1211: A Wild Wentworth Finish + Details on Tour’s Future

[MUSIC] >> Be the right club today. >> Yes. >> That is better than most. >> How about him? >> Better than most. [MUSIC] >> Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast. Sully here, first real like fall one, first, you know, football Sunday, late night pod. I got my guys here. DJ Pi is here. Hello, Pi Mim. >> Hello, Sully. Good to be with you. Lots of fun golf to talk about. I'm pumped to be here. >> Sneaky good golf week. TC is here. Hello, TC. >> Greetings. I got the clapper on my second screen here. All is right in the world. >> What's your favorite TVS half time show is abhorrent with Nate Burleson and Cole. >> TC has been waiting all day. You know that. >> How are they doing with Sunday night football? Is it like NBC sports net or something, or Sunday baseball, I mean, you know, NBC? >> It's probably a peacock and the brewers are on the base. >> No, it's on. I've got it on forever. >> I have a massive fantasy application. It's on TV. With YouTube TV, I'd never know where we are. Anyways, let's get back on track winners from around the world, JJ respond over at Went Worth and won the BMW PGA, Jacob Bridgman, wins the inaugural, built more sandy Scott, wins the nationwide in Columbus. >> Shout out to Strap. We played with his brother, Calum, attacks the tech at the Rawls course. Love it. Congrats to Sandy. >> Shout out to Nair and Golf Club and exactly up there. >> Yeah. >> The Gang. >> The Commish, the associate at the Rawls. >> Well, as Juniper Jang, wins the El Dorado shootout on the Epson tour in a playoff over Kate Smith, Stro, the No-Ling up podcast, of course, brought to you by our friends at Tyler's TC. You're up tonight. We've been fit into basically everything we've got. I want to hear your best fitting example, like, you know, light bulb going off moment you've had with getting fit by Tyler. >> Light bulb going on moment. >> Yeah. This is big. He got in my ass about this a couple weeks ago. I have a much more coherent set up this year. I've got the, I mean, GTS-3 for driver and then I go forward to seven wood to, like, a souped up four iron. Now, I've got the U-505 four iron with the blue souped up shaft in it. And I feel like I've got, I finally have control of the middle of my bag. The seven wood, I'm still, I'm still learning how to, how to play that thing or still, still getting to know that, but the four wood's been a complete revelation. It's been great off the tee. It marries up everything I loved about my three wood and everything about my five wood with none of the stuff that I didn't like. And it just allows me to have just consistent gapping all the way through my bag and the three and a half four iron that I've got has been a freaking game changer, especially when playing overseas or playing on firm turf. So that's kind of the unlock for me. I'm still gaming that 44 degree bokeh pitching wedge as well. That's like, that's become the favorite club in my bag by far, too. Well, this is an underrated part of getting fit is the, people think it just means like the specs, the loft, lion go loft, all that, you know, the grinds, all that, but it's also just your gapping, like figuring out your gapping is something that you want to put, uh, descent angle. I never thought about descent angle on me. I was going to say, like, it's not just 3Ds, man. Yeah. Just a, well, now I know distance. It's gapping your descent angles and your, and your, you know, your apex heights and all that stuff. Head to titles.com to find a fitter near you. So you can be raving about your setup. Like Mr. TC is here, but the T 153 iron in recently closed that gap between the, you know, my woods and my ears. It's been awesome. I love that one. Good one to hit off the 18th. It went worse. I did go back to where we're going. I thought that's where I was. Exactly where I go. It was perfect. That's perfect. Thank you. Philippa Shelley and Manuel Elvira, they took a one shot lead over Johannes, Vierman, Alejandro Del Rey and JJ Spon, uh, Rory and Neiman and Adam Scott opened the day two shots back. JJ was just one under on the day through 13. He made a two on the 14th, birdied 15 birdied 16 didn't get the par five 17th. Hit the 18th into, uh, to shoot 67 birdies, four of his last five took a two shot lead but just for a moment, Manuel Elvira, while JJ was still standing on the 18th green, had a putt from just nine feet for eagle rolled that in that left him up into a tie with Spon. A lot of people were birdying 18. It looked like Elvira could go and just birdie 18 the par five and go on to win the BMW PGA. He proceeded to hit iron off the T, uh, which I did go back and look. It looks like he did do that the other three. He laid up all three days. I don't know what he hit on the other days, uh, but he laid up from two 15. And earlier in the week, uh, today was I believe from two 54 just to 20 something to the front, but from the fairway laid up into a bunker hits it from the bunker over the green gets relief from the from the grandstand, uh, in the drop area, weights you friendly European tour drop area. They they've been known for being better, better with, uh, that was right. That wasn't friendly. Well, it's like, it's good grass like usually they'll put it in like the worst grass. But that's, that's what the RNA does. They put it in the bad grass. It was that little square and it was like, Hey, I don't know where you're going to put it. I would have loved to have seen it way, way over on the right. So you had to chip more straight towards the water. Like it would have been a nightmare for us, but I don't think for a pro. I mean, I guess he did chip it into the bunker. He just chipped it straight into the bunker, uh, wet, you know, needed to hold it then just to get into a playoff now, hit it to five feet six inches, missed that putt for solo second, dropped back into a tie at 15 under with Aaron Rye, Adam Scott and Rory McElroy. It's unbelievable. It was unbelievable. It won't get to JJ Spawn here, but it was, I mean, is the 294th ranked player in the world. It would have been obviously a career defining win. Eagles, the 610th yard, par five, 17th and then turns around and does this on 18. And I don't know, man, if you are a professional golfer, you got to be able to have a two 40 shot that you got to just miss a creek like all you had to do with that second shot was not hit it into the creek. I just didn't see that as an overly threatening shot. And I know he put in play the previous two days, but it's just a, it was a shocking, shocking sequence of events. I think maybe even, even back and up or zoom in out a little bit, I think part of what made it so shocking was how great the golf tournament was to watch in the first place. And it was just, I'm up in my parents in like central Wisconsin here and doing some bunch of home improvement projects this weekend. And I was like painting this morning, turn that on. I think my heart rate was like 36 watch, I was so, I've never been more relaxed just watching like this great broadcast on a just, you know, familiar golf course that's playing really fun, great cast of characters, big names, you know, all over the place, Rory and Adam Scott and all these guys kind of throw in haymakers Aaron rise, doing his thing, JJ spawn is, you know, got all the presidents cup kind of implications. And then Manuel of El Vira is like this kind of, oh my God, he looks like he's going to be the guy that does it. Is he going to, is he going to outlast all these guys? And it was just this, I hadn't watched a tournament like that for a while. That was just this kind of taking time bomb over like two hours, you know, it was just like a really good two hours kind of building to the unfortunate series of events for him. But man, it was just a, just a thrilling watch. It was kind of every, that's like everything I'm looking for from a golf tournament this morning. It was outstanding. I couldn't agree more. It looked like Rye was in complete control for a while. He laid up. He laid up. What are you doing? The commentators are talking, they're basically talking shit about him. Yeah, I'll read some of these out. He's not going to do it though, I'll be very surprised if this man has a crack. He's just not that type of golfer. It's a wedge. It's a wedge. Sometimes you just have a crack and I reckon this is one of those times, but it's a wedge. And I feel like those guys can just say, I'm assuming it was radar and cold tart was there. Like it was basically one of those things of like, if you have an accent, I think you can just say whatever you want. For sure. Yeah. And I mean, Rory was hitting seeds off the tee on 17 there, Elvira's eagle on 17 was unbelievable second shot in there, Foxy playing the exact opposite way from, from Rye and just putting it, putting it all on the table. It was, they had great crowd shots. Like European tour productions, I was, I was, I was like, I was like, and this is so freaking good. And then they lost the audio. It was the last, which 25 wasn't the worst thing in the world. Maybe it was even additive too. Yeah. My, my view is, of course, very distracted. I was like, Oh, they doing this on purpose because I, it kind of seems like something European tour would do. I'm like, yeah, big, our biggest tournament. We're going down the stretch. No commentators. And it's like, it was, like it, it drew me in, like it, it attracted me to the TV in terms of like, all right, well, I don't have somebody to just like, I can't casually watch it right now and hear what they're saying. I need to actually be paying great attention to this. It was, like, and like, it was the best I've seen went worth play in a decade. I mean, it just burned out in all the right spots. And there was actual texture instead of it just looking like a soggy kind of super greened out thing. They could be anywhere in the UK that you mean the trees are there. like they're in proportion, they hit some great crowd shots, like these long drawn out, like 30, 40 second crowd shots. So just like you're mean, like, man, this is a big ass tournament. And it's 100% spawn had some great stuff in his, his, his post-round comments just about how much he's enjoyed going over to the UK and, and seeing all that. And you know, we can get into some of the red ass that he had post president's cup selections and everything. But it was such a weird fun leaderboard too. Like Uncle Yost was there. Foxy fits, you know, McElroy. And then you got, yeah, you got Virman who's a 34 year old American who I was like, wait, this guy's American. Johan is a Virman. His American turns out he was born to a Dutch, a Dutch father and an Indonesian mother. He sounds, sounds kind of like a, a zander, softly hybrid kind of thing going on. Yeah, it was just, it was delightful, man. Like that's everything I'm looking for out of a Sunday morning viewing experience. Couldn't agree more watching Rory just hunt too. Like Rory looks like a big game hunter today. He couldn't get a couple of those puts to go down the stretch. But yeah, the shots he was shaping off the T's hit that unbelievable recovery out of the other trees. I'm, I forget what whole that was 12. Yeah. It was T.C. You mentioned the camera shots. Not, not to go there before even like get to J.J. spawn. But that truly, like that's part of it with, with Elvira on 18, they're like shooting between two people in the bunker. I mean, it was just awesome. I just, yeah, I was, I was glowing watching that this morning. It was like you said, it was like, I don't know if I've very much a me problem probably, but I just feel like I've kind of missed this event the last couple years. You know, it's just it, it's kind of a time of year where you feel like kind of letting your hair down here in America. You get through the playoffs and you get through, you know, you're kind of gearing up for a rider cup or whatever. And it's just kind of an easy one to, easy one to say like, oh, I went to the farmer's market that morning or whatever. You know, it's just an easy one to miss. And today, yeah, I was just completely locked in and it made me regret missing it the last couple of years. I just loved it. Which to our European listeners, like also American football rules everything. Like you flip over into football season and it's, you know, and it doesn't go head to head with it is kind of what makes it part of the delight is it is good morning viewing. But yeah, you switch your brain, you know, not only into the team events as well, but like for us, it's like other projects and video stuff and things we've put off because we've been, you know, running a tough stretch all the way through the end of the PJ tour season. But it does always the end just always slaps like it. There's always like it might be manufactured a little bit, but it always works. Dude, that 18th hole feels like you're watching like TGL or something. It's just so bad. It's good. Like the worse it's gotten, the better it's gotten the center. 100%. It is the challenge is not subtle. It is, it is black and white. But man, it made for some great, great drama. The wind was down a little bit today. So everybody, you know, pretty much everybody except Aaron, right? Could have a crack, could have a go. It was just, I mean, it was just great. Like you're, I love, love, love, love. When tournaments like that, when you can kind of just feel it building, like the fever pitch building to the final group, when you're just watching guy after guy after guy, try to hit that shot on 18 and how's it going to go and how's it going to go? And you're just kind of building all this context so that when when the leader finally gets there, you know exactly what he has to do. You've watched 10 other people try to do it. It's just, it's just great on a do or die hole like that. I just can't get enough laying up into a bunker. Like when he, I just gasped. And then, and then afterwards, the, you know, his older brother Nacho, if you're a puts his arm around him and they're walking down and he gives him a really nice, so it goes a really nice moment. But it was almost like, I almost felt like it was me and Neil, and Neil instead of blowing it long over the green, he laid up into a bunker. And it's like, I tried to do the right thing. I know, I'm trying to play it. Yeah, on had some good quotes about that too. Like when he lost the players to Rory, basically Rory kind of doing that same thing and just being like, yo, it's this is going to all lead to something better. You got to go through moments like this, you know, yada yada yada. So hopefully it is that. Hopefully it's not like a big scar tissue thing. It's, it's a learn from it moment. It reminded me of like, as a kid trying to break 80 and just being in such amazing position and finding the, the most psychotic way to blow it. Like there's no possible way. I have, I have played this whole this poorly and made a triple when all I needed was a, like I would do that so often. I would bogey like the last five holes to shoot exactly 80. Just impossible, so you feel the blood is rushed from your face to like, how did I just do that? It's how I felt in that moment watching that for him. Yeah, 100%. I don't think the guys ever want a pro event. Like anyway, it's been like eight or nine years, right? I mean, it's 30. Yeah, he's just kind of just been a middleing, you know, pro out there, which like is, you know, in 2024, he had a, he had a T4 with the magical, can you open? I mean, like, that's the kind of finishes we're talking about here. When this is truly like, this is like their version of the players. Yeah, it is such a context builder, though, right? I mean, it's like next time he's next time he's in contention, I'm going to, I'm going to feel something. I promise you that. I'll really root for it. Please ship it next time. Can I say, speaking of rooting for, for guys, I want to throw this one at you guys. I was thinking about it, watching Aaron Rye. And I was, I think he's in very, very exclusive company for me, which is somebody that I genuinely, I do root for. He seems like truly the, the most lovely guy in professional golf. Great story. Seems like a great family. Like couldn't, couldn't be more in on, on Aaron Rye, the, the result. Absolutely hate watching and play golf. I hate everything about it. I hate the way he plays golf. I hate his swing. I hate his pre shot. I hate, I hate all of it. And I was just curious if I was trying to, I went through the top like 300 guys in the world. I'm like, are there anybody else like that that I just, I root for, but I just really despise watching. I don't know if you guys had any top of mind. I don't feel nearly as strong as you apparently feel. And I'm going to say it and you're going to be like, what is it? No, that's why I do the exercise. Oh, it's like a great guy. Well, liked obviously has been through a lot, like putting all that aside. I think I root for the guy. Like I want him to succeed. I used to be a kind of one of like my favorite players way back in the day. Kerry Woodland. I just don't, I just don't like the, I just don't like it. I can't explain why, but I have no, I know El Will towards him. I don't want him to not succeed at all. I just don't like, yeah, I just don't like the style of the walk that I just, it's not my, not, not appealing to me. It's low energy. Sure. I think that's fair. Yeah. A couple of nominees. I had Benjamin Booms. I was, I don't love, don't love everything. He's got going on, but man, he just seems like a wonderful guy. And I have enjoyed kind of his, his, his good past couple of years. Our good friend Justin Lauer, not my favorite golf swing in the world. Just who, you know, not going to find anybody who roots harder for Justin Lauer, but doesn't, doesn't look great. Oxey, you know, the putting thing is, it's not fun to watch, but I do, I do want him to win, but I don't, I don't love the putting. I don't love the, you know, there's just some things that I'm, I'm not totally in there. I'll tell you who, who's getting there for me. I mean, I root for him, like above virtually anyone else is speed. The tip well, like just the macro. A lot about that. I thought about the, sorry, the micro, like the specifics of, of watching him get set up and everything. Like I'm not, not loving what I'm seeing. Like I like watching the, yeah, living, agentry of it all, living and dying with every bounce when you're like T53 as well. It's just, it's not the same like exhilaration that it was, you know, when, when he was winning shit. Yeah, all right. Right. Rise, rise the perfect guy for that too, where it's very much, yeah, like this guy's not, I don't think this is good for golf. I just, I wanted, I like, I really wanted to win the tournament today that he just lays up on 18 and just, just doesn't push his chips in. And I'm like, dude, come on, man, what are we doing at 15 under two? Everybody behind Jews got the two part fives to play. Like, what are we doing? You got to ship that man. I, you know, you try to put go into their head of like, what, what could be the reason why tweener could be out of the rough, couldn't cut it enough would be the reasons why, but it's still like, I think it is hard to really, the math equations, smart, like, you know, don't say the guy's name, smart, play here, to play the averages might be to lay it up there. If you'd want to avoid making a bogey, sure, but like, we're going to root for people that are going for the win. Yeah, I'm 72nd old. It's just that simple. And especially when like, yeah, easy comp, but then Foxy just steps up at just, I mean, just rips one to the 15 feet or whatever. It's just, yeah, like that's it. If you wouldn't, if you want to hit the water, it seeds off the tee on both those. Sure. Sure. So true. Anyways, should probably circle back on JJ Spawn, one of the BMW PGA presence. Car of the last five. Yeah, it was very, it made easy work of 18 hitting the green two and almost, almost made his eagle putt as well, just about a revolution short. What an outrageous pin on 18. - It's apparently on the green. - I was showing like the wide shot. I kept like just screaming to Justin. I'm like, look at where that flag is. It's like that's barely even golf. It's awesome. - I think Rory had a pulley or had a wasabi and he was off the green. He was like kind of back stopping. 'Cause Adam Scott was in the bunker. And obviously Rory couldn't mark it 'cause it was off the green. It had to be like a seven footer from off the green. I don't know. - I don't know. - It was just a sick shot in there. - I'm gonna look up the actual distance 'cause. But yeah, JJ had some comments afterward. Said, you know, and I'm paraphrasing here that it's Ned told him he was the odd man out. Said you can quote me on that. Said it was a very short phone call, 45 second phone call. And he said he was led to believe that he was gonna be picked for the team, which I think was consistent with some things you had heard as well, TC, before this victory. So a little bit of an FU, a little bit of a, you know, I don't know. It's right or cups different than the president's cup. I just don't think it's gonna end up mattering. I could of course be wrong on that. But you know, a little bit, he gets his mom and gets his FU moment. And you know, it could be some egg on Steadaker's face in a way if you choose to look at that way, I think. - Yeah, I think a couple, I guess, points of context. If you're both positive and negative. I mean, he withdrew from the tour championship with the shoulder injury, wasn't playing great golf in the couple of weeks leading up to that. Who knows how much of that was kind of the question mark. I mean, he was asked about it and kind of said, you know, I think at the time, like, hey, I think I just need a day or two and I'm gonna be good. Don't know if that was enough uncertainty to kind of be a stay away. Don't know if the recent poor play was enough to be, you know, a stay away. He was, I did have to go back and like, kind of forgot. He was one of the American bright spots at the Ryder Cup on the flip side of it. You know, I don't think it's like a, this guy doesn't have any experience. This guy can show up in the moment type of thing as he did, he did play pretty good at Beth Page. So I don't know, it just feels like kind of a coin flip to me. But yeah, it certainly makes it, makes it a little more interesting for him to go out and do it today and good for him, man. You know, it clearly is not on the same page as Snetaker. So it's not a, the breakup is mutual type situation. It's not how I took it. - Yeah, I think it's tough for us. Like, we're constantly banging the table for new blood. - Yeah. - And then when the 36 year old guy that, you know, has had a decent season, not a great season, gets left off, you can't then point back at Snetaker and say, you know, like, this is a travesty. Look at his game, I mean, his stats and everything. Like he's, like the pudding has definitely been, been the issue this year, which is crazy after having watched it at Oakmont and last year at various places and like he put it as bought off. Largely, I gained a ton of respect for him today. Like even more so than, like I feel like I learned more about JJ's spawn today than I did even at the US Open. It was just like just having, like, you know, coming off of, of towards championship and all of that and the snub and then just making it a point to go over there and his season on a really positive note and kind of bookend it and say, you know what? Like I, regardless of me making the tournament or the the pickup or not, I close this out on my terms. I really, really appreciated that. And by all accounts, he's, you know, he's very welcome over there. Like, you know, Sally, I know you always love the British press and all of all of our friends over there and by all accounts, everybody's like, dude, he's just, he's like, he's good to people over there, he's delightful. So listen, I appreciate that. I'm like Brian the butcher. Exactly, exactly. Did you read the anecdote about his wife who wanted to get a place over there? They basically like, they've got really obsessed with certain like British TV shows, I think. And his wife was talking about like if you win a tournament, like you need to buy me a cottage in the cotswolds because they like, they love the cotswolds. And he was like, that's how, he's like, that's outrageous. Like that's not proportionate to winning a tournament. Like I'm not doing that. She's like, okay, well, if you win a major, you got to buy me a cottage in the cotswolds and then he won the US Open. And now he's like, yes, so we're still like a negotiation. She said to me, Zillow likes all the time. Like he, like clearly that they love it over there. And he had a lot of great comments about, you know, wanting to be more of a worldwide player and experience more golf outside of America. And it was, yeah, I'm with you TC. It was great, a great day for JJ Spawn and burgeoning JJ Spawn fans like us. - Well, just a great day for like golf generally, right? Like, you know, JJ Spawn, Aaron Rye, Adam Scott, Rory, Uncle Yost, you know, Foxy. Like that's, that's worldwide golf right there. You know, Johnny Rambo, pretty far down the leaderboard. I was waiting for other nationality there too. Well, it's basically everything that we're begging for for these, for these American guys. It's like, hey, you have a little bit like just a shred of a responsibility to go support the game worldwide, especially after you won a major in the last, you know, one, two, three years. And so it's refreshing to hear that from him. - Tough, tough for when you got a home president's cup. Tough ask this year for anyone that's on the president's cup. - Yeah, I'm not saying these guys need to go over and play. - They should. - Or the president's cup, but there's no reason. - If you have a strategic alliance, there should be a lot of, figure out a, you know, a better spot on the calendar. Like, I've loved the Scottish Open, how that has worked as a co-sanctioned event. I know it's not quite this, they're some people that might shudder at the idea of making this co-sanction just because so many less DP world tour players would be able to get in and we wouldn't have the manual. Ivera's kind of story there, but I just would like to see more of the top US players be incentivized to play in this when it's a one off and it's not going towards FedEx cup or whatever the future of that is. It's unlikely, it's a tough for ask and what's why we don't see as many players go, but it's only I think a nine million euro purse. I believe like it just, it's a hard, it's a harder ask when you're playing for 20 million in your own backyard. But I would like to see more guys playing it for sure. - Any thoughts to just how things might change, how in kind of when we get to 28, 29, we start getting into a little bit of a revamped season. I mean, it seems like more time in the fall to carve out space for this. But again, it's like you still need to incentivize guys to go do it. I don't know if either of you had any thoughts on how we might pour a little more gas on this event. - It kind of, like I guess this event's been in May before this event's been kind of jumped around. I feel like this is the first time of the year where it feels like the DP World Tour schedule has momentum and they just announced their schedule for 27, which I can't believe we're doing this again. I mean, I know this has been announced for a while, but like we're doing the Ned bank in Australian open, like doing two, we're doing Africa's major in the Australian open at Kingston Heath during the same fucking week again guys. Like I think that one could probably be avoided at some point, especially when you have two TBDs on the calendar as it stands right now. I don't see the hero Indian open on there either. - Correct. - Which maybe that's a precursor to, you know, hey, that's either one of those TBDs or they're gonna move that more to the fall. I've got that DP World India Championship. And then it's probably goes into some of this stuff just about the, you know, the Dubai and Abu Dhabi and what the remainder of the schedule looks like even for this year with the race to Dubai. - Yeah, and Matt Fitzpatrick had some comments on that. Also, I have note, I mean, really strong finish for Matt Fitzpatrick as well. This week finished inside the top 10. We have talked a lot about Matt this year, three wins, probably the best season was career. And Arcos has been a huge part of how he and Eduardo Molinari analyze his game and build his strategy. Watching these guys play a place like Wentworth, especially when the conditions get challenging is a good reminder of how much goes into figuring out what shot you actually need to hit. Wind, temperature, elevation, slope, all of it changes how far that golf ball's actually gonna travel. That's why we love the Arcos Smart Laser. 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I might see if I can get my AI strategy to hack solid AI strategy and just start really getting some agents in there and just really messing with his, messing with his data. I think that might be by only way. I'm going to beat you. I'll tell you how to nice, nice round on Friday. And I like three or four times in the round. I just was like, is there wind up there? Should it be this direction? Just check my phone super quick. Just to tell me what club it was recommending. And I was like, all right, I'm going to go with that. And it was super helpful. It was insanely helpful. I get it. I'm just so impressed with it. So two Matt Fitzpatrick's comments, he said, as it stands right now, I would say that I'm not comfortable. No, I would not be that comfortable. It's obviously frustrating that the decision has been made so you can plan on what's going on. But I understand there's obviously a lot of moving parts to that. It's obviously difficult to make these decisions. I think if the DP World Tour does go, I'm sure that they've had the best advice possible and what that looks like as things stand right now. I wouldn't necessarily be too keen on going. He's of course talking to final two events of the season, which are the Abu Dhabi Championship at Yoss links from November 5th to 8th, as well as the Jermaya Gulf of States is set to host the finale on the Earth course, November 12th through 15th. Welcome to Earth. Some examples. Formula One moved its ball rain ground pre to Malaysia. It called off the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. And you know, as I cited those as additional reasons for the DP World Tour to explore alternate alternative host locations. So could be a kind of inauspicious ending to the DP World Tour season with what's going on currently in the Middle East. I got to admit, I have not put, I didn't put a lot of thought of that until it was commented on in recent weeks. Let's just shut it down, man. Give it to P. Can you just point to the rest of it? I tell you under points. I had a head of Rory right now. He withdrew this week with a wrist injury. He didn't see that. It took me a while to decode your tweet about may he get healthy and may he get to do by first was what the fuck are you talking? Oh, race to Dubai. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I agree. The schedule just kind of DP World Tour while I was trying to answer your question. Deeds like reading the tea leaves. It looks like they've moved the the the French open leads into the Ryder Cup next year. So they've got the Ryder Cup in the 17th to 19th September at a Dare Manor and then they've got the BMW PGA the week after that as well, which typically BMW PGA would be before that. And then the Dunhill links would be after the Ryder Cup. Hey, Scotty, I know you just got beat historically bad at the Ryder Cup. How about hanging her out for another week? Yeah, what do you think? You're already here. Yeah, you're already here. Come through. And then they moved the they moved the Irish open, which is the K club. Unfortunately, they moved that up to the first week in July ahead of the Scottish ahead of the Scottish. Tell it used to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then which is funny because that's the that's the closing swing. And then the closing swing then leads into the back nine, which feels kind of strange. But the Singapore opens coming back. I think the back to back bar five. Yeah. It's the real back those last two. That's that's love actually the back nine for the rest is the closing swing. I mean, do we think the DP World Tour finishes this season? Like, is that that's where I feel like this. There's not been a big of a topic of conversation is maybe it should be. I mean, that's impossible to predict at this moment, but yeah, I have. I would I don't know how you reiterate impossible to predict. I just talked about it. One worth again. Run it back. God, sign me up for that. It's interesting. Great. Make it a two week tournament. Make it, you know, a, you know, a hundred and what is a 144 hole tournament? Yeah. I like that too. Mega the mega conclusion. The Rambo situation. I'll get out in front of this guy. So, probably didn't want to talk about it, but I think we should. It's not good. It's not good. You know, I early after, you know, seeing this DFL through 36, I was like, you know what? Maybe it's time to put his dude status under review. And I put some time thinking into it and we will not be doing that tonight. He is still he is still a dude. I am going to need to expand this sample size. If we get to the end of next year and it looks anything similar to this past year, it will be so will most certainly be. He's got a wedge in his hand. This is the time to have a crack. And he's just not that type of player. He just won't do it. I just I can't imagine like coming around next spring and like being like proud and excited and feeling like it was a good decision to have sold by John Romstock. I just don't it's as low as like when I'm not doing that. I'm just not doing that. He's still an incredible golfer. I think the live thing going away, potentially, you know, could be could be what he needs to come back and just be people's asses on the DP world tour next year. So, Sally, you are right. He is a dude. He's a dude who got beat handily by Richard Sturney. Of course. 45 year old president president. Be careful, TC. Victor Perez for, you know, once and former clique, Victor Perez, possibly still a clique. I'm seeing a guy. Ockie Street him. Stride him. TC. He beat Ram's ass. Get in. Get in while you can't. That's totally fine. Just don't call me Ray Bradberry. Ashman sell. Yeah. These guys beat your guys ass, Sally. It's not good. It's not good. You know, and listen, other guys are rising up in spite of the live stuff. You know, Waco played well this week. He was wearing his Torque stuff still, but he played well till Sunday, right? Yeah, just completely non-factor, serious. Where have we seen this one before? To clarify, he's my boy just because I think he's a good at golf. Like, Ram, his stock is like a likable person and person I'm rooting for is gone to zero. Like that, that's not what we're saying here. Just to. You could maybe throw Ram on the list before this whole thing of guys that I really like, I respect his career, but I don't necessarily enjoy watching it. Yeah. I don't like seeing him come out of the bullfed. But what? But did you feel that way prior to this heel turn? Because I feel like we spent the spring of 2023 being like, all right, this dude is you never even hear him talk about his swing. Like, he just, he was, we called him the booey because he showed up every single fucking week. He did great interviews. Everyone, a lot of people did. He did great interviews, had great insight. It was an extremely thoughtful person like that. This didn't start with it, you know, obviously had the temper, but it was kind of endearing because there was a lot to like about him, which is what made the heel turn so surprising, I think. I think his swing's got holding on to that little. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think they're part and parcel, but it's happened. You know, over the last 24 to 36 months, really since he won the Masters, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. John Rom right now, I'm going to pull up his data golf ranking. His eight, he's 18th in the data golf rankings. Where are we going fast? Will he be at the end of next season? Let's put this on the record. I'll go the opposite here. I'll say he'll be better than 18th. Yeah. I think so too. I think that's fair. He's got too much pride for. I say he's you're saying at September 20th, 2027. Yeah. Yeah. So right after the rider cut of next year, I will say he's a cup. I'll say I'll say he's third. I'll triple down on this. I think he's okay. So everybody's buying on some level. Yeah. Well, that's not that's not fun. No, that's exactly what we did that. I had to put your guys feet to the fire here. Like is it a sinking ship? It's not good, solid. No, it's definitely not good. I just said he would be better than 18th. I didn't say you would be even a top 10 player. Sure. I think that would be the Mendoza one for for dude status, right? I would. I mean, no, I think if you're going to spend multiple years outside the top five, I think your dude status is going to be out. That's my point is he just did it for too long of a period for me to think this is anything other than a uplift on the rider. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see too many too many exemptions to these to these these exemptions are lasted way too long. I'm just glad that Luke LV and Sali are on the right. Exactly. 100% and PCA. Yeah, that does hurt. PCA came through today. The age came through today. Would it even head over off your catcher or something? No, I was hoping he would. I was hoping he would. Travini, I think, is shut down for the year. He's been like 15 times this year. I'm going to be on rates and barrels tomorrow to put a to put a type bow in the Cincinnati Red season. I'm very much looking forward to that. That's great. At the build more, the first ever built more. Niel Shipley took a one shot lead into the final round over Ben Cole's Ricky Kus- Delio came out on fire played his first six holes in five under he took the lead early but could not keep pace. A lot of low scores coming in. JT Post and had a putt for 59 it missed. He shot 60. Ben James got in with a 61 to post 24 under, but Jacob Richmond just behind him wrapped up a 61 of his own to shoot 26 under par and lock up his second win of the season. Not as much egg on Brandt's net acres face when your guy wins, you know, in one of the few presence cup guys that's actually playing this week takes care of business there. I think gives it a little more solid foot coming into this week as well as as well as Quayvin finishing the top five as well. It was what I was going to say about the spawn thing is like, yeah, it's one thing if Bridgman and Quayvin both like Mr. Cut or something, but it's yeah again kind of a coin flip. But Bridgman, I think you love to see it. I love to see it. I feel like I said a lot of a lot of big words after that Rive win as this guy is just like an all around fill up the cup type of guy. His floor has still been pretty high. We haven't really seen the peak weeks. He had a little little spurt mid season where the putter kind of cooled off and he kind of became a little bit of a forgotten man, but he's been playing really good golf. Obviously, I'll click today. I hate when I don't hate the right word when when like somebody becomes really known for one thing and they just every time they show him, oh, this guy's the best partner. Oh, look at this guy. Oh, you know, he's going to make this one. It's kind of like brand vinegar was. It was. But man, he does fill it up. It is it is like every time that you go up like damn, he that does look good coming off the putter. And I don't know. I just I know he's not the most exciting guy in the world. I know he's not the flashy guy in the world, but tons of respect for somebody who came up, you know, kind of came up early. I think we can maybe talk more about this when we get to the championship challenger track a sort of conversation, but playing his way into all of those elevated signature events and then kind of figuring out your career there is just a I have a ton of respect for people that that can do that man. That's that's a really, really hard thing to do to be young and be playing really, really high level golf in big ass events. I know this is not a big ass event, but he has done that all year. And I just think it's very validating to see him get another dub. I think he's just an all around good ass player. And it made me even more pumped about the presence cup. So here here shout out to Jacob Richmond, Scott, top putters in the world of the last year, Scott Vincent, Sam Burns, Alex Noren, Jacob Bridgman, Mad Meneli, Scottie Sheffler. That's just fucking sick. That's your top putters in the world last year. So many birdies. And he said he was what first or second on tour in par four scoring. I think he sees well. So yeah. And then he's got like you made 28 birdies this week. I think the other thing is like I was pleased to see you say it's not a big event. It's not. It's a first year event. But the guys from the Carolinas showed up and you could tell they tried to like he's from not that far from Asheville, right? He's from the Greenville area. And you know, like that's a big time. I'm sure he had a lot of friends and family in the area and all that. Same thing with JT Poston who shot 60 today and finished T five. You know, I think that's a it's cool for those guys to get to show up and support, you know, a region and area that a lot of those guys spend a lot of time in like I know a lot of those C Island guys have homes up in the North Carolina mountains now. And yeah, so good stuff on that front. And then, you know, just just I don't know, like I think it's it's a there's really not a lot of PGA tour golf this September. It's you know, like it seems like normally we get off to a pretty steady start in the fall. And this this fall seems like it's this was the first fall event. And it doesn't seem like we're going to have anything else coming because of the president's cup for for another couple weeks. So it's you know, it's kind of like the one the one chance at some PGA tour golf here. Yeah, it was a fun kind of as fun of a board as it could have been. I mean, Shipley going for one, a lot of names of some some kind of fringe dudes Castillo or you know, are we going to see you break through Ben James who just is second second straight 61 on a Sunday. He can become the hottest player in the world so quickly. Like he might be the hottest player in the world. Like at multiple times during any course of a week. I don't even know if he's a microwave man. He might be a air fryer or something. So you could, yeah, carefully. It's going to be quick. Get you those chicken nuggets quick here, Charlie. Look alive. The blue torch. He's just a boy. He's a ball hitter, man. Yeah, he is a ball hitter. It's he was first of Schroes gain T degree in this week's second and approach and and fills it up at the putter as well. Like are we like are we talking about this guy for the rider cup this time next year? I mean, I feel like we maybe have not given this guy the run that we probably maybe should have coming out of PGA tour you and the success he's had again. It hasn't been like the most amazing finishes because he seems to have one bad round, even in some of his best weeks. But I don't know, man, it's it's hard to see. I don't see a lot of other like Americans coming up with, I mean, Koivan aside, a little while since we've had somebody kind of reach a a jet stream of potential, like he's hitting hitting the noss on very quickly. He is maybe he didn't have quite enough stats to qualify for that Aaron Rye conversation earlier because it's not exactly like aesthetically beautiful. But I do root for him. I like spent a time with him at the Walker Cup at St. Andrews, getting to know him a tiny bit. He was famously in our in our film about the Walker Cup. He was the guy that would not eat Caesar salad solid birds with you there. But yeah, it's I don't it's got to be the iron play. I guess just like looking at the stats, it seems like he is when it's clicking, man, he yeah, he looks like he might be the best player in the world. And what it's not, it gets bad like pretty quickly. So I don't know, I think that's kind of part of just being a young pro, I guess, is like trying to harness that and just raise the floor and figure out how to play PGA tour golf courses. But man, it is looked it's looked crazy impressive in in spurts. It's just it's kind of electric when it's you get a guy like that, you know, it's like I don't feel that way about. Koivan just feels like he's he kind of cruises like his his floors pretty high is pretty steady. He's like kind of built to be just like week to week pro golfer. Ben James seems like he's pushing his chips in every week, you know, quite no one had this coming back, which is which is kind of fun in itself. Yeah, he's he seems like he's just punish his par-fives. He's birdier better on 65% of his par-fives this year, which seems decent. I don't know what he's for ever just, but I don't even think I need to, I think that's pretty good. I seem like a long iron manness. I hope the 17th hole from this week doesn't count in that that hole pissed me off this week. That's that was such a joke. That was a Nicholas special. Oh, I was just a completely out of play bunker on the right guys just bombing it down there and hitting like short irons in was just I don't know if we can call out a par-five PGA tour of lifting the place for the week started. Multiple threats of breaking 60 out of the Sunday. I just I got feel like yeah, so we got to do something guys. We got to do something. Well, yeah, Ben James, like, he's to your point. He had the T4 at the Punta Kana, but then if he doesn't kind of gas it there on Sunday in Detroit, you're looking at four top five finishes in, like, you know, T4, a third at Wyndham, a second this week, like he's he's he's he's he's knocking on the door and he'll probably win this fall. This continues. Yeah. Yeah, I'm also I'm fascinated. I mean, who knows, like, obviously, very, very high pedigree in his played, played real, real golf tournaments, but it's like, I'll be curious what happens if he places way into, you know, kind of that that challenger track, like what happens at Riviera? What happens at Sawgrass? What happens at someone's track? Sorry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's what I mean, if he starts playing some of the like, premier golf courses, I'll be I'll be curious to see what what happens with that game where he can actually like separate based on a coach boy or he can get separated out is is what I'm saying, like, it seems like my man might just be firing at every every pin, but who knows? I'm I'm buying, dude, I he just think his ceiling's very high. And I don't I don't feel like I say that about a lot of guys come and fresh out of school. And it's easy to get gun shy on that with what we saw from Dunlap and Sargent in terms of some of the some of the top players, but he just seems a lot, a lot more complete. He just he looks like a little child. He needs a beard. I think he should grow a beard. I've been a I don't know. I think that would make him look a little bit less like, you know, kind of somebody who's out of water. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he's he's a good enough iron, like he's a great iron player, a really good long iron player. And that's why I feel like I respect him more than just a, you know, an algebraic pocket or ball speed and posture type. Totally. I think that's totally fair. And it looks like, I mean, for his electric is in up and down as this game is, he just looks like his his heart rate is just staying completely steady. Not he seems pretty unfazed by by anything that happens right in front of him. Eagle or double right in front of him. He just gets right back up and goes. But yeah. It does remind me that the no-ling-up podcast is brought to you by WOOP TC. So that one coming, the wearable design for lasting progress, WOOP combines 24/7 health insights with personalized coaching to help you improve how you sleep, train, and feel, starting day one, wearing your WOOP daily improves your health. It gives you key metrics like sleep, recovery, strain, and health span. And WOOP gives you continuous coaching and feedback. So you see, I don't know about you. Europe did a number on me. 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Oh, gosh. I don't even know if they'd do this, but. Yeah, I don't even know what it would be, like plus. It'd be like four and a half. I think it would be like where I started. Four neighborhood. Yeah, I think I'd need full five, though. And they would have to give me the ability to sub some guys in. So you got to change your team. TZ, there's no snubs. There's no snubs on the internationals. Let's go around. There's just not. There's no snubs. There was nobody to snub. Exactly. Even hits out. Sune, like he didn't play well. Maybe they were working on stuff, though. My guy Taylor Tendrith missed the cut. So, you know, bad is missed the cut. Just not a lot of good vibes rolling in. Yeah, well, they're trying to get there early, maybe. Yeah, that's true. Plenty of time to break that down this week. We'll have a full preview of the presence cup coming out on Tuesday. But not a great vibe going into the actual competition part of it. I'm looking forward to the presence cup, but, uh, yeah, we'll we'll see what happens in that one. The, uh, pot you guys did with my cocking highest recommendation. Loved it. Loved it, loved it. Yeah, great. If you hadn't, uh, listen to that one. Go listen to that before we get into the presence cup talk. That was excellent. I would agree with that because, uh, he was awesome talking about a very different, uh, different golf course we're going to see. Any other names you want? We could have talked to cocking for five hours. Yeah, we're just scratching the surface. It's so sick. Any other performances you want to shout out, T.C. or, uh, should we get down to some of the news of the week? Um, toasty. Yeah, yeah, toasty. We probably got it. That was a performance certainly. That's true. If you missed it on Thursday, his caddy, um, on the 18th hole of the, of the, of the, on the golf course, the ninth hole of their tournament, uh, just put the bag down in the fairway and walked off, removed the bib, walked off. Uh, that was the, uh, caddy cliff Ellis. Just straight up quit on him when reached, this is from Adam shoe pack. When reached by text after the round, toasty joke that Ellis quote couldn't keep up with eight parts in a row, uh, with a bunch of laughing emojis on that. He pulled a gentleman by the name of Patrick Toledo. Toledo out of the crowd, uh, also brought this guy back on Friday. And I have received word, uh, that he. Toasty did not pay him for this. Didn't offer him an audit. Didn't do anything. I didn't do a thing. Didn't do anything for the guy that, that he brought back out. But man, allegedly, according to the guy, according to guys, buddy. Yes, that is what has been the, the end of two can. Yeah, the worst I heard this was a worse situation than out two can. Don't know if I grew that. What toasty's offered his fair. Uh, how bad do you have to be to just get the, have your caddy walk off in the middle of the first round of the tournament, man? I, I can't imagine, yeah, that doesn't seem like a luck situation. That seems like, uh, Toasty probably, I, I think he, he made his bed, especially. I don't know how you can miss. It's true. What's going on there? We did get a lot of news earlier this week. PGA tour released their eligibility. Uh, you're not going to start with the team. You're up, go to a dare banner and make it a whole performance out of it. That's got to be the biggest, that's got to be the biggest news in the week. That was sick. I love, oh, I loved everything about it. They've brought Jean, Jean Chicara exactly. I don't have any energy for it. This is where the bonds are forged, man. It's just, it's great. At the down in that, down in that whiskey library. Yeah. They're probably sitting around the fire pit, share their biggest fears. It's good stuff. It's just where I think they might have ruined the rider cup. Because yeah, I should be fired up and I should, I feel something. But like, you win it every year. You're going to win the home one. It's just kind of like, what am I, how am I going to get worked up about that year in advance? That's always going to try to downplay the Americans so much. The point that they're massive, massive underdogs. And then when they eventually win one of these things, he's going to be. He's doing the same thing with fantasy baseball this week. He's already tried to concede like three days ago. He's like, oh, yeah, clearly, I'm going to lose. Oh, yeah, congratulations. And now, of course, he's coming back. He's going to win. He should have to concede the whole. Once you, once you say my ball has lost your whole parts. Exactly. Like, you should be, you should be out. So you guys are bad, bad guys. T.C.'s, T.C.'s mad at me for downplaying the US. He gets mad at me when I'm overhyping the US. I feel like we got to, we got to make a decision on that. I also just remember that toast. He's a pilot. Oh, I want to bring that up. I know. I hate that. It's one of the things that makes me most nervous about being able to be a pilot. Yeah, that should not be allowed. If you're caddy quits on you, you should not be allowed to be a pilot. I don't know who we need to talk to with the FAA about that. But T.C.'s, it seems like you must know somebody. We got, we got AI being installed this week up in DC for like the FAA, for the controllers. The championship track eligibility was announced. I'm going to kind of go through some of this. We'll, we'll react to it here after that. But retained players on the championship track are going to be the top 90 players from the, from the previous seasons championship series. Before I go through all these, there's also, there's some, I'm not going to break down all of the, there's a separate set of standards for 2028 for that opening season. I'm kind of going to go through how this is going to work from season to season after that. We should see if we can unload some of those retain in the USA. To those night, those 90 guys that keep going. Let's see if Neo can, let's see if Neo can sell some of those shirts to those guys. Top 90 players from the previous championship season retain status the next year on championship series. Promoted players, the top 20 are promoted from the Challenger series. Any players who win twice during the PJ Torch Challenger series get automatic promotion the championship track winners of PJ Torch Championship series events. This includes the players includes the majors. You receive PJ Torch Championship series membership for the current one and the following two seasons. Similar to how it works currently, you win an event, you get the remainder of the year, of course, and the following two seasons that is also going to remain intact for the new eligibility and championship series. What's your, what's your, what's your reaction to that criteria? I'm kind of split. I mean, I feel like it's part and parcel with the points changes that they've made, right? Where they're, they're devaluing the importance of a win from a points perspective to, like in order to try to incentivize these guys to show up more often and have to play. So the, you know, we can run through the points table or the, the distribution, but the, you know, the value of a win is much, much more similar to, you know, that of like, it's just not like magnitude. Yeah. Yeah. It's moved out a lot more. Yeah. More important. So I think it's one of those things that if they've done that, then all right. Your win probably needs to count for something more in the long run then. And I do think that guys that win should be rewarded. So I'm a little bit torn on that front where, you know, but then again, it like it feels like, all right, you should have to eat what you kill every year as well. Which is like, I'm not thrilled about it, but I see, you know, like it could be something that they changed here in the future as well. I wonder why two years and I know it is two years now, obviously, but I wonder why two years instead of a year because I, everything you just said makes sense to me on, on wanting to reward. Winds a little bit more, but also everything that they've said has been meritocracy and eat what you kill. And we got to get, we got to turn these guys through. And it's got a, nothing's guaranteed. And we're all starting back at zero. And it just feels like they're speaking out of both sides of their mouth a little bit with, with the two years just seems like a lot, I guess, is my, my second. Well, two years and then getting two years on top of that on the challenger. Yeah, right. Like you're getting four years of free ride off of one win. That's, that's substantial. But here's what I would say to that, DJ's like, it's, it is a meritocracy. And that you got to win to do it, right? It's not, this isn't like a, a sponsor exemption of extra status. Yeah, like you went on the championship track. And again, where I think people are understandably a little confused and not quite viewing, we haven't seen this yet. One, but like, this is different than signature events. Like this is a reimagining of the PGA tour, essentially, right? And going from this 50 top 50 number, this has been extremely important for PGA tour players now to like top 130, basically, 98 are staying is like this is not, it's just to include a lot more guys. Like it is, it's the entirety of the PGA tour. And it is, if you are good enough to win one of these events with all of these players, I think having a little extra incentive on top of that, I think, is not, it's not like you're bypassed into the playoffs or bypassed into, uh, you know, into the match play of the next year's, you know, season finale or something like that, you're just getting to play in those tournaments. And there's going to be guys that struggle in those tournaments, you know, for an extended period of time that nothing might happen. But I don't, I just don't have a problem with this. I think it, um, it's, it's, it is a dramatic change in how things are done. But like it's still in part, just a better reorganization of the PGA tours, what we're about to get and everyone kind of playing the same events, rather than just the pick and choose part. That's why like having some things that are consistent still make sense. This is not the 300 cut, you know, uh, exemption. And we can get to some of the other ones. I just don't have a problem for wins if you get, you know, an extra urge about it. And it's rarely applied to like guys usually, you know, are, are rarely finishing way outside the top 90, the next year, um, after winning a tournament on tour. The one thing that boss Matt a little bit is it does take away from some of the, the relegation, right? Like if, you know, the relegate, like I, I want that guillotine at the top of everybody's, like, I want guys playing living in fear a little bit. I like that. Well, and I, I wish they, I understand why it's hard to do this now because we haven't really proven it out yet. But I, I do wish that they would trust that the challenger events only get better when recognizable names get into them, right? I mean, that's, that's kind of the thing. I mean, I'm, I'm just trying to think like to your point, Salihon, who's finished way, way outside, but still kind of fallen back on their, their exemption. And I don't know, I'm trying to think of like a, a good example. But it's, I got one, you're not going to like it max. No, that's what I was going to say. But wasn't he, he was inside the top 90 this year, though. I mean, he was, I think he was outside the top 100. I think he was like 105, if I remember right. Yeah, but it's close enough, like I think we're, we're, that's an example of this applying. Yes. It is. And I guess my point would be that like it would be compelling as hell to watch Max try to fight back in Minnesota or the Quad cities or whatever to try to get, get his card back. So I, I, yeah, I don't know. I guess that's, that's my, my final, uh, my final sticking point is like I would go to one year instead of two years. I get why they're rewarding it, but it seems like they're rewarding. I think at the end of the day with this and with a few other things. All apps got in the benefit of the doubt for me so far. He's earning the benefit of the doubt and like, it's just like shoe pack tweeted something this week. He said during a conference call this morning, roll up confirmed that he's asked tournament sponsors for their best offer by the end of the month to be considered for the final four championship series events, previously said at the tour championship that 14 sponsors have expressed interest. That doesn't fill me with a ton of confidence that this is like, hey, we're going to pick the, the best events, it sounds like it's just going to the highest bidder, which is kind of a bummer. Could be a tactic in there. Yeah. I'm sure some of it's a tactic and some of it's like, all right, we're probably going to pick waste management if being so open because that's a highly marketable event. And, you know, we know that that's a good spot on the calendar for us. But I just get well a little bit worried that some of this stuff's going to get water down as we go along here. Sorry, clarifying point. I was referring to 2025 max home and not 2026 max home over. He was outside the top 100 is what I, I don't think I said that out loud, but yeah, I think that could be a little bit of a, you know, you know, play in the media, play in the, let's get the buzz up here of, I think it's submit your best offer on it. More than it is that going completely to the highest bidder, I could be wrong. Of course, but I agree. It didn't fill me. It doesn't fill me with warm and fuzzies about about a lot of these events, which is still to be proven. If these are going to be good events, I think is, you know, a lot of the ones are on there or one to expect. And I think there's no reason to think that they wouldn't continue to be good events. But it's not a, I'm not a bit of the, you know, I guess I'm, I have some scar tissue from the Cadillac this past year of like, dude, you cannot just stand one day up and tell me this is a great event and people will vibe with it because there's a lot that goes into making a great event. And a lot of us do with history and familiarity. So I'm totally okay. And I think on that note too, like Rory said this week as well, I'm just reading through Shaq's newsletter tonight and Rory said like a lot of the deep, you know, maybe this is hot air from him or, but it sounds like this is backed up by sentiment from his peers on a DP World Tour of, you know, guys aren't necessarily thinking that the pathway from going the, from the DP World Tour to the Challenger series is necessarily a big step up, right? So it's, you know, hey, let's let's, let's support our own tour back home and then if we make the champion chip series, yeah, maybe, maybe you make the leap at that point, which makes a lot of sense to me, right? Is like if you're, if you're trying to make the, the championship track, they're not going to use this word. But if you're kind of trying to make that the quote unquote world tour, meaning just like the A1, this is the premier tour in the world, then you need like, those feeders need to be at different levels. Like I, I understand like the Challenger and the DP World Tour feeding up to the, I get all twisted up by the names, but I understand those two being much more lateral than like the Challenger being some weird middle ground hinterland between the DP World Tour and the, but from a strategic alliance perspective, the PGA tour is going to turn the screws as much as possible on the DP World Tour to almost serve as a feeder, probably. And to clarify that, that, that's part that's not announced yet is the DP World Tour aspect of, I think is the most interesting part, right? Like that. I think that makes, yeah, that's going to be the, the big details that make this thing go. Another good nugget here, medical exemptions will be granted on a limited basis for injury or conditions that materially prevent competition as determined by an outside review committee of independent medical experts. That will be me and T.C. reviewing, reviewing your file. We'll tell if you're hurt or injured, and if you, if you could go or if you just need to actually we're going to revoke your Challenger, you don't even have Challenger status anymore, I'm sorry. I think this is, I really like this one. Yeah. Yeah. Like this is very interesting because I do think there's a lot of, we saw it. I think I was reading something with Isaiah Solinda of, it's tough to discern sometimes whether someone is having, whether it's, you know, if it's mental health or anxiety or depression because you're playing bad or you're playing bad because of that, those two things are pretty tough to discern. And so I'll be very curious to see kind of what the, because it's a slippery slope, right? A lot of this, this, you know, like are you physically, materially hurt or are you just not in a great headspace and there's got to be a line there somewhere. I don't know where that line is, I don't, I don't envy the, the, the, the tour on that front. Well, and this is where, you know, it's a mess how it works now in terms of how, you know, when you're injured one year and it carries over to the next, you get a certain number of starts and you got to maintain a certain points pace and all of that, I wonder if that will be cleaner with this and how this will kind of work with this more cutthroat, you know, kind of black and white version of how the tour works, I, I'd be curious how that's going to work out. So just, I don't really want to think about it. That it makes my head hurt every, every time I think about the, the medical stuff and it just feels, feels weird because you can kind of gain the system a little bit on when you come back and, and it just, it, that part makes me pretty uncomfortable for like a system on it. I'm in support of how they're overhauling this and some things are going to slip to the crack and be tough challenges that I'm glad they have to figure that out. And I don't, I do feel like, I mean, I know this is boring, but the, the medical stuff, like I, I just feel like they get so many more right than they get wrong. Like I know there are fringe cases of, of people who have kind of stretched it or abused it or I can get my pension if I stay out of medical or like, what's the, what's the I know there are cases like that, but there are also cases where it's just like no, I need a back surgery and you can't just be like, sorry dude, you lose your card should hurt your back is like, you know, I just it's it's easy to focus on like the bad freeback is broken spinal but it's broken. It speaks to what makes golf different to like all of this, you know, the analogous to other sports don't really make sense when like, it just becomes like as simple as like to somebody want to sign you to their team or not like individual sports like all this eligibility is what makes golf unique and makes it a lot this part a lot more challenging. This one I'm not as convinced on as I am the winner one career milestone exemption players with exceptional PJ tour careers currently recognized through the career money list will be eligible to use a one time exemption on the PJ tour championship series in 2029 and beyond, you must hold championship series membership the prior year and the exemption must be used in the year immediately following the loss of championship series membership. So basically anybody that has made it to like Adam Scott category here, if he got membership in 2028 but didn't retain it, he could get an extra year and stay out on the PJ tour. So this sucks man, I'm good, I'm good on this. I don't know if you guys feel differently, but I would go back to the other side of the mouth that we're talking about. It's just like man, I thought this was kind of some of the stuff we're getting rid of. It like a how this difference from the difference for the win for me is like if you've won an event, I think like you have a two year, you're putting your you're putting more credit in the bank. You're just more credits because you won the video game, but like I won the video game 10 years ago, a great career and you've aged out of it is like, ah, okay, well now we're not talking about like a great competitor right now. This is this is just like social security and Medicare. This is straight up entitlement, like this stuff's hard man. You got to compromise. You got to these people have been promised something and you can't just take it all the way from you got to, you know, otherwise you got 50 Matt Cooters who are mad as hell. And I'm sure this is the quote this sucks that is that is my personal feeling about this. I think for some of the like how and why did this happen? There's got to be some of this that's just like, hey man, I didn't go to live. Like come on, dude. Yeah. I didn't go to live and you better help me out here. Where's this like meet me halfway? I imagine is some of that. I don't know. Um, you imagine like, like, uh, I don't know, like late career Frank or being like, hey man, I didn't go to the XFL. You know, three years ago again, I'll point you to this sucks, that's my personal feelings. But I, I'm just trying to wrap my head around kind of how we got there. I think it can suck. And I think it's also not that worth getting worked up about just because like these are kind of big fields, pretty big fields. And like the bottom of the field is always going to be a little, you know, and there's no sponsor exemptions into these tournaments. This can kind of semi be a little bit of a sponsor exemption in there to the point where like again, where you're going to have a problem is if you are squeezing out top talent from playing on this tour by having guys stick around too long. And like based on stuff we haven't gotten to yet, I don't feel like they're doing that. So that's where I'm like, very good point. I don't think it's worth getting overly upset because there's going to be like 120 to 130 guys on this tour. And like the next guy up might be like Max McGreevy. And I just, he's my go to guy that I always feel like I used in that spot of like, it's just not going to be that important to anybody's enjoyment of the golf tournament. I'm sorry. It's not as apologies to me. He's also not missing out like he's not going to get it in either way. You're just exactly that's what makes this super clean. So it can be a little icky, but also just not that worth getting overly upset about in my be. That's like the Adam Scott carve out. Well, that's what I was going to say that, but that doesn't fare because he's still competing. Like, you know, like it, you know, but no, but like this extra twenty twenty nine. He's like, yeah, but no, there's no fucking chance that Zach Johnson because you have to have held. No, no. Oh, yeah, sure. Right. Yeah, the year before where I was like, this feels like Adam Scott being like, all right. You know, I'm setting myself up for success here. 28 and I'll use it in 29 and I'll ride off into the sunset. I met more as example of how ZJ's career evolved than I would like specific to Adam, to Adam Scott. But I think the Adam Scott thing might still be several years away from from needing that kind of exemption here or team rose would be in this category. Yeah, I was kind of going to look at like who is like a big time potential here because it's top 25 and top 50, right? I think it is just I think I thought I saw it. If I was writing this legislation, no, I know it used to be, I thought it still was. I would say this is inflation adjusted career money list stuff and you know, uh, tiger tax adjusted as well, you know, like pre signature event, like you normalize all these purses basically. You go back to a points, a points structure of some sort. Maybe it's I had to date a golf solid, um, um, admittedly, I forgot about speed, uh, number number 10, number 10 on the all time, uh, body was my guys going to need it. So, hey, come on, I might, I might be revisiting some of my takes on this, but that, that's an exception. That's again, where I go to this is like the five of the top 50's been kind of interesting for several guys. I don't know if the five of the type top 90 is going to be that interesting. Yeah. Speed, speed is going to easily, you know, even when like speed and JT have had really bad seasons like the between 50 and 90, they're not falling outside the top 90. Yeah. But if you get it three or four more years down the road and yeah, and there's not many more new talented guys coming up, like, you know, the margins are going to get that much tighter as well. Let's look at some of the guys that might be interesting here. These are guys outside the top 90 in the FedEx Cup right now, uh, snarker. I don't know where he's at on the all time list, Brooks 98, big tone at 100, um, big tones got to love that they're, uh, out those point distributions as well, I wish there was a mechanism to short someone's career because, like, I think big tone was almost DFL. I don't know. This week. I can't believe that. I can't believe the three foot grip did fix it, so I got a big tone and John Rob almost DFL. It's not willing to say big tone is not a dude. Yeah. He's got to see it. He's got to see a little bit more. We think we'll be nice here. All right. Let's get through these last few parts. Uh, pathways, future stars, the PJ tour championship series will be captured through PJ tours, uh, through tours pathways, including PJ tour university and a last chance series. So number one player from PJ tour university following that season's NCA championship. You're straight to the championship track for that season and the following season, uh, that goes to strictly the number one honor guy. Uh, we'll get to that, but two through five from PJ tour you will get challenger series eligibility right away, uh, as well as there will be three cards that are available via a last chance series, which is as well, uh, moving a little quick. Good. Can I be just a teeny tiny bit of a web blanket on that one? Just a little bit of a question mark is I kind of alluded to this earlier, but like, man, I don't. Uh, we're 100% sure that's the best thing for some of those guys careers is throwing them like right in, like right from college, right into two years of playing against like the best players in the world, two years of one, one and a half, one and a half. Yeah. Oh, I guess it's the rest of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just got some of the Dunlap sergeant kind of stuff in the back of my head and it's just, I don't know. I, I almost am like, I like, I like it. I think, but I am a little tiny bit like just a little uneasy about throwing some of those guys like right into the, right into that fire. I think if you, um, there's a chance that like, you're talking about an alternate world where they go to a development tour and their career shakes, even just the challenge, even just the challenger. The challenger. Yeah. I would call it. Yeah. Maybe, yeah. I would call that developmental tour in this scenario of like a, you know, figure some things out and there's something to graduate from, um, like there's no, I obviously don't know what would happen. There's no guarantee like that, you know, people say, oh, he's not ready. He's not ready for the major leagues yet. You know, he hasn't faced AAA pitching yet. It's like, well, pacing AAA pitching is not going to help you, might not help you get better for the major league. It might just help us see major league pitching and what you need to do. It's kind of like the whole tour right now, the core, the core tour in certain. Yes. That's, that's my point of like, I don't know if like going and getting in the, uh, getting your ass thrown in the jackpot of, of the piece of shit putting contest that, that happens sometimes down there is the bet could be the best thing for you either. I get there's something to learn to be a professional and, and all that goes into that. I think it would be, it just would be tough to have a Ludwig graduating out of this and not, you know, it accomplished so, you mean, to win PGA tour, you just have to do so much in college, like a, a ton. And I think it is, um, it would be a lot worse the other way around like if the top player was not getting access to be one of the best players, you know, to, could be the best tour in the world. I think, yeah, again, I think that's probably right. And I think this is probably the right, I think it's probably the right rule. It's just, I don't know, it's a, it's a watch this space. I just, it's exactly how it works the last couple of years, like, that's not, it's not different. Well, it is different and that, like those guys don't get right into the signature events. Like, they get to, they get to the smaller event. And I know these are bigger fields and it's just, I don't know, I don't, I'm, I'm nervous about just wrecking, wrecking young talent because there's something very, very special when you do come out of college, you've, we've seen it like over and over and over where you have that like six months to a year of just like I'm the best player in the world. And a lot of those guys like, I don't know, maybe you take flight and maybe you figure it out in those six months, but man, I think you can also lose a shitload of confidence if you are a world beater and you come out and you just aren't ready. And I don't know, I just find that conversation very, very interesting. I don't know what the answer is, but I, I, that's always in the back of my head, I feel like that. It seems like we're probably talking about Preston Stout for this and, you know, going to 2027 or into 2028. So I think that the, like the, the one guy going into championship and then two through five going into challenger feels right to me like I think that's, that feels proportionate. Yeah. And that's similar to how it works now with, you know, top guy going to the PGA Tour and then two through five going getting core and fair status. But challenger series eligibility is going to be, so the top 20 from the challenger series goes straight to the championship. So 21 through 90 from the previous seasons, challenger point list will keep their challenger status for the next year. There will be 20 players that are promoted up from the corn fairy tour. And if you win a challenger event, you will get another year exemption as well. After your two year exemption is up for championship track, you get two years on challenger. If you want to tournament there as we discussed, and then again, those two through five on PGA tour, you and PGA Tour University accelerated anyone called the qualifies through that would go straight to the challenger series. Q school, top five winners at Q school will get a challenger at get challenger access as well, including two designated exemptions or some exemptions into challenger series events. So the last chance you, as mentioned, is a series of a minimum of four events with three cards available for the championship series, the eligible players for this, anybody that got relegated from the champion track, championship track, anybody that didn't finish in that top 90 on the championship track gets to play in last chance, kitchen at the end of the year. Everyone 21 through 90 on the challenger series also gets to play in this 20 players promoted from corn fairy can also play in this and get go straight to championship track, PGA tour, you grads and corn, Q school grads. Basically, there is a five o'clock free, free crack giveaway at the end of the year for a series of four events. I'm assuming it's going to be weighted based on kind of where you're coming from. Maybe it's not. Purely start from scratch, but three championship track cards will be given out through the fall, which I think's great. Like that gives you some great incentive for fall events and they're going to fill those out with tourist options, champions, links, master trophies, barstrel classic, creator classic. I mean, say in the obvious, maybe, but like watching the actual event today was great. It was great that Jacob Richmond won because I makes you think about him and his career in the president's cup and whatever. If he does not win, I'm kind of like searching a little bit for a reason to watch today. You know, it's it's like, I got Neil Shipley, nice, nice player, good corn fairy tour player. And maybe this sets on to his career on to some other track. But man, it's just hard without a big time center of gravity. And I think this gives the fall like a really, really good reason to watch in a ton of, uh, just a ton of why, you know, 100%. I, this was kind of a quiet one, a announcement of the complete overhaul of the PGA tour championship series points distribution and I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm purposely not going to use any numbers here just because it can get very confusing very quickly. But it's a big change in terms of how the points work now. A ton of reward is added in there for winning. There's a big, just a big proportion of points at the very top criticism of this we've had in the past is there's almost nothing to play for between like 60th and 30th place in terms of separation of points. This new system is a lot smoother than that. It used to be like, would you rather have a top 10 and a mist cut or two T30s? And the answer was always give me the top 10 in the mist cut, like, not even close. And I'm just pulling these examples out of a hat. I don't know if this, the math is actually supports this. But in this new scenario, the two consecutive 30th place finishes would be with that 65 points in each of those on a 10th place finishes only 100. So you would get more points out of finishing 30th twice than finishing 10th and missing a cut, which is a big change. And it, it, I know people don't geek out a ton over the numbers and the ups and downs. A lot of the movement of the FedEx cup from week to week, but rewards consistency a lot more, which is something that I think if we're talking about eligibility and not a championship race, we're talking about eligibility. That makes a lot more sense to me than just can you have massive big peak weeks and miss five cuts in a row? Like, you're going to pay a price a lot more for missing cuts and it's not showing up or not playing. Like, yeah, you're just not going to, because yeah, and you got a lot more to play for on the weekends when you do make a cut near the bottom of the board. So I, I, without seeing a simulation or without seeing this actually play out, I like this on the surface of, of how they've, they've reshifted that and just, it's going to become a lot, a lot easier to understand. I think the movement there. So until you get to say 9th or so, it seems pretty tethered to how many guys you beat. Like, you get a point for every guy that you beat. Right. You know, so are you finished 13th? You get 85 points. Yeah. Pretty, pretty simple. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. Well, well said. I think it's a good, good change. That's going to pretty much do it on the PGA tour side. We got a few grab bag items here. Did you guys catch deaf foreman's debut? I saw a little bit of it. Duff, Duff didn't seem to be on it. No, to kind of put them in a body bag too with the, I guess, Duff didn't know that it rained the night before. And if No, does put you in a body bag on, on the broadcast, you're definitely going to die. Yeah. Man, a lot of directions, a lot of directions you can go big shout out to all the, got you talking about the new Mexico, but no, you're a fucking idiot. If that's your take, you're, that's, that's the worst take in, in history. They made me think. No, it's not the word. It's not even the worst take to this event. As it relates to this specific character, which is that cable. Alibas will got this quote from the CEO of the production cut company said, quote, when people were riding in horse and buggies, they didn't ask for the car. This is the car. God, we gotta stop making movies about like some of these, these titans of technology. We can't have people thinking that, that they're the, the people, uh, inventing the light bulb here. This is horrible, horrible. I thought, I thought Ryan Burr was Duff for the last 10 years. He was the precursor to Duff for the bad. I just don't think anybody's asking for that. No, I think this might have been, you know, that all those AI CEOs were freaking out about, you know, becoming, I think it was about this. I think they're most freaked out about what this technology was going to do, uh, to the world, really. Uh, honestly, hopefully some of these people, uh, saw this and like, that's why they want to slow things down. That's what they want to say. Exactly. Like, you know what? Actually, this stuff does suck. I'll tell you the guy who should be fucking terrified, Luke Elvy, Duff Foreman's coming for your job. The video gave it's true. Yeah. Uh, just bad, just bad stuff, bad stuff. TCG, anything in the grab bag, not a whole, you see that Pebble Beach changes? Yeah. The, took the tree out on 16. Yeah. JT was mad as hell about that. I guess the tree was diseased. Yeah. So, uh, but they, they moved the tree on, they moved the T back on, on, on, on six a little bit to get guys hitting driver again. Did they already do that? Like, they moved back again. They just moved it back. I know. They might. So far back this year. I think that might have already been something. I don't know if they used it during the PJ tour event. Okay. I think they did. But that's a, yeah. Basically, the bunkers on, on, what, four on six, uh, made them more singular and made it to where you can, like the mowing lines, not going to look as egregious as it has. So it's, it's nice to see Pebble Beach showing just it, just an ounce of, of caring consideration for, like, the, the gem that they have, you know, or the, it might be the USGA as well. Cause they were going there for the USF. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still, I'm still concerned about next year. All sorts of, we got time tree dialogue on their, like, I know, I think the tree was just dying. So they took it out, like they put another tree in on, on 18, they put the second cypress back in there. So as tends to happen with trees, that's, that's kind of part of the, part of the risk of building the whole, the whole place around. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. And then actually I was on a flight, I was on a long flight yesterday, no Wi-Fi and, uh, it was a daytime flight. I was trying to stay up. So I read, I read the entirety of Lauren Rubenstein's, uh, uh, a season in Dornick yesterday, just to kind of get me. I never read it. I never read it. I read it about eight years ago, but it was kind of on the front end of having been to all these places and, and not really understanding a lot of the, the references. So rereading it was, was excellent. It's a very breezy read, like, I read it. It was a 10-hour flight. I read it in one sitting, and it was awesome. I highly recommend it. And it got me just jazzed about golf, generally speaking. It spoke to me in a big way, and just the reasons that I like golf, and I like watching golf, too. So it was a shot alive. I think Randy needs to read it again, too. I know Randy loves it. Yeah, it's been five or six years since he's read it. I think he needs to do for another dose of it. That's a great nudge. Love Lauren, love Dornick. That's, yeah, what am I doing? Good, good shout. Closing the loop on the Soulheim Cup, which is, of course, last weekend, ratings came out earlier this week. Stunningly low, 179K on Saturday, 170 on Sunday. I know morning golf doesn't rate great on golf channel. A lot of European or DP World Tour events do not end up with great ratings in the morning, but man, very close matches going into Sunday, not going up against football. Like football had not started yet. I was surprised to see the ratings that low. I know LPG ratings are not great to begin with, but they are not this low. So I can, I can hear you get your ready to make that comment and save it, save it. This was what I thought was a great opportunity to showcase the women's game. And I was stunned by how low this was. And coverage was better than it's been in years past, I think. And for Finka, it was on NBC, right? It had some network time. I don't think they did. I don't think. I know at 2024, when it was on the better US Windows Sunday singles, average 657 on NBC, which is not great. That's not that great for NBC as well. But the prior year comp 2023 was 277 on Golf Channel. So. I mean, it just goes to show you too how many people are firing up NBC, CBS at 2 PM, 3 PM on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, and just go into that and putting on what literally whatever is being televised as well and sitting there like Mitch McConnell just glazed over watching it. Yeah, just kind of just depressing, man, genuinely pretty depressing numbers, a great event. And it's kind of one of those, like, I just don't have a ton of ideas on kind of what you do. I'm sure it's a much longer conversation. But, man, if it's, yeah, if that's what we're getting to the Soulheim Cup, then we got some pretty massive issues. It seems like, yeah, I felt like as we, you know, we wrapped on Sunday, it felt like throughout the course of the week or as time got a little farther away, it seemed like the narrative was getting stronger and stronger against kind of the Angela Stanford captain CTC. I'm not sure if you felt any of that there. If there was anything we left on the table from that conversation Sunday night, because I know us being there in person, we did not feel nearly as strongly as some people that, you know, there were that, that, at least a lot of the discussion that I read early in the early part of this week, especially about the Saturday night incident of taking beers on the bus, which it to, I feel like it felt like an absolute nothing burger. Obviously, Europe used it for motivation, but I just did not see it as being a massive, the massive faux pas that, you know, some of the online comments, it's the perfect thing for Mel Reed or Dame Laura Davies to like piggyback onto and make fun of. I think like that's good fodder for, for a competitive event to kind of needle your opponent, but as far as actual analysis and such, no, yeah, I didn't think it was it like, it wasn't at all material to the competition. It was mostly related to like the, the caddies were just out there having fun all day that some, you know, some of their players weren't playing and supporting their teammates and all of that. And that's who the beer was for. Like it wasn't for the play, the players weren't like celebrating like they won the Soulheim Cup, but it was eight to eight on Saturday night. Like I don't, I don't think that's how that went down. Some of the comments, you know, they shouldn't have posted it. It's like, all right. Well, you know, it wasn't like Nelly Corda hit send on the post. Like, you know, the LPGA tour is overhauling how they do their social media and like the stuff that makes this event special plays well on social media would help gain awareness. Like the downside of that's like, well, it should gain awareness that the ratings sucked on the back half of that. Like that's not a good combination. But like they should be doing all they can to show how much the players are having fun with the event. And I don't, yeah, it's always just imagine if it was reverse. Man, imagine if it was just the team Europe showering their caddies with appreciation on Saturday night. That this is why they win this because they treat the caddies like they're part of the team. They do. I do. Of for sure. It's just a, yeah, kind of a kind of an eye roll. No, but I think some of the stuff with Angela, you know, I thought she was diplomatic with some of the KPMG insight stuff or not having the budget to, you know, have proper strokes gained and to be able to set some of the mashups correctly, I could have been smoother with all of that. I totally, I don't think she need to take like a little kind of slide dig at the super like we're just kind of set up with the smile, but when you write that in paper, like I didn't come off great, I think it sounded like an excuse to some and, you know, I get that. I just didn't. In the annals of like the just bad losing captains press conferences, this one ranks extremely, extremely low impact, like very inoffensive. I think she was pretty self deprecating and shouldered a lot of the blame. And I still think she was dealt a tough hand due to various factors and circumstances. And I don't know, I think the biggest bummer for me was just the fact that I thought it was a really good soul. I'm cup and the action was good. The golf was good. The golf course was awesome. Yeah. The venue was great. Like it was the crowds were great. Like I thought it was a true celebration. So the fact that we're talking about this stuff now is like just a bummer to me because it felt, felt like on the ground that there was real momentum. I completely agree with that TC as well said. Final notes. Your boy Stu Haggistad won the crump this week, big, big dub for him today. I'm sorry. Yeah. One that one. That's, of course, it pined. What was it? A few two time winners, only two time winners. It's like a very short list, right? Yeah. You know, a couple of weeks after I splash world closed. Yeah. Actually, splash world. Actually, splash world on the street. So kind of devastating there as well. And then yeah. I don't know. I had it was Bryson and Gary Player on Marine one with DT was was was a call. I guess a golf story as well for this past week, but what do you think Bryson's announcement is tomorrow? I'm not falling for this. I don't care. It's. It's a home. It's coming home. It's going to be something about that. Maybe he's going to be an England World Cup supporter. It's got to be something cow she related, it's got to be something brand related has to be it. I don't. I'm not following this for this for one second that that I need to wait around for this announcement. Yeah. I agree. I don't have a guess. Then our way out the fall Holdeners and born drop in the no-ling up pro shop has been restocked. We sold out of sizes for many of the pieces we dropped within just a couple of days. We got on the home with H&B and we're able to get a restock order on the way. It's ready for you now. So if you missed out, jump back in the pro shop store dot no-ling up dot com. 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