“An Alien Gave Me The True Purpose of the Pyramids!” -Geoffrey Drumm

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Like lightning strikes. The most powerful atmospheric event that a neolithic person could possibly witness. So lightning guided the way for ancient civilizations to build these things. These positive charges are going to start to accumulate. All of a sudden you get that lightning discharge, the rain, the atmospheric nitrate fertilizers, and voila. We now have the birth of stone circle obelisk standing stones. Atmospheric nitrate fertilizer technology. And it's being built all over the planet. You even make the connection as to why UFOs show up around some of these sites. In fact, there's a specific case in Japan. So that's a site called Pyramid Kuramanta. And people report UFO sightings, mainly these glowing orbs. Directly connected to Pyramid Kuramanta. It's one of the most mysterious sites in northern Japan. It's a shape-shifting plasma phenomenon that can change into these different formations. There's an interesting connection between the smell of sulfur and ammonia directly related to UFO phenomenon and ball lightning phenomenon. Well, that's extremely common. It's this case in Brazil. There is a statue commemorating this UFO encounter. Because everyone in this city, all of them, say that the beings smelled like this. Like sulfur and ammonia. That is just the tip of the iceberg of substantiating evidence that I've discovered over the past nine years. Very strange experience during my first trip to Egypt. So my friend and I go to sit to dinner. And I'm looking at him in the eyes. And he has these big bulbous eyes. They're like chameleon. Kind of like they operated independently where one was kind of looking over. It was like really, really weird. What? And he had googly eyes. Googly eyes. And I remember him. He already knew where my mind was going in advance of the conversation. And then he starts probing. Asking these really methodical questions regarding this theory that I had just generated that day. Tell me what you know. Ignition sequence five. How is this possible? Nothing too unusual about that. Their existence cannot longer be denied. The world is a place of the unknown. conference and after doing some digging and more videos on their second regarding the kafra pyramid i was about 70 30 70 i don't believe it 30 thinking that there is some limited potential for the scanning technology to detect structures within the pyramids 70 being it cannot permeate deep underground at all and that the so-called pillar structures are really just figments of the scanning process, like echoes or long exposure, um, figments of the scanning process. After yesterday's conversation, I'm more like 80, 20. Really? So I've, so I've lost about 10% in my belief in the, there's definitely something potentially to it. I really like Filippo and he is an expert in radar technology. He's a radar engineer. He's a software developer. So he should know what he's doing. Um, however, in the context of the conversation yesterday, there were several things, and this was the first time I've had a chance to sit down with Filippo face to face and ask him some really poignant questions that have really been bugging me. And these are the same questions that everybody in the industry has been having, especially the people that have immediately debunked the research, which was, there was a whole community of people that either shut it down completely, rejected it immediately without really asking any probing questions. Or like we said yesterday, there's the other hand where they just accept it unquestioningly. We're 100% on board. They found a huge city in these alien mega structures underneath the pyramids. So I'm not trying to debunk Filippo. I really like it. I'm super interested. Keep coming to the table with more, right? And that can be, you're asking the right questions and you're, you're, you're pinpointing real issues. And so I'm, I'm just excited to see how it gets the balls in his court. He's got to follow up and he needs to, uh, whatever is quote unquote proprietary in his head needs to be like replicated, scaled to the rest of the scientific community made accessible because there's so many things we're taking at face value, uh, that I think need to need to really be, you know, uh, understood and scrutinized kind of publicly, but okay, let's transition because, uh, and that's a good preface too. I think you're one of two people that are going to you and Christopher Dunn who actually have a theory as to what the pyramids function actually was where the supposed King's chamber is, where those passages go through into it. What do you think that thing was? The power plant book is entitled the Giza power plant. And I describe it as a, an electron harvester. You could describe it as both. I do think the consensus is shifting away from these being originally conceived as tombs. Sure. And, and Graham Hancock and Robert shock. And those guys are really kind of at the forefront of that, but academia feels like it's catching up on that. And now the question is what the hell are they and what were they for? And I think, whereas Christopher Dunn, who's done a great show on Joe Rogan and some other podcasts, uh, would say is it's like a, you know, hydrogen power plant, like an energy plant or something basically. And, and, and, and you say that it's this chemical manufacturing facility and it deals with Kardashev scales and the ability to do metallurgy mining and, and basic agriculture. Correct. So it's so incredible. And so now we're getting back to the origin story. So go for it. So to clarify the main difference between Christopher Dunn's work and my work, he focuses exclusively on the great pyramid and he's termed himself as a great pyramid exclusionist. His work does not address any other pyramids. And he's admitted this as a deficiency of his work because the mechanisms that apply to the great pyramid don't apply to any of the other structures. My work starts with the function of stone circles and obelisk structures, passage chamber reactors like Newgrange and other passage chamber systems that are located all around the world. Then moving into the function of the Egyptian pyramids, talking about the step pyramid, the red pyramid, the bent pyramid, the great pyramid, and the central pyramid as a comprehensive system for the production of various chemicals on an industrial scale. Methane being extracted and produced by the Egyptian pyramids. So it's a comprehensive system for the production of various chemicals on an industrial scale. Methane being extracted and produced within the step pyramid. That methane being converted into ammonia within the red pyramid. That ammonia being transformed into either ammonium bicarbonate or urea. Similar chemical composition. End product depends on the total temperature and pressure of the reaction. I lean more towards urea now, which is just a solid compound ammonia based fertilizer. And the pyramids on the Giza Plateau producing sulfuric acid and hydrochloric acid within the great pyramid and central pyramids. respectively. So it's a comprehensive theory that the Egyptian pyramids are industrial scale chemical manufacturing plants. Christopher Dunn's theory uses chemicals as the input and power as the output. My theory is the exact opposite, where the input is nature's electricity, and the output itself are industrial chemical commodities. You are kind of as deep as corroborate in corroborating this theory as anybody in the world like you have so much data that you put against it. You it's like painstaking. Yeah. And so what I appreciate the acknowledgement of that. Oh, yeah, of course. No, no, no. And that means a lot coming from you, somebody that's very intentional in scrutinizing the existing evidence for any particular same thing like we're doing with beyondy, right? Yeah, we want to see the full, the full gamut of all the information. No, and you showed it in that conversation. And also when you've done other podcasts, like my buddy, Danny Jones. Yeah, shout out, Danny. Shout out, Danny. It's like he was like, that was the most detailed like, it was like a seven hour thing that, you know, and he was like, exhausted by the end of it. So we both were that was a I did. So when I went to Florida, I did a nine hour presentation on limitless. Yeah, and then did seven hours on Danny show. And that even just doing that, yeah, is just the tip of the iceberg of the substantiating evidence that I've discovered over the past. So 2017 to 2026. We're talking about nine years of working on this project. Yeah, I published my book in 2020. And my YouTube channel went public in 2020. Also. So in the six years since I went public on YouTube, I have more than 400 research based episodes presenting meticulous explanation of all the mechanisms of operation that go into the function of all these different structures. And that's been like you said, kind of one of the biggest objections in the barrier to entry in people getting interested in my work, because they don't know where to start. One interesting point that I've heard you make on Danny Jones's podcast is with respect to ammonia and fertilizer. So first off, I think in some ways, your theory is actually the most reasonable, because it's not this fantastical, oh, we're producing nuclear fusion over unity, free energy for the earth and Atlantis existed. And like it was like this infinite abundance sort of, you know, utopia. In your case, you're just saying, what what is needed for, you know, a Kardashev scale one, you know, civilization, which is a framework that is very popular around the ability to basically harness the earth's energy. Yeah. And so, you know, that is, in this case, especially locally in the Giza Plateau, it would be fertilizer mining and metallurgy would be just essential to like, you know, civilization there. Yeah. And so one interesting connection that I remember hearing you make on Danny Jones is that Fritz Haber, who is responsible for modern fertilization techniques, which is remarkable, because he I mean, he was this Nazi and also responsible for the deaths of I believe he was responsible for like mustard gas and or Zyklon B or something. That was the reason he committed suicide. There you go. Because his original invention of the industrial scale ammonia synthesis process was later adapted to chemical warfare. Right. So something that he created to make fertilizer for food was eventually taken to the dark side and used to kill you know, vast amounts of people, which is one of the reasons he committed suicide. Right. It wouldn't have been because mustard gas was World War One. Was it Zyklon B or something of the it was making ammonium nitrate explosives. Okay. And other you can certainly make toxic compounds from that. I don't I don't know exactly what the the weaponized version. I think it was ammonium nitrate. So a classic case of somebody who is kind of similar to Alfred Nobel, who, you know, created the Nobel Prize, where it was, you know, I think it was like dynamite was what he invented. You know, often inventions are liberating, freeing and create abundance. And simultaneously, it's always dual use and often, you know, weaponizable. So so he was inspired by the Red Pyramid. Is that right? So Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch. Carl Bosch is known as the father of electrochemistry. And they were both creating these revolutionary industrial scale chemical synthesis projects in the early 1900s. Both of them traveled extensively in Egypt. It's wild. Yeah. And my hypothesis is that old Fritz Haber, in the same process that I did in investigating the Red Pyramid, reverse engineered the same mechanisms of operation that drive the system. And instead of, you know, publishing in a book or unveiling it, he, you know, kept the secret and converted it into the industrial process that we now have known as the Haber process to make ammonia. The original apparatus that he created is three chambers. And for some reason, he put the third chamber above, when he set this thing up, it's two chambers. at ground level and one chamber that's raised above it's the exact same configuration as the chambers of the red pyramid there's no technical reason to put that third chamber on a stand but for some reason he did it and i think it's an homage if you look at the side-by-side comparison i have a slide in here somewhere um you look at the side-by-side comparison it's it's an exact replica of the chambers of the red pyramid and it operates by the same principles of increasing temperature and pressure within the system to facilitate chemical reactions yeah i'm sure you saw that we made a 1 to 40 scale model of the red pyramid and it completely exploded due to the pressure on the inside of this thing and that was one of the do we have any historical evidence we just we know he was in egypt right do we know that he visited the pyramids per se or no not specifically there's no documentation there's there's a book that mentions that his original ammonia synthesis project was financed by an egyptian banker which i found that was very interesting interesting they have postcards that were sent from fritz haber being dated in egypt he had documented traveling to egypt um but there's no mention specifically of the pyramids that's just kind of my you know i don't want to call it a conspiracy theory but there's there's something very unusual because the chamber the chambers match one to one in certain ways not even in a functionally adaptive way you have the chambers matching uh unnecessarily almost as if he was copying the pyramid yeah again when you look at the original apparatus yeah the third chamber is on a stand yeah yeah there's no reason for that from a functional perspective and making that work yeah he just set it on a stand because it's elevated above the ground which is exactly the configuration of the red pyramid so i want to ask you like a super high level question before diving into all the evidence that uh the pyramids are chemical manufacturing power plants which is who do you think built the pyramids and when were they built because that's the hotly contested thing and i think that's important before getting into their possible functionality and why they were built yeah fan duel is now available everywhere in the u.s so you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places make this your most rewarding season ever with fan duel age and location tricks and supply product availability varies by market see fanduel.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER so i see a direct evolution in ancient stone technology tracing back to the end of the last ice age starting with stone circles and passage chamber reactors like new grange which are proto pyramids and basic systems that encapsulate reaction chambers using simple mechanisms of operation like circulating moist airflow within these reaction chambers to produce chemical reactions so passage chamber reactors like new grange are the first implementation of earth natural resource utilization technology on the planet built by human beings at the end of the last ice age in an attempt to rebuild civilization and ensure the proliferation of the human species for generations to come they were industrial infrastructure projects that brought things like atmospheric nitrate fertilizers and rain to certain areas to promote agriculture they were manufacturing things like ferrous sulfate which is kind of a ubiquitous chemical for soil conditioning you can use it to produce sulfuric acid you can use it to render metallic iron there's a variety of applications both agricultural and construction material related for ferrous sulfate and then eventually the egyptian pyramids were designed starting with the steppe pyramid that was used for the extraction of bedrock deposits of methane that methane so there's a direct connection between subterranean natural resources telluric currents and lightning strikes and often bedrock methane seeps are ignited by lightning which create these perpetually burning sacred flames the sacred flame was revered in ancient middle eastern religions like the zoroastrianisms the oracle at delphi was a methane seep a burning methane seep a lot of which were ignited by lightning so lightning guided the way for ancient civilizations to find subterranean natural resources like oil and gas and also subterranean deposits of metal or minerals so the steppe pyramid was implemented for the extraction of bedrock methane and i believe that they were operational between the time period from 8500 bc to around 5300 bc in a period known as the saharan humid period so the development of this technology starts around 10 000 bc we have stone circles passage chamber reactors that gradually evolved into the apex execution of the technology in the egyptian pyramids circa 8500 bc the construction would have began and they were in operation for about 3 000 years wow interesting but this also connects to the japanese joman civilization so the joman in japan were also building stone circles passage chamber reactors and pyramids in japan you saw the episode on the koromanta pyramid i did which is um it is a legitimate archaeologically documented man-made pyramid that has internal red granite reaction chambers they gpr scanned it they did some excavations at the site 100 documented it is a legitimate pyramid pyramid and the japanese joman traced back to around 30 000 bce so they lived during the ice age survived the ice age and then around 10 000 bce they started building stone circles and similar structures to what we see all over england all over japan implementing the same technology stone circles passage chamber reactors and lightning powered lightning and telluric current powered chemical reactor pyramids so you almost believe that you have like a almost a global pattern of these ancient megaliths sites correct and a lot of them are not only functional but you can see the development from stone circles for example to pyramids yes as far as their ability to kind of harness the earth's resources correct so the the same power source for example for telluric uh for stone circles starts with telluric currents to develop positive charges on the surface of the earth what is a just uh if you break down as many of these things as possible yeah just electrical currents that move through the the crust of the earth okay yeah and so a stone what does a stone circle do with the telluric current right so this also connects to subterranean natural resources like underground springs and these metal or mineral deposits so stone circles all over the planet are built on top of underground springs same thing is true of the pyramids on the giza plateau and all the structures in egypt are built on top of subterranean water deposits this is not pure water this is mineral rich spring water which is very electrically conductive so these telluric currents in the crust of the earth flow and accumulate more prolifically in areas where this the subterranean mineral water these stone circles are built right on top of these subterranean mineral rich spring water sources which facilitate the accumulation and flow of telluric currents into the site okay so we're talking about the subterranean mineral water sources but we're talking about the subterranean mineral water sources which facilitate the accumulation and flow of telluric currents within the stone circle system itself this process develops a positive electrical charge on the surface of the earth this was documented using electrostatic volt meters by guys like john burke in his book seed of knowledge stone of plenty where he came to the same conclusion about this positive charge on the surface of the earth within stone circles his proposal is that it was for seed electric field and magnetic forces within these systems were used to manipulate uh seed dna and that lightning was an unintended consequence of this positive field buildup my hypothesis is the exact opposite where the positive charge accumulation on the surface of the earth due to a phenomenon known as dielectric polarization right so stones are not electrically conductive they're dielectric materials with the capacity for storing an electric field and dielectric polarization happens in the direction of the current flow so if the current is flowing up through these subterranean springs the vector of the electric current flow is going up so dielectric polarization happens in the direction of the current flow negative at the bottom positive at the top so we're developing a positive charge on the surface of the earth again documented using electrostatic volt meters by john burke so this positive surface charge creates a have you verified that have you gone to the sites and no no i haven't we have used um we haven't brought electrostatic volt meters but we have used magnetometers pretty prolifically at these sites which is also so for example the stones on oshito ishi hill this huge hill in japan has a configuration of andesite stones at the top of this hill and these andesite stones have a profound magnetic field resonating from the stone due to the magnetite content so there is a huge amount of magnetic field resonating from the stone due to the magnetite content so there is a huge magnetic field that emanates from these stones and it's been corroborated by the and it's been corroborated by the and it's been corroborated by the researchers at kumamoto university that researchers at kumamoto university that researchers at kumamoto university that have investigated the stones of oshito have investigated the stones of oshito have investigated the stones of oshito ishi hill who actually witnessed these these things being struck by lightning on multiple occasions and have a picture of this thing if you want to see it in just a second and would would like just for the audience's kind of you know basic understanding of this you mentioned that you got married at stonehenge would that be engaged yeah engaged sorry at stonehenge would that be an example of this yes correct it would it also goes into the composition of the altar stone of stonehenge using mica okay right so the sarsen stones are high silica content sandstone then you have blue stones which come from wales and then you have the altar stone of stonehenge which was the lightning rod the obelisk the standing stone and men here all over the planet operate as lightning rods okay whoa the earliest the earliest implementation of obelisk technology yeah so everything in egypt is essentially the apex pinnacle execution of ancient stone technology so cool okay so let me just repeat this back to you so i make sure that you get it that i that i understand this yeah you have these sort of proto megalithic structures pre-pyramids that are things like stone circles for example yep and they seem to be mineral rich and often that is concurrent with uh mineral rich water spring water below the site below the site and then you have you know rocks that are often mineral rich as well and you can use electrostatic volt meters to pick up high electric currents you can also use magnetometers to pick up high you know magnetic activity at these sites yeah and so they serve as sort of lightning rods occasionally because of this yeah the obelisk so a lot of the because the accumulation of positive charges yeah even at the top of a obelisk yeah a standing stone or men here yeah and the egyptian obelisk being the apex execution of the same technology you're going to get a positive charge accumulation at the top of that stone it's just a target so what is that so for negatively charged cloud to ground lightning so i'm an ancient human what does that get me what why why would i so let me shout out to hugh newman because i wasn't familiar with the work of john burke until i met with hugh newman it was like two years ago that i did the interview with you and he recommended this book and i read it on one of our trips to japan and i'm looking through it i was like holy shit he's talking about all the same things that i documented he's talking about lightning although it was an unintended consequence and it was just kind of validation of the the original concept that i had produced regarding this so why did they want lightning to strike in certain areas atmospheric nitrate fertilizers so when lightning strikes it creates a chemical reaction in the atmosphere that generates atmospheric nitrates it breaks down the nitrogen molecules allowing it to more readily react with oxygen and those water soluble atmospheric nitrates are brought down in the rain for fertilization it allowed them to re-establish agricultural areas all over europe all over japan by using these stone circles that basically cover the entire area they built them everywhere stone circles are all over europe this is their ubiquitous feature it's remarkable it's like literally using the earth and its own natural power to terraforming for terraforming that's incredible why does uh you know accumulation of positive charges at the earth's surface attract lightning yeah so night lightning cloud to ground lightning is negatively charged okay so that's what happens during a thunderstorm is you'll get a build-up of negative charges in the atmosphere and in the cloud you get a positive build-up of charges on the surface and lightning is going to seek the shortest path to ground given this positive charge accumulation that balances out those two opposite charges it's an electrostatic discharge lightning is a giant electrostatic phenomenon here you're making my mind go to all these crazy places there's this thing called the baltic sea anomaly yeah and you know about this yeah yeah of course so i went and visited and i was like oh my god i'm gonna go to the baltic sea anomaly and i'm gonna go to the baltic sea and it's in the middle of the baltic sea and it seems like it's like breathing like water is being sucked in and out of it there it seems like there's like a staircase at one point a lot of like right angle kind of turns on it long straight lines uh according to dennis asperg this ocean x explorer who's a buddy of mine uh it's not attached to the sea floor so it seems like this artificial structure and there's all this anomalous electromagnetic activity around it and i believe lightning even struck it or struck next to it or something right so maybe that was due to the accumulation of positive charges and maybe it was one of these ancient terraforming sites for all we know so there was actually a paper um and a research project by the university of saint andrews where they did a geophysical analysis of a stone circle called the calanish or calanace stone circle where they took out geomagnetic sensing equipment and they found the magnetic signature at the center of the stone circle and they found the magnetic signature at the center of the stone circle of lightning strikes they describe it as repeated lightning strikes over a long period of time on the center of this stone circle so there is academic substantiation in peer-reviewed research papers they don't say why all they say is hey there's this big magnetic signature at the center of the stone circle for some sort of ancient ritual whoa there is academic substantiation for this hypothesis but i've also addressed the why not just the fact that it occurred yeah i mean and then if that in turn produces atmospheric nitrates that allows for agriculture yeah that's amazing well there's a variety of other applications as well so during how would these people ancient people we think of this narrative of primitive to progress yeah and this idea that you know the enlightenment is only a last four or five hundred years sort of phenomena how would people in you what are you what are you talking about pre-10,000 bc in certain cases neolithic people neolithic neolithic hunter-gatherers right how would they know how to essentially harness great question the earth and how would they know how to essentially create ag i mean we think of them as completely primitive yeah so a civilization that is a hunter-gatherer civilization doesn't necessarily imply primitive i would say that they were actually more connected with the earth than we are today which in i would say that's a more civilized way to live i think they had a more profound understanding of the forces at work within nature and here on the planet than we do today so again kind of going to the conversation of kardashev scale and the utilization of earth's electricity and natural resources today we do not use earth's electricity we manufacture electricity hydroelectric dams we're using water to spin a you know a magnet around to create electricity nuclear power nuclear power is just a fancy way to boil water right that's all it is right so we're creating electricity we're not harnessing earth's electricity this ancient civilization i think is actually more adept at utilizing the natural electricity from the earth to create chemical commodities or other agricultural related products so how did they discover this technology so from a neolithic hunter-gatherer perspective you're watching the sky clearly they were studying the sky and atmospheric phenomenon they had a really in-depth knowledge of the solar system alignments of planets they were encoding that into structures like new grains and they were studying the sky and atmospheric phenomena they were studying the sky they were studying the solar system and they were studying the moon they were studying the sun the moon and the planet venus so advanced astrology encoded in all these monuments around the world they were watching the sky they would have paid attention to phenomenon like lightning strikes the most powerful atmospheric event that a neolithic person could possibly witness and there's a lot of mythology that connects lightning strikes to deities around the planet so susano ball is the eastern lightning and fertilizer god susano is the japanese lightning and fertilizer god there's lightning and fertilizer gods kukulkan and ketsuko waddle also connected to lightning rain and fertilizer so it's encoded in mythology all around the world that these ancient civilizations were paying attention to this phenomenon and connecting it to agriculture i love talking about japan because i have a personal affinity for some reason in connection to this joman civilization which the joman are not asiatic people the indigenous population of japan the joman the the later um lineage of the joman is a is a group known as the ainu and the ainu and the joman are not asiatic people the the asian influence in japan comes from a civilization known as the yaoi which are immigrants from china and korea that come into japan later at the end of the joman period so they're non-asiatic people that were inhabiting japan studying these phenomenon and they did this exact same thing at a site called komakino where it's a tough hillside there's a volcanic tough material all over japan and they leveled off the side of this mountain to create a flat plateau at the top of the mountain they leveled it and they created a andesite stone circle the same magnetic phenomenon that were discovered by the research team at the kalanay stone circle the same magnetic phenomenon at the oshiro isha hill is also at komakino which is indication of lightning strikes this powerful charge causes permanent magnetization of the magnetite within the andesite stones so it's remnant magnetization from lightning strikes that create these magnetic field anomalies anomalies at these stone circle sites wow so they replicate it simply by studying and learning from the forces of nature yeah trial and error trial and error let's build it over here all of a sudden the spring water below this komakino site and there's a river that runs right below the thing that's connected to subterranean springs the tough hillside is also permeated with all sorts of minerals too which is directly connected there is an inseparable connection between the location of telluric currents these subterranean natural resources, and lightning strike locations. And I'm sure you saw in many of my presentations, I presented several research papers that corroborate this statement. So anytime you build these things, these positive charges are going to start to accumulate. All of a sudden, you get that lightning discharge, the rain, the atmospheric nitrate fertilizers, and voila, we now have the birth of stone circle and obelisk standing stones, atmospheric nitrate fertilizer technology. There's stone circles all over the planet. And you even make the connection in some of your videos as to why what seemed to be UFOs show up around some of these sites. As you guys know, I'm often doing shows that run three or four, sometimes even five hours. People see the finished conversation, but the real work is what comes before it. Weeks of reading and research, and then I've got to actually sustain that level of attention. And that's what I'm doing. I'm doing it in detail in the room, live for hours. 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And there's an old painting, Japanese painting, that shows this glowing ball UFO phenomenon. And people report UFO sightings, mainly these glowing orbs, directly connected to Pyramid Kuramanta. So interesting. And so this would be ball lightning, a phenomena, essentially. Correct. Just like lightning is attracted to the positive charge buildup. So with ball lightning. Yeah. And that was my interpretation of it. As soon as I started to hear that, I'm familiar with ball lightning. It's directly connected to thunderstorms. Yeah. And there's also gas coming from below this pyramid. So there's a fantastic story in this book. So during the archaeological excavations, there's a thunderstorm rolling in, they're doing excavations on the top of the structure, and they crack into the slab at the top of the pyramid, the red granite slab at the top of the pyramid. They crack into it. They're working during a thunderstorm. It's starting to rain, pour lightning and all this stuff. So they have to call it a day. So they start walking away and come down the mountain. They look back up and all of a sudden there's flames shooting out of the top of the mountain. And he describes it as blue flame that gradually started changing color, like red, orange, yellow, green, blue flames shooting out of the top of the mountain. So this is a direct result of the subterranean geothermal sulfur deposits that are directly below that mountain. So sulfurous geothermal activity is prevalent all over Akita, Japan. They call them hot spring onsen, these hot springs, they're sulfur hot springs, and they produce sulfurous gas, which when you burn sulfur gas, it actually burns with a blue flame and can change red, green, yellow, depending on impurities and the temperature of the flame. So they cracked into the chamber that was containing this gas for who knows how many thousands of years. They released all the pressure, all this pressurized gas starts shooting out of the chamber, and they're able to burn sulfur gas. So it's a crazy story. This is one of the most fascinating books that I've ever read. And it's a legitimate archaeological project. So going back to the ball lightning phenomenon, there is a mythological character in Japanese folklore known as the Raiju, which is a thunder beast that becomes activated during thunderstorms. It's known for all this erratic behavior, smelling like sulfur. So there's this case that's like, it's been kind of slowly breaking over the last 30 years, but it's this case in Virginia in 1996 in Brazil. Yes. And it literally like you go to this town in Brazil, there is a statue commemorating this UFO encounter because everyone in this city, I think it's 136,000 population. Yeah. They all saw it. A lot of people saw it. Like James Fox, this amazing documentarian, he's made this movie called Moment of Contact. He's made a follow-up that's just got released. He himself has probably around 20, 15 to 20 witnesses on record. Yeah. And some, a lot of them have seen the beings. And if you go to the hospital, like literally, yeah, this is where we did surgery on the ETB. Like it is just like, and all of them say that the beings smelled like sulfur and ammonia outside of the neurosurgeon. And I think there's some bizarre theory as to why like the being loses the ammonia and sulfur smell or something through time. But most of the people like Carlos de Sousa is this one guy who saw this crash occur. Yeah. And he was like the ammonia sulfur smell. It was impossible to ignore. These three girls saw the being as well, crouched over and kind of injured. Yeah. Also ammonia sulfur. So strange. So there's a direct connection between hydrogen sulfide gas and subterranean sulfurous gas deposits that connect Pyramid Coromanta and this geothermal activity. The whole valley next to Pyramid Coromanta is all sulfur hot spring onsen. And even Suzuki in the book mentions that there's mineral rich spring water that pops up in the water. And it's like, oh, my God, this is at the bottom of the mountain. So we have all the factors to make this chemical reactor work. And it has an interior red granite chamber. They also detected large magnetic fields when they were doing the GPR scanning. So they think that there is this circular magnetic object of some sort embedded in the chamber. Whoa. Yeah, it's crazy. But check out on my channel episode 180. I just did a full breakdown. So nuts. FanDuel is now available everywhere in the US. So you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are, including these places. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. If you're saying ball lightning shows up when you have these positive charge buildups just like lightning shows up. Yeah, that makes total sense to me. And it kind of in some ways is a rational explanation for people seeing UFOs, which aren't UFOs, just ball lightning. Ball lightning. Yeah. But then you have these weird cases, the UFO cases where you have this sulfur and ammonia smell is there. Yeah. Do you have any theory about that or is that just like a weird aside? So again, you know, ball lightning and this sort of lightning powered chemical reactor system kind of go hand in hand. Yeah. Plasma ball lightning is a kind of a misunderstanding phenomenon. It may possibly involve gas. It may involve, you know, silica dust that's whipped up into the atmosphere during lightning strikes. They're not 100% sure what causes it, but there's definitely a connection between the smell associated of ball lightning, always smelling like sulfur. When it comes to the ammonia, again, I don't really get into this in my work because I think that these were built by humans. Sure. To create, again, chemical commodities, specifically ammonia for a variety of applications. First, agriculture. You can also use it for leach mining of things like copper. And you can use it for processing of crude oil for making things like bitumen, which was super important in the ship building industry. We know that ancient maritime technology, building ships was a huge industry. So they had to have processed bitumen that was free of acidic compounds, a great way to neutralize the acidic compounds, from bitumen and crude oil is to use ammonia. - But was this being used done you know 9 000 10 000 bc like that earlier so again there's there's not necessarily conventional timeline or archaeological framework that agrees with this yeah that's just my hypothesis based on the production of these chemicals and their applications that would be connected to an ancient civilization that inhabited the planet during that time frame so i guess uh one question i'd have for you is like you have randall carlson graham hancock guys like that thinking that if there was some ancient cataclysm a la the younger dryas impact yeah and you have meltwater pulse 1b so you have like basically uh in their opinion uh comet from a torrid meteor stream you know uh an airburst uh basically causing the ice age and getting us out of the ice age yes and flooding on either side and um they in their mind you know any sort of anti-diluvian civilization pre-ice age would basically be entirely wiped out and it could have been way more advanced than we realize are you in that camp or are you not i think the survivors of said cataclysm are the people that implemented these structures okay yeah so you think there was preferably preferable noah's ark right the survivors of the great flood they had to get away from point a to point b in ships that would have been the only way to escape this cataclysm and i think the survivors are the ones that took the knowledge from the pre-existing civilization and began to implement that technology in stone circles passage chamber reactors and again it gradually evolved into the egyptian pyramids in an attempt to rebuild civilization after that cataclysm this is fascinating so let me go back to the ammonia real quick yeah please yeah yeah please but ammonia ammonia is also a rocket fuel like the x-15 ammonia rocket that we have today is a rocket-powered plane we're just now starting to use it and we're going to use it in the next couple of years we're starting to use ammonia and all of these um alternative fuel sources as uh rocket fuels so a lot of people have been like oh it's not agriculture dude it's a it's aliens and they're making rocket fuel from the ammonia from the red pyramid that's funny so there's there's kind of um my work is certainly ufo topic adjacent sure sure sure specifically when it comes to like the story of the anunnaki that we're coming here to mine gold and precious metals all of the chemicals and specifically the acidic compounds that were being manufactured on the geysers are being manufactured on the geyser Plateau are directly applicable to mining applications specifically gold and so for example you can't process gold unless you have either liquid Mercury is one way to do it which has been found under the Temple of the feathered serpent at the teotihuacan complex and my hypothesis for the function of teotihuacan is that it is a gold and silver ore processing plant whoa utilizing liquid Mercury whoa yeah and they were converting the cinnabar or into liquid Mercury using the heat from lightning strikes which goes back to Micah Micah is an electrical and thermal insulator and there's layers of Micah found inside these pyramid structures so they're insulating both the electric fields and the heat from the lightning strikes and encapsulating it in the tunnels below the structure that were loaded with mercury cinnabar or to extract liquid Mercury same thing with Micah being implemented in the altar stone of Stonehenge so my work also addresses construction material materials yeah right and all of these construction materials have very specific applications and if you learn to look at the properties of the construction materials it will reveal inevitably the function of that particular component so for example white limestone going back to the black white and red limestone is a dielectric with the capacity for storing electric fields the specific geometry of said limestone structure being directly related to shifting the geometry of that electric field red granite has quartz and a big difference between my work and the conventional hypothesis on the Great Pyramid they talk about piezoelectric effect for generating electricity I'm the exact opposite where the input is electricity and the output is the inverse piezoelectric effect and ultrasound I think one question burning question everyone has is like how did we have electricity back then we think of electricity is associated with Tesla and Edison and maybe Benjamin Franklin with a kite or something much much later so that's why I disagree with the output being electricity but you're saying the input was electric input but it comes from nature so you're oh I see what you're saying so you're saying it's a natural input of electricity so you're creating this natural kind of thunderstorm generator you know lightning rod going back to the thunderstorm generators yeah I also have a hypothesis for landscape features known as white horse Hills and these are found all over Wilshire England these clearly terraformed Hills that are inscribed with a white horse the basis of these white horses is called the Uffington white horse Hill and it's from the Neolithic period this inscription of a horse-like feature on the side of Uffington and there's a mound right next to the Uffington white horse known as Saint George and the Dragon's Mound which is the spot where Saint George slayed the dragon right the dragon being an esoteric symbol of lightning and they say that when the dragon fell from the sky and touched the ground the plants don't grow there anymore and the dragon's blood stained the ground and that's why there's no growth on top of this little mound but the dragon is a mythological symbol connected to the lightning so there's secrets in plain sight encoded in these structures in terms of the esoteric symbols and these white horse Hills are cumulonimbus thunderstorm generators they also have these so I did some measurements in the distance between the white horse Hills and the Aveberry Stone Circle serpent Temple complex it's called a serpent Temple again the serpent being connected to the symbol for telluric currents and lightning the druids referred to telluric currents and Earth's energetic pathways as dragon lines so again there's a there's an inseparable connection between telluric currents and lightning they're they're two sides of the same coin so the distance between the white horse Hills of Wilshire and there's several of them in the vicinity of the Aveberry Stone Circle complex is 5300 meters which is exactly 3.3 miles interesting number so at Teotihuacan there's another one of these white horse Hills 5300 meters away from the temple of Quetzalcoatl at pyramid Coromanta there's another one of these white horse Hills exactly 5300 meters away from the pyramid itself 2 300 meters for this step down so my work covers a lot of different topics and I was about to go on a huge tangent about the step down voltage transformers which are other components of these systems that are used to reduce the voltage from the primary lightning to reduce the voltage of electric current being allocated into other areas of the components so for example Luxor and Karnak Temple across the river from the Karnak Temple is a site known as the Hatshepsut Mortuary Temple the hillside surrounding the Hatshepsut Mortuary is another one of these white horse Hills exactly 5300 meters away from the obelisks within the Karnak Temple and there's a distance of 2 300 meters of this Sphinx step down voltage transformer Avenue which is a component that you that's used to reduce the voltage being allocated into the Luxor Temple 2 300 meters from the center Aveberry into a structure known as the sanctuary so there's another application in an interesting phenomenon that happened during lightning strikes you have Schumann resonance so these are magnetic waves that are basically trapped between the surface of the Earth and the bottom of the ionosphere and this is because these lower frequency magnetic waves bounce off the bottom of the ionosphere and if they do they're they're what are called Schumann residences which is the same frequency as human brain waves you have ozone and negative ions and these other Temple structures for example the sanctuary head end and Aveberry and the Oyu stone circle complex that was also connected by a stone Avenue into Pyramid Coromanta these smaller stone circles at the head end of these avenues are designed to accumulate Ozone negative ions and are also intended for human interaction with the Schumann resonance that occurs during the lightning strikes fascinating okay so yeah so Stefan Burns was just on Danny Jones yeah and he was talking about again um he's a geophysicist yes that was talking about the connection between Schumann resonance and lightning strikes and telluric currents at these ancient sites basically corroborating many of the things that I laid out during my presentation on Danny's show these resident energy fields that exist on Earth that are generated through lightning strikes primarily there's like 50 every second or so around the world um and they produce energy across the entire light spectrum sometimes even gamma rays so like a superbolt it'll be so strong you can boost gamma radiation and he was saying that perhaps Schumann resonance and the generation of these um same type of brain frequency brain waves perhaps is um you know the story of like you teach one monkey something and then all of a sudden all the other monkeys sure learn the same thing perhaps Schumann resonance is what connected all of these civilizations on the planet where they all started to develop the same technology it's possible or I would say like a collective Consciousness Consciousness based in Schumann resonance totally or I'd take a step back and there is a perennial debate in physics which you know there's this idea of the anthropic principle which is why is Plink's constant you know gravity uh even the creation of you know h2o the the bonding of a hydrogen oxygen molecules why are all of these things just right to support life on Earth yeah and you have one camp which is like well you try enough iterations and you eventually get this Goldilocks thing and it works. And then you have another camp being like, no, the earth was created, simulated, terraformed. And I think they're interesting points to go towards that camp. And the Schumann resonance would be one of them where you could put a frog embryo in a Faraday cage. So you're cutting off the Schumann resonance. There's no electromagnetic frequency that can go into the cage and it'll grow all messed up. And then on the other side of that, if you grow a plant or something, anything like right next to a wifi router or like a classic example is like Chernobyl where you have a lot of radiation. You know, that's obviously going to really mess up literally the morphology of the being. There's an amazing professor at Tufts who writes about the bioelectricity of the body. His name is Michael Levin. And I think at this point he's like conventional, he's going on like Lex Friedman and stuff and like, and he's not fringe science. And he, he works off a guy named Gary Becker who wrote an amazing book called the body electric. And it's this, the idea that basically like DNA is the hardware and the software is actually the bioelectric field of the body, which is interacting at all times with the local electromagnetic field, which is the Schumann resonance. So I do think in some ways it looks like the earth is like set up. Also think about it like this, like, like natural selection, you need a certain amount of solar. Radiation to create this, like, like a certain amount of differential selection because of random mutations that it creates, but you can't have too much and you can't have too much that penetrates the magnetosphere of the earth. So you need the Van Allen belt. So you have this like Goldilocks thing going on there. You have like a lot of these things where, and you can always, it's this impossible thing to say, well, you can't definitively say we're just, you know, sheer luck. And then on the other side, you can't say we're definitely simulated, but there there's, there are more points in this camp than people, you know, take seriously, at least in kind of, you know, modern academia. Yeah. It's interesting. You bring up the biophysics and biochemistry topic because that's another application for some of these ancient stone structures around the world. For example, there's a temple site in Japan called the Ogami Gaishi stone circle, which is another one of these tough hillsides. And it has a massive stone circle, like immense pillars of andesite stones. There's a big protruding obelisk, standing stone at the top of the hill that has all of these pock marks and scars from being repeatedly struck by lightning and a huge magnetic field surrounding this pillar stone. One of the sides of the pillar stone is basically completely flattened on one side and you can walk by it and it has a completely rotating magnetic field. It'll go 360 degrees on the compass. As you move across this surface within the temple, there's all of these protrusions and there's a hole in the side of them, like this head shaped hole. Inside of one of these andesite stones, profound magnetic and electric field radiating from the stone circle. So some of these sites are actually intended for human interface for manipulation of human biophysics, biochemistry, and electric and magnetic signals going on our body. And for some reason, when I'm at these sites, we always walk around barefoot at all the ancient sites. So we're walking around barefoot, you know, releasing negative ions and all this stuff and just connecting to the site directly. And for some reason I got the idea, I said, man, why don't you stick your head in that magnet hole? So I was like sticking my head in this. It's exactly a head shaped hole in this huge andesite stone that has this profound magnetic field and the magnetic field gets stronger inside of that hole for some reason. So I was sticking my head in the magnet hole and we're interfacing with the site. And I was like, dude, this is part of the function of this structure is if you knew how to do the ritual correctly, you could reestablish and reorient your body's natural magnetic field. If it was out of alignment or anything like that. So I think there's interface applications for some of these structures around the world. I don't think the pyramids, you are definitely not meant to go inside of the Egyptian, but there are other structures. For example, the temples adjacent to the Egyptian pyramids, like the Valley temple in Giza is absolutely intended for human interface to interact with the electric fields, the magnetic fields and the ultrasound within the temple. Yeah. It's like a tuning fork for the body or something. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. And you can, I mean, again, if you're in a temple, if you're in a temple, if you're in a temple, if you're in a temple, if you're in a temple, if you're in a temple, this sounds crazy, but you can turn molecular mass into frequency that normal conventional science and cymatics, normal conventional science, the idea that you, you know, you can create these literal structures with sand and vibrational plates. So the idea that acoustics have no effect on the body is also crazy. Right. So to any skeptics out there, I think, you know, you should definitely remain open-minded on, you know, that hypothesis being true. You really clearly explained the, you know, the idea that you can create these literal structures with sand and vibrational plates. So the idea that acoustics have no effect on the body is also crazy, right? You really clearly explained how stone circles equal agriculture. Uh, I think a lot of people might be asking the question now, stone circles, the pyramids, two very different things. One seems like a big step function change up in, you know, advancement technologically. Yep. Explain the path from stone circle to pyramids. So I also want to talk about another phenomenon that occurs during thunderstorms and lightning strikes was this generation of radio waves, right? And there was a paper that came out a while back that talked about the capability of the great pyramid to store and concentrate electric fields directly around the King's chamber. Fascinating paper. And the input was radio waves that were used to activate this induced electric field, this concentrated electric field inside of the structure. And until recently, shout out the folks at, uh, demystify size Shiloh and Anastasia, um, that actually brought up this connection to radio waves. I was presenting the paper and I had suggested that they should change the parameters of the experiment to use electrical current instead of radio waves. She was like, well, don't you know that, you know, like during thunderstorms and lightning strikes, profound radio signals are generated. So there's a direct connection between lightning strikes, radio waves, and this paper that demonstrates that the pyramids are able to concentrate electric fields. So how does all this connect? To stone circle technology and the power source of the Egyptian pyramids. So we talk about telluric current accumulation from below the structure, generating a positive charge on the surface. This directly connects to, we'll talk about the great pyramid. So below the great pyramid, there are subterranean aquifers on the Giza plateau. We talked about that yesterday, the water table below Giza, et cetera. There's water below the structure. There's also iron or hydrothermal metal mineral. Deposits embedded in the limestone bedrock of the Giza plateau, which are also directly connected to sites for telluric current accumulation. So you have these iron veins that actually emanate from the core bedrock below the great pyramid, also in the core bedrock of the central pyramid. So the pyramids are built on a mound of bedrock. So these iron veins facilitate the uptake of telluric currents into the great pyramid. The same phenomenon, which is part of the structure, is also applied with dielectric polarization and electric field accumulation that generates a positive charge at the surface of, at the top of the great pyramid. This was also experimentally shown in the same paper when the vector of transmission from below created a substantial positive electric field accumulation at the top of the great pyramid, a target for negatively charged cloud to ground lightning strikes, which activated the chemical sequence inside of the structure to produce sulfuric acid. The product of the great pyramid is sulfuric acid. And the strongest evidence that we have for this actually comes from Christopher Dunn's book, where there was a sample analysis taken in the 1970s by Richard Flanagan. I believe it was the University of either New Mexico or Nevada, took samples from inside of the Queen's Chamber and Grand Gallery. And they found that the salt accumulation that was up to an inch thick was calcified. And they also found big patches of gypsum, which is also a calcium sulfate-based plaster. Calcium sulfate is a direct result of the chemical reaction between dilute sulfuric acid and calcium carbonate limestone. And by allowing that reaction to occur, you are creating a chemically insoluble salt layer sealer. So the chemical reaction itself creates a chemically insoluble salt layer sealer. So the chemical reaction itself creates a chemically resistant coating compound within the Queen's Chamber that protected the limestone chambers from the reaction because calcium sulfate is insoluble and dilute sulfuric acid. If it was hydrochloric acid, as Christopher Dunn proposes, there would have been calcium chloride because of the reaction between hydrogen chloride and calcium carbonate would have created calcium chloride salt. But let's back up for a second because I know we're getting way into the weeds. This is important, though. So again, for anybody that's interested, please check out my YouTube channel. I was going to say, if you want a brief overview, but neither one of the recent podcasts I've done are a brief overview. But the mountain of evidence that supports this hypothesis is just immense. And I can go down any tangent or rabbit hole that you want me to. That's really clear. No, no, that's clear. I want to start with very high level. So like, yeah. Yeah. Like, so you have stone circles into pyramids. OK, so let's I want like I want like insight into like how why would you create the pyramids to begin with? Yep. And then. And your thesis specifically on how the pyramids each, because it's a really cool thesis on how each one plays a complementary role in a kind of a chain reaction or like an assembly line rather of chemical manufacturing chain reaction. So, yeah, can you give those both high level and then I will, I will be the audience surrogate kind of querying you for more in detail. So I think we should do the transition because there's an intermediary step here between stone circles and then we have passage chamber reactors like Newgrange. And these structures are also located all over the world. Tumuli is what they refer to these things are conventionally, you know, long passage leading into an internal reaction chamber and Newgrange specifically has a tiered vault, like a tiered upper vault inside the chamber, very reminiscent of a later implementation that we have inside the red pyramid, bent pyramid, et cetera. So with. In Newgrange, there is a curb stone outside of Newgrange that's inscribed with all of these perplexing symbols and based on my interpretation of these symbols, that curb stone is actually an instruction manual. It is a rudimentary depiction of a chemical reaction sequence that's telling you exactly what was happening inside of the structure. So this is the basic implementation of an encased chemical reactor system with internal chambers. That's embedded in a big mound or proto pyramid type structure. And it involves a very simple chemical reaction where moist circulating airflow within the structure is oxidizing pyrite or marcosite Fe2 iron disulfide oxidizing iron disulfide to create ferrous sulfate. So it's a very simple chemical reaction. Air flows in the structure, picks up moisture from the water, that moist airflow circulating inside of the structure. Creates this chemical reaction. So that's the first example of internal chemical reactor technology that we have on the planet. You bump that up a little bit and then all of a sudden you have the Egyptian pyramids. And this is an evolution over probably a thousand years of technological development. So let's start with why they would build the Egyptian pyramids. The primary impetus for the construction of the Egyptian pyramids is harnessing the abundant natural resources in Egypt and converting them into chemicals. So Egypt is the primary location on the planet for the construction of these type of monuments due to the concentration of all of the factors that are integrated in the operation of these structures. We have subterranean water. We have metal or mineral deposits. We have the ideal construction materials, the best quality limestone, granite, black basalt. Everything that you would need is abundantly available in Egypt, starting with natural gas. Methane. Which is an essential commodity even today for basic domestic applications, heating, lighting, etc. It's also a critical industrial chemical syngas that is used to create other chemicals. It's a synthesis gas. So that's the dawn of pyramid building in Egypt is extracting bedrock deposits of methane gas for domestic and industrial applications. That's stage number one. Stage number two. Again, there's a. Big evolution in technology between the function of the step pyramid, which utilizes an external reservoir. So all the pyramids have external reservoirs. These enclosures that surround the pyramids. Those were used to hold water that are utilized in the internal reaction chamber systems to manipulate pressure. So same thing applies to all of the pyramids. The mechanisms of operation that apply to the step pyramid apply to the red pyramid, bent pyramid, great pyramid and central pyramid. So that's the first one. So you're using the external reservoir to manipulate the water level inside of the step pyramid to increase and decrease pressure within your fracking tunnels. It's the same way we do fracking today is by pumping high pressure water into these subterranean methane deposits. You increase and decrease the pressure, which allows the methane to bubble up and be collected out of the fracking system. That's the operation of the step pyramid. We then have intermediary structures like the pyramid of my doom in the Fiume Oasis. Which was a test structure that was designed to model and implement the same physics and chemistry as the red pyramid. There was a catastrophic collapse. They abandoned that project, then moved back to Dahshur, which was the original intended destination for that chemical manufacturing plant, built the red pyramid and the bent pyramid. So there are some intermediary structures that are indicative of the evolution of technology and implementing smaller scale test structures. All of this starting on a small laboratory scale, the same way we do today. So for example, sulfuric acid, how would an ancient civilization figure out how to make sulfuric acid? It's the same way we did during the medieval period in the alchemical investigation of chemical reactions. You take a bunch of materials, I have a raw chunk of sulfur, I set the sulfur on fire, it burns with that blue flame and I see that there's a gas coming out of it. You design an apparatus to collect that gas and water, then you test that water on various stuff and oh, it reacts. It reacts with all these metals, voila, sulfuric acid. You then take that sulfuric acid, you drop it on a bunch of stuff, specifically salt in this example. Huge accumulations of sodium chloride were found inside of the central pyramid, which is the initial reactant within the central pyramid to create hydrochloric acid. So the great pyramid was producing sulfuric acid, that sulfuric acid was utilized inside of the central pyramid, reacted with salt to create hydrochloric acid. So by rudimentary experimentation on a laboratory scale, we can get to the same industrial scale processes that we have in the Egyptian pyramids. Fan Duel is now available everywhere in the U.S. Most rewarding season ever with Fan Duel. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. They were also adept at using subterranean natural resources as the initial reactants for these systems. For example, Pyramid Kuramanta in Japan. Building that pyramid on top of a geothermal hot spring where there's natural heat energy and sulfur gas coming up into the structure is the exact same thing. Is the exact same technology that's implemented in the Great Pyramid that is built on top of a subterranean karst cave and tunnel system that has hydrogen sulfide gas from sulfitic groundwater. We talked a little bit about that yesterday and I showed the paper of a geological investigation of the Giza Plateau that shows hydrocarbon seepages below Giza, which also corroborates my hypothesis about the Step Pyramid being built on a hydrocarbon deposit, methane specifically. And Giza Plateau, they specifically refer to ascending hydrogen sulfide gas, which is the exact same thing that we have at Pyramid Coromanta, being the initial reactant, hydrogen sulfide, that is inevitably converted into sulfuric acid within the Great Pyramid. The Great Pyramid is sitting directly on top of a natural resource, which is the impetus for pyramid technology, utilizing natural resources and the power source from the earth. So the natural resources. The resource optimization technology of this ancient civilization involves power from telluric currents and lightning, natural resources in construction materials, because the construction materials and the material composition of all these different types of stone have specific properties that are implemented into various applications within all the structures. Again, mica, micaceous sandstone, red granite, black basalt, whatever it is, all of them have specific material properties. We also have subterranean. We also have subterranean conductivity anomalies like spring water and mineral ore deposits that facilitate the uptake of telluric currents, i.e. the power source. And then finally, natural gas and metal ore mineral reserves. So the input for each pyramid is atmospheric electricity to the electricity. And then the output, just high level for each pyramid is in each case. Step Pyramid methane. Yep. Red Pyramid ammonia. Okay. Bent Pyramid. I have two hypotheses for the. Function of the Bent Pyramid. I think it was originally used to make urea and it was later modified to create dilute nitric acid. Okay. So two different hypotheses for the function of the Bent Pyramid. We've also found coating compound within the Bent Pyramid that would have protected the limestone walls from the vitriolic chemical reaction because you want to seal that limestone because it's going to be reactive with these chemical acidic solutions. So methane, ammonia, urea, nitric acid, anything else? And then on the Great Pyramid. We have sulfuric acid within the Great Pyramid, hydrochloric acid within the Central Pyramid, and I have a developing hypothesis on the Final Pyramid that it was used to make a basic solution. You have acids and bases, and so if you want to have a basic solution to neutralize the process. Sure. So you have, you know, six or seven compounds. Yeah. What are you doing with, like, why are these particularly useful? As far as. Establishment. Establishment. Kardashev Scale One Abilities, and for the audience, Kardashev Scale is essentially any civilization's. ability to harness power and it's uh you know power and natural resource of the earth power natural resource of the earth and then two is like i believe interplanetary and yeah yeah three is intergalactic and then you get you go up the scale yeah yeah and we're not even at one yet in modern civilization we're rated as a 0.7 on the kardashev scale yes and as i was talking about about you know like um hydrothermal electricity or uh um hydroelectric dams or nuclear power again we're not harnessing the the power of the earth we're creating our own electricity which is a different type of technology altogether and i would say that the ancient civilization was more adept at using earth's electricity than we are today we're not we're not harnessing lightning we're not using lightning in any effective way we're certainly not using telluric currents because it's such a low voltage power it's like it's a trickle of electricity that runs through the earth so it's not um applicable for industrial scale applications like we have today so we're certainly not using this electrical power the same way that um we do today but we have a similar style of utilizing natural resources we extract methane today methane mining natural gas mining fracking operations all those sorts of things are definitely implemented in our technology today so going back to why would they do this and why are these chemicals important so a lot of these chemicals are probably one of the most important chemicals that was ever discovered and produced on an industrial scale it is the reason that we had the exponential growth of our civilization after the industrial revolution it was absolutely critical in the production of fertilizer that allowed our civilizations to grow to levels that had never seen before ammonia-based fertilizer and sulfuric acid are two of the most important chemical commodities that we make on the face of the planet today it's often said that the advanced level of a particular country is based on the amount of sulfuric acid that it produces and consumes who says that that's interesting that's just sort of a general reference to how we can look at the level of industrialization of any particular area is sulfuric acid manufacturing and consumption is one of the indicators of the industrialization of any particular why is that so fundamental to the advancement everything all so many different chemical commodities are based on sulfuric acid basically so it's almost a like a proxy or a metric for just how productive the country is correct yeah it's one of one of the ways that you can assess the industrialization of a country but it's less of an input or a determinant of success than it is a marker of success sure yeah yeah but again ammonia so methane for example we still use methane today natural gas our house in japan and egypt run on natural gas cars in egypt run on natural gas they actually don't use um you know fuel like we do petroleum they use natural gas a lot of the cars in egypt are converted into natural gas that's why the u.s is you know positioned so strategically because we have a lot of you know natural gas reserves yeah it's a critical it's a critical industrial chemical commodity same thing with ammonia ammonia is absolutely huge in the agricultural industry again it's one of the most important chemicals that was ever discussed in the world and it's one of the most important chemicals that was ever discussed in the world and it's one of the most important chemicals that was ever discussed in the world and it's one of the most important chemicals that was ever discussed in the world and it's one of the most important chemicals that was ever discussed in the world and made on an industrial scale so what do you think they were doing with these chemicals we talk about the mind like it's separate from the body but it's not your body is 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history the african humid period so there's all this rain transforming the desert so these fertilizers aren't necessarily related to the agricultural areas around the nile river because during this time frame we have a population exodus moving into the upper eastern sahara so these fertilizers are utilized in conjunction with white horse hill cumulonimbus thunderstorm generators for terraforming applications within the upper eastern sahara and i would almost guarantee that if they were to excavate in the sahara we would find cumulonimbus white horse hills that were excavated from bedrock formations within the upper eastern sahara that were possibly responsible for creating the saharan humid period so you think we had weather modification technology essentially that's what it is and that's another indication of the kardashev type 1 civilization is modification of weather so then it's it's reported in a lot of mythology around the planet specifically the mythological gods of ireland they had magic specifically the magic to control the weather and magic and mythology specifically refers to chemistry any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic yeah for sure but that okay but here this begets a really important question which is at some point you have to break with the conventional primitive to progress narrative and it sounds like you're saying that anti-diluvian pre-ice age we've had civilizations on earth that were pretty advanced yeah oh yeah and in a different way completely different mindset than what we have today yes no totally in a way that and i think this is why people love the movie avatar so much it's because they're like living in a harmonious way with the earth in direct connection with the forces of nature one question this begets is okay let's say that there was this advanced anti-diluvian civilization you had a great flood you had a lot of it get wiped out but you did have some remnant survivors you had some technology transfer let's assume all of that's true yeah at what point does that knowledge get lost because today we're saying that we're kind of less advanced in certain ways yeah so yeah what point does that technology get lost so again around to go back to egyptian civilization specifically around 5300 bc the saharan humid period ends the rains stop everything starts to era back to the area around the nile river and this is kind of the beginning of the dynastic civilization around 3500 bc which is the mark in conventional history and archaeology for the beginning of dynastic egypt even egyptians and egyptologists will tell you the civilization is much older because the hallmark of the beginning of the dynastic period is known as the reunification of upper and lower egypt as indicated by the narmer palette or the meanies palette so reunification of Upper and Lower Egypt implies that Upper and Lower Egypt already prior to dynastic Egypt. And I believe it's the Palermo Stone that shows that there's Egyptian civilization that dates back far before the dynastic period. Interesting. Okay. So, but what about the knowledge? Yeah. So I think the knowledge persisted. It was infused in the ancient esoteric mystery schools and hidden. It was no longer done on an industrial scale. It was done on a small scale within these ancient mystery schools. Why do you think it got moved into mystery schools? So I never think, I don't think generally speaking, and this is just kind of my perception. So the chemicals would have had industrial ubiquitous applications for the benefit of society at large, but the temples and the interface in these magnetic field temples and all of these rituals that prolong life, I don't think that was ever intended for the public. I think that they were, you know, same thing we have today, power structures at be during that time, period. And only certain individuals were allowed to participate in those life prolonging rituals. I still, I still wonder what the shift is between, you know, industrial scale chemical power plants to like, even I think of like the Hellenistic period, the Greeks, the Romans, and I don't think of them as harnessing the earth's power in quite the same way or doing sort of geoengineering. Interesting mythology about Zeus. Yeah, for sure. They do have. Zeus is the lightning guy. Yeah, Poseidon or all that stuff. Yeah, so there's some certainly some mythology that connects this civilization. But is there evidence, because you have physical evidence in the case of ancient Egypt. Do you have physical evidence in the case of, you know, later stuff? So I haven't focused on the Greek and Roman period yet. Yeah. However, on my channel, you know, I have members only channel and I do these live Google Earth investigations. Yes. People have suggested, for me to look at Roman sites. And there's this same mathematical connection of 5,300 meters and 2,300 meters encoded in Roman sites as well. And these hillsides that have the same configuration as the White Horse Hills of Wilshire, England. So interesting. So I only have, you know, so much bandwidth and everybody's like, look at this site and look at this site and look at this site. And I only very recently started looking at Teotihuacan because that one is also encoded with esoteric alchemical information. So you can see, you know, if you have the Pyramid of Quetzalcoatl, Quetzalcoatl is the lightning god. Telling you exactly where the lightning was striking within the temple and what the power source is. Then you have the Pyramid of the Sun and the Pyramid of the Moon. The Pyramid of the Sun, the Sun is an alchemical symbol for gold and the Moon is an alchemical symbol for silver. So thus, pyramids of Teotihuacan are lightning powered gold and silver processing facility. You know what I think you should- South American alchemy. If it's South American alchemy. Central American alchemy. Exactly. You know what I think you should do is like create a small commune where you just literally, I'm serious about this. You create these, you know, kind of lightning rod like structures. Sure. You create these chemical manufacturing plants that just harness earth energy. You place it in at a, you know, strategic site that like where that makes sense. And you kind of recreate the way these ancient people live. Yeah, so I have a dream for this, this project. Yeah. You know, I'm a, I'm a self-published author. Yeah. And a YouTuber with, I have probably now by the time you're watching, I got 70,000 subscribers. So you can envision what that's like and living on that kind of budget. You know, I fund all of my stuff independently and you know, things are slowly starting to grow. And of course I have a dream for where I want this thing to go. Yeah. And you know, again, we're talking about Danny blowing up in the new studio. Yeah. I would love to build something like that where I have a huge alchemical laboratory. Yeah. We're actually doing a series of experiments on my channel and I've publicly and on the members only channel put out these experiments where I'm working with a friend from the brainstorm channel, shout out Ben. So I actually got the biggest recognition that I have in my career of doing this pyramid research by a guy named Andy Hall from the Thunderbolts project. Cool. And he's an engineer that had a lifelong career building, designing, building and co-operating chemical and power plants. And he wrote a huge, not a paper, but a post on his website, basically an article espousing the virtues of my work and corroborating why they are chemical manufacturing facilities that are powered by earth's electricity. He's a member of the Thunderbolts channel in the electric universe, you know, Velikovsky and all these guys. Yeah, yeah. Donald Scott, is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that was probably the biggest accolade that I've gotten in my career was recognition by Andy through my work. And the team at the Thunderbolts, I got in touch with this guy, Ben, who's also an electrical plasma experimental contributor to the Thunderbolts project. And we've been doing all sorts of experiments to test. For example, we recently demonstrated that stones can conduct electricity over a gap, which is the premise of my hypothesis for the step-down voltage transformers, that they're used to distribute lightning across these spaced avenues of stone. And we experimentally demonstrated that if you induce, voltage and send electrical current into one stone, it absolutely arcs into the next stone. So we're also doing chemical experiments on surface testing, the generation of ultrasound from red granite. So there's a lot of developing experimental evidence that is going to inevitably support this hypothesis as well. So I've got academic research papers that support all of the step-by-step mechanisms of operation. Then we're also branching out into experimental, and then we're going to be reaching out to people who are very interested in this. And I think that's going to be a lot of fun. - Yeah, I think that's going to be a lot of fun. - And into, and that's exciting that you're doing, that's great. - Yeah, like we were talking about with Filippo. - I know. - You know, I got my work cut out for me. - Yeah. - And I've put in nine years of my life to this. - Yeah. - To get to where I am today. - Yeah. - But that for me is not anywhere near where I want this to be in the future. - What's your conviction level that you're right, that the pyramids are a chemical manufacturing plant? - So, I mean, I'm extremely confident in this. - What would you, if you had to put a number on it? - I would never say that I'm a hundred percent sure. I'm not the, so first and foremost, I would never say that I have all the answers. - Yeah. - I would never say that I understand these structures. - Would you say above 90? - I'm extremely confident in it above 90%. Yeah, absolutely. I would never ever say that I'm a hundred percent right. So I've always said in regard to my work, say I create this, it is an immense body of work. No one can argue with the amount of effort that I've put into this. - Oh yeah. - And the substantiating evidence. Let's say you take a look at that whole body of work and someday long in the future, maybe after I'm dead and gone, somebody looks at this body of work and starts to break everything down. So let's say I'm only 10% right about this entire body of work. That 10% right is going to be a massive jump forward. - Yeah. - Same thing like I said with Biondi, I gave him 20%. Even if that 20% is right, it's a massive leap forward into something that we never dreamed was possible. - Totally. Yeah. - And that's what I feel about my work and the process of creating new hypotheses. - Yeah. - It's super important that people take risks and try to come up with new interpretations for the function of these structures. If we don't continue to push the envelope forward, the conversation goes nowhere, which is why I respect Filippo and the SAR team 'cause they're trying to do something different. Implementing new technology to better understand the Egyptian pyramids. I'm kind of on the other side of the coin where I'm proposing a new novel, revolutionary hypothesis that not only contradicts the existing narrative of tombs, but it's also quite different than Christopher Dunn's work. - Yeah. - It's actually completely different when you look at the mechanisms of operation, how these systems operate, the mindset, the impetus, the implementation of natural resources, very, very different than Christopher Dunn's work. - So you have fossilized lightning. - Correct. - You obviously have ammonia in certain places, you know, in the Red Pyramid. - Yep. - You have, like, a decent amount of evidence. Can you list all of the evidence somewhat highly, I mean, it might take you years or whatever, but in the most digestible way. - My favorite piece of evidence is the calcium sulfate salt inside the Queen's Chamber and Grand Gallery of the Great Pyramid, which is a direct result of this chemical reaction between dilute sulfuric acid and the calcium carbonate limestone of the chamber. And we've done multiple private tours inside of the Great Pyramid. Where there's these strange pock marks inside of the Queen's Chamber. So let's say this calcium sulfate failed, and there was a small pocket of exposed limestone. When the chamber refills with dilute sulfuric acid, it's going to create another reaction. The salt coating is going to develop. It then stops the reaction, but it creates a little divot in the limestone. So that calcium sulfate is probably my favorite piece of evidence for that chemical reaction process occurring in the Great Pyramid. And I have an interview coming up soon, with Dr. Brett Cohen, who is actually featured in the appendix of Christopher Dunn's new work. He's a PhD in chemistry. He also agrees that the Great Pyramid was producing sulfuric acid, although completely different mechanisms of operation and stages of the reaction. So we have a conversation coming up soon so we can talk about both of our mutual theories and how it differentiates from and somewhat disproves Christopher Dunn's original hypothesis. So that's probably my favorite piece of evidence. Then it comes to the chemical analysis of the iron veins on the Giza plateau, showing that there's valuable metal deposits. So iron, nickel, lead, tin, platinum, titanium, rare earth elements like neodymium, and then precious metals like gold and silver are all present in the chemical analysis data of these iron veins. And I know you were super interested and I want to show you some images. So you want to take a look at that? So this is the paper, the development of sulfuric acid speleogenetic deposits within cavernous middle eocene beds and inference on hydrocarbon gas seepages, Giza pyramids plateau, Egypt. So it's a geological investigation of the Giza plateau showing that there's hydrocarbon seepages below the pyramids, specifically referenced in this paper, hydrogen sulfide gas that's coming up from the natural karst cave and tunnel system below Giza. So seafloor hydrothermal vents, we showed this slide yesterday in the conversation with Biondi. Basically, the Giza plateau was the bottom of the Tethys Sea. Millions of years ago, the bedrock foundation of Giza was being formed at the bottom of the Tethys Sea. That's why the limestone, of Giza, is embedded with shells, covered in shells. You can't walk anywhere on Giza without finding shells. I didn't know that. It's pneumolytic limestone. We've also found all sorts of aquatic fossils embedded in the Giza bedrock. It's crazy. It's the bottom of the seafloor. Millions of years ago. There were hydrothermal vents going from the earth's core? So my hypothesis, and this has never been really talked about, the only other person that I know has even recognized these formations. Robert Shock thinks that it's a combination of two things. He proposes the idea of lightning and in conjunction with hydrothermal mineral vents. But he thinks that the Giza plateau was hit by a solar flare. And the solar flare created Lichtenberg patterns. So are you familiar with what a Lichtenberg pattern is? So it's a branch-like formation. It looks like a tree that happens when a dielectric material is subjected to extremely high voltage. So for example, if you take a piece of wood and you stick a high voltage current into that piece of wood, the voltage of the electric current is going to spread through that dielectric wood material and burn these branch-like Lichtenberg patterns. So that's what he thinks they are. We have chemical analysis data showing that they aren't necessarily Lichtenberg figures, but they operate due to the same principles of a Lichtenberg figure. They're natural hydrothermal metal or mineral deposits, but they work in the same way as the formation of a Lichtenberg figure, which is the transmission of high voltage electric current through the dielectric material. So they're wires. A natural wiring system that connects all of the components on the Giza plateau. So they're wires. You're almost implying that the inputs are coming from below and from above. Like you have like lightning, essentially. Correct. And then you also have hydrothermal vents. Correct. Interesting. Yeah. So the hydrothermal ancient seafloor formations created these metal mineral deposits that are embedded within the limestone bedrock of the Giza plateau. This is why Giza was selected. It was the prime location that had all of the natural resources that were utilized for this chemical manufacturing and metallurgical mining operation. This just feels so much more advanced than the stone circles. It's like, oh yeah, it's real. It's wild. Yeah. But it's the same premise. Yeah. Telluric currents coming from below, but it makes directly connected to natural resources like subterranean spring water and metal or mineral deposits. Those telluric current accumulations at the site being the prime location for lightning strikes. It makes me sympathetic. It's the same mechanism. Yes. Yes. Which is, I think, a critical part of my hypothesis is that it's able to connect technology from different eras of this ancient civilization under the same umbrella. All of the mechanisms that apply to stone circles can also be extrapolated into the function of the pyramids. It does feel like a technological great leap forward. Oh, well, it's thousands of years too. Yeah. Thousands of years. But is there a. I always make the example. Yeah. So from the 1500s to 2025. Sure. 2026 now. Look how far we've come. In 600, 500 years. Massive leap in 500 years. We were shooting muskets 150 years ago. Exactly. Right. So imagine, again, the same intellectual capabilities of human civilization, what they could do in a thousand years. Yeah. Look where we're going to be in a thousand years. Hopefully we're still here, right? Yeah. But for me, that advancement is certainly possible given that timeframe of human civilization existing. Yeah. Not to mention. If you go back to a civilization that possibly existed before the last ice age, they already had the knowledge. Yeah. But they started building the simplest stuff because it was the easiest to build and it was the most critical. What's the first thing you need? Food. Of course. If everything is frozen at the end of the last ice age, we also got to thaw all this stuff out. Well, what's a better way to do that than inject some lightning into the ground? Mm-hmm. Sure. Thaw out all the agricultural areas. Yeah. We're going to get some rainfall. We're going to reinvigorate the earth. Electroculture is another application for this electric current. Mm. And electroculture is an established practice when it comes to growing plants and that sort of thing. So again, lightning stimulating telluric currents brings telluric current energy, much lower voltage, electric current to these agricultural areas. It's stimulating electroculture. Yeah. By bringing lightning back to the earth. It's so fascinating. It's still. It makes me somewhat sympathetic. To the ancient alien crowd, which despite my, you know, the theme of my show, I'm not always sympathetic with. Like I often, I don't know where I stand between Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson, and the idea that like you have hydrothermal vents creating a natural wiring system coming from, you know, essentially below the earth on the seafloor. And then you also have the ability to harness, you know, electricity from the atmosphere, I think is really remarkable. When you're talking about. It's awesome. It's awesome. It's amazing. Yeah. And then it does, it does, you know, beg the question, were we intervened with at all? Sure. And why was this knowledge lost? And. So I want to go back to something real quick. Yeah. In regard to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson, I definitely didn't want to disparage them in any way when I wasn't incorporating them in the lost ancient high technology community. I have the utmost respect for Graham and Randall. You made that clear. I don't take that. Randall. Randall and I are brothers from another mother. Yeah. And I would love for Randall to hear about this. Yeah. How have they not heard about this yet? I have no good explanation for that. Well, you're. And why isn't anyone acknowledging it? I don't have a good explanation for that. So anyone that could get me in contact with them, I have people that know them that. I invited Randall to our discussion yesterday, actually. So, yeah, no, he. So I don't know how they haven't gotten word of this yet. Yeah. But I would love. I would love for them to be introduced to this topic just so that I can have more eyes on it. Yeah. Right? I appreciate people that are extremely qualified that want to analyze my work, which is why I'm engaging with this PhD chemist. I'm engaging with electrical engineers. Amazing. People from the petroleum industry have all contacted me and say, hey, this is. You're on the right track. Whatever you're doing here checks a lot of boxes in terms of the applications of the ancient technology. I've been to Georgia, Houston, Cleveland, Minnesota, Buffalo, Lincoln, Chi-Town, Arizona. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Technology. So we've talked about, you know, the chemicals that these different pyramids are producing, the chain reaction. You know, I think everybody can take at face value that the chemicals themselves are useful in the cases of agriculture, metallurgy, mining. Do you have good evidence that ancient Egypt was engaging in those three things? Agriculture, metallurgy, and mining. So you mentioned another good, compelling pieces of evidence that this was happening on the Giza Plateau. Yeah. So we also have chemical analysis data from various samples, of areas in the boat pits. Are you familiar with what the boat pits are? No. So let me show you on the diagram. Yeah. So we have chemical analysis data from inside of the boat pits. We also have control samples that were taken from other areas of the Giza Plateau that show that's what's found in the boat pits are unique phenomenon into the boat pits. So inside the boat pits adjacent to the Great Pyramid, we find more sulfate compounds. In the boat pits adjacent to the Central Pyramid, we find, the chloride compounds, a direct indication and connection to sulfuric acid production inside the great pyramid because those boat pits are used as circuit breakers um whoa wow so i'm gonna let's let's jump because i'll blow your mind here and i don't know how long we've been going but um so tin nickel lead platinum this is a sample that has 35 platinum wow from these iron veins wow here we have prasodimium and neodymium yep this is a sample that has thorium also thorium keeps popping up so thorium is an element that is present in the black placer sand deposits on the northern coast of egypt uh-huh and it's currently a raw material source for nuclear materials yeah in china they have a thorium reactor yeah yeah absolutely thorium popped up not only in the chemical analysis of the staining inside the red pyramid but it's also popped up in these iron veins so wild this is silver different concentrations of silver found in the iron veins this is different concentrations of gold and this is a particle of electrum which is a naturally occurring um mix of silver and gold so the boat pit circuit breakers so these boat pits interrupt the iron vein wiring network they are breaks in the circuit and we've found so these spheres here are fused silica microspheres from the fulgurites that were discovered in these iron deposits fused silica this is me down inside one of the boat pits adjacent to the great pyramid so they're circuit breakers the the iron vein network connects all of the components on the giza plateau and these circuit breakers were filled with dilute sulfuric acid or dilute hydrochloric acid to open and close the breaker so wild man circuit breakers this is a map that i created of the iron vein network wow this is a map that i created of the iron vein network this is a map that i created of the iron vein network wow it all emanates from the core of the central pyramid and the great pyramid and it spreads all across the giza plateau connecting all of these various structures is there anything astronomically significant about the alignment of the pyramids i know people kind of often misquote yeah and say that it's you know exactly mapped to ryan's belt but so in regard to the king's chamber air shafts a lot of people say that those are star shafts yeah that point out to certain constellations the original archaeological documentation shows that the shafts go horizontal at the end they don't go diagonally pointing at stars the the termination of the air shaft is actually flat and horizontal so they don't point at anything the orion correlation showing that some of these structures are connected to orion's belt i think that's true and if you look at the alchemical medieval processes that they were doing everything with ancient alchemy was done in conjunction with celestial alignments like you're connected collecting the dew during certain phases of the moon or you're waiting for a conjunction with venus or other planets to perform these alchemical operations they had an understanding that whether this is true or not that chemical reactions and molecular transformations happen more effectively in conjunction with certain celestial alignments so interesting so many people you know use that for ancient alien astronaut theory but in fact maybe it is just very functional yeah so last thing red pyramid yeah staining inside of the red pyramid wild you can see indications of the fluid dynamics we have experiments that demonstrate these same fluid dynamic staining patterns and then we go to old fritz haber and this is the original apparatus that fritz haber made and this is it in comparison to the three chambers wild the red pyramid crazy again there's absolutely no reason for him to put this third one on a stand like that but it's the same configuration that we have in the chambers of the red pyramid so wild yeah it's crazy i can skip through some of this stuff and you don't have to show this on screen but we talked about the kardashev scale we talked about using earth's natural resources for the power source this is a picture of one of the white horse hills the uffington white horse hill that were used to generate cumulonimous thunderstorm clouds lightning the power source these white horse hills cumulonimbus thunderstorm generators that are the power sources of structures like aveberry we talked about the calanese stone circle and how these stone circles were used for terraforming applications this is a picture of the saharan humid period period where fourteen thousand years ago the sahara was a desert about seven thousand years ago monsoon rains were transforming basically all of africa so huge terraforming whether it's natural environmental changes or implementation of ancient technology that's up for debate for the the viewers in the you know research community in general but i think it's a result of intentional terraforming utilizing cumulonimbus thunderstorm generators and chemicals then we go into things like the solar lunar and tidal calculators that are built into structures like aveberry because the moon also has a profound effect on lightning strikes twenty five percent more lightning strikes occurring during the full moon why is that so it's a it's a direct result of the modulation of the earth's geomagnetic field and the tidal pull on the earth from the moon yeah this is a paper called the moon effect on lightning that shows that there's an increase in lightning activity in the new phase of the moon so they were tracking the conjunctions between the sun the earth and the moon in order to accurately predict when lightning strikes were going to occur and so piezoelectricity where does that play into this so in dunn's model that is kind of the yeah that's used yeah so i think it's the opposite okay so there's a phenomenon called inverse piezoelectric effect what is that where the input is electricity so in the piezo electric effect the input is sound vibrations and the output is electrical current the input in piezoelectricity is mechanical compression right mechanical forces compressing the quartz which generate electrical discharge i think it's the exact opposite where the input is electrical current and the output is ultrasound it's called the inverse piezoelectric effect it's how ultrasound transducers work and what would the purpose of ultrasound yeah so ultrasound is currently being used in a discipline called sono chemistry which is sound chemistry whoa as a catalyst for chemical reactions whoa so the king's chamber and the antechamber within the great pyramid are acoustic catalyst chambers that catalyze the chemical reaction between sulfur dioxide and oxygen into sulfur trioxide to produce sulfuric acid when did we figure out sono chemistry like in modern civilization so i don't know when the investigation started on that um there was a paper that mentioned that it was looked at during the 1970s but it's it's kind of a newer discipline where they're starting to use ultrasound for various chemical reactions one specifically that comes to mind is called sonohydrogen where we're using ultrasound to break down water molecules to produce hydrogen and oxygen which is my hypothesis for the function of the serapium the underground tunnel system that has those big boxes um that's the serapium so again we're utilizing all of these natural resources converting natural resources into a variety of chemical commodities which is exactly what we do today this is showing the concentration of methane deposits around the nile river in egypt the sacred flame the impetus for the construction of the step pyramid this is the step pyramid and i have actual animations that show how the step pyramid works lightning this is talking about the connection between telluric currents and lightning are intimately linked also directly connected to subterranean natural resources the alchemical american alchemy or boros right connection between recirculating electric current in the earth because lightning also stimulates telluric currents so telluric currents are directly connected to the location for lightning strikes lightning strikes stimulate more pulses of telluric currents so it's a recirculating electric current system within the earth the or boros again the egyptian pyramids for example the step pyramid harnessing natural gas hydrogen being produced in the serapium sulfur and air being converted to sulfur trioxide within the great pyramid to produce sulfuric acid hydrogen and nitrogen being transformed in the red pyramid to create ammonia both of those two can be combined to create ammonium sulfate and ammonium sulfate usefulness is fertilizer yeah yeah so this is one of the stones of oshido ishi hill and this the scarring pock marks and melted top of the stone are a result of lightning strikes directly on that stone can i can i ask you a question yeah of course what would be your number one prediction bold prediction based on this hypothesis yeah so if you're right it could be something like the beyondy thing but different so like you're guessing that you would find another structure underneath the pyramids what's the thing that you would predict we'll discover in our lifetime that will further corroborate your work that we would discover in our lifetime yeah that's an interesting question and no one's ever asked that before um that would further substantiate my work so it's actually kind of directly connected to the beyondy thing okay and the scans of what's really below the giza plateau so i remember my first trip to egypt and i immediately got the sense that what we see above ground is only 50 percent of what's really there yeah and there is absolutely stuff below giza so for example the extraction network and the subterranean infrastructure that supports the above ground manufacturing process There are tunnels and chambers and shafts all below the Giza Plateau, not a kilometer deep, but relatively shallow below the surface. There are absolutely undiscovered shafts and chambers. For example, there are three openings on the back of the Sphinx enclosure, one of which has been corroborated by a friend of mine in the Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities to connect into the Queen's Chamber of the Great Pyramid, which would be the connection from the Queen's Chamber into the extraction shaft system that then connects into the Sphinx enclosure, which is the final stage of what was happening on the Giza Plateau. So there's an underground transverse horizontal shaft system that connects all of those vertical bedrock shafts that we were talking about yesterday. It's the industrial infrastructure below the Giza Plateau. The investigation of that is critical in understanding and sort of proving this industrial chemical manufacturing. Hypothesis, same thing below the Red Pyramid. If we had some scanning technology that could look into the Red Pyramid and look below the Red Pyramid, there should be an extraction shaft coming from below the final synthesis chamber of the Red Pyramid. The discovery of something like that would be monumental in pushing the needle forward in proving this hypothesis. And how do we take steps to find the extraction shaft? Good luck convincing the Ministry of Antiquities. Good luck convincing the Ministry of Antiquities to investigate anything that conflates the conventional hypothesis. Right. There's a conflict to the pharaonic barrel hypothesis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do not approve projects like that. It's so unfortunate. So that's why kind of circumventing that, like Biondi wants to do, the SAR team members cannot be actively involved in any project. Their affiliation with any excavations will immediately result in the disqualification of the approval process. Sure. So that's why he's saying he was. He's going to take a step back from it and let somebody else sponsor it. Just let's clean out the trash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah. Simple, non-invasive, constructive projects that could just clean up some of that stuff and, hey, let's just dig out the trash and get to the bottom of this shaft. See where it goes. I highly, I don't think they're going to allow that. Yeah. Even just that project, I would be extremely surprised. So unfortunate, too, because I think if you're at the. Apex of, you know, ancient advanced technology, all chemical, chemical manufacturing, or if done is right, if any of these things are true, that is so much cooler than we have this monument that was basically just a burial, you know, pharaonic tomb or whatever. So I've had even Andy Hall said, if any of this is right, it would be an absolutely monumental discovery. And I say the same thing. It's most GDP boosting. Even if 10% is correct of my whole body of work at the end of my lifetime, that 10% would be huge. And in the process of falsifying anything that I've proposed, we're going to get closer to the truth anyway. Yeah, exactly. So by saying this is right and this is wrong, we're going to take those pieces that are right, and then we're going to implement it into a new model. We'll discard the pieces that are wrong, and then we'll try new stuff. And eventually, we're going to build that framework of what's right and what's wrong, and we'll come to the apex. And that's the conclusion of what actually is the truth. So again, I think that's why it's important to not look at just the Great Pyramid. That's an extremely restricted perspective on ancient pyramid technology. How can you only focus on the one thing? What about all the rest of them? And if your mechanisms of X, Y, and Z do whatever, why don't those apply to all the rest of them? Do any other kind of ancient archaeological people like Graham Hancock, Robert Shock, how do they view your theory? Do they know what to do with it even? Or is it hard for them to process? You've probably noticed that I've gotten barely any recognition in the community. I don't track. None of the big names even touch my work. Why is that? So there, a lot of them are. If they're saying it's not a tomb, and then you have two people saying constructive things, you and Dunn, why wouldn't they take the other? Yeah. There's a very close-knit community. I don't have any idea of these people. Interesting. And they only deal within that community, and I am not a member of said community. So there's like in-group, out-group. Nor do I have any desire to be. And they're all on board with Christopher Dunn's theory, and will essentially reject anything that is the alternative of Dunn's theory. Would you ever debate Christopher Dunn? Oh, I wouldn't debate him. It was the same thing with Filippo. What would your conversation be? I would absolutely have a conversation with Dunn. Do you think he'd ever. And I'm certain he. He's familiar with my work. Do you think he'd be? I think it's been also brought up to Randall Carlson. They have to be. You know, I've gained enough traction just based on sort of grassroots growth. You know, I haven't had exponential growth of my channel. I have 70,000 subscribers, which is nothing in comparison to some of the larger channels out there. And it's been slow, steady, pain-staking growth, like absolutely excruciating trying to grow the channel. And every podcast I do, I get a little boost here, a little boost there. But it's never been that population explosion of people that are interested in my work because it's not as sexy as pyramid power plants. Right. Sure. That's what Andy Hall said. He's like, "It's a very mundane and practical theory." And people don't want mundane and practical when it comes to ancient technology. Well, you got to go where the facts lead. And I do think that some sort of Socratic round table that was just open and good vibes. Yeah. But those people generally refuse to even acknowledge my work or mention it on public settings. And I don't- Do you think Dunn would speak to you? Do you think Dunn would show up on a podcast with you? I have no idea. I've never spoken to him. I don't know about him personally. Yeah, yeah. I've only had, shout out Hugh Newman, Luke Caverns, Danny. Yeah. People like you are the only ones that have been willing to enter. Matt Bell, Limitless Podcast, they're advocates of my work and they're people that have been extremely supportive and willing to kind of give me a public platform to talk about these things. But I'm completely happy just doing my own thing. Acknowledgement or recognition from the community at large, because generally I don't respect the opinion of any of these people, with the exception of people like Christopher Dunn, because he is an engineer. Randall Carlson, I have a lot of respect for Randall Carlson, but there's some individuals in the ancient alternative history scene that I don't even want to be affiliated with, period. So don't talk about my work, because I want it to stand on its own. Well, one thing, even if I were to take a step back from the thing, because people, when it comes to me personally, people either love me or they absolutely hate me. You know, it's a very straw man argument where I don't have qualifications to be talking about this. It's all wild bullshit. Yeah, but that's the whole world of people. Sure, yeah. And that's just the toxicity of the community in which we live in terms of being YouTube. Well, you mentioned, because I brought up Ben Van Kirkwick and Uncharted X, and he has this idea of, you know, this large labyrinth under Hawara and this sort of tic-tac. Yeah. Shaped 40-meter-long object. And I asked you about this, and you said this came from a blog post. Yeah, yeah. So one of the guys that did the scans. Yeah. This was actually, the labyrinth has been known about for a long time. Yeah. It is not new news. And the recent scanning. It is cool, though. It's wild. The recent scanning. So everybody knows that the labyrinth is there. There is absolutely zero argument from the archaeological community that that's down there. Yeah. There was an expedition, I think it was 2008, called the Mataha Expedition. They GPR scanned it. They found it. They found that there's a huge slab, limestone slab, that's actually not the floor, but actually the roof of this underground chamber system. So they have had legitimate expeditions and excavations in Hawara, but the logistics of getting under there, the whole thing is underwater because of this canal that was excavated through the site. So the whole thing is underwater. So it involves incredibly sort of risky logistics that would potentially damage the structure. And when it comes to Egyptian excavations, anything that is under water is under water. So there's a lot of logistics and money that's needed for the excavation of Hawara, and nobody's coughing it up right now. The question I would have is, that I think is really important for your work, that I would look into if I were you, is like, when did this exactly get lost and move into these like hermetic substructures or whatever? Because that seems like really important. So I'm going to say something. Something very controversial, but fuck it. Go for it. So the quote, lost ancient high technology, is a crutch for people that don't have original content. No, that's great that you're saying that, but I think the onus is on you to explain why we're not doing this as the default, as far as, you know, why are we not at the Kardashev-1, but we were at the Kardashev-1 10,000 years ago? Yeah, so we've lost our connection to natural phenomena. And I don't know where that transition occurred, where the ancient mystery schools sort of maintained that connection to natural phenomenon, but it's possibly connected to the development of modern religion, where we no longer are nature spirit worship type people. We are completely absent from our connection to the earth and its conjunctions with the solar system and universe in general. Yeah. So I used to have a cushy career job. I had a house. I had a car. - How were you doing? - So I was the regional director and lead sales guy, but by virtue of being the only regional employee. So I was the regional director for the state for a large commercial cleaning company. So I did outside sales. I did all the operations, customer service, management of the company, et cetera, you know, corporate nine to five career job. Um, had a beautiful house, had a car living the American dream, making gobs of money. And I gave it all up. I quit my career. I sold my house. I sold my car. I sold everything I owned to go be a self-published author and a YouTuber to go live in Egypt. Explain that transition. Uh, so that's a, that's a wild story. So, um, I went to Egypt for the first time in 2017. Oh, this is a good story too, about the, the chameleon eye Google app person. This was my first research trip to Egypt and shout out to the amazing friend Yusuf Awian. Um, you've, I'm sure you've heard his name. He is the biggest sort of alternative tour guide in Egypt. His father was a prolific tour guide in Egypt and Yusuf has carried the torch of being the basically gatekeeper of ancient secrets in Egypt. If you're interested in the ancient stuff, you go with Yusuf. So I tracked Yusuf down and I was actually going to investigate this hypothesis about the great pyramid producing electricity. I wanted to see it for myself. So. So you were inspired by Christopher Dunn. You wanted it. Of course. Yeah. So, so again, I have just because I disagree, same thing with Filippo. Sure. Sure. Sure. Just because I disagree with him doesn't mean I don't have respect for him. He is the godfather of functional pyramid technology hypothesis and others have proposed the same output. The great pyramid is a power plant, power plant, power plant, power plant, only focusing on the great pyramid. So I go to Egypt 2017 with Yusuf. Our first stop was a site called Abu Seer. And I found this in situ artifact. There is a pyramid, known as the Pyramid of Niuseret. And adjacent to the Pyramid of Niuseret, there is an Eastern Temple. Below the Eastern Temple, there is a red quartzite conduit system. This red quartzite conduit goes underneath the black paving, black basalt paving of the Eastern Temple, and it deposits into a red quartzite collection bowl. Some sort of liquid was pouring into that bowl. To me, that was the first indication that the pyramids aren't actually producing electricity. Or collecting electricity, but the output was rather chemicals. The origin of the science of chemistry dates back to the dynastic Egyptians. Is that true? Yeah, yeah. They were the first people to make- Isn't chem, it's an Egyptian, like- Yeah, I was going to get to that. Yeah, so they were the first to make synthetic pigments. Calcium copper silicate, known as Egyptian blue, is the first synthetic pigment that was ever created on the planet. They were the first to make pharmaceuticals. They were the first to make cosmetics, all of which are alchemicals. In our modern word for chemistry, the etymology of that word goes back to the root word chem, K-H-E-M, meaning the blackness, which is a reference to the alluvial Nile soil. So Nile River flooding creates this very rich soil, alluvial soil around the Nile River, very, very dark in color. It's black. So the land of chem traces back to the name for that chem alluvial soil. However, the word chem is also derived from the word chem, which is directly connected to the Egyptian science of chemistry through the stages of alchemy, the first of which is known as the black stage, the negrado. So there's three stages of the alchemical process, the negrado, the albedo, and the rubedo, the black, white, and red, which is also directly connected to the three colors of stones that are utilized in the construction of the pyramids, all of which have specific functions in these structures, black basalt, white limestone, and red granite. Directly connected to the three stages of alchemy, and integrated using specific material properties into the function of the pyramid structures. So my work is called the land of chem, C-H-E-M. Chem is the etymological root word of alchemy, which became our modern word for chemistry. So the name of my channel and the name of my work is the land of chem. It's a play on words for the original name of Egypt, the land of chem, but it's C-H-M for the land of chemistry instead of K-H-E-M. So we're investigating Abu Seir. I'm looking at this collection bowl. Immediately in my head, chemistry. I knew that alchemy was born in ancient Egypt. This really resonated with me as being a more likely explanation for the function of the pyramids because you don't collect electricity as a liquid in a bowl. No. No. So I was like, okay, this is artifact number one that put me on the journey investigating industrial chemical scale production. And side note, I really appreciate actually being able to do a conversation because normally I go right into a presentation and I don't often have a chance to do an engaging conversation and tell these kinds of stories anymore. So I really appreciate that. It's going to be a fun time. And we may dive into some important material here in a little bit. We'll just see where it goes from here. Beautiful. So the next site we go to is the Red Pyramid in Dashur, which is where I started my reverse engineering of the Egyptian pyramids. I was actually investigating the Red Pyramid. So I didn't know that we were going to get a chance to go inside this thing. So we go inside the Red Pyramid. I'm looking at the tiered upper vault. There's chemical staining all over the walls and an intense smell of ammonia that emanates from the final chamber. The smell 100% comes from the final chamber and it gets less and less intense the further away you get from the final chamber. Do we know it is ammonia? Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. Fast forward, you know, several years into the future from then, I knew it was chemical staining on the walls when I looked at it originally. The conventional explanation is that it's from bats. Fast forward five years, we now have chemical analysis data that was taken of this staining on the walls of the Red Pyramid that conclusively proves it has absolutely nothing to do with bats. It's a combination of metal oxides that create this chemical staining on the walls of the chamber. So I'm looking around the structure. I'm like, what's all this staining from? And it's, it gets darker and darker the higher you go up into the chamber. So I was like, okay, maybe something is being compressed into the upper chamber here. And that's, what's creating this really dark nebulous staining in the upper portion of the chamber. We're exploring, we get to the final chamber. I'm like, dude, it smells like ammonia, pure chemical ammonia. And my wife and I shout out to my beautiful wife, Alexa, archaeoalchemy, who's always sitting over there patiently. We've been in tons of other structures that have bats in Egypt. We've been in Mastaba 17 that is filled with bats. We've been in the tomb of the birds that is filled with bats. We've been into the subterranean labyrinth system below the eastern temple. And we've been in the tomb of the birds that is filled with bats. We've been in the temple of the pyramid of Wenis. There's another underground labyrinth that's adjacent to the pyramid of Wenis and Saqqara filled with bats. The smell of bat cave is completely different. It smells like a rodent cage. So I'm having this crazy experience on this, the first two days of this adventure. We go back to the hotel and I remember driving. I'm like, maybe these things are industrial scale chemical manufacturing things. So I'm like marinating on this idea. And it's like, maybe they're making ammonia. I know ammonia is for fertilizer. I was like, well, that kind of makes sense that at least one of these things are made of ammonia. These pyramids is for agricultural applications. So we go back to the hotel and I had to go get my room key reactivated or something of that nature. So I go up to the front desk and I'm given in the room key and I hear behind me. So I'm born in the Northern United States, but I was living in Southeastern United States and I recognized a very distinct Southern accent behind me. So I turn around and there's this guy with his Egyptian tour guide or escort, and he was by himself. So I turn around and said, Hey man, where are you going? And he said, I'm going to the same town where you're from right down the street from where I live. And so I was like, all right, that's kind of a strange coincidence to just run into this guy five minutes down the road from where I live in the hotel, random occurrence. What did he say it like that? Like he knew where you were from. Oh, so I said, where are you from? He said, I'm from blah, blah, blah. Okay. I was like, okay. He's like, I live in this area. I'm like, okay. Whoa. And I'm looking at him in the and he has these big bulbous eyes and it, you know, like chameleon, like kind of like they operated independently where one was kind of looking over. And I was very much interested. I was intrigued by this guy. It was something very compelling about this guy. And I was like, this is weird. So this guy's from the same place. He's got these weird looking eyes. He's got this crazy vibe. And I was like, Hey man, what are you doing tonight? He's like, Oh, nothing. I'm just getting settled in the hotel. It's like, why don't you come to dinner? And we'll all sit down and we'll talk about it. And he's like, Oh, I'm just getting and have dinner and talk about our experience in Egypt and what we're doing here. So he's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. This guy comes down and we kept offering him food. Like we sit down and have this lavish meal, beautiful meal, all these drinks and fantastic food. I'm like, do you want, no, no, no. I don't want anything to eat. Don't want anything to drink. So didn't eat anything. Didn't drink anything with these crazy looking eyes. And then he starts probing, like not, not probing me from an alien sense, like asking me these questions. He's like, so what are you investigating in Egypt? And I was like, well, we're looking about function of the pyramids. And he's like, interesting. Why don't you tell me more about your theory? So I was like, okay, well, I was looking at electricity, but now I'm leading more toward chemicals. And he's interesting. He's like, what kind of chemicals do you think? And he kept on just asking these really methodical questions regarding this theory that I had just generated that day. So he was really just almost interrogating me. Yeah. In a way that probably helped you flesh out this theory. I was also very caught off guard by this because he, there was something that was about this individual. The coincidence, yeah, you may run into somebody from your hometown overseas. I get that. But there was just something super weird about this guy. And the questions he were asking was so poignant and almost one step ahead of where I was. So he was asking me kind of these leading questions that was, it was such a weird experience. So anyway, start talking about the serapium and the function of all these different things. And he was interjecting, you know, several possibilities. Why don't you consider this? Or why don't you consider that? And I was like, okay, that's super interesting. And I was like, well, why don't we keep in touch during our trip here in Egypt? And, you know, we exchanged numbers on WhatsApp. And I tried to message him and he said he was working for the, I was like, so what are you doing here? He's like, I work for the TSA. I'm stationed in France. Instead of going home on my leave to see my family, I decided to come to Egypt. Okay. And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, I'm only here for one day. You know, I'm here to see the pyramids and I'm going back. And instead of going to see my family, I decided to come to Egypt. And I was like, none of this is making sense. It's all super weird. So I just kind of registered that experience. And it's, it's stuck with me to this day where when I'm telling it now, I kind of get chill bumps on the back of my neck. How did you leave? Did you just, you just. So again, we, we kind of wrapped up, we finished our dinner. I was like, that was super interesting conversation. Shook his hand, got his number. I was like, Hey, I'll be in touch. You know, maybe we'll touch base when I get back to town and you know, et cetera, et cetera. I attempted to message him later in the future. And he just kind of like disappeared in thin air. You never, you never heard from him again. You ever got his name, try to look him up. I did. I did have his name. I tried to look him up. Nobody that existed under that name, no Facebook profile, no Instagram profile, nothing like that. What? He has googly eyes. And I remember there were several times where I looked at him directly in the eye and it was like, they were kind of moving independently. Where, you know, that, that happens. And some people have weird, weird eyes or whatever happens in men in black, the movie. I noticed that also. So it's just, it really stuck with me. Who do you think that dude was who was leading you down the path with the structured questions? Oh man, I don't, I don't know. It was. Cause that, cause that has to, that has to work into a working worldview. It feels like so, um, not foundational to the. Work. Cause it doesn't, obviously you've, you've accumulated so much substance and corroboration since then, but foundational to the inspiration. Like, it feels like this, like interesting, like, okay, you're getting teed off by this like weirdly knowledgeable, mystical dude. So I don't have a good explanation for that. Yeah. My work is certainly adjacent to the UFO phenomenon, uh, interdimensional. Sure. Possibly spiritual visibility. Yeah. That sort of thing. Um, one of the followers of my channel, shout out Vince. Uh, he said it was a Kachina or, you know, what the Kachina are now sort of these, um, maybe sort of angelic people that are kind of watchers or spiritual people that are spirit guides or whatever from the native American traditions. Um, he's like, that's a Kachina that came to make sure you were on the right path. So I don't, I don't have any good explanation for that. All I know it was one of the creepiest encounters to use the word encounter. Uh, creepiest encounters I've ever had in my life. I was kind of shaken to the core for the entire evening and following day after that. And I couldn't shake this very strange sensation that I had from that, from that meeting. Do you have, I've had other experiences with that where, you know, the, the googly eye phenomenon is something that I, I, I recognize now. Yeah. And so when I see individuals that have that physical feature, I always. It just kind of takes me back to that experience and I'm like, this is like, what did you saw another one? You know, do you have a theory as to who that guy was? I have no idea. I have no idea. The questions were very, um, they were disturbing in a sense because he already knew where my mind was going in, in advance of the conversation. And again, you, you run into people from your hometown and when you're traveling abroad, like, Oh, Hey, we're from the same place. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he was there by himself. Like people don't just, people do go to Egypt by themselves and, you know, these things happen, but I was, I was very much caught off guard. But even though I was disturbed by the sort of line of questioning and interrogation, I was super drawn in and there was something about this. I got to sit down with this guy and like, you know, pick his brain a little bit about what he's doing here. And, um, it was just a very, very strange encounter. That's extremely strange and interesting. Dude, this was epic today. I really, really enjoyed this. It's so nice to kind of take a break away from the presentation and just talk and have a conversation about these things. Um, I'm sure, um, there's going to be pushback of, Oh, you don't have any evidence to support this stuff. Go watch any of the other podcasts. No, you, you clearly have an abundance of evidence. I think it's, um, I don't know. I just hope you keep going. And, and, and I think, I think for a lot of people, it's not evidence it's epistemics and it's the way they think. And it's certain things can't be true. I think it's the way they think because they seem beyond belief to them. I would say that what you're describing is less beyond belief than Christopher Dunn and a lot of the other hypotheses. Thank you. Thank you. So, um, no, but, but, but, but much love and respect to all the predecessors that laid the foundation for me to be able to do this. I'm certainly, you know, I have the utmost respect for Dunn and, um, Robert Buval and Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson, and those are the godfathers of all of this. Yeah. And if they hadn't done what they had done. People like me would probably never have come to the conclusion that there's. Potential for more to be discovered in this. Yeah, no, this was amazing. And, uh, yeah, absolutely. And go check out land of chem. Jeffrey, appreciate your time, man. This was epic. Thank you so much. Um, so let me just give a quick shout out to, again, my beautiful wife, Alexa, her channel is archeo alchemy. We also have another travel adventure and culinary experience channel called let's go with Lex and G where we do food ratings and Japanese temples and all this other stuff. Cool. And to all you cat lovers out there, I take care of a family of Egyptian street cats. We have another channel. We have another channel called Egyptian trash cats. Um, go check that out. Please subscribe again. My channel is the land of chem dude. Thank you so much. Oh, thank you, man. You're prolific. Wild ride. That was awesome. Thanks, Jeffrey. All right. All right. Later. Cool.