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AgnsBill Tells His Life Story (Full Interview)

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AgnsBill Tells His Life Story (Full Interview)

The artist is a trap rapper from South Georgia, specifically Bainbridge, who credits his music career to a viral music video for "Dirty Money." This led to a bidding war among record labels, culminating in a partnership with Signal and Columbia Records. He emphasizes authenticity, avoiding ad-libs and maintaining a raw, unfiltered creative process—often punching in lyrics on his phone before studio sessions. His music is deeply rooted in local culture and street experiences, shaped by early exposure to Southern hip-hop artists like Chief Keef and YoungBoy. Key collaborations include work with Boss Man D-Lo, Rubber Band OG, ABGR (Lil' Corey), and Ballad Baby, with some tracks already released. Despite a difficult upbringing marked by incarceration, crime, and family conflict, the artist attributes his survival to surrounding positive influences and a disciplined, observant mindset. He values real, accountable friendships and remains grounded, prioritizing hard work over fame. His journey reflects resilience, self-reliance, and a commitment to staying true to his roots, with music serving as both a personal outlet and a path to legitimacy in the industry.

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Now, at this point, what genre of music do you consider yourself? I'm a rapper. I'm a trap rapper. And does it get any more specific than that? Unless trap is as far as it goes for you at this point. Nah, I'm really just, you know, popping my shit on some trap shit, you know. Spin some hand up, you know. But other than that, I'm just, you know, in the trap with it. Now, when it comes to your music, what is your opinion on ad libs in a song? Now, let's zoom out here for a second. If there was a circle chart of 100%, what percentage would you say songs of yours, whether it's released, unreleased, doesn't matter, just generally speaking here, has ad libs versus no ad libs? Man, shit. Really, there's nothing, nothing on. I don't really got ad libs in my music. Now, have people noticed that? I know you mentioned, you know, your fans are going to accept whatever you put out, whether you put ad libs or not. But have people noticed that you don't really ad lib or you don't do many ad libs? I mean, yeah, people notice it. But I mean, I ain't really too far, too much heard. You know, nobody complained about it, say nothing about it. You know, as far as like the label, they wouldn't want me to do that shit. You know, other than that, like, I ain't really heard too much of nothing about it, honestly. Like, however I route, that's just, you know, that's just me. And let's break a couple of other things down, too. You mentioned your fans here. Do you have a name for this group of people? Like, sometimes artists will have a name for their bass, and sometimes their bass will create a name for themselves. I don't know if you've gotten that far with your music career where they have a name. They call themselves or you call them something in particular. Right. I ain't really, you know what I'm saying? I ain't really got into all that shit yet. I really just really say, like, people support me type shit. You know what I'm saying? Fuck it with the nigga music. I ain't really on all that fan shit. And just to give you, just to give you an example of those in the audience, like Nicki Minaj, for example, has the Barbs, or Beyonce has the Beehive, or Taylor Swift has the Swifties. So sometimes these basses, they have names, whether the artist gives it to them or they come up with a name themselves, and then it's a thing. Yeah. So I didn't know. I don't know if you've gotten that far yet. I ain't trying to come up with no name. I let no one do that. And you also mentioned a record label here. Care to share the name of the record label you're on at this point? Signal and Columbia Records. Now, how did you become a part of that imprint? How did you get that deal? How did that become a partnership? How were you discovered? I fought around and brought the fucking video to on the song Dirty Money that I had. And I dropped that bitch probably like last year sometime. I dropped the song, but I never did the video. And I did the video probably like three, four months ago, I want to say. I dropped that motherfucker. I dropped a snippet on my page, and it's a Florida promo page. The dude hit me in the DM, like, bro, send me this bitch. I sent it to him, and that shit just went viral. Now, do you want to name the Florida promo page here and your own page as well, just in case there's. Just in case there's some scammy or fraud pages out there pretending to be you, things of that nature. No, it's still official Florida promo page, but my own Instagram is AllGrounds1. AllGrounds1. And what's the meaning behind that screen name? Like, why the number one, for example? Man, they took my damn Instagram so much, I just needed some of the name and shit. So I just named it AllGrounds1, like, you know, the one that on AllGrounds type shit. Now, how many Instagram profiles. How many Instagram profiles have you had over the span of time that's been taken down, as you described? Man, probably about five, about five of them bitches. I want to say about five of them. Probably on my sixth one right now. And what have you been taken down for? Man, I don't even know. I feel like motherfuckers be, you know, reporting my shit, hating, you know, paying all the motherfuckers to take a nigga's shit down. You know, niggas be doing all type of shit, like, whenever they see that motion and they shit ain't going. But I don't know, though, you know. I could have been doing some shit on mine. So, I don't know. And any meaning behind AllGrounds with a Z there? You know, shit, AG and that bitch, you know, AllGrounds, no scam. You know, that's what a nigga stand on. So, yeah, that's the meaning. And that is an acronym that you use letters for in your stage name. Just for some history with that, just sidestepping for a second, was that something that you came up with, or was that someone else? Pointing that, or give the history there for those in the audience getting to know you here for the very first time. Now, my dawg, my dawg really, like, he was, you know, you know, pushing this shit, really. Like, far as just, you know, our Instagram names and Facebook names and shit, you know. We was just on some AllGrounds shit, AG and that type of shit. So, you know, I just took it and ran with it. And are there other recording artists under this imprint as well, aside from yourself, or just you at this point? No, it's just me right now. And when it comes to the music video here, so it blows up. Was this the only record label that came and tried to get your attention, or were there others? Or is there a bidding war for you, so to speak? Yeah, it was like a bidding war at first. I think I ran into, like, five, six or seven labels. Probably more than that, but I know for sure, like, five, six or seven of them bitches. And were these major record labels as well, independent record labels? Were these major. Recording artists trying to sign you to their own imprint? Were these independent recording artists? Yeah, I think it was a mix of all that, you know, major record labels, smaller labels, you know. A couple artists has reached out to me, too. You know, they ain't hit me up on no trying to sign me type shit, but, you know, you know what I'm saying? They let me know, like, they listening, fucking with me and shit. And did that also open up to maybe any possible collaborations with those artists as well? I got a couple collaborations. I'm on. Clicking up with a couple, you know, mainstream artists and shit. So, yeah, I think it did. Any you care to name here? I got some shit. Clicking up with Boss Man D-Lo and shit. I did some with Rubber Band OG. And, man, ABGR La Cora got one in. Ballad Baby, you know, I got one with him. So, you know, it just worked. Now, the ABGR. Corey collab is out, as well as Ballad Baby. What about the other two? Rubber Band OG and Boss Man D-Lo. Have those been released yet? No, they ain't been released yet. And care to share the titles as well? For those in the audience that want to hear the collaborations that are out now. ABGR, Lil' Corey, and Ballad Baby. Man, Ballad Baby got one named Telegram. It's on all platforms. And the one with ABGR, Lil' Corey, it's called Throwin' Salt. That's everywhere, too. And that's also one of your record label mates there. Yeah, for sure. And was that a collaboration that happened after you signed to this imprint? Or was that done even before the signing? I want to say. Like, did the record label hook you two up? Or was that done well before? No, they ain't hook us up on no type of shit. I think he was performing at a club that I was at one night. And just wanting to do some type of shit. And staying normal. And shit, we just locked in. On the song. And what about the Boss Man D-Lo collaboration? Was he one of the recording artists that reached out to you on DM or anything? Or was that just something separate there? Nah, he never really DM'd me. But shit, he always hit my. He always post my music and shit on his story. And shit, he be poppin' my shit. So he fought right to hit my manager, P-Burg, up one day. And told me to send an open. So shit, we just went from there. And P-Burg, just for transparency, is off-camera to the side of you during this interview. Yep, so. And we'll talk about him a little bit later on in this conversation. But when it comes to the record label you're on now, the one that you decided to partner up and do a deal with, you know, before we even talk about them, let's just backtrack for a second. Was that something you wanted? Was that something you were seeking? Were you one of those recording artists that always wanted a record deal? Or did that. Did that just so happen by chance? And I guess you'll explain the reasoning here in a little bit why you took it. But was that something you were just going with the flow with? Or that's one of your goals back in the day? Yeah, that shit really just happened. Like, I ain't really been rapping for about four years now. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, it just shit just happened. Shot a video, dropped it. You know, my dawgs and shit, they been pushing me to shoot the video to my music and shit. They been telling me to drop some shit, but I never did. I just did it. It just went up, so. Now, was this something, looking back, you wish you didn't have? a little bit sooner, you know, people asking you to make some music and things of that nature, or did things align correctly how they should have? You know, I know that's a good question. It probably would have happened, you know, sooner, you know, faster, you know what I'm saying, but, you know, everything turned out good, you know. And why this imprint here? You mentioned there were like five or six people after you, it was a bidding war. Why did you pick them? Yeah, I mean, you know. Could have went with anyone else. Why them here? Like, whatever we talked about, it like, you know what I'm saying, it worked in my favor and shit like that. And like, you know, the money was there, you know, everything was good, you know, it wasn't no crazy deal, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah. And speaking of money, was this the most financially lucrative out of all the deals you were offered that you also chose, or? It wasn't about the finance, it was maybe another reasoning why you chose them, overall speaking. Yeah, it was way more money than the other deal. You know, the other deal, they were just trying to hit a nigga with some real small shit. You know, I could have, I could have, even the label I signed, so I could have turned it down and, you know, just, you know, let the bids keep going and shit, but, you know, I was like, fuck it. You know, ain't no sense in me keep waiting, you know. Opportunities don't even come by like this, like, especially where I'm from, so, you know what I'm saying? I mean, like, the first one. I feel like the first one that really out my city with a, you know, a real, a real, you know, record deal, you know what I'm saying? So, like, that shit just don't come by too often. And what city is this that you're representing here? Bama, Georgia. South Georgia. And, you know, prior to this bidding war, like, you know, understandably, you mentioned you've been rapping relatively recently, but had you been offered deals and such things in the past on your come up? Or was now the first time you garnered this, these opportunities here? Yeah, no, I ain't never, um, had no record deal, but, um, yeah, the first time I got an offer was when I dropped that video, when I dropped that video on Dirty Money. And do you remember when you actually signed on that dotted line? How recent was the contract? Uh, I want to say that shit was about, about three and a half, four months now, I think about four months ago. In 2025? Yeah, 2025. And care to share the details? How old were you? How old were you when you signed? I'm 24 now. I'm 24. And care to share your birthday as well? The month and the day, perhaps? A lot of them scammers out there, I can't do all that. Okay, can't do that, understandably, but you are 24. And you know, asked you this question, you had no problem stating your age. There's some recording artists that won't answer that question when they're asked, what age are they? Why no problem here for you? Yeah, they ain't, they ain't no big issue. I'm still young. And, okay, a couple more questions about this record deal and then we'll move on with some other topics. But, you know, what was that courting process like for you to sign? How crazy did things get, and using crazy loosely here, but, you know, sometimes record labels will fly out of recording artists, they'll wine and dine them, so to speak, do this, do that, trying, trying to get them to sign. Yeah. And how did any of these record labels go to court you? Um, they really went on shit. They were really trying to get a motherfucker to come to they studios and record and shit, have little conversations and shit, you know, sweet talking, shit like that, but um, I think I came up here to Atlanta one time for um, 300. I came up here to do them, and then I um, that's when Jeff had hit me for um, sitting down, and I talked it up with him, couple weeks later we flew out of New York. And we'll talk about Jeff a little bit later as well. Now, ask you a bunch of questions here about a record deal. You know, that phrase, record deal, that's scary for some up and coming recording artists. You know, there's a debate, you know, some recording artists, uh, yeah, go ahead, sign that deal, a deal is what you want. Some recording artists are like, wait, hold up, do your, do your thing independently, uh, get more leverage. So on and so forth. Where do you stand? Obviously, circumstances are different for everyone, but anything else you want to say here on the topic or the debate of a record deal? Yeah, shit, like, nigga really was just, you know what I'm saying, like, ready to clean his face up in the street, you know what I'm saying? Like, police shit, all type of street shit, you know what I'm saying? That shit really don't, you know what I'm saying, it don't, it don't stop, it don't stop, man, but you know what I'm saying, like, it just, you know, nigga go legit, nigga just trying to go legit, yeah. And what does that feel like? Going legit? I ain't gonna lie, it feel good, but, you know what I'm saying, like, you still gotta handle up, like, you know what I'm saying? You gotta work, you gotta keep grinding, like, this shit don't stop. And also, what does that feel like when a recording artist such as Boss Mandilo hits up your manager to, uh, get an open to jump on a song, you know, there's some recording artists. They gotta pay for those opportunities. Sometimes even payment isn't enough, and artists will say, "Hey, I don't care how much money you got, I'm not doing a collaboration with so-and-so person, or artist, or whatever," you know what I mean? Yeah. Uh, what does that feel like, getting that type of attention or recognition to do a collab with someone of that stature? I ain't gonna lie, shit, it feel good, you know, it feel good having people in the industry fucking with you and shit like that, you know, um, you know, some motherfuckers be Hollywood shit, like, they'll be studying all that shit, there's a, there's a bag involved, but I ain't gonna lie, those bro fuck with me and shit, so, yeah, yeah, it's a little of them. And, uh, also just one more question about, uh, Boss Mandilo and that collaboration, did that also happen before the record deal, or did that sort of thing happen after the record deal? Um, I wanna say that shit happened, yeah, that shit happened way after the record deal and shit, but I think he been bumping my music and shit before then. So, the record label wasn't involved with that collaboration, that was strictly just on? No, the record label wasn't involved, like, bro was already bumping my shit, um, before I had signed, because he was signed to, um, he was signed to Alamo, I think, or still is, and, um, they were trying to sign me too, and they were like, um, they just overheard, I guess, him and Rod Way bumping my shit, some shit like that, so. Now, when it comes to Jeff, here, I don't know how long you've had a chance to work with him personally or not, but we'll still ask this question, uh, just in case, and if it's too early, I know it's like three, four months in of the deal, but, uh, when it comes to Jeff, what's it like really working with him? Um, what is it like working with Jeff? Jeff really like, I ain't gonna lie, Jeff a little gangster on the low, and shit like that, uh, you know, but shit, he handle his business, so I fuck with Jeff. And, uh, have you had the opportunity to be in the studio? Have you been in the studio with him at all? Has he ever been in a studio session with you yet, or it's just more so communication at this point with him, whenever, uh, there's dialogue between you two? Yeah, it's like communication, FaceTime calls, shit like that, you know, we, um, we kiddin' in New York, you know what I'm sayin', we kiddin' and chillin' and shit, you know, went out to eat, you know, vibe and shit like that, but, you know, we ain't really did nothin' else other than that. Now, I know it's still relatively early, so I'll ask you a, uh, this question. I'll ask you a question as well, and if it's too early to answer, that's fine, we'll leave it alone, but, you know, just with your, uh, conversations and, uh, linkage with Jeff, what's the best advice you received from him, or most important thing you learned being around him so far? Basically, like, just keep, like, you know, grindin', keep networking, you know, tryin' to get to the next level, just see it in you, though, like, I ain't gon' care, he see it in you. Like, I ain't gon' say shit that, you know, other motherfuckers around me say to me, you know what I'm sayin', like, you gotta, you just gotta keep goin', you just gotta, you know, reach that next step, but you gotta keep workin', too, and so, no matter what it is, like, he be on the nigga every day, like, that nigga tell me, like, get on TikTok, work the TikTok, the, every social media I got, like, he be on the nigga ass about that, but, you know, yeah, I fuck with him. And speaking of TikTok, speaking of any social media platforms, again, because there could be some scam. Scam, or scammy, or fraud pages, or profiles about you, impersonating profiles, things of that nature, again, for those in the audience getting to know you for the very first time, can you share your official TikTok handle, or any other social media profiles, uh, platforms that you're prominently on? You've already shared the Instagram, so they know that, but TikTok and anything else here you wanna share? Yeah, everything goes. You can, uh, look me up on A-G-N-S Bill, at A-G-N-S Bill, everywhere else, just my Instagram, it's Bill, G-R-A-M-Z, one, the number one. And also here, um, moving forward, I do wanna ask you this question here. Now, um, let's, uh, zoom out for a second, now, when it comes to the, um, when it comes to just the, um, the phrase "frightening." friends and people that are your friends. So on and so forth. That label, that verbiage there. For you, what is your definition of a real friend? A definition of a real friend? I feel like a real friend is someone that tells you when you're wrong or when you're right. Let you know you're wrong. You need to correct yourself. But also, you know, 10-toe behind you, you know, no matter what, even if you're wrong or right. I feel like that's a real friend. A real friend going, you know, wanting nothing but the best for you. A nigga that really just fought with you. Now, how do you spot fake friends? You know I'm one of them all for a fake shit, you know. A motherfucker, I deal with fake people all the time. But, you know, I be fake back too, you know what I'm saying? I fake kick it too, you know. And why fake kick it back? You know, there's some people, when they spot a fake friend or someone fake around them, they cut them off. That could be a policy for them. For you, why play fake back? Things of that nature. You know, shit, you know, if a motherfucker might be using me for something, I might be doing for something. So, you know, we both getting what we want out of each other. You know what it is, what it is. Now, do you have a best friend? I ain't really got no best friend. You know, my nigga's like, my brother's tight. Shit, like, I got niggas that I really grew up with, you know. When I really jumped out the pool and stayed with my partners and my dolls and shit. So, you know, I got niggas I really fuck with, you know. I don't look at them as like a friend. And what about musically here? Do you have a best friend on the music side of things? Nah, not really. Besides, like, Bird. Nah, I fuck with Bird. But other than that, like, nobody else, really. Speaking of Bird, how did you two meet for the very first time? Can you take the audience back on how that started? Man, shit, I really knew Bird from years ago, like, you know what I'm saying? Through my sister and all that type of shit. But I was young as fuck, though, so, yeah. How young are we talking? Was it an age or a grade for you, perhaps? I was, like, in elementary school, around about fifth, sixth grade, you know. Running around with my big cousin and my big sister and shit like that. So, you know. Now, what is Bird really like? I mean, shit, he a real genuine nigga. Like, if he fuck with you, he fuck with you. Kind of hard and shit like that. And was he one of the ones that tried to encourage you to get behind the mic earlier than when you actually did? I think when I was rapping, he probably didn't really even know. But, you know, a couple years, I want to say about two years. He probably was on my shit heavy, you know, fucking with me and shit like that. He really was pushing me to do the Dirty Money video. He really was pushing me to binge shoot, like, a video, period. But I just never did. You know, like, I just got tired of hearing it, like, from him and different other folks. Like, fucking, I just need to do it, man. I ain't going to lie to you. We were done. Every step of the way, like, supported the nigga. And that was also one of the causes for this bidding war, was that music video. Yeah, hell yeah. Now, when it comes to Berg, you know, ask this question about another person previously in this conversation, but we'll ask it about him. What's the best advice you received from him, or most important thing you learned being around him as well? Yeah, it's a bunch of shit that a nigga learn, you know what I'm saying? Just being around him and how he move and all that type of shit like that. But, you know, far as the music and the business side is like, you know, you want a nigga to keep working, keep grinding. He tell me every day, like, you know, This shit just started. When you're number three, four months in, you know, nigga just going to keep putting in the work. Shit going to get, you know, big in the building. And he's going to tell me nothing wrong. So, I just listen. And on the music side of things, there is a project, a collaboration between you two. Yeah, for sure. And share the name of that title as well, for those in the audience getting to know you. Mate Chop. Great again. Now, when it comes to your unreleased music, how much unreleased music? Is there of yours collaborating with him at this point? Obviously, that body of work is out publicly. It's available on all DSPs. But how many tucked in there in the hard drive of just you two? Well, I don't really think we got no more, you know, no more unreleased. But I know most of the songs that we dropped on that tape were like really about most of the songs that we did. Besides the one that we had already had that we shot a video to, like, probably like last year sometime. So, I don't really think we got any more unreleased songs that we did. Now, on your social media platform, Instagram, if one were to look at your bio, I believe it says that he's your manager at this point. Yeah, for sure. But he's also a recording artist as well. Yeah. So, how does that work? You know, him being a manager of you, but also another recording artist as well, as you're a recording artist yourself. Yes, yeah. Like, you know, you on the Birdman shit right now. You know, he getting around. You know, you get on there, you know, play behind the scene, whatever you need to do for the team to win. Is that ever a conflict of interest, his music and his artistry, because he is a manager of you and he does music as well? Is that ever something that gets in the way of the business or anything of that nature? Nah, the business, I always get hung up. You know, want nothing to come between the business. And just want to be fair here, too. You know, I know, P-Berg, you're not mic'd up. You can see. You can speak, though, if you'd like, on this, on anything we said about you. Again, just to be fair, just to give you a chance here. And if not, that's okay, too. Did you want to chime in on any of the things we talked about? Do you want to fact-check any of the things we talked about here in regards to you? Yeah, just basically, like, when he got signed, I kind of, like, I started out just wanting to be a manager. I never really wanted to be an artist. I became an official, you know, I just kind of let it fail back in the day and try to poke some more in. Got it. So, no conflict of interest there. I know. Anything of that nature there. And when it comes to the management side of things, how did that even happen, too? Was that something that he asked you to be his manager? You suggest, hey, I could manage the situation for you, and that's how it works, or? And, you know, because you've, you know, you met him in elementary school, or a grade in elementary, I don't know if you were in elementary school or the same grade, or what's the age gap there, the difference? Oh, oh, okay. Well. So, a couple questions here, then, if you care to share. Does any of this surprise you? The fact that he gets a record deal, how far he's climbed on that success ladder, being that you did see him in those elementary school days, up until now? It really don't surprise me, because we had been telling him, like, you know, you're hard, you're hard, but you got to shoot some videos, shoot some videos, we kind of really forced it on him, because he really wanted to send it, and I was like, hey, okay, man, we're going to go ahead and do it. We shot a deal, as soon as the video dropped, we got something. So, what was that conversation like afterwards? Was that something like, I told you so? I told you so, but I told you. I told you so. Now, okay, anything else here about one another? Is there anything else you want to say here about Bill Berg? Is there anything, Bill, you want to say about Berg before we wrap this up and move on to another topic here? Well, now I want to dive in your origin story here a bit and get to know, especially those in the audience that are wondering, where the heck did you come from? Is this a mystery? Are you an industry plant? You were just planted here and came out of nowhere, or, you know, what's going on here? So, let's start from the very beginning, okay, and take the audience all the way back. Now, for those in the audience, getting to know you here for the very first time, care to share where you were born. And care to share where you were raised as well. And does it get any more specific than Bainbridge for you? I know some cities, some areas, some people will claim this or claim that. Does it get any more specific or just Bainbridge here? Yeah, you know, I be running around all through the, you know, my favorite area. And care to share where you reside these days. Was there a time when you actually left Bainbridge, you moved out of Bainbridge? Yeah, I moved out of my city. I ain't moved out of my city yet. Just doing more traveling these days and things of that nature. Yeah, I be on the road. Now, for you, let's say there's some in the audience that never heard of Bainbridge, but maybe they're familiar with Atlanta, Georgia, or Athens, Georgia. Care to share how far of a distance, or Augusta, Georgia. Care to share the driving distance between Bainbridge and some of these areas I just noted here. Three, four hours away from Atlanta, so a nigga had to hit the road, road to come up uphill, but you know what I'm saying, like, Famous Country is for, like, it's a city, like, you know what I'm saying. Now, if Atlanta's four hours away, is there a city as big as Atlanta that's even closer to you than four hours where you're at, or is Atlanta the closest major hub, major city? Really, like, down to all the major cities, like, a couple hours away from where we at, you know, the thing, you know, that's close to us, that's, like, kind of like a big city, Tallahassee, but, you know, that really ain't that big, especially compared to Atlanta, so. That is the capital of Florida, though, at this point, and how much of a driving distance is that, Bainbridge and Tallahassee? Like, 30, 40 minutes, like, 30, 40 minutes drive, not too far. Now, you gave a brief glimpse of what Bainbridge is like before I could even ask you the question, so now I'm going to formally ask you, and if you feel like you answered it already, we'll move on to some other questions, but if not, I do want you to go a little bit more in-depth. What was that really like growing up in Bainbridge for you? Can you paint that picture for those in the audience? Growing up in Bainbridge, it's just like, you know, you're trying to find your way, like, you know what I'm saying? It really, it was, it was people to look up to, but, you know, really, like, most of the OGs, you know, older niggas in the street, they really were, you know, getting out of jail, or someone died and shit, so, you know, we really was just looking up to, like, you know, niggas that we fought with in the street, you know, big bro, you know, fam, shit like that. Now, for you, what was the top point for you growing up in that environment? What was maybe your highest point, or most positive moment growing up in that area for you? Oh, my most positive moment. Yeah, was there a point you look back in your life and you were really happy about? Was there a time in your life growing up in that environment? Yeah, I feel like, um, I got into it with my auntie one time, and, you know, we, um, we parted ways, because I was staying with her and shit like that. I think I was probably about, uh, 16, some shit like that, and, um, yeah, we parted ways, but I went and stayed with my dolls and shit, and I feel like that right there changed my life. Like, I probably would have been a whole different type of person, you know what I'm saying? Did it change your life for the better, or for the worse? I mean, look at me, shit. I feel like it changed me for the better. Now, what was the, uh, this aunt, was she on the, uh, mother side of your family, or father side? On my own mother side. And was this a relationship that was able to get repaired at some point, or, uh, since the parting of ways, it is what it is? Yeah, we did. You just, you know how it is when you're young and shit, you know, you, you know, in and out the streets, and, you know, doing shit you want to do, like, you know what I'm saying? And she trying to be overprotective of a nigga, like, you know, nigga might be outside coming in about one, two, you know, a nigga young and still in school and shit, like, she, she wasn't really having that, like, she'll let a nigga hang and shit, but, you know, you know, it was just some shit you couldn't do. Well, asking here because, you know, even with that brief description you just presented, sometimes rifts between family members never get repaired, and, uh, sometimes it takes one person to be the bigger person in said relationship, so how did the relationship eventually get repaired to the way it is now? Was it her coming to an understanding and, uh, you know, being the bigger person here, or maybe you on your end? Nah, it really went like, you know what I'm saying? It went like, fuck my auntie or her, fuck me type shit. It was just like, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you wanted to, you think you grown? Okay, go be grown. So, shit, I just love, like, I could have came back type shit, but it's like, once I leave, it's like, I don't want to go back. I got to show her, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can handle myself. I can be a man, and so that's what I did, you know what I'm saying? I still went to school and shit, you know? I was just with my, my partners and shit, so, you know. Would you consider yourself homeless at that point after, uh, you leave your auntie, or no? You were just, okay. Nah, fuck nah, like, my dog, like, I went, I, my dog stayed right down the road, man. I walked down the road with all my bags, I went back, I, I carried my bed down on my head, like, I had a, um, I had, like, a, um, I want to say, I don't, I don't want to say no twin, I think it was, like, a full-size mattress, shit like that. I carried that bitch on my head, like, down the road, type shit, like, I went home, and, yeah, nah. Now, aside from that, you know, ask you what your top point growing up was, would you consider music a top point for you at all as well, or no? I think I did, like, from that point right there, led up to me, like, becoming this, this artist, and, you know what I'm saying? The person I am. Now, for you, why music? Because there are some that get into, uh, athletics, sports, other side of arts, like, acting, things of that nature, so on and so forth. Why music? Shit, I played, like, football, like, in middle school, like, around, like, seventh grade and shit, but, you know, ain't nobody really never come to, like, my games and shit and support it. So, you know, a motherfucker ain't supporting shit you're doing, you ain't gonna want to do it. So, like, my people ain't behind that, you know what I'm saying? So, shit, I, I fucked around, and I was, like, in seventh grade, I fucked around, and, um, I had got hurt playing football, and I was at home, like, most of the time, you know what I'm saying? And smoking, just doing shit, drinking and shit, and, you know, I ain't want to play sports no more after that. I wanted to smoke. I wanted to smoke weed and shit, too, man. Now, any regret on that looking back? Do you wish, you know, of course, you're a recording artist now, and things are a lot different than what they were back then, but, you know, sometimes people have regrets. Do you look back and wish that you would have kept going with football? Is that something you could have maybe gotten, uh, uh, scholarships for if you would have kept going? Maybe could have been in the NFL at some point had you gone that direction, or, uh, no regrets? Maybe you could have gotten some regrets there on how things ended just with that sport. Yeah, there ain't no regrets. I mean, like, in my city, you don't really, don't none of the, ain't really none of this shit going on like possible. Like, this rap shit, niggas ain't blowing in no rap. Um, niggas barely going to the NFL. Niggas go to, like, look, colleges and shit. Niggas might go to the college, you know, basketball, the same shit. Like, man, ain't, ain't shit going. I ain't gonna lie, we got, we got a couple athletes that done went to college and done been in the NFL for my city, but it's like, you know, that's, that's probably three people out of a million, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this shit ain't going on like that. I don't know. So, you know, I ain't regretting shit. What was the football injury back then? Um, I tore a muscle in my knee. Um, I tore my, my meniscus. I tore, tore my muscle in my knee and shit. Um. Was that something you fully recovered from at this point? Nah, hell nah. That bitch still be popping and aching and shit is cold and shit. That shit be hurting. Why is it like that? Did you not get the proper medical attention back then? Did you not properly recover and pay attention to the recovery process and the rules and guidelines and things of that nature? Or that's just how things are at this point? Nah, I mean, it ain't bad, but shit, you know, it could be better and shit. I probably just gotta work out a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that, get my muscles and shit stronger. But that shit been years ago, so like, I ain't studying that shit. What position was it that you played back then as well? Um, I played running back and line back then. And did you have a main jersey number back then? Nah, I think, you know, the position I played, they gave you normally like 20 or some shit, 21. And did you actually play football? Did you play for the school back then at 7th grade? Or was that like an outside league? Yeah, I played for Beverly Middle School. That was the middle school. And did you play in any other leagues aside from that organization there? Hell nah, after that shit, it was over. But did you do like pee-wee before and stuff like that? Yeah, nigga played pee-wee and shit when we was young. Like, yeah, like, yeah, yeah. And curious here as well, you know, even though you stopped at the 7th grade level, did you have the opportunity to play with or compete against anybody that ended up becoming famous themselves in that sport? Not really. Like, I think growing up, when we played, I think, like, you know, middle school, we used to practice. I mean, the 7th and 8th grade, we used to practice against each other sometimes. I think I think it was a couple people. I know somebody I graduated with went to college. They played for Tennessee. And Damian Pierce went to the NFL, too. He graduated the year before me. Did you ever have the opportunity to play with him or compete against him at all, though? Nah, hell nah. They was in older grades. He was in older grades, so I ain't never played with him. Did you have any personal connection with him at all growing up, or it was just you just knew him from, you know, his name and things of that nature in school? Nah, we never really had no personal relationship. I done been around him, like, you know, in different places and shit, but nah, we never really just been cool as fuck. And aside from these two individuals, aside from sports and athletics, did any of your classmates end up becoming well-known or famous themselves, whether it was the middle school you attended or high school or so on and so forth? Nah, shit ain't really going on like that, I don't know. And how far did you end up getting with your education as well, by the way? I graduated high school. I graduated. Care to share the name of the high school? It was Bama's High School. But I finished my school shit at night school, but, you know, it's part of the same shit. So curious here, was it a GED you actually get or a diploma? I got my diploma. Okay. Just had to put some extra work into getting that completed. Nah, that shit was easy. Like, night school, they really like some shit. Like, all the kids that be in trouble and shit, they have you at, like, a whole nother school, but you still, like, you know, you still a Bama's High School student. They just got you isolated from all the other kids and shit. But that shit was easy as fuck, though. Like, you just sitting in front of the computer copying and pasting shit. Some little simple shit. So. I really finished school, like, a couple months, like, probably about four, five months before I, or it was even time to graduate and shit. And is that as far as your education got? Was just the high school ever? Or did you pursue anything further than that, like a trade school or college or university, so on and so forth? Nah, that's all I ever did. And why'd you stop at that level of education there? Why not go any further, perhaps? I don't know. I wanted to be a welder and shit. You know how you be doing that shit in school where, you know, they be having you ready for your little trade and shit like that when you graduate. But, you know, I was living another lifestyle, too, outside of all the school shit. So I really wouldn't focus on all that shit. I was just trying to goddamn find a way to get me some money back then. Nigga wanted to be fresh as fuck, you know, fucking all the little shit, you know, around this bitch. So nigga was just trying to get some money, like, nigga went on all that college shit. Yeah. Now, when it comes to music, why music, though? Why did you end up picking up music? You mentioned that, you know, you had the football injury, and you started chilling and smoking and drinking and things of that nature, but still did not answer the question, why music? Because some don't even get that far. They are chilling, smoking, drinking, and doing that lifestyle, but they don't necessarily get into music. Yeah. Nah, one of my dawgs, he was going to the studio, you know, and shit like that, and I just fucked around and went with him one day. Fucked around and got on a song, and after that, it was just like, "Shit, but I want to go do this shit every day." But I ain't never really just do it every day. I was on some on-and-out shit, you know what I'm saying? I ain't, you know, sometimes a nigga go record, a nigga might not record for a couple months later. You know, I went, I still ain't fell in love with this shit all the way. I was there again though. But this is a career path for you at this point. You do consider yourself with a music career, or in a music career, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, why go that route? Why, you know, because sometimes music is just a hobby for some people. Like you mentioned, you're not all the way in love with it, or have a love for it all the way. You know, you're still getting there at this point, but you know, for some people, it just is a hobby. Something they do on the side, they may have a passion for it, but again, it's just something they do on the side. It doesn't become a career path for them. So why take it there on that type of trajectory? Was it trying to go legit, as you mentioned before previously? Was it the record deal that got you to turn this into a career path? Or maybe a different reason here. I mean, yeah, like the record deal, you know, make it like a career. It's not for a nigga, but you know, other than that, like at the beginning of this shit, a nigga really was just doing this shit, you know, for something to do with it. It's like over the years, niggas got better and better, and you know, my people fucking with it. You know, I'm starting to get my shit played in different cities. You know, different cities fucking with me and shit. So that shit going to push me to keep going, but you know, shit ain't ready to just pop off until I shot that video, so yeah. And say the name of that song. Dirty Money. That's right. That's correct. You mentioned in a previous conversation, but just in case those are tuning into this portion, just wanted to remind them here as well. Now, do you remember how you were introduced to that genre of music? Hip-hop, rap? From the very beginning, do you recall how you even got into that genre there? Did someone put you onto it? Did you find it? Did you take the audience back? You know, I'm from the South, so you know. The radio, you know what I'm saying? 96.3, you know, just listen to the radio. People around, like, you know, I always hung around the older generation anyway, so you know what I'm saying? It's just, you know, listen to music, ride other folks, and yeah. And also, was this the first genre of music you ever encountered in your life, or perhaps was it a different genre of music you encountered when it came to music, period? No, you know, like. Shit, I done heard, I done listened to all type of music, like, even staying with my people, my auntie done, like, waking up early in the morning, then got the old school music playing, cooking, cleaning, like, all type of shit, so yeah, I done listened to all that. What type of artists or what type of song titles do you recall back in those days being played? I ain't gonna lie, like, I don't really remember a lot of names and shit like that, you know what I'm saying? I'm the type of nigga, I just type in cookout music or some shit like that. Slow jams, you know, sex music, I type on, I type anything on YouTube. And what about on the hip-hop or rap side of things? Do you recall any of the prominent artists that you grew up to, or any song titles there, perhaps? Um, nigga listened to, uh, there's a lot of artists a nigga listened to growing up, really, like, you know. I really feel like when I really, really started listening to, um, rap a lot, though, was like the Chief Keef, um, Yonto. Pee-wee Longway era, you know, Rich Homie, you know, a nigga listened to Gucci, Jeezy, you know what I'm saying? Then you got Youngboy came out of nowhere, Kodak, you know, um, 21 Savage, just different artists, you know what I'm saying? I'm from Georgia, so, you know, I got a, I get a, I get a, I'm from South Georgia, so I get a, I get a mix of Florida, you know, a mix of, you know, North, North Georgia, you know what I'm saying? Really, Atlanta, because that's where I ought to, you know, most of them. That's where the music came from. And do you feel like, because you kind of had both worlds, like the Florida and Georgia world, do you feel like that made you more of a well-rounded listener or recording artist and things of that nature? It really ain't got nothing to do with the music. I feel like probably my environment, or like, where a nigga from and shit, and like, what do you see every day, you know what I'm saying? And any other memories of those humble beginnings for you, aside from growing up and listening to it? Were you in talent shows at all? Were you in open mics and things of that nature? I'm just throwing out some things. You might have some other things to say, but any other humble memories or humble beginnings there for you during your early stages getting into this? Nah, I really wasn't really into all that shit, you know. It was running around the hood, playing and shit, being bad as fuck, stealing bicycles and shit, you know. And, you know, at this point, do you write? Or freestyle and punch in on the recording artist side of things? Nah, when I first started rapping, though, I was writing. Like, when I first went to the studio, bro did his part of the song, wrote up me some shit, and it's like, after that, I started writing. Then, I want to say probably about last year is when I really just started punching in. Like, I started getting better and better and better. So, do you consider yourself doing both at this point? Or strictly freestyle punching in? Yeah, it's like, well, shit, I record myself now when I go to the studio. So, I'm right there in front of the microphone just punching in. Like, I ain't even, I ain't even on, I ain't writing nothing. Now, let's sidestep with that. When it came to recording yourself, how did you pick up that skill? Because not every recording artist does. Um, Bird and my engineer on top. I really watch Bird sometimes, and then I watch my engineer. But, you know, I just, I just know, like, recording myself. I don't really know how to mix myself and all that. But I know how to on record and shit. And, uh, on the, uh, punching inside of things, what got you to punch in, uh, in the very beginning? So, for example, was that, uh, just natural experimentation for you? Or were you influenced to start punching in at some point? Oh, I want to say last year sometime, I, I started learning how to on work like the little garage band on your, on your, on your Apple phone. So, it's like, shit ain't no need to write this shit when I can just sit here in front of my phone and just, you know, punch this bitch in bar for bar. And I, um, I started doing that. And what I do is, when I do it, like, I might not go to the studio for probably about two, three weeks. So, I might remember, I might make the song on the garage band, punch it in and shit, and I'll memorize the whole song. I just go to the studio and do it like that. But it's like, nah, I ain't got to do that no more because I can just sit in the studio and just write. I record myself, ain't no sense in doing it off the phone. feel like that little shit right there helped me, you know, like learn and punch in a way better. And, you know, just curious here, what do you think's been your biggest song at this point in your catalog of music? Oh, I feel like that Dirty Money is one of the biggest ones, but you know, I ain't gonna lie, it's a lot of, it's a lot of females, they fucked up by that, that Sandwich Bags, that Sandwich Bags I got, and it's the song I've been dropped like last year sometime, Different, I think Different and Pinnacle, I got a couple songs that they just, you know. But what do you think's the biggest at this point in your catalog, at the very top of the list there? Yeah, I know Dirty Money is the number one, that's up there at the top. When it comes to Dirty Money, thinking all the way back to that time in your life there, was that something that was written or punched in? No, see I made that song like last year sometime, so I punched that shit on my phone, I punched that shit in on my phone, and then the crazy thing about it, I did like 30, I punched that bitch in like 30 seconds, but it was like a different type of beat than what I was normally rapping on, and I sent that to like Berg and a couple of my partners, and when I sent it to Berg, Berg was like, I was like, bro tell me if I need to switch it up or change it up type shit, that nigga called me, that nigga was like, bro that's sick right though, you need to, I'm finna book you a studio session, like you finna come do that type shit, so I just went and did that bitch, and shit, that was it. And because your biggest song so far, Dirty Money, was punched in, does that also encourage you to continue to punch in as well? Hell yeah, like I punch in all the time, like you know what I'm saying, you know, it ain't really hard, you know what I'm saying, but I ain't gonna lie, like just say like if I'm on the road or something, or I'm doing something, you know, sometimes I get beats and shit from different producers and shit, they send me beats or something, and I might be listening to it on the road, and I came up with some shit, but you know, I don't want to lose it, so I write three, four notes down, and then I go. I go from there whenever I go to the studio, just a little jump start type shit, I go to the next beat, do the same thing, basically come up with like three, four bars, start a hook, then go on to the next beat, like just on some recording process type shit. Now, we talked about the top point during your upbringing. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I know previously you mentioned looking up to OGs and things of that nature, sometimes they would pass away. Sometimes they would pass away. We'd go to jail and get incarcerated, things of that nature, but if that wasn't the answer here to this next question, I want to know what is. What was the bottom point for you during your upbringing in Bainbridge? What was your lowest point or most negative moment growing up in that environment for you? There's really a lot of fuck shit going on, man. You just, you can't let shit break you, I ain't gonna lie, like I done been through a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, from my house getting broken into, just you know, different shit like that, taking losses in the street, you know, I got locked up, like just different type of shit like that, like just a lot of shit a nigga had to overcome, but that's just part of this lifestyle anyway, you know, fuck shit happen, can't let that shit, can't show a motherfucker your weakness, you know what I'm saying? Everything that happened to a nigga, you know, I overcame it, I feel like, and still gonna, you know, anything. Come my way, I feel like, you know what I'm saying, ain't nothing can stop a nigga or hold a nigga back. Now, when it comes to getting locked up and things of that nature, what was the longest stint you've done in carcering? That was my first time getting locked up, I'm still out on burn and shit, but yeah, I wasn't nothing in that bitch's number, like four days in that bitch. Okay, so fighting a case on the outside at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But curious here, as we wind up. Wind down the questions about your upbringing, you know, all those experiences that you had on the negative side of things, growing up in Bainbridge, you know, mentally, has this been something you sought any professional help over? You know, some of these experiences can be traumatic for some people, and they do go that route, and for others, for whatever reason, they don't. For you? Um. Not that I really know of, but. Would you say it again? Can you say that one more time? Mentally speaking, you know, has all the negative experiences you dealt with, you mentioned you've overcome them, but has that been something you ever sought any professional help over? Like, a mental health professional of some sort? Nah, nah, I ain't never really, I don't think I ever had, like, no mental health, none of that shit. And why not, looking back? Some people do go that route for some of the experiences that you garnered. But, man, I don't, I don't think I needed all that, uh, you know, it is what it is, move on, take a lick and move on. Now, how were you able to survive that upbringing in Bainbridge, looking back, zooming out? Because, you know, as you mentioned, some people have passed away. They don't make it. How did you do it? What was your key, perhaps? What was the secret to surviving Bainbridge and. I'm 24 today, sitting in this chair in front of the audience. It's really just, like, who you be around and shit, like, you know, who you hang around, who want the best for you, you know what I'm saying? Really, everybody that I hung around with, hustlers and shit, so, you know, I'm watching what they doing. They trying to get some money, I'm trying to get some money. Now, there are some people who say things like, don't know if I'll make it to see the age of 18, 21, 25, so on and so forth. Were you. Were you ever one of the type of people that said that sort of thing to yourself at all? Nah, I don't be into all that shit. I don't do all that shit. I just. I just wake up and go, man. Wake up and go. And be that as it may, hypothetically speaking here, what would you have said to your younger self back then, if anything? Shit, nothing really. Like, I always was quiet, and I watched shit as I heard shit, so, you know what I'm saying? Like, I really, like, I learned lessons by watching other motherfuckers, so, I know how to move, like, I know what to do. I know how to carry myself. And, you know, do you still find yourself with that same mentality? Are you still, like, you know, quiet or one of the quietest in the room, observing and things of that nature? Or have you broken out of that at this point? Nah, I still be quiet and observing, but as you know, it's sometimes when you gotta, you know, you gotta be quiet. You gotta talk your shit. It's sometimes when you gotta, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, I don't be on all that shit. I just be on some laid-back, chill shit, like, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't gonna let nothing come between this business and this money. Like, well, if it's anything like that, I'm here first about it, but other than that, I'm just laid-back, you know, peeping the vibe, you know what I'm saying? Now, that sounds very innocent, being laid-back and chill and quiet and things of that nature, but have people. Have people ever take those characteristics for weakness? Have people ever took that as, hey, maybe you're Hollywood or big-headed or because you're not, you know, the quietest in the room, maybe you think you know everything? Have people ever had these thoughts either way here? I mean, shit, they probably have, but ain't nobody let me know nothing. So, you know, I ain't understand what nobody else think. It is what it is. Man, I asked you a lot of questions here about your upbringing. Is there anything else? You'll want to mention about it. You know, we touched the top point, the bottom point. I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceberg of some of the items you shared with the audience here and giving a glimpse into your upbringing, but is there anything else you want to mention in regards to it while we're on the subject here still? Oh, I'm not really good. And also, you know, curious here, I know you mentioned your aunt, and I believe you said it was on the mother's side of your family. Yeah. You didn't mention your mother in this conversation. You didn't mention your father in this conversation. That's okay. But curious, what is your status with either of these people in your life at this point? Yeah, my aunt, my mama aunt, she got killed when I was three. My father killed my mama when I was three. So, you know, it ain't really no relationship, though. And as far as the status of your father at this point, is that something he was incarcerated for and things of that nature? Yeah, he's still locked up. Got it. Is there anything else you want to say in regards to that, losing your mother at that age in your life or that whole scenario there or so on and so forth? I mean, shit, not really. I mean, if you hear what it is in life, like, I can't do nothing about it. Were you present? Or were you there when it took place? Or was that something that happened away from you at the time? I don't think I was around. I think my sister was probably around or some shit, but I wasn't around. I was like. I was three years old, so I probably was – somebody probably would babysit me or some shit. Now, I do want to ask you this just on the subject of this nature, and this will be the last question about it. But losing practically your parents, right, at that young age, your mother because she was killed, your father for doing said crime there and things of that nature and committing that, what do you – circumstances could be different for everyone. You had your aunt in your life, maybe some others, but what do you say to those that are dealt with those cards, so to speak, in life, losing their parents or their mother at that young of an age? Is there anything you want to say to those in the audience that may be going through something similar, might have not lost their parents at three, could have been five years old or seven years old, but they don't have their parents in their life similar to you in a sense? Is there anything you want to say to those out there that may have gone through something similar? Yeah, I mean, you can't just – you can't, you know, be depressed about it. You can't let it, you know, stop your life, you know. It's going to hurt, but shit, you know, you just got to keep going. That's what I did, you know. But, you know, shit like that will fuck somebody up, like, you know, really will fuck you up mentally if you ain't – you know, your mind ain't strong enough. I feel like it probably would have fucked me up, too. But by me being so young, it's like I ain't really had no feelings for none one of them because I ain't got no memories of it. So, like, I ain't got no memories of them, so. And understandably so, still, has your father ever tried to reach out or communicate to you to try to establish some sort of relationship or because there's no – I mean, just curious here, is there – Yeah, well, he tried to reach out to me on – to me through my own. My people on his side, my uncle and shit, but, you know, I ain't – no, I don't want to talk, like, you know what I'm saying? You are sporting a variety of items during this interview. You know, before we go on any further, can you detail the items that you're currently wearing? You've got the teeth, we've got something around the neck, we've got something around the wrist. This is the honeycomb set right here. This is the VVS. He's a two-pointer. Yeah, yeah, rose gold. He's got a two-tone rosey, you know what I'm saying? He's got the rose gold cube, buzz lock, 22. Yeah. Anything on the other wrist there, hidden under the – okay, nothing on there. Well, let's dissect this a little bit further. You did shed some light with the details. About the teeth here. But before we dive a little bit deeper, respectfully asking you this next question. Yeah. Are these pull-outs or perms? Nah, these are perms. These are perms. And why go that route? Because some do the pull-out thing. Why perms for you? I ain't finna spend all this money and have a step. Can't do that. Might fuck around a loser. My girl might get mad at me and throw them bitches away. Anything. Can't go that route. And care to share the jeweler you went for this as well? And what part of the world is he located in? And why him, of all people, to do your teeth? Because there's other jewelers out there. They really just my little starter kit. This ain't – I don't go crazy. Just to give me time, I just win the deals and shit just to pop it real fast. I mean, ain't that amazing? And, you know, when it comes to the rest of your jewelry here, what about the chain and the watch? Same jeweler in Miami for both of these or different jewelers here? This right here, I got this here on New York. And this right here, like, a 50 ball. My dog gave me this. So that was a gift. Yeah, yeah. Do you recall what the gift was for? See, just part of a nigga. Just part of a nigga. Right here was some crazy shit. So this right here, this right here cost me, like, 23. I want to say, like, 23, 24,000. I got this out of New York. And what about the teeth? Do you recall the price of the teeth? I spent, like – I spent a 10 on these, 10,000. Now, when it comes to the watch, you mentioned this is a Rolex. You mentioned a two-tone. Does it get any more specific there, like a particular model of Rolex or – I don't even know. I got all the paperwork and shit. I don't know that bitch, though. But, shit, I just put that bitch on. When I was in New York, went up there to see Jeff, though. Then dropped the – soon as the nigga signed, nigga dropped a 24 on this bitch. Yeah, yeah. And why that watch, that brand, that model in particular? There's some that go Audemars. There's some that go this. There's some that go that. Why Rolex for you? Yeah, I just drop. I feel like, you know, the Rolex, like, I feel like, you know, it never go out of style, out of date. You know, they got all these fake-ass Cartier. All these fake-ass watches going around, and shit. All these fake-ass watches going around. So, I just drop the Rolex. My dog was telling me, too, to my boy, you need to go Rolex. That's hard. So, I just went Rolex. And Jeff is in reference to Jeff Vaughn, the CEO of the record label, the imprint you're on. You also have this on your left wrist. Any meaning behind the left wrist for you? Why it's on your left wrist, not your right? The why. You talking about the why? Yeah, the watch, yeah. Shit, I'm going to have another one over here soon. So, just stay tuned. It's going to be one on both wrists. Curious here, though. Are you naturally right-handed or left-handed? No, I'm right-handed. And this two-tone watch, as you mentioned, is also custom or bust-down, as some say in the business. Some just do factory setting or plain Jane. But that's also a debate when it comes to watches. There are some say, some that go. The custom bust-down route, some that go the factory plain Jane route. Where do you stand on that debate? There's pros and cons and people for both sides here. So, why bust-down for you? Shit, it's just like a little trophy. It's like, you know, some shit that, you know, niggas won't. Niggas ain't got. Like, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, motherfuckers going to wear what they want to wear. Plain, bust. Shit, you know what I'm saying? I might get stashed with some plain shit one day. You know, I ain't, you know. Now, you aren't sporting some other items of jewelry. I don't know if you have these pieces, too. You just didn't care to wear them during this interview for whatever reason. But do want to ask you your opinion on them. Bracelets. You're not wearing a bracelet during this interview. What's your opinion on bracelets? Yeah, all that shit go with it. All that shit go with you, kid. It just depends on, like, where you're going, how you want to step by the puppet. Rings as well. You're not sporting any rings during this interview? Yeah, I ain't really, I ain't really fell into the ring shit yet. You know, I ain't got that yet, you know what I'm, that's some shit I got to get used to, so. But a bracelet might be something you indulge in the future on. Yeah, I got, I got two bracelets and shit. I got two bracelets. I spent, like, um, $2,500. They're, like, some little smaller teenage bracelets, though. $2,500 on them bitches. And what about earrings? No earrings during this interview? How do you feel about earrings? Yeah, I ain't putting no holes in my ear and shit. You know, I ain't really on no pretty white shit. Shit, though, that. Never had your ears pierced? No, that ain't, that ain't, that ain't me. Now, for you, in the future, is it a never-ever? The audience will never, ever see you get your ears pierced or a sporting earring. If my bitch say she want to see me with some earring and some shit, I'll do it to make her. But if I ain't feel it, I'm going to take that shit out and let her whole clothes back up. It's just how I feel. I got to see, like, I got a picture. I got to see myself. With the earring. Now, I know you mentioned a few jewelers here and things of that nature. But just for transparency, are you sponsored by any of these jewelers, brands, or establishments mentioned in this portion of questions? I ain't sponsored by nobody. So let me ask you this, then. Now, you have roughly $100,000 on your body during this interview. You mentioned $50,000 around the neck. You mentioned, like, $24,000 around the wrist. You mentioned $10,000 in your mouth. You have two tennis bracelets not pictured during this interview, $2,500 a piece. You know, that's an easy $100,000 just in jewelry there, right? But, you know, for someone in the audience that doesn't have any jewelry yet, what does that feel like wearing almost $100,000 on your body at one time? I mean, shit. Is there a feeling towards that? It feels good. It makes you look good and shit like that. But, you know, do what you can. You ain't got to buy the jewelry, you know, go buy you a house or some shit, buy you a car. You ain't got to, you know, do what you can afford to do. And speaking of some of these items, real estate, auto vehicles, things of that nature, do you ever look at your jewelry in those terms as well? Like, you have a plot of land. on your wrist, you have an auto vehicle, around your neck. Do you ever look at your items of jewelry like in those type of terms at all? Yeah, hell yeah, nigga. Nigga gotta, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, nigga look at that shit like that all the time. But, you know, I don't really be on all that shit. And what is your opinion on those who purchase jewelry first instead of the real estate or the auto vehicle? Shit, they do it with the fuck they want to do shit. It's their shit, you know what I'm saying? They print this shit every day, so shit, you spend it, you always go back and get it. It might not be the same way you got it the first time, but, you know, plenty of ways to get this shit. What was the order for you, personally speaking? Were you one to get the jewelry first and these items later in your life, or did you get those items first and then the jewelry later? Shit, I did a bunch of shit. I did a bunch of shit, like, you know what I'm saying? But I ain't really on, I ain't really bought no land and shit like that, you know, because I wasn't really waiting, I don't really know where I want to stay at forever, so. And a couple other questions here when it comes to jewelry. Do you ever look at jewelry for males like makeup for females or a BBL that females get? Do you ever look at jewelry in those terms? Not really, but bitches don't give a fuck about you having no jewelry on. Bitches don't give a fuck about that. They give a fuck about if a nigga gonna spend some money on some shit, or really even that, because, you know, some bitches got their own jewelry. They got their own bag, so, you know, some females got their own bag, so that shit don't even matter. So, don't go and buy jewelry and think, oh, this is gonna help you fuck a million hoes. Nah, you might fuck 10, 20 on about that million, but you ain't finna, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, when it comes to diamonds, there's also a debate on that. You know, for some, naturally mined diamonds is what they wear. And, like, for example, 50,000 on your chain sounds like these are naturally mined diamonds on this piece here. But, there's also lab-grown diamonds that some are purchasing at this point as well. So, where do you stand on that debate of naturally mined diamonds versus lab-grown or lab-created diamonds? I ain't gonna lie to you, you gotta go natural, you gotta go VVS, you know. You know, you gotta go all the way with it. But, you know, if a motherfucker wanna take the short cut, you know, take the short cut, go the cheaper route, you know, that's what I'm doing. They money, you know, half of the time you can't tell anyway. So, I don't think it really matter. But, for you, never done the lab-grown, lab-created diamonds, things of that nature? Nah, I ain't never do that. Alright. Well, I asked you a lot of questions on the subject of jewelry. Is there anything else you want to add on that topic before we move on to anything else? Nah, not really. And just, to zoom out, okay, just as an outro here, you know, ask you a lot of questions here, from everything, from, you know, a few topics on the music side of things, to your origin story and things of that nature. When it comes to your fans, your supporters, your followers, so on and so forth, is there anything else you were not asked, they really want to know? Oh, I got a tape droppin' on. I got a tape comin' soon. It's supposed to be out sometime in December when it came out with the dates and shit, yeah, but, you know, that shit comin' together. And this is going to be your debut project, your debut solo project. Yeah, for sure. Currently, you have a project with P. Berg on the side of you, but that's a joint collaborative effort. This will be your first solo project. Is there a title you want to share with the audience at this point for that effort? Yeah, I'm going 90-day run, man. It's been 90 days since a nigga been signed, so, you know, going 90-day run, it's been like a 90-day run for me with the music journey. And that title there, was that something that you created yourself or someone coined for you? I really was going with a different title, but one of the songs on my tape is called 90-day run, and so Jeff hit me with like, hey, Bill, you might as well go with the 90-day run, you know? So we just started with that. Now, you mentioned no date yet, but sometime in December 2025, do you want to share any features, if there are any features on this yet? Nah, all these are just me on the. Solo effort here. Yeah, solo. And because this is going to be your solo debut as well, is there any stress or pressure you're feeling at this point with your first project here? Nah, I ain't stressed out about nothing. I'm ready to drop, like, honestly. I'm ready to go in and get it out to other people. You know, they be begging. They be. They be saying all type of shit to a motherfucker, so I'm just ready to give them what they want. Now, you know, when it comes to this conversation, again, I asked you a lot of questions. Is there anything in this conversation, this interview, that you want to add on to what you've said? Is there anything, perhaps, you want to subtract from what you said? Nah, but I do want to say this one thing, though. Man, my name ain't A.G. and S. Bill, not Agnes Bill. You know, they be saying that Agnes shit. They be making shit up, like, Agnes. Shit ain't even. That ain't even a sign, right? But, yeah, it's A.G. and S. Bill. So, have they been mispronouncing this name, or have they been misspelling this stage name? I think it might. I don't know about misspelling, you know, but I know they be all mispronouncing it sometimes, but, you know, some people know, some people don't, so I'll just let it be known. I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? But. And speaking of spelling as well, on DSPs, this is one phrase. There's no space between, you know, the acronym and Bill. Why is it spelled the way it does? Like, why no spaces in that? Because sometimes, I can see one putting a space between both. Yeah, you can put the spaces, but, I mean, you know, you ain't really gotta do all that. It's A.G. and S. Like, I don't even know why you would try to make it a word. It's just A.G. and S. Well, A.G. and S. Bill. It's one word, no space on DSPs. Yeah, A.G. and S. Bill. And, uh, when it comes to, um, this, uh, stage name as well, uh, care to share the meaning behind it? You've already shared what A.G. and S. means, particularly previously, but what about Bill? Where does that come from, or what's the meaning behind that in the stage name as well? Sure, that's just what my people call me. Like, I've been Bill for a couple years now, so we just start with A.G. and S. Bill. All ground shit. Not, not a real name or a government name, here, or anything of that nature. Nah, hell nah. Okay. Just curious. And, uh, you know, you mentioned people have been calling you that. Is there anybody in particular you want to shout out that may have, uh, coined this phrase or this name for you? Nah, hell nah. It's just like when I be in public and shit, you know, motherfuckers might say it. Not, you know, they probably don't know, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I don't really give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? Alright, well, asked you a lot of questions, as I mentioned, uh, once again. Any last words before you leave? Unless what you just said there, was it? Yeah, that was it, man. My, um, my take 90 day run is finna be out soon, so just stay tuned. Got a lot of shit playing coming up. Alright, well, thanks for watching, and I'll see you next time.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The artist identifies as a trap rapper and rarely uses ad-libs in their music, noting that this is a personal choice not widely criticized by fans or labels.
  2. Their breakthrough came from a viral music video for the song "Dirty Money," which led to a bidding war among record labels, including major and independent ones.
  3. They signed with Signal and Columbia Records after evaluating multiple offers, choosing the deal due to its financial support, cultural relevance in South Georgia, and the opportunity to represent their community.
  4. The artist emphasizes a hands-on, grassroots approach to music, frequently punching in verses on their phone before studio sessions, and credits early influences like Chief Keef, YoungBoy, and Gucci Mane.
  5. Key collaborations include tracks with Boss Man D-Lo, Rubber Band OG, ABGR (Lil' Corey), and Ballad Baby, with some releases already out and others still in development.
  6. Despite a challenging upbringing in Bainbridge, Georgia, marked by crime, incarceration, and instability, the artist credits survival to surrounding positive influences and a mindset of self-reliance.
  7. They maintain a simple, grounded identity without formal fan groups or elaborate branding, focusing instead on authenticity and personal growth.
  8. The artist values mentorship and real friendships, defining a real friend as someone who holds them accountable while offering unwavering support.

Summary:

" This led to a bidding war among record labels, culminating in a partnership with Signal and Columbia Records. He emphasizes authenticity, avoiding ad-libs and maintaining a raw, unfiltered creative process—often punching in lyrics on his phone before studio sessions. His music is deeply rooted in local culture and street experiences, shaped by early exposure to Southern hip-hop artists like Chief Keef and YoungBoy.

Key collaborations include work with Boss Man D-Lo, Rubber Band OG, ABGR (Lil' Corey), and Ballad Baby, with some tracks already released. Despite a difficult upbringing marked by incarceration, crime, and family conflict, the artist attributes his survival to surrounding positive influences and a disciplined, observant mindset. He values real, accountable friendships and remains grounded, prioritizing hard work over fame.

His journey reflects resilience, self-reliance, and a commitment to staying true to his roots, with music serving as both a personal outlet and a path to legitimacy in the industry.

FAQs

I'm a trap rapper, focusing on trap music and styles.

No, I don’t use ad-libs. I’ve been consistent in not including them in my songs.

Yes, people have noticed, but there’s no complaint or significant discussion about it from fans or the label.

I'm signed to Signal and Columbia Records.

I dropped a song called 'Dirty Money' and its video went viral after a Florida promo page shared it with a label executive who then helped push it to go viral.

It stands for 'All Grounds,' representing self-reliance and standing strong, with the '1' indicating it's my own, authentic identity.

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