A Weekend in St. Louis and My Commencement Address

Hey, it's Andy Cohen here with this week's chapter of Andy Cohen's Daddy Diaries podcast. The high highs and low lows of my life is a daddy to two kids and dozens of housewives. This week I have a special episode, guys. I am recapping my incredible weekend in St. Louis and my commencement address at Washington University and oh, I'm a doctor now. So please address me accordingly. We will also be airing my WashU commencement address if you didn't hear it. So lots in store. This is Andy Cohen's Daddy Diaries podcast. Monday, May 18, 2026. Good morning, everybody. Why are we playing that, Jordan? Doctor Cohen. That's right. That's what I'm saying. Paging, Doctor Cohen. I know that's right. I'm a doctor, radio and e-listeners. Yes, I got an honorary doctorate over the weekend, doctor of fine arts from Washington University. You notice the Harvard of the Midwest by people at WashU who like to brag about how good a school it is. No, but it is an excellent school. And people, it's very hard to get into. I couldn't get into that school. I have a lot to talk about, but I am sad because John Hill is not here. He is at Smile Texas and of course, he'll have a full report on that tomorrow when he's back. He went for a quick trip last night, procedure this morning and back tonight. So he'll be back alive tomorrow. I'm in my gym clothes. And it's just hot out. The way that my day has laid out is that I am going to the gym right when we get off the air. And I was like, I don't want to bring him back back and change. Why am I on the radio if I can't wear my freaking gym clothes? So here I am. And Mandy Moore is coming up in the next half hour alive. So she's just going to have to deal with me and my gym clothes. Jordan asked me this morning, are you tired? Because I had a huge weekend. I went to St. Louis. I delivered the commencement address at Washington University. And I said, yes, I am. But the reason I'm tired is from the all day chess tournament. I was at yesterday with Ben, which was a do Z. But I want to talk about my weekend first. I can't I can't pollute myself with reliving it at the moment. By the way, I dropped Lucy off at school today and it was caregiver appreciation day this morning, which I had forgotten about. So at 910, they were hosting the helpers. So I had to call her nanny and be like, get over here, please. To be celebrated, we both forgot. It was on both of our minds at one point. And I know is today the 18th. Yep. Because that's caregiver day. And I forgot. That's the way she went and whatever. So I flew to St. Louis on Thursday. And by the way, I'm sitting next to this really handsome dude on the plane. And I was watching Atlanta Housewives on the plane. And he was doing his thing tall handsome white guy. And I was like, hmm, you know, like who is this guy? And when we land, I said, are you from St. Louis? No, turns out he is the CEO of Aniserbush. Yes. So this was a serious person to meet, serious business leader. Aniserbush, the proud of St. Louis. So I was so excited to meet him. And I was so bummed I hadn't talked to him. By the way, he's married with kids. So there you go. I can stop Googling. Yes. And do you know what the number one beer sold by Aniserbush is? And I think actually it may be the number one beer in the market. What do you think, Scott? My first thought was Budweiser. Right. That was mine too, George. I was going to say Bud Light. It's Michelob ultra light. And I think that maybe the number one beer period. But I thought that was so interesting. I would not have tagged it. Oh my god, my phone is starting to, it's starting to transcribe everything I say. Oh, this is my nightmare. By the way, yeah, Michelob ultra is currently the top selling beer in the United States. Yes. My volume. Overtaking Madello. Okay. Which I also wouldn't have guessed. There you go. Anyway, so that was fun talking to him. I spent a fun day with my parents in St. Louis. I took my mom to her beauty parlor. I got to watch her hair get done. And when it was done, it's so funny. I mean, these, I mean, I kind of thought it looked better going in. I would never tell her this because it was just natural. But what these guys do is they blow the hair out and they give them like a bubble. You know what I'm saying? It's like a, it's almost a mushroom cap. It's like a bubble and he turns her around and theirs my mom with like a sweet bubble and she looks so pretty. She got it done for the graduation when she, they wound up going to. I'm happy to report. I had, I had said they were, you know, I think they were getting stressed out about going. But thank you to the folks at Washu who made it so easy for them with golf carts and wheel chairs and who knows what. But it was, it was so great. And anyway, I watched her get her hair done and then I took her and my dad out to five star burger and Clayton and St. Louis and we sat outside. It was a beautiful day on Thursday and I went Thursday night to this black tie dinner for the trustees of Washu and the other people getting their honorary doctorates. Honorary doctorates or honorary doctor. I don't know. Anyway, I mean, that's why I'm a fake doctor. I don't know what's what. So it was a really interesting great dinner and had a wonderful talk with one of the honorees. You know what was got. It's going to blow your mind. I do know who it was. Why you saw my Instagram? Michael McDonald. I mean, from the doobie brothers and Michael McDonald fame. I mean, what a fool believes for cat it. I mean, and he got up and performed a song at the at the dinner played minute by minute by minute. And it's so funny because I was wondering I was like, is this Michael McDonald's biggest hit that he would be performing at this thing? But then it was pointed out by John, John, to me that maybe it's the song that he could, he was what was he playing on to? Was accompanying him? I go, he was solo on a piano. He goes, yeah, maybe that's, you know. So from there, I went, I don't forget. It was straight Dave's daughter's graduation weekend. So straight Dave and his whole family were there. So I met Hannah's wife, Ali, for a drink after this fancy dinner at Napoli in Clayton. Then I went, then we went to blueberry hill where his daughter, the graduate was with all of her friends, Big Wash U bar. It was a big Clayton high bar back when you could have a fake ID and get in somewhere. And it's just, I mean, it's a bar I grew up going to, which is crazy. So we go there and it was packed. I was so glad I was able to jump the line. I never take that for granted as like, as a famous person. I never, I hate lines. That is one of the top perks, top five perks. So we went in and I have to say it was a little pandemonium that I was there because I was speaking at their graduation the next day and it was whole thing and it was fun and festive and I was drinking a beer and I was drinking an ultra light. I said, well, now, you know, this is what I have to drink. So these kids kept saying, we can't wait to hear you speak tomorrow night. We can't, or tomorrow morning, we can't wait to hear your speech. And I kept saying, oh, man, I got to write that. I got to write that. And I think some of the kids thought I was going to go home and like, write it because when you're in college, that's kind of what you do. Like, oh, I got to write that paper. I got to go. So that I just was very tickled by that line. And the next morning, I was up at 6 a.m. The next morning, a.m. I was on New York time, but I was so pissed all weekend. I was in a fancy hotel. I was in the ritz because there were, there were ex basically I was, there was no place for me to stay at my parents. I would say that. And I was there, which was lovely and I was on the 18th floor, which is the club floor, where they serve a gorgeous breakfast. Let me detour. Check. And I ate like a pig. And there is nothing I like more than a pig-ish breakfast. I like just two chicken sausages, bacon, lockson, bagel, omelet, two my making, great. Anyway, I woke up so early. Just couldn't sleep and I was excited and also I did wanna wash my hair first things with dried so that by the time I spoke at the graduation I had been dry for a few hours. Ladies, when you wanna get your hair right, or men, men wanna get their hair right. Scott, is there any deviation in your hair day to day? Would you say? - No, I don't put anything in it. I just, yeah, come on, bring it down. - Just stays down the middle. - Yeah, it's got it. So I was in the little breakfast club and this is the skies that I had met at the trustees thing at 615 again, they're like, can't wait to hear your speech. I'm like, yeah, I gotta go write it. Just thought it was funny. What can I say? Went to the graduation, they immediately put me in my robe and I gotta tell you, the second they put me in this green robe and hat, I was like, oh, this is, this is fun. And then I started seeing graduates out the window walking to the big stadium. And I forgot, I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna be crying all day. Like graduations make me cry and I forgot 'cause God knows it's been so long since I've been to a graduation, why wouldn't it? And then my parents show up backstage, we were in the business school. And I was like, I was so excited. I almost started crying, man. I might start crying now 'cause I was like, I was so glad they came after so much talk and there they were and we were back there. And when everyone from Washu was like, good morning doctor. So I mean, I was just really getting gasped up. You know, I mean, people were just blowing smoke up my ass left and right. And I loved it. But also I just felt, I felt really proud. And as you will hear in my speech, we will play it at some point. It's up on my Instagram. My grandma Ruth Cohen graduated from Washu, 1928. My sister got her master's in 1995. My mom, 58, my uncle, no, 58, my uncle, like 62, my uncle Robert, 68. I mean, that's how many family I have that went to Washu. So my uncle Robert was there, my uncle Stanley went to Wash, just too much. So I did Bruce gave me a note. And when you see the speech, you will agree. I fumbled what I wore under the robe 'cause I said in the chancellor that I prefer like what to wear under the robe. And I had Darren asked what to wear. They're like, you can wear anything you don't see it. I did wear a blue collared button down shirt, but it looked, I don't know, it looked too casual. It didn't work. So I watched the processional with the chancellor of the school from the window of the business school. And he's watching all of his students. He's like, here's the, here's the, here's the business school. These are the engineering people 'cause he could tell by what color, you know, Shalze and I'm sure he knew a lot of these students. And it was just, and they were seeing us and we were waving at them through the window and it was, I'm telling you, I was like, I was really choked up. This is everything they've worked for and here they are. It's their day. Just really exciting. And anyway, you know, not to be a dead horse, but it was just an exhilarating, beautiful, it was a, it turned into a beautiful day. And just marching out there with all of the other honorees, they were really esteemed other people getting honorary degrees. They had a the muni in St. Louis. This woman who went to court, there's a movie about her called Denial Fighting a Holocaust Denier. Just absolutely outstanding group of people and outstanding deans of each school. It was really exciting to be with all of these educators and just inspiring people. And, you know, it was, it was fun. It was fun being up there. I loved giving my speech. I was in a vibe. I felt great about it. It was, it was just, it was really nice inspiring. I cried during this student speaker, Mason who got up and gave one of the two speeches by the graduates. He was incredible. And it was just great. They gave me a big large Emo's pizza after, which is a St. Louis kind of pizza. I took it to my parents. I ate at least half of it in the car of thin pizza. And I get up, my mom goes, who's been eating this with you? I'm like, don't worry about it. Have I done enough today that I can't just finish this pizza? And that afternoon I went to, went to like, take a nap at the ritz. And then I was like, it's a beautiful day. I had my dad's car with me, which is like a BMW convertible. I called my friend, Genie, who was there. I go, let's go find a pot store and smoke a joint and walk around. She goes, let's do it. This is a friend from high school. I mean, old times, she and I go in the loop. We find a pot store. We buy one joint. We walk outside. There's a Rostafarian in front of the pot store. He goes, he go, I go, hey man, I go. Can we buy him a light from you? He had been smoking a joint, which had been lit somehow when we were on the way in. He goes, yeah, I don't have a light. So I'm like, okay, this guy's not giving me a light. So I go to, so then he looks up. He goes, you're famous. I go, do you think I'm famous? He goes, you're on TV. He gets a big smile on his face. I go, I am famous. I go, let me ask you a question. He goes, what I go, gotta light. He goes, yeah. And he gave it to me. Unfair. My friend, Jean, he goes, yeah, now that you're famous, you gotta light. Crazy. That night, Straight Dave had a dinner for both of our families, which was wonderful. And when you think of what a full circle moment, college roommate, me speaking at daughter's graduation, then we're all together. Let me make it even more full circle. When I was in college, I went for Jewish holidays to Dave's family in Connecticut. His daughter went to Jewish holidays at my sister's house in St. Louis. So the families knew each other. It was beautiful. And when I walked in the first time, here comes Dave's roommate who Dave has told his whole family, I love this guy. He's great. Andy Cohen, whatever. I walk in his grandpa, Sam, Oliver Sholam, turns to the grandma and says, "Fegala about me. He clocked me from the moment I walked in two steps in." They all kept saying to Dave, is he gay or he's like, no, he's not gay. Are you crazy? Anyway, we had a wonderful dinner that night met my friend Jeannie from high school and Carrie from high school for dinner for drinks at Napoli again. It was so fun to go to the airport when I'm leaving St. Louis. Just a great weekend, great vibes, awesome, great family time, great, great, great. Happy, happy, happy. I'm at the airport going home and I'm waiting to board the plane and they're calling pre-boarding. And you know, give me your tired and your poor to pre-board or people with kids, right? But then this family of three is standing there about to pre-board, able-bodied people. And I am standing there and these two guys and the daughter who's like in high school, I mean, they're just, they wanna get on. And I said to myself and to anyone who can hear, why is this guy pre-boarding? (laughs) And I go, just go ahead. So then I get busted. The guy turns to me and said, did you just ask why I'm pre-boarding? And I go, no. I cast-let him. And he goes, I go, I didn't. He goes, you just said, why is this guy pre-boarding? And I go, I didn't say anything. We went twice back and forth. And when I tell you, and I kinda looked around like, can you believe this guy? I'm telling you, I was embarrassed. I was absolutely embarrassed. I cast-let him. So then I don't know why. Well, I know what. I was embarrassed and nervous, the guy ports. And then we're standing there. I kind of, I don't even know how I did it. I got startled or something. I've got a large T. And I guess I move quickly or shook it. It splattered all over the sleeve of the guy in front of me. Just all over. Now God was with me here because he was wearing a windbreaker. So I said, oh, I'm so sorry. And I immediately just, you know, windbreakers. The thing to spill tea on. Anyway, I was, it was so crazy. So the woman, the wife of the guy that I spilled the tea on wound up sitting next to me on the plane. And she goes, she goes, can we get tickets? Can I have a photo? I said, yeah. And then she goes, can we have tickets to your show? And I go, she goes, since you spilled tea on my husband. And I go, yes, of course. And then she said, you know, the truth is I don't know who you are. She goes, but we want to come to your show. My niece told me we have to come to your show. And I'm like, all right, well now this is going out of South. I don't like that. But anyway, I got busted. I got busted. I don't like them. No, but I got busted by that. Well, if you're pre, listen, the pre-boarding with kids is for people with small children. Yes, this was not. It's your time. Once your kids can just like walk on the plane and sit, like, you can't be like-- No, this was an able-bodied. Yeah, no. They're in the wrong. Oh my god, it was-- so I did end a glorious weekend on a little bit of-- I was like a little-- I didn't want to feel any shame, but I did a little bit. But then people on the plane were like, they had all seen this beach, whatever. So that was that. It was great weekend, you guys. I hope everybody-- Jordan, did you watch the speech? I sure did. What'd you think? I thought it was good. Oh, that-- oh my god. Scott. What? I watched it too. Wait, was that because I went up at the end? Yeah, that was a bad-- I thought it was great. That was-- I thought it was great. Wow. You know what that voice was, the intonation? It was like, everyone else thinks it's horrible. And you're like, I thought it was good. No, it was because you felt-- everyone already said it was good. You felt good about it. So like, what am I-- yeah, it was good. I thought it-- you had some great beats in there, some good jokes. OK, all right. I want to stop talking about this. That didn't land well. I will tell you who sent me the sweetest text. Who is a tough critic is John Hill. And it made my day. It made my day. So when you get feedback from people who you respect, you really-- it means a lot, which is why when someone you respect says, it was good. OK, no, you made a face that I didn't make. I didn't say, like, no, you just got-- Listen, I'm clearly sensitive about it. I just-- Sister Carrie sent me a text, my sister, my friend Carrie sent me a text saying, I'm sure it was memorable for the kids. And I was like, well, so I misread that. Anyway, let me say this. After you said that, Scott clocked it the moment I did. Did you not, Scott? I did, yeah. I mean, it was-- it was-- we'll hear in the mail bag about that. But that-- It's not how I meant it. OK, here's what we're going to do. Tomorrow. Yeah. I want you to isolate. That exchange. And we're going to play it for John, and we're going to see what he thinks. Great. What could go wrong for me? No. John, God knows what could go wrong for me. Listen, that's a coin toss. We don't know where that's going to go. I mean, I am, by the way, wearing like basketball shorts and a T-shirt. Like, this is-- Patrol my neck. --and a blues hat. Guess what? If you-- oh, my sister was very upset because in my introduction by the chancellor, he didn't say-- he didn't mention Radio Andy or two channels on "Series," whatever. She goes, you know, that's the thing that you do that I love the most. And you know, that's-- yeah. Got a lot of people DMing about names for the listeners, which-- I got so many emails. It's not-- You-- There's one good one. OK, good. Well, then we'll mention it to John tomorrow. But I-- it's a lot. It's a lot. Maybe I shouldn't have done that. I think it'll come up naturally. I think it will, but the one that I like was is something that was like in our orbit that makes sense. And it's, I think, a contender. Right. All right. Wow. What a weekend. [MUSIC PLAYING] Back with more from this week's Daddy Diaries after this. And now here is my 2026 Wash You commencement address in its entirety. Come back next Friday on the podcast for the recap for the rest of our week. And there's a lot there. Good morning, graduates. [APPLAUSE] Thank you, Chancellor. Graduates, I've been immersing myself in Wash You. Last night, I did shots with Chancellor Martin. And I had a chance to meet some of you at the Shamrock Downtown and at Blueberry Hill. [APPLAUSE] And my assessment is Class of 2026. You are brilliant. [APPLAUSE] Now, this isn't my first Wash You speaking gig. Years ago, I was hired by a news anchor to write a speech that she was delivering right here at Wash You. Now, I don't remember what it was about, but I remember the paycheck. And I remember that my mom had friends in the audience who described it as stupid and the most boring thing they'd ever heard. Now, for the last few months, my mom graduate of the Wash You class of '58 has been telling me that today's remarks better not be stupid or boring because I can't fail twice at Wash You. So thanks, mom, for the encouragement. Here's hoping for the best. And if you don't like the speech, blame me and not clawed. AI had nothing to do with any of this. [APPLAUSE] As it turns out, our brains work just fine. I actually come from a long line of Washington University graduates in 1929, just shy of 100 years ago, my grandmother Ruth Sachs received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Washington University. In the audience this morning are my mom, class of '58, my uncle Stanley Allen, class of '62, from the class of 1968, my uncle Robert Cohen, and my sister Emily Rosenfeld who received her MBA in 1995. [APPLAUSE] You're probably thinking, well, what happened to you, Andy? Well, I was just a few blocks away, somewhere in Clayton Partying. Was I too dumb to get into Wash You? You asked, perhaps I was. Was my mother's greatest fear about me at that time that I would, quote, "grow up to be an airhead"? Yes, it was. But today, this airhead is walking away with an honorary degree from a university referred to as the Harvard of the Midwest. [APPLAUSE] And ranked as number one in Best College dorms by niche.com. [APPLAUSE] I'm a doctor, everybody. [APPLAUSE] It took a weird route for me to get this degree, but sometimes the weird way to success is the right way to success. Now success is the thing you all graduate wanting. And today, I want you to redefine what that means. Take a little of the pressure off yourselves and broaden your scope of what success is. Success isn't about becoming a CEO in your 20s. It's not having a million followers on TikTok. It's not even having an exact plan for your future. Success from today forward will instead come from knowing who you are, who your friends are, and following your dreams. One of the great successes of my life has come from the community that I have built around me. Now, graduates, your life community, your life's community has already started, and the people around you will hopefully remain with you for many years to come. I started my community down the road at White on Junior High and at Clayton High School. Then, on my first day of Boston University orientation, I arrived to my dorm to find that my roommate had already come and gone. Who is this person I wondered? It was one way to find out. I immediately started going through his luggage. I found that he liked boxer shorts, and he seemed preppy. Now, that seemed like a match. I left to go explore campus, and when I came back to the room a few hours later, my boxer-loving roommate greeted me. Hello, Lewis, he said, having also gone through my luggage and thought the name on the tag, my dad's, was mine. Worth noting that he found my boxers too, and thought it was also a good sign. Now, I'm not sure why having the same taste in underwear resonated for us, but here we are. And I tell this story because that roommate has remained like a brother to me, and today his daughter is out there graduating with all of you. And I love a full circle moment. Success is building a community, and keeping that community close, cherish your community. It will become the fabric of your life. Nurture your friends and acquaintances. Stay in touch. Be kind. Reach out. Check in. Be the person that's there for others. Show up. This will come to benefit you. And sometimes the most random people are going to reappear in your lives in the most magical ways. When I was your age, I knew I wanted to work in TV. I wanted to be on TV, but I was not sure how to get there. I moved to New York, planning to wait tables until a job opened at CBS News, where I had interned. Now, I got lucky and became a production assistant there within a month's time. I was making very little money and getting by working lots of overtime. But man, when I got that first check with the CBS eye on it, nobody could tell me that I was not a success. I felt like I had made it. And in every job I had over 10 years there, I felt successful, because I was having fun. I was not on TV, but I was living a good chunk of my dream, having capital F, U, N, fun, creatively stimulated, working in a media I loved. I wasn't getting any sleep, but nobody moves to New York to sleep. I was happy, though, and happiness is success. It is invaluable. I knew a lot of people who were making a lot more money than me, but none who were having half the fun that I was. Now, one thing that I know, fuel success is curiosity. Be nosy. There was not a door at the CBS broadcast center that I didn't open just to see what was inside. There was not a question I didn't ask. Being nosy is an underrated trait. Now, I got to tell you, people from St. Louis, there are inherently nosy. I don't know what it is about this town, but I was born with it, and I challenge you to be nosy now more than ever. Be nosy about figuring out what's true. Think independently. Don't allow yourself to be gaslit by people telling you one thing when you can plainly see through it. Success is taking opportunities offered to you. Say yes. After 10 years at CBS, I was offered an opportunity that took me out of my comfort zone, but led me to becoming head of programming at Bravo. Now, I've always been something of a no at all, but at Bravo, I learned that leaning into your failures can lead to success. I was certain that the first show I produced for Bravo was going to be a huge hit. It was a huge bomb. We did research to figure out why it bombed when we had been so sure otherwise. We learned that it probably would have been a hit on one of our competitors, but it was off brand for us. Now, this led us to work hard to rigidly define what our brand was in program into it, which no surprise led to success. The biggest success of my career will be my involvement with creating and producing the real housewives. But thank you. But it didn't start that way. We were shooting season one, and it all seemed to be going so wrong that I, the head of programming for the network, was hoping my boss would kill the show, take a loss, and take this mess off my plate. She didn't. She said, we are sticking with this show. And not only that, she said, we are changing the name from the real housewives to the real housewives of Orange County in case we ever decided to do it in another city. Now, I remember saying, this is the dumbest title of a show I've ever heard. The real housewives of Orange County, what did that mean? Housewives of Orange County? And where on Earth, where on Earth else would we ever do this show? So today, we are celebrating 20 years of the housewives, which has become a worldwide hit, with 10 versions alone in America. And don't sleep on the real housewives of Rhode Island people. I have learned a lot about success from the real housewives. And you can too. The housewives can get scrappy. But their ability to forgive is regenerative, and a lesson for all of us. Success for a real housewife is learning how to laugh at yourself and own when you're wrong. Lean into it, and you can stay in control. I've learned a lot about branding from the housewives, who have brilliantly branded and monetized hobbies, passions, and things they've said. They've also failed spectacularly at branding. I shudder to think of the warehouses of sparkle dog food, pink and sparkly, which now that I think of it, maybe doesn't sound like such a bad idea. But the ones who started small and leaned into what they're good at or known for have succeeded. Well, finally, the real housewives are brilliant at finding a look that works for them and sticking with it. Get your look and your glam right, graduates. And you will go far. Yes, I said that. Get your glam right, wash you. [APPLAUSE] applause in the front. Thank you. The housewives are always entertaining when they're saying something totally outrageous at the wrong time. But that is also about making great television. Graduates, one thing I can be sure of is that knowing how to navigate social situations is going to bring you real success. I spoke earlier about saying yes at the right time, but get comfortable with the idea of saying no. There's a great power in saying no. And to the nosy people who ask, why? Why? Why can't you come to dinner? Why? You mainly don't owe anyone an explanation. I can't works great. That's as far as you need to take it. Saying no gives you power over your destiny. To stay out of situations, you don't want to be in. You are an impressive bunch. I wrote brunch. I hope all of you have an impressive brunch after graduation today. You're an impressive bunch, and you're going to come in contact with very successful people. Folks, you may be intimidated by or people you want to make a good impression in front of. And my advice for having success in these situations is to ask questions. People love talking about themselves. Look at me. I flew all the way from New York City to Yammer about myself to you this morning. Fearlessly ask questions and keep the ball in the air. Now, if I can leave you with one last marker of success, graduates, this is so important. It is to always maintain your clean, fresh, smelling breath. No one wants to smell gas coming out of your mouth, and nobody forgets someone with bad breath. It is a stink. You cannot shake. Good breath equals success, and I swear it. Have a great happy day. and successful life, I'll see you at Blueberry Hill. Go Bears! That's all for this week's edition of Andy Cohen's Daddy Diaries podcast. To hear every minute of my Kiki with John plus interviews news and more, you can listen to my serious XM channel, Radio Andy, anytime on the serious XM app. We'll see you right back here with more Daddy Diaries next week.