Hi, Vestys. We are back for season two after three months off. We're so excited and you can now watch your ADHD Vestys podcast episodes on YouTube. We've finally started filming them. We are uploading them every week. So head across now, look for us on YouTube or there's a link in the description of this podcast episode. And this podcast episode is brought to you by our brand new snack hacker. Over 300 of you have already gone and downloaded it. It's created by Tara to help you with that feeling you get when you open the fridge and you've got no idea what to get and you're just overwhelmed. I have been using it and I'm absolutely obsessed with it. So go and check it out on future ADHD.com and onto the episode. I'm reticent to share this moment because people might hate me. I think this is one of my low moment. It's very easy to become a ride Zilla on your radio show. It's really just emotional dysregulation. Hello and welcome to your ADHD Vestys. The podcast, people who cannot be trusted to look after their own birth certificates. Mine is currently in my mum's office and that is a true story. Thanks Mum. I'm Tara Bruso, dietician and diagnosed ADHD. And I'm Grace Coolmer, founder of future ADHD and diagnosed ADHD as well. Grace mimes me saying your name. Yep, just remind you what you're in. And profession. And I just do a little dance when she says hers. I just get like I'm just so like proud of you for existing and doing stuff and I just love it. Okay, by the way, before we start, we need to mention that Tara, this is a disclaimer at the beginning of the episode. Tara has accidentally taken her ADHD meds today. I have. Usually we don't usually record on this day. Yeah, this is usually our work day. Yeah. So we both usually take meds on a day. We're just doing like the editing and the admin. Yes, just so that we can focus and get through it. We don't like to take it on the days that we record. We don't we've said this before because we just aren't ourselves this much. We want to be as unmasked as possible. Unmasked. Unhinged. And today I have had my meds. Yeah. But we figured it's okay because we're doing a dietician heavy episode today anyway. Part two of weight and eating. Yes. And this is what I am like when I'm with my clients because I medicate when I am doing my professional job. Yeah. Yes. So it's perfect. It's perfect. So. But I may not be the same Tara that usually get. Which will just be fun for everyone. And it's a great demonstration. It is. Yes. The ADHD brain on meds. Yes. So Tara. Yes. Tell me. How are you and what was the most ADHD thing that happened to you this week? I'm good. I'm very serious and focused today. Yes. The most ADHD thing that I did this week was I actually had a little bit of a like not a sad moment. But me this morning I got a little bit upset because my husband got frustrated with me. And that was fair because it has taken me. I got a new phone because my other one smashed naturally because I'm ADHD. Yes. And I have taken three months to get my card and all the banking and stuff set up on my phone. That is such a hassle. It's just one of those things that you think is so firstly it's got the executive functioning element. So you go, I don't, you know, I'm a bit put off doing that. I don't really want to do that. It's all everything I want. It's everything. It's overwhelming. And also, you know, like when you have to get texts and you have to wait for the text and then you forget while the text is coming through and they have to put the code. Anyway, so I keep calling him when I'm at the checkout. And being like, you need to put money into my account right now, which is very stressful for him. And he only got frustrated with me because he's worried that because he's about to go away. Yeah. And he's about to get on a plane. And he's like, what if my wife with our two kids runs out of money and she stuck somewhere and can't get fuel to get to the hospital if she needed to or whatever it was. So he got frustrated about that, but I got upset because I feel like and I wonder about other people resonate with this. I get why he's upset he has every right that is really a, that's a frustrating situation. And if he puts himself in, you know, not danger, but if he puts themselves in self in a situation like that, it makes me feel stressed as well. But I don't feel complicit. So like I'm apologizing, but I don't feel like I have been there going, no, I can't be bothered. Yeah, it's like things happen, things get in the way I get distracted. And then I feel like I'm apologizing for something that I actually didn't intentionally do. And I think ADHD has do that a lot. And it's really hard. It's like, I'm so sorry for this. I'm so sorry that I didn't apply to you. And it's like, I didn't intentionally go, there's my friend messaging me. I don't want to reply. It's like, I can't with that right now. And then we can completely forget. And then we come back to you excited. And we're always there with the appart. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And we're apologizing a lot for just being ourselves. And I think that that can be great at your self esteem and those sorts of things. So yes. Yes. And also I feel like there's that thing that when you make an apology, it's sort of implicit that you're maybe going to try not to do that thing again. Or it's like, I'm really sorry. I can try not to do that next time. But we will do it again. Yes. So apologizing is difficult. And I do feel like, obviously, we just want to acknowledge other person is inconvenience, just frustrating for them. Yeah. We're not always trying to be like, we're ADHD. We get off like that's our excuse in life. And no one can ever get angry at us. Yes. But it is hard, as you said, to feel like you're always apologizing and nothing really ever improves. Yes. I, one of my favorite examples of not doing that was I messaged friend of the pod Chloe Wilder one day. And I said, our family, because we were going over there for dinner. And I said, our family is 30 minutes late. And if you haven't worked out that we're always going to be 30 minutes late by now, then shame on you. Yes. And she said, no shame on me because I already factor that in. Yes. Our friends do. They do. And I think if you're a neurotypical person listening to this right now, being saying those things out loud and saying it's okay that you're late and making your neurodivergent friends and family members feel like you accept those parts of them just goes such a long way. Yes. So please do reach out and sort of say, I actually don't mind when people are a little bit late. Yes. You know, because there's a difference. I know that if someone and that's the thing that I was trying to get into there is that it's not intentional. You know, when ADHD is don't see time when we see time differently. We then arrive late and the person might go, that late, I'm offended. If someone can see time and is aware of the time and then goes, I can't be bothered meeting that person at this time. That is offensive. And that is them thinking, I'm going to choose my own needs over yours. But that's not what an ADHD is doing most of the time. Most of the time, we're not really complicit in the problem or we're not mentally present in being complicit. And that's the tricky thing is that we're having to apologize for these things as if we're neurotypical and as if we planned it or didn't care for the reality is that it's not actually what's happened. Yeah. Oh, we're getting deep into the nuts and this is medicated Tara, it is getting in there. She is tackling the biggest issues in our world. So moving on, how are you little way to press and what most ADHD thing that you did this week. I am great. I got away with my husband this week. Yeah, nice while my parents were visiting for his be day for his be day. So we are feeling refreshed from that. But despite how refreshed I feel, I will never be my best self in the mornings and the most ADHD thing that happened to me this week happened about an hour ago. So I got up to make my morning coffee. My husband's amazing. He often will clean my coffee machine because I'm so an attentive I'll forget to do that. So often the pieces will be like in the washing thing to put back in. I was doing all of it on autopilot. And I have an espresso machine. So you have to put the little filter basket with the handle under the coffee grinder. So I ground the coffee in. And as I went to put it under the group had I think it's called whatever that thing is. The thing on the machine. I was like, it looks a bit different. Like you know when you consider sense that it's not quite the same way to what I kept on looking at it like what's different about it. And I said, I think that actually the basket thing was had been clean and was out of it. But I couldn't tell because the coffee was already in there. And I stood there for a while looking and then I was like, I started looking for the metal basket and I kind of gave up because I couldn't find it. And I was like, do you know what? Am I just put it in the machine? Oh my god, you know, just see what happened. No, no, because I was so tired and it's like just straining pasta without a strainer. I thought, you know, maybe there's an off chance that I'm wrong here. And then actually everything's fine. That's the ADHD. I know this isn't going to work. But you know what? It might. One in a hundred times it does work. It's uninformed optimism. That's what it is. And so yeah, very low dopamine moment for me. So I put it in and I was like, so like had my face down near where the coffee comes out. Oh my god, I think it's going to happen. And then the whole thing exploded. And coffee went all over the walls, all over the fridge, all over the floor. It was absolutely. And my husband, I did make him and my husband was out. And all I was like, I was just angry at him. Like that. Cleaning your basket. Clean the basket and not telling me even though it was absolutely my fault as an inattentive ADHD. I he was out of the house. So I just raged at him mentally for about five minutes. Then I cleaned the whole thing up. And then I had to I couldn't have my coffee. I'd wait till he got home because I was so incapable of searching high and low. So just regular. And I was like, I can't find that stupid basket. I reckon someone's thrown in the bin. I reckon it's gone. And then he came home. He's like, it's run into that cup. And I was like, well, that's. So that was my morning. And I also burnt the toast in all of that. So I had the whole thing was just my husband came in and was like, did you burn toast? I love how you mentioned burning toast as if you normally don't burn toast. I always burn toast. But this morning I was like, it was that expensive bread. And I was like, I'm not going to burn it. It's that nice market sourdough bread. And then I did burn it. Every time I walk into Grace's house, I'm like, have I had a stroke because I smell burnt toast every single time. Yeah. That's the aroma of your house. Yeah. It's kind of my signature dish. It is a signature dish. So yeah, that's how I'm going. Well, that is just that just sums up the ADHD. I will try and save two minutes of time and then ending up making two hours of work yourself. Okay. Let's move on to Rex. Yes. What have you got me today, my babe? I am recommending a podcast. And it's called Good Bad Billionaire. It's a BBC series. And it's just great. It just takes a billion in and talks about how they got there. And then it talks about, you know, whether they did it ethically and what they've done to support, you know, others or their charities and things like that. And then they assess whether they're good or a bad billionaire. So they're not interviewing them clearly. They're not interviewing what they're going through their story of how they became a billionaire. And where they came from. Whether they were rags or riches, that sort of thing. I was just imagining if it was interview, like you're interviewing someone about like, are you ethical? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. So they've done, I've listened to a few of them. They're really good. I really enjoyed the Rihanna one. And also the Taylor Swift one. They're Mark Zuckerberg ones good as well. But check it out because it's a really good listen. I learned a lot of stuff that I didn't know about each of the celebrities. That's not all the billionaires. Yeah. It's really good. Sounds like a good one for cleaning the house. Yeah. It's a good body to believe one. Yeah. So you don't have to be 100% focused. You can sort of tap in and out of the story. Yeah. Love that, babe. Short and sharp from you today. And I do have to mention that is a wreck from my husband. Yes. I'm still here. Shout out to Jessie. Look, we have been stealing a lot of wrecks lately. And it's not going to stop anytime soon. It is. I have yet again another stolen wreck from one of our incredible Instagram followers. Good. This comes from Gabby. Hi Gabby. Hi Gabby. She wanted to share this wreck with everyone. And I said, I love this. I have to share it on the pod. So basically Gabby said that when she's on Google maps. And she say you have an appointment. And it's like say it's an important one. And you don't want to be late for it. And maybe you make the appointment. And it's in a week. You can go into Google maps, put in the address of the appointment. Yeah. And then press directions. And it gives you that blue line on Google maps. Yeah. And then you scroll down past the like turn right on this street staff all the way to the bottom. And it says the turn right on this street stuff to the directions. Yep. Thanks for that translation. And at the bottom, there is a button that says remind you to leave one time. And you toggle that. I'm doing that now. I was to show Tara. And my god, it says leave or arrive. So you would select arrive and put in your appointment time. So I'm putting in a midday appointment. And I'm going to do it for next Monday. So it's in a whole week's time. And then you can set your reminder. And it's come up saying for a 1245 arrival time, you'll get a reminder to leave at 1145. Oh my god. So you can do that as you book the appointment for weeks or months and events. Oh my gosh. And then your phone will come up telling you what time to leave on the day of your appointment. That is amazing. And Gabby said it's been a game changer. I haven't tried it yet. I've just tested it now on my phone. And I can already see I'm going to be obsessed with this feature. Oh my god. Do you know what other feature I love on that note on Apple reminders? So when you set a reminder on your Apple phone, you can actually do a location reminder, which I have found so helpful for things like. So this is in the reminders app. Yes, like where you make lists and set reminders. Yes. Yes. So for example, if you've gotten, I live 30 minutes from my house. Oh, sorry. I lived there. Well, leaving that in. Try to set actually is 30 minutes from her house. 30 here. I live a 30 minutes from town. And say I forgot on my meds. Right. I then can set the reminder for when I arrive home. So I can set the location to be my house. Yeah. So that when I arrive home, and my phone comes into that location, then it will send me the reminder to say, take your meds. So you've got a reminder that says take meds and it's linked to your house so that it will remind you when your phone is at your house. When my phone's at my house. I'm not going to remind you when you're off somewhere else. No, access your meds. Genius. It's so genius. I love it. I love it. And also like for the supermarket. Like say, you just remember, I need tampons for next month for whatever it is. Then when you're in town at the supermarket and you're getting your standard stuff, it just goes down. Yes. It'll come on. Yeah. It's so helpful. We're all about the tech wrecks today, aren't we? I just love a tech wreck, babe. Okay. You know me. Okay, moving on. It is time for some day days, some divergent alins. Let's get into it, baby. So I think before we get into it, we need to have a disclaimer. Yes, I agree, because we might go rogue. In fact, we will go rogue. Going rogue is kind of my favourite. But probably best to just disclaim away. Yes. Okay. So how about this? Take everything we say with a new divergent grain of salt. Yes, an enormous grain of salt, like a salt lamp sized kind of salt. Take that salt lamp, throw it through a window. That's how much you should pay attention to what we're saying. But don't actually throw it through a window though. See, that's a really good example of why you shouldn't take out. Case in point. But yeah, we're not professionals and enjoy. So today we are doing part two all about ADHD, weight, eating and diet. So let's start with a dilemma from Brit. And Brit says, hey, girls, I've been loving the content in your podcast lately. I was diagnosed with ADHD last May halfway through my nursing degree. Oh, congratulations. Let's just say it's been a wild ride since. I mainly wanted to reach out to Tara for some neurodivergent, friendly dietitian advice. I've listened to the episode where you discussed food with Grace when she first started taking meds. However, I was wondering if you have any tips or resources that could help me eat a bit healthier. I've just recently moved out for the first time and I'm on my last nursing placement working 40 hours a week. So I'm struggling to come up with lunch and dinner ideas that are healthy and energising for me, but don't include anything that gives me the ik. Please let me know if you can help Brit. Okay, this is a hard one to answer when I don't know what the ik is specifically Brit because we all have different sensory stuff. If I can hazard a guess, I'm thinking that it's probably veggies that have been pre-cooked and things like that. That's often a problem that ADHD has have. When they're really busy, pre-making food can often not work for us because we get the it from leftovers because as the vegetables get frozen or sit in the fridge, they disintegrate more and we can't handle those textures as well. I would firstly suggest eating the whole veggie or half a veggie each time you eat to simplify things. So we don't have to always be having a salad with 20 different ingredients. If you get say a red cabbage and you make a coleslaw for yourself alongside your dinner that night, that's fine to just have that one vegetable and then the next day you might just have three carrots alongside your dinner and the next day you might have some raw broccoli or whatever it is. It doesn't always have to be this complicated mix of foods. And often when we're stressed and busy, we find that sensory experience more overwhelming. And so having that single veggie can help us to be okay with the texture because we're eating the same thing, we know what to expect throughout the meal. The other thing is that that means we have less waste usually because if you're using a whole veggie or half the veggie, you're using it maybe you use half of the, maybe you buy half a red cabbage, you cut it in half, you use half of it for that meal and maybe you eat that as a coleslaw. The next day you might have the other half and then it's gone and that's not rotting in your fridge. A lot of my ADHD clients feel guilty about their food waste and they will have half of a mushroom and half of a tomato and half of this and half of that. And they think they're going to use it again, but in reality if we leave it sort of four or five days, we're going to find it a really big, overwhelming thing to be able to eat that food once it's sort of gone a little bit soft and been exposed to oxygen and things like that. So I love that tip though of just eating one vegetable. It's so free. Yes, just eat the one, just have peas with your meal or just have broccoli or just have this and we want to make sure that we get fiber, but we're going to get that fiber and it might be the same type of nutrients. But then the next day you're having something different and you're still getting those veggies in, but if we have to think about chopping up a whole load of different foods and adjusting our cooking and stuff to those foods, it can be so tricky. Especially I want to add here because this is something I struggle with, I relate to a lot of what Ritz said, so I'm very much taking on everything you're saying Tara. I really struggle with the different cooking times of different vegetables. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, yeah. So having to plan the meal around like and I always forget like peas are really quick and potatoes are like long and just like I always feel a bit embarrassed when someone comes over and I've put in something too early or too late and then it's like they've caught me out because I can't really remember all these rules. Yes, I mean, and it's also that sensory struggle like my least favorite food is stir fry because my mom was very much like throw everything in and let it marinate. She's a fantastic cook when it comes to the cuisine that she's really good at, but she used to make these, you know, a quick stir fry when we're younger because she's like, I need to get veggies into the kids and she's just someone that can handle like veggies or marinating in like different textures and I can't. And so when someone says stir fry, I just those floppy carrots. I just can't love it. She would do like a full on like carrot stick. Yeah, floppy. Yeah, sort of like when you get it on your phone. Oh my god, no, no, I can't. I cannot. I'm never saying dingle dangle on the podcast. Ever again, I'm sorry. You're fired. Watch out your ears. I'm so sorry that you guys had to hear dingle dangle now three times. Yeah, this is horrible. So yeah, stick into that one also with the executive functioning of cooking. We often will be able to get into that sort of more meditative state or focus on the podcast that we're listening to or whatever we're doing if we're doing that one thing. So say we're going back to that red cabbage. So we're making that coleslaw for dinner. You know, just getting into the mode of just thinly slicing that over and over and over again. Even if it takes the same amount of time to cut up five different vegetables, that executive functioning of having to change and think about what we're doing and, you know, taking the little bit out of the top of the tomato and cutting off the end of the cucumber or peeling whatever unit. That becomes overwhelming for our brains, whereas if we just when we're in those phases of feeling like we've got a lot of executive functioning that is needed throughout the day. If we reduce down to just the one vegetable per night and we can get into that meditative state, well, we're, well, we're making that food. I have another question as well. It's sort of like a different strategy and I'd love to know your thoughts on it. So sometimes we make like a curry or something and curries often don't have a lot of veg, especially if we were mentioned before cocoa earth, one of our favorite frozen curry. So if you're just quickly trying to like make one of, you know, one of those curry and rice, there's actually not a lot of veg in it. Or if you're getting takeaway, they often don't put like one of our favorite Malaysian places in town. They don't put a lot of veggies in the dishes. One of my favorite things because I'm not a cook and so often if I have to do a quick meal, I'll just chop up carrot. I can't even think now carrots. Guys, what do I chop up? OK, roast veggies babe, help me out here. What is a good tray of roast veggies? Carrots. Sweet potato. Collie flour. Broccoli. Broccoli. Broccoli. Broccoli. I say broccoli. Broccoli is not a word. I think it's an East Coast thing. No, it's not. And potato. Eric's saying you said that it's not an East Coast thing. I'm the only broccoli person I know. Our kids are very confused because they say broccoli and broccoli and they have the issues. Why would you want to add the word "I" to something? If you don't need to. I such a gross word. It makes me think of an "I" anyway. So I will just do a whole tray of roast veggies and just have veggies without protein because it's overwhelming cooking protein that night. Just a tray of roast veggies. If I'm doing that twice a week and then I'm having curries on other nights without veg, is that a way to kind of do meat one night and then a whole tray of veggies the next night? As long as across the whole week I'm getting a decent intake of everything? You can do it that way. With a veggie tray, I would always say add some kind of marinated protein or something just directly into the tray. Just because we do want to have protein at every meal. Otherwise, our blood glucose levels are not as stable. We don't think it's clearly, it can affect our mood. And we also more likely to get really hungry after dinner and then that can put some people at risk of binging. So I would say but definitely it doesn't have to be every day. Definitely we can have a really big salad one night and then the next night have less veggies and that's okay. And as long as we're getting it sort of over the week. Another good thing to note is that we want to be getting diversity in our fiber. So fiber is the part of a plant based food that we as humans can't digest without enzymes. So we can't break them apart. They won't be broken apart and they won't go across the gut wall and into our bloodstream. Right. Who does eat that food? Well, who does eat that fiber is our gut bacteria. So the little gut bugs that live in our intestines, they go blow it up and it helps to keep them healthy and happy. Right. So we want our gut bacteria to be really diverse because the more diversity, the stronger that our immune system is going to be. And if you think about a football team, right, you don't want to just have all of the same size guy on a football team. You want different kinds of people. We have a sport here in Australia called AFL. We have really tall rockmen, the other ones who grab the ball when it's really high in the air before anyone else can. But then we have small boards that are faster and agile. Yeah, agile. We have defenders and they usually built a bit more solidly. This is how I want you to think of your gut bacteria is that you want it to be diverse so that whatever's sort of coming in from the environment, we can fight against. And we each of these different gut bacteria, each of these different football players, all eight different types of fiber. So if we're just getting the one type, we might end up with all of these tall rockmen. But then we don't have any defense when we need that defense against a certain type of bacteria that's coming in. Some reason I'm like picturing the rockmen liking carrots. And I'm picturing along. And I'm picturing a small fort leather pea. Yeah, yeah, like a nippy pea and then maybe broccoli for the. No, stop saying broccoli. So it's just so triggered right now. So anyway, this terrible analogy, what I'm trying to say. I love this analogy. This is helpful. Is that we want that diversity. So we don't want to be just eating the same fibers every week. And people hear this and especially my ADHD clients and they go, oh no, that's really overwhelming because I feel like I like these certain foods and that's all I want to eat. And what I want to say to that is break it down so that it's a little bit more easy. So we can do things like create a seed sprinkle or a nut sprinkle that we can then sprinkle on sprinkle on our cereal with yogurt or whatever it is. So we want to get that diversity. So instead of just buying chia seeds buy some chia seeds buy some linseeds buy some pepitas buy some sunflower seeds buy as many different things like that as you can. You can blend them all up if you don't like the variations and textures and then sprinkle those on you're getting all of these. You're getting all of these different fibers in that meal so easily like you can get up to you know 15 different types of fiber in that meal and that's feeding all of those different gut bugs herbs and spices they also count as different types of plant based fiber. And also with veggies that you don't like what I like to suggest is going to the supermarket once a month and going which of these can I not tolerate at all. Getting those doing a big cook up of them maybe steaming them all and then pureing them down and popping them into the small muffin sized or mini muffin sized silicon trays and making veggie bombs. And then when you make a meal like a pasta or a curry you can pop one of those or two of those in there the texture should be uniform so it won't make you feel you know like it's too much and hopefully the flavor of the actual meal the base covers the other flavors if you don't like them. You're getting those fibers that you might be missing for the rest of the month and then if you're having those days we just don't feel like veggies you're sort of covering yourself with those fibers. I love this idea but I have to be honest it also sounds a bit overwhelming because it's I really struggle with a lot of executive functioning steps but I was thinking of two things one that if you're feeling like me and you're like I really want to do that seeds and nuts thing to get all of my fibers in. Grab a bestie, grab a friend and do it with them on a Saturday or on a weekend and then you set yourself up for a couple of months also I know not not everyone has someone like that to do it with so I think we should do something where we make a time where we can all hang out together with our besties podcast episode maybe a live call and we can all make this together yeah that's a really good idea. So if you guys want us to do that let us know because I would personally love that I would really struggle to do this but if I have a whole bunch of people doing it at the same time it'll motivate me and then I've got a couple of months sorted with lots of different fiber options. Yeah make those little veggie bombs so yeah let us DM us on Instagram or email us at
[email protected] if you want us to do it. That is a great plan. Yeah love a plan. And I love what I love on the pod is how you will always say if you find if you're finding it too hard or not and that's so great because it's what my clients say to me as well and they say you know yeah that sounds like a great idea and I understand because I have ADHD too. I get that when you get given this task it can be it can sound really overwhelming and I guess the takeaway from this is try and reduce the overwhelm by choosing single single veggies if you need to. If you aren't tolerating veggies that month just remember that fruit is also full fiber and it's got vitamins and minerals in it. We don't have to be perfect with these things and if you're finding if you if you give yourself time to when you get to the supermarket to go where am I at at the moment what level can I handle and bring it down to that level and then just tap into whatever you can. And if it's just making a single ingredient salad every day that week that's okay if it's having a bowl of fruit salad which is my worst nightmare because of the sensory oh my god banana swimming in orange juice. Yeah. Kill me. But if that's what you like. Which no one's ever going to want. No, if you want to eat different fruits for dessert and that's your fiber at this moment in time because it's just too overwhelming that's okay as well you get nutrients you get fiber from that. With the nuts and seeds you can also buy pre ground so you can buy LSA mix and you could add some hemp seeds and some chia seeds to that and you don't actually need to do any food processing or anything like that. So you can you can do it without creating too much work for yourself. Yeah. Or even if it is just you don't normally eat chia seeds and you're going to bring them in and just add a tiny sprinkle to your salad that's adding more fiber into your life. We don't have to have perfection and question your idea of perfection around food as well because I asked my clients intentionally at the beginning of every session that we do when we first start out in my intake session. They say do you what what does perfect eating look like to you because I want to hear the language that they use around food and I want to know what whether it aligns with what I think healthy balance eating is. And more often than not it won't be because we have this idea in our society that we should really be eating steamed fish and green veggies every night with those sources and that if we don't wear unhealthy. And we need to just bring that back to reality and realize that as 88 years we need food for stimulation sometimes or a lot of the time we need to have pleasure in eating we need to have those sources on there that make it exciting. We there's a place for all foods and we don't want to put the pressure on that we have to eat vegetables all the time and fruit all the time because as soon as we do that. It makes us feel overwhelmed it can set off our demand avoidance and then suddenly it's something that we don't want to eat where it's if we just say how can I bring in more veggies at this moment in time. And that is really realistic for me and see what happens when we do that. We're just trying to pick one thing to try instead of feeling like you need to use all of the tips that we've talked about in this dilemma because it's just then we'll just overcomplicate it and then we'll think that's too hard I'm not going to do anything. Another just a quick note another thing that you can do to bring more fiber into your into your diet is smoothies so we can bring if you haven't if you make smoothies for yourself if that's something that you like if that's a good way for you to actually get to get fruit and veggies in because you struggle with anything that's smooth textures around fruit and veggies. Adding spinach to your smoothies adding seeds and nuts to your smoothies and add all different types of nuts and they make your smoothies creamy usually we can add avocado to smoothies there's so many different things that you can add that can be frozen which is long life. So think outside the box a little bit and stop aiming for that steamed fish and collard greens perfection because that's not the reality of eating. And there are so many different ways of eating that can be balanced and so many creative ways to do it as well as what I'm hearing yeah exactly and I love to smear the tip because smoothies also turn into smoothie balls so you can I mean I know it sounds obvious but like if you don't want to drink it from a cup if you want to pop in a bowl eat it with a spoon they're just there's so many options. It's sprinkle your chia seeds on top beautiful your nuts yeah love that yeah. Okay so when we mentioned we were doing a mini series on weight and diet and eating with ADHD we asked our Instagram audience to send us questions and so we have a bunch of shorter questions and I'm going to rapid fire them at time now and we're just going to get through a whole bunch of them for the rest of the segments yes so let's do it. Okay first question how can I get control of my impulsive snacking please help with lots of peas and a melting smile face our favorite emoji. That is a great question and I get asked this a lot and the important thing to do here is not to say okay I'm eating chocolate I shouldn't eat chocolate anymore. The important thing to do is to say what am I snacking on so do a what why when and how and look at yourself and go what am I snacking on firstly so is it a cold snack is it a smooth snack is it crunchy because you have to remember that ADHD is a sensory seeking often our systems that for a neurotypical person might be aligned are a little bit unaligned. So if you think about our vestibular and progressive systems these aren't usually in balance like they are for someone who's neurotypical and that's why you'll see the typical when you when people think of ADHD they think of the typical little boy that's running around jumping and flinging himself off the couch and upside down and those sorts of things and you see ADHD kids often they'll be upside down because they're trying to regulate those systems that are regulated in neurotypical kids right yeah we are also as adults we're able to most of the time regulate ourselves enough so that we're not needing to go upside down on the couch although grace and I have been known to try and record upside down we yeah and but we're also still trying to do that as adults we didn't just suddenly become regulated in those systems as we got over we just changed our strategies we changed our strategies and food is a really easy way to regulate those so firstly thinking it's great that I'm regulating myself it's important to regulate myself if you're doing it with food and you're not ending up feeling sick and you feel good after the snacking there's nothing wrong with snacking that's okay if you listen to your body and it feels good that's fine you're regulating with food and that's fine you're also eating getting nutrients getting energy that's absolutely fine if you're starting to feel like you're getting sick from it or you you're just uncomfortable it doesn't feel right for you anymore thinking about what am I snacking on what is it so going back to what type of food is it so if you're noticing that you're needing crunchy foods you might be needing that kind of deep pressure input and there's other things that also give that deep pressure input so you might get deep pressure input from crunchy foods like nuts and you might find look I'm snacking on nuts and I'm using these to regulate myself all day but then I'm starting to feel like I've got reflux and my body is just obviously not having a good time with this at this amount that I'm eating lying on a hard floor also gives deep pressure input so trying to match those things also if it's cold foods or something that you drink through a straw I've had clients in the past who have had issues where they feel like they just want to drink milkshakes all day drinking through a straw gives us propriocept input and that might give that person a clue that they need that proprioceptive input they're not they don't need to get rid of smoothies or milkshakes or whatever it is out of their lives they might just be eating these foods to a point that they don't feel that good because they're actually seeking it's giving them something that they need but the balance isn't quite there can they find that proprioceptive input somewhere else we also want to look at the when when we look at when am I eating these foods is it after a point of being really dysregulated so is it after work is it after you've just put the kids down is there something that's happening before you do this binging that is causing you to need extra regulation and can you help yourself with that in that moment so that when you go into the eating period you're eating for pleasure we're spoken about this a little bit before on the podcast but I want to reinforce that if you are binging at eight or nine pm after the kids have gone to bed and your kids are you know loud and crazy and and ask you for water and getting out of bed for the for two hours in that period right after dinner which is really busy and then you're sitting down in your binging it's very likely that you're dysregulated by the noise and they've been overtouched and those sorts of things and having to give give give give give is it possible for you to right after that have a shower and take some time for yourself put on you know a room therapy candle something that gives back to you makes you feel good or during the period could you be wearing noise canceling headphones could you ask for the TVs to be off or something like that if there's extra noise could we reduce music sounds whatever it is to reduce that overwhelm during the period so that when you go into that eating period you're eating for pleasure also looking at the how so how you're eating this food so if you're eating something like chips or chocolate those foods are going to help in regulation they might be giving you the sensory input but also those foods don't contain protein so it's really easy if you're someone who struggles to tune into your interception and notice your fullness to go past fullness with these foods because they're not they're not giving that fullness in our stomach because they're so quick to digest and so if we're not tuning into that more intricate level of interception with ADHD as struggle with like the taste in our mouth and those sorts of things which you can work on and you can get much better at but if we're not able to tune into that we're going to struggle to notice that we've eaten past the point of comfort with those foods whereas if we have some protein at the same time we might be able to feel that fullness more clearly so for example it might be that you're eating chips but you also have some yoghurt beforehand so that that food gives you that fullness and your body is regulated in terms of it's had its hunger needs met but then the chips afterwards are for pleasure or for regulation but you are able to track where you're at with that food in terms of feeling satisfied yeah yeah amazing I love that I got so much from that good I'm going to move to the next one because it is rapid file next question I'm in attentive and I find that I will start snucking on something and then accidentally eat the whole packet for example I ate a whole packet of skittles and was so surprised when I opened the packet and it was empty half an hour later how do I work on this with my inattentive ADHD this one flows on really well from the last one it's pretty much the same thing thinking about adding that food that gives protein so that when you lack those interceptive skills you can tune in a little bit more easily but also what regulation are you seeking there yeah if you know that you struggle with interception and tuning into that when you are stacking on foods taking some time out every now and then to eat that food a little bit more mindfully which I say which I say with caution because I don't want to put pressure on ADHD is that they have to be really mindful about their eating all the time that can be really hard that can make us feel shame around eating because often we will eat inattentively because we're trying to regulate or because we've got so many other things that our brain is wanting to do at that time but taking some time out the next time you eat the skittles just to tune into what the flavours are like and try thinking to yourself when does this flavour change from a good flavour to a bad flavour helps to build that interception so that next time it might be a bit more subconscious and you're able to tune into that a little bit better without having to be consciously focused on it so you have to train your body while you're conscious that when you're inattentive there's more of a chance of your unconscious taste buds and interception actually picking up on it yeah exactly I do this in depth with my clients and there's specific things that we go through but just as an intro to that sort of just trying to focus on when does the flavour change from a good flavour to a not-so-good flavour or do I notice that and that might be a sign that my body is reflecting that it's done with that food you know my bloodstream has enough sugar in it for now and if I have any more it won't feel so good and that's reflected by the taste buds on my tongue going from a good sweet to a not-so-good sweet it does and I think like what you just said before is these things are complicated and working with a dietician like I don't want people to hear this in go that sounds so hard and I'll never do that obviously we're trying to give sort of more generic responses it's a rapid fire so that we can get through more but also just like knowing that when you do hear Tara explain it like this knowing that most of us grow up with parents you had no idea and so they would like obviously only wanting what's best for us but they might have added unconscious or conscious shaming language around things and so we have a lot of work to do around like de-stigmatising some of this stuff and always separating ourselves from shame and so even though some of these things to do with interception which is how your body sends signals from the inside up to your brain like I'm full I need to go to the toilet those internal messages often our parents would just make us feel bad for overeating or shame us in knowing that there are reasons why this happens they're linked to our ADHD and when we hear how complicated it is from what Tara is saying and we hear that the way we were raised was actually quite simple our parents oversimplified this stuff we can see Well actually deterred our culture in Western culture we are taken away from our interception when it comes to food so we're taught to try and use our brains to regulate food which obviously we should be doing using our minds when that's not how we should be doing it it should be mostly through interception that we can regulate and if we can find that balance and tune into our interception we don't need to worry about how much fat is this and how much salt is in this and how much is because we can actually feel it and we go it's starting to taste too fatty on my tongue now but there's a whole set of reasons why that's really difficult for ADHDers and this is a very complex thing that I can't explain fully on the pod because after a certain date is so different but just being aware that we're conditioned and sometimes we have to unlearn some cultural understandings about food and this is why we talk about it on the pod because it's a journey it's not all going to happen overnight but even if we just mention something and it starts to sink in for you you start to realise it's not my fault you know I was conditioned a certain way and I'm starting to unlearn some of those things and each day I'm going to start learning new things and if you're when in doubt and that's such a good point Grace when in doubt I think a really simple way to look at it is how can I take this question or statement that I'm making in my mind around food from a mental into a physical so instead of saying I shouldn't have more cake because it's going to make me fat saying to yourself what's my mouth doing around this cake? I've had some cake where am I? Is it really dry in my mouth now? what is my body feeling like? how's my stomach feeling around this? trying to take out all of that mental load and just trying to focus on the body and the more that we do that the more that we build that interception the more that those subconscious messages start to become stronger so that we don't always have to be tuning into the conscious to be able to do it it's similar to a driving lesson I always explain to my clients that the more that we work on this and the conscious you know you do your driving lesson and you have to be completely focused and then after you know 10 lessons or whatever it is maybe more for an ADHD you then can subconsciously you know turn your you turn your subconsciously turn your indicator on when you're about to go right you don't have to think about you don't have to go I need to turn my indicator on I'm at a right turn you just do it automatically or when the when it starts raining you automatically turn your windscreen wipers on from that subconscious place yeah yeah so it all becomes more automated yes I tell love this question I know this is probably going to be one that is hard to answer so I sit succinctly but let's give it a go okay so this question says so much nutrition advice out there what's the most important? I do want to preface and I sort of I wanted to say this up the top but I forgot to that it's so hard as a dietician to comment on these things because obviously the podcast isn't for isn't a place for one-to-one advice it's more just for educational purposes only and also nutrition and food is so specific to the person it's so personal it's like a fingerprint we all have our own relationship we have the way that our parents were around food the way our parents were around their own bodies whether our parents were to us around our bodies it's our grandparents can have a huge impact on people it's just there's so much around it whether we grew up with money or without money whether there was this abundance of food or lack of food can really impact people for example often I'll get clients you say I eat really fast and my first question to them is how many siblings do you have and they'll go I've got a lot of siblings more often than not they'll say I have a lot of siblings you don't need to feel shame around eating really fast it was eat or be eaten when you're growing up of course you're going to eat fast that makes complete sense if you see if you see one puppy going in for food they're going to be a lot slower than if there's 10 puppies that are sharing the same bowl that's how it works so we need to just remind your nervous system that it's okay you're going to get fed before you start eating and to remind yourself that you don't have to rush anymore because no one else is going to take your food but also take the shame away in your head you're thinking I eat fast because I'm a pig and I don't care about food and I'm not mindful and I'm this bad person but the reality is you're eating fast because you have this fear that you won't be able to eat if you don't eat fast and we just need to calm that fear and separate it out from the stigma of eating fast makes me a bad person in some way okay so I just went completely off topic but I loved it and I feel like just quickly that what Tara said can be applied to so many areas we were taught again by society and actually what is the real reason yes what is the real reason so symbolically that could apply to us but what is yeah check yourself I do want to make that point though check yourself with nutrition because weeks so quickly want to go to a place of it's my fault I have no self control yeah I'm a bit disgusting everyone else is doing better than me I'm not the ideal person yes so resist that immediate urge to go it's my fault because what that does is puts us in a state of mind of in that guilt state and we end up not digging below the surface to see what's actually there and when we actually look below the surface we'll often find it's something that we can actually work on quite not easily but if we understand what it is yes we can actually work on it progressively and get somewhere with it rather than just feeling guilty which doesn't help yes so really knowing so really a lot of the time we're trying to make changes without really knowing what the real issue is just knowing what the real issue is yes it's such a huge step yes stop and just have one quick thing like I just said with you know people eating because eating fast because they had lots of siblings just stop yeah hold on because we just so quickly want to feel those thoughts of food and our head of why am I doing this with because I'm a bad person just stop for a second and think maybe if I wasn't if it wasn't because I was lazy had no self control and wasn't you know a bad person around food what else could it be yeah because it's usually that and it's usually not that you're a bad person I mean it's definitely not yeah and I also want to add as well like when you do push past that I call it like a clickbait thought it's the thought that your brain gives you and it wants you to click on it yeah yeah yeah it is an automatic sort of neural path when you're brain and often it's incorrectly unfactual you push past that thought and you kind of just try and really trust yourself you will actually give yourself the real reason it's like you and you know it but your brain won't let you know it 100% and it's probably because as a child you do remember it's just that we forget the memories we had as children and that initial thought will block any progress just push past it as Tara said and this can relate to even things like I might have a clickbait thought and I often do have this thought of like I'm so bad at cooking and then I feel guilty because my mom did raise me you know to learn how to cook but there's so many stories around that my brain will only let me go down the I'm so bad at cooking and if I really think about it cooking is hard for me because at that time of night I'm at the end of the day I'm exhausted I don't practice it a lot so I'm a bit out of practice because my husband does a lot of the cooking kids are noisy kids are noisy and if I just change the time of the day I might find it easier or if I was on a you know I often find on holidays I really enjoy cooking because I'm a bit more relaxed so it's not always as simple as our brain makes out there's usually more complicating factors and we can identify those and maybe it makes us feel less emotional or we can just look at the facts and not make judgements on them they're just neutral facts I find 6 p.m. overwhelming when I'm on holidays I find it easier to cook and those are sort of starting points that will help us navigate our relationship with food and cooking a bit more clearly such a good point yeah (singing) okay next one this says my family and I are all ADHD and we all have different sensory preferences so I end up making about four different meals every night to suit everyone's needs and it's absolutely exhausting me is there any way to make this easier? so firstly if anyone has really extreme sensory needs or you feel that they are missing nutrients if they're not getting one of their major food groups so milk or milk alternatives meat or meat alternatives fruit, veggies, whole grains or grains if they're missing any of those and they're not getting any of those it's really all very few in one of those categories it's really important to go and do one-to-one sessions seek out a dietitian no tea just to make sure that they don't have any nutrient gaps if it's more general and everyone is meeting their nutrient needs across the world but it's a huge effort for you to be able to get there what I would suggest is making deconstructed meals so for example instead of making everyone a burger making all of the different parts and putting them on the table and then everyone can take the pieces that they want to take another really good one for that is our family loves sushi tacos so we make rice then we put all the ingredients in the middle then we cut the sushi paper up into four so you just literally cut with scissors down until you've got four little squares and then you load up the rice and you eat it like you would a taco and then everyone can take what they want and it's not something that I have to individually make for each person I love that tip by the way because often I want to make sushi but I don't like the executive functioning of rolling it and making it also perfect but sushi taco is so much easier sushi tacos are great the other thing with kids that have sensory overwhelm is that we need to have a certain amount of exposures to foods as human beings before we feel safe with that food and it's different for different foods but often with fruit and veggies because they have quite complex textures and they have varied textures inside them so if you look at a cracker it's got one texture and that's why kids often are okay because they know what's coming I know what the next cracker is going to be like it's cut to a specific shape so I'll always be comfortable eating that whereas when you eat a tomato it could be different from the last tomato that you ate and it's also got a jelly bit and a seedy bit and a skin bit and a grainy bit inside and it can always change and that can cause this food fear of new foods for kids and uncertainty yes the uncertainty and so exposures to food is really important and those exposures don't just have to be eating it so having it on the table that's an exposure touching that food that's an exposure so getting them in to help you with cutting up the food in the kitchen even if they're not eating it that is making them feel safe with that food my now seven year old would not touch tomato for the first five years of his life but I kept putting tomato onto his plate in front of him getting him to serve tomato to us and now he'll happily eat tomato so it's a bit of a long game as well it's a long game but what we don't want to do is we don't want to say that kids do or don't like foods we sort of want to change that language too has not yet accepted so has accepted and hasn't yet accepted and if we say my child doesn't like broccoli broccoli and then we never offer it to them again then when they're faced with that broccoli at someone's house maybe they don't like it because we're calling a broccoli that's probably why they will then be really stressed out by that food whereas if that food is constantly put on their plate and they have to pick it up and take it off that's an exposure to that food they're feeling with their hand while that food feels like in their hand and that will eventually translate to when I put it on my mouth it's not so scary yeah because I know what to expect you could also say they're experimenting with this food which doesn't mean that they need to they need to be experimenting but we don't want to think my child doesn't like this food I'll never offer it again because then it becomes something that is not safe to them it's never put in front of them it's too much for them to take on board so the other thing I would suggest if you're making something like a sauce based meal curry, pasta sauce, those sorts of things casserole leaving the veggies out and even if people are really struggling with textures frying the meat or the protein separately and then keeping everything separate and then if you're an adult and you want to add the meat in at the end you can but just keeping all of those things separate and then you can encourage your children to dip the meat into the sauce but they get to do it in that safe way with the veggies veggies don't have to be cooked into a meal we can just have a plate of crunchy fresh veggies on the table every night if that's what your kids will eat or we can do a little bit of both if we want to expose them to those cooked veggies so we can take those out before we cook the veggies and then offer them a little bit of our cooked veggies the one with the cooked veggies in it but giving the kids the option to try those things keeping things a little bit more separate and then at the end you can combine them if you want to as an adult and you may even find as the adult the you enjoy their constructed meals too and that because you're making them for your kids and the whole family actually you know we grew up thinking meals had to come a certain way but deconstructed can work for us in adulthood too our brains like it too yes I personally like a lot of things deconstructed I have this concept that I think other ADHDers will understand and that's the third flavour effect which is when you take two foods and they each have a flavour and then there's a third flavour of those two foods together and it's a really it can be really disconcerting for us you know like anything with cucumber I don't like I don't like that or I don't mind tomato and cucumber together that creates a new flavour but it's a flavour I like but if I have egg or cucumber in another meal I really don't like the flavour then that the cucumber and the egg make with that food although I don't mind the flavours of those foods individually and so if I'm having something like a burger I'll always take out the cucumber and eat it separately because I just don't want to experience that flavour of other things thinking about it from that perspective and it's okay to eat all those things separately we don't need to be eating everything in a big mixture all the time yeah I love that point about like it's not that you don't want cucumber so you don't want cucumber with that other ingredient no thanks that is such a like that's a light bulb moment I think hmm yeah okay so I know this is going to be hard for your dietitian brain taro but assuming that people can find ways to mostly take that advice about getting that broad range of nutrients in each food group that you're talking about sometimes there are times in life where our executive functioning is at all time low maybe due to grief maybe due to you know PMDD this person says what are the non-negotiables I should be eating even when everything is a struggle so just this is obviously not long term but in just maybe a week period where it's just like groundhog day and you're just desperate what it other ways to sort of go I have to prioritise now I can't do everything to that I would say if I was trying to keep things as simple as possible make sure that we're having protein and carbs at every meal and snack and make sure we're eating every two to three hours that's what I'd say in that situation when we're really struggling to get food in yeah and anything on top of that is fantastic try to buy the fruit and veggies that you will eat don't try and complicate it by saying oh by you know all of these things that I have to cook and worry about the textures if you like apples just buy apples to have as your snack or alongside your snack every day that week you're like bananas just have bananas try and include low effort low executive functioning things carrots are a great one as well the pre-cut packets are amazing the pre-cut veggies but carbs protein at every meal and snack because if we have carbs and protein together we're going to get long lasting energy that's going to keep our brain going keep our mood as stable as we possibly can keep us thinking more clearly not letting those blood glucose levels drop right down we're going to get into a place of being more emotional, more moody and more likely to be in G yeah amazing love that I love getting so hard it's so hard answering these questions when it's something that I do for my job to give it like a simple non specific non one-to-one yeah yeah I'm just yeah and we didn't get through all of them we did as rapid fire as we could but yeah obviously no dietician worth a salt is going to do true rapid fire because there's just so many things to factor in and we don't want to have a sound bite that gets taken out of context yes so as always take this advice and go and see a professional if you have other issues or more belonged issues this is for educational purposes only yeah disclaimer disclaimer disclaimer and yeah we've had so much fun talking about food today though and I just love that we get to deep dive into these topics because I struggle so much with this and that's why I love having Tyro's my bestie and I get to share her with the world okay yeah let me move on yeah Sue Aureggie say hey let's do it we need some we need some fun in this episode yeah it's been a serious one which isn't a bad thing no but I need to laugh okay we're gonna we're going now this next mission is to make Tyro laugh okay so we are doing a listener submitted round okay all of our favorite segment choose your torture a few weeks ago on Instagram we asked you guys to submit your choose your torture and people have had no mercy why are they like this? I they have sat around plotting and saving the worst possible things for us so let's get into it I'm giving you the first one yeah this one's from Taylor hi Taylor Taylor is gonna about to be so mean to you would you rather be on an aeroplane between two arguing passengers or walk barefoot in a public bathroom um okay this is going to send me into a spiral okay okay this all right this is how I'm going to decide I'm thinking about the fact that in you on an aeroplane you can't move seats you're stuck there you're they're going to be arguing across you you can't escape I think I love the drums I'm like oh what's this about? yes there's that as well I feel like I would not enjoy the drums maybe as much as you would I think I feel a bit like I can't think out of it but I think I would just wash my feet after walking in the bathroom straight away oh no way I've solved that whereas the aeroplane thing you have to sit there for so long before you can actually get out so it's prolonged torture I'm going to pick walking barefoot and also I think I've actually done this before and the reason I've done this is because when you go to the beach and then you go to the surf club bathrooms you're barefoot and so I've survived life until now and it is gross but I think I've just done it unthinkingly and so I'm going to pick that oh but what if he's telling me that I'm a devil you know I'm a hube or something I just do yeah and then you just go straight back in the ocean just pretend I'm watching the ocean fixes all sins okay okay I got there in the leaves you did all right your turn okay Eric stop yawning at a hilarious ragu singing okay the next one says would you rather sit in an empty room beside a person who makes loud chewing noises or a person who murmurs while reading no the loud chewing noises is unacceptable I think that might be illegal in Australia yeah no the slurping oh my god no I can't handle a loud chewing noise I know it does something there's a some people have like an imbalance in their brain where they cannot cope with it it's me it flicks that switch for you I think that there's an actual disorder where it really sets you on edge I think I have that yeah because I can't I oh the little like no it's the opposite of ASMR I can't stand that memory while you're reading is cute yeah yeah I feel like they're both pretty bad I feel like murmuring while you're reading it's like you can hear every second word and that would bother me I'd be like either I can hear you or I can't I'd rather either have silence or loud reading but they're in between would annoy me no I'm fine with that I just the chewing I can't do it I agree that the chewing is worse no oh my god no yeah too many wet noises I just don't like mouth noises in general you know I love either when you hear them kissing and they always I can't I can't leave those kisses going on forever no no no no no they should blow up the mouth it's worse than it is so and then you have blink an hour yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay next one yes your turn would you rather this one's this one's topical because it happened this morning would you rather tell someone they have food in their teeth or find out you had food in your teeth this morning Tyra told me I had food in my teeth let's just add an extra level of stress to this by saying it has to be like a like stranger slush of acquaintance because look at your bestie or your husband that's easy this has to be like awkward like your colleague or something why is it so embarrassing to have food in your teeth as well yeah like it's just the food separate to the to the tooth both things completely fine the food on the tooth for some reason it's like you feel like it's the biggest stupidest idiot that has ever bumbled on the face of the earth yeah you're like curfew teeth the things were sticky I can't but yeah no okay I reckon I would be the I would rather be the one telling the person about something that I always tell people yeah me too but you can do it in a way that's like not awkward it's just like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no one wants to have food in their teeth especially in a photo or something no question though if you're going for a job interview would you tell the interviewer and you really really want a good job would you tell the interviewer that they had something in their teeth I feel like that's one of those things where we get wrong that like if someone is calling out the middleman in that situation they're not legit like the good person points out the food in their teeth and don't you notice that whenever you tell people they go oh my god everyone else has been letting me walk around like this thank you so much for telling me yeah always want to tell them yeah yeah yeah and also if they go to the mirror after the interview and they see it they'll be like they didn't tell me that there was something in my teeth and it makes you look either dishonest or inattentive mm-hmm would you rather have shoelaces unequal and tightness oh no or your stockings be itchy no I can't how do that unequal and tightness feeling and you feel like one like one legs longer than the other no I can't that is a horrible thought why do all this make us even have to think about this stuff who was this who was this person I can't know itching leggings itchy and gross hate yeah but I can't handle the way I feel like oh that's made me feel so have you ever been wearing stockings and they've been so itchy you've just like literally ripped them apart just wondering if that's happened before like you know how you can't like if you want to train or something you can't take them off I wonder if you can just rip them apart like the Hulk you probably can if you've done that I want to know I feel like that's a bold move to feel like ADHDs aren't a huge stocking wearer yeah that buys stockings because they rip straight away I'm like these stockings I'm going to look after and then I sit on a wooden bench and stand up and rip them straight away and all the clean nail polish in the world cannot combat the lack of dopamine I have in my brain I actually don't know if there's any argument for stockings to be honest because they get those ladders when you see the visual ladder it's so like I get itchy feelings when I see it I actually like stockings I'm not a fan of the ladder but I like stockings like no pink stockings because I don't like long pants because they feel like jail to your legs so in winter I always want to wear shorts and so you've got to wear a stocking weather other ones too cold I think I'd just wear like like a loose pant no no I'd just wear like yoga leggings yeah I wouldn't wear those like boomer I do not like a rosary stocking alright your turn would you rather leave someone out of a social gathering or be the one left out in rsd about it oh my god that's so hard evil I would probably rather be left out it's horrible both ways it is horrible but I'd rather be left out I hate and then you're like yeah we forgot to see other day how I feel really sad for the horses in the Olympics because they don't get medals and they do all the way since I left out no I would say I'd rather be left out I'd rsd all day and I'd probably cry but I couldn't leave someone out of the social gathering I can't no I actually have a story about this I oh my god so oh my god be rsd I worked with a group of girls in Queensland and I became really close with one of them like a really close friend of mine she was there for me when we had our first baby she was amazing but there was a group of girls that I worked at the job that I worked at with her and I felt like one of them to my wedding then I'd have to invite all of them and I didn't invite her because you didn't invite all of them because I didn't invite all of them and you know when you're at the time you're like you get caught up in those things like you know when you've just when you've had a baby you're so stressed about all of those things and you look back and you're like why was I so stressed about her and I have such huge regret about it and she was really upset about it she borderled up with me she has 88 as well she's amazing we've moved on since then but I leaving her out it just was no I regret it so badly and I'd much rather that someone else didn't invite me to their wedding than I had made them a stake again I was really much that I invited her and not worried about the other girls because they were work friends and I was really worried about the other girls and I was really worried about the other girls and I'm sure your sister-in-law knows you so well and you're like, this is going to be awful. I might as well ask all about your trip to Peru. Yes. Okay. This is a good one. Okay. Okay. Would you rather swallow gristle? Like off a stake? Yeah. Or be forced to talk about detailed financial minutiae for an hour. Just the word minutiae. I mean. Any kind of minutiae? minutiae. minutiae. Yeah. it, look, an hour. It's a long time. It's a long time. It's a lot of minutiae. But Gristle is so disgusting. I, it is. Yeah. Again, I'm going to use the same logic that I used on the plain example. The minutiae is extremely long and detailed and takes an hour. Yeah. The gristle is over and done with pretty quick. You've, you've, you've, we're a fan of the bandaid method. I'm a fan of like, what's the shortest? They're both painful but the quickest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rip it off. Yeah. Yeah. I would not choose having to eat Gristle for an hour. That's for sure. No, over the final two minutiae. Yeah. I just, it's like you close your eyes and you just, you know, when your mum would give you medicine as a child. Yeah. And it was, it tasted awful. Yeah. And for some reason, I always felt like you, you, you'd block your nose, but you'd also close your eyes as if that helped. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it is because it's the ADHD brain trying to just shut off the senses. Except for that when you shut off the senses, your taste becomes more, doesn't, if you shut off one senses, I don't know. I don't know if it happens that quickly. Anyway, okay, here's the next one. Would you rather touch items in a dirty dishwasher or someone else's worn underwear? Oh. I mean, I guess I'm having, I'm going to have to touch the disgusting dishwasher because someone, that's like dangerous. That's, that's biological warfare. I'm not touching. So yeah, but touching, you know what, you can always get them with chopsticks, like the underwear, like pinch it with tongs or chopsticks and just hover it across the washing machine. But why am I having to deal with it? That's the other thing. Like what's happened there? I don't know. I don't know about it. So I would say the dishwasher thing, but you know what, I'll tell you something about me and dishwashers. As soon as a piece of food is on a plate in the dishwasher, I imagine that it's a piece of food that's been like flossed out of someone's tooth it's like the two things. It's disgusting. Teeth and food. Together disgusting. Plates and food in dishwasher. Disgusting. Oh, gross. Yeah. I can't. And it's the wetness and the, you know how when it hits the plate and it slides down? No, don't, babe. Just, okay, move on. Okay, I'm just adding extra torture to the torture. Okay. Oh my god, now I've just found one just at the last minute. I'm doing this one. Would you rather? Oh, this is so hectic. And how are people so specific? How do they understand my ex so bad? Would you rather hold a fistful of cotton a fistful of cotton wool or a fistful of used steel wool? Oh, the used steel wool. Oh my god. Used steel wool when it's got food in it, but it's also like dripping, but it's also not wet because it's metal and it, but it's really wet. It's just horrible. And then cotton wool. No, the chalky winds of cotton wool. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we can't, no, no, no. Unacceptable. No, we would return to sender. No, no rules. This is the last one, because I think both of our nervous systems are in panic. I need to go have a shower. Okay. This one is from Sarah, and she had to DM it to us because it was so long. It's a strap in, babe. We love you, Sarah, Sarah. Sarah, Sarah. Okay. Would you rather have a growing long line of cars forming because someone wants your parking spot and you're fumbling to get the kids in the stroller into the car? Oh my god. All the strangers watch you struggle. I'm, I always mouth to them as well. I'm sorry, sorry. Why are you doing this? Just to a pantomime? Stage production. Or would you rather have a growing long line of shoppers forming ready to check out behind you and self checkout while you fumble with the machine? And then it tells you to get a store associate, but they're in none around you. And then you have to stress with a group of strangers staring at you. It's very similar. Yes. That's slightly different. I feel like I would rather the supermarket thing because I feel like people sort of know it's that could, could not be your fault. Those machines are the devil. They are. Everyone blames the machine, right? Yeah. So I reckon that I suddenly can't do things that humans normally are able to do without thinking when people are watching me. Yes. Like, oh, just put this box into the back of my car and then I just like tip the box upside down for no reason or like I just forget how to take my pram down or what? Yeah, no, I'm just, yeah, yeah, just take my shoes off before I get in the car for no reason. Or just leave all the bags on the roof. I feel like those. And then I back out into a pole. Just as a nice little clean. That's true. I was actually going to say I would prefer to do the car scenario just because I hate checkout stuff, but now you convince me to change my mind. I hate those prams where they meant to just collapse in one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And there's always something. They never do. They end up just shoving it into your car and the wheels pop back up. Prams for ADHDers. I reckon they're not suitable for the ADHD brain. No, they're always like it's really uncomplicated to take down. They never are. No, no, no, there's always like something where you have to push something in and pull or push at the same time. It's just where it goes against. Yeah, it's like, it's like cutting your head and rubbing your tummy. It's exactly like that, especially where the entry demands are. It is. It's an incident. Also, they should standardise them for all of the prams. Have the same mechanism. Standardised prams. This is what we need to fight for. We're starting to get on one of the things. Prams need to be standardised. Yes. No, and then it always hurts me in some way. Something's getting jammed in there. Yeah. Yeah. Or scratches the car or it's just always a surprise. I don't want to surprise mechanism. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Moving on. This has been a very informative for the listeners. Okay. I for one feel better. You do. After that. I wasn't feeling good, but now we've we've made a plan to resolve all of life's issues regarding prams. Yeah. Just in case people didn't understand that last one. Yes. A pram is like a push chair, a buggy. Yeah. Something that you push your kids in. Yeah. If you want to push the little trolley. Pram though. Yeah. Now you know you can start saying Pram. Pram. The universal term. Do you know why it's called a pram? Strawler. Prambulator. Yes. Prambulator. Yeah. Gross. Yeah. Horrible word. There are some weird words out there for baby items. Yeah. There are. Anyway. Guys, with that final thought from Grace, we are done with today's episode. We are. We have made it through. We struggle guys honestly. Because you took beds. Because I took meds. Everything for a bit off. We were a light on Grace to be funny, which we all know is a risk. A risk. I am funniest. I'm funniest when Tyro is funniest. So yeah, we're a package deal. We are a package deal. When one of us is not another game, the whole thing falls sideways. But thank you for sticking around. Thank you for sticking around. If you're still here. Yes. Please send us a message in the DMs to say, I was still there, guys. I was part of the. I was there. I made it through. I made it through. And we will send you a medal. Yeah. Mentally. Not a real physical medal. No. Because we would never go around to sending those. Okay, so we have loved this time. If you are still here and want a review, maybe this isn't the week to do that. Do not review us this week. Do not mention still will review. I learned a lot in that in that dietician section. So maybe just review the middle. It's not the beginning of the end. When will we back? Yes. Always in your beautiful ears. Next Thursday. Our favorite day of the week. And until then. Yeah. You guys, you better not. RSD. Don't RSD. Don't RSD in a car park. Don't RSD when you're putting your stuff through the annoying automated shopping center thing. Yeah. What's it called? Yeah. Check out. Yeah. Don't RSD when you don't invite your friend to your own wedding. Don't RSD. Maybe you should not. Just don't RSD. Don't RSD. Anywhere. Until then. We love you. Yeah. And bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Say hello. Oh my god. Get her mic off. [Music] This podcast was recorded on Madundi, Budgerland. Always was always will be Aboriginal land. It's integral that we acknowledge the original owners of the land, seas and waterways in Australia and that we remember the devastation that happened on this land to validate the history of Australia's indigenous people and to ensure devastation like this never happens again.
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