A.J. Brown, Kenneth Walker & other names you NEED to know

[gunshot] Damn, cast! We're getting to her fish number 30 today. And whoop, whoop, whoop, I got a big one, I got another big one. It's a-- Oh, what kind of garbage is this? No one wants to-- And who's calling me? I'm fishing right now. I'm gonna see football. It's not fantasy football. I see it in its fishing season as what it is. Oh my gosh. It is fantasy football season. And I am not prepared. What am I going to do? I got to call all my friends. Field, are you ready for the start of fantasy football season? Field data, initializing. Projections, process. Rankings, in place. Key matchups, located. Graph strategy, prepared. Hot takes, determined. Field data, complete. I'm ready. Wow, AI field is super locked in already. All right, I'll call Mike. Michael know what to do. Can you'll stop? Where are like Daniel stop calling me? Hello? On vacation for the first week of the year. Of course, Mike's on vacation. I'll call Liz. Liz always knows what to do. Liz, are you ready for the start of the football season? Hey, Daniel. Yes, I have been recording "Facts vs. Feelings for Weeks." I am so ready. Are you? I am on "Facts vs. Feelings" every week. I gotta get ready for the start of the season though. It's go time. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Greatness running back of all time. I'm ready for the start of the season. Welcome into fantasy football. Field fiddles with fiddle sticks. Rubby baby bunker. Rubby, rubber. That one works. You can do this, Steve. You are ready for the start of the season. You are prepared. You are good to go. You are the third prettiest person on fantasy football after Liz and Field jakes. We can do this. It's the start of the season. Let's go play the fantasy. Fantasy. You and the whole six, so one, oh. Focust. Fantasy. Fantasy. Focust. Focust. What's good friends? Welcome into fantasy. Focust. Football excited to be back. A little bit of cold open action there. That was fun. That was fun. Thank you for using with an absolute fanger. That was a good time. We always knew that Field was memeable though. Yeah, I feel 100%. Oh my goodness. Already locked in, Liz. Yeah, I've been doing factors for feelings for a minute. That is true. Actually, so we're ready to kick off fantasy focus here. Those super pumped. I'm so happy to see you guys as faces. It has been a minute since I've seen you guys. Listen, we got a lot of stuff we're going to talk about. We're going to dive into a bunch of really fun football today. The biggest story lines of the off season. We're going to give you a bunch of logistics. But first, if you guys will just indulge me, I haven't seen YouTube beautiful people in a minute. Yeah. Like what happened during your off season? Give me like two or three things that happen in your life. Let's see. You know what? We went to Hartford Yardgoats. Stop it. You're bearing the lead. Did they win? They did. Yeah. Yes, of course. Obviously. I watched several seasons of Love Island. Okay. Lives that. Oh, no. I had a kid again. I'm not having children. Congratulations. Three girls, so yes. A little over a month ago, a month and a day ago, I became a father of my third daughter, Tatum, who has been absolutely awesome in the wild this month of our life, for sure. The jump from two to three is real. If there are parents out there that have three or more children shout out to you, it is an absolutely insane adjustment. But we're having a great time. It's great to be back here in fantasy focus. We've had a very, very fulfilling month. Super. She's adorable. I don't know what to say. I'll be working until I'm 94. Yes, I know. I have three daughters between weddings, wardrobes, barbies, like, they'll get me started on college. Yes. I'm hoping for rather a scholarship or like, yeah, there's, there's got to be some sort of other solution. So like we knew obviously that field and Chapin had welcomed Tatum. And one of my favorite pictures that you sent was you holding the car seat, like the car seat that locks in. And casually, he's got this like a little bit of a triceps. So yeah, it's cool. Not letting yourself go. I mean, obviously because you've got your third kid. Yeah, I mean, I don't have a choice. I actually just stay in shape by carrying children in the car. That's fair. That's fair. Because the irony is that my four and a half year old, who's, I mean, she, like, we, she now is a runner. Like, we go on runs together. No. She's like, that's capable. Wow. Mobility wise. But she always like, can you carry me, Dad? I'm like, why? She's like, because you carried the baby. So we're dealing with all that stuff here. It's been an awesome month. I'm so happy to be back though, guys. And we do go like every day now. Yes. Until basically the end of time until the end of time. Yeah, we got a lot of that. We got a lot of that. Nice of list. Actually show up for work. Yeah. Mike lay. Um, Mike lay is currently. Do we think it's on a beach? Yeah, on an island on a beach list. You did your island vacation appropriately earlier in the off season. So we appreciate that. That you're here. But what tell me about your off season? What have you done? It's been awesome. Well, I went to Vegas for the Scott fishbowl live, which is always fun. It's very fun. And then the family and I flew to Seattle to take in a World Cup game. Mike Suns birthday present. He's very into soccer. He plays on his school as team. He did that. He turned 13. That's what it was. Oh, there we go. Look at that. That's something. Yes. Me and my glasses and no makeup on. Thank you very much. Social team eating clams and wine. Also not showing me the picture of us in Hawaii, where I look fantastic in tan took the kids on a snorkel adventure. We did it. There we go. A zip lining adventure. My little one, my nine year old did nine zip lines. Two of which were half a mile long. She was the first one to jump. I was so proud. And then we we paddled around a waterfall. But it was mostly the big one and the little one and me in the middle on the paddle board. Also working my triceps. So that we fall out and fall down the waterfall. But yes, it was an awesome eventful. I love that. The perks of living in LA Hawaii is not like for us right now. Hawaii is like the Odyssey to get out. That's right. I'm Hawaii. I would love to go back to my family. And it's just like, yeah, good luck. Any of my kids on it. It takes time for me to fly to Hawaii. That's a minute. I'm just saying. So besides fishing Daniel, what is you to this off? So first off, for what it's worth, I did take up fishing. And I want to give a big shout out to my buddy Scott at the Akite Akai acts and seaside, seaside park New Jersey as well as my buddy Ray, who works at grumpy's tackle Ray life long die hard Cowboys fan. The man bleeds that blue star is two kids are actually in Troy and Emmett. Come on. So huge die hard Cowboys fan, but get big shout out to those two guys that hooked me up because I have been fishing a lot. I just did a whole, you guys know I don't always do social media super well. Yeah. I did a big disconnect. So I was just like, I want to go somewhere where I'm stuck. Oh, you got off the grid. I got off the grid a little bit. You stopped answering texts. Oh, most of the time. Really new, really new thing for me. I also went on tour, which most of you guys know because I talked about it incessantly, but I went out with my buddies in the band. Emory did a little over 4,000 miles. It was a ton of fun from Bloomington, Indiana to Jackson, Mississippi. All the way up to Quebec, all the way on the East Coast, did a festival up there and back down. So it was a blast, just a really great time. And now we're here. And now we're ready. We're back five days a week, field like you said Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. Eastern time, 7 a.m. Liz Lose a time in case you live over in the West Coast. You can find us a million different places, by the way. You ready for this live on the NFL on ESPN YouTube page. You can find us on the ESPN fantasy app live. You can find us live on the ESPN app. We're also live on Facebook. You can find us everywhere that you listen to podcasts, Apple Spotify, I heart, just you name it. We are there. And you can catch us on ESPN to every Wednesday this off season, which is going to be really great being able to have those shows on E2. And then we'll get into a regular season cadence on E2 as well. So a lot of places to be able to catch us as you are coming back, getting ready for fantasy football season. And how about a big shout out to our buddy Eric Moody as well, who was in the chat. We love it if you guys can hang out in our YouTube chat, ask a ton of questions. And with all the things going on guys, it's important that we let you know live on August 20th in New York City. We are doing a live show. It's going to be a ton of fun. Me, Liz, Field and Mike Clay are going to be there. It is going to be a blast. Go to fantasyfocuslive.com for all of the details that you need. And honestly, last thing we have a mock draft tomorrow. So a little bit of prep for that. Mock drafts are always a blast because I love being able to just hear you guys' thought process while you're making your decisions. I think that's all the logistics. Got a bunch of the stuff out of the way. We're going to continue to have fun. We'll take some questions a little later on in the show. Let's dive into the 10 biggest storylines of the offseason field. Jates is kind of tough to narrow it down just to 10 different things that are best though. We did our best and we're going to start with the one that took a while to actually get done. But age around is officially a patron. I want to apologize. So those that are watching the show right now, if you see me staring at my phone right here, Ralph, there's a reason why is that we are in the same way. James Studio is last year. Yes. We have new microphones. These are on sort of wheelies and I had a cup of tea. I'm trying to in my three-kid world trying to keep my caffeine intake steady, but not drink too much coffee. Okay. Had a cup of tea immediately nailed it, knocked it over, complete more on move. Thankfully, we cleaned it up. It was literally a group effort. Yes. Six minutes before the show. So I have no more paper notes. Those got washed out. But I do have my phone. And then five minutes before the show, Liz spilt her drink immediately after you did. You didn't you went and rethrow her into the bus. You're choosing for all of them. All right. AJ Brown officially a Patriot. The deal got done after June 1st for salary cap reasons. The Eagles got nothing for this year back. Right. No player going back. There was no draft pick in the 2026 draft. It is a first round pick in 2028 plus a 2027 fifth round pick. Sort of a salary dump. Filly feels like they can get better. Let's talk about the AJ Brown side of it guys though. But Patriots and their offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniels has already said. that AJ Brown's closest comparison that he can kind of come up with was Gronk, who of course was a tight end. - Right. - AJ Brown gives the Patriots their best receiver. I think at least physically most talented receiver since Raynimos. - Yes. - They haven't had a great run of receivers since then, but they've had guys like Julian Edelman, who are very different body types. And AJ Brown, one of the best deep threats in the NFL. There's a trivia here. I was sort of stunned by this number. What do you think the average length of AJ Brown's touchdown catches isn't his career? - I'm gonna say 14 and a half yards. - Okay. - Oh, I was gonna say 18.7. - Okay, both of you, not quite there. 26.5, 20. - I was wondering if it was over 20 because we know that he is consistently hitting those marks over 20 yards. - Amongst the best deep threats in the NFL, Drake May, led the NFL in deep completion percentage last year. One of the best deep ball throwers, not just in the NFL now, whatever the pass, call a decade. Or so he had seven games last year with a 30 plus yard touchdown pass. The upgrade from K-Shawne Booty and Kyle Williams to AJ Brown is that deep threat for the Patriots is real. They paid a big price for him. He's the most talented receiver they have on the team. Drake May is a stud. AJ Brown, Jackson is wide receiver 10 for me. - I think that's about right. I think I have him ranked similarly. I love the, as you're pointing out, the marriage of skill sets between this receiver and this quarterback for the exact reasons you pointed. Out also 102 targets vacated with Stefan Diggs no longer on the field. And remember, Diggs was working back from that ACL injury. So his snaps were being managed. So there should be more volume there, especially when accounting for the addition of Romeo dobs as well. I am a little bit curious about this K-Shawne Booty hype in camp. It wasn't Kyle Williams. He hasn't been making the noise that we thought maybe it was. And there were certainly some trade rumors buzzing around Booty, but he seems to be showing out at camp. I'm not saying obviously that he's going to be a draftable option, but just someone to maybe listen for a drum beat on his progress. But as far as AJ Brown, wide receiver 10 for me as well. - I've got him at wide receiver eight. And I love everything that you guys just mentioned because marrying Drake May's deep ball ability with the skill set that AJ Brown has just feels like a match made in heaven for this offense. So I think we're in a really great spot there. - How about the Eagles? - Like are you optimistic now? Like is Devon Thesmith ready for prime time? - This was the Heisman Trophy winner. - First round pick. - I don't think he's not ready for prime time field, but I also don't think that he's going to vault into that wide receiver 12 low end wide receiver one status. He's still in that Eagles offense, right? They add McIleman in the draft. We can talk about him and all the things. You know why they decided to bring him in. When they made that move, it was the writing on the wall. We all knew that AJ Brown was gone as soon as they drafted McIleman, right? But I do feel like with Devon Thesmith, I've got him right in the middle, probably like wide receiver 16. And I think that's fair, like where I'm going to see him more often than not. He will be the guy in this offense. I'm not that worried even though they added on Tavy and Wix. Also in the offseason and they added Eli Stowers eventually to take over for that Dallas got it. They've got some pass catchers there. But I still feel like Devon Thesmith is kind of where he was to be honest, even before AJ Brown got traded. He was in that wide receiver 15 to 20 to 25 range, weekend and week out. I don't think that really changes. - Why'd receiver 15 range? I'm worried about the skill set of, I don't believe that Devon Thesmith has a traditional alpha skill set. I do think he'll see 120 targets. And I think he benefited, frankly, from AJ Brown on the opposite side of the field to work as a compliment. Nick Ciariani said himself that in order to replace the 100 plus targets that AJ Brown left, he was going to have to use everyone. Regardless, I do think Smith will lead the way. I'm just not sure he's going to be this top automatic. It's not going to be a copy and paste situation. He's not going to automatically replace what AJ Brown did. They're very different players in terms of skill sets. But again, I think probably 120 targets. - Yeah, I think I'm in the same range as you guys. So a strong wide receiver too. And the reason why I'm not in the top 10 range for Devon Thesmith, which I think is a not unreasonable thing for someone who want to leap to is, if you look at the guys inside my top 10 rankings for wide receivers, I would say other than Rashi Rice. So I think kind of makes his way into the top 10 in part because of the circumstance. I don't think Rashi Rice is some premier wide receiver town. He just absolutely soaks up target. - We're going to talk about him in just a minute. - Yeah, we will. - Devon Thesmith is like a cut below an AJ Brown, a Drake London, and Justin Jefferson, of course. I'm on Rashi A Brown. These guys that are just supernova wide receiver town. So Devon Thesmith a little bit lower. Plus guys like question marks about Jalen Hertz, he stunk last season as the throwers. - Yeah. - Now optimism because of this new offensive system, which does seem like it's going to feature more of a rhythm and timing passing game. But not enough for me to push Devon Thesmith into the top 12 of my wide receivers. - I'm with you on that. - All right, let's move ahead and talk about kind of you alluded to with the Kansas City Chiefs. - Yeah. - Big news here is Ken Walker III coming over to this offense. And there's some things with KW-3. Liz and I talked about this on Facts versus Felines last week. The good news with Ken Walker III last year, 1300 yards from Scrimmage, most of his career. Played 17 games. That's the first time that's happened. We love being able to see that. But he was only running back 22. In part because Zach Sharbinay just stole all the goal line work, scored all the touchdowns in that offense. But we saw how good he was in the playoffs. We saw that Super Bowl run. And now that it's going to be the lead guy in this Kansas City offense field, there's a lot of different moving parts here because you got them at home. It's returning from injury. You got the wide receivers that we've been talking about. Travis Kelsey's another year older. When you look at Ken Walker III, how high is too high when you're looking at ranking this guy, being what this offense could be? - I think if you put an RB8, that would be too high. - But I have Ms. RB9. - Okay. - Yeah. RB9 for me is Ken Walker III. So there are a lot of things working in this field. - True RB1 though. - Yeah, I mean, you got a big contract. He's a very talented player. It always felt like Seattle was not ready to fully embrace Kenneth Walker III because there are elements of his game that I think will could drive a running backs coach, or even offensive corner, a little bit bonkers. One thing that Ken is very focused in on, and this has been one of his great strengths in perhaps a limitation, is he always wants to hit a home run, right? Like he's like a baseball player. It's like he had their smash it out of the park or strikes out. Has a four yard opportunity, bounces it outside, turns it into a one yard opportunity, right? The chiefs are desperate for home runs right now. The chiefs had one running back rush, one of 20 yards last year, 20 yards. Like that's not that far in the NFL. And they had one run from a running back last year of 20 plus yards. So they had one of the most explosive backs in the NFL. And I was an EBIT Johnson fan. It's their fifth round pick out of Nebraska. But not enough that I'm sitting there going to myself. Like, wait, Ken Walker III got this money. He doesn't have to share carry. He's like, no, he's got a clear path to, I always have to do the math now because it's a 17 game season. Like you could easily push 250, 260 carries for Kenneth Walker III. Yeah. Full of cable holes, the pass catcher as well. I think 40 to 50 catches in range. I think he's an RB one. I'm on the lower end of that because last year was the first time he actually managed a full 17 game slate. So it was a little bit of a durability concern there. But I agree with you that the thing that he does the best is explosive play. I think he was the RB three in breakaway runs and the RB six innovative tackles last year. And as you mentioned, the chiefs were desperate to invigorate this otherwise list list running game. And by extension, his presence takes some pressure off of my homes, especially coming off of the knee injury. So there should be less scrambling. We like that. It opens up the middle of the field for Travis Kelsey, probably in his last season. And also, I think as a pertains to Rashi Rice, there's some play action opportunities that he could benefit from as well with defenders keying in on KW three as well. So holistically, I like it for KW three high end RB two for me. Yeah. And I like it for the past catchers because if I mean, just like any other football team, if you have a better running game, it's going to make it easier for your past catching across the board period. And with Patrick Mahomes coming back from that ACL injury field, you would started to talk about Rashi Rice. He's a, I think he's an easy top five wide receiver when he's healthy and on the field. The problem is he's had some concerns off the field. Dude was in jail this off season. Recovery him from knee surgery. Yes. So there, there's definitely there's red flags, not just yellow flags. There's red flags. When the guy's out there, he's one of the best wide receivers in fantasy football. Do you feel like he's one of those guys that you would want to try to stay away from in drafts? Are you like, you know what? He's still a good value to me. I like what I like his skill set. I like what he does. I've been drafting him as normal so far. OK. On Saturday, we did the back together football weekend show and chef. He was on there and he was talking about how like he did not in his response to questions about Rashi Rice's availability. Make it seem like he is anticipating punishment. OK. So we will see until you know, until the NFL has concluded its own investigation and said, well, we're the other we don't know. Last off season, we were bracing for some sort of punishment and we eventually got that significant punishment for Rashi Rice to be clear. He's a greater risk than other wide receivers in the top 10 for not just I don't think he's as talented as a Drake London or Malik neighbors, but also like the guy needs to put it together off the field as well. I have a point where you have enough off the field things where you are wondering is the next one going to be the one that costs me the fantasy manager. How many games he's got to make a choice like as an individual if he stays healthy and stays behaved, he's got a chance to make $30 plus million per year. If he doesn't, then he might be out of the league in two seasons. That's the choice that he has to make. Yep. I think the chief side is fairly straightforward and running back front. I'm not totally certain what to do with judari and price yet. Yeah, you want to hear your thoughts on how high you guys are or not. I got thoughts. So I would love to give you my thoughts. I'd love for a list of the first. I want to hear from you because you did first draft with Mel and and greenie for obviously the entire time. So when you're looking at the judarian price, come out of the draft. What can you tell us in case we didn't watch enough college football? So I mean, it's tough to like it's tough when the other running back is Jeremiah love. Sure. It was a true backup running back for Notre Dame. He was also a kick return maven for Notre Dame. He did not handle much work. He had one game with 15 carries in his career. 15. He never had more than 15 carries in his career. So he had the freshness. leg benefit. He had the benefit of, you know, defenses are keying in on him much differently than where Jeremiah love college football. As we know, you're seeing great variance weekend week out in terms of competition. He's an excellent peer runner like he is a fun guy to watch. He's powerful. He's strong. He is fast as all get up. The pre draft process really good to him. There's a little bit of a chicken versus eggs situation though with him as a past catcher. Six catches last year for jargidari and price six six total. That's like a game for Jeremiah love. Now the question is, is that because should our price isn't capable of catching the football effectively or is it because oh yeah, we're going to throw them all to a running back. We're going to throw it to the guy who went third overall in the draft. So I have him as RB 25 to on to our price. But I that's sort of a past catcher plus a little bit of accounting for eventually Zach Sharman A being in the mix and maybe a manual Wilson being good enough to take a little bit of work out of the way early. Are you guys more optimistic? I am more optimistic. I don't think he's just a passive option when compared to Jeremiah love. I do understand everything you're saying. And we also have to recognize that this year's draft class was pretty weak at the position in terms of overall talent. So all of that being said price did score on a higher percentage of his carries in 2025. Then love behind the same offensive line. And you did mention the Zach Sharman A situation that his timeline from his recovery timeline does make price a little bit tricky because we're not quite sure the volume that he's going to receive. But also he's on an offense that managed to win the Super Bowl with the third highest rushing rate. Why would they change that? Right. So price is going to get his I do like him as a low end RB two. I think great value where he's going in a draft by the way a fantasy draft by the way where the position dries up so quickly. Yeah. Is it ever I'm with you. I'm with Liz and I'm even higher on price than Liz is I've got him as running back 19 inside my top 20. A part of that is the idea that the guys behind him. I'm not worried about. I know I'm not saying you mentioned Emmanuel Wilson Georgia line like those guys just don't scare me from that perspective. And you look at what the Seattle running backs have done. Ken Walker the third was a top 20 back top 20 running back for two of the last three years was at sharpening wasn't last year because sharpening stole all of those touchdowns. But now we're going to have half of a season without Zach Sharman and I'm using half of a season as air quotes vague. We're not sure how much time are you pointing out the difference between return to sport versus return to. Yes, even once he comes back he's going to have to be able to return to that performance level. So there's a rough taking off that needs to occur. So like yes, there is a chance that like down the stretch. I think Gideon price could maybe lose a little bit of value while Zach Sharman a ramps back up. But beginning of the season middle of the season, I think there's enough value that he's going to deliver RB two numbers and I've got him inside my top 20 because of that. Can I follow up on that just strategically speaking because I feel like the quick narrative is to say that price is going to be a sell high guy, right? Like you can hear every fan of fantasy analyst saying well, you're just going to sell you have to figure out what is that right. Before Zach Sharman, it comes back. Yeah. Figure it out. But if everybody knows that, how effective is that strategy? Great question. Probably not very effective. And I honestly with where this kid landed and the way that Seattle wants to run the football with how often they ran the football last year and they don't have Zach Sharman need to do it with. It's going to be a jadarian price and two dudes. And I say that more disparagingly than what I mean. But like it's just average guys. I'm in. Yeah. I don't do this more of a positive person. It feels like yes. Just two guys. You're right. But I am in on jadarian price because of that. So I'm interested to see you've got him as running back 25. Yeah. 25. If I 19, it's not all that different. But you know, I think we're all on the RB two depending on how your draft falls and the number of people in your league RB three Lex area. Yeah. So we do, by the way, we have rankings throughout the rest of the week. We're going to talk about why I think tears are valuable. I have my tears dropping. And another thing that I think we're going to try to key in on more during the preseason is not just ranking players by position, but also giving you context on like the next player that we're going to talk about feels low in his positional rankings. For me, I'm sure people will be like that. That is way lower than most of your colleagues. That's correct. But relative to all other positions, it's still high enough that I can reinforce that I believe in the talent. So we're going to talk about not just where he fits amongst running backs, but where like if you're doing a Brock Bowers versus Justin Jefferson conversation, like that's a really important one. If you're at the back end of the first round or you're at the beginning of the second round, like you're not getting Brock Bowers. If you don't take him at pick, if you're in a 12 team league, if you don't take him at 13, you're not getting Brock Bowers at the end of the third round. Those are important conversations for us to have that we will vet out over the next five weeks. But we just dove into Giderian price after that. Let's talk about the other rookie running back that everyone's more excited about field. I was a little bit confused from and we're not a football show. We're a fantasy show. Yeah. I was a little confused from a football perspective, but I do want to know, Jeremiah Love what made him the number three overall pick by the Arizona Cardinals. What does it that he brings to the table? Everything. There's really no hole in his game. He is like Beach on Robinson. We've had a couple of running backs in recent years that were categorized as like sort of campness, top end prospects for their position. Beach on and also action gentie. Jumir Gibbs has emerged as that, but Jumir was not being regarded in that same light. Yep. When he came out, of Alabama, just a few years ago, Jeremiah Love think of him like Beach on Robinson and more like Beach on Robinson, the national gentie. I think action gentie can get to huge fantasy heights. I think it's more down like gentie. If he becomes a top five running back is more in the Jonathan Taylor model where it's like absolutely slay as a rusher and maybe add 30 to 40 catches. He's a both Jonathan Taylor and action gentie are capable pass catchers. Their best value is just dominating as a runner. Jeremiah Love can be like beach on which he rushes for a thousand plus yards, but also snags 75 catches. I just have questions about how quickly it's going to happen in Arizona because have you guys seen this team? Yes. This team is I want to say they're overdraft King sportsbook like favorites. I'm sorry, underdogs in like every game, but won this upcoming year. Believe the projected win total is three and a half three. Okay. So that and it's it's lowest in the NFL. Like people are already, you know, Jersey swapping Dante Moore into Arizona uniforms for next year. Like it's going to be a bad year. The offensive lines fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's best. I'm not like super optimistic about the offensive line. I don't think that this offense is going to be scoring a ton of touchdowns other than maybe in garbage time. And there are some some good numbers to support top 10 running backs in the rookie seasons. Over the past 15 years, you've seen top 10 rookie running backs top 10 picks average 17.4 fantasy points per game. There have been some useful ones for sure. Like say, Juan was unbelievable as a rookie. We've also seen a lot of just like pretty solid guys like examples. Ash and Jenty are we 15 last year in a points per game basis. Beijon are be 17 as a rookie. Christian McCaffrey are be 13 as a rookie. So we've seen guys that have similar skill sets. Tim Beijon and CMC. Those are like models for Jeremiah love have just kind of average rookie seasons. I had Miss R B 14. I have Miss the 25th player overall. So I still think he is deserving of being a top three round pick. And he'll be going much earlier than 25th overall. I'm just concerned about this being a hot mess offense. Yeah. I do think it's going to be a hot mess offense. But I also think that because of his past catching skills and PPR friendly formats, he can perform. He's my RB 10. And it's interesting that you say like these are average performances. Ash and Jenty. Yes. 14 fantasy points per game is an average performance also in the top 11 players at the position by the end of the season. The last nine running backs drafted in the top 12 of the NFL draft all finished top 12 in fantasy points as a rookie. So 12 team league you finished 12. That's an RB one, especially with the disparity at the position right now. So RB 10 for me PPR friendly format. I love it. Also, I love that you mentioned the skills at 40 screamage touchdowns over his last two collegiate. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Yeah. The one thing that does give me maybe a little bit of hope about this offense is that Jacobi Brissette has shown garbage time. But he's a garbage time king. Right. So he might be too much of one. They might have to play Carson back. What's that's a possibility. That's if you're in. And you had coach Michael Flore. Obviously also. Yes. Of course. Yeah. Record number of head coaching vacant spending in the team. Lots of changes in that. Last thing I want to mention is I should have mentioned this much sooner is like they begin their off season signing. Taller Al Jiro to a two year $30 million contract. Yes. Buzzing camp as well. And I don't put too much stock into preseason depth charts. They're going to always put rookies low. But like I don't think Taller Al Jiro is going to just collect dust all year. If they're on the goal line, I think there's a really good chance that Taller Al Jiro is going to get first crack. James Conner for now is still on the roster. We'll see how that entry Benson's future shakes out. But it's not like Jeremiah love part of the thought process behind action. Genty last year, which to be clear, we were too optimistic. I was too optimistic on action. Genty was like that running backroom stinks. Yeah. It's awful. Jeremiah love goes into a solid running backroom. I mean, it's a decent running backroom at least. So I have some questions about the overall utilization. I have some questions about the offense, but I love the player. So I do have him as a top 25 player on the overall board. All right. We had a coaching change and offensive coordinator change actually in loss. Anjelus with the chargers. Mike McDaniel comes over a couple layers here that we can talk about with this one. And I want to start with the Maureen Hampton because I think he's going to be the highest drafted charger here. That hype train is rolling. It feels like right now. Earlier this off season, he was in the running back 12 to 13 range for a lot of us. Now he has moved up for a lot of ESPN rankers inside the top 10. And I am curious. Liz Lose. I want to start with you when you look at O'Marion Hampton as the hype train gone too far or are you in on him being an RB1 for fantasy squads this year? I do have him ranked as an RB one. We look at the offensive line. Both Joe Alt and Rashon Slater cleared for practice back in the game. O'Line is healthy. Also, obviously you mentioned McDaniel like all McDaniel is fascinating to me because he is as innovative a play collar and as creative a run game genius as he is awkward public speaker. So those things can live at the same, all the things can be true at the same time. But we also have the addition of tight of blocking tight end Charlie Kohler coming over. I believe now he's the highest paid blocking tight end in NFL history. So there are some. There's going to start blocking out some clear indication of how he's going to be used though, especially with that sort of investment. All of those things lead me to believe that Hampton who last year coming out reminded me a lot of David Montgomery in terms of a skill set could really perform when all of the pieces come together. Yeah. And he's, you know, hopefully going to stay healthy on like last year when he was hampered by that ankle issue. Yeah, I feel like negative Nancy. I have him as RB 13. So a little bit lower than Liz. There's one thing that I keep coming back to with a Mara in Hampton. One thing. Two years and $10 million might have been 12 for Keaton Mitchell. That's, I knew you were going to say that. This is like one of those signings I just can't let go of and Mike McDaniel teams are so good about behind the scenes content now. And Mike McDaniel has made it. It's been made very clear like the reason why Keaton Mitchell is a charger is because Mike McDaniel wanted him. What does Mike McDaniel love more than anything in a player speed? Keaton Mitchell flat out flies. Hampton really can run to for a guy if his dad. There's a 444 guy at 220 pounds. He's a beast. But Keaton Mitchell is like different level of speed. That's, I can't quite get that out of my cross. That's why I'm a little bit lower on a Mara. Money back to 13 there. Hard to make 13. Okay. Offense hold on. Okay. No, because I have him as a running back five. Wow. Hold your horses. Let's go. I love it. I got him already amped and all the way up at RB five. Five of his nine games as a rookie as healthy games. He was a top 20 running back. Three of those games. He was a top 10 running back. Ooh. And a third of his games as a rookie. He's tasty. Showed an incredible pass catching ability, which is something that I really like as well. Four of his games. He had five or more catches, which is great. Tons of ability within that pass catching ability. And you bring in Mike McDaniel and you give me all that goal line work. And I think this offense takes another step. I get Keaton Mitchell. I look at it though as a team mismanaging their salary cap. Then I'm worried about it being a mover spending in Los Angeles. And I think that's the way that I look at it. So I am all in. I'm very high on a Mara in Hampton. Have him as RB five right now. I can love that. By the way, you have to sign a contract for at least five million dollars to afford a one bedroom in Los Angeles. And that's the actual reason why there's a lot of other parts. You can speak to that much more. You can. That's true. Yeah. Liz is renting out her second house for a little under two and a half million a year. So false. No. I'm not renting out anything. Do you think I know how to clean a gutter? To like be a project manager? I tried that. See me on a ladder like fixing things. I tried that this off season. Okay. I would say that's good. DIY. Not mice. I striped a lot of other pieces though. Justin Herbert, Lad Maconkey, Quentin Johnson. How are you approaching this charges offense? No, Keenan Allen. Yeah. We'll see if that, you know, that could see classic like end of training. Late signing. I'm back. I'm still sorting through the wider severs. Lad Maconkey, clearly the number one amongst the guys were ranked right now. But again, the player that I'm most excited about is Justin Herbert. Two of Tungo Veloa has become radioactive. He's he is in a battle to win the, I think he will win, but he's in a battle to become the Falcons starting quarterback. He was not good. He was the only one who took on the largest cap it I've dead money ever in the lead to get rid of him. And he's still in a battle with. He was freaking awesome for a couple of years there for fantasy. We let the NFL in passing yards in two of four full season. He had a lot of highs there with Mike McDaniel. Justin Herbert is a better thrower than two. Yeah. He's a far better runner than two. And I think that the supporting cast is not as good, but the offensive coordinator is good enough that I've got Justin Herbert all the way up as quarterback six. He's an excellent runner. Right. Seven games last year in which Justin Herbert threw for at least 225 passing yards and ran for 30 or more yards. Now some of that's at scrambling, but still it's a tool he's got at his disposal. I've got Herbert way up there as quarterback six ahead of the likes of Joe Burrow, Patrick Bahomes, Jackson Dart. So optimistic on her bow this year. I love that. That must be great value also. I was going to say, yeah, the ADP draft that if you've got him at six, you could wait and get like targeting him. 13 round. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about him a bunch too, Lizard. I do want to mention something about Ladma Conkey really quickly if we can bring it only because I'm sure that we all get asked all the time. Like, who is this? Who is this year's JSN going to be? Right. And I am not all because that was last year's surprise. So who's it going to be this year? Now, I don't think every year, obviously, we know can't copy and paste, but if you look at these circumstances that allowed for JSN, it's breakout, third year player that gone, new play collar, heavily targeted since his rookie season, all of those apply to Ladma Conkey as well. Yeah. And I think he is an interesting breakout. And because he kind of slumped in his sophomore effort, there's a value that there's a discount that you can get to him. So if you feel like throwing a dart and it sounds like we're all high on the chargers heading into the season because of the health, the offensive line, because of the, because of the offensive coordinator changes. So I definitely would like a piece of this offense if I can get it. And I think that's one we want to invest in that still is being discounted. Maybe outside of Hampton because of last year's slump. Yeah. Let's move and talk about DJ Moore being traded to the bills Chicago's offense is now adjusting Liz. It looks like we got that trio that Roma Dunes a Colston, Loveland and Luther, Burton, trio. As our resident bears fan, can you just help us kind of like decipher what it is that we should be doing with these pass catchers in fantasy? Well, you can decide if you want proven talent and a traditional alpha with Rome or a potential wildly efficient breakout candidate in Luther or scrap that and just invest in the tight end. I love this kid. I think I haven't as I think my tight end three on the season. That is the place that I'm going now. You're going to have to pay up if you don't want to draft a tight end early. Then he's not for you because he's going around the fourth round. Sure. So Liz, good call there. I was going to say so the headline is DJ Moore gets traded the Buffalo. We'll talk about the Buffalo side in a minute. But my biggest takeaway is I think there's more takeaways for Chicago than. Yeah. Yes. Close to love is my guy this year. He's the one I'm walking away with the most in drafts record. Really? He's at tight end three. It's going to be hard to crack that top two tight ends. Rock, Bowers and core, Shraimick, Brian playing a different game right now. But this is why overall rankings are so important. If you go to an ESPN doesn't have an average of every one of our rankers top 100 to top 150. But if you just go look across the board and others, Mike and I think Carabell and Tristan have theirs up already. Colston, Levelyn way higher in mind than other people. I think I have like 34th overall right now. Wow. Car, he looks like the next great tight end of the NFL. He was ridiculous for the Bears. We got the opportunity these last year. This trade was a confidence boost to, or maybe a confidence shout out to him and Colston, and excuse me, Luther Burton III and Roma Dunez. I've got both of those guys in my top 30 for wide receivers. But my headline is Colston Lovelin. That's my headline here. I'm all in on that player. Also, if you cannot decide between the two wide receivers, you don't need to and you also don't have to invest in Levelyn. I just want to say this in terms of strategizing for the draft over the past decade with the exception of Tyree Kale, number one wide receivers who shared the field with tight ends averaging 15 or more fantasy points per game. All were pushed outside of the top 15 fantasy producers at the position. So basically it's hard to have an elite tie down and an elite wide receiver unless you're Travis Calston and exactly. If you think that Lovelin is going to be elite, these two wide receivers are not for you. Not to be discounted according to court. And the bill side like DJ Moore isn't interesting. What I think is a really good player and you reunite with Joe Brady where you played probably his best football. I'm glad that you started this way because my question was basically, but like is it a premiere wide receiver still? I don't think it's a premiere wide receiver. I also don't like Buffalo, Joe Brady talks all the time about everybody's got to eat. You don't make this trade for him to just be an accessory, but I also don't like I thought it was a really good return for Chicago. I thought it too for DJ Moore was surprising candidly. So I had DJ Moore's wide receiver 27. Josh Allen's going to get his as a runner. Yeah. James Cook led the NFL in rushing last year. Yeah. He got a lot of guys in that offense. In some ways, a trading a second round pick for a guy making $28 million a year is like, oh my gosh. Could this be like, could he set into a Devonthay Smith type value? I'm not very at. I still have his wide receiver 27. I also think the trade was more for Josh Allen to give him a sure fire vetted, reliable go to receiver that you could trust, especially downfield, which was something Buffalo didn't have. So if you look at it in terms of trying to capitalize on this generational talent that you have a quarterback in the Super Bowl window at your avail, just give him someone reliable. Yeah. Hopefully that will work out for everybody. He's pretty cheap right now. If you want to go after DJ Moore, he's not, you know, considerably expensive. He'll draw 100 targets. Exactly. He's going to be the wide receiver one in that offense. But I do think that his days of being a low end wide receiver one high and wide receiver two are behind him. It does feel like we're in a different spot. Great. All right. Before we move on, we want to take a couple of questions from Chad. Shout out to our buddy Eric Moody. Make sure that you follow him at Eric and Moody. He's answering all our questions and saying, I want to be people. This first one comes from Chris S6270. A lot of running back handcuffs this year. Any specific ones to keep an eye on. He feels like a lot of backfields are going to be splitting carries to start the season. Come on, young guy. It's field. I'm with you on that. Come on, young guy. He's currently dealing with some sort of soft tissue thing right now. I'm trying to get him not worried about it at all. Every, every couple of years we have sort of a backup running back just overtake the starter during the middle of the season. The starter is not a bad player. It's the backup is just that good. Come on, young guy. That's my name. My favorite hit. My favorite hit running back. Ben John, Holly, Pipped him once. That's right. That's right. I really like Kenneth Gainwell. Really late as a value pick and PPR friendly formats coming off of a career season, the Rashada right white role in Tampa Bay, Baker Mayfield loves to use the safety of Alba. I believe he targeted the running back. position eight or nine, the eight or nine most times for quarterbacks last season. So I think he's going to see a lot of volume there. And I would have picked both of those two running backs to be honest. I will say that and you can call me a homer here. I think that if anything were to happen, Jemure Gibbs, Isaiah Pacheco would become a low end and startable running back in this lion's offense. I don't expect him to split time and be a David Montgomery the way that Dimo was the last couple of years with Jemure. But if anything happens, heaven forbid, Jemure Gibbs has to miss time. I think Isaiah Pacheco is going to be starting running back for those weeks that one more play. I don't know if we can call me handcuff anymore because I do. That's a thing. I'm way through this. But I think that that's a RB two in terms of second RB. Yeah. That is rising. All right. We got one more question here. This next one from our chat comes from Veronica Veronica Veronica Townsend. How about Patrick Mahomes? Are we going for him or staying away? Is it Mahomes or the field for week one? It seems like he's looking pretty good on recovery. I did see that Dan Graziano did a little sit down with Andy Reed field jates talked about Mahomes recovery, what their expectation is week one is not a guarantee. But that is what we're searching for. It's a guarantee. Let's think so. Okay. The NFL is putting Monday night football in Denver, Colorado with the chiefs playing in the game. If Mahomes is not expected to play, you don't think Justin Fields is going to bring the the judge for week one if he needs it. I believe Patrick Mahomes is I've never I don't know if you guys have heard this before, but like built different. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Okay. I have a more gelatinous form myself. So I would say he's built different. Yes. That's fair. Yeah. He's playing week one. Veronica, I have a little I have him as quarterback eight, I believe. And that's so much lesser reflection of Mahomes, the real player than it is the fantasy asset. The secret sauce for him last year was of course that he absolutely scrambled his life off and that up getting hurt on a scramble, by the way. Patrick Mahomes got hurt against the Broncos. And if there's a night football game many, many years ago, he ruptured his kneecap or dislocated this kneecap and it was on a quarterback. Sneak. He has not quarterback sneaked since the chiefs are going to be smart about Patrick Mahomes or another year. Now he can still throw the football very effectively. You can't totally reduce his rushing upside. He's going to just scramble naturally. I don't think he'll be running nearly as much, which is why he's quarterback eight for me. I am not out on Patrick Mahomes, but I'm not really targeting him in drafts unless it is one of those things where it's like he's on the board and I'm like, it just feels like it's been too long and he should come off. I think there are at least some concerns with his return from injury. Another year for Travis Kelsey, when is that going to potentially not happen anymore? Xavier Worthy hasn't taken a step. What happens if he still doesn't pay off? What happens if Rishi Rice gets into another situation and now he doesn't have all the guys? Like there is enough there that I can be concerned for it, but I still feel like Patrick Mahomes is Patrick freaking Mahomes. So like, you know, he could be a QB one, but I'm not targeting him in draft. Yeah, I agree. I have a QB 10. Here's the beauty. You don't have to Veronica draft Patrick Mahomes because the position is so sinking deep in his field already said Justin Herbert is available much later. So you don't need to waste that early round capital on the brand name if you don't want to. All right. Let's keep it moving. We got a couple more topics we want to get to. Yeah, we're going to rip through this. Kyle Murray, Trader of the Minnesota Vikings. We'll talk about Kyler in a second, but like where this really matters. Yes. I heard some dummy last year. I don't remember what number was talking about how he was. What was the phrase? Quarterback. Quarterback agnostic. I heard someone say that ridiculous. It was Mike. That's what it was. Mike's gone. He's on a beach right now. We can blame him. Justin Jefferson had five straight top 10 seasons and then finished as wide receiver 30 last year. What are you thinking about him? We already have a discount because all those years he was coming off the board. It's wide receiver two wide receiver three. Maybe the number one wide receiver in the game. Now he's coming off the board right now. Looks like it's about wide receiver seven. We're back and I'll tell you why we're back. Okay. And this is not reporting. This is just me put in my logic hat. Justin don't aggregate this. Happens a lot more in the NBA in the NFL. If the Vikings do not get Justin Jefferson back on track this year. He's gone. Justin Jefferson will be saying trade me. Yeah. Okay. This is a guy who in his first six seasons has four with 1400 or more receiving yards. It's on the last year he had two receiving touchdowns. Colour Murray will get him on track and Colour Murray is wearing the job by the way. Did you see Liz's face when you said that? I don't agree with you. This is the way it should be. And they have chosen a quarterback to give homework to and this man don't like homework. Of all the quarterbacks to choose, you're going to give him a brand new playbook. He's much on the line. I'm a little nervous. Okay. They have to get it right. They have to. You have to. You have to. But imagine having to get this right and Kyler Murray is the guy that you're like that guy. I mean, JJ McCarthy is the other option. So you know, he was indictment on your first round pick to bring in a guy like Carp. Tell him right away. But I am in on Justin Jefferson. He is going to have a bounce back here. I'm telling you right now bounce back. Yes. From wide receiver. Yes. To like, he to me. He's the rare five for you. He's the rare. I think he's wide receiver five right now. Why is he four for me right now? I got to check that. But good question. Okay. He is the very rare player going in the first like 10 or 12 picks who also could be a steel. Right. But you know, in the caps. Yeah. Like he's a steel like, I guess I'm on a horse for. So he's five. We can't say that about most guys in the, you know, go in 10th or 11th or 12th overall. Nope. But he could be the best player fantasy football this year. He could be the best wide receiver in fantasy this year. Three seasons 100 plus catches. Four with four 200 plus receiving yards. Justin Jefferson winning the triple crown is possible. He's Justin Jefferson, capital J capital J on both of those names. Do not let him down again. This your Minnesota. Because I just, I'm not Justin has never expressed anything other than great affinity for where he plays. Quick, great. There's no way he would be happy if they even their crap season is. No, no, I would be. And if I was just Justin Jefferson, I would want out to maximize my skill set while I have it. Before I get before I don't because this is a game where it, it, it disappears quickly. Crazy stat on a per game basis. Kylo Murry has been a top 12 quarterback. Every single season of his career except for last year, QB 11, QB four, QB four, QB seven, QB nine, QB 12, and then QB 19 last year. Okay. But 30% of those fantasy points came from rushing. Yes. We're talking about getting the ball to Justin. Sorry. I was just pivoting ahead to. Okay. Now when you look at this, we've done a lot of mock draft stuff. There's not a lot of quarterbacks that are being drafted outside the top 15 that have the chance to potentially be a top five guy. We've seen Kylo Murry be a top five guy twice. Yeah. Have either of you drafted him at all in our mock draft project throughout this offseason Kylo Murry. We did these like in succession last year. This year we're spreading them out. So my answer is probably yes, but not as a target. Not, yeah, not someone that you are specifically targeting in the later rounds. Okay. Just wanted to put that out there. All right. Let's move ahead. Talk about the Denver Broncos as well as long as you guys are good with Minnesota Vikings. Yep. All right. Good. Jalen Waddle. We are always good with moving on from the Minnesota Vikings. Yes. I'm with you, girl. All right. Jalen Waddle traded over to the Denver Broncos guys new weapon for Bonyx. Waddle has been trying to recapture the first two seasons of his career for a minute. His first two years in the NFL were unbelievable. A top 15 wide receiver, both of those years. And then he was wide receiver 34, wide receiver 46, wide receiver 24 in Miami. Things just fell apart. Liz now he gets to move on. He becomes what I believe is the wide receiver one in this Denver off. And I don't think it's quote and something. I think it's Jalen Waddle. I feel it. So I want to know how are you approaching Waddle and drafts this year? Are you more in on him being that guy that he was earlier in his career? Or do you still have a little bit of nervousness as you go into draft season? My only nervousness is Sean Payton, who is sneaky like a fox, right? Like we can never really rely on him to rely on one person though. The fact that the team gave up a first, a third and a fourth to obtain him does suggest a heavy investment. And I do think that Sean Payton can finally get his Joker now. If you will, can move all over the formation. We thought maybe Ingram would be that guy last year. Definitely wasn't. And for the first time in a long time, Waddle now has a complimentary skill set on the other side. It's not duplicative, right? It's not him and Ty Riku are similar. And I do think that will help him. I have him as a why as my wide receiver 19 right now. But I do think he has wide receiver one, meaning inside the top 12 upside. Well, I've got an exactly as wide receiver 19 is well, I have I don't have as much optimism. I guess that wasn't like crazy optimism. I'd be surprised by top 12 only because it's a fairly crowded room, right? Like Portland Sutton got a, I think it was four years. Got a bunch of money. And dollar deal last year. The sea has like they spent a third round pick on Pat Brian. This is what Sean Payton does. He just keeps throwing funneling assets into players. And so and I do think they want to run the football. They've got a great offensive line. There's a feels like a little bit of like an egalitarian approach amongst the past catchers. I think he deserves to be right there in that top 20 of wide receivers. He's super talented. I love the fact that as a rookie, Jalen Waddle was basically Jarvis Landry for Miami. Everything was at or near the line of scurvy because they couldn't throw the football down the field. And then he emerged one of the best deep threats in the leagues and you can do it all. I just, so I just am not quite as bullish on like top 10 or 12 upside, but top 20 is reasonable to me. I think the upside could be that high, but I have him. I think realistically drafted where you got ranked where you guys do. I have as wide receiver 20. The thing that makes me frustrated when I look at this kid that those rookies that rookie season was unbelievable. Even a second year was great. He's only top 75 catches one time in his career. 75 is not a big number for a guy that's supposed to be a superstar wide receiver. He has never had a career target share. Never had a target share over 23 and a half percent. He has never topped. Not even 24, not 25. That's not an elite number for your biggest season ever for your target share to be 23.2%. That is not elite period. So I wonder here in this offense with what they spent on him, but given all the pieces that they have that you just mentioned, that's why I have him more as wide receiver 20, then moving up into that high end wide receiver two range. - I said why you were two, is there? - Yeah, I think his talent and skill can be higher, but not with all the pieces that are going on. - Then you're happy where he's being drafted. - Absolutely, okay. - What about Travis CtN? Hold on, hold on a hunt. Time out. But I say your story of the off season, and you push it right away. Travis HN! How did you miss this thing? - Oh, I know. - Guys, a very notable NFL player story. After five seasons in the league, was like, you guys have been saying this wrong. - I've been saying my name wrong. - Yeah. - His name is Travis HN, and we've been calling him Travis CtN for like a decade because in college, he called him Travis CtN as well. - Can you imagine if we were just calling you Daniel for the past decade? - No. - That's the French for it. When you go to Perry, I'm sure that Daniel. - You're gonna buy Daniel to Daniel Hunter, 'cause his name was spelled kind of Daniel, right? So it's like, that definitely happened. - Have you seen Daniel Hunter, though? - Not when people would, I would not come at him. - I would just feel like. - Mr. Hunter. - Mr. Sir. Mr. Hunter. - Mr. Sir, yes. - Whatever you want to be called, works by me. - The guy, so apologies, I guess, to Travis HN for waiting this long to, or to not knowing for all these years. This is how you pronounce it, but we won't mess it up going forward. - You did that on purpose, Daniel, so that field could do that. - That's exactly the right. - Personally apologize as a team to Travis. - And to his brother Trevor as well, Trevor HN, the running back for the Panthers. But yes, he ends up in the Saints. - Yeah. - Thoughts on how this impacts the backfield here, Liz? - Dude has been awesome. I mean, so for the good last year. - So he was revitalized by Liam Cohen and Liam Cohen is in New Orleans, so that's a little problematic. - There. - Also, Alvin Camara did, is coming back for his 31 year, 31st year. How do you say that? 31st years, if it's 8-8-31 season. - 31 season. - 8-31 season. - Yeah, there you go. - 8-31 season. I do think that might take a little bit of a chunk out of A-chans receiving work, but otherwise I think he's a solid RB2. I'm not wildly excited, but he is expected to command the lead here and I do like a Callan Morelet offense that is fairly uptown. - I like the Saints this year. I like this offense. I like Tyler Schock. - Tyler Schock a lot. - I'm in on him. - He just got paid. - Yep, and Dan Jordan Tyson, I think they're in a good spot where they could be an offense that surprises us this year. I think a couple of years ago, they started out super hot in a surprising way and then came back to the earth, the way that we all thought that they would. I could see them being a legitimate offense that's going to contend in the NFC South this year. - They're right there in that division. The wind was kind of taken out of the sales when that Alvin Camara deal got done. Now he's a franchise legend. - A franchise with respect to, yes. - Yes, obviously they want to keep them there. - I don't know that he's a particularly effective player, but what's the point of keeping Alvin Camara for six and a half million dollars if you're not going to use him at all? Like I get loyalty that part I respect, but like I don't think they're so loyal that they're like, here's six and a half million dollars being being active. Like it would be more like a million dollars to be gained. It would be the Devon Singletary Restructure where it's like, you're making the minimum with a chance to incentives to get some money back. - How do you feel about the other side of this? Are you in on Basel Tutton being a guy that you need to target in drafts as an RB2? - I'm going to put this out there right now. The Jaguar's offense is probably the most confusing one to give rank to you. - Thank you, feel, thank you. It's tough all the way around. I thought maybe the most surprising contract of free agency amongst Rworene Bax was Chris Rodriguez. Like if I told you Chris Rodriguez just sound like a one year deal during the middle of OTAs for like sort of the minimum, I would be, I'd be like, oh yeah, that's Rex. He got like two years and 13 million bucks. It was like an incredibly specifically targeted move by the Jaguars. - That's more money than Keaton Mitchell got. - Yeah, history. - Keaton Mitchell's healthy. - Keaton, that's true. - And Chris Rodriguez has a history with Liam Cohen. They were together at Kentucky, back when Liam Cohen was the OC there. So this was a Liam Cohen move for sure. I don't think this is like fully handed in the reins to Basel Tutton, but Tut's way more explosive. He's going to have a lot of big play upside. He's going to catch the ball more effectively than Rodriguez. So I have him as RB 22. I'm more optimistic on him than any other Jags back. - I have him on the RB 2, RB 3 bubble there. I think that means-- - Me and Rodriguez. - Tutton, not Rodriguez. - Right here, by the way, still dealing with this foot injury. So Tutton has been absorbing all of the first team reps and that's giving him more familiarity. I think what's head scratching is the Tutton played against type last season. Right, he profiles is more of a space guy, but was the short yarded option as playing behind a Chan last season. So I think he's going to have to grow and stretch a little bit here, but I do like Tutton, especially where he's being drafted because there are some question marks and concerns as an RB 2. - Not a high price tag right now on fan draft. So it's not a bad spot. - The next month, they'll be really helpful, called 25 days, because we want people to draft before. - Yeah, we got some time actually. The next month, they'll be really influential in like finalizing my thoughts. Like all the receivers in Jacksonville kind of confusing, the backfield, not as confusing, but you could kind of talk yourself into a few different outcomes there. But this is a good problem. Like this team is very talented and Trevor Lawrence incredible value right now. - And all what's your Trevor Lawrence? - Speaking of, help me figure out what it is that I need to know as again, from a draft perspective. Carnell Tate, last year the Titans went out, grabbed their quarterback, Cam Ward. This year they gave him a premier pass catcher. Is this one of those situations fields where like we can trust this rookie right away in this offense and fantasy or? - I'm optimistic. I've got him as wide receiver 22, which is the highest month, our ESPN rankers right now. Consentist rank is wide receiver 28. So people that have him the 30 ish range. I'm up to 22. Like the player a lot. I thought he perhaps got mislabeled during the pre-Jav process. He went forth overall and there are people, and I think I said this at times too. They're like, I don't know that he's ever going to be like a dominant number one wide receiver in the NFL. But if you were, I probably would have him at like wide receiver 15 or 16 as opposed to wide receiver 22. Total pro like a professional wide receiver before he even entered the NFL. What in surprise me? And this is not just the Ohio State thing. If he has like a little bit of the amecca, a Buka trajectory here, which is like a Buka, I had him as maybe like the 30th player in my 32, my final big board, he ends up going 19 or 20 or something like that in the draft. And he ended up having this really, really solid run last year for Tampa. And the system, the situation, the performance like all kind of mesh at the right time. I'm optimistic on cam word. I'm optimistic on car and L Tate. I think this guy is going to be legit enough. I was going to say the truth, but the truth would be higher than wide receiver 22. Wide receiver 22 legit. I am happy about the landing spot here for car and L Tate. They got a block in Tennessee, but otherwise, I think this seems to be okay offensive. I think what you're also saying is that his transition to the pros should be very smooth given his polished skill set. And no red illness. Also, I also like him Chicago kid. So a little bit biased. And second easiest strength of schedule for the position. And a seat. So that's a nice extra little something to know. Yeah, I would expect to the Titans to be throwing the ball a lot as they try to figure out their offense and find some wins. They're going to be good on defense, though, man. That front four is ridiculous. The front seven is good. I like Tennessee. They, they get me real question marks about the offensive line. I think this team's going to make a leap forward and cam word who we'll talk about quarterback ranking soon. So I'm not like, oh my God, cam words, a top 12 option. But 10 touchdowns one pick following the by last year. So he amidst really poor circumstances became a decidedly improved player on the fly. Speaking of go ahead, I was just going to say also should be buoyed by the addition of one Del Robinson who's knighting with Brian, Dable and a fantastic PPR value. He's so holding it. He's not going to see 140 targets like he did last year, but he will hold it down in the sky. He will. Yeah. Speaking of bad situations, the entire Las Vegas Raiders team last year was bad. Really bad. We ended here with the Raiders and their offensive hall. This obviously, I think so. Let's finish it out with that because I'm hoping that we can get something different here because we got Aston Gentie. Aston Gentie let people down, but wasn't as disappointing as it may have felt. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. That's the thing that you have to realize. Still a very good running back. We love Brock Bowers. And now you're going to get Fernando Mendoza. Who's going to start here a quarterback? I think Kirk cousins will start week one, but Drake may sat on the bench to begin a season. Then it was like, oh, yeah, this is definitely not the right play. We'll switch him out after four or five games. So I think we'll be on that plan for Fernando Mendoza. The quarterback play, I think, will be steadier this year overall. They are healthier amongst the pass catchers, specifically Brock Bowers. It's a way better system. I think it's an improved offensive line with Tyler Lindermom. They paid a bolt, though. Yes, my reason why I still have Gentie is RB 12 and not as like RB 6, which he's going to be ranked really high for some people. It's an improved offensive line. It's a much better system. I don't know that it's like a quantum leap better situation yet, though. The offensive line is still a major work in progress. Wow. Okay. Still a major work in progress. And so as we know last year, it was basically aschen Gentie creating all the yards for himself. Nearly two thirds of his yards rushing came after contact. The guy was, he did all the work. It was amazing. Houston Texans game late in the season was one for the ages from Ashen Gentie. But I really like the player obviously, still optimistic, but not as in some of my colleagues. I have them inside my top 10. I mean, despite averaging what 3.7 yards per carry, that's right. He was the RB 5 and the in evaded tackles per touch, which alludes to field's point about just him creating after contact when he was able to, you know, get past the first level. So I really do. I have him actually as my RB 7. I'm a little more optimistic. I'm optimistic because of the talent. Yeah. And, you know, maybe it's a bit of a talent crush, but I also was really high in him last year. So talent and Kubi out coming over, I think that that's an part going to help unlock what it is that he can be hopefully add more as a past catcher. Can you closer to Liz or me or in the middle? I am exactly where Liz is. I have my 7. Yeah, remember if everybody thinks of like no one is thinking that's right. I was just looking at your running back rankings to see you had in front of him. I like I can't I can't argue with any of these. Also, we're it's too early to argue. No, it's never too early. I mean, you're right. I can okay. It's too argue with the baby at 130. Back to sleep this morning. Go back to bed. That's fair. That's fair. Do you get a lot of fantasy thoughts in while you're doing that? Are you just sort of like in a fever dream at in the middle of the night? Like do you see she bought a 30 minute process to feed a child, right? He's like in the first day. It's like you just like all kinds of stuff goes through your head. That's when AI field really comes like. Diggers, action, genty, evaded tackles per touch. Yeah, where's the jet out rocking chairs had not a lot of use for that. Until I became a dad. Wow. Shout out rocking. Now they're awesome. That's not a thing that young cool people say usually. Well, Daniel, I'm no longer young. I was never cool. So that's what I talk about these. Yeah, right. 10 to age of 39. Hey, this has been fun. What a great first day back guys. Thanks for hanging out with the list. Thank you for being here. When Mike decided not to show up, we can always count on you. We appreciate it. Field. Always great to be able to see you. And we are pumped to be back tomorrow. Follow him on social media at Eric and Moody hanging out in the chat as he always does. We're going to be back tomorrow. 12 team PPR mock draft. They're one of our favorite shows to do. Make sure you come and hang out with us. That's going to do it for us today. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself. You guys, you deserve it. 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