Andrew Sedra Gives PROPHETIC Warning of ISLAMIC INSURGENTS in America | The Mark Driscoll Show | Ep 12

(upbeat music) - Well, Howdy and this is gonna be a fun day. So we have some new friends into the studio today. We connected on social media. It's an awesome day and agent. It sounds like you guys have been following gosh marks ministry for a while. And we love for our audience, our base. Could you guys introduce yourselves? What do you guys do, where are you at? What are you all about? - It's Andrew and Nolan here with all the way from the gay social and status of Australia. (laughing) We passed our church in Sydney, Australia. Oh, glory to the Lord. It's a big far over there. But we're here. We come to America a lot to kind of give it a warning. - Get a break. - Get a break, get a bit of freedom. - To go from Egypt to Australia. I mean, it's like, let's do jihadis and homos. - Yes. - You need a break. - Yeah. - And I need some real Christian nationalism part of the break. (laughing) So we skate here like the real Islamic jihadis to find the gay jihadis going off us. We're like, I never knew that gays can be jihadis, but they can. - Yeah, they are, yeah. - Yeah, so we're from there, we're kind of, we're very blessed we get to come to America. To give the American social warning of what can happen and what will happen. If there is no genuine revival and true repentance. So I think really our job, Stenios, Australia is like 10 to 15 years ahead of America with the socialist agenda if the church doesn't repent. And Egypt is like 600 years ahead of America of what happens if a nation abandons God and submits to Islam. Egypt was the center of Christendom. It wasn't just his ancient barbaric Arabs going around. Egypt actually was 600 years Christian, which gives you the reality of America can become with them. If Egypt became with them historically, it's not a French concept. I think we come here, they're gonna give America a prophetic warning in regards to the future with socialism and Islam. If the church doesn't put the work in order under the word of the Lord. - Yeah, and we're grateful for the United States. Like the reason we're here so often is because we believe, I mean, call it American exceptionalism. I think America is exceptional. I think God has graced America for such time as this. And so we see the danger of every time wherever America goes, our country will follow. And so as leaders in Australia, we also feel responsibility to really speak to Americans as well and give a warning of, don't let your country become Australia because it can happen to any nation, so. - One of the reasons I'm not arrested yet, so far is because we do have President Trump on the way out. - Yeah. - When President Trump lived at our house in 2021, the church was shut for a whole year. The police was knocking from my doors for preaching the gospel. The reality is if America doesn't move towards Christ and the world will become a totalitarian crowd. That's the reality. God graced America with an anointing, a power, a military, a vision, whatever you wanna call it. And we really don't want America to fall. I think if America falls, you're probably looking at another thousand years. If Jesus is not back, before you find another Christian nation and freedom. So this concept of liberty, freedom, preaching the gospel, building a church, planning a church, everything you got to take you for granted, I grew up never having that. - So they're very precious to me. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, and right now in Australia, I don't think what Americans truly understand is that is a socialist moving toward a Marxist nation. And they don't have the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. And so being an actual Christian with a public faith is on the precipice of being illegal, if not almost impossible. - Yeah. - And so as cities like Seattle now has a democratic socialist mayor, New York has a democratic socialist mayor. We are field testing these ideas in America. What does that look like for you as a pastor in Sydney? - Just practically in the recent years. - It looks like the anti-terrorism police coming to our church at least four times, for what they call hate speech, which is specifically hate, Islamophobia and threat towards movement. So I escaped the Islamic Order of Egypt from Muslims trying to kill us, they come to Australia to find the anti-terrorism police, targeting me, not the Muslims. I'm the terrorist, I'm the dangerous man. So we're facing a legal warfare where the victim is the perpetrator and the perpetrator and the victim. So we literally have the anti-terrorism squad designed for ISIS, come to be on Tuesday because of the sermon up reached on Sunday. That is what it looks like. It looks like because the Bondi attacks were two violent Islamic men literally booted, 2000 Jews, as people are screaming the Jews in the Jews, Mark. - Most of them are literally booting them across the globe, but just the fact, now they're passing what they call hate preaching laws. - Okay, that's not yesterday. - So now we have direct blasphemy laws. - Yeah. - That's literally what a preacher can and cannot say. And they'll be monitoring leaders, pastors and organizations that spread hate division over us. So hate division, I'm not sure what does that mean, but we know what does that mean. It means the battle. Jesus literally was charged on blasphemy laws. So we are now heading towards what I'm doing. They'll try to pull me in jail. They literally said that they're not now talking at like a civil offense. It's gonna be a criminal offense to breach hate. - Or division. - Division. - And so I mean, the end of the day or the other day, I mean, yeah. - Well, Christianity and the preaching of the gospel literally requires division. I mean, it's heaven, hell, truth, lies, gods, Satan, good evil. It literally, the teaching of the Bible, the preaching of the gospel, the purpose is division. That's the purpose. - Jesus came to bring us soul, literally. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yes, so we're watching that thing, Islamophobia laws, which is, so we're already seeing pseudo-sharia law taking place. This is a funny thing. Hate speech laws and Islamophobia laws are pseudo-seccular-sharia laws. So we are already seeing apostasy and conversion for apostasy and blasphemous in place. So that's from the gay jihadists. So I need just one point where they arrest me. We'll see what's gonna happen. I'll give you a phone call if you're gonna do a podcast about it from jail. That'd be nice. - But it's not even from the Muslim side. It's also from the gay side. - Not the gay side, too. You can go with the gayism. - So we have, like, and we, yeah, I'll talk about the gays. We have, like, we tried to warn America of this, Australia of this before it even came into effect in the legal system. We said they are trying to pass laws to silence Christians and pastors, especially, over prayer. And it's like, this is like Daniel stuff, like Babylon stuff. And so they've passed under the, you know, they try to make it sound nicer and legal in loving, anti-conversion therapy laws. Apparently, in conversion therapy, it's an apostasy. - It's an anti-repentance law. - Yes, so they're okay. - They're okay with you trans-ing physically, but they don't want you trans-ing so they don't want Christians spiritually. - So it's very, the irony is just hilarious. But they are now in our stay in Melbourne. I know it's going to happen all across the nation eventually. - As of a few months ago. - As of a few months ago, if a pastor prays for gay person, even with their consent, so if you're in the lobby, you just-- - If you pray this type of mentor, lay hands, ask them to fast, reach out them outside of the pulpit with the intent of conversion. It's a criminal offense. As a pastor, you get five years in jail. And your church will get fined $100,000 for praying the gay way. - Yeah. - What it means. So it is now illegal and a criminal offense. - To convert homosexual to a repentant lifestyle. - And funny enough, we call it conversion experience. So the gospel is literally illegal instead of illegal. So right now, it is the law of the land that if you feel gay, you must be gay as you have gay. So we literally now have a law of the land that says, you must be gay. It is the religion of the state. And I'm not even exaggerating. It's said in the law, if a gay person gave me their consent to pray to them, it's illegal for me to pray for them, even with their consent, because they're too vulnerable to understand what they want, because they're a victim. - Well, thank you to our partners at Goldco, since we have been partnering with them, we have gotten some questions from you. One of the most common questions is, is now the right time to buy gold and silver? Or should you wait for prices to come down? Well, here's the answer. Precious metals are not quick flips. You buy precious metals for legacy, to preserve assets, for your retirement, and for your children. While you're waiting for the perfect price, your cash is losing value. It's literally melting while you are waiting. That's why I'm encouraging you to put your money into gold and silver with our partners at Goldco. They'll give you a free 2026 gold and silver kit to help you learn more. Plus, there's a bonus silver or gold offer. One you can't beat. It's a 10% instant match for those who qualify. So here's what you need to do give gold code a call today 855 512 gold again. That's 855 512 gold Or you can just click on the link below. Thank you very much. Take care and God bless So even if they asked me to pray for them and gave me a legal permission It's illegal for me to pray for them with their consent So the law of the land that Australia now you must be gay. Yeah, it's illegal to not be gay That is illegal parameters or the thingy and then they they tell you you're converting people and they don't want cutting the kids But yeah, so I'm not the one doing a conversion here You're the one that's butchering the body parts, but you're accusing me of conversion Which it's legal for miners to have gender affirming care, which means right changing gods original Without any parents consent. Yeah, what's the climate and I'll show you as far as other pastors are you guys or do you have a army of guys that are concerned? No, 5 to 10 pastor that I know speaking 5 to 10 we have been weak work feminist feminized in masculinity We are like literally a habit Jezebel Karen and Darren those filmy version Karen Darren We are watching the real rise of soy boy better males Taking over the nation under the name of love empathy Yeah, so we're watching the real Jezebel take place and the church you just play in politics It's left you like Nazi Germany while the Jews were being carried to Florida every time we see a new law The church will turn the subweaver a bit higher to breach and to sing and to sing come by our songs While the next generation is literally being butchered before they even born and young people and cutting and butchering their body parts We're watching cases out of Australia come left Travis Center most hospitals in the last few years Gender affirming care. Whatever you want to call it multiply that 300 percent So there is a whole generation of Daniels as being raised and I believe it's only a matter of time before the next generation They're going to come and look back at the church and say Where are you? Yeah, where were you? Yeah, I didn't know I'm not supposed to cut my penis off Yeah But you thought it was normal because you want to love people So we are in a very very dark space from the end we need more profits and less politicians but the church In Australia is playing politicking yeah, yeah, the way I describe the differences with Australia and America I mean foundationally as a nation like America was founded on freedom You guys vote for your freedom died for your freedom Australia's literally a nation that they imported convicts from England because they had an overpopulation problem And so they just got rid of the people and emptied the prisons put them on an island that they had just recently discovered And so our nation the foundation of it is what flavorless it's slavery mindset is We like a heavy-handed government. We like to be controlled. We like to feel imprisoned And I genuinely think that's a spiritual condition of the nation and that has unfortunately it made its way in the church too Nobody is really not many people I would say there are very few That have experienced that spiritual freedom, but majority of the people when we speak they think we're crazy And they say we haven't Americanized gospel. I'm like, I'm happy with that if I have a gospel that is freedom in every sense I'm happy to take that so let's do so. I'm a far right Fascist fascist Donald Trump. I'm like dude, I'll let women preach I'm liberal as I'm like if you put me in the context of church history I'm not that conservative, but in Australia It's like your Hitler That's kind of how far I mean, you know, I mean like like if you're still using the restroom that was assigned to you a birth You're on the right. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of the political. Yeah The Australia has been and it's really a product of sound and church you the church is a pro a politician not a prophet They instead of being the moral God at the state the spiritual conscience of the nation The spiritual arbiter of truth They have chosen to worship the God of government and submit the state just a few days ago You had the head of the Anglican Church the head of the Catholic Church in Australia and the head of the ACC Which is up to Nicole so charismatic movement all of them went for a photo up with our social with prime minister With a Muslim Imam was a Muslim woman in hijab was a Buddhist priest was a they them In space meeting into faith meeting taking a photo. Yeah, you stand with the Jews So they're now going toward this weird multi Faith and that is the heads of the spirit filled movement. Yeah, the Australian Christian churches. He's gonna email me after this The Anglican Church and the Catholic Church so every single institution is infiltrated by the spirit of the age. Yeah And so you mentioned what happened in Bondi Um, what are the events that led up to that because for us in America we're like okay Muslims are shooting Jews for 20 minutes. I hear sirens. I see police cars No intervention. Nobody does anything like I mean in America like we're in Arizona. I mean Everybody here has a gun. I mean if you're a toddler, you know You're learning. You know, you know, you can walk now time for a gun And so like how do you get to a point in a nation where the only strong men left Are jihadists and all the other men are weak So we got demascularized and they took our balls away 18 to 20 years ago when they removed the guns and the idea was when we removed the guns We're gonna remove heavily ever after it's gonna be beautiful. It's gonna be amazing But then they import literally hundreds of thousands of Muslims to the country So bringing the line and putting this to the left So you see that event we see two Muslim jihadists Going and shooting over 2000 Jews it was on Bondi Beach one of the very gay beaches beautiful beaches was good coffee around That we have so they open the fire on 2000 Jews and everybody's just watching Yeah Put literally filming without intervening. Yeah, and the reason two one number one. We then have guns So people are already have lost a protective instinct one of the big things are all still Australian I'm like you are a woman and you don't know it your woman stuck in a man's body But if you're a man. Where's that instinct that even if I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. We've lost it trying Well trying to defend women and children. I'm going to run at the fight So at least my last day. I am not a freaking coward. Yeah. No. Well if you defend yourself on the street at 12 using jail Explain that so you so in it so you saw the guy that took the gun man and I was like with you courageous you got the gun There's you know him funny enough. He wasn't even a striker. That's why he would be already potentially a legal trouble Because he possesses a gun illegally in public in public. Oh god. He pointed a gun If he shot that thing. Yeah, he will get 100 percent at least 12 years in jail 12 years for shooting a jihadi with his own gun Yeah, what he should get is a cake And well the jihadi woke up he said we're gonna get 72 versions of 72 now. So yeah, you're like, oh, I'm a policeman You're like, I'm in heaven. I'm like, no, dude. Um, you're still on earth. Thank you for all you're going to jail So funny enough 12 years of you shot the jihadi. Yeah, 12 years so all life is in danger And so I get legal advice what kind of do and they said to me you can't do anything. Yeah There's nothing I can do. So are you glad to carry a knife on us, right? Could you run at that guy with a knife? You can No, in order for me to get a butter knife from the grocery store after show ID Well, they're gonna be banning knives soon because we have all of night time matches unless I show that I'm over 18 So they banned but you can wait so not steak. Yeah No, they gonna the government is gonna come and cut the steak for us. We'll be yeah, that's kind of socially. Yeah, yeah So you can't even so if you're a grown man, you can't even run at a jihadist with a gun No with a knife because you're not allowed to have a knife have to wait for the government your daddy to come and help you But they were there not doing anything They were late. Yeah, they didn't stand down orders stand down orders Um, they're half women. Yeah, I saw that getting the one. Yeah, and then she was she was doing this She was she was in a surrender position with a patrol uniform on and a bulletproof vest So I'm from the Middle East the other thing you want to do is to put a woman in front of a salabalada Um, this is the epitome of wickedness and evil to get a weak vulnerable woman and put her in front of jihadist But that's equality according to Australia. It is very it's heartbreaking Like I looked at the photo. I'm like you have a jihadi and a woman. Yeah, it's crazy. Like Um, what does the jihadi mindset think of like when you hear diversity equity inclusion Um, what does a jihadi think going into a culture that has that ideology? To them is it like this is this is wonderful because now you've just moved the coyote into the henhouse Well here in real faith. We are a Thor hammer. We're not big But we make a big difference. We'd love to have you partner with us You can actually text partner to nine nine three eight three again. That's text partner to nine nine three eight three And you can help our little team make a big difference This is beautiful. It is a mind-blown reality And I never ever expected happen coming to the west and finding Muslims vote left wing 80% of Muslims in Australia vote are socialist labor gay. They they're baby killing governor Yeah, so it doesn't make sense for the sovically morally That's the Quran But it's done because because it's what you do so the the Muslims and the jihadists They're thinking generational legacy. They're thinking if all the kids are castrated and if all the alpha males are gone and if all the queers aren't making people then give us a generation or two and we are going to absolutely dominate and we will rule the future. So they use the left as useful idiots. The useful idiots on the left out of tolerance and diversity and naivety, they will deconstruct Western civilization, they will then get rid of any sort of borders or you know assimilation into culture, any sort of national values or nationalism or patriotism. And these people are very weak, they're very stupid and they don't reproduce. And then they like to hand out money thanks to guilt, usually white guilt. And then you walk in, you're like, this is great. You guys hate your culture, you feel guilty, you'll give us money, you will mutilate your children or kill them, give us two generations and we own everything. Yeah, and that's the Marxist thought and they understand Marxist thinking more than the average Western up. They know this is why you get queers and jihadis working. We have a pilot plan because I think it's okay to see things for bacon. Jews for Hitler is literally so I come from the Middle East. I was like, what the hell is that? Yeah, literally, I was like, oh my gosh, because like coming from the Middle East, I was like, like, you're living in the hub of Islam, isn't it? The sharia law, the gays would get killed or raped in jail. Christians cannot move on the country, Christianity, the concept of me coming to the West and what you engage with Gaza. I'm like, this is my bogus. That's queerist for Gaza. You don't see a lot of queers in Gaza. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. Send them there and see what happens. So, so, so I think the bigger issue and this is funny enough that the God, the two God that did the killing, they were trained in El Medina Dawa Center. This is very, very important because because El Medina is the Islam, the war version of Islam. So what Westerns don't understand in Americans is that Islam is a religion of war. While you're playing peace and combat your songs and singing Jesus loves me for the Bible tells me so, you are importing people that fundamentally view you as your enemy. So while you are at peace, they are at war. Islam views the world in two things. It's either every single space plays nation, people and civilization, Dar El Harb, which means the House of War, or Dar El Salam, which is the House of Peace. So, every single Muslim, whether they're radical or moderate, view the whole entire world as these two categories. The way a House of Peace war becomes the House of Peace by three things. Number one, they need to become majority Muslim. Number two, they need to infiltrate and conquer every single institution. Number three, they need to implement some form of Sharia law. So until this happens, every Muslim here, they are here on an aggressive war thought mission to change the House of War to House of Peace. So Egypt is House of Peace. That's why they practice the peaceful religion of Islam. That's why there's no gaze, there's no whatever, they already have control. So they don't need to have there, but when they come to the West, the West is the Muslim liberal gay Christian. So now they're here to fundamentally change the country. And funny enough, these guys were trained in a mosque or a Dawa Center called Medina Mosque, where Muhammad moved from Mecca, which is his priest period to Medina period. And funny enough, the proof within the pudding, the name of the Islamic Center that he went through was Medina's mosque, which is the House of War mosque. So while the secular and the paganist saying our Muslims come here to assimilate, that's not actually what's happening on the ground. Yeah, that was their form of assimilation. Everybody else. They're like, oh my gosh, this is how it enters an attack. I'm like, what do you mean? Like that's you brought Muslims into a Christian nation. How do you expect Muslims who believe in Islam not to act like Muslims who believe in Islam? So I think there's a gap philosophically, theologically and worldview with the Westerners, Americans, particularly, I think, like all of American exceptionalism, but I think there's a bit of American narcissism, which is where Americans look at Islam through the lens of Christianity, not look at Islam through the lens of Islam. And I'm coming here, I'm like, you don't understand Islam as it is. You understand Islam as you want it to be. So what would you say are the fundamental differences between how Christianity spreads versus Islam? Well, the Christian sword is a world. The Christian that Islamic word is a sword. The fundamental thing, you look at the Saudi Arabia flag, well, the whole religion started. And he's won a true prophet, and under is literally a sword. Christianity is spread by the power of the word. Islam is spread by the power of the sword. All you need to do is to study the first 50 to 100 years of Islam, the 50 to 100 years of Christianity, to understand Islamic, Islam is like a very stupid idea. It's very dumb. You need to have exceptionally low IQ, to be almost like, you don't know history, you don't know philosophy, you haven't read the Bible. You need to be born in a desert. For you to be like, oh, Muhammad, oh, he's a true prophet. I'm not 200 years before the Bible was there. So you're coming here to fabricate a story of someone that didn't see Jesus, that haven't made Jesus, that never kissed Jesus, and you're comparing him to the people, maybe you might have looking John and all the Jewish people, they actually kissed Jesus, they ate with Jesus. So Islam is mental illness, I'm sorry. It doesn't make sense. So the fundamental difficulty to the two is that Islam has to move forward by war, because it doesn't make sense. Christianity, I'm happy to be a minority in a country and preach my way to Christian them. So I'm from I was born in Egypt, where Egypt was a pagan nation. In 50 AD, Mark came to Egypt to evangelize by 321, all of Egypt was Christian. Yeah, you had father, ethnicities were there, the right of the Nasim Creed, you had the cultic of the church, yours literally, the larberry Alexandria, there was literally a Christian revival. In the context of 300, these 90% of Egypt became Christian by the preaching of the gospel. Now that place now Christians have been genocide Christianity is now went from 90% to 10% Islam went in the last 1400 years from 0% to 90%. And the way this happened was Caliph Omar of the last declared war on Egypt, and firstly, when Muhammad came, Muhammad sent this message to the leader of Egypt, and he told him, excellent assessment, which means surrender and you will have peace. That was the first point of evangelism or Dawa, if you want to call it between Islam and Christianity, the church of the time was liberal gay, soft, there was literally drag queens in the church. The men were dressing like women, there's record historical record of that. It's America to point off. Yeah, literally, and still need to point off, you can literally share their historical record. So Augustine writes about this all the way back to the day, I got this in new days old demons that there was, there was an entire line of drag queens that were employed by the state. Yeah, as priests and I'm called the galley priests. And so yeah, Augustine speaks to this and what you're seeing in the West is the same thing that you see as well in the Roman Empire. And so in the Roman Empire, I think it was Camille Paglia, she's a bisexual feminist lesbian or whatever, she's crazy, but she's, she's honest. And so she traces within art, the decline of civilizations based upon what is their art. So like she looks at even Roman culture, and she says early on it was strong warriors. By the end of Roman culture, the public civic art was feminine young boys who were sexualized for homosexual relations and that shows the decline of the Roman Empire. And so that's what happens is usually strong men oftentimes with Christian faith will start a culture. It becomes so successful that then it becomes spoiled, it becomes soft, it becomes perverted, and then it begins its decline cycle, and then it gets taken over by strong men that are not Christian, which is Islam, which is Islam. And you're watching that in New York, you're watching that in Sydney, you're watching that in London, you're seeing that in Seattle. Yeah, it's not that in Dearborn Michigan. And yes, so what people don't know, it's not going to land with the Gays, it's going to land with us. So do you think that the homosexual movement is literally just the naive permission giving doorway that opens for for Sharia law in Jihadism? It's beautiful. Leftism is hype. It's not really a thing. It's a season of reality. And the reason I see that is because leftists are killing their baby. They're being butchering their babies, cutting and pushing their body parts. They can't even reproduce the gays or trans or having abortion. So bar nature leftism is self killing. Yeah. So our leftists are self giving and leftism I will say is a Christian disease. Yeah. You don't see that in the Middle East. I will say gayness, liberalism, all this isn't, they're fundamentally Western diseases. Yeah. They're not Christian, but they are driven out of Christian virtues being applied. all that biblical context, empathy, love, diversity, love, the immigrant. So, so what's happening at the moment is that while the Christians are killing their babies, butchering the babies while the third generation of Christians are gay trans homosexual, the amount of Christian people that you meet who get trans, who the grandparent was a Christian is mild longing. So while this is happening, Islam is spreading in the middle in Australia and in America, lack of virus. The most common baby name, a London in 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023, it's not Jekyll Cheston, it's not Gita Tan, it's not all of the twist, it's not Winston Churchill, it's actually Muhammad. The same thing in Berlin and Germany, the most common name is not El-O-Fehler, and it's not Beethoven, and it's not Karl Marx, it's Muhammad. So you're watching already across Europe, the rise of Islam, and in America, it's already here, the second biggest religion in Texas is Islam, the second biggest religion in Virginia is Islam, the second biggest religion in North Carolina is Islam, the second biggest religion in Alabama is Islam, at least 20 out of the 50 states of America, the second biggest religion is Islam. So it is the biggest threat and danger to the Christian West, and I believe at the moment, it's the biggest threat to America. If you look at New York, I saw an American conspiracy theory when I said that one year ago until you saw New York become New York western, with Zebran Mandani, and I think the writing is on the wall, something doesn't need to change in the church world. Yeah, you were talking earlier about feminism and the spirit behind that, how does that play into all this? Yeah. The ladies in this conversation. Yeah, I mean, I mean, you teach on this so well, Pastor Mark, anytime you see an A-hab, you see a Jezebel behind it, and I mean, funny enough, like our government have tried this diversity, equity, inclusion thing for so long, like half of our government at least are women. Like Yeesor, even in the police, the amount of women that were there, it's just, it's crazy. But I think fundamentally, it's an ideological problem that the men for the most part are, you know, submitting to this spirit of the age. And I think like feminism is a huge problem because practically speaking, the feminists should be the ones speaking up against Islam. But it's crickets. It's, it's an ideological framework, which again, going back to the Marxist thinking, it's the unite because it's the oppressed, uniting together against the oppressor, which is the white Christian straight male. And so ideologically, like you said, they're aligning for now. But eventually, it's the feminists that they're going to come after. Like they hate, they don't like women. Ideologically, Islam is the worst, ideal women. And so I do find it interesting that I think feminism has a big part to play in all of this behind the scenes. It's not as obvious because people look to the men that's, you know, God's came to Adam first. But it is there is the spirit behind this adjustable spirit that I honestly think has infiltrated the church and is a big problem bigger than we think it is. You guys have some really strong women at your guys' church. And it's very, very cool. You included what's the difference between feminine strength and feminist strength? Oh, yeah, I mean, I think the baseline is what tell people all the time is, I'm a woman with a strong personality. I'm naturally very assertive. I was raised by a very godly, strong man. And so like, nobody could tell me anything. I'm like, well, my dad said this. So with that, it's, it's a naturally, you can fall into some feminist ideology. And so I think the baseline for me is I follow the biblical guide of male headship. Like my personality, God has created me to be who I am. But nothing comes out of this umbrella of Andrew is the head of our household is the head of me and our marriage is the head of our church. And so operating under the male headship, I think just keeps us in check like God's order is perfect. We've been trying to change it for too long and look at how it's working out for us. And so I think strong women can operate under their strength, but with the boundary of how you need to be under God's design, God is designed men to lead. And I operate in leadership, but only under the headship of my husband. And so he checks everything that I say, I post online, I check everything with him, he is my head and my covering. And so I think that it's a beautiful thing, but it has to have boundaries the way God is set in his one. 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Thank you to our partners at Goldco and thank you for following up. I'll ask my daughter this one. So what's the difference between a strong feminine spirit and a strong feminist spirit? Yeah. I mean, I think I'm like you probably a strong father figure. Obviously, the guy didn't eat in the right direction and gave me all these opinions and things about just about everything. Very starting of all those kinds of things. And I think that it is very challenging when you are that way. And you see the way that culture has gone to not try to take over. And I always had a really hard time thinking like, how am I going to marry a man who's going to lead me? Like, yeah, I was going to be more assertive and more confident in the Lord than I am. Like, I was looking around not seeing it. And obviously God had the perfect husband for me. But I definitely attended toward that like independent spirit where it was like, well, if they're not going to do it, I'll just do it myself. Because women are capable. God gave us giftings. He gave us personalities to lead in certain ways. And I think that the biblical model you're totally right. I mean, it's the biblical model. It's the reason he made it the right way. And so it's yeah, the independence is where we get into trouble where we're operating apart from what God designed. And you can be strong. And you should be strong and your convictions in the Lord. And in your support of your husband, I think if women can be strong in their support of their husband, their husbands will be better than if women try to go off on their own and do their own thing. And that doesn't mean that women can't do great things. But also men have responsibility and headship in ways that we can't handle. Like, I don't want to stand before the Lord be accountable for my family. That's on him. And God's gifted him specifically to do that. And for this ministry and other things that we do, there's a specific anointing on men that my dad talks about. You talk about like God created you in a certain way. And we're supposed to come together and support each other. And so it's yeah, when we get out of our our line, it's not good for men either. So yeah, absolutely. Yeah, when it is odd too, if you think about it, I was thinking about three, but like for a feminist, you should not like the trans agenda, because they're putting men and women sports and men and women's locker rooms. And we have less freedom. Yeah, they take away free women. And and feminist shouldn't be really excited about Islam. I mean, go to a Muslim country, go to a Muslim country and just see how the women are treated. You know, not driving and not educated and I think I've heard part about how polarized we are right now, because like when I was in college, I knew the Lord and knew the Bible, everything. But there were certain issues where I was like, I could see this like liberal idea, making sense. And then 90% of the issues I was like, no way, unbiblical, crazy. But there was enough wiggle room. But if you wanted to be accepted, you have to accept all of them. Yeah. And so that's where it's really, really dangerous. Like you're saying, so yeah, that's it's a trick of trying to I was in college and I was like trying to go along with things because who might have stood against the entire university, but if you're not strong enough to see if the Bible go away, like you're just going to get lumped at all of it. Yeah. And I would even say to your point how it seems like feminism in the trans agenda agenda is a contradiction. But I think that it makes a lot of sense. Like women at one point said, I can do what a man can do. I can become a man when being a woman has no clear distinct is. So you've removed the feminine nature of what it is to be a woman you've removed the gender roles. And so of course, people are now saying, well, gender roles are just a social construct. Gender is a social construct. So I can just chop and change my body. It's just noctisism. It's disbelief that what is on the inside is different, it's separated from what's on the outside. So I don't think that it's a coincidence as much as at face value, similarly to Islam and the gay stuff. It seems like it's contradictory. But at the same time, ideologically, it makes a lot of sense because feminism told women, woman doesn't mean anything. You decide what it means. So then why can't I have a woman and have a penis makes a lot of sense? I always thought the fairness, the first word feminist on my cue started the problem. Yeah, planning. You said woman power, woman power, women wear the pants, why can't I not wear a skirt? I'm like you already said woman can wear pants, it means men can wear skirts. I'm like you have to find the end of your gender and identity and the end of your beauty virtue and everything. The moment you subscribe women can be men, women can be women, women can be women. It's a philosophical problem so really transgenderism is feminism never ended. If you follow the philosophical, all that you would know that more than me, all the founders of the feminist movement will pro-trans. They will pro-gay marriage, gay sexuality, transgenderism because fundamentally they reject the identity of the human nature and women female. You know that person mark all the time, we're like trans-humans so we kind of will be on guard that gender concept that constructs the teacher, strict us so really you're not a man or a woman, you're whatever that you feel. So if you're a feminist, you do need to go back to the drawing board to figure out are you really a feminist, do you really want men playing sports with you, do you want your husband to, were you wearing a nice skirt and putting makeup on and you carrying him on the wedding night, like you're going to have to really get to the consequences of your faith and your belief system of feminism. Yeah, if your identity is not attached to God and how he created you, then you could be anything. He's like literally it just comes back to that simple thing. We were creating his image and likeness as a man or a woman, period. You don't believe that, you can do anything with yourself and it goes to the extreme every time. Yeah. And mental health comes without as well because you look at the, like you look on the trans agenda, you look at the feminist agenda, it's a social experiment and young women, they're not doing well. The mental health, the depression, the loneliness, the suicidal ideation, it is only increasing. And so you're looking at an ideology that is causing misery and pain and suffering. And then you've got women who are hitting a certain age and I have no family. I have no child, I have no spouse, I have no future. I'm very lonely and I have no identity and I have no community. And it leads to a very sad state and it's considered liberation and it's complete isolation. It's tragic. Yeah, I think it's the delusion of freedom, but it's actually slavery. Like women are slaves to feminism, like GK Chesterton, I think talks about this. He talks about the idea of freedom has to come within a set of boundaries and our boundaries are scripture, the moral law that God created, the eternal law God had created. If you draw a giraffe without a long neck, it will no longer be a giraffe. Chesterton uses his analogy. So he's like, in order for something to be true, it has to have boundaries. And so freedom has to have boundaries and without that, you can see all of the women that you're seeing that have this feminist ideology that is so depressed and so unhappy. I mean, I encourage them. I'm like, if you have tried everything and you've tried all these ideas and you're still feeling like this, try God's way, do it for a year, I guarantee you, you will not only be happy, you'll be fulfilled. And only do things in the order God has set. And if everybody did that, I mean, we'd be in heaven. So. Yeah. Like according to the stats, a gay person is at least three times more likely than a straight person to kill themselves. A trans person is 15 times more likely to kill themselves. I will tell the people about church. If you want, if you want your kids to live, make sure they're not gay or trans. So there are fundamental problems with the LGBTQ movement that there are so many baggage that can't do that. If you did subscribe to the LGBTQ ABC, they then people, you would have to come with the consequences. There's suicide, depression, high level of sexual abuse, high level of violence, lesbian couples are like three times more likely. Yeah. So I do encourage people before you subscribe to all these izzans, you've got to look at the consequence. You guys nail all the time with the studies about Christian marriages and also this wine. Yeah. Actually, sexually, physically. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's Bradford Wilcox. If anybody wants to find it, he's at the University of Virginia. He does the best studies, lowest domestic violence, highest marital satisfaction, least likely divorce to practicing Christians, I mean, just statistically, and if you don't sleep together and live together before you're married, you're odds of divorce and adultery plummet. And so literally, like if we just did what the word of God said, human flourishing would be significant. And if you disobey your fighting gravity and your hurt, yeah, yeah. And that's back to the garden. That's the page of Christian nationalism, at least from Aaron, we're like, it's not just better for Christians, it's going to be better for you, it was not a Christian. Like just check history, what rights to the West was Christianity, it wasn't feminism, the feminist that common on myself, like the only reason you can speak is because of feminism. I'm like, no, it's Christianity actually, it's been brainwashed by the spirit of the age to think that it was anything different. And so that's the pitch is like Christianity, flourishing in a nation is not just going to be good for Christians. It'll be good for everyone, practically, historically, it's common sense. So what's the solution for that, for the average Christian, like so they're frustrated by the things you guys are talking about right now, feminism, Islam, all these horrible things happening around the world, what should the average Christian do? What would you encourage them to do? I think the biggest thing is that we need courage for people to speak. Yep. The problem we have in the West is that the church has been so solemn. For the last 50 years, every time the left or the spirit of the aged claim territory, gay marriage, I don't know about gay marriage, like, you know, the biggest issue in Australia was gay marriage. Yeah. Gay marriage wasn't the goal. It was the goal. Yeah. When you subscribe to gay marriage, you subscribe to pastors getting arrested who don't believe in you, because how they use to press people sexually identity. When you subscribe to gay marriage, you subscribe to drag queens. When you subscribe to gay marriage, you subscribe to transgenderism. When you subscribe to gay marriage, you subscribe to young people calling their body parts. You have already crossed the rule because this Adam and Eve became Adam and Eve. And the problem was that church literally didn't speak. Like we see, the reason Australia is under the judgment of God big time is fundamentally because gay marriage wasn't imposed on us. We voted. Yeah. So here Obama manipulated the first and second amendment to try to make it look like the founders were pro gay marriage, not really. In Australia though, we had at least 55 to 60% of Australians in 2017 for gay marriage. Which means Christians did too. Which means at least in a Christian nation, 60% of Christians in mass churches voted well. So the problem was people were not discipled. People didn't know right and wrong. The church kept on just losing territory under the name of love, empathy, third-wayism. Let's reach the last. And before you know it somehow in Australia, we have built the biggest churches yet the darkest culture. Yeah. Like sometimes I look and I'm like, how does this make sense? They didn't reach the last, they became the last. And it's fundamentally, we lost the prophetic spirit where I'm here to represent the will and the word of the Lord, not the will and the word of man. And people have to make a decision now. If the Lord is you've got to serve Him, if the Lord is you've got to serve Him, you really have to make a decision. I love how polarizing reality is at the moment. Because it's not really polarizing, it's just a matter of this right and wrong. It's good and evil. I need to make a decision, I think Christians just need to be loud and proud just like the Gays with their faith. Yeah. They just need to, yeah, I believe in the gospel, it is what it is. And I believe in the whole package, I'm going to say, sure, I love you, but it's what I believe. Yeah. I don't think killing babies is a good idea. If I like Donald Trump and I think he represents the scripture, what he does. So what it is, what it is, I am ready to get my politics in my faith and my faith in my politics. I'm ready to be a Christian nationalist. I'm ready to say that Jesus is Lord of all, not Lord of some. And I'm going to be loud about it. I think we just need courage, boldness, clarity and Christian, if every Christian shares a video, shares something, say their faith when they're on the dinner table, say something, we will have a fundamentally Christian nation. The problem I believe is cowards. Yeah. They just lack of courage, cowards being, yeah, the spirit of Ehab. So I think we just need to be loud and proud. Yeah. And I would say, like, pick up your sword, like the word of God is our weapon, is our only offensive weapon. So I mean, Christians, most Christians are not reading their Bibles. Most Christians, when they hear any attack, whether it is alarm, they don't know how to defend the scripture. So I think that that is, we have to just go back to our roots, basic Christian theology. Like with Islam, the first thing, the three things that they're going to come at you, Jesus is not God. It's basic Christology. You should know what the Bible says about Jesus being fully manfully God, the hypostatic union. Like early Christians knew that. Most Christians now don't know that. Second thing they'll come for is, okay, if Jesus is God, you believe into God, Trinity. They're going to attack our fundamental Christian beliefs. Most Christians are not going to be able to defend Trinitarian theology. They don't understand how to explain it. They're going to modalism and all these heresies accidentally. And then the third thing, they'll come after, well, the Bible has been changed and corrupted. Bibliology. So I think it's time, at least from what you can see historically. It's time, the church has to go back to our roots. We have to know our theology and we have to know how to defend the gospel. And going with what my husband said, be unashamed and courageous about it. Yeah. In UK, you're watching a lot of young white men become Muslim. And the reason is being Christianity is so gay. Like it's this soft gay past is like, "I'm a young pastor, I'm like this is too gay for me." But I'm over this nice Christianity, it's just not my thing. I like steak, I like guns, I like to fight, you know? There's a weird thing inside of me, I was ball-to-fight. It's like this instinctual, and I'm not going to suppress it for you to tell me to be more loving. I'm like, "No, I'm going to be who got called me to be, the balance of the Lord." I said, "Our fight is not against flesh, and butter is a fight." You know, the God, the Lord of war, the God, literally, is the Lord of hosts. He literally cares the eyes of the nation. So across the whole scripture, you can see this very masculine wall top of reality. And what's happening at the moment is a warning to the church. A lot of young white males in the UK and Europe are becoming Muslim, because the church is representing a gay version of Jesus. And a very feminist, femininity version of Jesus, and men are really zoning out. Like, you can critique and retain as much as you want. But we have represented a picture of Jesus that is so weird, who doesn't fight, fight, fight. And I'm ready to fight, I'm not just building, I'm ready to fight for the faith, content for the faith, defend for the faith. I'm ready to put my life in danger for the sake of the gospel, I'm ready to live for something, and die for something. And this is what is so catchy to the male revival that is taking place at the moment, because if we don't do that, the Muslim men are coming, and Islam is not here to immigrate, Islam is here to invade. So you're not importing nice empathetic people who want protection, you're importing warriors. And then you're not fighting back, I think coming from the Middle East, I'm like, dude, I was born in war. Yeah. So I don't know what peace feels like, you know, I don't even understand what peace is. Because since the moment I was born, I was surrounded every single day by five calls to prayer. Every single day I will listen to the Isaiah, or the color prayer saying there's no God but Allah and His One True Prophet Muhammad. Three times, five times a day, so from the first moment I was born, until I was 17 to I came to a Christian, West Australia, I listened to that message bombarded all around me, that's kind of what made me disagreeable, I think. But we're headed towards wartime, and the church will be eliminated if it doesn't pick the sword, which is the word, that we only have one offensive weapon, which is a sword, to not just be nice on loving and you'll have Jesus, but actually far for Jesus. You know, which is nice, it is nice. Exactly. Yeah, actually, yeah, it's true. Well, and this has been, this has been my message for 30 years, and I quite frankly, I've never fit within evangelicalism. I didn't grow up in evangelicalism. I don't understand evangelicalism, and today I really don't respect evangelicalism because I don't really see the heart of God, and I don't see a profound commitment to the gospel within the institutions of evangelicalism. And I think just as we have a judgment in the government, I think, Eva is in the beginning of a judgment of God, and there are evangelicals that are committed to Christ, there are less evangelical institutions that are committed to Christ. I think a lot of Christians are very frustrated because they are more conservative and they are more committed than their pastor, than their denomination, than their network, than their Bible college, than their seminary. The places they're supposed to be leading them are following them, and betraying them. And so, yeah, this is the problem that we find ourselves in, though, and it's going to be, it's honestly going to be younger generations that are starting new churches, new ministries, new wine skins, and we're seeing an older generation as well. I'm 55, we're grandparents now, but even men that are older than me, they're not finishing well. It's really frustrating, they're punking out at the end just as absolute cowards wanting to just not have any conflict or controversy and trying to reconcile in a third way darkness and light, good and evil, and/or adultery or apostasy or cowardice, and they're not finishing well. And so for younger men, there's not a lot of good examples of men running through the tape finishing well at the end of their race, and a lot of those organizations and institutions that you would hope would help you to plant your church or get ready to go out and preach. There's not a lot of Bible colleges, seminaries, denominations, or networks that I would actually encourage men of your age to say, "We'll go there," and they'll help you do that, and they'll launch you to that, actually, they could be the biggest and 10 years, they could be the biggest problem you have from the calling you have. They could get in the way, because in an effort to do the third way of tolerance, well, and what the third way is, it's writing the fence and shaping your crotch. I mean, that's what it is. And so if at some point those are the people holding you accountable, then in an effort to hold you accountable, what they're going to do is they're going to they're going to hamstring your ability to do what God has called you to do. And so I think what we're looking at is probably God raising up an entire new series of voices from outside the Western system. That's why you're getting a lot of attention, quite frankly, because you're saying things that the West needs to hear, but there's just an ignorance that most older pastors aren't frankly helping with them anyway. Most of your evangelical thought leaders, they truly think that that Islam and Sharia law somehow can be assimilated into Western civilization. It's like, no, they don't believe in the Constitution. They don't believe in our founding documents. They'd believe in the Quran. That's it. And that's it. And so it's converter die. That's what it is. And so I would agree with you. I think that the greatest existential threat to the future of Western civilization is Islam because there is no separation of church and state. There is no distinction. There's no freedom of religion, press. But those people are having a lot of children. And they're thinking in terms of generations. They really truly are. And they teach their children unlike Christians. Fortunately, Christians don't teach their children well. They teach their kids to do exactly the Sharia law and exactly the worldview that they have. And so we, as Christians, also need to get better at training our children to love the Lord and have convictions that we live by according to the Word of God. And if you're talking about the judgment, this is my prophetic warning to the West. Islam will be the judgment of God on the West and America if it chooses to abandon Christianity for the sake of liberalism. Islam and the judgment will be the judgment of God on nation that killed the next generation and cut and butcher the body parts of young people. There is a judgment. If you study Islam, Islam is the spirit of Babylon. Yeah. Islam is the literal, you're the expert on the possible. Islam is the literal manifestation of the spirit of Babylon. Yeah. Take a Venetian, destroy the temple, eradicate the men, take the next generation, and literally cast frame them. Yeah. Isaiah prophesied that in the Babylonian captivity, Daniel and his friends would be made use. So the problem of facing at the moment is that the Christian look at the Bible, think it's a conspiracy theory. Well, I'm here for the Middle East to tell you everything you see in Babylon, what happened to Israel and the Old Testament. It's what's happening to America now. Yeah. It's what's happening. And Islam is going to be the final execution of the judgment of God and as someone who escaped the Middle East, that happened to the church in Egypt. Yeah. So I'm not telling you about some conspiracy. Islam took over in 631 and you said the record of what was happening in Egypt and what's happening in America at the moment is exactly what happened to the Christian world of Egypt in 631. And if Egypt was 600 years Christian, what makes you think America that was what 250 years. What makes you think you kind of came the cycle of the judgment of God. And my personal testimony there is and I'm very passionate about it, is that before we came to Australia, my dad did the pastor. So I'm a second generation pastor converted a particular Muslim woman from Islam to Christianity. We were not planning to convert, she was getting abused by her husband. So we used to offer them shelter, help food. So because of Allah for her and we're preaching gospel, that particular Muslim woman became a Christian and she got baptized because of my dad. What we didn't know at the time before we came to Australia is that her husband was part of Muslim brotherhood, which is that the Hamas, with Egypt. In fact, Hamas was founded by Muslim brotherhood that the initial founder, a very big sophisticated smart Islamic terrorist group, they're operating across America, they're already here actually. So her husband was very angry, furious with my dad, so he decided he was going to take revenge at my dad by taking away what is most precious to him, which was me and my younger brother John. He decided he was going to kidnap us, behead us and then send both our bodies and heads in a bag at the revenge to my dad. He got two Muslim brotherhood men and they have done this a lot of times, that's what we've done after the seventh, they orchestrated and made a plan to come to our house seven in the morning as me and my younger brother John were coming down and said to go to school, they came to kidnap both of us every day we used to go to school on a yellow bus at 7 am. So as they came to kidnap me and my younger brother to Karah heads off, both of the three of them, the two Muslim brotherhood men and the ring leader, they all froze and they could not move at all. Supernaturally. Supernaturally. Yeah. They froze and they could not move it all onto me and my engraved brother. John, we went to the bus. The yellow bus drove to the end of the street and disappeared and the number of the buses appeared. The three Muslim brothers and men just started to move again. That guy was so confused. He was very furious and angry. So he came again the week after and he got to other Muslim brothers and men to execute the exact same plan. He was going to take revenge on my dad by beheading me and my younger brother. And they come again the week after and as me, I am my younger brother, John, we're about to go to school. Him and the two other Muslim brothers and men, they felt a pound of force, take their hand, put it behind their head and they froze and they could not move at all. They froze and they could not move at all. Until me and my younger brother, John went to the bus, the bus drove to the end of the street and it disappeared. A moment disappeared, they started to move again. See, we didn't know this was happening. If I knew this was happening, I wouldn't be going to school but then. I'd be like, Mom, can I please not go to school? Someone wants to behead me. I think she would have said, no problem. I'll send. I would have a day off. Amazing. No, but the reason we know it was happening is because this Muslim brother and men came to my family, to my dad a few weeks later and said to him, your God saved you and your family and your children from my evil and wicked hand. He became a Christian. He got baptized and now and his whole entire family are Christians. So I really believe God protected us from the Islam world so that we can preach you. I really believe some reason the Lord chose to save me. So I can speak this message. You tell people, Hey, there is a prophetic warning coming out of Christianity in the Middle East to big Eva. The Islam is the judgment of God that the four major churches of the ancient world, the Church of Jerusalem, the Church of Alexandria, the Church of Constantinople, the Church of Antioch, all of them do not exist anymore because of the judgment of God and that can happen to America. Thank you for being courageous enough to do that. Yeah, yeah. And I hope that it means even more coming from you guys to here, like for people listening to be courageous, to pick up your sword because we have this problem in America where everyone complains, right? The Liberals complained that they don't leave. We wish they would. Yeah, and the conservatives complain that all the cultures against us, everything is so hard. We're being persecuted and they have no idea. Absolutely no idea how good they have it. And so I think for people that don't want all this leftist ideology to overcome our country and ruin it and everything else, it's you do have to say something because you will get pummeled because these people that will literally be head children, you know, like that's a very extreme example that obviously just happened to everyone, but like a Christian, we'd never heard of a Christian doing that, you know, it's the completely different ideology and it is religion, it's not culture. And so it helps to hear from you guys, like you've been through so much persecution that you're not just like you need to be strong or like you have done it. And so thank you for doing it. Thank you for speaking from that and I'm so glad the Lord has used you guys in that way and it gives me a lot of courage and especially raising my son as you were saying, like to know that this is what he'll be facing and these are the things that I need to build up in him so that he's aware and has this word, this spirit to fight with. So thank you guys for being here. Where can we find you for people that are interested in this discussion? All socials, you can just go Stadra, this two of me, me and my younger brother, who looks exactly like me, my wife, this is his wife. So just go online, YouTube, Facebook, IG, rumble, I don't know what. And echo church or echo church. We're in Sydney, Australia, we're planning a church in Florida soon. Thank the Lord. So yeah, we're very excited for what God is about to do. Yeah, thanks for having us, this is me. Fast Mark, you want to close and prayer over there? Yeah, yeah. Father God, I pray encouragement on our friends and God, I pray for an anointing, a fresh anointing as they are stepping into a new season. God, I pray against the enemy has serviced their works in the faxing out. I thank you for a multi-generational legacy and for faithful generations that have gone before I pray. The children would come into this family and household and that there would be faithful generations to follow and that this would be a multi-generational legacy of gospel preaching and faithfulness to the kingdom of God and the Lord Jesus Christ. Lord, I pray as well for their next season that you would give them wisdom. Where is the best place to set up base of operation? And Lord, I pray that you would protect and preserve their safety and health and well-being. I pray for the friendship within their marriage to just always be sweet and strong so that home could be a refuge in a joyful place. And Lord, I pray that as they have needs they would let us know so that we could pray for them, we could support them and just practically we could find ways to set them up for success. Lord, I've learned a few things, the hard way of how to set things up in America and if they're wanting to come on behalf of our Lord and our nation, we welcome them, we receive them and I pray that everyone who hears this would be interseeing and praying for them so that when they do come to set up shop here in our nation, they could do so in a way that would be most effective and most helpful because the message is most timely and most needed. And so Lord, we love them, it's an honor to meet them. We pray for a portion of grace that they have not yet experienced so that they could do more in the future than they have to this point. Jesus, good night. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thanks so much for having us. Thank you.