Angels, Demons, Nephilim & Giants - The Real Story of The Bible | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 282

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Okay, really quick before all this kicks off, thank you first off. Scavlance is freaking crushing. We're at 81% very positive reviews. You all love in the game. I've beat it already. But the sheer amount of updates the team is doing rolling out and implementing new things for the games. We're almost playable. Also send your idea so I can add more quests. Thank you all so much for the amazing response for Scavlance. I just super, super thankful for being able to now be a video game development company. Never would have thought that was a possible thing to say, but here we are. And y'all made it possible. So thank you. If you haven't checked it out, go check out Scavlance. It's on Steam, Scavlance. If I can get a quick shout out to the team. By day two, we had a full patch roll out. And then by day four, and I think by day six, if you read the reviews, a lot of them are, are you guys not sleeping? The dev team is working so freaking hard, which is why we partnered with them. Also show the reviews. If you have been playing in Go Leave a Review, we can't say leave a positive or negative one, but I can say Go Leave a Review. And then you take what you want with that. Love you all, thank you so much. Three, two, one. Is this a surge? More alcoholers are caffeine in it. That is more alcohol, I think. Hey. It's an 8% out of your word. It's disgusting. Surgeons, wrestling. Cody, you ready? Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unscribed Podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tab, Nick, the Fatal Electrician. Nils, our new friend, Brandon Herrera, myself, don't an operator. Thank you so much for being here. See, they were learning about the Bible. Yes. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. All eyes on you. He just came half the class of vacation Bible school flashbacks, like, they were learning about the Bible. We were super stoked for this. We talked about that. He's actually a huge fan of wind again. So that's right. That's really, that makes sense. I do, and I am a Wendigoon enjoyer. Yeah, he's a Wendigoon. My dad sat on his legs. You should tell a story, okay? Brandon, you want to be in frame? It's a good story. Sure story, I don't care. We were there. Oh, well, we came down for one of our range days that we were having first range day. Within our first, initial range day. So we host a range day every year where we bring down our favorite creator, friends, and they have a good time just shooting Brandon's machine guns, because he has one of the rarest collections ever. It's, it's a freaking amazing time. I'd Wendigoon came down, he stayed in my house. And one night he decided he was going to sleep on my couch. And I was like, yeah, dude, like, you know, we'll get your hotel room. He's like, no, no, I'll sleep on the couch. I'll sleep on the couch. It was the first time my father came down, Rick. And we're, we're, we all had a good night before. So we might have had a couple of drinks. And of course, we want to just sleep in a little bit. And I wake up in the morning and hearing, um, oh gosh. It was like saving private Ryan or some shit or band-of-brothers. It was band-of-brothers. My father was playing band-of-brothers at the highest volume it would go on my TV. And so we all wake up like, oh my god. What's happening? What's happening? And I run out and I'm like, Dad, what's, what's the first? This, I'm not telling you about the same problem, right? Anyways, I run out there and I'm like, what's going on? And my father is sitting on Wendigan's legs. And I'm like, Dad, it's like, turn it all down. Everyone's sleeping in the house. He said, that's not my fucking problem. Wait, so while he was sleeping, you were sitting on his legs? Or you knew you were sitting on his legs? My dad, my, yeah, my father was sleeping on Wendigan's legs. Or no, he was sitting on Wendigan's legs. Well, Wendigan was sitting, yeah, sorry. He was sitting on Wendigan's legs. He was like, that's not my fucking problem. The volume's so loud. And I'm like, you turned it up. Wendigan pops up. Like I say, it just pops up like a, and PTSD riddled veteran. Just laughing as I saw. Sweetest kid ever. But then, dude, my favorite part is still. It's a muddy rainy day. Your dad doesn't have shoes or boots for some reason. He finds a brand new unworn pair of women's boots. And he wears them out to the range. Yeah. And via my ex's boots, he just found them in a closet. And he said, these fit me. Dude, brand new, like ruined them outfit. But we go to, we go to brunch that day. And we're like, Dad, you were sitting on Wendigan. And he's, what does he hear? Did he not know? Oh, he knew, okay, he did not give a shit. So Isaiah was just a good sport about the whole thing. He thought it was the funniest shit in the world. He's like, dude, you need to invite your, invite your dad back to all this. Like every time you do one of these, invite him back. Man's a social terrorist. I got to be in the truck when Cody got pulled over with me, John, and Mr. Garrett. Oh, Lord, that was an experience. That was a good time. What happened? Can we tell a story? Yeah, man. We got pulled over. I think it was just speeding or something. I was speeding down. Yeah, just pulled over. So Cody like pulls off the main highway onto like a front end road. And then we pulled into like a parking lot of like a self-storage place. Like just getting the cop off the road. And we're all sitting there quietly. Cody's getting his license or registration. I hand it to him out of the glove box. And it's like, this will be interesting. Pretty good chance we get out of this. What are the odds? I'll recognize Cody. We'll see. So we're all kind of like thinking the same thing quietly. And Mr. Garrett's in the back seat behind me. Turned around looking at the cop and a Middle Eastern law enforcement officer gets out and goes, I hell son he ain't gonna know you are. And he didn't. Cody got a ticket. And then the department reached out to him later. Anyways, Winniegoon says my dad's a social terrorist. With morals. And he is. That's okay, I understand. So this is like normal. Yeah, okay, all right. That's the same range day. All of the ammo and weapons were provided by. At the time it was just me. We didn't really have any sponsors or anything like that. So I was just, you know, this is all our ammo are, you know, our guns, very generous of you. And well, he decided, he was like, son, look at like toward the end. He's like, all the ammo here is just free. So he's shoving it in his pockets for calibers. He doesn't even own, but he stole like two boxes of 4570s. Like you think this will fit my AR-15? Just, you know, it's funny because like I'm walking into like a gun crazed group. And I just shot a gun for like the first time like this year in January. Really? So I'm learning, I'm learning, it was good. I fully autoed an AR-15. Nice. So that was fun. It was like chain down. So it wasn't really that exciting, but I did. Were you in Europe? No, no, I was at a gun range. I've never seen an American range do that. I've never seen that. I've never seen it in Europe. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, they like chain it down. So you could like go full auto in that you wouldn't like shoot someone. Really? I've never seen anything. Even if full auto rental ranges, I've never seen them chain it down. Usually they have like obviously a range safety officer like brought it on top of you making sure that, you know, a lot of stuff has been happening in Minnesota. So I wonder if that's just an extension of that. I don't know. Minnesota has been an interesting place lately. So it has been quite-- Do I have to have moved? Did something happen? No. No, where you're all right? There's no chaos. There's no-- There's a simulation. We had a new flag. A simulation, I think. The understates flag. Yes. There's been a simulation of sorts if you want to call it that. Yeah, Americans are assimilating to their culture. Yes. Yeah, pretty much. There's no fire burned buildings. There's no buildings that are boarded up. It's peaceful. It's great. No fraud either. No fraud. There's no fraud. The only police department surrendered ever in American history. Well, well, there was another. There was there was another. Yeah. The was it the Battle of Athens? I don't know if that counts as a police torment. I was a share of the jail, I guess, so yeah, maybe a sheriff department. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Do you know that story? This is a history and now I'm like, yeah, you're drawing battle of Athens. Go on. Boy, are we doing this? You got to help me fill it in. I'll do. I know. Well, I'll help you fill it in. So basically during World War 2, politically what was going on at the time was they called it machine politics. The democratic party was very, very, very, very powerful and the was it the governor or no, it was the mayor and mayor of Atlanta, not Atlanta. It was Memphis. The mayor of Memphis basically ran in Tennessee everywhere. He determined all the city councils, all the mayor's, all the everything. So like whatever they wanted went and while all the boys were away fighting World War 2, they would basically install sheriffs and the sheriffs at this point in time were basically extorting the local population for money. Like they were pulling people over and it was like pay up and they were keeping the money and they were just abusing the shed out of this local town and there was this Tennessee. Most notably, there were no free elections essentially. So they were, they were in charge of all the ballot counting, everything like that. So if you tried to do anything about it, good luck because the system was kind of controlled. Yeah, like completely rigging elections. Well, all the world were two vets get back in, get back home and a couple of different things happened. Like basically what would happen was when the vets first started showing back up, these corrupt sheriff's deputies knew that these guys had money from coming back home from the war. So they would like basically sit outside bars and wait for them to come out and then charge them with public in talks and give them huge fines and keep all the money. And this devolved into two of these deputies confronting, I believe it was in the Navy and they wound up shooting and killing him. And this pissed off all the rest of the vets came back into town. So they started their own political party to run for mayor or city council. Yeah, I think they were challenging the mayor of that town. Where basically they were just like, no, the way that you're doing this is just we're not going to take this. You guys have been, you know, basically boss hog has been in control while we've been away in Europe fighting. We're not going to let this go. So one of the veterans steps up and says, well, I'm going to run for mayor and had all of his, all of the soldiers were supporting him and a lot of the locals and everything like that. And it became very contentious because the people that controlled the county at the time were obviously not a fan of this plan. And something actually transpired I think when it finally went to, you know, election time when it came to a vote, they were trying to basically stuff the ballot boxes. They were trying to shut down the polling locations early when they weren't supposed to because so many people shut up. So the veterans, it was literally a veterans ticket was running and they were basically running on the platform of like, hey, it's going to be a fair election. We're going to have veterans there poll watching at every location with the deputies and we're going to make sure it's fair. We lose. We lose. That's fine. But we're going to make sure it's a fair election. So like the whole fucking town shows up to vote for the veterans. And the sheriff's are like shutting down polls early. They were, there was an elderly black gentleman that they wouldn't let vote and then beat the shit out of them because they wanted to vote. They did shoot him. They clubbed him and then they shot him and two veterans stepped in to defend him. They beat the shit out of the veterans and had them tied up in that polling location. And after that happened, everything kind of devolved. All the veterans went back to this a local entrepreneur ran a tire shop that they were using as like their campaign headquarters. And they all went back to the campaign headquarters and they're like, they're rigging the election. We can't do anything about it. These are hard veterans too. Yeah, these guys are more or two. They just got they just got back. Not people you piss off. So they, one of them stands up and I can't remember the exact words of the speech, but he gives a speech and it ends with go home, get your guns and meet back here. They go home, get their guns, hunting rifles. Then they go to the national guard armory and they show up and there's like a there's like a fucking supply sergeant there on a GR duty and they roll up and they're like, you can let us in or we're going to get in, which is it. And he basically hands him the keys and looks to another direction. So they go grab fucking Tommy guns, M1 brands, pistols, grenades, unload the armory dynamite dynamite. They didn't get that to later. Oh, sorry, I'm getting ahead. Yeah, so by then the sheriffs have shut down the polling locations early and taken all the ballot boxes into the local jail. So the veterans show up and fucking surround this place with guns and are like turn over the ballot boxes and they're like, no, and it devolves it. They cut the power to the building. It devolves into a firefight. A bunch of the deputies get shot, a couple of veterans get shot. There's pictures. There's veterans up on this like on Main Street where the courthouses. There's veterans in fucking windows above shops on Main Street on the rooftops. They got cars flipped over in this firefight. Editor, put those up because they're fucking gnarly. They go hard. And eventually, eventually they're like, all right, we're going to have to go in there and get them. And one of the veterans works for the DOT and he's like, we got they're just like besieging the courthouses actually. Oh yeah. So they go and get some dynamite out of the DOT shed and blow the front door off the jailhouse. And finally, all the deputies surrender and they take all the deputies out throw them in a fucking jail cell. There's a picture of like 20 of these corrupt deputies inside of a jail cell while they go in there and they count the ballots in front of the whole fucking town because like the whole town's out there watching. Well, in the meantime, I believe that the deputies that were being besieged and all the local leadership called the National Guard because they said we need support. We were being assaulted. There are terrorists here that are trying to kill us. We need help. And so finally, by the time that they showed up, but the National Guard showed up, they were informed of the situation and everybody just kind of went, okay. So nothing happened. Like National Guard, they were expecting National Guard to come up, come in and like arrest them. What was this? The National Guard never actually showed up. Did they not? So what had happened was he put out the call and everybody just kind of went, you're on your fucking own. But the veterans had heard that the call had went out. So they were expecting the National Guard to show up. So one of the veterans had a fucking crop duster. So he was doing hot laps around the entire town on a fucking recon mission. And he was going to report back and they were going to go stop the National Guard initially. But the National Guard never showed up if we're calling this correctly. So I looked Tennessee Governor Jim McCord initially considered activating the National Guard to handle the escalating crisis. But then rescinded the order before troops directly intervened in the firefight. So the order was given, but he's like, nah, let's see how it plays out. Yeah. So then the next morning, they still were under the impression that other law enforcement agencies are something we're going to come do something about it. So a bunch of veterans loaded up in trucks and drove out to the other counties like sheriff department and rolled up with guns and are like, we heard you were going to do something about it. And that shares from I was like, nah. And they're like, cool. And then they left. And then like over the coming days, it just turned into like nothing was going to happen. There was a federal investigation. And the federal investigator tried to prove that they had taken guns from the armory. But the local armory guys like, nah, they're all here and accounted for. There's actually a couple extras. Yeah. So yeah, like they like completely got away with it. Nobody got in trouble. They fixed it. Yeah. 1940. It's like 1946 or 47. It was like right after World War II. Like right after. Poncho makes performance shirts for guys who actually go outside. Look, you can't see my body because camouflage. I'm a floating head and arms. Woo. Probably the best shirt for one. I do. I mean, you already know everyone here at the table wears ponchos. They do feel good and they look good. If you could see this camouflage shirt, you would know it. Look good. It looks good. Now why do we wear poncho? 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That's p-o-n-c-h-o-outdoors.com/unsup. My confusion is, okay, so how much were these World War II veterans paid? Because like if they're like being extorted, just like where they like surely they weren't loaded. How much were they? Where were we paying them? Well, they were getting $100 to $200. What is it? $50 a month. - Well, yeah, he got to realize like the World War II wasn't like a normal deployment like we have today where it's like, okay, you're gonna go over for six or nine months and then you're gonna come back home. It's like there's a lot of dudes that left in 1941 and didn't come home until 1946. And a lot of those dudes saved five, six years worth of wages the entire time. And then you also got separation pay when you got sent out. So I mean, you know, these guys had hundreds of dollars, if not thousands of dollars, which at the time is a lot of money, you know what I mean? And I mean, they're not like extorting them for tens of thousands of dollars, but when you have a thousand young men with cash in their pocket that are all going to bars and you can just bust them all for public intoxes and walk out, they're just basically taking all their money. - Oh, wow, that turned gangster fat. I've never heard that story. - Well, then it inspired like there was like several other almost flare-ups that were very similar. And it's like, in my video, I kind of alluded to the fact that this was like not exclusively the only reason, but this was like a catalyst to accelerating the end of that era of machine politics. - Did you do a video on this? - Yeah. Oh, fuck. - I did one of my best performing videos. - I literally, I didn't know that. I just texted one of my guys and I was like, we should cover the battle of Athens, like a son of a bitch. - Bitcha. - You, yeah, that video performed real well when you put the YouTube title World War II veterans versus corrupt cops. - Very good title. - Very good title. Holy shit, yeah. I, that is the last group of people I'd fuck with or try to extort, 'cause again, it's just, it's just a win. - Yeah, I love this. - It's gonna pop off. - It's like that story and then the Battle of Alcatraz are like some of the funniest fucking stories ever, where it's just dudes that just got back from World War II getting called in to do some hilarious. - And they're, yeah, they didn't have a leash on them during a leash in World War II, but for the most part, they're just out wandering the countryside fighting. What does that mean, like having a leash on them? - Rules of war and there's not a but, there wasn't media or that much media at the time and you're talking about all of Europe and when you have groups of guys, like some of the individuals in NAICS cover, they're landing in the middle, and they're lost or hooking up with different elements. They're not even attached to each other then. - And then stuff happens. - Yeah, hey, we gotta take this bridge or hold this bridge. Okay, well, now we're attached to each other. Okay, make this happen, kind of save it private Ryan. - Okay, so go here, do that. So you don't have those rules of war or I see guidelines. So when you get back, now you have hardened veterans that have just been in a terrible war and they're like, okay, I don't wanna fuck shit up. - Yeah, right, absolutely. - And they had that brotherhood. - Of course. - Those cops stayed home I'm assuming, so none of them were veterans? - Correct. - Yeah, you're gonna have that brotherhood of thousands of people. - Well, a lot of the cops were like, they go more in detail in the video, but a lot of the deputies were like actual criminals. And shit, like people that had been like felony level convictions and stuff that they were just hiring to basically be thugs and extort people. It's nuts. - Nice job real quick. - It's a cool story though, 'cause people talk about like, oh, the Second Amendment, what's it for? Oh, you wanna stand up to tyranny? - Well, when would that ever, it is happening? - It has happened before. There was precedence for this. - National Guard guy, they pulled up. I gave it to you, he was like, he's. Bring them back by 12 the next day, we're going. - I've told this story before. So when I was in the National Guard, Barack Obama was still president and he was coming towards 2016, like when he was leaving office. And at the time, there was a lot of people that were like, he's gonna institute martial law so we can stay in power and that led into the whole Jade Helm thing where a fucking mock annual training mission for the National Guard got leaked in the. - Like every five years, people forget that's a training mission that happens all the time. - Yeah, and they think it's an actual government plan to like take over Houston and Dallas. - They're taking pictures of train yards with military vehicles and combos. And like, it's that in a Robin Sage. - Yeah. - So like forgets that that's just a routine for military exercise. - Yeah, so like, that was going on and I had like actual people I know ask me of like, are you guys really gonna institute martial law? Like, what would you do if they told you to do that? I was like, I'm not, you think I'm gonna hop in a shitty Humvee and drive around town with a megaphone and tell you to go to bed? No. - Fuck me. - You shot. - I'm not about to go. First of all, they're not gonna give me ammunition. Absolutely not. Like, I know. No. - Yeah, no, I mean, we would never see anyone enforce it. Like, you know, for example, COVID restrictions. - I'm from Iowa. - They didn't enforce shit. - I just imagine our homies driving around in the Humvee like this is gay, don't shoot me. I have to be here. - Don't shoot me. - Knock, knock, knock. - Sir, it appears you have no guns. Is that correct? - Okay, that's what I thought. Please tell your neighbors about this interaction before I go over. (laughing) - Dude, really quick, we're gonna talk. Brandon congrats on, I mean, you have now a. - Well, shit, before we get into that, do we wanna talk to our guests? - I know what that's all about. - What the fuck is this guy here? - I'm just scared. - Oh shit, that happens here. - We just invited Niels to not talk. - I'm glad. - Niels and you're delicious. - Niels, where do you watch us? - I wanna know more about your stuff because I'm a terrible podcast host. I really didn't, I looked into your channel a little bit, but I really didn't do a deep dive into a lot of your stuff. - Yeah, so what was it like to know? - Well, for one, how'd you get started? We're back to the game next. (laughing) - See, my grandpa fought in World War II, and there's a crazy story there, and actually. - Ready to go. - No, he actually was a pair of trooper though. I think he was at the Battle of Bulge. - No shit, no shit. - He had a purple heart, he got strapped on, I think, in his knee. He did, he got some, like, award or something, I'm terrible at grandson, but he had some awards, he never really showed it to anyone. He had a medal for being like a top 10 marksman, like he was just like a, I don't remember, there's so much. - Expert marksman, yeah, yeah, he was, so maybe not top 10, but the point is, he was really good, and then I forget the story, I think my grandma knows it, but I should probably talk to her. He did something where he fixed a radio at the last second, and then he saved some people or something like that, so I should probably know the full story. I'm kind of embarrassed that I don't know. - Grandpa's a G. - Yes, biblical marksmanship guy. - Yes, biblical marksmanship. - Okay, let's go on. - Yes. (laughing) - Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all day comfy grip. No tightness, no stickiness, no residue. Just plump, dewy, hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin. Try new groupie setting mist from Mavily New York. - Maybe it's Mavily. - We've had an expert on that on the podcast before. - I'm a sniper. - When confronted with a larger man, shoot his ass. - Shoot him in the head. - Ah, yes, Sunzoo. (laughing) - Sunzoo, shoot him in the head. Yeah. No, so I, you know, I make YouTube videos about the Bible. I am really fascinated with the weird parts. So, angels, demons, fallen angel type stuff, supernatural world. There's a lot of that in Genesis, so that's usually where I spend a decent amount of my time. But outside of that, what I really enjoy is learning the ancient Near Eastern context, because the Bible was written in a particular time period, and a particular people wrote it, and a particular group of people were hearing it. So, in 2026, it's really easy to read this thing, this English translation that we have of the Bible, and kind of like input our modern sort of ideas onto it, and like, oh, what are problems that we care about? In 2026, USA. Oh, I'm gonna read that back into the Bible. In reality, the thing that I find so fascinating about the Bible is scholars have done so much research over the years to be able to make stuff like this decipherable, enable for like your average Christian to be able to understand the context of the Bible, and that's truly where I find the most joy. And quite honestly, that's where you get to a lot of the weird stuff, because their world was just so much different than ours. - All right, so Nephilim, go. - Nephilim. - We will get there. - So, I knew you were thinking in so loud. It came into my brain. - Talking about that, I saw this post like the other day, and I think it's a perfect example, was somebody had taken the lyrics to what's the Smashmouth song from Shrek. - Oh, all star, yeah. - All star. They took the lyrics to All Star by Smashmouth, and translated it into Arabic, and then translated it back to English, completely different song. - Interesting. But that's what happens with having with the Bible. - Dividedly accurate, Shrek. - Yeah, like it's really funny to read, but it's just like, oh, it's crazy how much different. It changed the lyrics of that song just by going to Arabic, and then back to English. It was crazy. - So, what's interesting about the biblical translation of what not, people kind of have this conception that, oh, well, the Bible was written, well, first of all, the Old Testament was written in, it was like 99% Hebrew, it was like 1% Arabic, the New Testament, predominantly in Coyne Greek. But people kind of tend to have this idea that, oh, well, the Bible was translated into Latin, and then it was from Latin into English, from, or sorry, not Latin into like German and then French, and then eventually we get the King James Bible, and then we get the English translations, but in reality, what happened is we have manuscripts dating back to the original Hebrew and the original Greek, so our English translations today are based off manuscripts that go back directly to the original language. So people kind of tend to think that it went from English to another language and then, or sorry, from like Hebrew and then to a different language and then to English and reality, all the translations come from, "We have the Hebrew" and then we translate it directly to whatever that would be the equivalent. - So it's not like the Chinese telephone people are thinking it is? - No, no, no, absolutely not. - And you're even, I think the word for God or even, what was the word you were talking about earlier? - Elohim. - Elohim, like, that has different meanings just depending on. - Yes. - That's what's crazy to me. - That's the dice. - It means so many different things and then mankind's just like, well, this is my interpretation of them. - Yeah, so essentially, the Bible is, well, I'm full disclosure, Protestant. I mean, I love my Catholic and orthodox brothers, but we have a little bit different of a canon and there's like a whole history going into that. But the Sotheses were involved. - Yes, yes, 95 of them to be exact. Martin Luther. But anyways. - He wrote a couple of books. - Yeah, I wanted to. - I gave one to Connor one time. - Yeah, in the civil rights, he had a dream. - That was hard to track down. - Martin Luther was the first thing he, on the Catholic church door, he was like, I have a dream that you guys need to stop selling indulgences. But so the Bible that we have today, the Protestant canon is 66 bucks, 39 in the Old Testament, 27 in the New Testament. Like I said, Old Testament written in Hebrew. And then that got done at around like, let's just call it 500 BC. And then there was like this four, 500 years of silence they call it. And then that's when the New Testament came around like, I think 52 AD is like the earliest thing we have. Jesus died around 33. I think 52 AD was the first that we get of like Paul's letter. So anyways, you have the story, or like the grand story of the Bible, and then we can get into all the nitty gritty things that are really fun to talk about, is really what it comes down to is God wanted a family. That's like the ultimate story of the Bible in Genesis 1 when God created everything. It says in the book of Job, which is another book in the Old Testament that the sons of God and the morning stars were there shouting for joy with him when God created the heavens in the earth. So before God created the world, he already had the supernatural world with him. And we'll be talking a lot about the supernatural world and angels and demons and all that. And then over the, you know, of course, God plants a garden in Eden. He creates Adam and Eve. They function as his priests on earth, so to speak. And then the serpent in Genesis 3 obviously comes up and screws the pooch a little bit, creates rebellion, sin enters the world, and then through that sin, a strange bit from God happens between humanity and God. And then the whole rest of the Old Testament is the story, or I guess the Bible should say. The whole rest of the story is God preparing the way for Jesus to be born, you know, and I think it was like four BC, it's not actually zero AD, 'cause like some Catholic monks somewhere like screwed up the chronology or something. And then the story of the Old Testament is, of course, Jesus comes. He lives a perfect life, or lives a perfect life. Lives a life we could not live, or dies the death that we should have died, pays the penalty first and on the cross. Three days later, he rises from the dead and then that restores our relationship to him. And then the whole point of the Bible pretty much is just like filling in that story. 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What you guys were speaking about, I'm kind of familiar with that. - Yeah, so a lot of people, a lot of Christians have been kinda, like, not even necessarily taught, 'cause a lot of people don't really even talk about this word, but Elohim, E-L-O-H-I-M, is a Hebrew word that gets translated God. G-O-D, okay? Very simple. Now, that word is used over 2,000 times in the Old Testament to refer to the God of the Bible, Yahweh. The God of the Bible, Yahweh. That's what Elohim is normally referred to in it. And when it says in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the earth. Well, the word Elohim is also used for nearly half a dozen things in the Bible that aren't the God of the Bible. And that's where we get the word God. So then what's going on here? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. So scholars like Michael Heiser have pointed out in his book, The Unseen Roman, what not. Like, when we use the term God in our modern, this is where we get to this whole modern context versus the ancient context. When the Hebrew writer was using the term Elohim, when we think of the word God in our modern context, we, like, if I were to just think of God, immediately I'm thinking about something whose omniscient, whose omnipotent, whose all powerful, who like creates things, who has creative ship and stuff like that, but the ancient reader didn't view the word that way. Because the other times that the word Elohim gets used in the Bible is referred to the sons of God, the disembodied dead, it's used for angels, it's used for demons, it's the same word God, but they just view the word God differently. So the Bible is monotheistic in the sense that Yahweh is the Old Testament calls them the most high, but the Bible also acknowledges the existence of other Elohim, which Michael Heiser has pointed out that Elohim, really, what that word means is a spiritual being. So for example, in Psalm 82, it says, God has taken his place in the divine assembly. In the midst of the God's, he holds judgment. So you have God, Elohim, stands in the council. That's Yahweh. Same word Elohim. - So it's kind of like every parallelogram, or every square is a parallelogram, but not every parallelogram. - Exactly, so Yahweh is an Elohim, but no other Elohim are Yahweh. So you get to the weird stuff when you start to figure it in, who are these other Elohim, or who are these gods of the Bible. Now, what's interesting is that the term Elohim is kind of like our word sheep. Like if you see a singular sheep, the grammar, the way that we structure our sentences, we say that is a sheep right there. But if you say, look at all those sheep, we know that it's plural. Elohim works the same way. The context determines how many gods are here. - Well, that's helpful. - Yeah, so, well, it's actually really interesting is because the grammar in that phrase is, God takes this place in the divine council that the Hebrew grammar there is singular. It says, in the midst, you can't be in the midst of one. So God is in the midst of other gods, or Elohim that he's passing judgment on. And then that gets you into the story of Genesis because when God created everything, like I said, the sons of God were there, which is where this term, "Benei Elohim comes from." So there were other supernatural beings that were when God created everything. And then out of that, you get to the first rebellion, which was God planning the garden in Eden. He had Adam and Eve there. And then the serpent comes up and he's just like, "Hey, we're gonna make things." Or God's, he's actually like hiding things from you. He essentially convinces Adam and Eve to rebel against God. God told them to do one thing. He's just like, "Don't eat from the street." And then the serpent came and went and did that. And then fast forward a couple chapters later, they're in the Genesis 6 where you get to the Nephilimangle. But I'll come back there. Fast forward from there, you get to the Genesis 11 part, which is, you saw my video on the Tower of Babel. So that passage that I just told you about in so many two is really important when it comes to this. Because later in that chapter, it says that God is judging these other Elohim, these other gods for ruling unjustly. Okay, and there's only one time in the Bible where God or where other nations were ruled by other gods, or at least there's one story on how that came to be. And that was the Tower of Babel story. 'Cause what happened is humanity came together. And they were like, all right, well, we're gonna build the Tower that reaches the heavens, which the Hebrew, it's not like they're not actually building a tower like that's like going up to the sky. What they were actually building was, it was called like a ziggurat. So if you think of ancient Mesopotamia, it was like a temple complex. Yeah, it sounds like it should be. slur. I used to go out. See, it just, it sounds bad. I don't know who would be toured, but you read the user agreement is what this is like, you know, way more about the Bible than even I'm like, hang, okay, you have this. Well, right. And also, let me know because sometimes I can tend to like assume that certain people know, no, no thing. So if at any point you just like need me to stop being, stop it, explain something. Yeah. I'm glad for the audience to say, like, what, well, when you do that, you're like, okay, so Tower Babel, because you threw that out there, I was just about to ask you to kind of break that down a little bit and you immediately went into it. Okay, perfect. It's, I think a lot of people even at the table, it's like, you think, okay, one God, the, just even for the monotheism. Yeah, like you're, and that's about it. You have people that yes and go to church, you'll have like the priest or the pastor break down certain segments, but for the most part, you're, they're not digging this deep into it. Right. No, at least because a lot of it like, and in, like modern churches, especially, and again, especially Protestant churches, I'm Protestant too, but like, yeah, yeah, the, the smoke machines and electric guitar get a little old. They, like, it's, it's, it's just still down to like the lowest common denominator a lot of times, which is understandable because you're trying to appeal to the masses, but that's always been, I guess, one of my issues with a lot of churches is like, I understand the purpose of that, but I like it when people dig a little bit deeper because that's the interesting part to me. And I mean, in a pastor's job at the end of the day, like you said, like, you have people who are atheists in the congregation, you have people who have been Christians for, for 40 years. So it's just like, how are you talking about like things? Like, so that everyone can like, leave and sort of understand, like, because if you're talking over 80% of people's heads, like, are you really doing your job? Right. But going back to, I think I know what a ziggurat is. So I'm going to tell you what I think it is. Correct me when I'm wrong. Yes. Not if when. But like, the notion is still people think the tower of babbles, like, they're trying to build a tower to reach up into the clouds where they think the gods are. That's not what it is. So ziggurat is like, kind of like what the conspiracy theorists think like the Egyptian pyramids are. Yeah, more like it's some special thing in a special location that somehow channels power that allows them to access the spiritual dimension. That's what a ziggurat is. Yeah. So, okay. So like the, the ancient, the Hadron Collette, the ancient, like, Babylonian equivalent of what the, of what the pyramids would be. Okay. If you go and even, like, look at Machu Picchu and those places, like, the, all of these temples sort of function at the same way. The idea was, the reason that you built a ziggurat is because it was part of a temple complex. And the idea of a temple is, well, you know, so I have to think about every, every, everything in the world that these people were living in back then, everything was tied to deity. Everything was related to the gods. If your crops grew, great. The, the, the gods favored you. If your firstborn died, that's, you know, unlucky. And so why, why they would build ziggurats is to locate the deity. Whatever deity they were trying to worship or barter with or whatever the idea was, you build a home for it. And then it takes up residents into the home. And then that's why all these, like, ancient, you know, the Babylonians, the Sumerians, they all had patron deity. So we think about the, the Greek pantheon, how, like, you go across Greece, like, here we worship Aphrodite, here we worship Zeus, here we worship Apollo, you know, stuff like that. It was, it's really humanity's been doing like the same stuff, even, even in the, the ancient world. Because that's something that I know, like Jordan Peterson's talked about a little bit. And like, a lot of his religious series and things like that is like that. If we're extrapolating it out, like early on, it's like the personification of things, like the personification of the sun, the personification of water and things like that. So we're going around trying to build bird houses, what do you, what do you do? Lobsters? Lobsters. So we're trying to build bird houses for gods, essentially. More or less. Yeah. Okay. So, okay. So, so basically what we're doing, right? So that's exact. I want to see the birds I'm going to build in a house. Yeah. No, that's, that's, that's, that's literally exactly what humanity was doing. And so what, what, uh, birds don't have a house. That's chaos. That's what the Bible says. Don't know. Yeah. Anyways. That didn't take long. Yeah. Okay. So the, but the point is, uh, so they were building this tower and the, the Bible says that they were trying to make a name for themselves. The Hebrew word for name there is Shem. That's going to come, come, come, come important later. And so what happens, they build this tower and they were essentially trying to get God to be on their own terms. Because that's what you would do. And of course, Yahweh is not going to do that. Like, not living in your bird house. He's like, he's not, he's not living in your bird house. He's much more powerful than that. He's not going to be succumbed to this like tiny, tiny little thing. So he cast a confusion spell. More or less. And so what happened was they all had a unified language. And then at Babel, God was so, uh, God was so fed up with this that he was just like, all right, well, I'm the computer languages. Um, which can't have you idiots conspiring against me. This is annoying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and so, but so when you and your boys are working on a cool science project, and suddenly he starts speaking Mandarin. The fuck did you just say? So God scrambled the languages and going back to this Elohim thing. This is this is where I'm tying in that idea. That's why I talked about it. It's because in Deuteronomy 3289, the Deuteronomy is the fourth book of the Bible. Fifth. Shame on me. Lots of laws. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, uh, that Moses is kind of like sermons and speeches and stuff. But pretty much, um, Deuteronomy 3289 says when, uh, when the most high separated the nations, he separated, separated them according to the number of the sons of God, according to the number of the, the name Elohim. Do you remember in Psalm 82 when I said was God was judging gods for really an unjustly? Where in the Bible did God separate the nations? I don't know. At that time. Power of battle. Yeah. Yeah. So what happened after Babel was God. Okay. So like the, you had the, you had the Neville example. We'll go back and talk about that. But then we have this, another rebel here engine me here. And so God, the God's punishment to them is, okay, you want to, you want to have your own gods? I'm going to pull myself out for a little bit. And, um, at the end of Deuteronomy 3289, it says in Yahweh, the God of the Bible took Israel as his portion. Jacob hit his a lot of heritage. So at that point, Yahweh decided he was going to build up the people of Israel. Um, and then all the other nations were given over to these other gods. So if you think about where all these pantheonic sort of religions kind of came from, it's right there. And so what happened was over time, they started so many to says really an unjustly, um, giving partiality to the wicked, all these things. And at the very end of so many to it says, um, God is going to judge them. And then he's going to, uh, inherit the earth. So from that point on, the whole story of the Bible is Yahweh in Israel versus the pagan nations and the gods. And so what happened then onward is this is going on in the ancient Sumeria. Some people think that the Tower of Babel could have been in Babylon or some scholars think it could have been like an heir do. There's like two cities that that are pretty close by to one another. So anyway, so remember what I told you that they tried to make a shem for themselves. They try to make a name for themselves. Well, in the next chapter, so I was Genesis 11, Genesis 12, God calls this man living in that area whose parents were worshiping pagan gods. And he's just like, Hey, uh, Abram, um, I have a promise for you. I'm going to make your shem your name great. And it's through that lineage that Jesus is eventually, um, going to be coming. So Abraham calls this guy out of ancient Mesopotamia, goes to the land of Canaan, uh, has some problems there. Um, there's a famine. They end up going to Egypt. They get a, they get super wealthy, go, go back up to Canaan and then some stuff happens. And then Isaac has, um, a son. And this is really interesting because right now all, all the other nations are ruled over by hostile gods. Yahweh is putting, or he's going to make Abraham's name great. The only problem is, um, the covenant that, uh, Yahweh gave Abraham was he was going to have his descendants as the number of the sands of the sea and the stars of the sky. So in other words, a lot of descendants were all going to be descendants. We're getting into the Canaan ice and, uh, the way you're talking about the giants right here. We're getting there. Mm hmm. We're getting there. I keep being told this. Yeah. Well, like real quick, while while we're on this, this tangent, I guess, yep. How controversial of an opinion, I guess, is that in the biblical realm, this idea of, I know that there's, uh, in the Bible, like multiple mentions of things like, you know, magic and like different, like technically, like different, uh, elements performing miracles and things like that, but also like this idea that there are confirmed multiple gods, I guess, in the Old Testament. How, how controversial is that? It's, it's, it's not controversial for the ancient Israelites. Okay. Because I mean, biblical scholars, even secular scholars will acknowledge that. Well, I mean, they'll argue that, um, the idea of Christianity sort of like elevated out of polytheism, but that, that comes, that comes from the, so like that's like mainstream, um, you know, as far as I'm aware, but if you talk, I didn't know what the debate was like. Sure. Right. I mean, yeah, I mean, if you, if you talked to Christians today, I mean, a lot of this stuff is like rather new within the last like a hundred years, because in 1928, archaeologists discovered, uh, the city of Ugrit, which was in, you know, the ancient Canaanite city, and in there you get the ugritic material, the bail cycle, which talks about the divine council, to when the biblical scholars looked at that and said, wait, the Bible has, has this divine council thing that's going on in soulmany too. So what, but, but what the biblical authors did very often is they were obviously living in the ancient world. They, they were exposed to Egyptian mythologies. They were exposed to, to the Canaanite religion. And so they're looking at all this and saying, well, yeah, but like Yahweh supreme over all of them. 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There was already cities or civilizations is that yeah So that's that's more that's more controversial so that so that's get that gets into the idea of like co or Pre-atomism because the local literalism and all that yeah, because if you like if you read Genesis 1 Excluding from Genesis 2 mind you they didn't have chapters back then But if you read Genesis 1 you have Genesis 1 26 let us make man in in our image and then humanity was created in Genesis 1 But you don't get Adam and Eve till Genesis 2 So like how do you sort of reconcile this now the main line position is that well Genesis 1 obviously describes the 7 days of creation Which is way more cooler than what most people think it is They think that Genesis 2 so it does talk about more creation stories But now we're focusing in on exactly like what God was doing during those first seven days. So when God created This the Sun and he created like the the light and then the fish and then the waters in the land that Genesis 2 is kind of like Zooming in on on all of that to where you get Adam and Eve created But if you do take those as separate accounts you have the possibility for humans being around But then God planning the garden in Eden to which he then took Adam and Eve intentionally And created them to be his priests because a lot of the a lot of the language that's used for the garden of Eden is the same language That's used for like the temples that are going to be built or that God is going to instruct them to build later because Eden was God's headquarters on earth People kind of have this idea that the whole world was Eden when God created the world It wasn't Eden was one specific place in God test Adam with Adam and Eve to number one be fruitful and multiply So I've lots of sex and lots of kids based base rad and then and then and then to subdue in rule over creation So his task for them was essentially hey, I created this world for you. This is Eden Go make the rest of the world like Eden. Don't touch my apple tree and do not eat from from the tree of knowledge One rule there's one rule literally a rule and so yeah, I mean that that that Handed her an apple. It's upsetting me used her to get to him many such cases My rib has betrayed me So then like after Abraham is called then you get to like the most a story where They're essentially pretty much enslaved in you actually I'm gonna fit I'm gonna finish why he was talking about Abraham so God gives Abraham this promise You just like you're gonna have to send it so I'm gonna make a nation from you The only problem is his wife can't conceive She's barren But God supernashley opens her room and gives her the ability to to have a kid he has Isaac because how and I know This is an entirely different thing to like her age at the time. Yep Like there's there's biblical cannon. There's also like debate about And I don't know enough about this to be educated and I haven't educated opinion About like the differences in times scale were like I've heard that like they What is considered years in the Bible is actually months in certain regards or whatever which like brings like the people that are living 700 years and things like that to a little bit more of a realistic scale, but I I know nothing about it Yeah, there's there's there's two sort of philosophies when it comes to that the first one you have the load of us who say all right Know what lived 600 or years and with who's it'll have nine hundred sixty nine years There are people who will try to do this and then they'll do like some calculations kind of trying to calculate How old are at this and whatnot, but then you have genuine Christians and genuine scholars who look at these Super long lifespans and notice that wow all of them end with like a two a seven a five or a Something else which is if you have a big enough sample size That's a really like why are you finding that statistically anomalous? Yes, and so like that leads to certain scholars believing that these were like symbolic years So like when the when these patriarchs were living such long lifespans and and that that wasn't That wasn't Different to like ancient Sumeria had the he might have taken the home Conner has a good example about this with ancient Chinese So in like ancient Chinese writings that he I forget his exact example But he said on the podcast before it was like this natural disaster killed 400 million people But in the context of ancient Chinese killed a lot of people 400 million was like saying a fuck ton to us Yeah, that was like their version of a shit ton Yeah, and that's that's a really good example and we'll get there later in the biblical story when Joshua goes up and Kills all the giants in in the land of Canaan. There's there's hyperbolic language Also being used there as well because apparently God tells him to commit genocide and leave no one left standing But that was you know Joshua was a fad. It's really good a giant or NFA items Leave no dog standing Yeah, so anyways God gives Abraham is on Isaac and then he tests Abraham and he's just like hey Go up to this mountain and sacrifices your only son who I said that is gonna be giving you the promise in your inheritance Abraham walks up, which is really interesting how much that actually Is a type or like a biblical typology is like something in the Old Testament or a person or an event or something that foreshadows something in the future So when Abraham went up to go sacrifice his own son. It was very Symbolic of Jesus doing like this exact same thing. So Abraham brings Isaac out there and Right before he's about to sacrifice some God God provides a substitute for him. He he provides a lamb So which I saw me in the other day that was just like imagine two weeks after this Abraham asks Isaac to take a walk just because he wants to take a walk I remember what happened last time You're gonna kill me this time. Yeah, this time I'm going to yeah Just kind of like that's that's kind of an irreparable rift and a relationship between a father and son. Yeah, yeah So after that you know Isaac has Jacob and then Jacob has these 12 sons and they end up becoming the 12 tribes of Israel that eventually they're There's a famine in the land they go to Egypt and then they're they're enslaved by but by the Egyptians and there's they're in sleep for a while This is where like Isaac and Ishmael's yes, yes, this is part of that so then yes, Mell is will it to Islam but Isaac then yeah, so Ishmael was promised that there would be like 72 first 72 version No, he was promised like King Lee's potential spam and what's she wearing it was promised to me it's promised No, so all all the all the Israelites are in exile. They're being treated by treated by the Pharaoh and So though God raises up Moses and then well actually before then as soon as Jacob has these 12 sons Joseph ends up becoming one of the most famous men in Egypt So he's like the he does a lot of good stuff for the Egypt for Egypt the Pharaoh loves Joseph He's doing a really good job. He leads them through famines He leads them through this stuff but then Joseph ends up dying and then a new Pharaoh comes and then over some time passes and then the new Pharaoh doesn't it says that he didn't He didn't remember Joseph so Joseph was a seabrood guy who did all of these amazing things for Egypt and then a new Pharaoh comes along and says Oh, wow We have a lot of people here now and they're populating very very fast. We need to enslave them Um, and so then they start treating them terribly rocks aren't gonna pile themselves Or yeah, these bricks and then just over time. He's just like hey the amount of bricks that I wanted you to make Okay, well, we're not we're not we're not gonna gather your hay for you now Now you need to go go get gather your own hay so he just progressively just makes it worse It's the most military punishment ever Just you guys are in trouble just make giant piles For generations giant piles You two are under on such a shit list it became one of the wonders of the world That is his military as it gets Yeah, we're taking a hole. I don't know why when do I stop? Thank you, it's a literal biblical punishment. Yeah, the generations is why Yeah, and in 7,000 years people will still remember you fucked up Explain that to your kids as you're having to do it drain them to do the same thing Yeah, you know it was like we have life pretty good In America, okay, there we go. There you go. Yeah, in the U.S. of a baby 1776 So eventually Moses Some Hebrew lady has a baby has Moses She and Pharaoh is just like all right. We're gonna kill all the male firstborns of the Hebrews Because they're they're growing too much and then he was afraid that they were gonna revolt and like you eventually take over Egypt And then so she puts Moses in a in a basket one of the Pharaoh I think it was Pharaoh's daughter or Pharaoh's sister or something like that finds him brings him into the court So Moses the Hebrew baby is being raised in the Egyptian court and Eventually so he's being trained in all the Egyptian stuff so like he knows all their terminology He knows all this but eventually he walks outside and they see is one of his one of his Hebrew people like being beaten by That's Egyptian and so out of rage, which is what happened to Moses a lot. He got very angry I think he just took a rock or I don't remember how he killed him. He just freaking just Destroyed the Egyptian guy antique gun the slave job. Yeah, yeah, antique guns and Pharaoh hears about this and then Moses has to flee and so then he goes and leaves goes somewhere else for like 40 years And then that's when he goes to That's where then God appears to him in in the burning bush And he's just like Moses your people like are enslaved and Moses just like yeah, or my people are enslaved He's just like well I'm gonna raise you up and Moses is making all these excuses on why he shouldn't be doing this because he sucks And he can't speak well and who's gonna listen to him because like they kind of knew him. He was this Egyptian guy Well Hebrew, you know, but he's raising the Egyptian court So it was the purpose of raising him in Egyptian. I mean it's smart I just didn't I didn't even know that like he was raised. Hey bring in this individual race him like The the Pharaoh I'm just gonna say Pharaoh's daughter Pharaoh's daughter sister She I think it was because she just took pity on the baby Because all of like all of them like all their first points were gonna die So Moses was gonna die and so she kind of like if I remember this correctly She kind of like took pity on him brought him into the court and then just through their Moses was just raised there Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting. It's even theirs Meet new grippy setting mist from Mavily, New York Gel to miss technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip No tightness. No stickiness. No residue. Just clump to a hydrated skin. That still feels like your skin Try new grippy setting mist from Mavily, New York Um, but eventually Moses gets this epiphany, you know, he he you know his brother Aaron comes along and then You know him to partner. They they go back to Egypt and eventually they're like all right It's time to leave. So then they all leave Um, this is when God Has the 10 plagues on Egypt if you're if you're familiar with those and it was interesting is every single watched medgy tales But was interesting and not a lot of people know this but like every single one of those plagues that God gave them of like turning the Nylon to blood of You know frog infestations of Larry boy Exactly and then at the very end um, this is hidden different for the vbs kids All of them so this goes back to this thing is like everything was tied to deity every single one of those attacks were attacked specifically on one of the Egyptian deities So like they had the goddess of the Nylon and fertility God turned that the blood they had the goddess of like I think her name is heck it she had like a frog head or something God sent frogs so it's literally mocking their deities Mocking their deities. Yeah, yep absolutely. I never knew that I had the very end of mocking Pharaoh himself Because they believe that you know the their rulers were sort of made in the image of God Which is the complete opposite of what the bible says the bible says that all of us as Humanity are created in God's image to image God to be his representation here on earth All the other religions at the time just thought that that was just for that was just for kings. That was just for the gods. That was just for whatever The differences between those is is really fascinating too eventually um the Egyptian army starts chasing chasing them out of Egypt So then they get to the red sea and then the heroes are just like shoot. We need to run But there's a giant body of water here and then of course God parts the red sea and Then the Israelites go through and then they The Egyptians follow them God collapses the sea on them. 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Thank you to Quo back to the shitty content Well really quick with you have like the Red Sea parting is that You get different versions of that's like oh the time of year is spread apart and it's just took a long time Or it's the literal translation translation of it parted and then crashed on to the sort of yeah, so Your take on so the the term red sea it actually the Hebrew means sea of reads or read sea So a lot of people tend to think that that like this could have been just like some massive body of water But if it was like a sea of reads it usually usually would have been smaller I know some Christians who think that they just experienced something super supernatural, but I mean obviously The Bible says that God was responsible for whatever part of the sea God was responsible for it So if that was the Israelites assuming that it was like a natural thing and then attributing it to God like or God Like sending down air and then and then it was serendipitous. Yes, and therefore God or it was something obviously supernatural Yeah, therefore God yeah, either way it was God was responsible. Yeah, I love how you break it down It is both sides like hey this or this yeah, um, and so We need to go back for a second to genesis 6 So before you get bro No, no This provides this provide no, we're talking about giants, but he's he's when to do but in over here But this provides all the context for the conquest of Canaan, which had to deal with the giants. Yeah So the Israelites Just just going back they send 12 spies to go into the land of Canaan. They're wondering for 40 years They're like, okay, this is the land that God had promised us. We're about to walk in. They send in 12 spies Ten of them come back and are like Shoot, there's giants here and we're like grasshoppers to them And then um then they're like all right. Well, we're not going to go In here because we don't want to fight these giants So that's what I'm going to ed you with and then we're going to go back to Genesis X. I'm so close. Come on. Come back. Only ten of them did that what the other two did they did want to fight the giants? I don't remember I don't remember they were into that shit Well, yeah As we would view as we would view grasshoppers. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Pretty much. So these are the giants and they're hyperbolic But then the question is how do the giants get there And turn Genesis six So Genesis six Says that um, you know, this was in this is in the days of Noah. It said when the sons of God, you know, who they are remember the bineo heem the supernatural beings Saw that the daughters of men were attractive humans Um, yeah, because it was like the Nephilim like spawn of like angels and humans, right? Yep, and so these These rebellious sort of angels what we'll call them even though angel is not the right term which which we'll get into. There's the whole thing on that too. So the these guys rebelled married these human women and then had intercourse with them. I presume because that's probably how it happened. And then their offspring was the Nephilim which is what we you know we now translate translate today as giants. And so what happened was the Bible just tells you that. It says that when the sons of God saw the daughters of mankind, so they were beautiful they had you know had intercourse with them are I have a logistical questions here because we think of angels in the very you know uh cherubum kind of way like angel angel um I like the terrifying ones. That's why the the actual you know the I know it's a meme now the biblically correct or biblically accurate angels how how does that work yeah it's so explained I imagine the photo the birds in the beans on on on contrary those those modern videos unfortunately are not biblically accurate angels. Namely because usually those are representations of cherubum and seraphim which according to the bible in the terms that it uses are not angels. Hold up what that did I just say. Well there's three buckets of terms that are used for angels with just in specifically the ill testament. There are terms that describe what a bean is so like what it is ontologically i.e. ruach which is the Hebrew term for spirit. So you can have spirit beans that's what something is. Elohim is another one of those terms it's what something is it's it's a resident of the supernatural realm. And then the second bucket of terms we have for angels are terms of hierarchy. So sons of God if you think about an ancient sort of kingdom you had the king and then but beneath him who had the most important roles his bureaucracy the sons of God the people who were like closest to him. The third tier you and so so then there's terms for that there's like archangel I'm just thinking back to yeah I'm thinking back to like it was a long time ago but Isaiah did a very good video on like the angel tier list I think. Yes I suppose yeah the iceberg yeah yeah yeah something like that where he explains the the hierarchy of yes the I guess the divine kingdom. And then most importantly this is this is like the the most important thing I'm about to say out and say on angels there's the third category of terms of use for angels that describe function. That is where the term angel lives. An angel according to the Bible is not what something is it's what something does it is a function it is a job description because the Hebrew term Malak gets translated directly as messenger and that's and then in Greek that becomes Angoloi. So an angel according to the Bible is what you know just what something does. So if a supernatural being takes on the form of a messenger then it takes takes on the function of an angel but it's not what something is. Cherubim and serifim are the are in that same bucket or in that same category they're their job descriptions. Serifim and cherubim are usually their function in at least in the in the biblical text is they are sacred thrown guardians that's their function. So that's not ontologically what they are it's what their function is in angels no different. So when we say the word angel we immediately assume that the biblical or those are the biblical accurate sort of angels but the actual Hebrew words that are used for it is much more nuanced and much more different and like you know this goes to our modern world. We just say the word angel and we just mean anything in the supernatural world. Whereas the biblical writers clearly had a much more nuanced much more like in depth layer of like all the different nuances of the spiritual beings. So what were they describing when you have like the eyes or what do you think they were at that point. So the cherubim in specifically I think it's like Ezekiel 28 but mainly in Ezekiel chapter one he's seen like these composite creatures were those four different faces and then they have you know two wings covering their eyes two wings for fly two wings covering their feet same thing with serifim Isaiah chapter six you have Isaiah needs to be purified in order to in order to enter the presence of God and so like this angel the serif takes burning calls and like puts it in his mouth or something like that so so so that he was purified I know it's crazy but by definition if we're just going based off the the biblical terms that the Bible uses they are not classified as angels however if a supernatural being takes on a message because like humans can be called angels too and in the Bible oftentimes angels actually don't appear in that way at all they they appear as humans almost like I think there's like 95% of the time in the Bible when it uses the term angel people are appearing in human flesh and that's where the Nephilim and you're do you think it's those versions of angels well so Nephilim are whole different yeah thing well no but they're the ones that slept with the humans and the the the the sons of God rebel than heaven remember that that like second tier so that's like you have Yahweh at the top you have the sons of God and then you have the angels below him so these these were these are the sons of God who came down so this is your Lucifer but not Lucifer this is a different one if you're talking about the Nephilim the Nephilim were the fallen sons of God who made it with humans and that's where the Nephilim comes from yes yes sir yes so the second tier which Lucifer falls in the second tier correct yeah so Lucifer in Lucifer just gets trans Lucifer is not a personal name for Satan it's just one time he was that name it's just it's just Jerome translated in Latin it just means like mornings or not morning stars you know it's not fallen it means like light or the like the light it has something to do with light yeah yeah yeah but it's not a personal personal name for Satan which that's another it's indeed yeah yeah that's what's crazy that's only mentioned a single time yeah and it's just it's the idea of like oh can God always lives in heaven or what because was it during Satan however it's described it meets with God in heaven right when they discuss Job again now just far off top it will get to the Nephilim but it's one of those questions I've always felt that's a really good segue into talking about the divine counsel which ties into that so many two thing so in Job chapter one you have um you have Satan um appearing to God and it says the other sons of God were among them so God is in this divine assembly he's in this divine counsel so to speak and then Satan comes and shows up you want to know the problem with that in Hebrew the name translated Satan there has a definitive article in front of it so it is not capital S Satan it is ha satan which literally just gets gets translated to the adversary or the accuser because that's what the word Satan means so when you it's like if you say the word Satan you mean adversary or accuser but that Satan in Job one and two has the definitive article it's the same way you're not the Eli and I'm not the nils this is the Satan so even that is not directly personified as the serpent who rebelled in Genesis 3 those are completely separate yeah not the same that there's no direct tie to that directly like that that that was one thing that kind of f***ing me up a little bit years ago and I learned about it is like whoa whoa because like this whole time I thought it was Satan was a kid that's what you're taught exactly like oh this is important yeah yeah like this was just the devil appearing as a snake and it's like there's not saying that wasn't what it was but it is never explicitly stated anywhere well the well the term that the Bible uses in Genesis 3 for we'll just calm we'll just calm Satan just just to make it easy it's not like technically correct but the Hebrew word used for it is nakhash and that is bless you thank you nakhash there you go I'm working on my Hebrew so the way that gets translated in Genesis 3 is it's a triple and tundra in Hebrew it means it kind of has three means at the same time so number one it means serpent number two it means shining one which was just how supernatural beings were kind of viewed like when people looked up into the sky and they saw the stars and thought they were angels they were like oh yeah they're like pretty shiny and the third one is divination or like the diviner someone who like gives sort of like divine sort of knowledge and if you think about that rebel he kind of embodied all three of those things he wasn't a lit like Genesis 3 or like describing the serpent in that way it's not the fact that he was a snake the Bible never says says that he was a snake he was likely or not even likely he was a member of God's divine counsel those sons of God who Ezekiel 28 says one he was like a guardian anointed cherub but he took on the form of nakhash and then that's what he was able to attempt to eat with because he appeared as one of like their own angels that that they would have been familiar with because Eden was like the meeting point meeting point between like heaven and in the rest of the cosmos and so it wouldn't have been weird for them to see this being kind of common but it would have been weird for this being to come and tell them to do something that was contrary to what God had told them to do it's like just a segue on that a little bit real quick it's kind of funny how much of like modern I guess Christian canon that we think of as like fact and something that like okay that's obviously in the Bible because that's what I've seen portrayed in you know paintings and things like that comes from like basically biblical fanfiction like paradise that's exactly what it is yeah like like it's stuff that came a thousand years later 1500 years later that we just kind of adopted into like the slight guise to what Christianity is so you love agreement it's oh I know it check or you hear these stories and then that's what you think like even well it's just like it's same versus this like this is the first time I'm even learning it's like oh no that was ace well it's like paradise loss is basically like it's historical fiction where it's like okay it takes things that are in the Bible and it fills in a bunch of details that are never stated anywhere it's a it's a piece of fiction but it's really really good story though great story I did to to that to our video on it, but it permeated Christian cultures. there's so much that it's kind of become adopted. - Even our view of how it's kind of somewhat filtered from Dante's, from Dante's in Furno. Where were we? - Which we have to be careful about. - I'm still, again, the impence of man, but I guess she is, so what happened to all the other gods from earlier after the Tower of Babel thing? - Yeah, so they were, they were said, put over to rule the nations. So like you have in the books of Daniel, where it says like the Prince of Persia was fighting Michael the Archangel. So it was just like there was like a supernatural of like battle going on. Just like, if you think about these like patron deities that these cultures kind of have, that's kind of what they turned into. - Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting, it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all day comfy grip. Just plump, dewy hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Maybelline, New York. - Maybe it's Maybelline. - Right, what happened after that? 'Cause obviously like those cultures like disappeared or whatever. They're just out there in the ether somewhere or what? - Right, it just turned into different ones because if you think about the Greek gods and the Roman, how the Roman gods came from them. - Okay. - And I mean, what kind of what that Jordan Peterson, you were talking about before about like, cultures kind of like looked at these things and ascribed the deities. So the personification of them. - Okay, so is there a possibility? 'Cause like I'm very fresh to this sort of topic, I guess. Like that, you know, it's somewhat metaphorical in the way that it's like the battling of deities of other cultures or things like. I really don't know. - Well, I mean, I don't know if you can say metaphorical because Paul and the New Testament says we wrestle not against flesh and blood but principalities, powers, thrones, dominions, authorities and all those things. And all the terms that Paul uses there are terms that describe geographical rulership. So there is the sort of sense that there was a literal like, God gave over these nations to be ruled by these lesser Elohim. Otherwise, why would God be judging them? You know, it's so many too, you know. And so like my view of this. - Okay, I guess my thing is like just nations that are like have other other perceived rulers. - Oh, right. - Like that sort of thing. - Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. - And obviously like a very physical like difference like the Greeks believing this, this culture believing this. So like not necessarily the legitimacy of their deities, but the fact that they worshipped them. - Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. - No, but I don't know shit about when it comes to, you know, I'm relatively new on a broader scale. So yeah, no, I'm still learning. - I love dose, I love dose so much. 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But what happened is, and this is where, so we have the biblical canon. - Also real quick, if I can interrupt, sorry, on that note. I answered my own question while I was in the bathroom thinking about it, 'cause I was listening to you guys talk, and my immediate thought went to Sodom and Gomorrah, where like they sent the two angels, and they immediately tried to (beep) them. - Yeah, yep. - Where it's like a physical, like a human embodiment of an angel, it's like, okay, well, if that's on the table, then, okay, that does make sense. - Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. You were talking about in regard to like angels appearing in like human form, is that what you were talking about? - Yes, and specifically like the, I guess the, different class. - The logistics of, you know, how does a angel that is described a certain way of breed with a human, and like that, that was the question that spawned them. - Oh, okay, gotcha. Yeah. So, however, there is a book that isn't in the biblical canon, except for one church, which is the Ethiopian Orthodox church, which is the book of first Enoch. And the book of Enoch is pretty much, an amalgamation of different writings, but more or less, it is a non-canonical book of the Bible that was written between the Old Testament and the New Testament that really expounded on the Genesis 6 story of the Neflin. So, like I said, in Genesis, we get four verses describing how the angels came and had sex with the women and then created the Neflin. All of, pretty much, all of, first Enoch is about expounding on that story. - It's not canon. - It's not canonical. - However, that doesn't mean it's not important. So, we don't believe that it's inspired scripture. - Stupid question. Is that part of the, forget what the Catholic books that are like non-canonical, but-- - You're talking about the catechism? - Apocrypha. - Apocrypha, thank you. - Is that part of that? - Or-- - So, it's a part, the Protestants would call it the apocrypha, but they call it the Deutero canonical, 'cause they actually do think it is canonical, or those types of books were. - Right, 'cause I know you can have those different, like you could have the Bible and then the Bible with the apocrypha texts. So, pretty much what happened was, so in between the Old Testament, you have the Book of Malachi, which is where the Old Testament ends, and then at the start of the New Testament, you have the Book of Matthew. And like I said, there was like this 400-year gap in here. So, you had a lot of like serious Israelites and serious Jews who were reading their Old Testament and thinking, man, like, what's going on? Is there anything sort of like missing and all this? So, like, they just start writing, pretty much. And so, like, what about? So, like, but-- - That's why. - But, it's, it's, so it tells the story that there was 200 of these fallen, you know, divine sons of God. They descended on a place called Mount Hermon, which is a real place you, you can go there. I think there's like a UN facility there, or something like that, to probably up to no good. - And that's the UN, they were young. - Yeah, but they're hiding the giants, dammit. So, that's where these fallen angels descended, and they made a pact with one another. There were 200 of them, and we're just like, hey, like, we're gonna commit to this. Yeah, we're gonna piss off God, but we're gonna commit to this. And then, they're the ones who actually go and have relations with the women on the earth, and they produce the Nephilim. And then, after that, you know, it talks about how, essentially, human depravity. So, just escalated. So, you had the fall in Genesis 3, where sin entered the world, you know, through Adam and Eve. - And shortly after, there are furries. (laughs) - I was a chapter two. Sorry to keep the railing, you know? - Yeah. - 'Cause I keep flashing, and you have one. - You have one, really. (laughs) - But, like, Genesis 6 is where that rebellion escalated, because now you have these fallen angels in Enoch are teaching them about, like, metallurgy, and, like, making weapons, and cosmetics, and omens, and doing all these different types of things. So, this is where humanity just pretty much got really good at killing one another, and they kind of, like, escalated that. And then, it was after that, you know, 'cause that happens in Genesis 6, then you have the tower babbo later. So, we have a human, or we have human rebellion, which sin enters the world. We have a supernatural rebellion in Genesis 6, and then we have a human rebellion again in Genesis 11. So, a lot of Christians tend to think that, oh, there was just, like, one fall, and that explains why the world is the way it is. But, in ancient Israel, I would have been reading their Bible and saying, no, there's really, like, three reasons why the world is the way it is right now. And just, in Genesis 6, with the Nephilim, things just got progressively worse. And that's why God had to send the flood. Because it said that, like, I think it says, like, evil was in the heart of, like, every single man or something, like, it just got so depraved during that time. So, that's what Enoch expounds on. Now, it's not canonical in the sense that it's in the Bible. However, the two New Testament writers are aware of it, because, you know, the writers of the Bible are smart. They're reading books, they're making cross references, they're doing all these different types of things. Two of them reference the story of Enoch. So, just because it wasn't canonical, it didn't mean that it wasn't important. And we know that because Paul, obviously, he's writing the, he wrote, like, 70% of the New Testament. But he quotes Greek, Greek poets and different stuff like that. So, the people were well-read individuals. Yeah, like, these people were, like, well-read. They were, you know, they were just really smart. And so, pretty much from that time, it says, that when God said the flood, it said the Nephilim was on the earth before and after those days. So, somehow the Nephilim survived the flood. And there's different theories. I haven't really done a whole lot of digging on, getting into detailed on, like, all the different theories. But essentially, these Nephilim survived. And they start populating all these lands of Canaan. So, we get to the 12 spies going out there and then they're like, holy cow, we see giants up there. And then, they're scared. But eventually, Moses doesn't want to go in. So, God's just like, All right, well, you're not going to be going on. You're going to die before you ever see the Promised Land. But then Joshua, I can't remember if it's his son, but the guy who's actually replaces Moses goes in, and then he conquests all of Canaan, kills all the giants. And we know that, and this is the part where you talked about words that can be hyperbolic. In the book of Judges, or not Judges, in the book of Joshua, when he goes up in Conquer's Canaan, remember, they were just out at Egypt. They were wandering for 40 years, and now they're into the land that God had promised them. This is the people who are like, "Yo, there's a whole bunch of giants here." Yep, yep, so they're entering in here, and then they just do all this killing. God tells them to go in the Hebrew word as Karem, which means devote to destruction certain groups in this land. Now Karem's a gangster word. Yeah, Karem. And so people will look at this and see that, well, God commanded genocide, because God told them to devote to destruction, man, woman, and child from these particular places. Well, some context matters here, Mr. Eli. Mr. Nick. Mr. Herrera. Comparator. (laughing) Context matters in the sense that God only gave that instruction for them to devote to destruction and completely wipe out only the places in the hill country of the land of Canaan. And the people who were living in the hill country of Canaan were the giants. The people who were living in the valleys, those are the humans, and God told them to just drive them out. But to the hill country, to the giants, God told them to devote to destruction. So the conquest was just as much removing the Nephilim from the land just as much as it was going in and conquering the land, so to speak. - Were the giant cyclopses? - No. - Probably not. - For sure. - Christopher Nolan lied to me. (laughing) - The hills have eyes. - They're singular. - The hills have eyes. - So there's, this is one funny fact I will throw out there. So there's an internet, I don't know if it's an urban legend or what it is, but it's kind of like in the public consciousness that the Smithsonian at one point had Nephilim bones or giant bones. Well, for sure. There is officially, it never existed, quote unquote, but I don't actually even know where this started, but it's kind of like a commonly known thing that like in the 1920s or something like that, the Smithsonian had accessed or had the bones to like a Nephilim or a giant and then they smashed them. They were told to smash them. - Smithsonian has locked away a whole bunch of stuff where they're like, nope, we didn't touch it. - Or they just, we got rid of it. - So that's a well known thing. The Smithsonian does have a bunch of artifacts that are not on display that they keep in their own like private vaults. - Well, and then you got rid of too. Like as you're talking, it just goes over that where it's like, nope, we don't know what you're talking and you can't even request information on it, right? - I read about this like a year or two ago. I'm probably poorly remembering it, but I heard that there was no actual like factual basis for it, but it was just something that was told over and over again. But I did find out a congressman do have access to all of the vaults of the Smithsonian that are not publicly available. So show me the fucking Nephilim. I'm coming for the bones. - The gang steals bones. - Change the name, but. - Show me the giants. I'm gonna take Isaiah with me too. - Yeah, yeah. - Do as do. - I agree with you. - Enoch was the, that's where I was like, man, that name sounds super filler. It was the only dude that went to heaven without. And there's such a short passage for the book that Enoch did, why is it have his name? 'Cause it's the only dude that, hey, homie was great. We took him to heaven, didn't die. - So, yeah, obviously Enoch did not write first Enoch or second Enoch or third Enoch. The term used for it is pseudo-pigriffle. So it's just like, they just described the name Enoch to it, but Enoch of course didn't write it. 'Cause he was taken up to heaven. And there was one other person who was taken up to heaven and that was the prophet Elijah. - No. - In second Kings, yeah. So giants, where were we? - They were, oh, it was killing giants. They were like, yo, get rid of these things. And that one was the, was it like, hey, these creatures shouldn't exist? Or what was the mind? - Well, the idea was, this was just a forbidden mixture. And it was actually through Enoch kind of expounds that the-- - It's like an abomination? - Yeah, it was abomination. So like, obviously God couldn't have Israel do what they needed to do if they were giants in the land. But where we get demons from, this idea comes from these Nephilim that died. Well, because they were sort of a half mixture, they didn't really have any place to go. So they just kind of became wandering spirits that. And then so like the dead spirits of the Nephilim essentially became what we modern, or what we now understand today is like, New Testament demons and demonology and stuff like that. - Their souls are just wandering. - Yep. That makes sense. - Because they can't go anywhere. So now it's okay, this creature that is-- - I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I've never heard this before. And I find it odd. - What is the reference for this? - So that sort of developed in the second temple period, like you get stuff like, you know how it talks about this. In Michael Heiser's book, demons, you can read more. I think he talks about it in the non-Sin realm too. But yeah, is the idea, or at least they're understanding of where demons come from, especially in this inter-testimental period between the Old Testament and New Testament and when these people were writing things, that's how the idea of demons sort of, because my layman understanding is that it's like angels that were fallen. - Yeah, well, right, but those fallen angels in Genesis six, God put them in chains and for gloomy darkness, where they're right now, where they'll eventually be sent to Tardarus, which Paul uses the Greek word for hell there. So those angels rebelled. But speaking of angels who didn't rebel, have you guys heard that Satan rebelled with a third of the angels when that happened? - Yeah. - Did you know that that's not in the Bible? - I was kind of figuring that that was, yeah. It's more of that fanfiction stuff. There is one time in the Bible where the term third in the term angel show up together and it's in Revelation 12. And if you actually read Revelation 12, it's talking about the context of this happens at the birth of the Messiah, which was Jesus. So there was no time when Satan rebelled with a third of the angels of heaven in the, in the permeable world again. - Imagine setting your makeup then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippy setting mist from Mavily New York. Just plump, dewey hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new grippy setting mist from Mavily New York. - Maybe it's Mavily. - Yes. So if there's another effect for you. - I'm just gonna trust you on all this 'cause I know a lot of stuff even reading or studying it. Like I was like, oh, Enoch's the only one. And it's like, no, Elijah's also the one. But it's so much is lost with anything on this. You guys. - I'd be so pissed. - You'd be so pissed? - Yeah. - About one. - Imagine if we got sent out to go kill giants and then we pulled it off or like bad news guys and now they're demons. (laughing) - It's so bad. - So. - This is where we're from, somehow Palpatine returned. - Nick, I gotta say that's a fucking kick ass series to write. - Fuck. - You know a bunch of NSF dudes go out and they slay these fucking giants 'cause they're like, yeah, they shouldn't be here. - Oh, we got ghosts now. - Fuck. - Call the ghosts, but. - The way we're straight off. - Now I need to show them a set. - Yeah. - Fuck me. - And now we're gonna call it our favorite show ever here. - Yeah, it's like, well, call the Impala. - Yeah. - Do you ever watch, yeah, just speaking on biblical terms, do you ever watch the one from Kevin Smith, Dogma? - I still haven't either. - What? - Yeah. - Never mind, you haven't seen Lord of the Rings. - What is that about, Dogma? - Have you seen it? - I think he made that after, right after Clirks. - So it was Clirks and then Dogma or maybe one other? - Yeah, it was after Clirks and all that stuff. - It's like a movie famously, you can't find it, right? 'Cause it's not like streaming. - Yeah, 'cause Weinstein took the rights from it and Kevin Smith didn't have the rights for it for a while and now you can actually go and watch it. And it's got Matt Damon and Ben Stiller. - Ben Affleck. - Ben Affleck, excuse me, Ben Affleck. - Selma Hayek. - Ben Affleck, yeah, Selma Hayek's in it and Chris. - Chris Rock is in it. - The guy that plays Snape. - Yeah, yeah, the Alan Rickman. - He plays Metatron, he's the voice of God in it and dude, it's got so many big actors in it and I think he was trying to make fun of religion in a way but it ended up being like pretty good. - It did really, really well. Like he, good movie, if you don't watch it. - What's the, I'm more surprised you haven't seen it. - What's the deal? I've heard about it a bunch. I've never sat down and watched it. What's the deal with Weinstein? Like, why did he, or Weinstein? Why didn't he, like, why did he try to poo poo the movie? - I think it was right around the time that he got accused of, you know, women. - It would have been way before I thought. - Yeah, that's what it was like. - 'Cause it was like late 90s. - I don't even know. - Somehow he ended up with the rights for it and Kevin Smith tried to get it back from him. Don't quote me on any of these shit. I'm not, I'm speaking off the top of my head here but they were finally able to get the rights back for it and now you can watch it again. - 'Cause I think it's only fucking YouTube. - It was held in legal limbo because Weinstein personally owned his distribution rights following his theatrical release. For years Weinstein refused to release the film or sell the rights back to Smith, demanding $5 million because of that ownership redated the streaming era of the movie, largely disappeared from digital platform and home video. for a decade. Holy shit. Over a decade. Because it was kind of known as the movie you couldn't watch. And everybody kind of attributed that, like, oh, it was because of the subject matter instead of like a licensing agreement. I didn't even know that because I watched it when it, back when it came out, so it was a long, long time ago. Yeah. I don't know if the whole concept is like God is making fun of you. But in the end, just like God always believed in you in the entire time, if you watch it. It's, it's, it's actually pretty good. If you watch it. It's pretty good. Yeah. It's called Dogma. Dogma. How old is it? Holy shit. It came out in 2000. Really 2000. Or no, like 99 maybe. I wasn't even born in April 2000. Yeah. This is the game. You weren't born yet? No. I was born in 2000. Oh no. Oh shit. I think this came out like as you were born around that time. You were pre 9/11 at least. I was pre 9/11. I was talking with, I was talking with. I don't know where I was when it happened. I don't, I don't know what. My friends have been telling me or whatever. Wondering around. But you might be into. It's the second tower of one one. And 1999 dogma. Oh, thank you. Yeah. There we go. Nailed it. So you might be into the Bible stuff a lot of it as I've heard. But no, it's a really good story. And like, I don't know if they were trying to make fun of it back then. But it's pretty, it's pretty good. Well, I'm all part of it. Kevin Smith is, I mean. And he's a, he's a good director and everything. Kevin Smith. If you want some of the funniest shit. Jay and Solid Bob are in it. Jay and Solid Bob. And then when they talk, Kevin Smith talking about working with Bruce Willis. And all that is one of the most amazing stories. Which bed? He has an entire hour segment of talking about working on a die hard for. And not working with Bruce Willis. Or just like, oh, yeah, I can, I can spice up the scene. And then working with Bruce Willis the first time. And I cannot do that story justice. I will send it to you guys because it is comedy gold. Give me the wavetops. Like, he shows up for, he has to rewrite the scene with Bruce Willis in it. Or he shows up first day. And he's the nerd and die hard for. Bruce Willis shows up or he shows up. Everyone's waiting. This is millions of dollars just for a single day. Like, hey, what are we, what are we doing? What are we waiting? Oh, it's BWT. It's like, what? BW. Bruce Willis time? Yeah. Wait, we're all holding for him just to shoot a scene. And this is like four hours of fast. So, they're waiting for Bruce Willis to show up. He's looking at the script. He's like, eh, Bruce Willis finally shows up. And it's like, hey, let me see. Oh, he wanted to do this. So I can, oh, no, John McLean. John McLean wanted to do any of this. This is stupid, blah, blah, blah. Fast forward. So like, well, I can try to rewrite the script for you. Oh, okay. Kevin Smith. Fantastic writer. Like, this is how he's got to that point in his career. Yeah, again, I can take a shot at this. And him and Bruce Willis are talking there. The entire team is like, oh, yeah, we just wait for Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis is like, I'm not doing this. This scene sucks. I need it. No, he wouldn't say any of this. The director is like, well, I don't know what. What can we do? It's like, okay, well, here, well, the studio is calling. They're saying we have to film this. Bruce Willis calls the studio. He's like, hey, I'm not doing this. This scene is garbage. I would never say it. John McLean wanted to say that. Well, you're going to have to say it's like, okay, well, who else do you have to play John McLean? That's what I thought. We're rewriting it. Fuck off. They went, gave Kevin Smith a day to rewriting everything. He comes back two days later. Bruce Willis loves it. And then they shoot exactly what he wrote. But then Kevin Smith goes into more on working with Bruce Willis and how that was as a moment or a time because he did that movie with him. Yeah. That movie was, yeah, he has a lot of stories about it. He loves him still. He paid his respect, but he's like, I would never work with that guy again or film with him. Second time. I don't know why. Oh, it was not the second time. It was like three or four years ago. Oh, really? That was for a die harder. Right? The one that was with Justin Long. Yes, yes, exactly. Yeah, the one with Justin Long when they first started. That was, yeah, that was bright after dog. Is it die hard with a vengeance? Is that the? Is it die harder? Is it die harder? Is it die harder? Is it die harder? Die hard? Live free or die hard? Yeah. How many die hard? I've never seen a die hard movie. How many are they? Or are you going to watch a Christmas? What are you watching? Christmas. Yeah, how old are you? 26. Halfway to 52. Well, commented on my YouTube video one time. Did you tell in me this story? I commented on my Swamp Fox video and was like, I went to Francis Mary University. I didn't know any of this. South Carolina. I went to Francis Mary University and you just did a video on that guy. I had no idea why it was called Francis Mary. I know what it was called. He's kind of a big deal down there. Kind of a big deal. Were you like, who's this guy? Cause I knew it popped up. It pops up. It was like, like, sort of through by follower account. I was like, that's interesting. It was just hands of blood. Yeah, I covered you up in my videos. Connor was playing that one fucking game. I forget what they call it. But you like, you're those little stick figure guys. And you have to paint yourself. Like, you're surroundings. Mecha, chameleon. Yeah. Yeah, that one. He's been playing that lately. Who was, man? Connor. Oh, Connor. The guy was just here a second ago. And you know, there's a bunch of kids apparently that play that game. So he's just enjoying his time just bullying children. And it's a really good pastime bullying children. He got into a server where it was a bunch of like older guys too. That were also helping him bully the children. And it's something along the lines of like, they're just like, oh, you know, they're talking about. Oh, you're old. Oh, you're this, whatever. He's like, shut up. You learn from 9/11 from a book. It's like, hell, I kind of forget this new generation just didn't experience that. Oh, I did. What's one? Yeah. When you were two. Barely. Oh, but I did though. What's your birthday? January 2nd. Oh, okay. Yeah. So you were a whole 18 months. Avoid your. Goo goo. 2000. That is wild. Yeah, yeah. Hey, you're not toothed. Oh, man. You were so young. Yeah. No. How old are you guys? You hold on real quick. Yeah. You're going to watch Dogma for me? Probably. Okay. How do you write that down? Go around the table and guess it. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Like, I want to hear your take of it. That's actually a good video for you, by the way. To Dogma. So that way. You breaking down Dogma? That's a million view video right there. You're on the table. With that title, like, I was in Florence. I was in Florence. I will host a story and break some. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because it was a, it was a band video for a while. Me breaking down the band video. Well, just, well, that's what we were just talking about. It wasn't like band. It was just like, but I didn't play with the word. Like, I'm saying. Yeah. Oh, yeah, just clickbait. Just fucking why. I tried to go back and watch it like five years ago. Couldn't get it anywhere. I had to go on like, you know, pirate bay and find it to watch it. Dude, I know you would make a video on it. Would you two allow me to? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I actually do. Okay. It's better you come a reaction YouTuber. Just one. Yeah. Oh, fuck off. A fate worse than death. This is movies. You're different. Sorry. It's different. I was like, I reacted. Different react to it. Oh, well, I was so. You're your biblical knowledge. Breaking down Dogma. Like, I would watch a movie. Or that video, that YouTube video all day long. All right. That's a huge status. It's pretty cool in my ears. Because they're biblical. They're biblical. Biblically accurate with like a lot of the characters and a lot of them. I haven't seen it, but I don't feel like that's true. I don't know. You said the name. You said the name. It comes from 30 knock, which is probably the most craziest garbage out there. Yeah. Alan Rickson is Mediterranean. Dude, it's kind of. It's kind of a cool movie. And I think. And I think. And she's hot in it. Sorry. I think we're getting to the crux of this one. I agree with Kodiah. That'd be a good one. It'd be cool if you broke that down. Because no one's watched it in 20 years now. I was such a good movie. Especially a genuine movie. I will heavily consider it. All right. How about that? Dr. Curious. I will heavily consider that. Dogma. Oh, well, that's actually very highly rated. I compared to what I thought on like a on IMDB. George Carlin was in it before he died. It's a really like it has a powerhouse. If you look at that list of actors, that is. George Carlin playing a cardinal is very funny. It's just kind of funny. Because he plays George Carlin. He's like, ah, fuck you. And he was like, ah, I was fucking hitting my golf club today. Okay. All right. Matt Damon plays Loki. I'm starting to think this is not terribly biblically accurate. But that's why he was like that. That is North. That is North. That's that's Marvel. It's a result of the battle. It's Tom Hiddlest. Yo, yeah. I forgot about that. Speaking of which. You guys know that, uh, um, who's the actor of the plays Iron Man? Robert Downey Stark. You know, he's cast. Oh, that was weird. How old are you? You know, he's cast his doctor. I hate Marvel to be fair. Yeah. Thanks. They announced that like a year ago. I know. I forgot. No. So now I'm. I'm on conspiracy theory. Marvel shorts in my algorithm. It's everywhere. Oh, they didn't cast Pedro Pasquale to play in the 15th. They're good. He's a different guy in that movie. How was he in that season? He's in fantastic. Oh, for fuck's. That's better than whoever Channing Tatum's character was. Oh, I see. Gambit. That was. Oh, I cringe. It was. It was. It was. It was. Oh, I see. I see. I see. Gambit. Oh, that was. Oh, I cringe. I don't know if she's an original character not Pedro that was brutal. Gosh. This is devolving queen. Oh, so fast. I love it. I don't know, like, oh, get back. like, Brent, again, I just, now can we circle back to you? You were the first individual student. - Sure, I just felt bad that we included a guest and didn't actually include any conversation. I was just trying to, you know. - Thank you, Brent, and I appreciate that. I want you to feel like you're a part of this, you know? - Netflix. - And I wanted to hear about giants. - I know, I know. - Yeah, everyone's gonna get a circle back. He's like, oh, he's gonna be like deep into the weeds on this. That's why I find it. - I found it super interesting 'cause it was a, even the Tower of Babel. I was like, oh, or no, Eden and other societies existing. I was like, I never even. - I feel like we need the red flashing on the screen with the dude, dude, like the alarms, like autism alert. - That's it. - They always do super, look at when we had forgotten about the E and on, that was-- - Oh yeah, wow, yeah. - Massive episode. - We know, and we know our audience. - Yep, oh, lock in. - Go ahead, one upper, tell your story. What'd you do last night? - Well, before I did, you tell your story first. - Oh, I have a menu item at Taco John's now. I have the Fat Breedow, and you can just go to Taco John's and order the Fat Electrician Breedow now. - That's really cool. - This is dropping tomorrow, and then Brandon goes out at 12-0-1 to 1-up me. - I gotta call from G-O-A. Long story short, there was a lawsuit that was filed because with the big, beautiful bill, it took the tax stamp price on a suppressor SBR or short barrel shotgun, down from $200 down to zero, which is constitutionally important, because when the NFA was first instituted in 1934, the Supreme Court ruled that it was constitutional, because they were saying it was an infringement on the Second Amendment, shocker it is, but they were saying it was constitutional because Congress, not because you're registering the firearm, but because Congress has the ability and the authority to levied tax. So you're registering the $200 tax, not registering the firearm, and that's why they approved it. So fast forward, with the big, beautiful bill fight, we were able to take down, we were originally trying to remove SBRs, SPSs, and silencers from the NFA entirely. The Senate Parliamentarian, thanks to John Thune, decided that that was not allowed, and so we just settled for returning it to $0. So it's a $0 tax. Now, how the fuck do you register a tax that is $0? It's unpaid. There's no tax now. So the only thing there is to register the firearm, which is the position of GOA and all these other groups, including myself, and apparently some Texas judge just agreed. So a federal court judge just declared that he ruled that yes, that makes perfect sense. Now that you're not registering the tax, this is unconstitutional. Then the DOJ and ATF essentially had seven days to respond. It was really the DOJ had seven days to basically respond to this injunction saying that, oh, well, we're going to appeal this and take it up to the Supreme Court. Folks like myself and all the other gun rights groups basically were pleading the administration to not appeal this. Five and a half days go by, and everybody's just like no appeal. We're like, oh shit, this might actually be happening. So I get a call from Aiden Johnson, shout out, my boy over at GOA. He says, hey, we've got this crazy idea. So some of the plaintiffs on the lawsuit were Gun Owners of America, which is a great, fantastic group. Silencer Co, Silencer Shop, and B&T. He's like, let's go to the Silencer Shop HQ that is just opening up. Let's go there because they're one of the plaintiffs on the lawsuit. You're a member of GOA. And let's purchase a Silencer Co and B&T suppressor because apparently under the ruling of the lawsuit, those were the things that were protected. So you're like quadruple protected under this federal judge ruling, and it's under the jurisdiction of the judge because of where it was at geographically. So this is the best legal case possible. And on midnight, 1201, let's file for the very first transfer of a suppressor without an NFA tax stamp in 92 years since the NFA was put into law. - This is? - That was a little one today. - That's why my eyes are bloodshot. I got home last night at like 4am. - Homey made history last night. - Yeah, so I have, sitting on my kitchen counter, I have two suppressors, the first two suppressors that were transferred because of the ruling. - You're gonna frame them? - I don't know what to do with them yet. - This is actually a great bit too. So we did actually, we made history. We were able to make it happen. The DOJ never, at least at time of recording, the DOJ still, they have like a 60 day window or something like that, but they had seven days before the judge's ruling went into effect. They did not appeal, so we'll see how this ages. But so we did, as soon as the judge's ruling took effect, filed for the first NFA transfer of a suppressor in 92 years, and they technically sold it to me. So it was two cans. It was a silencer co-suppressor and a B&T suppressor. The first one, they charged me $17.76, and then the second one, they charged me $19.34, which is 19.34 when the NFA came into it. So it was great, it was phenomenal. - I feel like that's not a lot of money for a suppressor. - It's nothing, yeah. - Oh, no, no, no, no. - Those are very nice suppressors. - It was a hardy discount, I'd greatly appreciate the gentleman. - Dude, I've seen that today, because again, TBI woke up, I was like, oh yeah, Brandyw was doing that last night, midnight, 'cause I remember it was like, why is Brandyw going too often? That's all I could think. - Oh yeah, 'cause we left the autism forum, 'cause they went away for helping out with the autism forum last night, too. - Yeah, we did the autism forum, it was a campaign event, but like an issues-based forum. - Eli, it's not such a retarded thing when it comes to suppressors. - Oh, you're going to kill more people if you got a suppressor, right? - People think, again, like guns, when you hear suppressor, you're like, oh, it's like, dude, dude, dude, dude. - No, it just lowers it a little bit. - We make sure you take those people out to the range and let them shoot a suppressor. - A suppressor, five, five, six. - Yeah, well, like, when we would bring the Hollywood-type people out like, to the range and things, they'd be like, is it going to be loud? It's a suppressor, oh, that. And they would be blown away by like, oh, it's not completely quiet. It just lowers it to where you don't have to wear an ear pro with it. - Take your standard AR-15 and put a suppressor on it and tell me if you want to shoot that without ear pro. - It is, you're still doing it. You're going down to like, 132 decibels, right? 128, depending on the round, unless it's like, subsonic ammo. It is a corridor digital, actually. I took them because they'd never fired a suppressed weapon before and I had my Wolverine and we were in indoor range. And they were like, oh, man, holy shit. What's that like? I'm like, oh, actually, here, handed it to them. And they were like, oh, they took off their ear pros. It was going to be hilarious. And then they pop around often like, oh, I thought it was like, oh, my God, that is not like John Wick, too, and they're in the subway like, this everyone's just walking, no, it is, wow. I'm clapping books together, it's what I always say. It's just like two books together next year. - It's still wild, but you just don't have to wear ear pro for it. - You're also just cycling the weapon, too. - And it's also much cooler. - Oh, I look way more now. - But it's much cooler. - But the point is, you're not going to want to kill someone more because it doesn't help with either. But if you have like an air 15 or something at home, just take that and just drop the bolt on it. You're still going to have that sound no matter what. You have the sound of the weapon cycling. It's going to be loud as shit either way. - Especially five five six. - It's and what Brandon did just since you're just getting into the world of firearms. It's something you would do, you'd have to pay $200 for to just buy a suppressor and you're waiting. You used to have to wait about 15 months. You'd send in your fingerprints, you'd send in everything. Then it's a 15 month window to wait once you purchased it and you cannot touch that thing. - Just to have a piece of metal that on its own couldn't hurt anybody, but makes your ears ring less. - This shoot. - That's a quiet suppressor. - And that was you'd wait 15 months. - Wait, you were even allowed to use it after you got it? - Yes, after 15 months, I have a $200 on top of what you spent. - So all the registration and all your fingerprints. - You're in like biometrics, you're fucking asshole in print. Like you had to send in all sorts of shit. - Just not pucker. - Yep, you kinda know a lot about this. Did you invent a gun or something? - Something like that. - I've dabbled. - I've heard. (laughing) - And then it's three more better than the AK-47. - Exactly three. - AK-50. That's three more better. - It's three more better. - It's more better. - But yeah. - So this was a big win because that's something that, you know, I mean, if you go to places like Europe, that's considered rude to fire your weapon without a suppressor. - Wow, wow, dude. - Well, you can't do a lot of things in Europe. - No, no, I'm saying that you can't have suppressors. - What? - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - They're way more strict on their firearms, but they're like, dude, if you're shooting a rifle, like, dude, put a fucking suppressor on that. What's wrong with you? - That's crazy. - And so you see why it's crazy. - Well, and the NFA entirely is just like an artifact of, you know, the mobster mentality, or excuse me, the, - Was that NFA same for? - Same for a National Firearms Act of 1934. - Yes, that one. - You had like all these people that all this organized crime that came up after Prohibition. And they were like, okay, well, why is this organized crime here? Well, clearly it's not because of Prohibition. - Alcohol, completely. - It's because of these machine gun suppressors, saw-off shotguns, all these things. That's what we need to crack down on. And oddly enough, they didn't help with gang violence. - My favorite part about Prohibition was when they intentionally poisoned U.S. civilians. - It was like 10,000 people. - Yeah. - What? - Yeah, you didn't know that? - Let's hear it, Nick. - Oh, the government intentionally, they found out that people were like taking ingredients to make their own booze. And I forget which ingredient was. It was a type of, it was a particular type of alcohol that was actually poisonous. And they intentionally started using that instead, knowing that people would turn it into booze and people drank it and died. - Yeah, it wasn't like that. - It wasn't whatever to do that. - That sucks that Prohibition happened. And there was a group of people that didn't want it to happen more than others. And that sucks that the government poisoned a bunch of people to get booze out of their system. - Well, it's crazy 'cause it's not about saving lives at that point, it's about control. - Oh, they literally, so it was adding the mandated additions of toxic chemicals such as methanol to it. And because of that, bootlegers stole the supply and produced bootleg liquor that they were consumed by massacres. - The deaths of approximately 10,000 Americans. - I know my history. - Approximately. - Okay, so 1934, what weapons were they running around with that they wanted to ban? - Well, that's like Thompson's. - That's where you saw like a lot of the Thompsons. That's where people were talking about, saw-and-off shotguns specifically, short-barrelled rifles, you know, machine guns, Thompsons. - What was the burrow length of a Thompson at that time? Is that one of the biggest ones? 'Cause you saw like, they were publishing newspapers back then. That was like one of the biggest things. Like everyone's looking at the newspapers and these crazy dudes running around with these. - Well, the Thompsons were full auto. I don't quote me on this, I'm bad at it. I've got a couple of 'em, but they're like, I wanna say they're like 10 inch, 12 inch barrels on the Thompsons. - So they were one or two. - World War II, so it was a 1928 Thompson, I think. - I remember it's called Honor. - But yeah, those were, yeah, they were largely used in World War II, but this would have been beforehand. So like-- - Maybe a lot of people found out the government was lacing drugs with fentanyl. I mean, it's the same concept. - Well, now it's not necessary. - Well, I mean, let's look. If you think the government wouldn't, they would. But a lot of it's China now. A lot of the fentanyl coming into the United States is from China. - Really? - Yeah. - It's coming across the Mexican border, not so much now, not as much now, but it's a lot of its origins are from China. - It's so interesting how organized crime works. Like how much moving pieces there have to be, like without people figuring it out. Or maybe do they know, yeah, maybe that's not the right. Did you get to see how it, it's wild if you read on organized crime and then the different syndicates and then how do they expand and then the shipments of illegal drugs and the trades they have to buy out very specifically to not get in trouble? - Well, so now like a lot of what the cartels are doing, they're going two different directions now because the drug trade is becoming more and more like unprofitable, I suppose, on like a broader scale compared to other things. So what they're shifting to now is legitimate businesses. They're actually, they're doing a lot of like farming and agriculture. They're still running, I was going to say Althacada. - Althacada, they're both going to say Althacada. - Althacada stores or what? - Well, well, this man's a man and next to her on that. But what, he literally did a video on the mattress store thing. - Oh, he did. - I have theories, okay. - But they're also, they're moving to things, they specifically things that are facing my district is things like oil field theft or like oil theft, where they're just stealing oil directly. - I used to. - A lot of people ran it and had to oil on it. - It was the way to make money back in the day. - Really, you seem to make money. - Yeah. - I wish too, I had the exact same problem. - You've seen James Dean, a giant, I think was the movie that was, yeah, just like the rough knack that just happens across a plot of land that is full of oil and becomes a billionaire. - I have anyone seen that here? - James Dean. - James Dean. - Brandon's like, I've never seen Dogmar Lord of the Rings. You guys, you know, everyone would see-- - The motherfucker was an icon of Hollywood. He only had three movies. - I think it was Rubble without a cause, east of Eden and giant. - The Breakfast Sausage? - Yeah. - A mom's right. - The movie had been like 1958, right, James Dean. - I think he was dead by then. I don't, I think it was 53, 54, something like that. - The Breakfast Sausage guy? - Jimmy Dean. - Oh, yes. - I didn't realize he was the first. - He only did three movies. That is one thing I didn't know. - I read. - I don't know how I, I know he loved cars when he died in the car. - Yeah, he died in that car. - The little bastard. - The Goldberg ass. - What? - Goldberg. - We were in his garage. - He has one of those? - Yeah, the car that James Dean died in, Goldberg said, this is the one that he died in. - No, he doesn't have the actual car. - Not the actual car, obviously. - He had one. - Does he have a 50-spotor? - Does he have a 550-spiter? - Yes. - Yeah, that one. - That was in Goldberg. - I don't remember him having that, I don't know why. - Yeah, he had the spider, it was-- - It was like a 4-spot 50-spiter. - Yes, he had the Hellcat, he had the Hellcat in the demons on that one area, and right across from it, he had that spider sitting right there, and he specifically said, this is the one that James Dean died in, not-- - Some of the pictures. - That was not the car. 'Cause I don't think anybody knows where that car ended up. But he has one of the exact cars that James Dean died in. And John sat in it, and we took a video with John in it. - Oh, that's good luck. - Yeah, because he was talking about how much it gets off the torque of it, he says it will come off the front wheels. - Bill, we need you to settle something for us. We need to know, we need to see the bastard. He's got it, it's in front of the Hellcat's right there. I mean, I think for-- - Dude, Bill owns one of the OG ones, that's insane. 'Cause-- - Bro, Bill's got one of the OG ones. I'm pretty sure Bill beat the fuck out of me if I'm mis-rimmering what the story you told me. - Well, looking like Bill owns an original 1955 spider which is absolutely insane. - Good car. - Yeah, John sat in it. And John was like, this is a tiny car. Holy shit. - You know, I'm retarded, I don't know what I'm talking about. - Are you talking about this one? - No, it's directly in front of that one. It's sitting right here. - He worked that car. - I'm trying to find it. - Yeah. - Yeah, fuck's right there on the picture you're showing me. It's right there. He said, this was the car that James deemed himself in. I have one of the original-- - We didn't know himself, but-- - Not the car, but-- - Well, no, no, I mean, I'm saying he didn't kill it. He didn't kill it, I'm gonna leave this podcast. - He think Jesus was born during Toyota Thon on purpose? - Yeah. After much studying. - You want to just call Bill? - I'm trying to segue him back in. - Now I really need to know. - I'm trying. - This is one of my favorite things about this podcast. Cody's about to legitimately just call Bill Goldberg. - Toyota Thon, spike. It's yours. What do you wanna do with that ball? - I'm enjoying playing with this Sharpie. - Come on, I overhanded it at the tee for you. Hit it. - Is Bill gonna answer? - Do you know wrestling? God, you're so young, you might not. - I remember watching the Undertaker. - So Undertaker's want-- Well, he hangs out here. - He's probably doing-- - You know, Goldberg, Bill Goldberg. - No. - Do you know who Goldberg is? - Because Bill were arguing about cars. - Edge. - They didn't know who Goldberg was either. - No, we didn't know. - Goldberg's like one of the, like, like-- - Fuck, and-- - Oh, love, love the ball. - I knew Bill. - I didn't think-- - Should we do the offenders? - Oh, yes, the offenders, all-- - Do you know about the offenders? - All the offenders. - Oh, so we have a superhero group think of like the Avengers, but the offenders. So the way this works is you get to pick your superpower, but every superpower has a bad offset and we get to pick the offset. So for example, Cody can fly. - Cody, why can't you fly? - I can only fly when I'm shouting racial slurs. - Okay. - So Nick, what's yours? - I'm post-nut clarity, man. So I'm like, I'm like professor Xavier, but only for like 30 to 45 seconds after I come. - I can run it. - What's the drawback? - Huh? - I gotta bring my wife with me everywhere. - Oh, okay. - I again, travel the speed of light and then I cannot interact with anything for five minutes. So I have to just take notes. - Yeah. - To save-- - Yeah, to save-- - To get the crime kick. - Something that was pointed out to me recently, I didn't remember Dan Cummings or Dan Cummings. His power and offset on the offenders, 'cause I forgot that I don't think I was on that podcast. Maybe I was, I forget. It's a long time ago. His power was, he gets to shoot laser set of his dick, but his offset is, he has to feel it the whole time. Like God, that was such a good offset. - So, what kind of superpower do you want? (laughing) - God's word, I, God's, what you choose walking on water. - Maybe, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. Oh, God's, I mean, this might be a basic one, but I do think it's a good idea. think it would be really fun, but being invisible. - Who has that? Is it Rich? - If someone else has it, I can think of another one. - Yeah, Rich, he has to masturbate. - The entire time. - He can be invisible. - Okay, yeah, so probably not that one. - So he can trust me, we got good offsets on any of this. - Whatever he says next, we're just doing, I don't care if he has a power or not. - I'll give you an example real quick. - When I was out in West Texas, there was a security guard at one of the facilities we were at, just on campaign stuff. And he was like, by the way, a big fan of the podcast, can I join the offenders? I'm like, fuck it, what do you got? He's like, we're out in the middle of the desert. It's 110 degrees, West Texas. And he's like, I wanna make it snow whenever I want. Like, cool. Offset, you live in Northern Canada. - I was gonna say the temperature can't change. - It's okay. - It's just raining. - Oh, it's so exciting. - But we're driving away. He's just like, put it on, he stills up there. - I'm like, that's the point, asshole. - I just put my back. - I tried to warn you on unsub. I said I was like, my super power is at any point, I can just summon a pirate ship, out of nowhere. - It's fine, the Pope has to sign off on it. - Dobbly funny is a protestant. It's a dubbly funny is a protestant. - I do not report to the Pope. - I was gonna say, he has no-- - You do, no, no, you do. - Jeez, the Pope is, I'm gonna say, it's no control where it tells the Pope. - So it just appears and draws. - That's what it is. - At any point, I can just, anywhere in the world, I can just summon, and it's random. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - That's what it's all about. - No, I don't know. - So if you try to save people with a new thing. - Oh, I got an opposite. - It can only teleport to places that don't have water. - Okay, so it just has to go away. - He just dropped my pirate ship. - Sprooge. - Honestly, still a pretty good power. - I guess, I cast pirate ship. - I think it's pretty good. I'm content with that. - This man just works for the Coast Guard for the rest of his life. - And just hope I get it on water. - What plans? - What was the catalyst for pirate ship? - I don't know. It's my brain. - He got nerfed. (laughing) - I got nerfed. - You know what exactly what happened was, I thought about the scene in parts of the Caribbean 2, when they're like fighting on top of that roller thing, and for whatever reason that movie scene sticks in my mind, I did it, I thought pirate, and then I thought, "Ello Puppet," and then I thought, "All right, it's a pirate ship." That's what went in my head. - What the fuck, what do you have in name, that superhero? - Pirate ship guy. (laughing) - I mean, Marvel's got some of that. - I can use pirate ship salesman. - Okay, to be fair, Marvel's not that much, very much that much creative. - Pirate ship guy, they're robbing the store. - Why? - He's the cop. - He's shit. - It's the guy from the back room, say? - Yes, he's the pirate, that guy. - Captain, oh fuck. (laughing) - Well, if you're trying to be a hero, it's savey Jones. - Savey Jones. (laughing) - Do you savey Jones? (laughing) - And then the point is, like, you crushed Apple. - And it comes with a crack in on it or something. I don't know. - Good Lord. - Oh my God. - Yeah. - That's, yeah, that's about it. - My man, where did the beautiful people on the internet find you before we go to the after show? We'll do like a 10 minute after show if everyone's out for that. - Good. - Should be fun. - Hey, oh yeah. Where did the people find you on the internet? - YouTube, Nils Glen, two ends. Instagram, also Nils Glen, and that's about it. - Well, thank you for coming on the podcast, man. - Yeah. - Yeah, thank you for having me. - Absolutely. - Of course, like, I autism, just, - Tismed out right there, super appreciated that. - Happy to give into that. - Now, I think all of us had a good time. Like, I learned a shit ton that I did not know. That's what I find the most interesting part of it. So, thank you very, truly appreciate it. The knowing is half the battle. Ding. Cody closes out, you beautiful. - Thank you for joining the unsubscribe podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tab, the Fatal Electrician, Nils. Britain Arrayer, myself don't operate. Thank you so much. Please join us on the unsubscribe after show on Patreon. - Bye. (upbeat music) - Imagine setting your makeup, then forgetting it's even theirs. - Maybe it's maybe. - Maybe it's maybe.