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A new MIT paper showing how a bigger model can edit the actual weights of a smaller model has people thinking about it, and Wall Street investors who are trying to understand where the next leg of growth comes from are also digging deep into what RSI might mean. On this episode, we're looking at a set of stories whose throughline is RSI, and more broadly, what comes next for AI. But it starts with Elon Musk casting doubt on the entire personal agent space. The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI. All right, friends, quick announcements before we dive in. First of all, thank you to today's sponsors, KPMG, Robots and Pencils, C-Data, and Blitzy. To get an ad-free version of the show, go to patreon.com slash AI Daily Brief, or you can subscribe on Apple Podcasts. And to learn more about sponsoring the show, send us a note at sponsors at ai-daily-brief.ai. Two more quick announcements. 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One of the conversations that has been swirling around quite a bit throughout 2026, but especially over the last couple of months, is what it means for the AI industry and society more broadly, that AI models are getting closer to being able to improve themselves. On Alphabet's recent earnings call, CEO Sundar Pichai said, We're at the point where AI is helping us increase our training and launch velocity. I would expect the next 12 months to see continued acceleration because of RSI. Now, today's stories are not exactly all about RSI, but there is a through line in how the continued acceleration of AI meets adoption of AI, how that impacts market potentials, and what the state of RSI actually is. The first, then, of our troika of stories comes after a seemingly nonchalant, but not really at all nonchalant, post from Elon Musk, where he said over the weekend, The cost of serving Grokbot was unsustainably high relative to revenue. The genesis of this had been that over the weekend, Grokbot users complained that they were starting to hit usage limits that had never been a problem before. Elon was responding to someone's request to increase or reset those usage limits. Now, Elon didn't give any more details. It's unclear through which plans users were accessing Grokbot, but for those watching the AI space closely, especially market bears, the post hit with the force of a bomb. For some, there was a weird contradiction in Elon's communications over the past couple of weeks. Just a couple of days ago, he had posted, Saving money for the distant future is pointless with the advent of superintelligent abundance. But as Bruno Lemos and others pointed out, just a couple days later, he's talking about costs being too high. Benjamin Dukraker went a little bit farther back, resharing an Elon post, from a couple of weeks ago, when he said, Never seen anything grow as fast as Grokbot. And there is no free tier, which means people are deriving real value in excess of what they pay. Dukraker writes, Two weeks ago, Grokbot was an incredible success story powering SpaceX AI's revenue growth. Now it's unsustainable and loses money? For some, Elon's weird communications were entirely secondary to the feeling of betrayal around the plans. User Shrek said, This isn't about us not having enough usage or picking the wrong plan. I've been buying the 12-inch pizza from your place forever, and you guys are not buying it. You guys have always given me a normal 12-inch. Then one day, I open the box, and it's a 6-inch. You tell me costs are too high, so from now on, the 12-inch is actually 6-inches, and if I'm still hungry, it's my fault for not choosing the right size. That's insane. If you needed to cut costs, just tell us ahead of time. If your pizza is good and I still want it, I can just order two or three of these fake 12-inch ones. Or if I'm not full, I can go somewhere else. Either way, that's my call, not yours. But you don't get to keep selling me a normal 12-inch, and then suddenly shrink it to 6-inches with zero notice, not even a heads-up so that I can adjust. Don't turn around and say I picked the wrong subscription. The problem is you unilaterally changed what you were delivering without telling anyone. Others thought that inevitably this was good news for the other personal agents. Alex Michael wrote, This is a huge win for Dots and Duet and will most likely drive a lot of users right back to them. Noose Research, the makers of Hermes, of course, jumped all over it and shared specific instructions on how Grokbot users can migrate to Hermes. But the most interesting discussion, whether the issues that Elon and SpaceX are running into are less about anything having to do with SpaceX and their position in the AI race and more about the funding, are the fundamentals of this product category. Dax from OpenCode reposted Elon and said, This is another major reason why we weren't super excited about this shape of product, by which presumably Dax means personal agents. Continuing, he says, People don't want to pay for it, so it has to be a top-of-funnel product that leads to something else. Not sure what the something else could be yet. Now, careful observers will note that this sort of conversation about the cost center that is free AI users on free consumer tiers that will never pay and how it impacts the cost center that is free AI users on free consumer tiers and how it impacts the ability of the company to monetize more broadly has been around for a very long time. It was a major subject of discussion in the fall 2025 vintage of bubble debates where people were basically concerned that OpenAI's breakaway chat GPT success could actually be a hindrance because of how much it costs to support all of those free users. For as long as we have been talking about personal agents, especially this year as they've gotten more real, there have been some who have applied those same sort of claims that since consumers aren't willing to pay for this category of product, they're just going to be a cost center for the people offering them and they're going to have to be made up for in other ways. And that remains an open debate. And certainly market skeptics jumped right to what this might mean for all the other companies offering these products, which includes very notably Meta, who've been riding high on the fact that Muse's leading place in this category has given them a foothold in the AI race more broadly. Certainly the bears were very happy to jump all over this as fate accomplished that the bubble was done and the game was over. Eric Sky writes, Nick Huber, who was all about traditional boring businesses and very skeptical of many categories of tech startups and certainly AI, got on his high horse and said, This is all of AI right now. The music will stop. Better find your chair. VC money runs out. Means prices rise dramatically. Means users drop off. Means valuations plummet. Hedgy Markets thinks it's just another sign of the end of the subsidy era. They wrote, Grok users ran out of usage days early this week, and Musk was straight with them about why. This is the end of the subsidy era. I wrote about in this week's newsletter. AI companies price their plans below cost to win users, and that only works while investors cover the difference. A full month on a $200 ChatGPT Pro plan would cost about $14,000 at regular API prices according to one analysis this summer. Now, I think by that he's referring to semi-analysis, but his note that this was the discussion this summer is worth taking a moment on. You might remember that we did an AI subsidy era episode back at the end of April. The episode not only argued that the AI subsidy era was coming to an end, but tried to provide a set of actions for businesses to adapt to it. So, make no doubt that this is not some new conversation, and it has been inevitable for quite some time. For whatever reason, we got distracted by other things for a couple months over the summer and stopped talking about this, but now that there's so much bubble analysis once again, and critical analysis, with Anthropic getting close to IPO, the story is back, because of course the debate about the implications was never resolved. The bare case with these subsidies ending is basically that when AI companies actually have a subsidy, they have to charge the correct or natural rate for their product, i.e. charge customers what the tokens actually cost plus a little bit of margin for themselves, not a version of that that is subsidized by someone else, like venture capitalists and private equity investors, that people don't value or can't afford to value the intelligence at that natural price enough to continue spending in the way that they have been, and thus it means that all the valuations of all these companies are off. That is a possible outcome, and I think it's completely reasonable for market actors to try to figure out how to do that. how to price in that risk. In fact, in general, I will say here that despite the fact that I am very much not an AI bear, I have no issue at all with the AI bears in the market right now. I think it would be much more dangerous if everyone was too enamored of Anthropic and OpenAI to actually ask these critical questions. I think that likelihoods of a bubble are decreased in proportion in some ways to the loudness of the bears and the resonance of their message with a broad base of investors. Now, I also, of course, think that there's a wide spectrum of the quality of bearish analysis, and that perhaps listening to the perma-bears who have gotten it wrong for years and continue to move the goalposts to get it right might not be your best play, but overall, I think their voices are an important part of the market segment, and I think it's valuable that investors are taking time to price in the risks that they're talking about. So, all that said, I don't particularly think that the shift to API pricing for everyone actually changes all that much. Basically, I think that the plan users shift into one of two categories. The people for whom the models that come with more efficiency trade-offs are good enough for their types of uses, who stay on their $20 or $30 a month plan because for their use cases, it doesn't change all that much. And then on the other side, the people who are getting enough value out of whatever plan they're on, whether it's $20 or $200, that they're willing to actually pay for the intelligence they consume and just treat it as a cost of doing business. I'm certainly not a super normal example of this, but I have APIs running all over the place in addition to my premium plans, and there's absolutely no doubt that the value that I get out of them is well worth the cost. I do things with those APIs for, yes, a premium cost, but a premium cost that's still far below what the comparative human labor would have cost, which, by the way, is not a one-to-one replacement because the human labor would have cost too much in both actual money as well as time to recruit and manage those people. So from an economic perspective, this is net new money that I'm spending that I would not have spent before. What I believe that we've seen in 2026, basically since the rise of the agentic era, is that a huge amount of the revenue on an actual percentage basis is coming from power users who are already paying via the API. In fact, I think there's a bit of a weird contrast between two bear arguments sitting next to one another. Is it that when people start paying on the API, people are going to drop off and stop using AI because they don't get enough value out of it anymore, or is the market too concentrated among a very small number of power users? Now, of course, the more nuanced in-between argument here is the one that you've seen people like Chamath Palihapitiya make that argues that too many of those power users are currently subsidized by VC dollars, and that could present some significant problems. I think that's a much more interesting thing to explore. Still, right now, we don't know. And all that we have is this sort of interpretation. Hello, everyone. One big change around AI is we've shifted our thinking from how we rank our pages to how do we become the source that AI trusts enough to answer with. At KPMG, they're seeing this firsthand. AI-generated results now surface answers directly, often without a single click. That's why they are increasingly focused on Generative Engine Optimization, or GEO, structuring content so AI systems can retrieve it, understand it, and cite it as trusted authority. This is not just an SEO evolution, but a visibility mandate. And indeed, the GEO mandate from KPMG is simple. 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There are more than a few people who think this is some version of 4D chess, with Musk pushing the markets to sell off harder in hopes of making some cheap acquisitions or harming rivals. But right now, we just don't know. What we do know is that Elon Musk has a lot of money in his bank account. There are still some companies who are betting very heavily on personal agents, even if Elon seems to be pulling back. Olivia Moore from A6CNZ thinks that when it comes to Meta's Muse, the real story isn't even really consumer, it's Muse for small businesses. She wrote, Muse for SMBs might be the most underrated story in consumer agents right now. They have near infinite consumer distribution at very low cost, with a base of 3.64 billion daily active users across Meta apps. But even more importantly, more than 500 million SMBs use Meta for marketing. If Meta gives agent discoverability to that SMB base, it could be a huge boost, especially for local businesses who can hyper-target users with urgent purchase needs. Meta said in their Q3 earnings call and in blog posts prior that they plan to build an ecosystem of connectors for SMBs and Muse. Analytics across your Meta accounts, plus QuickBooks, Canvas, Stripe, etc. Many of these businesses are already trusting Meta with their growth in ad dollars. I could see Muse becoming almost a nervous system for SMBs that allows Meta to capture more and more of their activity over time. Interestingly, even as these businesses are already trusting Meta with their growth in these discussions about the viability of personal agents we're swirling, we got two new benchmarks introduced that go some way towards measuring the value of these sort of personal agents. The semi-analysis benchmark is called GDPX and is focused on economically valuable tasks like chip design, finance, and biology. They found that Opus 5.5 was the most valuable model to drive an agent, scoring 12% on their scale at $51 per task. Gemini 4 Carbon was in second place at 10.9%, but only cost $16 per task. Chubby NX jumped right in. Right at this question of efficiency, he wrote, While performing just 1.1% worse, Gemini 4 is about 4x cheaper than Opus 5.5. So cost performance-wise, Gemini 4 wins by a lot. And one of the obvious questions that clearly the labs are thinking about right now is how to use more efficient models to drive down the costs of personal agents, similar to what has been a focus with coding agents across this year. As we'll see later, there's all sorts of buzz around new training techniques as well that lead some to think that it's possible that we'll see stronger, smaller models in the coming year that make for a more efficient model. Make personal agents a lot more cost-effective. OpenAI's new benchmark, meanwhile, called LifeVal, sets out to measure the value of personal agents in everyday life. Writes OpenAI, For the more than 1 billion people who currently use ChatGPT every week, we want to build AI that can help with the practical challenges of everyday life, like finding childcare, accessing government services, creating a budget, preparing for school, modifying recipes, ordering groceries, designing workout plans, and more. OpenAI's scoring shows a steady increase in capability from GPT 5.2 to GPT 6 Astra, rising from 49.3% success to 80.6% success. More importantly, OpenAI is now measuring and hill-climbing against these everyday tasks with free users in mind. As we've seen with coding, once a capability is measured and becomes a target for reinforcement learning, it dramatically improves and becomes more cost-effective. Vraser X commented, Forget all the flashy AI benchmarks. LifeVal is arguably the most important benchmark for 99% of AI users. This is what actually matters. Simon Smith wrote, Feels like this is the kind of post you publish right before releasing a personal agent to the general public. Question for me is whether ChatGPT gets better at being a personal agent before Muse gets widespread voice mode. ChatGPT's voice mode is awesome, but Muse is the better personal agent. And yes, I use dots at work and try them for personal use so I know what they're capable of and still prefer Muse. Now, let's actually move over to the story that with just a glance at the AI community seems to be the biggest one of the day. As you'll see, it potentially has some implications. For all of these cost questions around personal agents. The TLDR is that MIT researchers have published groundbreaking research that could change the way that model training works. Led by PhD student Rukia Takahi, the researchers found that GPT-6 Astra was capable of reading and directly adjusting the weights of a small model to improve its performance. The experiment used QEN 3.5 0.8b and targeted improvements in reasoning. Astra changed only 0.016% of the weights and yet was able to improve QEN scores. Astra's results showed that GPT-6 Astra was able to improve QEN scores on math benchmarks by 6x and instruction following by 3x. In their abstract, the researchers wrote, We find that frontier LLMs are surprisingly good at natively reading and writing neural network weights, well past what we'd expect from humans or conventional algorithms. This might be a big deal for both optimization and interpretability. Just by looking at the weights, GPT-6 Astra can tell what a network was trained to do. And without any environment feedback, it has no trouble writing, from scratch, small game-playing networks, to outplay networks trained with PPO for 100 million steps. PPO, or proximal policy optimization, by the way, is a standard reinforcement learning algorithm in use by the major labs. The research is worth reading in full, or having Claude or ChatGPT read and talking to it about, and includes multiple surprising results. But when it comes to altering QEN's weights, the process was extremely straightforward. Takahi wrote, own model card warns about, with a budget of 50 forward passes on practice problems, it located the the cause and edited it out. This used no gradients or training. Fixing these loops by editing just 0.016% of weights boosted other capabilities beyond math too. People were incredibly excited about this result. Yuchen Jin wrote, this is cool as heck. Imagine using a large LLM to directly edit a smaller model's weights and dramatically improve its capabilities. It's like gene editing for neural networks. Even cooler than distillation. Developer Nick Dobos wrote, Astra can handwrite new weights from scratch that outperform other AI training techniques. What? They buried the lead. Improving math via a looping bug fix is very cool, but debugging and fixing weights is quite limited versus generating brand new weights. If this works, is training large AI models even needed anymore? Is this true RSI? And for those like Professor Ethan Malek who said, this seems really cool, but let's wait for some replicated results. Well, it didn't take long for Alex Krenzel, a senior researcher at Google to replicate the results. Alex noted, this is a new step change emergent capability. This is a new step change emergent capability. This is a new step change emergent capability that's appeared in just the latest set of models. Now he did continue some very important caveats to understand these results. Note that the models being edited here are very small. The breakout model in their post in my experiment is 20,486 parameters. Frontier models are more than a trillion parameters. The way that I'm thinking about it is this. There's a whole body of work of interpretability research from the 2010s, a la look at model, this neuron lights up when image contains dog. So this is the dog neuron. This seems akin to that, but scaled beyond human capability. We've done this by hand, but we've done it by hand. We've done this by hand, but we've done this by hand for smaller models. Then we built tools to help this for slightly bigger models. What we're seeing is the reasoning capabilities are enabling the models to do this by hand for much larger, but still relatively small models. Krenzel added that the obvious next step in the research is to test self-improvement at runtime, which he believes won't be feasible for current models, but could work within a few generations. As you might expect, whenever you have big bombastic claims like this, there's going to be a pretty heated debate about whether the test is overhyped. I think they are actually underselling the approach. We did similar experiments and found that clawed models can write entire functioning neural net weights from scratch. On the other side were people, however, like Wei-Yi Zhu from Microsoft Research, who said, the findings are pretty interesting indeed, but I think the headline is kind of overhyped. The 6x improvement on math came from fixing a loop bug in the original model, not from improving general math capability. And this was the main critique, that this is less about a new model training technique and more akin to a bug fix in an existing model. And yet for others, this was clear evidence that recursive self-improvement is not only a possibility in the future, but now has a clear mechanism that's understood and has been demonstrated in an academic paper. Tenebris wrote, I think you should strongly expect something like this to happen in the next year and for it to be one of the driving factors of RSI, and potentially quite steep RSI. Interpretability is incredibly dual use. Models that are good at optimization writ large are good at optimizing themselves. Now, RSI was also the main point of around an update of Anthropix S1 that they released on Monday morning. AI news aggregator Andrew Curran wrote, new language added on Anthropix S1A this morning says that internal estimates indicate they may imminently meet the RSI danger threshold of dramatically accelerated progress attributable to AI as much progress in one year as two years of the 2018 to 2024 baseline. They added that they are considering updates to their responsible scaling policy because they do not anticipate being able to safely use Claude to fully autonomously design and build successive generations of frontier models without meaningful human supervision or understanding. Basically, the new changes will be aimed at keeping humans in control of frontier model development rather than handing research over to the model entirely. Certainly, it is the case that financial professionals are taking note of RSI as one of the most important factors for the IPO. The Wall Street Journal published a chart from Anthropix showing that AI is now leading 26% of research. Their headline read, the smartest people in AI believe this is the world's most important chart. AI is starting to build better AI. The self-improvement is speeding up research and development and freaking everyone out. The headline seemed to reference Anthropix co-founder Jack Clark, who said that RSI might be the most important technical trend in the world. Anthropix first published this chart, by the way, back in September, based on August numbers, and it was boosted by former AI czar David Sachs over the weekend. Still, with the AI narrative beginning to sour, or at least having more questions as we've been exploring, it's notable that Wall Street investors are paying attention to the possibility that RSI leads to faster advances in model capability. As Sachs commented, that was back in August, so who knows what they're at now, being in October. Now, one thing I find interesting about that discussion is the presumption, so deeply embedded that no one feels the need to say it, that the key to greater adoption is improved models. The evidence that we have for that is that true step changes have unlocked new capabilities that have led to massively more adoption in the past. The most notable and important of these, of course, was the Opus 4.5 jump that led to the full agent decoding error that we've been living in ever since. In the absence, though, of some entirely new capability coming online, I don't think the evidence suggests that the key to improved adoption is solely model capability. I think ultimately, when it comes to whether these business models work or not, it's more or less a question of how much intelligence enterprises consume. They are, at the moment, consuming a vanishingly small portion of what they could, and it's not because the model capabilities aren't high enough. It's because inertia is real, corporate systems are not. Now, I think you could write a bear case or a bull case based on that. The bear case is that even with all this power, we're not using it. The bull case is, no, we're just not using it yet. Regardless, whatever investors want to tell themselves about RSI and its impact on adoption is fine. I'm just not sure model improvement has quite such a straight line to increased revenue as we might intuitively think. What I will say is that at least some of those investors are starting to ask what happens when we have RSI, not just how close to it are we. It feels like we're still stuck, broadly speaking, is RSI here yet or isn't it discussion, rather than what it means when it arrives. Right now, the only group offering any sort of vision for the world of RSI is the AI safetyists who are terrified of it and think it should be illegal. We may not agree, but at least they're actually articulating what they think the world is going to look like after that if and after RSI comes. It strikes me that like the AGI term before it, we may be getting so distracted with this three-letter acronym that we're spending more attention on trying to define it. And articulating how close it is to being here, then understanding what it will mean when it arrives. In any case, it continues to be a fascinating time in AI, but that is going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Appreciate you listening or watching, as always, and until next time, peace.