A Rewatchables Summer Mailbag!

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The next three movies we're going to do are going to be, get ready, Single White Female, Hand That Rocks the Cradle, and The Good Son. And all of those movies are on Netflix, so you can watch them. First podcast is going to be going up on Monday. What you're about to see is a mailbag. It's the Rewatchables presented by FanDuel Predicts. You can predict the summer soccer showcase. With FanDuel Predicts. From the opening game to the final whistle, stay locked in. Sign up now for your $25 bonus on FanDuel Predicts. Go to FanDuel.com slash predicts to sign up. Offered by FanDuel Prediction Markets LLC, a registered futures commission merchant. 18 plus restrictions apply. See terms at FanDuel.com slash predicts slash bonus dash offer dash terms. All right. Evergreen Summer Mailbag. Craig Horlbeck's here, our producer. Sometimes on the pod. Chris Ryan, CR, the legend. I gave you no prep at all. None. We have some listener mailbag questions. Do you like when the no prep happens or you want the prep? If you want us to provide a list, sometimes it's nice. But otherwise, no, we can go. We can improvise it. Okay. This is from Gerard. I want to nominate a new Rewatchables category. The Danny McBride Award for Best Character Entrance. Within a minute, you understand exactly who this guy is, why he's a problem, and why the movie went up a level. The criteria. Immediate oh hell yeah for oh no reaction. You cannot look away. You know, everything you need to know about the character. Instantly alerts you that you may have a who won the movie or Dion Waiters Award contender. On your hand. Danny McBride has been a category name before. Yeah, he already has a category, but I don't mind this. Yeah. This is based on his introduction to This is the End, right? Well, I was thinking we just did Animal House and Bluto the first time you see him is a good intro. But there's really is an art to the entrance. Or yeah, like Will Ferrell and Wedding Crashers coming down the stairs. I would say Alec Baldwin and Glenn Gary is another one. Yeah. I think there's some some life to this one. The best entrance. But I think. I think we already have a McBride category, so I could either move it or come up with a different entrance. Like what does Mason Miller walk out to? Is it corn? It is corn. Yeah. Oh, like the Myron Rivera enters Sandman for best entrance. Some cue enters Sandman. The closer is here. Yeah, that's pretty good. I had a couple ones that I liked from over the years that I just the iconic ones from my favorite movies. Reggie Hammond. First time you see him in 48 hours. He's singing police. Todd Parker and Boogie Nights. Oh, yeah. When he comes into the party and I forget what song they're playing, but it does like the zoom in on him and it's like Todd Parker. And then Lester Bangs was the other great one. For almost famous. The first time he's doing Iggy Pop. Amen. Really hard to just come in 25, 30 minutes into a movie and just take it over. When does Lecter show up in Silas? That's another half an hour and 25 minutes in. I think this is a category. Yeah, it's good. It's at least a. Flex. This is from Michael in Louisville. Love the pod. I'm getting married this fall. My wife asked that we have our childhood priest perform the ceremony. Imagine my surprise when I found out that this man was none other than Father Wayne Jenkins. That's his name. His name is Wayne Jenkins. And then he writes in all caps. Damn, I didn't know I was dealing with super priest. We are going to be experiencing the joys of the sacrament. For a long fucking time, big boy. I didn't know we had fucking Damien Karras over here. There's a good priest work right there. Wayne is like the actual Wayne, I think, is up for parole soon. Oh, really? He's in jail. Yeah. Father Wayne Jenkins. Is that a good or a bad sign for the wedding? I think it's great to have a happy marriage. Congratulations. Also, I hope at least five people attending the wedding are making Wayne Jenkins. Yeah, it'd be great if like, does anyone have any, like, a reason why these two should not be wedding? They're like, God damn, I didn't know we were asking for approval. Oh, man, a motherfucking brick. This is from Pete D. He listens to all the rewatchable pods, thinks there's some trends that have emerged, including, he says, one of my favorites is the periodic discussion about renaming Dion waiters. This comes up a few times a year when a Dion candidate has an especially strong performance. Oh, and it's like we could rename this after. Walken and Paul Baldwin. Gary Hartman. And so I married an ax murderer. And then he writes, the discussion always goes something like this bill. Maybe we should think about renaming the award after character X, everyone else. Character X was great, but I don't think we can rename it. There's something about Dion bill. Okay. I guess we'll keep it as the D and about three months later, the exact same discussion occurs. Um, in order of this, I suggest a new conditional award called the, we may need to rename the Dion Waiters Award. No, nevermind for an actor who gives such a great performance. The rewatchables team pretends to reconsider an award then decides against it. That's good. It's a higher level than the typical Dion reserved for only epic Dion performances. Um, he keeps going. It's like you're a Dion Waiters pro bowler. Yeah. It's like, maybe you've been Dion before. Like you've done too many, like Walken is Dion in multiple films. I think he's like that in true romance. He's like that in Paul. It's like a nomination. Um, Pete D says you could call it the Dion plus award and homage to Kendall Roy's ingenious land cruises pitch. Yeah, but that was good. The Dion plus. I like that. It's a, it sounds like we're spinning it off into a, I don't know. I'm going to check in on Dion. He's somebody who I imagine would have had a podcast by now. Yeah. Where is he? Like Terrence Ross is breaking down videos. Like where's the end? Frank M writes in. Hey gang. I think Craig gets hottest take by. Saying you can cut the hitchhiker scene and there's something about Mary. Sometimes he needs a shock collar. I checked with HR and we can't give you a shock. I also think this is a good opportunity for you to be like, I, I don't think the Horlbeck scale is representative of you as a film fan. I want to address this. I think we should retire this, the Horlbeck scale because the purpose of the, of the category is not to criticize good long movies. It's to celebrate good short movies. Yes. If I like a movie that's two hours and 15 minutes, I don't want to have to like feel forced to rip a scene out of it. It's just like, I think that the goal, I think you could, it's to appreciate a short movie. You should chime in when it's in the Horlbeck hall of fame. Sure. Yeah. We forgot to do it for animal house. Yeah. I mean, what was the animal house? Like an hour, hour 45. Well, yeah. It's like, if we're doing Dunkirk, I'm not going to be like, yeah, you can cut the hearty stuff. That's not the point of the, it's not my intention. Do we really need to be flying around? Yeah. Do you want to retire the Horlbeck scale? It's like if something about Mary is two hours and 10 minutes, but I like the movie, I don't think it's in the spirit of the category for me to feel like I got to remove a scene. Yeah. However, I do think like seven minute abs, eight minute abs, not the funniest joke in the world. I thought it was fucking hilarious. Really hot takes. Colin K writes in, he's been thinking about apex mountain. Yeah. And he decided most cities have a respective apex mountain that then that becomes the spiritual defining thing they're chasing. Like Chicago just wants it to be the mid nineties again so badly. Oh, like temporal apex mountain. So he listed a bunch of cities with what he thinks their apex mountain is. Okay. San Francisco. He said 2016. Well, it's not 2016. Okay. But like this. They lost. It'd be 2015. It's like 17 or 15. Wait, he's talking about like tech or is he talking about what it looks like in the movies? This is just, I'm just reading what he said. Okay. I mean, so I can't be right out of the gate, but I like the, there's a crumb here where, it's like, it's a kernel of saying like, actually apex mountain, San Francisco would be late seventies, early eighties. Right. So that would have, my argument would have been late seventies, like post dirty, hairy bullet. Yeah. And we're heading into, it's what's just Zodiac kind of goes back to. Yeah. But I guess you could make a case like as Steph and the words are taking off with the tech boom and the prices. Yeah. I mean, it might not have been the best, like San Francisco itself might not have been at its basic instinct is probably the happy medium between the two. I said, for me, it's like, I don't know. To me, it's '90s San Francisco. We talked about that in Basic Instinct. Mid-90s San Francisco was lights out. Yeah. Like, I would personally have that. You also can't say 2015-20. Because it wasn't even in San Francisco. The Warriors played at Oracle. Yeah. All right, so he's 0 for 1. Boston, 2004. I actually agree with this. Because of Sox? Sox. Patriots in full bloom. Fever pitch. Big Dig is done. Yeah. So, we have. Big Dig is done. Big Dig took 10 fucking years. Finished. The city was transformed. It just. All of a sudden. And, of course, I had moved by then. And every time I came back, I was like, how the fuck did we leave right before all this stuff happened? Big Dig is done so Jem can get back and forth from Charleston. Right. They never were able to escape that North End robbery. He has New York City, 1998. I don't know how he came up with that one. 98. It's interesting. Pre-911. Pre-911. Yankees going strong. Yeah. Knicks still in the mix. I personally would have gone mid-90s for New York for a variety of reasons. With the sports. And just. SNL's in a decent spot in the late 90s. SNL's coming back. I mean, I like early 2000s just because of the music. But you had 9-11 at that point. I know, but. That can't be Apex Mountain. I'm not saying it's Apex Mountain for, like, actual stuff. I just mean, like. And that's also when I was there, you know? So, I would say late 70s for New York. Warriors? With all the shit that was going. Yeah. Warriors. But you had SNL in full bloom. They're making all kinds of awesome movies. They're making all kinds of awesome movies there. The music scene has taken off. It's the center of the porn industry. Sure. Professional wrestling. We haven't moved west with our adult entertainment yet. I just feel like, even though I was a little scummy and grimy in New York, it was just crushing it. Yeah. Pre-Trump. Get a cab. Travis Bickle's your driver. Yeah. You know? Chicago, 96. I have no notes on that. That makes sense. It would be somewhere in the second Jordan. I spent some time there in 98. Everybody was super happy. Seattle? 1993, he says. I like it. Mm-hmm. Beginning of the grunge. Sean Kemp. Sonics are still there. Campbell Scott designing a super train. Ken Griffey's about to show up. Early tech rumblings. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'll save Philly for last. He is Pittsburgh is 1975. Just pro-Steelers. Sure. The two most interesting ones. He had Los Angeles, 1955. Isn't that like LA Confidential? Yeah. I thought that was. I don't know why he had that. I would have said mid-'80s for LA. Like with Hollywood. Yeah. I was going to say like Lakers, Hollywood. People moving here. Yeah. It was like the coolest place in the earth. And then he has 1983 for Philly. Well, that's Sixers. Phillies go to the World Series. Rocky Balboa. Right. The Phillies have just won. Well, they won in 80, but they lost the Orioles in 83. But you're in the middle of your Phillies run. Yeah. Eagles were in the Super Bowl in 80. Flyers good, then. It's after Broad Street Bullies, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I mean. 83 is out. Big five basketball popping off. Yeah. I was in kindergarten, so I don't have a picture-perfect memory. 83 seemed good. I had a couple ads. Hartford, 1988. ESPN's there starting to take off, and they still have the whale. The whalers. Oh, my God. And then I was trying to think the Apex Mountain for Vegas. And I think it's late 90s. Yeah. That's always true. Before it became commercialized. When it was still. There was a little bit underground. I would have loved to be there. The Mo Green era, that would have been good. Oh, yeah. Spangin' Cocktail Witch was too much. A Mo Green. I'm excited for feedback on that. And then to get. We have to ask what. So, he's saying it's like the actual. Just like where people. Because the reason it resonated with me. Like, if you could choose a year to live in the city, what year would it be? I would love to live in Milwaukee during like the Robin Yount era. Not the Dahmer era. No. No. But it seemed like pony bottles of Miller were everywhere, you know? Because Boston definitely was. 2004. That was the single year you would have wanted to live in Boston. Chris Arrington wants to know, is there a movie you haven't done yet for rewatchables because it's so un-PC you worry about backlash? And who would you want as co-hosts on that pod? So, really, Soul Man is Apex Mountain for this one. But I'm not against doing it. Blazing Saddles would be, I think, really hard to do. I don't know. I mean, Blazing Saddles was on Turner Classic Movies last night. Like, it's still, I think, regarded. Very well. What about Revenge of the Nerds? That was the other one I had. But I would do all three of those. So, I don't feel like there is an un-PC. You'd have to go into like. I mean, it's incredibly difficult to talk about Woody Allen's filmography and not address, like, the elephant in the room with him. And I think a lot of those movies, like, are hard to talk about. But I still really love Annie Hall. Like, I'd love to do Annie Hall on. There's a couple, like, the. A couple dark movies that probably aren't rewatchables. But, like, that Monica Bellucci movie and shit like that. Yeah. We would never do that. Well, we would never do that. Requiem for a Dream. No. Most rewatchable. This is a great one. Mike L. wrote this. My 72nd rewatch of Fargo gave me an idea. Do Peter Stormor's film TV characters have the weirdest resume of any actor in history? These are some of the things his characters have done. Murdered Steve Buscemi with an axe and stuffed him into a woodchopper. Eaten by a dinosaur. Got his ear bitten off by John Goodman. Helped Bruce Willis. Saved the world from an asteroid. Swapped out Tom Cruise's eyeballs. Directed multiple actual snuff films. And helped George Costanza move to Frogger without losing his high score. Can any actor challenge this? We don't have that anymore, you know? No one's doing stuff like that. It is honestly incredible. Incredible. Even without the snuff film, he still probably has the best one. I'm going to start thinking about this when we do, like, especially 90s movies where I'm like, you know, like, this guy's been in 13. Like, what were his jobs? Right. Yeah. I want to find out, like, what Cole Meany did besides being Con Air, you know? Oh, that's a good one. I had Madsen sliced off the ear and reservoir dogs of the cop. He buried the bride alive in Kill Bill. He unleashed a black mamba snake in Kill Bill 2. He killed a horny hot female alien in Species. And he beat up people with a baseball bat in Brasco. Pretty good resume. Not even close to Stormare. Kind of one note, though. Stormare's really riding all over the place. Stormare's replacing eyeballs. He's directing snuff films. Yeah. He's woodchippering people to death. Because it's like the not-quite-leading man, but can be in every kind of movie as a side character. And it's got to be something creative. Like, Cruise is just the best at everything he does. Like, best bartender, best pilot, best spy. That was pretty good. David Foster, probably not the songwriter, writes in, Given the Rewatchables often features movies frequently aired on TV back in the day, I'd like to suggest a new. Reflex category entitled, The Breakfast Club Real Long Inspection Award, Alternatively, the Die Hard 2 Yippee-Ki-Yay Mr. Falcon Award, Alternatively, the Big Lebowski Find a Stranger in the Ops Award for Did This Movie Have an Epic Profanity Replacement when aired on TV. Oh, interesting. So, Real Long Inspection was actually Hot Beef Injection, Yippee-Ki-Yay Motherfucker, you know that one. And then, Find a Stranger in the Ops Replaced. 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You know, like there's not a lot of like basic cable movie that show things that are actually racy at all. It's always like. No. My memory of this is actually like just like listening to the radio in my car and they have to like bleep out Eminem or something. Oh, like all at 50 Cent. Yeah. Right. Robert Calvin writes in, after listening to the Tropic Thunder episode, I think there should be an occasional category called the Joel Anderson I Prefer Welcome Home Roscoe Jenkins Award for is this movie still rewatchable? That was amazing. Joel rope-a-doped us. He said he loved Tropic Thunder and then it turned out he didn't. I still kind of enjoyed having that energy. There's a point in the pod where I think the three of us all like just sort of recede the platform to Joel. Yeah, we gave up. Kyle Potter. Craig, you're going to love this one. New flex category. The Michael Cera fucking pale 110 pounds hairless probably has a huge cock coked out of his mind award for excellence in portraying a fictionalized version of oneself. Oh, yeah. So it's basically like a self-D on waiters. Yeah. He votes for Keanu Reeves in Always Be My Maybe. John Malkovich would be John Malkovich and Neil Patrick Harris and Harold and Kumar. That's great. And then said it could be extended to fictionalized portrayals of others like Anna Faris. It's like actors willing to subvert their reputation in movies. So he suggested Anna Faris taking down Cameron Diaz in Lost in Transition could be adjacent. Okay. I like the playing yourself. Do you like the. I wonder if Julia Roberts in Ocean's Twelve pretending to be Julia Roberts actually counts. It's like Bob Saget in Entourage pretending to be like the biggest. The biggest asshole in the world. So I had Kareem in Airplane. Eminem in Funny People is a good one. I thought everybody loved Raymond. Bob Barker in Happy Gilmore. Lance Armstrong, Dodgeball. Julia Roberts, Malkovich. And then Johnny Chan in Rounders is a good one. Barker's a really good one. Sorry, John. I don't remember. I think that could be added to the flex though. I like it. 110 pounds soaking wet probably has a huge cock. Sean Donnelly writes, you guys were talking about making a dramatic version of There's Something About Mary. There kind of already is one. The 1984 neo-noir film Against All Odds. In it, LA Outlaws wide receiver Jeff Bridges, gangster James Woods, and Outlaws coach Alex Karras are all obsessed with the stunning Rachel Ward and drop everything to travel to Mexico to win her. Did you say LA Outlaw wide receiver Jeff Bridges? Yeah. Oh, Craig. This movie's amazing. Well, this is awesome. This is also where the Phil Collins song comes, right? Oh, yeah. This has one of the great car chases. Take a look at me now. Bridges plays like a washed up receiver. But yeah, these three people Against All Odds is the song. But yeah. He says it's a sports film, but I feel like the Farrelly brothers were aware of it. That's pretty interesting. It does get a little There's Something About Mary. Yeah. They're all like obsessed with her. Yeah. I hadn't even thought about that movie in a long time. It's great. It's a good It was on a long time. It's not good. It's very funny. I gotta admit, I may never have actually seen the movie. It's just that in the music video for Against All Odds, it's just footage from the movie and it's the whole story of the film. Rachel Ward. There's a good car chase in that movie, right? Really good car chase. Rachel Ward's thrown 102. I don't know Rachel Ward. What is Rachel Ward from? You should get to know her, Craig. Okay. Is that Taylor Hackford? Yeah. Okay. Mike from Western Mass said at the end of Dave, a movie that I'm ready to do the read Dave. Okay. Really love that movie. When did you do Dave? A long time ago. Dobbins? Yeah. Years ago. He says at the end, this is inside for people who love this movie, but how is Dwayne, the Ving Rhames character, not wearing a sweater vest in the last shot? Because there's a kitchen scene in the White House when Dave and Ving Rhames are kind of, they're talking, they're eating a sandwich and he says, you should wear a sweater vest. They look good on you. And Ving Rhames is like, really? And he's like, you could have brought that around. So he says that's a new category. The Dwayne Stevenson sweater vest movie. Missed opportunity award for a very small choice that would have made the movie better. I'm going to veto this, but I like the spirit of it. You like, why are you vetoing it? Just because you're like, that's too- I just think it would be too hard that he had to figure out. But I like the idea of it. It really would have been a good idea if he had a sweater vest. It's like loose threads. It's like, you shouldn't tie a knot on that one. Blair Symes from Chicago says, the rewatch of this is my favorite pod and the species episode is one of the best. All timer. What about the species award for the thing no one notices or questions during the first few viewings, but then you see it and can't unsee it? So he says, for him, it goes to the supposed evil alien plot to take over the world by breeding aliens with humans. How's this supposed to work? He says, Natasha Hentridge is half alien, but her kid would be quarter alien. Then it'd be eighth alien and so on. Eventually, human DNA is going to water down the alien DNA and you won't notice it. Humans down the road will just end up being 3% alien on their 23andMe test like they're 3% Irish. Plus, didn't those aliens send us to secret to unlimited energy as well as their DNA? They were good dudes. It's a decent point. Yeah. I don't know if the DNA would be strong enough that it wouldn't get watered down. You know? Well, there's also the Hentridge is going around killing guys who are diabetic. You know, like it's like you basically like winnow down the like, like most human beings have some frailty, some flaw with them. So then you're just talking about her breeding with like six guys after a while. I like the idea I was trying to think of other examples where when you've seen a movie too many times and then you realize a plot has just been completely ruined which basically is what's aged the worst or picking nits for us but that's that's a good one. It was the bad plan by the aliens. Yeah, it's like there should be a special like especially for ones that are like big movies for us like the thing I noticed on the 12th viewing of this movie. You know? When it's like why can't the aliens just come down to Earth in their natural form and just kill all the humans? Yeah, that could have been another move. Yeah, right, right. Why do they need to look like a human and seduce a human? It's like couldn't they just kill them? Zap them? Silence of the Lambs is a good one for this when they just have Lecter at the top floor with like one security guard and no cameras. And he's also bringing him pork chop, lamb chops and stuff. Yeah, and it's just and he asked for a second dinner and like boy that's weird. Like you see that enough times. What's the one we have for heat for this? I mean there's a lot of things in heat where it's like does this guy who's so disciplined really go back for wing grow? You know what I mean? Like he's like so free. He's at the airport. Mike Kaiser says that we missed a huge plot point in No Way Out. I'm glad people are listening to the library. I really liked No Way Out. I'd like to suggest you guys brand the Did This Movie Need a Better Ending category and make it the Tom Farrell single-handedly lost the Cold War award. Oh yeah. Which cost her when Gene Hackman's character it's like I'll give you anything you want. Why not just be like oh I control the defense secretary now. I own Gene Hackman. And then that could be the sequel. He just felt like he blew the opportunity. I'm going to keep an eye on this. I don't know if it's a category but I do like yeah he actually would have been better off just being like oh this is actually better from a Cold War leverage. Controlling it. The sequel. One Way Out. Jason Peters says this is a great one. Not Philadelphia Eagles tackle legend. No. Spinoff character you would green light for a new movie award. A character so interesting you'd watch a whole movie based on them and he mentions Baldwin and Glenn Gary but he came up with this because of Tom Cruise and Tropic Thunder could less gross when I've carried a movie. I say no. That's kind of yeah that'd be tough for an hour and a half. I did have a couple possibilities for this though. Dig him in The Departed. That was that could have been out for a while right? That could have been definitely been a sequel. Which one is Dig him in The Departed? Oh Walbert. Quint prequel we talked about when we did Jaws. Could have gone back maybe even gone back all the way to World War II there. My two favorites Dino Stormar second reference Dino Velvet 8mm 8mm prequel as he dives into the world of snuff films. Yeah. But then obviously the answer is Caruso in Proof of Life. We call it Stuff of Legends. Oh wow. Stuff of Legends the Proof of Life sequel. Dino on another case. Crow's not in it. Maybe he has a cameo. Maybe he just calls in but yeah Caruso's doing his second. I saw a randomly saw like a Russell Crowe press conference or podcast where he was taught Proof of Life came up and he was like my girlfriend at the time Meg Ryan and I was like yes. Oh wow. He admitted that? Yeah. Oh my god. That was on Front Street. Everybody knew that was happening. But she was married. They were like interesting. Abigail wants us to have a new category. Would this movie be better with Buffalo Bill or Little Bill? Couldn't quite get there but did think about it. I like it. Do you have a Little Bill impression ready to go? I think Little Bill I'm trying to think which one to do. I'm sorry my mind isn't on What does he say? Sorry my mind isn't on the protection of the film. Derek Lady we talked about worst movie athletes and he was outraged that we forgot about Matt Damon and Legend of Bagger Vance which Damon's talked about. He had to speed learn how to play golf in like two weeks and his swing is like really really bad. But then we got a bigger email from Mike Montre in 1998 I was an extra in the movie For Love of the Game. Cool. We got $50 a day it was November in the Bronx it was cold. Sam Raimi obviously wanted jackets off to display late summer baseball. Bronx natives grew tired of the request. Look closely winter jackets are in the background. Nights grew long and cold extras grew impatient and John C. Reilly couldn't catch or throw couldn't throw the ball back to the pitcher at all costume was dealing Reilly was fucking up takes left and right the extras had enough it was cold the jeers began escalated into you fucking suck Reilly Reilly had enough flipped out screaming at the extras let me do my job I do my fucking job. he couldn't do the job the next day his lighting double replaced him in all catching scenes Jesus and he's like how is that not your winner for worst actor as an athlete I would love to know which actor who had to play sports in a movie required the most training to actually be you know somewhat believable on screen one of my favorites for this is Rob Lowe didn't know how to skate before Young Bud really and they did this five week speed session with him and then he actually got like pretty good that would be a great documentary I would love to watch like Kevin Costner just has to go on the Haney Project before Tin Cup just to learn how to play golf right like I'm trying to think of what would be the thing what would be the athletic act that you feel like you could immediately go do and like plausibly do it on film right now I mean I think golf is easy because it doesn't require any like physical the problem with golf is that your swing always looks 20% more awkward and bad than you think it does yeah because in your mind you're like boy I'm Kepka and like and then you look at a video of yourself and you're like I look like I'm playing left handed what does that mean I think I could throw a fastball in a movie believably I was gonna say I think I could do Riley's job I mean it would be hard for me to get down in a squat for catching now but I felt pretty natural being behind the plate I was a pitcher growing up I think I could get away with it you have to be pretty uncoordinated to not be able to just catch Kevin Costner for three hours what about you you don't think you could conduct an offense and like white man can't jump two on two yeah basketball's hard basketball's hard basketball's hard because people especially if you play your shot's your shot so I always had a little bit of an unorthodox shot that would make it look like I didn't play but I did play so it's almost like you're better off learning from scratch but Snipes is a good example of they he was a good athlete that they taught to play basketball you know to mix results I was never a huge fan I think the toughest would be for me it would be tennis because I played tennis forever but my serve's weird so it would look like I've never played tennis before you'd have to get a lighting but I've been playing since I was 10 yeah I never like bring it back tennis is a good one I would love to see the training that went into filming challenges yes I think an underrated one for this is a track and field movie because you have to see yourself running well but to be like if you're Steve Prefontaine you have to have like basically no part of your body's moving as you're running but it has to seem like you're going fast which I think is really hard to do if they keep doing like weird live stunt things on Netflix they should have crud up race Lito now to see who was the faster Prefontaine dressed as with Prefontaine wigs this is a great one it's from Charles how do you and Kyle Brandt sleep at night knowing you failed to choose the Storm family portrait as the piece of memorabilia you'd keep from Heart to Kill in 1990 it's seen early in the movie right before Felicia Storm is brutally murdered during foreplay with Mason and before their son Sonny escapes see attached as penance please do an episode on Deadly Ground so he sent a picture and this is the Storm family photo I didn't notice it I apologize I know Kyle apologizes as well this is amazing I can't believe they did this I'll tell you what you guys should do by the way that's Sharon Stone I think to make up for this you should get those made into t-shirts and wear them the next time you and Kyle record I feel like Kyle is crazy enough and there's no football right now that he's gonna show up on a rewatchables with the Storm family portrait on there but you should do it for like a really serious movie for like Deer Hunter I'm wearing the Storm family Thomas Levy says how is this for a CR thanks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford hottest take buckle up CR are we sure Daniel Day-Lewis is in the acting version of James Harden come on he's never appeared in a best picture film he has zero appearances on any film listed in the AFI top 100 what do you mean didn't Lincoln win best picture yeah no but it didn't it did not he's never been in a film that won best picture that's actually the wrong way to criticize Daniel Day-Lewis because yes like first of all he's like unquestionably the best actor of his generation listen I'm just reading the emails I'm not saying I agree with it I'm saying Daniel Day-Lewis fucked up by never being like the bad guy in Con Air like Daniel Day-Lewis should have done one bad action movie where he's like Hans Gruber that would have just been amazing or done his version of Lecter and Silence of the Lambs yes listen did Daniel Day-Lewis need his training day is there another podcast that would compare Daniel Day-Lewis to James Harden no I'm just trying to imagine if Daniel Day-Lewis today was like so disrespectful I love training day I'm gonna just remake it but I'm Alonzo I love Taken I liked what Liam Neeson do you like to get wet what basketball player is Daniel Day-Lewis it's a tough one it's somebody who won MVPs but was never on a and can transform themselves yeah cause it's in some ways it's like the only thing you do is win rings so is it Robert Ory you know what I mean is it Mike Trout no just multiple MVPs but never never won the World Series I'm just saying by the logic of this question of like he was never in the best movie of a year Steve Nash is good Steve Nash is good yeah Steve Nash is good technician mid 2000s Suns offense or it's somebody who's like a chameleon as their career changed I don't know John Craig Howell said he just caught up to the live and die in LA episode says you talked about whether prison phones during visits are tapped and recorded he said the answer is yes I know this because my wife had an internship with a prosecutor's office during law school and was signed to listen to some of them they monitor just in case the prisoners are dumb enough to discuss things they did which they do and a phrase she she heard still is used by them today HNL because one of the prisoners told his visitor oh man that's HNL HNL man whole nother level as in something has really escalated so they always say HNL because of these prison things that they heard okay so apparently they do record them yeah that makes sense I figured they did I just didn't know if they recorded LA County Jail in 1984 5 or whatever but yes this is a great one from Justin in Los Angeles what about the Sharon Stone fuck of the century award for excellence in craft as Michael Douglas tells us in Basic Instinct Catherine Shumel is an otherworldly lay not an all star or an NBA level a singular sport defining level talent so what other deeply skilled movie characters are eligible he suggests Danny Ocean as a generational thief and Machine as a world class sadist multiple 8mm references I really like Vincent Loria as a nine ball and stalker player and caller of money oh yeah but what else do we have I think it almost has to be more obscure right so this is like somebody who is overly competent at their specific job is this like Keitel and Pulp like a folk hero level of like what they're good at Keitel and Pulp yeah oh yeah The Wolf that's good yeah that's good I like that I'm gonna keep an eye on this one Sonny K from Vancouver says long time fan been re-watching Miami Vice on streaming us too why didn't the actor who played Tubbs become a bigger star or do anything after Vice good looking guy not quite as charismatic as Don Johnson but held his own in multiple episodes what held him back you'd probably know better than I would what happened to Phil Microphones I never understood it I thought he liked music more too right I thought he was total package like handsome funny I thought he was the fuck of the century good action star I don't really have an answer for this one maybe he was an asshole we've both been re-watching season one though yeah I was thinking about do we do give the re-watchables audience a season one starter kit for episodes which I think is the two part opening sadly I can do this off the top of my head the two part opening Calderon's Revenge which we already did on re-watchables Great McCarthy Great McCarthy definitely Glades I don't love Glades you like Glades more than I do but Glades does have people we've talked about on this pod the Golden Triangle episode is amazing the Bruce Willis as a domestic violence arms dealer couldn't recommend that oh my god could not recommend that episode more highly Evan which is no longer available on streaming because they end the show with Biko by Peter Gabriel must have must have cancelled that one there's a great one the last couple um there's one when Crockett falls in love and it starts affecting his job and then Tubbs gets beaten up and then I just watched Lombard recently the last episode of season one and it's Dennis Farina playing the midnight run the guy Sidney have a cream soda do some fucking thing um basically playing this wisecracking gangster and uh I texted CR about this already during the episode they play the entire song of Wire by U2 which is probably the single best U2 song of the 80s and they're just cranking U2 during this chase scene I'm like this is the most 1985 moment of my life did you say Milk Run Milk Run's another good one and Smuggler's Blues and Smuggler's Blues yeah so that would be the starter kit we might have to force Craig to watch all this this summer you like all these 80s things though I do I love the 80s I also Heart of Darkness where Susie Amos plays a young porn star in Miami and they break up an underground porn ring oh that's that's one of the early ones yeah yeah everything leads to the third episode that's before almost and then the third episode of season two which is ends with the Dire Straits song is the best one I think probably should I start growing my hair out should I do should I give one shot at it do it use it before you lose it man that's my attitude I've thought about it but there's such an awkward middle period I feel like before it starts to look good that you have to go through I don't know I think Chalamet has paved the way for the mullet again too yeah but you know I'm not Timothee Chalamet Steve W wants us to basically do an on screen smoking hall of fame as a special episode that's good and wants us to have a mailbag episode best actor best actress for the spiff girls most passionate worst on screen cigarette that felt the best best film cigarette just do like ten categories and go you guys would know this better than us I figured I could talk you into this how has Marlboro never approached us yeah as a comeback you don't ever really can we like why of all the things that advertise on podcasts like would it be weird if we were like propel fitness water with Gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with Gatorade electrolytes this episode is brought to you by Palmolive family time isn't just the big moments it's weeknight dinners sitting around the table everyone talking all at once so when the plates are empty and the sink is full use Palmolive Ultra Palmolive's most powerful formula removes up to 99.9% of grease leaving your dishes sparkling clean and the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together shop now at palmolive.com look I wouldn't do it now but I used to do it then we're not condoning it we're appreciating it he wants smoking problem call 1-800-MARGARO he recommends see our lookup on YouTube the compilation of match strikes from the long goodbye he says Elliot Gold is the Michael Jordan of strike anyways if we did this you guys would have to smoke cigarettes during the taping I mean fine you said you did or didn't have one in 2026 I had one yeah I've only had one I had one two weekends ago we're recording this before Memorial Day weekend and very strong possibility this weekend this is an amazing one from James McElroy probably not the same James McElroy the Sasha Jenkins award gets me every time that's for the award where we can't figure out why the actor didn't become a bigger star and we've been doing this what for four years since days yeah his name is actually Sasha Jensen you guys getting it wrong for so long really hits the point because he should have been bigger than he was we've been saying the wrong name the entire time I think we keep it I think it's funnier that it's a Sasha Jenkins or maybe we call it the Sasha Jenkins Jensen award I don't know do you think Sasha Jenkins is just like god damn it guys you can't even get my fucking name right yeah so this whole time we've had the wrong name Adam from Westport says thank you for so prominently featuring Chris's ponytail in the Kindergarten Cop episode I saw it when I was six I spent the remainder of my childhood completely terrified of any man with a ponytail do you think Kindergarten Cop was directly responsible for the sharp drop in popularity of long hair for men in the 1990s I have no idea I'm going to say no because of grunge I feel like I don't know long hair actually became a thing but I do think ponytails went away in the 90s and that might have been a reason I also remember the ponytail from the guy in Good Will Hunting being like you don't want a ponytail yeah Seagal ponytail for a long time right sure he also might have helped kill it yeah because people hate Seagal Avi from Staten Island says I have my own hottest take we're all very well aware of Bill's correct views on the Kay Diane Keaton character in The Godfather Avi from Staten Island wrote that just read the email not Bill from Los Angeles I would never make up a mailbag the argument was always Diane Keaton great actress Kay Adams bad character poorly written okay I'd stand by it for the rest of my life Kay Adams was that her last name was that her maiden name Kay Adams I did not know that we've talked about this that's where Kay Adams I think got her name because her name's not actually Kay Adams the sports she named herself after Michael Corleone's wife Kay Adams isn't her real name and you think she watched The Godfather I don't know maybe she liked Kay Adams I didn't know any of this yeah holy shit so Avi says I'd like to take I'd like to go one step further and suggest Michael should have had Kay killed for aborting his son Michael had his own brother killed for being stupid and putting his family's lives in danger no one was harmed Kay who in his own eyes actually murdered his own son should have at least been sentenced to what happened to Fredo that takes too hot pretty retrograde take for Craig it is interesting though that he kills Fredo but with the with the mom of his kids that was like a bridge too far for him yeah Fredo betrayed the family Fredo was so weak should we all have stage names? I just get now I'm like dang what should our names have been? you could have started when you became I should have just been Michael Corleone yeah Craig Corleone yeah that place could have been Craig Beck just gotten rid of the horal yeah I know the horal's not great I like the horal the horal works for you now though I guess for those who can pronounce it Matt Larkin another Dion Waiter's question he thinks the all time Dion Waiter's performance is Alec Baldwin and Glenn Gary think about it with no warning breezes in part way through the movie for a single scene delivers all his lines in an epic monologue absolutely cooks and dresses down a room of legends yeah it's a pinch hit grand slam shit's all over Jack Lemmon it's pretty good the one scene Dion Waiter's is like a special category it's also like that one is specifically Mamet writing it for Baldwin is pretty nuts yeah Baldwin's whole career is kind of Dion Waiter's everything he's in he's I mean 30 Rock he is amazing and it's I feel like it hasn't really lived on in a way that other huge show characters have because people decided they didn't like Alec Baldwin no 30 Rock still goes I think people have turned on Alec Baldwin he is amazing in 30 Rock I think if it's like an all time character if he if he does the Gene Hackman and just leaves in 2012 when we know we never see him again we're talking about him reverentially yeah but he's nowhere I mean like I think that there are other reasons why people turn on Alec Baldwin that's what I'm saying yeah Hans says thanks for all the laughs huge fan of the show has a new idea for a flex category it's the Sharon Stone going going gone award the point in a movie where it actually goes from something you believe could happen to suspending all belief and then just sitting back and enjoying the ride an example Die Hard when John McQueen jumps off the exploding roof with a fire hose yes loosely tied to his midsection you're like alright I'm just gonna ride with this so this is a variation on the Dan Campbell award then like the tank showing up in Animal House I think this is more so the reason he came up with this in honor of Sharon Stone because she was on my podcast once and told me in an interview that she hit a home run in Dodger Stadium to his credit Bill didn't impress her he just sat back and enjoyed the fact he was interviewing Sharon fucking Stone she did say this do you remember her saying that? now I after I got the email I did I didn't say that I didn't challenge it you didn't challenge her when she was like I hit a home run at a Major League Baseball stadium apparently not I guess I wouldn't either no that's a smart play business decision but I like the the Sharon Stone going on the road that would have been great if you were like was it the swing of the century? Pat S wants us to do the Robert Duvall Lieutenant Colonel Kilgore surf session award for the character who loves their hobby so much they do it in the most unusual circumstances possible and he suggests the lead bad guy in Die Hard 2 doing naked tai chi yeah and then Finch practicing putting in American Pie and Apollo Creed's coach playing chess and Roller Girl keeping her roller skates on I don't know I appreciate the the theory alright couple more here quick Travis this is really good Vincent Hanna brings Portman's character to the yard drops her off in a gurney and just starts ordering everyone around I need a trauma surgeon a vascular surgeon she cuts the man out of her arm why did nobody tell him to shut the fuck up and get to the waiting room like what happens to everybody else because he's a cop okay Luke Skywalker attends the pre-flight meeting before the Death Star one then starts talking about the size of rats on the home planet why did nobody turn around and ask him excuse me who the fuck are you this is the Rebel Alliance there is something here yeah the the the Vincent Hanna walking into an ER room of irrational confidence I don't know last email from Jeff K from New Jersey love the pod I've listened to just about every episode since the beginning and my buddy and I came to see you do the Creed live show in Philly yesterday I attended my daughter's elementary school production of Charlotte's Web it was as boring as you can imagine my daughter's small part my mind began to wander after a few minutes I began thinking about what rewatchable awards I would give to the kids in the place to play oh shit and who won the movie to different kids and it got me thinking have you ever applied rewatchables categories to other aspects of your life like when I gave the Dion Waters award to one of the kids regardless thanks for helping me get through it it is interesting the concept of just applying the rewatchables to other parts of your life like at a party like you just went to a wedding at Heifetz yeah right who won the Dion Waiters award at Heifetz's wedding there was a guy who hit like this really awesome dance right as jump around came on really and I'll never forget it what was Heifetz's playlist like mostly classics or more new stuff or what was it uh it was a dj dj who did a lot of blending so you could go from abba to jump around to shout oh it was all over it was good who is the champion of of the shout dancing at his wedding anybody we would know nobody you would know but hyvets hyvets is a good job hyvets has um like water people around the wedding where every like half hour he has people come and bring him water just to check in and make sure he's staying he's staying level he had hydration experts yes he has hydration assistants that are always like it's been a half an hour i'm gonna make sure hyvets has a water wow that's really smart yeah uh my wife and i recently were going uh through all the trips we had done since we had moved to la and i i realized i was doing what's aged the best what's aged the worst with them you know like where i was just like actually that like that experience was great or that restaurant was great or it was amazing when the cat sat next to us in croatia but then like that that was actually debrovnik sucked or whatever like it was it was fun do you wish you had kept more notes of things that happened to you and over the years so you could remember the details better yeah you know journaling essentially i i tried i try it every once in a while and i find that like my journal entries are just too boring they're just like went to work did a podcast came home watched a movie like you know it's just it's just not like when you read journals of people who are like fighting in this spanish civil war you could do you could do the rewatchables categories for the first 10 years of the ringer who's the dion well that's interesting we are heading up on the it's probably just was it june 1st we just passed was that when it was my biggest memory of the first actual day of the ringer is um did mallory break sean's shoulder or vice versa uh somebody mallory hugged sean and knocked her shoulder out of no it was so i think someone hugged mal and she like cracked a rib or like something wow with her shoulder or a rib yeah it was i think it was her fault though yeah she was over hugging somebody and cracked her own ribs yeah okay that was at a big bar celebrating the first day of the ringer yeah she's like yeah that was great the other thing i remember muhammad ali died oh yeah right around then yeah the other thing i remember maybe it was the next year we're at the 4th of july thing and there was some somebody got traded or free agency or something and we all had to start working at the july 4th thing there was like the biggest news bomb in ringer history um the kairi irving trade i think well the the first i what i have like a clear clear memory of is prince bowie and muhammad ali all dying like kind of in a cluster around each other but i could be getting that wrong well but i remember that being like i think muhammad ali news broke at like midnight i thought it was the kairi irving it's not yeah we were actually prepared to handle that we were all together and then the kairi irving trade happened and it was just like a month after the ringer started durant signed with the warriors i think july 2026 july 2016 yep that was a big one the the anthony davis that happened on a was it the kawaii thing happened on a friday night remember we're waiting for that was the uh that was the earthquake and it was the same day as the earthquake yeah that was a good one even luca was a saturday night i think or a friday night yeah i was at long legs yeah got out and it was like holy shit is that true yeah you're different you're different you're different you're different you're different i was just in the movie theater and when i walked out it was like luca got traded no wait long legs is when trump got shut rolling on luca luca was i can't remember what happened why i was in a movie it was like january february i was seeing the movie companion and when i came out luca had been traded yeah yeah when we started the ringer i don't think the pats had won the super bowl that year but it was still the patriots were in control of football the warriors were winning 73 but then lost the finals to the 2016 is one of the craziest years in sports the cubs century the cubs had the world series that 18 inning game or whatever the two biggest musicians we had were adele and kanye the summer that tv summer was thrones but i also think stranger things premiered that stranger things premiered it was the 20 it was the 23 comeback was 2016 season i think it was 2017 when the super bowl was played but that was the 2016 season honestly we won so many super bowls i can't Like the back-to-back buzzer beater? Yeah. Oh, the Jay Wright. What did he say? Bang? Or he didn't say anything. He just like walked it off, right? And then Sal and I lost our parlay of Hillary Clinton to win the presidency with the Pats to win the AFC. Oh, I remember that bet. Huge bet. And the Pats in late October had like a six-game lead. What were Hillary's odds? Hillary, even two days before, we could have hedged with Trump at plus 500 and we decided not to and ride it out. That was a tough loss. And then we lost on the Warriors, was the other one, in 2016. We had them. We could have hedged after game four. Draymond got suspended. Really was like. It was a crazy year. That's the 73-game season, right? Yeah. Unfortunately. That's one of the craziest years of my lifetime, just in general, just things happening. In the middle of it, we launched a ringer. I think that was the Leicester one. Oh, shit. It was the craziest year of the 21st century in sports. Also, I had a show that was on HBO every week and then got canceled. That happened in 2016? And that's when you couldn't see for three weeks. Remember? Your contact thing? It was longer than that. Yeah. Do you know that story? No. I couldn't see. And I thought it was stress from the ringer and my HBO show. Like everything was blurry? We would have the teleprompter and I couldn't see it. And I was getting these huge headaches and I thought I had a brain tumor. And I actually did have skin cancer, which was a separate thing that I had to remove from my forehead. But I couldn't see. And it turned out when you hit your mid-40s, your eyesight can shift sometimes if you have bad eyesight and get better. Oh, whoa. So my contacts, which were like minus 11s, my prescription went down to like minus 9.5. Wow. It improves? Yeah. That's crazy. So I was constantly like doing this and I couldn't see and focus. And I was like, I'm fucking dying. And that happened to me as I'm trying to do the ringer and the HBO show. And I thought I was having like a mental breakdown. Wow. It's just my contacts were too strong. So a little cautionary tale out there for everybody. Just get your eyes checked. Yeah. If you have an HBO show, make sure your eyes are checked. Well, I went to the doctor and he's like, oh yeah, this happens to everybody in their mid-40s. He's like, well, nobody fucking told me that. That my contacts would go from minus 11. Not yet. My other thing is getting worse. Your eyesight's getting worse? I will. I think also it's been 10 years of like kind of looking at my phone like this. And now it's like my, I need like, I mean, I have readers, but I need progressive lenses and stuff, so. Yeah, I've just, I won't wear reading glasses, so I just can't see. Even if you can see in the, when I'm doing the mailbag, I'm like, I've just learned how to live with it. It's what we do in the rewatch piece. We just string it together. That's why it's been Sasha Jenkins. That's why you're like Tim Masterson. Sasha Jensen must be so fucking mad at us. Just doing Sasha Jenkins over and over again. All right. Thanks, CR. Thanks, Craig. Thanks, Gahal. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, everyone. Play, eat, and shop on repeat at Netflix House at Galleria Dallas. Bring your crew and save. Get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house. Get business done with the new American Express Graphite Business Cash Unlimited card. With unlimited 2% cash back on all eligible purchases. Unlimited 5% cash back on flights and prepaid hotels booked through American Express Travel Online. And a flexible spending capacity that can grow with your business. You'll have the confidence to keep building. Apply today and earn a well-deserved 5% cash back. 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