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It's chicks in the office with Rian Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday everybody, hopefully you had a nice long weekend. We are back in studio. We're getting the swing of things. I feel like sadly fall is just right around the corner. I hate to say it. No. It's the first day back at school. It's worse than fucking New Year's. It is the day after Labor Day is worse than New Year's with the feeling of like getting back in it. It feels like the New Year, in my opinion, more so the New Year's does. And it's funny because no one's telling you that you can't still go to the beach on another weekend in September, but it feels like you can't. It felt like I had to put on a sweater this morning until I looked at the weather. I realized it was going to be 80 degrees. And now I look like I'm playing soccer. I truly look like I just came back from my big match today. I had to fold my socks because they were too. I walked in the studio and Noah kicked me a soccer ball. Sorry, posing on it. I was bending like Beckham, bending like Beckham. Yeah, it's the whole thing. Okay. Well, that's cute. I think that's cute. I think you look cute anyway. Oh, thank you. But it's just you got to be the back to school, even though we're not at school, but you feel like you're going back to school. I'm going back to work. Like I haven't seen all the haven't seen everyone four days ago. I'm like, how's everybody doing? Right. What's going on in the summer? Anything new? How was your summer? Haven't seen you guys. Oh, we've just we were totally been totally been around each other, but that is that transition period where we're in adults. And you don't have children, but you know children are going back to school. And you kind of feel like you're going back to school, but you're not. You're going back to work. I did look at all the kids on the beach yesterday. I thought, hmm, they're all going back to school tomorrow. Yeah. Like, oh, wow, you're out during the day. You're not getting ready for school tomorrow. I know. I know I'm one of one of my nieces was working on like homework. I was like, wow, that's a homework, but they've been back in school. Well, they start school August 6th. There's also a lot of kids who started school last week, which I think is a lot of a lot because you know, they felt late this year. And that was true. And I saw a lot of people start school on like Wednesday. To me, that's so pointless. Right, just started on the Tuesday after the April 8th. Yeah, I don't know what the scheduling is like, I know they got to hit their whatever. They're set number of days. But yeah, my like, my nieces started August 6th. That's early. That's early. That's just rude. They're in South Carolina. So it's a different. They do start earlier. They get off. Yeah, they finished like in May. Yeah. How was your weekend? Yeah. The weekend was lovely. It was just gorgeous. Just one of those classic holiday weekends, soaking up the sun, enjoying the beach. Their tears were maybe shed. I talk about this every year after Labor Day weekend, but Joe plays the music on the beach. He's got this giant speaker. And the Monday, like five o'clock hits, he plays closing time for everybody on the beach. It's just so rude. It's just so no, and everyone was like, no, not closing. We're not ready for closing time yet. He like, he like, at like three o'clock, he teased it. He was playing everyone. Not yet. I thought about you at 5 p.m. yesterday. I woke. I saw it was 5 p.m. and I thought this is the end of their end last beach. They're about to head off the beach around this time. And you were exactly right. That's exactly when we left the beach. And yeah, you just, you pack up your stuff and you look around, you're like, and I laugh because I said we could literally all be here next week. Yeah, it's like the Hannah Montana last episode or when she's moving houses. Yeah, and she's like this. Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, except then all of a sudden new season hits in your back. Yeah, the beach ain't going anywhere. There's the other things are to like come into swing at September. Very popular wedding month as someone who also got married in September. Football season. Football starting Wednesday tonight and a fell back. Really? Oh, you got to say your lineup. Oh, my God. Yeah, Wednesday. No, yeah, but I'm saying. I know, I know, I know, she's got you have a dad, but this is gotta say your lineup. Game start Wednesday night at what time? I mean, I'm sure it's like. Only one game. It's one. Yeah, Patriots. Yeah, but maybe she's got players that are on either. No, no, I know I'm just saying. Like, she's got to be aware. Yeah, fuck. Yeah, you have so much time to set a line. I know, but I this was a good reminder. I would have totally forgotten. I totally would have forgot. They're. They're doing a game in Australia this year. I heard about this whole thing. It's like 16 hours. Josh brothers are doing a halftime show. Are they? Oh, my. Yes, and I saw people. And they had the earls on their podcast. Good for them. I have been cracking up seeing. And you know what? I get it. I respect. You're joining the podcast game. You want the guests. Like, you're, you're any high profile guest. You're like, yeah, we'll take them. But I'm just like, where's that? Where's the chemistry? Mm hmm. What that? They're all from Jersey. Like, yeah, but you're telling Nick, Joe and Kevin are watching a lick of early meets world. Not a lot, but they do know who they, I guess, I'm Kevin might be. No, Kevin might be because he does. He does watch some reality TV right now. And they'll be like, Braxton, we're giants fans. Exactly. You know, we'll get into all of that with the topics. Yeah, I had such an insane dream last night that DJ Caled was my partner on dancing with the stars. And he lost the pro. I was either pro. I have no idea. It was a star. It was stars and stars and stars. I guess. Yes, I'm referring to myself as a star. He lost so much weight though that nobody knew it was DJ Caled, because he was skinny. And so we came out like no one cheered or anything. Yeah, they were the wisdom guy. And then I told him like, you got to get fat again. And so we get votes because people are just going to see you and not know who you are. And they're not going to vote for you. And then he put on like a fat muscle suit for our first dance. Yeah. And my pants fell off. It was a disaster. Dance to all I do is when we came out to that. Yeah. But he worked that up when they announced the team. Yes, we came out to all of you is with. And I was like, why are these two random people? Yeah, because they didn't know with DJ Caled, he was so fucking skinny. God, I'm so fucking excited for dance. I know. I know. Next week, can't wait for the talk. So we're going to be so excited. And I'm like, all the week one dances are going to be so good right off the bat. Jenna, Jenna, Val and Harry. Harry doing dances together already on TikTok. I was like, Oh, boy, this is going to be out. And this is not going to help the case of people thinking that they have a leg up on everybody. Yeah, this is just because they certainly do. Yeah. Well, we'll talk once that starts. We're going to talk about the dance with the start because that's that's next week. Yeah, no, how was your weekend? Uh, it was good. Uh, Trent and I went to Bridgeport, Connecticut. And so to ask you trucks man. Nice. I didn't know Trump was with you. That's so nice. Yeah, yeah, he's like, he's fully bought in now. So it's nice to have have a buddy, a buddy that is equally bought in to them as a man. Uh, Bridgeport, Connecticut, not much to do there, not much. I don't really know where I don't, I'm not sure where that is. Is that one of the town? Like, would you drive through it when you're going up by 95? I wouldn't know. I just got off the Amtrak. It's an Amtrak stop. Oh, okay. But the confusing thing is the venue that we saw was called the Hartford Ampitheater. So I'm like, oh, it's right next to Hartford. It's not. It's like an hour from Hartford. Why is that called Hartford Ampitheater, not Bridgeport? Oh, I see where it is. Yeah, yeah, that's not too, not too far from the answer to. Yeah, not too far from Fairfield. Uh, yeah, John Mayer is born in Bridgeport and then grew up in Fairfield. Yeah, no, yes. I actually didn't know that. So thank you. Um, but, yeah, Cheryl Crow opened for them. Wow. People thought that that's awesome. You do go right pass on 95. Just people thought she was a special guest. Uh, but no, she was opening for them. That opening for them is so interesting, because that is crazy. Our Uber driver was like, uh, picked us up and she's like, who was playing? I'm like, she's not going to know, but like to ask you, talk to man, she's like, clearly, I don't know. And I'm like, Cheryl Crow opened for them. She goes, really, they must be pretty good. But they have Cheryl Crow. I mean, just in terms of name recognition, Cheryl Crow is one of that battle. Exactly. She's got some bangers. Of course, she has some absolutely. Also, by the way, looks incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 64. Yeah, I honestly would have told you she was 45. Yeah, she's looking like me. So I saw your, uh, you posted a video. Yeah, yeah, I see. I mean, so about the sun, there's so many. But I like that she saved all her big songs just for like the last five in a row. - Yeah, that's smart. That's the way to do it, I think. Get the ones that people don't know out of the way and then really just end with that. - That's the new ones. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But other than that, that's a great one. - That's pretty much it. - No, it was supposed to come down the shore with Tommy, but Tommy got sick and then Noah was like, I'm not gonna fifth wheel. - Yeah. - That's how you couples retreat then and then I'm just the fifth wheel. - Yeah. - The Marty put me on the spot too. Like Marty was just fucking with me, but he caught me in the hallway and I'm like, oh, like, too bad, like I want to come. And he's like, you should still come. Why don't you come? - Yeah. - I couldn't think of one excuse. I'm like, uh, I know, I was like, that's totally bearable. - That's fair. - Why would you come hang out with two couples? Like, you know, it would still be fun, but the itinerary is probably gonna be different when it's, you know, just couples, but I think I lost brain cells this weekend. I mean, ah. There was, it was a great mixture of everything. Nice dinners, great beach time. Swam in the pool a lot sometimes. - But we did have one big night out, which we were there for, they were there five hours and four nights. So like out of those, we had one big night out and she got me. I mean, wow. - Really took a lot out of bed. - Really took a lot out of me. - I mean, Janks to DJ's pipeline had to go out of the bank. Yeah, I was majorly, majorly crowded. - Yeah, I was gonna say that this is, yeah. Obviously when bars are most packed. - You did anything on the boardwalk, any games? - Yeah, I actually went to the boardwalk like three times this weekend. I had to show my friends the shore house, the Jersey Shore house. - Yeah. - I saw that in my first thought was, did she finally take Franny? And then I'm like, wait, Franny something? - No, I know, I was bummed. But honestly, it's so gross in that house now. - Right, right, right. - Can you just walk, you go to the shore store, you say, hey, can I get a tour and they charge you 10 bucks a person to go. - Oh, no. - Anybody could go at any time. - Yeah, so we went and it just feels stale in there. I mean, it's cool to see, of course. - Right, I'm sure, but like nobody's like in their cleaning. - No, it's like a really just a staple in pop culture. - Frozen in time. - Yeah, and now it's officially come to an end the Jersey Shore as a whole, the show. But it is gross in there. You feel like you got to take a shower immediately after leaving. - Oh, right, you don't want to touch anything. - No. - No, not like, yeah, but it's cool to say. So we did that. And yeah, play some boardwalk games. - What are my prizes? - I did, I did. And uh. - What game? - Pop shot, pop shot, whatever. - It's a hard one. - It is. - That is. - I was kind of ballin'. - I don't know, I kind of impressed myself. - You do the mirrors? - No, didn't do the mirrors. And then whack 'em all I wanted to. So that was some stuffed animals. - I gave them to my nephew. - That's nice. - 'Cause my sister and my brother-in-law were there. I said, yeah, yeah. You could take these. - Well, that's the best part on the boardwalk is when you like, I think I did it last time, but you just find a little kid to give it to, 'cause I'm like, I don't wanna carry this around. - That's, yeah, right. - Feel like a hero. - Feel like a hero. - Yeah, yeah, that's true. - That is nice. That is very nice. You know, surviving Barsal came to an end. - It did. - Barsal, Monday night was the last episode final, Matt made it all the way to the end. - Yes. - It was so funny, because all weekend long, people were coming up to mapping. Like, yo, did you win? - And it's like a sad sucks. - And it's also like, you can't tell you. - You can't tell you. - And he'd be like, oh, what do you think he's gonna say? - Monday's the last episode of the day. - It happens so many times, you're like, Monday's the last episode, we'll find out. - I wanted to say, yeah, I did. - No, he did not win, Ron won, so congrats to Ron. Very well deserved. Obviously, we were rooting for Matt, you know, we're biased, but that's just the way it took out. I know that people were messaging me, worried about Tommy and Marty. They are completely fine. - They actually made up immediately after they, 'cause what happened once they did it differently this year? Last year, we shot the whole show, everyone voted, and then they did not show who won until the reunion show months later. So we shot the show in September, then the reunion show was in January. - Didn't really give any time to move on. The feelings were all, it brought the feelings back up. - This one was different, they shot the show in May, and immediately did the voting right there, showed who won, did the reunion show all in one night. So totally different set up. So like all the feelings and everything are still very new, and they, but they made up immediately after, and I even talked to Tommy, like right after, 'cause Tommy was going through it. - Yeah, I think he's openly talking about it. - For sure, there was obviously tension with him in the room. - Yeah, and I was, I just was so worried, 'cause we all have such a great friendship, and I was genuinely worried that, you know, and then we talked, and he was like, "No, no, like we're all good." And me and Marty's went to a room talk, like I called it out, we're, do not worry, do not fret, we're completely fine. And we've hung out all summer, and it's been great. Although I will say this, you were, when we were in the Hamptons last week, and Noah and Tommy came, we were coming back from the bar, and we're in the car, and we're talking about Survivor. And Noah goes, he's like, should we try to pull up the last episode and play Tommy's speed? I said, "No, why would you do that right now?" Like, what do you want to just bring the vibe? - Yeah, definitely not that energy. - I said, "No, you want to bring to the function." - Well, I was just hearing a lot of hype about it, so I'm like, I kind of want to watch it. - Yeah, I was like, "No, we definitely don't want to do that right now." And then like, it adds to everyone's just sitting there like in silence. - First of all, absolutely not. So that was funny, but yeah, they've been obviously fine, and, yeah, well deserved for loan, happy to pass the torch on. And I thought it was a fun season. - It was, it was. And I think that there was a lot of good POVs, and everyone has their opinion of how everybody played the game and this, that the other thing. I also think people love to say, like the one person that doesn't make the final, and they're like, well he would never, he would never one like they would, everyone was like, well, Clinty would never want, but then the jury's like, we would have all voted for Clinty. It's like, and in that, that always cracks me up 'cause I feel like that happens every season, but it's literally just 'cause the jury like wants to start the positive. Like, well, actually, we would have voted for him. - The thing is, they were genuinely planning on voting for Clinty if he made it to the end because they were so pissed. Those worms, oh, disgusting. You would have done that though, if you were in the game. - Yeah, I would have shoved them down so fast. I mean, you have to, in that moment, you're just, I think that I was, I know I couldn't believe, but I thought they looked fake. I know it sounds ridiculous because you're watching a show where you're like, oh, it's just a bunch of people in an office playing for 200, like whatever. Your emotions run so high when you've just been like sleeping in this place for seven days. You haven't been outside. Your only focus is on this game. It's $250,000. Like, I think people don't realize how high the emotions get. So everyone's like, why is anybody upset about, like, 'cause you're just thinking about this one thing and it weirdly fucks with you for whatever reason. I mean, psychology behind it. - Yeah. And I just have to say, and I know there was nine million things that were brought up during the final liberation. And this is a silly thing to harp on. But, you know, Mandator are very good friends. And Dana, like, took a little bit of a low blow about, you know, Marty always being in Italy and like going on vacations. And I was, first of all, number one else, no vacations, shame being in my house. Like, never. And then he was like, oh, sorry, Spain. And then in my head, I went, oh, her, they're fucking honey moon, excuse me. Like, I just thought about me and you on the show if we made it to the end. And then like, under your breath, you were like, oh, you weren't fucking South Africa. I would have jumped across the table. - No, I gotta be honest. Like, if I am being 100% honest, I was not happy when I heard that. - No, that's because I was like that. One of your best friends would call you out on like, whatever. And I also was making jokes like, we only went to Italy for the first time this year. Do I, am I very aware that we do take very nice vacations and we get to travel the world. And I feel super grateful to do that because we have an awesome job. - Yes, I am very aware that we get to do that. - Yeah. You know who takes sick vacations, Ron? - Yeah, Ron takes fucking all, I said that. I was like, Ron is always on sick vacations. - Ron, I'm, clearly people aren't paying close enough attention because Ron takes sick vacations. - For years now, he's done it. And you know what? It's so, I, truthfully, when I did hear that, I know it may be soft, but I was kind of like, kind of lame. - No, because from a real friend that hurts harder, like if it was someone else, someone else saying it fine, but it's like when it's your actual friend, you're like, come on, man. Like really, that's where you're gonna, like have some honor if we're gonna fight this out. Like we agreed to go to the end together. Like, find it out honorably. - And also, I think Matt said, he was like, you know, why are we pocket watching? - Yeah. - Because this is, I don't know, but I, I get it, like, you know, if they're like, I personally wouldn't say that, but whatever you're trying to win in the end, so you're gonna say-- - Yeah, the emotions were clearly running very high. And Dana was also very, clearly very upset when this all ended. - Right. - And Ron wanted it was kind of like Dana being like, what the fuck? - Yeah, and at the end of the day, like you're trying to win, so you're gonna say whatever you want. And I get like, people are like, real one last year, and you guys take these awesome big hits. What do you need the money? I think what the difference was like this season, I think was probably more about like who needs the money. But last season, everyone was under agreement. like if anybody brings you. we're not going to bring up the money. We're not going to bring up that right right right right right right. Because there were so many well established people on the last season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was like, don't bring up the money because I'm not going to listen to Biz or whatever. Say that they need the money. Yeah. For sure. For sure. I'm not just going to give her whatever. You're not talking about the bus and boys. They big cat like any of them. Like this is. Yeah. It was about like winning the game. But it also does make me laugh because I think people like I saw people saying that they knew Ron one because he like went to Portugal or whatever. And then they said this. I remember they said the same thing about what I want. Yeah. That we went to London in Paris. I'm like, Ron has been going on cool vacations for years. People are not paying close enough attention. We've also been going on cool vacations. We have a job that pays good money. And it's not because they're striving for us to why we go on vacations. I may sound like an asshole because of that. But I didn't just go spend that $250,000 on a vacation after I saved it. I have a job. So I thought that was funny that I mean, he did win. But I don't think he went to Portugal just because he wanted to. No, no, no, no. No, for sure. But it was a really enjoyable season all in all. And I did enjoy watching it and seeing how it all played out. And I did like that they did it all to get like at the same time. Yeah, that was cool because it's better. Everyone knows you want. No one's going to keep in who won after yeah. And I think they hand to they vote. You know, it's like, well, this person, you can do the math yourself. I think they realized that that's what happened like. Yeah. When will one, when I won. Immediately people said like who I'm who they voted for. I will say Taylor LaWon like lied to me after when when our voting was finished and he hugged me and he was like, I voted for you. And he just didn't vote. And I remember being like, oh, that's so nice. And then when we watched it, this fucking guy didn't vote for me. Why did he hug me and tell me he voted for me? So I guess you don't know if someone's logged into the neighborhood. Yeah, they could be. They could be. But this one was just all straight up. And I think, yeah, like emotions are high right after I called Matt as soon as they said who won. They finished the show. And he picked up the call. And I was like, he was like, is it embarrassing that I like choked up hearing your voice? I'm like, no, it's not embarrassing. Like your emotions are high. And you know, it is what it is. So yeah, it comes, it comes to an end. It does. It does. We'll see. We'll see if they do another season. If they shake it up next season. Every time like a season ends, it's like, it's such a question mark of if they'll do it again or if they'll change it. And then we always end up doing it again in some way. But you know, I don't think so. Yeah, France, I know to doing it. Yeah. But like you just don't think like I just don't know if I haven't interested in doing it. That's really like I think it is. I don't know if I don't I'm just I've never been a survivor fan. I think that's where it comes down to for me. Like I never watched the show. Like that, that game is just less enticing to me, just as someone who was not as invested into a game like that. But if they do traitors, traitors, I understand more. I think I'd be flying so blind into survivor that I just because I just don't wouldn't know how it really works. And I would just catch myself in situations and be like, why am I here? Why am I here? Yeah, I never watched the show. Also, we talked about this and Fran would hate being around everyone 24/7 for that many days. No, I'd send myself home. I think like having to sleep in the office with everybody. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't think I can, yeah, I don't think I can do it. I mean, hey, and that's just being aware, you know, I'm just not meant to live in comfortable life at this age. But I fucking love watching it. Like I love, I love supporting. I love watching it. But the reality TV game like across the board for me, I just don't know if I am built to be a participant. I love to be a viewer. But a participant has never been something I have wanted to be. That's completely fair. I mean, I feel the same way in general about just like outside. Yeah, but like I've been asked, I feel like twice in the past year about like other reality shows that I've been like, nope, I like talking about them, not sure I want to be. Yeah, just being on the other side of the table is very different. Yeah, it is very different. Yeah, but awesome season. Yeah, after, I think even after the last season, we were like, uh, things got a little real. I don't know if they're going to do another season. This one was way less. Yeah, that's dramatic. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so I do see them doing it again, but I feel like they would probably shake it up and do something a little bit, a little bit different. Yeah, maybe a different location. Right, that would be cool. Like if they actually send us somewhere. Yeah. If we were sent to an actual island for seven days, that'd be fun. Yeah, because I just think that it would be like too much like survivor. You can't like completely rip off the show. Right. Right. Right. But maybe I don't even know, I don't know. Maybe somewhere else. I or like kind of combine some of like the rat race elements with the survivor element to kind of merge into its own unique show could be cool. Just because I do think continuing to do it in the Chicago office, there are only like so many people that work here. So then you get, you get repeats and people who have done past shows doing it in the same Chicago office. And as much as they change the challenges around, there's only so much you could do within the walls of the office. Absolutely. I think something would be fun would be bringing in like friends of the program. Yeah. Type of situation. Yeah, totally. Whether it's out, whether it's outsiders or it's we, or we go outside. Yeah, right. Just changing it up in general. Something to give it a little bit of a freshness. People on this side of the office like obviously no fans would care whatsoever. I did do a producer one. Yeah. Be like so cutthroat. It would be so funny. Because everyone here knows each other and everyone would be like dying to get that. Yeah. It would be the same thing. I would love to see you. Because like they are like pretty sure like great idea. Because you're just introducing new people. But then you'd be like who's going to film it. That's a good point. Yeah. We start filming you. Good point. Good point. However, that will be so exciting because it'll that does give you a little bit more of the original show aspect. Because you go into a season and start we don't know these people that are cast on the show. But you still have the like. But that's why it's really that's why it's even like because they all know each other. But the audience doesn't know them, which I think actually is a really interesting dynamic. Right. And you would have like the backing of your show. So like each show. That was your guts in the mix like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Team Noah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey spin off. Yeah. There's something there. There's legs there for that idea. For sure. Yeah. We would have to get a lot of freelance. Yeah. To come help. They do have outsiders come work on. Yes. They do. They work on the show. But great job to everybody. Yeah. They do their own production nailed it once again. They do such a good job. Production so good. And they work their asses off for that. Big shout out to Tara. We love Tara. Tara. And Tara does a great job of keeping everybody in line. Everybody in check. She's got a deal with so many different egos and personalities and emotions. And she does such an amazing job. And we love Tara. Yeah. Absolutely. So all right. Should we get some topics? Yeah. Should we get into some topics? First of all, we're going to talk about the Braxton, Alex, Earl situation, Earl, all of that. There's a lot that went on in this weekend. Braxton means spotted. Yes. We're going to talk about Stella lefty getting a lot of hate online. This woman has just come across my desk. I got to be honest. Maria's not in. Maria's not on so lefty TikTok. I'm not. And I have been trying to explain this to her. I would like to be explained. Seat teen Fadre. They go red carpet official. 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But, see, we're one driver. Bro, we're also talking about the owner of Barsville Sport. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he doesn't fucking know. He doesn't know Lando Norris. And that is a way to avoid not NASCAR, bro. Bars, you should have included that in our text. I know. I didn't know I had to fill him in that he was an F1 driver. It was funny. He was like, should I talk about this? I'm like, yeah, I think it's T. I think it's, it's definitely T. And now it is, because now we got more pictures. So we'll go into talk about Eromie's world. But I want to talk about this first, Brax and Barrio scene at Crane Club with a couple of other people with Maggie, Lando's ex. Now, here's the background on this. Indo and Alex were fallaking around Europe in the South of France for a little while. Then they were seen in London. And it seemed like maybe they were, you know, hooking up, having some fun. I don't know. They were seen together off. Yeah, there were no confirmation of what was happening. They were hanging out. Now, fast forward, Brax and originally seen at Crane Club, which is a restaurant in New York City with a group of people with Maggie. Then seen with just Maggie alone at the 86 on a date. Now here's the thing. I think that was maybe the third time. I think there was maybe something before the Crane Club. I do believe this to be lame. I agree. I'm Brax and Zen. I at 100% I agree. I think that this is lame because, okay, but I think they're being petting on purpose. Both of them. For sure. Sorry. I'm blocking. I don't know why I just go to rap. No, I think both parties, it's like, ooh, you know, it's going to wrestle some feathers. Let's go on this date. We go on a date. I just, I don't think that I would be like, let me reach out to the ex of my ex and ask them to go on a date. Right. That's the only way they would have had to have happened that way. I just wouldn't even think about doing that. My guess is he would have had to have, like, DM'd her or vice versa. And she also posted a TikTok of her, like, cross the street, she's smiling. She's a gorgeous girl. And it was like, how it feels being single and NYC, right? What is that? What is that? Something like that. And she, she's the same song that Alex Earl used in a TikTok after she had been seen out with Lando and people are like, ooh, this is petty business. This is, there's a connection here. I just don't understand what the issue is, if… If Maggie and Alex, I keep wanting to say Magoo, I'm not going to lie now. If Maggie and Alex never, and Alex never met, and we're never friends, you're, you're just simply taking it out on her that she was seen with your ex-boyfriend. Like, I, I, there has to be some guidelines, right? It's like, if you never, ever knew this woman. Yeah. And then you certain, it's like, he's single. Aren't people single and then like, you got to, you got to let people start dating again. Right. That's when my brain is trying to do the math on all of this. And I'm like, we're, we're Maggie and Alex, for, I don't think they ever, did they ever even meet? I don't know. We don't know the background on that. I don't think so. But I don't think so. I think that they just, she's a man that a new girl is with her ex-boyfriend, which, I mean, yeah, of course, everyone's a little salty when somebody moves on. Oh my God, my ex-boyfriend moved on, but like, all right, we could be mad at him. Right. We got to be mad at Alex or all. Right. It's very similar to the context of, of watching the show when Braxton was spotted with Olivia Jade. Alex was like, okay, you know, she kind of, it's not like Alex or all went to TikTok and made a TikTok using some sound that Olivia Jade used and had everybody freaking out. I think this girl is also very young, she's only 23, which I'm like, you know, sometimes you do petty, even more petty things when you were, of course, of course, when you were that age. You know what really was grind in my gears, though, because as me has somebody that has been now like, I wrote back into Braxton and Alex by watching early, early, early, it's rolled and like seeing the love that they had and Alex talking about where their relationship was. And it felt like Alex really, they really loved each other, but maybe Braxton was pushing to, on the side of like wanting to settle down, like Alex brought up marriage, like, oh, I'm not ready for marriage yet, which then sort of insinuated to me that Braxton was talking about marriage or wanted to talk about marriage straight up say that he wanted to get married in the near future. And she's like, you know, I'm still so young, I'm not ready for that. So like that made her nervous. If you're, if that's where you're going to be with your girlfriend, like maybe have a feeling that you, you don't want to wait for her to be ready for that to the level that you break up, but then you go out and you're seen out and about with, with tots. Like this 23 year old is, is it you're looking for marriage now? You're out with this girl. She's, I bet you she's not looking for marriage. I guess the difference would be to see if she was also looking for marriage at 23. I'm going to guess no, you never know, but I know I'm saying like that just kind of annoyed me because I feel like that's always a thing with these not, because these, this is a guy who's around my age. And I have this feeling even with some of my single guy friends where they, their friends are starting to settle down and they're getting the itch and they want this, that the other thing. But they'll only date. Yeah. Girls that are under like 25 years old, right? Right, right. You keep saying you want to settle down with what it kill you to date someone your own age and they're like, Oh, I don't want to do someone my own age. Why? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Now I'm hyped up on that because what's the problem with dating someone your own age? I don't understand. I haven't seen Braxton out with anybody. That's his age. Why do men act like 30 years old is, is, is I would like to, we're like geriatric at that point. They're like 30. I don't want to date it. I'm like, you're fucking 34, bro. Right. That's my own friends. Braxton, I think is my age, no, 30. He might be 30. You're 31. Yeah. I'm actually turning 32. I'm turning 32 in like three weeks, not even two weeks. Why is that the photo that comes up? That's a crazy photo. He's 30. He's turning 31. He's turning 31 in October. I'm actually like, just a, I'm actually just about a year older than he is. You're 10 days younger than Braxton. Noah. Yeah. Sorry. Nine. Nine. Sorry, I was doing the math wrong. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, okay. So, but, but if that, if those, if I'm being led to believe those are the conversations that Braxton and Alex were, we're having that Alex felt the need to break up with him because he was looking to settle down and she wasn't there yet. I would be like pulling out my hair. Right. Oh, you didn't like that. Oh, young bitch. Yeah. A girl even younger than I am. Yeah. I'm with you. So, yeah. That would, I would, that would piss me off too. But the other side of that, I'm on your, I'm on your side with this. But thinking about the other side, I maybe Braxton's just in this like, she broke up with me. Yeah. She broke up with me. She didn't want me because it did seem like if you watched the show, she has, she had tried to talk to him. She seems hung up on him. Yeah. She, Alex seems hung up on Braxton but also broke up with him. Yeah. It is very confusion. I think that, and here's the thing, go to her for recognizing that she's not ready for something. Yeah. I think that's a great, a great mindset to have. If you are not ready for something, you should not do it. And if you don't feel it in your bones, then absolutely don't do it. On the other side of that, I do think, I want people to remember that their life doesn't end with marriage. I think that some young people get stuck in a train of thought that once they get married, their life ends, it becomes boring, you settle down, that's not the case. I love my life even more being married. I know you feel the same way, still living life, still going out, still having fun. some with friends, still working hard, still accomplishing our dreams. You could do all of those things while married. - Absolutely. - So I do want young people out there to know that like your life does not end when you get married. It's not like all of a sudden you call it and all of a sudden you're an old people home. That's not the case. But recognizing, hey, if your body's telling you, and it's truly because you know that you could still live real if you're married, you're just not ready. - Yeah. - Then that's completely fine as well. And I think that really she felt like she had to figure things out about herself more. - Yeah. - And she said that when she was talking with her dad in one of the episodes. And there was talking about how she kind of feels like all over the place she's doesn't know if she wants, where she wants to, she doesn't feel like she has a home. - Right, I settled in one place. - I think there's a lot of stuff that's working very hard, not being grounded very well. - Exactly, and she's just not feeling grounded. And she was like, and this is why I broke up with Bracketman 'cause I don't know who I, like trying to figure out who I am. - Yeah, which absolutely, if you're trying to figure out who you are, and you don't feel like you're ready for marriage, then good on you for recognizing that. - For sure. - And not just being like, you know what? I'm gonna just get married and in the back of your head, you're not sure. - Yeah. - And that's how you end up in a bad place in your marriage. - Absolutely, and as a viewer, it's just hard to watch 'cause you're rooting for love. And you're like, damn, these two people love each other. But it's just like, they can't seem to make it work in that moment. I also think from watching this show, you can clearly see, and I think Alex and Ashton both have it. There is some trauma and some deep rooted feelings with marriage, with relationships. Having, you know, they're like, I had one relationship to look at as role models with her marriage and my parents and then look how that turned up. And you know, and now you're also, it's kind of just be a really crazy head space to be in. And you have, I'm sure a lot of, I know that they're working through a lot of it. But at the same time, in your own relationship, when that just could be a unknown trigger for you, it's like, oh, the discussion's a marriage start to come up. It's like, well, how do you feel about marriage? It's, you watch your parents marriage, crumble in a very dramatic way. And that's gotta be super scary. So I feel like there's a lot of things that are going through Alex's mind when it comes to committing at the age that she's at right now, right? And it is absolutely so common for people to have a different view on a marriage based on what you've seen in your own life, for sure. You know, certain people can't relate to certain things. It's so different for every single person out there. So I totally understand why they would look at what has happened and be like, ooh, you know, I really want to be sure. Yeah, I mean, going into that dynamic, we've seen a play out on the show. If you don't know, that was the most interesting part of the show. It is, by the way, it was the rental dynamic. If you don't know the background information, is that TJ Earl was married to Alyssa and had an affair with Ashley DePri, who was the same escort with Elliot Spitzer, which was big in New York. If you're in New York, if you're in a scandal. It was a big scandal here. And the reason TJ got caught with Ashley was because the press and the media knew who Ashley was. So they saw Ashley with this man at a hotel. They figured out it was TJ Earl and things blew up and his whole life blew up. Now, the amount of respect I have for Alyssa, Alex and Ashton's mom, who just seems like a gem of a human being to be able to put everything aside for her kids and for her family and show up. What a wonderful woman. Seriously, what a wonderfully strong selfless woman. Seriously, that takes a lot because her daughter is extremely rare. You're going to have somebody go, "Yeah, I'm going to sit at a dinner table with my husband's mistress." It is so rare. So major props to Alyssa, who just seems like a wonderful human being. On the side of TJ and Ashley, I get a kick out of watching TJ. Man, I got a kick out of watching TJ. I get a kick out of watching both of that to be honest. Yeah, he is a full dadager. I got Ash and I'm literally scratching my head right now, because there's a couple times Ashley made me scratch my head. Because I get the dynamic and there's a lot of conversations that they had to have. But I kept feeling like Ashley was my feelings were hurt and these things. I'm like, "Well, how about the fact that Alex actually has the right to tell her story?" I know that they brought up after the ColorDaddy interview that things were really. The first ColorDaddy interview, things were really tense with all of them because the story was brought back up and it was all over the press, all these things. Not to be a hard-ass, but that happened to Alex and she's allowed to share that. I kind of don't actually. it wasn't full victim, but being like, "Well, what about me?" I'm like, "Well, you did it, you had the affair and yes, now you have a beautiful family and you're happy and that's amazing and you're all trying to work out this dynamic." But Alex wants to share that story and how it affected her. She kind of has every right to and I know you want to protect the family and all these things. Everybody knows about it, so it's only going to be worse if you just try and make it a secret and not talked about because then we're going to be like, "Well, what are you hiding?" Because we all know anyway. Exactly. And then having to tell the younger kids, which was going to happen eventually one day with the industry that they're in, that they were going to have to play. Yeah. Alex does that interview. If Alex does or does not do that interview, you're explaining to those kids what happened because it's going to be blown up. Google, all you have to do is go to the next, blowing up on the internet with or without that interview. I also found that I do want to say, because I'm going to forget this thought, Ashton came across like a sweetie pie. I thought that Ashton came across so likable and way different than how she comes across online. In my opinion, I just felt like she was a sweetheart and just a weird display of people's like, sometimes we really don't get people's personalities. And I just feel like maybe she's just a little bit misunderstood and she's trying to find her footing in what she wants to do and she's happy, so happy for Alex and so proud of her and wants her sister to have the spotlight, but also wants to figure out her own path. I thought she came across extremely likable and this was like a great showing for her and it made me a fan of her watching because I really think that like her true personality came through on this show. Alex, I thought did a great job of talking to her family about certain things, whereas TJ, I think disagreed with that at times, like TJ was like, you need to go to, you know, CEO managing classes on how to like talk to people in your family, but I thought that she brought up the things that she had a problem with Ashley, that Ashley TikTok, I thought she was pretty straightforward with her and also asking like, hey, do you think before you post like that may come across harsh, but she was like, I'm genuinely wondering and does she think about it? And I think that's so fair when you were trying to make a name for yourself, trying to become something in this industry and then and your stepmom knows that, but she keeps putting her foot in her mouth and you're like, dude, can you just not do that? I totally get what she's coming from. It makes so much sense. I know. It's almost like TJ wanted her to take like the emotion out of it and sometimes I think he's got his business pants on way too much, which is a hard thing to have. When you are the dadager, it is hard, but he's got his business pants on. I think he's very conscious, like at certain times, I think he is very conscious of how Ashley feels and I'm like, let's remember your daughters in this situation. I know like they're young, you know, I'm saying, I know you've worked through a lot of it, but it was like, I don't know how he also as the dadager wouldn't look at that TikTok and be like, maybe you don't post that. Right. You know what I'm saying? If he's monitoring everything, Alex and Ashton are doing or sharing or whatever, kind of got to kind of got to see what your wife is doing, because it's always, it's going to play into the family dynamic, especially now with this reality show. And I thought Alex, you know, looking at the TikTok that Ashley had posted about the bad bunny performance and her being like, you know, people don't know we have a diverse family and then Alex being like, I don't think like we're the face of a diverse family is having not awareness to be like, you know, you can't be like, oh, we have one cousin that or whatever, it's just not aware at all, no, no, no, no, and definitely not. So yeah, I just feel like now, especially with them being on a reality show, they're, I think they're probably going to run into this problem more than they even think, because Ashley's going to go, hey, I'm on TV now too. And I got a job to do too. So I can post whatever I want. They're going to like run into this. But I do think it's very entertaining and also, yes, there are times where you're like, why is Ashley just being like me, me, me, my feelings in it? To sit down and be like, yeah, we did have an affair, you know, that's, that also takes a lot as well, because there are people that would just run away. From the camera and not get on TV and be like, hey, I and a fair, she's sitting on there being like, yep, we did. And then TJ being like, you know what, I let myself, my family down, really wish I handled this better. It's like, yeah, you should, you know, yeah, yeah, definitely. I feel like the Cooper stuff was so. of exactly what we thought. I know that that was talked about. And we have talked about it. I'm not assuming at this point and have speculated. And I feel like our speculation was pretty spot on at that point. It was just Cooper really looking up to Cooper thinking days were going to be different, thinking she was going to be more of a mentor and throwing resources at her and all these things. And that just wasn't the case. And her being disappointed about that. And they just didn't mesh. They didn't mesh. I think that was really the gist of it. That really just feels like where it was. And from hearing TJ talk about it, it was like, okay, he was definitely really involved. And I'm sure that that caused a lot of tension too. Yeah. And there was conversation about how when she did the interview and she was answering a lot of sexual questions that she really was. She was uncomfortable. But you know, you could see that happening with, oh my god, I'm getting invited on colored daddy. I want to come across cool. How do I fit in? And then you regret it. Yeah. And I think that's fair. I think that it, it, that's a normal reaction to have to be like, oh, fuck, I don't want this to live on the internet totally. I did it because I'm trying to fit in. Yeah. And I want to be cool. And I want to look at this person who I looked up to and just like impress her. Yeah. And I don't necessarily blame Cooper for that either because it's like that was sort of the name of the game with her show. That's what the show was kind of based on. You know, so and you can, and I understand like if Earl felt maybe she was pressured to do it or be, or being like, if I want to be on the show, I got to do it and all these things. But I don't, maybe that wasn't all, I don't think that was all communicated. Right. Because in the moments, if you look at it in Alex Cooper's like, hey, you want to come on the show? We're going to talk about college. We're going to do this. We're going to do that. And Alex goes like, yes, you can get both sides of it. Because on one side, sometimes people aren't honest when they're just trying to be cool and they want to fit in. And then the other person's like, oh, I was just doing my job. Yeah. So I don't think there was some big blow out thing that we thought there was going to just be like a bomb drop of some major news that somebody did. It was kind of just like a build up of like, they do not have a good working relationship. And at the end of the day, Alex Earl never needed to work it on well. She was already big. She was only getting bigger. And unwell kind of feels like a place for people to start out at. Yeah, they're footing. And Alex Earl didn't need that. She was already gonna be huge. Yeah, definitely. It left off on a massive cliffhanger with her called Braxton. And it was the, oh, it's gone viral. It's just like, oh, Alex. And then right into a bad simple song. Yeah, classic. And of course, it is the one that Alex Earl is in the music video for. So it all, because they got the rights, probably, all ties, all ties back together. She just calls up her pal Benson to be like, we got it. The song is perfect in this moment. That conversation just like really broke my heart because clearly, it's like, we know where that conversation went. This was filmed months ago. We know where things are right now. And what's happening. And it clearly wasn't good. Like it wasn't a good. Oh, Alex, I think it was like, you know, this is still how I feel about it. Right. And I think we got a glimpse of how Braxton feels in general about the whole thing when he called her. She picked up, said, we're filming and he ended the face. And then he said, like, when she texted him at four in the morning, and he was like, it's hard to believe anything's off camera. Which is fair because that was on camera. Yeah. That's hard. It's really hard to navigate because then you really don't know, like, even if you're Braxton, you're like, is this being played up for the show? Is it not? Is this how you really feel? Like, can we talk about it? Not on camera, on camera, all these things. And also the fact that they broke up not even in person. It was over the phone. And then they never saw each other. Like, that is tough. That's tough. I would also want some sort of closure too. That's like, I don't know how you don't sit and have that conversation. But I mean, I've enjoyed the show. I think we have a lot of elements of like an early Kardashians. I know in the press, the show is like, there's already been articles about how terrible it is and what a terrible mirror of society that this is like a show, blah, blah, blah. But I was also, you know, if you think back to when Kardashians, the first season of Kardashians, they were destroyed. They were like, you know, for societies over as we know, and if this is the show that people are spending their time watching. And guess what? They are still on TV. So people do care. And people are interested. And I, I was pretty entertained by the show. I saw that at certain points, people thought maybe some moments were boring. But it's like at first season of reality show, they're doing it. They've never done it before. I think they're finding their, finding their footing and being come just having certain things that they're comfortable with. Like, even Alyssa, I think was not super comfortable being on TV for a lot of this, which is so fair. How about the so fair situations between her and Todd and TJ calling her a young piece of ass on the Golden Bachelor. And then Todd was like, this isn't cool. Yeah, Todd's like, I'm right fucking here. I got to be honest. I was eating all that up. I was like, this is how way I was. I was telling my friends. I was like, honestly, I can watch a reality show with the four of them. Like, this is a, this, this parental dynamic is I just really something. I got to be honest. I just ate TJ up on this show like him being like, I don't know. Sometimes my humor is not for everybody. I just say things sometimes that maybe I shouldn't. I was like, hell yeah. Clearly it's TJ. But all in all, I think that they will have done enough to earn themselves a second season. I think so as well. Truly is all about bringing friends together. It's about turning. We should get together and to see you Saturday. 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CT and Fadra are dating. Now there were a couple of Instagram stories where they're like our CT and Fadra dating. It was like super random. Then they popped out red carpet appearance and they're dating. So they were at the Emmys. They were on or Fadra was on with Jeff Lewis and I mentioned that they were dating and then all the Bravo accounts were picking it up and sharing it saying, oh my gosh, you said that they're dating and they're going to the Emmys, creative Emmys and sure enough, stepped on out together, full couple, couple poses, couple pictures, Fadra's posting them on Instagram. The whole thing, I want, wow, you know, what a pairing. It's one that everybody was rooting for when they were on the show on traders, traders. And we were like, this, you know, there's some chemistry between these two. And they took it off camera. And I love it. What a pair. Imagine CT just like, it's on real houses of Atlanta. That would be awesome. That would be so good. Just gets in the mix. Yeah, I'm happy for these two. Who knew traders would set people up for some true love right now. Absolutely. And I, I, I talk about having hope in love. I was like, oh, this is fantastic. It's definitely a fun pairing. It really is because it's so random. But then you're like, this is so amazing. Right. Like it was so random until you remember they were on traders together. And I think they were flirting on traders. Yeah, there was that that that was happening. Yeah. So good for them. Miley Cyrus, new song, "Base for Swage." She released it on Thursday last week. A new album is right around the corner. This is giving Lady Gaga to me. The last album, Mayhem Lady Gaga, a little bit of Madonna, maybe a different than the rock vibe that we thought. Because we said EDM and then we thought rock. Yeah. And then I kind of went back to dance. It's probably closer to dance. Yeah. I think it has to grow on me. It's definitely. So wanted it. It's definitely a catchy song. I felt it to be familiar to Harry Styles dance no more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, you know, like the message. Yeah. The message of the song and kids don't want to dance. But I do like the message behind the song. Though obviously, you know, if we keep making songs about how people aren't dancing anymore, maybe people will be about the streamed into dancing. And that we can be here for. I think it's one of those songs that's absolutely going to grow on me. Yeah. And just get you to it right off the bat was I like, oh my god, I fucking love this song. If I'm being honest, no. Yeah. But I can see myself being like, oh, what? I fuck with it. I agree. And you know what else? So I saw a lot of comparisons too was like Deweleepa. And the Lil Peeps and Miley fans, I feel like we're kind of getting into it. Really? Yeah. Why? The stands. Because I think they thought that the song sounded like training season. Oh, oh, huh. But I guess I never thought of it like that. Like I don't know if it was. I just follow guys. I saw some stuff on Twitter. Yeah. - Did I send you that tweet that was like, this music video looks like the thing that plays at the AMC. - Yes. (laughs) - Yeah, there was a lot of, yeah, there was, I'm looking about a lot of people that got a lot of duolipic comparisons. But I saw that too. It did feel like a blend. It was a lot, it felt like there was a lot of it. It's like you go, go, Madonna, do a kind of combining, it's just maybe like a little bit of a different genre for her right now from what she was doing. Which is always cool because I do think Miley does that really well when a new album comes out or a new thing, like her sounds changes and she makes different music. So I'm intrigued to see what else comes from this. Like where else this goes with the one we get the whole album. The music video is cool too. - Yeah, I love the music video. - Yeah, I'm excited to hear the whole album 'cause I feel like it will all come together as one. While we're on the topic of music sampling, like other music, you guys need to explain this to me because you're both on this side of TikTok that I am not on. Settle lefty, she was actually in the office recently. And I have to be completely honest. That was the first time I ever heard her name. And apparently she is one of the most popular people right now. - Well, it took a good turn. - I feel like an old head. - Not for a good reason. - I feel own. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you are, you are young. She, so they're calling her self-efty. - Oh my God. - Yeah. - Sorry, that's. - No, it's, it's unfortunate. - It really. - It's really unfortunate. - Yeah, they're calling her self-efty. - If I was her, I would be like, "Fuck, that's a good nickname." - Yeah, they're self-efty. - Like they fucking got me. - Really, it's, so it's interesting because it really felt like the discourse around her was so positive, and people were loving her, and they were like, "You gotta listen to this new girl. "She's great." - The guys in the office, everybody was hyping her up. They were like, "So excited about it." - You guys too were like, "Oh my God, she's. " - Okay. - No, I'll just say, I didn't know who she was really. I've never listened to her. - No, you guys both when she came in the office was like, "She's huge." - No, I just knew because. - We knew she was huge, but it wasn't coming from a place of like, "We've listened to our music, "and oh my God, she's huge." - Okay, I was just like, "I want to talk about it." - We know everyone's talking about her. - I had no idea you guys were like, "Our back's against the wall, "we were wrong." - I know. - But we were like her. - No, to be honest, I can't say whether or not I did or didn't. I think I've listened to one song all the way through. - Really? - I heard you guys were starting a fan club. - Yeah, yeah. - Just a two of you. - Her biggest song is the Boston song, right? - Yes. - And people are making fun of the lyrics. So that song, I've seen this a lot, where it's like, "She goes, I'm on a train to Boston," and then like two lines later, she goes, "I don't know where it's going." - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But you're on a train to Boston. - But you said you're kind of awesome. - If we really dive into everyone's lyrics-- - No, I mean-- - That I find to be a little unfair, because there's a lot of ridiculous things there. - There's a lot of the negative rhetoric around her. Is that like her lyrics mean nothing? Like all her songs are just like-- - Yeah, they do think that it's maybe some AI situations are happening here. Here's also the thing. Everybody was pumping her up really excited. - She's a NEPO, right? - Big NEPO. - Everyone found out that she is the daughter of the founder of Groupon, billionaire. - He's a billionaire, like a lot of bees. And I actually don't know if that necessarily falls into NEPO, like she's just really rich. - You have a accent. - You know what I'm saying? No, no, I understand, but it's like billionaires can open up the door. - No, they certainly can, but in the sense of life-- - I had to be in a billionaire's case. - I always think that when someone's in the same industry, like I think of it for-- - You don't think they're connected, like he could call any, like he's a con, the head of Groupon, who's a billionaire, could make any call to any record label. - Right, he knows who. - Of course, but he doesn't work in the music world. - No, but he goes-- - But he's power. - Name a price. - Yeah, yeah. - Right? Groupon guy goes name a price. - Think about all the streams he's bought. - No, it started into a big hitter. So listen, I'm not saying 100% that Groupon guy paid for-- Stella Lefty. But I do think there's a world where that absolutely could be the case. I think if 100% that was Groupon guy, I'd be like, yo. - Yeah, look, there's a lease, pay up, dad. I'm trying to be famous. - Yeah, there's a lot of talented singer-songwriters on TikTok who don't ever get any-- - I have a seat to like, 'cause they don't have the money. - Any coverage, because they don't have the means-- - Or the sources. - And she definitely has-- - To get into the right room, for sure. - She definitely has, and some people really do like her and like her music and enjoy it. The problem is now, is there's just been a couple cases of songs sounding like other songs. So with "Bot With Boston," people are like 60s. This is 60s in "No Acon" like-- - I gotta listen to this song. - She ended up actually crediting "No Acon" as a writer because I think "No Acon"'s team had reached out. - After. - After words, to be like this really sounds like "Stick Season." And then she got a, "No Acon" is now listed as a writer. - Did you see the compilation video that someone made? 'Cause she originally was like, I'll do it if they asked, but like I was never thinking about anything when I wrote this song. And then there's a compilation video of when she was on TikTok before she blew up. She covered "Stick Season" like a thousand different times and said like, this is my favorite song of all time. - That's awesome. - Sometimes you could just really appreciate a liar. Like someone just goes all out to be like, what are you talking about? You're making this up up. - Wait. - Right, okay, so this is awesome. So now-- - This is awesome. - And then it's just, okay, so. All right, so then. - There was still a thefty. - No, I mean, listen. Poor girl, like that she's getting ribbed apart before I'll sell a thefty. But also how much do you say poor girl when you've just been blatantly stealing people's music? I don't know how to feel. I need everyone to know. I'm extremely new to this. - Yeah. - So every reaction I'm having right now is just coming out in the way that I am being fed the information and it's genuine reaction. - It has only made me-- - This is-- - It has only made me get old. - I don't know why this is making me laugh. So hard, like this is-- - Okay. - But when you're just straight up being a thefty. - Yeah. - Like this. - Yeah. - I mean, do you almost respect it? - Right. - Like, you know what? Fucking props were just openly being a stealer. - That kind of feels to me like that. - Like, they should have sued this billionaire guy for as much money as they like-- - Right, right. Well, so then now, so then how's your another song come out? Summer, you were mine. And that was being compared to the chicks, which is this. (upbeat music) With those ones, and check me on this Noah, I believe when she put this one out, it was like, "Oh, it interpoles the chick song." So it was like, they were, that came out right away of like, it interpoles that song. I know you hear it, but that's like when you go about doing-- - See that thing? - That's where I don't want to live. If I'm her. Stella lefty faces fourth plagiarism allegation. - So the fourth plagiarism allegation? - So the problem now with this one. - She's still like Shelton's song too. - So now this is the most recent one is her song, "Misery," which came out in 2025. So like this song's been out, but I think just because Stella has gotten all of this attention now, they're like going back and listening. And she, so a million, I did think that one. It sounded like Cheryl Crow soak up the sun. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It did sound like soak up the sun. - So but, can you say, does it say that they interpulled that song? - Yeah, the song was approved, was approved interpillation. - But the comments that Cheryl Crow, so it did sound like that. - Yeah, it just has that kind of vibe. - There's just so many different. - Then came why wouldn't we from a long way home owed Blake Shelton's? - My favorite one is the greater Shelton. 'Cause I feel like she thought, okay, underground. - I'll steal from the greatest-- - 2025. And let me tell you, that's the one that got my attention the fastest. 'Cause if there's one thing I love, it's the greatest, Shelmond. - Is there an argument to be made that country music? Oh, so much country music sounds the same. - Or a lot of songs. - Yeah, a lot of songs. - And every genre that you could probably find songs to sound like other songs. - To me, that tempo. That sounds like, to me, that sounds like a loop Ryan song that just came out that everyone's making fun of on TikTok. - I don't even know. - I'm out of the loop on country like this. - Yeah, yeah. Well, loop Ryan had a new song that came out that was just like, Zoom goes the truck and down goes the bit, like it's just like, like feeling like obvious things. And then all the comments were like, Oh, the top goes the truck. - The top comment goes the right. - That was fart goes the butt. That's why I was making fun of. Fart goes the butt, loop Ryan's new song. Fart goes the butt, slam goes the clam. Down goes the volume. - Lamb goes the clam. - Slam goes the clam. - Well, those are all comments, people took it, you know? It's a hell yeah dude, this sucks. Like, pap goes the smear. D's goes the nuts, like you people. People had a lot of fun with that one. Anyway, what caught my attention with the Stella with Misery, which came on 2025. So it's already been out for a long time. But now people on TikTok are comparing it to a million dreams by, you know, on the greatest showman's soundtrack. And this one might be the most blatant to me, to be honest. Like this one. - It's a immediate. - It's a immediate. - Jesus, this is worse than the sticks, he says. - No, it's like, 'cause people were like, "Oh, she's been doing this, it was for a while." That one was by far the one that I was like, "Okay, this is a million dreams." But it just really seems to be one, unfortunately, it's like one thing after another for her. - I mean, right now she's just-- - Her next album cover, like her wearing a robber mask, Stella Thefty. - Right, or is she just like, every song she puts out, she just openly does like interpolation and gets approval, and then we can't really say anything if she gets approval. - Who was the-- - But then it's still like, it's like, you know what I'm saying. - Was it Millie Vanilley? Was like a famous lip sinker? Am I thinking of the correct thing here? - Oh, okay, Millie, Vanilley, the bigger scandal was that they actually didn't sing on their own records at all. - Oh, nice. Nice. - Who's just other people? - Rumors spread that Millie Vanilley did not sing, but it was like a conspiracy. - Or a real thing. - I got no idea. - This is gonna take too long for me to look into this. - No, that's so fine. It's just, it's at the point where it's like, just when you think that there could be another one, there's somehow another song for Stella Thefty, which has got to be tough. And I gotta say, I do feel bad in the sense that like, as she was getting popular, it was just so, it just seemed to be so positive, and she was probably feeling the love and was like, I got something great going, and then it just comes crashing down in that sense. And for that, like, that I feel bad, because that's like, that's such a, a quick, that's why you just can never, you just can never get too happy about any online love. - Oh, man. - Because things could just change in an instinct. - Yeah, yeah, yep. - Instant, not instinct. - Sorry, that's a crazy headline. On long way home, Stella Thefty has no clue where she's going. - Oh, man. - That's tough. - That's tough, but. - Stella Thefty is a fourth-still F.D. - Look, look, there are still plenty of people that are online that like her and are defending her and they like her music. - What if they like this song? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - What's all of her? - I heard, I heard Ronan Sass talking about it the other day, on their show 'cause Ron likes her. And Sass was like, come on, man. And Ron was like, you know, I'm a fan. - Everyone's calling her an industry plant. - Yeah. - And I think Ron was trying to say that she's not, but. - Well, the thing is, just because everybody's hating on somebody, you definitely shouldn't hate on, like, if you like somebody, then you like them. - For sure. - That's just a common engine thing there. - Yeah, you know how TikTok is now. It's like, it's such a bandwagon thing. So, like, as soon as it started to go viral, people calling her still a thefty and all these things, like, everyone's jumped on. - And the thing is, like, it shouldn't turn into, if somebody says they like a celebrity song, or sorry, sorry, oh my God. I swear, I swear to God, I didn't mean to do that. If they say they like a Stella Lefty song, that's someone's gonna be like, she's a terrible person. You shouldn't like her, like, it really shouldn't go. - Oh, I already saw Sass. - No, but it shouldn't go that far. - As someone shared that they liked her music and she was getting happy to destroy it in the comments. - Oh my God, but she's a horrible hero, man. Like, right, all right, all right, all right. You know, let's slow down. Slow it down here for a second, okay. - I know. And she got a lot of heat for singing. That's her Instagram post right there. No, she was at the Grand Ole Opry. - Oh yeah, Kelsey Bell. - Kelsey Bell. - I made it happen. - Kelsey Bell, and he stepped in to defend her, yeah. So. - Oh yeah, I mean, because people just jump out of it. - But now people are just like making fun of her for, like, stupid things. That's where I feel bad. They're like, when she does the lip sings, she's smiling and singing, and they're like, your lips aren't even touching when you're singing. Like, how could you be producing it? - I didn't know it was like. - I didn't know that she was getting destroyed on was. - But that's because some interview where it was like, talk about your process and whatever, and her only, she was only talking about, like, I have to post. I have to come up with all these, she wasn't talking about, like, the music. She was talking about her, like, social media. Where people, like, she's more about the social aspect than, like, the actual stuff. - I will defend her in that sense that I do think that these artists that get big on social, or if you start to get any traction on social, you have to be insanely on top of it, for sure. Like, that's how she got to where she is. People will say, people will say that's not true, 'cause of her dad, and say that's not what it was. But, she's been around for enough time where it's been like, she was putting in the work, like, posting on social a lot and having, that be where a lot of the traction came from from her, because that's where it came from. It wasn't like, oh, traditional, or, like, she put on the radio, or some other musician. She was opening for another musician. Some of founder was like, really all from her own social that she blew up. - Yeah. - So, I don't know. She's probably just really wrapped into that world. - Yeah. - And, yeah, I don't know. - It's tough, but the proof is in the pudding. - It's in the pudding, but I just, right. It just didn't, I don't think you should turn it into some, like, grandmaster. - No, and everyone's like. - Right, well, that's where it turns into it. They make fun of her looks and the way she's singing and all these other things. I'm like, oh, that's me. - That makes me feel bad, yeah. - Still a theftiest, it's tough. - It's unfortunately, it's unfortunately right there. - It's just too good of a name. - Yeah, like, it's just, unfortunately, it was just put right in front of us, and there's just no way. - There are, see, that's a better name than still a theft. - You can get around that. - Like, it's a cooler sounding. - Still a theftiest, yeah. She should just go by that. - Well, she just was going off her own name, so it's a weird way, it's like, you know, it's not like she just made Lefty up. - Right, but she could just rebrand. - Yeah, yeah. That is not her full last name, but it's just a play on her last name. - No, it's a long last name. - Yeah. - All right, well, listen, we'll stay on top of this. - Yeah. - And I'm sure we'll come back around and she'll put out a song and we'll love and then we'll hop up again and then a couple of months from now, everyone will go, remember, whenever I was hating with that Lefty, why did we do that? This is just the name of the internet sometimes, and it's, could be tiring. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But she absolutely, yeah. - Whatever comes out next, like has to be an original song. - Yeah, she absolutely can't be. - It can't sound like anything else in people's songs. - It can't sound like a new song. - It's gotta be new. - It cannot sound like another song from a great show. - No, it can't, absolutely not. Mama Mia, maybe. - Yeah. - Have a, yeah. - All right, that wraps up the topics. - All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. 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