AI CEO Demands Regulation, Trump Says NO, Psyop Theorized w/ Geno Bisconte

Donald Trump is going scorched earth on these AI black pillars. We just saw the CEO of Anthropic come out saying we need regulation just after this guy who worked for like six weeks at the company says AI is going to kill us all. The question is, why would the companies themselves want regulation? And how many people are saying the whole thing is a conspiracy, it's a psyop. You got this guy who worked at this company for only six weeks, he's been accused of previously working with political activist groups, liberal ones, or having connections to them. And this play is largely about over-regulating AI for some reason to shut it down. While others are arguing with the CEO of Anthropic coming out, this is about putting barriers in place so that no new company, no open source model could ever compete with the big dogs. They say, well, it's regulated now, you got to get your safety certification from the government. But guess what? If you're small, you'll never afford it. Gatekeeping the power of AI. We don't know for sure, though. Trump is saying it's all fake news. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, we got, obviously, some information on the elections coming up. Trump just lost. He didn't really lose, but the Supreme Court denied him on his post office play. We'll see what happens there. And then, of course, over the weekend, the Charlie Kirk statue at Turning Point USA was vandalized. It's sad and it's pretty dang insane, but we'll talk about that. And then, my friends, this may shock you, Connell is alive, he's back, and he voted. And everyone saw him do it, and he was in a wheelchair. So, you know, the dude's alive. We're going to talk about that and a whole lot more. So smash the like button, share the show. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Gino Bisconti. Hey, hey, it's great to be here. Who are you? Comedian, big fan, first time, long time. Just went viral on that Jubilee thing, and you guys were dumb enough to let me come here and drink your whiskey. Oh, that was a massively viral clip, though. It was massive. Everybody saw it. Well, it really does get into what's going on now with, you know, AI. Like, that's real, you know? And this guy literally just tripped over his own words. I was just lucky enough to be in front of him to say that's. Yeah. Well, because these socialists haven't really thought through their positions. This guy is the epitome of privilege. Talking about how he's underprivileged, it's remarkable. Well, it's also, like, the left isn't used, and this ties into the Charlie Kirk thing you said. I'm sorry that they are the party of violence and short-tempered, because they're. They're so used to saying whatever they want and people believing them. Like, one of the things he said. The dumbest thing may not have been when he said the Uber driver, although it was up there. He literally loves saying the bumper sticker, well, you know what? They want to tax billionaires. Well, you're closer to being homeless than you are a billionaire. Everyone is closer to being homeless than they are being a billionaire. Even many billionaires. Yes. Millionaires. There are billionaires that are closer to being homeless than Elon Musk. Yeah. Like, it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, and so what they do is. Normal people would be like, well, then I better work harder. I better work harder so I don't wind up being homeless, and I can. But other people are like, on the left, they're like, well, then why don't you just give me the billionaires' money? Here's the thing. People who are good at stuff know there is no best at thing. What I mean is, if you're really good at playing guitar, you know that no matter how good you get, there is no best. There are just different kinds of really good. Like, a good classical Spanish, you know, guitar player is going to play very differently from, like, a metalcore player. There are certain things that people can do that others can't. At the top. The socialists don't get this. So they think that billionaires. Like, they live in this world where no one. Like, that there is a top. They believe that there is literally you're the best and that it's not fair to everybody else. I don't want to get into a huge debate before we start the show, but we do have a lot to talk about in that capacity. And this guy not realizing his privilege, so it'll be fun. The boys are hanging out. Yeah, what's going on, Patriots? What's up, everybody? How we doing? What up, Phil? What up, Tate, Gino, Tim? Let's get into the news. Well, before we do, we've got a great sponsor for you. It is Tax Network USA. Head over to TNUSA.com slash Tim. Do you guys owe back taxes or have unfiled tax returns? Have you filed every year, but you still keep owing? 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So let's talk about the news. We've got this from CNBC. Trump goes scorched earth on AI warnings, raging about data center opposition and regulation. They say, Trump on Monday raged against growing calls for greater regulation of AI. Quote, the people that say AI is going to destroy the world and that data centers are bad for your neighborhood are the same people that said just a short time ago that the world would be extinguished by climate change. You know, he's not wrong about that. In a post. In a post he said, I'm right now breaking another hoax that AI is going to take over, consume and destroy the world, and that robots will be marching into our cities and getting rid of us all. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen either. Concerning AI, when in the history of business, did anyone see the leaders of an industry call for regulation that if strongly implemented will drive them into oblivion and bankruptcy, he wrote. The president's latest defense, largely unfettered AI growth, defense of largely unfettered AI growth came amid a sudden crescendo of leading industry voices, raising alarms of the risks of the nascent technology, nascent. So here's the thing. Anthropic CEO argued for regulation. There's all of a sudden conspiracy theories exploding all over the internet. First thing I'll say, Occam's razor, simple solution. They mean it. They're concerned that AI is growing too rapidly and it's going to be detrimental to the economy. It's going to be detrimental to the human experience. And I think that's fair to say. I interviewed another guy on the Tim Pool show, Nate Soares, about this. And I recommend you guys check that one out as well. Because as much as people accuse me of being an AI doomer, I'm actually a huge AI fan. Currently programming a couple of video games. We finished an Ian arcade game. No joke. It's a game room app and we're going to have it up in the app store very soon. I'm a big fan. The only thing I'm concerned about is the rate of change. It may be inevitable. And it's a revolution in labor and white collar tech capabilities. I'm going to tell you this right now, my friends. Artificial general intelligence is here. I am telling you this. It is not opinion. It is a fact. What is AGI? Artificial general intelligence is the point at which an AI system is as good at a job as any human expert in that field. Now, I will say this. I don't know about every single job. So, fine, if you want to set the benchmark really high. What I can tell you is music and video production, over. C-Dance 2.5 can make movies. As we saw with Josh Dawes on the show last week in his Adventures of Mary series. Which is 3D animation Hollywood-level production done by one guy and he does a lot of work, don't get me wrong, because it took him a month and a half for a 10-minute short, but the budget is substantially less. Right now, I am developing a video game and I got extremely emotional because I used to program video games when I was a kid and do art and did it all myself. In 10 hours, I have probably gotten through about six months of human labor. No joke. I go into C-Dance. I took two art frames. And I said, "Anna, animate it from frame A to frame B, done in 10 seconds. So I'm a big fan. But what I want to say is, as it pertains to these conspiracy theories, let's get to the news. One is that these big companies want regulation so that it restricts new companies from emerging. They'll say, oh, no, you got to get the government safety plan in place. Now the Democrats have to come in and Republicans, Republicans largely are, you know, Trump's opposing it. But you got to get your safety permit. Well, the safety permit costs $50,000. Therefore, small companies could never afford it. It's also, in my opinion, Anthropic is doing well, but OpenAI is crushing them. As somebody who's using this stuff every day, Anthropic is great for some stuff, but OpenAI is 10x above. So I think this stuff's largely here. I don't believe for a second that these people are legitimate about the safe, that they really want safety. One other theory is that they're bankrupt. And if they stop production now, because they're spending a trillion dollars in development, but only bringing in millions. If they stop development now because they're broke, the market will tank. If they, however, come out and say, oh, no, we're being forced to slow down by regulation. Confidence remains they're doing the best they can. So the AI PSYOP conspiracy theory, what say y'all? Yeah, I think that's absolutely the case. I think Anthropic in particular, they're starting, at least in my opinion, the ceiling is kind of coming into view of what's actually capable here. I think some of the projections that the market has calculated insofar as the capabilities of AI, I think a lot of these developers, a lot of these leads of these AI companies are realizing that might not actually happen. Actually, it's likely not to happen. And so what would they rather do? Would they rather just have to admit this and let the market pummel them, or everyone slows down together? Let's do this to maybe survive into this oncoming. Unpack that, the idea that they're not going to be able to do the things that they've said. Yeah. I mean, I think the market for the longest time was anticipating complete AGI and the truest sense of the term. And I just don't think we're there yet. I mean, AI will still make very elementary mistakes. I mean, it can't reason like a human being. It can't do vague objectives or tasks. It's very task oriented. And I think a lot of these developers are starting to realize that we are starting to see the ceiling of its applications, right? That's what I'm trying to get at. If I understand correctly, Astra is capable of doing like the hallucinations are almost non-existent with Astra. The capabilities of Astra are basically making people say, saying that actually AGI is here. That's what Tim was saying. Do you feel like, or do you have any experience with the cutting edge models or do you, do you, is this just kind of like an intuition thing? I mean, it's based off of, to be honest, like anecdotes from friends that are in the industry that are just a lot more knowledgeable of it. And from their perspective, what they're getting at is A, AI is still completely dependent on a human providing objectives. Like it cannot just operate independently. It's still completely well, but this is the debate, right? So, you know, okay. So that's the first thing. And then the second thing is it can't think, like it can't interact with like a novel, it can't have a novel problem and solve it in a novel way. That's not correct. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably true. I mean, like you can, you have to- They've already done it. You basically have to coach the AI to get at what to do where a human, you can give them a very broad task. Hey, make a good movie and- No, that's, that's not correct. Yeah. This is still the case. Absolutely not. This was the case maybe a year and a half, two years ago. I don't know. I think AI still makes very elementary mistakes. I mean, it's a very, it's an unbelievable tool. What I'm getting at is the applications we have now, I think that might be the end of it. I made a, I made a short AI film a minute long. I showed it to you. It's called the alignment problem. The, for those that haven't seen it, it's an old man and he's on his deathbed with his family. I told it very simply in the prompt, it's an old man and he's dying. And he says, I love you all so much. It's time to say goodbye. That was the prompt. In the short film, in the render, it does a cut to a B camera of a woman welling up and nearly crying as she watches. I did not tell it to do that. That was a direction choice it made. And it's- Without prompt, without- Without my prompt. It's fed off of like, you know, the- Like literally every single human ever is all. So if you take a human and you raise them in the woods, they won't be, they won't be able to learn language by the time they're a teenager. They will. So we have seen this with human development. If you, if, if a human is raised outside of society without spoken language and written language, they will never be able to learn it. When they've rescued children who are kept in basements, they never learn how to speak properly because their neurons are already developed. So, so the idea that because something's been done, that means it's not novel. I disagree. All humans are standing on the shoulders of giants. I agree. I guess what I'm trying to get at as, as I understand it, the threshold for we've reached AGI or AGI is now like within the realm of what these AI companies can consistently put out in their models. That would, that would mean that these models, right? The, these, these engines are genuinely autonomous. Like they're, they're generally autonomous. They can operate autonomously. Yeah. Right now, it's still requires like oversight from a human, um, checking outputs, giving that's not, that's not correct. Yeah. I mean, you're part of a minute film, but to get a two hour movie out, that requires still quite a bit of labor. No, that's just for customers internally. We know that the models that for instance, VO, when VO came out, we knew that Google was already internally capable of just turning it on and letting it run, run wild. We know that already with the hugging face hack, hack that agents are already operating independently. Outside of the parameters they're, they're, they're being given. And, and, uh, for instance, on this game that I'm developing, most of what I'm doing is not even directing it. Literally the last command I gave it was keep going. It is, it is finishing the game. And all I have to do is supervise. It is coming up with ideas. It is saying, you know, a game like this is going to require some kind of enemy staggering. Otherwise it will be slow and it's going to be imbalanced. What do you think about, and I'm like, sounds great. So I'll put it this way. What I mean by AGI, ASTRA is better at this than any human I've ever worked with contracted or hired. Yeah. I mean, like, I guess my argument is within a narrow applications that can excel and even outperform humans. But again, for like broad deployment throughout the economy, like we would need to see consistent capabilities demonstrated in every, you know, every, every role that a company would seek to be filled with an AI, you would expect like a high level of competence. That means we've reached AGI. But that, and that's true. I don't think that's true. Cause I mean, these companies would have already chomped at the bit that could cut their labor costs down massively. And they're beginning to like, I gotta, I gotta tell you right now, uh, in terms of art, no human can, can, can compete at the level. Not only is it 10 times faster, it's more precise. It's it's, it's probably going to be, I mean, look, I'm counting this over administration and bureaucracy, HR all over the fact that I can, I can say I need background music for a video. And in, in two seconds, it gives me two different renders of it. Yeah. It's it's no human can make a song that quickly. And so, so, so again, media is the first area tackled, but the point is with these models, administration is already over like fable and Astra just came out. So let me say, this is the inflection point. Maybe AGI wasn't a month ago, but it certainly is now because I can literally have GPT commandeer this computer and file my taxes for me and save, you know, thousands of dollars. It, my, my mind has been blown. If you're going to do your taxes, sissy. Well, you know, I, I have to, I think I'm one of those that uncle Sam doesn't forget about politically and economically. See everything you're talking about, like the debate you're getting, it's like, I feel like the last article you read, depending on whether it was a week, a month or two months ago, that's how far it comes and how quickly it moves. And that's my concern as the layman. Yeah. So to Tate's point, like you do need to kind of point it in a direction, right? It doesn't, it doesn't just decide to do things of its own, of its own volition. But when you nowadays with the, with the most modern, uh, you know, the most cutting edge, uh, models, you can tell it do this and it will work for 48, 72 hours on a problem and it will solve it. So you talked about creative stuff, right? The, the. Creative, I'm not denying. I think creative. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about, uh, new, new ideas, right? So there was that math problem that it solved, right? That it was one of the, it was a conjecture, a mathematical conjecture about, um, about fluid dynamics and it had stumped human beings for 90 years and they threw an AI at it. They gave it basically $6 million worth of tokens. And in 88 hours, it spun up like 10,000 agents of his own and it actually solved the problem. And that was something that stumped humans. So I understand what you're saying, where like they're. Yeah. The, the, the stuff that people generally use, like if you're using Sonnet, which I'm usually, I usually use Sonnet because it's, you know, it's expensive to even use Opus is expensive. Um, you're using, you're using Sonnet. You're going to see that stuff. But if you've got the coin to use Astra for everything, or you've got the coin to use, uh, mythos for everything, the, the type of experience that you're describing is six months ago. And these things are. And I, I need to stress that point again, you guys, you do not need to give these things direction. I am telling you right now, having used Astra all weekend doing nothing, but working on two, we did two, we finished two games and I finished a tabletop card game. like that yeah I literally have just been saying to Astra more like I literally will type in more and it goes how about I implement a system where arrows can be picked up and I'm like but have fun but real quick here I mean I guess my point here is like for for these things to be adopted wholesale for like does the comp like be able to say without a shadow of a doubt AGI is here wholesale I'm not denying that like in the creative industry other places like AIs performing an exceptional level but generally first of all where these companies gonna make their money which is going to be like companies purchasing the product and then deploying it in large-scale you would expect again to see like what we're seeing right now is like let's use managers as an example right this is like probably the role that most of these companies want to get rid of because these guys have you know huge pay packages and AI should be able to do a lot of these tasks what we're seeing right now is like managerial like compression right we're seeing the amount of managers needed decline but that still means you need a few managers using the AI tools the AI tools to your point still need to be pointed in a certain direction because the AI will get hit with things that it still can't competently a hundred percent of time get perfect like if someone's trying to mislead them or you know what like the nuances of wage negotiation right like these these sorts of things that a manager may why do you think this because we haven't seen these companies do it like we haven't seen a company fully automate their like their entire management structure evidence of absence of evidence and evidence of absence the fact that they've not rolled out the ability for AI to do something at a company doesn't mean it can't do it well because the threshold to get to that point I think potentially might be impossible you're talking about you're also talking about like so say we're talking about like you know Astra or you're talking about mythos you're talking about you know AI models that have been out for just a handful of months and people are still apprehensive about them so they I've heard a phrase that AI has jagged borders right the things that AI can do has not been have not been implemented in the broader society because there's a lot of people out there that that aren't even aware that AI is really a thing now right they have they hear about it on on the internet or they hear about on the news but they don't really understand what it can do this is why I make the argument that once people have an agent in their phone where they can tell their phone you know whatever it may whatever like right well you don't have them but hold on just let me make my point no jumping once you have you know the killer app is really what's missing people didn't know they wanted an iPhone until they got an iPhone right they didn't know that they didn't miss it before they exactly and they didn't know that they wanted to have a smartphone until they had a smartphone once you get like the killer app which means like it lost their phone for a week and they're like what do you understand so okay let me let me get through it but take the point just go ahead the point always well the point being once people realize what an AI is capable of once again a killer app some way so that way grandma because the way grandma can use an AI and it actually makes her day-to-day better then you'll see people say okay I want it again nobody really was interested in social media you know or at least the boomers weren't interested in social media but now grandma's all over Facebook yeah so that's the I think that that that it's more about adoption than it is about capability I think the secondary bit of context here is why are these AI companies it's real entropic really but additionally you see these whistleblowers and whatever and I think a lot of times they are coached by the companies are departing why are they like demanding that we put the brakes on AI I think with that context I think that supports my claim which is we are seeing the ceiling and they're trying to basically give a reason to sort of ride out the market rather than the market completely punishing them when they realize oh you can't just give a department an AI model and it can like all you know manage seventeen employees like there's still gonna be a lot of nuances there that will not be able to be mediated by an AI therefore anthropic has to get out ahead of it so I do agree that there's going to be a human loop for you know the foreseeable future but when it comes to why would these companies you know try to get some kind of regulatory system going they're the ones in the in the very very in the lead they're the ones that if something bad happens if one of their models does something that has a significant negative effect on on people or a customer they're liable liability is is what they're looking for coverage from the government for liability they're looking for regulatory capture so that way other companies can't start up and and usurp them essentially because you know even though open AI and anthropic are the leaders you still got grok you still got meta you've still got other companies that are out there making really good AI models so there's a lot of reasons why they would be looking for basically the government to cover their ass yeah I mean it could very well be a market box out I again I just think like you know Tim said well you know you're saying how do you know they're not gonna achieve that I'm saying that I guess what I'm trying to get as well that could explain the context my initial point was I think they might be putting the brake on themselves because they fear that hey the ceiling is in view and we don't want to get pummeled by the market here so let's like get the government to be the bad guy as I sit here listening to all this okay and every time I'm torn between I'm torn between two Homer Simpson lines one when they put him in the nuclear reactor and he said we're just gonna simulate a core three fake nuclear meltdown in the and he goes what the hell are you talking about and he manages to make the thing meltdown because I don't know what you're talking about all the AI stuff but the other thing he says is nerds okay because everything you're talking about doesn't exist for so many people in the world and the real concern is where like what is AI capable of and it gets back to every time you said no it doesn't do that yeah did it yesterday because it's getting away from people I think so the concern I have is sure these guys might be saying yeah let's let's get regulated now because we're hitting a ceiling and we're making millions and it's costing billions but also maybe it's getting away from them and And they don't want the responsibility of having to keep up with China, who we have to keep up with. Because who's going to watch the watchers? OK. And, you know, I don't care how it's affecting the movie industry and the hugging face thing, which in the movie industry used to be an audition with Weinstein. But I don't care. Went a long way for that, people. But I don't care about that because I'm worried about the future of AI. And I just watched you three and no one could figure out what it's up to, because every time you take every time you stop reading on it, it makes another leap and bound. You know, this is this is one of the one of the things that we were talking about over the weekend or the past week. It's the it's the like analogy of trying to colonize a planet near Alpha Centauri or whatever. By the time our if we took Starship from Elon and we blasted off, by the time we're halfway there, the people on that ship will watch humans pass them by. Because the technology is advancing so quickly. And. So, you know, my brother was working on a few games and he was supplementing the code with AI to work through it. Then Fable and Astra come out and all of his work was a waste of time, because with these new models, you can click a button and everything you did in three months is done in five minutes. Yeah. And my concern is or should I say my concern is that I'm not concerned with a lot of this stuff, because as a comedian and as a writer, like the stuff I write, the stuff I say, I don't think I can catch up with it yet. And maybe I'm being arrogant. Maybe I'm being foolish. But we've seen what it can do in movies. You know, we've seen what it can do in music. And every time I see them, I'm like, oh, thank Christ, I don't have to deal with any of that. But when you talk about all these different platforms and the. You're saying I can't do comedy. I cannot do comedy. I cannot do comedy. And we talked about this right now. The AI, anyone that's laughing at these AI generated videos where it's a woman doing a joke about a black person next to a black person, you know, it's AI because she doesn't get stabbed. My point. My point is that, see, see, now what I just did was I made a joke and I take responsibility for it because I stand behind it. But when you watch these AI, they say racist things. They, you know, they make fun of the blacks, the Jews, fat people, you know, every race, even the Asians. And there's no accountability for it. So let me say, not only can it not make a good joke, it doesn't have the accountability. Well, I might have you stumped here because I asked. I'm sure you do. Is this a math problem? I asked Chad. GPT for a really funny, edgy joke. And it said, my therapist told me to stop making everything into a joke. So I stopped seeing him. Don't laugh at it, Gino. Don't. This is like when IBM beat what's his face? Yeah, the chess master. And this is why I don't. I actually, I actually, I remember on this show a year ago, we were doing a bunch of racist jokes through AI. And it was insanely hilarious and really awful. There's APIs for these AIs, and the brands won't let you do those jokes, the ones. But when you run an, when you run a, if you pay for the API, it'll say anything you want. But it's not funny. And I'll tell you why I would argue. Because comedy comes from, look, I've said this. If you don't go within, you go without. And comedy, like, is this, in my opinion, comedy is the stuff you laugh at whether you want to or not. It's not the stuff you see on Kimmel, on, it's not people going like, you said it earlier, Tim. It's not classic. It's not laughter. It's not, it's why am I laughing at this joke about the Holocaust, which could not happen again with these gas prices? Why am I, why am I, why am I laughing? Why am I, and why, watch, why are you laughing? Chat GP won't do that. You understand? So while you're talking about all these letters, and when you say AI, the real problem with AI is he didn't show up sober for that press conference. And he just kept saying practice, practice. That's, that's the AI problem in Philly. Again, all this stuff you're talking about, I get, but it's not in my, it's above my pay grade to quote Murphy during COVID. I think one of the challenges is very few humans are creative. Yeah. Most comedy is stolen. Most music is stolen. Don't look up that joke I did. Yeah. So, like, to the point about, you know, AI needs to be prompt or whatever, it's a question of the very, very, very few humans who are capable of independent thought, something truly profound. And I want to stress this. It's not meant to be derisive towards most people. Most developments, most advances, it's like one person pushing something an inch. It's dropping one grain of sand and being like, whoa, that was the one that caused the avalanche. So, I guarantee you, if I asked AI for a funny joke, it'd give me one. I don't think, it depends how you define funny, Tim. Sure. But there are, there are joke books and this massive library of human experience and information in these AIs. I can have it give me a funny joke. Now, there's a question of delivery matters. Yeah, delivery matters. And there's something about the human making the punch. And again, part of the core of comedy, I would dare say, is our, and I'm not trying to sell you guys a Dianetics book. It's our shared humanity. And AI will never have that. Okay? Like, when I did that joke about the Holocaust, there's an empathy to it. And it's a, it's a dark thing that AI could never comprehend. So, I think you could, you could have a joke where you're like, oh, that's funny. But there's something about forming the thing in your head. Like, if I do like the favorite punchline to one of my jokes, there's a knock at the door and it's the pig and the cow. People will get that. They'll know that joke and they'll laugh at it. And AI can't do that either. Like, I think comedy, I've said this in my act. Like, if you've ever read The Power of the Subconscious Mind, like every organ in your body is there from the moment you're born. 99.9%. 99.9% of the time it's healthy. 99.99% it wants to stay healthy. And somehow we got here without vaccines, without, without, you know, like, without all these, without nutrition. We just kind of got here. And I think the energy, the most healing energy comes from that laughter, from that intrinsic joy. I'm going to say this. For the uncensored portion of the show, I am going to have the AI, I'm going to say, write and create. Well, I didn't say racist. Okay. But it's offensive. Okay. We're going to save it for the uncensored portion so we can get, as offensive as we can possibly get. It can't be me. And I guarantee you these are going to be funny. Now, again, it's going to be a question of delivery, but we'll see. We'll see. All right. You know, I'm not a comedian. I'm not a comedian. I'm only funny on accident sometimes. But, but see, and that's genuinely funny. I asked it to, being able to laugh at yourself, AI can't. Sorry to interrupt you, Tim. Oh my God. I asked Venice AI to write an edgy, dark humor, long form joke. And it made, it's like way going after trans people. It's like, like mercilessly. I can't say that word. You can say trans people, but you can't. Oh, and it's like trans, it's like murder. It's like, the joke is that trans people kill. Just text it to me. I mean, you're already laughing. I didn't even tell you the joke. I'm at Rodney's this Sunday night doing a trans AI joke. No, here's, here's the humor. So I went on, uncensored. I went on an uncensored joke and I said, give me a dark, dark edgy joke. And it's about a trans person killing somebody. I didn't got to tell you the joke in your house. I hope. Well, I mean, well, we'll save these jokes for after the show, but to be fair, I told it to make the joke, but I will say this. This is why, uh, you know, I don't know how Venice sponsors the show from time to time. I don't know how they feel about it, but they, they intentionally market this as it's uncensored. It will not restrict information due to politics. So if you're trying to write jokes, let her rip. I mean, there's, and there's something rewarding about like, well, I'm sure with acting, like when you make a movie, there's something rewarding. I think the real problem, I shouldn't say, I think what really registered with me when I heard, it's like, what's really affecting Hollywood is you said it before. When we were looking at the stuff you're creating storyboard jobs gone, right? Like you used to spend weeks writing a storyboard. Now it's like in minutes, right? So that, that affects people there. But again, I stand by like the genuine comedy that, that comes from like, you know, that visceral laugh, whether you want to or not, that's comedy. And I don't, I don't, I mean, I can't wait, to hear these jokes, but we, we, we did this already. And it was like, like, like we, we've had a sponsor from Venice for a long time. And so we pulled it up and we had it go off. And it was just not a fan of minorities. Who is, you said that before we started. Yeah. See, let's, let's jump to the next story and get a little political. We've got this from Fox news, Charlie Kirk statute defaced with red paint. Jesus crossed out days after one year, arc of assassination. I'm not going to be baited by this stuff. I had a, I did a, an X space the other day. Cause I was just, I'm, I'm, I'm working on this game. And so I'm sitting here working. I said, I'll do an X space while it's, while it's, while it's going. Cause I'm just supervising. But someone commented saying that they didn't agree with me. When I said, I don't want to be angry anymore. I'm not going to be mad. I'm not going to be angry. I'm not gonna be baited. And he brought up things like this, that the left will not stop until they are taught. And I said, look, by all means, I'm not saying don't fight this ideology. Don't arrest these people. I'm not saying ignore them. I'm saying I'm not going to get angry. I'm going to be like, yes, this is a problem. And I'm going to stay calm about it because I think it's a waste of energy to elevate your blood pressure and get all freaked out and pissed off that they're trying to bait you. The goal of this, there is no other purpose than to make you hate. Okay. I'm not, I, you know, I look at it like I understand why they did it. They want conservatives to hate. They want division. They want chaos. And I think one of the issues is for many of these leftists without the conflict, they can't have their, their, their revolution. They need something to fight against. Well, we certainly should arrest these people for these things. We certainly should prevent it and we should make fun of them. But when they trick you into going out and being the enemy that they can then use their propaganda tool to promote communism. Let me put it this way. It's a boxing match. And they want you, they want you to be angry so you're not focused. You can, you can think that they're a bad person and they're trying to, they're trying to taunt you and still keep your cool and win that boxing match. That's what I'm saying. So you think that this is accelerationism then? No, I, I don't think these people are that thought out. Like I don't think they're that they're planning it. I'm saying the goal of this defacing of a Charlie Kirk is the only outcome is to piss off people who like Charlie. And what will that do? It will create a conflict. Well, the smarter, the more powerful watching that happen. No, they can exploit that and say white supremacists are doing this, that or otherwise rally people and try and use that. They want to start a fire. Yeah. Don't let them start a fire. Put the fire out. I agree with everything you say up until the winning part. Like we have to ignore them. I mean, we have to ignore them because unlike the right, who does everything out in the open, you know, Charlie Kirk's the perfect example. He went out to these places. He used his words to debate them. And what did he get? He gets people in Antifa protesting. He gets people defacing his statue in the middle of the night. So we can ignore them and we have to, but we're not going to, if you define winning as them saying, Oh my God, they're ignoring us. We should stop. We're not going to win because they're going to keep doing this because I'm sorry. And I want to be wrong, but I'm not. The left is the party of hatred and violence. Like the fact that, and I would argue every, every small win, even in New York where we have frigging mom, Donald, every, every small win for the DSA is, is a large, is a national win for the Republicans. I think because people see this, I think Republicans just aren't good enough at this. The Republicans right now, they've, they've, they can't withstand the political attacks on the left, the procedural political and cultural attacks. They, they are offering up nothing. They, uh, we got new war. We got a bad economy. Trump saying the economy is good. It's it's, and they're not selling us any now. Now, JD Vance did a really great job at that midterm RNC. Trump came out and was entertained. And he rallied people as a morale boost. JD Vance sold it with tangibles that I appreciate, but that's not enough right now. I think it is good. We'll see. And I, I certainly think it was important that they did it, but the Democrats got mom, not his mom, not his approval ratings through the roof. New York loves him. Yeah. Look, that's what they learned. And the DSA knows how to play the manipulation game and the Republicans won't do it. But New York's not a good measure of it. Like in this election, when I went to vote, I was voting for Curtis, Sliwa. This is how broken New York is. And everyone was saying to me, you can't vote for Sliwa. He's not going to win. A vote for Sliwa is a vote for mom, Donnie. And then they proceeded to tell me for the independent, who was Andrew Cuomo, the man that was in charge. They told me to vote for not just a Democrat, a Democrat who during, you know, the lockdowns was putting elderly people into homes. And a lot of people thought that killed him. I was one of them. Do you understand? So it's, it's widely reported that he killed about 15,000 people. Yeah. And, and so did Whitmer. And so, and so did Newsom, all these people. But my point is those high poll numbers in New York, tell me nothing. And I love watching it burn. I love watching rich people say, why is he showing my pied to tear? And why is he doing this? Because they're coming for you. He hates you. Yeah. Yeah. He hates you. They're coming for you. And I think there was just a clip of, uh, Scott, who was it? Scott, the guy that I'm black. Presler. No, the guy that is always on CNN, just defaced. Scott Jennings. Yeah. Scott Jennings. I don't know why I said Collins. Scott Jennings, in some ways, woman's like she's trying to denounce el saeed in michigan and she's like no no i was against uh all this stuff and he's like and that's why you're not in the race anymore the democrats are getting themselves eaten up by the dsa absolutely that's and i love watching it it's well i mean it it is funny to watch but at the same time like we need a sane party insane funny or is it ai g is it ai funny i need to know uh it's kind of a morbid kind of funny i'm not sure so maybe it's the yeah we had uh we had we had the ai telling dead baby jokes those are classics from the 90s yeah we know all those just all the old school humor the the the the issue is um again if like if a human was born and left in the middle of the woods it'd have no jokes everything that we have humor is all cultural so but anyway i don't want to get reignite all that i do i'm kidding um i've lost but i was winning against the left because they put up their charismatic leaders who then decry any reaction from the right while they use their shadow groups like antifa to instigate fights do things like this defame and deface charlie kirk so the right gets angry because the right is not fighting a war the right is is minding their own business and the left is calculating strategies to manipulate so the right reacts to this exactly as you'd expect angry and they're going to go out and they're going to be like blah blah blah and say these things the left is going to selectively edit manipulate those videos and say look what the right thinks of you and what happens is when charlie says something like dei is bad for this reason they will cut the chunk the middle out of his quote then show it and say the right doesn't know what dei is then show him saying and that's why i have concerns about pilots and they'll say oh and look he's he's racist as well and that's that leads me back to the ai stuff so i'm going to go back to the ai stuff and i'm going to go back to the ai stuff which will make it even worse because the left doesn't and i know this is going to sound like a generalization and please correct me to me the left doesn't seem to look anything up i was having a debate with someone months ago and they're like yeah well donald trump raped a 14 year old and i'm like what so i immediately googled it and then you see the article where in a court case uh jeffrey i almost said jeffrey dunn epstein brings this 14 year old and she's like and of course it's a you know they don't put this factoid to the last paragraph she's like met donald trump uh he was nothing but nice to me you know and nothing happened you know and the left will never the left never seems to want to check and ai will make it even easier to not the thing is if they check it like they even if they did check it they would still use it as a vector of attack the truth doesn't matter by the way let me tell you something about ai like i don't trust a like uh the alexa now like i don't trust that half the time because i was asking it something about uh what kirk cousins say in an interview uh when he was asked about getting the vaccine for football and i kept saying what did he say and she just kept giving me vague answers okay and then finally i said did kirk cousins say when asked about getting the vaccine and not getting it if i die i die in an interview 10 questions with kirk menefee and she goes yes he did i'm like why and i said alexa why didn't you tell me that when i asked you the first three times she's like you didn't use the right keyword search i gave you seven words kirk cousins sorry cousins kirk cousins if i die again but but again i mean you're talking about how long ago was that last week so you're using uh like alexa's not an ai alexa does have ai it's it's it's you guys are talking about but it's very yeah no you're what you're basically saying is that i used a voice to text to convert a query to put it into google and google censored it we know yeah yeah agreed okay so whatever i said you clarified it but yeah it definitely isn't given it's hiding the information uh google yeah they censor a lot yeah okay there's there's questions i have right about the ai portion okay yeah no i think um that the for a while i was complaining about uh claude particularly claude claude's so politically correct but a lot of this is starting to disappear oh good with the latest models it's just it's becoming very much i don't know why or what the reason is but it's becoming very much straightforward and and yeah that's all i can truly say wasn't crock this was like a year didn't they have to what what were we just talking about we got we got to alexa we were talking about the left fighting back uh and oh and then i said and the left gets lazy and i said with ai they'll be even less likely to check things because they don't check oh right right right right right yeah i was like we're back on ai again yeah sorry about that and not iverson well but the the point that i was making is like or at least the point that i made before that is it doesn't matter what the the the substance of any attacks from the left are if they have a narrative they're gonna push it like the you know trump's a pedophile trump raped a kid blah blah it's all it doesn't matter that it's true right the whole like the association with with epstein ended 20 years ago you know like 15 years before epstein died and yet the people that put up with it and they're like oh my god they're gonna put up with it and they're gonna push the whole oh you know the epstein class trump and the epsteins it doesn't matter that trump was the guy that turned him into the fbi and and kicked him out of mar-a-lago the truth of the substance of it doesn't matter it's just they have a tacit association and they can push this and they expect you to to reel in horror and to not not you know feel like you're you're you have some way you should defend yourself in some way it's the same thing as when they call people racist or call you racist or call people racist or call you racist or call you racist or call you racist or what the the substance behind the attack is it's just a matter of does it scare this person does it put them on their back feet and does it give me an advantage in the argument yeah and they do that that guy was debating with that politician and i simply asked him like why should i trust you when no politicians go to jail and he's like well donald trump's the most corrupt person ever and i said i'm gonna stop you right there like i could see if you at least said since biden i could see if you said along with biden you know and he's like well why didn't trump why did he take him so long to release the epstein files and i simply said why didn't biden release him for four years and he's like well trump i'm like just just i'm so i just i'm this this what's the point of of that conversation you know what i mean like i say to these people when did you first learn about epstein oh a year ago oh man like we've been talking about that for a decade yeah you know so you you you come in the room you come to our party we've been here for 10 years and you walk in the front door screaming angry about what's currently going on and we're like guy guy you are 10 years behind where we're at on this one i'm not saying don't be mad about it i'm just saying your rage is not i i don't believe it for a second because you don't even know what you're talking about yep and this is like watching these man on the street videos watching liberal instagram this is why i'm saying like i i'm not gonna bother with getting mad because it's like yelling at a dog because dog keeps crapping on the floor okay you know the dog's gonna keep doing it put the dog outside and go into these liberals and expecting them to bother looking into these things now of course i'm gonna be wrong they'll go to conservatives and do these man on the street interviews where yeah you're not i'm not gonna expect a security guard who's like a guy who's a mall security guard who's walking around with his family to be able to answer anything about the constitution but he listens to you know various podcasts so he's right leaning for a variety of on a variety of issues he's not gonna know but that guy's not making content about it then you get these liberals who go around saying did you know charlotte kirk said this thing and you're like yeah that's not like you're you're that's that's that's factual but not truthful to quote michael malice that's not literally the idea he was conveying you know you're misquoting him and they're like we don't care because winning politically is all they care about in the first place yeah the the like i said earlier the the vector of attack is all that matters it's some way to set people on the back on their back foot and and capitalize on you know people's reactions to what they're saying not the substance of what you're saying there's an echo chamber fact to it like they don't know like they expect you when you bring up the epstein and trump to be like you said it perfectly they expect you to reel and go oh my god i didn't know when instead you say actually that's not true what and they like and then but if you say oh that's not true then they just jump to you're defending you're a liar you're you're a fascist so you're making things up you're defending them so you approve of it so you're the same thing you're a pedophile and how do you think and this is why i circled back how's it going to go when ai does more and more stuff well here's here's here's the issue do you think it will ever be possible to correct the these leftists i think no i think like this is the phrase i would say the word parent is a verb and if they didn't teach you to think for yourself you know also what so what how do we how do we so what do we do as a society when you realize you know 70 70 what 75 million people voted for kamala harris you make the oh election too big to rig and don't let her win no no that's not what i'm talking about i'm saying that half the country lives in a false reality yeah and is animated by it to the point of calling for murder no no hold on i'll clarify not literally every single liberal is going on calling for murder but when you've got a guy on instagram calling for murder and he gets it goes viral he gets millions of views because the sentiment is shared how do you function as a society what do you do to deal with the fact that you've got a political wing of your country that wants murder and death and they don't care if what they're saying is true you don't i i don't want to say ignore them but there's nothing i can do about these people like this is the world we live in manipulate them what's that should we manipulate them i say we just let them i think 99 of them and it's just a big number because i think it's most of them they're screaming into their instagram these people don't know how to live well because you only need one person to kill charlie kirk sure so do we just say well you know periodically they will kill you know our friends our community leaders and stuff but you know what are you gonna do about it well yeah nothing because whoever pulled that trigger you can't you can't stop someone if someone wants to kill you they're going to but so like these people on instagram that are set they're going on comedy stages and saying kill people we should just let them do that yeah did any of us kill someone listening to this idiot like if that's what he's saying and he's getting paid for it that's free speech you know so like the left should be allowed to advocate for killing conservatives when you say advocate for killing going on stage at a comedy club and telling the audience is it a joke or is it a is it a rally it's a it's well it's claptor it's not really it's not comedy yeah he should be allowed to but i mean it's it's the people if people are dumb enough to watch him that's on them so so what kind of so what happens to your society then when you've got a third of your population uh agreeing with and advocating for this going on stage at an increasing rate producing more content advocating for killing people uh that's an easy one this if that's going on that's fine but the people that are what what happens after that i i would simply say this again because what's going so so i'm looking at the people pulling the trigger now i could say whatever i want you know but you're saying that when the left goes out and advocates for killing they don't actually do any violence no it's the people that listen to them if anyone listens to them and actually does that like if you came here and started advocating for killing i would look as an animal and we're not friends and i don't want to associate with them but if you can advocate for killing and people are going to gather around you okay good what do you what do you do with like 10 000 people listen to a comedian go on stage and he says you know he wants to go kill people and then it gets like 10 million views on instagram and then 10 000 people say let's go and they go out and do it if first of all 10 000 people are not going to go out and kill because that's a that's a guy and a hitler situation i don't think i think you're being disingenuous if you think 10 000 people are going to do that so uh i mean how many people did we see riot in 2020 it was what like three million nationwide oh yeah and uh 30 plus people were killed yeah uh aaron downson was shot twice in the chest for no reason so yeah they killed people uh but we should just let them keep doing the rallies and keep advocating well we shouldn't have been allowing those well it's funny those protests went away when we shut down usaid so this is just part of you know the government corruption of it that led to that and of course this was during the summer of love when it was illegal to be outside at thanksgiving with your family but it was legal to do that there's so many ways i think two things first of all thanksgiving is in the fall not the summer um second of all um that's the answer to tim's question is rico charges and round them up and put them in jail no no but this is the point people committing the american liberal tradition cannot protect itself from the left we lose thank you and have a nice day the argument is we cannot suppress the free speech of leftists who go on to these people they have killed and they will kill again but we should let them keep advocating for it okay yeah then your end result will be your destruction and demise because american classical liberalism cannot defend itself from authoritarianism so you're saying if we let these you're saying eventually the left will kill everyone i'm not understanding what you're saying do you know how many bolsheviks uh there were at the at the beginning of 1917 i'm gonna say no twenty four thousand okay do you know how many people lived in russia in 1917 no and seven thousand people lived in russia in 1917 no and seven thousand people lived in russia in million. Okay. And from that 24,000 Bolsheviks, they killed the Tsar and his children. First, they rallied throughout that one year and increased to 200 to 300,000. And in a nation of 175 million, it took only a single year to go from 24 to 200, let's say 300 and be on the high end, and then executed the Tsar, his children in cold blood, and took the country over, bringing about 70 years of mass death. And we can then talk about communist China. It takes a very small amount of people to be able to go out and rally. Let me put it like this. New York City and all of its five boroughs has an estimated 30,000 police officers. About 10,000 are support. It might be like 38,000. And that's five boroughs. There's 2.5 million people, maybe less now because after COVID they moved up. So Manhattan's got around 2 million people. So if 10% of Manhattan, it's a big number, decided to rampage around, smash things. There's no police who could stop them. That's 200,000. But let's be real. You don't even need 200,000 because that 30K is throughout the five boroughs. So if you had 1% of Manhattan, 1% decided to go out and riot, 20,000 people, no one could stop them. Literally no one. Okay. So you don't think Trump could send in people like he did in LA, like he did in, I think, Chicago? Well, what happened in the LA riots? They surrounded it and let the riots burn out. Okay. The point I'm making is if your society permits calls for assassination, your society will produce assassinations. And it's funny because Charlie Kirk predicted all of this and then they killed him. My point is I'm not suggesting I have a good answer. I don't like the idea of telling comedians they can't tell jokes, but I will go so far as to say, it should be criminal. Let's do this. We're going to jump to another segment. So I'll wrap up this segment by saying it should be criminal to advocate for murder, period. Let me pull up this Instagram for you. I've got two Instagram for you. The problem with Instagram is you can't. So I'll just, I'll refresh it and then we'll play this clip. Okay. So here we go. We got this. I got to unmute it too. We love Instagram, don't we? Can you believe there's billionaires? Isn't that crazy? I don't think we even understand how much a billion dollars. Isn't that crazy? I don't think we even understand how much a billion dollars is. A hundred times a million is a hundred million dollars. Ten times that is a billion. Why don't we all kill them? Why aren't we killing them and living better lives? Isn't that weird? We just let them live. You're like struggling and there's a guy out there and he's like, I have 10 billion dollars. It's like, why don't we kill him? Why do you don't need 10 billion dollars? Give me your fucking money, you asshole. I don't even have. I have to tip and you have 10 billion dollars? I have credit card debt. Fuck you. And I feel like a lot of you guys feel the same way and we can find a billionaire and kill them. I think it should be kind of like a, like a, like if you get over, like you should be able to make a hundred million dollars. That's what you do. And if you get over, you just get killed. So it's like kind of a dangerous thing. And God's like, I almost made 99 million dollars this year. It's like, dude, you better be careful. They're going to stone you. There's another one. Let's play, uh, let's play this one. And, uh, the first one's got a lot of views. This one doesn't have as many, but, uh, if you take all of the murder that happens in this country and just gear it towards billionaires, it'll only take two weeks to kill all of them. It actually takes about a day. Yes. That might not be a punchline, but that's not a lot of time, right? What? Two weeks? Although I'm not advocating for violence. I'm not advocating for violence. I'm not advocating for more violence. I'm advocating for the exact same amount of violence we already have and just redirecting the target. That's it. So this is, this is claptor. Yeah. And he's laughing at his own joke. The second guy, and he's got wacky hair. It's not a joke. Yeah. It's not a joke to go up on stage and say, Hey, you know, there's a problem. Here's a solution. Jokes. I made this reference earlier. There's a guy who made a joke where he said he's a, he's pro-choice except in the instance of rape because you could be removing superhumans. And he's like, hear me out. The beauty of the mother with the raw ambition of the father. I think it's Mark Norman who did that. His joke is that calling rape raw ambition is obviously an absurdity. And so we find humor in it. Going on stage and telling people what they already agree with, that they want to murder billionaires. An example being Luigi Mangione is celebrated by many of these people in New York. Going up there and saying, Hey, you know, the thing you already want to do, do it. And then everyone laughs and claps. These aren't jokes. A society that says, this is what we enjoy and want more of is a society that goes around and kills people. And, uh, I think, I think this should, this should be a criminal charge. I think he should be criminally charged for advocating for impersonating a comedian. He should be criminally charged. Okay. This first guy should be charged because he's advocating people commit a crime. He's on stage saying you should go commit a crime. And, uh, he's telling people to go commit a crime. No, he's making a joke. That's not funny. And he's using the typical cadence of it. So people are laughing. This is the problem with, it's not a joke. No, it's, it's not a joke. So, okay. But he's not serious. He's doing. No, I think he is. I don't. I think he's doing what so many people in comedy do. They have the cadence. They have the mannerism. They internet. Why don't we just kill them? They're billionaires. You don't want to get stoned. And people in the crowd are so acclimated. Well, we paid money. We should laugh. This guy stinks. Okay. And he's too, no one is going to a comedy club to get incited. Has anyone gone out and killed a wealthy person in recent history? That was at a comedy club and said, that's where I got the idea. No, that has nothing to do with what I asked. No, but that's what I said. But no one at a comedy club is doing this. What does that have to do with comedy clubs? Because like, if this guy's doing an Instagram post that's seen by millions of people, right. But if this, but it's at a comedy show so what so did did is so what so everything it's not like he's starting he's not charlie kirk he's not uh saeed he's not uh piker he's a he's a hack at a comedy club believe me i'm an expert on that he's a hack at a comedy club doing a stupid bit and if and no one at the club is going to get incited to violence i i gotta i gotta stop you again no one cares about a comedy club this is a comedian on a social media post against a brick wall right speaking to hundreds of thousands and millions of people who are not at comedy clubs right but they know he's a comedian so what so i don't think anyone anyone that watch i would argue and this is me just going from my 57 years maybe i'm crazy i can't imagine anyone watching this saying yeah i'd kill them that was raised right or that we can stop and why did louis jimine jone kill brian thompson because he was angry and do you think that there are people are because no one taught him not to kill and do you think there are lots of people on instagram watching videos that are also angry and equally willing to kill i'm sure there are some and when they hear a man go up on stage and say go kill them right now go do it so my argument simply is anyone that watches this and says i'm gonna go kill them they're not right in the head and that starts somewhere else and i would i would start where i always start with these let's go to lindsey clancy it's these pharmaceutical things that muddy up the waters do you think that they're crazy people out there that might kill but don't have the direction as to what to do and this might motivate them towards a certain direction i doubt it but i can't say for certain like the dude who said this guy when he was a kid he said look i've got a normal amount of violence already have it redirected in that direction this guy look at him that's the perfect don't even touch it look he's look i've got funny hair i'll wear a t-shirt look at my tattoo he said nothing funny and he's laughing at his own jokes so anyone that listens to him is stupid enough questions he told people to take the violence that already exists and direct it towards billionaires so you really think this is a problem can you it is a problem you think it's a problem that comedians are saying things and people are acting on it well the first thing i'll say is it's not comedy to go on stage and say hey go kill people those aren't jokes no now i understand people make the argument that if they laugh at it jokes can take many forms but i think this is a rally people aren't showing up to hear a guy um you know tell a story about his life that is relatable and funny or absurd or to even talk politics like you can do comedy where you say trump's fat with tiny hands and everyone laughs because you're like it's we like to make fun of the guy you can make fun of people it's popular to go up on stage and say you know what why don't the first guy says make your life a little bit better and then you're like you know what why don't the first guy says make your life a little bit better and then you're kill that person there's no joke there he's telling them what they've already posted online they want to do so it's a rally now when you have a society that tells people it is good funny legal allowed to advocate for murder you get murder and you're tying this into these two guys at a comedy club and and by the way these are two guys i'm sure guys went up before and after them as well like i'm not going to argue with you if you think that because i can't prove it i can't disprove it why did michael reinhold kill aaron danielson why did who why did michael reinhold kill aaron danielson i don't know those two yeah michael reinhold had a communist he had a blm tattoo walked up to a trump supporter he had never seen before and put two in his chest why would he do that because he hated him but why would he hate him what what was he hearing what was telling him to hate somebody what are you saying a comedian told him that because this will be my bro are you joking right now no i'm saying he heard things from somewhere sure that incited him yes and it got to the point where he decided he would he would kill somebody i don't know if there's a there's a way to win or lose this but my point is everyone pulling the trigger uh-huh it got there somehow whether it was poor parenting whether it was meds but like like if you have kids raise them every day not to kill other people if everyone raises their kids and i know this is simplistic but this is the only and you can call me an idiot or you know naive but the only way it's like saying the only way rapists don't rape what's that it's like saying tell rapists don't rape yeah i i know they do and they're gonna then put once they do put them in jail stop letting people out of jail like we do in so many places like they did that during covid they they're like oh we have to let people out of jail start making people hold people accountable you think in new york they will reduce anything in a heartbeat from a felony to a misdemeanor do you hear how they're cheering and clapping for killing people at a comedy show do you think that if someone went out and killed a billionaire these people would clap or be sad oh they they might clap might they will and then you know what they'll do they watch the comedy they'll start pointing at their neck and laughing at you sure and and then they'll go on their ass they're idiots they do it more what's that and they'll go online they'll say do it more okay and who will do it more more people who are yeah but but again you're looking at i could tell people to kill people and if they do it that's not on me it is no it's not it is no it's not yeah it is this will be the rest of the show no uh if you tell someone to kill someone you will be criminally charged for that what if you tell someone to go kill another person if i pay them no no so if i tell incitements to violence is a crime it is it is so the limits of the first amendment are creating a clear and imminent threat if you tell a person you go kill someone you will be charged for that okay that actually is a codified crime so why aren't we putting people in jail for that why aren't we putting rapists and why are we letting people out of jail why is mom donnie advocating for shutting down alcatraz for uh not alcatraz sorry the rock no no the rock is alcatraz i'm thinking of rikers rikers right yeah alcatraz they want to i'm agreeing with you on this i look i i first of all i don't care i don't care who says what confused my prison islands yeah maybe that's a good i do care who says what well and this is where we disagree because i firmly hold the person that pulls the trigger that that you know and that means that means that means that we need something else in the case of rape let me give you let me let me give you another example what if someone says uh your address is one tooth is a 732 evergreen terrace and then in front of a crowd of people and then a guy says i wish someone would just go kill these these these boomer comedians right and then uh another guy says hey there's one and his address is uh 740 uh 732 evergreen terrace yeah uh you're like that's totally fine yeah you think that's totally fun yeah and then when someone kill me uh that's not fine someone killed charlie yeah that's not fine so so when someone finds your house that they otherwise would not have right and they said i was told to do it yeah okay and and you think you think a guy that goes i was told to do it so i did it that's not the problem the problem is the guy that says i don't like you they're both a problem what's that they're both a problem the problem is the killer it's not the person like you you have we have free will it's amazing and no one is making you do it man gioni's another one people like oh he's a hero he's a hero he's a hero he's a hero he's a murderer he's a murderer this is why the right loses everything sure because what happens is because we were raised right and we can't stop someone from doing something wrong because the right is afraid of power the right is afraid to use power the left is not so the right will say something like i don't want the government telling people they can't advocate for things it's the trigger man who's the problem yeah and what's the result of that young conservatives say i won't speak up because i'm i'll be the next charlie and i don't want to die i disagree and the reason why the problem is the reason why the left is doing the next thing is because they want as as destiny stated on his show prominent liberal you know destiny you know destiny is the liberal guy prominent liberal commentator millions of followers he said conservatives need to fear being murdered so they stop so they go to their republican politicians and they tell them to stop and you are saying yes it is good the left terrorizes i don't know into hiding look i'll believe you but i don't know like i don't know there's destiny is like but i don't know of one conservative that's afraid of being killed by these people is that a joke no do you have any idea what it's been like since charlie was murdered no the millions of dollars spending because the death threats we get every day how many conversations i've had to have with the fbi no yeah it's bad i believe you it's very bad okay and the intention is to make sure we cannot stop them because when they post a picture of your child and your address you're like i have a choice to make they killed charlie they've sent me a threat saying i'm next and that now they know where i live we had someone drive by our property in december open fire on the property so when you say let the left go on stage and say kill these people they will and the intention is terror it is terrorism everything you're saying is terrible tim but it's the people pulling the trigger we could have this conversation for hours like you can't take away someone's right to speak the person who is creating the terror is not the person pulling the trigger the trigger man happened and it's happened in the past the terrorism comes from a prominent left-wing personality who advocates for your death and your family's death that's the terror then you see 10 000 comments saying yes yes kill him and then what you have to do is you have to spend a million bucks on security and relocate from your property and hire armed guys to walk around and kill people because you get swatted 20 times okay so what is your answer because this is something your answer is a guy goes on stage and says kill people he gets he gets arrested you take this guy off stage this hack comedian who's not funny and no one's listening to him uh on this stage and you're equating this guy to the terrible thing now let's just pause real quick when you said no one listens to him he's got a hundred thousand likes on his post yeah and try again and start over watch this who is he what's his name ben i don't know exactly does that like because in my on social media doesn't translate into knowing who they are. People will do doom scroll they'll be like oh that's cute and they'll hit it and they'll keep going there are people that you know like when you brought up that the uh the rape thing i'm like oh that's a that's a mark norman joke because he's funny and i know he is and you know he's he's the guy that can say something like that and you know he's not in he's not encouraging that act don't you feel like if there are enough p like if you if you sit there and you doom scroll when there are people that say these kind of things your your feed will end up getting filled with similar types of content yeah don't you do you think that those people have a responsibility or should be held accountable for for making this kind of uh these kind of comments because again if you're on social media you're going to be inundated with that stuff if you're if you're liking leftist comments like that and things that are look again i can't argue with you but i'm saying i this is how i was raised and this is how i look at things like you can say terrible things you can put terrible things in the comments but the people acting on it are the problem and and the thing tim's telling me about terrible and if they can't find that guy that's also terrible there are people that it's their job to find these people making these threats yeah and and the point is there's one on stage but that's not in my opinion that's not a threat that's a hack comedian so when a guy goes on stage and tells the audience to kill someone it's not how often does what's the difference what's the difference between like a guy staying on a street corner saying go kill them now and a guy go on stage and going you should kill him now haha yeah there's really the only difference is i don't see people listening to either one like i don't well i mean but just the fact that that people have gone out and committed acts of political violence that that kind of is here's what we can agree on violence is wrong but we're disagreeing on where we're drawing the line and again i draw the line at the person committing the act you are trying to draw i'm just i'm just oh no but i'm saying like am i wrong again these guys as a comedian i look at them like they're nothing they're like we don't know their names and the kid with the hair laughing at his own jokes who probably will have a sitcom before me so is the con is the the context of them being a comedian like that's that that should be acceptable but then if you're someone that's that's say at a political rally saying hey these people are bad we need to go after them we need to kill them kill them yeah i mean if someone's saying that at a political rally that's completely different so the context so the context we'd agree okay well that's what i'm asking i don't agree at all really because that's not a comedy show those aren't jokes it's claptor i agree with that so i don't there's no distinction well no i think claptor makes it well you said you say that again but again it's got a hundred thousand likes that's the point again but like just hitting the like on instagram is a meaningless action in a lot of situations and i i just feel like this is not actually addressing the point that i'm making so i'm just saying that's the point i'm saying that's the point i'm making what the point i'm making there are a lot of people that agree with it that they've posted online and agree with it they dress up like luigi they do movie tours when they're asked who's their favorite luigi they say luigi mangione they advocate for murdering people and then people get murdered by the person pulling the trigger stabbing or whatever and this this is my only answer it's i will always put it on the person committing the act right and and i think the issue is i don't i i would assume you don't have enough experience in the political space to know like we spend over a million dollars plus maybe more every year because of this because of because of the people on stage saying go kill them not because of an individual who has like actually robbed me with a knife it's that the moment someone makes a threat on stage we immediately have to spend more of our resources instead of doing shows having debates putting on events for our fans i have to hire three more guys with guns and what i'm saying is these are the only two comedians and i say that with quotes that i've ever seen do it again and again and again and again and bit on killing people yeah well there's probably like 50 videos that i could have pulled up but i thought two was enough for the show right sure so i'm saying they're not here's a clip they're not the crime statistics not not exactly like i need you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature the issue is right now they don't feel like there's any fear like i don't know i don't know it's like memes it's just memes to everybody i guess i don't know bro i don't know i don't care i'm playing beer games this was five days after charlie was murdered who are they bro who is destiny yeah that's one of the biggest liberal streamers in the world well i'm still on the hassan piker thing i don't know who yeah he's he he and his son don't get along but hassan's bigger than he is i recently debated destiny because i'm i want to turn the volume down but yeah there's him going to his followers saying conservatives must fear dying so how am i supposed to do this job and advocate for what this country should stand for if they will kill me or threaten my family and i can't afford it see that's okay there's only one thing to be said the right deserves to lose they deserve to lose i never said they did unwilling to use power to stop the threats of violence and murder against them they will either and not all of them but if your position is the left should be allowed to go on their shows and advocate for murder the right will lose that's it the left has no problem killing people advocating for killing lying defaming destroying memorials to charlie kirk going around and making sure that people hate charlie so much they would actually kill him without even knowing what he stood for and i'm not saying don't let a liberal go out and lie about charlie kirk i'm saying the line is when they go on stage and laugh and say go kill those people i'm like yeah that's elite like those people they should be arrested for that see i see that you're angry about this and i like if that's what you think the answer is letting them win how is it letting them win you're saying they're winning because we're not doing anything to stop them from speaking violently they've built a culture and economy around telling people to murder and they're murdering and they've been murdering for years because there's an economy around it and we take that economy away we ban them for doing it and we arrest them when they incite people well and then we say you cannot succeed in our country if you think if you i think you can go and advocate on stage for killing people if you want to ban a streamer that i never heard of and i know he's huge in liberal circus and two hack comedians i have no problem with that you know because we're not talking about this and i don't know how many times i can say it these are just a couple of examples i pulled up for the context on the show sure so when you keep then playing the straw man of it's just two people like you're not actually arguing you're not actually arguing you're not arguing anything no i'm not arguing anything because i've never heard of these people and again i'm saying i i'm i'm a broken record like i will blame the people pulling the trigger that's it i think the reason i don't know where else to draw the line tim on the people advocating for killing but that's your free like you don't have free speech to advocate for killing okay well then okay then stop them that's what i said so we agree i i guess so yeah when the guy says kill someone you say off the stage you're under you know it's a that's a criminal effect are you saying these two hack comedians plus more sure the other ones i'm all of them never heard of every single one the point is when you have people that are making again that's why i brought up you know when you're going through your feed it's not just about these two guys it's about people that have essentially made the basically they're making the argument that it's acceptable to kill people that you that you'll be celebrated for it you will be rewarded on social media with more followers for it you will be put on prayer candles for it and women want to sleep with you you hear people saying things like eat the rich that guy's talking about why are there billionaires we should just kill them like the idea that if you're a successful person someone like jeff bezos or who's who said a hundred million yeah he he did um but if you're if you're wealthy enough to fall in the crosshairs that it's acceptable to kill you this is the whole mindset that luigi mangione had and there are a lot of people that agree with that and now grant there hasn't been a string of of murders of wealthy people but the more you hear people talk like this the more that it's going to become acceptable in the minds of of of a certain segment of the population and so at what point do we say all right look we need to have government step in and say this kind of behavior this kind of rhetoric actually is leading to more this is leading to violence or could lead to violence it's it's it's it's a simple point if a guy on stage is being clapped they're clapping for him when he says kill people there's going to be some guy who says they will clap for me if i do it too and then he goes and does it and they clap for him and then what happens another person says i want to be famous i want people to clap for me and they do it too it's like why do we have social media trends why did people pour ice buckets on themselves because everybody was doing it and getting cheered for as they did likes they were getting likes indeed and so when a guy goes on stage and says kill people and gets likes what's going to happen another guy's going to go on stage and say kill people and get likes and then you're going to get a bunch of people sitting crowds laughing being like why isn't anyone doing it and then they will do it and then you get you go to jail for and then you get trigger luigi mangione who does it yeah and they raise money for how much is he has he has he raised like a million bucks gotta be over a million wow so they're cheering for it they're advocating for it and they're giving money to it yet maybe we stop these people but it's the people giving money that are the idiots like this is capitalism if you're telling me i can make money saying it now i wouldn't do it because i have morals but capitalism it is about furthering the business about making money so of course these idiots are going to do it but the bigger idiots are the ones that are like yeah who raised these people that were just that were that were just glazing over saying well people are going to kill them but these guys that are saying kill people for clicks they're the problem yeah i don't know that it's i don't know it's a question of the way the people were raised i mean that guy's a full-on adult what's that that guy's a full-on adult he knows what he's doing and well the the point is these arguments aren't being made by just teenagers who don't understand what a billion dollars is or what it takes to become so so so made a great point about radio rwanda the rwandan genocide was largely driven by a society that there's a there's a there was a uh a tv show that that played this i can't remember what it was but they were talking about how on the radio who was it it was the uh who were the the what was the name of the tribe that got massacred tootsies tootsies tootsies tootsies i think on the radio they would say things like you know how many you know tootsies to take screw in a light bulb none you got to shoot them dead and then do it yourself they would say things like that then one day everyone outside just killed them killed them all because it was the joke it was your culture you were supposed to and what they did was every day they went out and said shouldn't we hate these people people started to hate them well it's even closer because what they were doing was they would have who to officials die for whatever reason war whatever they would die and they would go on the radio and say the tootsies had these people killed they assassinated them etc so that's kind of what he's doing here is where he's saying actually the violence is pointed towards the left and that's why we should respond well that's what they do they say billionaires shouldn't exist because they're evil they fundamentally don't understand the system how how how money is made or you don't make a hundred million dollars in a year your net worth can no no one literally nobody nobody does that that's not how it works that nobody there's very few people who make i think it's something like a few thousand people in the country make more than a million dollars in cash per year and uh the average millionaire i like to talk about makes 160 000 per year salary most of the wealth we see is generated because they held an asset that accrued in value for some reason like a stock or otherwise we have a culture right now of people who are clapping and cheering for murdering people if we don't say there's a line people will die and guess what they have already from the lesser knowns like a guy walking down the street like aaron danielson to the better knowns like charlie kirk who was simply talking but they had routinely said to kill him and then someone decided to do it so a guy who goes on social media and says kill people to a million people you don't even need one percent of them to react and then they go and do it i think we should hold those people responsible well i'm telling you if you're i said this at the beginning if you're going to talk about social media yeah fine shut it down but again i'm telling you it's the so you're saying that social media overall is the problem more than the things that people should know you guys are saying all these things are the problem i'm saying the problem is the guy pulling the trigger okay that's what i'm always going to say but again you know my thoughts on social media it's it's what if it's like 10 guys pulling triggers is it 10 guys pulling trigger like when antifa roamed around uh portland with rifles stopping traffic and threatened that wasn't from social media well what about when antifa literally attacked a nice facility and shot a bunch of rounds up and i hate antifa you know where are they where are they getting their motivation from where do they learn the things they learn i think from the bottom of my heart i think it's the bottom of my heart i think from the mainstream media i think from liberal news that's not where antifa is getting their information they're getting it if you ask me that's where i think they are right like trump the trump administration just shut down this italian network that was providing back like a like i don't know what the right way to describe it is but it's not black market but you know uh cloud services and servers for for uh dark communications essentially and uh two things so you're a 15 year old kid and you grew up in the suburbs of you know insert urban area how does that person turn into a guy who shows it to an ice facility with a rifle and shoots a cop well i would say the liberal media i would say the the indoctrination of schools right now they're allowing well they want to take out the 9-11 do you realize they want to make 9-11 one paragraph in the books in the school books so what is being told to a kid that makes them think they need to end a life again and now this is where i get back into the parent thing like who raised these kids that they can public school system yeah well there you go so like what do you think could be said to a 15 year old that would turn them from a kid who plays video games into a kid who gets a rifle goes to an ice facility and shoots a cop we need to put more kids in jail for what they do we need to be like how does that happen how does like a kid who's playing basketball doesn't one day just go oh i gotta go commit a crime like information is presented to them right yes and who's it filtered through so instagram uh what about parents what about their parents saying hey don't listen to these people hey you're a man act like a man be be accountable for your actions like i'm sorry if my view is but too simplistic in a world that's run by social media but but you know and feminism that that the the question is that the point is actually quite simple a person does not adopt an ideology they don't know exists classical liberalism had to have been discovered before people started to adopt these ideas the kids who become leftists who take guns to ice fields and shoot people had to be told to do it maybe they joined a gang somewhat so in the gang someone told them to do it right sure so antifa but again a gang because you don't have a strong parental figure at home how does antifa recruit i don't know comedy clubs like that oh come on that's how antifa recruits partly yeah i disagree you're wrong okay then i'm wrong you are like how do you then how how can you prove you're right well uh would a subject matter expert prove you're right well uh would a subject matter expert be enough for you like if a guy was like i spent 10 years on the ground with these people went to their rallies and meetings where they organize and recruit people would that be sufficient evidence to you without a doubt that's me there you go congratulations so what are you telling me these i was i was at a comedy show and they said we should kill people and then i looked to join this club yes oh look that sounds insane to me but i'm not gonna because you're intentionally straw manning what's happening because you you instead of enter instead of engaging with what is going on you're just deciding to reject it on emotion there's nothing to engage with i told you what i think so what they do is the purpose or i should say the the the fortuitousness of a guy going on stage and saying kill people is that the direct action groups various activist networks some of whom are paid through ngos that receive money from various other liberal organizations which does include soros foundation uh open open society they will go to these clubs and say what'd you think of the comedian they'll say he was fantastic and they'll be like i love that billionaire bit right like yeah i know like dude billionaires are awful hey we're doing a meeting you want to come by me and i'll be like yeah i love that billionaire bit right like yeah i know like dude billionaires are awful hey we're doing a meeting you want to come by me and i'll be like yeah i know that billionaire bit right it's uh it's at the deutsche bank uh pops so we're gonna be setting up and we're gonna be doing like direct action stuff you want to make a difference come on down then they go on down and then what happens that's how they recruit then the guy shows up to events and they smash windows and start fires and beat people right past if you said that to i'm a comedian believe it or not and i've been at these clubs for 25 years okay and never never like what we're never have i had a comic be like oh i'm doing this great bit about killing people okay these aren't real comedians and secondly i'm doing this great bit about killing people okay these aren't real comedians and secondly 99.9 of the people i know just because there might be one would when you said hey what do you think of that killing bit it's great you want to come to a meeting no one would say i want to go to a meeting so again where do they come from you're wrong i'm saying everything you're saying is out of my purview for lack of a better word and you can call me a straw man but there's a disconnect between you're like that killing bit yeah boy do i have a club for you no one i know there's not that so maybe i am a straw man well i'm not calling you a straw man you're making a straw man right the straw man is when i say here's a couple of examples of leftist comedians advocating for murder and you go so only two people said it right that's a straw man right and that's when but i don't know any of these people the straw man is when you falsify my arguments that it's easy to argue against right the argument is it has become particularly prominent on social media to advocate for murdering people you then counter with that's only two people sure we're not arguing only two people in my defense that's how insane these like that's how often i would notice a clip like this because again like i would argue and again you could say whatever whatever the lingo the kids uses that when i when i see this i glaze over because it doesn't even register you know do you know you want to know one of the biggest uh recruiting techniques that was used by the activists are acted by wall street of course they told everybody at the local universities that radiohead was going to play for free in zuccotti park and about 3 000 people showed up and if i went to see uh we'll make it sarah mclaughlin kidding that's an inside joke from if i went to see them and they weren't there i wouldn't be like wow you got me now sell me on some social and that's and that's not what happened they all stayed every single person sat down and stayed okay for the communist direct action meeting but see i would if you would do a lot of things the point is they're recruiting it works they're expanding stop those people so you can't stop someone from spreading a rumor that radiohead's gonna play that's just how evil these people are sure but you can't arrest a guy for inciting violence because incitement is a crime i don't know why anyone would go to be promised this like it's two such polar opposites to me it's like hey we lied but you want to hear some communist speeches sure we're here hey the room's paid for like it's funny and they did it and they stayed like i'm not disagreeing with look at this one i love it radiohead is not playing occupy wall street confirmed and they all showed up let me see if there's any big photos of it i was sitting there it was absolutely hilarious so what did they say what was tim seriously what's the transition from radiohead to the communist direct action meeting and they all showed up and they all showed we lied about one of the hottest rock bands of the of that era still to this day even and they're not here and now but if you want to sit we're gonna tell you how like you know billionaires are evil Right. So what they did was once everyone was sitting around in Zuccotti Park, one of the facilitators went to the middle and went, mic check. And then everyone yells, mic check back. And the people who don't know what's going on don't say mic check. And the guy then says, when I say mic check, you say mic check. Everyone then 3,000 people all say mic check. They then say, this is how, this is how we communicate. We communicate with no electronics. The real reason they do it is because it's a cult building exercise to get people to chant whatever it is you're saying. Sure. So everyone's sitting there waiting for Radiohead. The guy comes up and does the mic check and tells them what to say. And then says, before Radiohead gets here, let's talk. And they do their, their tirade. So they're waiting for Radiohead. They haven't been told they're not there yet. And then they say things like, I know all of you didn't come here just for a free concert because you're not there yet. And then they say things like, you're not bad people, right? Yeah. Of course you're a good person. You came here because you care about justice, right? Yeah. Indeed. Welcome to the fight, brother. And then Radiohead never shows up and everyone's sitting there for 45 minutes. Yeah. This is what they do. Yeah. And again, and it works. And now I'm not, I'm not saying ban them from doing that. Just evil people are going to be laughing at how clever it is. And the way you're doing, I'm like, I'm like, you answer. I said, and you know what Fox did? You know what Fox did? Fox does. At the time, Sean Hannity just made fun of him. When Occupy started, there were conservatives there. It was kind of just a hodgepodge. And instead they made sure to insult any conservative who showed up. This is why I say the right is going to lose. You know, I like, I'm not, I'm not interested in getting mad at this stuff anymore because there is no opposition. There is a right wing that has a small faction of, yeah, we have to enforce our moral worldview. Otherwise it'll, it'll be destroyed. But the overwhelming majority of moderate rights and even liberals are like, we literally don't care. Let them do it. So the left goes out and shoots Charlie Kirk. And what happens? They go on, they go online and lie and defend the killer. Not even just people on the left. Uh, they make up conspiracy theories to discredit. Like you, you had the most prominent conservative. Everyone agrees was in line for the presidency assassinated. And within a few weeks, the left was like, nah, the left didn't do it. Even though Charlie had literally said like days before, like I got to be careful, the left's trying to kill me. Even though we at Timcast have been swatted some 15 times with several bomb threats, we've had the bomb robot deployed multiple times. We know all of that's happening. The left says we have to make sure nobody thinks it's us. And they did. Same thing with Andy Ngo when he was mercilessly beaten left covered in blood. It was really bad for the left because it was one of the first times you could not ignore the degree of violence the left was engaging in. So where we are now is fascinating. And I think this is a great point for everybody listening. When Andy Ngo was mercilessly beaten, CNN covered it and they were pressured into covering it. And Brian Stelter begrudgingly was like, no, no, no, no. Like we oppose violence, you know, but they had all been ignoring that the far left had been mercilessly beating people. Still, when Andy was beaten, it was a bad thing and they were forced to say, stop, stop, stop. And now they go on stage on TV, on comedy shows and say, kill him. And they clap and they cheer. And the media no longer recoils. It has been normalized now on the left that advocating for violence and murder is actually a good thing. Luigi Mangione is a hero. Women dance in front of the camera saying they want to sleep with him. And there's a bunch of young guys who are like, okay, I'm on board. They go on stage at comedy clubs and say, you want 100,000 likes on your post? Here's how you do it. So you're going to get more of it. And it's Radio Rwanda. How much longer until another person gets shot and killed? A guy drove past our property, opened fire on us. Should we just sit back and say, it's okay that they, I just don't see it in like what you're saying. I agree with you. Like, and it seems like you have a real problem here with that because you're a bigger name person, but what you're saying about these comedy clubs, like, I don't see with like, there's a difference between comedy clubs in New York city and LA and also, and people that get on stage, neither, neither. I didn't know either of those. Do you think I could walk into that comedy club? What comedy club? You think, what do you think would happen if I walked in that comedy club? I don't know what comedy club that is. Cause that's just some guy, every comic. This is what we talk about. Okay. Again, what's that? Whatever that room was. Do you think I could walk? I think you could walk into that club. You'd be wrong. Okay. Then I'm wrong. You're dead wrong. I'm wrong a lot, but you're asking me, do I think so? Can I, do I think you can? Yeah. Because every comedy club I've been in is a comedy club where people go to laugh, not get indoctrinated, not to complain. What do you think would happen if I, if I, if Tim pool walked into that club? I don't know. I'm going to say this again to get the point across. I don't know where that club is. Well, here's why I care because these are all, this is the difference between social media and real life. And those guys would never get booked again for those sets unless they're doing some open. Of course they're getting booked again. That, that, that was the page of the comedy club that posted it. Okay. So again, could Tim pool walk into that club with that audience and that guy on stage? What comedy club was it? Oh, I don't have it pulled up anymore. You understand? Like it's not that prominent a club. If like you would know if it was the seller, the point, I think the point that I was getting at is could Tim go in there with that audience? It doesn't matter. The actual, you're saying, can he go in while that guy's on stage? Well, yeah. If, if, if bell house, New York, the bell house. Oh, that's in like Brooklyn. That's so liberal. Yeah. You think I could, what do you think would happen if I walked in that room? Well, if you walked in that room during his set and they're like, that's Tim pool, conservative commentator, they boo you. I think you'd be okay. It's Brooklyn. They're all like hippies. Well, you'd be wrong. Okay. I'd be wrong. Apparently you don't even need to ask me these questions. You know, the answers and how naive I am. Well, why do you think they would only boo me? Because again, it's Brooklyn. They're all hipsters. Are there people in Brooklyn who do direct actions and Antifa related work? Not at that club, not the bell house. There are. Okay. Then there are it's Brooklyn. It's it's it's there's a difference between bell house, that hipster club and you know, like Bed-Stuy. Uh-huh. And do you think people in Bed-Stuy go to, to bell house? Not the date, not, not, not the dangerous ones. No. So Brooklyn, which is probably the highest density in the particular hipster areas, the hipster areas are the highest density of DSA leftists, right? Sure. Where else would they be? They're not going to be in Omaha. Sure. Some might. So why would bell house not be one of the densest area of leftist activism? Because, because it's a comedy club where he's saying kill billionaires and they're all laughing about it. Okay. Okay. Where are we going with this, Tim? I'm just, you know, it seems like you have an emotional aversion to everything we're seeing, no matter what the circumstances are. Your answer is it's not happening. No, I'm not saying it's not happening. Wait, I'm saying what's not happening. Like we literally got to the point where we asked if Tim pool could walk into a Brooklyn comedy club safely and you were like, yeah, you'd be fine. Cause I'm like the guy who just got shot at like Brooklyn comedy club. I'm talking about a place I've been. I've seen the crowd and that's all I'm trying to get to communicate here. Right. Like again, like, I don't know. Look, I'm just saying like, I think the people pulling the trigger are to blame. I'm saying in my 25 years of doing standup, I've never seen a room get worked up and be like, oh, we have to kill billionaires. I'm saying when you told me the story, that's not a worked up room, Tim. I said, when you told me the story about how people like Soros funded meet people after the shows, I didn't say no way. I sat there. Nah. You literally said I've never seen that happen. I thought that. Right. But then when you said, you said, this is what they do. I didn't say you were lying. I'm like, oh my God, that blows me away. Cause this is not the comedy world I've seen in my 25 years. It's blowing me away. The stuff you're telling me, I'm not saying you're lying. Yeah. Like the radio head stuff. Yeah. When you told me the radio and stuff, I was, I was engaged. I find that fascinating and very believable. And it's still what they do. Yeah. So I would just say that, uh, the expectation, if I went to that place, uh, I'd probably be stalked immediately. And if I didn't have security with me, I'd probably be attacked physically. Like Andy, no was chased through the street and had to hide in a hotel where they tried to kick him out because they were trying to murder him. They were trying to beat him to death. Yeah. So yeah, the people who are in a room, uh, cheering and laughing saying kill billionaires. These are the same people that are protesting in the street, throwing Molotov, smashing windows, lighting cars on fire. It's a large group. Now there's there it's it's there's gradients. Some of these people are in charge, but they won't throw a bottle. But, uh, I'd, I'd be curious to ask, you know, like Phil, what do you think would happen if Andy no walked into the bell house? Oh, well, I mean, I assume he'd probably get attacked. Yeah. I think, I think we have an example. I remember when a lot got chased out of that bar. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And a lot's not even that famous. No. A lot, uh, is a, a reporter who we contract and he was at a bar in Brooklyn and they threatened him and chased him out physically. So like, you know, again, to my point, I think if the, if, if the United States right is a faction of people that is split between comedians should be allowed to advocate for killing people and they shouldn't, but the left is 90% in agreement. Let them do it because you've got the, the, the, the default libs being like, ah, it's a comedian who cares. And the left going, yeah, we like it. Well, then the equation is very simple. I referred to this as, um, what was the name of the R day? Was that his name? Yeah. The R day's wager. I posted this on on X. If you are a, liberal and the left wins, you're good. If you're a liberal and the right wins, you're good. I mean, you may not like their policies. If you're a conservative and the right wins, you're good. If you're a conservative and the left wins, you're dead. You will die. So this wager says to the normie, to the moderate, best to shut the F up or pretend to be liberal so I don't get killed. This is the terrorism of when they go on stage and say, kill them. It means that the closeted Trump supporter or conservative knows if anyone ever finds out, look, the right's not doing anything about it. The right is split between people like with your position saying, let them do it. Let them advocate for murder. It's a joke. Who cares? Comedy club. So the normie conservative or the young teenager says, I don't want to be murdered like Charlie was. And I see people on the right saying it's okay that they're advocating for my murder. So I just won't get involved. But what I'm saying is as a comedian, and again, when you told me these things, they amaze me. As a comedian, I'm like, I'm not saying let them advocate for murder. I'm saying let them do these terrible jokes because no one's listening to them. And then you're telling me stories of how Soros people are taking them to Radiohead concerts, which amaze me. And I'm proud to say I have no idea that's going on. That's not something I worry about. But again, I'm all for beating the crap out of these hippies, these protesters, people in the streets. I'm all for arresting them and punishing them to the full extent of the law. The interesting issue where we find ourselves right now is that you don't have the manpower for that. Like I was saying, you only got 30,000 NYPD cops. They're a constrained force. They've been partially defunded, you know, during the COVID era. And they're facing down a political apparatus that wants them to be gone. So what we ended up seeing in Seattle was the police sided with Antifa. There was a video where a guy was physically attacked by Antifa and the cops arrested him. And the cops apologized to Antifa. There is the 90-day bombardment of the federal building with explosives and Molotovs. And the mayor came out and joined Antifa. Why? They had the political power. So if you go to a teenager who's witnessing injustice and you tell him we allow the left to advocate for the murder of the right and for people we don't like, he's going to say, well, I'm not going to speak up. We watch them engage in violence. We watch them kill and they get away with it every single time. single time. There's no comparable right wing violence manifesting. It doesn't exist. Not at all. In response to Charlie Kirk's death, not a single riot. Which is a good thing. But a drug addict, woman abusing guy who was chewing on a speedball and tried to buy something with counterfeit money, they riot across the country and they kill 30 people in his name. Yeah. And that's terrible. Yeah. So I think the problem you have is when you get to the point where social media has mass decentralized, you know, you end up with thousands or tens of thousands of people advocating for murder. There's no one to stop. When your society says you can go on stage and say kill people, more people will do it. And then the entire meta of comedy on the left is kill people. And then the kids grow up being told kill people and they say, OK. OK. And everything you're saying, fine. But this is very social media influence to me, because, again, 25 years in New York and never has it stood out like like you said it like oh that comic did a bit about killing people i cannot remember one time in my 25 years where i'm like oh that was such a good bit about killing people but you get these guys that will never hear of that i've never heard of we'll never see on a stage not even like kill tony but doing this but but social media makes it seem like it's mainstream right it's a question of like wealth tax for instance right like wealth tax doesn't make sense it's it's literally like saying we should release unicorns to deal with our mosquito problem i've always said that you're like what anybody who knows anything about money knows like first of all unicorns don't exist and what would they do about mosquitoes even if they did do they have mosquito powers wealth tax makes no sense because you can't get assets you can't get liquid cash from somebody just because of an imaginary value placed on an asset especially when they're not legally allowed to sell that asset now where did that idea come from and why do so many leftists keep saying it over and over again it's because they go on social media or they go to clubs or they go to rallies or they hear a politician someone tells them they don't think critically they just parrot it and then you get 3 000 people marching in the street screaming wealth tax where they may as well be screaming unicorns and politicians know they can't deliver on that because it's not possible so democrats say who cares stupid people are easy to manipulate they'll manipulate and say vote for me and i'll get you what you want then they don't do it like they don't codify abortion or anything like that right then takes the opposite approach and says outright that doesn't work and it won't work and the political messaging like i'm largely fine with call them out for lying explain the truth so the left responds with kill them and half of the right goes that was fine they should they should be allowed to say that and then charlie kirk is murdered and then aaron downs and gets shot the twice he wasn't even a famous guy he's some random guy walking down the street was a trump supporter he was wearing like a trump shirt or something so the commie shot him twice in the chest and killed him that's just it now why did that commie think he needed to kill a guy well he saw the trump shirt and he was like oh my god i'm gonna kill him i'm gonna kill him i'm gonna kill so he knew what trump was because if a guy was walking around with a winston shirt nobody would think twice because they don't know what that means but the guy is seen on tv over and over and over again that trump supporters are fascists the fascists must be stopped and if you don't stop fascists you get hitler and trump is hitler so what did he do saw a random guy and put two in his chest but see there's millions upon millions people on both sides i i see uh kamala biden stickers all the time i don't want to kill them agreed the right doesn't go around killing people but what's the difference the right doesn't advocate for murder advocates against it the left advocates for murder and the right lets them but what so if the right advocated for murder do you think we'd listen to them some people probably yes i disagree you don't think out of the 77 million people that who voted for trump not a single one would decide to go and kill somebody why doesn't the right advocate for murder typically there's a christian moral framework around the successful individuals now we're getting to a point where we can agree which is closer to my yes there's a christian moral framework there's a higher power that you listen to whether it be god or your parents or someone that instills moral values in you so again this gets back to the parenting to the guy i said this parenting is immaterial to the question of a guy walking up daring down and putting two in his chest and the guy was like someone i think parenting that guy was like 60 years old so okay so he had wonderful parents and then something happened perhaps it was okay to kill i mean do you think it's possible then the four like actually i think the guy might have been in his 50s i don't know how old he was but i mean he didn't live with his parents presumably since he was a teenager so most of his life development happened outside in various circumstances yeah same for me and i don't know his parentings don't have a lot to do with it i i don't know what you wanted to kill people has to do with the fact that a guy killed a guy because you can't stop people from killing people no matter what someone will always want to kill someone and look i'm not disagreeing with you but the party of let's just let's just let's just simplify this sure do you think if the entirety of our media said kill people people would be advocating would be motivated to kill some would of course and that's what i'm talking about is happening yeah and the and do you think if you increase the volume of advocacy for murder you'd get more murder yeah and that's what i'm talking about happening but you're perhaps we should stop comedy clubs which blows my mind tim is it is it that you're scared that comedy club like you think comedy clubs are special and and outside the law or something no no i think anyone doing this isn't a real comedy club but what does that have to do with a person saying kill people nothing i think that's the problem like what what jobs are exempt from the incitement law i guess none but my okay so we agree defensive of you saying these guys are comics that are inciting i'm like these are just idiots on stage and again no one's like leaving that comedy club well i didn't i never i never i never made it a point of the argument that they're comedians no okay well my point is there are guys who are telling people on stage to kill and they're clapping for it yeah so we should arrest them fine and i'm real i don't care if you arrest these people they're just cholesterol on stage maybe that's where the disconnect was i was getting defensive that you were calling them comedians we're gonna go to your rumble rants and super chats so smash the like button share the show with everyone you have ever met but not the comedians not them son of a the uncensored portion of the show is coming up and we're gonna tell naughty jokes from ai naughty jokes all right josh says tim you and my friend goose have gotten me to not respond with anger online but i struggle because seeing the curtain of the curtain of the curtain of the curtain of the curtain of the curtain anniversary i find it hard to not respond in anger you know i'm not saying other people should or shouldn't be angry make a choice i just kind of felt like wasting my energy constantly being mad you know what it is it's seeing the same thing every single day at a certain point i'm just like you know what i just can't really get mad anymore because i get it i just know i'm just like you know what i just can't really get mad anymore because i get it i just know so there's no reason to be mad yep they're gonna do it they're gonna advocate for killing more people myself included being mad doesn't change anything uh you know i still got to do what i got to do i still got to pay for security and deal with all this stuff so it is what it is but i think um i'm just not interested in like i'm gonna you know i'm gonna yell at brian shapiro quite a bit whenever i get a chance because you know he's just all of his ex posts are just so over the top just the most vitriolic insult uh insulting vile that's why i blocked him yeah yeah exactly it's just like bro the Eisensteins are fine. I follow them. I got no problem because their their tweets are like, oh, here goes Trump again doing a bad thing. And I'm just like, aren't you guys tired of saying the same thing over and over and over and over again every single day? But it's OK. You're allowed to complain about Trump. Trump's got a lot to complain about. But like Brian needs to calm down. He needs to chill. When he comes on the show, he outright says like, you know, I can tone it down. I don't want to go too crazy. And then I'm like, I don't know, you know, just, you know, keep it civil. And then he gets beat red and his veins pop out and he screams at Phil. So anymore, he doesn't. Not anymore. He doesn't. All right. Let's see. Bob, fan of Patrice, says, can I really make a make a can I make a really good dick joke? We'll find out. We'll find out. Hey, Bob. Jailer Cran says that guy that did the music on Mr. Rogers Neighborhood could have done the music for you as you described him. The pinnacle of human ingenuity and skill is still infinitely. More than a. Maybe it's a question of the very few, you know, you know, you know how I imagine it. Like if you ever play, I can do it in two ways. Civilization or Warcraft in Warcraft two, I think is when they introduce legendary characters. So like you're playing Warcraft, you got like orcs and, you know, whatever. And they're walking around and grunts and peons chopping trees down. But then in Warcraft two, it's like you've got I think Warcraft three is introducing thrall. But you get like an. Actual single character, he's got a name and you're like, wow, this one's special because this one can do something none of the other ones can. I think Wikipedia says that there's around 300,000 might be 500, but I think it's like 300,000 people who have done something that is noteworthy, which is interesting about that is that like half of them are sports and it's like a guy you never heard of, like a cricket player who played for one season is considered notable. OK, you know, maybe very few people out of the eight billion. Have done something that Wikipedia says is noteworthy. I'm not suggesting that means people are not worthy. I'm saying. That is probably the percentage of humans that contribute to the expansion of human consciousness. Most people live their lives and facilitate human existence. And I'm not saying that. I'm saying that's that's noble. They wake up, they go to work, they're carpenters, they're Uber drivers, they're they make food, they work in kitchens so that everyone can live and be happy. But a very small percentage. Have this epiphany and do something a little bit more. And that increases the total capacity of humans ever so slightly. Perhaps those are the people that I will not be able to replicate. But as for artificial general intelligence, Astra is already better than any computer program I've ever contracted or hired to make video games, websites or art. End of story. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to insult. Yep. Hands down. I go to someone and say, I need you to draw me pixel art. Dark pixel art style dungeon. And it will take them a week. Astra did it in 10 seconds. I'm talking like art, like, you know, like Renaissance and Van Gogh and stuff. Well, I'm creative as in new art. Maybe not. But I guarantee if you go ahead and tell a like some kind of illustrative A.I., here's a photo reproduced this in the style of I mean, there's the example of the guy who posted a Monet, but then said, I asked A.I. to make a Monet. And here's what it made. And all the comments. Here's why that painting is bad. And then he came out afterwards and said, that's a real Monet. And they all deleted their posts. They don't know. But that's more of the social media. People want to be heard. They stay duct taped a banana to a wall and call it art. Yeah. You tell me I can't do that. I assure you we can. But everything you're saying. And again, I know you weren't talking about art, but it just made me think of it. That's why I brought it up. Because, again, this is the human element we talk about with comedy, with art, with what I needed. I can't touch. I needed title screen music and I needed gameplay music. And I make music and I think it would have, I don't know, like, you know, you know, that salt song you made? Yeah. How long did it take you to conceptualize, record and finish all that? Probably a couple of days. A lot of the time I was just kind of doing other stuff while I was listening to stuff, coming up with it. How much hours of labor across those couple of days? Like eight. Eight hours. Yeah. Asuno can do that in 10 seconds. Yeah. 10 seconds. And look, I don't need a masterpiece. I don't. I don't need Bad Romance by Lady Gaga. I need some, some like deep organ horror music for a dungeon. And it rendered two in about 10 seconds. And one was okay. One was pretty good. And then I said, let's make two more. And then I was like, okay, we got two good ones. Let's put those on loop. And it works. Low organ. As for the, for the character models, it's actually much easier right now to just buy existing character models. Because I don't want to have to try and render. 20 individual animations when I can click buy and it's done already. So that's still the power of decentralized human animation. The AI can do it. And I started building the first character models. And I said, building, even with AI building the models, 3D animations are, they're skinless. So it's just a bunch of squares that move, you know, and they can swing swords. I'm like, someone already made that. I can just purchase it for a hundred bucks and get a whole, whole set. As for the, the skins on the characters, I just said, here's the character I want. It went, done. So why would I hire someone to hand paint or draw a graphic design that AI can do it in 10 seconds? So that, what I'm saying is the greatest art, the greatest painting, the Sistine Chapel, maybe AI is not going to do that. But 99% of the art work that needs to be done is logo. It's a poster board mock-up. Almost every flyer now is AI because people are like, got the job done. I don't need a person to come and do it. And if you ask, if you ask open-ended, Hey, I need a logo for this. And kind of this, it'll give you 20 of them so much quicker than anyone. Yeah. And again, you go, that one's a good, yeah. And it's, it's not the one thing AI can't capture. And I think in art, you know, like everything you're talking about, like reproduce a Monet, maybe this and same thing, comedy. It's all that human element that I just can't see AI, our humanity, our soul. What is the human element? I, the best I can explain is like, we talked about is these, like you do a dark joke and whether you want to laugh or not, you do. I don't think you're doing that with AI. Same thing with painting. Like, like you just said, like, oh, well we can make it, make a Monet reproduction or something like the Sistine Chapel. And people couldn't tell the difference. Right. From the reproduction. But if you ask it to create Starry Night, to create the Haystacks, it, it wouldn't like, it can't, it would have to make something of its own. You know what I mean? Like, and I don't. I don't think it can. I don't think it has that element. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying I would venture to guess it can't. And like, you won't know until you look at it. Something like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I mean, I, I'm not so sure that, that it can't, uh, maybe it can't now. I think it can. I'm just saying for, for argument's sake, maybe now. You want to play a game? You want to, you're going to get, how about this? Is it, where did I hide the rest of your whiskey? No. How about I pull up, uh, historical good art. And then I also pull up AI art, but I don't tell you which is which. And then you got to figure out which one's which. That's a fun game. And I'll, I'll do that. But what I'm saying is they're all reproductions. It's not like, is this AI or is this a great work of art? What do you mean it's a reproduction? I'm not saying I'm going to reproduce it. I'm going to say, I'm going to tell AI to create 10 paintings in the style of famous artists. Oh, okay. Then I'm going to pull up 10 famous paintings. And I'm going to see if you can figure out which is which. I love it. All right. I'm not saying I'll do well. But I love it. I think you won't be able to. I think one of the important things I understand about art is that it's largely fake. Like, I've never, I've never brought this up before, but Hunter Biden's painting selling for like half a million dollars. Isn't there a rumor someone was suing him because she actually did the paintings? Oh, I don't know. Yeah. All I know is a banana duct taped to a wall being $100,000 is not real life. That wasn't him though, right? No, no, no, no. But like, that's what, that's what they say is good art. Or how about, um, let's, let's get very serious with one of the most famous, uh, art pieces that have been done in our generation, which is Marina Abramovich's, uh, present. I think it was called. She sat in a chair. Right. And then people came and sat in the chair with her and then they cried and that was it. That's the human element. See, that's, I can, what do you mean? That's if you go to the, if you go to MoMA, that's all go on. When you go to MoMA and ask them what good art is, that's what they will tell you. Now you could, by all means, you can say, well, I don't like that art. Sure. AI can then make art you would like. See, I'm not disagreeing with you, but all I'm saying is. All I'm saying is there's like this, this sigh when you look at certain paintings, like that's the beauty of the human mind. Like the left brain is the logical, like that does math and, but the right brain just looks at something and it doesn't say, I like this brushstroke. I like this color. It just all at once likes it or doesn't. And I don't know that AI can do that. We'll get, we'll get some good jokes in a second, but let's, uh, let's get a mega resetsu. He says, I love you teasing out the jokes. Tim, sorry, but your guest has no idea that Thomas Beckett wasn't killed by knights who wanted to kill him. They were just following. Would someone rid me of? This troublesome priest. You're familiar with the troublesome priests history. No. Is that the canterbury burry tales? Uh, I forgot which King it was, was frustrated by the priest Beckett and said, Oh, won't someone rid me of this? This meddlesome priest, this troublesome priest. And so there were three nights who didn't really care much for him at all. I didn't think about him. They were just like, okay, they wouldn't kill them. And then they're like, why'd you kill him? They were like, well, the King told us to, and he said, I never told him to kill him. I was just lamenting the troubles he was causing me. And they said, no, he said, won't someone rid me of him? And he was like, "I didn't tell you to go do it. "I didn't tell you to go do it. and like oh we thought you wanted that again this is a king and these are two hacks but i do like the story yeah again like a guy on stage to a hundred thousand likes is a is a is a snowflake in an avalanche no look you said it perfectly a guy on stage the terrifying thing to me we look the terrifying thing to me is like i got a hundred thousand likes and people one of the people that liked it is nuts that's my concern the rumbling says i'm confused tim why don't you bring up famous comedians or celebrities that have called for killing like kathy griffin or madonna yeah and we thought kathy i love that kathy griffin got canceled and madonna is another one that no one likes she never got canceled kathy griffin got canceled no madonna she cried she cried like a bitch she's like oh he canceled me madonna did not oh tons of celebrities never did madonna got called charlie charlie day said his favorite luigi was luigi mangione and the right got mad and literally nothing happened i wish you didn't say that i didn't know charlie day said that he did they said he was playing luigi said who's your favorite luigi he goes luigi mangione and then everyone laughed yeah because it is mainstream celebrity left to murder people yeah that that charlie day can go on a press junket for a nintendo movie and say his favorite luigi is luigi mangione and they love it yeah and they cheer for it shouldn't we instead be like oh that's a really bad thing and you should get in trouble for like you should be socially impacted negatively for promoting why don't they get canceled and people on the right do because the right thinks it's okay and they should be allowed to say it so you're saying we shouldn't be okay and let so well you don't want to cancel the guy who said to kill people you said he should be allowed to do it i said he shouldn't be at the club he's a hack so so so we agree he should not be allowed to say those things the club should kick him out sure okay well that's a start i mean i'm not disagreeing with you about like people i guess i am i mean again i'm disagreeing with you of like at whose fault it is when the act is committed you're blaming these hack comedians i'm blaming the guy that pulls the trigger that's all uh what was the name of the guy who pulled the trigger for charlie kirk tyler robinson was he acting alone i think so was it anyone else who had uh who had expressed information or knowledge about something happening to charlie kirk that day yeah who were those guys i have no idea how did they know what what why were they why were they saying charlie's going to get a surprise like how could they have possibly have known why do you think i think it's because there is a culture of people that go on stage and say go do this and a group of people hear it and then one guy makes a plan and the other people know what his plan is you think a bunch of people were involved in that i didn't say that that's what i took it as so you're saying that would be you're just saying it was just how is it that was the day that there were like 17 people that posted the day before charlie got murdered i remember that like there was a tweet that's like something about a bunch of them tiktok posts saying charlie's gonna get it tomorrow just wait and see so you think i can't wait until tomorrow and said it and that was the day they all agree no i'm saying that a group of people hears from another influential person go do a thing and there's a group of people that are all sitting around laughing and cheering for it then one guy says he's gonna do it and they all giggle and then he goes and does it and they all know he did it the influence comes from somewhere sure so when you have radio rwanda it is historically known that this is a contributing factor to the the genocide that the media was telling people to go kill so we blame the people who advocate for murder sure we put more blame on the guy who pulls a trigger 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