A**Lighters Anonymous (Ft. Donnell Rawlings & Jivanta Roberts)

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You have a degree in merchandising and marketing from Johnson and Wales University. Wow. And you began your first stream of work on Nick in Disney? Yeah. Wow. And you're on Beauty in Black now. Yeah. And you have a co-host of a podcast. Yes. What's the name of the podcast? It is called The Donna Rawlings Show. But it's the Javante. The Javante. Roberts. Javanta. Javanta! Fuck! Javante! Can I just call you J-A-V-A-N-T-A? What's your nickname? J.J. J.J.? Yeah. I'm not there with you yet. No, you're not there with me yet. Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Nice to bring Donnell Rawlings with you. Hi, Donnell! Hi. How are you, sir? You well? What's going on? I don't feel good about the energy in this room right now. Why? I think it's amazing. Javante is here. That's what matters. Javante is here. But you knew everything. You gave her all her resume and everything. You know why? Because you did it. Because I met her earlier today when she came on Breakfast Club. You just walked in the room with her, didn't say nothing. She introduced herself. Didn't even know she had this amazing resume until she had to say it herself. But you're supposed to be her peoples. All right. First of all, it's called a collective. And a collective is collaborated thoughts. And we might not. I do things exactly how you want them. And this is the part where you start to be controlling. You never gave me an opportunity to establish me in the show. And you wanted to be me. They know you. You're established. You're Donnell Rawlings. Okay, but that's what I'm saying is that's not how we operate. That's not how we were operating. Who? You wanted us, the collective. Don't you think when somebody walks in the room, you walk in the room with a person, you've never been in the room, and the person that's been in the room should introduce you to the room, right? Wow. Traditionally, yes. Yes. Traditionally. Traditionally, yes. Yes. And you didn't do that. And then- No, you didn't do that. That has nothing to do with me. You didn't do that. I just introduced her to our audience off top. You're established. They know you. They may not be as familiar with Javante. Javanta. Javante. Javanta. Javanta. Why is your name so difficult for me? I do not know why. Javanta. Javanta. I've never heard a name like that, by the way. It's Hindi. It means to give life. Ooh. Javanta. Why are you with him? There's an acronym. There's an acronym. There's an acronym that the Y Unions use, and I never thought it would ever be fitting until today. It's called POS. Yeah, it wasn't from the Y Unions. See, I was surprised. See, y'all don't want to give the young people credit, but that's not from young people. And I don't- You're a piece of shit. Wow. You are. Wow. Why? You don't- Because I introduced your amazing co-host to people, and you didn't, but I'm the POS? It's always laced with some type of sarcasm. What? What are you talking about? It's always something- She has a light. So now that I know her name means, what, full of life? To give life, yeah. To give life. I feel that. But this is why you're a piece of shit, because you know you're trying to trigger me. How am I trying to trigger you by introducing your co-host? No, you're trying to trigger me, son. You know you're trying to trigger me, son. You do a good job of it. All right? But enough is enough. What is he talking about? Does he even know what he's talking about? Does he know what he's talking about? I do. Tell me. Tell me. Explain. Explain what I'm trying to explain to him. I think you guys just really need to just hug it out. He doesn't like affection. He doesn't like love. The only man- I fuck with affection, but I don't want it from you. The only human with a penis that he'll hug is his son, and I understand why. That's your son. Yeah, but I don't- Have you ever hugged Dave? Have Dave ever hugged you and said, no, no, I love you, I appreciate you, I value you? Three Mississippis. Three Mississippis. Was it one? It was one Mississippi. That's good. That's all you could ever do. I mean, was it a real hug, like a real embrace? It was a one Mississippi. Yeah. And what did he say when he hugged you? I didn't know these dudes, but I know they was gay. He was like, I don't know. We just hugged. I love you? Have you ever told him you love him? This has to stop. Yo, why, why do you have to be like this? No, I not love you with a V-E, but love. Men don't say I love you. Why, why, you? Why, Javante? No, I'm just saying. You tell men I love you? Yes, if I love you and I value you and I appreciate you, I'm going to tell you that. Because you never know. So you're going to say I love you? Yes, I love you, King. Nah, I love you. You said it. He said he just told you he loved you. Donnell knows I love him. I do love Donnell. I love. Man, you need to grow up, yo. Love, never. You need to grow up. Love. Love is different than love. Why didn't you introduce her properly to people? Why are you trying to hide her from the world? No, I wasn't. And here's the thing. Okay, introducing Javante Roberts. All right? We've known each other for a very, very, very long time. I've listened to the podcast. I've seen clips. I've never seen you on any of this stuff. You don't do the Watch House? That's not true. That's not true. During the height of the pandemic. Even when he calls me on the podcast, he never goes, I'm in here with my co-host. Because the times that I've called you lately for the podcast, she wasn't there. Why weren't you there? Oh, because you got an acting career. Yeah. Yeah. My own career. She's on Beauty in Black. She's doing a good job. Producing, television. You see what I'm saying? I produced some spots for the Super Bowl earlier this year. Ooh. See, you're trying to fuck with me. Why? What is your problem? You ain't got to be happy for your people, yo. No, but ooh, ooh, ooh. Yes, you produced. What spot did you produce for the Super Bowl? So, it's called the Super Bowl Soulful Celebration. And it happens right before the Super Bowl. I remember that. Yeah. So, I did that. That was on, what network was that on? This year, we had it on. It was on Fox. The year prior, it was on CBS. Thank you. Well, if you've never listened to Korean Idiot. Why are you trying to fuck with me, son? Why should this bother you? You should be happy. Yo, look at you, son. Look at me, what? You like, you're doing this, you like this. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Am I doing something wrong, Javante? No. Am I saying it right now? You're saying my name wrong. It's Javante. Javanta. Javanta. We'll get it right by the end of the day. Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Am I doing something wrong, Javanta? No. Exactly. What's up with him? He's okay. I just, I just don't trust him. What do you mean? I mean, I just- You don't trust yourself. I'm scorned. That's your problem, okay? I'm scorned. And you just tell him you're sorry. Just apologize. About what? I'm scorned. Apologize for what? Why are you scorned, Donnell? I deal with trauma. Yes. Yeah. And what is the biggest trauma that you've had from him? That plays way too much. Okay. Okay, Javanta, don't listen to him. No, no. The nigga played too much. Okay. Right? Can you say nigga, Javanta? I can say it. You can? Yeah. I'm just making sure. I don't know. I don't- What do you mean? I is a tranny. What do you mean? Oh, you're tranny. Okay, yes. I'm tranny daddy. Yes. Okay, tranny daddy. Yes. Amazing. I don't get black. I don't get black. Oh, you do. Oh, you give- I don't know. My mom's Indian. My dad's black. Boom. All right, so you can say nigg. No, no, I mean- No, you can say nigg. Tranny daddies are just- We're black. You have an amazing Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yes, we do. My nanny that's been with us for a long time is a tranny daddy. Oh, okay. Amazing person. You already know. You like doubles and rotis? Oh, yes, indeed. I don't know what the doubles is, but I like- Curry chicken and all that? The doubles. Yo, over roti, nigga. Hold on. Ooh, over roti. Roti slaps. Are you crazy? Not no- Roti slaps. Over doubles? Roti. What is this? What is doubles? No, I hit it. No, I hit it. You just said ooh, and you already know what a double is. No, I was saying that for the roti. What is a double? Donnell feels like you're putting extras on it. That's what this is. Yes. You dope. I met you earlier. You only told a little bit of your story on Breakfast Club, because Donnell didn't introduce you. But, but, but, ooh for roti. Roti slaps. Come on. You don't like roti? I do, but now- I love roti. Ooh. Yo, I want some roti right now. Your cheek was jumping. You're supposed to be like, ooh. That's like, girl, you're going to love my chicken. I know that's right. Ooh. Roti is fire, bro. Did she say roti? Ooh, not the roti. That's the extra that I'm talking about. What is extra? I'm doing for your co-host what you don't do. This is how you celebrate your peoples, Donnell. You know how you celebrate your people? How? We talked about it earlier, but you didn't let me get word in. It's creating platforms for people to see what they've been doing. for a long time. - Or when you're on platform, you shout them out. - Listen, I don't claim her-- Did he shout you out on Kill Tony? Has he ever shouted you out on Kill Tony? No, I only went to one. I was in the audience. That's all it takes is one. No, but Donnell, like I said earlier today, like Donnell, he has his ways of supporting and putting people on and it doesn't have to be broadcasted or showed. And so many people has benefited from just him being a part of his life. Adrienne. Adrienne is one of them. Adrienne Washington. Yeah, salute to Adrienne. I mean, a bunch of other comics. No, that's not you guys. You and Adrienne. No, Marshall Brandon. Marshall Brandon's on tour with Dave Chappelle right now. I don't know who that is. Okay, well. Who's Marshall Brandon? But I'm just saying that Donnell doesn't, it's not a show buddy. Let me say this. This is what I'm trying to explain. Okay. This is what I was saying earlier, right? What? You're a piece of shit. Why? I'm asking questions. You know what you're doing. No, I don't. I'm introducing people to Javanta. Javante. Javante. Javante. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, Javante. Javante, yes. So, Javante, here on this show, we start off by doing something called All Memes Matter. Okay. And what we do is we pull up like the latest memes, things that people are talking about, and we comment on it. Okay. Okay? Do y'all have something like this on the Donnell Rawlings podcast? We freestyle, you know what I mean? We don't really have too much structure on the show. No structure. Story of Donnell's life. Kim Kardashian pulls up the Kai Sinet's Mafia-thon scream. Let's watch. What exactly is this clip? Ooh, is that the roadie? Ooh, that's the roadie. Donnell, let's play this game, man. That's the roadie. That's the goddamn roadie. Let's play this game. Would you ever play this game that Kai plays? Show them the game, Donnell. We've got to get to the ad. This is a game they play where somebody puts the helmet on, and they turn their back to the crowd in Hula Watchin'. He says, no. Wait, I'm going to watch. I got a feeling. Ooh, that tonight's going to be a good night. That tonight's going to be a good night. Oh, Kim? Oh, nah. Damn. We can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't. I just, like, probably don't get that. You know? No, no, no, I'm saying I just. Oh, that's why she guessed it? Okay. Okay, we're not going to, we're not going to do Kim. You got to pick someone. All right, listen. So you. Okay, are we not going to do Kim? No, I'll sit down. Okay. Okay. W's. Let's play this, Donnell. I'll read the point in our time. Even if there's no turning back. When your heart's under attack. Gonna give up again, I have. It's my best day. I will never, never. I will fight. I will fight. To forever. I will make it. What the fuck is going on? I will make the first decision. I will not stay. That's real bad. They wear a helmet. And then they. That's real bad. Put their back to the crowd. And they hit them with those, those foam noodles. But then just now Kim hit them with a table. Oh my God. You wouldn't play that? No, that's not interesting to me. Why not? I just. No. What do you mean? I just wouldn't play that game. Why? Because I. Would probably start a fight. Why? You just hit me in the head with a goddamn whole wall. It's a joke though. Like. Everything ain't funny, man. For a comedian? No, everything. Everything is not funny. See, I don't like Dark Donnell. See, when you come in here with Dark Donnell. Don't come in here with Dark Donnell, yo. Come in here light. Just bring it in if you want to laugh and joke. Don't come in here Dark Donnell. Okay? Shitting on the new generation and how they do comedy. You know what? Stop this. That's exactly what you just did. You just said that shit ain't funny. You get it? I said. I said. You said. You said. You said. I said. I said. I said. I said. I said. I said. I said. You just said that. I can't believe he did it. I thought it was hilarious. Did you find it funny? It was okay. Your home matters. Huh? It was. I think it's a little immature, but it's just like. They're kids. Yeah, but it was a real table. Eh. It's like, you know what it reminds me of? It reminds me of like back in the day. You ever used to watch Jackass? Yeah. Yes. It's stuff like that. That's funny. Okay. But that's not my brand of comedy, son. What's your brand of comedy, Darth? I don't know. Let's not bust some motherfuckers in the head with what I have for a house. I'm just saying. That's never going to be funny to me. It's funny to them. Some people like it. The world is filled with people that like to watch motherfuckers get hit in the head with shit. Go to a topic Donnell cares about. Where's my guy, August Alsina? August Alsina's boyfriend reacts to grooming allegations. August Alsina's boyfriend. What's his name? I.M. Lezou. That's his name? I.M. Lezou. He said, "This is my first and only time addressing this. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck." I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. That's his name? I.M. Lezou. I don't give a fuck about any external validation whatsoever. I don't need anyone's likeness, but I'm a grown ass man with his own mind and free will. If I ever do anything, it's because I want to do it. I met August when I was already of age and an adult. August didn't even know me when I was 16 or 17. Not sure where that came from. Yeah, there's a slight age difference, but y'all pick and choose who to judge when it comes to that. We would have known each other for five years toward the end of the year." So he's speaking in future terms because that's where we're at. We plan to make it. "I know I'm not an internet person and I prioritize my peace before anything and I protect my relationship because the media at times can seep in and tarnish beautiful dynamics. August is my boyfriend and we're happy with each other. Simple, but I can see how being quiet and trying to protect something of value to you can allow some people to spin the narrative and create a bunch of different scenarios which aren't true. August gives me a GREAT, in capital letters, G-R-E-A-T life and I'm thankful. What y'all don't know is that I run this relationship. I call the shots. August just shows up and supports me in whatever I want to do. He supports my dream. He IS a DREAM in capital letters. Nothing is ever forced on either end. Hope this clears up any confusion. Stay fly. Salute to August and salute to Zoo. August is your favorite R&B artist." I love August, Alcina. That's so good. You used to call him a lot. Oh, yeah. We used to communicate. We still talk every once in a while. I look at him as like a little nephew or a little son. He's a good guy. It's the funny thing about the internet. It's like everybody thinks they're privileged to your life and think that they could comment and tell you how you're supposed to live. This motherfucker's open. He's free. He's not hiding anything. Was he? I mean, was he ever? I don't- was he ever? Look at me when I say this. I said he's not hiding anything. I don't think you're hiding none else. I never thought he was hiding anything. I mean, he's living his truth. Yes, he is. He's living his truth. Let me ask you a question. Was he hiding something before? No, I just- 'Cause he never made a formal announcement. Like, "No, I don't think you're hiding anything." Truth. No, I just. Because he never made a formal announcement, like, I'm gay. No, it was speculation. People that. And I don't think, you know, have to let everybody know what's going on in your life. But they say, yo, we're a couple. Leave us the fuck alone. That's it. Yeah. I mean, I just think it's interesting because the last time you heard of August being involved in a relationship, it was the entanglement of hurt around the world. Right. You know? And so, how long ago was that? Four years ago? Five years ago? During the pandemic, yeah. Yeah. To go from that to this, you know, so it's not abruptly, but, you know, there is. People do wonder what happened. With him? With that? Yeah. I don't care about his sexuality either way, but I can understand why people would be like, okay, what is he. Was he bi the whole time? But once you're quiet and you're not out in the public, people are going to be curious. They want to know what's the fuck going on in your life. And when you stay, I don't damn it so weird to say that, on a down low like that. Why is that weird to say, Donna? Because it's kind of in regard to this, not in a bad way, but I said, their relationship on a down low, people think it was down low, but it's not. He's openly into whoever he wants to be into. Yeah, I agree that it's not nobody's business. You know what I'm saying? Whoever you choose to be with is who you choose to be with. It's just the fact that he's a public figure and people give a fuck. It's just like, you know, I just wonder, like, it does make some questions, you know, arise in your mind. Yeah. And you see him go from the entanglement to that. To see him go from, and I love this shit, to this is a big dip. Why? I mean, when I was, for me, when I was introduced to August Alsina, his music was dope as shit. It represented. It's still dope. No, I'm not saying it's not. It was a street, so you just had one perception of him. You thought he was just a street dude. He could still be street and gay. I'm not saying that he can't. I would like to answer my. I wouldn't like to. I wouldn't like to answer for myself. Yes, yes, yes. All right, you're speaking for me right now. No, I'm just. I don't know what the mental word for what you're doing is. No, I'm just. Somebody Google. It's called ass-lighting. I'm ass-lighting you. I'm ass-lighting you right now, Darnay. I'm answering any gay question, any gay answer you may have. I'm answering. Don't ass-light me. Don't ass-light me. Yeah, I'm ass-lighting you. Okay? Yo, don't you ass-light me, yo. I don't see the problem with what August is doing, but you act like his music can't still be good. I still listen to the music. I'm just saying, but it's just interesting. This is one person. You think this is one person, and then it's somebody else. It don't change it. I think he's a good guy, and at the end of the day. He's a great guy. He's a great guy, and at the end of the day, it's either. At the end of the day, you got good people, you got bad people. That's at the end of the day. No matter what their sexuality is or anything, it's just good people and it's pieces of shit. And the crazy thing is love is love. So whatever music you create because of whatever love you're experiencing, it's still love at the end of the day. Right. So he might have made it, and his inspiration might have been a guy. You know what I mean? And you listen to it, and all you hear is love, but you like women. So that's what you use the music for. We never can. Luther Payne, never too much slaps. I don't care what was inspired, Luther to write them joints. Them is joints. But then when you think about it, you just realize that, like you said, he just wrote for love. Whatever, it could have been for an animal or anything. That's what really good music and good songwriting is all about. For an animal. Huh? Huh? His point was, irregardless of who the subject was about, love is love. But that's what I said. That's what I said. But he just ran it. Why he had to go to animals? I can't do this today, sir. Not today, sir. Could you just stop it? What you mean? You said it. Why you mad at me for things that you're saying? First off, you start off with the shit, with your producer and shit. Because my man Adrian Washington was on Kill Tony. He kilted on Kill Tony. And he was like, oh, this is what you did. No, the producer, what's his name? Archer. Archer. Archer goes, yo, you kilted on Kill Tony last night. And he wasn't talking to you. He was talking to Adrian. Adrian, what did you say? Huh? What did you say? What did you say after that? I said, ooh. No, you didn't say, ooh. Yo, you almost said, ooh. You almost said, ooh. You did. You did say, ooh, nigga. You said, ooh. You did say, ooh. You said, ooh. He was the only one you saw last night. Ooh. But everybody get a ooh from me. Well, do better. No. You know there's a petition to keep you off Kill Tony? No. No, there's not a petition. Yes, it is. There's not a petition. Chris, isn't there a petition? We saw it earlier. They got a full-fledged petition to keep you off Kill Tony. Official petition to ban Donnell Rollins. Listen, what's the headline say? Official petition to ban Donnell Rollins from Kill Tony for the rest of his life. Oh, 13 hours ago. What the fuck you be doing on these white people's shirts? They don't want you there ever. I thought that was five years ago. Refresh that shit. You're not even going on there being woke. Refresh that shit. Refresh that shit. You're not even going on there being a woke liberal and they don't want you on these shows. What are you doing? I'm going to tell you what. I'm being me, son. I'm being me. I do these shows. I did Kill Tony. First off, that audience is a diabolical audience. That audience right there, it don't matter what you do. It's going to be motherfuckers. That's not true. What? I see. Adrian had them dying laughing yesterday. You're missing the point. No. And I've seen other comedians in there have them die laughing. He's laughing. Nigga, I had them dying laughing. Shit. Let's read some of the comments. Don't watch this episode, son. It's 445 comments, yo. What'd they say? It says, Donnell is annoying. But he needs to be annoying to push Rob to react in the way he did, which then annoyed Donnell, which made things funnier. And we did a fire ass show, nigga. This was his first step towards his redemption, having trial by Snyder. Okay, what else we got? It wasn't no redemption. No redemption, son. Don't call it a comeback. Nah. Why some good shit? Why you want to read it? Nah, read it. You got to watch it now. I'm reading it. It must be some good shit. I'm not reading it. Read it, Javante. I've been laughing my ass off all night. Go back. Go back. Somebody said. That wasn't the one I was just reading. I was reading stuff off Reddit. Oh, why you switching it? Go to Reddit. Go to the Reddit one. I'm not reading it. Yeah, somebody said, I was laughing my ass off all night. Thank you. Yeah. Yep. Go. Too much positive. Wait, look, he waiting. Great episode. Great episode. Come on. What is Whiskeyhole, Darnell? He definitely has big heel energy, Rob. Okay, yeah, they had a good balance. Big heel energy. Here's the thing. So, there was a really great balance between Rob and Darnell. Yeah, I'm not reading that. I know you ain't going to read it. I know you ain't. Rob is hilarious. Woo! Wow. Yo, that's roti, nigga. Read it, Rob. Read it, Rob. Oh, shit. Okay, play this. Rob Schneider destroys Darnell Rollins on Kill Tony. What the fuck did he do? Yo, that was a trickle. Let's work this. Let's work this. You were in a whorehouse. You were in a whorehouse in Korea. I wasn't. That's true. I was 18 years old. Delightfully chaotic and improbably wholesome, Kill Tony, number 733, felt like someone spun and took mercenaries, brilliant, and Rob Schneider and finished business. I'm Anderson's interview. Try. That was last night? You want that again? Don't discuss it. Oh, he came back up. Yo. That physical flouncing functions like a recurring gag in a sitcom. What? Why he say you physically flouncing, son? And Rawlings used it to recalibrate the energy of the room. Rob Schneider, meanwhile, slid into the evening like a guest star who knows all the best beats, and isn't shy about stealing a few. The late-show roast of Rawlings, good-natured, sharp, and relentless, landed repeatedly, and the crowd rewarded it. Schneider's set felt like the clean, practiced uppercut after Rawlings' improvisational jab. One is a pro, one is a thorny instinct, and they complimented each other in a way that made the episode feel complete, rather than distracted. God dang it. That's what they say, nigga. Yo, you a thorny instinct. Why you talking? Why you won't let them say? You a thorny instinct. Man, here's the thing. You know who gets thorny instincts? Luther Vandruff before he used to write songs, bro. That was a thorny instinct, bro. I'm not going to let you ask like that. That was crazy. But you a thorny instinct? That's like crazy. Well, I'm going to tell you. The show was dope. "Kill Tony's First Off" is one of the best platforms for people to be seen. Yes, Adrian did admit his set, and he killed the set. I was on there as a first-off return guest after dealing with four years of motherfuckers trying to shit on me. Somebody ran me off of a show and all that bullshit. They did? They did not. We watched it. If you watch that video, the video that went out, and I'm tired of explaining it. If you're explaining, you're losing. How many times do I have to tell you this, Donnell? Okay? Do you feel like you lost your first "Kill Tony" episode? Do you feel like this new one was a redemption arc? Let me ask Big Ja. Ja, what do you feel? Do you feel like he lost it? He did, son. Do you feel like he fucked up the first "Kill Tony" and redeemed himself this new one? I wouldn't say. I wouldn't call it a fuck-up. I feel like if you know Donnell's work, and you saw what he did when they premiered, he did an amazing job. It was a great balance. Whoever's watching this podcast right now- You got to watch it. You just really got to watch it and not listen to the clips. They are ready to use insufferable- They're ready. They stay ready. That fan base, are they- They ready to get at him. Yeah. I can see that. He's thorny. I can see that. I can see that. The motherfucker didn't want to shut the fuck up. Why would you want to get at a thorny person? In a black barbershop, a stuttering nigger never is heard. What is that? You telling jokes that nobody's laughing at. No, it's the old one. Listen, I'm not a gimmick. I'm not a gimmick. And this is the point I'm going to make with you. I'm not a gimmick. This was that one. You're a gimmick. You will win because you're fat. You look hardy. Is this good? I want to get this dude. I'm going to cut to another shot from me doing it. It's not even the same. You're going to die. You won't be so fucking angry. Thank you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Joe Rogan, everybody. Sorry, Donnell. Keep going. I appreciate that, Joe. No, it doesn't matter. What I'm saying is, that's called production. Why are you on stage explaining? I'm not a produced motherfucker. If you're explaining, you're losing, Donnell. Whoever that watched the Joe Rogan podcast say he's the interrupter, can we pause that? Suck. Yes, pause. So you can explain some fucking more. Explain, Donnell. Why do you got to explain everything? There's no way to win this. There's not? No, I know who I'm dealing with. I know the people that are going to connect to your piece of shit energy. Have you ever been in a relationship where you caught a man red-handed, you know he was doing some bullshit, and instead of just admitting it was some bullshit, he's just trying to explain his way out of it? Doesn't that frustrate you? It's very frustrating. Wow. Let's go back to all memes, man. This is just. No. There's nothing to. Talk about last night. Did you redeem yourself last night? Do you feel good about last night? This is not good for my mental health, son. What you mean? No, I'm just telling you the truth. If you are an advocate for mental health, right, if you really care about a nigga mental health like you say you do. I feel great. Like you say. But that's suffering. I feel great. Alex feels great. Chris feels great. Adrian feels great. Big John feels great. But you have no concern of my mental health. Yes, I do. Then why are you doing this to me? Doing what? You're doing things to trigger me, Charlamagne. Could you go back to all memes? No, I'm not doing this to trigger me. I'm not doing this to trigger me. What am I doing to trigger you, Donnell? Come on, stop. You're making things up per usual. Let's go back up. Okay. Click on BBL. No, I don't want to talk about that guy. I'm tired. Go back to the Roti. Go back to the Roti. Tyrese hurt after Mary J blocked him out. Oh, I'm sick of this nigga. Yo. God damn. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I think the only nigga that I'm sensing of me is this nigga right here, son. Yo, I got tears on the inside, son. the way. Cut it out. Does father die for real? Yes. Press play. Now, see. She passed on it. That's not. It's okay. I feel a way about it. I'm hurt. I'm hurt. I'm really hurt. I can't lie. But she passed on it. And I wasn't hurt that Mary passed on the song. As if she didn't have a choice because she does. Three days ago. It's all the same weekend. She's my sister. I love her. That's what I don't understand. I was more so hurt about her passing on the song because like a mad scientist, I went into the studio and when I tell you I customized this song, I made this What the fuck does this have to do with his father dying, son? I just want you to stop joking on him. This was about Tyrese's But what the fuck do I have to do? I know. After Mary J. Blige turned down the song. But then you said his father just died, right? His father did pass away. His father actually passed away. I was with Tyrese last Friday. My dude, Bakari Sellers and his beautiful wife, Ellen, they renewed their vows. And Bishop T.D. Jakes did the ceremony. And Tyrese came out as a surprise guest and sang for Bakari's wife. So I was with him Friday and I think his father died the day before. And he still came to Charleston, South Carolina to do the wedding. I would rather him be, me personally, I would rather him have an emotional post. About his father passing away. Have an emotional post about a motherfucker saying they didn't want to be on your song. It's fucking crazy. But that's you. You do shit like that. I don't do that, no shit like that. I don't put my fucking. Everything about. I mean, we have to know everything about his life. Yes. We invested in him. And all is just crying and enough is enough, nigga. Have you ever been mad that a comedian didn't want to do something with you? No. I don't expect too much of too many people. But I don't ask. I said, have you ever been upset when one didn't? Somebody you did expect something from, you asked them to do it, then they didn't do it. And you felt the same disappointment that Tyrese felt because he couldn't get Mary J. Blige on the record? I have not had that situation because I don't really put myself in a position to like, if I'm gonna, for the most part, if I'm gonna ask you for something, the people I'm gonna do that from, it's almost 100%, 100% that they're gonna show up for me. I don't have relationships with people that would be like, well, I don't know, let me think about it. And for another reason, I never, never ask anybody for anything. Like, if a motherfucker, if I call a motherfucker and say, could you do this? This cuts out a lot of the bullshit because I don't, like, could you do this? Could you look at. I don't do that shit. So when I do, it's usually, like, met with, like, it's received very, very well. So you go with safe bets. Yeah. I ain't gonna, like, if I know this nigga don't really fuck me, hey man, I know we had. But a lot of times the people you think don't fuck with you actually do fuck with you, but because of your trust issues, Donnell, you think everybody has something against you. I don't think that. And that's a good flip. I really appreciate what you just did. You should be a therapist. Your wordplay is crazy, son. What the fuck are you talking about? Your manipulation is out of control, son. So you telling me. I see what people don't like about you, son. Because all I heard was safety just now. You can't just lean into safety all the time. No, what I'm saying is, I am not a person that says, could you do this for me? And with that said, you got a motherfucker that asks for favors every five minutes. I'm not one of those people. So if I come at you with something like that, nine times out of ten, I'm pretty sure that you're going to be down. You got trust issues. Have you ever played the game where you just stand up straight and then somebody stands behind you? I do have trust issues. And you fall back? You know why I have trust issues? Why? Because I continue to try to have a friendship with people like yourself. What does this have to do with me? This has nothing to do with me. You know what? I have trust issues with you. Well, say that. I said it earlier. I think you have trust issues. I have trust issues with everybody. How do we fix this? How do we fix this? Did I say that? I'm right off the bat. I said you was pissed. I'm fine. What does he have to do for you to trust him? What does he have to do? I don't really need to trust. I'm never going to trust him. That is crazy. How could you ever be in any type of relationship like that? You play too much. But you can never be in a relationship. You know what it is? I really mean this. Your first, last, and best love is self-love. When you truly start to love yourself, then you will start to trust yourself. And then you will start to love and trust other people. The reason you have a lack of love and trust for others is because you don't really have that with yourself the way you should. I don't give a fuck what you just said. That sounds like something the nigga told you already, nigga. You just got this out your last fashion. You remember what the nigga told you and hit me with the same shit. I've heard that. Could you be with a man that didn't trust people? I couldn't. I couldn't. Not really. No. No, I take that back. Well, not trust everybody. I think it's important to know who you can trust. I mean, this is a crazy business. How do you feel being his co-host knowing he don't trust nobody? Do you trust her? 100%. How did that trust develop? It developed over years of being in New York. I met her, well, the first when I met you, you were at a comedy show with a date. I cracked jokes and then I'll pass across again because she was already doing like interviewing. She was on one of the internet shows called What's Poppin'. It was really hot back in the day. What's Poppin.net? Yeah. I remember that shit. Yeah. Yeah. And she was just like somebody that we kept in touch. And then we just, our paths would cross. Became good friends. I always supported everything she's done. I didn't see her go from like doing, I mean, there's certain people that you just root for. And what we were talking about, I was talking about on the Breakfast Club. I want to build something that's different from like the traditional sense of management and agency. I ain't trying to take over. But I think that we all have enough power that collectively, if you get a system together, you could create opportunities with your friends and people that you fuck with. So how come you never introduced her? It wasn't the right time. Everything is timing. She's had her life. She's been doing her thing. I've been doing my thing. She's been successful. All both of us have had, ups and downs. But the thing, throughout that, we maintain a friendship. Like, it wasn't like, I don't talk to you for a couple months. Like, where you been? Why you ain't calling me? I already know, if we're not communicating like that, she on her grind. She doing her shit. She's not going to wait for me to do anything. And I said, this is some real shit. I said, alright, do I have any resources? This is me and my life and people I fuck with. Do I have resources to help a motherfucker alone? Not to say that they need it, but if I could make one phone call and be like, yo, I heard y'all so-and-so. Look out for my people. The same thing with Adrian. I'll give you another example of the patience. My good friend Marshall Brandon, right? Marshall Brandon was my opener for years. A funny guy. Like, he's one of those guys, when you go after him, you better be prepared because you're going to have to work. He was touring with me. When we were doing the shows in Yellow Springs during the pandemic, I invited Marshall to come out and hang out with us because, excuse me, he was in Connecticut. And then we just had this bubble that we were just living life as normal as possible. And I invited anybody. I invited her out there. Like, people I know that could probably start having mental issues because I was like, yo, come out here, man. You thought she might have a mental breakdown? No, I didn't. I didn't want to have to deal with any type of stress. And I'm saying, for me, my invite for people out there, it was a relieving of that. It was like this, I'm telling you. I know she's fucked up right now. I had to leave LA because I kept getting in it with my baby mother. And I was like, I got to get the fuck out of here. This is going to get crazy. Let me go. I found my peace there. I started inviting people. I invited her. Marshall, Brandon Marshall. Did you find peace there? I did. 100%. It was like no answer for her. Could you let her talk for herself? Alright, I'm not going to let you talk to me like that. Did you find peace? I did. I did. I met some amazing people of Yellow Springs. I built my own little community as well. I have a fragrance line. So my first store that I'm in is in Yellow Springs. Wow. What's the name of the fragrance line? It's called Uni Fragrance Line. It's an oil. So it's unisex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get you some. Dope. Okay, like I was saying. With the answer to your question, yes. I found much peace there. Okay, like I was saying, about opportunities. Yes, yes. My guy, Adrian, he just did kill Tony. He killed it. Marshall, Brandon, he was out and he killed it. He didn't just do it. He killed it. He killed, killed Tony. Give the man his props. Give Adrian his props. He killed it. He killed it. Yes. The point I'm making is Marshall, Brandon was in those cornfields an entire summer. We had a comedy line. I know he's a funny guy. Never once asked about going on. Never was like, he just happy. He was happy. He was in the moment. We did a summer show. Now one time they go on. I know he's a bad motherfucker. Right? But this is what I say when it comes time. So we did a residency in Austin, Texas. This is when our bubble popped. Right? Everybody was getting COVID. Like, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. All the comedians, bop, bop, bop, bop. And then we had a situation. We was losing comedians. To death or like just sick? No, just tested positive. So now you gotta go disappear for 10 days. So we it was down to like me and Dave and then Dave was like, alright, who's gonna open so-and-so? And people started to kind of panic. I was like, look, we got it. Let Marshall go up. Let him do 10 minutes. And then he could eat the garbage time, whatever. Whatever you do. Just put him in that position. And I go up. By that time, Dave be here. And it worked out. He got called off the bench. Right? And once that. It was a perfect time. I could have been like, You got to check this guy out, right? But I think certain things happen when it's a defining moment. He was ready. They called him in the game. And he's been touring with Dave around the world as a solid guy. And that's because of relationships. I think that's a dope story. I just don't like the fact that mad people had to get sick for Brandon to get a shot. Because you could have said, yo, you should check my guy out. You know, he's really dope. He's been opening up to me. Was he in that environment? No, no, no, no. Can I explain that? What we're not going to do. He's been opening up to me for years. He's really dope. You should check him out. You're trying to control the narrative. No, I'm not. I'm just saying. I'm not going to let you do that. Enough is enough. I don't know if anybody ever told you this, but shut the fuck up. There's a young lady trying to talk. You should not have to raise your hand to speak. This is a crazy relationship. This is fucking crazy. You ever heard this phrase? I want you to be free. You do not have to raise your hand to speak. Don't. Please don't do that in my presence. Are you familiar with this? I will protect you, okay? That's crazy. You got her raising her hand to speak? If you're familiar with this phrase, this nigga here. That's crazy. Did y'all see that? She rolled. She put her hand up to speak. That's kind of crazy. That's crazy. You can speak for me. No, I just wanted to piggyback off of what he was saying in regards to the timing and everything. I felt like in that particular environment, you have Dave. All these comedians. I feel as though if Donnell was like, oh, you got to check Marshall out. It wouldn't have been his time and he wouldn't be on tour with Dave right now. But not only that, to add to that. You do stand up too though, right? Oh, I don't do that anymore. Why'd you quit? Because Donnell killed your dreams? No, no. He was the one uplifting me. I respect the art so much and that particular lifestyle just wasn't for me. Waiting to see if I was going to go up every night, going to open mics. And I was genuinely balancing Missy Elliott. And Shakira. It's like those dance jobs. Oh, she's a dancer. I forgot to tell you how she dances. So yeah, I dance. So were you good? Were you good as a stand-up? I was decent. I think I was decent. Donnell, was she good? Ugh. You know what? You know what? I'm sorry, sir. I said. Yo. When her dreams were at work, I'd be like, just turn around. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, I respect it so much. I told him. She's like, what happened to my life? I was like, just turn around. He told you to fuck your dreams? No. Nah. Nah, nah. I cried or whatever. I cried. I did. You cried when he told you that you sucked? No. No, I cried that night because no one laughed. What? I told her. This is on her phone. Oh, my God. Where was this at? At the Laugh Lounge on Lower East Side. Oh, is that on tape? This was only her second appearance. And she said, she sent me a video. She said, this is snippets from my show. I said, your whole show is a snippet. She said, this is five minutes from my show. Your whole show is five minutes. How many minutes did you have? Five. Needless to say. Five. But needless to say. I will say, this is one of the things I really appreciate about what she did. And this is with anybody. She, something said she wanted to do it. Yes. And even if you, anybody come to me and say, I've always thought about it, I'm always going to say, at least try it. It don't mean you're going to get a career off of it, but it's challenging your fears and you're doing something that, you challenge your fears, you never know what's going to happen. She did. She was into it. She was, we were right. She had her stuff down. She was, she was really into it. She was passionate about it. And then, you know, I told her, I said, when you go on stage. I said, don't talk about your looks. Don't talk about being pretty or anything. I said, because the ugly bitch is going to get mad. And that's what you did, Javante? Yes. I got nervous. I told her. She did. Yo, say, she did. Can you tell us some of the set, since you didn't, you're not going to do. I remember it was so long ago. I must have said something, oh, I was cute in college or something like that. I don't know. As soon as she did it, I was like, ah! Are you going to ever let her finish a sentence? Are you going to just interrupt every single time she talks? Is this how the podcast is? This is why I don't hear you on the podcast, clearly. Okay, well, Javante, Javante, can you tell us some of your set, please, without being interrupted by Donnell Rollins? He's doing you like he did to RZA, this guy, man. Oh, stop it. What? I get invited to these platforms, right? To interrupt people? And they know who I am. They know what's about to happen. It's not interrupted. It's that I get excited, okay? I'm not, I don't interrupt people like that. Okay. All right. Javante? Yes. Do you remember some of your set? I know it was somewhere along the lines of, I said I wasn't cute in college, and then there was crickets, and then I gave myself the light. I definitely gave myself the light, and I ran off the stage. That's what I do remember. Hold on. That was the joke? The joke was I wasn't cute in college? I don't remember the joke, to be honest. Okay. It wasn't going as well as it was. It wasn't going. Yeah, it wasn't. Do you remember any jokes that you told? Just give us a joke. Not even from that night. Oh, my God. Come on. Really? Yeah. Why not? I don't know. I don't have any jokes. quit for a reason. I quit for a reason. Don't encourage the show. I could produce a comedy show. Let her dance. Yeah. Let her dance, man. I ain't trying to kill no dreams. I know my songs. Adrienne, do you remember any of them? I know my songs. I wasn't even around then. He wasn't around then. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But I'm good on the comedy show. No, this is what I told her, and she was like, and she's a very beautiful young lady, and all the comedians, they was like, oh, it's going to be okay. Like, oh, she's going to be okay. She's going to be okay. She had a bad set. She like just, and they like just, oh, you know them niggas. You know what they're trying to do. Yeah, keep playing, bitch. You crowd my shoulder. Watch. It's going to be all right. I'm telling the real shit. They like this. She crowd his shoulder. They looking over, looking at her ass at the same time. Is that the roadie? Is that the roadie? And she doing that, and she feels safe with these guys, and she looks at me, and then she's like, Don L. What do you do if they're not laughing? And I told her, I said, if you are crying right now, you should quit and never do it again. And I think that was her last day doing comedy. You quit? Yeah, hell yeah. She could not do it. Damn. I could not take it. But also- You couldn't dance for Aaliyah then. Aaliyah said, if at first you don't succeed, you got to dust yourself off and try again. You just said, fuck it, huh? No, I wasn't passionate about it. Like, it was something that I wanted to try and do, and I think it's one of the bravest things I've ever done, but I respect the art so much, and I'm around, like, those are the people that I'm around, and I- I felt about rap when I used to rap. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. But I had some- Just like that, I had somebody tell me, that sucked. All right, spit some, spit a bar. My name used to be Dizzy Van Winkle, so I'd be like, Dizzy Van Winkle's the name. I can slam King Kong, lift up freight trains, silly shit like that. Okay. Yeah. How long ago was this? Oh, this is 25 years ago. Probably longer. And you performed and everything? No, no, no, no. I mean, I've been on stage with rappers who are performing, but I was like, they hype man. You know what your rap just reminded me of? What? What episode of Breakfast? Breakfast Club, but somebody spit some shit. You said, nah. Nah, that ain't it, y'all. But see, the difference between me and Safari, I was Safari, but the difference between me and Safari, I knew it wasn't it. Because like you said, you can feel when you're supposed to be doing something, you have a passion for it. Somebody might tell you that you suck, and you'd be like, nah, y'all had a bad night. Nah, I knew I wasn't supposed to be rapping. Just like you knew you wasn't supposed to be doing comedy. Yeah. Yo, Adrian raising his hand, too. What the fuck you doing to your team, yo? Listen, man. What the fuck are you doing to your team? It's called, you know what? You should understand this, because it's something in radio. It's not like, you can talk now. It's just like, make the acknowledgement without bumping it. But it's a rhythm. Adrian could have jumped in. Go ahead, Adrian. This is crazy. Listen, he get a lot of shit. I haven't grown up around him. I've been with D now for like three, three and a half years. Not long enough. You haven't been with him long enough to form an opinion. Right. Very long enough to form an opinion. But he invited me out when he bought his house out in Yellow Springs. He's like, you got to come see it. That's when I met the rest of the team. I didn't know going in, because I had never met Marshall, really. Oh, man. I don't know how everybody's going to see me. And because of the way he set me up, everybody from the day I walked in, open arms. Like, sitting there talking with Marshall, a dude who used to be in my position, about how things are going to change, because now I'm on tour with Donnell. Like, that was just so dope to hear from him. And I was. I'll say this. When I did kill Tony, right? And that is when. Oh, God. It's not even about me. It's about him. The thing I was like, of course I wanted to go back. Because, I mean, I didn't feel comfortable with what people thought of me. Then I was like, you know what? All I'm going to do. All I can do is be myself. I was funny in the show. But more importantly, I know how big of a platform it is for comics that want to be seen. I got enough. I ain't saying I'm no superstar, but I'm known. I do this shit. And I knew he was ready. Even when I pitched it to Tony, he was like, we'll see. I'll see what I can do. Certain people, just because you like somebody, that don't mean you're going to give them a shot. Because they might not be ready. That's right. But I knew from rocking with him for three years, seeing how he performed, how he carried himself. I said, anybody that could maximize that minute, it would be him. He did that. The set was great. And then even the post-interview, are you really tweeting while we're talking to you? I'm not tweeting. I don't even be on Twitter. I'm listening to you. You're on your phone. That's disrespectful. But he was another example. Being ready, he stood up. And he's already getting some heat. From that audience, or the people, they liked him. He did a good job. He did a good job on the show. He's getting charged up. What was that? You're charging him up. Charging him? Yeah. Money? No, man. Like, you're charging him up. Oh, we do that too. With the batteries. Oh, shit. Dang! Yo! Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Yo. You got to play hard. That was so good. He was kicking the ass like, yo, man. Yo, this dude. He was doing so good. Yo, he was fishing. And he was like this, and he's like, oh, God, God, oh, God. holy shit can you click on that one can you click on that one the second one Chris because I want to know what does Javanta Javante Javanta what does Javanta think when your friend is in these type of headlines yo Charlotte I've seen this post and you know I was so scared to like it because I know he was going to see that I liked it he'd be like oh that's what we do that's what we do no this is a story show your picture man goes to ER after sticking batteries up his rectum for an energy boost why they use your picture though why do they use your picture can we go to Donny Arana's page let's go Javanta when you see stuff like this what do you think of your man do you even say anything to him do you acknowledge him do you be like yo I know this was just in the papers this is in the blogs I know he ain't doing none of that how do you know I know I know we go to the pages go ahead I don't care oh that's crime leave Tyrese alone what more do you want from us what more do you want from me yo you gotta let us live I'm tired what more do you want from us Tyrese is a talented motherfucker keep going let me get a good one hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on go ahead oh yeah you did the challenge keep going keep going oh oh there go one right there show them that one right there click on that one in the middle which one you know that one right there this is where all the anger come from I know where all the anger come from I know what it is I'm just saying just click on click on fuck fuck fuck go go go go let's do it top five let's do it Yo. Yo. Yo. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, go back. Go back to the library. Let me see the whole thing. Hold on, keep going. I know I never got another banger in here somewhere. See? All right, that's it. Which one? The left. Where? Serial butt sniffer. Busted again. No, no, we don't want that. We want. Yo, you know he got busted again? He did. He got busted again since that. A couple days ago. Yeah, since then. No, no, go back to the top of the page. Go back. Go, go, hold on. The challenge. Hold on, keep going. All right, go with that. Go, go. Yo, why you be so close to the camera when you be doing your fucking. Right here, look, look. Oh, this one, this one right here. This one right here. The Chris Brown challenge. Chris Brown. No, not right here. In the middle. In the middle. This is where the anger comes from. Ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy. You know what I find flattering about all these videos, man? You see these guys, and they be working that shit, and you be like, all they need is Charlamagne's face for you to get real bricked up. What? Right? Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Like, you be seeing those videos of those guys twerking that shit, and you say, if I put Charlamagne's face on here, it'll get real, get me real bricked up. That's better than fucking Bluetooth. That's sad. That's love, son. Tell the truth. I don't know what network this podcast is. That's a violation. That's a DT crowd right here. Oh, shit. Nah, son. Let's pay some bills, man. Let's pay some bills and come back and talk about Young Thug's situation. Now, we got church announcements. Church announcements is when you shout out anything that you have going on. Okay. Javonta? Javonta. Javonta. Javonta? Yes. I almost had it. It's the band. It's the band in the barn that's fucking me up. And if you have an accent, if you said Javonta, then it's okay. Javonta. You're going to learn how to say her name. Javonta. When are you going to learn how to introduce her to people? It's been a whole show. You know what? I would have known how to say her name, and when you walk in the room, you say, yo, this is my people, Javonta. Javonta Roberts, okay? She's phenomenal. She's my motherfucking co-host. She makes me look good. But no, you don't want to do that. You don't want to do that. As if we're not married men. You understand what I'm saying? Introducing Javonta Roberts. Javonta Roberts. What do you have going on, Javonta Roberts? So right now, they did make the announcement. I hope I can say this, but I am on a new series called Choose of the Game. They did a series. On BET? Series regular. I can't say what it is. I hope I don't get in trouble, Manny. But it's going to come out until Thursday, so. Okay, cool. All right. So I'm going to do it. All right. So yeah, I'm doing that. I'm producing a new comedy show coming up soon. And what else am I doing? I have my Ooni Fragrance Oil. Okay. I'm a mom of a two-year-old. Wow, congratulations. Thank you so much. Somebody shot the club up. Yay. I was engaged, but not anymore. And what else do I have going on? And you know, the Raw Edge Collective. The Raw Edge. I wasn't excited. I was disappointed. I'm going to get engaged. Like, what? You was engaged? Yo. Yeah. But wait a minute. Yo, you did that. It's like the road to this shit, son. You shot your club up and bounced? Wait, what about if I bounce? Oh, you bounce. Okay. I'm sorry. It's okay. We can talk about it later. And then I'm really excited about what we have going on. As Donnell mentioned earlier, the Raw Edge Collective is what we're building right now. What is the Raw Edge Collective? It's a collective of individuals who are in the industry. In the entertainment space. Not just comedians. Myself, talent, and a couple other people we're building out. And I think it's just a great collaborative partnership. And so you'll find out more when Donnell feels it. Say something nice about me. Watch his face. Say something else nice about me. No, but I really wish people could see. Like, there's a side of Donnell nobody gets to see. And I've been privileged to it because he has been like a dad to me, like, over the years. Granddad. A dad. He has been a dad to me. And he's such a hard worker. Like, we forget how hard Donnell goes. Like, he's always on the road. And he's still doing television. He did a great job on BMF. And I look up to him so much. And he's such a great inspiration to me as an artist. He's going to be in the show. That's too positive. He's about to end the show. He's going to do another commercial. No, because we get all the bashing. And oftentimes in these spaces, especially with Donnell, it can feel easily like ganging. That's why I tread lightly. Because then it can be like, let's just bash Donnell. But I would really love for people to see how great he is as a person. I think people know that. But he's also bashable. He gives bashable energy. Anyway, thank you, Donnell. We got a lot coming up. You don't think he gives bashable energy? I don't know what's so bashable about me. Bashable energy, son. He gives a little bashable energy just every now and then. He kind of sets himself up for it. A little bit. Just a little bit. A little bit. You know what he be doing. He likes the attention. No, but it's not. Yes, he does. But we're here just to, you know, look out for each other. Hold each other down. And that's what we're doing. And that's like you said about when the energy got off. Like everybody that I'm around, like, you know, in life you choose. Like a lot of times we put our energy into trying to make somebody think of somebody else. Yeah. We focus on the negative people. Then you look around yourself. You look around and you say, yo, I feel good when I'm around this person. I feel more motivated when I'm around this person. I feel more inspired. And like Adrian, Javante, everybody I fuck with, I'm around these people because they make me feel good about what I'm doing. And I make them feel good about what they're doing. And we just come together and just make shit. What you're describing is energy transfers. Because you get to a certain point in your life where you're aware of who makes your energy go up. And you're aware of who makes your energy go down. So at some point in your life. And I still think of it. Look at Fionni. Fionni said it made your energy go up. But then you started realizing it made your energy go down. Yeah. And you had to be out. And I'll tell you, to answer that, anytime you call me. I was talking to her about her fiance. I know, but I'm talking about you. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. That's going to your point. When I see, when you call me, my energy goes completely down. That's a lie. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. He's lying. I pick up the phone. He'll pick up the phone. And he started. He started running. All the jokes that y'all be hearing now, I've heard months ago. Yeah. He runs stuff by me. And I know he's running it by me. He don't say, I want to run this by you. He just start talking. And I'll be like, when he could tell by my reaction whether he should run with it or not. You want to tell your story? Remember that time I FaceTimed you, right? Do you remember? I was with Dave, right? And he, I text him. I said, I'm with Dave. We want to FaceTime. He was like, yo, what you want? It's late at night, right? He says, it's too late. And I said, I'm with Dave. We want to FaceTime you. That nigga did like this. And he go, ooh. That nigga asked that phone. I would have answered anyway. Yo, no, you think you're talking about, you're just like, hi, Dave. You was happy. That's not true. Yes. But I just knew that it must have been something good, which it was. This is me. gossip a little kiki a little kiki and he respects you too i respect dave dave told me i'm gonna be a billionaire one day i told you today he told you that but then he told me he also told me he told me at radio city music hall he told me you did tell me that but then he told me he told me at radio city music no you did tell me that but then he told me at radio city music hall you told me that oh my god but he said no he said he said i'm gonna be a billionaire one day he said he said i have billionaire energy and i you know what he i think he's gonna be right yeah but nobody will ever know you're gonna byron allen it huh you're gonna byron allen it yes byron allen does not get the props that he deserves no he doesn't why do you think it is i don't i don't i think first off if people don't know his story byron allen byron allen was selling jokes on the tonight show for like 25 dollars a pop he's like 14 and 15. and then he started building these relationships with all these celebrities and then he had this simple show it was years ago i think it was called entertainer studio i'm mistaken and all it was was what they doing today he'd just be interviewing motherfuckers i think shack was one of the people just late night and he had these shows he had no deal with nobody he would go to each individual market and license it to them and it was like okay if i bring you this numbers you give me that right and it was like his shows used to come out some weird times 1 30 or 2 o'clock but a lot of people went to his show whenever you saw his showing it he was getting the money yeah you know he bought the weather channel he owns the weather weather channel another thing people know mostly all of those uh judge shows all the judge shows emily k williams all of them that's all byron now and did you think about this and this and the thing about it is that the griot that's byron now byron allen could probably go anywhere in brooklyn anywhere almost with the baseball captain not too many people would even know who he is yeah i think the thing about byron he uh he never had for for for a black comic to reach the level he reached you usually have like a vehicle meaning like we know chappelle has chappelle shore like you know kevin hart's had stand up in all of these movies you can't really pinpoint the thing byron had that put him in that position but he's just well he had business swag great at business right i remember even when i was doing a show years ago um it was uh comics unleash i did the show and i had this joke that was borderline it could be like um sexual offensive or whatever something that was like for tv and i was telling myself but it's a funny punch line and he was like this he was like i'm trying to get you that house in malibu wow right and he just like all right and i it took me years later like all right i could push that but what i get out of it right or i can do this to get something out he's the best yeah but you ended up but that didn't work for you because you're better off being raw and edgy you get more out of being who you are you know why because that's you know why because that's what people know of me i i'm telling you every year i try to evolve some kind of way in comedy whether it's the way i dress or think or whatever and i'm like okay for me this is some real uh even when i was when i did my last special i said dave i want to tone down this or that he said he said do that on your next special don't don't do it now hold down for what no when i'm sad it's certain i look at my set there's some certain word choice that i i use you use the gaysler you say fraggle maggie i said in its 90s form but i said it in the context of a punchline no you didn't yes you literally i saw you on stage and you literally go watch me say a whole bunch of i'm not supposed to say and you just started screaming no and it's just a regular show i'm not talking about that i'm talking about my special oh that's like i'm saying that i know if i would have made certain tweets i would have got a different play they could have played out i know certain um uh media shows i could have done but i know that it was raw and it's not just like a compromiser not being but it's another side i want to be able to do an hour special and watch it with my son you know i want to be able that's what drives me i want to be i watch raw with my father yeah and delirious i know but i want to it's a diff i i get what you're saying i mean there was nobody hotter than eddie murphy you couldn't keep your kids away from watching so you might as well don't you want to be hot don't you want to be hot yeah i could be mild i'm not do you want to be you're trying to with me again here you go what are you talking about no mild is a trigger word no i'm not naming festival bell you got hot you got mild you don't like mid or mild you can't use this thing what is wrong with him no what i'm saying it would be a challenge for me and i could do it to do a set like a a a clean set but still have raw energy yeah and that's just even in the way i speak like on my special i say the n word a lot you know what i'm saying because i'm so used to saying it but i'm like if you cut this cut that it's the same it's the the joke is the same it's the same thing but it's a different way to present it so that's that my church you got any church announcements no no um the donnell rawlings show it's it's funny enough it's a show that helps you with your mental health through comedy yes it's on the donnell rawlings the channel youtube channel the donnell rawlings show but more i mean other than that i'm just touring doing dates and just connecting with creative people and just keep moving and enjoying what i'm doing well if you really want some uh help with your mental health i am having my fifth annual mental wealth expo saturday october 11 from 11 a.m to 4 p.m at the joelle and diane bloom the joelle and diane bloom wellness and events at the new jersey institute of technology in newark new jersey it is a day of mental health education and healing in honor of world mental health day it is a free event from 11 a.m to 4 p.m saturday october 11th newark new jersey to joelle and diane bloom wellness and events center uh debbie brown is going to be there jason wilson is going to be there dr alfie breland noble dr rita walker elliott connie jay barnett just some of the best mental health professionals on the planet today and it is a free free event because contrary to donnell rawlings popular belief i don't make a dime off being a mental health advocate say what's on your mind you're right i'll be here on 11. i'll be there seriously yeah i'm gonna pull up 11 a.m to 4 p.m come on pull up i'll put you on the panel you can talk about but you got to be serious i had tyrese there last year i had him entire him and jason wilson on the panel together did he cry he actually did he actually did it's that kind of event i've tried there before yo it's that kind of event um let's see what's going on with young thug i'll be honest with you i'm too old to talk about this okay i am i was born in 1978 i don't give a about who's snitching and who's not snitching i don't care okay i'm telling you that right now i didn't care when gunner snitched uh i just want music give me the slaps give me the slaps give me the slaps now when thug came home what i told everybody was based off the rules of the street based off the laws of the land y'all supposed to give this man a hero's welcome right because the streets always talk about how you shouldn't snitch and you're supposed to hold it down you stood on it ten toes down i said the same thing with bobby smurda y'all y'all didn't give bobby smurda a hero's welcome okay y'all don't even really with bobby music like that no more you know what i mean he'd be doing it in his drawers and such good y'all they could do a lot of shaking this down yeah he'd be like in his yeah he'd be like doing all bobby smurda oh i missed that yeah they said he trade he peed his underwear i don't believe that i don't believe that yeah look it up bobby smurda smutty nah google it i bet you come up with some boxes and okay well you're proving my point even more there's no reward for this real that y'all be on i don't give a about none of that that's all starting to fade now yeah being square square is the new whatever it is think about it though look what six nine did yeah still selling records he told on everybody yeah but see six nine never bothered me from the beginning because six nine we all knew he wasn't built like that anyway but the people that like his ain't from the streets they're from the internet right it's like folks it ain't from the streets apparently they're all from the it's just a new day yeah that shit is over anybody you asked me earlier yeah he was talking about that yeah she said donnell um would you snitch i said oh i'm not gonna be i just don't put me in a snitching situation i just don't want to be around people you can't snitch you're a civilian i can't snitch i'm a civilian okay if we see something we can say something the point i'm making is i don't want to be around this the situation when you even see like that even happen i'm with you if i'm around that there's something wrong okay the only thing i'll say about this situation is that young thug has become a victim of an environment that he created because if he hadn't have reacted the gunner the way he reacted to the gunner nobody would be holding him uh accountable like they are now and i'll also say Out of all of the calls I heard, 21 Savage is by far one of the smartest young men out here doing it today. And the first time I interviewed 21 Savage nine years ago, you can go look it up on YouTube. I was having a conversation with him about the end of the interview. I said, man, you're a smart young man, man. You got your head on your shoulders. And I'm listening to him talk to Thug, and the things he's telling Thug is absolutely positively correct in regards to how Thug should have handled Gunna. 21 said, you have Gunna's hand in your career. If you come out and you say, this ain't that, then nobody going to look at it as that. Simple. Simple. Simple. So shout out to 21 Savage. All this other shit, you know, that ain't my business. I could care less. Is this it right here? This the 21 clip? Yeah, play that one. Go scroll up. Play that right there, Chris. Listen to how this man talking to Thug. Nah, I'm on West. Man, bro. I'm trying to drop an album the same day Gunna dropped, bro. You need to, I'm, I'm, I, y'all sent you a song. Put a verse on it. That nigga ain't sending you no song? He's on your check list. I ain't seen no song. When he pulled it up. That nigga ain't sending a song. He dropped Friday, didn't he? I hate that he ain't going to know he found me. He dropped Friday for sure? Man, 100%. It's a Friday. I can hold his shit back if I want to. If my album don't be ready, I can hold it back. But Drake already sent the song called, the name of my album. I'm going to drop my album on the same day he dropped it. And it's called Business. That ain't the clip I want. I didn't understand that, though. Thug, I didn't understand Thug wanting to compete with Gunna. That's his artist. Love you later. It was the other clip. Yeah. We'll find it in a second. Hold on. It's the clip where 21 is telling Thug basically what I just said. About holding his career in his hand. Let me see. Roll down. No. Roll down. I have no idea what's going on in this world. Yeah, I was just like, damn, I should open this shit. I've been listening to Teddy Swims for the last year. I'm with you. Ain't nobody got time for that street shit, man. You the one used to always want to talk about you from the streets. No, I didn't. Now you wear high heel loafers and you don't want to motherfucking be from the streets no more. It's called style, son. Nobody got time for that shit, man. Or maybe it's that one. Young Thug at 21. Plus Gunna and Unfook. Yeah, that one, that one, that one. One, two. No, the fourth one. That one. Click on that one. I don't know, though. Man. Bro, you seen your brother, Pete? Most definitely. But he said you told him to do that. Man, watch out. Man, on God, that's what he telling the street. Man, on God, he kept. On that same God, he kept. He ain't coming to take a plea and say a lie. I don't know. Never mind. This ain't the clip. I don't speak nigga like I used to. Who recording this shit? Right. Oh, this is the one. Now, this is the one for real. This is the one. I ain't finna say nothing about you on the internet. I ain't finna let the world know I ain't fucking with you until justice. That's what they supposed to do. But ain't nobody really saying nothing about you. Nigga trying to go at him to get clout. Yes, they have. Dirt. Dirt. Dirt. Dirt says something to him, but that's it. Like, wham, them niggas ain't doing all that shit. Wham, unfollow them. Yeah, but, I mean, that's just, that little boy shit. That ain't really saying nothing to them. That's just like, damn, I'm disappointed. Yeah, but that's still announcing what your condition is, man. I ain't saying they wrong. I'm just saying. Yeah, they jumped the gun. Nigga supposed to have a conversation with you for that anything. That's just how I look at it. On Wham did, though. I talked to Wham. Wham, so he get on the phone. Hey, you talk better than him do that. All right, hey, no, you know, all right, say less. He did the impression of his man. Say less. Dang, I'm fine. Off the top. Soon to happen. We don't even look right talking about this shit, man. I mean, I'm just looking. It's just hard for me to take, like, the street talk and the energy. That nigga got skinny jeans on. That's just. I still haven't got it. Niggas will still kill you when you stand. I know, but they can't hide the gun, so you know. All I'm simply saying is we too old to be talking about this. I see this shit and be like, who the? Who the fuck cares who's snitching? Yeah. Where's the music at? Oh. And everybody rich. Everybody rich. That's my. Now, see, now we can have a conversation about that. That's my biggest issue. My biggest issue is when God puts you in position to where you are able to make a great living for yourself and your family and you still running around doing street shit. I've only seen that shit in three ways. Jail, dead, or you end up labeled a snitch. Oh, yeah. So at some point, you got to cut all. That shit the fuck off and just live the right way. I agree with you 100 percent. I say it all the time. I mean, you can't if you can't switch that environment, you got to leave it and you're not going to be you'll go crazy trying to save the entire hood. But that was our generation. We understood that now. Everything social media and they just it's so much more about image. Yeah. Come on, man. If we had that kind of money, he's doing it back in the day. Why are you going along for the crime? Right. Yeah. And listen, I'm not sitting around acting like our generation had it all together. We grew up on some wild. But you know what I'm saying? We grew up on some very wild people. But our rappers did a lot of lying. Our rap was entertaining. Our rappers were smart enough to know they was just entertaining. That's what Chris Rock made the CB4 movie about all the rappers that were pretending to be gangsters. These motherfuckers are still out here while and for real, for real, and end up in jail dead or labeled as snitches. Those are the three routes. The three end results. Of. Of all of that shit that y'all doing. Internet beef is the funniest thing. Like, these motherfuckers actually go on live and be talking to each other like the police not watching the same shit that they be out there. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Last week, Donnell, we had a conversation. I don't know why it says. It says, I made a controversial take that Drewski was better than Key and Peele. Now, you are a veteran of sketch comedy. You are on. Arguably. The greatest sketch comedy show of all time. I have two that I put up there as the greatest of all time. It's my 1A and 1B. I can't say which one is better. It's Chappelle showing in Living Color. Right. For me. Right. I personally never found Key and Peele funny. No disrespect to Key and Peele. I respect them, everything that they built. I think Jordan Peele is amazing in films. I just personally never found Key and Peele funny. I say that Drewski is the greatest sketch comedian of this generation and potentially the last one because I don't know. I have him over Key and Peele. What say you? I don't think Drewski is a sketch comedian. And I look at it like this. I give Key and Peele a lot of props because to be able to come behind the Chappelle show and hold your own, I think if Key and Peele came before the Chappelle show, people would have liked it even more. But Drewski, to me, I don't know too much about him, but to me, he's like a reality sketch guy. It's a reality show. His stuff is like reality based. No, he does reality too, but he does sketches. He does sketches. I don't know. I can't. See, you're just a hater. You just don't find sketch. First of all, I'm not letting you. You said you don't consider him a sketch comedian. Why is he not a sketch comedian? Let me tell you this. This is what I'm telling you. What I know of him and what I see of him. I don't know the stuff. I see that what I see is that record situation he did. Could have been records. Yeah, which is genius. Fantastic. You know, it's genius. That could be considered a form of sketch, but that's more reality. I think Drewski is. In his own lane, I think he does his own thing. I'm not knocking him. I was like, I would say, who the fuck is this Drewski guy? Then I started seeing him pop over the place and I was like, I didn't know if he's a rapper or whatever. That's taught. He was doing funny stuff. He's in a different lane. He's got different tools to get his shit out. With social media, streaming, all that type of stuff. And he's a funny guy, but I don't think there's a place to like to compare them if one is different. I do different forms. I think it's a place to compare them because I think that when you're talking about raw talent of sketch comedians, right? People who, because sketch is a hard thing to pull off. You know this. Right. Like everybody can't do sketch. Drewski can do sketch. Okay. But this, but I'd say he could do sketch. What do you think, Javon? No, let me say this. Let me say this. Let me add to this. Let me add to this. What it is, is he can do sketch. He's in funny situations. But me, when I'm seeing, when I'm not knocking anything, when I see him doing his stuff, I still see Drewski. No, you don't. How you gonna tell me what I see? I still see him. Put your glasses on. Shut the fuck up. Put your glasses on. No, what I'm saying is like, I see the personality Drewski. I don't see like, when like Key and Peele, like they'll play, like they would do extensive makeup situation to look like somebody else. So does Drewski. But then maybe I just don't know enough about him. Key and Peele was a show. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. The structure. They had a structured show. Right. So what, how would Drewski live in a, in an SNL environment or a Chappelle environment or. I think he'd be even better because he'd have a whole writing team. He'd have producers. So when I just talk about raw talent, I laugh when I watch Drewski's sketches. I do too. I don't re I can't really remember the times I've laughed at Jordan and Peele's sketches. I laughed too, but I would put Drewski more in comparison with like Daisy Bantz. Why? Because of the generations? Just for what they both do. Get wise. Sketch wise. I think Key and Peele is a whole nother thing from Drewski. I think if Drewski had. Opportunity to do with Key and Peele, that he'd be great. But for what he's doing, I don't think it's almost a comparison. I think we're comparing platforms. I think y'all are still holding TV in a higher regard than the internet. No, you're telling us that's not what we're doing. That's not what we're saying. We're telling you what the difference is. TV and the internet? Yeah, it's like they came into two different eras. When Key & Peele was popping, Instagram, all that shit wasn't popping. Nowadays, and I'm not taking away from me. What's your favorite Key & Peele skit? I think it was the one when they was crying. I forget what it was. In a gangster situation. He was sweating. The teddy bear. The teddy bear. It was something to do with teddy bear or something. Now, what's your favorite Chappelle sketch? Probably Prince. You see how you can just name that off the top without saying it? I think it was the crying, the teddy bear. Yeah, I mean, that's the difference. But, you know, I'm not comparing either one of them. It's just two different lanes. Who better, Chappelle or Key & Peele? Everybody have. Yeah. Put the helmet on. Let's play the game, man. You got to put the fucking table to the back of you. I guess nothing is, I don't think anything will ever, nothing will ever surpass Chappelle's show and what we did on Chappelle's show. But I can appreciate what Key & Peele did, too. To me, they was funny. And again, I say coming behind, getting that same time slot, coming behind what people consider one of the best sketch shows in the history of television. That's a lot of balls to be able to do that. Because you're going to. Always be compared to that. But I think that they held their own. Was it better than Chappelle's show? No. No, I don't think Key & Peele was whack at all. I'm just saying that I personally never was like dying laughing. Yeah, like Chappelle, you crying laughing, going to school, quoting this shit the next day. We didn't do that with Key & Peele. To me, Key & Peele did not infiltrate culture. Not at the time. Not at the, yeah, it was the timing, though, of Key & Peele and when it lived. To me, personally. I'm in a younger generation. How old are you? Well, goddamn. I'm 38. Oh, 38. Okay, yeah, so you are a younger generation. So, Drewski or Key & Peele? Drewski. See what I'm saying? I think Drewski. Drewski is funny. I agree. He's funnier. He's funny as hell. But it's not the same. But that's all I was saying. He's funnier. He's hilarious. As him. Like, him as raw talent, he's funny. He's just really funny. I don't get that from Key & Peele. But why don't we, here's the thing, why do we always have to compare, why we can't just enjoy the moment. What fun would that be? That's why you're a piece of shit. That explains it. Like, what right there, son? Who doesn't want to be an asshole? Asshole lives forever, son. Listen, let's pay another bill to do some asking idiots, man. Can we do that? Can we do that? Observe the North American dad. 50s. Great polo collection. He enters his vehicle information on Carvana. An offer appears in minutes. Remarkable. He squints, reads it again, smiles and says, dang, that's a good offer. The highest form of approval. No haggling. No hassle. No one called him boss. He's still on the couch. Astonishing. Sell your car today on Carvana.com. Pickup fees may apply. Javanta, this is the part of the show where guests send in questions. Okay. And we ask an idiot. Can we go back to the group chat question? We can start with that one. In our group chat, it was Ask Donnell. I don't even know if this is true, but this is a question that came up. Because I don't know if this is true. Why haven't more people from the Chappelle Show had superstar careers themselves? A lot of, well, it wasn't, first off, it wasn't really a cast on Chappelle Show. Charlie had a great career after, I mean, while I played Charlie. Bill Burr was part of the show. You see what that happened to him. I think some of the people that were in the camp that you see the most, they did do. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. Yeah, everybody's doing pretty well. But even if you look at the cast, Neil Brennan has had a fantastic stand-up career. He's got some of the most. Oh, what's the word I'm looking for? Some of the most, I don't want to say daring. Daring is not the word I'm looking for. I can't think of the word I'm looking for, but unique, unique stand-up specials. The Three Mics special was something I've never seen before. Blocks was something I've never seen before. And Neil dares to be different. And it's so funny, like, I've known Neil for years. I've seen him go through two transitions from the young writer who wrote Half-Baked with Dave, you know, to a guy who's like, selling these scripts, but it wasn't getting the green light. So he wanted to get into directing. He called my manager and said, yo, I'm doing this little short with Donnell being it. Because he wanted to start directing from that to when he did stand-up. Like, first he was just a writer. And he was like, Dave, they're not green lighting my movie, so I don't want to direct. He did that, did very well for himself on that, and then challenged on the stand-up. He was a door guy at the Boston Comedy Club years ago. And I don't think anybody ever looked at, and Neil, what he's become. I have. I give Neil his props all the time. I don't think anybody would. I know you give him his props now, but I don't think anybody in the past looked at Neil about that he would take stand-up as serious. It was always like he was an awesome writer, a producer, but the actual, I remember when he first started doing stand-up, I would go to open mics. We used to do, it was this comedy spot on Tuesdays in Manhattan. It was called Nails. It was a black robe, right? And I told, I said, I said, Neil, you should come down here and do a spot. He came down here, right? And then he looked at that room. He had headphones on, right? He looked at that room. All I remember, it felt like the headphones were still in the air, and I think it jumped, ran out of my mouth. Like, dang, I'm not fucking with that ghetto ass crowd. Yes, yes. I think that, I think Chappelle's show has, I mean, superstars is a strong word. Like, like how many superstars actually exist? But you've got some great stars that have come from there. But you've got to look at them. You? You've got to thank you. But you've got to look at it like, I get the question all the time. It's, Chappelle did this for you. Chappelle did that. I get it all the time. And what I say is like, yes, what happens is, he created a platform for people to see what I was capable of and what I was doing. It's not like he trained me or taught me anything. It was like this. He didn't groom you. You need to be, you, stop it. Some people, some people just need to be playing on the same space. I did, Snoop Dogg did a special. I did a special for Netflix a while ago, right? It was called, I forget. "Fuckin' Around." "Fuckin' Around." Snoop Dogg, "Fuckin' Around." Right? And I saw on this page that all these comedians that was on, I was like, "How do these motherfuckers keep missing me? Keep missing me." And I had talked to my agents and stuff. I was like, "Yo, I really want to do that." You know, I got a decent relationship with Snoop. I was like, and they, everybody's like, "We're trying. We're trying." They couldn't do it. I was like, "Wait a minute. I got him in my phone book." And I just texted him. I said, "Yo, I heard you got something going on Netflix." I went in. And he hit me with the black fist sound. He said, "I got you." Next day my people called and they were like, "Guess what? We got you, Snoop." I'm like, "No, you didn't. Nigga, I can show you the text right here. I got the receipt." Rob Markman: You still going to give them their 5%? Yeah. But that's- Rob Markman: You shouldn't. That's a different- Rob Markman: You got to eat what you kill. That's a different situation. Rob Markman: Huh? Rob Markman: That's a different situation. Rob Markman: Huh? Business is, you know, agencies, I put it like this, in a lot of cases you pay to play. Agency gets you an audition, gives you an opportunity to make millions, and then maybe that doesn't happen. Then you're doing a gig or whatever. You give them a cut. It's just a business to me. Rob Markman: Nah, bro. You got to eat what you kill. 5% for something that they didn't do. Now if they help you with the money, it's just a business. Rob Markman: Now if they help you with the money, it's just a business. Now if they help you with the contract, maybe. people's religion the way people talk the way people behave is all based off what's going on well i think social media has become the source of information whether it's misinformation or news rather but i don't necessarily think that it's going to take the place of the good book my personal opinion but i think people go go to it first as a resource of information whether it is 5% for something that they didn't do. You going to ask for a picture? I'm not going to ask for a picture with Tyrese. Tyrese don't fuck with me. Why would you do Tyrese? Because I posted a picture of him crying. I did the fuck. I posted a picture of him. It was a Jordan face, but I had Tyrese. Man, that's fucked up, man. You and Tyrese are very similar. He said, yeah, I would have expected that from somebody. And I don't know. I'm like, you don't know me. Y'all take yourself very serious. Ain't you a Capricorn? No, Sagittarius. And he told me to take it down. He said, take it down. Sagittarius. Oh. Yeah. Nah. And you took it down for him? Hell no. Oh. And Paula says, would you have sex with the prettiest girl in the world if she had no thumbs? Well, I don't get thumbs up or anything anyway, so. What's the fuck is the problem with the thumbs? That's the situation. Why would you give a fuck if she ain't got no thumbs? That grip. You can do it with no hands. I'm saying, I know thumbless people got different tricks. They might do like a double crasp or something. Why you like, oh, you like to thumb for the other. Oh, my God. That's what you like? You like to hitchhike down there? I know that's you. That's what you like to hitchhike down there? I'm retired from comedy. You like thumb wrestling? It ain't fun no more. You like when somebody put it back there and start thumb wrestling? This used to be fun. This used to be fun. What? This used to be fun, son. No, I'm just trying to figure out what the problem with the thumb. Like, why do you need thumbs? Which girl had sex with a pretty girl in the world if she had no thumbs? Yeah, I mean, no high fives, but yeah, why not? I had a bougie moment like that once in my life. Somebody had thumbs? Like, no missing limb? Why she had a young, the girl had an inverted nipple. Oh, I've never seen one of those. Yeah, so like one of her nipples was poked in. You don't have one? Yeah, there's only one that was poked in. And when I asked her about it, I was like, what's up with that nipple? And she was like, oh, that's the one everybody like to suck on. And I'm like, ah. I'm out. Not that, it's everybody. Like, ah. She's my ex. She said, ah. Everybody. Like, man, she was fine, too. Like, ah. Trying to get it to come out. I just, you know, I think about that all the time. I'm like, why did that turn me off so much? I don't know why. I think somebody with both inverted, but I ain't never seen two. For real? I don't think I've ever seen an inverted. I don't think I've ever seen an inverted nipple. Really? What does it look like? It's just flat? It literally looks like an invisible finger is poking it in. Oh, my God. Like a hole? Yeah. So it looks like a nipple. And it looks like it's poked in. Like, you ever seen them toys the kids play with? Oh, yeah. Poppers? Yeah, that's exactly how it looks. But if you suck it, will it, like, pop out? I didn't try. I know many have tried. I didn't try. And I don't know why. I'm like, why did I let that inverted nipple stop me from sealing the deal? I don't know. I don't know why. Look what I'm getting. These are the messages I'm getting. I've watched a bunch of those. Killed Tony. Don't really like Tony, but it's interesting. Hands down the best one. You killed it. I watched it last night. It's so fucking good. You did good. Sean, man, you got to watch it. You did good. This is fucking unbelievable. It keeps getting better and better. And now, I can't stop laughing. Oh, fucking Tony shouted you out on it, too. What'd he say? It was funny as shit. Yo, that shit, he's like, it was something to do with the tranny. Whatever. And then he said, Charlamagne's going to have fun with this. That's why I was waiting for you this morning to be like, I was waiting for that nigga to be like, go to the video. What happened with the transgenders? You got to watch it. You got to watch it. You got caught on? I said, you got to watch it. Can I do a remix of that song for any black guy watching her right now? Yeah. We will, we will fuck you. It's probably true until you find out. She has a dick, Donnell. That's the first place the white guys look. You ruined me. It is. I'm going to say, Charlamagne's going to find that clip of you going, we will, we will fuck you. You are, you are fucked, Donnell. I like Kill Tony. I just don't like when Donnell be on it. Unless he's bombing. See, I like seeing certain people bomb. That's awful. Huh? That's awful. Why? That's really. Joe, that's why you're a piece of shit, man. That's why they don't trust you. Yeah. No, come on. You ain't laughing. You sorry, mom? No. When she told you about it, you died laughing. Let me tell you something. This is what you don't respect when we do, right? Bombing, the word bomb. You can't even joke like, to a comedian like this, you bomb. Like, hold on, nigga, I don't bomb. Yeah. It's very, that's a triggering word. Especially. You're a Muslim comedian. You should never say that to them. I don't think she, I don't think, the thing is, I didn't think she bombed. It's just that she didn't have the experience. She didn't know how to deal with the situation. She was still learning. But bombing is a very, very hard, that's a, bombing is a very, you shouldn't have so much fun saying it. It's not that I like watching people bomb. I like people try to come back from it. You think it's funny. It's hilarious. Joe. When a person is on stage by himself. Yo. And it's just a microphone and it's the crowd and the crowd ain't feeling them and they looking at that light like, God damn, how much time I got left. Yo, get dirty. It's about time. That shit is. Joe, you said you knew that tonight? Oh my God. And when they fighting, oh my God, man. I'll tell you what's bad. Like, motherfuckers, when we used to do all the cornfield shows, motherfuckers was bombing in the cornfields and you could really hear crickets. Right. Like, real crickets. That silence was like. Ooh. Charlie Marxiano says, Do we learn or just remember what we already knew? Um, I think we learn. No, you're not going to expound on it? No, I just want to say I think we learn. Okay. What about you? I think. And let's see what I think is. Yes, that's the whole point, Donnell. See, what we do is we learn from our mistakes. Yes. What do you think? I think sometimes, you know, as a woman, we have this intuition, right? And we know better, but we still got to learn. You know, like, you're going to learn or you're going to have to see for yourself. We have all the best advice in the world when it comes to relationships, friendships, but then we just got to go through it. So I think at some point we kind of know, but we still have to learn. Did you know what your fiance? I had to learn. Like, I had to learn. There were some red flags that I ignored because I always see the greatness in people and I just, like, they're downfalls. I'm like, oh, well, this will get better or this will get better. But in the end, I kind of knew. What's his race? He's, um, really? He's from Guadalupe, which is a French, Caribbean island. So he's white? He's black. Oh. Mixed a little bit. Mixed with what? White. What does he present as? Ethically ambiguous. So he looks white? No, he looks. Did Dr. Uma be disappointed? No. Man, I'm about to get fucked by Dr. Uma. He's a black man. He looks like. I mean, I love him, nigga, but. Don't he owe people money? Yo! Don't he owe nobody no money? Yeah, so what's going on over here? Dr. Uma has more money than Barack Obama. Right. Barack was hitting us with $10 every day. There's some people that's mad at me because I keep saying that Dr. Uma did what he said he was going to do. Which is? He raised the money. He bought. He bought the building. He renovated it. It presents. It looks like a school. But you got to have the people that know how to create an actual infrastructure for a school. I think that's what he fucked up at. It's like if you wanted to build a comedy club. Right. You ask for donations. You get the money. You go buy the building. You even renovate it to make it look like a comedy club, but you have no experience on how to launch a comedy club. So what you're trying to say is that while he was saying he wanted to build a school, he didn't know how it was going to be ran? Yes. So he sold motherfuckers a dream. But where's the money? No, I don't think so. Where'd the money go? Okay. And it's just sitting there. Yeah. It's renovated. The FDMG Academy is there in Delaware. But now he got behind on some bills, so I think it's up for auction now. So it's not like he didn't set out to do what he said he was going to do. I just think he just didn't have the people to help him create an infrastructure. I just did what you said. We call that scamming. Right? How is that a scam? I'm not saying it's a scam, but we want to hear the school bell ring. But you got to get the right people to help you make the school bell ring. You're supposed to have that part down before you ask. Right. Michael Blackson did it. Who? Michael Blackson. He built in Ghana, though. Yeah, but. But Michael's situation is different. Michael just put the money up to the people who knew what they were doing. So he didn't have nobody that knew what they were doing? Clearly not. But, I mean, that was always his thing, right? Like, he wanted to do. He wanted to do it on his own. But after a while, if you know it's not moving a certain way, and you don't have the infrastructure. Stop taking people's money. Right. You're still getting the cake? I'm not sitting here arguing that one. I don't have no problem with him. I like Dr. Kumar. I did a joke about him on my special, and he took it lightly, so I don't have no problem. It's just that. I don't know. That's the question everybody's asking on any of his pages. Where is the goddamn school? That's the question people are. Javante. Javante. Javanta. Jesus Christ. Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Javanta. Stay with me now. Javanta. Have you heard his jokes about me? - Everybody keeps telling me about it on stage. - Oh, now it all makes sense. - Why you fucking so hard? - Everybody keeps telling me that he got like five, 10 minutes on me. Is that true? - No, seven, strong. - Oh yeah, yeah he does. - You ain't heard it. You don't pay no attention. - I'll say it to you. - No, I know the, I know the, yeah, I know your jokes. - I done heard it a few times. - Oh, you heard it? - Yeah. - It's crazy, it's funny? - What? - You wrote it, didn't you, Aiden? - No, no, Donnell, Donnell got them in his pocket. - Aiden wrote it, Aiden wrote it. - Because you know what those jokes come from. - And then, you know how you like delight? Like when you see niggas suffer, when they boo, when I got them laughing at you, I go extra long with this shit. - He be like, "Oh yeah, they with it." - Yo, what, what's they with it, nigga? - Yeah. - Yo, I'm like, they still laughing, nigga. You that shoulder, nigga. Yo, if they laughing. - Some nights he back off of it, some nights he lean into it. - Yeah, sometimes it don't hit. I'm like, "Ah, nah, fuck that nigga." - It depends what room you in. - Sometimes I bring this, I do a callback. I say, "Y'all remember what I said "about that nigga earlier, right?" And do it again. - The Rico Graham says, "What's the biggest mistake "we can make with our money?" - Giving it to Dr. Newman. - Stop not investing. No, the biggest mistake you can make with your money is giving it to everybody. - Right. - I think you, and you, I remember, Jay-Z, I interviewed him when I was at Power, years ago, we interviewed him. And he was like, "If you can get through that first lick, "that first lick, the first grip of money, "where you're like, 'Oh, I got you. "'Y'all give what y'all want,' and everything." He said, "It's the second time when it really starts to pop." But that's the hardest thing to do, is protect your money from people, family, people close to you, 'cause motherfuckers will suck you dry. - Yeah, not investing. I think when you get a lump sum of money, you don't, don't put it in the proper, don't diversify your money. I think that's a big mistake as well. - Yeah, I agree with all of that. I think the biggest mistake you can make with your money is not saving it. I think that, you know, a lot of times, we be in such a rush to keep up with people, or, you know, you're looking at social media, and you want to keep up with the latest trends, you want to have the latest designer clothes, our car, whatever it is. What you in a rush to spend your money for, man? My daddy used to always say, man, stop treating your money like it's on fire in your pocket. And you just got to get it out, you know what I mean? Put that shit in the motherfucking bank and let that shit sit there for a minute. 'Cause there's going to be a time when there's something you really, really, really, really want to do, and you're going to really, really need the money for. And you're going to want to go be able to touch something. I've never spent a television check. - Oh yeah? - Never spent a television check. Never. Have not. All them late night talk shows and all that shit, I never, ever spent one check. That shit is just sitting in a bank account. Pay your taxes on it and keep it the fuck moving. But that's when you have, you know, different, you have enough streams of income coming in to where you don't have to touch that money. - But that's all financial literacy too. A lot of people just don't know anything about that. Especially from hood, they just don't know. It's like, I got to get to the next check. - Yeah, let's do one more. What else we got, Alex? Scroll up. What else you got? Yeah, I don't have no clue on this. This is a good question though, but I don't have any idea. Charlamagne, any advice on vacation trips for the boys trip for men that are 30, 35 and single? I've been with my woman for 27 years. I don't know nothing about no goddamn boys trip. Going away on no boys trip. Why? Who wants to go on a boys trip? - They think you do. - 30 to 35? - They think you do, sir. - That's why they ask you. - What about you, Donna? - They think you trade. They think you trade. - Yeah. - You be doing that. - What? - Going on boys trips. - I don't go on boys trips, but-- - Yes, you do. You be telling them, come to the river. - I don't be like, hey, guys, let's have boys night, or some shit like that. - What do you call it? - Niggas pull up. - It just be niggas I fuck with. - Yeah. - Yeah, but you cook for all the guys. - That's not a boys trip. - And then y'all go tubing. Y'all be doing the kayaking thing. - Guys don't prepare like women do. Guys are like, oh, I don't do it. Guys night out. I don't even do guys night out. - Yes, you do. - No, I don't. - So what about when you be going down the river and it be you and another guy in the tube? - I only person that's in my motherfucking, yo, first tube. I don't fuck with the tubes. I got a canoe. I fuck with canoes. - Whatever the fuck. - Only person, only people that have been in my canoe is my son and a woman. That's it. I ain't never doubled up in a canoe with a dude. - Never? - No. - OK. All right. Well, that's it, guys. Javante, Javanta. - Thank you. - Javanta. - Thank you for joining us, Javanta. - Thank you so much for having me. I had a really good time. - Absolutely. Donnell Rollins, thank you for joining us. You can listen to the Donnell Rollins podcast starring Javanta Roberts, OK, co-hosted by Donnell Rollins. You can't even get the fuck out. Look at you. Good for you. Good for you. As always, if you listen-- oh, Adrian, thank you, brother. Absolutely. Make sure you check him out on Kill Tony. He killed it. And as always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to the podcast and think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right, too. It's the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.