Amon-Ra St. Brown on the Lions 2-1 Start, Dan Campbell, & Jared Goff Connection | Gronk & Jules Show

Happy Thursday. We've got another big one today. We got Lyon superstar Amara Saint Brown talking about MCDC golf love and dome. Plus, I'm giving my take on the officiating and previewing tonight's Thursday night football matchup between the Browns and the stillers at the dog pound. Let's get into it. He's one of the baddest dudes in the league feels like every week he's going for a hundred plus finding the end zone. Let's get on Amara Saint Brown. What's up Saint Brown? How you doing? I'm doing good man. I appreciate you coming on. How you feeling after this big win against the Jets? Who are a pretty tough team this year? How's the big win feel? It feels good. You know, it was a tough, tough battle to win. I was a good team. I felt like they're much improved from last year. I felt like a lot of the teams that we're playing are much improved from last year, but it was a big dub to get one at home. I feel like, you know, it was a little tighter than we wanted it to be, but I feel like in this league, man, you never really know what to expect. Any one, I feel like it's big in this league. I look across the board. It's like there's games and I'm looking at besides, you know, not just our games like every game is closed. The teams that you think weren't going to be good are good. The teams that you thought were going to be the best on plans goes you thought. So this league has a lot of parity and it's I think that's what makes this league so great. You said that teams are that you thought weren't going to be tough are tough. And I honestly think it's because you guys have put yourself on to a standard and you've played yourself into a standard where no one can look at you guys and think you're the Detroit lines of the past. Everyone's bringing their A game against you guys now because you guys are so goddamn good. You guys are getting everyone's best now because of the standard that you guys have played in. Yeah, I think, I think like you said, I think it makes it obviously a little tougher. I feel like every team that comes in, you know, they're giving us their best shot. They're A game, they're picking, pulling out the tricks and they're back. But to be on, you know, this side of it, whereas I was on the other side one time where we know, when I first got a Detroit, you know, we only won three games in my working year and we were doing those same things because those good teams, you know, we had the fake punts up every week. We had the trick plays. We gave our A game every week against those good teams and we were so close to being them and we just never could. And so to be on the other side of that is nice. But I think, man, our standards in Detroit are so high that we feel like, you know, we still have so much ball left because we have so much to get better at to improve at. And it's only week three at store early, but, you know, we want to just continue to improve each and every week. I think that's the biggest thing for us right now. You're so consistent weekend and week out. Take us through your prep, bro. I want to know, how do you prep? What's your process? What is, how do you get to be on my raw same brown? I think for me, man, it starts, you know, it starts with the beginning of the week, you know, getting in after games. I feel like it's always tough. You're sore, but it's a weekly thing, man, getting in flesh in the body. I feel good being ready for Wednesdays practice. I feel like that's the biggest day for us is Wednesday. I feel like that's most teams. That's our work day. So making sure that I'm ready for Wednesdays, making sure that I'm lifting, staying on top of that, because I feel like as the season goes on, you get more and more sore. You feel like you don't have to lift as much, but for me, I like to take the weight room really serious because for me, I feel like it helps, you know, keeps me, keeps me stay healthy, helps me stay healthy throughout the season, which I think is very important. A lot of guys, man, you know, they wish they can play 17 games. A lot of us wish we can play all 17 games and be healthy. I think that's one of the hardest challenges in the league is to stay healthy. So if I can do that for my teammates, I, you know, already have a warm up and a lot of people in this league. So staying healthy for me is very important. And then just being there for my teammates, you know, making sure my playbook, I know the plays, and then when I get down to the practice field, man, I feel like practice is everything. You know, if I can give, if I can make practice, the hardest that I can be, you know, stress myself as much as I can during practice. I feel like the games only be that much easier because they don't really know where I'm going. They don't know my intentions. And I can go full speed and play free. Now, where did this mindset come from? This come from your father? These hard practices because I mean, this is how we were in New England. I mean, we made practice absolutely the hardest. So game day was easy. But where did your mindset of having this? I mean, this is awesome leadership that you're one of the highest paid guys on your team. And you're out there practicing your freaking balls off on a Wednesday every week. Like, where did that mindset come from? I think so. I think it came from, you know, obviously, my father and how he kind of raised me and my two brothers, how we trained being with him each and every day. We kind of instilled that hard work and that discipline in us at an early early age. And then as I've gotten older, you know, I went to high school, got to college. He wasn't with me anymore kind of started to realize, you know, that is what makes people different. That is what makes me different. And so I continued that on as I got to college when he wasn't there around me each and every day. And then when I got to the league, I kind of, you know, stayed with that same mindset of working hard and making practice. My dad always said, man, practice, make practice easier to the games or make practice hard so the games are easy. And so Dan came. What's kind of instilled that into us as a team too, man, we go hard and training camp each and every year. I feel like training came as one of the hardest times for us throughout the whole season because we're going nonstop each and every day. We got pads for two, three days and we get a little rest day and we ramp it back up. So I think Dan is a great job of, you know, keeping us on tilt on edge a little. And I mean, we all understand how important practice is because I feel like that's what makes us different as a team. You're in Detroit. I feel like we play hard. We play for each other. And at the end of the day, we still want to have that physical brand of football practice execution becomes game reality, bubs. And it's, and it's evident with how you guys are playing on offense. But when something that hit me when you were talking right there, when you went to college and you didn't have your dad there, I had a very involved dad that used to work me to death when I was a kid as well. When I left to college and he wasn't around, I used to hear him in my head and I would hear this little voice in my head after practice. Like get that. You still have that with your pops or? Yeah, I would say I was similar to you. I wouldn't say as much anymore, but I remember being in college. And I'm a practice and my dad was at like every practice of mine in high school. He was at every game. He never missed anything. And so I would always in the middle of practice or in the middle of games, I would look over to see if he's happy or if he's trying to whistling towards me to tell me to do this better. I didn't do this. So I remember getting to college and I would look over my shoulder to see if he was still there. And he wasn't. But I would still think in my head, what would my dad be thinking right now? What would he want me to improve on? Or what would he think about this rep or how I did this? So I was always thinking about that when I was in college and what my dad would want. But as I've gotten older, man, my dad has kind of become more, you know, he's kind of taking a backseat role and has realized that I've become that pro. And he's, you know, he's led me to this point. And you know, he believes in me and my abilities. And I tell my dad, now I'm at pops. I got it. He still tries to, you know, coach me hard and stuff like that. But, you know, that he never really played football. I played in high school. He was a bodybuilder. So all he really knows is man, get 14 the ball. Why isn't 14 getting the ball? I'm like, Hey, dad, sometimes I can't get the ball. I replay it, man. I love it. I love your dad, man. I follow him on Instagram. Um, are you a film guy? I do watch film. I wouldn't say I'd go home and watch, you know, too much tape because I feel like, for me, I don't like to overreact overthink things when I'm out there on the field. I like to play free at the end of the day. If I go right, the defender has to go right. If I go left, he has to go left and follow me. Um, so they move as I move and obviously, you know, understanding coverages and what they like to get to how they, how their safety is played, how their DB's play their tendencies is always good to know. So I do pay attention to that type of stuff. But I don't like to over-drench myself in all the films today because at the end of the day, I can watch all the film I want and when I get out there on Sunday, they can play something completely different. You never really know what to expect, especially when they play as I'm, we've seen some crazy defenses this year. So, um, I just like to play fast, play free. Um, obviously I have an idea of what they're going to do. And I kind of have, you know, this pre-snap idea. This might happen. But at the end of the day, I'm re-acting. I'm playing fast and they got to guard me whoever I go. Yeah. All right. We got to have a little German talk, man. I got a German mother. You have a German mother. I don't speak German. But can you describe to everyone what, what it's like having a German mother? Yeah. Um, I mean, having a German mother is, it's a lot different. I feel like for me growing up, you know, it's kind of the norm for me. Um, my mom was born and raised in Germany. My dad met her when he was bodybuilding, competing out in Germany. Um, you know, they kind of fell in love, did the whole thing. And my dad brought her over to the States. And, you know, she had me and my two brothers. But having a German mother is, to me, it's a blessing. I get to, you know, have two different cultures in my life. My dad being from America, my mom being from Germany. I kind of have, you know, grew up around two different cultures. I speak the language. Um, you know, I was, you know, me and my two brothers are so fortunate to have a mother that only spoke German to us growing up as kids. So, you know, we still only speak German to her. That's like our way of communication is when my mom calls me. I'm talking to him in German. I'm texting her in German, which is at the house. We're talking in German. And so, um, it's, you know, it's a blessing to have a mother from Germany that, that's, you know, allowed us to be immersed in that culture, understand the language, know the language. And I feel like when you speak the language, you're just that much more involved in that German culture. So it's been, it's been a blessing. Without, what's your favorite German food? Oh, um, I tell everyone, you know, this is going to sound crazy, but I don't think German food is the best food. I'll tell my mother that, too, also to her face. I don't know if it's the best food, but they do have some good culture, some culture food. If you haven't had German food, you got to try Schnitzel. I feel like that's a German staple, yeah, a Schnitzel. I like Spetzel. They have, okay, Spetzel, they got red cabbage, too. That's, you know, roll cold. Roll cold, right? Yep. Love that. They got cut off was a lot, which is potato salad. Yes. Fun to cook it. Let's make him that. Yep. Fun to cook him. That too. I mean, there is a lot of German, the German, German moms always love, like there's always like a three-course meal, at least with my Oma, we'd always have like a, a cucumber salad with like a sour cream, cucumber salad, and then we'd have the soup, and then we would get into the main course every single time we, we Graham, Oma. It was great. Do you have that, too? Yeah. You know, my Oma, too, it was like German, Germans are very like, they take eating and dinner, dinner time, very serious, very intimate to them. I would say more than in his year in America, like when you go to a restaurant in Germany, man, if you sit down, they're going to let you enjoy it. They're not, they're not going to bring the bill out until you tell them like, hey, we're ready for the bill. Like in America, it's like, they're trying to get in and out, get the next guest on, so they can make some money for the restaurant. German is like, dude, people sit out for like three, four hours enjoying their time. And so it's a much different experience, but yeah, it's a four course, four course meal. You got, you know, appetizers, you got salads, you got the meal, you got dessert, you got coffee and cake. That's a whole other thing that they have in Germany. So it's just, it's a cool little culture. And the manners, my Oma was super strict with my manners. Like if, when I would eat the soup, if I had the spoon coming towards me, she would get so mad. You have to tilt and go spoon away and put it like she was very particular with my gosh dang manners, always Oma. Nine. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I gotta, we get back on the football. Do you love dome as much as Jared Goff? Do I love that? That's a crazy question. I love dome. I do love dome. I do love dome. I do love dome stadiums. Yes. I love playing. I love playing in dome stadiums. Um, I might be, you know, biased. I play receiver. Like, I want to catch the ball. We want to catch the ball's wide outs. And we know, you know, rainy games, wind, weather doesn't really help our case. So to be able to play half my games inside of us, you know, inside of a dome is a blessing. I've had it my whole career. So I don't really know what it's like to really, you know, play a lot of cold games outdoors. But it is a blessing. I will say, especially as a wide out. I love it. I'm not complaining. I wouldn't complain to play the rest of my career and have games, you know, in the dome. St. Brown's a dome guy. I love it. Just like Jared. Now, how do you have such a great chemistry with Jared? Explain that to us through practice and what are the things that you guys did to develop this chemistry that seems to be unbeatable, bro? Yeah. I feel like, you know, I mean, Jared, we kind of, you know, we came into Detroit at the same time. We got traded here to Detroit and that same, you know, that same offseason, I got drafted here. We kind of came together, we've, we've seen how this whole thing has grown. And you know, early on when I was a rookie, I wasn't Jared's first read, I probably wasn't the second read. It's probably like his check down or third down, not third down, but check down. Third option, type of guy. And, you know, I kind of built that trust and chemistry with him throughout my rookie year, going into my second year and we kind of, you know, he lives in California in the offseason. I live in California in the offseason. So I give us a chance to, you know, run routes together in the offseason. That's big to understand. He starts to understand my body language, how I like to run my routes, I understand, you know, how he likes me to run the routes, what he's seeing out there. I think that's one of the biggest things too is I now understand, you know, what he's seeing in a defense and what his first reads are, you know, if I'm second, third progression in the read, I don't need to have to be the fastest coming out of my brace. I can kind of take my time because it's kind of, you know, all the time you think when you're playing, playing that quarterback's quarterback position, you're going through to read. You want guys to be different spots at different times. So understanding all that type of stuff as a receiver, I think is important. And like I said, just being with him for, you know, going on to my six year now, we talk a lot. We hang out a lot. I think there's a quarterback receiver chemistry that goes beyond just the locker room and on the field. I think it goes beyond, you know, throwing balls and catching balls for your quarterback. I think it goes, you know, there's something I think to be said about understanding what type of guy he is mentally and what he likes and being close to him off the field. I think that helps you on the field. I mean, it's apparent. You guys, you guys are on that same page. Let's, let's take a little deep dive into this Detroit locker room. How is this locker room different than ones in the past? I would say a lot of us hear that, you know, that are here in Detroit that have been here for a while. The new clear says has been here. I mean, I can go down to the less me, Penae, Alim, Jameer, Jared, Aiden, Jack, Brian Branch. There's a lot of guys that have been here for a while and have seen the ups and downs and have won a lot of games for us. So, I feel like a lot of us in this locker room are really tight. I feel like that does make our group specials because when you're going out there and playing on Sundays, man, you're really, you're really playing for yourself and your teammates. That's really what you're playing for. You're not really playing for your coaches. I mean, you might be playing for your kids, you know, your family. But at the end of the day, man, you don't want to, you don't want to feel for your teammates. That's the biggest thing. And if you're out there with guys that you really love and care about, I think you're going to play naturally that much harder. I mean, if I took, I have two older brothers. If I was on the field lined up with my two older brothers, I'm a naturally block harder for them so that they don't get an extra hit on them or I'm going to make sure I do the stuff to help them succeed because I love them so much. So, I think there's something to be said about having a tight locker room and being close to the guys, it's only going to make you want to play harder for them when you're out there on Sundays. You guys have a great culture. I love it. What's going to get you over the hump this year? Oh, that's a great question, Julian. What's going to get us over the hump? I feel like, obviously, winning games is number one. You got to be able to get into the dance. We didn't get into the dance last year, which was disappointing. So, I think for us, making sure we win, you know, win games, obviously, winning games and our division is very important. You want to try to win your division, try to get that, whether it's the, you know, first home game. If your first club game is a home game, that's nice. But if you win the division, man, you're going to get a top 4C, which is always very important in the playoffs, I think, to get that advantage. But I think for us, man, getting over the hump, we got to win the big ones. Whether that's, you know, a game to get us into the playoffs, whether that's a tight game in the division around, the wildcard around, and the NFC championship, we've got to be able to finish and win the big game. And I think we have all the right pieces in our locker room. I think we've got the right coaches. We've got everything we need in Detroit to do it, which is a matter of time of us. Putting all together on display and coming all together, you know, as one to do it. But I'm excited. I feel like we have a shot this year. It's going to, like, this NFL years have already been crazy going into three weeks. Like, there's a lot of teams that have lost games that no one thought were going to, you know, lose. There's a bunch of teams that no one thought were going to be, you know, that good that are winning games. So, like I said, that's what makes this league so special. You never really know what to expect. But I think it's going to be a special year. Everyone gets paid. Everyone gets paid in this league. Who's the funny guy in the locker room? Who's the funny guy? Ooh. I think, you know, I think Jamo is Jamo's a character. He's he's authentically himself, which I feel like everyone can respect, not just our teammates, but people with that, you know, fans of Detroit. Jamo's himself, my each and every day is not going to change for anyone. He's a he's a funny guy. I love Jamir. Jamir is a jokester. I mean, it never really takes things serious, which is you watch him play on his tunas. Like, I mean, he's to me, he's the best back in football and he makes it look so effortless. But he's always, you know, on a funny tip, he's always trying to have fun and never be too serious, which I think is great, especially with this sport, man. This sport can be so brutal and physical and the loss is things get emotional. Jamir is never too, too uptight. Man, he's always down to have a good time and relax and just keep things easy at ease, which is nice. Who else? You know, Jared has some some witness to him. I might probably see in his interviews, but Jared does have some witness to him, which I love. Um, yeah, I would say those three guys, man. You and Gibbs first duo to have six touchdowns, six plus touchdowns in the first three games since 1962. You know that? I didn't. You I mean, you guys are freaking ballin. That's that's for sure. Let's go on the other, uh, the other end of the spectrum. Who's the team asshole? Yeah, it could be a lovable asshole, but the guy that, you know what I mean? Right. Um, I mean, offensively, you know, this is a guy that a lot of people, I don't, you know, really know he's been with the line that actually long in the mid. He's one of our longest tenured lines is one of the receiver Tom Kennedy. He's our kick return and prep returner. He's a team asshole. He's, he's like, I mean, funny stuff like sarcastic. He's from New York. He has that dry humor. Um, I'm giving TK the team asshole war. I love it. Are you, are you meant to, you're in your six, six, six year now, right? Yeah. Are you mentoring these boys? Are you, are you a mentor? Kind of guy? Are you a lead by example guy? Are you vocal with these younger guys? I mean, you're a nucleus guy. How are you as a leader in that locker room? Yeah, I would say, I'm a first, I'm a lead by example type of guy, I feel like, you know, every leader, it's just start with that. Um, you can't lead if you can't do yourself. So, and hold yourself accountable. So I'm definitely a leader by example type of guy. I don't like to speak up too much unless something is, you know, clearly an issue and someone needs to say something. But for the most part, man, I think people, you know, my teammates, they know, you know, what I'm about and how I operate and how I go about my business. I love to lead by example show the guys, man, how to do it. What it looks like, especially the young guys come in the rookies, the year two guys that are still trying to figure things out. The guys that have been, you know, in my class and have been around me, they kind of know how I operate. And so, but for the young guys that come in, man, I just like to let them know how this leak is, how we do things here in Detroit, things like that, to, you know, making feel comfortable, allow them to, you know, feel comfortable around me because, you know, I can't imagine being a young rookie coming to a locker room with all these type of guys and, you know, looking up to some of us. At the end of the day, we're all the same people. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. And so, letting these young guys know that, you know, just go out there, play free. At the end of the day, man, football is football, whether you did it in pop honor, high school, college, you run, you hit, you tackle, you block. I mean, the fundamentals, stay the fundamentals. So, just go out there, play and have fun, man. - I love it. I love it. We got to talk about MCDC, your head coach, Dan Campbell. Do you see him taking caffeine through an IV bag or does he just drink coffee all day? - You know, I don't see the caffeine through the IV bag. I honestly don't even see him drink too much coffee if I'm being quite honest. Every time he's with us, man, he's either, you know, in the team, medium talking to us, there's no coffee around on the field, there's never a coffee. So, I don't really see him drink it too much. You might be sneaking it in up in the upstairs with the coaches and whatnot. But, Dan always brings the energy, man. I don't even think he needs coffee to be energized. I think he wakes up off, you know. He literally has forever caffeine in his body the way he operates. I love the man, he's one of my favorite coaches ever. - What's something about him that would surprise everyone, that they don't know? - I think, I think some of that would surprise people about Dan is he seems, I mean, I don't really watch other interviews and stuff 'cause I'm just not on social media like that, but I feel like from what it seems from the outside, he's very intense. He's very on edge all the time, but I feel like Dan can, he's actually really, you know, he's relaxed. He's cool, he likes to joke and have fun and mess around. And I think a lot of people, especially me, I'm gonna be in a rookie coming in. I'm like, dude, dude, dude, Dan is his biggest hell. He's like six, five, he's about 250, he's huge. He looks scary, his voice is deep. He has all this energy and I, you know, coming in as a young guy, you're kind of intimidated by Dan. But I think being in around him so long, you kind of understand how he operates. And man, he's just like one of us. He played the game, he understands what it's like. He knows that the weeks get long, the days get long, but the years are short and he understands that. And so he's, man, he's an awesome dude. He can be very serious, he can be very relaxed. He's, his emotional intelligence is very high. He understands his players and he's one of the best leaders, man. - I love it. Could he win in a steel cage match versus every other NFL coach? - I'm trying to think of some coaches that are of his stature. - Rable. - Mike Rable is another big guy. Yeah. - Rable is a big guy, but-- - He's a tight end. So you know how them DNs versus some tight ends. Usually it's, usually if a DN's going to get to tight end, it's easier. KOC's tall, but he's kind of skinny. - Nah, I give me Dan over KOC. There's, I mean, besides Rable, I'm taking Dan, or probably over everybody. - Aaron Glenn, Scrabby, D.B. - Nah, nah, I love A.G. But that's not even fair. - Salah? - That's a mismatch. - No, I was like, yeah, Salah. - He looks like a warrior. - He looks like a warrior from like the olden days back in like Egyptian times or something. He looks like a crazy warrior. - Yeah, give me Dan or everybody. I'm biased, but give me Dan. Rable will be a tough match up though. I would, I probably like to see that one. I love it. This NFC North is stacked. How real are these rivalries? - I think they're pretty legit. I feel like, you know, we got, I feel like our division's pretty good too. I'm gonna start with that. We got the Bears who are two and one right now who won the division last year. We got the Packers who are, I feel like our good almost every year. With Matt Leflora, head coach and, you know, they're just a well coach team. They've won a lot of games, you know, they know what it looks like to win in the Vikings. I mean, they're three and no right now. They're at the top of our division. So our division, I feel like you really never know who's gonna win it. We got a lot of good teams. Each team is like, you know, when the Packers play the Vikings or we play the Bears, or if anyone's playing anyone, you don't really know who's gonna win. It's a crap shoe. And so I feel like that's what makes our division so so special. And I do feel like the rivalries are there. We don't like anyone in our division, obviously. And I don't think anyone in our division likes each other. And I think that's what makes our division so great. You know, there's those cold games in Chicago in the Winnie City. You go up to Lambo, the cold games in the, you know, in the winter, then you come to Detroit and Minnesota. It's the dumb game, baby. You know, the weather is gonna be the same. - No, no, no, no. - We know, we know. That ball is gonna be flying around and it's gonna be a lot of passing yards and we love it. But it's great to get a, you know, a feel of both. You get to, we get to play outdoors and indoors, which is nice, but I love our division, man. There's a lot of competition. A lot of uncertainty and I think that's great. - When you see the success that Ben Johnson's having as a head coach, how does that make you feel? - You know, I'm happy for Ben. Ben's my guy. I feel like me and Ben really understood each other on another level besides football. We talked a lot when he was here in Detroit. We still, you know, catch up every now and then, even though he's not here anymore. But, man, I love watching Ben succeed 'cause I know how much he loves. He loves this game. I know how much he loves winning. How much he hates losing. He's the ultimate competitor. And so, you know, I was watching that game last night, against the Eagles. And as much as I do want the Bears to lose to help, you know, to get them L on their record and make our division, maybe a little bit easier for us. I'm still rooting on, you know, rooting for Ben and hoping he does well. Got some old teammates that played for the Bears. They had a good game yesterday. So, man, I'm rooting on anyone that I know personally or that I've connected with or played with. I'm always rooting on for those guys. So, I got a lot of love for Ben, except for when he plays us twice a year. There's no love for Ben in those times. - You and your brother got the podcast, the St. Brown podcast. Who's your dream guest? - I would say right now with the way everything is going, the way the pistons have been playing, you know, the season they had last year. I would say Katie Cunningham is probably on the top of my list right now. Just because I feel like I have a lot of football guys on all the time. I got a lot of Detroit fans that watch the podcast and I think having a guy like Kate on who has done so much for the pistons basketball in the last three, four, five years, that would be it. That would be like guess. - So, you and the other Detroit pro team guys are all cool? - I mean, I would, yeah, I would say, you know, I've met some of the Tigers players. They're awesome dudes. Some of the red ones guys are cool. I mean, if I meet them, they're all super cool, super nice, you know, I feel like we all kind of have that same, we all kind of come from that same background like Detroit sports. They have, everyone kind of looks at Detroit sports a certain way. And so we kind of all kind of greedy guys, just want to win, do anything for the team. Guys in the pistons are cool. Kate's awesome, do met him a few times. Some other guys in the team, I mean, have good relationships with, you know, some people from the pistons that are on players that are on the higher up. So it's awesome to be a part of this, you know, Detroit sports, culture and city and the fans, man, the fans are the best. So to be able to do that in front of these fans is nothing's better. - What's your favorite thing to do in Detroit when you don't have football? Greek town, you know, Detroit pizza? - I've gotten into golf. I've gotten into golf lately. I'm not the best at it. But the golf courses out here in Michigan, the public courses are pretty nice, I must say. So whenever I'm not, especially in the OTAs, man, when I'm out here, and you know, OTAs only like two, three, four hours, you got to the rest of your day, you do anything you want. I'm going golf and some of my teammates, some of my boys, and it's just a lot of fun. - What's your favorite club in the bag? - My favorite club. I got this little seven wood that I really love. - Seven wood, everyone's got me seven wood. - 180 to 200, like, don't have to hit it perfect. It gets a good distance for me. I'm on a par five. It's perfect. So I give me that seven wood, man. - Amazing. All right, man, you got the Panthers this week on Sunday night football. How are we feeling about this Sunday? - I not feel like the Panthers are a good team. That's another team I feel like that people thought, you know, might not be the best team. They put up all these points, week one. They've had some losses, you know, had lost last week. But that's a team that I feel like people, you know, can sleep on because they got a guy like Bryson, who's gotten so much better. I've spent a privilege to watch me, be able to watch him grow and get better in this league. I think their head coach has done a great job. I think their defense is stout. So it's going to be a good game in, you know, in Carolina last time we went there was my second year and they beat us, which was a crazy game, super cold game. So I'm excited to get back. I feel like it's going to be a good one. They're a good team. We got to be ready. by Sterling and the Weeknd. So I haven't watched too much tape on them. Game plan isn't in yet, but I think we'll be ready. - So what about celebration? What do we got? Anything good? - We gotta wait. - No, you know, I usually get my celebration ideas dialed in like Friday night, Saturday, as we're traveling on the plane. I mean, I've gotten fined. I got to find a pretty hefty amount for what I did on week two. And I don't like losing money if I don't have to. So I'm gonna try to keep it, you know, more PG, three pumps. The three pumps get you got to keep it to two. You got to fake the third one always. - Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna have some plan. I'm gonna have some radio and don't worry. - I can't wait. We can't wait to talk about it all Monday, man. I appreciate you taking time on your day off. I know you're in the grind of the season, man. Continue to ball, man. I love watching you play. I love your mentality. I love how you are in the run game. I love how you are so versatile. They can put you anywhere. I love how you win on the outside. I love your toughness. I love your strength through your fucking ball. Like you're a baller, man. Stay healthy. And thanks for coming on my dude. - Appreciate it, Jules. Appreciate it, man. - Man, how great was Aman Ra? - He's a gem, man. Like I love his game. I love his mentality. I love what he said about practice. How he takes practice really seriously. I love his dad. I love that he has a German mom. - He's got a mom. - I fucking love Aman Ra. - We've been fans from. - Day one. - Day one. - I love Aman Ra. - Day one of this guy. - I want to talk about him four years on TV. Five years. - I want to go lift with his pops. I know he's doing it on the way. I think he's dad might break you. - He might, dude. He might break you. He's dad. - Oh, he's putting up. He's putting up Ronnie Coleman numbers. He's, I mean, he's fucking Mr. Universe. - Legit. - He's. - Shout out to Papa St. Brown. Papa St. Brown. - Papa St. Brown. - Mama St. Brown, too, there. What a family. Equanimous Aman Ra, like, I love him all. - I know. I mean, that was, that was a fun interview. - Hey, man, we gotta go golf with him. - We gotta, we gotta see what. - Seven would look to the seven would people. - It's sweeping golf. - Everyone loves the seven would. - Everyone loves the seven. I'm the five would guy, but maybe I gotta get in there. - You know, I did Eli's podcast, or I didn't wanna Eli's things. And, you know, when you do anything with the mannings, they always send you like really great gifts. I don't know what it is. But like, anytime I've done anything with Peyton or Eli, I get like three days later, I'll have like a club, or I'll have like a sick bag sent to my house. He asked me what, what club I wanted. I go, I wanna try that seven would. So I got the seven would, seven would is pretty tight. - The mannings are like dang Santa Claus out here. - Hey, they're like Santa Claus. - They do it right. - The mannings are Santa Claus. - In quarter-zips. - In quarter-zips that are really tall and really skinny. - Oh my gosh. She's Louise and Steele Super Bulls from us. - Yeah, freaking. - Kinda like Grinch in that aspect. - Yeah, he's a Grinchie. - I love him though, he loves the mannings. - I love the mannings. - Joel's it's that time of the week. Football is back. We lasted a whole two days without it. Thank God, it's Thursday. And we're heading to the AFC North, baby. Pittsburgh, Cleveland. A battle of two in one teams. Both coming off, greedy wins. How are we feeling about this one? - You know, when I saw this, I was thinking of TGIT. Thank God it's Thursday, but it brought me to TGIF. Thank God it's Friday and back in that slate. What was like the first show? Step by step and both these teams right here are step by stepping up to potentially decent football teams. I think this is gonna be a really, really good game. I watched that Browns game against the Panthers and that defense without Miles Garrett is still flying around and making crazy plays. They stuffed the run last game against a Panthers team that was kind of firing on cylinders. All of them, the first two weeks. - Amen. - But then you have Pittsburgh on the other hand who finally has their offensive game of the year so far. - They're back. - Three, they're back A-Rod over here slinging it. - Slanging it. - So those first two weeks. - So I think this is gonna be such a fun game. And then getting back to the Browns. - The Sean is playing like in, he's kind of looking like that five year ago, the Sean. Like they still have definitely a lot of things to clean up. But they have a lot of playmakers on their offense. - They really do from Junkins, the Boston to Judy. I mean, and even some of those guys haven't really been going. - The new tight end, 44. - They're in, oh my God, he's great in the red zone. - And been unbelievable. - Munkins got these guys like, he's got a confidence with this Browns team that's like really under the radar. - I was just gonna ask you. Is he the guy to shift that culture? - I don't know, it's still week three. But right now, you know, they got a little two game heater which that's something you don't say much for the Browns. - That's true. - What's the over-under on the season for them? I think it was like four games. - It was pretty low. - Let me look that one up. But I mean, he's really, and coming up from that, that first week shall lacking. I mean, Jacksonville put him down 34, 10, whatever it was. Then you go down to Tampa, you grind out a win with a weather delay. - A huge win. - A comeback win. - Another fourth quarter win. - But that's just an out of Tampa game. That's a game against Baker, the guy you let go that has a little success going into this. You know what I mean? - A Baker revenge game. - Over-under was five and a half wins, by the way. - Five and a half. - I mean, I think we're on pace now. - I will see. It's still week three. But this is gonna be a great game. And I think the Browns are gonna win this game. - I kinda do too. I really do. At home, the dog town's gonna be dog. And I think, is the dog town? Are they, are they with the Sean now? - After these two wins, I think they might be. - The Boobards might be silent. - Are they? - I don't know. - We need a Cleveland correspondent here. - I couldn't, I couldn't get a, I couldn't get a good read on it through the TV copy of if the Boobards were out. - I couldn't either. James Hardin was there, Cleveland legend, James Hardin now. Leven and he said, "Let's go to Sean, come on to Sean." I don't know, he's got James Hardin support. - He got, you know, he's got Hardin support. - I mean, something. I mean, he was, he, like you said earlier, just looked like old to Sean on that game winning touchdown pass, avoiding the pressure, stepping up in the pocket, finding a fan in over the middle. Maybe got a little spark back. - Little spark, but so does this pitcher stealers. - Sure do. - Aaron Rodgers, like if you watch his first three games, A, the receivers haven't been open that much. B, when they're open, they've been dropping a lot of balls. C, poopy face, Aaron, he's been out it, but it's been kind of controlled a little lately. So I, and they got the defense. - They're following around. - The defense with JJ, or TJ Watt. - Take away King. - Take away King. I just, this is gonna be a really fun game. These Thursday night games, these matchups have been kind of, kind of cool. - I think so too. And just like last week, these are ones where you got to look a little below the surface. Last week, Atlanta, Green Bay, crummy game, look a little deeper. Look at those storylines. These are intriguing matchups, folks. I like these too. We got two in a row that are a little dig deeper type games. Dig deeper and kind of think about the past, because both these quarterbacks, like six years ago, were flying high. - Yep. - Now they're resurging. - Amen. - Both had their best game of the year last year. That's what you wanna see. I think this is gonna be a treat for Thursday night. It's gonna be ultimately about the team that can prepare the best with the least amount of time going into a Thursday night game. Like that schedule. I don't know if people really understand that. It's a hard schedule. You go in on Monday after your Sunday game and it's already a Wednesday. Everyone heard Kyle Shanahan breaking down the Australia. Well, football guys, we're all creatures of habit. Like he said, you know, the schedule on Wednesday, the schedule on Thursday, and the schedule on Fridays, pretty much the same as far as how much work you're putting in what you're going over in those practices throughout the whole season. On a Thursday night game, it's more mental practice. You get in on Monday, it's now Wednesday. You come in on Tuesday, which is typically your off day. Now it's Thursday. Usually Monday, you're doing the move the field. You know, all you're moved the field stuff, which is your plays in between the 20s. Thursday is usually an introduction to your third down plan. Friday is usually a little a bit of everything. Your third down plan, plus adding in your red zone plan. And then Saturday is usually a mental day where you walk through everything. But on a Thursday night game, those everything's kind of like a Saturday because you're not going to have very much physical practice because guys are still recovering from the game. So you're going to have like mixed days where they're like Saturdays, but they have to be like Wednesdays with the amount of practice that you're doing. But they're going to be walk through tempo because guys are still recovering. So that's the hardest part about playing in these Thursday night games. Who can mentally prepare the best without the physical activity? So it's really about who's buying in, who's buying in and not taking that lightly. Like, all right guys, we just have a freaking walk through tonight. Yeah, you know what I mean? You got to go in with the purpose and that's who usually wins these games. It's usually a simplified game plan because there's less time. You're going to see teams do what they do, do what they do well. And, and, you know, it was always, it was always great to have them early in the year. Oh, yeah. And then you get a little, a little mini buy after that. You get a little mini buy. So, you know, I think both these teams after this game, they're going to be looking forward to that little baby buy because whether you win or lose, you know, both these teams coming off a win. You know, you go in, you get a little baby buy after win, but after a loss, then you got a little time to, to get back on the tracks. Don't write. Did you like Thursday night games as a player? No, no, no. I mean, if I felt like it, we always played the jets in a Thursday night game early in the season with color rush Jersey, color, color rush. But it was always like a shitty weather game like kind of rainy kind, like your introduction to like the first kind of fall cold rain. It was always like I just, and it was always a dog fight, regardless. Always, you know, especially in the division. These teams know each other. Oh, yeah, like very well. I mean, just look at the last. I mean, there's six and six split over the last 12 against these two. Six and six split after the last 12. I'm going with the Browns at home in the dog. I love it. Deshawn, Jenkins, Freaking Monkins, got the boys kind of looking like a, like a pretty good football team. This is what you want to see from your team, you know, improving each week. And that's what you can say about Cleveland after these last two on two game heater. And you could say the same thing for Pittsburgh, having their best game offensively and, and their defense doing what they do. But I like the Browns at home in the dog pound shout out Cleveland. Let's go. Let's go. Northeast Ohio. Shout out, shout out Northeast Ohio, baby. All right, moving on, Jules, let's take a quick minute to recap some of the stories from around the league that we might have missed since we saw you guys on Monday. First up that wild Sunday night football game. What a game that was LA Denver Denver comes back 30 to 26 stout scores. I'm 30 to 10 in the second half. The officiating was a big storyline, leaving this one. Jules, what did you think about this bad boy? Taylor two halves for real. Which is almost expected with the Broncos. Now it is. I feel like they're a second half team all the time now. Like they can never get a rhythm. Denver can never get a rhythm going early. They're in and I was talking with my agent about it. And I was like, I think it's because Sean Peyton and Webb now who's calling plays. There's such game plan coaches that they do what it takes to win a game. So they're throwing out like they're throwing out plays early on in the game. That they're trying to see what looks that that defense is going to play to that specific formation, that specific personnel group, those kind of things. And then they probably market on their little book or their little, their little note pad. And then they come back to it. And that's when they start ripping guys. And also I think just bonics. I, he likes to play like in that no huddle. Like when he doesn't have to think kind of mode. We're playing fast. You can get guys to the line of scrimmage that muddle huddle. Like I feel like provisional. Yes, he does that. And you know, Waddle. Seeing him out there and going out. What do you have the touchdown in the back of the corner? Yeah, that was man. What a great toe tapper body control over the guy's head. That was incredible. Waddle and then Sutton had a couple big plays late. Really big. You know, uh, but then when you look over on the other side with the Rams. That's not what you want to see when you're up 16. Oh, uh, at half time, it seemed like they went into the second half. Like I think we got this one. And being a guy that's played and lost in Denver. That place is a hard place to play. I can only imagine it was rocking. And you can't think that a Denver team's not going to perform at all at home. No, so like I was a little disappointed with that granite. L.A.s miss and Puka. They had a couple other injuries. I think there was someone else. They couldn't get the run game. Really what do we have over here in the runs? I mean, uh, the Rams had 116 yards on the ground. The Broncos though, you put up 30 points and you have 240 something yards of total offense. 178 in the air, 76 on the ground. Like I know they had to pick six. Shout out to Funga, but like it's just finding ways to win. It's not like these big sexy gaudy numbers and 30 points. It's no, I mean, ultimately it was the turnovers for sure that killed the Rams, especially, you know, that I know that they came back and they came. I know that the Rams came back and scored after that pick six. But that was a third and five who Funga reads it, pick six, um, and I, I low key. I loved low, uh, I low key loved how who Funga ran that ball back. If you watch him when he was going towards the sideline, he looked like a punt returner because he skinnyed up the guy who he was, he was, he was, he was about to have an open field tackle with skinny. I'm up means he didn't just, he didn't just run to the sideline and try to juke the guy and give himself only one way to go. If you watch him, he ran and then he saw the guy who was coming at him. He runs directly at him to give himself a two way go and it puts more pressure on that tackler. And so he did that. And then it gives you that opportunity to cut back because you have the option to go outside as well. I mean, he was a great runner. He reminded me of Troy Pallamalu. Ooh, it was fun, but this game came down to the last drive, right? Yep. And those two penalties didn't like him. Didn't like him one bit. I was going to say, what did you think of that? The passenger appearance, the negating the, the game ceiling interception was kind of the, the talk of the town, if you will. Yeah, I thought that was a horrible call. Pretty soft. I mean, when you got the, I thought that was a horrible call. Yeah. And then the illegal hands of the face of the line of scrimmage on another third down. I mean, let the boys play, but I did have a theory about this. Ooh, let's go. I love the theory. I think the officiating staff is still in their own head about how they fucked Sean Peyton against the saints against these ramps back in the day on that no call. There's layers to this. And so like, I think maybe I don't know he's got me got a couple. He got a couple of big calls six years later. It's like you go to the sub place and you got a punch card for a free sub. Yeah, he got a lot of makeup called a free sub on that one. And he boy did he get him. He cashed it in big time on prime time. I mean, you look at this stat is just unbelievable. The ramps are called for five penalties in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter, fourth quarter, which is tied for most by any team in a game since 2000. Yeah. Five penalties in the last two minutes. They total 13 penalties in this game. I mean, hard to win with that. It's hard to win with that, but you and then on the other side, one more thing. I got random mind. Play go, let it go. Broncos getting two two point plays is insane. By the way, I don't think people realize how hard that is. Not easy. It's not not easy. Two point plays are so hard. You probably have like four or five plays going into the game. Four or two point possibility on the call sheet. And so to execute two of them against a defense that. Yeah, they're missing Miles Garrett, but they they addressed a lot of a lot of guys in the secondary and note they didn't come through. I thought that was that was like a gut punch. And that was a sign of true toughness. By Denver. They are meant, well, you could say what you want about the starts. They're mentally tough. Oh, yeah, they're mental. That's a mentally tough team. Clearly, Sean Peyton, you know, a guy that's been around this game a very long time, coached in a lot of important games, been in a lot of crazy situations. He's doing the right thing. He got him. I mean, that was a huge win. Big Denver at home, you know, very tough to beat, but two very tough wins at home. Jacksonville came in and punch him in the face. You know, they they jumped up into a lead early. Now the Rams come in. They're 16 and a half and they find ways to win. If they can just figure out how to get that offense going early in the game, which I feel like we said that all last year, but they continued to just win. But if they do, they're going, they're going to be a dangerous team, man. Watch out for these guys. Let's get a dangerous team. And and I still think Waddle is only going to get better in the system. Amen. He's still just absolutely going to get better. The longer he's calling plays, you know, there is, there is a little excuse to being a little slow in these starts with a new play collar. And I hate excuses. They're like but holes. They all smell. But it is a valid excuse facts. Let's see how these how these Broncos do on this roadstep. They got coming. up at San Francisco, at L.A. Chargers, oh my, I feel like the chargers are going to have a little, they got it. They got to show a little life here. Got it. Got it. And let's, Sunday was wild when Monday was wild. For many other reasons, shout out to Case Keenam. Case Keenam. How cool was that, man? Seeing him get that 27 to 7 win. He's back. I mean, he hasn't played in a game in a thousand and nine days. And to have the performance he had, like it, it made me think looking at these two teams. Boy, Ben Johnson's the real deal. He sure is. I'm not trying to take any shine away from Case Keenam, but to get a guy, prepared to play against not like a slappy team. Oh, the Philadelphia Eagles are a tough football team. You could say what you want about their offense. You could say what you want about everything going on on that side of the ball. They still win games. You know, that's a winning organization. And it just made me think, like, boy, Ben Johnson's really got these guys believe in the defense, look dang good. Shout out to the fans. Oh, my God. Dennis, I take aways shut him out in the side and shut down the run game. Unbelievable. There's a huge question mark with this with this Philadelphia's run game. Like when they're on, when they're firing on all cylinders, that run game's going. It's just they haven't been able to get it going for like two years. It just seems hard and it's not like they can get to that second level. The line doesn't get to the second level as much as they use to sayquans having to hit, you know, make moves and make guys miss way too close to the line of scrimmage. They got to figure out things over there on that side. But to take nothing away from Case Keenam, Ben Johnson, bears defense. That was like a unbelievable game. That was some Hollywood like movie type type beat last night. It was get out there with him. It was so cool to see Case Keenam after in the post game press conference with his little girl. That was awesome. Really being able to enjoy the moment, which a lot of NFL like he's at the age where he's 38, 39 years old where he knows his days are are coming to an end where he could he could really sit and enjoy this moment and soak it in, you know, I that's what I am. Be great. I never did that, you know, it was always like on to the neck. Yes, it was you know, we got to go here, but that that those those interviews after with his daughters, his wife, all everyone there, the Chicago stands, you know, loving up on Case Keenam. That's a fun team right now. Those Chicago bears are really believing in in themselves right now and and confidence. Confidence is a crazy thing in this league. If you got a confident team, you know, it's it's tough to be done right. It's tough to be didn't turn the ball over and turn over. Maybe like a wily vet to be and the bears are just taking the balls off people like like it was last year. I think they would they led the league and take ways last year. Sure did. They they they get hurts on one than the Andy Dalton episode. He comes in after the big hit. I was ugly the cut the in the concussion. Oh, we got it. Speaking of actual not to cut you up, we got to talk about one of the greatest, the greatest memes so far to hit NFL Twitter this year. This is art, but make it sports showed this or Jalen hurts peaking out of the blue tent looking exactly like John Singer sergeants 1891 man in the blue mantle. I mean, that's spot on. I mean, that's kind of like when I made a grilled cheese once and I saw Jesus Christ. Say I remember that. Yes, I remember that. We're like people. People say Jesus everywhere. Potato chips staying on the wall everywhere. Yes, I exactly the same working art. Hey, we know culture on this is this is this is art. Our first John Singer sergeant. It isn't I mean, it looks pretty damn that is spot on spot. It Jalen won the same after that. He wasn't the same after he came out of the blue tent. I didn't think. No, they weren't. I mean, that's all out of whack. I feel like we feel like this about the Philadelphia Eagles every year through week five. Yes. Like, ah, what's their identity? Identity. Oh, they're getting a tough win here. A tough loss there, but they're still in it and then they get on a roll. And they see Rihanna says something that people don't like it. They're like, boy, man, it's just Ben Johnson in his play calling. They got the offense line, which is a strength of their team rolling. They get the run game going. Then you get these wide open guys on these play actions that case key number and case key number really great in the pocket. How he manipulated the pocket really stepping up. Look, Sprite. Didn't look a day over 35. Yeah. I don't know if he looks right. You did have that run in a touchdown, but I love that with the fake pulling guards. He dies forward. That was awesome. But that was a product of a really good game plan. And guys going out next seclusion because they're confident darn right. That was that was a fun game. Even though it was kind of a blowout. It was still a fun game. Good story lines for sure. Great week of ball to end on Sunday and Monday night. But we got to talk about the big news around the league. It's me. J J leaving that NFC North going to the NFC East. Traded from the Vikings to the giants for a fifth rounder. What do you think of this one? I saw the meme going around. Do they have buyers remorse after the case kingdom game. Like, man, we've after case goes out lights it up and literally trade for him. It might be a little buyers remorse. We've all suffered from, you know, I I don't know. Kevin O'Connell is supposed to be a guy that can get quarterbacks going. And and you know, he couldn't get J J going. How do I reach this kid? It's good. Yeah, I don't know. You know, it. Look, the hard ball is that their brothers. Maybe he's got a little Intel from Jim. John called Jim. That's true. I was yet Michigan center. I don't know how I would feel. If I was Jackson Dart. I'm yeah, it's weird. Like, even though Jackson Dart's been in the blue tent so much where you got to kind of make a backup plan. But like, I don't want my backup plan to be a guy that was drafted three years ago in the top five. Yeah, there's a first. I don't know. Yeah, I don't or top 10. It's weird. You're right. So it's it. How is it going to mesh in that locker room? Like, you know, scataboo. What's he going to act like? Because you know, him in darker boys, is he going to be kind of like super protective? And then where's James is going to fit in this? Where's James going to fit in this? But look, if he goes out and he lights it up, it could could be a great thing. But, you know, I don't know. For me, you know, you got Nagy who's the offensive coordinator. You got Roman over there who's on that staff. Can they get him going as in JJ McCarthy? Right. Kevin O'Connell can. I don't know. I was going to say, is this one of those situations where a change of scenery might help a guy? A la Baker, a la Darnold, both very rich men. That's what everyone's assuming now. Yes. So that's what we're hoping for best case scenario. What do we? So nine Jackson, dark six, do we call him that 69? The quarterback room? Like, what do we? I know. Grunkwood. Shout out, grunk. No, grunk. We got to get him to give it the official stamp. Grunk. Grunk's kind of right with the whole second most important position on the team could be the backup quarterback now. It truly is. As many as we're seeing this year. Oh my God. We've been seeing this for the last like five years. I know. But through three weeks, like, we've got an onslaught of backups. We've seen this a lot in these last five years. A lot of backups playing. Amen. So you got to lean on the depth of the roster. We'll see with JJ. I wish him the best. This could be a really good thing for him because it is a change of scenery. Boost his confidence. Maybe, you know, a new voice in his ear that will help him get going. Let's go nine. Come on nine. But is he going to start right away? I don't think so. I was just going to ask you when do you think we'll see the first start from JJ? I mean, it all depends on how he doesn't practice for me. Yeah. You know, I think the coaching staff has to see it in practice. They're not just going to throw him out there. No, I was going to say and I mean, James is coming off a win. Yeah. I can't. I mean, I was a gritty win, but a gross gritty win in the weather against a struggling Titans team against a struggling Titans team. But a win nonetheless. A win nonetheless. We wish you a well nine. We wish you a well kid. Let's go learn from James and next jewels. We got to talk about this. Another one sweeping the internet. And I really want to get your take the tough ball boy. This guy, he's in the right to me. This is the ball boy. He's going viral after refusing to hand over Travis Hunters first career interception. He stood his ground. Good ball security. What do you think of this moment? That's a patriot. He pushed him back. Yes. You know, he tried to peanut punch him. What? What did you make of this whole scene? I love, I love that my ball guy, I love ball guy fighting for the ball, but bro, it ain't your ball no more if it's been picked. I was just going to say, wait, yeah, who's in the right here and who's in the wrong? I think, I think the ball boys in the wrong, oh, like I understand there's only a probably a certain amount of balls that quarterbacks, like they have their seven to 10 balls that they pick right for the game. And sometimes quarterbacks hate giving those balls up even on this. I bet. But kid, kid, bro, give them the ball. Okay. Give my guy the ball. They ended up retrieving the ball and giving it to Travis Hunter for the career interception Liam Cohen said, but they worked something out. I don't know what happened. It reminded me of when the barstools, the barstool guys were getting on a shifter about it. So, yeah, so that's what like the little it is. What are we doing? Oh my God. I mean, you can't, you can't fault the ball boy. He's doing his job. He's doing his job. He's taking pride in his job. That's his role on team. He's like, F that, but bums. I wonder what double J and the boys would say about this. Because this is a Patriot staffer. He's a ball boy for the bats. Is that a Patriot guy? Yeah, that's a Patriot ball boy. Let me, let me see this guy. Do we know him? I don't, he hasn't been named. I didn't even realize that was Pat guy. Yeah. Kind of crazy, right? Look at him. He's out of here. He touched that. He said ball security is job security, bubs. Shout out to him. I want team ball boy. I don't know. I don't know. It's a trick. If you're kind of on team ball boy, bro, it's a national football league, bro, we got, we got to like this like, yeah, what do I mean? Like, that is just such a funny. That is a funny, funny interaction. Right. It really is hilarious. My guys not giving up the ball. The other guys like not taking them serious. It's awesome. The juxtaposition is a while. Oh my God. It is awesome. I think we'll be seeing this ball security's job security darn right? I love it. I love it. It was a funny, I was a funny situation from a, from a tough weekend for the pads to a little bit of a, maybe a glimmer of hope. We got some good news out of New England. AJ Brown was seen walking through the locker room, in cleats with just a small ankle wrap. They say without a limp. Joe's, what do you, what do you make of this? How many weeks are we? I think there was supposed to be six to eight. So we're on the third right now. Yeah, third it. I mean, have you ever had the high ankle sprain like that? I've had a baby high ankle sprain. Those are tough. Those are, those are very tough. And you know, you, you could have a good day on the ankle when you're rehabbing it. It's all about how does it feel the next day. And then when you have these, you could be feeling good, but you'll make a cut and then you feel like you sprained it again, but then that pain subsides and goes away. So it's, it's, it's ultimately about a pain tolerance that AJ is going to have. And AJ is a tough guy. It seems like he's going to be all right. And I think the faster you can get him on the field, the better it's going to be for your quarterbacks confidence, even if he's not, even if he's only 70% of AJ Brown. Oh, yeah. I'll take that all day. It's still a confidence booster for a quarterback that needs, needs to get his confidence back. So I think this is great news. I think it's awesome that AJ's pushing it. Agreed. I think, I think it sets a, I think it tells everyone in that locker room. Like, AJ's, he's here to do some, I think it tells everyone in the locker room that AJ, even though he's superstar, even though he's, you know, a very high pay, like he's out here and he wants to, he wants to be with you guys, darn right. He's getting back. He need, we need him and he realizes that. Yeah. That's, that's, that's cool. But shout out to AJ. High ankles, man. Those, those are tough. And he's a tough guy. A lot of guys can play. I remember like Patrick Mahomes getting a high ankle in the playoffs, like five years ago. Oh, yeah. And he looked fine. It was great. Like I was like a modern miracle, modern thing is what's that there? When you go high ankle, you don't want to inject quarter zone into joints. Oh, no good. It's, it's like the, the last thing you want to do, it'll bring the inflammation out and it'll make it feel better. But when you start injecting those joints, like I, I've done that. I injected my joint, my ankle, when I had an I ankle, try to get back out quicker and it made it feel better. But it's terrible for like the long term of that ankle, because once you put, you know, that, that quarter zone in there and eats up, they say it eats up the other stuff. Oh, I don't know. It kind of, it kind of eats up that joint a little bit. It'll take out the pain. It'll take the inflammation out. But it's not good. You don't want to do it. Like they say you can only do it once a year. Yeah, don't do that. Come on now. We need you for a long holiday. How about we do some responsible wagering? Yeah. Responsible, baby. Let's do a responsible wager. All right. We, we're, we're looking at our wounds a little bit from last week. Jules. Yeah. So I want to mix it up slightly. I have pulled some lines, opening lines that is that I isolated. I want to get your take on them. This is me, the, the quasi getting responsible, the gambler. But I'm getting responsible. You're bringing the responsible portion of this. Let's start off here. I really like the opening line of jets plus three at the bears until I saw Keis Keenum become Keis Keenum and where the sticks and look like the second coming of, I don't know what Joe Montana over here. This one scares me because you got to kind of want to eliminate this from our list of lines we love. But I think we got to ride the bears and agreed. I think we have to, I mean, it's responsible for us. It is to ride the bears until we can't. This is true. I mean, what were they like, what was the spread last week or on Monday, football? I think it was like, they were three and a half point underdogs underdogs at home dog dogs. They said, Hey, when the thing straight up and we went up at 20 points thing is jets are playing good ball. I know. I'm drinking. Is that school ed or pigs flying? Did I just say that jets are playing good ball? What the hell? I think they are, bro. Look outside. They battled. They are. I mean, he's got a plan. And A.G. knows the bears. He knows Ben Johnson. He knows Ben Johnson, but I don't know, man. That, so I did a, I did a little, I had to do some work. All the Monday night football game was going on. Yep. And so I'm sitting there and one of the guys that's working out the job. He hits. He looks at me. He goes bears are filly. I go filly by a mile. Didn't get to watch like the first like quarter of the game. I see the score. I look and I have to go walk by this guy again. I'm like, Oh, shit. Boy, that screwed me. Let's hope. Let's hope he made a responsible way. He made a responsible wager. I hope we'll start getting to our next one. We're taking bears we're taking bears. We're cutting that one out. That would be irresponsible to take jets plus three. How about Cardinals at Giants? Cardinals minus one and a half. What do you think there? I like Jacobi in this one. I'm liking what the Cardinals have been doing. Not a great wreck, but they've been playing every game's tight, every inch close. They're looking good. Tremac pride. I'm drinking the cool. It burns out. It burns out. I believe they got to be on that D line. James. Can you do it? Can you put two in a row together? I don't know. I don't know. I don't have I mean, he'll give you another good pregame. I think this is a very responsible wager of taking the Cardinals. Okay. I like that. We're getting more responsible here. Another one on our list of possible responsible wagers. Jags, bangles, over 51 and a half. These are two big time offenses. I mean, defenses have been playing well, but I think offense might win out here. What do you think about that? I think this is like a 27 31 kind of shootout. I agree. This is I'm taking the overall and that as well. I like that. Just that's responsible. This the sneaky Jaguars, bro. Sneaky. No one wants to talk about them, but they're fucking good. They are Duval and Liam Cohen, man. Cohen, the offense, the defense somehow gets takeaways everywhere. I mean, they beat the shit out of the Patriots. The item down. They beat the shit out of the I feel weird saying that's loud here. But yeah, but the bangles are also pissed off. And Joe probably isn't happy Joe right now. We want him to be back to happy right now. We want him to be back to happy Joe. Agreed. He probably is definitely not wearing a t-shirt with a mouse surfing a wave on a piece of pizza. So I think angry Joe is going to be good in this to get us a lot of points. I like this that I like that. That's a great recipe for the over and last but certainly not least cowboys at Texans cowboys plus two and a half opening line. What do you think of that? Is that trap city or what? That's trap city. I think so. Let's stay away from trap. That's trap city. We've learned our lesson with those. Yeah. That's just crazy to me. Don't you think? Yeah, I just the Texans. They're very unpredictable. They are and they are very hungry right now. I mean, is it really unpredictable that we can't predict that we can predict that our offense is going to do anything, but predictably unpredictable. It's just too scary. And cowboys coming back from Rio. That's sketchy. I'm with you. It's that's a sketchy game. Let's stay away. Stay away. It's kind of a rivalry. It is the battle for the low and star state there. Let's look at your first parlay. Let's look at parlay jewels. I got a parlay built for us right now. We can slash a leg. We can keep it as it is. We want to get your take on this. Packers versus bucks. Bucks plus three and a half at home. Next rams minus two and a half at Philly. That's another battle of two pissed off team. Wait, so we think we're thinking that, are we taking the packers on that? I was thinking bucks. Do you think the packers are going to go one in four or the bucks go one in three to the bucks go one for that this is a freaking heater. This is a tough one. Yeah, and then last but not least in this one, falcons plus two and a half at saints. And we're taking the saints on that. I was going to say what you think. I was drinking the beans on Kool-Aid human pinnocks got me. I don't do a swap it and go to saints minus two and a half. Yeah, let's go to saints minus two and a half. That would be shucking nuts to not take saints right now. You know what? It was shut guys. Which the only reason I'm doing that is because I made a hefty wager that was probably irresponsible on the falcons a few years ago and they fully let me down and I'm having nightmares. I think I do remember that. But yeah. Rams minus two and a half. Yep. I like that. I love that. I like the bucks getting their first swing at home against a mess of a packers team. I was talking to a lady yesterday about the packers, some some old little lady, not old, but like she was probably like middle aged and she was very disappointed. She's an owner. Oh, she's part of. Wow. Part of many. One of the owners shout out to her. She's, you know, no swear words, but a lot of disappointment. Yeah, those was constantly. They don't swear much. They don't swear behind closed doors, but not out in public. No, but you could tell the fury in her eyes like and she, they don't play. She was saying some crazy stuff like people need to go. Whoa. I'm not going to say it because I don't want to even put that out there. I don't like to talk about another man's job. Never, never, never. Did you ask her where she stood in the La Flora power rankings? I'm not going to even go there. She doesn't like the power of anything over there. No, the floor. Go that. I, this, she's a sweet lady. I know. She's, I mean, sweet baby lady. She's been through it these first. I don't know why everyone wants to talk football with me. It's crazy. She's like, what do you think about my packers? My God, lady. How much time do we have? Yeah. How much time do you got? All right. I like that, Parley. I think we're on to something here. We're being responsible. This is a winner. I feel very confident about this. But it's a responsible winner. We are manifesting. And then last but certainly not least, your jewels. The slot machine of the week. Last week we hit, we hit count as a wash because we had Justin Jefferson got injured. We'll get our money back. We got our money back. The sports books are kind. They're kind to us. I mean, that's great. Come on. Oh, all right. We're going to narrow our scope. I think when you're, when you're trying to find a little rhythm, let's narrow that scope. We're isolating it to one game and that is tonight's Thursday night football matchup. Michael Pittman Jr. over under 34 and a half receiving yards. Don't love it. But kind of think coming back from the foot injury, he got his mojo back a little bit last game. They're going to want to work him into the offense. That's a lot of ifs. I don't know. Jerry Judy on the other hand, another guy who's been a little quiet. I think he's due over 13 and a half receiving yards. That's so low, but it might be that low for a reason. It's like one catch, honestly. Keep going. Only two catches on the year. Keep going. I'm not great. Roman Wilson over under two and a half receptions. This one. I love plus three catches in every game this season. He and a rod kind of clicking that offense is back. I like that one a lot. And then last, but not least, Casey conceptions, I like conceptions, the young buck. His yard is having been great, but he's got four, six and two catches in the first three games so far. I'm going to accept you own. You like that? All right. Four catches. He needs to get what is a three and a half? It is a three and a half. So it's got to get four. I like, I like what they're doing over there. They're trying to get him involved first round or he's had some production. He's had a couple good little spring plays and you could tell that they're trying to get him the ball. Great. That's what I like. He got to start looking for those trends. I like the Wilson one. I want to go with Casey conceptions. I like his name. Kansas City conceptions. We love it. Nice. All right. Very well. Chuck back in next week. See how we did. I think we're going to get on a heater here. We added a responsible heater. Nothing better than a responsible. Nothing better than a responsible, healthy heater. That's. It's a it's a it's an energy efficient. Yes. Heater. Yes. Efficiency. It's all about efficiency. We're not taking too much power. But we're on the heat. Darn right. Darn right. What an episode, brother. Man. What an episode. Thanks again. St. Brown. Brunk and I will be back on Monday. Subscribe to Grunk and Jewel's show on Apple Podcasts Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcast. We'll see you guys then.