ALL 90,603 Text Messages of Threats & Gaslighting Between Mackenzie & Dom
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This episode presents a detailed, human-driven analysis of 30,000 text messages between Mackenzie Shirilla and Dominic Russo from 2020 to July 2022, the period leading up to the fatal car crash in which Dominic and Davion Flanagan were killed. The narrative centers on Mackenzie’s increasingly abusive and manipulative behavior, which shifts from early-stage teenage insecurities to a pattern of emotional domination. She frequently texts Dominic with demands for attention, pleading for time together, and escalating into anger when ignored, often attributing her distress to anxiety. Her communication style becomes obsessive—repeatedly asking for responses, refusing to accept no, and reacting with fury when dismissed. Dominic, in contrast, consistently expresses a need for space and autonomy, especially for personal time and time with friends, but this is repeatedly undermined by Mackenzie’s relentless pressure. The relationship deteriorates as Mackenzie’s behavior grows more extreme, including threats of self-exit, emotional blackouts, and accusations of harm, such as claiming her leg was injured by Dominic. While both parties communicate in a way that reflects teenage immaturity, the evidence strongly suggests Mackenzie’s actions were emotionally manipulative and controlling, aligning with patterns seen in abusive relationships. The episode emphasizes that Mackenzie, not Dominic, is the one facing criminal charges—her intent and behavior are central to the legal case. Despite some initial claims of mutual dissatisfaction, the messages show a clear trajectory of escalating emotional control and manipulation, culminating in a relationship where Mackenzie’s emotional needs override Dominic’s personal boundaries. The analysis underscores the danger of prolonged emotional manipulation in close relationships, particularly when one partner is isolated or coerced into submission. This is not a story of mutual toxicity, but of one-sided emotional coercion that ultimately led to tragic consequences.
i don't think we've ever posted an episode like this it's going to be very different
this is a standalone episode on just mackenzie shirilla and dominic russo's 30 000 pages of text
messages detailing their relationship from 2020 all the way up until july 31st 2022 when mackenzie
kills dom and davion in a car crash a lot of people including the courts believe that mackenzie
killed dom and davion because she had a hostile relationship with dom she felt like he was going
to break up with her soon so she in a fit of rage anger whatever intensified emotion she felt in
that car she crashes the car straight into the building mackenzie and her parents they deny that
this is what happened in fact they go as far to allege that mackenzie and dom's relationship
wasn't perfect sure but it wasn't that bad mackenzie's dad steve says the word toxic has
been thrown around a lot i didn't see the toxic relationship that everybody
sang oh it was toxic this is a toxic relationship they argued i argue with my wife you know everybody
argues okay from what i knew it wasn't toxic they argued they broke up he's over the next day with
flowers and candy and a stuffed animal i mean it was like every couple of months something would
happen and my wife was helping them try to fix their relationship and they were never breaking up
anybody who is saying that is lying and i don't care if it's hurtful they were not breaking up
they may break up but they were getting right back together again
they were not breaking up for anyone who says they were breaking up it is a lie a baseless lie
a narrative from the prosecution but who's telling the truth here because of that naturally people
want to analyze their text messages i've seen people try to use ai to try to scan through these
30 000 pages or they'll pick out a few messages here and there and hopefully this episode feels
like a bit more exhaustive as we went through all 30 000 pages like human this was just us
sitting there on the dining room table for like hours on end days on end and i'm not saying that
this is a chronological recounting of their fights in the messages it's not going to be in the usual
rm fashion where we try to go through all these different sources and compile a comprehensive
overview of an event i'm literally just going to walk you through what i read in the messages
it's going to be frustrating infuriating and exhausting i'm just going to give you a heads
up right now like i lost my mind in those messages the amount of fights they got into that doesn't
even make sense i'm just going to give you an example of like how frustrating it's going to be
don buys a three pair of 300 shorts for mackenzie is she grateful no she's not because she had to
order it herself he gave her the money she ordered it on her card but he sent her the money so like
he paid for it okay all she did was like put in the address and stuff but she's like no you didn't
buy me the shorts he's really confused because like what do you mean you know i mean say what
do you mean and she says i'm saying buying it off my card makes me buying it i still have to go to
go through with the stress of buying it and checking it out it stresses me out doing that
if you put in all the information on your phone that would be you buying it for me did she ask
for the shorts yeah and he's like okay go ahead here's the money yeah okay and so he's confused
i think if i paid for it i got it for you period she argues today i bought the outfit with your
money you did not buy me anything i bought it for myself with your money which i thank you for letting
me use your money to buy he's so confused he circles back to the first comment and says wait
you have stress ordering the clothes but i don't have stress making money you could have said no
to buying it how many times i have to tell you this i would not have cared he's so lost you don't
think 300 is more stressful than ordering it see you're turning this into another fight right here
and i'm not doing this dom expresses i feel unappreciated are we working this out or not
have you been reading anything i said i said
thank you for buying it like a million times like i always do question mark question mark question
mark which by the way she didn't really ever say thank you she just tells him you feel
unappreciated and i feel unheard i guess things don't ever change so it's going to be a lot of
those types of moments and moments like this where two weeks before the crash mackenzie text dom
i don't need to beg for your attention millions of people on the internet would give me attention
in a heartbeat let's get into the text messages between mackenzie and dom
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as always full show notes are available at rotten mango podcast.com today's case involves mentions
of illicit drug usage reckless driving self-exit domestic violence and trafficking quotes or
statements may be condensed for brevity especially in today's
case i do want to mention kind of our process in picking out what messages we were going to
highlight for today's episode just for the sake of transparency obviously we couldn't sit here and
just read through like 90 603 text messages which if you live in the u.s you can actually get the
messages yourself through an foia request in fact i think if you're a little bit resourceful you
could easily find a copy online somewhere but nevertheless we went back and forth and back
and forth on which parts to highlight in this episode on one hand we wanted this episode to be
a very thorough look into the progression of their relationship honestly to me and this is my opinion
the messages from mckenzie feel abusive the way she's able to manipulate the conversation twist
dom's words and suffocate him to the point of having him submit to her crazy demands it's
reminiscent to me of an abusive relationship the way she just progresses for two and a half years
of messages that we see in the beginning she starts off much more reasonable before getting
more and more controlling near the end and she's able to manipulate the conversation and she's able
to manipulate the conversation and it's like the way she progresses feels so subtle it feels
just like a tiny bit more controlling fight by fight month by month and then by the end it's like
it's the most suffocating feeling it was incredibly informative in a sense to see how that happens
through these messages which is why we think these messages are important to highlight
but we also wanted to be pretty mindful that there are two people in this relationship and
one of them was killed by the other one of them is not here to explain defend their comments text or
actions because he dom was killed we have seen some discourse online of some stating that after
reading a bit of dom's messages they felt he was toxic in the relationship as well or they didn't
like how he spoke to mckenzie or in general which normally i do think these are really really good
points to highlight but in this case i think it would be highly unproductive if not victim
blaming to a degree for that to be the main takeaway from reading these messages because
there is absolutely nothing that dom could have said or done that would warrant or excuse him
being killed by mckenzie nothing this episode is obviously going to include both sides of the text
messages but we're going to be focusing on mckenzie shirilla's words and behavior because
those are the likely elements tied to her criminal charges and the judge's findings of intent
mckenzie shirilla was convicted of murder mckenzie shirilla was on trial there will be times throughout
the episode where in a fight dom may say something to mckenzie that isn't particularly the nicest
thing that someone could say or sometimes he shouldn't have said certain things at all but
we're not going to comment on those moments because we're not going to comment on those moments because
while we may not agree with the words said dom is not on trial for anything mckenzie was because
he was killed by mckenzie shirilla there will be no discussions in this episode of maybe he shouldn't
have said that or like well he definitely shouldn't have said that or maybe that wasn't very nice of
him because again there is nothing in these messages that would warrant or excuse mckenzie
shirilla of driving her car at 100 miles per hour straight into a brick building killing dominic
russo and davian flanagan nothing so
with that in mind let's get started the messages start from january of 2020 all the way to july 2022
and there is a lot i tried to summarize where i could but a lot of it you really only get the
essence when you feel how exhausting she is and it's really hard to summarize that feeling
they constantly in the beginning call each other bebs like b-e-b-s just non-stop i was losing my
mind over the bebs and while mckenzie continues to breathe life into the concept of immaturity
and irrationality in the beginning it is a lot less frustrating she just seems very young and
dumb but over time that morphs into young dumb and highly suffocating and manipulative but in the
beginning she kind of seems normal she gets very upset over small things and then fights with dom
she gets stressed when he doesn't show her affection or when he wants to break up the
messages are almost relatable to some degree until they're not relatable anymore mckenzie
is frequently texting dom things like why do you have to get mad when i just want to be around you
frowny face she's like i don't want to be around you i don't want to be around you i don't want to
be around you and like we're very familiar with mckenzie's five four three two one attitude
remember how she always does a countdown yeah she's like answer me now five four and she's just
like spamming non-stop okay answer me right now but early in 2020 in the beginning of their
relationship mckenzie doesn't really do stuff like that she just goes answer question mark
question mark question mark question mark and she's asking dom if she can come over and like
normally near the end in 2022 this is a 5-4-3-2-1 fight okay but instead she's like just let me come
just let me i'm literally begging you i'm supposed to not have stress this is just making it worse
please dom responds of course you just put it on me she begs him please don't do this to me i'm not
even trying to argue with you
you i'll literally just sit in your room if you want me to she just wants to come over other times
dom is not responding mackenzie is texting more normally like beb dom answer dom question mark
answer please are you gonna do me like this question mark it does seem like mackenzie in
the beginning is very clingy and it appears like she probably likes dom more than he likes her
is the feeling in one message she's texting him i don't want to fucking chill with carl then you're
just gonna get weird when i try to sit by you and i'm not dealing with that shit tonight other
messages she's saying things like i'm sorry for pissing you off can i come over soon or are you
working out soon some reason i keep waking up and thinking you're next to me when you're up just text
me please because i want to come over asap i want to have a fun day please let me come as soon as
you wake up you up babe can you answer my text or call we still do see glimpses of her losing her
patience and it is bad but it's like nothing compared to how bad it's going to get this is
like a walk in the park if you will she'll text him things like
are you working out or something can you at least tell me so i can come i'm getting anxiety
i hate waiting for you to text me back it takes so long please answer dom okay i've been waiting
since like 9 a.m can you please just fucking answer the phone okay i'm just gonna wait for
you guys anyway so whenever you answer i'm coming over the shit is worrying me please answer dom's
responses are definitely on the drier side and mackenzie will keep pleading with him i want
daytime with you i don't want to be laying around i want to do shit with you please i feel like you
hate me on the weekends please just reply fast dom this is the only time i'm going to be laying
around this is making me sad babe please i miss you i want to be around you please let me come
before four then i don't want to come please text back dom answer me so i can come over at 3 10
please it would mean everything if you let me come over soon i miss you and i want daytime with you
please let me babe please answer i'm ready to leave you just need to say i can come at 3 10
he just responds come at four so she texts like 10 texts and then he will respond yeah
but i mean to be fair i think she just like loves spamming people
because these 10 text messages are happening in the span of like a minute
yeah so it's not reading is always like she gets what she wanted very like always so she has not
it's not a natural like well you don't instantly get everything you ask for right like you don't
get warm milk at 3 a.m when you feel like it it's just not normal that nobody does that like yeah
give me warm milk right now at 3 a.m yeah it's weird it gets weirder because she starts attributing
it to anxiety so when he doesn't respond within two minutes she's not getting what she wants and
she keeps saying you're giving me anxiety but it's like no that's not anxiety that's just the feeling
of not getting what you want all the time yeah it's very strange so he responds come at four
okay that's fine please don't switch up on me on the time i'll be there at four thank you
she's almost like thanking him for letting her come over he's like to be honest i don't want
you to come then because he's like now you're just like doing a lot okay and she's like dom
please don't do this to me you're getting my hopes up then letting me down please just let me come
over 4 30 i didn't do anything and you're punishing me for nothing and it makes me feel like i'm
nothing please just four meet me in the middle i asked for three it would make me so happy please
please i have work early tomorrow and i want daytime with you please please do this for me
he responds i want to watch football with my bros i'll watch it too please four dom i'm begging you
dom mentions how mckenzie previously stated that she's done trying so he hits back with
no we're not trying no more remember and for real i never be chilling with mike who's mike i'm trying
i always try because i care about you why can't you just let me be alone i'm not trying no more
you do the little things that i'm asking for pretty like i'm asking for pretty much nothing
i just want to come over and spend time with you the two of them start talking about what to eat
for dinner and it appears in the beginning at least the main issue is that dom wants a lot of
space in the relationship he seems to value alone time free time alone time with his friends he
likes time to regroup is kind of what he insinuates but mckenzie wants to be around him a lot more
than he can handle so it's a lot of back and forth about space spending time together and judging by
the initial text messages it seems like they're not going to be able to be together for a long time
they are not necessarily a great match but maybe it works because in the beginning at least they're
both accommodating to some degree like they can just get over this whole like four o'clock 4 30
o'clock by just talking about what they want for dinner and the relationship moves on it's not
necessarily the case later on like they don't move on ever another argument seems to come from dom
saying that he's gonna get some work done mckenzie follows him this is what i like deduce from the
text messages okay because like things are happening in real life and then they love to fight in text
messages and then they get into a fight even when they're in the same house even when they're in
the same car even when they're in the same house it's very strange they're texting yeah they're
texting and fighting so mckenzie i think follows him to wherever he's trying to get work done and
they get into a fight and then mckenzie texts him i thought we would do our work together like i
don't see why i can't come out and do my work with you he says remember kenzie i have no tolerance
now you used it all up me wow and it shouldn't be too much to ask to just work on my computer alone
i'ma do my work so i thought i would come do mine too i'm not arguing about this now i'm not gonna
get anything done you don't have to just make me feel like i'm nothing every fucking time you get
mad don't just be like oh kenzie i want to work alone i haven't gotten anything done since monday
and you were asking me every two minutes to go to my room she's like just do your work he says
screw you stop getting mad over little shit for real like it's not a big deal like when i've been
doing nothing whatever go do your fucking work stop being mean to me maybe if we didn't have to
hang out every day i wouldn't get so mad at you maybe if i just got a little space we wouldn't
have to deal with these problems then ask for space all you have to do like it's not my fucking
fault you can just ask me like don't put everything on me fucking do your work i'm so mad right now
okay i will say an objective note here i do think that the way both of them communicate is probably
not great but they're also very young and i'm not entirely sure at this point if either if either of
them do or say anything that's out of the ordinary for a teenage relationship
but a few things to note in previous messages dom does ask for space a lot and mackenzie doesn't
like to give him the space he asks for maybe it's like an introvert extrovert dating one party needs
space the other one wants to be around the other maybe youth adds to the way they communicate but
when mackenzie is saying things like when you need space just ask for it this is not really like true
he asks a lot so he responds okay i want some space for the next three days she responds capital n word
three days and he's like okay i want some space for the next three days and he's like okay i want
three days question mark question mark it should be three months the conversation seems to die down
they make up and they go back to talking about what they want to eat for lunch but they do come
back to the topic where mackenzie senses dom is very upset and she asked did i do something sorry
if i did question mark question mark he's like not even worth trying to talk about it just don't
worry about it well i don't want to be mad like i want to fix whatever i did so did he get the three
days or they just move on same day they just move on the same day he does not get the three days
and so he's like it's the same thing
that we've been over a million times but still will never happen she's like space you can ask
for space beb anytime i told you that too no it doesn't work yes it does you can just ask and you
said i can come over i wouldn't have come if you needed space okay sure we'll try that don't come
over after school or tomorrow morning before to which she kind of proves his point by asking him
then so like they're still in the same house together so then she's like okay you want space
i'll give you space i won't come over tomorrow morning before she comes over i'll give you space
and i won't come over after but then she's like hold on can you hang out with me before i leave
tonight since i'm not going to see you tomorrow then because you don't want me to come over and
she's also confused why she can't come over tomorrow morning she says why tomorrow morning
too though i work tomorrow no but for real like my head is like overflowing boiling pot of water
because i shouldn't be begging to be alone or to even chill with my friends like he's very
frustrated and she keeps telling him it's okay just ask for space beb it's no big deal but when
he does she keeps calling me and i'm like okay i'm gonna go to school and i'm gonna go to school
and i'm questioning everything like why hang out with me now because i can't see you tomorrow
morning because you don't want me to come over tomorrow morning but also like why don't you want
me to come over tomorrow morning don responds i spend more time with you than anything else
i said a million times you can have your space like anything i can't even work on my school
work for an hour without you poking me every two minutes and then he does caps like you said said
keyword you don't actually do i don't want to be arguing i'm leaving soon but you're going to make
this hard if you're going to be mean about it i'm not trying to be mean about it i'm not trying to
i just never had to spend so much time with someone continuously it fucking sucks like i'm
with you more than anything like more than i'm with my other friends and family combined
i'm sorry you can ask for space dom i'll give it to you because i know you need your space
no you won't we've been over this like i don't want this to be a fight i'm literally sitting
here agreeing with you saying i'll give you space saying again we've done this fucking 50 times i
do like shouldn't make me mad like why and the worst part is that i always feel bad i shouldn't
feel bad that i'm being smothered i'm sorry see now i feel bad he expresses how frustrated he is
that he can't ever get space and she tells him that he just needs to say that and she can give
him space and he doesn't have to be so mean about it he tells her that he's using the restroom
so like all in this fight he's like okay i'm gonna go use the restroom and she texts him
i'm leaving at 11 can you at least come out and talk to me before i go i'm still shitting and no
you saw me earlier just go please i'm just so stressed out right now like i can never say
anything right i'm giving you the space you need i'm leaving and we don't even have to hang today
i also need dabs weed please come out do not say no one gives a fuck about what you say can you
think of a period when we didn't chill for more than two days probably only when we were broken
up okay to be honest we probably haven't even had over a day apart unless we were broken up
mackenzie ends up leaving but texting him throughout the day asking him what he's doing
so like the next day she doesn't come over in the morning
but she's like non-stop texting him all day when he just said i needed space okay
and he is on do not disturb mode and she's demanding to know
why he is ignoring her he finally responds and she wants to know why have you been ignoring me
i've been like calling and trying to text you for like three hours okay okay question mark see you
wonder why i'm always so sussed because you fucking don't text me at all when i'm not with
you and you text me back like that like what am i supposed to think i don't know text me back when
i text you because when you do this it makes me just want to come over no no question mark why
are you just being a dick who are you with no one then why are you being so mean i just want to
talk to you i don't want to have to make snap accounts because you're ignoring me and now my
head fucking hurts thanks so much for stressing me out all you have to do is text back and you
can't even do that okay i'll text you in 30 minutes i shouldn't have to beg you to text me
back you just ruined my fun because now i have to sit here and think about you yeah no it's worse
than that okay
you
I'm just going to have a little chat with you and then i'll see you guys in the next video
so mackenzie ends up leaving at 11 a.m right and the whole rest so she agreed i'm going to leave at
11 a.m and i'm not going to come tomorrow so they're not going to see each other the rest of
today and then she's not going to see him tomorrow okay not like a big ask if you ask me mackenzie
ends up leaving but texting him the entire day asking him what he's doing why he's ignoring her
why he's on do not disturb mode he finally responds and she wants to know why have you
been ignoring me i've been calling and trying to text you for like three hours okay okay see you
wonder why i'm always so sussed because you don't fucking text me at all when i'm not with you when
you text me back like that what the fuck am i supposed to think i don't know text me back when
i text you because when you do this it just makes me want to come over no no why are you just being
a dick who are you with no one then why are you being so mean i just want to talk to you i don't
want to have to make snap accounts because you're ignoring me and now my head fucking hurts thanks
so much for stressing me out all you have to do is text back and you can't even do that
wait so she left at 11 now it's three hours probably like 2 p.m yeah and she's flipping out
after the conversation they just had and where she said just ask for space bed just just she just
said that i won't yeah come over tomorrow i'll give you space oh just just wait because we're
gonna circle back to tomorrow okay so he's like okay i'll text you in 30 minutes i shouldn't have
to beg you to text me back you just ruined my fun because now i have to sit here and think about you
she eventually that night asked him to facetime
asks if she can come over in the morning the next morning she sends him a string of messages
asking to come over can i come over early please please you have to get me but please let me come
so not only does she want to go over she wants him to come pick her up and take her over so what
happened to like she agreed i won't come over tomorrow nothing happened she just goes back
changed her mind yeah right okay yeah because it's like no longer that fight so now it's like
an hour later and she has a goldfish brain i see yeah but please let me come because i work today
and i want to hang out before i have a shitty shift he just texts why mackenzie responds with
a string of messages why question mark come on i miss you i want to see you please don't be like
this babe please i want to come over please dom please dom i've been waiting at my phone please
answer me and let me come babe please answer i've just been sitting here waiting for you to answer
please dom let me come at 10 it's 9 16 the only reason i got up is because i thought you were
gonna let me come over and you're literally making me walk and now you can't even text me back like
it's literally freezing outside and you're making me walk and you can't even give me a right i'm
crying so hard saying i miss you and you're just sitting there like it's fucked up dom responds my
back won't stop hurting so his back was hurting from basketball i'm not trying to get dressed i
don't know man why are you doing this to me it's making me so sad like if you let me come now i
could maybe get a ride mackenzie expresses that she's crying so hard and if he doesn't text her
back she's gonna be so upset and flip out to which dom says she always thinks that crying is gonna
let him let her come over and he still remembers that she's crying so hard and if he doesn't text
that she mentioned that she knows how to fake cry but mackenzie begs to come over saying she's upset
for real because she's she's crying and she's upset for real i think their relationship and
communication styles are vastly different but i'm unsure how much age factors into all of that
but i will say that both of them do use the n-word slur throughout their text messages
in the beginning like a lot it is the most egregious thing at this point in their relationship
and they get into arguments and it's just i i'm just gonna give you like a forewarning trigger
warning like if you end up with the message you're gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god
it's it's just a lot they do get into arguments about whether or not dom is going to take mackenzie
to his prom so he's two years and 11 months older and it doesn't seem like he can so each school
seems to have differing age or class limits for guests so some schools as long as you are a high
schooler you can be a guest to prom but the student that is purchasing the tickets to prom
has to be an upperclassman some schools you also have to be an upperclassman to be a guest to the
prom right so you have to be an upperclassman to be a guest to the prom so you have to be an
so there's just like a lot of rules and it seems in this case mackenzie is upset because he can't
bring her to prom and she says it's funny how you act around kyle stop acting like a fucking dick
i do so much for you like how do you think i feel right now wait so he he can't take mackenzie did
he take somebody else or no he was just gonna go alone with his friends his guy friends but those
guy friends have girlfriends right oh and he's explaining i don't know i can't just not go to
prom so she's almost like asking then you shouldn't even go to prom in general and then i i don't know
if this is right after that i don't know if this is right after that i don't know if this is right
after prom it sounds like it is it sounds like there's some sort of after party they refer to it
as the cabins and he says i'll let you go to cabins though and she says no and you're gonna be
taking nice pics there and be happy there when at homecoming they had gone to homecoming together
you were such a dick that was my first normal hoko like yeah she keeps calling it hoko for
homecoming and he's like come on i'm gonna get you into cabins like i didn't want to go to hoko
she responds but now you want to look all nice and take pics when i'm not even there like why
can't you do this what do you mean who's gonna take pics you're getting mad at me like can't
you just let me be upset about it like it fucking sucks for me to see you go to prom with all your
friends who are going with their girls and i'm just gonna be sitting at home and he reiterates
i'm gonna let you go to cabins but mackenzie eventually gets distracted because she notices
there is a girl staring at dom so that this is when i find out they're at a party and texting and
fighting okay so they had a party and they're like i'm gonna go to cabins and i'm gonna go to
and like that's why she was mentioning kyle and then she's like noticing a girl staring at dom
apparently and she says why is she looking at your pants why is she only talking to you what
the fuck so are you only gonna talk to her too weird ass what the fuck is your issue are you
trying to make me mad i'm not trying to do what what do you mean i'm mad as fuck at you right now
ask angelo to come get us i want to leave so angelo is dom's brother who i guess is there
right for the night i did then tell him to hurry i don't want to be here when she keeps looking you
your pants and your shit how weird of course she's so interested and kyle's a dick for leaving
her alone with us maybe because it's awkward as fuck right now so like he's saying like she's
probably making these comments because it's awkward like what is how can you just start
texting about cabins and prom right in front of me and say i can't go and expect me not to be mad
and sad i said you can go to cabins kyle just fucking said i can't go to cabins with y'all
unless i go to prom like i want to wear a cute dress and look bomb with you and she keeps talking
to you bruh
for a good chunk in the beginning of 2020 a lot of their issues seem like very normal high school
couple issues mackenzie will tell dom once he wakes up there's a fucking issue i need your help
what's up babe i need your help posting a pic where you at she'll tell him about how she got
her nails done texting him i want to show you my nails really bad dom you better let me show you
my nails dom he says he's with his mom right now facetime me when you go to your room my nails
look so good when you're gonna facetime she texts him about dreams she has oh my god so we were
gonna go to my house and i'm gonna go to my house and i'm gonna go to my house and i'm gonna go to
my house and i'm gonna go to my house and i'm gonna go to my house and i'm gonna go to my house and
somehow i seen audrey's private story and you were smoking a wood with her at her house and i
was like what the fuck then i seen another snap and i seen y'all were at your house so i pulled up
and she was walking out your front door and i walked up to her but she was hitting back and you
were just like yo and then i woke up in another thread mackenzie is upset that dom didn't kiss her
goodbye which he argues that he did but she says you didn't kiss you just put your lips out it's
okay if you didn't mean to do it but you did you didn't mean to do it but you didn't mean to do it
you know it made me sad he tries to get her to read a book and she's he says he it'll help her
so he reads a lot of like self-help books and she says i don't like to read my brain my brain is too
scrambled reading will help unscramble it and then the same fight over and over again about how dom
wants space mackenzie says all he has to do is ask he says that's not true because she's just
gonna non-stop text him and beg to come over she will argue that he's being mean to her about it
when he can just nicely tell her he needs space and then she's gonna give him space and round and
this very vicious carousel ride and in the beginning dom initiates a lot of breakups or at
least breaks in their relationship and most of those he says is because he just needs space he
feels like he can't get space unless he literally asks her for a breakup but mackenzie argues that
every time they go on break something bad happens and interestingly even when they discuss going on
break dom gives her a time frame he'll be like we're on break until valentine's day which is
about a seven day break but then mackenzie will almost like negotiate she's like that's too long
it needs to be shorter it's like a very long time to negotiate and then mackenzie argues that
interesting back and forth about like what is the appropriate number of days for their break
do they go on break barely yeah she'll just like non-stop harass him again
so then they never actually broke up not really yeah but i think near the end it seems like he
wants to yeah ultimately that specific fight ends with dom going off on mackenzie and it's a pretty
intense fight and he mentions how he feels like she snakes her way around and always gets what she
wants like he almost insinuates when she comes over she somehow snakes around
and like makes the fight disappear is the vibe which it comes off like she's very manipulative
she disagrees saying she never gets what she wants dom tries to point out all the things that bother
him such as you know the fact that mackenzie is always texting his brothers what always mackenzie
is always texting his brothers when he's not responding for like two minutes to which he's
asking why like why are you doing that and she says in caps to get you to text back which i think
he's it's the point he's trying to make you know and dom gets so fed up he threatens to call
mackenzie's mom and ask her mom to not bring her over to her house his house anymore because at
this point mackenzie doesn't have a driver's license and mackenzie says if he does that she's
going to self-exit he starts going off on her that saying that he's also dealing with mental
health struggles he's hurting too and he just wants to hurt alone and she won't give him alone
time mackenzie does point out that when they were on break previously dom hooked up with somebody
else but eventually they make up
they make up from this fight only to fight again and mackenzie asked to come over but he says he's
gonna facetime her instead and she starts texting him dom it's not that easy i miss you i haven't
seen you and you've just been saying no i'm bawling my fucking eyes out begging you to let
me come please answer dom oh my god please don't do this to me it's gonna kill me please don't
my head i'm my head is already hurting please just let me come and see you i'll leave after 30
minutes i don't care i just want to talk to you and see you please understand that dom please answer
he responds stop babe you can
come over tomorrow they have this whole back and forth where she says she can't because she already
told him a trillion times that she has work tomorrow but he offers that they can hang out
for an hour before work and she thinks an hour is not enough he tells her that only she can make
herself happy because she starts like blaming anxiety like you know how stressed i already am
and you're making it worse and he tries to tell her like you need to find happiness within yourself
at some point he tells her kenzie i need to find myself i don't know who i am anymore so just let
me be for a little
okay and he ends up texting her back hey sorry babe i was being mean i don't want to be mean
do you want to come over and smoke and then i can drive you to work but then they very quickly get
into another fight with a very familiar premise mackenzie rants about how her mom natalie makes
her life hard yeah she thinks her mom is really hard on her and how natalie always calls herself
the peacekeeper but then she does things like change mackenzie's curfew from 9 p.m to 11 p.m
so she extended it two hours right which is what mackenzie wanted but according to mackenzie quote
so i got her to say 11 then she's like fine but i'm not telling you when i'm coming
so like she's not going to give her a heads up when she drives over there
i don't know what yeah so then mackenzie is like like what the she wonders why my head
hurts every day and why i have so much anxiety i feel like she's trying to trap me like what's
going on she also states that dom gives her anxiety when he doesn't respond quickly enough which makes
sense if maybe he's driving or he's out at night or he's doing something that would maybe cause
anxiety but just responding about what time she can come over she tells him please answer fast
i'm getting anxiety during one disagreement mackenzie tells dom i literally had no one last
night gracie bitched me out over some gay shit and it hurt like i was alone i realized i don't
really have anyone he tells her kenzie in the end you really have no one besides your family
and don't take anything gracie says to heart you know she's not the brightest and even people
his family will them over so he's just like coming from a place of like you can't really
need someone all the time i need more than family i need friends and support i can't take the hate
i'm literally sad i've been trying so hard to get hyped and have fun but in my brain keeps
making me think too deep and i've been having these dreams and it's killing me and i needed
you last night and you went on do not disturb mode and i didn't know what to do it was terrible i was
at a really low point if you think you need friends and support then you do if you don't think you do
then you don't do you see what i'm getting at things will only bother you if you let them
i think i got a book that can really help you it's not really long either i haven't read it yet though
dumb i try so hard with a lot of and it's like a lot when you feel like it's surreal
i can try reading but makes me feel weird see you've got to get out of that mindset
you've been in the wrong mindset for too long you got to think like me and grab life by the
balls and only you have control over your brain he tells her to read the book to which she responds
psychological books make me feel bad about myself or like weird i don't know i can't
get off at 6 30 if you want to take dabs and talk about it and you can give me the book see if they
make you feel weird or bad then you need to change something all you're doing is limiting yourself
it's not like guilt it just makes me feel weird it's so hard for me to change sometimes i just
give up because i feel like i can't i feel like i'm just hated on every day for nothing
i don't know why she has so many haters like you're just a high schooler like
who who has that many haters it somehow morphs into a fight where mackenzie says that dom
wouldn't understand because he hasn't seen her so how would he know what she's going through
like they haven't hung out in a day or two to which he says it's been two days i haven't
seen my grandma in three years stop making excuses and stop giving a he does
give advice aggressively and it's a lot it could be age could be just different communication styles
but i guess he thinks it's best for mackenzie right and he's just reminding her at the end
of the day that all she has is herself but she says if i do this you got to be there for me dom
so she's like if i stop smoking weed and like read this book you got to be there for me and he's like
no i don't you have to be there for yourself i can die tomorrow your mom could die your dad your
whole family who knows i don't want to go through this alone babe you're not always going
to have people there for you so don't expect it or care reading a book yeah what is she whining about
we don't know yeah i mean there were so many times we would like pause we're all sitting around the
table and i'm like save me someone and we're all like what's happening like we would have to read
the same page over and over again because we're like wait are we sure this is what she means and
it's like yes no this is we this is why she's complaining she's like i don't like to think
about people dying i'm going through my own stuff alone in real it's reality anyone can die
in a later text dawn reminds her any day it could happen and boom i'm gone
a few days later mackenzie goes on to complain about being at work and quote
jayla f slurs here today whoa she also rants about other fake friends that she has
bruh i hate aj and joey so much like broke ass n words that i smoked up and plus rides
all summer and they can't even answer me to chill with me but they can hang out with amory
like makes me so mad fake as i hate how everyone busy 24 7 if they not i get ignored by literally
everyone in the world i'm so mad why do fake people love me then she'll just start off a new
morning with a positive good morning text what a way to start a day good morning bebs today i got
woken up by a woodpecker picking up my house non-stop i woke up so mad bro that bird
can off then a few mornings later but i woke up at 6 20 a.m and my room literally smelled
like i had to get up and spray perfume i was so mad i'm laughing because tom's response is crazy
okay sorry she's like i had to get up and spray perfume i was so mad dumb response did you
like it i'm sorry like we were literally losing our minds reading these messages
no dom it was a phantom smell you're probably
you sure it wasn't just your upper lip my lip are you saying i smell bib
yeah it could just be you're smelling your upper lip
no it's like when a ghost visits you and they have a smell lmao definitely wasn't my lip smelled so
bad by spring of 2020 i was like what the hell is going on with my lips i don't even know what i'm
talking about i don't even know what's going on with my lips i don't even know what's going on with my lips
i don't even know what's going on with my lips i don't even know what's going on with my lips i don't even know what's going on with my lips
mackenzie starts getting more aggressive with fights
with dom and i mean nowhere near where she ends up just a bit more aggressive than how she started
saying things like quote in caps i'm not playing your annoying ass games later they make up and
mackenzie texts corona is now a global pandemic but she spells it c-a-r-o-n-a corona then later
she rants yeah what the i hate chinese oh my god oh and but she spells it ch i
n-i-s-e then she starts freaking out about not having groceries in the house she didn't say
anything just just oh she's like why the fuck are you eating bats like something like that
oh because of i see i see okay yeah then she starts freaking out about not having groceries
in the house and mackenzie asks what if people run out of milk or like important shit like that
he reassures her that they have a ton of noodles and potatoes so it's going to be fine because she
loves noodles and potatoes i feel better now thank you bb spring of 2020
they start getting into fights because mackenzie doesn't like that dom's guy friends take too much
of his time away and she says i'm so done with broke ass and word taking time with you like yeah
be cool with broke and dom totally works okay it's just funny call and all the and i don't know
what this word means g-o-o-n-s so i don't know if i okay anyway and all the g-o-o-n-s can come with
you but i can't and i'm way fucking better than all of them she starts
freaking out a bit more when he doesn't respond and it just feels like it goes from i'm anxious
please don't do this to me to more of an angry quote and what you did yesterday not happening
tonight text back right now here we fucking go again question mark question mark it's really
that hard to text me back i'm for real done question mark question mark leave me on read
again she says that he's ignoring her and choosing to chill with a fucking loser over her i could for
real fuck someone up right now i'm so mad tell him to gtfo he's a bitch fucking taking up time
i could have been with you send his ugly ass the fuck home and get me
mom tells her chill out or we're not chilling today i could probably fuck carl up right now
and i'm not about to chill out when you're with that slow ass you can come get me
at 9 p.m. and Carl better not be near answer faster drop his ugly ass the fuck off then get
me she starts sending texts after text in caps come come right now and get me right now she ends
up walking to his house and waiting for him to get back and she's angrily texting him the whole time
if you don't come soon I'm about to be so mad come right now or or I'll find where the fuck you are
and pull up I'm done with your gay ass games you play 24 7 come back are you dumb come back right
now you literally annoying how do you just do this I'm waiting how you're about to get bitched
out come right now like I don't know what is wrong with you I'm about to just go into your room you're
a dick she starts freaking out in all caps that she had to walk into the rain she starts freaking
out in all caps that she had to walk to his house in the rain which he didn't ask for her to come
over like she just wanted to because he wasn't responding and he has five minutes to come back
she says I've never been this mad at you I could for real punch you like 20 times but Carl and AJ
they could be dead right now I hope Carl gets his ass robbed and beat up and AJ can
just suck a dick get in your car and drive the fuck home so he's still not home and she walks
in the rain to his house and is like waiting for him to come home they make up and bicker for the
next few days and every time I'm reading I feel like I have no clue if a big fight is about to
break out or if they're just gonna get over it in like two seconds Mackenzie texts I'm about to be
so mad why I haven't ate all day okay then I asked my mom to make me mashed potatoes then she makes
them I'm excited as fuck to eat them and then I look at them and can already tell they're different
fucking take a bite and they were like watered down and all weird yay now my dinner is lemon
water exclamation exclamation exclamation so then you learn to make something for yourself
don't just not eat and complain that attitude would kill you just go make something else
I can actually make a lot of fucking things myself then do it I don't like when you say
shit like that I know you're not trying to be mean but like stop look you're just complaining
you know more just go make your food I was craving mashed potatoes
n-word I'm for real about to be mad a few fights later another variation of a similar fight shows
up Dom suggests that they take a break and he says Kenzie I think we should take a break again it'll
be good for both of us we haven't been getting along and you need to make some friends I stopped
texting for a second and you flip like I could be I could be texting my mom I got a phone call or
anything and just flip they go back and forth while Dom tries to explain no Kenzie I need my
space I want to do more me not we right now okay and I'm sorry but I think we should separate for a
little bit
she responds and I will be honest when you're out this late and being mean I feel like you're with
another girl like I know you wouldn't but it stresses me out and not until we talk in person
so she's like this break is not happening until we talk in person why I don't want to talk about
it in person can you FaceTime me when I'm home I don't want to text about it I don't want to have
to deal with your emotions what the fuck I don't want to deal with your anger but I do this is why
we separate we are not separate we are now separated no we are
together no we are gonna separate no we are not what is wrong with you we are not breaking up are
you trying to fucking hurt me no I'm not I'm trying to help you it'll probably be better in
the end she ends up going to his house and he tells her if that's the case he's not gonna come
back home because he's not home right now and she pleads with him I'm crying my ass off I literally
hate my life everyone I'm so loyal to fucks me over please be here for me Dom Kenzie I want to
it's just hard right now instead of coming back Dom posts on Instagram essentially subbing me
tweeting Mackenzie like saying something like girls be crazy I don't know something like that
okay and of course it kickstarts a full unleashing of fuck you text messages from Mackenzie to Dom
are you fucking dumb come back right now you never do shit for me you lie fuck me over and talk to
other girls I bet Hannah with you right now I will fuck everyone up get back home right now
I'm I'm just gonna self-exit fuck you I'm done with life I'm in your room and we're if you don't
come there's gonna be an issue I will straight up flip out in here and there's a big one on the
fuck up get back now and we're you are a fake ass you fake you a liar she texts him fuck you 15 times
in a row she tells him she took three shots of his Patron the tequila I hate you so much I drank
hella Patron too bleep fuck you if you sleep at Carl's we probably gonna have to break up I'm so
done with you being a liar sad you're r-worded ass choices make me have to lose my whole other
family you're pathetic as fuck Kenzie we need to break up it'd be better for both of us
look and if time goes by and we still feel the same way we can get back together cuz real love
never dies Mackenzie refuses and tells Dom that she feels dizzy and like her head is going to
explode and that she tastes blood texting I taste fucking blood I keep throwing up my head is
pounding and nobody here is here for me I'm puking right now this is after she drank like yeah yeah
but I don't know if three shots I mean like the way that she consumes like her weed consumption
alone I don't know if she's like a lightweight where she's just like but again it just seems kind
of manipulative to drink and then yeah saying like this is all your fault he begs her not to
do this to him and she says I'm puking help it's foam I'm going to die I'm scared I mean this is
like highly manipulative behavior they make up and then there's more fighting about space hanging out
not hanging out don't leave me on read again huge chunk of their fights along with whether or not
Mackenzie is gonna come over or not and there are times where Mackenzie will get I will say there
are times where Mackenzie will get ready at 3:00 p.m.
and wait until 8 p.m asking to come over and it's very clear that dom tries not to give her an
answer because when he says no she flips out and will probably show up so she get ready before
even knowing yeah so it's like her fault right but she does like she never gets a no from him
so like throughout the day she'll be like can i come over and then he'll be like we'll see
right but then also when he does give a no it's like a huge blowout fight so i can see at their
ages why this becomes a problem right you know dom tells her that he doesn't know if he wants
to hang out he wants to hang out with his brother and like these to me i guess that's like a very
passive person maybe it's like oh he's trying to say no without saying no right but where he'll
say things like i want to run errands and focus on myself and there's another fight where she
literally follows him on foot i think they were like leaving i don't know she follows him on foot
okay and dom's confused why he says you should have just
stayed there i don't know why you left to find you because you're a fucking dick so you left
me here walking fuck you i hate you you're a liar you fucking left me here out here
fuck you i told you i'm cold and my socks are wet i didn't know you were walking i told you i was
you fucking dick you really left me out here walking when i told you i'm cold and my socks
are wet you fucking left me everyone in my life just treats me like shit it's always the people
you love the most that fuck you over the hardest and then you just don't care at all she reiterates
in caps i told you i told you i was cold i told you my socks were wet and you didn't care
he says i told you to go home because it's cold in another version of there are many many fights
where dom wants to break up and mackenzie doesn't at some point mackenzie texts out of nowhere i
think my leg is bleeding it's bleeding in three spots and it's stinging now we can talk or i'll
leave you and you can keep acting like a baby because if you fuck me over i'm gonna tell my
mom what happened today my leg is fucked up skin is peeling so she's almost like insinuating like
she's gonna tell her mom that he did something to her leg so we're still in 2020 right now right
yeah yeah
okay and what percentage of their text message are them fighting at this point 70 percent okay
so 70 fighting and then the other 30 percent they're what what are they talking about like
nothing nothing and it's a lot of like dom trying to accommodate mackenzie but also like dom will
fight back more in 2020 yeah so in like 2020 he's like read a book no one's gonna be there for you
everyone dies
right but then 2021 and progressively he just gets more and more accommodating where he just
starts apologizing for everything even though it's not really his fault really yeah until
like june july like middle of 2022 right before he passes he starts like bringing back like no i'm
ready to break up interesting but it's less emotional so in 2020 when he's breaking up he's
still like you sound like you just won't speak
yes but in 2022 it's like okay like if you want to break up i'm more than happy to break up like i
can't do it it's less emotional it's more like yeah then i think we should break up i see yeah
and so she's insinuating like he might have done something to her leg but don responds you shouldn't
have been flinging around like a maniac so it seems like it's kind of a weird area of like i don't know
what happened to her leg and this is like another thing that happens that's been highly debated about
the whole car you know steering wheel thing a few like two weeks before their deaths do you remember
so like i'm trying to get an understanding but like he never i don't know if he did do something
to her leg like what would he say but it just seems like he didn't because he's like you
shouldn't have been flinging around like a maniac right she says i swear to god both my legs are
bleeding and cut open they are stinging and my head it's throbbing like are you heartless all
you had to do is fucking talk to me but you make everything so much worse so i imagine if don actually
did something to her leg like what would he say like i don't know if he did something to her leg
she will bring it up non-stop yeah and like record it yeah i mean she's already accusing him of oh
you're with this girl you're probably cheating you're this you're that right and then even this
message i thought was enlightening because he's like you were flinging around like a maniac and
she says all you had to do was fucking talk to me not like you grabbed my leg yes you threw
something like it's like not an accusation it's like exactly why couldn't you just do something
for me yeah comfort me yeah and he responds i'm sorry but you did that to your leg
yourself you don't even care my legs are cut open i do but you did do that to yourself that
was not cool we should probably go on a break another interesting thing is
A lot of times when Mackenzie gets bored, she says it's stressing her out.
She means it genuinely.
If I'm bored, it's stressing me out.
Yeah, she'll be like, I'm so bored.
It's stressing me the fuck out.
And it's so bizarre.
Like what is happening in her brain?
She demands that Dom hang out with her, which usually results in a full blown argument.
But it's interesting that she gets stressed when she's bored.
Another fight, Dom says he has to shower and then he can hang out with her.
But that kick starts an argument about whether he should shower or not.
He's pro shower.
She's anti shower, of course.
And that fight lasts about an hour.
Like he could have showered in that time.
Yeah.
But mid 2020, she's still able to apologize after fights, saying things like, I'm sorry
if I was being a brat.
I wasn't trying to.
I was just hurt that you didn't want to come.
I really wanted you to come.
I really don't want to lose you, Dom.
You're my babe and my best friend, and I can't imagine life without you.
Dom tries to tell her you can be soulmates and not ready for each other.
I really can't lose you, Dom.
In another fight, Dom explains he had to block Mackenzie because he was getting heated and
she was sending pictures of herself crying, which again, seems like highly manipulative
behavior, which she says, I wasn't crying.
It was supposed to be a joke.
Whenever you do that, I immediately block.
What joke?
So she's saying, I wasn't crying.
It was a joke.
But then he's like, whenever you do that, I immediately block.
So he's like, if you send me pictures of you crying, I'm going to block.
So it seems I don't know if it was a joke, right?
They fight copious amounts of times because he has his phone.
And on do not disturb mode, which she despises with a fire burning passion.
And she texts him.
I thought you were done doing that.
Like, why are you even on D&D?
Dom, like, what is going on?
Fucking embarrassing.
Like, how the fuck can you go from having a convo with me to going on?
Do not disturb and ignoring me.
Like, it makes no sense.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Then when Mackenzie is not fighting with Dom, she rants about her mom.
Basically, Natalie tells Mackenzie she has a dental procedure so she cannot get high on wheat.
But then that gets canceled.
She does end up going and she gets her mouth numbed.
But they don't go.
They go through with the procedure.
But Mackenzie believes her mom lied to her to, I guess, prevent her from getting high.
But she's so mad.
She says she could kill somebody.
I didn't smoke for four days for fucking nothing.
Dom doesn't see it as a big deal.
So naturally, there's a big fight.
Dom tells her a lot of people have seen way worse days.
Well, I'm not talking about other people, Dom.
I'm talking about this house.
The dentist fucked me over.
And now I have to sit here on two different medicines that I have no clue what they are
with a numb ass mouth.
I don't even I can't even do duck lips.
He tells her, but yeah, stop complaining.
People seen way worse days.
Life is a blessing.
Who cares?
It's over.
I care because I just wasted my fucking day.
She also spells wasted like a waste, like your little hips and waist.
Yeah, and I wasted and she does it again.
So this is intentional.
I wasted four days of not smoking that I could have smoked.
Who cares if you didn't smoke for four days?
I care.
It doesn't matter now.
The fight goes back and forth.
Before he tells her, stop fucking bothering me like the fuck.
I have so much shit.
And if I don't answer your text for five minutes, you got to call me like, fuck out of here.
Remember what I said about people stressing me and wasting my time?
She calls him out for being mean and not sympathizing with her when he doesn't see this as a big
deal.
And the climax of the fight seems to end with Dom telling her, you're worried about your
teeth.
I'm worried about my future.
So there is a big discrepancy where Dom feels a lot of like pressure from.
Um, like there's just a lot of pressure.
Maybe he puts it on himself.
Maybe it's just, I don't know.
Right.
But he feels a lot of pressure to make it out and make money.
He wants to support his mom.
Um, he has a brother who, well, I mean, this is all in the FOIA, but he does
have a brother who is, um, dependent on their mother and he lives in the house
with her and he is much older, but it seems like he will need care for the rest of his
life.
And so I think that's a huge stress.
I think that's a huge stress.
health he frequently gets headaches he continues to say nah i just suck 19 isn't going anywhere
neither is 20 so he's saying like he doesn't really see a strong future for himself babe don't
say that or any other year of my life you're one year closer to being a millionaire billionaire
yeah nah all that shit overplayed my mom said i'll never do it and just to go back to college
oh my god why would she say that you are the smartest person i ever met dom you will be rich
as fuck one day dom continues i'm just a kid who throws temper tantrums to her very little credit
mckenzie tries to comfort him but um dom ends up just kind of spiraling and he tells mckenzie to
get some sleep since she has school the next day and reminds her not to smoke because it'll cause
her to oversleep so he's still like trying to and she says remember don't let anyone tell you you're
not going to make it because i know you are right now i don't know right now you don't but you tell
me all the time
that you will be rich so stop telling yourself you're not because one person said you weren't
babe i love you yeah but like even if i did get rich then nothing it doesn't mean anything if i'm
not happy how do you know you won't be happy you're still a kid until like 25 it's now 4 a.m
on dom's birthday and after staying up all night with him mckenzie texts you have so much time
dom responds i don't remember being fully happy maybe when i was little the two talk a little bit
more and dom brings up that he
is just not in a good place and the two text until they fall asleep and wake up a few hours later
dom does not end up having a good birthday and by 2 p.m he texts mckenzie how can i face the enemies
outside if i can't face them within myself unsurprisingly at this point mckenzie starts
whining and asks if she's the problem and it's just like a it's just weird and then um there
are times like i said in the relationship where still there are normal times like mckenzie's
and when they're stable it just seems like a regular schmigular relationship dom is messaging
her babe what if we were rock stars and sends her a tiktok what if i was like van halen or prince
well who would i be i don't know and she says lmao find a rock star with a girl
they also do things like play mobile games together specifically brawl stars which is
objectively like kind of a fun game but dom asked her to play and they go through a round and then
mckenzie is like oh yeah i was driving which he's wondering how she's playing brawl stars if she's
driving and it's a game that she's playing and she's like oh yeah i was driving and she's
where you do need both your hands yeah they also play word hunt and chess which is surprising on
mckenzie's part she doesn't like to read because it scrambles her already scrambled brain but
maybe she's good at chess on october 26 2020 the two get off of facetime a half hour before
midnight and mckenzie is blowing up at dom for not helping her pick an outfit for school
dom tries to help and mckenzie continues to get more and more anxious she's sending him
pictures of her closet and outfits and by midnight mckenzie texts him
i just have the urge to hit the fuck out of my head i'm not going to but that's how my anxiety
is making me feel right now question mark question mark question mark dom ignores this comment and
continues talking about the outfit options and she says dom i can't do this i'm freaking out like
literally tweaking they make my body look weird and now my hand hurts so bad dom tells mckenzie
a little past midnight he's like look to be honest just don't go to school like i really can't do
this anymore it's been an hour and a half thanks dom that's such good advice to give you to your
most likely failing class that's failing most classes they chat about another outfit option
then dom responds okay well then maybe if you focus more on school work then what outfits to
wear you'd get better grades i'm done the two fight in their usual fashion once more about
all of this and mckenzie eventually ends up going to sleep a few days later mckenzie hears sirens
and texts dom specifically if he's okay he jokes i'm in the ambulance i'm dying she says stop don't
even joke i'm for real don't i'm already about to panic he says they shot me like tupac
dom then tells mckenzie he's just joking halloween rolls around and the two seem to be back to normal
and mckenzie even mentions she wants to trick or treat she's 16 by the way but dom offers to take
her even though it's really cold outside the next few days the two are super lovey-dovey over text
she's like my my tummy feels weird he says it's because you need your bib i really want to lay
with you i always do i love you i puked bib dom goes on to ask her if she's been drinking water
eating if she ate something bad all the normal like your
partneristic stuff he even asks her if she ate too much halloween candy the two talk about
cuddling and dom leans into all the cutesy relationship stuff but it doesn't really last
for long november 2nd they're arguing again and it's a big fight mckenzie i'm just trying to chill
with sheen for a little and give him some good vibes he's literally telling us about how lexi
ruined his life mckenzie doesn't get it she's like okay i just don't see why i can't come we've been
talking about chilling all day and on god i might just have to beat lexi's ass and her baby they get
back together and they get back together and they get back together and they get back together and
ruin her night again and being mean because he wants to hang out with his friend alone without
her they fight they make up and by the next evening they're fighting all over again and
mckenzie asked dom does it make you happy to make me someone that's been sad for days even more
fucking sad like i just hit my head on my phone and you just like stay there like i'm in shock
just over the same thing they make up and within a few days they're fighting all over again all
because dom unads mckenzie on snapchat and mckenzie is constantly reminding dom to turn his red
red receipts on she spells it
red like the color by the way so maybe that's why he's not turning it on but at this point are we
even surprised then they start fighting about dom not hanging out with her and hanging hanging up
on her mid-call which she says was by accident and she's still upset all of this doesn't really
seem to faze mckenzie because every time again they try to break up she's not having it so she's
like constantly complaining but then never wants to break up he texts her november 23rd 2020 he
texts her around 10 in the morning honestly kenzie i'm really sad babe what happened i
can come right to your house and wait for you do you want me to bring pulp it's like a restaurant
i don't know to be honest i don't know what's wrong with me well i do but i don't well what
do you think it is babe is it me i'm worried about you i think i figured it out what is it babe i
don't know what love is i really thought about it you know and i have no idea what it is and part of
it is he blames a family member part of it is my um family member's fault because he was a terrible
family member and role model and i didn't feel enough love by him i guess that's why i'm like
i'd rather refuse than ask because i never wanted it in the first place so he's just describing like
childhood trauma and mckenzie responds surprisingly well babe love is a weird thing no one really
understands it i feel loved by you though and i love you a lot i don't know they move on and
another interesting tidbit in their never-ending conversation is mckenzie is at work and some and
mentions that someone had a seizure and an ambulance had to come and i know that pots is not epilepsy
right but i just figured if she really wanted to be with me i would have to go to the hospital
because she really struggled that with that she seems like the type to make everything about her
she doesn't really she doesn't seem phased what what does she not seem phased like she doesn't
say oh my god it really scared me because i have pots like she just is like oh yeah they had to get
an ambulance because someone had a seizure at work i just thought it's weird that she doesn't play it
up which is kind of i imagine her to be the type to be like i'm puking right now because i'm so
scared for myself then other messages dom has to tell mckenzie uh in text messages step by step
how to cook bacon and around that time dom blows up on her dude i'm
literally freaking out like you live in this little perfect world with barely any problems
and i have all this shit going on and you just want to stress me to the point where i want to
just like kill people like fuck off kenzie you don't know what the fuck's going on dom does
continue to struggle with his mental health and at times he will spiral and mckenzie maybe tries
to comfort him by saying things like your body renews yourself every seven years she tells him
if you do anything you're gonna break my heart like what hurt yourself just do anything that'll
hurt you it'll hurt me better
call me i'll be okay no you won't i won't either and not even a little hour later mckenzie whines
at her very clearly struggling boyfriend the fact that you've left me on red three times in a row
says it all i'm done for today dom continues to tell mckenzie about his mental health struggles
he's texting her about it and apparently she's driving and she ignores all of that and asks him
can i get my charger so i can take dabs i tried to use my chromebook charger and it didn't work
can i i'm about to pass it's in the kitchen never mind i already passed your house
he says yeah i'm looking don't even try anymore i already passed your house mckenzie continues to
complain about her dabs and her pen charger and even after dom tries helping her telling her to
try youtube to figure it out about how to charge it on a chromebook charger she says it's just
annoying when i could have just picked it up from your house dom does his best to de-escalate the
situation and even tells mckenzie i'm sorry i was mean earlier babe and usually when i say i
want to self-exit is it's kind of like after i start being mean and i regret it and i just feel
worse like he's like i'm not gonna do it again i'm not gonna do it again i'm not gonna do it again
he's saying it just makes him spiral yeah but you saying that just makes me feel worse it was a
terrible day me too babe i'll take you out to dinner soon and we'll have fun the nice crab
place in cleveland i love you babe all i want is for you to be nice and give me attention
i just think that's crazy okay like i just think that's crazy and maybe age plays a huge role but
he's clearly struggling like reading through these messages regardless of how people will
feel about individuals like i think self-exit is a very hard topic
to approach and he's clearly struggling and her priority is not for him to be happy is not for him
to be stable but for him to be nice to her and give her attention it's just such a odd juxtaposition
in the messages both mckenzie and dom though egregiously use the n-word slur towards each
other particularly when fighting and even at times casually just january 2021 they start off the year
talking about the insurrection but they're not talking about the insurrection they're talking about
on January 6th, so Dom seems to be talking about how Democrats
have stated that Trump supporters were you know rushing to the capitol to protect racism so like
that was kind of like a headline from the left side which he said he found the narrative dumb
he says how fucking r-worded can you be maybe because the whites ain't robbing and looting the
city maybe because they just protesting not hurting anyone not hitting people with rocks or robbing
people just protesting sure they climbed some building but okay better than setting things on
the street on fire ruining their own fucking city dumbass honestly I hope the black dude just gets
shot up because they so fucking dumb no wonder the cops shoot them protecting racism question
mark how dumb can they be it was because election fraud also they ain't running in businesses and
stealing shit they just went in the capitol Mackenzie says she feels like both are bad and
she hates violence and destruction she does say that obviously the cops are going to like I guess
white people better
that's what it seems like she's referring she says if they if they were saying a cabin so she
I think she's trying to say a cab if they were saying a cab fuck the cops I'm sure they would
be hitting them and killing them too dumb continues to say and you know it's about election fraud not
about racism dumb ass is for real it's the democrats that do this see they're the ones
that say oh it's because of racism the democrats drawing the line creating racism separating the
country Mackenzie responds I agree with you but they shouldn't have broken into that building
a few days later Mackenzie seems to be getting some sort of blood work done and um guides her
through it through text about how to take deep long breaths because she's terrified but she starts
kind of getting upset that he didn't rush to help her she says okay I would think I'm the most
important or at least a top priority then she gets home and starts freaking out that she doesn't have
an outfit and wants Dom to come over to help her he tries to reassure her baby you're deaf just
making it harder for yourself than it needs to be you can definitely find an outfit you have hella
outfits nothing is standing out for you it's just a matter of time before you know what's going to happen
nothing is standing out to me I don't want to wear any of the stuff and then Kendra is the most
annoying motherfucker to have you help pick an outfit this is just terrible like you could have
just came and helped me real quick no babe yes babe you can dress yourself I'm sorry but like
I can't tie your shoes every day I'm not asking you to tie my shoes I'm asking you to help me
pick an outfit well five outfits so my week is less stressful I don't know what's so hard about
all of this like if you just asked me to help you I would have helped you but I guess it's only
one-sided it's not one-sided you just make it really hard for yourself
I've helped you before but I'm not losing sleep over what you wear to school my anxiety is at its
lowest when I look good like I have to beg for help I shouldn't have to beg you have to beg for
help to get dressed like come on Kenzie you still don't get it like let's not make my issue seem
smaller because you don't give a single fuck about them if you cared about my anxiety and stress you
would help me I'm not the fucking average person and I never will be so understand or don't because
I'm willing to help you through all your issues you just have to help me through mine I will help
but you getting dressed you do on your own wow I just can't help it I don't know what to do with it
don't think it's something that I should help with I don't give a fuck what you think I didn't
ask what you think one time I asked if you could help me pick five outfits for this week so I don't
have to fucking stress about it before bed like this and of course that's what you say never ask
me for help again you can never help me with shit like maybe if you considered my issues important
but of course you don't because it doesn't mean anything to you babe it's literally an outfit I
help you with anything else that I can stop gaslighting so she's like stop gaslighting he
says I don't know what gaslighting is eventually he compromises
and asks her to send pictures of potential outfits but she says well it's fucking hard
over the phone if you just came with me in the first place I would it would have been a lot
easier but no you had to stay like I can't even fucking pick out a shirt how am I supposed to
send you a photo he tells her she can send pics or he's going to bed to which she's upset that
he can't even pick out an item like how can she send pics he responds how are you ever gonna get
dressed on your own you can't even pick one item they argue back and forth before Dom says he's so
over this he sent her a thousand dollars for her birthday so she must have clothes to wear because
that's what she spent it on he's like I used to wear the same joggers three times a week in seventh
grade like who cares what you wore oh my god it's not about not having clothes you're not listening
to me so you have all the clothes you just can't match the colors if I don't feel comfy and confident
in my outfit I will have a bad day and it will stress me out all day no it's not about anyone
so how do I help you with that because I've never been able to help you there's been nights it'll be
9 p.m and you keep me up until midnight with your outfits they argue about how she would do it for
him and he responds I'm not losing sleep over clothes though like come on if you were hurt or
hungry you know I'm on the way or something else but it's an outfit Mackenzie argues and this is
one of my most important things this is what helps me get on my day on track no now I'm just gonna
get no fucking sleep and I have to go to a full day tomorrow like now I'm stressed off like I'm
stressed off my fucking ass and I'm probably gonna smoke to calm down he responds I didn't
even watch the football game and I'm mad I'm sorry my mental health makes you mad you're the first
person who I asked for help but I just won't ask anymore Dom responds as much as I love you my
mental health comes first because I try every day so hard to not freak out and if you're gonna push
me I'm not just gonna let you stress me out and make me mad when that's the first thing you I deal
with every day Dom me asking you for help shouldn't stress you out your outfits isn't excusable yeah
if you ask me to help you I'm not gonna help you I'm not gonna help you I'm not gonna help you
with something important like let's say drive you to school Mackenzie responds in all caps
Dom this is important pick some pants then shirt then shoes then jacket and you're done easy as
that I don't even want to move I've been laying on the floor staring into my wall I don't even
want to go to school tomorrow like I just don't have the motivation I can't even do school work
or focus and my math and English teacher make me feel so dumb and she like goes on another rant
Dom also gets on Mackenzie for smoking so much saying you don't have motivation because you
smoke so much weed you can't think I've already told you to smoke so much weed you can't think
you can't do this like you get up and smoke weed at 7 a.m this is what happens she says she's going
to try and stop smoking because her lungs are not doing well but she thinks it'll be hard because
she's gonna watch him smoke while she can't smoke she says this all just sucks I just want to get
high she complains about her English teacher fuck my English teacher such a fucking bitch like I
asked for a pencil and she never has one and always says it's not my classroom like bitch you've been
teaching in this room for almost a year how the fuck does she still have no pencils for her students
and she also don't have a sharpener and when I asked she didn't even help me find one I'm about
to snitch on her why do teachers do this to me babe Dom tells her it's because quote because
they jealous of how cute you are they are afraid of you which seems to calm her down then he does
go on do not disturb mode she starts freaking out texting why the fuck did you go on do not
disturb like I'm not feeling these old habits like the fact that you did that when you know
how it makes me feel acting like a fucking child you really want me to go there I can deadass show
up in front of you in front of you in front of me in front of me in front of me in front of me in front of me
Dom's mental health takes another big hit and he tells Mackenzie that he didn't choose any of this
she's way too hard on him she's always freaking out on him and he's crying he says that there are
tears running down his face they get into another heated fight where he says he can't handle Mackenzie
he just wants to be left alone the whole way she's been aggressively talking to him today is just
getting to him and he can't do this anymore he says he can't even have a clear mind being around
people he just wants to be alone he texts her I never have a clear mind I never have a clear mind
peace of mind Mackenzie can we just stop texting for a little she responds babe I don't want to be
alone tonight again exclamation exclamation she demands that he let her be there for him but he
says there's no point since she's been mean all day and does the same thing is freaking out on
him and it's just making him worse to which he says so you're not gonna let me come over
clearly the fight goes where every previous fight has gone before no uncharted waters here okay
Mackenzie demands to go over to his house before 9 p.m that night and explains
I'm honestly pissed off you know this weekend is ruined Dom asks her why she's still doing this
and she doesn't agree she says what am I doing wrong I'm honestly so done with this shit it's
good to know you're fine with leaving me sad and feeling alone I'll remember this night forever
Mackenzie says that he's never there for her when she needs him but she's always there for him
to which Dom argues that the best way Mackenzie can be there for him is by not being there Mackenzie
unsurprisingly disagrees saying and made me feel alone like you made me feel alone and you
useless be like that push me away it'll be the worst decision of your life he's explaining to
her that she won't ever let him clear his mind or leave him alone to which she responds I'm just
going to bed fuck my life literally no one cares how I feel ever no one is ever there I'm so done
feeling this way I hope you're happy Dom says now he feels worse and say insinuating he feels bad
and he says that all he wanted was quote a little me time to which Mackenzie says okay we could have
had a sleepover but no
she like does not get it at all she keeps getting upset saying that she's always there for him which
he's arguing he doesn't need that he needs space but she's not saying that at all she keeps saying
he's trying to hurt her and says I'm going to bed I'm done letting you be mean to me when I just want
to be by you like you're so fucking mean and I still only want to be with you like what the fuck
is wrong with me Dom threatens to hurt himself and Mackenzie states she's going to call his mom
to which Dom tells her then you better tell her it's your fault then too and this is probably not
a good thing to say but it does send Mackenzie to a place where she can be alone and she can be
off her freaking rocker she says oh hell no you really want me to do it like I know you didn't
just say that I know you didn't I know you didn't just say that to me you just fucked up fucking
manipulative like hell no like I must be tripping because I know you didn't just say that you are
fucked who the fuck says that to anyone it will never be my fucking fault you hurt yourself if
you're dumb enough to even actually do it holy fuck what the fuck happened to you I'm gonna call
your mom no you just fucked up big time Dom you really just said one of the worst things you can
ever say you can say sorry right now you can say sorry right now you can say sorry right now you can
say sorry right now you can say sorry right now and why you're sorry or we're gonna have issues
Dom responds Kenzie I'm sorry but you're driving me insane you didn't listen to me at all and I
told you I couldn't take the mental abuse he starts telling her he's really
not doing well which she brings the conversation back to wow so you really just not gonna let me
come hang tonight we're not gonna have a sleepover this weekend it's gonna be like that dom tells her
kenzie listen right now after my very hard week i don't even know what to say a day or two they're
back to normal and by the evening they're fighting again and we've only made it halfway through the
messages and this is where i leave you for the first half of the messages i will see you in the
second half where i mean can you believe it things do get progressively exponentially worse
stay safe and i'll see you in the next half
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The episode analyzes 30,000 text messages between Mackenzie Shirilla and Dominic Russo from 2020 to July 2022, revealing a pattern of escalating manipulation, emotional control, and manipulation of communication.
Mackenzie's behavior evolves from youthful clinginess to increasingly suffocating demands, using guilt, anxiety, and emotional blackmail to manipulate Dominic into compliance.
The relationship is marked by a significant imbalance in emotional dynamics, with Mackenzie repeatedly demanding attention, space, and affection while Dominic expresses a need for personal autonomy, which is consistently undermined by her persistent pressure.
Summary:
This episode presents a detailed, human-driven analysis of 30,000 text messages between Mackenzie Shirilla and Dominic Russo from 2020 to July 2022, the period leading up to the fatal car crash in which Dominic and Davion Flanagan were killed. The narrative centers on Mackenzie’s increasingly abusive and manipulative behavior, which shifts from early-stage teenage insecurities to a pattern of emotional domination. She frequently texts Dominic with demands for attention, pleading for time together, and escalating into anger when ignored, often attributing her distress to anxiety.
Her communication style becomes obsessive—repeatedly asking for responses, refusing to accept no, and reacting with fury when dismissed. Dominic, in contrast, consistently expresses a need for space and autonomy, especially for personal time and time with friends, but this is repeatedly undermined by Mackenzie’s relentless pressure. The relationship deteriorates as Mackenzie’s behavior grows more extreme, including threats of self-exit, emotional blackouts, and accusations of harm, such as claiming her leg was injured by Dominic.
While both parties communicate in a way that reflects teenage immaturity, the evidence strongly suggests Mackenzie’s actions were emotionally manipulative and controlling, aligning with patterns seen in abusive relationships. The episode emphasizes that Mackenzie, not Dominic, is the one facing criminal charges—her intent and behavior are central to the legal case. Despite some initial claims of mutual dissatisfaction, the messages show a clear trajectory of escalating emotional control and manipulation, culminating in a relationship where Mackenzie’s emotional needs override Dominic’s personal boundaries.
The analysis underscores the danger of prolonged emotional manipulation in close relationships, particularly when one partner is isolated or coerced into submission. This is not a story of mutual toxicity, but of one-sided emotional coercion that ultimately led to tragic consequences.
FAQs
The text messages span two and a half years of Mackenzie and Dominic's relationship, offering a detailed look at their communication patterns, conflicts, and emotional dynamics, which helps understand the progression of their relationship leading to the tragic incident.
Mackenzie frequently pleaded to come over, often in excessive numbers, and relied on emotional manipulation and constant text requests. Dominic sought space and alone time, but often felt pressured to accommodate her demands despite his need for privacy.
Yes, Dominic did suggest breaks multiple times, especially in early 2020, citing the need for space and personal time, though Mackenzie consistently pushed back and refused to accept these breaks.
Initially, their relationship had normal high school couple issues, but over time, Mackenzie's behavior became more controlling, manipulative, and emotionally demanding, while Dominic grew increasingly frustrated and sought more space.
Mackenzie frequently used guilt, anxiety, and dramatic expressions—such as claiming she was 'about to die' or that she had bleeding legs—to manipulate Dominic into complying with her demands.
No, the episode explicitly states that Dominic is not on trial and that no actions of his would excuse Mackenzie's actions. The analysis focuses on Mackenzie’s behavior, as she is the one charged with criminal intent.
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