AI bosses sign self-regulation accord

This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Catching my teacher. Listen on BBC.com, the BBC app, or wherever you get your BBC podcasts. This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Charlotte Gallagher, and in the early hours of Wednesday, the 30th of September, these are our main stories. As warnings continue over the risks artificial intelligence may pose to humanity, Donald Trump says US-based AI is a threat to the world. bosses have signed an accord on self-regulation that he's called morally binding. South Africa's president, Cyril Ramaphosa, addresses the nation amid growing alarm about violence against women. And the English Premier League confirms Manchester City have been found guilty of serious breaches of financial rules. Also in this podcast, the UK's Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, sets out an ambitious agenda in a major speech to his party. Deregulation, privatisation, austerity, Brexit, and what has it given us? A country run for vested interests, not in the public interest. And this is one of the last great masterpieces by him remaining in private hands, and it's a view of Rome. A rare painting by the renowned artist Turner returns to the eternal city. The Chinese AI company, Moonshot, is conducting an internal review after researchers said they persuaded its technology to discuss making chemical and biological weapons and how to kill people. It was only a few weeks ago that a US AI expert said the technology was advancing so quickly, he believed there was more than a 10% chance it could kill all humans within the next decade. But now President Trump has said tech companies developing AI can regulate them. He was speaking after talks with industry leaders at the White House. Mr Trump said the tech leaders had signed what he called a morally binding accord on AI regulation. I think I'm seeing tremendous self-policing. These models are very complex. And again, I believe they're going to be used for the good, and when they're not, we're going to be able to nab them. We're also thinking about forming a committee of sorts, where we put maybe 10 people on that committee, it could be from that group, so the committee can watch over. The whole enterprise. We're looking at this for good. It's also maybe the biggest industry. They say bigger than the Industrial Revolution. Among those attending the White House meeting were the anthropic boss, Dario Amadei, open AI's Greg Brockman, NVIDIA's Yen-Tsun Huang, and even Elon Musk, apparently back on good terms with Donald Trump after that very public fallout. Here's Meta's founder, Mark Zuckerberg. I think what we can all agree on is that, the American public and our customers want to know that what we're building is working in the way that we all intend. So we drafted a set of principles and commitments around building robust internal controls and detecting if there are any issues with the technology, coupled with multiple layers of auditing and controls, and agreeing that we're going to have all of our boards of directors independently review the reports that come from the auditors. It was sort of a historic conversation. I don't think anything like this has come before, and I think this is a meaningful step forward. So what exactly is in the accord? Berndt de Boosman is our White House correspondent. This accord is essentially a set of responsibilities, not quite regulations, but things that the industry internally and collectively needs to address as far as some of these safety concerns that have come with AI. Now, President Trump was asked directly whether this would be in any way a legally binding agreement, and he said, no, it's a morally binding agreement. So it's a legally binding agreement, and he said, no, it's a morally binding agreement. So I think to many of the people that are concerned about the future of AI and what it could mean for society, that'll raise some eyebrows, because at the end of the day, there's really nothing other than the word of these tech CEOs that were here at the White House that enforces that mechanism. It's really just a collective agreement to keep an eye on those responsibilities in the future. President Trump very much does not want any sort of top-down government regulation on artificial intelligence, because he thinks that'll put the U.S. at a disadvantage to China and stifle what he thinks could be a huge engine of economic growth in the United States in the future. Some people are going to be really cynical about this, given that these are business people, they want to make money. And you think of the number of court cases that are happening at the moment involving tech companies, and then allegedly failing in their responsibilities. And I think that's one of the reasons that President Trump and these tech leaders had this event to show that they're all on the same page with regards to that. Now, today comes as polls show that a majority of Americans are concerned about the future of AI, and as a related issue, AI data centers that are being set up in communities across the country. And President Trump really wanted to address those concerns head on to make the case that in the White House's view, this is something that could benefit Americans by creating jobs and high-paying jobs in the future. And also that these companies would reinvest in the communities that they're building data centers in for the AI. infrastructure. And I think that's really a politically important point for President Trump to downplay the concerns about what this means for the future, and try assure Americans that these for-profit companies ultimately will do the right thing and keep these guardrails in place. And it's interesting because obviously he hosted the Chinese leader Xi Jinping recently, and he has been more in favor of having guardrails than President Trump, hasn't he? And President Trump was asked about this as well. In his view, the only reason he's been more in favor of having guardrails than President Trump is because he's the only country that would benefit from guardrails is China. Because according to President Trump's assessment, the U.S. is ahead of China already in AI, and any sort of guardrails would allow them to catch up and challenge what he sees as American dominance in the technologies. While he thinks there should be deconfliction to prevent misunderstandings with China with regards to security issues and AI, he made very clear today he in no way wants a joint venture with them in any kind that would allow them to gain an understanding of American AI technology. In his words, the secrets that the U.S. has with regards to that technology. And today as well, there was also the launch of America.gov, this new website that is going to be AI powered. It is essentially what America.gov is, is an AI powered chatbot of sorts that helps Americans find different government services that would have otherwise been spread out across a huge number of websites. Now, President Trump and other officials earlier pointed to that as an example of the benefits that AI could have for Americans, just making their life simpler by having them avoid go to various different government websites and painstakingly find forms, for example, for passports or for other documentation, name changes, for example, that the AI would point them in the right direction. And this is all part of that same message that President Trump really wants to get to Americans is that in his view, this is something that benefits all Americans, not necessarily just those who are involved directly in the technology. He sees this as a growth engine for all Americans, full stop. Berndt de Boosman in Washington. In the last few months, 12 women have been murdered in just one district near the South African city of Johannesburg. The discoveries have caused widespread alarm and come against the backdrop of longstanding concerns about high levels of violence against women. Now, the president, Cyril Ramaphosa, has been addressing the nation on the government's plans to tackle gender-based violence. He said the men and boys of South Africa had a responsibility to take women's safety seriously. For too long, gender-based violence has been treated as a woman's problem to solve. Women march, the women of our country organize, they speak out, they protest, and they comfort survivors. Women change their roots home, avoid going out at night, and warn one another about dangerous places and dangerous men. We have placed the burden of male violence on women. That must change. That was Cyril Ramaphosa. Pete Ross heard more from our correspondent in Johannesburg, Pumza Filani. One of the key things, the key takeaways that South Africans would have been looking out for here is what the next steps are. And he identified four areas where he will be concentrating specific timelines. So one of them is he has given a directive for unresolved cases that are linked to gender-based violence to be prioritized and reported on within 60 days. He's also called for an audit of municipalities to be done where public spaces are checked and cleaned up. This is in instances where some areas are overgrown or there aren't any street lights, areas where women that are walking home or work. would be particularly vulnerable. Now, this is because of previous cases where we've seen where women are targeted in this form, where they're trying to get between home and work in specific communities. So that's one of the things he said he needs looked at within that 90-day period and identified with the intention of these repairs being done where they're needed. And do we have any indication as to how this speech has gone down in South Africa? Will the President's comments help reassure people these murders and women's safety in general is being taken seriously? It's difficult to imagine that many women would agree or feel that it has gone far enough, in part because of what the President himself acknowledged when he was addressing the nation, saying he spoke to the nation seven years ago this month precisely when there was a spate of killings and made a range of promises of things that would be done. He acknowledged tonight that not enough had been done to turn things around. So a lot of women would probably walk away feeling that they were looking for more concrete solutions on what will be done, one, around those harmful attitudes about women that are held by so many men in the country, but two, what's going to be done in communities where there is poor policing or minimal visible policing, and what's going to be done about speeding up the prosecution of cases where women do go and report crimes and those crimes take ages to go through the courts. When are we with the. The current investigation into the murders that have been taking place in Johannesburg. What the President shared this evening was that there was speculation that a serial killer may be involved. He said that the police have no indication that that's the case or even that the cases are linked. They are still following all possible leads and he promised that those cases are receiving a high priority with the intention of solving them, one, so the families' fears are allayed, but also the broader community. Pumza Falani. Next to an update on a significant story from the world of football that we first heard about on Friday. The Premier League in England has officially confirmed the findings of an independent commission which has been looking at Manchester City's alleged violations of financial rules. It's found the club guilty of all charges related to serious breaches of the league's financial rules. This fan summed up the emotions of many. The people, the fans, they'll never. They'll never have the same trust in their owners and the club again. There's the true fans that will stay with the club through thick and thin, but obviously they'll lose quite a few. So what exactly did the commission find? Our sports editor Dan Rowan is in Copenhagen, where the European Football Clubs Association has been meeting. It says that City were guilty of all charges related to the breaches of financial rules over a nine-year period between 2009 and 2018. And the majority of rules relating to a failure to cooperate with the Premier League's investigation. It refers to sham commercial deals, which were designed, it says, to artificially inflate the club's revenues and reduce costs by around £900 million in order to comply with financial rules. It also says that the club had made concerted efforts to stop and frustrate the investigation, referencing egregious acts of non-cooperation and dishonest statements. Now, the Premier League have said that the club systematically broke their rules for nearly a decade. And a short while before this publication, I was able to catch up with the Manchester City chief executive, Ferran Soriano, who's a delegate here. Mr Soriano, hello, sir. Can I just ask about the guilty charges, how you feel about that? Can you have any message for your fans who are concerned about the club being called cheats? How long do you think this will take, sir? Can you give me any idea why you're concerned? Are you confident you can prove your innocence to the club at all? Any message for the fans who are concerned? Thank you. Are you concerned about a points deduction or relegation, expulsion? No comment then from City's chief executive when I tried. But subsequently, they've released a statement referencing how disappointed and surprised they are by this ruling, reiterating that the club is innocent and saying that they will appeal. They have until Friday to do so. And the next stage of this saga is a sanctions hearing when we will discover, how exactly the league intend to punish this club. Dan Rowan. A renowned painting has returned to the city that inspired it almost two centuries ago. A particularly well-preserved painting of Rome by the British artist J.M.W. Turner will be on display for three days. Dating back to the 19th century, the painting was based on sketches made in the Italian capital. And Sarah Rainsford went to take a look for us. It's been called Turner's great love letter to Rome, a dreamy golden coloured landscape of the city viewed from the hills. Now, the oil painting that the artist began here in the 1820s has been returned to Rome and put on public display for the first time. The masterpiece was brought here by Sotheby's auction house ahead of a sale later this year. And according to specialist Julian Gascoyne, it is an extraordinary work of art. Turner is regarded as one of the most important and influential landscape painters in the Western tradition. And this is one of, the last great masterpieces by him remaining in private hands. It's one of the best preserved pictures by the artist to survive. And it's a view of Rome, a subject that was extremely dear to his heart and a subject that inspired him throughout his career. The painting Rome from Mount Aventine also contains important clues to the artist's technique. Very unusually, it's not lined on the back and it's thought it has never been restored, which means that much of Turner's original working is still clear to see. You can see this very wet application of paint, which is almost sort of dribbling down the canvas. Equally in the clouds up here, these sort of clumps of paint at the end where the knife has stopped. It's this rich surface that is one of the things that makes this painting so special. There's also a sense of the artist himself. Beneath the original frame are his fingerprints left in paint where he held his canvas. The work last sold over a decade ago for 30 million pounds. But it's expected to reach 50 million at auction, smashing new records. At least for the next three days, though, it is free to see here in the city that first inspired it. Sarah Rainsford reporting from Rome. Still to come in this podcast. It was really electric. You know, there are a lot of dancers that I see on TikTok and Instagram. He was doing them on stage and it was fun. A week-long dance-a-thon in Nigeria. It felt like everything I believed in was suddenly collapsing. This is the story of an Islamic boarding school in Indonesia with a dark secret. Of the school's head teacher. This was someone I respected above anyone else. And the investigation led by students he's trying to silence. If this is leaked to the media, I'll be destroyed. This is World Wide Web. World of Secrets. Catching my teacher. This is the Global News Podcast. A man who spent 41 years on death row in the US for murder has been released on bail after newly analysed DNA evidence didn't link him to the crime. Douglas Stuart Carter, who's now 71, was convicted for the killing of Eva Olsen in Utah in 1985. He always maintained his innocence, saying his confession was coerced. His son, Tyler Angel, spoke to reporters outside the prison as he waited for his father's conditional release. Hopefully he doesn't get too jittery because it's been a while. I want him to see the stars. I'd like for him to just get a life that we all get to live. None of us understand what this guy's gone through. And how crazy it's going to be to step out here. His lawyer, Neil Hamilton, was also there as his client walked out of jail. He spoke to the BBC's Rebecca Kesby. When he came out of the doors of the jail, he had the biggest smile I've ever seen on his face. It was surreal. It was wonderful and aggravating at the same time. He went home to his family. He hasn't seen them ever. This was his first time. This was his first time even shaking his son's hand or giving him a hug. It's aggravating because this didn't need to be. The state of Utah stole 41 years from Doug Carter. But the theft wasn't enough. They then put him on death row. All the things we take for granted, choosing what to eat, choosing to open a door, turning your lights on, seeing the stars, breathing fresh air. This is the first time he's done that in 41 years. And it is a lot. The world he has entered into is not the world. The world that he was taken from. He was innocent. They framed an innocent young black man. Right. Well, obviously, this is a legal case. And other lawyers may disagree with your analysis of the situation. But it does seem as if he has been released because they've reanalyzed DNA evidence taken at the scene. And as far as we understand it, they cannot link Mr. Carter with that DNA. Can you explain? This love to when Eva was murdered, the person, the man who killed her stabbed her 10 times. he used a knife that had a low profile blade and then the knife didn't have a good grip there is affirmative evidence that the killer sliced his hand open when evo was fatally shot the killer used a pillow to muffle the sound of the gunshot there's blood on the handle there's blood on the pillow there's blood on the back door these are all instances where we can definitively point to and say that's the killer's blood that is what was tested and doug has now been affirmatively excluded so it also seems though that the witness testimonies that were key to the conviction are also now under review well that's the reason why we're here in 2012 the federal public defender of arizona the capital habeas unit they filed a petition in state court to overturn doug's conviction they learned the year previously that these key witnesses had been threatened with a gunshot and they were not able to do so they were not able to do so they were and they've been told from people that they should be able to trust that doug did it and now they're facing the realization that not only might it not be doug but also that their loved one's murder remains unsolved that was neil hamilton the president of the hard right national rally party in france jordan bardella has issued a furious response to allegations that he made anti-semitic comments as a young activist the 31 year old is tipped to be the successor to marine le pen he says allegations are politically motivated and an attempt to damage his party ahead of elections next year he says he plans to sue for libel mr bardella's lawyer david dasilla dest said the messages were fake he denies with the utmost vigor the greatest firmness and in the most categorical manner possible ever having made such remarks it is utterly disgraceful to attribute such publications to him back in 2013 he never published anything of the sort nor did he ever say or express anything of the kind it is quite obviously a crude forgery the accusations have been published by the website media part its chief executive corinne outlined the comments mr bardella is alleged to have made we had these comments all the banks are owned by jews he also lamented in this exchange that the jew must dominated other people crush them and rob them as a sionist is necessarily a profane jewish our investigation is based on numerous private conversation and backed up with witnesses accounts we did our job as you know investigative journalists verifying cross-checking documenting so it means that we have documents mails and messages from 2013 to 2015 it was very young coming into politics it's true but it's not it's it's defense his defense is that everything is false which we can prove is not true jordan bardella and marine lupin that's what they say that you know they will put us in court we will see unfortunately we are very used of our far right threats we condemn them but after all if they want to sue us under the law of free press in france which is very old and also very protective to free press we are very ready to go there defending our information which are of public interest and who serve the public kareen futo the uk's new prime minister andy burnham has given an emotional first speech to his labour party's annual conference he promised greater public control over essential services and vowed to reverse decades of privatization as well as establish free social care britain he said had been on the wrong path for the future for a long time deindustrialization deregulation privatization austerity brexit and what has it given us a country run for vested interest not in the public interest with power held in too few hands and too many places left to drift i am ready to do things my predecessors wouldn't i will make a break with the direction of the past 40 years and i will put britain on a new path build a new economy and a new politics that is the case i make to you today our uk political correspondent rob watson was watching the speech what stood out for me was what you just heard there which was an ideological case clearly and emotionally put that britain has been on the wrong track since the 1980s and that the solution is more state intervention in the economy and to take a more i think i would call it a communitarian or left-wing approach to life in the uk to recapture what andy burnham at any rate sees as the sort of social solidarity that existed post second world war years and then on top of that if you like overarching critique there were some genuinely radical proposals such as changing britain's voting system something that if it went ahead might end the centuries-old tradition that we have been doing for the last 30 years is not and he made an awful lot of promises but can britain afford to make such big economic changes now well that is the big question p particularly given that the uk has been stuck and is forecast to be stuck in a pattern of very low growth and it is already highly indebted and i think that was why andy burnham was slightly cautious about what he promised so despite that critique that we heard a sort of left-wing sounding critique he was not suggesting mass renationalization of huge swathes that he had promised of the economy more public control so i guess the answer to your question is we'll wait and see what he actually delivers in policy terms not just now but of course if he wins the next election because a lot of this speech was about a radical plan not for now but for three years hence and there are lots of domestic policies in that speech there but his promise of a new long-term relationship with the eu that is likely to raise eyebrows both at home and abroad it is indeed but if you think about it and you go back to the clip that we heard at the beginning of the interview andy burnham is someone who says very clearly that brexit was a mistake it has not turned out well and that there needs to be a big national debate about the relationship that the uk has with the european union for the century ahead so he thinks that's the debate that difficult though it might be needs to be had that was rob watson speaking to pete ross finally a nigerian man has completed a hundred and sixty eight hour dance marathon in a bid to set a new world record officials have to verify the evidence before they can confirm the record the attempt was live streamed on social media and our reporter in lagos makochi okafor went along to watch it was really electric you see lots of young people supporting sharing he the dancer which is ben daniel gabriel he was dancing you know there are lots of dancers that i see on tiktok and instagram he was doing them on stage and it was fun you know there were lots of afrobeats which is like very popular music jerry here in nigeria that is very high power very energetic and now he has according to him crossed the 168 hour mark officially he crossed that mark at 3 a.m local time today but he continued dancing until 12 noon i was following the the stream on his instagram the live stream but now he's done dancing and he's gone to hospital for checkups because he's been dancing for seven days but he's been dancing for seven days and he's been dancing for seven days and he's been dancing for seven days and he's been dancing for seven days and he's been dancing for seven days guess what he's actually going to be back for an after party this evening to continue dancing with his friends i'm sorry if someone has danced for 168 hours can you imagine then going do you know what i'm going to do a bit more dancing that was makochi okafor and that's all from us for now if you want to get in touch you can email us at global podcast at bbc.co.uk and don't forget our sister podcast the global story this edition of the global news podcast was mixed by pete wise and the producer was nikki varico the editor is karen martin and i'm charlotte 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