‘All the Right Moves’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

the rewatchables is brought to you by the ringer podcast network where kyle brant pops on from time to time uh to do movies we love we're gonna explain the story behind this movie but kyle they they promised us we'd have a chance that's all we're hoping for a lucky break is all we're due we can't wait anymore and if we make all the right moves if we make all the right oh man so good all the right moves is next i'm pro football hall of famer brian dawkins and i lived for a long time with something i did not know the name of major depressive disorder i carry sadness and anger because i thought i could handle it alone but i couldn't now i want to make sure others know that that supports me is out there if you're experiencing similar symptoms talk to a health care professional visit mddallies.com to watch my story paid partnership with johnson and johnson brian dawkins is not prescribed caplita lumateperone i needed more from my antidepressant so my doctor added caplita lumateperone proven 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call 888-252-4824 vanduul is now available everywhere in the u.s so you can get in on the sports action no matter where you are including these places and georgia news in cleveland make this your most rewarding season ever with vanduul age and location restrictions apply product availability varies by market see vanduul.com for eligibility gambling problem call 1-800-GAMBLER all right so we have this process with the rewatchables because you have like 50 to 60 movies that you absolutely love and then we've probably done half of them at this point and you sent me a list and it's broken down by decades and you're usually pretty tied into that list and if i throw a curveball movie at you and you're like i don't know it i'm not sure yeah so i floated this one at you you're like i don't know it it's like all right nine months pass cruise is back in the news with digger cruise just in general we've this this will be the 19th cruise movie we've done awesome and i was like you know what i can't accept that you don't know this movie i'm forcing you to at least watch this movie give it a whirl and i gave you the synopsis you're like you're right i should check this out how'd it go bill it's like when you you have like a really good friend and you have another friend and you don't know why those two people aren't friends and you're like i'm telling you he's a good hang like you'll like just give him a chance and i hung out with all the right moves all week and it's like we're not friends we're brothers like i didn't even know i had a brother bill but you introduced him to me yeah um i got my letter jacket on i went in the closet and found it in solidarity with the empire it looks great it's i'm so excited and bill like i don't want you to get rattled or anything but at some point during this pod i'll try to give you a warning i'm gonna try to lift up this desk with my boner so just get ready for vinnie salvucci who's my guy i feel like i've known vinnie my whole life and i'm so excited so this movie came out in 1983 and it's a it's a 90 minute high school football movie set in coal miner land pennsylvania starring a young tom cruise yeah and i've seen it a million times and i couldn't accept that you didn't watch it it's got it it checks a lot of boxes for me we're in a blue collar world coal mines pubs with pool tables and guys with bad mustaches uh just getting mad at people just people repeatedly saying this is my way out we're gonna get out of here so we have that over everything and then the football is really good and i really feel like this movie um paved the way for some other things that have happened over the last 40 plus years most specifically friday night lights which came from a book but i think the the prototype for friday night lights you can feel in this movie right 100 friday night lights is the texas version this is the western pennsylvania version and i would set the table like this i have a story from this week that i think is really cool i think this movie is incredibly respected and credible i think it's real just this week like three days ago bill i'm at work i'm on a tv set and bill cower was there oh bill cower who's a great guy who i love talking to steelers icon hall of famer and i'm talking to bill during commercial just randomly about like pittsburgh stuff he's again i'm going there next week i'm doing a thing with jerome and i took a shot and i didn't know if he was a movie guy i go bill do you know all the right moves and his face changed completely he goes oh yeah and i go you like that movie he goes i love it and i go really you like he goes i go why he goes because that's real that is western pennsylvania that's high school football that's the steel mills that's how those people are that is a great movie and i was like oh fuck i can't wait to do this podcast like he baptized that movie bill cower loves this movie this is something we talk about with the rewatchables a lot when we do movies from the 70s and 80s really specifically where these movies the people feel so real and it feels like they go into these areas that you know i'm living in the northeast i don't know what it's like to live outside of pittsburgh and have my whole family work in mines and stuff and in 90 minutes i feel like i got it i know it's like oh yeah okay you're on this football team you might there might be six scholarship kids that come out of here all of them want one all of them would literally put their life on the line to win the championship and they're like oh yeah i'm living in the northeast i don't know what it's like win this one game against walnut high and if it doesn't work out they're probably heading toward those mines and by the way the mines are laying everybody off and all these different uh work sites and stuff the town's like going in the wrong direction and this movie hits all of it it's like basically the tail end of the industrial revolution but it's also like here's what football can mean to a small city a small town like this and i'm always in every single time and i don't know why we don't do this anymore i don't know what went wrong i don't know where hollywood's hollywood went sideways i think now if they had an idea like this it's probably a tv show yeah it's a series and it's and we probably have a whole bunch of extra 2020 stuff that they would throw in there and the coach would be having an affair and the boosters would have info on him and you know teammates would be a love triangle they'd be this is just here's steph he wants to get out he's got this girlfriend who won't give it up to him she's in the band coach wants to get out too they gotta win this one game they don't shit goes wrong and there are consequences and we're done in 91 minutes it's simple it's like old-fashioned apple pie man just simple ingredients now it's like they would do a series and at the end of the first episode they would reveal that steph is actually a superhero he's one of the green lanterns and he can fly and you're like oh well that's kind of fucking lame uh steph steph is instantly relatable and instantly likable yeah and my take on that is that like you're going into this movie and you're like hold on a second our boy cruz is playing a serbian american all right we're already five yards back that's a that's a false start penalty it's first and 15 you're already taking on water you lost me already and still they still move the chains it's so incredibly effective and economical in the first 30 seconds all right we're in steph's room he's got a hot girlfriend he's a smart kid he's an engineer he likes football prom photo don't forget the don't forget the prom photo the prom photo right over the bed steph does push-ups in his room and like god i fucking love this movie he does wide grip and then into close grip and i'm like steph is a freak he's attention to detail he's a great athlete and then he's doing his homework at breakfast and i'm like okay he's smart bill this is 30 seconds into knowing the character i've seen marvel movies two hours in i don't know shit about the character it's so well done you left out one key part of that opening first minute was steph wakes up gets out of bed he's fucking jacked right just absolutely all-time tom cruise ripped opens the curtain this is so good just longingly looks outside to just smoke coming up and you know blue collar houses all over the place and you could just see him being like i gotta get out of here and that's how we wake up right into right moves right into push-ups right he even knew back then like he's the king of character entrances i remember when i was a kid i was like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god i'm like when you and me and cr did days of thunder yeah and it's like randy quaid and the fellas are waiting around the track and they're like so who's this new hot shot driver we're here and about and then he's on a motorcycle like through the smoke yeah that that's amazing this was years earlier he's still like blanket off eight pack abs shade up like he looks like a fucking movie star from the first shot it's great yeah we got to go through the cruise and i want to go into the football after this but tom oh i got so much 19th rewatchables now he's got a five movie lead over anyone else some people are saying he'll never lose it like this might this this will just be the lead for the rest of our lives it's so funny watching this cruise and then 43 years later digger in the makeup cruise but by the way digger seems like it's circling back there's now a digger hive there's a bunch of zags with ziggers well affleck's soundbite on it yeah really resonated where he's like this is like high school bullying all you assholes want original movies here we have one and you're just making fun of it so good luck enjoy your superhero movies like he had a whole take on it which i really respected i feel like i have to support the movie i still haven't seen it 1981 he's in taps it stands out it's a timothy hutton sean penn vehicle but cruise is kind of the wild card that movie 1983 he makes four movies that come out in the span of eight months the outsiders where he's like the seventh lead he's barely in it losing it classic raunchy teen 80s comedy he goes to mexico to try to get laid shelly long shelly hey jackie earl haley august risky business just takes off off it becomes the 10th biggest movie of 1983 and he immediately becomes a star and whenever this happens you end up with like a julia roberts type thing where pretty woman comes out a year passes and then i think her next movie was either sleeping with the enemy or dying young but it was like a year after and there's like the hype machine's going she's a celebrity now and then it's like that one where people are just going to go regardless what it's about all the right moves comes out three months after risky business i know so they imagine they hit lightning in a bottle i saw in the theater um with a with a bunch of friends from it was either eighth or ninth grade and uh and we went because of cruise that was it what there was no other reason it's like the risky business guys in this it's got to be good so you and you and a bunch of your eighth grade friends were in the theater for like the leah thompson all the boobs yeah making making jokes whistles all kinds of stuff yeah um also cruise 1983 gets into princeton and cal poly same year in two different movies overachieves risky business he has to have the the call girl party yep and then cal poly basically has to guilt trip the coach and uh and have his girlfriend involved but anyway uh i i wrote this down kyle brant tell me you wouldn't think if i asked somebody who had the greatest single year of high school movies ever they would list i think 30 people before cruise but if you actually go through the imdbs yep two high school movies same year it's really only anthony michael hall with breakfast club and weird science in 85 everyone else is year to year like molly ringwald amelia west of his name anybody michael j fox do teen wolf and back to the future was that the same year oh that's pretty close wait a second was back to the future 85 or 84 or now i gotta look at 85 now so he has the title then i mean that's that that's that's a hell of a plus he's doing family ties at the same time i i think those are the years yeah i'm gonna look that up for sure all right so cruise is second so michael j fox if that's true i'm just going through imdb to make sure yeah that would be 85 teen wolf back to the future so i would put that over over risk yeah that that's that's gotta win so cruise is second but still you would never you don't think of him as like a not at all high school movie actor and yet he made two like iconic ones yes and iconic movies that are also like full of sex like like graphic horny rated sex horniness this one it's like if you show up looking for the football here you're gonna get some but this it's kind of like a teenage horny movie with the side of football i really do think that it's a lot of that yeah that car scene where they're parked on the cliff you're like oh boy yeah you're watching this movie at like your girlfriend's house on vhs in 1984 not knowing oh no oh no i don't want to step on it but i don't know if you or craig have like the um he got game prostitute award for like the scene you can't watch with your parents oh they no way yes i rewatch you can get through some but not these i rewatched with my dad last night i watched it twice this week second time just fast forward over both of them like hey even as an adult yeah i was like i'm not just not watching this with you period um this movie combines i wrote down a bunch of cruise tropes yeah yeah so we get the drunk speech near the end of the movie when he's with the high school buddies it's basically cocktail he's doing the and rule number five i don't even know we we didn't get the first four rules about but we have that we get the cruise trying not to cry face right after he gets kicked off the team jerry mcguire we get the he didn't quit you quit which is the little colonel jessabish yes you cut these guys out guys lose we get the going off on the coach near the end outside he's like you're just a typing teacher very similar to that power a little similar to the demi more in the rain and a few good men yes after when they get in the fight and he runs outside and he's like dude galactically stupid um cruise trying really hard to be good at something that he clearly had to practice which is color money cocktail all those this is cornerback there's that one close-up of him in the walnut high game when he's he's doing that like he does a karate stance it's really weird but i like it uh we get cocky cruise during the recruiting trip with terry o'quinn who would later go on to be locked from lost john walk he's like yeah i don't know if your school's for me but that's all of a sudden we're in random rain rain man days of thunder territory and then the celebrating at the end after he gets in i feel like that's been in five cruise movies it has what about anything um no i i had a like a um a completely separate point but to supplement yours yeah being like new friends with this movie when he's sitting there at the kegger and he's just spouting off and drunk i was like jesus is tom cruise are like our most accomplished drunken actor he's fucking drunk in every movie there's so many of them and like i was going to do this for hot take was not even hot take cocktail it's like dare to dream big drunk when he's doing shanley lace on the fourth of july he's torn apart war war veteran drunk the firm he's horny drunk walking home on the beach in the canons when he runs into the hot girl like horny good men is we're fucked drunk because uh malcolm markinson committed suicide jerry mcguire yeah i just lost avery and kush and i'm gonna shoplift the pootie from a single mother drunk and then one of you even mentioned i don't think it's done the rewatchables last samurai i'm the white savior and i'm begging for sake from the samurai's drunk he's hammered and what's funny bill is that like i don't think he parties like i don't think tom cruise has gotten wasted in a long time he's like he's a clean liver but he's drunk in so many movies in so many different ways i'd go further i don't it's unclear if he's ever had a drop of alcohol you know what i think if you told me he never had a drop of alcohol i'd be like i believe it i would have believed it too i i was in my kitchen 20 minutes ago i just go hey does tom cruise drink alcohol and she was like tom cruise does not drink alcohol because he likes to be healthy for his stunts he has an occasional celebratory drink and i was like so that's basically no but that's what she said interesting yeah i'm gonna say he's never tasted it can we bring producer craig in because i'm bringing him even though we're on zoom i i feel like we need multiple times do you think tom cruise has ever had a drink of alcohol craig i think i think performatively in the 80s and 90s much like the character in this movie when cruz is out with the guys i think and everyone's ordering beers i don't think cruz is not gonna get a beer when he's out with his other actors because he's gonna feel like he has to do yeah like he's gonna not fit in in some way did you see that video recently of mark zuckerberg trying guinness and he's like choking it down like he's drinking poison i think that is maybe what cruz is doing but he's definitely ordering a beer i think i mean though the all-time winner of this is vin diesel in fast and furious because he just clearly just had never drank so he would drink the beer bottle and he would tilt it all the way up all the way i'm gonna do it and you just like the corona bottle the mechanics of the corona but he can't quite figure out where to hold it um right wait craig before you before you go can can we talk about cruz as a cornerback what you saw because i know you'd never seen this movie you're gonna save your ultimate take for later but just steph georgevich um in the combine what were your thoughts well he's he's very shifty i mean he he claims in the movie the character claims 510 yeah yeah cruz i have it in what stage is the worst 5657 i sent this over text i think this is this the only time cruz has ever said his height in a movie or in real life gotta be has to be 510 which i think is as tall as you can get without people getting upset i think he couldn't if he if he said 511 or six feet i think people are pissed but to me look cruz he's an energy guy he's an energy guy he's an energy guy i see him more as a punt returner like a caden weijin the guy the steelers just got little white guy speedy i don't think the mechanics are there at corner but like he's full energy what did they say he hits like a truck yep to me he's like a He's a 10-year special teamer. Yeah, my thought is I wondered why they just didn't do Wes Welker with him. Just make him basically like tweeter in varsity blues, like just an unbelievable slot receiver, and they have this crazy three-receiver offense, but then he also plays corner. They make it seem like he's Darrell Rivas. His pick six, the running is not bad. He bounces off people. It's why I see punt returner because he could have been a wide receiver. The yard after the catch ability, not bad. But Kyle, the diving tackle, Kyle played football all the way through college. The diving tackle on the first Walnut High touchdown when Cruz misses him, I thought was his single most impressive football thing in the movie. Yeah, because that's you want to show up on tape like you left maximum effort. You just dive because it's going to look good on film. With a good skid, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. But there's something, I'll just get to it now. There's so much about the football that I like here, and that really is genuinely realistic high school football. The thing that fucking kills me about this movie, it's preposterous that neither Steph nor Brian Riley plays offense. It's so, I can't stand it. Oh, I had, that was my biggest nitpick. Come on, what are we doing? There's 37 guys in the team. He can't play receiver? You got a full ride to USC and you're not playing center or fullback? You're not the tight end? It doesn't make any sense. Brian Riley's not coming in on third downs? It's ridiculous. It really kills the movie. How many corners were wearing neck rolls in the 80s? Was that common? Oh, God. The neck rolls are like basically the first on the call sheet for this movie. It's neck roll, Tom Cruise. There's so many neck rolls in this movie. I just, it's, everyone has one. The fans have them. The cheerleaders have them. You know why? And I just think you weren't taking the field without one. You know why? This is 83. This is the heyday of Steve Grogan. This is when he really unleashed it. He was like the first person who made it. You can be on either side of the ball and wear a neck roll. I know. It's so cool. I still bought Cruise as a undersized, but frisky, hits like a truck, high school cornerback. I don't see him going to UCLA or Miami or any big school. Like he clearly at least realized he was too small. The Brian Riley piece, who seemed like he was about an inch taller than Cruise and not really jacked, playing middle linebacker at USC, that one, I thought that was way more unrealistic to me. Well, they tried to compensate by giving him the largest shoulder pads that have ever been manufactured, ever. His shoulder pads are giant. Giant, giant. But I would say the 5'10 thing, that's something obviously Cruise would never have that dialogue in a movie now. He was young and innocent. And it reminds me, Bill, is when we did Hard to Kill, there's a part where Mason Storm has come back and he's catching up about his son and like hearing about him. And his guy, Mally's like, yeah, and he's telling him about his kid's life. He's like, runs on the track team. He's got his old man's speed. Like to Mason Storm, like his kid is a great runner. Mason fucking Storm is a great runner, his kid. Yeah, come on. That's such a, like a not reading the room. The same thing with here with the 5'10. All right, Craig, I'm bringing you back in a little bit. Yeah, Craig. The Craig T. Nelson piece of this. Let's go. So he becomes coach, literally, in the TV show Coach, which is called Coach and plays Coach forever because he was awesome as a coach. Craig T. Nelson, red hot after Poltergeist. He'd been around. He'd had some cups of coffee. He knew who he was. He'd been in TV movies. And then Poltergeist comes out. He's the dad. And this is his next movie. And it's both an awesome football coach performance. And he's also reprehensible. And I don't, all these years later, I'm not sure where I've landed. But you, a recent friend of this movie, where'd he land? I got all kinds of things that I like. First of all, there's a really cool thing that, like we're recording this on Friday. Mike Dicka died a week ago. Mike Dicka's roots are in Aliquippa High School, which they mentioned a couple of times in this movie. And it's like really representative of how he grew up. And I saw in some of the Dicka memories, they referenced this type of movie and this type of football and all the coaching. And Craig T. Nelson drew inspiration from Dicka. But Bill, I have a thing, things I wrote down about Coach that I like. I love that he keeps grabbing his players' face masks. I had that down as well. It's such an old school move. It would never happen now. It would be frowned on. The parents would complain he didn't like it. He constantly is, ladies, come on, ladies. This would never happen now. My way or it's the highway, which is literally a line that ends up in Roadhouse. I love that he constantly does the, are there any quitters on this team? They say, no, I can't hear you. I still, like, I still can't hear you. He does that a bunch. And then I love when he's talking about the star running back. He goes, I don't care if he goes to take a crap. You show him the way there. That is all classic shit. And he gets them all in. I like him in this role a lot. And I liked when he does the speech, when he's like, they have a, they have a golf team. Yep. They have a tennis team. Swimming team. Yeah. There are some 80, the two 80s things. I had the same about grabbing the face mask. Nobody's doing that. And then walking into the locker room and calling everyone ladies. That I think went through basically the, I would say the nineties. Cause they would do it in cop movies too. All the time. Cop movies and sports movies. But I thought he was incredibly believable. What do you think? So he's more of like a Mike, Mike, Mike McDonald type. Where would you go? Like a young Pete Carroll? Yeah. Because he, he's not someone who wants to stay in Western Pennsylvania. He's not like, this is where football lives. I want to, he wants to get the fuck out of there. But definitely a defensive specialist as. Yeah. Cause he's not getting the head coach job at Polly. He's coaching the defensive backs. Right. It's the D backs. It's like the eighth coach on the, on the thing. So he's like a lifer going to move 12 times. He wants to get all the way. Pete Carroll is an interesting example. Like it could be something in that regard. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he came up with the 16. You stack. Nobody ever thought about that before. And then you stack monster. When Leah Thompson was the other, uh, the other famous person from this movie. Although I don't know how famous she was when they made it, but, um, I wrote this down. I think my favorite high school movie, 80s girlfriend ever. It's talk about it's her or Sloan and Ferris Bueller. Who was one and done where the entire movie. You're just like, she's great. I know. Wish I could find somebody like that. She's like, she's supportive. She's loyal, funny, plays the sax. So she's got a little bit of the band geek side. Yep. Like clearly like the, the sex piece is meaningful to her and she wants it to be in the right thing on her term. Like you'd feel that way about, um, that's somebody that is probably a keeper. And then, uh, and at the end when the coach's wife is like, you know, he's going to leave, you'll, you'll probably break up. And she's like, I love him. I want like, she, she loves him. She loves him and she wants him to go because it's the best for him. And it's just like, you're the fucking best. It's one of the nicest females I can think of in a movie ever. She is so lovely in everything she does. And like, you feel for her and you root for her. What is it? Like we have the Lisa Letsky, Lisa Letsky. Yeah. Like we have the rose from Titanic for like sneaky worst character ever. This is the Lisa from all the right moves about this is the nicest person that's ever been born. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I'm going to lose stuff. He's going to go to a better life and I'm going to be a grocery clerk. But I'm going to do it anyway because I love him. That's unbelievable. What a nice girl. She might be able to get out too with this. We got to see her play the sax a couple of times. Yeah, maybe so. She's pretty good. Yeah. I'm going to move to New York and join a band. But yeah, she, she, uh, she had a nice run in the eighties. A year later, she's in one of our favorites that we have not done yet. Red Dawn. Oh, hell yeah. Important thing in there and bounced around and then ended up on one of the biggest bombs of all time. Howard, the duck, the duck. Which she ended up, I think, marrying the director of that movie. And then years later, Zoe Deutsch, her daughter becomes like one of the, one of the big rom-com movie actresses of the last 12 years. She, she's been in like, I would say six or seven movies that my wife and daughter have watched a hundred times. That's Leah Thompson's daughter. Wow. And she, I mean, talented family. She's, I mean, obviously then Leah did, she was Lorraine McFly. You should all the back. To the future movies, right? Some kind of wonderful as a movie people love, but like she's. Yeah. I probably should have mentioned back to the future. So good. Yeah. One of the biggest movies of the eighties. But yeah, she, in this type of thing, they only tapped in a couple of times. She's in the wildlife with Chris Penn. Yeah. Which was bad. Um, but she had a nice run supporting cast, including Chris Penn, who I've always loved from this movie and Footloose was always rooting for him. And then true romance. He comes in with, uh, with Sizemore. They play cops. The best. Really. It could have been its own movie. It's so disappointing. They didn't spin that off. Um, rifleman, the quarterback. I have some thoughts on him later. Hold that. I thought you might. Terry O'Quinn is the recruiter. Great to see him. One scene. Leon. As the star wide receiver. That's our guy. All the right moves. Star receiver gets into West Virginia near the end. And they're just like, ah, he always wanted to go to West Virginia. Cliffhanger. Hell yeah. Punch and sly. It's like, oh, you hit like a bitch so good. And above the rim, he's Shep talking to nutso playing pickup by himself without a ball. You hear that nutso and then comes in and lights it up in the end and goes nuts and thing. I I'll say it. I think he's a goaded rewatchables. That guy just those three movies. I think he makes the hall of fame and it makes sure no one is misunderstanding. This is he's one name only. Just Leon, Leon, L E O N. No last name. It's so cool. Pittsburgh area movies. This was a big run right here Because we also had Flashdance Sure, massive Same year, right? Yeah, like the blue collar thing was big Deer Hunter was a few years before That was the same, I think, Western Pennsylvania Jack Reacher Cruz goes back He's in Pittsburgh again And then the hidden one Which we'll do on Rewatchables at some point Before I die Striking Distance with Bruce Willis and Sarah Jessica Parker The Bo-Kop movie Bo-Kop movie Yes He used to be one of the best people in the force Some shit went down He got a raw deal And now he's basically in the Pittsburgh Coast Guard Trying to solve a serial killer thing It's amazing Can I ask you If you fuck up at the Bo-Kop level Then do you go down to Bike-Kop Or is it Horse-Kop? What's below that? Bike-Kop and then Maul I think Maul's the next one They did this for The Wire They relegated McDulty He was basically a Bo-Kop for one year But they. They said in the research Johnstown was where they filmed a lot of this movie Which really needed it They had 5,100 of 7,000 workers Had been laid off The producer brought in a whole bunch of stuff Two million bucks Of extra stuff for the movie The unemployment rate when they filmed the movie there Was 24.8% This was like really This is when like the Springsteen, John Cougar, Mellencamp Kind of music was really resonating Because it was all these towns that were built on This one thing We're starting to fall aside Johnstown Also the location Of Slapshot Now making it the greatest sports movie Random sports movie location of all time Slapshot And all the right moves together The other crazy thing This movie was directed by Michael Chapman Who wasn't normally a director Because he was one of the best cinematographers Of the past 50 years He did Taxi Driver, Raging Bull Did The Fugitive He's like a million things He was like Scorsese's guy growing up Like his protege Right And here he is And that's, listen And you know who shot this movie Let's get into it That's why this movie was so good Tell the people Jan de Bont Directed a little movie called Speed Shot Die Hard Little Twister Prodigy Yeah Like this is why this movie cooks with gas Great director Great DP It looks beautiful Yeah, you have the most overqualified possible people To shoot a football movie in western Pennsylvania So like the Great Shock Order Award for this movie Is clearly the rally Steph finds out that his buddy's Knocked up his girlfriend And he's not going to USA And he's like, we're still going We're still getting out of here, right? And then they set off the fireworks and the confetti And Cruz is just in the doorway With the confetti falling on him And I think that's what they used for the commercial too But it just Everything looks great in this movie Written by Michael Caine It was from a piece that Pat Jordan Really great sports writer Wrote for something called Geo Magazine In 1980 Where he spent four weeks With the Duquesne High School football team And basically this was the angle Like football's your one way out If you don't get out You're going to work at this mill And that's just how it's going to go You said this Undefeated concept I'm bigger than this town I have dreams We see it in Rudy You see it in Footloose Fucking Star Wars is about that Luke Skywalker wants to get out of Tatooine And he has bigger things to do It's a great concept It's very big It's very hard to mess up And I don't see it done better very often Than it is in All the Right Moves Anytime somebody says I'm getting out of here The town even has that with Doug McRae I know Getting out of here I'm going to some random place in Florida So Roger Ebert Three stars Three stars? Okay, I'll take it Really appreciated He wrote After all the junk high school movies In which kids chop each other up Seduce the French teacher And visit whorehouses in Mexico It is so much fun It's so wonderful to see a movie again That remembers that most teenagers Are vulnerable Unsure Sincere And fundamentally decent Raj That's Raj Well, the joke's on you Because in Tom Cruise's last movie He had a whorehouse in his house In the North Suburbs So like I don't know what you're judging We're going to take a break And come back with the rewatchable scenes Ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease symptoms Don't pause for the moments that matter That's why understanding your treatment options matters Discover what's possible with Trimpia Guselcomab Trimpia is a prescription medicine Used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn's disease And adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis Serious allergic reactions Increased risk of infections Or lower ability 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Pittsburgh We get the We can make all the right moves We get crew staring at the window I'm handing him the Dr. Richard Kimball Inappropriate Body Award He's just Absolutely fucking ripped I don't know if Tom Cruise ate food For two months for this movie He's like Sly Stallone Rocky IV level 3% body fat There's 300 categories And it's still one of my favorites We gave it to Chosen And Karate Kid 2 as well It's a great award I forgot about that one So the theme song By Jennifer Warrens and Chris Thompson Were the ones that sang it The lyrics include They promised we'd have a chance That's all we're hoping for Yeah A lucky break is all we're hoping for All we're due We can't wait anymore Great And if we make all the right moves One more time If we make all the right moves We can show them all That there's no way we can lose Okay Let's go They say 83 to 86 We just peaked with bad movie songs And they would do the songs That were the name of the movie This has come up Like we did Just One of the Guys There's this dumb pop song And the one that I know you're into Is No Way Out Right Kevin Costner The Spy Movie And there's a song that's The name of the movie It's so on the nose You don't see it anymore It was clearly a note From the producers Like you got two weeks Right It's something catchy Here's the plot of the movie Can you work that in And make sure you say the title The title of this movie Is No Way Out Work that in The title of the movie Is All the Right Moves If you could make that The chorus That would be great So you have Jennifer Warrens And Chris Thompson Like writing down What if What if If we could make All the right moves Great great Perfect How would that go And then they took it to them And then John Hughes Started getting involved And normally he like Put as many pop songs As possible And Ferris and stuff But then in Weird Science It's Weird Science Right Thomas Dolby got the note It was cool Yeah Put it in there Great opening We have the locker room scene Where they're all dancing Okay Steph It's a classic Like look The white guys And the black guys They're all getting together At one team The coach comes in He starts dancing for a second And then it's like Okay ladies And it's just I'm just always into The locker room And the football seats So when they're dancing And they're hip thrusting Initially Iceman was supposed to come in And say What's your problem Kazansky Like that is like That is the precursor Of the Top Gun locker room scene No question It's just guys in their underwear Thrusting their hips And I love when When Steph is thrusting his hips He's like Yeah this could come in handy Right It's so weird And that hairy guy Who looks 38 Just has a jock on There's three or four guys On this team Who are in their mid-30s Like other people Must have called in sick I enjoy that The recruiting scene Steph has a heat check There's other schools That I'd rather look at first And then the dad gives them The I hope you know What you're doing It's like this is gonna backfire This being cocky About getting a college Scholarship offer Yeah dude You think you're John Elway Yeah Like you're a little corner At five foot seven A Serbian You don't do anything Like in Pittsburgh And he's stiff arming him Very strange choice Hubris The coach's quitter And loser speech And just in general I could have spent Six, seven, eight more minutes Just in the practice field Same Just watching The drills At one point The offense and the defense Split up And I was like Can we just see more Is there like a wide receiver drill I know I sent this to you and Craig There's a shot It's a crane shot An overhead shot Of practice And it starts the scene And it's like It's like a running back And a cornerback And they run Right into each other With the crowns of their heads And fall down It's a startling image Right now Bill Like I'm in the middle I'm coaching Seventh and eighth grade football Tackle football Yeah And like Anytime there's any kind of collision We're like Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Let's slow down Everybody okay Let's separate They got the guardian helmets on I watched that I almost fell off my couch I was like Both those guys are paralyzed At least concussed And they're like Let's go Rub some dirt Let's go It's awesome You said it's I was waiting for Tom Jackson to come in and go, they got jacked up. just a violent helmet helmet thing the uh the quitters and losers speech also steph screwing up yeah and then everybody having to run laps and he's like everybody five laps you you 10 10 laps but um i love that steph there's some sort of miscommunication with the hit where he's clearly it's just complete pass interference you're supposed to be this cornerback that's going div one you're just you're just wrestling this guy down before the ball gets there it's like what do you mean it was a great hit i know i know all right next scene now we're really i i think this stretch of the movie i'm not sure it gets better in the 80s but i know where you're going the bulldogs pep rally where he finds out bry is having a kid yep and also i'd like the prep rally i like the bulldog i like bosco the booster have a lot of thoughts about him later oh yeah i have some questions um so many people there you really get the feeling oh my god this is a really big game but then we go right into the bus ride with the song the last stand by doug kahan i don't know if you have any of his cds i don't but i'm gonna get it now it starts out final life is made of moments the ones you understand victory by inches in someone else's hands so they clearly gave him the notes they were like hey so it's this is the song's the last stand they're gonna be on a bus driving just write down like as many sports cliches as possible about a big game and then record that and send that to us doug kahan's like i got it the bot in this whole stretch is just cooking i know pep rally cooking bus ride wide shots close-ups of the players wide shots again let's go through the bus window and then uh and just the whole the whole stretch we go they're touching the 1960 ball i love when teams have the old ball with the autographs getting taped up salvucci flipping out about the tape roll cruz hitting his head on the wall and then the coach with the crazy speech where he probably crosses uh a line in there at one point i did a full spit tape so whoa jesus christ nickerson you can't say that um they look at us and they see a bunch of losers from a dying town but we're gonna show them that we're gonna win this game we're gonna win this game we're gonna win this game something tonight just an incredible 10 minutes what's your favorite part of this whole stretch oh man i'm getting it the football scene is obvious and it's fantastic bill that bus ride gave me chills that anybody who has ever done anything like that you ride into the other team's town they got the banners up sometimes they have managers like disparaging your high school your mascot everybody's nervous they're listening to their music they had that shot of brian he's got a goddamn tear going down his cheek because he's thinking about the baby but he's thinking he's still got to make 10 tackles in this game uh i actually got like post football syndrome chills watching that i was like back in 1996 positive ptsd positive yes so so well done it was reverse ptsd it just made you happy it it made me so happy and then i mean obviously you you get to the game which is just a fantastic filet mignon of high school football it's so good yeah i wish there was more it's so good it's like i couldn't have gone i you skip right to the last four minutes of the fourth quarter from halftime it's like i kind of wanted to see some of the third quarter we get the cruise dive tackle we get rifleman just canoning one deep to uh to our guy leon we get the cruise pick six i i probably would have done one more take okay all right i i think it's a win i think it's a buy it's a win for the run but the the pass right to cruise the pass wasn't great i i would have been like let's do one more time where you're running in front of the receiver it's just not the only person who's throwing that pass in the nfl right now is maybe cam ward uh-huh which is like i'm throwing it maybe bonex i'm just throwing it right to that receiver all right what comes to mind is we we've said this before about some of arnold's line readings and you're like how's that the one they used and it's like it was the best one they did do one more that's see they did like five that's the best they got and it was a that shot is really complicated and i get it the past looks fake but after the pass it does look very good we need to bring craig back in yeah yeah the pick six right to cruise what was your first reaction i mean it's an easy play like if this guy's a d1 cornerback you have to make it what upset me the most about that play i agree with kyle i thought the run was actually kind of impressive it looked like cruise cruise took on real hits there on the way to the end zone but like you're telling me the best take you got of his celebration is tom is steph yelling in your face walnut heights yeah that's that's the big line in your face walnut heights tough one well then it starts raining and you know who starts heating up for walnut heights camp scat about go on he's camp scott about your he takes over the game and that's he might be a possible dn waiters contestant because you know this is the classic high school football thing where it's like it's kind of not fair you're in this game but there's no chance you're gonna be in the pros but for right now this is lopsided um cruise gets the pi which is just egregious they're calling it every time and he's like it was a good hit bry it was a good hit yeah what the fuck are you talking about and then the goal line stand yep which is awesome and then i need both of your reactions to how coach nickerson then handled the last 12 seconds and what would happen on the internet if this if the current social media blog podcast culture that we have now for these last 12 seconds what happens craig go ahead it's funny didn't this kind of happen in the vanderbilt was it vanderbilt the guy yeah vanderbilt nc state yeah it kind of happened what i loved about this scene is that you never get this in movies because usually you're like everyone watching is like you need to take the safety and punt it's totally fine the next scene at the bar a guy says that he's like what are you doing nickerson he's like just take the safety and punt exactly smart great unbelievable well we know that's why nickerson was never going to be a head coach because he botched this as badly as you can botch it you're in like the half inch line i will say it's it's a really creative way to end a film football game like it's not oh a field goal gets blocked or somebody drops the catch it's we're backed up inside our one do we sneak it or hand it off it's kind of a nuanced scenario for a movie um but to answer your question bill as you know i regularly appear on the program first take now yes so if i was sitting down and shea the the wonderful host was like okay guys so ampipe uh walnut heights botched my last moment steven a what do you think it would i mean he would just be like well you have to fire coach nickerson right he's got to go he's got he's got to go now now and he would walk off set and everything like you would be fired before he gets to the bus if that was in today's so do you think they should have like if obviously i should have been the sports movie consultant for every sports movie that's been made the last 50 years they'd ask me i think they should have been up by one why because then you can't take the safety because then you can't take the safety ah if it's if it's 14 13 although i guess then maybe they would have just kicked the field goal but it's pouring rain yeah so maybe you can't do that you're trying to take the safety option out of it yeah i understand i i don't it's just so egregious i think when i saw this movie in the eighth grade or ninth grade it was egregious then it was like why didn't they just take the safety and punt also i might have been confused was there some like score chicanery that the movie i thought the touchdown it went from 10 to 7 they don't show the field goal no they don't show the field goal no i thought it was 14 to 7 when they get the goal line standing field goal that you don't see because it's boring yeah um i love but i mean like i i don't know if this is a hot take but as bad as it was by coach nickerson i think what dan quinn did last week we might have been even worse and that was at the professional level like we're just ripping from the headlines right now the nc state thing in vanderbilt but also the commander's thing was maybe even worse and that led to a tie all right counter so we know salvucci is the backup running back yeah correct because they give us that info we know salvucci is wound tighter than a fucking violin because he freaks out in the locker room before the game with the tape and uh they put the basically the game in his hands i think you could at least say rifleman should just fall get the snap and fall forward would be the move right because you can't if you just snap and qb sneak you're just you can't go backwards on a qb sneak so i don't know why you're lying and coach is lying in bed then that night he's like oh man i should have had a rifle burn fall forward oh really doctor yeah it's pouring rain he's like he's like 40 to power right on two it's like power right what are you doing i have a my my hot take is about this play but i i guess i should save it for later or should i go now no do it now let's hear it all right my hot take uh today the uh luke wilson could have been cr uh it's it's uh it's vinnie salvucci's fault it's completely at fault for him and i'll tell you why because he does the butter hands whatever well yeah bill you don't know how right you're running back i got into the tape on this anybody who has played one second of high school football knows that when you are taking a hand off right your pocket or bread basket the left arm to be up. That is how it's properly done. I got into the tape. I looked at it. Salvucci has his right arm up. It's totally practically incorrect. Look at that. He has his right arm up. It's incorrect. It's fundamentally unsound. Listen, the Walnut Heights line was getting controlled by M-Pipe for the whole night. They had no problem. You just fall forward. If Salvucci puts his right arm up, they beat Walnut Heights. I think he completely blew it. And I think it was the right call, but he fucked up. So this really would have been a good first take thing, because Stephen A would have said Nickerson gets fired. You zag with the, this was actually Salvucci's fault. Yes. And I have to go bigger than that, though. I'd have to say, not only does this Nickerson not get fired, he gets extended. He's the coach of the year for this. You have to go big on those shows. But I would say they should cut Salvucci immediately for blowing up. And it would be all the Orlovsky film smart guy types would break down the tape of how he messed up the handoff, which I just did. And every high school football nerd out there like me, watch it. Salvucci has the wrong hand up on the handoff. Well, yeah, you could really make the case that Nickerson coached a great game, to be honest. They let us 10 points against Walnut Heights. For some reason, he's the first coach ever to come up with the idea that we're going to try to stop the run, even though Walnut Heights has like an all-state running back. Yeah, well, he's the first person to think of that. They were completely freaked out. They were like, hey, they keep cutting out our legs. I don't know what was happening. I couldn't. I love you more. Bill, I have to bring this up. It's the worst scene in the movie. Yeah, it's the worst scene in the movie where Nickerson is at the chalkboard with his assistant and he starts to see him, but he's like, I've been up all night thinking about this. And he's what he's been up all night thinking about is, well, they have a really good running back. Let's put a bunch of guys up on the line. Yeah. And he's like, and the assistant goes, no one's ever tried it before. But if it works, we're geniuses. Whoa, you're going to do a 6-2 defense. What kind of rocket science is this? It's so bad. That scene kills me. He's basically saying it's a goal line stand for all four quarters. He says it. He's like, we're going to do goal line the whole game, which is like what a 12-year-old does when he plays Madden. Yeah. It's just so bad. Like he, the fact that they could put six there is, is science fiction. No one's like, listen, I got deep into this last night and I was researching six-man fronts in the seventies. Notre Dame won the national title in 1977 with the six-man front. It's not some revolutionary thing to do. And the coach is like, what am I thinking about it? It's so, I can't, that scene kills me. Also tiny nitpick, but it feels like he is the best at coaching the defensive line, not the defensive backs. I'm surprised he's getting a defensive backs coaching job when he, I mean the goal line stand holding them to 10 points, stopping this running back, the goal line idea. Like he should be a defensive line coach. My other, it's a very tiny nitpick. I wish they'd gone wider on the fourth down. Yeah. But it, it feels like, it feels like Chris Penn's character comes over the top with the second. Yeah, he does, but you can barely tell. You can't really see it. So they must add a bad shot. I like that. Um, when Riley finally breaks the big run, it's a draw play. So still it was like the six, two stack monster kind of got fooled. Cause it's not a conventional running play. Yeah. I like that. He also catches the ball on a screen. I'm just going to rattle off like three more things I wrote down about what I love about the game. I love that the kickoff team is in three point stances. Like, patently absurd. So dated. I like that the hike, the bikes are, uh, the helmets rather are bike brand. I like the jerseys are athletic. Bill, you mentioned this, the best halfback in the state is a big chunky white boy wearing number 41. Steph's call on fourth and goal when he's a safety full house, he goes full house, full house, you fucking bastard. And I was like, yeah, and then first snap of the game, first snap of the game, the lineman for Walnut Heights comes out. And it goes, we're coming to your, coming after your ass Riley. And Riley goes, do it, man. Make me happy. And I was like, that's great. High school shit talk. That doesn't sound like someone wrote a line. Who's a screenwriter. That's how dumb high school kids talk. I just really loved it. I got to say every football movie that's ever happened has the scene where somebody on offense taunts the guy that we like on defense in that way. Coming for you, Craig, bring it, man. I'm in the program. The offensive lineman goes up. We're running doggies to the end zone and the trail runs right over your ass. That's fake. No one talks like that. Right. Right. But we're coming for your ass, Riley. Do it, man. Make me happy. That's how I fuck you up, Kyle. Yeah. It's very, it's like six, six words or less. All right, Craig, we're coming back to you later. Uh, locker room scene, tough scene. I, I do wonder if more guys would have been crying after losing the biggest game of their lives, but, uh, Sal Bucci is the one that, uh, is really doing it. But in general, did you ever have a football game where you had a locker room that was that devastated after? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think pretty much every team when they lose their last game in the playoffs. Yeah. Cause it's devastating because you're never going to play the sport again. It's not basketball. It's not baseball. You never, ever put on pads again. After your last game, you're done at 17. It's devastating. So Nickerson gets mad at Sal Bucci. Give it a good cry. Come on. So good. Cruz sticks up for Sal Bucci. They ended up going at it. And, uh, I thought they both made some good points, but it, it, it, it gets, it gets heated. Lines were crossed, but basically Craig T Nelson says, if you would just practice what I taught you, we wouldn't have been down there in the first place. He's not wrong. And then he said, if you just had Reifman hold on to the ball, we would have won also not wrong, but you don't say that in front of your 36 teammates. Kicks them off the team. Won't let them on the bus. Tough times all the way around. Uh, should Steph have stuck up for Sal Bucci? Absolutely. That was Steph being a leader. That was Steph. He was bullying Sal Bucci, like all over him. It was way over the line. And I thought what Steph did was awesome. And I'd love that moment that after Steph gets kicked off the team, he goes to Sal Bucci and they have a dap up. And it's like, that's like, that's my brother. I got you. Like Steph is a martyr then, but he's a, he's never been cooler than in that moment. Next question. Where's Brian Riley during all this? Great question. Beta. Beta. I mean, Brian Riley's got a lot on his mind. He's got a pregnant girlfriend. Like he's, he got worried about Sal Bucci. He's like, he's got other concerns. I needed a second guy to come in and back up Steph. Like, yo man, this is wrong. Like layoffs. Vooch is one of our dudes. Nobody does that. It's basically just Steph only. The bigger question for me, it's beyond a nitpick is why Nickerson handled the adversity this way in the locker room. Wow. How was this your response? Like, Oh, give it a good cry. You choked, you quit, you quit on us. Like who would coach this way in real life? I I'm going to say literally zero people. Nickerson is furious at himself and he knew he blew it and he had it and he choked. And so he's putting it on this helpless kid who we already knows is kind of a loser. So he has this terrible moment of bullying. And what's so great about that scene is it's, it's so well done. I love how they have crews sit in the background by the squat rack against the wall. And you can tell before the scene started, they're like, let's give Tom a few minutes to get into character. And we're like, are we ready, Tom? And he like gives a little nod because he's full tears from the second he gets up. It's a great, powerful scene. I love how they shot it. Well, he pushed Sabuchi toward a felony crime is how this all played out. So it's an armed robbery within a month. A couple more scenes quickly, the Pittsburgh pub scene where they're talking about the game after, which say Craig mentioned earlier. I could have spent another 10 minutes there. Bosco's holding court, playing pool. They're basically doing a pot, like an emergency pod after the game. Well, that beats a pipe shoot. Thanks. Uh, the, uh, Steph goes to apologize the next day and the coach shoots him down. You've played your last game. Yep. You're really fucked. No, no, you are. You are great dialogue. Great stuff. Coach and coach and Steph on the street. When, uh, when Steph gets mad at him, who in the hell gave you that power? You're just the coach. You're a high school football coach. You're not God. You're a typing teacher, which I wrote down as the Billy bats, Jack Waltz award for most biting and scalable insult. You're a typing teacher. A little clap. Yeah. And then the ending where Cruz finds out he's actually going to Cal Poly and we get blue skies forever. Cause they couldn't get Bob Seger. He just was like, I'm not, I don't want to be in it. I'm not giving you any of my songs. They gave the Peter North award to the soundtrack. Like they really tried to bring it so much. So that the credits, which you can't really see if you stream it are bizarre. They lead with the soundtrack before Tom Cruise. Yeah. They're really going for it. What do you have for most rewatchable? It's a tough question. Cause there's like three in the middle of that are all, I mean, it's, I I'm never turning the Walnut Heights game off. I think it's the actual football. It's it's really well done. I agree. Most 1983 thing about this movie. I could give you young Tom Cruise. I could give you virginity as a major plot point. I could give you the opening theme song. I could give you the production company. It was Lucille ball productions. Fucking great. I think that's the winner. Unless you want to say unibrows. Cause there's some fucking kicking old school eighties unibrows in this movie that, uh, almost seemed like a bit, but they're not. And when the unibrow is paired with the high school mustache, it's a fearsome duo. Like it really is. And chest hair level. - Yeah. - But I mean, extreme, extreme deep, I sent this to you on the bus ride to Walnut Heights. The guy who's in the back of the bus for Ampipe is wearing a cap that says Rick Mahoran on it and beef brothers. And I did a Google on the beef brothers with the Washington. That's fucking incredible. In the Western Pennsylvania, Rick Mahoran, Jeff rule and beef brothers hat is, you know what? No NBA team. Who are we going to like? What about the brothers? Rick Mahoran and Jeff ruined. Yeah. The Celtics went against them in the 82 playoffs. That's when the beef brothers were born. They, they were Johnny most called a McNasty and McFilthy were his two nicknames for him. Yeah. Well, I looked it up and apparently there's been several episodes of the beef brothers pod and I'm not making this up. Like they got together and did some potting. Oh, wow. I can't believe that wasn't pitched to us here on Spotify. The Tom Cruise award for most valiant attempt to emulate a normal human goes to Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise wins every time. We don't even need to elaborate each time he wins this time. He's playing a plate. Well, what is he? Slovenian or no? He's Czechoslovakian Serbian, Serbian, Serbian, American quarterback. All right. The Floyd Gundali butter on my ass. All I pops in my mouth, the word for something I just enjoy. So I think we have probably are in the vicinity of the same thing. For me, it's the football team in the locker room getting ready before a big game. It's bad at a thousand. I don't care how bad the football movie is. When this scene comes in before the game, it works every time. Any given Sunday, probably it was the peak, but in general, it's a win every time. I just love it. I love the guys getting ready. There's always the guy hitting his head against a wall. There's guys getting taped up. Everybody's got their different process. I know you, you probably had a million of these. Well, there's always the different characters. There's like the guy who's got the headphones on, who's like rapping really loudly along with it. There's the guy who's really nervous. There's the guy who's trying to be like, we got this guys. They can't beat us. There's fake energy guy. Yeah. Yes. All of that. But it's like, we love our scenes from Rambo and commando of like getting their knives and weapons and their war paint. That's just this in high school. Yeah. I'm getting ready. Montage. Yeah. What do you have for this? Um, I have, I wish I went to high school in the early eighties. So fucking badly. There's a scene at the end where they're at this Christmas concert and they're in the school auditorium, just ripping cigs and beers. Like it's no problem. If I did that, even in the nineties, I would have been suspended from school for even having that on school grounds. And they're like just killing beers and lit cigarettes. And it's nothing. I love that. It's great stuff. Uh, all right. One more break and then we'll do what's age the best. Yeah. This episode is brought to by ethos as a parent life insurance feels like a no brainer. It just gives me peace of mind knowing my family would be taken care of. And the ethos makes getting it fast and easy. Apply in line in minutes, get up to 3 million in coverage with no medical, no medical exam, just a few simple health questions. Take 10 minutes to get covered today with life insurance through ethos. Get your free quote at ethos.com slash rewatch. That is E T H O S.com slash rewatch application. Times may vary. Rates may vary. This episode is brought to you by Viore. All right, let's talk about a category. We appreciate clothes that stay in the rotation. Viore earned that spot. Their core shorts are good for workouts, travel day, weekend, whatever. And the strato tech T ridiculously soft. It's the kind of gear you keep reaching for because it's comfortable while still looking put together. Get 20% off your first purchase at Viore.com slash rewatchables and discover the versatility of Viore clothing exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. What's aged the best. I'll begin by offering you the amp pipe bulldogs. Yeah. Amp pipe, American pipe. And steel. That's like you come up with that in the, when you're writing the script, you're just like, I know in pipe bulldogs. Boom. They're going to have a bulldog mascot. Vinny's desk trick is aged the best and the worst. I don't know where it came from. It's fucking insane. The, uh, I don't know if he caught this, but Brian, Brian, they get married. They're on the street. Yeah. And Brian says for his honeymoon, they're going to Pittsburgh to a penguins flyers game. It's so great. How romantic. Oh, wow. Incredible. It's not even a playoff game. It's just like in December. It's just some game, but Hey, the flyers are in town. Like you want to go, honey? I got his tickets. It's going to be a battle. You, you did all the eighties coaches, football stuff, like the calling people, ladies. Yep. Craig T Nelson becoming coach on TV. We have that, uh, the poster. Oh, let's see it. Oh, it's cruising the letter jacket. Yeah. It looks great. Great poster. You know, honestly was thinking about it for the studio, but it says on the top, he has everything at stake. He can't afford to lose. He's got to make all the right moves. Yeah. That's in script. They're just banging you over the head with that one. Um, I have two more, but what'd you have? I burned almost all of mine. I just, I, I got really nostalgic watching the pep rally. You know, you just, you say now like nobody on their phones, just living in the moment, can you imagine how apathetic kids must be now to a pep rally when they're sitting there? And they're not even going, they don't, they don't go, they don't have them. They don't give a shit. They're on their phone. Yeah. Right. And I was thinking of the speeches that they gave the coach, even just being like, we're at, we have a better football team. We're going to win that game right now. That's instantly on Instagram. And he like the other team sees it and they would never talk like that because that would just not be a good idea. The, the pep rally made me like really nostalgic for those days. I love that a lot. We don't want to win. We have to, we have to win. We have to Chris Penn. I know. All right. My last two are, I think Bosco is incredible in this movie. He's evil buddy. Garrity. Yeah. You get tired of Polack pussy stuff. Just like the worst guy ever. I don't know what his deal is, but he's just the perfect Western Pennsylvania Steelers fan. Kind of a fucking asshole guy. I don't know where they found him. Nobody else could have played this part. I'm going to sink your battleship. You worked on this guy. His name's Jim. He's a soap opera guy, right? Yeah. He used to direct days of our lives when I was on it. He's a great dude. He would come on as the director. Just thinking you hadn't seen all the right moves. You wouldn't know Bosco. It wasn't a thing for me. So he was just this nice guy and he was like super affable, but I'd be lying there shirtless doing love scenes and stuff. He'd be like, all right, lift your arm up a little bit and stroke her hair. But he was cool about it. I had a great experience with him. She's unbelievable in this movie. Here's the best. What stage is the best for this? Jennifer Warren's. I had no idea. And I, I feel like I'm on the higher end of dumb pop culture knowledge. I pride myself in it. Yeah. Holy shit. So she wins an Oscar in 1979 for a song that's in Norma Ray. Okay. Haven't done Norma Ray in the rewatchables yet. No, not yet. When's that pod? She gets nominated in 81 for another song on ragtime. So there's two. This is 79, 81, 82. Love lifts us up where we belong. She's the female in that with Joe Cocker. Wins an Oscar and a Grammy. And that song becomes the number one hit. She is the all the right moves theme song in 83. 1985. Growing pains. Theme song. Show me that smile again. Show me that smile. I would say that and family ties were probably the two best sitcom theme songs ever. Did anybody match those two? I don't think so. Golden girls was excellent. Thank you for being a friend. Golden. And the pains is fucking metal. I mean, because obviously Jefferson's a good times are the two best ever. But if you're talking the eighties in the shadow of those two songs being the best ever, but what if I gave you. And what's happening, but songs with lyrics. So anyway, she has that. And then it's like, I got nothing left. I've just been on a heater for six years. No 1987. Dirty dancing. No, I've heard. The time of my life. She's the girl in that song. That was an Oscar before that was an Oscar and a Grammy. She went three Oscars. Yeah. You're, you're schooling me, right? I didn't know anything. I didn't know it either. I thought her name was Jennifer Warren. I didn't even know it was Jennifer Warren's. If you asked me who is the lady on time in my life, I would just say Jennifer gray. I don't know who sings that. I didn't know either. I didn't know any of this. So anyway, she for nine years goes on and a pop culture heater, three Oscars, two Grammys, multiple, memorable moments and growing pains. Fucking awesome. I just learned something. Yeah. Big Kuhn a burger award for best use of food and drink. Multiple flash shots. I just feel like the flask has gone out no more. I don't feel like flasks are really, if somebody pulled out a flask now, you would just immediately assume they were in a massive alcoholic. Yeah. And they would just have like zins in it or something. Right. This is my gummy case. Like if you're doing first take and during the break, somebody's like, Hey, you want a hit of this? You'd be like, Oh my God, do I tell HR? What's happening? You mad dog. I don't mind if I do. Yes. My, my food and drink. They do a great job. They, they play quarters with the, with the beer at the kegger at the end. And there's a lot of closeups. Great quarters. And I mean, I got to, I'm thinking back to you and your friends being in like eighth grade, watching that. I must've been so cool. I thought it was a great shot. We were like, someday we'll play quarters and guess what we did. And my wife and I were talking about this. Cause I'm sure they still play quarters now. Maybe not the way we did, - Yeah. - We just weren't aware of germs or anything at all. shit in in the late 80s these quarters we'd use the same quarter for four hours because nobody had a quarter everyone's touching it it's bouncing in and out of beers it's wet it's going on the ground where our feet were you're picking it back up throwing it again and then we wondered why everybody had bronchitis for the entire 80s it's because we were disgusting in the 80s playing quarters let's play some beer pong where the ping pong ball rolls under this the oh yeah under the couch where there's rat traps back there yeah like who knows what the fuck and then you just pick it up and sometimes you have a little water cup yeah should we wash that off right back to throwing it just disgusting so gross den of thieves benihana awards scene still in location any mill coal mine any of that with the with the smoke coming up sparks that opening scene is really nice of the first mill uh great shot gorder we did chess walk trust chess rockwell and brocklin is our best character name i really like lisa let'ski okay so not but that's usually somebody who's maybe not going to be the cute girl in a movie but they're just like this is oh i see what you're saying they really zag on it the best friend of the girl named like taylor or lisa let'ski is not a hot girl name in a movie ever but in this one they're like lisa let'ski yeah uh it's a it's a it's a great point about that name but the you have a rifleman rifleman yeah holy shit when can that come back who can be right when the seahawks had a fullback whose name was max strong you're like jesus you came out of the womb to be a fullback rifleman can't be a defensive tackle or a safety it's only quarterback rifleman love it who would be rifleman now maybe there is no rifleman no i can't even think of a name that that cool not i don't know we have to bring back usain bolt was the world's fastest man you know not a chance who's rifleman now if we gave that name who has the best name now or who would we name rifle who would we name rifleman where that could actually get away with it it's got to be some backup with an absolute cannon who just like joe milton joe milton yeah who the eagles just signed right yeah it's probably joe milton so if joe milton's nickname was rifleman he probably wouldn't have been available on the waiver wire they're like oh my god they got rifleman but in the movie rifleman's not his nickname it's his name yeah right i think i don't know what his first i think at some point they say his actual name but they everyone just calls him rifleman oh i thought his last name was rifleman no i think it is no i don't i think it's like nate rifleman i mean that's right i do is that polish what is that i'm not sure but of course he's going to west virginia all right craig we're coming back for your flex in a second kid cuddy pursuit of happiness where best needle dropped the bus ride to walnut high we talked about that was there a better title for this movie would you have done something pittsburgh like last chance or get now what occurred to me get now with a with a hyphen i mean not with an apostrophe oh they're right like get now like losing it get now no because get now it feels like a prison movie yeah i just it occurred to me with like i'm like two-thirds waste with this movie and i was like does steph make any of the right moves in this movie he's all the right moves like he hasn't made a single thing he's kicked out the football team he's lost the girl yeah what the fuck yeah all right you have a flex did you do it no i got it though i did my hot take okay all right i have the um the marion cabretti pizza cutting award why didn't anyone on set stop the star from doing this but i'm not going cruz okay i'm going craig t i i can't sit here and watch a movie in which a high school football coach carries around a nine iron at practice absolutely not i won't fucking do it no you took it too far i know you're going for like some sort of character thing of authority or whatever but like you can't beat hacksaw jim duggan is as a two by four in the ring like that right there's no coach who walks around with a two by four in the ring like that right there's no coach who walks around with a two by four in the ring like that right there's no coach who walks around with a two by four in the ring like that right there's no coach who walks around with a two by four in the ring like that right there's no coach who walks around with a golf club that he never uses never references for any point whatsoever at some point someone just said craig t uh i get it what you're going for we got him to lose the golf club it's distracting everybody nobody understands what the fuck you're doing and i just can't be here for it i don't like it even a baseball bat would have made more sense anything or hockey stick you can't go out there with a great point it's ridiculous well we don't get to give out the steven seagal shitting on himself award for most unbelievable anecdotal film shoot that much but we do get to give it out here oh we got it oh yeah because leah thompson enrolled undercover as lisa litsky in a johnstown pennsylvania high school went to classes for four days and pretended she was a transfer jesus she reports back that every single one of the girls wore identical wingbacked hair that not one of them wore their hair naturally she got into trouble for smoking cigs with three other girls in the bathroom and she found out that few of the kids wanted to leave after graduation they all wanted to just stay in town so it was actually productive cruz tried to go to school and within one day they recognized him from taps and they had dead oh really yeah i love this era though because you can never do this now with the internet but it's like my two lead stars were filming a movie here why don't you guys go undercover as high school students to get a feel for the like this could never happen now no and i'm calling bullshit on cruz like i don't think he was that recognizable from taps i think he just was tom cruising the shit out of it and he's probably at lunch and being like hey you guys on the football team i play some ball and they're like what the fuck is with this guy like who's the new kid no way butch's girlfriend award for weak link of the film what do you have for this i think i have a good one well i could have used some more football i could use the second game i really wish there was a football game in the third act and i the walnut heights game is great they kind of write themselves out of it because steph's not on the team anymore yeah but this it's very usually have one game where like something goes wrong like think about um varsity blues like lance harbour gets hurt you know and then they have to come back from but there's always the last game where they have redemption and i was just kind of waiting for that in my muscle memory and we never got it that was my backup for weak link of the film yeah and i have it later in my thing i'll do it now what's the first string well i'll do i'll do my this thing now because you just did it i think it should have been the second scene we wake up with him he does the thing he looks out he has the cereal he goes to class and i think that night is like a 38 to 10 blowout it's the game before the game and we get to see like all them in action four minutes of football they just kick somebody's ass yeah we get to see that this is a good team and i i honestly don't know why they did it i think it's such a miss maybe maybe they didn't have enough time in the shooting schedule maybe they were worried guys were gonna get hurt but it's so easy and then we could have seen where they played their home field i know it's just a layup i don't know why they didn't do it in any kind of movie where it's an adventure or cop or something it's usually the first big success and you see that these guys kick ass totally then there's the setback and then the redemption we didn't get the success or the redemption the success would have been how about this anyone listening if you're in a football movie we need two games minimum yeah it's a two game minimum thing maybe even more any given sunday has like six i know but and this one was so good i just i couldn't watching it bill like i was like oh i can't wait for this last game and then you just never see it my weak link was bosco i'm just trying to figure out what what he what he did let's go what is he so he's serious he's the team's biggest booster okay it seems like he works for the school yep he's also the town bad guy and he's a bully boozer but he's on the coach's side because he's the mc of the pep rally but then he trashes his house two days later what the fuck was the deal with this guy i also think i think he worked or was laid off from the steel mill because he gets really triggered when staff insults the steel mill yeah but to your point you think he's just the booster who wears the suit whatever there's one random scene where he's walking down the hallway wearing an apron like he right so he's a high school chef yeah the kitchen cafeteria but he's also the head at the mc of the pep rally in a three-piece suit and he's the chef at the school i i don't know i thought he was the principal for a while but i'm like no no no he's not the fucking principal i think you said earlier he's evil like him yeah yeah he's evil buddy garrity but also if buddy worked in the cafeteria he goes to the game he's with his family yes immediately after the game he's at a pub bitching about nickerson doing his emergency podcast should have taken the safety then somehow they get in the car and they drive all the way to nickerson's house like what what was this guy's day like i didn't understand it what stage the worst crew saying he's 5 10 number one coach's pre-game speech with the racial slurs number two this this uh oh and steph not playing both ways we i had that in my notes as well the biggest one that i found was uh in 2018 thompson did not want to do the nude scene okay and initially the movie had two nude scenes and she had already signed and but they was like we're gonna need the nude scene because this is the 80s and this is how all it would work back then cruise persuaded the producers to drop one of the two nude scenes which i guess was in the car and said i'll go naked with you in the second one goes full full naked tom cruise in the second one uh when they when they finally hook up and that's how they ended up getting their nude scene yeah so what's the worst but also it made me like tom cruise yeah you watch this movie you're gonna get a quick pube shot of the biggest movie star of all time you're not ready for that but i mean i have it even worse to your point i found this interview on youtube with michael chapman the director it's rough he's talking about casting leah thompson and he says like well we had to come in and there were the nude scenes so the we would have to the act would take their shirts off and we would examine it and the producer would have to sign off on their breasts and he's saying this on camera and so he's like i'm a dp i was so uncomfortable i had to kind of leave the room but i was like jesus christ in the early 80s that's what they were having to do and they were actually an inspection with a sign off that's what the interview says it's rough that's a once aged triple worst yeah it's one of the worst did you have any or can we keep going i keep burned all mine i keep i've got them all out rufflo hannah rubinick partridge overacting award i have two nominees for you i have savucci in the scene you mentioned earlier when they're for some reason smoking and drinking during christmas fuck school man fuck christmas it's like what's wrong with this guy and then but the winner is brian telling steph he's having a kid where he kind of tries to do the tom sizemore award going toe-to-toe with the star it's like i'm having a kid having a kid and it's just really bad it's it's not chris penn's best work i think he's cruising he's like you talk to your recruiter at usc they have married housing i've heard about this i've heard having a kid steph it's tough so i think those are two winners okay you did your hottest take i'm gonna do mine okay the cr thanks luke wilson award harrison award hottest take who did i mangle that but you know what i meant yes i think rifleman he uncorks two throws in this movie i think he has not only the best throwing arm i've ever seen in a sports movie and it's not even close i think he might have the best throwing arm i've ever seen i'm with you there's a behind him throw yep where it's to the side craig can you come on for this he he's it he uncorks it from back here but the throw is perfect he's on the run and it's just a fucking cannon it looks like it goes 50 yards and then he has another one later to leon it's just perfect it's like it's like watching ray allen's jump shot or something did that jump out to you craig absolutely it was like a drake may deep ball perfect spiral it was remarkable i can't believe they weren't throwing the ball more and that wasn't part of the game plan i was trying to find this guy and i believe this is like real half-assed internet research the guy who played rifleman or at least who threw that pass was walter briggs who went on to have a short stint with the jets wow oh so that had to be he had to have been a real guy legit athlete yeah does he have any other acting credits not a ton walter briggs is his name and he like played small college ball and then was on like it was the strike season he was on the jets yeah interesting they were just like look at this dude's arm can he call plays no you're talking about one where he rolls right and throws this beautiful bomb down the middle of the field and he's like oh my god he's like oh my god he's like oh my god he's like oh that's dropped and not caught right but it's a gorgeous pass i was trying to think who in the nfl had a better fucking just throwing motion result that i can remember because i always loved randall cunningham's arm yep um but i guess it was a little unconventional to come out jeff george had a great one where it was just like efficient and it would come out like 120 miles an hour but this kid is like this is what you would want it's probably the best throw in a sports movie ever i think it is i i really do a lot of them a lot of these movies like the program for example when you have craig sheffer they bring in a double and he does the throws yeah and for the tight shots this guy and then the second one the touchdown which is shot incredibly like tight spiral down into his hands yeah it's the spiral is tight it's like bill you're thinking about the guys who just have the rifles like michael vick's left-handed throw was so hard and the spirals and elway elway was another one elway was obviously and then i'll shout out to like the long wind up and delivery byron left which used to have like the longest i don't know if you've seen it but it's like the longest wind up and delivery byron left almost baseball-like delivery. Yeah. And there was a lot of that going on in that one. Justin Herbert before he died. That's another one. Yeah. All right, P. Before the funeral. All right, Craig, get ready. I'm coming back to you. Can I do hottest take? Oh, let's go. What do you got? I forgot you had one. Is it even a hot take to say that Brian Reilly 100% should have went to USC? Okay, let's go. What are we talking about? He's having a baby. Bring the girlfriend with you. What is she doing? Have her come with you. Even if she has to, like, have her drop out of school if she's a junior. To come with you to fucking Southern California, you're getting a full ride to USC to play linebacker. That will eventually, hopefully, be able to financially support his new child. Isn't he worse off by staying? These are great points. I thought the same thing. Well, I have a feeling it would be able to financially support them immediately. Well, also, he's going to USC. They're going to pay him under the table. Bring her. I didn't understand why she can't just go with him. There's some booster that will give her some job Oh, yeah. She can be an assistant in my realtor firm. They'll pay them a huge envelope of cash. This is early 80s. They're all doing it. I think, like, the boring answer is, like, her family is there and her parents are there and that's her support system and she would never even entertain ever leaving. But Brian might be like, power move time or Brian's family, guys, we're moving to Heritage Hall at USC. Let's go. Yeah. I think he calls and says he has to turn down the offer. And they're like, okay. They think he's negotiating. They're like, okay. Would 50K change your mind? How about 75? Like, clearly, you're making at least 25K to play linebacker at USC. How about this? He goes anyway. You know, she's with her family. He comes back and visits the kid. This is a USC scholarship. This is a big deal. He might go to the NFL. Like, I don't know. Craig, stay on because your flex is coming up anyway. Casting what Fs couldn't find anyway. Joey Pants Award for best that guy. It's got to be Bosco. I think Terry O'Quinn. Terry O'Quinn. Terry O'Quinn is Terry O'Quinn. I think it's Terry O'Quinn because of Lost. Lost was a massive show. I was like, oh, that's John Locke. But yeah. Yeah. And then Cruz's brother was a pretty big that guy. Oh, definitely. He's been in another movie, Craig, that we've done that you had never seen before and is among the craziest movies we've ever done that were rewatchables. Hardcore with George C. Scott. Oh. Oh, I forgot you guys did that. Holy shit. Turn it off. Turn it off. Yeah, so he's in that. Dion Waiters, I could offer you Bosco. Bosco's buddy who says, why didn't Nickerson, why didn't he, why didn't he take the safety and punt it away? I'm like, great call. Bosco's buddy goes, because he's an asshole. I hate losing to these rich pricks. This is his only line. I can tell that all three of us are going to be in that movie. I loved the line about, why not take the safety? I was like, yeah, sure. That's a good point, actually, on Caller 2. That's never in movies. Take the safety. They never include stuff like that. Yeah. So, I think the winner is Bosco, unless you want to give it to Cam Scadabo and Walnut High. Just rip it after everybody. I loved trying to give to Scadabo. I wanted Salvucci in here, but he's in the movie, I think, too much. He just has too many scenes. How about Salvucci just mustering like a full tilt erection just by leaning back and thinking about it? Like, what is that scene? What fucking scene? That is so strange. That's the early 80s. That's the decade Craig missed. I know. Recast the couch director of City. Ironically, I have Salvucci because I don't think we've ever seen that guy again. How about a little Matt Dillon here? We're right in Matt Dillon range. Matt Dillon and Salvucci. Let's ramp it up a little from a casting standpoint. Cruise wouldn't want it because it's a cruise vehicle. He was doing Rumble Fish and Coppola stuff then. He was big. But my big recasting stuff is the music. I have some notes as a kid from this era. Car hookup scene. Has to be open eyes from Journey. Just has to. Party scene. Prince has to be in the party scene. That was peak. Definitely. White guys in the middle of nowhere listening to Prince 1983. I think they're playing 1999 or something. And then I don't know where Bob Seger was in this movie. I don't know if he didn't like the script. He should have been in the diner. He could have been in the ending. I just, he's right there. And I just don't know what happened. Bill, can I give you one that, listen, we talked about the bus scene and how good it is. Yeah. How about I can feel it coming in the air tonight. Is that song out yet? It is, right? 81 it comes out. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you beat Tubbs and Crockett to it. Oh, my God. The scene's better. You beat him to it. Great. Tough for Doug Cahan, but I like it. All right, Craig, what's your flex? You flicked at it, but I want to do it again and narrow in on something. The Tom Cruise Award for the most valiant attempt to emulate a normal human. What do you got? I'm giving this to Tom Cruise. The scene where Steph and Nickerson are fighting in the street at the end of the movie and they're yelling at each other. Cruise is like still clearly figuring out how to sprint on camera. It's like the weirdest running Cruise has ever done where he does this like stop and start thing twice. It's like a guy figuring out how to drive stick and the car is stalling. Yeah. Where he like sprints, stops, slaps his hands to his hips, sprints again, stops. No human has ever done that when they're angry in the history of time. He might have had like a sore calf. It was super weird. Yeah. He was running like 10 yard sprints and then stopping each time. Craig, doesn't it feel like like you're seeing greatness when it's young? Like the video of Tiger Woods with a golf club when he was a little kid. Yeah. That's going to be the greatest. There's glimpses there. Yeah. That was good. Craig, I'm bringing you back one more time for a specific spot near the end that you're going to love. Have fast internet research. 10,000 residents from this country. In this town were the extras and they gave them free soft drinks, hot dogs, raffle prizes, donations. Tom Cruise, minor concussion. during the filming. Yeah, I bet. After we saw they did not have the football specialist guy. Real life area coach Donald A. Yanesa played the other football coach in the movie and was the technical consultant. You mentioned the end credits and then Pat Jordan told a story that the Lucille Ball production company bought the movie for $2,500. Bought the rights. Said they'd pay him $35,000 if it got made into a movie. So he got the $2,500. A couple years later some Pittsburgh guy who he had made friends with when he was whatever reporting the story said, hey they're making a movie in Duquesne. It sounds an awful lot like your movie. So he has his agent call and they're like, oh yeah! And he ended up getting the $35,000. They were just going to stiff Pat Jordan who had the rights. We were just going to call you. We were going to call you. Did you change your number? So he ended up getting the $35,000. Apex Mountain. Tom Cruise, no. Chris Penn, no. But we're getting close with Footloose. Hot band geeks. It's her or American Pie, right? American Pie more famous. And I don't know if she was a band geek. I don't know if Lisa Letsky has even been a band geek. Pittsburgh coal mine mill movies. Probably not. I think this is great. It's probably Deer Hunter. Yeah. Deer Hunter won five Oscars. Craig T. Nelson, no. High school football movies. I asked that as well. High school football on screen. My personal apex, I think it's the Friday Night Lights TV show. Like Coach Eric Taylor, Kyle Chandler, Riggs, all that stuff. I've never been more into it. But it's not terribly realistic. This is much more realistic. I think it's the Friday Night Lights movie. You like the movie. But I think they're in the finals against each other and I think it's, I would change my mind depending on the week. My dad had an interesting take after he watched. He was like, huh. Pretty dated. That was his All the Right Moves thing. But he did enjoy it because he loves Cruz. Just the whole movie. He thought it was a little dated. Yeah, it's over 40 years old. Leah Thompson, no. It's got to be Back to the Future. Yes. The 6-2 stack? 6-2 stack monster. I'm going to say no. And Jennifer Warrens, obviously not because she was fucking prolific. It's got to be Dirty Dancing. Who knew? She's the Beatles. Cruz or Hanks? Cruz. Phoebe Cates Award Excellence in Putting Teens Through Puberty. Leah Thompson. That was a not unimportant early 80s love scene for horny teenagers. I was also going to have it. They may not know. When we did Great Shot Gordo, I was like, I know I'm supposed to say the smokestacks against the hills of Western Pennsylvania, but it's that fucking nipple-to-nipple shot. You know what? Tit-to-tit. Jan de Banto is, I need zippin' nipples. Yes. Double nipples. More nipples. He got right in there on those. The Clarence Worley should have died at the end award for biggest cop-out of an ending. What if they zag and the coach offers him the scholarship and he's like, you know what, coach, fuck off. Fuck you, bitch. You fucking ruined my life. I'm staying here. I'm going to work in the mill. And he just skulks away. All right, picking nits. So Steph wants to be an engineer. Yeah. Electric engineer. He's rocking a B average and some outskirts of Pittsburgh High School. What engineering school was he getting into? I don't know. Poly, I guess. Engineering is pretty smart. Yeah. Like maybe like an A minus would have been better for an average or? Also, why does he want to be an engineer? Like where is that coming from and why engineer of all the professions? They don't really back that up at all. My wife pointed out they have this one thing when she comes over, Leah Thompson. Yeah. And he's got a bunch of drawings on the wall and she's like, you did these? And if you look, it's like the worst drawings. He's like, it's my underwater dome. Rudimentary, terrible engineering. Where are all the Pittsburgh accents? Yeah, they don't do it. Don't do it. Shouldn't half of the characters have talked like Dave Damoshek in this movie? Hey, yo, Bill, I got to tell you, I listened to the rewatch of this. Terry Bradshaw should be our quarterback for life. But Bill, you know what? Best decision they made because if they did it, we'd be sitting here making fun of how bad their accents are. So like, no, we're just going to concede. And that's why I'm a hypocrite because this is my Chris Helmsworth and black hat. Just use your Australian accent for this. You don't have to pretend you're from Chicago or Brooklyn. We hit all of the other ones except I thought the brother needed a big speech to Steph. I thought he was waiting for his Oscar moment that never gave it to him. Hey, man, you have stuff that I would kill to have. Like one of those I would kill to be in the spot you're in. If I had half your ability. Yeah. I would have done anything to be you. Basically, the Chucky Good Will Hunting to speech to Will Hunting. That guy is a, he's a pretty good actor. He's a good actor. He's in a funny movie called Robot Jocks where he's the lead. And he has just that one scene where he's like, I got laid off today. I'm going to go get shit-faced. And that's really all they get to chew it. But yeah, the Good Will Hunting about if I ever see you back here, you know, it was missing. The movie got cut. We did a bunch of nitpicks already. The only other one I had was that Chris Penn's girlfriend is just super pregnant after, it's like, we found out, took her to the doctor, she's pregnant. A month later, she's like eight and a half months pregnant. So I had a feeling maybe he knew. Did you have an interview on nitpicks or no? One thing drives me crazy, at the end of this, at the end after the wedding, they do the flasks you mentioned. Yeah. It's terrible. They're not drinking anything from the flasks. Just watch it the next time. You can tell there's not a single drop of liquid in those flasks. It's bad. Sequel, prequel, streamer, all black cast, spinoff, remaker, untouchable. This is, I remember writing for Page Two in like 2002 being like, why is this a TV show? What are we doing? Let's just put this in Western Pennsylvania. Let's go. This would be four seasons. And they did it and it's Friday night. It's Friday night lights. And they did it. They did it like five years later. I had a thought. It's none of those sequel, prequel, anything. You know what this movie really needs? The ending is so abrupt and it's so short. This movie would kill with an Animal House style end credits where what happened to each person. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like it would be like Brian stayed home and became a high school football coach and had six kids. Yeah. You know, Vinny wound up doing 20 years in prison. Steph lives in, it needs that. And it needs, because we'd like to, we know, we know these kids and we like them. What happened to them? Give us just like a brief little layout of where they go. I think that would have really ended the movie nicely. Rifleman won the Super Bowl in 1996. Yes. With his 90-yard Hail Mary throw. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Forest, Zane Lowe, Robert Evans, Dr. Charles Dinkles, Ted Levine, or someone else? I have a feeling I know where you're probably going here. I don't know if you do, Bill. It's a funny thing. So, you know, Vinny gets the armed robbery. Yeah. And there was a scene originally where he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to do it. And he has to go to get out of it. He has to go to this local florist. And he walks in there and the florist is like, no, you're doing the job. And Vinny's like, who the fuck do you think you are? The only guy in Ampipe with a gun? And the florist looks at him and goes, you're going to do this job for me? Or you're going to see if your hard-on can lift up desks with your nuts clipped like I clipped your brother and your uncle at the mill? You're not just going to fumble this away like you did at Walnut Heights for your mommy? If there's an end zone, son, you're not in it. I know that's Chris Ryan's IP. No, that's good. Listen, Chris would love it. I have Stephen A. playing Steph apologizing the next day for what happened in the Walnut High game. Okay. So things got a little heated last night. It's a tough loss. Yes. Devastating loss. And I need to apologize to Coach Nickerson Oh, man. for what happened in the locker room. That's not me. That's not me. That's not my character. It was heated. We had a tough loss. I felt like I had to stick up for Sal Vucci. And I also want to apologize to his wife and his young daughter for dumping trash on your lawn. Again, that's not me. So that's my Stephen A. apology. Very moving. Very moving, Bill. I didn't see you had that in you. Very moving. Just one Oscar who gets it. Obviously, Jan de Bont. For photography. Yeah, he wins. I need to see him. He's a nipple. Well, close up. I think he wins. Unanswerable questions. Sal Vucci's desk trick. How do you know you can do this? What's. Are there. Are there maiden voyages for this? Like, what is this? I think we lose track as adults well removed from that that when you're that age, you just walk around with boners. Like, you have them all the time. It's just. It's nothing. It's like you just. You have a boner. It's no big deal. You have 20 of them a day. And if you're sitting there bored in class, you also do really dumb shit. And he's probably like, hey, Steph, check this out. I can lift up the desk. And Steph's like, that's fucking hilarious. I think he's done that 20 times before. That's like his trick. So is. Are we supposed to infer he has a huge dick? Yes. And he's like extremely virile. All of the above, yes. Yeah. All right, Craig, you need to come back in for this one last piece. Okay. Probably, unanswerable questions. I did this in a mailbag way back when. I'm just bringing it back. Is Tom Cruise a good athlete? I'm going to give you the pros and the cons. Yeah. So this would be if you were making the case he is a good athlete. In great shape. He's fucking ripped in all the right moves. Like ripped. Believable that he would be a football player. When he runs in movies, other than the scene Craig mentioned earlier, when he's running like in a football thing, he seems really athletic. And I think he was a convincing quarter cornerback for the most part. except for the stance before whatever he was doing in the outsiders. He does that crazy flip off the railing where he looks like a mid eighties Olympics gymnast volleyball scene in Top Gun. Pretty convincing. Yes. Boxing scenes. No, you're going not convincing Craig. Oh no. I said, yes, Craig, did you? I said, yes, Craig. I like the volleyball. Volleyball. No, I don't, I don't think it's, I'm not confusing him for a college volleyball player. Okay. Boxing scenes and far and away pool scenes, color money, juggling bottles and cocktail. Clearly like you have some hand eye and then, uh, gotta be honest. His softball line drives in few good men. We're pretty good. Some mustard on those grounders and, uh, and five balls. All right. The counters stunt double for the football scenes at all. Could you see anything that made it seem like it might've been somebody else? I don't think so. Okay. So we'll get rid of it. It's him. They threw, they threw the ball right at him so he could catch it. It's a red flag. Top gun, volleyball scene edited really heavily. Basketball scene with cocktail in cocktail with Coghlan. Awful, terrible shooting for him. Looked like he'd never touched basketball. War of the worlds, the famous baseball throw the baseball. Yeah. And throwing gooses, dog tags and top gun. Rough. I didn't like that either. No. So that's, I'm giving you the evidence of both sides. So you guys tell me, was Tom Cruise a good athlete? Craig? I think the answer is no. I, on the actor scale, he's probably like a seven or an eight, but anytime you see him do like a real specific skill, a throw, a catch, it's not great. He's an effort guy and he'll try his hardest. And that communicates like the running, the jumping, the pushups, all that looks good. But when he has to like do one specific skill that requires like hand, I, it's not great. It's in the, it's in the details. I, I think the, the fine sport, I don't think he'd be a good tennis player. I don't think he'd be a good golfer. I don't know if you've ever seen him golf in a movie, but the physical stuff, the fighting and wrestling in Magnolia, when he's Frank TJ Mackey, he's giving the interview. He takes off his shirt and does this like thing where he goes into a handstand and puts his legs up on the wall. And it's very impressive athletically. I think in the contact and physicality sports, I think he is gifted and aggressive. I do. So you think he could have been in vision quest in the Matthew Modine part and been really good. Okay. Definitely. And you should, I should also say, the color of money, one shot pool, cute, extremely impressive. So I'm going to say, Hey, he's fast. Yeah. For an actor and good hand. I, but I'm not sure. I'm, I'm not sure he played any sports in the first 18 years of his life would be my guess. Like there are just people you could like Sandlot, Benny, the jet. You're just like that kid's athletic. I don't feel that way when I watch Tom Cruise. That's good. I think the most important piece of evidence that you brought up, Bill, I think, I think it is very difficult to look natural hitting balls and softball when you throw up the ball, then put your hands back on the bat and make contact squarely. Like that's hard to do. And he he's doing that while he's delivering Sorkin dialogue. Like I, I think he looks very natural doing that. Craig stand for the end. Cause you're coming up in a second memorabilia. You'd most want from this movie. I can give you amp app and pipe jacket, letter jacket and pipe hat. I can give you the coach's windbreaker, which is pretty cool. I can give you, I can give you any uniform from the movie. What are you taking? I'll take no uniform. I'll take Steph's neck roll all day long. It should be in the Smithsonian. Give me the neck roll. Okay. You wouldn't want his engineering drugs. No, I'm good on those. I can draw Metallica logos by myself in 3d shapes. Craig, what do you have? An amp pipe hat. If I could get one of those right now, my God, I was trying to think what would be the best for the studio. And it's clearly the amp pipe hat. I mean, they just, the name amp pipe is so cool. Yeah. American pipe. Right. Fullman's uniform would probably be by my choice unless you want to go with the Walnut high running back. Like it's 41. That guy was the best running back in the state. Couldn't tackle him. Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi were best, worst life lesson. Don't go at your coach in the locker room after a devastating loss. Let everyone cool off. Nothing good's going to happen. How about don't hand it off to the felon inside the one yard line when you're trying to end the game. Right. Use a condom. Maybe pull out pull up. Best double feature choice. I'm going triple feature. I think you go all the right moves. I think, I think you do varsity blues and then I think you finish it off with Friday night lights. And I think you're done in five and a half hours. And I think it's a great night. It's a great run. I'm going to, I'm going to keep the Leah Thompson going. I'm going to knock out a couple episodes of Carolina, the city. She's going to go in. Yeah. I like her. And then who won the movie? Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, Craig, you'd never seen it. What were your thoughts? Um, you know, it's a coming of age sports story with very little sports. And I got to say, it works. Like the reason they don't make movies like this anymore is because they would just be seen as too small, like too boring. These movies are so funny because like 40 years later, there were so many things that movies like this do that like are the opposite of what you're told to do now. Like the beginning of this movie is four minutes of silence of just a full song playing. And you're just watching a guy like get ready in the morning. Yeah. Like in a modern movie, four minutes in, you need to have like two fight scenes already. And like three characters need to die. And he's just like putting deodorant, on and you're four minutes cereal. Um, but I think we're all sports movies shine in this movies does like when they're good, it's when the football is like real and it's like actually guys playing football and you don't really have to cut out of it. Like there's just wide shots of lines hitting each other. Like the interception scene. I kind of got chills during the interception scene. Uh, I actually thought there should have been a little more there. They could have, I wanted some slow-mo some music. It kind of just get right through that. But the football is pretty good. And I think this movie is like weirdly mature. I don't know. The like high school, college, I'm about to move on. Do I stay with my high school or college girlfriend or boyfriend? And like that decision, it's weirdly mature. So like, yeah, this movie's, you know, kind of corny and there's some bad lines here and there, but, um, yeah. In a bizarre 80s sex scene. Once again, what's up? We just, we couldn't unlock it from the eighties. I don't know what we were doing wrong. What was the problem, Craig? I'm not going to, I'm not doing the Jamie Lee Curtis like inappropriate because like, sure. If you want it in the movie, you think it makes sense. It's fine. And like the losing of Virginia, he's fine. It's like, but the way they film it, why does it have to be the most like awkward, clunky, full frame, two boobs for five straight seconds, nipples touching. Like you can, it's not even sexy. It's just like in your face and kind of flat. And I don't know why the sex scenes aren't sexier. Every time you see these 80s sex scenes, it always feels like the actress. It's like my agent told me I couldn't get out of this. I know. It's never, it's the, the opposite of sexy. You feel bad for everyone involved. I was watching that scene. I just, I immediately Googled how old was Leah Thompson when you shot all the right moves. Cause I was like, should I be not watching this? It's totally like, maybe I'm doing something wrong. And then of course, like after, of course, after the scene, she's like, well, I'm a junior, as you know, I'm like, yeah, it's like 16 maybe. And then it cuts right to her in church. Yeah. Which I don't think is, that's not accidental. Cause he puts the cross in his hand, the necklace cross, puts that in his pocket. And the next scene's at church. But I just love that. It's like, I was like, Oh, maybe it'll be like a side profile and we'll be laying on top. And it's like, no, there's just going to be a cut to just two breaths in your face. It's, it's a remarkable. Craig, you seeing Digger this weekend? I saw it. What is it like? It's, it's like one of the weirdest movies you'll see all year. I don't, it's not bad. It's just extremely not commercial. It is like a true art house. It's like Birdman, but about, it's like Birdman and don't look up. Had a baby. Wow. Jesus. Okay. What do you think? There's a great cruise car element. He's awesome. He's very good. He like plays different characters in it. Kind of. It's really, it's he's great. He's still got it. What do you think? Cruise is 20th rewatchables movie is going to be. Have we done 19? We've done 19 movies. What's the best cruise movie we haven't done? I mean, I'll give you movies. We have some MIs left. We have edge of tomorrow left. We, we have Jack Reacher left. We have a war. The world's is still left. I think last samurai last samurai has left. I might stay left. Do I need to check in with that again? Uh, yeah, maybe. Yeah. We've never done vanilla sky. Hmm. Never done vanilla sky. That's another one. We've done basically everything from the first 15 years of his career that you'd want to do. Cause I don't think I like born on the 4th of July, but I do not think it's a, that's tough. It's a rewatch. It's a tough hang. I have to end with a story. A couple of days ago, I was interviewing Joe Manganiello, the actor who's on a book tour right now. Yeah. He comes up to me and I was like, Joe, how are you doing? He's like, dude, we just got to talk about the rewatchables. He's like, I fucking love it. And I was like, wow, that's great. He goes, there's not DVD commentary anymore. That podcast is like the best thing that there is. He's talking to me about it after the interview. He brings it up during the interview on TV. When I'm like asking him about his marriage to Sophia for guard. He's like, well, I know Kyle, you're on the rewatchables. And I was like, dude, that's not the same thing. All he wanted to talk about. And I go to him, this is what it like a huge nerd for it. He is. I go, so what would be like your dream episode? And he goes, Van Damme cyborg. And I was like, what cyborg? Cyborg's awesome. I fucking love that movie. So he's like a huge fan of the show. Cyborg. I don't know if I've even. It's like a deep Van Damme. It's a great movie, but of all the things he said, cyborg. Well, Kyle Brandt, the most important thing is that You finally broke the seal of me basically begging you to watch a movie you weren't familiar with and then you throwing yourself into it. So now I feel like- We're best friends now. Now I feel like this is open. We're best friends. All the right moves and I are on text chains that like you're not even on with us. Like we're like, we're huge friends now. I'm like, I introduced you guys. I know, we have one with you, but we have our own one now. Right, that's excellent. Kyle Brandt, thank you. Craig, thank you. Thanks to Gahal and Eduardo and Jack and everybody else at Spotify. We'll see you next week on The Rewatchables. This episode is brought to you by Searchlight Pictures, Wild Horse 9. 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