A Very Special Listener “Tailbag” Episode

>> Welcome to Rieger Tailgate, the special tailbag edition of the show. We have reached out to the Gators and they have come and replied with lots of their thoughts on the show. We got some fun stuff to get into, but first and foremost, let's say what's up to our guys. Van Lathen still in San Diego. What up, Van? >> What's up? >> Yeah. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's what's up. >> Yeah, we updated. We needed the energy because Joel does not like to give it at the top of the show, but Joel, what's up, man? How you doing? >> I mean, Van is our celebrity, man. Van is the center of the show. People come to the show because they want to see what Van is going to say. >> So he should do it. >> It's true. >> It's true. >> I mean, Joel, you and Van raised the roof. >> So I feel like the fact that we do that, it's your, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's your thing. >> I feel like we've come a long time since that show that I missed in October, and Curtis said in. And I felt like I was like, damn, this kind of, it seemed like the people kind of like Curtis more than they like me. You know what I'm saying? I kind of felt the way. >> Nobody ever said, do you? >> I think everybody said that they missed you. >> That was a good idea. >> It was funny though, when we were talking with men, we were talking about the baby mama on there. And Brian wanted no part of it. >> Yeah. >> That was funny. >> He was doing that. He was like looking around. He was like checking his notes. Yeah, he didn't want to. >> Man, Brian, we were, Brian is not interested. It's the most funny thing. We sat next to somebody that's the championship game a couple years ago. And this woman has become famous since then, I'm not going to say her name. But she's attached to the Racini scandal, that's, that's all I can say. And she said in between us for some reason, and she was so annoying. But Brian, like totally, he just tuned her to fuck out. He did not pay attention to her. He was a true J. >> Yeah, he was moving. And so she kept talking to me, like she was talking, I was like, God damn, I'm trying to pay attention to the game. I'm trying to get my notes right for this game story. >> I hate that on media, Ro. It's like we're not here to gap. >> Yeah, man, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to watch the game. >> Yeah. >> No, I'm with that. I think that's a fair point. Before we get into the tail bag, any, any big picture of thoughts, anything that are lingering before we get into August? How excited are we, man, for a college football? >> Super excited about the start of the season. It's going to be one of the most interesting college football seasons in a while. So many things. The, the, the, the, the, the field is wide open, but also the narrative is wide open. We don't even know what narrative we're going into the season with, there's so many things going on. I can't fucking wait. >> Yeah, yeah, laying at Ole Miss is, is Sarkin Arch going to do it with Dianne going to do it? >> Lane at LSU. >> No disrespect. >> What did I say? >> No, you're saying at Ole Miss when he plays at Ole Miss. >> Yeah, when LSU plays at Ole Miss, yeah, that's what I'm saying. >> Yeah. >> I apologize. >> I was going to see that. >> No. >> No, but it did sound like you were saying Lane at Ole Miss. >> Yeah, right now. >> By the way, I watch in this video right now of King Griffey Jr. and hitting a, a 100, a 104 mile an hour fastball out, he pulled it. >> Really? >> How's that possible? >> Damn, I'm going to fucking man. >> Yeah. >> He's so good. >> King Griffey Jr. Man, people don't know. He was, I mean, just, I just remember when he was like the child, yeah, they called him the kid, and I was a retired photographer, you know? >> He's great doing that, by the way. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> He's great at Johnson. They go through that together. >> It's great. I always think that's just really cool. When they find a passion about something and get into it, like that, I always think that's really cool. >> I pitched, when I first started working for Bill, I was like, you should do something on that manners team with like A-Rod, King Griffey Jr., Jamie Moyer, Randy Johnson, like that group of guys, you know? >> Mm-hm. >> And he was like, they didn't win anything. And I was like, well, fair point. >> I guess they did not win anything, but a really fun team, love that team, King Griffey the best. All right. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we got the tail bag. And all of our mini-gators had to reach out to us. And we're going to break down all of your thoughts, questions, comments, and beyond. We'll be right back after this. This episode is presented by EA Sports College Football 27, where you can define your path and road to glory with deeper customization and new positions. And the fun doesn't have to end when schools out with the MVP bundle get access to College Football 27, Madden NFL 27, and more rewards to help you go from high school recruit to NFL superstar. Take your eyes, learn more about the MVP bundle now. Conditions and restrictions apply CEA.com/game/EA-Borts-College-Football/College-Football-27/Game-Disclaimers for details. Okay. Let's do it. The tail bag. It's official. We have, we had some people reach out with other names for our mailbag. A lot of mailbags happening in the ringer universe right now, Van. How many mailbags have you been a part of in your mailbag? No, we don't do them. Hard learning doesn't do it. We used to do mail back. We used to do mail back time. We got rid of it. Fuck it. And then, but the midnight boys don't really do mail back. House of R doesn't know. Yeah. House of R does them. Joel is the press box. I mean, I feel like that would be. No, no, we don't get them. We don't get mailbags. I mean, we will read readers or, you know, listeners, emails on air whatever respond to them from time to time. You know, we actually don't have a mailbag. We should. Well, now it's the perfect time because we have a mailbag here, aka the tailbag, and we'll start with Jake Miller, who reached out to us and Jake shot out to you a true tailgator. He said, if you had to pick three ultimate college football trips for a guy's weekend, what would they be? I'm looking for the total package. He wants a leak game day, energy, legendary tailgating, great local food, and plenty of things to do outside the stadium van. I'll go to you first. You can give one. You can give three. Your answer B for Jake. So obviously the answer for me would be LSU, but I'm not going to do that. Be on the nose. I'm going to say, Austin Stadium, or a great, great game day atmosphere, great place to go watch a game. Joel doesn't like it. If you're looking for stuff to do outside of the game, no, a cool little town. It might be a little bit of the essence, Oxford, the growth at Ole Miss, is the essence now. You got to limbo fans out there, man. I want to go to Ole Miss, Doc. What's happening? The growth is cool. I went there in college. You want to see the vein? You want to go see some of the white women? You know what the plug, I'm talking about. You want something with my beavers. Joel, do you have any options for Jake? Yeah, I did three. So people are going to be surprised I've never been to this game. I would go to Bayou Classic, man. I've never been to Bayou Classic. Joel, I was about to call you the bad word, bro. You talk all of that shit and you've never been to the Bayou Classic before, bro. Bro, I mean, it's the first time I was really busy week of football and I've usually overworked or I was broke or I was in a relationship where I couldn't go. But I want to go. I think it would be cool to be surprised by this game. We should go to that. We should go to that this year. Yeah, man. It would be fine. The Red River Showdown. You know, I've never been to that. I know that people are surprised, but I've never been to that game. So Texas and Oklahoma. I've never been to that either. Oh, bro, never been in that either. We go to that game. Oh, hell, man. The state fair. So when I lived in Dallas and in Texas, I went to the state fair like eight straight years of the row, bro. Like even fried coke, fried butter, fried Oreos, fried Oreos. You can go see goat's dog. Turkey leg. Turkey. They fried Coca-Cola. Well, they fight a Coca-Cola. So I get it. In the can. In the can. They port. No, they port it like a batter. And they just fry. So you take a bite and then the coke will like it. Yeah. And it tastes like coke, yeah. It tastes like coke. Is it good? Yeah. Pretty good. Yeah. I mean, your voice kind of got high there. No, no, no, man. They don't make anything bad at the state fair. Everything. I've never had a bad. Fun cakes are always great. Fun cakes. Yeah, bro. I look. We should definitely go to that. And also, hey, Dallas, it's a little fun time to get out in too. It's a good. But got a lot going on there. So I would love that. And this is going to be kind of crazy, it's off the beaten path. I've never been. I want to go to the Montana versus Montana State game, Doug, the Brawl and the Wild. You know, I've heard so much. It looks beautiful out there. You know, the scene. The scenery always just looks cool. Like it's like a little snowy or some shit like that. Montana is beautiful. Man, my boy Kevin van Valkenberg, bro, he hit me up one time. It was talking about doing a fellowship that Kevin van van Valkenberg. He sounds Norwegian. Yeah. Hold on. Let me just make sure that I'm saying Kevin's name. Kevin van Valkenberg. Yeah, Kevin van Valkenberg. He's working ESPN. Nice at golf. What's it? I don't know the name of it. Oh, it's nice. Directive continued Friday, golf. I've never heard of it. Oh, Friday. That's good. You heard of that. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, yeah. His family is tied up in Montana. And so before I had kids, he was, I mean, you should apply for this fellowship. You get to live in Montana for like six months and, you know, teach and all that stuff. And that's not a real cool, you know. I like it. Okay. All right. So those are your three. My three are just three that I've been to that I thought were great Virginia Tech Blacksburg. I don't know when else you would go to Blacksburg. Yeah. Lane Stadium. Incredible atmosphere. Great tailgating. Very nice people. By the way, like before the game at least, you know, because they expect to beat your ass. So Virginia Tech would be in their Clemson as a great game day atmosphere, a lot of fun. And then Pullman Washington for wazoo, those would be my, you like the vibe of Pullman, huh? Man. That is a real football. Honestly, they have like SEC energy. They're just in the Pacific Northwest. That's true. Yeah. They were really friendly. I went to one of the, what did they call it? Was the Apple Cup? Yeah. Apple game, Apple Cup, Apple Cup, Apple Cup twice, Apple Cup, Apple game, Apple Cup's great. Yeah, one year. One year they had a very, very hard fought game. It's one of the most underrated rivals. It really is. It's so good. It's a, it's a really good game. So people, there's a lot of hate between that face, Washington, the like to, the hate in that rivalry to me, uh, rivals any pure hate might not be as big nationally, but there is real animus between those fan bases and those two cosplay ball cultures for sure. A real, yeah, real cultural difference. I mean, you know, since Seattle is the Urbane, Cosmopolitan, beautiful, mixer city, and then you got the police. And they're on the opposite sides of the state too, you know, it's a seven hour drive between those two schools. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a fight. It's a beautiful drive, man. I'm flowing into Spokane and then drove in there. Man, it's really pretty. Yeah. If you go to Pullman during the summer when it's green, like the rolling hills are green, it's not burned out. You know what? Really pretty. I had Corvallis on the mind because another underrated one is the, the Civil War. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Organizing. They were, those are really good rivalries that, you know, um, that we're taking away from us with, uh, or anything. Or you say, man, I went to Oregon State to do a story on, uh, Craig Robinson, man. I always feel like I was, I'm partially responsible for Craig Robinson getting fired because I did a big profile on him for Buzzfeed and it was about like, well, he's a good guy. He's, you know, cares about his kids, but he's not winning like how long can this go on? And then he got fired, like, you know, three weeks later, man. I thought you were talking about the comedian. I thought so first. Okay. Robinson. No, Michelle Obama's brother, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a podcast. Yeah. I spent a lot of time. I mean, Corvallis is, it's, it's night. I wouldn't want to live there and nothing, but it was nice. Yeah. There you go. Uh, next up from Toronto, uh, Canadian tailgator here, Mark Johnson, uh, he said that he is proposing a college super league and, uh, he said that we need to banter this up more on the pod, get the 80 nonsense out and bring geographic stability back to the scheduling landscape. He wants one super league divided into 20 northern and southern conferences. Um, so 40 teams while promotion relegation, two teams up, two teams down every two years. All other schools are independent to start and allowed to form their own geographic pools if they want to. So we have 10 teams in the Northwest Division, uh, Oregon, Washington, 10 teams, Northeast Division, Ohio State, Michigan, uh, and then we have the Southwest Division, USC, Texas and then the Southeast Division, Georgia, LSU, Miami, uh, the CSL is what he's calling this, played nine division games, uh, plus one at large CSL rivalry and one wildcard independent rival or not, uh, again, promotion relegation triggers geographic realignment, which bear, which is barely, barely noticeable being only two up to down and then he follows it up at the end by saying L F G T C U and C this year is officially the Gator Bull, uh, the name that we're calling this, um, so he's looking forward to that. So I like that as a Gator Bull. But what do you think about this? The CSL do you buy into a van? I don't like it, but I kind of love it. I think it's like, I think it's fun. I think it's kind of awesome, though. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. I like the geographic element of it, you know, like we need to bring that back. We're still in too far. The thing about the geographic thing is like, if you put USC in Texas in the same division, that's not really what we're talking about. When we're talking about geographic, like, you know, restoring geographic integrity, it's like Texas versus Arkansas versus Oklahoma versus Texas A&M versus Baylor versus T.C. You would SMU whatever is not against like peeking out a few schools, uh, the big schools across the country. That's, I don't think 40 is enough. Like what I enjoy about college football is that there's a flavor for everybody, man, you know. 50 or 60. I don't know. I feel like 138 is great. I don't know. I mean, I think some schools probably should drop because they probably, like they're not serious or they don't have the money or whatever. I think some school, but I feel like if you want to be an FBS, you should be an FBS and they should work around that, but, you know, but I do like the idea of there being what you call it, relegation and college football. Yeah. That's, that's kind of cool to me. That's one of the, my, that's one of my kind of favorite quirks about the European soccer thing is that like you have to be made for a good, uh, like a good storyline on 10 last or two that you have to be good enough to play at this particular level. And then they can kick you back down and you got to play to get back up there too. It would be, it would just be so interesting to see a team, see a team be really bad one year and then, you know, then play in, in, in, in FCS football after that, man, you know, what? No, nobody. Yeah. Like South Carolina this year is playing firm and, and playing, you know, all these different schools. Nobody's going to agree to that because they want their financial guarantees, man. Like, I mean, that's the thing. It's like, I don't, nobody's going to agree to that because they know that it could be them one year, you know? Yeah. But we've seen it. I mean, in the Premier League, Lester City comes out of nowhere. I don't want to shut that Premier League shit, man. I know people are fascinated with European soccer or whatever, whatever. I mean, I just, I'm sure it's love. I'm sure it's exciting. And if I can, if you, if you, you would call it European football, yeah, European football, you know, I said, when I don't know disrespect to the world, lead to me, I, my boy, Ramon Flanagan played in Germany, you know, Samson, people have been, so, when you say, so then I guess you're a blue bobby, why do you have such, uh, such animus like, wow, I don't fucking watch that fucking dumb ass soccer shit. Oh, no, I'm just like, people are so fascinated. Now, I do think that there's some things that they do, like not having a salary cap. No, I'm with that, you know, I'm saying to play it, but like the relegation and promotion and stuff, like I just don't, you know, I mean, people, it gives you something to pull for even if you're out of it at the end of the year, being on loan. Yeah. And being on loan is wild. Transferred like loan, yeah, you think you don't like, you don't like Joe, Joe, you do you? Are you a soccer fan? Oh, I love international soccer. I watched every people thought the World Cup final was boring and I thought it was fascinating. Like I zero, zero game in an international soccer game does not bother me. I think it's great because the tension rises with every minute, but I don't, I don't have the energy for that primarily year, you know, I'll, you know, watch the Champions League. Of course. I don't want to know that shit, man. Real Madrid is not, is not, that's not primarily, was that insulin scum? Oh, what? What? I mean, e-bro, what's going on? They're all in their own leagues and then the Champions League, they all play each other. Yeah. So that's fun. All right. I'm sure it's interesting. Next up, Austin for Brooklyn, he said two things got me into college football last season, the ESP or the EA sports college football video game shouted them for sponsoring it also. This awesome show. He said, as a new fan, what I've been shocked by is that there was ever a time when national champions were decided by anything other than a bracketed playoff, especially considering that the BCS era predated this recent super conference era. It seems like the FBS once had so many competitive conferences that the most obvious way to crown a national champion would have been to have a playoffs based on conference winners similar to how the MLB postseason is based on division winners. It's impossible to do this now with two and a half power conferences remaining. He said, sorry, Joel, also sorry to me as well. I think here's my question as the big wigs tinker with the playoff each year. How likely is it that will someday have qualifying rules for conference champions that encourage the best of the power for to break off into smaller power conferences to increase their chances of playing for a national championship. In other words, could they could they're realistically coming day when the CFP committee comes up with an automatic qualifier rule for enough conference champions that schools wind up creating smaller, more competitive conferences to give themselves a better chance at making the playoff. I know there were buys for high ranked conference chance before, but what I'm suggesting here is a playoff where those teams make up the majority of the brackets say six to eight conference champs rather than just one third of it. Joel, did you get that? And do you have an answer? That's a lot to remember. So it is awesome for Brooklyn. He's really he's really kind of this guy as a fucking genius. Yeah. Well, my thing is I'm just like, why would Fox and Fox sports and ESPN agree to that? Yeah, it's going to be. That works. And as long as they're the people that run all this, they're the reason whenever teams are moving, it's TV is behind it. And they're not going to agree to that. They don't want that. Like that wouldn't that would do nothing for them. So I don't think it'll happen. I think what you've come up with is very interesting Austin in Brooklyn, but I just don't think it's I mean, Van, you don't think it's not like look, if this was purely about competition, which is not, and it's not in any sport, by the way, life is about purely, purely about competition. You don't add a game to the NFL schedule, a game that's going to increase the chance of injuries. It's about money and you want competition to be consistent enough in all of these sports that that undergirds the endeavor of the making of the bread. For this idea, if purely about competition, probably makes a lot of sense. But the TV stuff is selling the culture back to the college football fan. And in order to do that, you have to have some semblance of regularity. That idea, why like really, really, really inventive doesn't have that. Yeah. So I like the question though. I like the thought process. Think it outside the box. We like it. Yeah. Next up Napoleon from Georgia says why doesn't West Virginia quarterback Pat White get more respect as an all-time great quarterback He was a four-year starter went 35 and eight and was a perfect four-no in bull games What do you guys think of him Joe? I'll go to you first more respect for Pat White I mean, I don't know what we supposed to do like I mean, I think that he was a great character Well, we talked about the best number five last week Pat White wasn't thrown out as one To maybe it's I mean, I think James Winston was also five - and he didn't his name didn't make it either Right. Yeah, and James was my God James was was maybe the best red shirt freshman quarterback all time, you know I mean, I'm I'm Pat White was really good, man But you know what happens and I think this is just the way we do football Pat White did not have a great NFL career like and barely got his chance and so then One of seven players that have 200 yards passing and 200 yards rushing in a game Yeah, man people I maybe I don't know if it's that he was a generation ahead for football or whatever Well, you didn't and so like and when that happens quarterbacks sort of diminishing the eyes of people for whatever reason like they never It doesn't hold like I mean Maybe the people in the college town will still think of him in the same way I'm sure Morgan town Pat White can do whatever you want But the rest of us is like, well, yeah, man He was really good in West Virginia, and that's good for y'all, but like I don't where am I supposed to put him, you know? So he is first in Russian yards in the season by West Virginia quarterback 1300 2007 second in Russian yards in the season by West Virginia quarterback third first tied in Russian touchdowns in the season in West Virginia history second most Russian yards by freshman fourth in in total yards fourth in total season passing yards Second in passing efficiency fifth best in efficiency second in career efficiency second in completion presented second most in West Virginia history and passing touchdowns Second all time. I mean, he is just all over their Ruck record books career rushing stats first in NCAA career quarterback rushing list in yardage first in Big E's and West Virginia career rushing yardage record for quarterback 4,480 yards first in most 200 yard rushing Russian games by West Virginia and West Virginia history by quarterback. I mean these are Yeah, it's a bad motherfucker Yeah, so like I think part of this though is West Virginia at that time had this type of system and they were a good team and a competitive team and a team that a couple of years almost got there But I think if they would have guessed a bowl win. So he has big fee as a bowl win I think if they would have been a smidge more serious nationally That's not to take anything away from West Virginia's football program But if he would have done all of this and like Miami, we probably would be talking about him differently And also he lost his head coach rich ride left before Yeah, he had built yeah, he had built Stewart for his last two years So he had basically an interim coach as his head coach last two seasons actually went to his last game the monarchy carcar bowl Against North Carolina in 2009 and it was incredible to watch pat white in person Big fan of him It was a great game like why are you doing? Go watch the highlights of that game hockey nicks. I wanted the greatest People always talk about the 2010 monarchy carcare bowl. Let me see Was that 2009 Joel? Oh 2009 maybe it was 2010. I don't know. Right. It's 31. 30. It was a great game KJA's lead North Carolina down at the end. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm going to be in both games only David Green, Peyton Manning and David Humb Are the only quarterbacks to win three New Year's Day bowl games? Pat white's there. Yeah, Pat white's there And I think they're real thing that you're going to be here. He can't be in the college football Hall of Fame Because he never was an all-american, which is a really weird bar that they have set I think he should be in the Hall of Fame of College football. I don't know what that I mean If you think Diego Pavia should be in all thing, the college, West Virginia is like in all of it Virginia should be in there. They should get him a statue. I agree The rest of us all know what I mean, I remember major Harris, bruh when he led West Virginia to the fiesta bowl in 1988 against an undefeated Notre Dame He was the greatest quarterback in West Virginia history with it. I mean, I Yeah, he probably was so they should he he has that and that's great. I think is the Pat white's situation is that the the The passing statistics were never like crazy his if his best years 2007 That's a season where he threw for 1700 yards 14 touchdowns 14 in the receptions Um, and that year he runs for 1300 yards 6.8 yards of carry 14 touchdowns. This motherfucker was bad. I mean, I get if you played college football video game with your friends That's what we were doing. West Virginia was the top pick because you'd have Steve Slade Noelle divine pat white They were basically they were nice. By the way, just to let you guys know Be Georgia and Oklahoma in New Year's Day ball game. Yeah, they kicked their ass. And 11 and 1 Sugar Bowl victory In Pat white is being underrated, bro. He is underrated. The tailgator is right. Yeah, shout out to Napoleon for pointing that out Next up, Steven Plocker says if the whole ringer tailgate crew was on the repot your polls What movie would they pick for the episode? Joel, I'll go to you first since you have so many ideas Well, I do. I really do, but you got to pick one. All right. We're depends. This is about college football or is it about just any movie? You will pick a movie. Okay, I'm gonna do college football. I'm gonna do a regular movie The college football they haven't done necessary roughness yet It was a cool movie based out of Texas has Sinbad, Scott Bakula, Kathy island was one of the kickers That would be a fun movie to do a rewatch for wit and for any movie Man, I don't know dog, you know, I love school days Harlem nights. So shit like that. I probably would do one of those, you know All right, there you go van You're the actual rewatchable host here. What would you choose? So if it's a football movie I think we should do any given Sunday That did they do it? Yeah, I think I did I think I did it already because I was looking that up. I don't know if we did it Well, I don't I don't think they do it. I don't think they have no look Any given Sunday with Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan August 2017 Oh, yes, that's oh, yeah, she rewatches. Yeah, okay cool. I wasn't around there. All right cool. So then take that one off the board What football movie what I want for them to do On the rewatchables that they haven't done they probably done all the football movies They did the program. They did the program the program probably done it all besides that um just regular movie Uh, I want to do baby boy You're just a baby boy. You know what I'm saying like so I want to do baby boy shout-out to Logan Murdoch who is dying to do baby boy You can get him on the show Football movie. I would do the replacements Keanu Reeves. You did it. Mm-hmm. Bill did it Damn all right. Well, what about remember the time I looked at it in that movie I thought I almost certain yes because that would have been my choice to really almost certainly yes But I but I but I wasn't on the one remember the title. They did it. They did it Bill Simmons remember Brown and Shay Serrano Oh, wow, they have that done it because it doesn't They'll too. Denzel is one of the patron saints of the rewatchables. Yeah, so all right Those would be my two football movie picks singing throw those out And then my regular movie pick I actually pitched them rush hour Mm-hmm. I feel like rush hour is such a rewatchable movie But I think because of the people that made the movie it makes it hard because they're like ratners like a terrible guy or whatever So I think that's tough And if it wasn't rush hour, I would choose the prestige. I would choose the prestige But I'm sure they've done that too Must have I wasn't on it. See think you you guys should have looked at we could have everybody's all American Which is I think basically on the story of Billy canning not not basically like basically loosen on it, but shot in Baton Rouge Yeah, yeah, man. See that would be a good one, huh? You know what? You know, it's funny Billy said that we should do welcome on Roscoe Jenkins. Well, I'm not the biggest not the biggest fan of the movie Not the biggest fan of everybody's all American. It's not bad. But okay. This is the Baton Rouge classic and that that holds a lot of weight for me But not the biggest fan We pitch rewatchables welcome home Roscoe Jenkins as like a satellite opera. You don't know our feet. Yeah, no, no We do it on our feet. We did we just that would be interesting, you know They would be upset about I mean, I know everybody's gonna listen to me. I can't even get on the fucking last show so whatever You got on the show, Joel. Oh, I did I did it's true But again, I feel like I really get to get my shit off because it wasn't a movie. Yeah Joel, I produced the first however many rewatchables they did and then I'm never been on the show. So you're ahead of me I mean, that's just all right There you go Next up Robert hated the four nice name there With the crew be open to watching the documentary year of the bull on Miami Northwestern and doing a rewatchable style review on an episode before the season You know, I feel like I saw that somebody sit me uh Sit to me something like that. Uh, I feel like I saw that. Yeah, I like I like those rewatchables. I like those documentaries like that - I like Mochukamado. - Like Chukamado was in that, right? - Yeah, it was about college football and stuff like that. I like that. I wouldn't have any problem doing that. - Yeah. - I fucked with that, I fucked with that heavy man. Miami football culture, Florida high school football culture is just fucking fascinating. I get really serious. It matters down there in a way that's just different from any other place I've lived. And so yeah, I'm shocked I've not seen it yet. I have not seen it yet, but it's like one of the things. - It came out, I'm looking it up. It came out like early 2000s, right? - Yeah, it was a while ago. - Was Teddy Bridgewater on that team? - No, it's 2003. 2003 is when that came out. - But yeah, Northwestern high school has had so many stars come out, so. - Yeah, I interviewed Luke over there when he was the defensive coordinator in Miami Northwestern. - Luke. Luke dances, all right? - Okay. - Shout out. - Love that, yeah, great point. Next up, Patrick Long said, first and foremost, raise the roof. Raise the roof of Patrick. - Raise the roof of that? - Yeah, what's up? - Shout out to Patrick. He said, hey, I was born and raised in Palo Alto, 1989 until about 2015 went to Palo Alto high school the whole nine yards. I have to know what Joel was doing in Palo Alto. Where were you working? Where did you live? What restaurants did you like? What gym did you go to? Were you a nut house or a nola guy? - Wow. - Please let me know, Patrick. - Shout out, Patrick. I moved out there 'cause my wife got the JSK Fellowship at Stanford, and my editor, the great Mark Shoves, was gracious enough to allow me to move out to the bay because today she wouldn't go if I didn't come with her. - I said, we could do the long distance thing. I'll be in DC, you be in Palo Alto's only one year. - No, she's not trying to do that. - She's like, no, you better come on. - You better come on. - You knew it, dude. - She knew that. - Yeah. - So I was, man, I love Palo Alto. My best friend played at Stanford in the late 90s at the time. And I visited him in the summer of '97. So the first time I'd ever been to Cali. And I went out there again when he graduated in 2001. I actually graduated with Chelsea Clinton. I was on the same field with her. Bill and Bill-- - Wow, Rush Limbaugh is an enemy. - Yeah, man. - Yeah, man, yeah, I would never be just fuck with him. We limbaugh people and things like that. No, that wouldn't be me. - But so, yes, I was out there, dawg. It was beautiful. So I love Palo Alto. And yes, I got to work from the San Francisco office in Buzzfeed. I work for Buzzfeed at the time. And, man, so this guy will know. I lived in College Terrace, so I lived like a block over from Stanford's campus. And, man, I just missed that place so much. It had a 99 walk score, dawg. I could go to anything. And it was always the weather was so amazing, bro. I missed that all the time. - And yeah, Joe, could you do his favorite? Could you bust a wrap right now about Palo Alto? - Man, coming down, Palo Alto, I don't know, I don't know. (laughing) - Joe, you didn't give that any effort. - Yeah, I didn't try, Joe. - I did watch it, man, coming down, boy, coming through. Me and my niggas go to El Camino. - No, I don't know. - Yeah, I don't. - You just started off as part of it. - I was gonna go. - Yeah. - Yeah, all right. - All right, so there you go. Joe's Palo Alto experience, we love that. Here we go, Jack Larson from Minneapolis. He said, Joel, you said that you weren't a star here, Joel. You got a lot of fans here. My question is for Joel, I would like to know, his actual top five favorite cities in America, because almost any time a random city or college town comes up to him, it was been there and seems to think very highly of it. He's got about 30 cities in his top 10, according to my ranking so far. So I would love for him to give us a definitive list of his favorite cities in America. Thank you. - Wow. - That's what you need to know, your top five. - All right, Jack. It's tough because it all changes depending on the point of your life. Some cities are better to live in when you're single, others are better to live in when you've got just a partner and no kids and then once you got a family is different. And I love everywhere. Like I spent like two weeks in Dothan, Alabama and I made friends and missed people from down there. So, but I'll give you five cities to live, five cities to visit, my favorite. Top five cities, Joel Anderson to live. Number one, Atlanta. Number two, Washington, DC. Number three, Chicago. Number four, Oakland. And number five, Los Angeles. - Mmm, that's a city that you refused to move to. - I was, no, I mean, they had asked me to move there in 2004, whenever I got this job, I probably would have been able to go. I would, because I was right there in California I could just go, it was going to right down the fire, but it didn't happen that way. And to visit, by the way, number one, Santa Barbara. - Beautiful. - Number two, Key West. Number three, Chicago and Summer. Number four, anyway, San Francisco, Marin County up. It's just gorgeous up there. The weather is great. - Yeah. - I got Merrill calls. - Merrill calls. - Yeah, a little chilly, but I'm fine with that. I'm good with it. And you said America, so I'm gonna say either Vancouver or Toronto for number five. - Vancouver is a lovely city. - Yeah. - I've heard number great things about it. - Well, like Vancouver is like a-- - Vancouver is, to me, under-discussed. - Yeah, man. It's just way out there. So people forget about it. - Honestly, the Pacific Northwest in general. It's beautiful. - Yes, beautiful, man. That climate is my shit, you know? - Yeah, I'm with you. I had never been up there until I, you know, you know, fell my fiancee and went up there a bunch. And now I'm a big fan. So shout out to all those cities that Joel loves. We're gonna take a quick break when we come back. There was a lot of tailgators that reached out with their thoughts and their rankings on the most attractive men. We had that conversation a couple of weeks ago. We will break down all of the gator's thoughts and we will do that right after the break. All right, coming back as promised, again, a lot of gators were very fascinated by this conversation. So I'm gonna run through just some of the gators that brought up names and we'll kind of, we'll do a download of whatever one was saying. So we'll start here, Eric Garcia. He gave his top three most attractive men. Gosling was number one Sterling K Brown, Edris Elba, those were his top three. I think that's a strong top three there. Travis Callis reached out. He said his most attractive man is Julio Rodriguez, star of the Seattle manor. So that was his pick. Yeah, Joe, Joe looked that up home run derby champion. I can see it. I can see it. I can see it. Okay, Paulie, one name Paulie came out. He said his top five is Paul Walker, any era, RIP. Me and Summer Holder, Lost Era, Chad Michael Murray, One Tree Hill era, Taylor Kish, Friday night lights era, Edris Elba, any era, any, my background is, I'm a straight white male, married with kids, but can appreciate a good-looking dude. I don't have to say that. Just, you know, I wouldn't, just do it right. Like, hey, get your shit off. You think you find, you find, and they go look good. Fuck it. Like the, that's it. Nigga look good. Julio Rodriguez. Julio Rodriguez, we can'ts person that I just looked up. And they go beautiful, bro. Very handsome man, bro, the fun, bro, look good. Nigga look good. Fuck it. Don't have to tell him straight. I got a family all that. I don't care about all of that. We don't need shout out to you. You look good. You know, you look good. You look good to you. That's good. That's good on you, bro. Fuck it. Next up. Vinnie said Jimmy Garoppolo. That was all he said in the email. He just said Jimmy Garoppolo. The thing about Jimmy Garoppolo, though, that you got to respect, is Jimmy Garoppolo actually uses his looks to his advantage. Jimmy Garoppolo, back in the day, you guys remember he was on a date with Kiera Mia. He went to Avril, Beverly Hills. Remember that? I get it. We got that story. Kiera Mia. Who is this? Kiera Mia. I don't know who that is. Like, look, look, look up. Kiera Mia. Look at him. Jimmy Garoppolo. Y'all remember that? Yeah. He was outside. Yeah, he was outside. Jimmy Garoppolo was doing this thing. You know? You know. You okay? Good will. I just love that he threatened Tom Brady by being so handsome. I think that that is enough to get him in the conversation. You know what I mean? He didn't bet it in Tom Brady. He didn't bet in Tom Brady yet. Not, yeah. It's Brady not on the list. Brett from Allentown said, hi, y'all, he's totally insane, but I always thought Antonio Brown was a handsome guy. Definitely fertile too. Love the show. It's about time for two episodes a week. So he threw Antonio Brown into the mix. You know, Joel shaking his head. He agrees. Antonio Brown in the conversation. He was a handsome guy. Yeah, you're looking. Yeah. Handsome guy. Nick from Ann Harbor said, Shamar Moore nearly broke up my household. My mom let it be known that she thought he was fine as hell in front of my dad during the Medea movie. For my money, I think I'll take Jalen Hertz and his pirate vibe though. My tailgate question links back to Van's brother's question from last year that wasn't fully addressed. How do we feel about male nipples as an erogenous zone for men? I mean, if you like it, you didn't lean into it. You know, if you like a little nipple play, you like it, then lean into it. But the thing is, don't let something feel good to you. And then have somebody else tell you amongst consenting adults, I should say. And let somebody else tell you that you can't do it. If you like your nipples being a little licked or flicked, then get it, get it going, bro. I can't believe women like it, man. It's all uncomfortable. Do you like the nipple situation? I don't, but you know, shout out to those that do. I give them credit. Ryan Day, one of those guys. Speaking of Ryan, this is Ryan. He just gave one name, just Ryan. And the headline of his email was Joel has ADHD. He starts the email by saying Jude Bellingham, Joel is right. So he confirms that Joel is correct about Jude Bellingham being the most handsome guy. He said my new favorite Instagram is when a video pops up my feet of a generally unknown standup comic. It always has followed by Joel Anderson. Interesting. It's not usually comics with me. - They usually costumes with me, even. - Yeah, what do you all follow? - What do you all follow? - What do you say? - Pop some, pop some, you know what we're talking about? - What do you say about that? - Like, you can look at that. You can look at my cast, see what's up. - He says, I have ADHD in Stodas Joel. A few of the ADHD behaviors I've noticed from Joel, justice sensitivity. People with ADHD often exhibit high, justice sensitivity, a deep emotional and philosophical distress triggered by perceived unfairness and equality or broken rules. Number two, arguing with strangers online. For those with ADHD, arguing online is often an impulsive dopamine seeking behavior. The ADHD brain craves stimulation and the high emotion in the fast-paced nature of digital conflict. Number three, overexplaining. ADHD overexplaining is the compulsion to provide excessive context. Justifications are detailed reasoning far beyond what a situation requires. And then he follows it up at the end. ADHD and black individuals is insanely underdiagnosed because America. Anyways, even in this, even if this isn't right on the pod, I hope that this information is passed on to Joel, so he can understand the behavior better. I know understanding has helped me a lot. Shout out to Ryan. - Who would raise a roof for Ryan? - Who would raise a roof for Ryan for the cast? - I'd never, ever, ever realize about justice sensitivity. Intense overwhelming rate loss of fairness because of emotional hyperreactivity and difficulty regulating responses. Those with ADHD often perceive and deeply agonized over inequities directed at themselves while moral outrage, rumination and emotional exhaustion. Damn, heightened threat detection. And ADHD impacted the middle of fires more intensely on fairness is often processed by the brain as a threat to personal safety or fundamental values resulted in visceral fight or flight response. - This is you, Joel. - We says hyper empathy. So you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, I'm glad. - Joel was not bad. He just said that. - He's not bad. - I mean, it's probably explosive. - Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Rejection-sensitive dysphoria. With justice sensitivity entwines with RSD, perceived unfairness or criticism can trigger immediately. - What are you reading? - No, this is, he wrote this out. - Come on, bro. - Ryan wrote this out. - Oh, genius, bro. - No, he's not. I mean, I know I have ADHD. - He's trying. - I take medication for it every day. - Oh, so you, okay. - So you have? - Yeah, I have it, yeah. - So he's right. - Oh, he was right. Yeah, I take, I take methylphenidate every day in the morning. - Methylphenidate. - Yeah, sometimes I take-- - What the fuck is that? - Sometimes I take more. That's what I take from my shit, man. - Sometimes I take-- - I take all the ADHD too. - Wait a minute. - I know. - Wait a minute. - I had to take all kinds of-- - You take, it's riddling, you take riddling. - Yeah. - I have to take all kinds of different shit. - Joe, hold on for a second. Joe, you're glib. You don't even know what riddling is, Joe. You know what riddling is? You even know what riddling is, Joe. - Yeah, dude, wait, wait a minute. Hold on, what are you talking about? I do know what riddling is. - Joe, Joe, you're glib. You're glib, Joe. - I'm glib. - What is it? What are you trying to say? - Nobody gets it? Nobody understands it. - Mr. Joe. - Nobody remembers? - It's Tom Cruise. - Thank you, Billy. Billy from what? - Thank you, Billy. Is Tom Cruise, are you a Matt Lauer about riddling? - Oh, really? - Yeah. - Oh, shit the fuck up. - You guys are. - Man, look. - That's when he was doing the couch tour, right? That's when he was jumping on couches. - That was more of the world's era, Tom Cruise. - I got to look at it. - So wait, does Tom not believe in it? - I think Tom is off it. - Tom believes in a lot of things. - Well, I would say that, yeah, I mean, a lot of people, my mom doesn't believe in it, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, oh, I was like, oh, that's why I never studied in college. And one day I was like, oh, I never studied in college. I only studied the last week of school for finals. I could never. - I would call that procrastination. - I could never allow it. - No, but he has trouble. His executive function is not regular. - He's also touching the whole time, so. - That is sure. - He's taking it, yeah. - He's getting concussed every day. - What's the executive function? He needs the deadline to initiate. - It's right, I'm a deadlocker. And I read everything, I read everything, but what I was supposed to read to at school. And I was just, and I was like, oh, when the therapist said it, I was like, oh, just put so much shit in perspective. I was just like, I'm thinking, oh, my life made so much more sense when I got diagnosed with it. But my mom is like, you had the HD boy, which is, you know, she's a medical professional, but I know it's tough for people to think. They just think, oh, Joel was lazy. He didn't apply himself in school, like he should have, he don't have a blood. But no, I really should not get on riddling. - Man, it feels good, man. It's better, dog. I mean, I had to go through several medications before I settled on that because some, you know, sometimes shit makes you depressed, or low, or tired, or whatever else. So it was so much different. - I took, I took, Vivance a little bit, and then I took, I can't remember the one after that. - Adderall? - Adderall. - Not Adderall. It was one after the Vivance. But this was fucking with me, bro. I'm making me headache in the evening, you know? - Yeah, it gives me headaches. - So I don't like, I resisted taking drugs for so long because I was like, I don't want anything altering my mood. - Yeah, you don't know all to the brain chemistry there. But yeah, nice note there, I'm trying to help out. - Thank you. - A genuine thank you from Joel. Next up, Jake Russell said, raise the roof from a day one gator. - Raise the roof. - Okay. - All right, we can do that a lot today, okay. - We gotta raise the roof for the gator. - Yeah, I mean, this is up here, you know? - You supposed to have the enthusiasm of raising the roof. - Yeah, Joel, why are you treating gators like you? - I've been doing my whole life. - No. - Like, they all here talking about the treatment cost full ball players and all of this stuff. Why are you doing this? - I'm treating them, I'm treating them like, tape sheets supporting nail lists. (laughing) - It's not nail lists, the ice bucket treatment. - You have to separate, you have to understand. You have to understand. Here's what Jake had to say. That's a lifelong Texan report, where I would love to hear Joel's commentary on some of the Texas schools from the micro perspective. Since the macro world, everyone has a different angle. Here's some of my perspectives from living here for so long. Texas, he says bigger than themselves and everyone considers them the powerhouse on the macro standpoint. I personally don't think about them very much because of how big it is. But of course, it gets tiring and obnoxious with the weird back seemingly every year. Texas Tech was even hateable. Before the source of the situation, it feels as if they're red headed step child. As if they're the red headed step child, not being Texas or A&M despite being in flat Lubbock and also tries to be the chief South and claim the homes to cling to some sort of relevance. Well, this guy does not like Texas Tech. A&M, he says probably more angry at Texas than Texas is more angry at them and exhibits the most cult-like college football behavior in the state. Baylor, Colt, if Colt was run by the Baptist Church and somehow got dirty chip and Joe Animal funneled into it to put Shipwrap in Waco, TCU, Rich Cowboys but Fort Worth is not as corporate as Dallas. SMU, Rich Cowboys living in a place more corporate. Texas State, the party goers not able to get into Texas and is what Austin thinks it is. North Texas jazz musicians and he follows it up, raise the roof, Jake from Fort Worth, do you agree, Joel? - Yeah, he's definitely right about Texas State. And about it being with Austin and thinks it still is. And it's gonna come up there too, my best friend, man. His two daughters are gonna be going to school there in the fall and that's where he went. And I spent like a fourth of my college weekends down to San Marcos, man. Like San Marcos was a lot of fun. - It'd be TSU guy. - It'd be. With those, this is SWT Southwest Texas State, SWT, S U guy. But you don't call it that no more, they call it Texas State. I had a great time there. Well, the other thing I was gonna say, man, Baylor is a sad place to meet dog. There's some weird, bad shit that has gone down there and you can fill it in the air when you're on campus. I never understood how people, how Waco has become a place that people wanna go because that is a weird fucking place. - To put my house people. - Yeah, man. I mean. - To fill my house, people changed Waco. And what up all Waco was was the Branch Divideon. - Branch Divideon. - Yeah. - It was like, yeah, Colton. - It was like, yeah, Colton changed Waco, bro. - Yeah. - Yeah. - 'Cause I gotta say it, I'm not bullshitting it. - I'm not bullshitting it. - Baylor, Baylor won the national championship in basketball. - Yeah, yeah. - Man, I mean, dog, the dinner he murdered. Dog, like the art browse rape factory, they had a motorcycle gang shoot out in Waco once upon a time. - You remember that? You guys remember hearing about that shit? - Yeah. - It's just a weird place. I would, I, you know, my cousin went to Baylor so whatever, but I just kinda, and the one thing I have to say, my wife wants to describe, and as a camp, a farm, there's an office park on a farm, you know what I'm saying? This is very his way out there. She did not, my wife is a coastal elite. She does not like the middle part of the country very much. - We know. A&M, I feel like if they didn't have the weird, what are those called? The cheer, not, they're not cheerleaders, but like-- - Yeah, the yell leaders. - Yeah, the yell leaders. Like I think that's what really hurts them as far as a national perspective. - It is a weird place, but I will say this. A&M are really like, it's actually can be really fun. Aggies can be really delightful when you down there. It's just funny because they're like the punch line of the state, right? And so like I could understand that, like for all their wealth and influence, there's still sort of the punch line of Texas, but I like going to Kyle Phil, man, it's pretty cool. They had some good, the Southwest Black leadership conferences in my freshman year. I had fun at that, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, shout out College Station in Texas College Towns. - Also Texas State in the Pac-12 now. So like they're gonna have more relevance. - Yeah, man. - I want to give them some love. - Talk them out. - This is from Jeff. Jeff said Houston listener here, shout out to Jeff. I know Joel was a proud, straight Jesuit guy, and I'd figured I'd represent the other side of the town as a St. John's alone, my question. What's the most quintessentially Houston thing that people who didn't grow up there will never fully understand? Could be a food, a place, a weather phenomenon, a sports memory, or just a specific experience that immediately tells you someone is from Houston. - Wow. So, I think how nice and chill and cool we are, despite the chip we have on our shoulders. I'll admit that about Houston. - Van, I'm gonna have to get your take home. - We're the fourth largest city in the country, and I feel like we don't get any other respect. The country, a city that large gets. It was a joke when I was at the Associated Press that all the riders in Houston would put in the nation's fourth largest city, almost as a way to remind people, like you know what I'm like, we got like shit going on down here. But, so we do have a chip on our shoulders. - Interesting. - But, do you blame Dallas for that? - I feel like Dallas's gonna take this thunder away a little bit, but when you come to Houston bro, we are the chillest motherfuckers ever dog. People like coming to chill in Houston. You know, people come down to Texas to Houston to floss, smoke, drink, go out barbecue. - Shout out to the Latinos for making it a cool place. - Yeah. - And the black folks too. - And the black folks, yeah right, we share the city. We share the city. It's a cultural crossroads. - Really? - Yeah, cultural crossroads. Yeah, Billy. - Right through your white team. - Yeah, we thought it was gonna be long, yeah. - The real community. - It's about a percent of Houston. - And the black people too. Also, don't forget that there's probably some Afro-Latinos among that number. So, man, before you forget, don't do that. - No, it isn't. If my brother said, man, shout out to the people down there. Those are probably Mexicans, bro. - Okay. - Like, so shout out to all my Mexican brothers and sisters down there. - Yeah, man, shout out to them. That's right. Shout out. - Yeah, shout out. - We share, we share, we share Houston is a, we're a very culturally diverse city. The most diverse city in the country is we always like to remind people. - Yeah, and the fourth largest. - And the fourth largest. - Any thoughts on Houston that Joe may be missed out on? - Houston is cool to go to, but the thing about Houston though, Houston got a lot of culture, but it does feel like Houston culture, besides the hip hop, which is like, Houston's one of the most important hip hop cities. - DJ's group. - Like it's one of the most important- - Get all the ways in the country. - Yeah, all of that stuff. It's like legitimately one of the most important hip hop cities in the country. It does feel like parts of Houston's culture sometimes are remnants of other parts of the country. Like it's a place where other people settle, I'm just being for real. - Oh, okay. - So you don't meet a lot of people in Houston that be like my people from Louisiana. My people from here, my people from there, my people from there. And other- - Oh, yeah. - A bunch of folks are from Louisiana. - Yeah, 'cause that's all shit. And L.A. and L.A. is that same way. - Yeah. - L.A. also has like Hollywood. So Hollywood kind of like takes that out of there. If you were to, plus Houston's industry, like Joe was talking about, Houston's industry is like oil. And so for a big city- - He's an oiler, right? - So for like oil and petrol can for a big city, you normally have to have something a little bit more glossy. That's associated with the city. New York is finance and Broadway. And like all of that stuff, L.A. is Hollywood. Like all of that shit is going on. Like even if you were talking about like oil people and shit like that, like that type of Texas shit, people associate Dallas more with that. When Houston actually has a little bit more of that then Dallas. So if you are black, I think Houston has an incredible identity, an incredible identity. But outside of black people, I feel like the overall American cultural glitz and glamour Houston don't have that. - Yeah, well, no, I mean, the thing I always say, and I was offended by it first, people would be like, man, Houston's ugly. Houston's an ugly city. I was like, you know what? We are, we're just an ugly city, man. - Yeah. - We're really beautiful city. - We don't have any zoning laws. So they throw shit up next to the shit. I mean, it's just a wild ass city, but it's just like, it's cool. Like you say, you go down there, you can have a good time. We are very friendly people, and we're very welcoming. We want people to do, you know, to come down to New York. - Very friendly, and they'll also, they'll kill you. - No. - Let's be honest. - I mean, that's, I mean, that, that is, the very friendly person, you know, they'll kill you. - Yeah. - That's the sound. - That's the sound. - Yeah, yeah, I agree. All right, last one, Drew from Atlanta. Again, it's rig or [email protected]. If you keep sending in and we're gonna do some more, just kind of feedback from the tailgators. But Drew from Atlanta said, big fan of the show, and y'all, I was driving the other day. And Lionel Richie's banger all night long came on. And the second line of the song, he says, quote, "Rays the Roof." I believe the song was from 1984. So it seems like Lionel invented "Rays the Roof" about 12 years before Joe did. Is it possible, Joe plagiarized the great- - Billy Richie. - Come on, Billy. - Yeah, Billy, we need you for this. - Yeah, like- - Drew from Atlanta with some investigating. - I'm Joe. - Everybody, everybody. Everybody wants to undermine me. I'm sure that collection of words has been put together. Does he do "Rays the Roof" in the video? - No, 'cause I've seen the video a bunch of times. He doesn't do that. - I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to watch it like this. - Yeah, I'm gonna watch it right now. - I think Leo Roshan, do you know who Leo Roshan is? I feel like Leo. - Like, of course. - Yeah, of course you do, man. - Well, we're gonna watch the video. - We're gonna watch the video. - Yeah, of course. - Yeah, of course, we're gonna watch the video. We're gonna see if he raises the roof. - They don't know if sunshine is, that's sad. - But 12 years before, Jill. - Was she in a, was she raised the roof and have some fun? - No. - Fuck you, liar. - It was in the context too. - I mean, I was completely in context as well. Joe, what you have to say for yourself? - No, I mean, again, people try to undermine. I'm sure those words have been used in combination together. But, sorry, I invented it. I did it. - Hold on for a second. Hold on for a second. I got a picture, I got a picture, hold on, hold on. I got a picture to put, like, I got a picture to put in the chat. I can make a argument that I just lit this up, hold on, hold on. I can make a argument that right here. - I gotta go see my kids now. - Hold on. - Hey, look at this. Look at that. - Look at that, look at that. - Look at that. - Look at the chat. That's not a razor. - Look at that. - Look at the chat. - Yeah. - That's not razor. His arms aren't even above his shoulder. His hands aren't even at his shoulder. - I know, but he's on his way to do it. - He's got his arms, like, just got paid by Johnny Kemp. They look more like that than razor. - Just got paid, that's a fucking thing. - Yeah, that's what it looks like. He do it more like that. - Nah, bro. - Whatever. I mean, again, people want to undermine. I get it. I understand. I know people want to take that from me. You just can't, though, though. It's mine. - Mm-hmm. - Tom. - From Atlanta, trying to expose the story. - Just, I mean, just, that's some hate of shit, though. I just said Atlanta was my face-- - What would it be, "Hose shit," you think? - Yeah, I don't see his "Hose shit." - Joel, you're a fairly accomplished person. You invented "Rays the Roof" fastest 10-year-olds at the time in America. - Yeah. - I wish it was spreading beyond my school. - Okay, so good. So what would you say, like, your top three proudest life achievements since you've accomplished so much? - I know he's gonna say, watch. - Right. - Man, that's tough. Too many to choose from. - I don't know. My kids, that's my-- - Oh, no. - That doesn't count. - I love that. - Throw that at him. - Yeah, you're such a bullshit, bro. - Future cop. - Okay, you know what I mean. - Yeah, law and order, Joel. - Yeah, "Rays and the Future." - Why don't you try to police the cop? Why don't you try to police the cop? - You've police or the Washington Capitol police. - Why don't you try to police? - There's a lot of cops. - Why cop? - I think Capitol police. - The Washington Capitol police is like that now. They're out there, making sure the next day-- - He just, people, my son just wants to argue in these four years old. This is a very fun time for him to just drink daddy. Don't know what the fuck he's talking about. - Just like Drew from Atlanta. - Yeah, I mean Drew's awesome bullshit, dog. I'm sorry. - He's a fan, Joel. - That was a bullshit, no. I mean, you know, don't come here doing that shit, dog. You know, anyway. - Yeah, well, I don't know. - Is it how shit to claim that you invented something you clearly stole from other people? - I did not steal that from anybody, bro. - Is it how shit to act like you made some shit up? - Do you know? - Start a whole fucking movement around it. And then for us to find out that one of our true luminaries, Lionel Richie, who has helped and changed so many lives. - We are the world. - We are the world. You know how important a man Lionel Richie is? He gave us the call Richie, you know what's funny? Great, you know what's funny? People say, you know who's actually underrated? Lionel Richie is underrated. But everything that Lionel Richie has done, hitmaker still looks amazing. Records, we are the world, American Idol, Lionel Richie. - Mega. - Raise the roof for Lionel Richie. - Yeah, let's raise the roof. - Right now, the funny thing about Lionel Richie, in my house, I had to raise the roof. In my house, Lionel Richie was always knowing it, no, just get the fuck out of here. All right, all right. All right. In my house-- - Do we change it at the start of the show where you shout out loud? - In my own, when we raise the roof, we gonna raise the roof for a true Pioneer, Lionel Richie, who actually underrated. - All right, well, we gotta go do the ALS challenge. (laughing) Don't be so excited. We gotta go get this fun. - I'm the one who wants to win. - Well, there you have it. First edition of the tail bag. Again, when we come back next week, we have August, which is, it's officially college football season, preseason. We got some fun awards, some fun things to discuss. 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