathartic. And I was like, no, it's not gonna be cathartic. This torture, why am I doing this? But it ended up being a really neat journey. There were a lot of kind of, there were parts that were obvious. And then there were this, there was a sussing out of, well, how did I get from A to B? How did we get from a strange to talking again? That kind of, yeah, it made obvious, emotional, positive thing, emotionally positive things that weren't before. And it was, it was nice actually. - I feel like that's like a lot of people, myself included who are so far past deadlines of when a book is due, that like, like when I started, I was six months pregnant. And when I finished my daughter was the copy editor. - Basically, yeah, they proofread it for me. And that's, that was the timeline of it. - I remember people saying it, you know, my editor specifically was like, I could take you, you know, five years and I was like, no, yeah. So naive, yeah, took me really long. - Right now Seth is thinking about telling his people that he's pregnant and that's why it's taking him so long. - Well, no one can tell you you're not. - I don't mean to like diminish it at all, but I'm actually thinking like, what if Dad and I got estranged right now? - No, no, diminish, please. - And then I call my editor, I'm like, something just happened that I feel like we should wait it out. I feel like it's gonna be good for the book. - Yeah. - Oh my God, that's really funny. - Are you writing a memoir? - I am and it's so, it's so arduous. - It's so awful. - It's so arduous. I mean, you know. - Yeah, it sucks. Are you enjoying any of it? - You know, it is that the catharsis comes like when you're done. I've always said like the thing about the only thing that's good about writing is being done with it, you know? And then feeling like so much of a sense of accomplishment. So like when a good section is done, I'm like that was worth all of it. Let's try to remember that as we go through this next section and then you just like, fuck it, that's fucking sucks. (laughing) - Can I ask you at it as you go or do you like just get it something out and a full sweep and then go back? - Full sweep it. And then I, so I, and then I got like my first pat. I kind of had this sense of like if I got a first draft and like my excellent editor would then send me notes and like I would feel reinvigorated and not yet. (laughing) - Okay. - I'm gonna write a response to his. I'm just waiting for his to come out. And I'm gonna be like, no, Josh is gonna write it. - Didn't happen. - Yeah. - My mom said that too. She was like, Alex and I guess we'll write a response memoir. - Alex is my partner. - How was your mom with knowing you were gonna write a book like this? - Well, she was incredibly supportive but we'll always, we'll keep saying I'm gonna move out of the universe. That's fine, I'm just gonna move out of the universe. (laughing) - She was sort of my childhood enemy I would say. Now we're good, but it is big of her to be supportive 'cause it's hard and she's like, but it's your art. - It's your art. - That is the funniest, mom thing. It's your art. I'll just move out of the universe. - Yes, it's your art. - Yeah, exactly. - Totally. - If you're looking for me, I'll be one universe over. - Yeah, writing my memoir. In fact, I called her the other day we were chatting and said, what did you do today? And she was like writing. - Great. - I said poetry 'cause she has always written poetry and you're like, oh good, you're getting back to poems. They're really good. And she was like, no, true events. - Okay, here we go. - True events is even funnier. - You should try this, Anna. I'm doing true things. I know you were less interested in that with your work, but I'm gonna do true stuff. - You're locked into her. I'm not kidding. That felt and sounded like her. - Congratulations on the same one. - Thank you. - I think I look forward to reading the whole thing, but if anybody wants to get a taste, there's an exceptional excerpt in the New York. I'm sorry, New York Magazine. I'll make sure I get that right. And before we let go, Anna, Josh is gonna hit you with our speed round questions. - Oh, okay. - Here we go. You can only pick one of these. Is your ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational? - Adventurous. - What is your favorite means of transportation? - Train. - If you could take a vacation with any family, alive or dead, real or fictional, other than your own family, what family would you like to take a vacation with? - The Bundes. - Oh my God, for married with children? - Yeah. - Not Ted. - Or not then, not Ted. - If I had to just wash? - I would have to. - Uncle Ted, I think Ted was their uncle. The bunnies is such a fun answer. - I'm just like flying the wall, another dysfunctional memoir. - If you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family, who would it be? - Ooh, uh, my cousin Jesse. - Great. Wait, how Jesse, where does Jesse live now? - She lives near Evanston, Illinois. - Oh, that's where we were born. - Yeah. - I know. - That's great. - I love it. - I love it. - It's fantastic. Give our best to Jesse. - I will. My dad's from Glenn Ellen. - Oh, great. - Illinois, yeah. - Anyway. - Illinois. - What is your dream destination for a family vacation? - India. - Nice. - Okay. Would you consider your hometown situate? - No. - Okay, what's your hometown? - Montpelier, Vermont. - Great. - Okay, if you had to get more families to go visit Montpelier, what would you tell them about the city? - Okay. The cross-country skiing is great. The bookstores, the food, the crepes. Yeah, just to talk to people because they talk back. They're nice. - I forgot his part. - Crepes is a, I would love to, I mean, I'm gonna pass on cross-country skiing, but if you were like, what are we gonna do this afternoon? Somebody said, we're gonna do bookstores and crepes. I'd be like, oh my god. - Well, and my dad, when he went cross-country skiing, he would bring a little thing of scotch and put it in snow and fresh snow and make little. So that, if you added that, would that be fun? - That's great. That helps a lot. - Okay. - That helps a lot. - Okay, great. - Are you surprised sometimes as a parent, like how things that you hope are gonna take more of the day up, don't take any time at all. Like sometimes I'm like, I'll say to my kids, like, let's go to the bookstore and then it's literally like five minutes later, like, we gotta get out of the bookstore. - Every day. - It's, you can't believe it. Oh, Josh, I've talked about this, but I took my son to the aquarium and I was like, in my youth, I remember the aquarium being like a whole day. - Yeah. - And then it's Boston? - Yeah, the Boston Ending New England aquariums, great aquarium, but like at 45 minutes, you're like, I think we're done. - Well, I went last year not to shit on the aquarium there, but it was packed. - Yeah. - I was getting like, and the maze, it's like beautiful, the cave vibe that kind of - Yeah, you walk up a circle, it's gorgeous, yeah. - It's gorgeous, it was the acoustics. Like I felt so old, I couldn't hear anything, I couldn't find my daughter, I was freaking out. - Yeah, there were a lot of teens, it felt like teens on dates at the New England aquarium. - And field trips, I think that was the issue. - Yeah. - Fuck the field trips. - They're field trips. (laughing) - But a little bit, maybe space amount. - Got real, I took a real hard stance late in the pod. - I don't know. (laughing) - Space amount, maybe not fuck field trips, but space amount, make some room to walk, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - Don't send all the kids on the same day. - No, on the same day, that's not right. I think of the penguins. Is that the note we're gonna end on that so sad? - No, no, no, because Seth has two final questions. Well, I think I'll say there was a thing where you could put your hand in the water and stingrays. You could pet a stingray. But you had to like, my boys are so excited and they like put their hands in water. And there was like a lady who worked for the aquarium who was kind of like holding the microphone. She was like honest, she had a real Mark Marin pose where she was like sitting on a rock with a microphone like through her groundwork. She's like, and remember, this is gonna require a lot of patience. Like my boys just like, why watch them both take their hands out of the water? Just like they're like, fuck, we're not waiting. If we get to pet a stingray, great. But if we got to wait for a stingray to rub its back against my hand, I'm out of here. - Is that 'cause of the internet? - I think it's more just how my boys are wired. I think in like, yeah, I think in like 1950, they also wouldn't wait around. - Also only one of those boys you were with who was your boy, Souf. - Oh, that's true. You're right. It was my son and my friend and his friend. - But they're all real. - All right, here we go, last question. Have you been to the Grand Canyon? - Yes. - Was it worth it? - Yeah. - Great. Did you go, when did you go? - We stayed at a lodge. - Okay. - We stayed at one of the national lodges there. That was really cool. - Was this with Alex or with a, great. - Yeah. - You guys seem like good. I will say, I think couples that go to the Grand Canyon together, I think it was a very good sign. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Are the couples that go to the Grand Canyon together are meant to be together? - Yeah, great. - This is my hard take that I've never had before, but I'm gonna now establish on the pod. - Yeah, if you don't go to the Grand Canyon together, like it's not gonna last. - I think you can, it can last without going. I just think, no. - If you're going, look, I think what Anna's saying is two things. One, if you don't go to the Grand Canyon with your spouse, you're living a lie and two fuckfields. (laughing) - To the aquarium. (laughing) - It's so great to see you. - You too. Thank you so much for having me. - Congrats on the bus. - Thank you. - Our pleasure. (upbeat music) (soft guitar music) ♪ Every summer up in Vermont ♪ ♪ Ten families camp for a week ♪ ♪ Some like to set up their tents ♪ ♪ Anna, Rants, and RV ♪ ♪ The first one was too long ♪ ♪ And the hippies probably talk some smack ♪ ♪ So once you go RV, you'll never go back ♪ ♪ Besides when her daughter first went ♪ ♪ There was a scary thunderstorm ♪ ♪ Hail fell from the sky ♪ ♪ Made her daughter cry ♪ ♪ Tramp lived it up during the storm ♪ ♪ So hard the wind did blow ♪ ♪ Was a man need your name go ♪ (soft guitar music) ♪ Her parents hit a rough patch ♪ ♪ And a new ♪ ♪ They were on the house ♪ ♪ But she saw both of them all the time ♪ ♪ 'Cause they split up ♪ ♪ And they also stood to house ♪ ♪ Her dad bowed out ♪ ♪ Of the camping but one went to break ♪ ♪ Took Anna on a Caribbean getaway ♪ ♪ Born in the sun in the Bahamas ♪ ♪ Carden of our groups with just those two ♪ ♪ Felt bad to leave her cold mama ♪ ♪ Her team club was such a scene ♪ ♪ She didn't wear sunscreen ♪ ♪ No SPF there's nothing worse ♪ ♪ Puffed up under her eyes ♪ ♪ Not great for meeting guys ♪ ♪ Now moms proven out of the universe ♪ ♪ And us in suspense ♪ ♪ To read those true events ♪ (soft guitar music)