Amy Coney Barrett Threatened, NYC Data Center Ban, OpenAI vs Apple| PBD Podcast #833

Did you ever think you would make it? I said I'm supposed to take sweet victory I know this life meant for me Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here You are a one of one? My son's right there I don't think I've ever said this before So let me get this straight If you choose to become the Supreme Court Justice How much risk do you have with that job? Huge So imagine you go in choosing to have one of the most difficult jobs You hate it, it's controversial, it's difficult Then when you get death threats You start siding with the other side And your voting record changes If that's a job you got Then don't be a Supreme Court Justice If you become a president Or if you become a vice president And you say I'm getting too many threats If you become a military guy and you go to war And you're saying hey man These enemies are trying to kill me That's the job, don't do the job Go take a different job Anyways, it's one of the top stories I got a lot of thoughts on that When Amy Coney Barrett numbers came out The fact that after she got the threats She talked about how incredibly devastating it is The types of threats she's getting That she has to go home with a What do you call it? With a bulletproof vest And explain to her sons that she's taken off And I get that But guess what? That's the job That's the job And we'll get into that story I got a lot of thoughts on that specific story Anyways, good to be with you guys IBM stock drops today 25% in a single day Apparently the worst state they've had In how many years, Tom? 50, 60 years They've never had a single day like this IBM And there's a tie with that story In H-1B visas That they're mainly starting to hire Their numbers, when I share it with you You're going to be like, wait a minute The numbers drop like that Yes, they had a certain expectation I'm hitting, I think, $16.1 billion They fell short by like $2 billion And the market's like, what happened here? This is a little weird We'll address that Amy Coney Baird, for sure Spain beat France Not going to lie to you I was hurt I didn't like it I was rooting for Mbappe I'll just say it I think Spain's the most boring team In the World Cup so far And every time I say that They're the Spurs of the 90s They're the Cleveland Cavaliers of the 18 Craig Elo Mark Price Brad Doherty Tim Duncan Derek, what was the guy's name? Parker Just a very boring, boring, boring team Spain is But they're freaking good They're very good Wow And Argentina beat England Had to call my friend, man Paul He was all ready for $20,000 tickets All this stuff Talking to I'm suggesting him A couple different sponsors To reach out to To go through this challenging time With England But there's a lot of story With Bellingham at the end Slapping one of the players Argentina holding the sign That they're not supposed to have A political message The scene where Bellingham Said something to Messi And then Messi's like Oh, really? Okay, no problem Look what I'm going to do We can't even play that clip Because the clip on X Was taken down Because anything with them Are taking it down But it's leading to Spain Argentina It's what it is And there's a picture of Messi Vinny just showed us this morning Of Lamin Lamal When he was a baby And he's like Almost giving him a bath You know So I don't know What's going to end up happening He's his daddy Yeah, at that time But we'll see And the interviews Messi's been doing The stuff he's been saying It's phenomenal Trump's got a speech He's giving tonight A lot of people Are speculating On what happened They're saying the speech Was leaked To Wall Street Journal Of course All those leaks Always happen accidentally Nobody would ever leak The story To get headline And marketing And stuff that comes to it Some of the things That they're going to be Talking about Is foreign You know Countries colluding In our elections No And some real You know Real decisions And maybe even An executive order tonight And we were hoping We can talk about it As well as the movie Odyssey But it's not out yet And so as much as We want to trash Odyssey Some people are saying It's a good movie I don't know I'm going to go watch it I'm going to go watch it Vinny told me It's like a 17 hour movie Here we go again One of these long Three hour movies That you go And you have to prepare Pea breaks By the way When they do three hour movies Are commercials like Two hours as well Like do they do One hour of commercials For three hour movies Yeah It's like a four hour It's a full day You're committing to The drive The food The parking You know Too much Anyways We'll see We'll see with that But Trump has given A speech tonight Corporate espionage Is taking place Between OpenAI and Apple And guess who Is defending Apple A guy who's a trillionaire Is defending Apple Not surprised Because of Sam Altman But apparently This is some really Ugly Ugly Nasty stuff That OpenAI is doing We have to 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story i want to get into is amy coney barrett amy coney barrett tells the world that she's been getting threats and the world sympathizes a lot of conservatives do it's not an easy job to be supreme court justice especially when you have to vote a certain way but this report comes out this tweet if you want to first show the numbers then we'll go to the clip and then i want you to see what other supreme court justice said when they were trying to scare the crap out of him and saying even if it kills me i'm not letting you guys do this on the face of a previous president joe biden in the video i want you to watch this let me read it to you amy coney barrett's record tells a troubling story okay if you can zoom in a little bit to to the right before dobbs she voted with conservative position in 81 percent of unanimous cases since then that number was dropped sharply into the 50 to 60 percent range a lot of people say why including on major cases involved involving birthright citizenship you know what birthright said it's stuff that liberals would even agree with so birthright citizenship and uh election procedures you know the whole voter id stuff that was going through as well and administrative power where she has sided with chief justice roberts and the liberals the dobbs leak triggered violent threats and protests aimed directly at supreme court justices if the threat of violence or intimidation can move a justice vote on fundamental issues we have a constitutional crisis on our hands and i agree with this tweet judicial independence is not optional it is the foundation of the rule of law when justice appears to bend under pressure public trust collapses and the entire system is at risk can i give a respect to this tweet of this person can you go to the name of the person so i can give him a shout out i just want to make sure the right roscoe uh roscoe smith uh is that the sixth i think it's roscoe smith the fourth can you go back to the tweet please so so as you go and you go through this this cannot be allowed to stand etc etc look at the left you look at the left is how the votes were 81 percent then it drops to 59 57 and 50 and then this video comes out where she's talking about the threats she got that one time she had to go home with a vest on not this one it's the other one where she does the fox interview if you don't have it i think if you go below that you should find it when you see this clip of her when she's out there uh if you just do you have it or you want to go uh no not this one there's one of her being interviewed on fox amy coney barrett where she's being interviewed on fox and she's explaining the threats that she got and uh by the way all you have to do is here let me just send it to you from here if you don't have it i just send it to if you want to pull it up okay she explains how it's scary for her she explains how she had to go there you go she explains how she had to go to her family and her son watch this this is tough folks i i'm i'm totally sympathizing with her and that she's gone through this watch this so i thought i would just share a little bit about how the threats have affected me and my family personally um they have required me to my children to think about and see things that children should not have to see or think about one example is when threats to my life were particularly intense a few years ago around the time of the dobbs leak my security detail sent me home with a bulletproof vest and i carried it into my house put it into my bedroom dropped it down on a table turned around and my 12 year old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom and he wanted to know what it was and why i had it and i didn't know how to respond because maybe i lack imagination but i didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to my children that i was going to die and that i had to wear one it's also been reported in the news that roughly six weeks ago i was the victim of a swatting incident at at that point my teenage son one of my teenage sons opened the door to go out with friends and saw in our street it was full of police cars who had responded to a false report of gunshots and raised voices in my home i was very very grateful that i had supreme court order to stop the police outside my home because they were able to stop and meet with and explain to the county police that it had been a false alarm and so the police did not actually attempt to enter you can pause it right there so by the way devastating this should not be happening nobody should have to go through this especially amy who is only in her early 50s you can tell she's very young and she's got seven kids her and her husband have seven kids together starting from 25 to 20 to 18 15 13 and 12 i believe they have seven kids if i'm not mistaken it's six or seven kids big family this shouldn't happen however don't take the job don't take the job because watch what 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account what i said about it i mean i'll just pull it up here on what i have is if this job comes with threats this job is risky this job has a lot of pressure this job isn't for everybody but if you're scared for your life then quit my suggestion amy coney barrett should resign and step out of the way you should and and by the way we shouldn't judge her for it it shouldn't be like she's a quitter she's no no if if you realize you're in this i had a guy one time he told me this and i'll come to you guys because i want to hear your thoughts and to me this is the most important story you know why this is the most important story what have we learned the last six years who has all the power in america supreme court absolutely there is no story bigger than this in my opinion if all of a sudden they scare the crap out of you go from 81 conservative to 50 step the hell out of the way yep one time a guy who was on my board he said to me says pat i can't do these board meetings anymore i said why not it's because i'm getting anxiety i said really he says i'm not even comfortable presenting in front of the board it makes me really nervous i said no problem let's have a meeting i said which which part of it and we had a cordial conversation one of the best employees i've ever had in my life and i said you know this is the best employee i've ever had in my life by the way phenomenal one of the best employees i've ever had in my life but we sat down we had a conversation we removed the responsibility somebody else and he crushed the responsibilities that were left with him. That's okay. It's okay if Amy Coney Barrett says this is too much pressure. Resign. But if you're going to vote in a different way because they're scaring you, you're impacting the people who this is going to affect for the next few decades. Few decades. Few decades. Yesterday, Rogan and Vance were speaking and one of the things that came up was that Rogan said it's almost as if Democrats want to be able to cheat because who has a hard time giving IDs out? Joe is saying this very common sense conversation with Vance and he says, you know, even during what he called it COVID, they wanted me to have a vaccine card, ID card. I think he's saying something like that. What's the big deal? These are the types of things that Amy Coney Barrett impacts. I'm sorry. I have a very hard time. Call me black and white. This job is not for everybody. Get a Josh Hawley in there. Get a Cruz in there. Who's the guy I like the most? Trey Gowdy. Get a Trey Gowdy in there. Get some of these guys in there. By the way, if Trey says I don't want to do it because I talked to Trey once, too much pressure. Don't do it. But get somebody in there that wants the job and knows the threats that comes with it. I'll pause. I've been going on a rant for a while. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, first, I got some facts for people. Threats against senators, congressmen, and Supreme Court. Apparently, the FBI investigates 20-some threats that are maybe credible threats a week. In other words, lunatics sends an email or they intercept something, but nothing comes of it. The person was just blown off steam, makes some comments. That seems pretty regular. Do you know how many actual assassination attempts against Supreme Court justices there have been? Three. The first happened in 1889, and it was Supreme Court Justice. even field. He was tracked and being stalked, and so he hired a security guard, and at a train station in California, he was attacked by the stalker, and the security guard, 1889, with a Colt.45, shot him dead. It was a bona fide assassination attempt. The next one would happen a hundred years later. Harry Blackmun. Who's Harry Blackmun? The author of Roe v. Wade. In 1985, a bullet was fired through a window of his house from an assailant outside that fled, but it was a bona fide assassination attempt. Apparently, the guy was trying to follow the shadow of him. You know, even if you have the curtains pulled, Pat, they can see your shadow walking. He was trying to make the hit, so it wasn't just a drive-by. It was a bona fide attempt, and he was the Roe v. Wade author. You know when the next one happened? 2022. It was Brent Kavanaugh. He traveled from California, had a Glock, pepper spray, map of Kavanaugh's house, overview of police detail, zip ties, so he was ready to do it. Apparently, he had a mental breakdown, and he called 911 on himself, Pat. So, thank goodness whatever happened there. Now, Dobbs' leak happened in early 2022, before the Kavanaugh. This guy was triggered by Dobbs and went to Kavanaugh's house. Amy Comey Barrett, when was she confirmed? October of 2020. Remember what went down with that? Is that Trump 45 got her done just two weeks before the election, and there was all the controversy for the Senate, but the Senate got her done 2020 for the election. Why do I bring this up? She knew she was coming into a really hot time, and a really intense time, and she knew she was coming into a really hot time, and a really intense time, and a really intense time, not only for America, but to be on the Supreme Court. And then to see what's happened with Kavanaugh, that was a bona fide threat. That could have gone very, very badly. And I agree with you. Look, if the situation is just so intense right now, and there is no shame in saying- Zero. I can't put my- Zero. And by the way, imagine her with all those children. How do I get security for every school, every date, every- Yeah. athletic event they go to, to protect all of my children and my family? And it may just be something that she says, I can't do it. But what's interesting, we're entering into a time now, thanks to Dobbs and other things, we've only had three of those full attempts on record, and one, the bodyguard, 1889, shot the guy. But we live in a different world now. Vinny. And by the way, she's the only female SCOTUS, correct? All the ones, Ketanji Brown and all the other ones, they're all left. They're all Democrats, correct? Oh, yeah. She's the only conservative female. So she's the only one, and it's sad, but I mean- There was Sandra Day O'Connor. And Tom, how many times, how- I've been on this podcast, Pat, for what, four years now? Is it just me? I'm not saying the other side, the Republican conservative side, isn't violent. There's crazy people everywhere. But when it comes to this type of stuff, it's as if it's only coming from one side. The Supreme Court exists for what? It's not as if. Keep on your thought, but I got to interrupt you and say, it's not as if. It is. Okay. Thank you, Tom. What's its job, Tom, Supreme Court? Uphold the Constitution, not to bend to intimidation, okay? If a violent threat could change the way that you're deciding rules, Pat, then the mob has the power of the law, and that cannot freaking happen. That's why I love that you said, with all due respect, you can't take the heat, you have to get out of the kitchen, and I feel so bad for her. You think we're happy that her 12-year-old has to sit there and go, hey, what's that? And she's like, oh, it's a bulletproof vest because they want to kill mommy, okay? But if fear's influencing your judgment, you have no choice. You have no business to be in the highest court in the country. You made a great point. I think it was like two weeks ago, Pat, where you're like, at the end of the day, with all the noise and all the fluff, when it comes down to these people, they're making the decisions, and when it comes to the serious ones, they're kind of leaning towards the right decision with the decision, Tom, or 6-3 or whatever the number is. But we cannot let these people win. And how many times, Tom, every time we're trying to do something to help the country, interfering with the ICE agents, murdering of Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, even on their own side. Remember Melissa Hortman? She tried to vote against giving illegals health care. They shot and killed her at her house. And who's doing it? You think a Republican did it? No, it's people of the same freaking party, Pat. So if that kind of behavior succeeds in changing Supreme Court decisions, then the rule of law is under attack. And we can't do it. And I'm sorry. And the Senate election is more important than ever. Put DeSantis. Get a DeSantis in there. This job is a risky job. Yeah. This is not for everybody. I fully understand Amy. I get it. If she was my wife, I would say, babe, hey, if you're going and kids are not safe and this is what's happening, hey, let's figure something out. So, Adam, your thoughts. Well, PBD, I think it's actually a very important discussion. We don't really talk about the Supreme Court all that often. Trump gets all the media attention, Iran, everything that's going on. But I think you bring up a very interesting conversation. So we may be respectfully being a little unfair to her because if you look at her voting record, she's actually pretty damn conservative. I mean, the way that it goes, Tom kind of broke it down. There's nine justices at the Supreme Court. You have the conservative wing and the liberal wing. The conservatives by far are Clarence Thomas. He's like 10 out of 10 conservative. And then you got Alito, who's like right behind him. Interestingly enough, the next conservative, if you look at their voting record, goes Gorsuch, then Amy Comey Barrett, then Kavanaugh, having a beer with him would be fun. Then. What they call like center right judge Justice Roberts and then center right. Then you have this huge wide gap between the three female liberal judges, Elena Kagan, Katonji Brown Jackson, sorry, Ms. Jackson, and Sotomayor, who's like the most liberal Obama inductee ever. But here's what I see. I see six conservatives, legit, some are center right, and three liberals. I understand this is a tough job. And, you know, PBD, you always say, what's the number one job of a mom, a mama bear? Safety and security of her kids. If she feels threatened for her kids, maybe she could consider stepping down. But as far as what she's done for the country, as far as her voting rights, abortion, affirmative action, Second Amendment, religious liberties, parents not transing their kids. She's been pretty damn conservative. So I'll tip my cap to her on that. But the Dobbs decision, though, was Roe v. Wade. I think I think Adam missed the first three minutes of this. The clip that we had where the main analysis is how it changed. So maybe you went on chat, GBTN said, who's the most conservative? After Dobbs, it changed. Guy, after Dobbs, it changed. Dobbs was what year? Did you see the dates? So she may have been very conservative pre. No. After Dobbs, June 2022. She got an October of 20. After that, she dropped. So, you know, if if that when you see numbers like that happen because of an event that takes place, I'm going to sit there and have serious conversations with you and see. And by the way, how often has a Supreme Court justice stepped down, stepped down and resigned? How many times has that happened in the past? Would they just not not because of anything controversial or family reasons for non-controversial reasons? How many times have Supreme Court justice resigned for non-controversial reasons? Yeah, normally it's just age. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's happened or not, but guess what? This may be a good time for us to consider this. OK, there's. been 116 different people that have served the supreme court 107 are no longer serving 109 which might nine so if you mean true resignations not retirement zoom in a little bit john jay well that's a long time ago 1795 yeah oliver ellsworth ellsworth tom's great great uncle surprise chief tom your great grandfather evan hughes 1916 to run for president abe fortis 1969 amid ethics controversy i'm not looking for that so the short answer is most left through retirement genuine resignations are uncommon well let this be the first one let this be the first one or get hardcore security and go back to the way you truly vote not letting the other people scare the crap out of you where you know when it comes on to birthright citizenship it's that complicated of an issue for you to vote against for that that's that's not you know or you know voter id or other things anyway so to me the biggest concern with the story is her way of voting changed after dobbs because the threats that she got and that that cannot happen you can't have something like that happen adam i hear you loud and clear yes i did hear the first three minutes sir i'm just asking a simple question you know they say like correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation did it actually change after that or did the cases change i just showed you them because what's that i just showed you the numbers right there no meaning did the cases change the point which is like because look here's what i know and i'm this is not the hill i'm going to die and i promise you this her mentor is who anton scalia very conservative guy what they basically say about this lady this conservative justice is that she's reliably reliably conservative but she's unpredictable they actually want that in a in a justice where they're not just voting across i don't have a problem with unpredictability is it fair to say that the dobbs decision was the most controversial decision we had the last 20 years the last 50 years is it fair to say so so how many people were furious over the dobbs decision a lot of people well guess what scared the crap maybe it scared the crap out of her you know and then you're laying in bed at night with your husband saying babe i don't know if this is that worth it you know maybe let's pump the brakes a little bit maybe let's it's not worth to have the risk for the kids you don't think those types of conversations happen at that when you're laying next to your wife and your husband like hey let's change it you don't think they're doing it of course that conversation took place 100 of course it did do you think and they're at home talking about kavanaugh how was work today yeah brett kavanaugh a guy was at his house he was armed he had everything he had don't take the job honey it sucks oh my god you know the president got there was assassination temp on him he's the freaking president or all the time he's the president he's the president he's the president oh my god you know such and such they try to foul him hey did you see the detroit pistons try to hurt michael jordan yes don't come through the middle oh my god that's that's just not yeah it kind of what happens when you get that kind of a so yeah to me i'm just i'm i i think i think it's something that she ought to consider and and uh move on and have her life where i'm at with this okay let's go to next story senate is vital in november next story tonight trump speech a lot of people are saying what's the guy going to be talking about you know what's he going to be saying all of a sudden he's giving a speech on thursday yesterday he puts a tweet out about iran released a girl that was a hostage is over here now and he says hey this was a good move this was under biden but now is this and then they bombed him there's attacks all this stuff that's going on so what is the speech going to be about well apparently the speech is yeah right there iran has allowed an american citizen who was wrongfully detained in december of 2024 for the president of sleepy joe biden to leave the country she is now safely outside of iran and is in good condition the united states of america appreciates this gesture of good will and she's going to be from iran okay so where's that going with let me let me read this to you so we kind of have an idea so trump is to address iran why do you guys see my glasses and here here we go trump to address iran election integrity in prime time speech tonight this is an axios story president trump prime time speech thursday night from the white house is slated to include election integrity and up to two weeks of election integrity and up to two weeks of election integrity and up to two weeks on iran whether whatever else he seems important to my senior advisor tell axios it will be a pot purry the dough ever available to reporters trump hasn't given many prime time direct to camera speeches from the white house he wants to do more of them the advisor said trump announced on truth social on monday that he plans to give a speech to the nation on thursday at 9 p.m eastern standard time the specifics beyond that we're in the white house and the expect topics are less certain but two issues are on top of mind iran election integrity tom what do you know about the speech tonight so this wasn't leaked the white house wants to make sure that people know that those are going to be the two core things and they're trying to get out in front of all the the armchair quarterbacking which i think is smart i think it's smart for the president to let a reliable news outlet you know know that the general outline of what he's going because you want you know um americans to tune in what's he going to talk i'm talking about iran i'm talking about election integrity and i think what's what's going to happen is that we're going to hear from the president and what's really coming up here is also is to talk if he's going to talk about election integrity he's got to talk about what everybody has been talking about the last week even people that are moderate and not necessarily a full conservative have been on cnbc talking about now we know this was an absolute fraud what do you network say about it chamath was on saying that on cnbc calling the networks up so i think this is this is good news to hear from the president and i think this is a good news to hear from the president and i think this is a good news to hear from the president and i think this is a good news to hear it makes me want to tune in and hear what my president has to say about election integrity about november how are we going to keep november um lined up and then also we hear about georgia that maybe ossoff and warnock maybe they were maybe they weren't and maybe there's some oddities i'm going to call them oddities so we don't get a letter um that we're in the electoral system there and maybe they would have won maybe they wouldn't who knows but georgia a little iffy i love the fact he's talking about somewhere in this is not only talk about iran and not only talk about the election but also talk about affordability and by the way i want to see that interesting you're saying it because ossoff says trump has georgia election obsession he said trump fears losing the midterms and will retreat reheat debunked election conspiracy theories to deny his 2020 defeat and attack voting rights he argued that renewed fraud claims would force collins to embrace theories that have performed poorly in general election trump's obsession with georgia election revealed his fury that black voters were instrumental to his defeat ossoff said while seeking support for voter protection and an fbi investigation in fulton county is ongoing a judge recently rejected a justice department subpoena seeking extensive personal information about thousands of fulton county election workers and volunteers calling it a staggering overreach a judge said the statute of limitations has expired and a request covered an unjustifiably brought period adam your thoughts on this so the speech is going to be tonight correct 9 p.m okay so we don't know exactly what he's gonna say but you know the one thing that i find interesting we talk about iran we talk about united states you know who we don't often talk about the most are iran's neighbors so we often hear about you know israel u.s versus iran here's what i think trump is doing i think he's basically saying hey guys oman uae bahrain kuwait saudi lebanon syria all these countries it says you got to pick a side at this point guys because you know they say clean up your name neighborhood clean up your house before you start telling other people what to do this neighborhood has basically been abducted by iran's radical philosophy and what trump has done is made all these middle eastern arab countries pick a side so what have we seen conclusively we've seen countries like the uae aligned fully with america and almost israel they signed the abraham accords bahrain jordan kuwait saudi even my opinion is some of these countries are going to recognize israel is actually not the bad guy iran is the bad guy we should really really consider signing the abraham accords and let's do everything in our power to basically snuff out iran the easy way or the hard way but the end of the day iran's got to go the irgc's got to go and the middle eastern country's got to step up in order to do it bennie listen i i if my opinion pat there's there's no reason that he because they've reported the cia is going to be there radcliffe is going to be there fbi odni dhs this isn't going to be some rinky-dink you know speech about me and tom talked about this yesterday pat i think it's going to be serious and you know it's serious when people like aoc and the left don't want it to come out this they have an ethical obligation the networks not to air his speech so they know what's coming okay and if i had to guess and this is my opinion pat the allegations are going to be about china and their involvement tom you mentioned warnock and also pan i've been saying this for years i know i've been saying it on this podcast i believe my opinion that china is our enemy and we're going to have to do something about it and we're going to have to do something about it and we're going to have to do something about it and we're going to have to do something they're not our adversary they're our enemy and i think the deep state with them you want to talk about collusion i think covid wasn't by accident it was released on purpose pat because of the attitude that trump had towards china with the trade with the tariffs and all of a sudden in an election year tommy a freaking virus comes out of a lab that fauci who got a freaking blanket 10-year pardon comes out and nobody gets in trouble for it i think that's what's going to happen pat and i think it's going to be tied to somewhat with the save act because let's just be honest the law is going to be tied to the save act and i think it's going to be tied to the save and if they're not going to win that's why the save act is not getting passed they don't want to have any ids for any voters pat and guess what if they don't like you they will threaten you they will try to assassinate you Look at Trump and look at even our Supreme Court justices. We just had that conversation. They will threaten you and try to scare you into voting and helping them out. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Can I ask you a question, Pat? Yeah, go for it. I'm sorry, were you about to say something? I was just going to show what AOC said here. If you want to play this clip, AOC on Trump and then Adam, I'll come to you. Go for it. Watch this, folks. Speech, speech. You know, he's basically doing a made-for-TV broadcast about the election. FanDuel is now available everywhere in the U.S. So you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are, including these places. Make this your most rewarding season ever with FanDuel. Age and location restrictions apply. Product availability varies by market. See FanDuel.com for eligibility. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. This episode is brought to you by Palmolive. Family time isn't just fun. It's the big moments. It's weeknight dinners. Sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once. 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In fact, did you hear how, by the way, did you guys notice that I'm not talking? You have really fast. The bias in the question. But that's Midas Touch, though. Yes, Midas Touch. But it's, it's like they're leading her like all the conspiracy and everything. She's obviously, they're giving her a softball that she couldn't even hit. She's bumbling as, as, as, even as an answer. Adam. Yeah, I agree with Vinny on that. I want AOC to talk publicly way more often. I don't hear enough from her because the more that she talks, she just exposes herself. I want the DSA out there advocating, trying to rip up the Constitution. She'll be your candidate. So people with common sense will say. She will be the candidate. Oh, these people, these are. Let's see. I hope she is. I swear that. But, PBD, I could be wrong on this. Why is Trump continuing to go back to the Georgia election fraud situation? There may be something there. I'm not saying there's not. But do you think that's a winning message while they're going into midterms? Do you think that's what the average voter cares about at this point? Well, you know, they say he's playing 3D chess. What do you think Trump is doing on this? Well, I mean, you have to realize he got one of the big things that they wanted to pass that didn't pass, and it was voter ID. And yesterday, J.D. Vance is on Rogan, and one of the main topics is what? Voter ID. Yes. And so why are they talking about voter ID? Why is that coming? Here's a clip if you want to play it. Watch this. And I think they cheat. And I think they've been doing it forever. And I don't think there's any other reason why you would have no voter ID. And they try to say, oh, it's racist to have voter ID. Like, what are you talking about? Do you think other races are incapable of going to the DMV? That's insane. Yeah, it's. That's racist. That's actually super racist. That's really racist. The implication of their argument is literally like blacks and Hispanics cannot go to the DMV to get an ID. By the way, if you look at the polling, black Americans are as pro-voter ID. Even though most black Americans vote Democrat, they're still pro-voter ID as much as white Americans. They have integrity. Most Americans. So you're asking the question, why is he going back to Georgia? So go to the seven states that are going to matter, right? Go to what happened with Ossoff being somebody that potentially. could be a candidate on the left. You keep hearing about this guy named Ossoff who's a rising star. That name is coming up all the flipping time. This guy's a sequencing guy. He's not doing this for the hell of it. Voter ID didn't go through. Midterms are around the corner. And if they have something, well, then show it. Show it if they have something. If they have something, show it. But if they keep going to it without being able to show anything, it's going to be. It's going to backfire on them. So maybe they have something today because one of the things they're talking about is an executive decision that he may be making tonight that he's announcing. And no one really fully knows what that's going to be about. And Pat, and Adam, why it's so important. Republican Georgia, you know why it's so significant? In 2020, the margin was 12,000 votes. Like, that's not something small. And if you look back, they were covering up the voting thing. They didn't want people to look at the voters, all the late night drops. And by the way, going back to COVID, COVID was just a mail-in ballot freaking scam. It's like, dude, it's very, very important. And again, I saw the parts of the podcast with Joe. He's right. They're cheating, bro. If you don't want people to see you voting, I mean, counting the votes, you're hiding something. You're cheating. If you don't want to check people's ID and you had an open border for four years, give me another excuse. Give me something that's not cheating. Like, bring in 8 million people and then how. It's illegal to ask for their IDs. It's simple. For me, voter ID is a top three issue. I agree with you on that. Voter ID is a top three issue. So for him, he has to keep that in there lingering for that to eventually click. If I asked you eight years ago, do you think Dobbs is ever going to pass and change? I'm willing to bet 80% would say, hell no. Guess what? He pulled that off. Not easy. Amy Coney Barrett was a part of that. And now he has to create a little bit more pressure for people to say, you know, I think something could happen with that. By the way, based on Cal. She here's what Cal she has on what he's going to be talking about tonight. It's seven hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. If you haven't placed a position, you may want to go on Cal. She and take a look at this and create an account. But what is at the top at the top? It's what? What's the blue elections? Ninety seven percent chance he's going to talk about election. Save America. Makes sense to me. Democrats, Chinese, China, Biden deal, settle nuclear oil, communist communism, Venezuela hottest. Oh, these are words that he's going to be. Using the hat is so funny with the hottest or you just not on their alien block. I'm surprised huge didn't make it. I'm surprised you didn't make it. Adam, did you have a follow up or. No, I just. Number one, you answered my question because I think I said what you're saying is it's a means to an end. It's really not about the Georgia thing. No, it's not. It's the Georgia opens the window to talking about the same. I think so. I think so. Yeah, it's a good question you're asking. And I think I would do that if I'm in a position like that. I'm going to be like, guys, no, no, this story can't go away. No, no. Keep it in there. Keep it in there. Keep keep the mouthpieces debating this and arguing this. Let's keep that story going. That's what I think. Let's go to the next one. Next one I'm going to get into is open AI allegedly stole from Apple and they're calling this industrial espionage. That was the word that Tom was using. It's like, Pat, this is this is industrials espionage. And so it's a very big story. Let me let me. I'll go through the addendum first and I'll go to the other one. I think page 24. Is that the one time? What page do you have it on? On this? This is a massive, massive story. Main 10 is where it starts for you. It's main 10. See, I don't have it on my main 10. Can I get your notes? Mine doesn't say main 10. So I went to main 10 and I don't have it. Which one do you have as main 10? OK, let me read this to you. Apple sues open AI, alleging trade secret theft, says scheme was at every level. CNBC story, Apple on Friday sued OpenAI in federal court in Norton, California. alleging trade secret theft saying that the artificial intelligence lab took the iphone's marker intellectual property in order to develop its own consumer hardware this much is clear however at every level from members of its technical staff to its chief trade secrets and confidential information the company said in a legal filing it's a shocking reversal for the two companies which entered into a high profile partnership in 2024 when chad gbt was integrated into the iphone's operating system open aico sam altman visited apple's headquarters for the announcement but relations between the two companies have chilled since open ai announced plans to enter the hardware industry last year when it bought former apple designer john ive startup called io product for 6.4 billion dollars apple's updated version of its syria system which is coming out this fall is based on google's gemini models instead of chad gbt most of apple's allegations involve former employees who have interviewed who with or joined open a apple alleges that open ai's chief hardware officer tank tan who is a former apple vice president has directed apple employees interviewing at open ai to share apple secrets as part of the interviewing process what he has directed job candidates still working at apple to bring actual parts from apple to their interviews for show and tell sessions in which he and his team at open ai can elicit still more apple confidential information apple said in the filing that is insane tom your thoughts on the story so this is this is going to get really really big and the question is going to be who's got the biggest lobbyist or the biggest um proxy um balls with the department of justice and the department of and the federal trade commission i'll tell you why so on one hand they're saying oh no no no in an interview like i'm interviewing you pat hey pat um you know you worked at apple tell me about some of the projects you worked on uh did you really work on it were you involved are you some right those are fine questions on yes right on your resume here it says you directed the project did you direct it or were you just involved i was i directed the project these are standard interviews right you're sorting it out because you know vinnie some people say they did more than they did of course well the line gets crossed is uh do you have any schematics or anything and the allegations are people were encouraged to come to the meeting with printouts or other schematics or things to talk about what they did and then all of a sudden open ai allegedly had suddenly you're in an interview with 10 people supposedly so if that's what happened that's bad what's even worse is there are allegations of documentation that they said hey uh vinnie pat you know when you leave apple the following three things are going to happen on your laptop with the security team if you do this this and this you can evade the security detection if you want to you know bring any of that with you here's what's dangerous about this what kind of salaries have we been hearing about top hires in silicon valley we've been talking about ridiculous ridiculous white in an interview the other day said he's he sits on a board of meta he says mark zuckerberg's the biggest badass i met in my life dana said in an interview yeah he paid four engineers a 65 million dollar a year salary what did you hear what i just said four okay can you find this clip meta says four engineers a 65 million dollar a year four employees that that's the one right there play that clip can you make watches folks no no sound i just got back from the meta board meeting zuckerberg who was a brilliant gangster this guy is a gangster these people who who try to talk about him and everything else i'm so blown away and impressed by this guy he's an animal and uh putting all the chips in on ai we just hired like 10 kids that are 80 and they're like oh my god i'm so impressed by this guy he's 22 to 28 the average salary is like 65 million dollars and they don't have to hear a lot of negativity about ai there's way more positives about ai 22 to 28 years old average salary 65 million dollars so when when they're trying to hire you right now in silicon valley so this is what tom's talking about so basically the allegation that's even worse it's bad enough to say you're not a good guy you're not a good guy you're not a good guy you know tell me what you did at apple interview question hey bring a couple things with you and show them to him and all of a sudden you have a panel interview that's bad that's illegal you're putting the applicant in bad situation and if that's the way it happened that sort of thing would be illegal i'm not the judge and jury on this but then there have been documents and emails found where they told them exactly how to evade apple security when you leave your job and come over here and you're talking about we don't know what the salaries are but what dana white was just talking about is just how big the war is for talent it's a real war and so this thing this industrial espionage this is going to be huge um the last time we've seen things this huge you know we had a giant one that happened in formula one where ferrari guys mclaren guys stole secrets from ferrari guys they told the ferrari guys to go have them printed out at kinko's when there was a kinko's and then the mclaren guys went in there and faked the id and picked them up so it was just it's crazy but industrial has been going on for a while but this is huge what's also big is a number of people that are lining up against sam altman including elon musk you have the clip of what he said about elon musk elon is not a fan of sam at all he calls him scam altman yeah he is not always matching there yeah he's not adam your thoughts on this yeah you guys uh you're absolutely right with the elon thing you know when did uh chat gbt open eye came out i think november of 2022 does that make sense since then i feel like everything with sam altman has been drama and beef you bring up the elon mustang he calls him what scam altman it's interesting do you remember i think tommy remember this he was ceo he was fired then rehired there was also like there was almost like a revolt within the company yeah he meaning sam that's right carlson tucker carlson interviewed him and basically kind of was like did you murder one of your employees he's like what are you what are you insinuating right here this bellagio guy if you remember that yeah of course it was a suicide it was a delivery weird situation i'm making zero accusations i'm saying that's what tucker did but now it's not even apple that's suing him apparently there's all these copyright infringements publishers artists musicians authors everything they're in there's privacy uh concerns sam altman he's got some explaining to do as they say by the way can you give me just the latest thing and it's around mainly one guy can you pull up tang tang a great name tang tang it's almost related to fang fang no no the first one yeah you go so who is tank tank so let me kind of give you an idea can you go to images on who this guy is go to images tank tank spent 24 years at apple no you the second one is not tank not the second one is tank the second one is missing a g there you go take the g out there you go so that guy right there go go to all and go to his wikipedia spent 24 years at apple this is the main guy the lawsuit just everybody knows he joined apple in the early 2000s became one of the company's top hardware executives was widely regarded as part of generational leaders who helped shape the iphone after steve job this is a heavyweight damn this guy's a heavyweight he helped oversee iphone and apple watch hardware responsibilities included engineering and product design he was one of apple's highest ranking hardware leaders they have a score like you know how the military there's sergeant major general yeah little general brigadier generals are one star major generals are two star lieutenant lieutenant gen three star and then general is a four star right so this guy's one of the heavyweights there then he left apple in 24 and he joins johnny ives new hardware company which open ai you heard just bought for 6.4 billion dollars open ai requires it and so why is he important open ai wants to build ai device that could someday compete with the iphone and so apple is suing because they're saying you're taking this away so this guy is the main figurehead of um in this discussion uh so it's interesting it's kind of like what happened with when jake paul i believe recruited dana white's former cfo that went to him i don't know if you remember that or not jake paul recruited him armenian guy oh yeah he recruited the armenian guy good looking guy he got that red jacket on and he's got a it's kind of like a power player these types of things happen right there nakisha uh bidarian who left there he was a former ufc cfo from 11 to 2016 and helped orchestrate the historic four billion dollar sell to endeavor so he then goes and goes jones jake paul when this kind of stuff happens it happens it happened to us it happens to everybody it's just it's gonna stuff like this it's a real real war that is taking place the problem is the following tom here's the question i got for you what major investor influencer that people respect is siding with sam altman who who is the person that's defending kim i'm not seeing it i mean cnbc microsoft because they own it but outside of that i'm saying what other i mean microsoft is involved with open ai if i'm not mistaken i'm talking about what major mainstream critic is sitting out there saying altman's a good guy they're doing the right thing who's who's on his side i'm i'm i haven't seen one i'm not seeing it can't go like that for too long you you you you you know it's kind of like you know what open eyes reminding me of open as kind of like what israel is going through oh wow open eyes losing the propaganda war and guess what people don't like you they're not liking what you're doing and you can sit there and do whatever you want and act like you're all high and mighty and keep talking trash to ilana people like ilan yeah and people don't like you so then the question becomes what no major tech ceo or companies has loudly backed altman open ai in his specific disputes that's not good nope that's not good you have to be good at building relationships behind closed doors for people to defend you that's horrible so that means it's kind of like i i work at a place and let's just say something happens i leave no one at the previous company is willing to vouch for me they don't like me that's not a good thing for you to do no how come and on the only people do are the people that are no longer at the company you have to have people that vouch for you for people to say when i left the previous company and i started php there were a lot of people that were still friends with me i mean i i thought hey you don't have to worry about me taking clients me doing this me i never took a single person i left i'm like hey i'm just taking what i got here you guys keep the 7 000 clients we want to build our business still you met jeff the other day came to the house he was part of the company over there he was an enemy of mine a lot of so to me i think altman has to altman has what what some of these guys have which is they're not good with people they're so brilliant that they indirectly don't even know it they look down at people altman needs to go read how to win friends and influence people 50 times altman needs to go learn how to be better with people not robots you can't befriend robots they're your slaves yeah you have to befriend people and he's not good at that so sam if you're watching this maybe go watch this one and there's another book that you may want to read as well can you go to power of ethical management i think the power of ethical management is a good book recommendation for sam altman as well it's an oldie but a goodie it's 96 pages i think maybe it's like 100 pages uh yeah i'm wondering can you go all the way to the bottom of how many pages it is so you can finish it fairly in like a 30 minute sit down what's the number of pages 144 pages i was off by 50 pages small book good book but the power of ethical and management the final thing here is like ai is getting a lot of pressure from the government and these guys are not dumb and they move faster than the government dean ball um started july 6th of this month with with um open ai you know who he was from where he was a white house ai advisor and had a career in public policy so now they have a washington guy on there as the head of strategic future at open ai and meta hired dina powell mccormick which was trump and george w bush advisor on economic policy and brought him in january as president and vice chairman of meta super intelligence so they are also going out and getting soldiers from washington to help them in the war when the department of federal trade commission open ai and meta those are two key hires just this july let me tell you though tom there's a big difference who did you just hear right now going out there and talking about how amazing of a person he is what clip did i just play of a guy that's loved and respected that just edified mark zuckerberg in a minute in a white sam altman has to go find three dana whites and put him on his board asap he has to do that a sap a sap and pay big money for those people to be sitting on your board and people with high q scores he has to get some people like that and desperately give them stocks options shares whatever it is to have a big upside he's got to go find three people like that can you go a little bit lower of dana go a little bit lower of dana and you see the pictures that it shows on the bottom right keep going keep going lower keep going lower keep going lower keep going over okay click on joe rogan real quick click on rogan real quick just click on rogan real quick uh i'm sorry go back and click on see more right there see more see more right there click on that uh get somebody keep going left keep going left keep going left keep going left yeah you got to get somebody that's you got to get like a get mr beast and give him a billion dollars yeah get mr beast and give him a billion dollars in shares to sit on the board i'm being serious by the way i'm actually not you know go get a cool fact look what sports you know who's one of the people that's brought a lot of eyeballs to the entire world cup you know who i show speed yeah have you seen how he's crying with renaldo hey please let me know i need you to beat messy and i boom he posted a clip yesterday i show speed posted a clip yesterday at the argentina game do you know how many views this clip got let me tell you vinny you're not going to believe how many clips this thing got on youtube on on instagram okay i show speed posts a video i show speed posts a video begging lemme lemal to be messy and this is 17 hours ago okay do you know how many views it got i just want you to see it i just want you to see it i just want you to see it tell the people how many views it got 5.9 oh 118 million views in how many in how many minutes in how many hours can you tell me in how many hours 17 hours so tell me who can get that kind of views first one right there watch this that that thing got 117 18 million views in 17 hours okay so pause it right there i think i think open ai needs to offer mr beast a five-year one billion dollar comp to just sit on the board and just sit there and just sit there and just sit there and get two other guys like that because mr beast has got a good following he's got to get some people like that he's got to get some people like a dana white some major major 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were being a little hard on this guy for being an actual genius nerd when they're all like that that was your point you you paused and to make that point adam this guy said let me ask you a question let me ask you a question is jeff bezos a nerd yeah and it took him 30 years to actually try to become cool oh no you don't understand this guy is hated by all the nerds right now all of them including tim cook he's hated by bezos by cook maybe he's not beating them though he's not he's lost market shirt to anthropic more than you would know if you go look at what's going on with anthropic right now he is taking his lunch they used to be at 80 90 of the llm business they're not anymore people don't like this guy you can't move up without being liked and having some people skills no he he is you know whose vibe he's given me uh he's given me vibes of sbf when he was coming up and he thought his shit didn't stink that's the vibes he's given me not not the not the criminal stuff i'm not i'm from that. Just a vibe of, let me tell you who I am. I don't know. I think he's got to make some adjustments. That's my thought. Can I make a final point for you that's on this? Yep. So, I Show Speed, 110 million views in 24 hours. Yep. You know what the record is for Taylor Swift downloads in the first 24 hours of any song? Tell me, Tom. 30 million for Ophelia. Let's put that in perspective. To your point, this guy should be big money somewhere. Yeah, yeah. No, and to me, to me, it's just, and the only reason I showed I Show Speed is not complimenting Kim. It's complimenting SportsCenter, ESPN, FIFA, that they're using this guy to bring eyeballs to it. It's a smart move. Open AI needs to go get some guys like Dana White. That was a point I was making. So, okay, let's get to the next one. Next business story. Very weird one, guys. IBM. We've heard about IBM for how many decades? Many, many years. Back in the days, IBM was Facebook. Back in the days, IBM was Google. IBM was Microsoft. IBM was what all these companies we talk about today, the first guy was IBM, right? Yes, yesterday. IBM's numbers. You ready? Drops 25% in a single day. Ouch. Okay, 25% in a single day. Let me read these numbers to you, and then, Tom, I'm going to come to you, and Vinny, please get your reports ready. I'm so ready. You have no idea. So, IBM ended trading Tuesday down more than 25%. It's worst single day drop since, you ready? 1968. Me and Vinny weren't even born yet. Okay? After the company pre-announced earnings that fell below Wall Street expectations, Blue, Big Blue attributed the results to customers shifting spending away from software and mainframe product and toward AI servers, memory, analytics. Analysts had expected IBM to report adjusted earnings per share EPS of $3.02 on revenue of $17.86 billion, but the company came up short posting adjusted EPS of $2.2.93 on revenue of $17.2 billion. In a statement, IBM CEO Arvind Krishna said the company was prepared for a low single-digit decline in its Z17 mainframe business for the quarter, but the results were far from worse than projected and are at least partially related to the global memory shortage. In the last few weeks of June, we saw clients shift their quarterly capital expenditure towards server storage and memory purchase to secure supply constrained infrastructure ahead of a set of expected price increases, he said. This dynamic impact, client buying patterns, while we anticipate some supply chain-related impact in our expectations, we did not anticipate the magnitude of the CAPEX reprioritization, he added. IDC's Ashia Nadkari, who leads the firm's enterprise infrastructure global research group, wrote in a note that Wall Street's reaction to Krishna's warning was likely stronger than warranted. Well, first of all, you know what? Arvind Krishna just didn't do a good earnings report. He didn't do a good job of putting it together. Now, they'll tell you, oh, no, no, no, no. We wrote the release. We're careful with the comments, and he'd go out there. But all these comments is what makes stock go up and down on confidence and future guidance. It's confidence and future guidance. So, Vinny, I'll be head of General Motors. You be an investor. Okay. And you tell me if you're going to tell everybody to sell my shares or buy my shares. And I'm going to put it in and take all of this technical knowledge. I'm going to put it in terms you understand. Yeah, we here at General Motors, we find that people aren't buying Corvettes anymore, and we're having a little trouble at the factory. We can't get engines. And we don't make EVs, and they seem popular. But everything's okay. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. Exactly. So, I'm going to take off the techno babble, and that's what IBM said. We have a product that's going away, mainframes. It's starting to shift. Memory chips are in shortage. We can't get them. And there's things we don't make. We've got to get to servers in the sky, AI servers. So, that's what happened. But there's something else on the backdrop that's been frustrating. What are the core that makes a company great? It's people. It's people. We're discovering that just. We've been sitting here in Rhode Island for a week and a half, and we're. Pat and I have had these conversations about people. We need great people doing great things, and we see things that are going on. And we see the danger of, you know, Sam, Altman not having a guy that everybody's rallying around your leader from the outside. IBM has been going through a change. Its own people are referring to it as Indian business machines rather than international business machines. Do you know what the wild shift is? So, IBM USA, IBM India. Here's a quiz for you. One of them has 40,000 employees. One of them has 135,000 employees. Which is which? I think the Indian one has 140. I think it's the other way around. The other way around. India has 135,000 employees. IBM USA only has 40,000 employees. It's been shifting. It's been shifting on H-1Bs. India, how many job openings? U.S. and India. Which number is which? For IBM. For IBM. 376 job openings and 2,840 job openings this morning, I checked. In India. Which one's India? Which one's USA? 9X. 9X more is India. Correct. India, 2,840 job openings for IBM in India. 376 available in the USA. People are furious. And there's been a steady flow of people that have been writing on Reddit, not screaming at their employer. You scream at your previous employer on Facebook or X or something. You can expect to get a letter or get sued. Because especially if you disparage them, you did something really bad. That's dumb. Well, guess what? There are ex-IBM employees that are on Reddit saying very gently saying, listen guys, I just trained two people in India and then I was laid off a year later and they gave me six months salary. But I basically trained people that were going to replace me. And we're hearing about it all across IBM. So it's not just IBM here. IBM also right now has a loyalty and an overall morale problem. And they'll probably see this podcast, Pat, and publish a bunch of stuff out there. But the number of articles and a number of things on Reddit is overwhelming. There's more to it than just this earnings report. IBM has got some issues. Inside. And a lot of people are saying, maybe I don't want to be here. And there's only 40,000. Let me ask this question. My dad worked for IBM in 1968. Here's a question for you. They lost $72 billion a market cap in two days. That's a lot. $72 billion a market cap IBM lost. And can you pull up their stock? That's a lot of money. Here's my question for you. When you read, I've been just in reading mode while we're out here. What is there? Is that what one day go to five days? Go to five days. That's one day. Go to five days. Look at that. I should start buying. Look at that. Can you spot when the CEO spoke? Can you do me a favor? Go to one year. Can you go to one year? Damn. Okay. So go to five years. So it's still higher than what it was five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. They rode the AI wave. Yeah. But now. Yeah. So then Tom, here's my question for you with IBM. What is their flagship product? What is the product they have that beats everybody else in the marketplace? It used to be the mainframe computer and high end consulting to go with the use of the mainframe computer because they're not used to. I want to know today. What is their flagship product that they're the market leader ahead of everybody? I don't even know. Do they even have one? No, they for sure do. It's not. You're not going to be a $200 billion company without having that. So what is that product Tom? Where do they win? I thought it doesn't have a single consumer style hero product. Um, IBM current story. Um, IBM Z mainframes, Red Hat, OpenShift and Watson X. I want to know their number one flagship product that brings a big chunk of the revenue. Uh, okay. So I just typed in right now. What are IBM's biggest customers? Their biggest customer is JP Morgan Chase. One of IBM's biggest financial customers uses IBM mainframes, cloud AI security and consulting their annual money that they spend just JP Morgan Chase with IBM is somewhere around a billion dollars. Okay? Bank of America is number two. Uh, they use the IBM mainframe software consulting customers. Few hundred million dollars annually. Citigroup, few hundred million dollars. Verizon, few hundred million dollars. AT&T, few hundred million dollars. And then you got U.S. federal government uses defense civilian agencies, cloud consulting, cybersecurity, billion over multiple contracts. Deutsche Bank, HSBC, Volkswagen, all of these guys have multi million dollar contract. Which product brings the biggest percentage of revenue every year to IBM? Which product is that? I want to know because there's a story. It's the mainframe business. There's a story of IBM software. Approximately $8.6 billion in 2026. This is the transaction processing single largest software category they have. Number two is the red hats. Hybrid cloud brings in roughly $7.3 billion in 2025. And then IBM brought red hat for about $34 billion. This is what they bought in 2019, betting it would become the bridge between the old enterprises and then consulting, which brings $21 billion. So consulting is still a big part of IBM's. Then a mainframe brings $10.6 billion. So it's interesting. It's the mainframe consulting that makes them tons of money. Yeah, I remember reading a book called CEO Excellence. And in the book, if you remember this, it tells the story of what Andy Grove did. I don't know if you remember that, Tom. The story with Andy Grove and where he and a the former CFO, CEO of, former CEO of, what's the company's called? Is this it? There it is. Former CEO of Intel. They're sitting there having a conversation together, and Andy Grove, one of their divisions, I think, went from $198 million, Vinny, to $2 million. Let me say that one more time. They went from $198 million to $2 million, one of his divisions, of Intel. In this book, this is how he writes it. The president of the company at the time, Andy Grove, asked CEO Gordon Moore, if we got kicked out and the board brought in a new CEO, what do you think they would do? Moore, the CEO, Gordon Moore, he's the guy, he said, they would get us out of the memory chips game. Grove stared at him and said, why shouldn't you and I walk out the door, come back, and do it ourselves? The rest is history. Intel exited the DRAM memory chips business. And staked its future on a new product, a microprocessor. In doing so, Intel helped usher in the computer age and had a run of success that lasted for decades. I think the scary thing with IBM right now is, IBM has to kind of ask themselves, what's next? What is next? What business do they need to get out of? What business do they need to get in that they're not? They've got to make some decisions here. Because for you to go through a $72 billion in 48 hours, and don't get me wrong, they're going to be fine. IBM is IBM. It's not like tomorrow something's going to happen to them. This is more like a two-decade type of a thing that we're talking about. Tom, it looks like you want to say something. Yeah, no, and the time you're talking about is when IBM made a major shift from old mainframes to new mainframes. And IBM also created the Wintel standard, Windows and Intel. It's exactly the sequence you're talking about. And it was a big milestone for IBM. And by the way, Microsoft, there were two guys at IBM, one of them did not want to give Microsoft the operating system. Did not. And the other was Don Estridge did not. And there was one guy that did. Don Estridge would die in the Delta Airlines Windshear flight that crashed in Dallas in 1985. I know this whole story. There's a whole high school named for him in Boca Raton. And when he died, the other guy was left, and he gave the business to Microsoft. If it's not for that Windshear flight in 1985, IBM would have made its own operating system because that kicked off Microsoft. And so IBM shifted at that time to the personal computer. Good or bad move. It ended up being a good move for IBM to shift, but they later got out of the business as it became a commodity. They were never competing with Apple. Apple was always the artsy and other side of it and education. But it showed that IBM, and Lewis Gerstner wrote a book, Teaching an Elephant to Dance. It was a great book about IBM. So I think they'll be back. But right now, they're in the middle of a shift. They're another shift, and they've got to pick a side, and they've got to move. They've got to move forward. Adam. I'll add something. I've got to be honest with you. When we first started talking about this, I was like, yeah, I don't really, IBM, whatever. But I realized something, because I think this is what you were getting at. And it's the whole concept of reinventing yourself. Because to me, IBM is like the guy, like Al Bundy, who scored four touchdowns in high school and was like the best player in his town and went on to play college. But now all these other guys are playing in the NFL, and they lapped him. IBM got lapped. I mean, look at all the tech companies, NVIDIA, Apple, Microsoft. Amazon, Tesla, all these big tech companies were started decades after IBM. So to the average person out there, you might have had success 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and you're still kind of like, that's me. I'm that guy. I'm Al Bundy. I scored four touchdowns. I think, Pat, what you're kind of getting is you've got to reinvent yourself, and you've got to be known for one thing. The fact that we all collectively, using our brainpower, didn't know what IBM's flagship product was is a telltale sign. IBM, you've got a problem. We're not in this space. I guarantee if I asked the people that are in this space, they would be able to say it within a heartbeat of who it is. But again, I think they're going to be fine. Typically, when people that are involved in a situation like this, they'll make adjustments. Hopefully, they will. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get into is what just happened with New York and data centers. And New York became the first state to come out, impose AI data center ban, and a lot of people are confused. People are saying, wait a minute, am I about to support Hochul for the decision that they're making and where they're going with this? Kathy Hochul imposed a one-year moratorium on new data centers requiring at least 50 megawatts of power, making New York the first state with a statewide ban. Hochul said hyperscale AI facilities threaten to exceed grid capacity and pass higher electricity costs to residents. New York's average residential power price has, has increased nearly 68% since 2019, whether that's tied to data centers or not. That's a different story. Data centers have faced growing opposition over their electricity and freshwater consumption with proposed projects, drawn protests in communities including Lansing and East Fishkill. Environmental groups and Democratic lawmakers praised the pause, arguing the New York need guarantees that data centers will not raise bills, pollute air or water, weaken grid reliability. A June Siena poll found 46% of New Yorkers considered a one-year moratorium beneficial compared to 21% who opposed it, support cross-party lines with Democratic backing it by 37%, points in Republicans by 13%. 14 state legislators have introduced restrictions on state data centers construction, but none has enacted a statewide moratorium. Democratic governors in Maine and Virginia have cautioned against similar bans. Tom, is this a good thing or a bad thing and why? This is a bad thing. And I don't understand what Kathy Hochul is talking about. I'm sure she's done some good things. I'll list them here. Okay, that's a list. Now I'll go to this part of it. I'm not trying to be funny, but I'm honestly saying, what has Kathy Hochul done for the people of New York in this? I'm going to make one simple comparison. Did the United States of America during the 2020 election, was TikTok taking all of, you know what? Oh my gosh, they're taking data from our kids' phones and from us and on family cloud accounts and TikTok is taking data back to China. Was that a big deal, Pat? TikTok? Yeah, TikTok's taking our data back to China. Okay, well, then let's not build data centers here. We'll just use the ones in China. Really? Are you insane? And so she's missing an opportunity here. And the opportunities when we talk about to come forward and to build the infrastructure for the state of New York and to simply do it this way. I brought it up before data centers, you have to build your own electrical infrastructure or contribute to the overbuild and retrofit of ours. Step one, you can put small nukes there. We'll go to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and Department of Energy and we'll help you get next generation permits so you can put a small nuke there. And by the way, one condition, if there's a blizzard or something like that, you have to be available to switch your power from your nuke on to the ground. So you could help citizens in time of a civil emergency. Step one. Step two, we got to figure out how do we get different kinds of cooling? How does the state of New York maybe give some credits to companies that right now, Pat, there are companies right now that are being hatched and venture funded, trying to figure out advanced cooling solutions for data centers. You don't know why, because if we can make this work and we could sell it to one, we could sell billions and billions and billions of dollars of next generation cooling and use less water. It's all out there. She's missing an opportunity to put the state of New York in a leadership position. But while she's trying to knee jerk and saying, well, if your power is going up, there's an election coming up. No data centers, data centers, bad weather rather than coming back and saying, hey, we're going to put this on the ballot. We want you to vote for it. Data centers in the state of New York will be required to build their own power and find alternative cooling within 36 months of launching. By the way, the decibel rating on the outside of the data center can exceed this. Entrepreneurs, when given constraints, you know what they do? They invent solutions. That's what I think. I think this is a populist move, Pat. And if you're trying to chase more people out of the state and you're trying, then you make errors on tax. But if you're trying to do things for people staying in the state, this is not the way to do it, especially when we were all freaked out about TikTok taking our data. And now we're going to say no data center. Here, here, and here. The data is going to go somewhere, folks. It's going to end up in China. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. 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And the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier, so you can spend less time taxing, tackling dishes, and more time together. this episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks gemini and chrome is here for it ready to make anything online make sense there's no place like chrome check responses set up required compatibility and availability varies 18 plus when you need to build up your team to handle the growing chaos at work use indeed sponsored jobs it gives your job post the boost it needs to be seen and helps reach people with the right skills certifications and more spend less time searching and more time actually interviewing candidates who check all your boxes listeners of this show will get a 75 sponsored job credit at indeed.com slash podcast that's indeed.com slash podcast terms and conditions apply need a hiring hero this is a job for indeed sponsored jobs chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month each lasting four hours or more can make me feel like a spectator in my own life botox on a botulinum toxin a prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine it's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month it's the number one prescribed branded chronic migraine preventive treatment prescription botox is injected by your doctor effects of botox may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing speaking breathing eye problems and other problems can be caused by botox problems or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk side effects may include allergic reactions neck and injection site pain fatigue and headache allergic reactions can include rash welts asthma symptoms and dizziness don't receive botox if there's a skin infection tell your doctor your medical history muscle or nerve conditions including als lugeric's disease myasthenia gravis or lambert eaton syndrome and medications including botulinum toxins as these may increase the risk of serious side effects why wait ask your doctor visit botox chronic migraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more yeah so the people that agree and disagree bernie's for it very sympathetic aoc environmental groups some local community groups because the noise land use stuff like that people who are obviously against it it's trump data center developers data center coalition and many of the business groups and guys that are in the business space uh uh but but if let's just say you so now this becomes one of the decisions where you make as a state and some states are going to be like no to data centers all right guess what opportunity that creates for some states to say what we are we'll do with the following three guidelines that you follow okay guess what let's take our talents to miami you know let's take our talents to tennessee let's take our talents to idaho and and what what could those restrictions be maybe put it a certain amount of miles away from a nearest city that's got 20 000 population but you got to be 20 miles away from it you got to be 40 miles away from there's plenty of states that you can go to and do stuff that has plenty of land that's away from individuals adam where are you at with this adam pat i gotta tell you tom nailed it uh being anti-ai being anti-data center is like being anti-internet in the early 2000s yeah i don't i don't like this internet thing i don't know what this email thing is can't have that taking all the energy it's like yeah we're gonna change the world with the internet and we're gonna change the world with the internet email get on board so you can't put the genie back in the bottle it's inevitable so what they're trying to do in new york here is a one-year moratorium okay in one year we'll consider doing this it's inevitable john federman said listen if you continue to do this who's gonna win china's gonna win but new york has a history of doing this aoc five years ago was like yeah we don't need high-paying jobs from amazon we don't want that here and in the bronx get that out of our minds and we don't want that here and in the bronx get that out of our minds and we don't want that here and in the bronx This is inevitable. Data centers are coming. We need this for our country. If we're going to compete with the rest of the world, and specifically China. So we need this. All right. So we'll see. That's Adam's analysis for us on data centers. And we'll see what that's going to do for us. But we'll be hanging tight. Next story is this same-sex refuse to take the baby from a surrogate because she did not want to abort the baby. I mean, this is, when I'm reading this story to you, there's a part of me that's like, wait a minute, is this real story that I'm reading? It's a real story. So let me give you the facts, and then we'll get into it, because there's a lot of angles this can go. So same-sex couples sue surrogate who refuse to abort their two-year-old son over a minor birth defect. And this is a New York Post story. Vinny, I'm going to come to you first on this one. So a Canadian couple is suing the surrogate who carried their two-year-old, now two-year-old son after she refused. They refused their request to terminate the pregnancy over a cleft lip and possible minor heart defect. The lawsuit filed in Ontario Superior Court in May alleges the surrogate failed to keep the parents adequately informed, endangered the child, violated confidentiality, and caused emotional distress. The filing does not specify damage, but the surrogate said the couple indicated they were seeking approximately $600,000. They didn't get the perfect child they wanted, and they threw me out. The surrogate convinced through IVF using a donated egg and embryos created with both men's sperm. Oh, my goodness. Their relationship deteriorated in June of 2024 after an ultrasound at 22 weeks indicated a cleft lip and possible cleft palate and minor heart defect. Citing their surrogacy agreement, the couple requested an abortion. The surrogate said she would have terminated a pregnancy if the child were unlikely to survive but would not do it for a largely cosmetic and treatable condition. The couple agreed to continue the pregnancy after Mount Sinai. Hospital doctors determined the baby was generally healthy. Tensions resurfaced when the surrogate insisted on a midwife-assisted home birth. Despite the parents' request for hospital delivery, the baby experienced breathing difficulties but recovered after receiving oxygen and was taken to a hospital by ambulance. After taking their son home, the parents ended contact with the surrogate. She sought roughly $10,000 in unpaid expenses, lost wages, transportation costs, and missed pensions contributions. When she was released, the surrogate said she would not be able to survive. The surrogate said she would not be able to survive. When she pursued the dispute in small claims court, she learned the contract required arbitration and was subsequently sued for $600,000. Vinny. God bless her and good for her, Pat. This is exactly what happens when we start treating children like freaking property instead of people. You already know where I stand because me and you are on the same spot against the gay couples that are buying these kids and doing all this money and trying to. I'm not a fan of it at all, okay? You can sign a contract with a surrogate. You can enter into legal agreements. You can negotiate responsibilities and financial obligations. But the moment that new life is created, it's no longer subject to a contract, okay? That child that you're doing this and your sperm and his sperm and a woman, that belongs to God now. And you already know where I stand, Pat. Every child is made, every one of us, every child is made in the image of God. A cleft lip doesn't erase that, okay? It doesn't reduce the child's value. It doesn't justify. It doesn't justify murdering this thing because, oh, the dynamics of the kid are not the way that I want it. Since when did a birth defect become something to where you have to live or die? It starts with a cleft lip and then, you know, next is Down syndrome, next is something. Oh, his foot is different. I don't like it. They're not custom orders. This isn't freaking Amazon. This isn't Build-A-Bear, okay? They're not products that can be rejected, Pat. Thank God, thank God, and I'm assuming hopefully she's a Christian, she stood up and she had the courage to stand on her conviction. And say no, okay? And because of her, that little boy is alive today, and I think murder shouldn't be an option. Murder should not be an option, okay? God doesn't give any of us anything that we can't handle, okay? And there's surgeries that you can do. I've seen multiple, multiple websites with doctors that they can fix, they can try to help that cleft lip, Pat, and that's why we have to fight. And again, going back to the Roe versus Wade, you know, Dobbs and all that stuff, if it's not us fighting, we're not fighting. If it's not us fighting for these children, Pat, who's going to do it? They can't speak for themselves. They can't do it. We have to defend them. Tom, what do you have with this? Well, let me give you some names here. Jesse Jackson, rumored Winston Churchill, Lee Raymond, who is the chairman and CEO of Exxon that built it in the largest, most profitable company in the world at the time. They all were born with cleft lips. You may not agree with Jesse Jackson or agree with Lee Raymond, the industrial industrialist, and the Winston Churchill thing is a little bit disputed, but what if we just started erasing people from history or never having them at all? Because when a baby is born, it's snuffed out because it's deemed to be not perfect. Look at the people over time that we wouldn't have had. By the way, the scans of the sarcophagus seem to indicate that King Tut possibly not only had a cleft lip, but a full cleft palate. And so if you want to, if you want to just, you know, go for surrogacy and then eliminate people with even the most minor of the defects, you are missing the opportunity to see how that person grows up under the leadership of loving parents and who want the child and maybe overcomes the deficiency or a thing like this to just be an, just a, an absolute beacon. to the rest of us on the absolute amazing human spirit of achievement, overcoming disability and things. We miss that opportunity. We miss that episode. We all look like 1970s, the Stepford wives that were all like robotic and all looked alike. I'm sorry. The diversity that is among us racially, ethnically was all ordained by God and we're missing opportunities. And this just shows when you turn having a child into buying a coach purse that, oh, this one's got a, can I get a discount? This one's got a little defect on it. It's just, it disgusts me because you're playing with God. You're not playing with us. You're playing, you're playing with a program above your pay grade. Yep. Adam. I fully agree with Tom and Vinny. This story is getting me more upset the more that we talk about it, because as we're kind of like peeling the onion and seeing what's going on here, these two gay men designer baby, by the way, the child's right. The child's a human now, two years old. He might end up hearing the story that his parents wanted him aborted. And as you, as you peel back the onion at 22 weeks, they wanted her to abort the child because he had a potential cleft lip. Is that what it was guys? Yep. And 22 weeks, listen, you're over halfway there. That baby, if you see the image is a full on human. At that point, this is no longer an embryo. You can't even make the debate. Do you, by the way, do you know what percentage of abortions are done after 20 weeks? 1%. So the biggest thing here is you have these two gay men who have no idea what it's like for this woman to be pregnant. She obviously has an emotional attachment to it. She's like, yeah, I'm not going to abort the baby because it may have a cleft lip. And you can just see these gays back. Yeah. We want that baby gone. Are you kidding me? And now then they stiff her for 10 grand because they owed her money. And now they're suing her for 600 grand because the child that they wanted is alive. This is the most backward story. I'm so glad we're highlighting this. And I would love to shine a spotlight on these two gay guys with their designer baby. Yeah. I mean, look, simplest way to do it. Don't allow it. Simplest way to do it is don't allow it. Don't allow to make the decision to when it comes out to getting babies. I'm not, I've never been comfortable with that. That position for me is not going to change of where I'm at with it. It's going to stay the same way that it is. So good for the lady, whoever it is, she's watching, or if you know who she is, share this with her. She contacts us. I'd love to find a way to make something good for her. So if you know who she is and she's comfortable being public, we will keep her name private. I would love to find a way to help her out as she's going through this challenge in with, even if it's something small that we can help her out with. So I don't know who she is, but if you know her, please have her reach out to us. By the way, thanks to modern medicine, a child born due to an injury to the mother, not an illness to the child at 22 weeks, it's a 35% chance of survival. So there's a one in three chance that if that baby was born, cause the mom had some sort of an injury, the baby wasn't sick, that modern medicine could take it to full viability and survival. No, this is devastating. When you read this, it's, it's a story, but we got to read the story for people to know what's going on out there for us to keep these types of stories out there. All right, let me get to the next one here. Next one I want to get into is a little bit more of a lighthearted story is maybe not for some France lost yesterday to Spain and not yesterday. France lost to Spain, which I'm not a fan of because Spain to me is the most boring team that's out there. I know Tom's a diehard fan of Spain. He keeps defending them nonstop. And then Argentina yesterday is down one zero at the 80 something minute mark. And then all of a sudden Messi gets two assists and they end up winning the whole thing two to one. So now the finals are going to be Argentina against Spain, which it's, it's an interesting matchup. They say all the Muslim countries are officially eliminated from the world cup. England is out now. So that was like a massive story when you're talking about England being gone, but you know, Lamille Lamal is a superstar and he's a, you know, he's a guy that's very capable for the first time. I saw how, how capable he was and how aggressive he was playing. And he went after Mbappe. He was not afraid, but there's a picture of the significance of this that Vinny showed to us early this morning. Look at this picture, folks. If you go and see this picture is messy. Having a picture with Lamille Lamal when he was a baby, you almost can't even believe it when you're taking a look at this. It's, it's messy. It's almost like he's given him a bath. Did you see this? It's like Lamille Lamal go right there. So at first, when you show me this, I'm like, Vinny, there's no way this is true. So this is really Lamille Lamal at five months old. Yes. 19 years ago. Has this been fact-checked? Fact-checked. There was a UNICEF charity photo at Camp Nou where Lionel Messi was playing for Barcelona. Pat, families entered a raffle. Barcelona players were assigned by random lottery and somehow 20 year old Messi ended up pairing with this five month old baby. And that's what happened. The odds, Pat, go to the odds. I sent you, I slagged to the odds. Guess what the odds are of this happening? Some guy broke down everything, Pat. Take a wild guess. One in four billion. One in 625 trillion. This guy did the math. Zoom in a little bit, Bert. The probability of this happening says you are more than 2 million times more likely to win the Powerball jackpot than to have the script play out. It is roughly equivalent to picking one specific second out of three million years. One in 625 trillion. Insane. Wow. And they're facing each other Sunday. So here's the question. The challenge is Bellingham was on a streak of getting two goals back to back. Yes. They're two inches taller. They're faster. They're stronger. They're younger. In every way, on paper, England, even Calshi had them at 54 to 46% of England winning. But then some stuff happened. We can't show any of this stuff. At the end of the day, it's a game. It's a game. It's a game. They're giving a high five, all this stuff. The legendary clip is where Bellingham is saying stuff to Messi and Messi eventually goes like this. Okay. No problem. I'm supposed to beat you now. And he goes and beats him. And so, I mean, you just have to realize, imagine the fans who are like, can you go to the iShowSpeed when he's his last clip on his Instagram account? If you go on iShowSpeed's Instagram account. So he's a big Ronaldo guy. Massive Ronaldo guy. Cannot stand Messi to save his life. And he is there cheering for England. Watch this. Just press the first one. You can show it. It's a public video. This is England's first goal. Now watch what happens. He's such a troll. No matter where you are, including these places. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a broken down car. 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And then from there, in 86, the hand of God, you know, it says, hey, it went from the hand of God now to the left foot of God, which is Messi being left-footed. And so the guys at the end were holding the banners, calling out England. This was, so that's a political statement. So it was a great game now going into Spain. I don't know. It's going to be a wild time. I know you're picking Spain. So what's your score? What's your prediction with Spain against Argentina? You keep saying. I'm picking Spain. I'm not. I watched them at the end of group. I heart Spain. Look, three games at the end of group, they win by a combined score of eight to nothing. And no one scored on them. And I'm like, they're a machine. But then they look like they were asleep and they barely got through the next two games very tight. And then the machine shows up. So it's like, I don't know what to say. You know, yeah, I call what I see. I'm not a big football guy. But I'm, I look at this. Remember, Spain's only given up one goal. So if Argentina wins two to one, it means they score two. They double the amount of goals that Spain has given up in the tournament. Unfortunately, you know, my heart goes one way, but my mental, my mental side goes the other way. I think it's two, one Spain. Two, one Spain. Vinny, where are you at? Okay, first of all, Argentina had more heart. They played freaking lights out. They were, by the way, the shorter team. What I say yesterday, the first five minutes, you're going to know who's going to set the pace and the tempo. Run a poll. Run a poll to see what the audience thinks. Yeah, and guess what I saw, Pat? I saw them being physical. They weren't going to get pushed around. It was, it was an amazing, amazing game. Pat, fate is on, there's no way, there's no way Argentina's going to lose. And I just sent Humberto a link from a guy that posted at 7.28 p.m., July 11th, 2021. And he wrote, Argentina just beat Spain at the 2026 World Cup Final 2-3. And Humberto. Humberto, can you show that? This is a guy that tweeted? Well, he's running a poll. He wrote, he posted this in 2021. Argentina just beat Spain. Look at the date. Zoom in. Look at that. Argentina just beat Spain at 2026 World Cup Final 3-2, July 11th, 2021. And this is not the producer of Simpsons. No, no, no. But Pat, I don't think that, listen, Spain, very technical, very to the book kind of boring. There's no way. And Argentina's going to take it. So the score, what's your score? I don't know if I'm going to go with this guy, but let's just do it. I'm going to do it. 3-2 Argentina. Let's go. All right, Adam. Let's go, baby. That's a lot of goals. Let's go, yeah. Where are you at? So the question is what? Who's going to win? Who's going to win? Give us the score. Okay, well, we talked about I Show Speed. I Show Speed, unfortunately, is just a hater. So imagine, and by the way, he's a very likable guy. But when you're, all your passion is built on hating on the other person. Adam, can you just give me the score? The other guy? Just give me the score first. Give me the score first. Well, I was going to build up to why I'm going to give you the score, but I'll just give you the score. The point is, Messi's the GOAT. And sometimes you just cannot deny greatness. That's my point, is it's like you're rooting against Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan don't lose. So I don't know how Argentina got here. They beat multiple teams after being down in the last five minutes, two minutes, but Messi continues to pull it off. So stop hating. Stop hating on Argentina. Just appreciate greatness. I think they win 2-1. Okay. So check this out. Here's Kalshi. Look at the amount of volume, Vinny. $1.25 billion. Oh my God. And 58% is on Spain. Yeah. I don't know. 58% is on Spain. Okay. That's the quote of the title. 58% has Spain. Because those are all Ronaldo fans. That is insane. And by the way, look at all the money coming left and right. Look at all the money coming left and right. Look at that. $41, $11, $40, $225, $33. Wow. By the way, you asked me who I thought was going to win. That's like my prediction market. Where's my heart? My heart is with. Morocco. No. Cabo Verde. Cabo Verde. Canada. You're not supposed to interrupt when I'm about to say Morocco. No. My heart in this matchup is with Argentina. Seeing Messi, he's the GOAT. See him go back to back on the way out of his career. That's just amazing to see. This is like Tiger Woods winning the Masters. As the last major he ever wins. And he's over 40 years old. Your heart goes with the GOATs and the guys that have given us so much to cheer about. My heart, I hope Argentina wins. Tom is just trying to not lose his Argentinian audience. Tom, change your pick then, buddy. Do it publicly. Change your pick. It's a massive Argentinian audience. Oh, wow. What is that? So they have what percentage? 65 Argentina. 35 Spain. Let's go, boys and girls. It just means we have an audience that goes one way. But the reality. The reality of it is, it was something very emotional about this guy winning yesterday. Oh, my God. Something very emotional about the guy winning yesterday. I don't know what it was. You see the way they protect them, the way their teammates look at him. The guy scores the header. Instead of people running with the guy who scored the header, they run after Messi. And he gave that pass with a right foot as a lefty. They put him in the complete right side. It's like, why would you put him there? It was unbelievable. So Spain, Argentina, I think they're both great. Passers, they're very technical. It's going to be a good matchup. But, you know, the Calci's got those guys. We'll see what will happen. All right, let me do one last story, and then we wrap up. So the last story I'm going to get into. Do you want to do the Pete Hexa story with testosterone or Taco Bell? Let's do Taco Bell. Let's go to Taco Bell. So Taco Bell, you know, has got some things going on. So Taco Bell, let me find the story. Is it page 20? What page do you guys have it on? My notes or not. Can you just give me the page? That you have, because I don't have it on mine. Do you have the page? Page 20. Is it page 20, addendum, or main? It's right. It's main. Page 20. Let me go to it. Oh, wait. Okay. The Taco Bell had a rough situation here, folks. Rough, rough situation. Voluntarily removed some ingredients at select restaurants amid cyclosporiasis outbreak. Okay. They limited the ingredients for selected restaurants at precaution during a growing outbreak. Although the public health officials have not linked the illness to the company, any restaurant supplier or ingredient, Michigan has recorded 3,309 cases since June of 2022, since June 22nd, which is like two weeks ago, including more than 600 added since Monday and at least 44 hospitalizations. The state typically reports approximately 50 cases annually. More current infections are in southeastern Michigan, with adults ages 30 to 39 representing the largest group. Vinny, what's going on here with Taco Bell? Well, first. First of all, if I'm going to be honest, Pat, I've never gone to Taco Bell and not have explosive diarrhea afterwards. I'm pretty sure. So it's permanent for you, no matter what it is. No matter. And Humberto could vouch for this. Like, and this is, this is a true story. I was dealing with constipation. Remember like the last trip that we had, I had to take those. No, I'm being dead serious. I had to take Metamucil. Nothing worked. My, you know, my doctor finally said, what's that? Go to Taco Bell, get a beefy five layer burrito, get a Baja Blast. I, no, Adam, I'm dead serious. And I almost didn't make it home. But you know what the funniest part about this whole thing? The doctor really said, the doctor said, when's the last time you went to Taco Bell? I said, sir, I haven't, you know, he's like, go there right now. And it worked. And I'm telling you guys right now, to be honest, this story, you're joking. No, I'm dead serious. My doctor, we're like this. He said, yeah, he's very, very cool. He goes, go to, he's like, when's the last time you had a Mexi-Mel? And I was like, they don't even make them anymore. He goes, they'll make whatever you want, but you're ready for this. This story is not going to change anything. Yesterday, we drove by a Taco Bell line wrapped around the damn building. Americans don't give a damn. Remember 15 years ago, Taco Bell. People admitted that their beef wasn't, it was only 88% beef. The rest of it was binders and seasoning. You know what people said? I don't give a damn. Are you open till 2 o'clock in the morning? Yes. Give us some cinnamon twists. I'm going to keep coming to this damn place. I'm telling you right now, even though this is the story, I would still go to Taco Bell. What up? You think he's not going to go? Do you remember the Chihuahua, Yoquero Taco Bell? Yeah, they sued. Yeah, of course. They didn't, like, somebody sued because the voice was being offensive or they stopped using the little Chihuahua. But yeah. Yoquero blowing mud. So, you know, I used to go to Del Taco a lot. There's Del Taco on their menu. They had the Supreme something. Is it the Del Taco menu that had the Supreme Burrito or Supreme something? Oh, I love that. Was it Taco Bell? They even sold cheeseburgers there. Go to Del Taco's menu, just right there. Can you go to their menu? There was something they had. Oh, you're getting me so hungry, Pat. Right there. Keep going lower. What is that guy right there? The big one. The big one. The burrito. Go on the burrito. It's an epic burrito. It says Colin Klein. - What? - What did it say? Jacked up beans. Epic beef and bean burrito. That was just ridiculous. I'm going to go to California. So, Adam. Do not eat within one hour of watching World Cup. What Adam likes to do is Adam likes to drive with Uber drivers who go to Del Taco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Burrito Supreme. Is that Taco Bell or Del Taco? That's Taco Bell. Pooping Pedro. Apparently, I ate a lot of these back in Glendale days because we had a Taco Bell down the street. Were you regular? I've been regular my entire life. I don't have a problem with that. It's just I don't need a Taco Bell to help me out. Adam, your thoughts. Listen, that Uber driver situation was the second worst Taco Bell encounter that I've had in the last few months. I don't get why people love Taco Bell. Oh, you don't know. Like, my girl loves Taco Bell. I was on my way to her house. She's like, can you stop at Taco Bell? And if you know downtown Miami, right after you get off the highway, there's a Taco Bell right there. Never been there in my life. I go into the restaurant because, obviously, I pulled up in an Uber and I got a different one. Like, a man. And I said, what kind of zombie creature land is going on here? I'm waiting in line here. These two black girls get in a fight. It's my turn. It's my turn. I was like, where do you got me in here? I walked out. Homeless people everywhere. Can I get a dollar? This, that, the other. I said, never again. There's two things I've said in my life before. Never again. The Holocaust. Going to Taco Bell. I don't get it. I don't understand why they get it. She loves it. Being shocked that you have to go to the bathroom right after you go to. Go to Taco Bell. Should not be a shocker. That's like saying, hey, I just had a New York street meat hot dog on the corner. Oh, you hurt your stomach? Hurt your tummy? No kidding. I don't get Taco Bell, but I love my girl. So I'm going to get her the Taco Bell. But for me, never again. By the way, the guy that did that, the odds of the one in 625 trillion, just did a really quick one of how a Holocaust story could come into a Taco Bell diarrhea story. And it's one in 50 billion. We pulled it off. We did it. We pulled it off. But that's how strong. That's how strongly I feel about Taco Bell. Tom, this is something more serious, though. Wow. This needs some sort of case study here. No, I mean, let me tell you. Taco Bell, Del Taco. God bless you. And by the way, on the state seal of California, they used to joke because they show a Spanish mission. And we used to say Taco Bell, you know, part of the state seal in the history of California, which was kind of half true, but crazy. That's hilarious. You had something about something was in the Mia, Tom. So you said something was in the water, though, right, Tom, with the lettuce. Yeah, this is something something serious, though. Let's be serious. The products are talking about are susceptible to, you know, you know, bad pathogens when water that's contaminated is irrigates the area within like a week of picking. Oh, great. Yeah. So so it's in lettuces. What'd you say? Ninety how many? Ninety eight percent water. Ninety percent water. So it's. Anyway, guys, lunch is on me today. I sent you some Taco Bell. I'm going to Uber deliver you guys. I know you're in Rhode Island. It'll be there. And thanks, buddy. About forty five minutes. You'll be in the bathroom in forty six minutes. All right. So there you go. We finish with a Taco Bell story. If I was to tell you we're going to finish with a Taco Bell story, I would have said you're crazy. 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