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was there and tom said well i'm your grandpa actually goes not the one i see all the time yeah scarcity uh they also call i don't know why because they are the pancas but they just call mom hurry which is great and they only call dad ponky so ponky's the best yeah and then addy started calling him ponky the donkey mm-hmm outstanding yeah and then i said what's everybody else and she goes hurry the burry uh daddy the baddie mama the llama and i said what is axel and she goes uh the asshole so pretty good also alexi here's what i'm dealing with with axel alexi sent me a video because i'm in new york and uh they're not in the city and it was um a turkey with its little turkey babies uh turkey chicks i wonder what you call baby turkeys baby turkeys sure walking behind the the mom turkey and it's just the most beautiful video and then at the end you just hear axel go oh they're so cute should we cook them and just the screeching tires of from should we cook them from excuse me they're so cute i mean he's eating turkey he likes turkey you probably love turkey turkey sandwich get that young get that turkey veal that little that young turkey um but it was it was a it was a wonderful visit and um and so great to see them and they're very the kids are very particular about who picks them up from camp who drops them off from camp they feel like they want a real fairness as far as who gets to hang out the most of the ponkies yeah we also watched the i want to say the second pirates of the caribbean movie uh-huh because the kids are trying to watch them all this summer because they've been invited to a birthday party they're they've been invited to a birthday party they've been told they're watching the fourth pirates of the caribbean movie at the birthday party gotcha so they want to be up to speed we watched an hour of it one night and mom and dad watched with us and i swear to god when my kids watch half a movie the amount they're like when do we get to finish it like you could not hear them over mom saying when are we going to finish it mom this movie's scary is it scary for the boys no not really it's they definitely did a good job of like uh frightening not scary gotcha yeah um but uh yeah it was lovely how have you how have you been uh i've been good i'm trying to think of what i've been up to uh yeah mackenzie's back home uh she went home for her father's birthday so very nice yeah that's been fun and yeah i don't know i'm gearing up when this comes out i'm gonna be like almost on my way down to comic-con which we've talked about how yeah yeah yeah it's blowing your mind that i'm going to comic-con but i'm gonna be going down to comic-con looking forward to that uh yeah then i'll be coming to the east coast uh in august for a big old stretch so we're doing our live shows august 11th august 12th correct no i think it's the 12th we're in philadelphia and the 13th we're in boston and august 11th you're out of luck yeah august 11th i'm flying to philly but i'm very excited about that very we're very excited to be doing our live family trips we did one i guess in amsterdam so these are first domestic live family trips i'm very excited uh those are at the city wineries and yeah city winery in philly and then city winery in boston so that's uh yeah i'm excited about those and if you're going to the boston shows a high probability of a of a punky the donkey so that's uh yeah i'm excited about those and if you're going to the boston shows a high yeah yeah yeah keep your eyes peeled keep your eyes peeled um well uh anna gosteyer joined us and um she's just wonderful yeah she's the best she's still she's still on broadway and schmigadoon she's still schmigging it over on broadway and tony nominated um yeah remarkably talented and uh and a great combo so uh enjoy anna gosteyer and thank you guys for listening so i don't have headphones and also that's okay yeah that's it you're also uh surrounded by plants which i love i did that on purpose to soothe you yeah i did that on purpose to soothe you it is very soothing it's immediately soothing anna the last time i was supposed to see you in person you had a you had a broadway mishap what happened well weren't we all supposed to get together after your show and you uh you had to bail you had to bail that was rough by the way i can't believe it doesn't happen more but did it really did you have to it's my intermission it happened mid-show it was terrible okay it was terrible i've never is on stage in the uh tony award-winning schmigadoon and it's a very exciting time for broadway maya rudolph is on broadway rachel dratch is on broadway anna gasteyer is on broadway and uh there was going to be cocktails and we received a text from anna tell us tell us what happened why you had to cancel drinks afterwards well i'm you know it's i'm glad that it wasn't explosive diarrhea because you know that's happening right now that's that's what everyone was thinking up till every news story every news story keeps leading with explosive diarrhea parasite like they don't even like leave it to the imagination they don't even like leave it to the imagination they don't even like leave it to the imagination like a gastrointestinal discomfort they just tell you what it is no um you know what it was we i i fainted mid-show or offstage yeah mid-show i think i had like a blood sugar crash or something we had just been going we went straight through you know press press press press press tony's tony's tony's tony's opening opening opening like all of that and i really you know whatever we all work hard but this was like in a in a career of of of pretty busy times like this was i didn't have a day off for 13 weeks i counted yeah um just because we were always doing stuff on mondays which is um the one day off you get on broadway it's supposed to be a rest day and and from speaking to you from speaking to dratch who was also uh tony nominated it does seem like a totally second job that is running in parallel with being on broadway which is doing the award press for a show yeah and they're voting on you the same time that you're doing the press all day so the shows themselves actually matter quite a bit not that they're not they're not they're not shows don't matter but you have particular stress placed upon those because the you know a third of the audience is conceivably uh tony voters so it's it's pretty stressful anyway i was tired and then we did the tony's and then the following monday we did the cast recording and then i came and did your show and then you know just like a lot of running around and whatever and i think i just was like under i really don't know it was like um being an active wilting flower i felt like a wardrobe area in the underpass of our show and we usually sit and enjoy some snacks and chat um in between entrances and i was sort of chatting and then in fact it was hilarious my friend richard who's in the ensemble was like what's everyone's word of the day and i said purposeful real meaning like i'm gonna put one foot in front of the other because i was super tired that day and i just um immediately failed on my word of the day because i i wilted it was like instant like all of a you know when you're like they're gonna faint or shit my pants or barf like something was happening and remember i'm in a series of petticoats a really huge wig and hat so add all of like that already i'm like she's gonna blow like i didn't think it meant what that means is the costume designer was praying for faint over uh barf or shitty pants based on the the how expensive we were actually in the wardrobe department and they like zoomed to those barf backs like you've never seen that before like i was in a trash can in front of me in a barf bag and like it was like faster than a parent with a toddler a carsick toddler um yeah and then i fainted and then i went home and then i i just went to sleep so it was completely fine like i just think i was exhausted i was there and did you have more on stage uh activity to do that's what was so insane was that i was awaiting in act i have a pretty light act one and i was awaiting my third entrance and it was like i i could hear I could hear the orchestra and I could hear queue coming and uh just the sheer panic of like and then you know somebody like we're gonna get the stage manager because you know like a lot of people be like hey hey do you think you're gonna make it you know just really stressed high-pitched um uh you know crisis management and then um like them zooming by with my the all the my understudy was is in the ensemble so like her zooming by and then her running up and then hearing my lines out of somebody else's face wow is it about halfway through the show it was almost the end of act one so like i said i've never done this before in my entire career like i've i've never but it's pretty much just puking or like uh ankle breaks or something like that the crazy thing is i i went to a couple nights earlier i had been at um at dratch's show rocky horror yeah and a similar thing happened where one of the leads was it made it to intermission because you know unlike you a pro yeah and uh absolutely but i admit it it was crazy you know and i guess just back seized up and uh you know it it really speaks to understudies that uh you know more often than not obviously they're just seamless and they go on and you know i think uh you know uh audiences especially audiences who see um the first act of the star and then the understudy like obviously they're going to be disappointed to miss you in the second act but they probably also leave being like you know what that understudy really knows what they're doing like it's kind of i guess i i mean i was really like and i just sort of slunk home i mean i slunk i literally got out of my costume and got home but i and i've been on stage before where you had a person a lead say something exit and then their understudy shows up and it's a very funny moment because you're like that's no longer the person i was doing the show with you know and i'm the person i was doing the scene with and half the time the audience barely notices but um yeah it was it was just dramatic i i you know as dratch keeps texting me hashtag blown adrenals because i think we were both just like our adrenal i mean it's just so much to manage all at once and my son graduated my my baby graduated from high school the tuesday after the tony so we just had it was like a very loaded month and it was a great month um and certainly it was nice that shmigadoon won best musical and i think it was a great month and i think it was a you know obviously made it all kind of worth it i actually kind of like it when uh sometimes the the body of a person like you needs to be like your uh your work ethic and ambition are great anna but we're gonna shut things down for a day my therapist says exactly the same thing and actually what i will tell you is that so like i said we did the cast recording and then i did your show and then um something oh oh we went to oh mary to see maya because i knew that i had to see her before she left town and you know all that she fit in with me and i'm like oh my god she finished yesterday actually so um and you know with the two sets of eight show weeks like your schedules are slightly different so it was like i could only go on a monday night it was the only way i was gonna be able to see her so on tuesday i actually texted my co-star sarah chase i was like oh my god i don't think i can do this today you know just kind of in the sometimes you do that and the other person is like yeah go get your venti coffee and meet me there you know and i did and then the same thing was true when i started the show with my purposeful word of just like i'm tired but i just have to slog through this and then that was it i think my body was like remember that time 48 hours ago that you weren't feeling good like that's what this was so i had i just ended up taking off the rest of the day and it was great i was like new the next day are you a fainter uh historically do you know okay i've got a buddy who faints semi-regularly and he was at his uh it's a drag yeah his wife's birthday party and he passed out and everyone was freaking out and his wife was like no he was he was due for a faint he's just a fainter just yeah just a faint no i know some fainters but no no it really i don't like you know it i really it's like i don't like losing control what a big surprise i would you know i i think what would be most disappointing when i if i actually ever saw you faint is that it would be way less of a stage faint like i want to watch you act fainting because i think it'd be very funny doing it but i bet the actual you fainting is i've actually fainted a lot in shows but um yeah because it's even right in a faint scene just for the fun of it you know but in real life it is you just kind of put your head on the table and say don't talk to me all right so you might i'm like really i feel like you're yeah this is uh it's not you're on the stern if you're watching this on youtube uh you might faint yeah exactly uh you grew up in the dc area i did but like the heart of proper not even dc area not even the area yeah this is like dc like how far from the capital downton um i grew up three blocks from the capital it's unbelievable it's crazy like you just don't think about people actually growing up there no it's weird um in fact yeah it is weird and i don't think about it very much but yeah i did and so like stuff like like of course i we only had stick shift cars because it was the 80s you know and um like my mom taught me to stick shift on capitol hill which is the terrible idea like at rush hour you know what i mean so like learning how to like shift while you're going up in major like with the you know rayburn house office building to your right strange well you probably got pretty good at it very very quickly yeah yeah dignitaries just constantly holding up dignitaries sitting senators all honking were your parents in politics yeah uh my dad was a lobbyist so yes you're not allowed to say that anymore but back then it was not an embarrassing job to say your dad had um but yeah he was a lawyer uh and he he did he was a con um campaign manager for a congressman out of oregon and yeah he was in political sphere and then i think seth knows this but um it's kind of cool my parent my dad had like my parents had three proper chapters like they grew up in the midwest they came to dc for a you know political adjacent career much like people would go to new york for broadway or la for film or whatever and then after we left they um after we let they'd rate up raised us they retreated i guess that's not right quite the right word they relocated to new mexico and then my dad had a full small town politician life he was the mayor of corrales new mexico which is a stone's throw from where my wife grew up exactly new mexico it's like a kind of a really rural groovy town in new mexico and he was the mayor and stuff like that so yeah i grew up around a lot of politics big and small i say this with love can i just say and run this theory by you that people who choose to live in deserts are a little little weird like in a lovable way and again my wife's from there i love my in-laws but like to opt to opt into desert life is you you're kind of like i'm a little freaky just fyi i yeah i guess it depends where i mean i think there's like a strong vein of like american libertarianism that exists because it's people that have like a frontiering capacity to go without water yeah yeah right type of thing i don't know it's beautiful it is beautiful it's gorgeous i i but i i've kind of learned that there's a uh what i've learned from my interactions with desert people is uh they're they're gonna zig when you you think they're gonna zag that's fascinating i find that frankly and again i'll probably get canceled for this but if this is it then i'm that's sort of a sad state of affairs yeah uh i find eros more zag with zig than new mexico right and i have relatives in both states um but i do find it i find it gorgeous my son ulysses which um is he last year did one of the most fantastic old school 17 year old things you could do which is he wanted to do high altitude training i don't know why i put that in quotes because it was actual um but up in in new mexico right so we were looking at all these like he's a cross-country runner and we were looking at these camps in like colorado and all these places and he was like i don't know why i put that in quotes because it was actual and where my parents live in albuquerque is like 7 000 almost 7 000 feet so um i was like you could go live with grandma and granddad and he was like okay cut to my son living in my parents senior retirement community for seven weeks oh yeah in the summer last summer i mean uh that is first of all it's so hot in new mexico in the summer so for but i will say if some it tells me that ulysses is serious about cross-country running because if you wanted to be better you'd be like i'm gonna go to the highest place yeah that is the most uncomfortably hot right we're like five thousand dollars for like a week and you really for high altitude training have to be at altitude for a considerable amount of time yeah supposedly to help acclimate your body and you know plus he gets all the perks of you know living in a senior retirement community yeah yeah obviously are amazing what did he say what were his like hangouts with your parents was he uh what was so funny because it was like he he was all excited about it and then because it is so hot as seth said he was like so wait i'm gonna go running at six and then i was like you're gonna start changing someone's password yeah and it'll take you to 415 and that's dinner i would say he got he got everything you would want out of a cross-country camp for free except for uh anyone to push him physically you know what i mean like yeah the second fastest person he probably met was like i would say probably 4x to 12x slower than him yeah but he did um he did all kinds of things like he he volunteered because again he was like the he was 17 in a senior community so he was like the star and healthy a health like with a huge yeah yeah just lots of fixing and moving stuff fantastic here by the way it's like it's it literally he ended up going to like college essay camp when this is over just write about this wait so he did you know what he did he did a podcast he did a podcast of his own making that was to interview old people the questions on the common app which is the thing you apply for college and it was amazing it was like asking you know 86 year olds like what's that what's an event in your life that really changed a perspective on you know like shit that they asked the 17 year old and he did this he that's what he ended up doing was this like little podcast the whole summer and then writing his college essay about that fantastic that's great i was great um very smart boy and he made a lot of friends he made a lot of uh friends in their 80s which was pretty great um like friends that my parents aren't even really friends with like people that he would be like you know i'm going to the western cafe with don and i would say they're going to be lifelong friends but um just on an actuarial it's going to be short-lived but yeah for don for don for don yeah i think don ulysses will be a lifelong he did um volunteer crew on a hot air balloon which is a very new mexico yeah like some random person was like oh you ought to go with my friend and he did and that was at 5 a.m just like some weird and then and he said it was great because some of the hot air ballooners had beef with other hot air balloons by the way i by i have such a crippling fear of uh heights plus balloons yeah that the like the even a bigger barrier to entry for me would be some random guy who has beef with other balloons that's not even up there but as you know my favorite thing on planet earth is petty rivalry so i mean also steph you were in one of my all my friend my my best one of my best friends favorite sketch of all time so i've you're i know exactly what you're gonna say by the way ahead of it hot air balloon mystery theater yeah it's one of the funniest stupid sketches we were ever a part of it was a murder mystery that took place on a hot air balloon i also want to clarify seth you're not you're not afraid of a regular helium balloon no okay just well just the ones that take you up yeah that's a fair legit fear yeah uh mike sure it's a mike sure classic and the reason i think about all the time is it was it was a photo in the sno hallway for all my years there but it was mike sure wrote it ian mckellen played a sherlock holmes type guy and it was called hot air yeah who was trying to find a killer in the basket of a hot air balloon and every single person that was peak all of us just crushing it everybody was hoping like this oh yeah and then i remember there was a chase scene where it was just a lot of people everybody running around inside the balloon yeah very fun i i like that i was like oh on and i we only overlap for one year and that was probably our that was probably our tippity top working together sarah blazin oh sarah blazin yeah you're in sarah blazin i wasn't sarah blazin i know we never worked together which is a tragedy it's a tragedy hey we're gonna take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors support comes from sony pictures home entertainment with the breadwinner hey budgie hey sufi very exciting maybe there's a rainy day coming up for you i'm i got one right now and uh it's fun to have a family comedy to watch absolutely and this is straight from the theaters it's now available to watch at home on digital you can 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don't even know how to describe it to you you know what they call it in in paris what's that la marais or la marais one of those you've been i haven't but i would love to and let me just tell you that uh it's just wonderful you know what i mean you're just in a home that the owners have taken great care and attention to make comfortable for you on your vacation and you're just amongst everyone you're you're a me that's friend poshy oh you're a me yeah booking a trip on airbnb makes for a better trip you could be traveling with family you could be looking to discover authentic and local experiences you'd be taking a trip with a group of friends a group of a me um so you grow up in uh you're in dc uh you have one sibling i do older younger older how much older stephen gasteyer uh two and a half years okay gotcha so you're close you and stephen we are closer than we yeah we're friendly i would say we're very different he's um an academic he was in the peace corps he's like super actively helping the world whereas i wear wigs um were you guys uh was it contentious growing up were you no never been contentious we've never been contentious but but i would say we're closer weirdly the older we've gotten just because we have more i don't know like just like helping old people and stuff like that it kind of kicked in um yeah yeah it seems like your son got stephen the stephen helping old people gene he's got a lot of stephen gasteyer in him he's just really he's really kind my brother's definitely the kind sibling like he stays in touch with the other relatives like he is out to be i'm terrible i'm a terrible correspondent and um well you know what josh is the stephen i would say josh has done a lot better job staying in touch with dark is that true yeah i mean i'm not uh i don't My board isn't full of gold stars, but I've, yeah. That's good, that's good, yeah. In the contest with me, you're crushing it. That's all that matters, by the way. Low bar. Yeah. Yeah, he lives in Michigan. We live, we all, my family's spread out. So it's very American that way. Like very, everybody's sort of spread hither and yon. And, you know, that was kind of expected of us. Like you kind of go where work is. Where would the Gosteyers go on vacation? Where were you guys getting away to? So famously, we weren't, my dad was technically a lawyer, but we were not like super well-to-do. But so there were a lot, and the family homestead, the like Gosteyer original German people that came on my dad's side, landed in Nebraska. So early on, we did a lot of car trips. Like in, like not well-planned. And very hot. And we had a VW Bug for a long time. We would drive with two kids and a dog in a VW Bug. I mean, this generation, I know this is like the oldest lament in the world, but literally our activity was the game Mastermind. Do you remember that game? With a thousand tiny fucking pieces? Yeah. And we'd be in there like trying to like play mini Mastermind while driving across the Great Plains from Washington. It's like a peg game, right? Little pegs. Just a tiny, tiny peg game. Yeah. I don't even remember that. It feels a little bit like, it has the, has the You Sunk My Battleship kind of. Yes. And my memory of it is only involves like VW exhaust. Right. And sort of hot Plains air and a little bit of car sickness. So I am not, it didn't become a lifelong favorite game. I, we are of the generation when someone talks about pegging, I think they mean playing Mastermind in the back of a station wagon on a long drive. That's exactly right. And it turns out, I will tell you just from some of the side-eyed looks, I get from my younger writing staff, that is not the pegging they're talking about. It's zestier than that. It's a zestier. Yeah. Who was the dog that was on that ride? Oh God. So, so many dogs. It's so weird that I grew up in like a super city urban area, but we always had my mom. This is insane. My mom bred dogs for a while. It's like fun pastime. We had these. In DC? I, what we went to, so I went to the public schools through fourth grade and then we were like sort of airlifted out and shoved across town. Um, to these fancy schools that were like expensive. So my mom, I don't know. One of her like money-making schemes was to breed dogs. I don't know. My mom was a teacher. It wasn't like, yeah. Anyway. Um, yeah. So we had these, we had, we had this, these really cute. They're called Sealy ham terriers. They were, did you ever read the, um, like where the wild things are? Sure. Yeah. It's the little white terriers. They're sort of like scruffy. Yeah. Bodies. Um, and so I dunno, we had one, they'd won one of them won the Westminster dog show. And so we got one and then my mom bred that she was bred. You, I guess if you get like a purebred dog, you have to breed it by decree or something. Um, and so we ended up having puppies, like a bunch of puppies for a while until they were sold or adopted or whatever. Um, and then by the way, we've always adopted dogs ever since. Um, and then we had like, we found a collie in, in the middle of downtown DC. So we had her for a while. And then we had, we, my, my mom, they adopted a rescue Whippet for my brother who farted constantly. He was like super skinny and super gassy. Like just, it was anyway, it was just a real menagerie. Whippet also sounds like the name, the sound it would make. He would just like all the time and farted. He had a bad life. I mean, I think we saved him from his sad, like dog racing life, but I'm not sure it was much of an improvement. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? So what he's like, if he could talk, he'd be like, oh, this is because of what happened before I met you. Yeah. A hundred percent. Or I don't even, he also, I don't know how smart he was to be honest. I think he just was sort of a lot of internalized trauma. So, um. He was an athlete. He was just an athlete first. He was a broken athlete. He had been bred too early. So, um, yeah, so we just had a variety of dogs and then we would drive. My grandparents lived in the Midwest, so we would drive to visit them. They, but they died when I was pretty young. So then, but then after that, we would drive to New Brat, to Nebraska. To see these two old spinster ants, like out of a, uh, you know, Wizard of Oz or something. They both, they, they were like little, they were named Aunt Henrietta and Aunt Winifred. And they had a tiny, tiny little, uh, farm in Loop City, Nebraska. And they had a barn that was complete, like at 45 degree angle and a big old green stew to baker. And the only, you would go to Phillips 76 for dinner. That would like be the big event. Cause the Phillips had like a little like restaurant. And so we would drive and visit them. And then we did a few like great. American car trips, like the Grand Canyon and the Grand Tetons and the Badlands and a bunch of those things, which I'm super psyched that we did. Cause we saw a lot of like American, you know, national parks and things like that. I do want to double back to the fact that you had aunts that were, uh, sketch comedy characters. Yeah. And they had little, little granny apple faces, like that. And they lived together, they lived together. And my dad referred to him, them as his spinster aunts. And nobody. Yeah. They knew like who they were related to or whether or not they were related to my grandfather. I think they were probably my grandfather's sisters, but I didn't know. But when you showed up, they did know who you guys were. They weren't just, uh, yeah, they knew who we were. I mean, I don't really remember. We were young, but, and very, very hot, you know, cause remember it was, I want to reiterate a VW bug driving from Washington, D.C. Probably like that diesel quality. Yeah. And there was no AC. Right. And it was probably like an AM radio. I think when you see a VW bug now, and I think it gives you a pang of nostalgia and you might wish you had one, but nobody wishes they had one to drive from D.C. to Nebraska. No. Yeah. Not the old, the old variety. Like there, there are newer ones. Our mother had one that was like the last bug that they made. Yeah. They had the little well in the back. Do you remember the little well? I don't know. I don't know if the modern ones had the well. The shape was the classic shape. Yeah. Yeah. I do want to, just because we're talking about spinster aunts. Sure, sure. Just give a quick shout out to Clusterfunk Christmas. Oh my God, spinster aunts. Which is, for, for, in, in this era where there's so many TV shows, our listeners might have missed the, the, the Rachel. If they like Holiday Fair. Holiday Classic. Yeah. Dratch and I wrote a parody of the holiday Hallmark movies called A Clusterfunk Christmas. And we play the sisters Clusterfunk. It's really wonderful. It's really fun to do. We, we have another one, which I'm really hoping we get to do. We wrote a second one where the spinster aunts go to a, you know, a lot of these holiday movies, it'll be like a made up European country. So we go to a tiny European nation and we, and the two princes inexplicably fall in love with some middle-aged ladies. Oh, great. Because that's the standard of beauty there. But we go for a strudel contest. Oh, you, are you going to a what concert? A strudel. Okay. We're going to compete in an international strudel competition. Sure. Of course. Yeah. As you do, but I'm dying to make it because there's, there's a really good part for you. Great. You're very queen of Christmas. I was, I was going to say, I didn't know when we were going to brush against it, but Sugar and Booze, your Christmas album. Yeah. Is so good. Yeah. I came to your show when you were at the Bourbon Room, which is since shut down in Los Angeles. And I like, I, I looked up, I like Googled last Christmas, like, oh, is she coming again? Is she doing it again? She's coming this year. I'm coming. Oh, great. Well then, yeah. I can't remember. A good venue in LA. I have two nights there. It's, I will, I will a hundred percent come. It was, you know, I love, I love Christmas and I love Christmas shows and I love getting tickets to sort of unique things. And I've like, I've seen the LA Philharmonic play along with Home Alone at the Walt Disney Concert Hall. I've done that a couple of times. It's amazing. It's wonderful. If you haven't done it, you must. But your show is also like. It is, it is top level holiday entertainment. And also you have so many friends that I'm friends with and it's just so nice to see like your Mike Hitchcocks and your people like that. It has such a, thank you for saying that. And I, I'm, I'm so happy that it, it gives people a sense of tradition because it really is rooted in that. And every year I'm like, is anybody, are people sick of this yet? But the nice thing about holiday is that it is. It grants you this tradition. It grants you the right to revisit something and to be sort of, to, we have so few kind of common rituals like that. I feel, um, that it's really nice to be able to do that, you know, together and, and enjoy the same moments together. So I, I, I love it. I love touring. We have a lot of dates on the calendar. We're also playing, if you like symphonic, we're also, I'm also doing the Long Beach Symphony this year. I know that's out there. So that's if some of those, some of the songs we have now have symphonic. So there's a few symphonic so fun numbers, which is so fun again. And you know, me, I try to like nothing cornier and more hilarious and like make the orchestra do bits with you, which is my favorite. So I must love it too. That must be so fun. They're always resistant and then they love it. Yeah, I did Boston Pops a couple of years ago and it was like mind blowing to have, you know, I was in it cause it's just stick. It's just literally recycled old bits, but it's very, very fun. Yeah. Did you, uh, when you said the great American tour. You said the great American road trip to the Grand Canyon and to the Badlands and Teton. the vw yeah so what is what how long is the drive is that like how many nights are you staying to montana i mean i don't i'm not asking my parents like was it was it did it feel rollicking or did it feel like just a sludge across the sludge 100 sludge okay just agonizing miserable we must have taken another car because we had a super beetle okay for a while anyway all i remember is like a mound of stuff and then a bottle of jim beam which my parents would we would get to like a motel and they would they would get like the ice and put it in the sink and the little plastic cups and have a little jim beam yeah i have a strong memory of that i mean i don't remember it like in a negative way i mean i'm it just wasn't i mean i think all road trips in the end probably are more you know uh my brother and sister-in-law we like are the most passionate road trips in the world and i think that's what i'm most passionate about road trippers they drive from michigan here they drive from michigan to they he teaches at michigan state university i'm i'm always stunned by it because i'm good for about four hours and then right you know kick off like one book on tape and then i'm you know my butt starts hurting and i'm done i based on uh who you are as a person i could picture the gostars like like show tunes and and whatnot but it doesn't seem like maybe you guys were that family we had like an am radio it was 70s yeah yeah so could you even find like would you find a music station on the am radio or just to have something i wish i had better stories i think we probably sang like 99 bottles of beer on the wall yeah that's it that's how you know things are dire yeah that's rough that's what the jim beam's for yeah totally i mean my family do you guys do car trips with your kids at all or families we don't i would say four is about the limit that yeah that we do i don't think we've done anything longer than that yeah yeah we i mean i've i drove cross-country but just me and my dog uh so that's different that's a whole different that's a whole different thing that's a different book did you have you done it with your two kids do you and charlie take them on the road we so because i i'm we tour when i tour as a singer or i'm sure you stand up or whatever like i've done years where i've tried to arrange it around regions so like we had an amazing trip that was memphis tallahassee tampa like sort of the south like georgia and whatever i guess you would call that the panhandle um where we'll do those drives so that like so you can drive up the florida central highway which sounds insane but like there's you can stop and see alligators and like there's a ton of like crazy good southern cooking and things like that so we'll have trips like that and we've done a fair amount of western because as i mentioned my a lot of charlie's family lives in arizona and then i have family in new mexico so we've driven like we did an amazing trip one year where we went from albuquerque there's a lot of like there's um carlsbad caverns i don't know if you've ever done that um which are these buried caves and then white sands have you ever done that seth no i'm it's talked about it all the time yeah yeah if you're ever in new mexico it's a good getaway from your in-laws and it's also a good getaway from your in-laws and it's also a good um you it's really weird and beautiful yeah we we did that drive and then we drove to marfa we drove down to tucson and then to marfa along wherever that is in texas the bottom of texas basically it was now what what are the vibes in the car with your kids i mean obviously this is a different era yeah different era i do like a ton of research on a fun bonding book on tape like a tony hillerman i did tony hillerman um mystery that way nobody listens but me me and then i talk about it the whole time we i mean i i wonder if it's just and i'm like i just loved the book how i'm that lady you know these red rocks remind me of that one scene we did do books on tape when we would go on drives when we go we would go skiing and they were like it was like four hour drives to go skiing and we'd wake up crack it on and we get in the car and we would listen to books on tape and i mean obviously pre-phones there were no distractions otherwise yeah and uh i loved it i know we did i actually read red hatchet you know the one where the kid gets lost in the wilderness anyway that's a good like ya book we listen we so with my parents we drove to durango once just to see like an old old western town um we've done some field trips in new mexico too and there's a lot of like chaco canyon and like those cool there's some there's some wild like prehistoric not prehistoric but you know ancient ruins and things like that which are cool in new mexico but yeah i had i my book on tape and i had a bunch of books on tape and i was like oh my gosh tell me if you think this is true like i aspired as a kid to have the same taste as my parents as our parents like i wanted to like the things they liked yeah so i i would like push myself to like maybe get past the initial like resistance to like uh um listening to like like jeeves and wooster wooster stories until i sort of fell in love with them whereas i feel like my kids anything anytime i'm like i like this they're like dude by the way you were probably like that too and then later you have appreciation for it do you know what i mean you don't remember that you were you were probably scowling i don't think i was scowling about it though i really don't whereas i feel like they i don't know i just feel like we like like even today like my parents are visiting and i just have like saved i feel like i get um instagram uh reels or like tiktok i just save all the things they suggested to me and it's all like like don rickles clips or old golden girls clips or things like uh bob newhart clips like things they liked and then i liked and then the the algorithms suggested to me and i'm showing it back to them and i just worry that i'm and my kids don't care about my taste they don't like don rickles no man eventually i think your kids are a little too young also i think that we you know your kids have so much more access to audiobooks now like right they listen to your eldest seth like actively listens to audiobooks and it was sort of we did that's true so he understands even know about them we didn't know that they existed right my mom would have to go to the library and get a bunch of cassettes tapes yeah we listened to a lot of comedy albums um yeah my generation our whole generation did i mean that's something you could probably pit play for the one who does like audiobooks you know um you just slip them in there uh it is my curiously my mom loves audiobooks loves them but i actually keep i have to it's a whole thing they have to like keep the audible credits coming because she's she listens to them all day long yeah all day long yeah which is great real quick question i know we've talked about it before uh if you listen to a book uh on an audiobook would you tell people you've read it would you use the uh the word red great question um i tend to flip in between yeah so that's fair again yeah it depends on your level of engagement i would say i think that's true i think that's based on how much you're actually listening so now kindle does this thing which is kind of great where you can whisper sync so like yeah right so if you like get to the point in the book then like i'll do it a lot like when i'm making dinner or doing dishes or whatever and then i just listen to my book while i'm you know yeah doing some other task and then the night you read the book yeah and then for a while i would pin i would which i like i could only go on the treadmill if i was listening to the thing like i would try to tag you know habit combine or whatever that's called i think that's right yeah habit combined i think we should start it if it's not what people are saying i like it there's a better it's a better there's a better term for it it's not multi-task it's not multitasking it's like letting it's basically to develop a habit it's basically to develop a habit put something nice with the habit that you don't like so for me that's like okay i don't want to go to the gym but if i whatever if i listen to the cereal podcast or you know family trips with the myers brothers i can only listen to it when i'm on the treadmill so it gives you like a motivation yeah is it habit stacking habit stacking did you google that i did yeah i wasn't going to pretend like i just came up with it on my own both of you like the way josh was like oh yeah no it's just like you're always googling you can always see when seth is in the middle of an interview he goes like there's a quick check out on it uh-huh habit stacking but i don't actually think habit stacking i mean this could not be more boring but i don't actually think it covers it it's about putting something yeah yours is trying yours is like habit soothing you're like you're like you're stacking the sooth yeah yeah it's a suit stack is that good josh sooth stack yeah it's great yeah thanks you can you can even trademark that one because no one wants it soothe stacks if you google suit stack i hope it says i came up with it um really i have a really good friend and this is not at all what we're talking about i'm just going to say it but i was really we're not that organized because of show business ruining every vacation always and or just like having to integrate a lot of our travel around work like just sort of making the whole thing kind of paste itself together which i realized might just be a me problem but um we have a good friend and there's something i wish i'd always done which was such a great when you know You know, there's school holidays, there's like the winter holiday and then 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And every midwinter, they would do an American city and every spring they would do an international place for travel, which I always thought was so cool. Like, it's just a cool way to like define making sure your kids see the world, you know? Yeah, it's also just a good way to put a marker out there. Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some of our sponsors. Support comes from First Leaf. Hey, Bashi. Yeah, Sufi, how are you? I'm good. You know what I enjoy at the end of the day, Bashi? What's that? I like to reflect back on how close I am with my brother. Oh, that's nice. With a nice glass of wine. Oh, yeah. But I get a little intimidated by wine, Bashi. You know, which one to pick, what's good, what's bad. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. We're not that. We're not schooled. No, we're not oneophiles, I think is what they're called. Yeah. First Leaf solves all these hesitations you might have. They deliver premium wines straight to your door every month. 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Like if you said, if we were to ask them, like, what's the greatest family trip you guys ever took? Oh, my God. I think that Marfa trip was pretty cool. That's awesome. Because we saw so many, it was well, like, it was well-planned. Like, it was the perfect ratio of, like, driving to interesting, weird things. The food was great. And we, it was like a. It was like a good combination of, like, we stayed at a hotel called the Dusty Boots. For some reason, my son always brings up Dusty Boots. That's great. You know. We have, our parents once ate at a restaurant called Krabby Bills, and I feel like it's just, like, completely entered our vernacular. It's what we call someone who's in a bad mood. They're Krabby Bills. Oh, you got to pop by Krabby Bills. Yeah. It's like on the way up to Cape Cod, they have that old English lettering, you know, because to indicate that you're in an old timey place. Oh, you're close when you hit the oifter half. We're almost there. Hey, guys. It's the oifter half. So stupid. But, yeah, I would think, I think my kids probably really enjoyed that. And we did, like, we did London. I had never, weirdly, I've only been to London once. So I sort of had a moment of, like, we have to go to London because nobody's ever been to London. But it wasn't like our. I mean, we did a lot of, like, activities on that. And we did, like, Sherlock Holmes house and, like, some cool, you know, a lot of Harry Potter and stuff like that. But I bet my kids really loved that trip the most. I don't know. My son is, like, super happy. Just, like, some years, you know, just renting, like, a big, dumb suburban house. Like, sometimes we've done that because my family's spread out. And I'll be like, we're all going to Phoenix. We're going to Phoenix. And I got, you know, I got a pool and a basketball. You know, and sometimes those trips are, like, more successful because people are not in their own space. And so nobody's, like, feeling responsible or, like, they have to fix things or plan things or, you know. Some of those trips are, weirdly, the most relaxing. It is true. Like, I think sometimes when you take your kids on a vacation to someplace that everybody is going on vacation. Like, that's when you're in a tiny hotel room and the vibe is like, all right, guys, let's, we got to get out. It's the day has begun. Like, get the most bang for our buck. Yeah. Whereas, like, if you go to a bigger house where there's. A foosball table. You know. Heaven. And they're just like, yeah. And they don't want to leave. In fact, that was a Christmas. And I, like, fully, I just, I just, basically everything we ate was from Costco. I was like, we're getting everything in the first Costco run. And we're all going to enjoy it. Yeah. And then we did a lot of puzzles and movies. It was great. It sounds really good. Do you guys play games? Or are you more puzzle? Okay. What are your games? I'm like an old sort of alcoholic who enjoys a late night puzzle. Mm-hmm. Like, you know, just like, I'm going to stay up and shine it together as a corner. Do you have a big, do you have a big spatula? No. What do I need the spatula for? I heard of this group of puzzlers that I think Kevin Nealon's actually part of and Jack McBrayer. And they have, like, a huge spatula, like an oversized spatula to, like, move a section of the puzzle that is ready. And you can move it over in front of yourself and be like, I'm going to work on this section now. That's cool. But it's like. It's brilliant. Yeah. I've, I've been, I've spent a lot of years, and unsuccessfully so, trying to figure out, like, the perfect puzzle table vibe. Mm. You know, what can move with you sections. That's, that's great. I love, I can go into a really happy place. I dream one day of having, like, a, just a, like, being that kind of person who has just, like, the puzzle area of my home. So I puzzle. Everybody says they're interested. They do two pieces. Takes, they usually take credit at the end. You know, that's the other thing. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Like, hey, I finished. I finished it. Nothing more enraging to somebody who's been working on it for four days. But we do play a ton of games. Yeah. We, I love games. Yeah. In the summer, especially. What's your go-to? I like all word, okay, so I like all word-related games. I love, like, Scattergories and, like, Listicle and. Balderdash. Are you a Balderdash fan? Love Balderdash. Yeah. And actually, one of the reasons I love Balderdash is it's, because of the way that, that, it's a very well-designed game for multiple ages. Yeah. So that you can, you can deliberately pick the definition that the nine-year-old will get, you know what I mean? Yeah. Or won't get or whatever. It's nice, so you can, like, play with lots of different people. I've had lots of fun. I don't like games that are, I don't like Mafia or, like, Traitors. I don't like things where I have to, like, lie to people. I hate it. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. I've always hated it. Me too. I feel so validated right now. I hate the way, I remember, I think I maybe just played once in my life and just. Everybody, the way people are like, look at me i'm your friend would i lie to you i'm like of course you would yeah it's the game like what are we doing here and i hate when i am the traitor like and it's it's upsetting because it's so in now like not like i'm sure people say to you like you should go on traitors i'm like absolutely never and i know whole friend groups i mean you probably know them josh like my my friend tony the one who loves hutter mystery balloon theater like that that like his entire friend group is organized around mafia but i was and every time i go to la and i stay with him i have to like participate in and i like also i don't like playing games where you can't chat a little bit i like the social aspect so i don't like it when people are like shut up like that's not a lot of yeah because people get like people playing bridge and stuff they get really serious like you can't yeah just there's no chit chat i like to i love jenga for that reason jenga is great because you're just sort of you have this thing in front of you but there's no conversation has to stop it just it keeps moving but i like hearts in that you play a round of hearts and then you you talk during um that's true the show like i i'm fine with that but you know and hearts can go on for hours which i like about it yes like if you wanted to play hearts if it was raining at like a beach day you could totally play hearts all day and be fine it's a rainy beach day where i am and my parents are visiting and we've already played hearts i love it yeah um swinging back to your uh the national park trip with your family do you were your parents like let's get into it or were you like let's get into it or were you like let's get into the grand teton so let's really like hike in here are you guys sort of going to parking lots vistas vista points near the big yeah near the big stuff and like are you a hiking family or a vista point family yeah that's what we were a vista point family and i still am a histopoint vista point family which is weird because like our best family friends who we travel with we made we ski with them and i love it the early on they're like really avid skiers and i hadn't skied sorry i'm going a few miles away and i'm like oh my god i'm going to the field may i go field permission to go a field permission granted so i feel like you'll enjoy this so we skied on and off growing up east coast skiing as you know is it's kind of a shit show it's really icy like there'd be like school trips and stuff and anyway i wasn't like an accomplished skier but i enjoyed it and then my at northwestern where we all went to college um my ra had grown up in utah and so my my sophomore year he was like hey come come to utah and we'll all ski for spring break we did we like went and lived in his his basement and skied super cheap anyway then i met my husband who has incredibly strongly held opinions like he doesn't have a lot of them but they are passionate and deeply um meaningful to him so he denounced skiing early on like i met him when i was 23 so he's like i hate skiing we will never ski i hate the mountains i hate alpine architecture i hate i hate anything that has to do i was like great got it obviously not going to push this who cares and then 30 years later i was 49 my best friend was like hey we have a ski house and our boys were best friends and they were the same age and you know like boys you're like what are you going to do for it was like a vacation coming up and she was like come stay with us it's super fun it's in montana it's so beautiful the boys aren't ski all day they'll have the greatest time and i was like okay but my husband really hates it and then the dad was like i hate skiing too i just ski in the morning and then i like cook and make beer and drink beer in the afternoon charlotte's like great i'll do the beer and like cooking part anyway by the way we get there 30 years laps between the two times and skiing is like a bicycle if you've done it you get up pretty quickly again and you're like oh wait i kind of remember how to do this and my fucking husband we're on we got like a teacher the first day just to like get our and the teacher's like so we really want to make sure that our weight is downhill you know whatever and he's like for example look at charlie and here comes suzy fucking chapstick he was like a european austrian like like heading to i was like what you hate it and you're amazing at it like it's so not fair anyway but the same the same family loves travel and they're really like good at it and you know you're like the organized friend who's like great at planning the trips and everything and so she quickly and it was terrible because it was like the wrong brand like they just assumed because we did the skiing part that we would want to do the like galapagos and like you know inner basin of the chiton trip which we just really are not so i've just done nothing but disappoint that friend pretty much ever since i will say that's such an interesting to say because i don't like skiing but i do like alpine architecture i think that's the burn on me there you go that's the burn i'd love to live in it i want to live at a sea level ski house oh well that's like just an a-frame yeah but like i really want to make all my like beach neighbors mad at me like i want to have like a beautiful chalet on fire island a chalet like a coastal chalet that just like is like is a real eyesore and i just want to be i want to always be on my front porch drinking uh cocoa and uh mulled wine but you want it cold at the beach i don't understand is it a seaside i don't want it cold i just want it to be i just want it to be unnerving for people who like the beach i just want to make their day a little bit i want them to be as confused as you are now all the time okay got it and will you be wearing like a tight nordic sweater i don't think so it's a great question i don't think so i know because i don't want to be uncomfortable so i think i'm just in maybe it's like yeah i'm in a swim swim trunks drinking uh but like iced mulled wine and uh and and and steaming steaming hot cocoa but it maybe is just a prop it might just be a regular mug that just i've i've rigged to have steam come out of it so that people are just oh that's perfect you get a little dry ice yeah a little dry ice and it's just that's a good call just to piss people when they walk by with their surfboards just go how the slopes today i definitely am not gonna have skis up i definitely yeah yeah may i ask were you in uh whitefish mountain or big sky in montana big sky which i love yeah i've not i've not been but i hear it's just very shishi but it wasn't even when we went 10 years ago um yeah whitefish whitefish is a little town i've been to uh sort of right near glacier national park but i've not been there in the winter but it i feel like it's sort of as a little hit more hidden gem than big sky but that's what they say yeah yeah yeah it's beautiful yeah like really beautiful and mountain true mountains yeah montana's montana is great nuts yeah anna it is uh thank you so much for joining us it is always lovely to see you but uh you're not off the hook yet great because josh is gonna hit you with our round of uh speed round lightning round um okay here we go you can only pick one of these is your ideal vacation relaxing adventurous or educational educational what is your favorite means of transportation like to a trip sorry i know it's a speed round just uh how your favorite way to get around it could be from point a to point b could be an airplane yeah walking car or bicycle um if you could take a vacation with any family alive or dead real or fictional other than your own family what family would you like to take a vacation with oh my god i'm terrible at this uh it's a hard one well because the only family i can think of right now is the kennedys but i don't want to go on vacation with them yeah bad stuff happens yeah i feel like it's just a bad scene right yeah maybe um family that old uh that that uh mtv vj kennedy maybe go with her george kennedy the actor no no and i gotta think of a different family okay um charlie and the chocolate factory's family yep great the um charlie bucket the buckets great yeah um if you had to be stranded on a desert island because you know you know and by the way before he won before he won the golden ticket you want to go with the buckets pre like you want to go with the real the the poor buckets you want to travel with them like four grandparents one bed that's your bucket vacation i just think grandpa joe was game he was game yeah right and he was always down for the adventure yeah and charlie was a very compliant child grandpa joe if he had been at that um uh new mexico retirement home would go running with ulysses i think 100 he would have been in the balloon he would be yeah exactly following he would be in the following um if you had to be stranded on a desert island with one member of your family who would it be one member yeah that's really hard because this is like sophie's choice now oh so it's definitely not charlie well sophie's choice famously being a choice between two children that's true i mean i guess it would be my husband because he's very resourceful but i have to say as a foursome we are very compatible i feel very lucky that way like it's a pretty agreeable bunch that's good yeah i mean they're old my kids are old what is and that's why you get along you didn't get along when they were little meaning we're sort of we've we've we've been through a lot of briar patches like we're on the fun side we're like at the most awesome side of teenagerness which is where they're pretty self-aware and they know themselves and they're super independent so yeah great the only sad thing is they move out once they're really easy to be around yeah of course yeah it's really sad uh but then it'll be that much more special when you go on vacations with them in the future i want to go on vacation and and i also just literally want to buy like a duplex and have everybody live in it together like it's great Truly. I don't. I'm not going to be able to pull it off, but I'm going to try. What is your dream destination for a family vacation? I really would like to do. This isn't the question you're asking. I'm a terrible guest. I apologize. I would like next to do one of those like biking through Norway or like, you know, I'd like to sort of do Ireland. But I like to have like a bike, a little activity with some history and a shitload of good food. Yeah, that's a that's an excellent answer. I want to do that. A bike through Norway sounds. I don't know of Norway. Like I'm just like like a cute bucolic area. Slovenia. I don't care. Just like little little castles and inns, food, cheese, wine and a small amount of physical activity. So you feel, you know, like you're taking the taking. Yeah. And you are from Washington, D.C., your hometown. It is. If you had to get more families to come visit Washington, D.C., how would you sell that town? Boy, this is well, the biggest thing is this recent events notwithstanding, the Smithsonian is free. Yeah, it's good. The Smithsonian is free. I mean, it is a for years. I mean, depending on what's going on in Washington, it is those museums are incredible. And I grew up going to them on with amazing regularity because I grew up right around them. And they were like what you would do on a Saturday because they are free. So anybody that number of birthday parties that you would have at like the Air and Space Museum or the Natural History Museum. It's they're incredible. The art museums, all of them have lunch, you know, whatever. So it's a good reason to go somewhere. Even the zoo is free there. Great. Perfect. And then Seth has much. I feel I know I know that the question was, have you been to the Grand Canyon? I know the answer is yes, but there is a follow up in the follow up is was it worth it? Yeah, it's absolutely worth it. OK, great. I actually think I'm going to go further than that, which is to say, have you done Chaco Canyon or have you done I think it's called Chaco Canyon. There's Canyon Deshaies is like one of the two big. I know Canyon Deshaies. That's what he was called in high school. Now he's Chaco Canyon. That was his second album. When he got to college, he's like, call me Chaco Canyon. All right. Just wanted to reinvent himself. Wait, somebody look it up. Mr. Looking up. Mr. Look up. Look up the two. Look at. Look, it's the there are two ancient sites in New Mexico. One is Chaco Canyon and the other one is Chaco Pueblo Benito Casa Rinconada. Nope. OK, you can edit this. No, this is good. I just want people to know how good I am at Googling. And just can make more of a clicking sound, please, with your fingers. Mesa Verde. Yeah, Mesa Verde. And what does it say about Mesa Verde? Often the one of the two that is forgotten compared to Chaco Canyon. Mesa Verde has to be Googled. Mesa Verde is in southwest Colorado. It's known for its well-preserved ancestral Puebloan cliff dwellings, notably the huge cliff palace. The Chapin Mesa Archaeological Museum has exhibits on the ancient. Native American culture, Mesa Top Loop Road, wines past good now you're done. But super interesting. And also Chaco is interesting. What does it say about Chaco? Oh, you're going to make him read again? Yeah. Oh, went so poorly last time. No, this is Chaco Canyon born Canyon de Cheyenne is is is great. All it says is it's great. Really? Usually there's more. Usually there's more information. It doesn't say like a lot of fun. It says it's great. It says it doesn't pay for deep Google. I'm just going to read what it says. And you guys can judge me like not worth Googling. You have to see it to believe it. Three stars. Three. Three out of five. One of the best bits in the world. Love you, Anna. Love you. Congrats on on Schmigadoon. And I'll see you this Christmas. Can't wait. 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