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Aaron Branch Loves Being Alive

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Aaron Branch Loves Being Alive

The conversation unfolds as a candid, reflective exchange between two friends, blending personal anecdotes with philosophical musings. The speaker recounts a series of events—from his father’s stroke to a messy staycation in Ohio, where a homeless man broke in and made a scene—highlighting both chaos and the importance of personal boundaries. These experiences are framed within a larger meditation on mortality, consciousness, and belief systems. He reflects on his mother’s belief in reincarnation, contrasting it with Christian views of heaven and hell, showing how spiritual ideas can coexist. The discussion deepens into existential concerns about death, the fragility of human existence, and the illusion of permanence in a world where memories and identities fade over time. He also critiques the entertainment industry and societal structures, pointing out how people in positions of power often lack mental well-being. Ultimately, the speaker finds meaning in human connection, joy, and authenticity—emphasizing that the purpose of life may be to create beautiful, meaningful experiences for others rather than achieve success. The tone is introspective, humorous, and deeply human, underlining that life’s greatest value lies not in avoiding fear, but in embracing it with compassion and presence.

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I go how do you square this like very eastern kind of like karmic reincarnation belief that you have yeah with like your belief in like Heaven and Jesus Christ and God yeah, and she like takes a sip of her beer and goes I'm never thought about that a day in my life What's up, dude? What up, darling? Good to see you. Good to see you. Tyron. I'm good True Now I do one with the truth. Well, what you guys miss was I literally just said that I almost canceled. I am good Yeah, I'm good. I'm I'm good. Okay. I'm good. I just think that it's it's you know everything is so good Yeah, which is great like a lot of cool opportunities are popping up. Yeah, having fun in life You told me you're living out of your car. You can't know There's just some clothes and some dishware. No, everything is good. I so basically like I Well, first of all this is gonna sound sad so I'm gonna say this one first my dad had a stroke I found out damn. I'm sorry. It's okay We have a weird relationship, but also like it's still apparent. So it's like you know what I mean These are like two things dads are obsessed with by the way having a weird relationship with their kids and having a stroke And then like you be in like oh, I need to drop everything. Yeah, and like do something about it also But he's he's doing fantastic, which is great, but then the second thing was is Like so basically it was my girlfriend's birthday last weekend and We did like a staycation thing which I feel like people don't do in LA. Maybe that's like in like a like a Midwest thing It's very Midwest. Yeah, no, it's like let's go to Ohio. Yeah, exactly. So I was like I want to do a staycation So we like got a really cool like hotel room When it's like a bar of like a bunch of her friends and then my roommate face times me after we all leave the bar and There is a man in my kitchen Wearing which is kind of funny my best friends production company shirt But he's wearing our clothes what like socks from like head to toe with like a knife in his hand For protection and it's just making food Maybe the knife was for the food. No, no, it was he was wielding you would know by the face time It was like a very much like a face time. How long are we seeing this guy? So basically my roommate came home with a friend and a friend and And so they get there and then he's like he was about to go in then thank God She was there. Yeah, because she was like don't do that. He for whatever reason in his mind thought that was me Yeah, I don't know what's the clothes and The being in the house probably like why would you assume it be anyone else? And so but she stopped she was like we shouldn't go in. Yeah, and then he looks and I guess I guess the guy looked over and was like what are you gonna do? Well if you have a knife not much brother. Yeah, and then just went right back to making his mac and cheese Would you to be fair that could be what the knife was for either way good for him? I guess wait, so who what did we find out so your roommate doesn't go in? Yes, my roommate doesn't go in he facetimes me from like a side window in which I get to see what's happening in real time It's got looking over and like making food at the same time It it was a lot So I end up leaving the staycation left my girlfriend there and if I really bad about that But I left the staycation I go home and then all the cops had just arrived like right when I get there good And so surely they'll make it all better. Yeah, and so they did cut. No, they didn't actually if I'm being honest with you 100 they were super nice, but they they basically arrested the man and then we had to go in this guy trashed our place Like and he like left like a bunch of stuff I was like I can nasty like Cheetah blanket with like a bunch of hair on it like all my bed is underwear was everywhere He was in fact having a staycation himself. He was definitely good. Yeah, good job for him and so He didn't steal anything he didn't steal anything and so in the middle of me trying to like assess the situation the cop is like Hey, I don't want to bother you, but like are you from YouTube? And I was like this is not not not now This is not the time to be doing that and so yeah, and so it was a homeless individual. We didn't press charges And I think everyone's mad that we did it. Well, he didn't steal anything Yeah You get in my house with it. I don't know You can't be in my house It's a boundary for me. It's a boundary for me Go in my house with a knife and put your Cheetah blanket on my bed It would really got me was the fact that he was boiling water in a skillet Yeah, and I think he's not been in a kitchen Yes, and I have a soft place in my heart with people that have schizophrenia and So just a weird thing to say on a context. You know that he does me. Yeah, I think if you're boiling water in a skillet I mean, what's going on? He might just be really not up on kitchens Yeah, that's a really good point as well Yeah, it's not a crazy to jump to schizophrenia To be like no, he has a different personality inside him. They told him skillet is for boiling I think it's like he might just really not be up on kitchens based on his relationship Yeah, maybe a little ableist to be I don't know, so I Yeah, we let him go this like and I didn't realize that process like he just got out of the cop car and walked away We did a catching release. I think I was kind of hoping that like maybe like that meant like he fuck with me like now That was gonna fuck with you So come back in that house and make some more mac and cheese in the skillet. Yeah, so that was that so like I don't know There is like a feeling of like you're you're Safety and like also just kind of like you're like safe space just like being like And I don't know it made me feel weird and so we also had we had we were taking a trip to New Hampshire The week after so I was like I haven't even packed for that trip That was like a day later And so I just grabbed a bunch of stuff from my house and then like I couldn't even assess like the mess like I couldn't do anything So I just I literally just got back Two nights ago then filmed all day yesterday and then I'm just now kind of dealing with the situation Does anyone clean the house? Yeah, thank God our landlord did a really good job You got like cleaners in there, which was good yeah But yeah, so I'm kind of still like going through my stuff and like this because there's things that cleaners I this now now sounds like me being a dick. There's some things that cleaners can't touch And so I was like trying to like get all of that together also but everything's good now And now I'm gonna unclean my car when I leave here and something to be good. There's no doubt that you should have canceled on this Yeah, it's this podcast. I would have supported you. It's so crazy. I'm really you need to know Yeah, you need to know about me that I'm always happy to get canceled on I know you're awesome for that I'm thrilled to be here. I love talking with you. I love talking with you too I'm I'm good like everything is good I'm very lucky in that sense also my mom's also I'm going to Cabo also next week So there's just a lot of work I have to do. So I was like this will be a good thing to do Plus I we tried to do this in Kansas City that didn't happen. So I was like I want to make sure this happens It's true because you're a Kansas City legend. I know. I was thinking of you the other day actually because you did the our benefit show last year Do that was you were so great. I'm still talking to people about it. It's so fun right? It's so cool Knowing what you're doing For that city. I think that I it's one of those things that I really am like just proud To one know you and to also know that we had a similar kind of like comedy training background But I don't know I think that what you're doing for the city and also to know there's someone in Kansas City besides tech nine That's great. Mr. Nine. Have you met Mr. Aaron dude Aaron Yates yet? He told a friend of mine once we were at the same event. I There was a tweet years ago that was very formative to chance and I that was like nobody fucks with tech nine like white boys from the suburbs of Kansas City And I was like it's correct. Yeah. I fucking love tech nine and I we met him in an event and they my friend I don't remember what they said exactly. They're like Missed I don't do I call you tech nine or tech or he was like mr. Nine is He's the man to take nine fucking ribs for anyone who doesn't know look up tech nine's music He's a Kansas City rapper. He's a fucking legend. Yeah, he's actually doing so much for the city I do nothing for the city. I throw a one benefit show that basically just showcases what people are actually doing in the city But it is so fun to do every year. I love it so much. It's our next one's coming up soon. That's so so I love it. It's really fun and it's it's um It's so fun to get to like bring people in for it. Mm-hmm We did it around things giving the first couple of years and it was so hard to get you to line up Dude that lineup like Japanese breakfast. Yeah, she was great. Right insane. Yeah, Michelle. I love her That was one of the coolest things also just witness and like The movement I forget the organization's name enough. It really bad about that also, but even who it was for I mean, I don't know the entire night was absolutely incredible and I don't know I'm just really I'm really proud of you man. Thanks dude and freedom affair Who fucking rips? They're awesome. They played last year. They're playing in this year. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes They're so good and then freaking Taylor Thompson dude Taylor is great. I know Taylor was so great. I love that girl. She I basically texted her and was like Hey, I looked at because I always look at anybody who has like a public calendar Yeah, I checked before I asked them anything because I'm like I won't bother you if it's like public information that you're Sure, and I checked her touring schedule and it said she had like Two nights off between like Milwaukee and Phoenix or something and I was like well fuck. I mean, I'll I'll ask it Nobody deal if she said no. I was like, would you want to spend one of your nights off coming and doing this benefit show for no money? And she was like absolutely I'll be there. That's so sick. And I was like dude. That's the coolest thing ever. That's so sick Taylor fucking rocks. Yeah, the industry the entertainment industry gets a bad rep There are a lot of really good people. Yeah, and I think just like I'm trying to collect all of them like infinity stones I think you're doing it. Yeah, seems like you got people around you. Yeah. I feel really good about like our wave of Entertainment like trying to be less problematic and trying to create good spaces for people to have fun and be able to showcase their creativity That's kind of really all I'm about as I age into an old man. How old are you? I'm 30. We're the same age. How old are you in your spirit? I feel like I am 27, but that's because of the pen Yeah, you know, like I do feel like it's a years off you. Yeah, I didn't get it use away from you I didn't get any experience like I just read and watched like YouTube videos Yeah, I feel like maybe I learned more but I think it's to experience so like post that I don't really feel like a 30 30-year I'm 31 actually and that sad that I just realized that as well. That's beautiful Yeah, that's completely beautiful. He's 31. 31 is the perfect age until next year when I'm 32 No, but why does 31 feel older than 32? Do you ever get that feeling? There are ages like this where it's like you're this age feels older than the like 40 somehow feels younger than 35 to me Yes, it doesn't make sense. It does. There's just something something happens with the years Is it an even number do even numbers feel younger than odd numbers? Maybe and also I you talking about COVID and just like watching YouTube videos and reading books is like Don't you find it funny the people who always want to talk to you the most about how hard COVID was there like never I see you nurses We're always like people that were gardening. Yeah Like it was so hard. I couldn't go to dinner. It's like well It was hard a lot of people dies that you would have the house You know like well you have a house so and I'm one of those people by the way when it was happening I was like this can't happen to me. I got to get out. I'm young. Yeah Yeah, we're in mid-20s where like the time where you would like experience a lot You would go out you would meet new people and then like I just got out and was with the same people Dude if you ever hear me complaining about COVID feel free to beat my ass because I had it good That's why wait what was your say? I had just I had spent the first half of my 20s working shit day jobs that I fucking hated in Chicago in Chicago We're reworking. I everywhere. I had every job. I worked at a finance firm. I worked in nonprofit I walked dogs. I did social media. I like everything you could think of yeah, which is to say I got fired a lot Which is to say I usually quit before they could fire me they'd be like can we see you on Friday at 4 p.m And I'd be like no because I quit You can't see me Friday at 4 p.m. Because I quit bitch nice try But yeah, it was COVID came at this time where like I was I had just stopped working day jobs I just got in my first writers room Oh, wow, and so I had moved to LA during the very first part of COVID and then I worked in remote writers rooms for all of COVID So I was like doing my dream making more money than I'd ever made No, I got crazy lucky and I made new friends because I was in LA and we could do outdoors shit from distance Yeah, and yeah, it was COVID came at the time. I feel bad for like teenagers Me too. I for me. I was like I had worked enough and been in the real world just long enough that I was like a break sounds Kind of good. Yeah, I've got like an intermission. Yeah, it's kind of what exactly we got to stretch out a little bit Yeah, come back to it in like process all the mistakes I made in the previous five years now Let's come back a better person did I I don't know I don't know but at the same time it Teenagers definitely had it the worst didn't get those formative years like those years of like Trying to figure out who you are all of that being inside I think it would be really hard if you were 12 to 22 I feel the worst for you about code. Mm-hmm. That's what I feel. Yeah, everyone else except for the people who passed. Yes RIP chance stop laughing. That's not funny chances laughing at that You see the kind of stuff he gets away with off camera. Oh my god. That's crazy Stop it. It's not I don't like that kind of and people do think he's like a benevolent magnanimous like oh chances So I love his laugh in the back That's the kind of shit. He's doing over there off camera. Yeah, it's giving malevolent. He's not a good guy. Yeah, he's not a good guy I'm like that. Sorry Thank you chance that meant the world and we accept that and we welcome you back into the community Hi chance. We welcome you back into the fold. Do you do you like being alive? What you take on being alive? You enjoying it? That's a hard question Because I was thinking on the drive over here. I'll give you the context Yeah, I was thinking on the drive over here about life was actually low-key way easier when I didn't care if I lived Yeah, and now that I'm like, I love being alive. It actually sucks. You have to pay attention to so many things. I like worry about vitamins That's sucks. It does suck because I want to live. It does suck That's crazy. I'm gonna get dark if you really want to get dark who gives a fuck. I do love being alive Yeah, but I think I'm really in realizing that people are the reason why I love being alive Yeah, I love relationships. I love connecting with people and I think that that's When you're an artist, it's very easy to kind of get into your own bubble But even like with the production that you have and my it takes a village like it takes a team mostly me But there's people around yeah, but for the past like few weeks I have just been a lot more curious about death. Yeah, so I've just been watching like all these really strange videos about like What actually happens because no one wants to talk about that. So like what actually happens when you die? What do you find out? Well, what they say is is that you know Your brain does a really good job of allocating which organs need to go first And then there's just like a slow fade in which all of your memories then begin to start plank Yeah, and so then that got me in my head and I'm like am I dying right now? Yeah, like is this a memory that's being played in my brain and I'm re-watching that and Then I was like I need to stop watching this now when I don't walk one of the yeah one of the biggest things you can do is Stop thinking about death and go for a walk. Yeah, that's one of the biggest things to do. Yeah, you gotta take a break Let me go get a little nice little matcha Yeah, get a matcha about get a matcha and then I went back to my apartment and then I re-watched the video Yeah, but I don't know there's something about death that I I find both like terrifying, but I remember Pre-pandemic in 2019. I made a short film with the friend of my name Kindle and he had a notification on his phone I'll never forget this we were we were doing like one of those like 24 hour like film festivals Yeah, super fun and he had a notification on his phone while we were editing said movie and It said remember you're gonna die That comes up every day. Yes, and then he took a second. He looked at and he goes And then just went right What the actual Not the deep breath and also who programmed that app. Yeah, I don't I didn't I am so curious Note that if anyone watching knows that this app exists I'm so curious to know what it is But that I think is what started my fascination, but I've been scared to fully dive into it It's actually helpful though. I do think I sometimes I'm moving through the world and hearing Myself and hearing people around me complain about stuff or have been tired of shape about stuff or worry about stuff And I'm like we all do forget a little too often. I think that it's good Yes, you get wrapped in the rig of the role if you knew you were gonna die tomorrow You sir, which is like silly because you can't live like that, but it's like you simply wouldn't give a fuck about this at all A thousand percent even if you knew you were gonna die in six months a thousand percent There's stuff that you just be like fuck. I don't give a fuck It's like do I want to spend all of my time like watching all of these reality shows on peacock or do I actually want to Go outside and actually make something happening and when I realize that it's a little bit of both I still and I do feel like that is a part of existing like the part that I get to live in a universe in which below deck exists I think is actually kind of cool and kind of magical when you think about the grand scheme of life So I do want to appreciate that yeah, but the same time. I also need to appreciate the natural the natural. Yeah Do you want to explore space? No, not even close to it. Don't fucking ever you're not curious a little bit. Well, that would be like fuck now And another thing fuck the ocean Do you understand that when do you have you ever listened to or read interviews of people who come back from space? And I'm not talking like when they sent Gail King up there with Lauren Sanchez I'm talking to people real astronauts that have really been to outer space. I can't say I have no they their interviews are fuck they come back And they're like I saw everything for what it was and I can never go back to the way I felt before I Don't need that shit kind of cool though. It's a little bit dude. I can't I'll have a panic attack not right now. I hope oh yeah But like when you really think about When you really think about how small we are yeah, and how little we matter it's crazy It doesn't matter none of this matters. It doesn't matter. There are there's this thing that comes that that gets searched me all the time online On like Instagram fucking feed. It's like really cute illustrations actually. Yeah, but it's like in 100 years all of us will be dead in 200 years Everybody that you like all anybody that your kids are or whatever will also be dead And it's like in 300 years nobody will remember your name or what you did And I think all the time about like whoever the most famous person alive was in the most talented writer or the funniest guy In 1700 something not only do I not know who it was? I don't give a fuck extra truth and that's gonna happen to us too So I'm like I don't I just am like do I need to like go outside of the earth my home Which I love and see for sure how small we are yeah, and how fragile Don't get me started thinking about asteroids Because they come around anxiety they do come around I was actually just got to see a meteor shower actually this past Weekend they come around they come around and the entire time I was thinking about the man that broke into my house And I was like that's not fair of course because I was like trying to take in the beauty But then that was like a reoccurring thought and I'm like I can't even enjoy that a little bit of PTSD Yeah, for sure he was in this but anxiety is weird like that like there's like weird things that will like trigger my anxiety It's crazy how that's your thing like I have a friend back home named bin who recently told me and it was I was pretty proud of him For like revealing this to me, but he told me that his anxiety was the entire time in high school His anxiety was his mom was paying us to be his friends Was she no Like what where did he come up with that? I don't know, but that's why I'm like that would never give me anxiety like if I knew that my mom was paying my friends What's fucking go? I tried to do a bit with these guys last night mit Nicole Chanson Michelle. We were driving home from dinner Yeah, and I was like I was like you know I was gonna do like a bit where I was like playing Like I don't know like I was like when sometimes when we're all having fun I wonder if like you guys are having as much fun as I am or if you're just pretending cuz you're at work And I was like gonna I was gonna like try and turn it into some sort of like joke I got sad. Well, I didn't get the chance. I didn't get the chance to play because The three of them all immediate were like, oh kill that's really fucking It was like it was like a little wave. It was like I didn't get the chance to like play a character like do this guy I guess I was gonna play like some sort of like CEO guy or something, but literally a first nicoca was like Oh, that's not and then chances like fuck man. That's so sad And then in Michelle and like quick order was like, oh, that's not really good to hear like Fuck okay, but let me cook. I thought we come up with something. Yeah. I don't worry about that I know we're having fun so funny though, but this that's this guy's actual thing all day every day That's fucked. This is the same exact thing. I didn't I will say I didn't like the read the way the reaction felt to me saying that Yeah, I know so I can't imagine what the actual feeling feels like or does that mean it's true that they're that they're all on the payroll And they pretend to have fun with me. I don't think so because none of them are like super nice or talented They're not kind enough to do that performance and if they were they don't have the goods to pull it off you right You're right you're right you're right the three of them No, no, no, I love them, but yeah, I the death stuff comes up a lot at work because when they ask for like fair treatment or better hours Yeah, exactly you will fucking die before you get you will die in 100 years No one will know what time you showed up for work today. Yeah, so why are we talking about so much to show up? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they they have it pretty bad, but you're gonna kill in it right now though Also, yeah, I'm happy to and it's nice to abuse I'm using my power to abuse these people and it feels good But see this is also making me I I again going back to we're super small This is one thing that gets me the majority of people I feel like not you but the majority of people in positions of power and a lot of sectors are Mentally unwell 100% and I even like the GM of like a bask in Robbins. Yeah Almost certain yes, that was just too many or it's it's a weird phenomenon that I feel like no one is talking about enough Yeah, like any like small business sometimes like the person at the very very top I'm talking about like the manager even if they're just managing like a few stores They're just mentally unwell, but it's a broken system and it's not putting enough care and to how we can mend that How do we make that better or can you not make that better? I don't know what better than employee relationship with employer What better? I think the idea of like being able to believe that what's making you so stressed? Is it the amount of work? Is it also your bills on top of that mean that you're also experiencing a whole new wave of Problems that no one can ever fathom like it's just an interesting thing. Does that mean that your human experience should actually be to not achieve? Like it's it puts you in a weird Headspace of us wondering like what is the point of all of this? Yeah, like what is the point of taking on all these different Responsibilities and stress and maybe this is me justifying being lazy and I have no idea You know, but why not why not be lazy? Yeah, or do or don't I don't know it doesn't matter I mean, there's no rules to it. And that's just what it is. I think the point is to have fun yeah, and like love people and be in love and be Loved and show love. I think the point is to make this as I really think the point of being alive is to make the experience For some reason I don't know if there's like a person who wants us to do this or what it is yeah for some reason I think the point is to make it as enjoyable as possible. I think so too. For as many people as possible Not just for yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just make it as nice to have as many pleasant interactions as you can To just kind of create heaven on earth to the extent that you're able. Yeah, and that's it. I think that's the point That's a beautiful sentiment. I hope it's true. I Don't know what happens when we die. I don't know if that's gonna be good. Imagine getting to heaven and gods Like did you get the flag? You're like, oh, there was a flag. There was a flag. I was supposed to capture the flag Are you kidding me dude? I was just hanging out. It was being so nice to everybody. I think you could have captured. 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Yeah Yeah, I will say I was lucky though cuz my mom you know my mom said the other day This was really funny my mom is a really interesting person just in general Yeah, I find her so fascinating and brilliant and she we weren't lunch the other day and She was like She we were talking about we sometimes that we'll go to lunch in Kansas City And we'll just kind of get into like life and like, you know the big questions and we were talking and keep in mind We're at a sports bar and which were a sports or tapers right I don't have to I don't have to code with you You know what the fuck I'm talking? We were fucking the peanut that also the peanut sick Shows in the peanut there. Yeah right there on Brookside. Yeah, it's like we're at the peanut by a table of 16 Like finance bros. There's a summer internship. That's a funny And my mom are cutting it up about like faith and the what happens when we die. Yeah, and I go She somehow it comes up and she goes do you ever think that like maybe this is your last time on earth? Hmm, and I go what do you mean she goes well? I sometimes I think that we get sent back when we die We get sent back to until we like learn whatever less than we were supposed to learn like we didn't learn it in our first five Lifetime the sixth lifetime you come back. You're just keep getting sent back until you learn the thing you're supposed to learn Wow, and I was like, no, I've never really thought about whether or not it's my last time I thought about a lot whether or not it's my first time Because I feel that I've been on earth many times before this lifetime. Yeah, I feel so Hold I feel like I feel so like I hope for sure. Yeah, and anyway, we're talking about that and how the funny thing is I go Okay, how do you square to my mom? She's Christian. Mm-hmm Never been a big church person. Never been very like dogmatic. She's always just like you're supposed to love everybody But a good person. I love the same way too and I go how do you square this like very Eastern kind of like Carmic reincarnation belief that you have yeah with like your belief in like Heaven and Jesus Christ and God. Yeah, and she like takes a sip of her beer and goes I'm never thought about that a day in my life And can I just say legend Absolutely - I mean, you never thought about it. 'Cause if you believe in Christianity, you believe that when you die, you either go to heaven or hell. - Yeah. - But you know, you don't have to believe in that, but that's like the traditional. And I was like, that can't be true if you're getting sent back. And she was like, (laughs) - Sue me. (laughs) - She's like, I don't care. - That's cool as fuck. - That is the, you have a cool mom. - Legendary shit. - It's a cool, cool mom, man. - I'm a Christian and a Buddhist. What's next? - There's nothing wrong with it. I think that there's nothing wrong with it. A lot of people we met about this, but I try to, I treat religion or like beliefs, kind of like a buffet. - Yeah. - Like you want to mean, I'm grabbing a little bit of this. - Yeah. - A little bit of that. - Stacking this one if it looks good. - Yeah. - Just a little bit like what makes me feel good? Like what fills me up? And I feel like I've kind of have like my own personal belief system like this is fine. Like even what you're saying about feeling so connected and that you've been here before, there is a weird philosophy. And I don't know the name of it. I don't know it's like a long time ago. But it's this idea that you individually reincarnate as everybody. - What? - Yes. - And that your role is to literally come back as everyone. So you would take on mischievous perspective. Also again, that means you're not getting benefits either. So you're taking on chances. You're taking on every single person on earth that has lived or ever lived and you live their entire lifetime until you're finished. - So that's just like, what the fuck? - And then you're able to move on to the next phase. - So you don't move on until you've lived all 8 billion people's lives. - But it's more than 8 billion. - 'Cause you gotta do all of this. - Everyone that's ever lived. - But then what about the people after you, you don't have to live like them? - You live like them as well. You're everyone in the history of this simulation of earth. - In everything. - Which I'm trying to break away from the simulation theory 'cause it was created by Elon Musk. And I don't like that kind of stuff. - Elon Musk created a theory. - He said that like a press conference. And I remember him saying the simulation thing and then like everyone in the mom was like, "What if we're living in a simulation?" And like at the time it was cool. - What if he's an evil fucking moron and that just benefits him? - We didn't know that at the time. - I knew it. - Do you remember when he was put it? We were also so ADHD right there. (laughing) - I've never liked him. - 'Cause in this also that means you have to live like Elon Musk. So we're taking this on. But there was a time when he was trying to put this, like put on this whole like billionaires are cool. And like when I die, I'm also going to be able to give away all of my wealth. So you guys should like me. And like in the 2010s I feel like we were very much like, you know what, some billionaires are kind of cool. And then that just took a sharp turn at the start of 2020. You shouldn't get, yeah, you shouldn't get the money in the first place. - No. - You shouldn't be dispensing it at you. It doesn't make any sense. - It doesn't make any sense. - You should be, yeah, I, I've never liked that guy. And the fact that they all want to be funny drives me fucking crazy. - I do. You don't do this. - So deep-caravan love it. That's stupid bitch. - Dude, these people are not. - She just did an interview where she was like, what's something, they were like, what's something people don't know about you. And she was like, probably just that I'm silly when I'm not at work. And I'm like, you are not silly bitch. (laughing) Shut up! No, you are not fucking silly. You know damn well you are not silly. Your husband is 16,000 years older than you. You work for Hitler. You'd get up there in these whole, your face work is horrible. That's not important with silly, but like it's just a thing to say. - It's so crazy. - Not a billionaire being like, I'm kind of quirky. - You are not silly bitch. - I'm not like other girls. You are not silly. You're a fucking, oh my god. You're a foot soldier for the Gestapo. - Literally. Ew. - I'm just like goofy. - No, you're not. - No, you're not. - Stop it. You're not silly. - No, I'm not even that silly. - Dude, I can't. (laughing) - I know you're not silly. I'm not that silly. - No man, if I was a billionaire, I would be doing the craziest things. - I would be truly I think so silly. - What'd you do day one? - Day one of being a billionaire, Brewster's Million's type shit. (groaning) I would do like a statue, but like in a really inconvenient place that would affect other billionaires. - You okay? You like something that is just like so provocative and like I can't even think of what the exact thing would be, but I would just be, I think messing with others within my immediate group. - Sure, you're fucking with the other billionaires. - I think that's a billionaire group chat sending crazy shit. - Yes, if I just accidentally just like got a billion dollars, I would be doing that in a second. I think I would just be like messing with them. - I do want a statue of myself. - That's just something wrong with that. - When I die, I think just throw a statue of me in loose park. - Ooh. - I saw a statue of Jacob Lewson loose park the other day and I say he can't be the only one who gets a statue. - No, right next to it. - I don't even know what he did. - Keep it loose, dude. I, the amount of memories I have in loose park, that's like the first place I ever smoked weed. - Well, no, is it? No, the first place I smoked weed was in Waldo and then was in loose park all the time. Like I don't know if you remember, but like loose park was the place. - It's still the place for me. - I'm in there. - It's so much, but like there was a time period when I was in high school where it was just like hundreds of kids would be there on a Saturday night. - Yeah. - And would just be drinking and would just be doing like all this stuff that I just remember being like this. I don't think anything gets better than this. - Yeah, it was a lot, it was good. They used to, we used to have fun on the plaza too. - Yeah, the plaza too. And then they said it's actually kind of not as good anymore with what you said. - No, it's a lot tough. - Well, 'cause they crack down. They don't want teenagers, whatever, I get it. You don't want teenagers like drunk driving at the plaza. - Yeah. - Toad hard. (laughing) - Killed the vibe, I guess. - I totally get it. That having been said, there's some beautiful memories. (laughing) - I was there for one of those accidental riots on accident. - Yeah. - I think I had literally just left to go to I Spy with who was in that? It was Steve Carell and. - Tina Fey, or no, most of McCarthy. - Yes, whatever. - Was it most of McCarthy and I Spy? - No, I think it was from Princess Diaries. What's your name, Ann Hathaway? - Was it Ann Hathaway? - Oh, you're not referring to the 2002 version, right? - Steve, no, no, Steve Carell and Ann Hathaway. - It's just Spy, right? - Spy, maybe it was just spy. - It was just spy. - Not I Spy. - Drop the eye. - I'm Chance Google Spy. - Spy 2015 film. This would have been. Most of McCarthy, Jason Stafel. - Oh wow. - I don't think Steve Carell was in this. - Really? The movie I saw was Steve Carell. - You're thinking of Couples Night. - No, you're thinking of Get Smart. - Get Smart. - Get Smart, yeah. - That was the one. So me and my cousin Carell were leaving to go see Get Smart. - Who was in it? It was Steve Carell though. - Ann Hathaway. - It was not Ann Hathaway. It has to be Ann Hathaway. - It can't be Ann Hathaway. - It was an adaptation of a 60s TV series. - These are weepers. - Here we go. It wasn't Ann Hathaway. - No! - It was. - It was Ann. - I remember that night. - I remember that night so perfectly. Went to the McDonald's, 'cause I don't think it was noodles and co yet. I think it was to the McDonald's. I don't know. Anyways, then we went to. - It's Kansas City House episode. Getting teeth on the noodles and co McDonald's transition. Let's go. - So then we went outside and it was just chaos in the streets. People on top of cars, people are running the streets, like cops everywhere, like freaking like pepper spraying people. And we were like, oh, we're in, we just like booked it and just ran. People are like hiding in canoes, like in that little light. Like it was a wild night and I will just never forget that. But I remember being like, this was fun, dude. I wasn't who sparked the other day. - Yeah. - I haven't been off weed for a while, so I'm nice. I usually when I'm in there, I'm stoned out of my mind. I'm on a walk, I'm so stoned out and I'm like on another planet. I've been off weed. Since I got off weed, I've been more emotional. - Wow. - And that's not, by the way, I wasn't crazy on weed before. I was only smoking like two or three times a week. - For sure. - Like, I don't know, I've been way more emotional. - Have your dreams become more vivid? - Not that I've noticed, but I'll try to check in. But I was in Loose Park and I was walking and I was down by the pond and I saw, I looked over, it was like sunset and I looked over and I saw a big heart made out of flowers, like a huge one. Like maybe like seven feet tall. - Oh wow. - And then I had like glowing letters on it that said, will you marry me? And right as I looked over, I saw a guy getting down on his knee and proposing to his girl. And there's like, probably 50 people around in the park like walking. Everyone has noticed it and turns and starts cheering and clapping. - Oh my. - I'm gonna cry again. So I immediately start weeping. (laughing) I'm really sobbing. I'm clapping, I'm cheering, I'm clapping. I look like shit, I'm gonna drink this, right? It's like 95 degrees and I'm gonna work out clothes. I'm like clapping and cheering and then I'm weeping. No one else is crying. So then I walk past this bench and there's two older people on it and they see me crying and they, I shit you not. I looked down at them like kind of smiling and crying, being like I'm like we're all part of this moment. I looked down at them smiling and they'll be crying too and they go. (laughing) - The shade for no reason. - They just side eyed the fuck at them. - That's crazy. - And they were like an old couple. And I was like, what, you're too good to be moved by this? - No. - That's in there from Alexa. I couldn't believe it. - They're from Alexa. - I couldn't believe it. - That's insane. - It was extremely hurtful. - That is yeah, 'cause that doesn't feel validating. - I was right. - I was right. - You were right in that situation. - They should've been crying too. - Or at least smiling at me. - It's a beautiful thing. I had the exact opposite thing in Loose Park where I'm like 15 or 16. Me and my friend Ben, same do with the anxiety, are literally, it's also funny and hard to think he thinks it's mom the same thing. - You're at the park with Ben, you're on the clock. - Yeah, literally. I'm like, oh man. Shay, it was late last week. We're in and people, they probably still do, used to do weddings in Loose Park. So it was a huge wedding. We got high by, I believe the tree was called Tarzan. That's what we call it. It's the one that's right in the middle and the leaves kinda like hang over. So we're about Tarzan. - Is it the big racists looking one? - Probably. - One that looks like it's from all the racist movies with the willows. - Yes, and it spells out all lives matter on the top. - Yeah, 100%. - It's insane. So we are like, there's all these people at this wedding and we're blaze out of our mind. We walk over and sit in the back row of this wedding. - Don't have your wedding in the park. - Amazing moment. We see the bride and groom kiss. They get married and him and I start crying. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, we're like 15 or 16, we stand up with everyone. We clap. (laughing) - Such a beautiful hit of a sick moment. Our eyes look like Satan's penis. - Yeah. - Just red, oral. - Yeah. - But no one questioned us being there. - Of course not. - They're in the park. - Yeah, exactly. - Exactly. - Beautiful. - This is so beautiful. (upbeat music) - There's something about fall that makes staying in feel even better. Oh, yeah, that's-- That's what my fans need to hear. 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Yeah, I was, I feel let down by that couple, I feel that they should have smiled at me. That's not fair. I feel that they should have cried and cried. I'm sorry. Hey, well, hey. Thanks, dude. Of course. That means everything. God, I wish I was crying right now. I know. When did you cry the last time? Dude. I'm not the knife. No, I actually can't say, well, I weeped probably like about five days ago for a friend that gave me very exciting news. Oh my God. Yeah. It's their news. They're news. Oh my God. And it's one of those things too, like knowing, especially like at this point, like you've just, you have creative friends that are like also not like your best friends and you kind of know what they've been through and you know, like what they've overcome and like. And so when something like this massive happens, it's one of those things just like, it just makes you just, just like utterly just start crying because I can just feel like that pain but you stuck with it. For a comic friend? Yeah. Damn. That's crazy. I can't wait to hear the news. It's really, really exciting. And I'm very happy and I, I don't know. I just, I just love that type of stuff. Yeah. We love that kind of stuff. One of my favorite moments in comedy, it happens every year is when the SNL announcements start happening. Wailing. And people, I don't give a fuck about that show where it gets on it. Yeah. I do like how much everyone, everyone else, everyone in comedy knows like two a month or so before the announcement. For sure. For sure. It's really fun when people are like, they got a good one. For sure. When it's someone that everyone's like, that person is really funny. Yeah. They've been working really hard. And I feel that way about. That's fun. About Cam Patterson. Yeah. I feel that way about Cam Patterson. Like I met Cam like when he was kind of in like the throes of like Kill Tony and stuff. And like I think with anyone from like that platform that you have like a certain air. Like the nicest and one of the kindest humans that I think that I've ever like done shows with, interacted with and like him getting that just filled me with so much joy. I love that. I think Cam is so funny. He's so freaking funny. So naturally talented and like I think his future is so bright. Yeah. And so like that really made me happy also and I know that and also now being like a new environment for him to be able to learn and be able to grow like I was like, that's really sick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not like rooted in Austin Texas. You know what I mean? I don't want Kill Tony to be the representation of Austin Texas. But you know what I mean? It's not. There's an actually good comedy series. There he is. There he is. There he is. Yeah. Fuck Kill Tony. I can't stand those fucking losers. Yeah. There was a time when like Kill Tony. I feel like also I feel like some of it is like subsided. But there was a time when people were looking at it like kind of like America's got talent. And so comics were just kind of like, are you going to go do it? And I was like, no, I'm not going to go do it. It's dinner for schmucks. Yeah. Yeah. He's a talentless fucking loser. No. He gets off on bringing up people that he knows are not mostly not going to be very good. Yeah. And then we all laugh at them. And isn't it funny that they tried this even though they're not good at it? Not really. Yes. I fucking that whole crowd of people. I'm so just over it. Over it. Over it. I got a bunch of hate messages kill yourself type shit recently because I said, I told a story about some straight guy at a bar asking me if I was, if I had ever been on Kill Tony. And I said, I'd rather fucking die. And people came after you for that? Oh, yeah. Because the Kill Tony crowd, they all have this weird. A lot of these fans of that have this weird belief that they're like some true defenders of comedy or something, that there's some like last bastion of free speech. When they're all actually just a bunch of like ignorant talentless pussyies. And low hanging fruit. That's all they're going through. It doesn't matter what you think of me because I'm an actual comic and you're not. And like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You're like a fan of Kill Tony. But yeah, they're in my DMs. Like, you know. That's crazy. And at the same time, it's like, you guys, you have so many other things that you could be doing. So many other things. And even if they just took a second and just watched the comedy on your page, I think there of mine thought that one would also just be blown. It's like, Hey, while you're here, why don't you just take a second and just peruse? Hey, don't DM me privately to come myself, put it in the comments. Yes. Maybe share it and say, I wish this guy would kill him. Yes. Let's run the numbers. Yeah. 80 promo is good. Provo. All press is good press. I'm down with it. Is that true? It's like, let's push each other out, family. Let's build together. That would hate me. Let that be known. Let people know what you're about. Yes. But my stuff out there. It could be a beautiful partnership. Yeah. People aren't community minded like that. Kind of like what Andrew taped it. I'm sorry. I'm not going to keep talking. Yeah. Didn't you get arrested in Chino's recent? Oh, yes, he did in that. His fit. You see his fit? He was wearing like gouchos. So frick it funny. He was real. He has the trashest fits of all time. Yeah. But it's got to be the worst thing about it. No, yeah. I think he was wearing capris. He was wearing capris. He was wearing capris shirts. And he's like, I'm an alpha male. It's like, dude, you're not. You literally went to Aunt Taylor. You look like a manager at Maurices. Exactly. It's not good. What are we doing? Yeah. I'm not big on the tape, brothers. (laughs) My hot tape. You know what? Not into it. Loki hates extraficking allegedly. Allegedly. Just in case. I'm sure they have good lawyers. (laughs) I hate alleged sex trafficking. It's so, it's like. Ooh, Chances pulled up the fit. Look at this fucking loser. Insane. And these are the guys that they're like, I should want to be like him. They're like, you're fat. I'm like, yeah, I would take it over this any day. Have you ever seen me look that trash? Actually, I've looked worse than that. But I've never looked bad in that one. No. But it's, it's giving Lindsey Lohan an '06. It's like, it's not. It's giving Jamie Lee Curtis as Lindsey Lohan in Freaky Friday. Bitch, you are so busted. Don't you have like a trillion dollars from alleged sex trafficking? Insane. All alleged. Ugh. Close to that tight ass shirt. His nasty little sunglasses. Yeah, man, I find him to be so old. He's just so skis, dude. The fact that young men actually look up to guys like this. I think some of it is ironic, though. Like, I had a roommate who would always call him daddy. Pardon? Yeah. See. (laughs) Sometimes the gay shit gets so-- Yeah, there's the lines get blurred. The ironic gay shit gets so confusing so fast. Nice. It's really weird. Because I'm telling you, it starts as ironic and then. You don't have to tell me. You just start to a gay shit. I went on that journey. (laughs) Wouldn't it be crazy if we took it to this day? Yeah, you think I wasn't doing an ironic gay stuff in the 10th grade? (laughs) You're like, damn, it's crazy. We're all naked at the sleep over right now. Dude, if we jerk off, that'd be hilarious. (laughs) Yeah, it was a gateway. It was gay. Gay irony was a gateway drug to getting laid. (laughs) And it was awesome. That is so funny. Yeah, it's a drug. Gay irony is like the fucking, yeah, it's the precursor. It really is. And so now, that's like a part of the culture also. I don't know. I think people are slowly getting tired of it also. Because it's like, it's not right. And it's othering a lot of people. But then what it's confusing me is like, I have like some gay friends that are also doing it. But I'm like, you can do that. Gay friends are doing what? Gay friends that are like using-- Gay friends that are using like the irony of like gay jokes. Yeah. But I'm like, are you like changing? Because like, I'm straight. But like, I don't know. It's confusing. But I'm like, but maybe that's just the culture right now. Everyone's making the jokes. Gay people are the most homophobic people I know. Man. That's reality. And we are allowed to. Yeah. But it is interesting. You have to wonder if it's for the best. (laughs) Because I feel like, am I like too much of an ally? Then I'm like, don't talk about yourself like that. You are. You're too much of an ally in a beautiful way. And so I am like sometimes like but I need to like sit back and I'm just gonna listen and they're just talking so bad about themselves I'm never talking about about me. I do think with the queer community we need to be we need to get back in touch with Well, I don't I feel like the tender queer thing kind of took over for a minute Yeah, I don't think it's the time for that. I think it's the time to have a bit of an edge I think it's the time to take a joke. Yeah, I think it's the time to be like I think we need to toughen up a little bit Yeah, everything got a little too soft for me. Yeah, I can see that too I don't like it everyone's everyone's too soft about the specifically about I like softness in general But specifically the inability to take jokes about ourselves. I'm just like I don't know I think it's kind of more fun to do that. Yeah, for sure Let's just be into it and it opens up like the landscape to like kind of I don't know It opens up the landscape in my paintings like equality almost all the way also. I don't know Well, that's the thing if you're not joking about people if there's a group of people you won't joke about my feeling is that you don't respect them Yeah, that you think that they're like you think that they're too like Dainty or sensitive or stupid to be in on your joke for sure. That's I will joke about anybody I don't think that that's I don't ever want someone to feel like they can't joke about me. Yeah, I want a joke about me I there are great jokes about me that I love for sure sometimes I see a mean joke about me that is genuinely rooted in mean-spiritedness A thousand percent good show. How do you handle that's really funny? How do you handle that though? Do you feel like I am happy with like This the idea of like getting like a lot of views on clips or like the idea of getting like a lot of followers I'm happy that I'm getting that now at the age that I'm at. Yeah, because I feel like I'm able to like I don't take anything seriously that I see for the most part on anything Yeah, and so it doesn't ever really bother me But I think that if I was probably about 10 years younger I think that I would be like damn near almost suicidal. Of course. Yeah. I'm so glad I didn't get successful when I wanted it a thousand percent I'm glad I got it when I had already kind of made peace with the idea that it might not happen And it didn't take it but I I'm not somebody who's like I was in bad old for years. Yeah. I had a very lucky journey Mm-hmm. I'm on a very lucky journey. I love my life. I feel so grateful But yeah, I'm glad I didn't get success when I first wanted it the first like viral moment I believe I saw years with the astrology video astrology video. You would be like what time like I like a Ask your parents as if that was the first viral moment that I remember saying I know That was the first one that I was like that was like this is one of the I should I probably seem like ten people I think this is one of the funniest things in the world damn dude. That's so nice. That was Twitter. That was like yeah I remember the I've been like 2019 or something. Yeah, I don't remember like this is really funny And I'm so happy to see that the way that everything is grown But you're right though. I just feel like so much more grounded in like knowing who I am that like nothing could really kind of like I don't know doesn't hurt my feelings. I guess. Yeah, you mean comment. Yeah. That's really interesting. Yeah What why are you doing all this? What do you want? What's the big goal? What's the big idea? I? Think I just want to make good art. Yeah, I think it's really that simple like I I think like the why that I think that I learned in like College I think it's really just I want to make people laugh. Yeah, there's really anything else If I get if if someone walked in here right now, I was like Aaron here's five million dollars to make one thing Yeah, what is the thing you would make immediately? I want to do entertainment on a high level Yeah, but I want to make people laugh on a high level. Yeah, so like whatever that encompasses like right now It's it's stand-up and also it's definitely like YouTube and so being able to continue to do that really is just like the mission. There's no like There's no like hey, are you what I mean? Yeah, you're not I can't just script You're like yeah, I just want to continue I just want to continue doing this and then eventually be able to fund other people to be able to do the same thing I could definitely see myself like when I'm older Having like a management company of sorts or like just kind of like and maybe that's like a production company But not even like that like just to be able to help and being able to build other artists up that might not have the resources But I think like it's just as simple as I like people have it's fun. I love writing. I just like that. Who are your heroes? Who are the people you've up to when you were starting? When I was trying I think every young black male would say Dave Chappelle So I think like no matter what that's like square one like just how That came into my life. I was like in freaking Branson Was in Branson over Vegas of the Midwest. Yeah, and we're at like a time share and it's like you know And it was like one of those things where you're like my mom has to go like a meeting just to make sure that she can Have this entire like nice ass condor for like a week and that was fun But like my cousin like put in like a Dave Chappelle DVD and like watching this Chappelle show I think like made me be like this is what I want to do like I want to do this and then I actually literally I Would have been in middles. No, I would have been in elementary school and that happened and then I got into his stand-up In the seventh grade and I watched killing him softly and at that point And I was like I'm gonna do this. I actually started like two years later. You did you first open like a New York 16, right? 15. Yeah, at Stanford Suns. Did you ever go to Stanford Suns? Do you have any relation to Stanford Suns? I believe I went one time. Yeah, I did my I did my first open Mike in Kansas City when I was 18 yeah at Art bar. Yeah. I miss our bar man dude. That was an era and a half dude I bombed in a way that like Isn't even understandable. I bombed in a way that like that those walls have actually not seen before I bombed in a way that I didn't do stand-up again for like two more years. Are you serious? Oh, I was like you this is not for you But oh, that's crazy And I still don't think I mean I love stand-up and I love the the the Craft of it in the art of it and I love a lot of jokes that I've written. Yeah, I still don't think stand-up is my most natural thing I love special was really good though. Thanks you. I appreciate it. I love doing it But I still am like I have to work harder at stand-up than I have to work at other things Mm-hmm. It's not the most natural thing to me. There are people that it's just like I feel like they're like right away They're just like yeah, it's immediate. Yeah, for sure And I don't think that's necessarily my vibe. But I think that's what's cool about right now is like the multi-hyphen it artist I think it's like a cool concept. I love the idea of being able to like To be able to like make the art bigger like right now like my obsession is soundtracks Yeah, so like yes I've been having a fun time with the project that I just released that was like it was like 10 episodes like a YouTube series And then I had like a soundtrack on top of that and it kind of all connected But I'm like that's my shit now. We didn't get them any views But it was but I'm like that the fact that I'm even in the position to be able to like even make those things like that is like all I want to all I want to do you made the music made the music yeah I mean with like other actual musicians But that's what I mean like writing I can write a great song. I think I can write a I think a good script And I can write stand up like like writing is really at its core of like what I really really enjoy doing and then I think that everything else kind of like adds to that right so like the acting adds to that the music adds to that But it always able for me to be able to use that specific medium In different ways. Yeah. Yeah, do you feel like a positive person? I think for the most part I think that sometimes I feel really negative and then even when I'm being negative everyone's like you're being too nice I'm like I feel like shit. What are you talking about? I feel like you're an extremely positive. Yeah, I think maybe it good energy Yeah, for sure. I think that like Yeah, I think some of that is like my midwestern roots like definitely like I come from the product of like like flower children Like ask like everyone's like gone to the world like be a good person And so I think I try to carry that with me on the flip side of that too like I can be a dick at the same time You know what I mean? But only when it's warranted. What's your mom like you said your mom was like spiritual but in the way that like Same same not the same vibes as your mom But like my mom would definitely classify herself as a Christian, but like it was never like Although I will say the church home that I have in Kansas City was dope Yeah, and anyone that was there at that same exact time will reiterate that same phrasing. It was actually Emanuel Cleaver's church Yeah, it was legend. Yeah legend Like it was he is so dope. He has done so many great things for the city him and his family are incredible Evans at UCB Just I really cherish like those Moments but like that environment and that vibe Different from other Denominations of Christianity. I just feel like nothing was ever like force and at its core It was really always about just being a good person. And so I think that I really As I've gotten older I'd never feel like there were like strict rules that I've had to adhere to It's always been like find yourself within like what you've also gotten from that lesson And so I think that I'm really happy that I had that experience. Yeah. What made it so? Different like as you've gone out into the world after that and gone to other churches or seen other churches Like what do you think was the thing that made your church in Kansas City like so different? I think it's just the vibe of like just being a good person like the ease of it And the ease of it like I never felt like anything was ever like forced upon me I never felt like there was like any belief that was like you have to get this like you have to understand this and you have to be like this It was very much like we showed up and it's like hey, you know, this is a a nice little tidbit for you to be able to take away As you go through your week and that's really nice now I will say it was hard transitioning for me and I'm curious if you had the same thing because like especially coming from like What I would consider like an insular environment Chicago was very turbulent for me and I don't ever feel like I was able to find my footing just simply because it was such a major Culture shock because that makes sense and like kind of actually it's so crazy because me and my girlfriend were watching you're special We have a lot in common and although it wasn't on like the level that I feel like you experienced my mom is a bit of a hoarding problem Also, so growing up within all of that I Found it I didn't wasn't processing enough so what Chicago for me in those five years is all about just like processing like what I had been through and What had actually just happened and meeting other people that have a completely different perspective than what I have and that was tough I think for those like few years that I was there But did you experience anything like that or like was it a pretty ease like an easy transition my biggest Thing like that was I worked in political organizing, like when Chance and I were in college. I was like doing political organizing and doing like volunteer training and working for Senator, the Senator in Missouri, Claire McCaskill at the time, you remember, shout out Claire. Most centrist Democrats who's ever lived. And I worked, yeah, I worked for a lot of campaigns and did stuff like that. And I found the organizers that I met, the politicians were all centrist, and I had disagreements with them about a lot of things, but I felt like you, in a place like Missouri, you take what you can get. And it's better than the Republicans because when the centrist Democrats fell in line, they actually feel now that we have an opportunity to replace them with more radically left people because I think that so much has changed in the last 20 years. But when they fall in line, they fall in line on the side of abortion being legal and weed being legal and gay people being able to get married. And when the Republicans, even if they are centrist fall in line, they fall in line on the side of all those things not being true. Keeping in mind that both of them ultimately just the answer to corporations the whole time. But I was cool with that. But the activists that I knew and the organizers that I knew were some of the most radical and about it, like people I've ever met to this day. And when I moved to Chicago and started talking to like organizers and political people, I was shocked at the laziness. And I was shocked at the entitlement. And I couldn't believe the, I just couldn't believe what I was hearing. I was like, oh, we have like a super majority. We could do anything. We live in Chicago, Illinois. Exactly. And you're in the lack of imagination, I couldn't believe. Like there are people, there are organizers in Southern Missouri that were like straight up like radical Marxists, like leftists. That's so wild. Left of me. And they believed that we could get shit done there. That's crazy. But then I moved to Chicago and there was no political imagination about a better world. There was no political imagination about desegregation of the city or there was no political imagination about like redistributing wealth or like making life better for working people really at all in the circles that I was talking in. And I was not in, it's not like I moved there to be an activist. I moved there to be a comedian. There's plenty of places I could have looked that I didn't look. It's not to say anything about Chicago. But that would be shocking though also just giving the political history of Chicago. Chicago, which is why I'm saying this. Chicago people do not fucking come from me. I don't want to hear it. No, yeah, great. There are brilliant, amazing, very about it. Serious activists in Chicago. Yeah, they definitely are. And I learned so much. I didn't know anything about prison abolition before I moved to Chicago. I learned everything about it in Chicago. Yeah. There are plenty of very serious activists that are way smarter than me, way more about it than I am. I'm saying in my circles, which were similar to my circles in Missouri, which were like young artists. Yeah. I was surprised by the lack of imagination and the laziness. That's wild. Now, had I been hanging out more in like around you Chicago, on the south side, like in high parking things like that. I'm sure I would have met more serious activists. For sure. But all that is to say, in my circles, it was a little accident. And that was the big shock for me. I can't believe this. Yeah, that's really crazy. And I think you're right. For me, it was exploring outside of the comedy scene and then starting to meet more people that were really about it. Yeah, that's really interesting. That's really crazy. Where'd you go to college? I went to Missouri State. So sick. Met him there, yeah. That's a little cool, man. It's, I would call it a double-edged store, a blessing and a curse, meeting chance. Why do you say that? There are beautiful things about it, but there are horrible things as well. There are horrible things as well. Like when we lived together in Chicago and he slept walk and would wield a knife. Are you serious? Well, that was one. I did. Scary bitch. Were you in my house last week? No. No. I did remind me of a change when you said that. Really wild. I found two. I found them once. We had some unkind neighbors and I was going to let them know how I felt about it. And that's all I'll say. In his sleep, crazy. Wait, do you still sleep walk? Not to my knowledge. I live alone now, so I might. So you might, that's a new thing for me. I've like never now like being in a relationship for two years. I'm learning I recently, I popped up from my sleep. My eyes wide open and this has been happening a lot. It's just like an example. I said, do you see the portal? No. I'll tell you what you wouldn't be doing. If you were dating me, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Yeah, I don't know. There will be no portal. Another night, another night, I was like, look at all these kids. No. Yeah. I'm really putting this girl through hell. I don't feel really, but you were in a script. No. So be garage. How do Sophie? She what? Her and Claude wrote the script. And they loved the notes that you gave them. They were so great. Well, you took the time to do that. I felt, you know, I feel sometimes when I give, when someone asked me to give notes, I always say, are you sure? Yeah. Because I'm, I don't hold back. If I'm giving you notes, I'm going to give you the real notes. And that script is great. And I've had a lot of notes because I had a lot of thoughts about it. Yeah. My notes are almost like more involved when I actually believe in something. If I read something that's really bad, I just go like, yeah, here's the things I could give you to make for sure. For sure. But when something actually has so much potential, I'm like, this is what I think. Yeah. I'm one guy. It was just really nice if you'd like take the time even. But that script is great. Yeah. That's so cool. I'm really going to join together. Yeah. She should leave you. That's some scary shit. Floating puppets one time, my soul. No, you did not. Yeah. Because that week I was making a children's puppet show, like an adult children's puppet show. And then all I was thinking about was puppets. So I guess I was like sleep talking, but I get up. Sometimes I stand up. But then I only talk to her. I don't talk to anyone. It's really, it's a strange thing. I've got to figure it out. You certainly do. I promise you, if anyone's ever sleeping in my bed and eyes by it open and says, do you see the portal? It'll be the last time they go to sleep in my bed. That's crazy. There's no portals. And frankly, there's no kids. That's really wild. That's crazy. I'm worried about you. That's crazy. Yeah, it's fine though. I had a friend. Oh, well, I actually shouldn't say that. Aaron, tell me what's so true to you. Oh, my gosh. I thought for a long time about this. And you're one of the first guests to ever do that. Oh, my gosh. I really did. Because I have so many opinions that I feel very strongly about. I want to say before I say this, I have said this opinion in front of rooms that some people would only wish to be in. Yeah. And all of those people probably think less of me now. But I'm sending 10 toes on this. Yeah. The movie Zoe 102 that was released in July of 2023. I believe had some of the best cinematography of the year. Now, you might be wondering, why am I pointing this out? Well, if you remember Caleb, that was the same summer of barbenheimer. And I'm willing for anyone to challenge my thought in opinion, the one of the most, they took so many risks. They took so many chances, some would say chance. And they made a very, very beautiful piece. And I just believe that it never got the love that it deserved. It was shot so well. The D piece name is Matthew Rudson. And that man is a young prodigy. And I hope that he is still working in this town because he can honestly, he can move water. So I didn't see the film. And so I don't have, I don't have a leg to stand on here. I'm going to watch it. You should. It's beautiful. I'm going to at least watch enough of it to get a sense of the cinematography. Bro, they did like a bird man thing where they didn't cut for like three minutes. Zoe 102. Yes. Talk. I'm telling you. There was no reason for them to go with this hard. And it just looks just utterly beautiful. Did you watch Perfect Days? No. Came out the same year. One of my favorite movies of all time. I can't speak on Perfect Days. I can't speak. Here's the assignment. Okay. You're going to watch Perfect Days by Vem Vendus. Absolutely. And I'm going to watch Zoe 102. Done. And we're going to compare. We're going to compare notes. Absolutely. We're going to do like that thing the long distance couples do where we press play at the same time. One, two, three. Instead of the same movie, it's these two. Let's talk about that. I'm so down. Let's do it. I love it. That's crazy. I've not seen it. I wish I had. Man, that's fucking crazy. You're going to love it. And I'm going to watch the huge swing that you've taken on. It's the truth. And I was I'm I'm standing ten toes on that. Now just so I'm clear, this is Zoe 101. This is a reboot. Reboot. But it was just a movie. They didn't do a TV show. It's like an hour and a half. But it's it's absolutely just it's beautiful. Yeah. It's beautiful. All right. I'm going to look into it. Okay. I'm going to watch Perfect Days. Zoe 102. Yes. That's so interesting of you to say. I know. I'm scared. I shouldn't be cinematographies as you shouldn't be you're prepared. Just be prepared. I'm prepared. The way they use light. Like I'm telling you. Really insane. It really isn't saying no one talked about it. Yeah. But it makes sense though. I've done research on the DP. And by the way, do not know this man. Yeah. I have no reason to glaze him as much as I am. But the truth is is like he films a lot of commercials. Because I went on his IG obviously after I watched the film. And I think that you can see it in the film where like there's some commercials like a Kay Jeweler's or like some of that like like is trying to show you like light or like a beautiful product. It shows throughout the entire piece. Yeah. So it's just shot in a really pretty way. Some of our best directors and DP's come from commercial. Exactly. A lot of great directors start out doing commercials. Yeah. And their stuff is fantastic. And they're also used to like doing super tight stuff with small budgets in a quick turn around. Yeah. Like it's just kind of like, yeah, it's hard work. And it makes sense. Yeah. So I'm happy that they gave them the opportunity to do that. Hell yeah. And I hope to meet you Matthew one day. I shout out Matthew. This will get to him. If I've learned anything about this stupid podcast, no matter what gets set on here, I have had people. I've told stories from my child. That's crazy about someone's third cousin and I'll get a fucking text. It's like hey That's really wow the easiest thing a girl that I work with brought up that I was mentioned on your hot guys So what the fuck is up? I'm like what the fuck it didn't used to be like this But I promise you this DP will hear word of this that's so sick and I hope you get a reach out from it Oh, I absolutely love that Zoe one oh two and I hope you get a reach out from the screenwriter as well because a little bit of a straight was Zoe 101 it was great. It was great what about 102 nice, okay Anyone play a game. Let's do it. All right cool. I'm gonna read you 15 statements You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if what I just said was true or false. Okay, if you get ten or more correct I'm gonna give you 50 us dollars. Are you ready? Let's do it Hugh Jackman is older than John stamos I'm going to say false it is false a bushel is 64 pines I'm gonna say true is true Creed the band has won exactly one Grammy Yeah, I'm gonna say true. I just true the found the founder of white castle burgers was born in 1880 True that is true. Yeah, Bishop mage's high school girls basketball team has won 20 has won state 26 times true false Why they have it 24? The film Oppenheimer made 1.1 billion dollars one of the chances true false What nine hundred eighty three million. Oh, I start off strong. Oh The boss and Red Sox mascot is Wally the green monster I think he's red so I'm gonna say false. It's true. Wow the mathematical the mathematical symbol for division is called a divisible I'm good. I'm so I'm so man. I'm gonna say true. It's false. Dang it. It's an obelisk Obelisk lock in lobsters can live to be a hundred years old true That's true. The Kansas State motto is to the stars do difficulties. I want to say false. I don't true true It's true. It's like at Esper per Esper or something like that. I'm a Missouri boy. I think you shot out for sure GPS was originally developed for use in hospitals true false the military Lake Michigan is the largest great lake False false it's Lake Superior. Yes Shakira is 4 foot 11 I I'm actually gonna say true. It is true. Yeah, she's small. She's very small a little tiny great performance The the food network began broadcasting in 1979 true false 1993. Dang it Columbia College Chicago's mascot is the cosmos false. It's true. No, it's not true That's what it says on here. What do you think it is? No, we don't have a man. Look at that. I don't I think it's like a It's the we're the renegades Chance does get these wrong sometimes. I think we're the renegades. I have I've news for you. It changed last year. Oh Chance You're a sick fuck Technically you are, but you see what I'm saying. Look at the way he's acting right now. Oh, that's like jigsaw Crazy, he acts like fucking jigsaw from the movie series saw No, he's so scary. He's so scary. That's fucked up. That's crazy Give him that and then tell me how many he got nine nine he got eight he got eight if you don't count the cosmos. Yeah Close so close so close you were really close so close you didn't trust your god on a couple of those I should have just gone with what I you know what I mean, but I'm gonna study in next time I got you. Yeah, just come back better Yeah, I will come back stronger next time better faster stronger harder, etc It's all I can do erin. This was such a delight. This was so much fun Do you want to tell people how they can support you where they can find you? When is come out? We don't know when this comes out. It's such as it's such a beautiful and special process I'm probably on the forehead XXL tour at the time this comes out So you could go to the forehead tour.com for those tickets other than that Instagram at branch at erin branch world and then tick-tock at branch boy comedy. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm in rock on do Thanks for doing it Caleb. You're the best. Thank you so much to you. You're the best

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speaker reflects on a mix of personal experiences, including his father’s stroke and a chaotic staycation with his girlfriend, which ended with a homeless man breaking in, making a mess, and being gently arrested.
  2. He shares a deep personal reflection on mortality, exploring beliefs in reincarnation and karma, while acknowledging the emotional complexity of death and existential fears, especially through conversations with his mother who blends Christian and Eastern spiritual views.
  3. The conversation touches on broader societal issues like mental health in leadership roles, the illusion of control in work and life, and the importance of human connection, joy, and authenticity over productivity or success.

Summary:

The conversation unfolds as a candid, reflective exchange between two friends, blending personal anecdotes with philosophical musings. The speaker recounts a series of events—from his father’s stroke to a messy staycation in Ohio, where a homeless man broke in and made a scene—highlighting both chaos and the importance of personal boundaries. These experiences are framed within a larger meditation on mortality, consciousness, and belief systems.

He reflects on his mother’s belief in reincarnation, contrasting it with Christian views of heaven and hell, showing how spiritual ideas can coexist. The discussion deepens into existential concerns about death, the fragility of human existence, and the illusion of permanence in a world where memories and identities fade over time. He also critiques the entertainment industry and societal structures, pointing out how people in positions of power often lack mental well-being.

Ultimately, the speaker finds meaning in human connection, joy, and authenticity—emphasizing that the purpose of life may be to create beautiful, meaningful experiences for others rather than achieve success. The tone is introspective, humorous, and deeply human, underlining that life’s greatest value lies not in avoiding fear, but in embracing it with compassion and presence.

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Yes, some people believe in reincarnation, especially in Eastern philosophies. The speaker's mom, a Christian, finds it fascinating to blend her faith with the idea of returning to life after death, saying she never thought about it before. She believes in both Christianity and reincarnation, viewing them as compatible rather than conflicting.

The speaker believes they’ve lived many lives before, and that each life is a chance to learn and grow. They feel a deep connection to past lives and think that people are reincarnated repeatedly until they’ve learned what they’re meant to learn.

The speaker reflects on death with both fear and curiosity, noting how it makes them more aware of life’s value. They believe that people who die may return to learn lessons, and they find it unsettling yet meaningful to consider what happens beyond life.

During a staycation in Ohio, the speaker’s roommate brought a friend home who, believing the speaker was in the house, entered without permission. The man was seen making food with a knife, wearing unusual clothes, and left a messy mess. The speaker and their girlfriend later found out he was homeless and had a mental health condition, not a criminal intent.

The speaker felt violated because the man entered their home with a knife, used a Cheetah blanket on their bed, and was boiling water in a skillet—actions they found disturbing and unsafe. The situation triggered anxiety and a strong sense of personal boundary violation.

Yes, the speaker believes many people in power—like managers in small businesses—are mentally unwell. They think this is due to a broken system that doesn’t prioritize mental health, leading to stress and emotional exhaustion among employees.

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