Adopted from Russia, Leaving Mormonism, & Dealing w/ Hate Comments w/ Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff
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Matt and Maddie, a popular TikTok couple, share their heartfelt journey from meeting online to getting married and welcoming their first child. They first connected through a viral Jack Sparrow impression on TikTok, bonding over humor and authenticity before transitioning into a long-distance relationship. After moving to Texas and overcoming family and cultural barriers—including Maddie’s upbringing in a strict Mormon community—both found emotional and spiritual clarity. Their engagement in Greece, where both were proposed to simultaneously, became a symbol of joy and shared happiness. They now face the excitement and challenges of pregnancy, which has brought relief from chronic period pain but also required medical intervention. Their story reflects a deep, genuine connection rooted in shared values, humor, and mutual support. The couple values authenticity and comfort in everyday life, which they highlight through recommendations of brands like Quince and Kindred Bravely—offering high-quality, inclusive clothing and maternity wear. They emphasize that unplanned moments, like pregnancy, can be transformative, and they remain open to life’s unexpected turns. The episode blends personal stories with lifestyle and wellness tips, affirming their journey as both a romantic and life-changing experience.
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The Mormon culture I was raised in. I was at the point where I'm like, I just need to get out. We
just moved in together. What did your mom think? Well, she wasn't for it.
Maddie Henderson and Matt Sharf are a famous TikTok couple that recently announced they're
pregnant with their first baby. We've been doing pull and pray for like the last three or four
years. Gotta be careful with that one. And it started to kind of get in my mind. I'm like,
are we just really good at pulling and praying? It sure is honey. Matt is best known for his
golf channel. Good, good. But most people don't know that he was adopted from an orphanage in
Russia when he was only about five years old. Matt went to the baby orphanage and the big
kid orphanage, you kind of had to fight for what you want. And in the baby orphanage,
the cuter you are, the more the love and attention you get. When you read comments,
are you reading positive stuff? No, I read the negative stuff, Matt, that ruins my life.
Sarcasm does not read online. No, it's horrible. It's just cause he's himself.
They just don't like him.
What's up dudes? And welcome back.
The unplanned podcast, baby. Woo. Yeah. Today we have the honor of talking to Matt and Maddie,
which your names go together so well. People say that a lot. Matt and Maddie. People are like,
it's so easy to remember. And I'm like, I guess. How are you guys feeling? I mean, you have a baby
on the way. You just got married less than a year ago. A lot of big life changes happening for you
guys. We got married almost three years ago. Wait, wait, wait, why did I have it in my notes
that it was literally like last year? It was 2023. You know, I do post about it.
Like, like I'll, I'll do it. It's been a year, it's been two years. And it was like wedding
pictures because people have thought that. Wow. Sure. So it's like you post stuff like it's new,
but it's really from like two years ago. I'm like happy one year. Happy two years.
So you fooled me. I literally, I thought you guys had been married for like six months.
So yeah. Yeah. We're almost coming up on three years in August. Oh my God. Congratulations on
three years of marriage. You guys still like each other. Like how, how is that? Anything? Yeah,
of course we do. Of course we do. So I graduated in 2020. I know I was, I was one of those kids
and graduated in 2020 and we were talking online and COVID happened because he was in Kansas. I was
in Utah. We met online, we were talking and like right after I graduated, I moved to Texas with
him. So we've been living together for almost like six years. Wow. And then we got married
three years ago. Okay. Why did I think you guys were like so much more like established and like
older than us? Like I read today because of that, like that we've known each other for six years.
Yeah. So it feels like we've been married for six years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause we started that process so early. Maybe it's because you have a
beard too. Like I just haven't yet. I've got like a baby face, no beard. So then I read that you
were born in 1999 and I'm like, what? Like I'm, I'm an, I'm a 98 kid. Like I just graduated 2020.
Like I, yeah. And high school. Yeah. Yeah. High school. You graduated high school. I turned 24,
like five days ago. Yeah. And actually his birthday was yesterday. Wow. Okay. So then
we're the same age right now. We're both 27. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Good for you guys. That's crazy.
Yeah. Wild. You guys had kind of a special engagement too. Tell this story. Oh, here we go.
We, um, well we went to Greece. Yeah. That was kind of crazy. All right. Perfect. All right.
Thank you. No, I have to tell you, I knew that. And I have to tell you how I knew that actually.
My brother saw you guys in the airport in Greece. Wait. Yes. And he asked me. We talked about that.
Yes. I know this. Okay. Yeah. Literally I met Abby or you probably had to bully him into saying
anything. Yeah. Oh, I did. My brother's not like this. He's like very introverted. We are actually
really are nothing alike. Yeah. And so the fact that he actually, he like has done this zero
percent of it. Wait, stop it. Yeah. Wait, that's so cute. That was my freaking floss, bro. I remember
those. You guys were so nice. It's the floss and socks. It was so tan. Wait, wait,
what is this outfit you're wearing? I don't even know. I don't even know what the frick I'm wearing,
bro. I don't even know. You got your flip flops and socks on. The Puma socks too. That's funny.
That's so nice. Are those the Costco socks? Yes, of course they are. Let's go. I've been
repping these things for like six years. Everybody has the Puma Costco socks. My mom buys me these
cause she's like mad. Do you think they're the same quality as real Puma? Absolutely not.
Yeah, we'd wear the meek in our shirt. Probably not. That's so cool. That's why I have to keep
buying them. We need to put the picture up on the video for everyone to see
Abby's brother and Matt in Greece. And it was, it was cool. Cause
we actually went with one of our other good friends, Grant Horvat, who also does YouTube
golf and his now wife, Sadie. And so actually they got engaged. I had no idea that Grant and Matt were
planning this like double engagement thing. Cause I thought we were going for her to get engaged and
we were like gonna help out. And they thought they were coming for me to get engaged. And so really
the guys were like, we're in Greece. We're both doing this. This is a movie. So they did it. They
did it like the second or third night or second or third night. I don't remember. And then the
next morning we were like, let's go take photos. Let's have a little photo shoot. And I mean,
you can't go wrong in Santorini, like everywhere is just beautiful. And then, um, then he proposed
and then people even asked me, they're like, was that, does that bother you? That like someone else
got engaged when you got engaged or you got, you know, was that like a problem? And I said,
we were both at the happiest moments. Like it was like peak joy. We just got engaged.
Now we're on a catamaran in Greece. We were both so happy and so happy for each other. It was like
the most, it was, it was amazing. And now here we are a couple of years later, having a baby girl.
That's so cool. Oh girl. So exciting. I know. Did you like all the cats in Greece? There's
like a bazillion cats. Yes. They have cats. The cats were part of the, they were part of the
humans. You'd go to a breakfast joint and then you'd look to your right and there'd be a cat
sitting in a chair with a plate. Like they just got done eating and they had taken a nap. I'm like,
yeah, that's great. They got fed so well. They'll be like, oh, the cat's sleeping. You can't sit
there. Yeah. Like you can't, you can't mess with them. They're like treated like Kings and Queens.
I'm like, good for them. And they're so precious and so cute. And I'm a huge,
well, just animal person in general, but I love cats. And so we have two cats, um,
right now. And I mean, they're just, I always check my ring. Like we have Rover checking
in on them when we're gone. And I just always check my ring and just see what they're doing.
It's like, I know they're like not actual human, like children, but they're the closest I have
right now. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. When you said Rover's checking in on them,
what is that? You never heard of Rover? Wow. Man, you're missing out, man. I don't know. I'm
so confused. So what do you do when you guys go out of town? You put them in boarding? No, we have,
no, no, no. We have, she has her own babysitter. Okay. She comes here and stays with us. That's
pretty much what it is. That's, that's, that's what it is. So you could have someone stay in your home
who could have your animals stay somewhere else, or you can have someone basically check in on your
pets. So we have someone come twice a day. We love her. She's amazing. Sasha. And she comes in twice
a day and checks and plays on, plays with the cats and comes in the morning and then comes in the
evening. No way. Is that like an app? Like a Rover? It's literally called Rover. I have a couple of
friends who work for Rover too. They just go to make some extra cash, go on dog walks. Wow. That's
pretty cool. Should like clip this. This is like a perfect, yeah, this is an easy ad. To be honest,
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in a great way. Our dog honestly likes her dogs that are better than us. How do you feel about
being married to a cat lady? Oh, I love it. I mean, I've been an animal dude my whole life, so I, I,
I love cats. I had cats growing up, had dogs growing up. So I freaking love it. See, we almost
got one like a couple of weeks ago. Cause our three-year-old is like, well, he's just randomly
will say stuff. And then when he says it, like, I just, we love our kids. So I just, I want to
give him the world. He's like, I want a cat named, uh, what did he say? He was, I want a cat named
Thor. Thor. He's like, I want a cat named Thor. It's a great cat name. I'm like, yeah, let's get
a cat named Thor. Come on. He has never said anything else about it since. So if we would've
really acted on that, that would've been crazy. But then I remember that I'm like highly allergic
to cats. So yeah. Yeah. And that's the bummer. And that's, that's like, I feel re I'm so sorry. Yeah.
I would just be sneezing all the time. You know? Yeah. That's not fun. You guys don't have allergies
to cats. I have horrible allergies. Oh, not, not against animals. Not against animals. I'm dying
every day. Not, no, I have like horrible seasonal allergies and stuff. So like I, I get the pain of
horrible allergies. So you're just not with the cats. You're taking your like Zyrtec or Claridin.
daily that way you're not sneezing with all your cats i mean when it's bad it's yeah i try and take
it every day or their shedding season yeah their shedding season's bad but sometimes it's like i'm
great like i haven't taken i've been taking allergies all week that's so good wait can we
like rewind a little bit because okay your engagement story is incredible but i want to
know more about like how you met how you started dating long distance online i well wait what you
you met online yeah we met online but it's a very modern day love story okay so i i was scrolling
on tiktok as one does it just became tiktok okay it's not musically anymore you know it's back then
so this was probably november of 2019 um and i was just scrolling on tiktok and i saw this this guy
do this impression of jack sparrow in a mirror and i just was like and i don't i don't i'm not
the person to
comment cute or hot or you know any of those things but oh my goodness my breath was taken
away i was like i was like he looks just like will turner and he's doing this jack sparrow impression
and it was just it was absolute peak it was so good and i just i commented cute oh wow and i had
no idea what that would have turned into because he saw that i was verified and because you know
he was looking through comments he's like oh my gosh a verified chick commented wait you were
that as a kid verified in 2019 no way verified i think i got verified probably yeah like the
beginning of my senior year of high school oh my gosh for dance stuff no i just did the comedy
like lifestyle stuff definitely cringe like i look back and i'm like how could i post this
like i'm like we've all been it's so bad like sometimes i'll literally see a video from
six years ago and i will be like archive archive yeah that's an archive post this is just rough
well because it was the time i was like i was like 16 17 totally you know it was the whole world was
kind of cringe it was just weird yeah i how i know you guys how i discovered you is when abby and i
were doing like couple more couples videos in 2020 you guys would do this just in case series
what whatever happened to the just in case series so yeah the just in case like someone tries to
attack you yeah just yeah just in case all that stuff so i actually started that um before he was
in the picture with actually one of my good friends um in high school and i was like oh my gosh i'm
in high school and it was just we were we were hanging out one night and i said hey you want to
make this like fun video with me he's like yeah let's do it let's sure and so we just made a
random fun video and it got millions of views and and then i was just like let's just keep going my
mom was like you should call it the just in case series because like pretend or defender like weird
whatever and i'm like okay great and then it kind of just evolved and then as he you know as we
started dating we started evolving it more and then it got to the point where it's like there's
not much more just in case you can do it and i'm like okay great and then it kind of just evolved
too and she kind of covered all of it i'm like just in case your mom comes home and the chicken's
not de-thawed you know it's like i hit every base um and and it was just it's a very um character
you know type of video to even make um and i think what's interesting too is i'm like i am i'm 24 now
i was 16 15 15 16 when i started making these videos i've grown up and changed mature wise
life wise a lot in those years and so sometimes i look back and i'm like
wow this is so cringy then i'm also like yeah i'm 16 you know like i'm naturally i'm gonna be
different than than i am now you know my content is gonna be you know different but um anyway i
saw the jack sparrow impression fell in love with this guy and i was like this is so cute i know it's
so easy and um he reached out to me and we just kind of started dming each other on instagram
um and actually you sent me a snapchat but i never added you back for like a couple of months
because i had no idea i'm so sorry it was rough
i had no idea but he sent me a snapchat of him doing like this like two minute long
jack sparrow impression and i didn't see it until march and so i finally add him back and i see this
impression and it was definitely a good icebreaker because you know how you know starting phases you
it's like oh here's the shoulder snap you like in snapchats you know you don't like show your face
i was like wow he really went out of the way to start this snapchat we are just very much ourselves
and so i just
responded kind of the same exact way and we just became best friends through through the phone he
was in kansas at the time um and that's just yeah we did all that and then covid happened what else
do you do during covid but hang out and so he stayed at my mom's house which my mom thought
was crazy that's a whole other thing um and and then here we are now wow okay wait matt what were
your first impressions scrolling through all of her musically videos getting to know this girl
that just like slid in and she was like oh my god she's so cute and she's so cute and she's so
and your comments on your jack sparrow video yeah it was kind of crazy i i mean she was doing this
just in case series with another boy and i was like all right well i am obviously out
i'm done but um no i thought they were hilarious i i was very intrigued with like how much she's
herself especially like on an app like that you know i was around when vine was a thing and it
was kind of similar um so like looking for like that genuine genuine person it's very difficult
and so like i found her and i was like wow she's actually just i think she's being herself i mean i
obviously didn't know her but i was like looks like she's just trying to be maddie whoever that
is yeah um and then watching all the videos and i really didn't think they were cringe because i was
also cringe right like if i looked at him now i'd be like what type of cringe videos were you putting
i was just not even go there brother it's just not even it's just not even a train to get on
thirst traps at the time no i thank god i didn't do the thirst traps i was more of just like i never
did that kind of stuff it was just i was just weird i was just weird um and so i saw that and
i was like man this this girl kind of matches my personality and then um you know i had been
talking to other girls at the time and none of them were really like hitting and i was really
hitting off with any of them and then i i was talking to garrett and this is after i kind of
was talking to maddie for a little bit and i was like dude i kind of like this girl i think this
could be something and garrett's just like driving the truck and he's like okay he's heard this so
many times
before um and then you know progresses and she's asking me to go to this freaking tiktok
conference thing i don't even freaking know it's called tiktok live tiktok live and do you remember
that from like way back when right before covid hit yeah we weren't on until after yeah we didn't
get oh see we started making tiktok dances when we were like in quarantine you know and you guys
were in hawaii at that point right shortly after shortly after we lived there for a year okay yes
because i remember i don't know where in my files
in my memory but i remember you guys living in hawaii at one point yes okay okay yes we did
like six months after that was that was a fun time yeah how was that was that hard living there with
covid it was actually great because we were living like in the like the country sort of area so the
the restrictions weren't as high and we could just like go to the beach and go hike so it was just
you could do anything outdoors yeah we were outside every day i mean you're in hawaii why
wouldn't you be yeah we lived in like a little shoebox so we were right by the water so it's
when you're going to bed and yeah we didn't have ac though that was no air conditioning yeah well
okay so when we were living in hawaii in 2021 for you got you got you said you guys like lived
together for six years was that in texas then or kansas or where exactly was that texas yeah so i
just had a lot of stuff going on like family wise and i was just ready to get out of utah yeah you
know um and utah very much especially in the in the culture i was raised in the mormon culture
it's a bubble you know
where i it is like it's it's its own little world there like i watched secret lives mormon wives and
i'm like uh-huh really it's just such a it's such a different world there and um and so i was at the
point where i'm like i just need to get out i just need to be away and he was living in kansas but
him and all the good good guys this was before good good was started that his golf company
and um they were like well we're moving to texas to like really try to do this thing
and um it was just kind of like yeah well i was i want to move out i just don't know where it
whatever come to texas you know what screw it okay i'm coming to texas yeah and so we just
moved in together into you know and that was august of 2020 and then um it really it's
interesting because it's like we only were dating for a couple months at that point we only met
at the end of april april 24th of 2020 so that's when we met each other for the first time and then
we moved in august 1st again this is a crazy story like the fact that this that all worked
out the way it did i tell my mom i'm like i don't know everyone probably doesn't know
probably thought i was crazy i look back and i'm like holy crap like if my daughter was doing i'd
be like what are you doing like this is crazy but um but it worked out so perfectly we're so blessed
and lucky to have it turn out the way it turned out growing up in utah what did your mom think
when you're like yeah i just graduated i'm gonna go move in with this guy like what right what did
your mom say what did your mom say to you um well she wasn't for it it was i was kind of going
through a little rebellious phase where i was like
i was making money on my own you know and through tiktok and i'm like oh my gosh i just made 100
bucks i'm rich you know and and i'm and i was you know young and i just graduated high school but
also covid it was like the whole world was shut down everything was just weird it was a weird
time and my mom was going through my mom and dad had been in this like eight year divorce thing
and so they she was just going through her own version of hell and you know whatever and so
i was just kind of like i'm just getting out and i'm like i use the quote i'm
18, I can do whatever I want.
So she's like, I either support or I don't, you know?
i'm gonna hate when our kids pull that on us i can do whatever i want i'm looking forward to that
and and i and i did and you know usually at that age you can't afford to do that yourself but
luckily because of what you know what i was a my content and stuff i was and so i just i just did
it and she was supportive it was kind of more my like other fam like my in-laws and extended family
and all of my friends being like what are you doing and i'm like this is i'm just moving to
texas did you did you still like identify as like mormon or lds at the time when you like
moved like moved out of utah or was or was that like was that your i guess version of breaking
away from that it was very strict i guess and in my in my upbringing and very much on um in every
aspect of our lives and so but when my parents um started their divorce process when i was 16
it kind of just all felt kind of fell through like we just you know i would go to church and
people would talk to me about it and i'm like i don't want to talk about this so i just i
think it's kind of like a little bit of a thing but i think it's kind of like a little bit of a
little bit of a thing but i think it's kind of like a little bit of a thing but i think it's kind of
going to church i whatever i'm kind of figuring out and matt and i believe too i believe every
you know no matter what your upbringing is whether you're raised in a church or raised not you have
to come to a point in your life where you actually have to make the decision for yourself do i
believe this or do i believe this because of my testimony or my parents testimony and i didn't
have my own testimony i mean i thought i did but it was only because that's what i was around
and um then we went i kind of was just like i'm not mormon i'm not this i don't know
what i believe and i did that for a couple of years and then matt and i actually found god
together um about three years ago and um our lives have been you know redirected in a very
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be stressful as a kid though because like i mean i think just in general divorce is super stressful
i know we were talking earlier off podcast about elizabeth smart you growing up near where she
lived yeah and even talking to her she said that like her parents divorce is what brought her to
therapy more so than the kidnapping did which is just like wild how like how big of an effect
divorce has on kids yeah especially in a religion where celestial families are so prominent yeah
because in the mormon religion they believe that you know you are sealed for eternity to your
spouse and then you live with them you know you live together for eternity in heaven and you know
your kids are going to be in heaven and you're going to be in heaven and you're going to be in heaven
kids and it's a whole eternity thing and so believing that as a kid and then having your
parents separate it's not even just like a this life thing it's like a different level of like
right what is our eternity going to look like what is heaven going to look like it's this other kind
of um breakage and i think that definitely affected like emotions taken out of it what
what is the teaching of what eternity looks like if people get a divorce in in the church well um
i mean it depends kind of who you ask what i believe from when i was in the church with the
doctor and i was like oh my god i'm going to get a divorce and i'm going to get a divorce and i'm
like oh my god i'm going to get a divorce and i'm going to get a divorce and i'm going to get a divorce
and said at the time was that you'd have to do a a ceiling break so they'd have to actually go into
the temple and break a ceiling oh wow um which is like a very big deal and then um but some people
choose to stay sealed like uh my mom knows some people who are divorced but they just have stayed
sealed so they'll be together in heaven but just not on this life in this life um and um but my mom
and dad yeah they they ended the ceiling but then it just throws the kids through a loop it throws
your mind through a loop you know being in heaven and then you're like oh my god i'm going to get a
child of that and trying to understand what that looks like heaven already is so difficult to
understand um and so it just it was just a whole other added level of like you know hurt i guess
you know yeah wait matt were you raised like christian mormon like yeah i was i was raised
like non-denominational well i guess i was actually raised methodist for a little bit
we did methodist church and then i was kind of raised i would say non-denomination
gotcha non-denominational christian pretty much my my entire life gotcha um going to the
church going to sunday school going to little you know trips and stuff and um yeah that was
pretty much my my entire upbringing yeah gotcha and then so then i guess meeting each other
and like yeah just deciding to be a couple were your parents at all like oh you're gonna like marry
the the girl from utah like was that any or did your parents were just like you just do whatever
you want we love you like yeah pretty much they didn't they didn't really have like a huge say in
my relationship status i guess gotcha
they never really have um it was kind of like hey if you know if you like her and you know or
i don't know if we were at love i guess yet but if you love this girl like you know pursue it and
you know just kind of do it dope yeah it wasn't like a don't you dare kind of thing you know
even if i had told them even if i think i told them that she was you know lds i don't i still
don't think they'd have been like don't do that like i don't think they would have i don't think
they would have really cared when did you guys start talking about getting married like when did
the picture day one day one oh wow i'm kidding um i mean it is funny because you know most people
when it's like you meet you meet you meet a guy and you go on a date and they take you out friday
night and it's like another date and you go again friday night the next friday night you know with
covid it was like we were talking on the phone 24 freaking seven because like again what else is
there to do and then he literally came to then stay at my mom's house in the basement for longer
than that because he went to vegas yeah it's two weeks we drove on a road trip to vegas and the
strip was closed and it was really cool to see the strip not all you know filled but um and again
this was like the beginning of covid and so then all of a sudden we were spending every waking
moment together and then we got covid together so then we were quarantined together even longer and
um we just it just all it all happened really fast um which i see that now but also didn't feel fast
like we've known each other forever we had said this found we had such a foundation i think too
from talking online that it wasn't like a um it was like we we only could be best friends we
couldn't have any of that physical intimacy we couldn't have any of that for months and so we
just grew such a strong base of friendship before we even met each other you know and then it just
kind of we were best friends before we were anything else that's so sweet and it seems like
you guys have like the same sense of humor i feel like we do something
sometimes i forget that other people don't think it's funny yeah no i like it i think it's i love
the energy that it brings into a room i bet you guys laugh a lot which is really sweet yeah we do
yeah i don't know if other others would laugh no i'm sure it's so stupid but i love how your humor
is so dry and like you're all like bubbly and smiley and you're just like not even like i love
that like i i don't know i i wish i could like embody that that like brand of comedy you're a
joke say something funny make us laugh that's so funny so it's funny too because i'm in the good
good videos because i don't know if you guys know about golf yeah yeah i know what good good is but
can you explain it for people like our listeners that have no idea what good good is let them like
tell them what good sick hat by the way yeah love the good good hat yeah um no good good
essentially is a uh a golf company that i own with a bunch of my buddies and we just have a bunch of
we travel the world and we film golf youtube videos together uh we've got a you know like a
whole business that sells apparel and you know we're partnered with callaway and we just try to
do anything and everything we can in the golf space trying to be more of a solidified like
golf brand not just some youtube golf brand yeah um and i think we've done a pretty good job of
that in the last six years but i mean yeah we're a youtube company we're an apparel company we
are working on our uh pga tour championship uh tour event we got
coming in november so we partnered with them and we have our like legit own golf tournament for
fedex points on tour um we're bringing back big break i don't know if you guys ever heard big
break but it's essentially where a bunch of people go and compete and whoever wins gets the chance to
go on like the pga tour and compete in an actual tournament oh no so they had done that for like i
think over 20 years or whatever and then stopped and then they're redoing it with us that's like
we get a chance to like bring that back so we're doing a bunch of crazy stuff in the in the golf
space but i mean the way that i like to tell it is it's just a golf company that i run with my
best friends yeah weren't you that's so cool that you guys are all friends doing it together too
i'm sure it makes things a little difficult at times too oh no they're pissing me off yeah
it's so great and sometimes they get on my nerves weren't you guys like the first digital
like golf brand to do like partner with something there's yeah yeah the first the the like when we
signed with callaway that was like the biggest
like brand deal that anyone has ever seen like so cool wow biggest brand deal in the golf world or
like in in yeah like like callaway too like all these other guys had never done like had never
done anything like they had never signed with like a bunch of creators and actually given them a huge
lump sum of money and partnered with them like that that had never been done so we were kind of
like the first company to do that it's cool you guys make videos golfing together i think that's
kind of yeah that's kind of rad when i never golfed until him yeah i was gonna say you had to learn
my dad took me golfing when i was little and he gave me his man men's clubs at the range and
i couldn't hit anything and i got so mad and i'm like i'm never touching a golf club in my life
i hate this sport and then i meet this guy he's like yeah i make golf youtube videos and
and then honestly i really do enjoy it yeah it's fun it's very it's very fun it can make me angry
like no other i believe it you're throwing a club multiple so many water bottles she's thrown
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you and your buddies realize that good could that good good could be a company or or more than just
you and your buddies playing golf on youtube probably our first apparel drop i mean right
when we like decided to drop our apparel because that's like when when we were going to decide like
all right is this going to be like a go or is this thing going to be a bust yeah you know if we
freaking drop all our apparel and we bought 5 000 polos and we sold 40 of them yay yeah word
i mean obviously this isn't for us but we had like a drop and it all sold out in like 30 minutes
and goodness flew off the shelves and people freaking loved it and you know we were getting
really good feedback on our youtube videos as well which i think like seeing that seeing like
the the success that we had in the youtube and just seeing the numbers we were like all right
i think this can be something but then when you bring like the r&d of actually making clothes and
apparel for people to buy it's like that's just like a completely different level like a lot of
people be like oh you got great youtube followers and great views you're just going to sell apparel
yeah but that's just not the case it's just completely different thing like when you're
actually telling people to go purchase something compared to just watch our youtube videos for free
yeah it's completely different and we were like man this is either going to tank the company or
we're just going to sail and we ended up sailing do you have like an in-house development team for
the apparel yeah we've got a design and apparel team um we work uh hand in hand with the apparel
as well like we're like 60 employees yeah we've got holy cow yeah so we're moving up in employees
we the good guys like we're hands-on with the apparel and stuff we're talking about what we
like what we don't like what we want people to wear and not wear um so we work closely with the
design team um but yeah we try and be as hands-on with as much stuff as we possibly can obviously
there are some jobs that we can't do that's why we allocate it to other people yeah but for the
most part we are as hands-on as we can be a lot of people forget though too that you they actually
tried
you guys you garrett and steve did a company before good good yeah we did and it failed and
so usually if that happens people are like screw we're not doing this again and then so good good
was actually your second attempt no way yeah yeah it was it was a company it was called bro five
um it was myself steven garrett and uh a guy named brody smith who did a bunch of different frisbee
trick shots he was a huge frisbee guy and then he kind of got into the game of golf and me garrett
was kind of doing gm golf and we were doing funny you know wheeling out ideal videos and playing
with hamburgers and hot dogs and we were we were doing literally anything and everything that we
could to make it as non-golf related as possible so we could bring in an audience to be like come
watch guys just be dudes you know just come watch this you know buddies having fun and uh so we were
like absolutely crushing that and then brody was like the older guy he was the business head he
kind of had all the connections and stuff and he was like we could make like a company together and
then obviously all three of us had been really really big fans of dude perfect yeah um I'd been
following them for a long time and been watching all their videos and freaking love them and they
were like the they were like the group right they were the YouTube group and we're like man what if
we just did that like something like that but with like golf and we just try to create like a new you
know dude perfect but golf thing yeah and then um yeah we started down the journey and things were
going really well and we were filming a bunch of different videos and then um yeah unfortunately it
like failed miserably I think our dynamic me Garrett Steve was too strong and trying to add
in another dude to like throw in the mix of that and try to create relationships individually with
all of us yeah and then also have that relationship with all three of us together and it was just like
it was a horrible dynamic you're just like 18 and we were 18 19 years old we had no idea doing that
yeah we didn't know idea I certainly had no idea like the the amount of money you can make on
YouTube and like that it could be an actual job um and when I started like to see the numbers and
then I was like Frick we're making a lot of money doing this and and wow this could be a thing and
obviously freaking fizzled out and was horrible and died um and then we kind of went on for the
rest of our lives kind of doing what we normally did and then obviously I met him yeah that's when
we met we talked we were quarantined at Purcell Farms and um filming some more videos and we
brought in more people you know Micah and George Brian and Bryce Butler and like we were bringing
all these other people to like help film us like golf videos and I kind of saw the group vibe again
and then that's for me and Garrett and Steve had to make the decision of like all right do we want
to do this again and then if so apparently there was you know a company that wanted to you know
invest money into us and like here throw you guys some capital and then we can like we can
kind of be the guys behind you and kind of help make a you know a business
yeah and then from that pretty much good good was created is that does that stress you out at all
having like money that you had to repay to some some like investor yeah having investors was
unbelievably scary it was like because you know I've watched Shark Tank I'm not you know I'm not
incompetent I know how it works they take your business from you and then you end up not owning
it and you you get a nice chunk of change but you know I I was always like if I'm going to create a
movie I kind of want to keep it yeah and if I have to get rid of it I'm like what's the point of five
years down the road I create this awesome thing and then I'm just going to give it away and yeah
be left thinking well now what am I going to do so that was the biggest worry with having investors
and investors is just like it's a scary term for 18 year old kid to hear um and I was just like
please don't take over the company and you know I was thinking about Brody and I was like I don't
want another situation like that but then you know we met the team in Texas and that's when we
um like she was talking about we kind of wanted to move to Texas because they were based in Texas
and they wanted to keep us there and like you know we'll build it here this will be our home base
um and then you know we just took the leap um and it was obviously a great conversation and
and things moved in the right direction we got to hear from all the investors individually on
like what they could bring to the table and what they can do.
And it was a great conversation.
And I think if we didn't have that and it was like a phone meeting,
I don't think Google would be a thing.
So I think having that like face-to-face and what they can bring to the table
and what they can do change the trajectory for all of us to actually want to do it.
Do you guys like living in Texas?
Is that a good spot?
Great place to live, not great for golf.
Sorry, Texas people, you know.
Hey, Phoenix is great.
But here's the problem, though, too.
I'm used to mountains and like nature stuff.
I don't know.
I never heard what a cicada was until I moved there.
You know what a cicada is?
Do you guys have cicadas here?
They don't have them here.
Yeah.
Well, we don't have them here.
I grew up with them.
We'd have like the infestation of cicadas in Missouri every couple of years.
I know they like don't hurt anyone.
Like carcasses everywhere.
But I absolutely hate those things so much.
My friend from Texas was like, oh, it's just summer white noise.
And I'm like, no, I don't like it.
They were piling up two summers ago at your parents' house like crazy.
Yeah.
Cicadas are insane.
Yeah.
And so.
And they're at least where we live.
We live up north of Dallas.
And so there aren't really any mountains, you know, maybe on Ant Hill is the most you get.
I like mountains.
Right.
Yeah.
I like the mountains.
And I grew up skiing and boarding.
So, you know, that's that's been the hard change.
However, we have grown such a good community there that I think it would be really, really
hard to leave.
It would be very hard to leave.
You know, because of the of the people.
The people make the place.
And once you have the baby, then.
I know.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you're going to.
You're going to want probably like family around.
Like we weren't even thinking about that when when we got pregnant.
But oh, my gosh, it was so nice to have family that moved out to Arizona just to like get
to do life with us and our kids.
It makes a huge difference.
So my sister, they live like 15 minutes away from us.
Oh, see.
So that's been amazing.
And they have they have a daughter.
That's great.
They have a one and a half year old daughter.
And then we have like our church life group.
I don't know if that's a common term.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
We have our life group and two of them are.
We're just had little.
That's what I'm saying.
Once you have babies somewhere, it's hard to leave.
Yeah.
So I'm like, we're all in the same stage of life here.
It's so nice.
Yeah.
And I know the hard thing is it's so hard being away from from my mom.
But she comes down as often as she can.
You know, and again, we'll see what happens in the baby, Sarah.
I don't like what I see.
What happened?
Our friends, they're here for residency and they were always intending on going back.
But now we've like raised our kids together for so long.
She's like, I don't know.
Yeah.
I know.
Oh, it's so sweet.
I want to talk about the baby because that's like my favorite thing to talk about.
Yeah.
Baby.
Was this like a plan?
Like we're like, we're ready.
Yeah.
Like starting kids or was it just like.
Yeah.
Because we love unplanned moments, honestly.
Like, I mean, we've had one ourselves.
Yeah, we did.
That was baby number two for us.
It was a surprise.
I love that.
I love that.
We.
Well, so.
OK.
So TMI.
But we've been doing pull and pray for like the last three or four years.
OK.
You got to be careful with that one.
Well, and so we were just.
We were doing it and nothing ever happened.
I'm like, is something actually like, are we just really good at pulling and praying
or.
It's such a weird thing to say.
I love it.
It sure is.
Are you a puller?
It sure is.
Pull and pray, baby.
I'm like, are we just really good at that?
Or is he just really good at that?
You're a talented man.
Clearly.
No, no, no.
Let's actually just keep talking about it.
So it's actually.
So.
I'm thinking the next 30 minutes, we just kind of, we just dive into this.
Oh my God.
But I.
And so, but I have really painful periods.
Like that was, that's been something I've been really working through a lot of my adult life.
I actually remember I was in jewelry class in high school.
You had a jewelry class?
Yeah, I know.
What the frick?
She said the same thing.
I'm like, I'm like, you didn't learn Mandarin Chinese?
He's like, what?
We had had a schluck corn.
That's what we had.
Yeah, we're in.
He's like.
There was like one language.
There was one.
It was called Tonganoxie, Kansas.
And it was literally just a fricking.
I mean, just by the name, you're like, yeah, you guys picked corn or something, didn't you?
You fricking ate beans.
Tongalocky.
Tongalocky.
Fricking.
Chimney.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He says Chimney.
I say that.
You just said Chimney.
Abby says Chimney.
Is that a Kansas thing to say Chimney?
I've never met another person in my life who has said Chimney.
Can we wrap here?
Thanks guys for watching the M10 Dependency Podcast.
I say that all the time.
You say Chimney Christmas.
I'm like, who is this?
And Matt goes, where did you get that?
I was like, you don't say that?
You don't say that?
Oh my gosh.
And so sometimes I'll just say Chimney.
Chimney.
Yeah.
You're kind of the only, well, I guess you're the only two people I know that do that.
I have not met another Chimney.
So that's great to meet a fellow sister in Christ.
Sister in Jimmy.
Sister in Jimmy.
That's crazy.
Was it your mom or dad or uncle that said Chimney?
You can never know where you acquired it from.
Yeah.
How did you?
Do you?
Do you know where you acquired it?
Because Abby has no idea.
No clue.
It's a gene you have.
He just started.
It's a Jimmy gene you have.
Chimney.
And I'm like.
Like Chimney Cricket, you can say Chimney Neutron.
Chimney Neutron is one he's been saying a lot.
And I'm like, you know.
He's a lot.
Yeah.
This is one of those things that I'm just going to laugh about for way too long.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Anyway, what were we talking about?
Oh, painful periods.
Painful periods.
Oh, we were talking about.
Pull and pray.
Pull and pray.
Painful periods.
And painful periods.
Yes.
All the periods.
Okay.
All the periods.
I would have like these episodes where like when my period would start in school.
And it wasn't like, oh, I'm feeling cramps.
I just need to like sit down.
It's like everything I'm doing, stop doing it.
I like fall to the ground.
Like I remember I left.
I was in jewelry class.
And I just left.
Because I just.
I'm not going to ask a teacher.
I could barely even speak.
I just literally walked.
I just walked out of the room.
I had my phone.
And I texted my friends later.
Once I could finally get to the bathroom to bring like my medicine and my stuff.
But that's, you know.
And so I was used to all of that.
And then I got on birth control to try to, you know, get rid of my periods.
But then I did a lot of research into that.
And I wanted to do it a little more naturally.
Or I wanted to heal.
I didn't want a band-aid.
I wanted to really heal what was going on.
And so I've been in this like healing journey for forever.
And, you know, I changed my diet.
I changed this.
And I'm sure those things helped.
But the reality is I still, you know, just had really painful periods.
To the point where, I mean, right before we started trying.
Which is, again, such a funny thing to say.
Like we're trying to get pregnant.
We know what that means.
We know what you're doing.
Before we did that, I mean, I think like the month before, again, my period started.
And I know what happens when I start feeling the cramps.
I just pop in my medicine because I just know what to do.
But I think I just took a little too long this time because I, you know,
decided to take a shower.
And I just took a little too long.
And I was pretty much like on the floor.
In the bathroom for like a good hour or something before the medicine finally kicked in.
And it was like so much pain.
I'm like shaking.
Oh my gosh.
You know, like I'm going to throw up.
But it's coming out this end and that end.
It's like a weird, like I'm just in so much pain.
And so being pregnant and not having a period has been wonderful.
However, I had a consultation to get an endometriosis surgery.
And I scheduled it five days before I found out I was pregnant.
Oh, okay.
Non-refundable deposit.
So I don't get any of that back.
You're kidding.
Why would they do that?
500 bucks.
Don't get it.
I don't get it back.
However, I'm pregnant and I'm so blessed.
Yeah.
I'm so happy with that.
But like I felt so, I was so scared that I wasn't going to be able to because of all
the noise around that and all the pain with that.
I'm like, okay, we really haven't been that careful the, you know, the last couple of
years and I haven't gotten pregnant and we've been trying for a couple of months and it
hasn't really been working.
Clearly there's something wrong because this isn't, this pain isn't normal.
Um, but it all, you know, God had a better plan and greater plan that you could have
imagined.
And here we are.
That's so exciting.
So, yeah.
And we'll see what happens when I get it again.
I don't know what's going to happen.
We'll get there.
Maybe it'll be better.
Honestly, people say that people have said that it has helped like he helped heal them.
And so I'm really hoping that, yeah, that, that is something.
But the pregnancy, so the pregnancy has felt like a relief in some ways.
In that way, for sure.
I mean, it's, it's harder in other ways.
But I always say.
I was, someone asked me, they're like, what would you rather have?
And I'm like, well, right now I'm creating a life.
I'm like, I'm aware that I'm going to feel a little not exactly.
There's a purpose behind it.
I'm aware I'm going to feel tired or nauseous or hangry all the time.
Are you so hungry right now?
I was really hungry in the first trimester.
I'm like better now.
Really?
You know, most people, my sister was too.
She said she like lost weight in the first trimester because she could barely eat.
Well, I, that, that, that.
Okay.
For everyone listening right now, their due dates are a week apart.
So.
Wait, wait.
Are you saying your due date?
Oh.
Take that out.
Take that out.
We can take that out.
No, no, no.
I'm due July 29th.
Okay.
But then I just got my anatomy scan like two weeks ago or three or whatever weeks ago.
And then push it to August 5th.
Okay.
So I don't, I'm like end of July, beginning of August is when baby's going to be born.
Incredible.
Six days apart, people.
Six days apart.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's crazy sauce.
That's so exciting.
That is so exciting.
I was like literally just doing the math in my head.
I'm like, wow.
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Has it sunk in yet that, like, you are a dad now?
No.
Like, when do you think it's going to hit you?
I don't know.
I think, like, that part of life, I guess, for men, I feel like that doesn't happen until, like, those moments where you are actually a dad.
Like, I feel like for the mother, it's just way different.
Like, you guys start right away, especially if you're breastfeeding.
Like, that part of life just starts.
Like, you're a mother.
Like, this baby can do literally nothing without you.
Dad, if I'm not here, the baby still survives.
Not in a bad, don't, obviously don't leave your baby, but I'm saying, like, if I'm not here.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
If I am not here.
Mom can, mom takes care of baby, the baby survives.
So, it's like, for me, I think that, that part's going to come in, you know, later when, you know, kind of like when, where a niece's age is at.
Maybe a little before then, when she's maybe crawling around or, you know, she's a little bit more cognitive and whatever.
I think that's maybe where it'll start.
Well, you told me you were like, you were like, there's not much I can do in those early, you know.
Yeah, my job is to take care of her.
Especially if I'm breastfeeding, there's not, there's not, yeah.
Like, my job is to take care of Maddie.
So, he was like, he was like, you're, I have to take care of you so you can take care of baby.
Yeah.
Because he's not saying that you're not helping out with the baby.
But, like.
I mean, I can't.
I'm barely going to be able to help, you know, myself.
Yeah.
So, you know, he's going to.
So, I think, I think, I think for me, it's like when I have, when, when baby's born, like, I got to focus on being a husband first.
Yeah.
Like, as much as I'm going to want to, like, take over and take control, like, my job is to be a husband first.
And if I make sure that she's okay and she's obviously not going to be at 100% for a very long time.
But, like, if, if I can take the steps to, you know, make sure the house.
Yeah.
The house is clean.
There's the least, like, we talked about, like, a couple weeks ago, like, the least amount of stress that I can give her.
Like, those are the things that, that I need to focus on.
I need to put my ego aside of, like, I need this baby and I got to do this and this, this, this.
And, like, what can I do to help you so that this baby can actually survive and that you can survive, you know?
So, like, those are the things that I'm mainly going to be focusing on.
And then, you know, once we kind of get a little bit more comfortable with sleep schedules and things, you know, slowly start getting on track.
And it's, like, you know, now I can kind of maybe, you know, focus on some of those things.
But, yeah.
There's so much unknown.
Did you kind of feel like you were going to have a girl?
I feel like I was always destined to be a girl dad for sure.
I kind of feel like just talking to you, I'm like, I can totally see you having.
He always gave me girl dad vibes.
Yeah.
But from, like, symptoms that people were telling me, it seemed like we were going to have a boy.
See, you seem like a boy mom, though, too.
And that's, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But I also come from a family of only girls.
Oh.
And so, like, I'm very.
I'm very used to just girls.
Really?
And that also feels very comfortable and safe.
Okay.
I also think there's definitely healing, I think, that he's going to have and that I'm
going to have being a parent of a girl.
Aw.
You know?
And I think that's going to be a very beautiful.
Do you have a sister?
Yes.
I have two older sisters.
I mean, if you don't know anything about my story, I'm adopted from Russia, so they both
still live in Russia.
Oh.
So I haven't been able to see them for, you know, 20 years or whatever.
Oh, wow.
But I do have two older sisters.
Victoria has two kids.
Mm.
And Irene.
Irina doesn't have any.
Wow.
Are you able to stay in touch with them?
I mean, yeah, kind of.
I mean, we Skyped.
We Skyped a long time ago back in Kansas.
But, you know, we had to Skype with a translator.
So, like, it was just very difficult, like, the communication between us and the translator
to try to get them on the same page.
It was just, it was really difficult.
But, yeah, you know, we, they have Instagrams.
So, like.
We talk on Instagram and stuff.
No way.
He's at Google Translate.
You know, you can say, it's Russian to English, and they'll send it out.
Oh, that's cool.
So I haven't really grown up with a sister dynamic by any means.
Yeah.
But I did, I do have an older brother as well.
So I, you know, I did have a sibling.
So I know the sibling dynamic.
That was adopted with him.
Yeah.
Oh, no way.
So you and your brother were adopted from Russia.
And, like, did you know that all the time growing up?
Or was there, like, a day that your parents were like, oh, by the way, we adopted you?
There was definitely a time they told us because we didn't speak any English.
He was, like, five.
Yeah, I was, like, five.
Oh, okay.
So I was young, and it took me a while to kind of, I think, get all that.
I think I started to, like, learn.
Like, I was obviously different from all the other kids because I didn't understand what
anybody was saying.
Yeah.
I was a translator.
I was kind of like, what the heck?
So I think I slowly started to, like, figure it out in school.
And then I'm pretty sure my parents told, I don't, like, remember the day that they told
me or anything.
But I'm pretty sure they, like, told me, like, hey, you guys are adopted from Russia, and
we're your parents now.
And they probably told this whole story of what happened to your parents.
And you have sisters.
And we try to get them.
And, like, they went through all of that.
I definitely remember, like, them talking about that.
Wow.
And then I, you know, always ask questions.
You know, every now and then questions would come up, and they'd do their best to answer
them.
But, yeah.
Pretty crazy story.
He's a pretty crazy story.
He is a crazy story.
I tell him, like, I'm like, the documentary of just, like, his, like, early childhood.
It would be great.
It would be really good.
Just from what your sisters and your little sibling group, two sisters and two brothers,
had to go through.
You know, before you were put in the orphanage, and then before you were adopted.
I mean, it's just, you have such a crazy story.
Yeah.
What did you and your siblings have to go through before you were put in an orphanage?
I mean, you know, a lot.
I mean, Victoria was, like, 11 years old.
I think Irina was nine.
And David was six.
And I was, you know, four.
And, you know, once my mom died, it was like she was now the mom and the dad.
And there was nobody to, like, come in and check on them.
And, like, see how they're doing.
Yeah.
So she had to, like, figure all of it out.
She had to figure out how are we going to get our next meal.
How are we going to.
At 11 years old?
Yeah, at 11 years old.
Well, before that, it was, because he has a different dad than his three siblings.
Yes, I should probably say that.
Yeah.
So David and my sisters are my half.
Okay.
Technically half.
And I had another dad.
And apparently, like, Victoria, Maddie just made me this really cool book for my birthday.
It's, like, my early life years and stuff.
So I was able to read that.
And I've seen some of those pictures.
And some of them I haven't seen.
But, like, he would come in and, like, he would have me on his shoulders.
And it looked like he was, like, kind of a good dad or whatever.
But, you know, both of them struggled with alcoholism pretty bad.
And I think there was one moment when my dad was, like, I'm going to take Matt.
And then they were, like, no.
Like, you're not going to do that.
So then he just kind of left.
And then she was just left to kind of fend for herself with all of us.
But she would be gone for.
So I reached out to his older sister a couple months ago and said,
Hey, there's so many gaps between his understanding of his childhood.
Just because we've heard things over the years.
But at the end of the day, we don't really know, you know, much.
And so I reached out to her and I said,
Could you help clarify any of these things?
Could you help give some kind of story,
some kind of understanding of what that looked like before they were adopted?
And she was a little hesitant.
And, again, this is all from English to Russian, Russian to English.
So it's kind of, like, you read it and it's, like,
it's kind of interesting in the way certain things are worded.
But she was a little hesitant.
She was a little hesitant at first because she was just, like,
it's a truly, it's such a sad, awful story.
And I don't, and she said, she's like,
I don't want him to know this because I don't, I just want him to be happy.
And I, but then she got to the point where she said,
But if this is what he wants, I'll share it.
And so she told, she told the story with things that you didn't even know.
Obviously things that I didn't know.
And when the, his sibling's dad died,
his mom fell into, like, alcoholism.
And she'd be gone for, like, two to three days at a time.
And so that's when his older sister would take care of him and watch him.
And they said they would go to the Catholic church down the street
because they would go to the service and they were fed at the end.
And that's how they got their food.
And they all slept in the same bed for warmth, she said.
I mean, she was, just go Russia, freezing, freezing cold.
It's like jumping back to, like, the 19, you know.
50s.
I mean, it's like sewage.
And his parents were saying, like, sewage on the streets.
You know.
Yeah, we've chatted with LDS missionaries that did a mission in Russia.
And they said people would just, like, die freezing to death in the street.
Yeah, and they would just leave them on the street.
Like, that's how cold it is.
She came home drunk.
She fell, hit her head.
She had a cerebral aneurysm.
And then froze to death.
She froze in the street.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's horrible.
And then his sister, they had him for a little while until the authorities did anything about it.
And then, so it was just them four.
Just the kids.
And then they were put in the orphanage.
but they were separated.
because they had the girls and the boys yeah that was tough and she was saying she was like she was
like it was the hardest day of my life because we were always together and we didn't have parents
we didn't have you know anyone who cared about us you know besides ourselves and um and she's like
and she even said she's like she's like matt and his name is vadim was like my kid it was like my
child because i took care of him and um and then when the authorities came and picked him up the
girls were taken one way and the boys were taken another way but matt was four so he was technically
still supposed to go to the baby's house so then they separated them two and i mean just imagine
like all the all the screaming crying tears of like little children who don't understand what's
going on just being ripped apart from all they know that's that's what happened um and then
they
and then you know these two two people mike and deb and um and where were they living at the time
um starts with an m was it missouri no no it was minnesota they were living in south dakota
i think they found it they found an ad in a newspaper it was an ad in the newspaper yeah
flyer on like a telephone pole for you and your brother adopt adopting kids from adopting kids
from russia so they're like let's just go because they had fertility issues like a it was like a
seminar so come listen to our seminar about kids being adopted and stuff and mike was like hesitant
because he was like if i freaking go to the seminar bro i'm about to be crying i'm about
to get a kid yeah at least exactly at least he wasn't even mentally prepared for that and deb's
like just shut up let's just go listen to nothing can happen and here i am yeah unfortunately they
changed your life mike's a softie yeah but how they do it is they actually fly all the kids
down on a plane so they flew all of the all the kids down there was probably like what 20 of you
yeah like 20 kids yeah they flew all of them down on a plane and they actually come to live with the
american parents for a month and then these kids don't speak any english so they're like they're
going from like living in like hell to being brought to like this wonderful life where they
have food and they're not freezing to mcdonald's ketchup dude they're like apparently mac and
cheese like their favorite thing is that like do you remember eat it out of the cup wait hold up do
you remember flying on a plane from russia to flying part vaguely because i'm sure i just slept
the entire time but like literally when i landed i remember going to mcdonald's seeing a french fry
eating the like the little things that you like you push a little black thing you know and the
ketchup comes out of the thing i would literally just sit there and eat the things out of the cup
the sauces yeah the ketchup i would just eat the ketchup out of the thing like this is amazing
that's what our kids do that's what my three-year-old will do he'll just eat the
ketchup and i'm like great i'm like good buddy like put a fry in there like wake up
what are you doing but then they literally come off this plane and you have them for a month and
then they say okay now they're going back to russia so these kids are emotional and they
pretty much are like having to be kind of like kind of drag like put back on this plane like
that i know it's the most like away no wonder everyone has like these trauma issues that they
have to work through when they're adults anyway they take them back they take them back and then
the american parents have to go to russia to claim them and talk to the judges buy off do
all that stuff and actually just a couple years after he was adopted they uh putin ended um all
adoptions yeah so it was closed off you couldn't you couldn't adopt any kids from russia anymore
that's the thing now so you can't even adopt from russia so they were able to get you and your
brother back together and oh my gosh that's crazy and your sisters were still in the orphanage yeah
they tried it they tried to uh work a deal where they could get all four of us but they just weren't
having it yeah yeah yeah they had to stay in their in their foster home so they chose you and your
brother because you were the youngest um i think so yeah or i'm i'm sure like a part of me wants to
think like victoria and irena were like take them oh yeah like i i would like to think that that's
that's kind of like what they would say to them to take them in you if you can get us great but like
100 take them um and i know my parents probably you know fought tooth and nail to try to get them
because i and i sometimes wonder like how different that dynamic would have been if i had my sisters
with me it probably would have been so much different both me and david would have been so
much different in the way we acted i'm sure um and then having a sister you know sibling dynamic and
just it all would have been crazy but um yeah that just unfortunately didn't happen so you met them
in that month that you got to your parents that you got to come to the us so then was it hard then
to leave oh my gosh i was freaking scratching and biting and crying and like because because in my
my reality was i'm going back to russia to go back to where i was yeah so these guys didn't like me
didn't it's so sad i didn't yeah like i i'm sure i was saying like i didn't do something right or i
didn't cry enough or i wasn't you know cute enough or you know all the freaking crazy sad stuff that
you could think and so then i'm thinking well now i'm going back and so they brought you to this
seminar is that what this was no they were like i thought or they took me from like the orphanage
uh to here i stayed with a month and then they were taking me back oh you went right to
their house no back to the back to russia back to the orphanage well when you landed in the u.s
sorry oh when they got me yeah you spent the whole month at their house yeah yeah yeah i spent the
whole month at their house um like you know test them out for a month christmas that was it was
christmas right um no no what were those pictures those that's when they finally that's when they
finally got me okay yeah that's right yeah but there's a there's a language barrier they kids
don't they don't yeah we had a translator like legit with us so like wow like i couldn't even
communicate with them like i was they were just taking me to go do fun stuff yeah yeah that was
it also you came right out of the hospital you came sorry you came right out of the plane and
they had to go they had to take him straight to the hospital yeah because right before he went
on the plane to russia he put his eye in a b-hole and so his face was all swollen so he pulled off
the plane and they're like we got to go to the hospital his first thing was the hospital where
they went that must have been a miserable flight shout out david yeah yeah that was i'm sure that
was horrible yeah i mean what a crazy experience is all this like so traumatic you just kind of like
forgot about it like your brain was just like i don't want to remember that anymore
um i'm sure my brain kind of does that naturally maybe i don't know but i know i don't really
remember like you know all that kind of crazy stuff i don't think so like like your first
memories then are just like growing up in the united states then for the most part well i mean
i have the memories of like looking in the beat like david telling me to look in the back of the
b-hole and getting stung by the bees and then like you know going on the plane i remember i was
playing in the orphanage with with um one of my best friends apparently in the orphanage her name
was denise um i don't know if this is with her or someone else but like i was playing with a blue
truck that i loved a lot and i just remember some kid like taking the blue truck and like breaking
it and then like leaving and then i remember that and i was crying or whatever so like i remember
that memory so there's like bits and pieces of stuff that i remember um but i don't think there's
enough to like piece together to like remember all the crazy trauma but from what i've learned from
like from like what psychologists and therapists and like people have really found out is that
you know those early years even if you don't remember it it's still like in your cognitive
your body and your and so what's interesting is him and his brother they're actually they're
alike in a lot of ways but they're different in a lot of ways and it's because his brother went to
the big kid orphanage and matt went to the baby orphanage and the big kid orphanage you kind of
had to fight for what you want and in the baby orphanage the cuter you are the more the love and
attention you get oh my god so
and that but the thing is they don't remember much of that but it plays into who they are now
yeah and you can see that and how and how his brother is and then how he is and so um it stays
within you you know it's it's even though it was so early on i mean the met the the thought of
having you know being ripped away from your sisters and ripped away from everything you knew
has has to still you know it's in you somewhere you know even if the memory isn't exactly there
yeah that's so that's a crazy story it's so cool too that you like went back and like started to
piece some of that together like it's such a cool book well especially now that like we're having
this right i'm like i i want them to know his story and we don't have any photos of him from
before he was like five four or five and so um and so we when we were talking like i wonder what
she's gonna look like i wonder you know all these things i wonder how she's gonna act and i'm like
well who knows who knew him during this time so that's when i reached out to his sister and found
these things and i was so emotional and i was wasn't telling him because i wanted to save for
his birthday but i i was learning all these things and i was originally going to save that story for
his birthday but i was like i don't i don't think this is something you should this is like i gotta
share this with him before this is like heavy on my heart because it's just so heartbreaking and
real um and just hard and so i i told him and we talked about it and um she sent over all the all
the things she had and we were kind of talking back and forth and one day you're gonna meet him
yeah one day i will for sure they won't come here which it'll be a neutral location like
we'll have to go to a neutral location because of political you know because of the war in ukraine so
yeah like that you guys have to meet like in paris or something yeah like uk paris like some
neutral location yeah yeah interesting because there's no direct flights from yeah us to russia
yeah right no i think you fly into the uk
and then you fly into like minsk or moscow or something i'm sure yeah how do you how do you
feel about the like the ban on adoptions where you can't like adopt from russia anymore i mean
from my perspective yeah freaking sucks because i'm sure there's two other cute little boys or
two you know girls or whatever that would just absolutely like their lives of 100 i can almost
confirm 100 would be different yeah you know maybe not as blessed and as you know where
I'm at, but I know their life would
100% be different than what they
would have received if they stayed in Russia.
Well, if you were still in Russia, you'd probably be
in the war. Well, I would have fought in the war
or I would have just died on the street.
You go to the military at 16.
They put you in the military at 16?
Well, he's a boy and he doesn't have any parents.
I mean, I would have probably went there by choice,
for sure. Because in the military, I'm thinking,
oh, they'll at least feed me. Or, you know,
I'll get to be inside. I don't know.
That's what's so sad about all these global conflicts
is the people that end up dying are always
the people that are just, that have
nothing. Like, it's just
poor people. It's people that
get sucked into it.
They're just pawns in it, right? The people
making the decisions at the top aren't actually
having to, like, go and give their life.
Right. Exactly. Man.
So, the decision to
start your own family was, like. It's a big one. It's a big one.
And we're still thinking about, you know, adopting
as well. Yeah, I was going to ask. That adoption process.
Obviously, we would have
loved to adopt from Russia, but. Yeah, adoption's
definitely, it's definitely on the table, and we'll
kind of have to navigate how all that looks.
Because, obviously, it's so much different, but
we definitely want to do it. Which is interesting
because I've actually, when I've told people that, I've
had people say to me, like, you know, I want to think
twice before adopting.
And I'm like, because, you know, people have really hard
stories, and, you know. Which is fair.
It's 100% fair.
But in
my experience, from what I've
seen, I'm like, I
can't imagine. I can't imagine him not being
here. Like, if I had the
opportunity to bring
anyone even
close to him to this, to
here, to have a better life. I would say I'm a pretty rare case.
I feel like I got. Well, I'm just saying
it. You know, the
less older you are,
like, the younger you are, you're
going to remember less naturally. So, like, if you
adopt a two-year-old or a four-year-old,
it's going to be different if you adopt an eight-year-old
or an eleven-year-old. Like, they're going to remember so
much more, and that trauma is going to be so much
harder to deal with as a parent. And when they're
freaking yelling at you that you're not their mom or you're not
their dad, like, it's just going to be so much harder.
And I had those moments. Yeah, and I had those moments because I did
it. Like, you know, you're not my mom. You don't know
anything. So, it's like, I did those moments to my parents.
And David did those moments. So, like,
I couldn't even imagine doing it with someone who's
freaking ten or eleven years old who remembers even more.
So, like, that stuff's just. It would definitely be a challenge.
It's not an easy. Like, I'm a very rare
case. You know, I'd like to think that I'm. I've been a pretty good son
to them. I didn't really. You know, I was. You know, I had my horrible moments, sure, but
I'd like to think that I was pretty good.
But that comes
from me not remembering as much.
Yeah. And I think, like, I
threatened to run away from home when I was a kid
and put, like, saltine crackers in a backpack.
Oh, yeah. I had a little suitcase.
I did that kind of crap, too. Yeah, 100%.
But, like, to imagine, like, going through that
with the adoption situation must
make the tension so much bigger.
Because, like, as a kid, you're going to be. Stuff hits way harder.
Yeah, because as a kid, you're like, yeah, they're not
my parents. I'm making the right. And, like, as
the parents, you're like, ah, like,
this is so hard. I don't know what to do.
Like, so, that's tough.
So, your parents are probably incredible
people, and you seem like a really good person,
too. So, I'm just happy that, like,
everything worked out. And it all worked out, right?
And it's also, like, you guys are living the American
dream, by the way. Like, it's cool how, like,
you're from Russia. You came here.
Now you're, like, a successful
YouTuber. Like, have a
golf channel where you and your buddies play golf.
And have a golf brand. Like,
what the F? That's so dope.
That is crazy. That's so cool. I know.
Absolutely insane.
I hate Mondays. Taylor Hansen? Sure, I'll try
one. Mmm.
Bites. Ba-da-ba-da-ba.
Taylor Hansen? Nice. Try
one. Mmm.
Bites. Ba-da-ba-da-ba-do.
But don't you love them? Sweet swellings are
good.
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let's get in some questions from our audience
because they have been
you know, so curious about
some different things. So the first question we have is from
AshK15.
She said, will Matt be taking
a break from good good with the arrival of
the new baby?
Man, break is an arbitrary
term. Like, what does that exactly mean?
I will
definitely be taking some time off if
that's kind of where we're going with
that for sure. I'm going to take
my month's sabbatical and be with
Maddie. Is that what it's called?
Yeah, month's sabbatical, taking a break,
not doing anything good good. You know, if
I need to, like, hop on a phone call
or something, like, I can do a meeting or
whatever. Very good. It's paternity leave.
Paternity leave? Sabbatical.
No, no, no, like when you take a
sabbatical, like, you're taking a. Is it? Is it? It's called paternity leave.
I know it's called PTO.
Not PTO. Oh my gosh.
That's paid time off.
No, I thought sabbatical is when
your brain, you like
mentally, I think it's when
you mentally need a break and they're like, you're going
on sabbatical. Am I making
that up? We've all never worked a job.
That's like 10 years. Yeah, I know. We're all
YouTubers and TikTokers.
I mean, I will be mentally checking out, I guess
because I'm going to be putting all of my mental focus on
this, so I guess I'm doing both.
Perfect. Anyway, big words.
Oh, that's funny. So yes, I will be taking
a minimum a month break and then, like,
our next big trip is, we're trying
to plan for Japan in September.
So, like, I'm going to
try to plan to do that. That's
exciting. Wait, what's bringing you to Japan?
I mean, we've been wanting to go over there.
It's such a huge golf country, you
know. Really? And we would love to,
we would obviously love to go do, like, a cool Japan
road trip. I think that'd be sick. Wait, are you
going to Japan? No. I was going to
say that. So brave. Absolutely not.
I'll be about six
weeks postpartum at that point. Yes.
If I give
birth again beginning of August, end of
so I think, I think six
months. Oh my gosh. Six weeks. I'll be
six weeks postpartum. And I think that's a good
Yeah. I'll be
taking a break, but I will not be leaving.
I think a lot of people will be like, oh, Matt's not, Matt
hasn't been in content for two months. Is he
quitting? Is he quitting? No.
I'll still be updating. He's just dad life.
Yeah, I'll still be updating the Instagram and freaking
still posting and still telling people about stuff. He has to.
Here's the thing. It's like
I know it's going to be hard
especially, like, leaving me and, like, the
baby, but, like,
you, you do have, find so much
purpose and you're so cute. You do
find so much purpose and
in working. You love your job. Yes, I do. And, like,
that's such a gift to, like, love what you do.
And so, like, I can't
imagine. It's becoming scarce nowadays. Like, I can't imagine
as a wife being like, oh, you can't work
anymore. You can't do good good anymore. Like,
it's, it's such, it's
been such a blessing in our lives and it's
and you love it. Yeah, I freaking love it.
It's so much fun. So. Ah, that's
sweet. But yeah, I'll take a break and then I'm getting
right back into it for sure. Yeah.
People are asking, this is from Alexis
Hope 579.
What's the baby's name? That was a bit
that was a bit of an aggressive question, Alexis.
Yeah, that's crazy. Cause like
What's the baby's name?
Period. Well, we're still kind
of figuring that out. We're 100%
sure on the last name. Okay.
It is Sharf. So there's your answer.
There you go. Yeah. So you
can count on the last name being Sharf.
And we're still figuring out, you know.
Are there any baby names that you liked that you won't
be using? Cause that's like a, that's like a trap,
you know. Aluminium.
Aluminium.
Toaster Strudel.
Toaster Strudel was kind of a big one for me.
That's a great name though, dude. I love eating
Toaster Strudel. First name Toaster, middle name Strudel.
Yeah, I thought that was gonna be kind of cool. We liked
we actually had some boy names.
Holy frick. Actually, it was funny.
We had more boy names than we did girl names.
For some reason, girl names are just harder for me. They are harder.
Boy names kind of came quick and easy. Yeah.
I'm like, I love this and this and this
and this. Like we like so, we had,
we had so many boy names that we were loving. And then
for the girl, we're like, we just don't know.
Um. I'm sorry, Alexis.
Sharp is all you get. Yeah.
We liked, we liked Anastasia. Yeah, we
did love. Because it was like a Russian kind of name.
Yeah. But we wanted to call her Anastasia.
Anastasia. But then it's like
so confusing. People won't say that. People just say
Anastasia. Cause we're
We're back in America.
Yeah.
And so we're like, probably not. Especially living in
Texas, my goodness. We have a country accent too.
Welcome Anastasia. Welcome baby.
- All right, well.
- What was the other name we talked about?
like that we didn't that we have that we put off we put off that we're not doing
uh was it another a name we had a lot of J names oh yeah like like Gemma or was
that Gemma I was like Matt I really like Jolene he goes no I said okay that's a
great Texas name people could pronounce that one right well and for a guy Matt
there was a good little moment there where Matt really wanted to name our son
Jedediah because Jedi I can name my son Jedi yeah you're a big Star Wars legos
you love like the Lego stuff yeah I was gonna name him Lego but I couldn't do
that I don't get what I want thank you I guess all these questions are for Matt
because this is from Madeline June 7 share your favorite dad joke because
apparently you just have dad jokes jokes in the frickin can oh wait do you hear
about that circus fire last week it was intense it was crazy why is why is good
good not in Arizona I feel like Arizona's like the Gulf state of America
like don't we have more golf course why - yeah we're with you like we're like
Augusta isn't like like Georgia the taxes George taxes are unbelievably good for
businesses in Texas that is great that is good but we're here but they're here a
lot I mean they do I mean I do like even if we were in Phoenix here we would be
traveling everywhere so like we probably would have done everything we still did
that makes sense yeah it was more of like our investors and everybody was
already stationed there and the people we were working with were there got it
and like they already had like plots of land that we could build our warehouse
or build our like little good good studio yeah like they already had that
and they're like we're just gonna do it here and you travel like every week
right like pretty much yeah so we weren't even gonna okay so that makes sense yeah
there we go okay um what Sid Sid dot lease said why did you return to tik-tok
Maddie why did you or why didn't you I don't know if this is a did they have a
typo have you been have you been off tik-tok you've been like taking a break
right why didn't you return oh you've been gone I well again I used to post
two videos a day I mean I was cooking you know 16 17 18 19 20 year old me was
cooking yeah I was doing all that I just I I think we're just at that point where
I think I kind of just post when I want to post what I want to post not because
I have to and there was a time where it was a survival thing I posted because I
had to yeah and and he does so much social media for the both of us now like
I mean good good it really has exploded in these last six years where I'm not
necessarily in survival mode like I was when I was like 16 which you know might
sound funny it's like you're only 16 years old but what was going on in my
life it was definitely I was in survival mode so I think I've been able to like
relax now and I'm enjoying feeling at peace not feeling straight it'd be like
a stay-at-home mom kind of thing is that and oh well we do do stuff like I help
manage most of his
like personal stuff because I love I love sending a good email and I so I still
do like stuff on that side I still do like my own content things you know just
kind of when I want to not necessarily because I have to I don't know what
that's gonna look like when I'm a mom though I don't know how much of that is
gonna change I don't know I think we're entering this
phase of a lot of like unknowns like I just I don't know what it's gonna be
like I've heard stories I've heard some people give me great things some people
say like really scary things and so it's like I well I had this girl say to me I'm
my baby people will say crazy she said she said just so you know you're gonna
absolutely hate your life oh she goes she goes all moms you're gonna hate your
life I'm like in like cute little pink dress I was like and like everyone has
their own story and everyone has their own experience and I'm not trying to you
know say that I just also I'm gonna I don't necessarily need that energy absolutely
hate my life like I I want to you know try to you know at least tell myself I
believe in the power of how we speak to ourselves and yeah what we put out there
I'm gonna try to do as much positive as I can then negative like we can still be
realistic as a woman to woman mom to mom but then also like speak highly of
motherhood like right right there are so many joy still got followed up with
something it was just it was a while yeah I was feeling pretty excited like
there's gonna be so many unknowns I don't know what it's like to have a
newborn baby I don't know what it's like to be moving in there six years I don't
know what it's like for us to be married and live together with a baby yeah like
this is a whole new chapter of our lives but I'm trying to really enjoy the last
couple of months where we close off this chapter of just him and I and then as we
start our new book like I'm excited I'm excited for it then I am you know more
nervous or anxious and it's gonna be really quick to get anxious so I'm
trying to be in like you know a state of like chill that's a great way of looking
at it that's a great hold up I just remembered a
question I have a question I have a question I have a question I have a
question that I wanted to ask that I totally forgot to ask is it true you guys
you guys did like a kids free wedding right like no kids whose idea whose idea
was no kids at the wedding kind of mix listen we had great but I mean you had a
small wedding huh yeah small wedding and we did it in like one of our good
friends is backyards well first of all call that a backyard backyard it was it
was beautiful but technically was a backyard and my mom's
boyfriend he set up this whole like lit up tent but if someone if a child were
to go and like pull on it like kick it could like caught it could like they had
a pool they had a pool with sharp edges I'm just like man last thing I need is
that it was less than like 70 people like it was a very small wedding and so
plus like my my I didn't have any friends with like babies either yeah so
it's like there wasn't there's I don't have any kids in my life obviously if
like like nowadays like three years and now I have like tons of babies in my life
if we got married right now would have been like so many flower children but I
that just wasn't the case three years ago right and so yeah but yeah we did
have a kids free kids free wedding and you know what I had a lot of parents
actually say they really enjoyed it oh yeah they were like we actually really
enjoyed this because we could just chill and like have have a date night to
ourselves yeah and I was like you're welcome let's go okay so instead of having a flower
girls did you have beer boys beer boys no we literally I had a well let's see we
had I had Garrett I had Garrett and Steve yeah it is I've never heard of beer boys they had sunglasses on there was a bunch of boys going out
I forgot about that I love that yeah I've seen that it was a disco themed wedding that we went to
remember that yeah I've seen that everyone's wearing like all bedazzled up
with like rhinestones and stuff so here's something interesting I wore the wrong thing I wore a funeral dress me too I did
my whole family is LDS so no one drinks we didn't do any alcohol one because we
we also don't drink we also don't drink because of other whole other reasons but
it was crazy to think no I think it's true I mean I'm pretty sure alcohol is
like good for you right like it's like yeah it actually really is good I heard
it's like helps you you know in every way it doesn't it doesn't cause cancer
which is like the best thing I stopped because of my own hormonal issues then he stopped because of his own
um yeah back problems and gotcha all of all of the everything which comes with that so but then it's
like okay we could buy liquor but like actually a lot of the guys don't even drink like a lot of
them are like you know recover recovering you know from their own thing oh really they're like they
were like alcoholics and they're like alcohol free now yeah I think well Bobby has a crazy story Brad
also has a crazy story yeah so um so really the only people who would really drink would be like
less than like six probably people yeah
and I'm like I'm not I'm like yeah so I I told him I told her I told Steve I said
bring BYOB bring your own coolers bring your own because but no one did because it's like I don't
know um but yeah no one in my family drinks so we just didn't even have to do that um so we didn't
so we did not have beer boys but that's a good idea right that I will give to the next person
thank you to ollie pop for sponsoring our podcast wait
why is it that like um oh in like in the in like the LDS world because nobody drinks at all like
what would be a good like beer boy like substitute would it be like uh oh it could be like a swig boy
doctoring up your soda for you in the aisle like if you had a swing at a wedding oh my
gosh well actually a swing truck okay that would pop you're at but can I say something
that's actually very common I've been to many Utah weddings where they have soda bars no way soda bars
is a it is a very normal thing that's so fun yes wait oh my gosh have you tried coffee now I do
drink coffee do you drink coffee often or you're like I actually really enjoy coffee and tea okay
I love it because um they say they don't any caffeine well that's not true I guess technically
The word of wisdom just like outlaws coffee itself.
So that way like Red Bull and Monster are cool.
And then not herbal teas.
That's right.
Herbal tea is cool.
Right.
Black tea, not cool.
Not cool.
Chai tea, not cool.
Green tea, not cool.
See, when we lived in Hawaii, we accidentally moved.
There's a lot of Mormons in Hawaii.
There are.
So all of our friends, that's why we have so many Mormon friends.
We were right by the school.
We moved five minutes from the Laie Temple on Oahu.
So like half our friends are Mormon now.
So it's like, I know this stuff, but I still love talking about it.
I think it's fun.
Oh, yeah.
No.
I love a good swig.
Most people in my life are actually LDS.
You know, like all my good friends, they're LDS.
So it's still very much a common topic, a normal thing in my life.
We just are not that.
And I have to switch between like Mormon and LDS because like people that,
like everybody knows what Mormon is, but then like the respectful term is LDS
because like that's what everybody.
Which just recently changed.
That was like five years ago, right?
Like that's not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The prophet came out and said, we don't want to be known as Mormons anymore.
We want to be known as LDS or the Latter-day Saints.
Totally.
So I have to catch myself there too because, well, growing up,
I just preferred myself as Mormon because I thought that was a good thing.
Yeah.
I didn't see it as a bad thing.
And then, you know, in the last couple of years, I'll talk with my friends.
They're like, well, as a Latter-day Saint.
And so I've been like, okay, to be respectful, I need to stop saying this Mormon thing.
I feel like they'll start saying this.
I feel like it was the musical probably.
I think it was the musical.
Yeah.
I didn't know.
The Book of Mormon.
The Book of Mormon musical really.
I think that was the reason they're like, we are going by Latter-day Saints now.
We're changing it now.
Yeah.
We got 15 minutes.
Let's ask a couple.
We'll play a little Who's More Likely action if that's okay with you guys.
Can you ask the first Who's More Likely question?
Are we competing in this game, by the way, Addie?
Do you know?
Is it just for them?
Oh, okay.
You guys are in the hot seat.
We're going to play a little Who's More Likely by We.
Okay.
You guys.
This one's fun.
This is kind of like new parent edition.
Perfect.
Soon-to-be parents.
Who's more likely to cry when the baby cries?
Like out of stress?
Just sorrow.
Pure empathy.
Pure empathy.
Well, because everything's making me cry right now.
I am so emotional because of everything.
Literally, I saw a bird limping.
I'm in tears.
No, literally.
Today at Mini Ninjas, they played You'll Be in My Heart.
And it's like, for once, so sweet.
It's like, I'm so small.
My kids are like doing the monkey bars, and I'm like.
I was crying.
Everything is making me emotional right now.
Don't listen to that song.
That one will get you.
Who's more likely to panic Google every symptom at 2 a.m.?
I feel like you would do it secretly.
No.
You would do it secretly.
No.
Get out of here with that.
First of all, I would chat GPT.
Second of all.
It's you.
Second of all, it's you.
She said she thinks you do it secretly.
No, I do not do it secretly.
I'm a man, so I know everything.
Who does it between us?
You Google.
I'm the one.
You panic, and you're like, look it up, Matt.
I don't know.
No, no.
I take him straight to the doctor.
I'm like urgent care now.
Abby is the doctor queen.
Yeah, I'll take him anytime.
When one time our kid was on the verge of croup and stuff, I went at 11.40 before the Walgreens
closed to buy a humidifier so he could breathe.
He could breathe.
Because I'm the best dad.
Yes.
Right.
Right, right, right, right.
Wow.
I don't even remember that.
You don't remember that.
Well, it's funny because I've literally already looked up a lot of random things.
I'm like, is this supposed to, just like in the pregnancy aspect.
Yeah, yeah.
Is this normal?
Oh, pregnancy opens.
Is this supposed to change colors?
Wait, let me.
Is this?
Just everything.
And the answer is yes.
Everything will be like.
I learned that now.
Yeah.
But I did not, that was something I was not prepared for.
No, I still learn new things all the time.
I'm like, wow, gosh, fourth time around.
Here we go.
Who's more likely to fall asleep during a middle of the night feeding?
Ooh.
Probably you.
Well, I've got the, I've got the, I've got, I'm feeding.
So probably you.
And then I'll wake you up to.
You will be.
You will fall asleep and you'll get in trouble for it.
Because why, why wouldn't you?
Like, I want you just like to sit there and watch as I feed, like rest, take a break and
then do the diaper change.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
He's agreeing.
Who's more likely to insist the baby looks like them?
I.
I'll take that one.
Frickin.
I, I don't know.
It's because I've already been saying that I really feel like the baby's going to look
like him.
Like I, but like also.
I got to have a couple.
So I just.
I feel like girls tend to favor their dads.
I'm impressed by these faces you're making.
Like you do these like insane facials.
I can't even, I can't even.
Yeah.
I don't even know what they are either.
Don't ask me.
I can't.
How do you get your face to do that?
I just said don't ask me.
But like for you guys.
With your kids, like do you, cause like I, I sit there.
You got to meet them after this.
I love, I love, like I'm sitting here.
I'm like, I can't wait for her to look like him.
That's what I wanted.
And then they want him.
I want him to look like me.
I'm like, I'm too old.
Not that.
But, um, I want, I want, you know, I want that so bad.
And have you guys had that at all?
I wanted my boys to look just like Matt.
They're so cute.
Rapid fire.
Okay.
Who's more likely to be overprotective in public?
He has to sit.
He has, I can't sit if he doesn't have like, okay.
I got to see the entire restaurant when I sit.
There you go.
That's what I'm going to say.
Go.
Oh, and then say me or say him or her, because then like people listening can't see us like
waving our hands.
Okay.
Him.
Male.
Okay.
All right.
The mailman.
This is so organized.
Who's more likely to turn a small disagreement into a massive brawl?
Female.
Why don't I raise my hand?
Female.
Woman.
Maddie.
You go female, male.
Oh my God.
What am I doing?
Who's more likely to need alone time?
Probably me.
Maddie.
I don't know.
I feel like that's going to be you, because you're going to be, there's going to be a
baby on you 24-7.
Yeah, so probably me, right?
Maddie.
Fail.
Vote.
Female.
Who's more likely to overshare online?
Maddie.
No.
So false.
So false.
He'll do streaming stuff.
I thought you were saying pull and pray.
That's definitely Matt.
He's a streamer.
I didn't know he was a streamer.
Yeah.
As I'm like, pull and pray.
Yeah, no kidding.
Everything's changing colors.
Everything's changing.
Hi, we can talk about that all day, because I got you.
Who is more likely to read comments?
Matt.
Matt.
Yeah, for sure.
It's my life I do it 24-7.
That's our same, too.
Who is more likely to buy unnecessary baby gadgets?
Maddie.
First of all, unnecessary or necessary?
Both.
Wait, when you read comments, are you reading like positive stuff?
No, I read the negative stuff, Matt, that freaking ruins my life.
What kind of question is that?
Well, you could read a hundred good comments, and then one bad comment can just. Just tanks my life.
It really hurts.
Gosh, dang it.
It tanks my life.
I know, I know.
It tanks my life.
Which you do get a lot of. You tend to get more. I tend to get a lot more hate, but that's for another combo.
Oh, no.
It's just because he's himself.
No, it's horrible.
You can't be sorry.
People don't pick up on the sarcasm.
That is so not what I meant.
I meant because he's. Some people just don't like him.
No, no, no.
He's just. It actually breaks my heart because he's like the sweetest person ever.
It's because he's really funny.
Oh, my gosh.
He's really funny, but people don't like the humor.
People always think it's forced and like on purpose he's trying to do it.
But it's just who he is.
I'm sorry.
You guys have already seen multiple times him do some kind of funny little things over here.
I was raised in a dry sarcasm.
I was raised in a sarcastic family.
It just makes. It's a language that some people just don't know.
It's just. Yeah.
The internet doesn't know.
Yeah.
I don't know about my brother.
He's just funny.
Exactly.
The reason that you're getting hate is the very reason that my brother-in-law likes your videos.
Because it's the dry humor.
That's why he has some of the strongest fans and the strongest families at the same time.
People love him.
I have the best fans and then I have the people that hate me.
It's like that's kind of weird.
The people that hate you just probably don't understand comedy.
That's literally what I say.
They're just a lower IQ.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah.
Wow.
Boom.
No, 100%.
Gross.
I don't read comedy.
Abby doesn't read comedy.
No, 100%.
I'm wheezing too much.
First of all, people who hate comments already, I just think have a lot of. What are you doing in your life?
You just kind of feel bad, dude.
You're so miserable that you're going to go comment on this person's video something just to hurt them.
Yeah.
It's like, good job, buddy.
Good job.
I hope you feel big now.
I know.
Who's more likely to be the fun parent?
What is fun?
Goofy.
Matt.
Fine, I'll take that one.
I feel like kids like Goofy, you know?
Who's more likely to start talking about baby number two?
I feel like that's going to be you.
No?
I don't know.
Dang it, that's another mixed one.
You should be prepared.
There's something that hits at six months postpartum that just like. It just. That keeps you away or keeps you want?
It makes you want to do it right away.
Baby fever.
That's what they say.
They say like the mom's like,
I hate this, it sucks.
And then they have the baby and they're like,
you know what?
I can do that again.
Yeah, literally.
Literally.
It's crazy.
We have a friend who the guy's like,
I want a baby right now.
She's like, I need a sec.
Yeah, I know that.
I know people like that too.
I'm just sick in the head.
Who is more likely to turn into a baby when they're sick?
Hey, I like that honesty.
Self-awareness.
But here's the thing.
He's really not sick often.
And with my periods,
it's like I'm sick a couple of days every month.
And so he takes care of me like so,
often. I'm looking at myself.
No!
he takes care of me so much so like the very few times that he's ever sick i let her have it
freaking you kidding me who's more likely to make the parenting rules like be the stricter parent
that's gonna be such a mix we we actually align on like most like we'll talk and if like if someone
says i don't necessarily know if i agree with that and then we talk about it and then we're
on the 100 for the same i love that that's very healthy who's more likely to take on an intruder
well even with all the whole just in case series you just that's how you'd be right
we've actually talked about the cats no it'll be me here's what here's what we've talked about
i my first my first instinct is gonna go to get the baby like yeah that's gonna be me person you
you go do that i mean he just went she was shooting a couple days ago with
yeah some of the
guys in my family and you're a good shot you actually are good for me like my as long as you
have your glasses on like for me the middle of the night i'm just i'm just a little delirious i i don't
know i think that's and i and i low-key think in like the weirdest way you kind of low-key want it
it's like you kind of low-key want like a zombie apocalypse every dude does right they all want
the zombie apocalypse he believes like he's like if the zombie apocalypse happens i i will survive
and i'm like unless you lose your glasses unless you lose
your glasses that was our last one that was good well hey you guys this was amazing this was so
much fun getting to chat with you both where's the best place for people to connect with you
both online instagram probably instagram um i mean you know youtube for me i read comments and stuff
and i'll talk to you guys through there but yeah probably instagram is is the easiest way
yeah or join his streaming stuff or join my streams match our fun youtube whatever or shout
out well sweet you guys well this was this was amazing we uh we really enjoyed laughing with you
guys this is fun this is so fun yeah i genuinely laughed a lot yeah let's go i'm so glad we could
do a little pit stop on a yeah i think we're doing that seriously perfectly everyone go follow them
i have a baby name prediction and like the button i want to oh my i think it's gonna be star wars
coded in some way okay oh interesting you have a name that goes with that i need to do a baby yoga
leia leia
that's the only star wars girl name i know is that russian that's not russian no bonus points
if it's russian in some way it's one of the only leia's probably one of the only girl names in
star wars that isn't like uh i know our kids are like young jedi which you might find is on disney
plus it's like oh yes young jedi okay kids show and they will have the books and i'm like
like i can't like you're not naming your kid padme or sabine i might need to consult you
so i can read some of their books more accurately
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Matt and Maddie met online on TikTok after being impressed by a Jack Sparrow impression, forming a strong friendship that evolved into a romantic relationship.
Their long-distance relationship, strengthened by frequent communication and shared humor, led to a quick move-in and marriage after just a few months of dating.
They have a unique, joyful engagement story in Greece, where both were engaged simultaneously, and now welcome their first child.
Matt was adopted as a child from a Russian orphanage and grew up in a non-denominational Christian household, while Maddie grew up in a strict Mormon culture, which influenced their personal and spiritual journeys.
The couple values authenticity, humor, and deep connection, and they have built a supportive, close-knit community in Texas, including family and friends who now live nearby.
They experienced a significant shift in their lives with pregnancy, which brought both relief from painful periods and new challenges, including an endometriosis surgery scheduled before they found out they were pregnant.
Their relationship is grounded in mutual respect, shared values, and a commitment to living authentically, even amid unexpected life changes.
They promote wellness brands like Quince for quality, affordable clothing and Kindred Bravely for supportive, inclusive maternity apparel, emphasizing comfort and body positivity during pregnancy and postpartum.
Summary:
Matt and Maddie, a popular TikTok couple, share their heartfelt journey from meeting online to getting married and welcoming their first child. They first connected through a viral Jack Sparrow impression on TikTok, bonding over humor and authenticity before transitioning into a long-distance relationship. After moving to Texas and overcoming family and cultural barriers—including Maddie’s upbringing in a strict Mormon community—both found emotional and spiritual clarity.
Their engagement in Greece, where both were proposed to simultaneously, became a symbol of joy and shared happiness. They now face the excitement and challenges of pregnancy, which has brought relief from chronic period pain but also required medical intervention. Their story reflects a deep, genuine connection rooted in shared values, humor, and mutual support.
The couple values authenticity and comfort in everyday life, which they highlight through recommendations of brands like Quince and Kindred Bravely—offering high-quality, inclusive clothing and maternity wear. They emphasize that unplanned moments, like pregnancy, can be transformative, and they remain open to life’s unexpected turns. The episode blends personal stories with lifestyle and wellness tips, affirming their journey as both a romantic and life-changing experience.
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Matt and Maddie's clothing, including their favorite khaki shorts and swim trunks, comes from Quince. They appreciate the variety and quality of the clothing, which fits well across different seasons and styles.
Quince works directly with ethical factories, ensuring fair labor practices and environmental responsibility. This approach eliminates unnecessary middlemen and supports transparency in the supply chain.
Matt and Maddie are expecting their first child and have been married for nearly three years. They share a strong bond and have been actively preparing for parenthood, including learning about the experiences of pregnancy and parenting.
They met online on TikTok after being drawn to each other's content. Matt was impressed by a joke video involving a Jack Sparrow impression, and they began communicating through Instagram and Snapchat, eventually building a strong friendship before meeting in person.
They have been doing 'pull and pray' for several years as part of their relationship, and their baby came as a surprise. They believe they are good at it and see it as part of their journey, reflecting on how faith and intention play a role in their life decisions.
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