Andy Cohen's Favorite Podcast: Monday, October 26th, 2026

♪ Good morning girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jax and Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Monday from Andy Cohen's favorite podcast. Hey Jax, how you doing? I'm darn good knowing that I didn't watch that clip because I don't have the heart for it. If you guys don't know what we're discussing, it will be discussed in our second story. So just hang on. Hope you guys have a great weekend. I think maybe I'll watch it on the show just to get a live reaction. Familiarize myself with the subject matter. But when people send me stuff like that, like, oh, people are talking about you. And someone told Andy Cohen what you said about him being moody, like out of context, like, let me tell you, I have no interest. I don't want to get into it yet because it's kind of a layered emotional thing. So we will talk about it in the second story. But just know like something crazy happened to us this weekend. Okay. Just know that. Regarding Andrew Cohen. If you guys don't know what we're talking about, like it'll be in the second story. Not regarding the other thing. No, something crazy did happen to us. But unfortunately, we can't talk about it just because like, it involves other people. But like, we were basically like asked to leave a kid's Halloween party. And it was devastating. We weren't asked to leave like, we were not. We can't, we actually can't even talk about it. Like it's so high level. But just know like our weekend was literally ruined. Not us like all in costume. I was actually like on my way yesterday, I would say before like 2.30pm on my way to having a near perfect weekend. Like and I was I was thinking about like, wow, what a great weekend. You know, until we were asked to leave. Like, I can't even talk about it. It's like so high level. But just know like, a near perfect weekend. Like seriously, I don't mean to be one of those like clickbait YouTubers, but like my Uber driver almost killed me. You know, like it was insane. Yeah, it was. Just to leave the children's Halloween party. But the rest of the weekend was really party. Of course. I actually didn't see you on Saturday because you were observing the Sabbath. I was. And we've been our separate ways. And I'm so glad I was observing the Sabbath because if I wasn't, I would have seen that Andy Cohen video in real time when it happened. I saw it after I enjoyed a beautiful Sabbath with my family. And you know what? That's what the Lord was protecting me from. Honestly. I saw it. I was getting my hair blown out. I was sitting in the chair. I literally brought my hand to my mouth. And then I put my phone down. I had a very physical reaction to I got like a stomach. Of course. Yeah. Like I had to go potty. And the first time someone sent it to me, it was like a TikTok. So I was like, well, unfortunately, I can't watch it. But it did make its way to Reels. It made its way to Reels. I started watching it. I was like, no, thank you. I went back to reading my book while I got my hair blown out. I'm reading Calamity Club. It is very good. Oh, good. And we're starting a book club, which means you'll be reading it for my book club. Yeah, I have been invited to the book club. I feel that I want to be there. And here's the thing. Here's the thing about the book club. Like I'll be there if. If Olivia goes, because Olivia is like, well, I'm going to read it. Olivia has not read a book since high school. She has not. If she actually I asked her yesterday, I'm like, are you going to the book club? She said, yeah, if that bitch goes, of course I will go. And so I'm like co-leading this book club with a friend of mine. And I think we have a strict like you have to have read the book rule. You don't even have to say that. I just want to say if I didn't read the book, no offense. I'm not coming. I want to hang out with you guys all talking about something. I like go to a book club, but we don't read the book. Oh, my God. I hate that shit. That's not a book club. That's just dinner. Like make dinner. No, no, no. When my book club, which, you know, is no longer shout out, rest in peace to the Bala Busta book club. It wasn't even a question. And if somebody was there, like reading the last five pages, it was like extremely frowned upon, but we allowed it. Like not even. I'm sorry. I will be shocked if Olivia reads the book one because she doesn't read. Like, does she even know how to read? I know. Unclear. No, I know. I mean, she has a job. So like I would say, yeah, because she has to read emails and stuff. OK, so she can read. That's good. But Calamity Club is really long. It's a big book. It's a big book for her to get. She doesn't read much. She never read the things we know about the light. Like, yeah, she didn't read the fun ones. She's like just coming in hard for the big one. She's going to hate it. I'm telling you. So if Olivia doesn't go, I feel like I don't have to go. But if Olivia goes, of course I have to go. OK, so Olivia, if you're watching this, it's like sort of all the success of the book club like really rests on your shoulders. But I would say like if you plan to maybe come like you should start the book soon. Well, I will know the week of if Olivia is going to make it. Week of might not be enough time for you. Like for me, it will be for Olivia. It won't. That's what I'm saying. So I'll know if Olivia hasn't read it. And then none of my sisters are coming to my book club. No. And like maybe if you had chosen like an easier book for the first book club of your like inaugural book club. We decided to choose a book that is good. Well, that's what you get. You know what I mean? That's what you get. It's known to be good. The other girl I'm doing with was almost done with it. So she's like, we should just do this book. It's so good. And I really wanted to read it. And I can only read so much in one month. I'm in another book club, Redheads. Of course. Kind of a famous one. Of course. Very well known. Redheads is definitely having a moment right now. Don't you feel that the toast is having a moment? I feel like it's always important to acknowledge our moments between like the Golden Globes and now Andy Cohen. That's true. I think the Golden Globes like definitely helped. I'm more so recognized when we're in like a flop. Oh my God. It's all I think about. But I feel that it's important to recognize both your highs and your lows. And if I've been acting different, it's because of the Golden Globes. It's not because you're pregnant. Oh, well, obviously, because I'm a woman and I'm highly emotional. And I shouldn't get access to the nuclear buttons. She's hormonal. No, it definitely has to. In my personal life and in my professional life, if I have been acting different or like a little rude, it's because I'm on the short list to be nominated. And I feel that I've earned that right. And I think I'm like an amazing celebrity podcaster. But to be truly validated by an organization as stellar and beautiful as the Golden Globes, yeah, it's made me into a little bit of a diva monster. A nightmare. Yeah. I just want to say it hasn't changed me at all. I don't know if I actually agree with that. You think it's changed me. Yeah, and I've actually been meaning to talk to you about it. Tell me more. I feel that it's given you this sort of beautiful confidence. That maybe you didn't once have. I'm very not confident. Yeah. Very not. Shy. I am shy. Not on this podcast. You're not shy. But I was actually just remarking on this with a friend. How like shyness has really plagued me most of my life, making friends, etc. And recently I've noticed that I'm not really that shy anymore. And I'm not really awkward anymore. It's kind of nice. You know, I would say I wouldn't consider you a shy person like at all. Yeah, no. I don't know like when that happened because like so much of my life was marked by shyness. Don't you know? You know, like high school. Even like when I went and then when I went to my teen tour. Well, the teen tour was plagued with other issues. No, but it's really like shyness and like awkward. Like I was always just like thinking about like dynamics and like what do I say? And even when I went to college, like my friends, like I made my friends in the first two months of college. And then once I became close with them, I wasn't shy. But like they would definitely say like. Categorize you as shy. Like coming in, you know. Yeah. That she was like the quiet one. I feel like giving birth vaginally like sort of. Mans you up. It does. Because like you can't be. You can't be like. You can't be like legs spread with a room full of strangers screaming your head off like. And be shy. You know? Yeah. No, I wasn't shy about that. But I think motherhood has made me. I think a lot of people feel that because you have to like make new friends. No, and also just made me like more confident. Yeah. Look at me. La-di-da. And I'm actually. I'm actually quite. I would say I'm quite like a social lubricant actually. The quite opposite of awkward. Okay, lubricant. Because I was just talking with my friends. Because we're always talking. And I feel like most like women our age are talking about. Like making new friends now. Yes, there is like certain stages of your life. Like of course like the first day of high school. But also like low key when you become a mom. It's like kind of everyone's starting over. Yeah. Or like moving to the burbs. One of my friends is about to move to the suburbs. And like she's like. Where do I? What do I do? Like and I'm just like you know what? And first of all like you were always cooler than me. And I'm actually having a fine time. You're going to be great. Oh, it's kind of like high school hierarchy being flipped. The nerds are cool. And the cool people are nerds. That's funny. No, it's like all the social skills I've learned over the years have really come in handy. And I just find them. I'm very like welcoming. I feel like you're. Non-awkward person. You're really like a telltale sign. Like it's never too late. It's never too late. To become a redhead or to become a social butterfly. Yeah, it's true. And just because. Or a redheaded social butterfly. You've been shy or you've been awkward. Like it can. You can grow out of it. And this is my advice for people who are shy. Somebody who's not shy. Like just don't be. You know. It's actually. We're having the 22 jump shoot effect where like I was shy. And now I'm not. And you were not. And now you are. I'm not shy though. And I like. I'm reclusive. Yeah. That's different. Like if somebody wants to talk to me. Like yeah, I could talk. But please don't. Like I'm not shy. I'm not like worried or thinking. What are they thinking? I don't give a fuck. Who are you? I don't want to be spoken to or invited to things. I'm a recluse. Okay. I'm in my recluse era while you're in your butterfly era. Okay. That's fine. I just. I like wonder what. What comes next. Maybe you're cocooning until you're a butterfly. Sure. Sure. Just like. Like nesting. Our butterflies in Hampton. Like nesting. No. Cocooning. But like. Like nesting. Because I'm pregnant. Yeah. I was pregnant too. Nesting. And you were nesting by the way. You were not a social butterfly when you were pregnant. I was a butterfly. No. You weren't. No. When you're pregnant with kids. Thank you. You can't. No. You can't recluse. Oh. Watch me. Like I'm actually mastering the art of being a pregnant recluse with children. We have a little baby. Little baby. It's true. I actually have a newborn. Yeah. A lot of people don't realize I just gave birth. Like when you've got like bigger kids. Play with their dad. Mama's a recluse. So yes. Other than that. So I didn't see you on Saturday. But we had a lovely time. We did. It was a great weekend. Oh and we went to a party Saturday night. It was my favorite theme of our favorite. We went to a famous couples throughout history Halloween party. We got invited to a Halloween party and it was like literally the greatest theme of all time. It's famous coupling. So it was like pairing. So it didn't have to just be like lovers. Romeo and Juliet. You could also be like peanut butter and jelly. Right. Right. Right. So Zach and I were. He was like. was our favorite costume. He was Dallas Cowboy, Dak Prescott, and Iowa. was DCC. So cute. So cute. Good costume. Yeah, the kids are excited. Of course. But it was just a great theme, and we're always saying. That's not the Halloween party that you were asked to leave. No, no, no, no. I was very much welcome there. I just want to clarify. And then our Toast-a-ween. Toast-a-ween? Oh, I meant to tell you two things. One thing. Toast-a-ween this Friday, you guys. Yes. It's like countdown to Toast-a-ween. Countdown to Toast-a-ween. But also, we have a guest coming on the show this week. I forgot to tell you. Ben Soffer needs to stop by. He has major news to share, and he's actually giving the exclusive. Really? Yeah, he said, can I come on the Toast? And I said, no. And he said, but I have to tell everyone X, Y, Z. I said, oh. Mouth me? Is it? Yeah. Yeah. So he'll be here. Worth the announcement. We can have him here. Yeah, exactly. I thought it was worthy. And he was like, I said, we can record your segment. And as I come, because tomorrow he's coming to the studio. I was like, after the Toast, why don't you come? We'll record. He was like, oh, you don't want me for the whole episode? And I was like, no. Yeah. I love that. And I think we'll put it maybe on Wednesday or Thursday. What do you think? And then Friday, of course, Toast to Ween. OK. Sounds good to me. I like Toast to Ween being on a Friday. We need to consider something. I forgot. We do need to consider something. Are you thinking the same thing? Yes, of course I am. Yeah, right, right. Yeah. We're so annoying. We'll discuss what it is, but I didn't even think about that. We're so annoying, but all will be revealed on Friday, you guys. All will be revealed. We're being annoying so that you can have a good time on Friday. Yeah. Just know that. It's really not that crazy. The English language? No, no, no. It's like, maybe it's from Traders or something. Maybe. Joey Grazia Day and Ian Starling in the tent. It's so commercial for Juergens narrated by Ian Starling. He's obviously like making bank. Oh, so I have to go buy Juergens then. Correct. I will buy anything Ian Starling tells me to buy. Hugh wrecked. And Juergens is a good product. It is a good product. This is not a McDonald's. We're not getting a Juergens. Is there a McDonald's ad today? No, you guys. I'm in my Saint-Tropez era of self-tanner, but I went through a Juergens era. It was during my shy era. I'm in my Beauty by Earth. Beauty by Pete Stray. Yeah. I'm in my organic tanner era. Although every now and then, like once every two weeks, I go salty face because I just need to feel something and I've just stopped caring as much. Beauty by Earth is great. I was on the Beauty by Earth grind for over a year. Like, it's fantastic stuff. Agreed. If you're looking for like a super clean alternative for your pregnancy or just life. Or Beauty by Earth. Or breastfeeding. Like, and you just want like clean tanning product, Beauty by Earth. It's good. The smell for a pregnant person, but even like a lay person, is not, is different than the other. And do you have to rinse it off? I forget. Yeah, it works just like any other. It works just like any other. They're rinsing off. I have to stay up so late. Oh, well, I only really do my face and a splash of water, you know? Oh, no. I like, so I'll take my shower at like 7.38 and then I have to stay up to like 10.30. Why don't you sleep in it? Well, couple things. I don't like like smelling it all night and feeling it. Of course, in the sheets. And then also when the kids come to bed, I don't want to make them orange. And I just would rather have a great night's sleep and be a little less tan. That's what I'm personally dealing with. Oh, well, what I'm personally dealing with as it pertains to sleep is like I've sort of had this complicated relationship with my pregnancy pillow. Like, I've been sleeping with it and my sleep is awful. So the other night, like I slept without and I slept amazing. So I'm like, okay. But then like last night, I just really needed the support. You know, I just don't know how to sleep. You're not feeling supported. No, I'm not. Coupled with the fact that a little mosquito bit me right on my shoulder blade, like where I can't reach, like really, truly cannot reach. It was kind of a night from hell. He gives his hardest battles to his strongest soldiers. And I will say, I am not one of God's strongest soldiers. Like I never claimed to be. I would argue I'm like one of the weaker ones. You would actually argue the other side of that quote, like God only gives you what you can handle. Not even, I can't handle what I've been given. I'm deeply unwell. I had a nightmare last night about, about the Masked Singer. Like I, I'm going through a lot. I had a dream last night that I got too skinny. Oh, she's sick. I can't even talk to her. Like that's insane. No, but it was. Meanwhile, I'm having nightmares inside the Queen Corky costume. No, but, and it was like, it was strange. It was like only my arms were so skinny, but like my belly was still there. Kind of a nightmare. That's like such a life. Like that is like the most real dream ever. Kind of a nightmare. You never get it all. You know, you don't get skinny arms and a skinny belly. Which one would you rather have? Skinny arms. I think I would too. I'm showing my arms more than my belly. Right. Bellies are easier to hide. Bellies can be hidden. Yeah. I've never been like a crop top aficionado. No, even before I had kids. Right. I'm a modest woman. Even when I was super snatched, like it never occurred to me to even purchase one. Yeah. No, or maybe like a crop top with a high waist, but not like. High leggings, yeah. Not showing midriff. No, that's never been my thing. You know, maybe like an inch, but it's like not midriff. It's just rib. Underboob. Yeah. That's like, that's the most fit part of my stomach. That's the hack. Like that's not actually wearing a crop top. One thousand percent. You know, if you know, you know. What are the stories like today? I'm going to find out during the opening. Oh, okay. No, no, no. There's actually like a couple like big stories and then like a bunch of little stories. So it's like, which of the little stories do I want to pick? Right, because it was Bravo Fan Fest this weekend, which a lot of stories came out of, and I'm not entirely sure what that is. Is that BravoCon? No. There will be BravoCon. Yes. But it's October. No, I know. And BravoCon's usually around the November, October month. I thought they got sued for using the name BravoCon and now we're calling it Bravo Fan Fest. I think they have a lot of success with BravoCon. So like they do these like mini activations. This one was in Charleston. Was it? Yeah. And it was a month before BravoCon? BravoCon is next October. Oh, so we're not having BravoCon this year. Oh, interesting. We have our Bravo Fan Fest. Bravo Fan Fest. Bravo Fan Fest. Well. I think that is interesting. It is. You think it's the recession indicator? I don't know. I just think we have Bravo Fan Fest in lieu of BravoCon. But this is not the first one this year that they've done where like they get a bunch of Bravo lovelies together for like panels and Q&As and stuff. Yeah, but sometimes it's like just specific to a region or something. Like this felt like everyone on Bravo. It did. And sometimes it's like an upfront. Right. We know that. We know that. Yeah. This felt like rebranded BravoCon. I wonder if Andy loves or hates BravoCon. Like the actual doing. I'm done speculating on how he feels about things. Well, the thing is. Lest one of you tell him. Well, the thing is about Andy is given what happened over the weekend, I feel actually that I know him better now. You don't watch a video. We'll watch it in the second story. So everybody, in case you like didn't have the pleasure of watching that. Stay tuned for the second story. Check the timestamps. We'll give you all the details. Let's do Bravo first story. I don't think the first story is any bigger than the second story. 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we're just gonna get through it so bravo fan face fan face took place this weekend um lots of news coming out of it but we need to start with the one about ourselves the one about ourselves so when i turn on my phone on saturday night like 400 people had sent me this video andy does the segment at bravo con he does it i guess at fan fest it's called ask andy where it's like pretty much just like no holds bar ask me whatever you want a lot of times people do ask insane questions and i'm like oh my god i'm so excited i'm so excited i'm so excited i'm so excited i didn't expect the question that was the most insane to be about us where a person basically asked andy we'll play the clip for you but they were like do you know the toast podcast with claudia and jackie ashrae and he was like yeah i do which like first of all okay um the questionnaire went on to say you know they often remark on you being in a bad mood like how do you feel about that what's your take like do you agree um and i will say we'll play the clip for you in a minute i will say i was really unexpected i was shocked by his answer okay it could have been an unexpected opportunity for him to be like so nasty and so rude because like it's his event everyone there fucking loves him whatever he would have said like against us everyone would have been like yeah yeah yeah and he really took the high road okay let's listen to it are you familiar with the podcast the toast with jackie and claudia ashrae so they're always quick to call you out for being in a bad mood on watch would you like to give them a response great answer great answer especially because i do feel like the question was set up like in a snarky way of course like and i feel like i never would have asked the question i wish the question was never asked but if you're gonna ask it like there are ways to set him up to be like do you think that's funny or there was it was kind of demanding a snarky response and he did not take the bait and i feel that i am seeing andy through a completely new lens and of course when i thought i wanted to die like my butt literally just clenched because first of all who am i like i'm always in a bad mood like it's just sometimes i forget that like people listen to this show and like i know i get the numbers from dear media every month it's literally like tens of millions of people i know but like i do sometimes just like forget and it's like annoying it's an annoying thing for me to say like that we say that about him yeah like i could see him thinking that's annoying and it's like like fuck off you know like i guess so but we're doing like our job of commentating on his show and we're supporting his show and we watch everything no of course i don't know when people like does anybody else feel like claudia's like off today it's like such an annoying thing to say so the fact that like i like said that like i want to die um having said that his response really surprised me because like i said he really could have like gone there and people would have loved it and ate it up like people love that at bravo con when they boo lisa rena like they could have started booing us you know like the fact that he didn't take the bait which was like so clearly like trying to start stuff and his answer like was good like yeah like i'm enough and yeah they are pretty much the only show sometimes they're not live but for the most part they do live like it's a live show and like things happen and it's like i don't know i really respected the answer and like now i'm kind of like a bigger fan than i was before oh i'm glad yet i respect the answer um i think do you want to talk about the questioner well like here's what i'll say i don't want to go in because apparently she's a fan even if she doesn't sound like one um what happens on this show it's private days on this show you guys and if you plan to like bring it to the people that we're talking to like you're gonna have to give a world of context that you don't have time for in a q a like don't do it in the name of swirlitude like yeah don't if you feel that way how about you stand on your own two feet and say that i feel as though you are moody on watch what happens live you treat every guest differently depending on their level of how successful they are and like what show they're on and that's just what we say like and and i just feel like we deserve privacy i completely agree like this goes against our brand ethos and the comments on because i got tagged in the tiktok a thousand time the comments were like claudia jack you're gonna hate this like so you know and so you knowingly went against toast ethics um and you didn't even get what you were like clearly trying to to get which is like drama starting no there was no drama if anything like i'm laying my arms down like i'm going i'm going easier on andy like he's a person going through it and you know what i have i said this and i'll say it again like i do feel like his mood swings he talked about it on that hoda podcast or like that tv show thing um that like he had seen feedback from the audience in these like focus groups that like andy's attitude was like a little negative and i also feel like he's at a really happy place in his life just like being a dad and in a happy relationship that like that comes through now i feel i don't feel that he's so snarky and rude anymore but there was like a couple of years where it was really bad um so i don't actually feel that way anymore but um i don't like i don't like this no i do not like this all in the name of swirlitude like please no just leave us out of it like ask your question and leave us out of it we're not there to defend ourselves and and to explain what we mean that's true we're not there to defend ourselves so just like this is not something we said once like this is a conversation we have a lot about like his disposition and we go through the show and we go through the show and we go through the show and specific episodes it's not like i'm just like he's moody like i'll watch the episode of i'll watch the episode of tv i'll watch the episodes of watch what happens live it does feel like things get rushed people can't finish their sentences there's too many games like and he doesn't want to listen to what someone's saying because he's worried about moving the show on the commercial break and like he's just a businessman running his show but like it does affect the viewing experience and sometimes there are guests who don't like get the vibe and are rude and maybe deserve a little bit of like an anti-attitude but for the most part it's people who are really excited to be there so like yeah i feel that you took a comment out of context and andy could have taken the bait and he didn't and he kept it positive and i think that's really nice yeah and people who we speak about on the show are not supposed to hear what we say unless they're genuine fans and right unless you listen all the time and you take all of it together jesse draper exactly but if you're not like don't come because if someone just said this about you someone just said what we said about jesse draper on an episode where we didn't agree with her anything and she only heard that she would have no idea that we actually like all the time and we have a disagreement about one thing excuse me you have to read my novel jesse draper Andy Cohen, when I was growing up, was probably my biggest role model ever. I wrote about it in my book. I wrote a huge paper in college about him. When I got on Watch Time is Live as a bartender in 2017, was it the year I got married? No, I think it was 2016. Were we dating? No. No, I was just an influencer. We were not. So maybe 2015, 16. When I tell you it was the best day of my whole life, I'm only recently coming down from the high of it. So please, you didn't include any of the context. I've literally devoted my life to Bravo. And so we just sound like haters. Yeah. And we've devoted our lives to Bravo. Professionally and personally. Yes. I've been watching literally Bravo season one Housewives. Everybody here, did you watch a new episode? Please. I was there when nobody else was. It lacks context. It's just, I'm upset. I'm upset. Yeah. And now that's what he thinks of us. Yeah. And that's not the case, actually, whatsoever. It's just not the case. So that's unfortunate that he's going to think, oh, these girls don't like him. When literally no two people have supported all of his endeavors, really. Inadvertently. Talking shit or not, that's support. I feel the same way about people who don't like us, who are talking about us all the time. Thank you for your support. You guys know, like the night that Hilary Duff snubbed me in the Bahamas Casino, me and my friend group also ran into Andy Cohen and he was, it was like the polar opposite. Like Hilary Duff couldn't have been meaner to us. And we were like, literally left feeling so upset. I've still talked about it to this day. And then not one hour later, Andy Cohen was there. And we were, I want to tell you, me and my friends were watching Bravo. Like when we were 12, like we freaked out. Like they could have sent, it's like the Lord, we were our biggest. It was like Hilary Duff, like crushed our dreams. And so the Lord was like, who can I send to fix it? And they sent Andy. He was so nice. He was like drunk and having so much fun and he like thought we were so great. So please don't, I have history here. I feel sick about this. I really do. Now it could have gone so much worse. I will say, and for that, I'm grateful to Andy, but I am sorry for the part of the part that I played. I feel that you probably don't understand fully what we've said about it because it's not something that can be summed up in a one ask Andy Q&A. Yeah. And I'm sure like for every episode where we had this. I had that feeling like there's a story there. Like he would be like, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. This one did that. And this was going like this. And I would actually love to. Yeah. It's tea. It's tea. It's not just like a broad judgment. Well, maybe he was on this period. Maybe. Are you ready for more Bravo FanFest stories? So we got a summer house teaser trailer with people are flipping because Kyle Cook and Sierra Miller are kissing in the trailer for summer. House. Yeah. They play spin the bottle. They played spin the bottle. And then they felt like it was overdue. And like, that's funny. And that's what summer house should be doing. Like you're young people all living house. You're supposed to all be making out with one another. Yeah. And obviously like the two of you have a lot in common shared trauma. I guess so. But like before West Mandeville, like I think Sierra genuinely hated Kyle, like actual hatred. Revisionist story is insane. Like people literally forget the abuse that Amanda endured. It's like, yeah, because she like ended up hooking up with Kyle. Yeah. Right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Well, Kyle Cook revisionist story is insane. Like people literally forget the abuse that Amanda endured and it's like, yeah, because she like ended up hooking up with her friend's boyfriend. Like she somehow deserved it. But we all have completely forgotten what Kyle cook actually is. Now he's like some hero that everybody loves to have DJ their events. He's the devil. Like, so it is crazy that she made out with him, but I guess like, I guess it's just clean slate tabula rasa. Yeah. Of course. Also. Um, Craig shared that he's in love. He's in a new movie, a peacock original micro series, right? Charmed by a Southern monster. I'm obsessed. I saw this really mean clip of everybody making fun of the AI nature of the poster. I fucking love Craig. I'm sorry. Like he, people are so hard on him. They are so hard on him. I love him so much. I'm watching this series. I'm watching. It's a series. I heard it was a micro series. I thought it was a movie. I thought it was like a lifetime movie. And what is the micro series? Cause is that something like you watch vertically on Tik TOK? No, but it's on Peacock. Oh, it's on Peacock. Yeah. It's on Deadline story on the Peacock mobile app. Claudia. No, I'm telling you it's like vertical content, right? Yeah. I love this. He will be playing the series blends, soapy romance, workplace rivalry, and a small town mystery. It's like Hallmark meets Smut. The story follows Maeve. Is Craig going to be like in a sex scene or is it going to be, I think it's sexy Maeve. She has been sent to seduce Hunter, a rumored murderer into selling his family's estate. But when she discovers that the town's most. Feared man may actually be it's most. The Grinch. It's literally the Grinch. And the only person who can protect her from her dangerous ex-boyfriend Maeve becomes entangled in Hunter's world. I actually can't fucking wait. I can't wait. And I do. As family secrets and a billion dollar development deal threatened to unravel their growing connection. It's like Hallmark, ex-porn, ex-Yellowstone. Yeah. She must confront her past and decide how much she's willing to risk for love. And can you confirm whether this is available like on regular Peacock or it's truly like a vertical series? I think it's a vertical series. I love that. Like I just, this is so inspired and you don't understand like what we know about Craig. Like when I have ever been with Craig, the, the people that come up to him, mostly older women, like older women love Craig. When you watch, like he does all these events, like sewing down south or whatever hit the lines. It's all older women. They like think he's so hot. When we, when he came to my bris, everyone's mother was like, who is that guy? Like he's very old school handsome. So I think he's really attractive to an older crowd. And I think like an older crowd would love this. Mm-hmm. Of course. And I'll be watching. Good luck to them to finding the vertical Peacock mobile app. But, um, I will be watching, I will be watching as well. Kind of banner year for Craig. I'll be air playing to my TV. Vertically. I can't watch stuff on my phone. I can. And I will. Or my iPad. I'm like, Oh, you can, or you can't watch on your iPad. I don't know. It said Peacock for mobile is, does that include iPad? It's like, yeah, I think that includes seems like a gray area. It does. Um, some more Bravo fan fest news they've renewed in the city. NYC, Southern hospitality. Andy was asked in the Q and a, I thought this was a good question finally, um, like w what is his stance on Amanda and West, like returning to Bravo in some capacity in the city or summer house. And everyone was booing. He just like waited for everyone. He was like, listen, I definitely could see them on in the city. And it's a good answer in the city needs that first of all, they have to be on a separate show than Sierra. So if Sierra is going to stay on summer house, fine. Um, and Kyle, um, I think it's a good idea. I think so too. We're here to entertain also, Lindsay said she hasn't spoken to Amanda since the, in the city reunion. She hasn't spoken to West since the summer house reunion. Lindsay was making news. Lindsay and Carl were being cute. Joe Bradley as well. Yeah. She said that she's having a hot mill fall. She called her romance with Joe Bradley hot. Okay. Um, and then going into our second story, drama is a foot between Andy Cohen and Bethany Frankel. I saw this. Can you explain the Genesis of the drama? There was a clip going around that, um, and he was asked a question about, you know, Bethany returning to Bravo in any capacity, like what is his take on that? And he was like, well, I don't really know what Bethany is up to since I'm not on Tik Tok. Like it was like derogatory about Tik Tok. So then of course Bethany takes to Tik Tok to film, um, like a little bit of a response. You should play it. I'm going to play it. It's unreal. So we can play it. And also I did want to say that I caught the second half of the first episode of golden life. And I want to say you are 100% wrong. It's amazing. Oh, you caught the second half. So I haven't seen that. Oh, when they go to Kyma? I didn't see Kyma. And Luann like thinks it's a party. So she brings like eight gay guys. Oh yeah. And then Sonya's grinding on her boyfriend. I didn't see that yet. And then Ramona's like, excuse me, this is a sit down dinner that like I planned and you knew I told you you could bring one friend, your boyfriend. And here you are like with a thousand people. And Luann's like, well, these are my friends. I'm not leaving them. And so they're like, Sonya, Ramona's like, you guys literally can't sit here. Ramona's beefing so hard with this like little like short gay guy and he's like giving it to her so hard. She's giving it right back. It was seriously hilarious. There was one disgusting thing where like Sonya got up to, she's like, I have to burp, but I can't burp without sticking my fingers down my throat. So she stuck her fingers down her throat and then threw up and they showed the throw up in the sink. Like it was actually really disgusting and like not funny at all. That's upsetting. Yeah. But they were like screaming at each other in this restaurant and then they start grinding on Luann's boyfriend and that's like the cliffhanger. Luann's like actually upset. So she takes her man and leaves. They were acting, I didn't realize that that was her boyfriend cause I missed the first half of the episode. Right. And that's her boyfriend of two years. Oh wow. He's really handsome. He was like playing into it. Like she should be mad at him too. But I think that's, you know, the kind of guy Luann likes. He's like a party guy. He probably didn't think it was that serious and he's European. So like. And I do feel that Kelly, she was at the table the entire time and she didn't say one word. Like she's a misfit. One hundred percent. Yeah. She's just a body really. Yeah. And I, yeah, I think it was good. Like you have to appreciate it for what it is, like the novelty of these women. Yeah. Like watching the first half of the first episode. It's not a fair way. You were right. The professionals like solo budget. It's not a fair way to judge a show. So I said like, I don't know what's going to happen to me. Maybe it gets better, but it was just giving like strange set ups. Chaos too. Okay. So then Bethany responds to Andy's snarky question and there's definitely drama. Well, Andy Cohen took a swipe at me on a panel. So let's take the bait. Uh, I think he was asked, would you ever have Bethany back on the housewives? And he said, I'm not really that active on Tik Tok. I'm not really that active on Tik Tok. I'm not really that active on Instagram. I'm not really that active on Twitter. he's lamenting about missing the golden life i think you're right about that i think that like it's definitely this thorn in his side but not because they passed on it but because it like is not up to snuff for what bravo normally puts out and two i don't think that andy is like this bitch boy at bravo like he is not the president of bravo but he runs that fucking place and he's making a shit ton of money and it's probably in more creative control than he's ever been in his whole career like he just keeps getting more and more so i don't agree with her points but like andy did take a swipe at her and she has every right to swipe back i just wish she like hit a little more factual like you know i think she made an interesting point like we're all over here like writing our own way and you're a corporate cog you know he's still crushing it he is still crushing it and you can't argue that he's not but like it's she's so she's saying like i'm my own boss and you're not actually sure like good one like i just it's not a good rebuttal but these two are always sort of like tiffing but it seems like at the end of the day it's okay no this seems like it did it was like and they always had like a good close relationship he has like notoriously took her side and carol bethany now they have carol back on and andy said he can plan a dinner party with three housewives i saw like some random clip that one of them he said like portia radzi like he's so back on radzi so he's now like taking public shots at bethany when he could have been like you never know he could have just said something like it wasn't even a shady question no and he could have been like i don't know if she would ever do it and never say never right that's like a beautiful answer so he did get a little like shady shady but i think it's also hard when you're up on that stage to not like take the shady bait because the people ask in the audience they're all like they're gassing you up they want yeah like even like with erica and dory when she said pk and like she was just like i'm a showman you get rewarded for that like that happened with sonia saying dorinda's unfuckable like you just like lose yourself to the moment it's true you forget that there's someone literally watching at home in their pajamas that's like what'd you just say about me like that's hurtful although i do feel from bethany's video that like andy struck a nerve do you know what i mean like it felt like first of all it was rude what he said like hands down and there was like literally no need for it and it's like he just said she's on tiktok and he's not on tiktok yeah but in a way like in a way that's like derogatory like i'm on tv she's on the internet you know like like uh patron don't come for us internet people correct patronizing so it was rude and she has but i do feel like the quickness and the way in which she responded like maybe he struck a nerve a little bit i think also there's something that went sour in their relationship neither one of them have spoken negatively about the other and so she's like oh you went there let's go there even when because they've had like bumps in the past like when she did that housewives rewatch podcast after for years like sort of clowning on the podcast and and the rewatch and then she went on watch what happens live to promote it and i don't know if it was the person who was the other guest or somebody in the audience asked like you've clowned on this type of content for years and now you're doing it and it got very contentious between the two of them that clip is like so awkward to watch i think maybe it was even michael rapaport who was the other guest um and they've always come back from their little sniffs and i think they both like understand that it's part of the the ecosystem but this feels like a little below the belt on both of their parts but i also feel like for bethany like she sees every like moment as an opportunity she's not afraid of conflict and like like we just pulled up her page and played the clip on the show so she's like oh andy gave me he threw down the gauntlet like this is good for my and she capitalizes you know what i mean like some people like get like scared or like us she like confronts the drama because she knows that that is what's like good for her channels and and it is like we are talking about it and if she never responded i would have never heard that andy said that about her yeah i i had not heard it until she responded so i think she sees all this stuff as like an opportunity and as she would probably say like it's business it's not personal yeah it got a little personal though like you're still where i left you yeah yeah um so i think that's all the bravo drama from the weekend and actually our third story is a little more random unrelated bravo drama between dumois and erin leach i'm going to need you to explain this to me i'm going to do my best because i've been seeing bits and bobs so i guess on this season of roni so far someone is coming for erin i believe it's jessel trying to say like they're in some sort of like financial insurance insurance fraud and so erin then says well i heard a rumor about you three years ago and i never shared it but now maybe i will about the husband being gay right and it was about the husband then it turns out that erin heard the rumor from dumois like in person like well erin's husband is dumois lawyer yeah so let me tell you something about erin's husband he's a lawyer for a lot of people i've actually worked with him like on a deal once right he represents a ton of brands and i guess people including de moximo i feel that people are a little misrepresenting like he's dumois lawyer like they're in bed together you know what i mean like yeah they're making it seem like erin's in bed with dumois i think like his firm represents her in brand deals like i think it's right they definitely know each other and i think that maybe erin has even met dumois like just through work but i think that it's misrepresented just a little bit based on my limited knowledge now don't yeah no i would agree like if i think about my lawyer's husband i don't even know their name it's true oh and we're certainly not like like sharing tea yeah no no not sharing tea like not getting into bed on like drama yeah it's really just like hey can you look over this contract and it's like super unethical too if abe was doing that so i think he's a clean lawyer yeah so so i think that like people found out this fact about dumois and abe and they're trying to be like oh erin is a puppet for dumois and i don't think it's that i don't think so either just given what i know about attorney client relations so dumois posted like a cell with a timeline and everything saying a rumor that was first discussed but never actually revealed on the do you podcast back in 2023 has become part of a storyline on bravo's roni apparently other people had heard the rumor as well and now three years later it's resurfacing on the show with this conversation picking up online we figured we shared the timeline from dumox most perspective and explain what we know about how this all started there are still unanswered questions and undoubtedly parts of the story we're not privy to but for anyone trying to piece together how we got here this is our side of the story october 2023 dumois receives the rumor via dm to erin's husband the same day oh well never mind what we said november 2023 erin hears the rumor off camera while recording an episode of do you at bravo con wait erin hears the episode wait sorry erin hears the rumor not from her husband here's the rumor okay correct she did not hear it from her husband is what they're maintaining she heard it off camera while recording an episode of dues podcast so someone told her so someone in the do universe someone told her while they were all together recording the podcast at bravo con off camera yes 2023 to 2025 dumois subscribers never forgot the mention of it there was a mention of a rumor of a cast however it was never published and never revealed 2026 the rumor resurfaces on the season of real housewives of new york city interesting this kind of feels like a huge nothing burger yeah and the bravo con bit and november erin came on the do you podcast while she's at bravo con we mentioned a rumor exists about one of her castmates no name no details on the podcast they said that on the podcast that's how the listeners know off camera everyone is privately told what it is she hesitates she said i don't even think i want to know what it is she hears it anyway of course for the record abe has confirmed he never told erin about the rumor before this november 2023 podcast recording she heard it from dumois that day well dumois has corroborated that they're trying to you know protect abe leach's uh attorney integrity now give us a scoop at bravo con like what's the vibe it's honestly heartwarming to be in the in this atmosphere where everyone's just like so excited to meet us between it being the first season i've ever done and then the first bravo con but like i didn't realize we had so many fans i just finished watching the reunion is everyone good is there still some tension yeah i mean there's definitely still some tension but surface level everyone's good no one's like is on such bad terms that they can't be in the same room or anything like that are you guys hanging out though while you're there or are you guys hanging out while you're there or are you just kind of doing your own yes i'm i'm personally i'm hanging out with everybody who's here not everybody's here you know now i've god people are going to kill me for the teasing this but i heard a huge huge bomb of a rumor i'm dying to know if it will be like an underlying theme of next season i'm going to do my starting stuff um okay now question from me how's it then like went on to play a dress i think he made a video of him going into the equinox steam room which is like a notoriously gay watering hole um just sort of like taking the rumor on its face and dying and of course yeah um jessel too they don't seem to be like too frazzled by this particular rumor um but it's like if someone dms dumois and says like povett tank is tank yeah povett tank is gay yeah who cares like what's also what sort of recourse is de maximo doing right to so she can't just go around and be like i heard a rumor like anyone and we just saw this with emily gillis and what's her name gillis yeah no they're just and tanya you can't just like say stuff so if someone if i'm dumois and i just get messages of random people being like blanks gay blanks i'm like who can you can say whatever yeah i would imagine that like this at this stage in her career and you know through the advice of her lawyer abe leachy she doesn't post things unless because i see like when she posts a spotting of two people she'll post it from like three or four people like she won't confirm it until like three different eyewitnesses said and i think when it comes to like rumors like that i think she has trusted sources like i definitely know people who 100 tell dumas stuff like yeah like you can always i think a lot of agents and managers do it so it's like trusted um it's for pr and i think in exchange being like hey i'll give you a little tea about this person um so i think she has trusted sources she calls one of her sources like the studio exec so i think now she's not just like making shit up i have to know i don't think she's making shit but other people can make shit up yeah i think that she does so it's like an amount of just because she got like a a tip in 2023 like why would that shake up the rony cast like anyone can write anything about anyone it's true so i don't understand like the point of this story i think people were probably most titillated to find out that aaron's husband works for dumon and i think aaron's having like a villainous season so they're just like and now you're in bed with dumon you started this rumor and if it's not true i just feel like a gay husband storyline is like so boring it's so like first it's so tired like how many we see this all the time it's true and you know what like if they are gay like we'll find out in due time do yes like it always it always comes to and also just me i heard your husband's gay like it's different than like he gets his dick sucked at the roundup and i know the boys that did and i know the boys who did it i heard he gets his dick and you know what that was carrie duber's husband right they're still married right but i heard he gets his dick sucked at the roundup and i know the boys who did it now that's a substantiated ring back the real house has a doll that's a real it's person place time and it's luann luann it's leanne putting herself behind it not an anonymous from an anonymous tip on an anonymous website like please he gets his dick sucked and if that's what counts as a storyline boys who did it at if that's what counts as a storyline at roni an anonymous tip to an anonymous website like that does not pass muster i agree it's very um you know orlando fashion week for the real housewives of orlando like it's it's what we're doing in the first season and it's very emily gellis like i heard that this product gave you diarrhea yeah and it's like we're gonna need a little bit more than that sweetie pictures of the diarrhea would help okay what else did you so for those who care there you go there you go but it sounds like they're happily married it sounds like abe leachy held up his lawyer duties and it sounds like erin's just fighting back because you called her an insurance lawyer and you called her an insurance lawyer and you called her an insurance fraudster so why don't you think about doing that and just know someone's gonna come at you with something yeah they because she erin bought this like defunct townhouse and they're like really renovating it to make it like a like a huge like four-story home um and then i think there was like a leak or something so they're claiming that she is like insurance frauding it up oh that's what no no her hamptons house flooded jessel was caught and i just want to say jessel called her insurance her hamptons house flooding an insurance scam and i just want to say jessel's obviously never had a flood because if you do have a flood and you do have insurance like you obviously take pictures just to make it like a little more drama a lot of people you know they amp it up just to get a bigger insurance check and that's what we get for being insurance holders you know right and your house flooded like you're gonna need to pay for that flood and you do like you don't exaggerate but you're like the floorboards need replacing yeah but sure i could put a carpet over it like but i would like my new floor everybody does 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like their friendship like was no longer i don't know if they have like an amazing friendship or whatever so they were like og besties like okay so then people were commenting about it i think like just jared posted you know seemingly friendship breakup rumors and jones smalls commented two words summer house that'll explain everything to who not what the hell are you talking about cut to like yesterday's reported that tom brady and candace swan and panel are seeing each other which let's talk about that first just like as a comment because i think that's a really good troubling, so uninspiring. just i'm so sick of like rich skinny celebrities dating other rich skinny celebrities really it's just like so obvious like yeah fantasy bra queenie like with a quarterback it's like giselle you know what i mean it's like he's so there's nothing wrong with canis monopole i'm sure she's amazing but he's so like basic obvious yeah like i think i just i also obviously loves a beautiful woman i can't stand him are you just mad that it's not alex earl you can't stand him i'm actually not mad i literally alex earl get behind me like i'm so glad she got away from him you know you were shipping it yeah of course because it was like good for her career i wasn't but i i just like i just can't stand him so who would you want to see him with like i don't want to see him how about that why can't you stand him because there's nothing wrong with him i don't think oh there is oh really yeah yeah bad vibes bad vibes that face really leathery like i'm telling you it's just mean okay and what if it is don't ask tom brady at his next q a what did you think about the toast girls calling you leathery no i just feel like he's like chasing eternal youth i feel like i just can't stand him okay well today like or yesterday it's come out that he's in dating canis one up now like think whatever you want about that so going back to joan small's comment it feels as though like joan smalls like has had like a year's long fling with tom brady what does that have to do with summer house she's the amanda tom is west oh you didn't see it as west mandeville i didn't know she was referring to the bravo show oh i believe she was referring to the bravo i thought like the two of them split a house and canis never paid for it like oh because she didn't capitalize s and h it's a whole thing is capitalized in cap summer house i believe she's talking about the show joan smalls watches summer it's like wait i was like i kept thinking like how are people getting to tom brady okay summer house summer house i was just like i thought i don't know maybe like they shared a house and canis didn't do the dishes like and she brought her boyfriend and was like out or just like just like that roommate and he was being leathery oh summer house okay so now do you see yeah of course what could have happened here that she would be the sierra that i guess she's had a year's long flirtation and sort of relate situationship with tom brady i know canis has come in and he's her boyfriend are you telling me that like she's had a year's long situationship and we didn't know about it like we're always reporting tom with this girl tom with that model like how does he have the time perhaps but for me i'm like well you know what i'm you're both dumb no i'm like you're both amanda because that's your friend's ex-husband oh i don't think they what about giselle you don't think she is from like a prior generation of models like she's a little bit older and i don't think they all like came up together no there was they definitely crossed over in their eras i just think you're all breaking girl code how about that i think you're all breaking girl code i just think like you're both like such like role models for both like gorgeous everyone's obsessed with both of you and like you're dating tom brady like no i think that's like for other people i want to say like do better when you're so gorgeous everyone's obsessed with you then you date tom brady no like that's how i feel about like joe mancinello no when you're like you should be dating joe jonas you know what i mean like you want to impress me date joe jonas okay but like say that's not an option for them because he's dating someone that don't impress me much like i just like it's just a very hot smart it's just a very hot take that tom brady isn't good enough for these women really i don't think i'm alone i think like he's becoming i think you're correcting the fact that like not everyone loves him like people are annoyed by him and like they're retiring and everything and they're retiring and then the giselle and also leaving his family like that and then of course we all glossed over it because we were obsessed with him and giselle but what he did to bridget moynihan like also wasn't cool yes but like who he is and like his brand like he's a very wealthy very attractive very successful individual objectively now we can have our personal opinions but that's just the truth maybe i'm just more principled because like if tom brady would literally say no probably because you're married well yeah but like with that little fact not yeah like if even if you were single and like i was at a party and like tom brady like seriously i would seriously no you wouldn't be interested in him there's nothing less attractive than a deadbeat like honestly and you find him to be a deadbeat i mean he wouldn't like retire at the right time to spend time with his children working you see justin verlander like literally couldn't wait to retire why why i want to spend more time with my kids i already feel so guilty about how much time i spend but that is he's like that's the price you pay for greatness and i get that but like at a certain point like call it call it yeah and like he would never call it like not even for his kids yeah and then for his wife who's literally like i will leave you if if you don't and then of course like the bridget moynihan thing which like you know you could argue both sides of but it's not good i don't know i just i would say no if he asked me out honestly i think we actually need a tom brady documentary because things are getting bad for him the optics and like maybe he's misunderstood maybe i would like to hear him explain himself as it pertains to the whole retirement thing instead of doing a roast why why don't you just be honest and real i don't think he's capable honestly i just feel like for the longest time it was like we're never going to talk about what happened between him and giselle like they have a lot of kids together like that's just very personal and now it's just like so spun out of control she's literally remarried right and and i feel like it's time for him to like tell his story yeah tom history tom or no i think it would be brady hobbs the third i prefer brady hobbs like if tom brady and brady hobbs asked me out i would go out with brady hobbs no did you see brady hobbs in the uh reboot he was like this like radical college kid he was crazy oh yeah the son i was seeing steve for a second oh i would definitely go out with steve you wouldn't go out business owner he was so loyal to that wedge yeah i and also i need to like think of sex in the city history as it ending with the sex in the city of course i can't really think of it just like that even though what was he doing he was just getting left by his wife like he was not bad steve brady yeah but brady hobbs so it was like kind of nutty of course yeah of course interesting so anyways apparently that's like what happened between the girls just putting like i totally misunderstood the message i can't believe i just the idea that jones malls had seen summer house is like unfathomable to me and when i think of like tropes to use for like a woman stealing your man i don't know what i would i mean like maybe i would say summer house but i thought that that was like a niche reference but i guess it's not no i don't think so like for your friend to like start dating the guy that like you've been crushing on and like talking to for a long time that's what i would call that okay um but separately tom and candace are now dating sure sure um are you ready for our fifth and final story i am it was actually more news about thomas markle senior more about the letter so we're now getting more letter oh to the police letter that megan said she received right that the police received that and she the police gave it to her yes exactly so now we're we're learning more about the letter who it came from and what it said so the son has reported that a letter from thomas markle senior's ex-wife reportedly confessed that he went to the far east because quote 12 year olds are legal there well i saw somebody commenting on this like thomas markle moved to the philippines which is sort of just like a sign of guilt like why so the disturbing claim was made by his first right wife rosalind loveless in a 2019 letter she sent to london and she said that thomas markle is a london's metropolitan police obtained by the sun now megan said they got a letter in 2018 i think this was the letter though yeah i'm gonna assume there was one letter and it was just the years off whatever um loveless wrote i questioned thomas senior he denied child sex abuse accusation but stated that he went to the philippines and thailand because 12 year olds are legal there so in 2019 at the time the legal age of sexual consent in the philippines was 12 years old but it was still illegal to pay for sex with anyone under 18 in 2022 the country raised the issue of sexual intercourse with thomas senior and he was the only one who was allowed to do that so this woman was married to thomas senior from 1965 to 1975 that's long yeah but very long time ago yeah and she passed away in 2024 so according to the outlet she sent her seven-page letter to scotland yard's fixated threat assessment center which handles risks to the british royal family politicians or other she knew where to go the metropolitan police didn't have jurisdiction to investigate the allegations in the letter against thomas senior because it allegedly happened abroad interesting now he's being investigated for hundreds if not thousands of child sex abuse images well that's what we call a whistleblower yeah she saw something yeah but i guess they're what can they do with just that letter but they shared it with but it's enough to yeah appropriate and then i guess what thomas junior found was enough to get the investigation across the finish line well it's not across the finish line no but like an investigation started yeah yeah yuck i seriously can't even talk about him like he's so fucking disgusting yeah he's disgusting looking too yeah yeah it's just a crazy it's a crazy story it is like it's actually the craziest thing and royal family has like a lot of drama a lot of like sordid drama and just i know this also like is not their first brush with pedophilia obviously prince andrew comes to mind of course so it's maybe just like something that's like what megan and harry can talk about like another thing they have in common having like family members with sordid pasts yeah then of course you know the nazis and things like that yeah and then of course you know the nazis and things like that yeah no there's a lot i mean this goes back for hundreds of years so there's a lot of drama you could say that again well that's our show you guys very bravo centric very bravo centric which it isn't usually very clip centric i felt like i was like listening to a lot of primary source material well that's so good we do our work and that's why the golden globes obviously respects yeah that we do the primary source material and then we are the second make sure to check out our bibliography we will have a bibliography attached to this episode mls we do that is a bibliography it's not citated properly but yeah no and let me tell you i've never once in my life citated a bibliography properly like never once I've never gotten a paperback where the bibliography didn't have like red marks all over it. You gotta go to easybib.com. I was going to easybib.com. Were you? I don't think I was clear on like what type of, like you have to plug in the information. And it's like, is this a first sort? I don't fucking know. But it's all in the pub. Like if I was going to school now with chat. Well, yeah, because you, it looks like easybib.com is not in business anymore. But yeah, now I would just say to chat, like annotate this properly. Bibliography. And that's a good use of AI, I would say. I completely agree because like I never needed that skill ever again. Easybib is here. It's not easy. You spell out easy. Okay, let me see it. You can enhance your writing, cite your sources, check for plagiarism. It's obviously had like a check for plagiarism. That's a problem for me. They've obviously had like an upgrade. The website didn't look like that in my mind. Create citations. Let's see. I think website, book or journal, classic, JSTOR. Oh my God. I just got a pit in my stomach. JSTOR, yuck. Did you use JSTOR? You're a JSTOR girl? Um. I think I was like supposed to be using JSTOR and it was like this sort of like mythical feature like I couldn't like figure out. I'm going to ask a stupid question. Yeah. Like does JSTOR have anything to do with Jewish? No. Doesn't it feel like, I feel like anything that starts with a J. J-swipe? Like J-swipe. J, like everything that's like J first just feels Jewish to me. I feel like JSTOR, like the J probably stands for like judicial. You think so? Let me look. Or is it like Jewish texts? Because I was like learning about Jewish history. So I couldn't parse between. Oh, is JSTOR like only like. No, it's a digital library of academic journals, books, and primary sources. Maybe it was started by someone. Nothing to do with Judaism. Like what is the J for in JSTOR? Because usually the J is for Jewish. Probably for Jacqueline Follet. Or journals, archival journals. Journal store. Journal store. Turtle store. Seriously. I don't know. To me. And like the. I can't talk about JSTOR anymore. The iconography is like so Judaica. Like I'm not wrong for thinking that's a Jewish website. You're not. But. Full of Jewish texts. The way that website. The way that website just gave me anxiety. Like. I'm so sorry. Your paper is due tomorrow. Yeah, literally. Wake up. You're failing. Somebody wake me up from this nightmare. You guys, that's our show. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday Morning Show. We deliver the best life stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast on every podcast we've found. So that's Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Wherever you listen to podcasts, find us, the Toast, leave a five star review. About how beautiful, stunning, and how talented we are. We'll see you tomorrow. We love you. Bye. 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