Andy Samberg

Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. I'm very excited about my guest, my dear friend, the lovely, the sweet, the juicy and talented Andy Sandberg. We're going to talk about so many good things today. We're going to talk about him being a California kid and growing up in the Bay Area. We're going to talk about the Lonely Island writing process, what it was like in those late nights, making those digital shorts. We're going to discuss how ASMR is always a little pervy, but somehow we like it. And we're going to just get into it. Like we always do here, we even have a gotcha question. We even have one gotcha question. So listen for that. But in the meantime, I'm going to start my episode, like I always do, by checking out with someone who knows Andy and wants to talk well behind his back and give me a question ask. And joining me now is the great Seth Meyers. Seth, where are you? How are you? Can you hear me? Woo hoo hoo. 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This is nice, so I-- because I also think my hair looks it's best right after I take off the headphones. Speaking of weird hair, we've got a guest with a great head of hair today. Great head of hair. And probably, you know, certainly he's-- you know what, who are we? We're going to be a couple of fogies say he had weird hair. When he first showed up on the scene, people loved that hair. It was a magnet. It was a magnet for good times. Both him and you, I feel like I've seen a million versions of like SNL bedhead, which is like just, you know, because as we talked about, like, one thing that comes to mind with Andy that I do want to talk to him about is his relationship to sleep, because he loves sleep. Love sleep. He wrote an update feature once, and he couldn't decide if he was going to call it the kid who just woke up or bedhead Jones. And I feel like we've seen him so, you know, so often, just kind of being like so exhausted. And I think he found a perfect soulmate, because I think there are a couple of little nocturnal-- I know I can. --meerkat or whatever nocturnal animal is. Because his beautiful wife, Joanna, is a musician and, you know, as far as I can tell, that means you get up at 7 p.m. Yeah, I mean, there's no good harp inspirations happening before noon. No, you know how hard those harpists party. They party. They harp all night. They party harp, as you like to say. Wow, very good. OK, so Andy Sandberg and you guys have a very special relationship. For people that don't know, what is your relationship like? Well, it's actually-- I would like to use it as the jumping off point for what I want you to ask him about. Because I have a very fraternal relationship with him. And I don't think I'm alone. I think Andy's friendships are very fraternal with people. And I don't quite know where that comes from. I know he is a younger brother. And I think he's sort of a quintessential-- he's sort of America's younger brother. I think the minute we all laid eyes on him, he felt like a younger brother to us in a way that was very endearing. And I kind of want to know how his real life as a younger brother informed who he was. Two older sisters. Like, what was the feedback he was getting from them? Were they delighted by him? Were they a good audience? Were his parents a good audience? Because as older siblings, you and I know that the younger siblings get a lot more, you know, easier audience. Yeah. Free ride in life. Free ride. Everything is easier. But Andy does nothing the easy way. I've always said, like, he showed up. And I thought, oh my god, this guy is so softmouric. And then I realized now that he has a PhD in softmoury comedy. Like, nobody approaches what they do with, like, more integrity and intelligence than he does. But like, I'm very curious about like his younger brother, DNA, and what he thinks it adds to his approach to things. It's a great question, because you're right. I think he is a juxtaposition between feeling very like loose and goofy, but when we've all had the chance to work with him, he's very serious when he works. Yeah, and I would say he's almost never-- he's very opposed to taking like the first idea. Like he'll really-- he really wants to dig through all before he moves forward with something. And I'm very-- I think maybe-- I think our improv bones sometimes are very enamored with the first ideas. And those guys are like, no, well, that's not-- take the easy way out. And it certainly shows in their work. And then just a couple of things, these-- this is me just like talking behind his back. We were trying to schedule a lonely Allen podcast today. And when he-- we found out he was doing this instead. He said, blame Seth. This is what he said on the text chain about doing Good Hang. Blame Seth. She's his friend. So somehow, it's my fault that he's doing your podcast, because you and I are friends, not because he's friends with you. There is nothing I love more in your podcast than hearing the scheduling and how it never works. It's awful. It's awful. Gives me such agita to, you know, I love a good schedule. I love a good system. And when I hear the way people don't know that they're recording, it makes me-- I just-- they're like-- and everyone's showing up. And I'm like, it's today. I'm just like, what? I love it. I want to know everything about it. Also, there's three-- the amount like a cup of coffee can completely change their personalities. They would not have-- they would not have lasted. Lonely only would not have lasted long and pie in your times. They're like, oh, ah, ah, ah. Also, just for fun, you know he hates my dog, Samberg. Yeah, that's a running-- I was going to say joke, but it feels real. No, he really hates my dog. So you don't have to do this. But I invite you to say I asked Seth for a question, but he couldn't talk today, because his dog just died and just if he has any reaction. But you have to play it-- you have to play it real. He has been stressing me a lot recently. He likes dogs. It's not-- it's just my dog. When did that start, by the way? Why does he hate Frisbee? He met Frisbee when Frisbee was like-- we had Frisbee for two weeks. And he just immediately said that dog looks like a rat. And he had not come off at once. I think we put Frisbee in his lap. And he like-- it should just fell on the floor. I love him so much, Polar. I know. Talking to him, he is-- you know, I am out of the-- again, we talked-- you can hear all about it on my episode of Good Hang. But I love being friends with people. But he's a different kind of friend. He's just-- he just really feels like a brother. And I'm just so lucky. Oh, here we go. Oh, water works, Jones. There he goes. [LAUGHTER] Oh, but look at this. Look what we have in my podcast, Studio. We're not making people white there. I have it too, but I have my logo on it. Just in case. Oh, you see me, that's for you, no, you know it. You put your logo on the-- We call these sets tissues now. All right, love you, Seth. Thank you so much for doing this. Love you. Give him my love, too, all right? I will. OK, see you soon. Bye, bye. This episode is brought to you by Volkswagen. Ever look at something and think, wow, must be nice. Yeah, same. But here's the thing. The 2025 Volkswagen Tiguan makes all that really nice stuff totally within reach. It's got that elevated look, a seriously lux interior, with features like massaging front seats, and real wood accents. Because let's be honest, nice things shouldn't just be for people named Chadwick. Visit www.com to learn more about the 2025 Volkswagen Tiguan. Woo-hoo, woo-hoo. Hi, bye. Hi, Seth. That's thank you for doing this. Please. Come on. As soon as they said you were doing one, I was like, well, I'll be on that. I was thinking about today getting ready for today. And it was a really good feeling, first of all, because I love doing the show. But I was just like, oh, the fact that I get to just hang out with you and talk to you, and you are the kind of person that just when I think about what I would talk about with you, it just feels very nice and very relaxed. I could not be more with you. Do you want to be like, no, it's not going to be-- There's no gotchas. Not a lot of push. Well, maybe one gotcha. Well, give me one gotcha today. OK, I'll get one gotcha. Whatever gotcha you ask, I have to answer. Is that the rule? OK, yeah, one gotcha. OK. One gotcha per-- Oh my god, I can't believe I'm in the hook for a gotcha. Andy Sandberg. You can see it. Oh, no. What can you see? I have a tiny stain. Oh my god, a stain. But you said-- I jokingly half jokingly said, if you can see a stain, you have to run in here, like Dustin Hoffman, at the end of the graduate. [LAUGHTER] Got listeners for people listening. There was a little bit of a stain. OK, so Andy's taking a shirt off. This is the thing he does, where he goes, oh, there's a stain, and then he takes his shirt off. And I'm like, oh, have I been hitting the gym? [LAUGHTER] All right, I forgot. Thank you, ladies. There's two women who came in here who are forever on Andy's stain. Those are my sisters. Oh my god, it's nobody to be. That you're talking about your sisters, because that's what I wanted to start with. Oh, perfect. Are we started? Are we commenced? Yeah, we've commenced. Wonderful. Because I don't think a lot of people know that you are the younger brother of two older sisters. Yes. And in many ways, you give off little brother vibes. Thank you. Thank you. You like that? You like it. OK, what do you like about that description of you? It just is me. So it makes sense to me when I feel seen when people are like, you have little brother vibes and you're correct. What are your sisters like? And what kind of dynamic is in your family? Elder sister, very extroverted. Middle sister, introverted. I had great relationship with both of them. I loved growing up with them. Very goofy, silly, sibling vibe. And now we all have kids and our adults, and it's insane. And what are the pros of being a little brother to two sisters, to two young women? Oh, man. You don't get beat up. Yeah, right. Which is great. Which is great. So many of my dude friends are like, oh, man, my brother used to beat my ass. And not in a properly abusive way. But where they'll be like, you know, I was always a little scared. He's going to like sock me or something. And I'm just like, yeah, I never had to deal with that at all. And also, I mean, I've talked about this before. But like in my life, I have found when I meet other guys that have older sisters, we immediately get along. There's just a different level of ease for me with that energy. I don't know how to explain it. Who do you know that has older sisters? Matt Murray, Panther. Matt Murray, Panther, great SNL writer, who we love. Yep. You're absolutely right. He has the vibe of someone who's been taken gentle care of. Yes. He likes women. Yeah, truly. I mean, obviously, you would hope for everyone to be able to be OK in any situation. Like, I grew up with a lot of girls who were just my friends in a very easy way. And it didn't have to be like, are we going to hook up? Like, and I feel like a lot of my guy friends back then, it was if they didn't have sisters for some reason, those guys, it was more of a thing. Yeah, did you have, did you, were you friends with your sisters' friends? Oh, yeah, I mean, I was in love with them. You were in love with them? I didn't want to say it, but that's what I imagine. I was, I was. And also friends. Yeah. But when you're younger and they're like in the house and they're all like so pretty. And they're like laughing and throwing their arm around. Do you like candy? You're so silly. I'm just like, how merry you are right now? And you're 11 and you wanted to just marry them? Yeah, they're so, and they're all being nice. And they're like, what's that, Starris brother? So we have to be nice. So people who didn't, who don't know you or the, like you're, where you're from, where did you grow up? Tell us about your family. Grow up in Berkeley, California. Oh, yeah. Bay all day. My parents are both from New York. They moved out to the Northern California in summer of '70. They missed summer of love by a year. Maybe on purpose. Well, I do think it's interesting because you and the Lonely Island bandmates, Yorma Taconi, and Akiva Shefford both have like East Coast hippie parents that came out here. Yes, and we found each other. It is strange. We're all Northern California raised by New York parents. Why did your parents move out here? Why do you think? I think it was just happening out here. I mean, it was kind of the summer of runoff, I guess. It was just a, there was a huge migration of quote unquote, let's say hippies. I know, that's probably the wrong word to use. Right, how would you, where would you use? I mean, they were, let's, they had, my dad had long hair and was like, I'm getting out of here, you know? Like me and Margie, we're heading west, you know? It definitely was that kind of energy. But it was also like, we got nothing going on. We heard there's people, you know, having some like comfortable places to sleep out on the west coast. So I think it just brought them out here and then once you get here, it's hard to go back 'cause it's so laid back in Noah. I, and you know, we don't have to revisit it if you don't want to. But I loved your, your episode of who do you think you are? So you think you can answer, what were you from? - The PBS one? - Yes. - Finding your roots. - Yes. - That's the serious one. Sorry. - I mean, I don't know the difference, but then it was so good. And so, for people that didn't see it, you were looking kind of hoping to help your mom to find her birth father. - Both parents. - Both parents. - My mom was adopted. By the way, after I did that show, this is just an aside. I watched it with Yoram and Mari in New York 'cause I was doing press in New York or something. - Yeah. - And when it aired, it showed my mom's like adoption agency that she was adopted from and it's the place from three identical strangers. (laughing) So like, and we were like, that's why we could never find the records and find anything about it 'cause they like disappeared it. - No way. - Yeah. - So that's where my mom was adopted from? - Not a great rep. (laughing) - No. - Whoa. - So basically, yeah, sorry. The backstory on it is, I have sort of avoided doing stuff like that. - Sure. - But then they asked and it is a super great reputable show. And I asked my mom, I was like, there's a chance if I do this, they could figure out who your birth parents are. Do you want me to do it? Knowing like, I might be on TV finding out some horrible thing about our family history and what her origin was and all that. And she was just like, it would be worth it to me. I still want to know. So I did it and they just smashed it. Like we showed it, she came with me the day that we shot it. And when we walked in, they were all like, there she is. Like they were all like star struck by her 'cause they knew what they were about to drop on her. It was gonna change her life. And it was this amazing team of people. And what came out of it was, they found out who both her parents were. And now we're in touch with both sides of her family. - No way. - She has like four half siblings on her father's side. And then like a couple first cousins still with us and their families on her mother's side. And the craziest thing about it by far, that's like from a movie that I get she'll still talking about is once she connected with both sides of the families, they both unbeknownst to each other went looking through her biological parents' old stuff they still had. And they both found the same photograph of the two of them together. - But they both had. - They both had the picture of them together when they had their like brief time together. - Oh no, that makes me want to cry. - Isn't that crazy? - So they had a brief, so your mom's parents had like a brief relationship. - Yes. - And then a baby that they gave up for adoption. - Yes, and we don't know if her father even knew. - Right, and they went on to marry other people and have other kids. - Yes. - They kept the same picture of them. - Yes, from like a date in San Francisco. Also another crazy thing which was that they had met in the Bay Area and then my mom moved there. - Yes, there was something that wanted her to come back. - Whoa. - There were so many weird, trippy things about it. - I love that kind of stuff. That just feels so like life has some kind of brand design. - Yeah. - It was really beautiful and she was so happy and now we have like, oh yeah, we all look like our grandparents. - Well, I loved, I remember that your grandfather, the big reveal was that your Italian. - Yes, exactly. And did I tell you the story that I went back to Brooklyn. I was shooting Brooklyn at nine at the time and all the crew and everyone knew I was doing it. And I came back in on Monday 'cause we did it over the weekend and all the camera guys and the crew guys were like, "So?" and I was like, "I'm a quarter's a seal, yeah!" And they all went, "Hey!" (laughing) - Like every part of it was like from a movie. It was so awesome and wonderful. - Oh my God. - They're like, "Ah, welcome by sun!" - Do you feel any, do you feel different knowing that? - I do feel a little different, yeah. I mean, we always were like, there's something that's not just like, literally, you know? (laughing) But yeah, it was crazy. And for my mom, especially, it was just like, you know, she was at this time probably 75, 76 years old, she had given up. She was like, "I'm gonna go my whole life not ever knowing." - Oh, Andy, that's awesome. That's an amazing story. And the idea that they both kept the photos is very deep. - Yes. - Because it feels like they, it's like a time travel moment where the future selves planted that photo, you know, like that's a real time travel shit. - I have thought about it a lot 'cause it's so special and it does like feel written. - Yeah. - And the only thing I can, there's a few theories. One is like, they thought maybe someday this exact thing would happen and they wanted her to find them. - Yeah. - You know, if he did know about her. - Yeah. - And if not, it's just that maybe they both really enjoyed their time together and it was like, you know, you don't like wipe your old relationships from social media, you keep them 'cause they were special to you at that time, right? - Yeah, yeah. You mentioned Brooklyn I-9, Jake. And now I'm really Jake Peralta is like an Italian name. - He's half Jewish, half Italian. It was like a prophecy, Mike and Dan, four sides. (laughing) - So for those who don't know, Mike Sher, who was also a guest on Good Hang, along with Dan Gore, created the show. And I think it might be interesting for people to know like our conversation that we had before the show. You've spoken about it before, but you know, you were, you left SNL when? What year did you leave? - I wanna say like 2012. - Yeah, so, you know, you were, I was about four years ahead of you in the trajectory of being on the show and leaving it. And you were approached by them to do this show. And we had a conversation about it. And you were really, what do you remember from that time? - Well, the starting point of it for me was when I did a guest week on Parks, which was one of the most delightful weeks of my life. And I remember very vividly having a conversation with you that week, where I was like, "Everyone's so nice, everyone's so funny, the writing's good." And I remember your quote exactly was, "It's a good life, Sandberg." And I held on to that like very tightly. And then when they asked me about it, I called you again to be like, "I should," right? 'Cause going into it, I hadn't been thinking I wanted to do a TV show having just done seven years of a TV show, which I'm sure crossed your mind when it came up too. But then, truthfully having seen Parks and love it so much and see it work so much and that had the experience of working on it and feeling that warmth and that happiness of working on it, it really informed my choice. And Mike, as we know, has his rule that he tells everyone before he works with him, which is like, the only rule is no assholes. - Yeah. - Every one you work with will be thoughtful and kind and engaged and life is too short basically. And I was like, "That sounds good to me." Do you remember me calling you? - Yeah. - Okay, I do, I remember. - I wanna know your side. - Well, I remember because I, you know, it feels like, you know, there's this moment when you leave SNL or any job and you just kind of think, "Well, I guess I'm jumping off a cliff." Like, I'll never, you know, I guess, you know, I'm done. But you're on, there's a lot of people at the station that have also left and they kind of go like, "Hey, welcome, there's a lot more out there." And that's what I felt like that conversation was with me and you, which is, yes, there's so many opportunities and if it's a mic sure, Dan Gore opportunity, I would take it because it is gonna be one of the best experiences of your life. - Yes. - Did it prove to be? - Absolutely. And by the way, it's a gift that keeps giving. Like, it just moved to Netflix in the US and it's been there internationally. I took a trip, like a family trip to Europe a couple of years ago and it was like, because of the Netflix part of it, I was like, everywhere I went, I was like, "Jake Barolta!" I was just telling Fred this too. I was like, I felt like I was on friends. I was like, "Oh my God, the show is actually really big and people really watch it." And kids love it and families watch it together. Which was such a part of my experience growing up was like watching good quality sitcoms together as a family. And just being able to think that I did something that is that for people is really gratifying. And it was amazing. Like, I'm still really close with everyone I worked with there and loved it so much and everything you told me would happen happened. - I mean, it's such a good show and exactly that. You feel like there was a sense of family. Can you tell me, like, what was, like when you think about the deeply funny moments with Andre Brower, I love. And I'm so sorry for him, his passing and his loss. What, when you think about what you and Andre, how you guys laugh together, what was that dynamic behind the scenes? - God. - He's so good in the show, he's so poised, he's such a good actor, but he was, and also to me, I never, I never had the pleasure of meeting him. He seemed like he was just playful and fun. - He was, and just a good person, like so deeply moral and kind and pleasant and smart. And just like, we all absolutely loved him. I miss him a lot. Our dynamic worked immediately. It was like, if one of those things were just like, okay, this is Kismet, I don't know how to explain it. 'Cause they, Mike and Gore cast him from like a meeting, they just like did a zoom or something with him. And they were like, yeah, it's, I mean-- - You know what dude, this is probably pre-zoom. - Yeah, it was probably a Skype. - It was a Skype. (laughing) - Bro, it was a disgusting- - It was a disgusting ass Skype. We used to have to do this thing called Skype. - With a "why" in it. (laughing) - So yeah, I mean, I think Mike's talked about this a lot too. Like we showed up for the first table read before we'd even shot the pilot. He walked in and we had like a very pleasant hello and then we started reading it. And as soon as we started reading it, like the first scene, which is, you know, he comes out and I'm goofing with him and being a dummy and he's being stoic. And I, it just, you know how it is sometimes creative stuff where you're like, I don't care how this came to be. It's working and I'm so happy. - Yeah, so grateful. - And then from that moment forward, like the only thing me and him had to like, even talk about creatively was in the beginning, he didn't trust himself to do comedy. - Yeah, interesting. - Because he came so strictly from drama and Juilliard and you know, like five or six times, we would do like a more serious topic on the show and he would flip that switch and everyone would be like, oh my God, like what is Andre doing here? He's so good. Like he should be like drama, he's like the best. But then he would do his Captain Holt stuff and it was the funniest thing in the show. - It's so interesting you bring up like Juilliard and for people that like, it's kind of a shorthand for like a different way of training. - Yeah. - And, you know, I don't know. I think there's something very cool, even if you're not an actor or performer. In general, when you start working more and more, you're like, oh, everybody has a different way of working. - We all got here a different road. - I know, and we come from a very similar, I think sketch background where we're like burning through ideas and I know as a performer, you and I like to keep it kind of, I like to keep it pretty loose until it feels ready. And that really can unnerve other people. - Yes. - And it took me a long time to realize that that wasn't someone else's process. - Correct. I mean, we wouldn't do, we would do like a fun run or whatever. We took that from you guys too. We took a lot from Parks. - Let's be real. - Well, we took it from the office, so. But what fun run was kind of like a. - Once you have it scripted, then it's like, okay, have fun with it, try different things. And we would do that occasionally. We would do it more when we had a guest who was really known for improv. Like we let Menzooka's cook, for example. I don't, I mean, the difference between you and I, you're a much more seasoned performer in my opinion. I always felt that way. I feel like I have gotten so much better and have such a better understanding of acting, having done Brooklyn. Because for me, that was like acting school. I even remember another conversation I have with you when Brooklyn started texting you and being like, is it hard for you to memorize all this? And you went, now it is. And I was like, God, you're so cocky about it. And then like two or three years in, if someone had asked me, I'd be like, yeah, I can do it in my sleep. You got it? I know it was a muscle. Yes. And then when you stop, it atrophies. It does. Because that's why I'm doing this podcast. I literally can't memorize anything anymore. I mean, it's so hard to memorize now. And I know that sounds so stupid, but I always say to people, think about, yeah, this isn't like acting is hard, but it is. But think about when you give a speech and you're in front of people and you have to memorize that speech. Now imagine 40 to 50 people standing, watching you do it, like drinking coffee, being like, oh, get the speech right. Please get the speech right. You're not at a wedding and it's not fun. It's like a job and everyone's like, please get it right. Like I'm tired and let it all slide. Yeah, also like long day or long week. And you're talking about at least 10 to 12 people that are like actively holding something heavy. It's right, they're holding something heavy. And like you see people's like, legs start shaking and you're like, I got to get this line. So if you gave a wedding toast that you had to memorize and all of your family were holding giant rocks, I bet you didn't get it right. Oh, man, Uncle Gary just had a knee surgery. I got to get this thing done. And when you don't get it right, they all put the rocks down and they're like, I guess we'll try it again. Okay, I can't get it right. No, but, but I, yeah, and but we would burn through just like you, like a lot of pages a day and you had to kind of just like figure out. But I would say having worked with you at SNL and also we had a really fun time with you and Maya were working on our fun. Oh my god, I'm baking it, I love it. I'm baking it. Like, but I will say, Andy, I think people don't know this about you is you're pretty meticulous when you work. Yeah. It's different than I think people would assume. How would you describe it? I mean, well, that was actually where I was starting to very slowly walk towards about Brooklyn, which was for me, I would prefer having like, and it was good for Andre too. Like, three to five alts that are very specific and not that we're just like, what are we gonna come up with? But where I'm like, I work with the writer on set, we had the Braddest staff, they were so funny and it would be like any time you get to a scene where we all feel like, you know that thing where you just feel like this joke's just a halfway there. Yeah. And then you'd like quickly scramble and then we would write out a bunch of alts, say it to each other, know that it's it and so like make it official one at a time as opposed to like, it's the sauce, you know, we're all like the soup. Yeah. Yeah. And then the other thing about me that I would agree with you is very meticulous as editing. You're very meticulous about editing and you get very serious when it comes to music. I do. (laughing) Like, you know, I remember us recording what I thought was kind of a goofball song and I remember being like, oops, like Andy's gotten quiet and serious and it was like, right, of course, 'cause you're professional and it is, it is. I mean, halfway, I don't know what I am. Well, I just love it. Yeah, you love it and you want it to be good. I do want it to be good. I want it to sound good. And I will say that you and Yorma and Akiva, the members of Lonely Island, like you guys came in in a way to that show that was super interesting because you wore your own island, literally, that came, you came in together with your own system that then had to kind of fit into the bigger SNL system. Yes. And those early days, like we, like you talk about it so well on your podcast, which I'm obsessed with and that's it. Thank you for being on it also. Oh my God, I love it and it's hilarious and I love how no one knows when you're recording and a lot of times you guys don't show up. Yeah, it's a mess. It's a mess. And check that out. That's my favorite part. But you go, you're going through all of the digital shorts. You're going through them one by one. And I love that I forget because it's like childbirth, like it all goes away, the pain part. Yes. I forget the grind of each one that you guys had. And so you guys were really into the grind. Yes. Do you remain into that grind? Are you asking if I stay on my grind? But you want to talk about that early grind? Yes. Because it's interesting. I don't think people would assume that from you. I mean, do I have the rise in grind mentality? No. My memory of you three was constantly being tired. Yep. Constantly wanting it to be better and better and better. Like what is your relationship to like perfectionism or like continuing to tweak and make things better? I think SNL was a struggle for us in that sense because that's not the name of the game there. But because we did pre-tap stuff and it was videos we could edit, we did get closer to it than a lot of people at that time, especially would have been allowed to. Again, though, I would watch people like you and Fred and Bill and Wig and Maya and like so many of our peers who were like, in my opinion, on a performance level, the cell was how amazing you guys were live. And the feeling of like, oh, anything could happen in this moment. Whether or not it was true because you guys are all precise as hell, too. But like the electricity of that was the thing that I felt like I didn't always have live, but that we could make work in a pre-tap with the correct editing and the right concepts. Do you know what I mean? I do. I would argue it's both and because I think that you do have a looseness as a performer that relaxes people and you just have to have it. And I think that's what's interesting about you as a performer is like, I do think there's a precision that's important to you, but you don't see it when you're performing. Sure. So that is hard to balance and it's just like, because you're right. There was, I mean, I remember learning from Will Farrell, like watching me like, oh, in this show, if you're having fun and you're relaxed, people relax and have fun, it is just that. And I mean, there's nothing harder than someone saying like, just relax. Yes. But it was true. If you could kind of zone out and kind of act like life is a dream. And you belong there. And you just make it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The audit, it would work. And the people that couldn't do that, we had a really hard time. Definitely. But I knew that you could do both. You could do that. And then you would go and edit for out, and you and Keevin. You would look at something. And you were zombies. And you were so tired. We were so tired. We also like, I mean, I talk about this a lot, which was, my dream was always to be on SNL. And then we got it, which was insane. Like I would have been good doing one season and getting fired, knowing I actually got to try doing the one thing I wanted. And then, first season, it went good, you know, which was really unexpected. We'd been doing fine the first half of that first season. You were there. We were like, figuring it out. I was figuring out how to present myself live. And I had done stand up, but like, what's the angle? How do you ingratiate the audience to you? And then that one video just went bonkers. And it was like, oh shit, okay. We arrived quote unquote early for how the show usually works, in my opinion. And then because of that, we were lucky, but also we immediately put insane pressure on ourselves. Because we were like, well, now we have to do things that do that. Like the, making the Narnia one was partly because it was a good sketch, but also just pure luck. Like the fact that it was the moment that people were like, there's this thing called YouTube. And the moment that people wanted to be like, SNL had this pre-tap and it looked like they shot it on their own. And that's interesting to us now. Right. And like, whatever the hell, confluence of things made it become a news story. I mean, when you are lucky enough like us to work long enough, you just keep making stuff that you think is good and that you want to watch. And then every now and again, it all kind of comes together for things that are out of your control. Right? You totally. That's so much of it is timing and being in the right place. Yes. And having the right people around you and being in the right era of SNL and all of that. So I'm having the right head writer who's supporting you and being a certain age where you're not whatever to older, to young, to handle it, all that stuff. Yes. Yes. But I would say, what is that? There's like some quote, like luck in preparation is the preparation problem. Let me look at one thing. Is the cure for hemorrhoids. Yeah. What is it? Like luck is the prepper, you know what I'm talking about. It's time plus, no, preparation plus luck is success or something. Is it? Is it? I feel like Wayne Gretzky definitely said it or it's who said it. Luck here ago. No, it was the Roman philosopher, Seneca. Luck is when preparation meets opportunity, dude. That's what it is. That's what it was. And sorry. What is it again? Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. So you had been for, let's see if we can memorize it. We're going to guard the cat. Oh, Seneca. Oh, Seneca, crazy bitch. Just like, dude, okay, he's a guy, gather up, dig on this, dude, dude, dude, I got it, I got it, I got it. It was like, what? You know, people are going to say this, Seneca, but that is an example of that. You guys were ready. You had been working together for a really long time. And look, similarly with, I mean, I say this all the time, which is, there is no better feeling than having some people in your corner at a place like SNL or anywhere where all to do almost anything, whether it's beyond SNL or it's like, go through hard times in your life or like, if you have a few people that can stand around you, like you can get through anything, you just need one or two or like, and the fact that you guys had each other, it was a dream. Yeah. I mean, how many folks were your friends with when you got hired? Well, I was really, I mean, Tina basically was like so instrumental in getting me hired and Dratch was there and so Tina and Dratch and I started together and like, they were and her new Horatio and I knew a lot of people kind of, but Tina and Dratch and I had known each other at that point, but you know, for 10 years and started together and that was huge. It makes a huge difference. To have, yeah, and I can't imagine coming in there. I know. Totally alone. Agree. And so many, like warriors came through and just kind of like blazed a trail or, you know, or didn't and did really well doing other things elsewhere. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Because it's a very specific thing. I do want to talk about Lazy Sunday for a second. I know you guys have talked about it a ton on your podcast, but I'll just tell you that, you know, that was part of a bigger Christmas show that a lot of people and listen to Andy's podcast because they break it down beautifully that episode. It's probably my favorite episode I've ever been on because of Jack Black was the host. Yeah. And it was 2004 and that was five, five 2005, my bad. And it was for me, far enough away from 9/11, which is when I started, which was like we'll never laugh again and not too close to me, you know, being pregnant and leaving. It was just like for me and the sweet spot of finally feeling like I knew what I was doing. Yes. And I can remember that moment, I remember being on the floor watching that thing and exactly what you said. And if the audience felt you could feel them going, this is a new, fun thing, we like these. We want more of them. It was wild to feel that. It was life changing for me. Yeah. I mean, it was, again, I can't stress how much we were not expecting that to be the reaction. Yeah. We were just trying to get things on the show. Yeah. So green, so new. I mean, we had not had an insane amount of experience before we got the show either. Like, you would have had a full show that I watched and loved, PS. I had seen you doing like UCB shows and knew who you were. There's a lot of people I think who get SNL, especially then that had like really, I mean, think about like when wig got hired, wigs audition had like five fully formed groundlings characters. That just and feral too, where you're just like, oh, they're ready for SNL period. Like they have been bred to their like Lionel Messy of SNL, you know, we're like from a child. They were like, this is my path that I'm doing as I own Will as an anomaly. He's like, I'm going to decide to be the funniest person on earth. But for me, I was like, I had done stand up on and off and we had made videos, which at that time didn't directly translate. We didn't get hired to do them. Right. Like, we had fun at the movie words writing with a bunch of SNL people and fall in and people and they were like, right, come play, come have hang out and do today. And we were like, okay. And then that one, we had done the one with forte with lettuce. And then that was lazy Sunday was the second one. And then it was like getting shot out of a cannon. And do you remember where you were when you got the call that you got the show and did a Kiva and you're gonna get the call at the same time or did someone get it first? No, I got it first. They flew me out, but it didn't tell me. But I flew with Bill and he knew, because Marcy Klein had told him he got it and he knew I got it. And he couldn't tell you. He couldn't tell me and he didn't tell me. Bless his heart. Bless his heart because I understand I would be afraid that I'd get fired if I told you or something. Yeah. He probably was like, this is great, right? And you were like, I guess he loves recounting it because we sat together on the plane and like had drinks. And I was like, I wonder what's going to happen. And he's like, I know what it's going to happen. You looking got to do. He didn't tell you. No, he didn't. But he could have. I'm saying he likes to talk about how he could have. Okay. But anyway. So then, you know, we got there and I had a meeting with Lauren because you have a meeting with Lauren. And Lauren didn't tell me. No, he never, he never hires or fires anybody. No. So I walked out of his office and I think it was like Jen or maybe shook us or people like that were there. And they were like, so. And I was like, I don't know. They're like, you got the show. Like they were the ones who told me. And then we went to a dinner, Lauren, that's what Lauren told me, we're going to have a dinner after this. So you should come. And I was like, okay. So I guess I'm still in the mix. And then they were like, no, you got the show. And so on the drive from from 30 rock to that dinner, I called my parents and we were all like crying and stuff. They were. And I mean, since I was eight, that was what I wanted to do. Andy. Yeah. That's so cool. Yeah. And then what was the stress codependently? I would be immediately stressed about a keep on your ass. Yes. They told them early the next week, it was like a weekend. So we didn't have to wait too long. But they had made a deal that if one of them got hired and not the other, that they wouldn't take it. Really? Yeah. That not two out of three of us would leave, but that if one of us got it, go with God. Oh, wow. Oh, that's so sweet. Yeah. Okay. We spend a lot of time together, sleepless writing nights. Yes. You have an interesting relationship with sleep. I do. And I love talking to people about sleep, but tell me your relationship to sleep. I love sleep until I had children. I would go to bed very, very late. I'm like textbook night owl. And when I worked at SNL, it was my dream job schedule as well because I would go to bed at like four in the morning and sleep until like two, three in the afternoon. And then I started dating a musician who had the exact same schedule and it was like perfect. And so I've only ever had one job that catered exactly to my preferred sleep schedule. And even now, like I love making movies and I love making the show and stuff like that. But you have to get up crazy early, like a normal person who has a normal job because most jobs start early and most people that are adults get up early. Right. So it's been a hard adjustment. Yeah. And now the kids, I mean, you know, we mentioned your wife, the great Joanna Newsom, incredible musician. Yay. I mean, I remember, I kind of remember, I was, I felt like I was around during a court chip. I remember specifically one night walking you home. We were all out at a bar and talking about how I just started dating her and you were awesome about it. And you're over heels right away. I was gone. And you remain. Like, you guys are really like what, like what, you know, you've been together now for 17 or 17 years. Yeah. We did some long time and healing relationship, like, I mean, you've called her your best friend basically. Yeah. Yeah. Say more about that. Like, like, I'm just lucky. What's it like to be with your best friend? It's fun. Yeah. It's really fun. Obviously, having kids changes things, because your responsibilities shift, your sleep schedule, but obviously a million other things. But it still feels like anytime there's a pocket of time where it's just us, it still feels like we're getting away with something like we're having a sleepover and it's fun and there's no one I would rather be hanging out with and chatting with. And it's, it's amazing. I'm, I feel really lucky to get to share my life with her. Yeah. But yeah, I remember that walk with you and talking about it and you going, I don't know, Sam, I gotta get feeling about this one. I always remember things you say, Amy. I mean, you guys were deeply, very quickly, like, twinkly, and you both have this thing that I think is really, like, I respect in both of you is like, your artist, you take your art seriously and you liked that about each other. Definitely. You really respected each other, really. Yeah. If you were, there's a difference between being like a fan of someone's work and like really respecting what they do. It's very different. I think a lot of people understood that from my perspective. I think some people at first were like, she likes that stuff that he does. But the truth is she, she doesn't did. And it's like her and her siblings are goofballs together in love comedy. Yeah. And it just, I couldn't believe my luck that that was the case. I feel like the mutual respect is the reason when you have a lot of years behind you. That's the thing that keeps couples together. Yeah. It's that you've ever heard of that got, is a famous therapist, couples, do you watch couples therapy? I don't. Oh my God, dude. Should we watch it right now? Yeah. Let's shut this down. I just finished and or. Yeah, bro, it was good. I'm sure it was. I watched the last of us, the exact opposite of and I watched love on the spectrum. I love love on the spectrum. Oh, cry so hard you and I like to cry. We do like to cry. We love crying. You know, I also love to cry. Seth Meyers as a figure, cry here and Seth Meyers was the person that I asked to ask you a question. Oh, so I earlier before you came in, I was zooming with Seth Meyers, who you know, you guys have a very, oh, by the way, dude, have you heard that Frisbee died? Don't even play because I'll be so happy. I will never back off that dog sucks, dude. And I know this is like, I know this is a good vibes cast, so I don't even want to bring that energy. You're right. I shouldn't have mentioned that dog. That dog is like a rat carcass. Seth wanted me to pretend that he died. I am trying to figure out what something special I can do when Frisbee does finally pass on. You should do like a memorial video. That's about how much that dog sucks, pretty funny, pretty funny. But Seth, you know, like your relationship is really fraternal and really supportive. I used to hear it on your podcast, you've seen it in real time, like, and his question was the one I asked you base. He wanted to know about the young, the little brother of it all, like what it was like being, you know, having sisters and being the little brother. But in many ways, I would say that the dynamic between the two of you is like older brother, younger brother. You would say. Yes. Right. But also because Seth likes to be in charge and in control. Right. And I do not. You don't? No. I like to be in control of what I make, but not of the situation. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's right. I mean, I can if I need to be. But the fun of it for me is not that. Right. The fun of it for it's always for me. I mean, I was like the diffuser in my family, you know, and youngest and get attention through being silly and making jokes and making people laugh and finding my spot that way. And, you know, it changes as it becomes your job. Yeah. But I feel like also like Seth's persona is, I know what's going on and I'm going to put everyone at ease and mine is like, you don't know what's going to happen, maybe. You don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. You might be like, not what you're expecting a little bit. That's my hope anyway. Yeah. Do you, have you ever taken like your anyogram test? Do you know your number? No. Have you taken any anyogram? Wait, this is different from the thing that being you texted about. Maybe I texted you to make you take it. I'm obsessed with it. I think we, numbers one to nine. Yeah, we did text about it. Did you, what was your number? Am I allowed to look at my phone and look at our old texts? What did we get? Because I made you take it. I think, I think that I had the same one as Tina and Seth as what you said. Yes. Okay. That's right. You were a three, the achiever. That's so sexy. Right. I mean congrats. But that's what I mean is the three isn't always the peacemaker. The three is like, but that's the three is a, we really will cut all this out because there's truly. Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is three. You said, this is three. Does this resonate? And you were like, hell, yeah. And I said, you're eight all day because I'm an eight. Yeah. And three is the achiever. So three is like, can be like, you like to hear a good job? I do like to hear a good job. Good boy. Good boy. Good job. Yeah. Your three is so big. You know what? And that's what she said. You know what's small is your four, which is so bad you've been like, yo, taking a little dick and I was like, hey, I was good, my god, I was sorry, this is what I heard. We were just in office before he came in watching the bachelors again because we're shanky, dinky. My name is Mark and I eat pork with a fork, but I'm not a jork, but I'll jork it. I'll jork it out the pork. Jork it out the pork is very proud of that. God, I love that. No one should have the best brothers on his orc. The best brothers, so many dumb, I mean, you love dumb fun, shit. Oh my god. Yes. You keep did that knowing it was for no one and we just loved making it so much. Yeah. Like, our friends that we grew up with were like, you guys made a whole visual poem, rap album about the best brothers? We're like, yeah. And you know, podcasters, we are talking about sports, which is exciting for people who don't know. The best brothers were Mark McGuire, Jose Can say good, very rumored at the time to be doing a lot of steroids and like, but it was like such an 80s rivalry and you guys just dressed up like them and wrote a million songs about it. It was so fun. It was so fun. By the way, the dream of that one was, I think there was a player at on the actual Oakland A's when it came out who like used it as his walk up music. Oh wow. And they like would play let's bash at the stadium at the Oakland Coliseum before they, you know, they're gone now. You know this, your sports. Yeah. That's why I remember when that happened. But and I got to tell you like, and I texted you about it the other day like, I'm still crushing it. Still, you guys still crushing like the anxiety short was so good on the 50th, such a funny and moving, funny and moving, which, you know, the fact that you had, you sung about how everyone had nervous diarrhea before they did every sketch and SNL. If these pipes could talk. If these pipes could talk incredible, incredible, what was it on the dolly when you were, when you were moving or was a camera moving on that. I was moving. That was a mic diva shot. He's a director there now who we're buddies with. That was his idea. And I was, when he showed me that back, I was like, oh, that's a good shot. So good. And then sushi gory hole, imagine that where you got sushi gory hole, imagine that instead of strange, you'd be getting a snack, and it's not high in fish, no doubt, hey, where you going? You hear us sound. So fucking good. Thank you. I mean, like every song you guys make is a, is a, is a pop is a song you want to listen to regardless of the comedy. But. Andy. Down, yeah. So good. And I just think there's so you've made so many good ones. But I just want to remind of where you like, you've been doing it for 20 years. Yeah. Sushi like so good. Thank you. So stupid. So stupid. Perfect. Yeah. A little bit dirty. Fantastic outfits. So good. Great ad at POV and attitude. They came with it. Was it any more fun? I mean, you talked about this on podcast, but was it, does it get any easier to make them now? Or is it harder to make them now? Yeah. These two. Both. Yeah. It gets easier because we've done so many. Yeah. Coming up with something we find interesting and funny becomes more difficult because we've done so many. Yeah. But that was one in particular where we had written a, Akiva had came up with the phrase sushi glory hole. I can't believe I'm treating this so seriously, but we should treat this like acting on acting. So I'm going to keep it for safe sushi glory hole. And what did God say and then we were at that point, we were just channeling. We giggled and I was like, yeah, we're not going to do that. And then he kept saying it and I couldn't tell if he was doing it as a bit like we should do that or if he actually wanted to do it. Right. So then after a while, I was like, you know what, fucking, let's try it. And we did a whole other version on a different beat and we hadn't come up yet with the idea of here us out over and over again. So then we were like, we kind of let it sit because we were like, it's okay. It just feels like AI doing a lonely island song or something. You know what I mean? I was like, it's like, we're wrapping and it's this and it's about a thing that you wouldn't wrap about. And we were like, yeah, I guess so. And then a couple of days later, because we just decided to go in the studio a lot at that time, he came in and played a different song. He had heard on the radio. I can't remember which one it was, but it inspired him. It was like a more modern song, something with ASAP Rockians and people on it. And we were like, oh, let's try it to a beat like that. And we did. And then because we switched the beat, it inspired the hear us out thing. And then once we did that, once we started doing the laugh, which is the right laugh, which you know, when you're in a room writing something, we were like, uh-oh, it's the laugh. We're having that laugh where we know we are officially into this idea, not just like this will be professional and technically up to snuff, where you're like, I now like this for sure. Yeah. Oh, we got to do it. Yeah. And then it was like, yeah, now we got to do it. And it opened up for us. That's a good example of you guys like, you don't, you want to keep going back. And I mean, Seth mentioned this when we were talking about earlier is like, there's like the improv bones version where like, sometimes we romanticize the first idea. And you guys don't do that. We're like, this isn't ready yet. This isn't right yet. Yeah. But if it's the bet, if it's really funny the first time, we don't fuck with it. Yeah. What was the fastest song you ever wrote, fastest digital short? You like came up with and did like, like, oh, from the minute you thought of it until you did it, it was super fast. It just came out. A lot of them were like that when we were working at the show. Yeah. Because the schedule is crazy. Yeah. So like, ladies and a, once we had the idea, it wrote in a couple of hours. Yeah. Natalie's rap. Same thing. Yeah. We wrote it in like, under an hour. It takes a long time to come up with the idea and then sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you're in the shower at home and you have a full idea and you come in and you go, I have an idea and then you just write it and it happens. Sometimes you have you dig in the box in the shower and then you come in and you're like, let's do it on the show. Digging the box was Norm's idea and it was, it took us a long time to decide what to write about because that was an assignment. It was like, Justin wants to do a song. I think of an idea to do a song with him. So we had met with him and we knew that we all had grown up listening to hip-hop and R&B in the early 90s. Yeah. And so we were like, maybe something in that area and then it was like, okay, but what's the premise? And then we struggled for a couple hours trying to think of something and then when your arm said that, we were like, oh, okay, go. There's so many digital shorts that I watch that I'm sad, I'm not in and this here's my gotcha question. Yeah. Oh, here it comes. I'm going to put my gotcha glasses on. Why aren't I in there? I feel like I didn't get asked to be in enough. Did you? I come short. Can I? I agree. What did I do? I don't know. My brain has a theory and maybe it's just protecting me. You were already doing update. Let's start that. The theory is you guys shot a lot of stuff on Fridays and we would have to read update jokes on Friday and I feel there were times where it was very like we need someone quick to do this thing and I was not availed. But there's so many shorts where I'm like, damn, I wish I could be in that. I also wish that. You don't understand. I also think Amy, like, it's a good lesson learned for me. It's and for anyone in any field. I think we often were like, we don't want to bother her. I can't believe it. But it's true. I mean, you were in like 10 sketches every week and update. I'm such a fan of those shorts so much and I definitely watch them sometimes, sometimes in a way. Man, I wish I was in them. So I guess what I was hoping is like maybe we could do some kind of like Zemeckas style. Oh, put you back in them. Put me back. Oh, we're going to gump it. Full gump. We'll just do some D-A-J and we'll go back. Wait. So can I got you a question back? Yeah, got you a question back. These are not got you questions. I know. And mine's not got you. Got you back. Can you think which ones are the most? Name. I can name five. I wish I was in so bad. Oh, my God. Dick in the box for sure. Right, of course. I mean, of course. Dear sister. I was like, oh, I fucking love that one. But do that shoot sucks. I did suck. It was all night. We were at the flat hotel till like six in the morning. I know. I remember when we were six. That's another reason we're like, we're not going to ask Amy to come. Do that. You know, and like also for every one of those, there was like five that we did at flat hotel till four in the morning. That we're so bad. And I love you guys talking about that. I love you guys talking about that. And you got to be honest. If it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm not. I mean, that's what's so funny about about the stuff that we do is like nobody remembers the 10 to 1 versions of things that were just stankers always crazy stuff. Stuff where I was mad that it would get cut. And then I would go back and be like, oh my god, there's nothing here. I was just running on fume. It's like, why was I so mad? It was just because like, it was literally as much as like, I want to be on the show too. At least by being I wrote a scene one night that we thought was so funny and it was just about these two giant trucks, truck drivers who would come up next to each other and keep telling the other one a honk it. Yes. And it was like, honk it, honk it, and just telling the other one a honk it. And we were like, oh, we're dying. And we turned it in like, you know, 8.45 AM. And she was like, we're not doing honk it. And we were like, what? We were to be too sure. She was like, we can't we can't produce honk it. We can't get to giant like, you know, you know, we can't get to cabs. And also like you guys, we were like 35 sketches over and like you can send it 8.45. And it's like, and we were like, just as for honk it, like we are still we're so mad. So just to be clear, you're not going to let us read honk it. Okay. Okay. I'm looking forward to having an employer that support honk it. Fucking noted. Looking forward in the future, working with somebody who understands honk it and what it means to us. Oh my God. Speaking of what we watch and listen to, yes, I ask my, I ask my guess now, what are you watching listening to doing that's making you laugh? Making me laugh, making me feel good, making me check out, what are you like? How do you, you know, how do you, oh, well, this is loaded, but I saw the new naked gun. Okay. Talk about it because it looks so good. It's really funny. Okay. So obviously it's directed by Kiva and Corrin by Kiva and he's my bestie. But it, I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true. It's really fucking funny. It's just the people I've talked to that have come and watched screening so far have kind of a similar reaction which is it's just all jokes. Yeah. It's been so long since something new got made. Yeah. That was just purely trying to make me laugh. And it's in that style, but it's also updated and Liam's amazing and Pam's amazing and Kiva did a great job. The writers with him did a great job. Dan and Doug. I mean, it's, it's just joyful. It feels really fun. How important was it like naked gun and airplane to you growing up? Big. Same. I love the realistic, um, cartoony live action stuff. I love money Python, those PUE later strangers with a candy like things, things like that where you bend the world and make it be whatever you want it to be. You know, we all watched like Hollywood shuffle and I'm going to get you suck at all those movies. Anything like that where it was like you could actually have like a giant thing fall through frame and no one will acknowledge it or something. I remember like the character on naked gun that was really tall, that was always out of frame. Yes. And you've never saw it at the top of him. My God. It's my favorite joke. Are you going to say the same joke? Is it the banana? Yes. That's my favorite joke. Oh my God. Let's watch it. Ever. And there'll be plenty of time to do it too. Get something in the side of your mouth out. No, no, no, the other side. It's like half a banana. Can you imagine how and no one reacts and then talking about new projects, Digmin is coming back. Yes. That is you created that right. Yeah. With Neil Campbell. Tell like during during the pandemic was like, you know, we were all bound to the home and I was like, I've had this idea for a really long time and I'd been talking to him about it. He's a writer on was a writer on Brooklyn 99 and a much other stuff. And we had been kind of wanting to make it forever. It's basically like shitty Indiana Jones, the animated show, right. And it's the show is so fun. It's so and what a cast. Mecha. Yeah. Mecha's the best meadows. Timmy Robinson. Yes. It's a really good group. And it's just like if you like jokes and goof ass comedy, it really scratches the edge. You do a lot of animated stuff. Do you like it? I love it. I love it. Growing up, I loved it. Like the first time I got asked you like a voice in an animated movie, I was just like, yes. How, where do I go? Do your kids ever watch your stuff and do they hear your voice? My daughter watched a couple of the hotel Transylvanias. Yeah. And liked them. Yeah. Did she recognize your voice in them? Kinda. Yeah. It's cool. My kids are not to a place yet where they like that I'm in the thing. No. My children don't like to watch. Do they ever get to that point? Not really. Think of your mom and then think of watching your mom do inside out, but by the way, congrats on all your success. Congrats on all your success. Insight out. Insight out too. Congrats on your success. I heard it crested a billy. You got points. Have we been in an animated movie together? I don't think so. We might have been. For how much? We do a lot of animated movies you and I. For how? I'm just saying Amy, generally speaking, for how much I, I mean, I'm speaking on your behalf. How much we love each other and our friends. I don't think we have actually done that much together. You know, you're so right. That's fucked up. I mean, I put in my contract, you know? Yeah, understood. Wait. Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. I got fired from that. What? Oh, yeah. I was the original gal in Cloudy with a chance of meatballs. What the whole fuck? And I was fired because I did not do a good job. And they had the odd job today to replace me. I hardly, hardly believe that. No, we have not been in an animated movie together. That's so funny. Even we have not done enough stuff together. I'm even trying to think of like at the show, to me, if you ask me to pick like the things that stood out the most to me of me and you being together on stage at SNL, the two that immediately come to mind are the Palin rap. Yes. And I'm an angel. Wow. Two pregnancy, peak pregnancy performances. But both all timers. I mean, I remember asking for your help when we were writing that Palin rap and you gave me some nuggets, including the, have been her hubby come out there. Oh, is that my idea? I think you gave me that idea of him coming out. That makes me feel better. And I was saying, we were talking about it on ours and I was saying I felt bad because I gave you some line that was like kind of like tricky rhyme scheme, but wasn't a laugh. And then I was like, why did I do that? Well, I mean, something like so much something between us need to go between. It was that line. I feel like, 'cause Sadekus came out as Todd. Todd? Yeah. Andy, I love you so much. I love you, buddy. It was an absolute pleasure. It was such a pleasure. Like I said at the very beginning of this, the fact that I was getting to talk to you today, just like, so calming, I wasn't the least bit stressed, I never am when I'm with you. That's so nice saying. I love spending time with you. You too, buddy. And I will say not to keep hitting it over and over. It's still not an old thing for me to hear you say nice things about my comedy. I really enjoy your comedy. It makes me feel good and happy because you are one of the people I've aspired to and looked up to. And I love you so much. And I love your comedy so much. Andy, thanks, buddy. You're the best. Yeah. Oh, I wanted to show you this pen before we wrapped this. I found this on the desk today. Yeah. And it is one of those crinkle pens. Have you seen it? Oh, boy. Do you know what it is? Is it going to collapse when I flip the switch? No. Just give her a little twist on the top. Are we edging on ASMR right here? Yeah, that's exactly what we've been doing. Does that sound nice? Is this nice? Is that what ASMR people ask? Yeah, I think. It's so hard. How can it's so pervy? It's so pervy. Oh. Don't. Yeah. How dirty do we get on the spot, guys? Very, very, very. No matter what you do, don't masturbate to the sound. You better. You better not. You better not. Don't you dare masturbate. It's dirty. And even though it probably feels so bad, I hope you're wearing bows, no, he's canceling headphones. But be careful because someone could walk in and you won't hear them. If you start doing that, I'm going to use my hair brush and I'm going to brush your hair later. I hope I don't accidentally click my long nails on the window pane. All right. We did it. We did it. Cool pen. Thank you, Andy. That was really, really fun. That was such a good hang. And I felt like we went all over the place in a good way. And I'm so happy you did it. So thank you. You know, Andy brought up a lot of digital shorts. And I guess for this polar plunge, I just wanted to remind you to check out Shai Rani again, one of my favorites. It's just if you haven't watched it lately, the digital short, Shai Rani with Rianna. And that is how she pronounces her name. It's so funny. I just feel like the character and the look, it's just wig work at its best. It's just a beautiful ginger wig and a really funny idea. And it's a really good song, like all of the songs it only I'm going to make. So that would be what I'm going to be watching this week to laugh. And in the meantime, keep laughing, I don't know. I don't know how to, I really don't know how to end these, just they just get harder and harder. Okay, bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weissberman, and me, Amy Poler. The show is produced by The Ringer and PaperKite, for The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spalane, Kaya McMollan, and Alayah Zeneres, for PaperKite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weissberman, original music by Amy Miles.