The podcast episode revolves around the host's experiences as a father raising a son with special needs, specifically exploring the theme of anger. The host expresses appreciation for the support received and acknowledges the impact of anger on his interactions with his family, especially during challenging situations like his son's meltdowns. Through therapy, the host has been able to address and manage his anger issues effectively, emphasizing the importance of self-regulation and seeking help when needed. Additionally, the host recommends utilizing the "Wheel of Emotions" tool to better understand and navigate complex emotional responses.
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Hi and welcome to the life of Jamie and more podcast. I'm doing this podcast as a dad
about raising my son who has special needs. It has real life challenges for me and while
I want to share mine, I really want to offer space to other dads to do the same. So let's
get into one right now. Hi, welcome back to the second episode of life with Jamie and more.
So I am really excited about this episode. It's been on my mind for or since I basically
since I posted the first episode, but I've been toying with the ideas as to where I go
with the second one. And I'm really excited to see where this one goes. But I want to
thank everyone who's just been so supportive with the first episode. And I'd like to thank
my wife, Johnco, because she was really happy and really thrilled. And she really loved it
as well. And she also there were things in the in the episode that she didn't know about.
And I think that was actually quite special because it was I think she thought she knew
everything. And of course, you don't because she she was in she was in hospital. She was
in the bed. She had had her the C section. I was outside talking to my dad. And he was
just so much going on. So many balls to Joe and so many emotions to kind of process and
get through that. You know, telling her that I was on the phone to my dad outside and you
know, crying and telling him about it was not really high my list of things to be doing.
So here we go. And so she yeah, she really enjoyed it. And I've just had great feedback
from people from all around. Male and female, it's been fantastic, like husbands and wives
and yeah, my parents as well. So it's been it's been fantastic. So thank you, everyone.
And I'll keep doing this. You know, if I can, I'll keep doing this as long as I can do it.
And I would like to have some guests on. I'd like to have guests down the line for people
not just to hear my story, but I think it's so important that we hear stories of other
guys, husbands, fathers, their story about how they get on in this world, how they travel
through this world, their frustrations, their challenges. Those things are so important.
And I think we need to give them space to so that so we can so they can hear them hear
themselves say them as well, because that's really important. And also share if they can
with that with others and help a few others along the way. So this episode is about anger.
And I had been trying to work out what this episode was going to be about. And I was just
I couldn't lock onto something. And I decided I think it was yesterday night or last night.
And I was like, you know what? Now I've got to go with this. I need to go with the anger.
And anger is it's such a like it's such a bad word. It's such a word that we never we
don't have anything positive to relate to anger, right? When someone says their word,
it's like just negative like negativity just fills the room. And I think that what I want
to try and do is I want to talk about how I have dealt with that that whole anger. Now
it's going to be difficult. I'm going to try my best on this. So bear with me. Okay, basically
for a large amount of my life, I was never I never thought I was I never classed myself
as an angry person. Okay, I think people who would know me would agree with that they never
saw me kind of lose my shit and like just fly off the handle and you know, it was generally
that wasn't me. That wasn't me. That was just not who I was. And I was pretty calm. Like,
so what happened? Okay, well, hello, enter Jamie into the scene. And then also a couple
years later, we have Joshua. So what happened? We know that I had the trauma from when Jamie
was born. We know that I know that. And so that's that was simmering there simmering
away under the surface. I piled on work on top of the trauma and the grief. And I never
never really dealt never dealt with that. As we know, I talked I talked about that last
lesson a little bit last lesson, last lesson to today. So I talked about that last time.
And then I realized that I I had become someone who just got really angry. And I what it was
it was such a strange feeling because I had never had these angry feelings before like
this. I got frustrated with things I got first work and things like that before that that's
that was pretty normal, right? But the anger and the anger was something that you know,
would it was like this angry monster like this monster inside of me that would just
come up and it would be there and it would it would raise itself in a way that I was
unable to tame this monster. This monster just would almost rise up and I couldn't I
couldn't control it. I couldn't control this monster. A lot of the time it would just be
like there it was. And a lot of people never saw this. A lot of people never saw this because
you know, I managed to kind of keep that monster away kind of locked away in its little cage.
However, it did actually come out it did come out and it came out in a form that I didn't
even realize that it came out with my wife and she actually she brought my attention to
this. And she said, you, you are you are talking down to me. You are talking down to me and
like, I don't like it. And it's really rude. And I was like, what are you talking about?
And it was what it and she was so right. She was so right about this. I'm going to come
back to that, but she was so right. And what I was doing is I was not I was not able to
control my anger and my frustrations that I had going on. All that grief, all that trauma
was all there pile on that the stress of running the business and no output, no output at
all going on their time. So it was all going in. And and so I would let this let this kind
of anger off at my wife and my in my work. And I just didn't realize until she actually
brought it to my attention and she had to keep reminding me. She had to keep telling
me and saying today you were so rude. I felt I felt like really I can't think the way she
described and it alludes me now how she described it. But I felt like I really had like screwed
up. I really had done something wrong because it was happening again and again. And it was
just and I was I was disrespecting my wife, my lovely wife, who was helping me through
and still helps me through everything. The person who, you know, was riding this going
along this road, our journey with Jamie. She was on that road. And here I was just not
respecting her. And and I think that was that was kind of like I would say like the entry
into and knowing that I had this this kind of anger and this frustration inside of me.
So it was it came out this anger came out. But also that was that and then I had episodes
with the kids. The kids would do something and I would get really angry. I get really
frustrated. I would feel this monster come up. And it was very hard to control this monster.
Oh, my God, it was like, it was like just it overtook everything. And I was I am not
I am not a physical guy. Okay, I am so not a physical guy. I'm like, I remember talking
to I'm talking to my therapist the other day. By the way, we'll come we'll come to therapy
in a minute. Okay, that's also really important. Talking to my therapist the other day, telling
her how I think I actually have a bit of trauma from when I was I think I was in high school,
and I wasn't I wasn't like getting changed for PE. And this guy came over and he started
punching me. And I had never been punched in my life. I'd never had a fight my life never
never created a fight, never nothing. Right. And this guy came over and he started just
punching me. And I don't to this day, I don't know why he did it. And all I did was I just
defend I just defended myself. I just put my hand my kind of elbows up like this. Everyone
just stood around watching him all the all the mates were just watching. And I still
remember to this day. So that actually was actually quite traumatic for me to remember
that episode many years on. And I don't even think my parents even I don't even know. I
don't even tell my parents this. Classic kid just not telling parents everything. Sorry
mom and dad. Anyway, I wasn't hurt. So I was okay. I think it was just it was a traumatic
experience. And I and I've lived been living with that kind of trauma for years. Anyway,
so getting back to the physical. So I've never been physical, right? I've never been a physical
guy. And so my anger would more transcend into what I would say, and how I would talk to
my kids. And it was just like, you know, I would catch the point where I'd catch myself
and I'd be like what am I doing? And I'd have to like stop, you know. And it was there were
moments that were really tough. Because there were moments when Jamie would, he would almost
had go into a fit. I can kind of pick multiple moments of that he would, he would go into
a fit, he would have a meltdown. Could be at home, could be at a restaurant, even there
were loads of those. But anyway, well, he would, if the food was hot, now when I say
pot, I mean, like temperature, he would, he would put it in his mouth and he would just
go absolutely apeshit, he would just, if it wasn't like lukewarm, he couldn't deal with
it. And he would, he wasn't able to the concept of blowing the food and cooling it off. Because
he was so hungry, he would just get straight into it. So he would dive into the food, avoid
any kind of, you know, attempted us to try and help him to stop, slow down, whatever,
he'd dive in, he'd try and touch it to his lip or get in his mouth, and he would just
lose control. He would just lose control. He'd melt down. And I would be, I would get
so angry because, and I knew what was going, I knew what was going to happen as well. Because
he would do a couple, one of two things, he would either just like clear the table, he
would just use his hand, he would scream, he would scream, and then he would use one
of his arms and he would just like almost like a baseball bat, he would just clear the
table in front of him. He would just, that's what he would do. So me or my wife would have
to like either be on our, have reactions, you know, have really quick reactions to grab
his arm. And so you'd grab his arm, and then he would, as you would grab his arm to stop
the food flying off the table, he would, he would then either get his head and he would
bang his head straight down on the table. And I mean, I know it sounds really, it sounds
really intense. And it is, and it was very, very intense. And I'm, I'm able to talk about
it now, because it was things that it, I can, I can work through that. But I, this must,
this, these episodes, I'm pretty sure happened for people out there. And it, it was almost
like a, probably a weekly occurrence for us with, with Feeding Jamie. So I would, I would
get, when these happened, he would, my, this, my lion would just, well, I'm quoting a lion
now, it's gone from a monster to a lion. We're going to call it a lion. This lion would rise
up and it would get there and I would just get so angry because that's like, you know,
because we, I had told him we had helped him try and to cool his foot down and he just hadn't,
he didn't want to know, didn't want to know. It was just hunger was overriding anything.
And then anger overrode his one. And then anger overrode mine.
So it was just really frustrating. It was very frustrating. And as you can imagine,
if you're in a restaurant, in a family restaurant in Japan, and that happens, it, you know, it's,
it's embarrassing. I'm not going to like deny it. It's embarrassing. It's people will look
and hello, I'm a foreigner. And people, so people look even more. They look over and
they're like, what's going on? What's the screaming for? And you just have to, you go
into your world. Basically, we just went into a world and I wouldn't get, I wouldn't lose
my shit in the restaurant. I wouldn't lose my shit. And it was like, it managed to kind
of control my, that monster a bit more, but I would still get angry inside. We're like,
oh, Jesus man, like how many times? But it was just embarrassing. It was like, you know,
hello, here we are. Can't, can't we control our son? Because no, they don't know him,
right? As far as they can see, just some, some kid just having a going ape shit and
just, you know, flicking their food around the restaurant. Um, you know, so it was really
hard. It was really hard. Um, it got better. He got better actually with that. And also,
more importantly for me, um, because I got better. And I got better because, and I got
better after I went to therapy, I started therapy. And I want to talk a little bit about
this because, um, I won't go into the whole, uh, details of it. I think I'll save that
for another spectrum, uh, of, uh, of where we go with this. But I, I got into therapy
and I was, uh, able to talk about a lot of these things. And I was able to talk about
Jamie and the trauma I had with him. Um, and it was very, it was, it was hard. It was really
hard. I remember the first, um, the first therapist I had, um, is I kind of feel bad
for him actually because I think he was very good. And I remember, uh, uh, getting, getting
into it with him. It was an online therapy session. And I remember getting into him and
for about an hour and I was just, I got, I got emotional. I started crying. And then at
the end of it, I, I felt like, okay, this is, this was really weird. This is not what
I thought therapy was. And then for a couple of days, that day and a couple of days after
is that I just, uh, felt like it was not what I, I believed therapy was. Um, and so I was
kind of a bit, you know, I was, I was angry because I was like, that is, everyone talks
about, you know, therapy helping and I don't feel like I've been helped. I feel the total
opposite of being helped here. Um, because I felt like I just felt so drained for like
two days. Um, and so I stopped. I didn't, I didn't do another episode. I didn't do another
session with my therapist. Um, and, and I, you know, it was, I managed to move past this
and I, thanks to, um, my family kind of saying to me, give it another go. I think, I think
you need to don't give up on just this guy. Maybe you didn't connect with this guy. Try
again, get into another one. Um, and so I did and now I am able to, I can feel that, that
monster come up and even today, even today, today, uh, wonderful day actually. Um, but
even today, I had, I was, I had the, the, I had that anger. I had that anger. Jamie
was, um, he was gold actually. He was fantastic. Um, and then I, I think I was tired. I just
got tired. I'm just self analyzing myself now. I was tired. I've been running around
playing with the water guns. I was physically tired and so was he. Um, and I, when I, when
I'm physically tired like that is that I find it difficult to, I find it really difficult
to manage that, that emotional control. And so I was like that today. And I, you know,
he wouldn't do what I wanted them to do in the timeframe that I was giving him. And, and
it was, it was tough. And I, we, we got home and I was just like, I was just, oh, I just,
I know, I just felt like, you know, I just felt pissed off. And I, I know that, you know,
I can't, I can't be angry at him. He, he's tired, but like what I can do is I, again,
I had to just focus on to me. I had to just come back to me and ensure that I was able
to be in that headspace. And so I took 15 minutes away. I said to, I said to my wife,
I said, I'm just going to go down 15 minutes. I'm just going to go lie down 15 minutes.
And I just, and that's what I did. Just lie down on the bed. Um, and I came back and I
was a bit better. Hey, I was, I was a bit more, I did a little bit of kind of breathing
exercises and I came back and I was a little bit better. Um, and so it's, it's a challenge.
Anger is a challenge, but, and of course that anger generally is, or my, my anger generally
is orientated out to, to someone else. Right? My anger and frustration is with generally
targeted outside of me, but what I need to, what I need to do is I need to work on what's
going on inside of me. And that's actually so much more important than the other because
that's how we can control. That's how I can control. That's how I can control my, myself
and therapy has really happened helping me. It's really helping me. It's allowing me to
give me a space where I can talk about issues that come up. It might be really small issues,
but actually they're actually quite important issues and my therapist will listen and my
therapist, she'll also challenge me. She'll kind of just throw me those questions back.
She'll know when's the right time to kind of throw me a question. And I think it's really,
really important to do. Um, I, I am in a, um, you know, I, I know that therapy is expensive
and I'm, I'm very, I am very fortunate that I am in a position to, to do it. Um, and not
everyone is in that position. So it's, it is something which I have to, um, make sure
that I really do, uh, get into, um, and make it work because if I, for me to be the better
person with all this around my family and for me to be able to tackle challenges with
Jamie at work, all these challenges, mental challenges, I, for me to be the best I can
be, I need to be doing, I need to keep doing this, this therapy. Um, uh, it grounds me
and my anger I'm able to control so much more that lion. I'm so much, so much better controlling
that lion and I, what I do is I actually, I, I think what I do, if I can kind of just
self analyze what I do, I actually pull it back into myself. I actually, rather than
looking at the person that's irritating me, I actually bring it back into me and I think
about me and it's, it's actually a really hard thing to do because you've got to think
how am I, I need to look after myself right now. I need to regulate, I've got to try and
regulate my, my inner, my inner monster and it's really hard. It's so hard. Um, so there
we go. I, uh, I hope that, um, this has worked. I actually, uh, have a little thing which I
want to talk about because my, uh, a therapist of mine, uh, uh, told me about this, uh, Wheel
of Emotions. If you Google it, bring up, it's a, uh, thing called Wheel of Emotions and
if you have a look at it, it's really interesting because it has, it works. You start from the
inside and you work out. Okay. So you find your emotion on the inside and then you work
out and it gives you options as to how you really are because sometimes we don't actually,
well a lot of the time, we actually don't know why we are angry, why we are, why we
are happy, why we are sad, why we are, um, you know, all these emotions. We don't actually
really quite know and I've used this and I actually used it today because I was like,
why the hell am I angry? Why the hell am I angry? And what's the kind of, and it was
actually frustration. I built it out to frustration. I was frustrated with Jamie and the frustration
for me was cause I was physically tired. Um, so the Wheel of Names, uh, Wheel of Names,
not the Wheel of Names, the Wheel of Emotions is where you want to be looking at. Um, yeah,
go ahead and check it out. So that is it for today. Um, I hope that it's, it's, I felt
so easy to talk about anger. I thought this was going to be really difficult to talk about.
Uh, I've managed to actually do it and I've managed to hopefully get through what I want
to say. Number two, done. Thank you everyone so much for listening. Uh, please share. We're
on, uh, we're on YouTube as well. We can actually, I'll make, I'll make a, uh, a video
of this. There you go. Um, waving to the video and so it can, you can actually see me. Um,
and uh, yeah, thanks guys. Uh, we'll catch you later for the next one. Number three, take
care. Bye.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast focuses on the challenges of raising a son with special needs.
The host expresses gratitude for the positive feedback received.
The episode delves into the theme of anger and its impact on the host's life and family dynamics.
The host shares personal experiences of struggling with anger, particularly in dealing with his son's meltdowns.
Therapy has helped the host in managing his anger and emotional responses.
The host recommends using the "Wheel of Emotions" tool for understanding and managing emotions.
Summary:
The podcast episode revolves around the host's experiences as a father raising a son with special needs, specifically exploring the theme of anger. The host expresses appreciation for the support received and acknowledges the impact of anger on his interactions with his family, especially during challenging situations like his son's meltdowns. Through therapy, the host has been able to address and manage his anger issues effectively, emphasizing the importance of self-regulation and seeking help when needed.
Additionally, the host recommends utilizing the "Wheel of Emotions" tool to better understand and navigate complex emotional responses.
FAQs
The podcast is about a dad raising a son with special needs and sharing real-life challenges.
The host's wife was happy and thrilled about the first episode and enjoyed it.
The host discussed his struggles with anger, how it emerged in his life, and the impact it had on his relationships.
The host's anger led to difficult moments, especially during episodes with Jamie's meltdowns and frustrations with his son's behavior.
Therapy played a significant role in helping the host acknowledge and control his anger, providing a space to address underlying issues and emotions.
Therapy was described as essential for self-improvement and navigating challenges, emphasizing the need to address internal struggles to better manage external emotions.
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