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A Giants Revival, Browns Believers, a Jets Crash, J-Dub’s Brutal Injury, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

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A Giants Revival, Browns Believers, a Jets Crash, J-Dub’s Brutal Injury, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

The episode begins with a promotional segment for the newly released film *Wild Horse 9*, a sharp-witted thriller set in the 1970s and starring John Malkovich and Sam Rockwell as CIA agents caught in a web of secrets. The film is highlighted as a critical success, praised for its suspense and entertainment value, with a theatrical release scheduled for November 6th. The main content shifts to a detailed football analysis, covering recent games and team performances. The Giants are noted for a dominant win over a heavy favorite, showcasing strong defense and time-of-possession advantages. The Texans suffer a heartbreaking overtime loss due to officiating errors, including a dropped interception and a poor run play. The analysis also touches on the Chiefs’ inconsistent season, the struggles of quarterbacks like Sam Darnold and Dan Campbell, and the impact of injuries. A recurring theme is the unpredictability of the NFL, with teams like the Panthers and Packers facing officiating chaos. The podcast humorously introduces a new term—“the DeRozan”—for an awkward two-point conversion return in basketball, inspired by DeMar DeRozan’s long-range shooting. Overall, the discussion blends sports critique with lighthearted commentary, emphasizing the season’s volatility and the importance of player resilience amid constant challenges.

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This episode is brought to you by Searchlight Pictures, Wild Horse 9, John Malkovich, and Sam Rockwell. I like those guys. Starring the sharp-witted comedy thriller from Academy Award winner, Martin McDonough, writer-director of The Banshees, Amina Sharon, and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Set in the 1970s, filmed on location on Easter Island, Malkovich and Rockwell play CIA agents Chris and Lee, who are caught in a dangerous game of secrets and survival. Also starring Steve Buscemi, another one of my guys, Parker Posey, and Tom Waits. Wild Horse 9 is being hailed by critics as a revitalizing shot of pure entertainment and easily one of the best films of the year. Don't miss Wild Horse 9. Only in theaters November 6th. Get tickets now. This is the Bill Simmons Podcast presented by FanDuel. Make every NFL week more rewarding with FanDuel. Rewards Club. You heard me. Just bet like you normally would. Earn points in eligible settled bets, win or lose. Keep collecting points, level up, and unlock bigger rewards. So keep an eye on your Rewards Club progress and see what you can unlock. This is your most rewarding season ever, and it's with FanDuel. 21 plus select states are 18 plus DC or Wyoming. Game problem, call 1-800-GAMBLE or call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. The Bill Simmons Podcast live on Netflix. Cousin Sal is here after the rare, fast Sunday night football game. We're going to talk about a bunch of football. There's some basketball. Sorry, I got to break out my NBA hole cape, Sal. We're going to talk a little basketball later. There was a really big, sad injury tonight that happened in the OKC game. And then I wanted to mention a live rewatchable. It's tomorrow, 5 p.m. Eastern, 2 o'clock Pacific. We are doing A Nightmare on Elm Street. Me, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan Live A classic Van's favorite horror movie franchise Not my top two But my third What's your favorite horror movie franchise? Halloween, I think, right? Yeah, my favorite's Halloween And then probably Friday the 13th after that Yeah, that's good But it's been fun to redo this movie Dive into it, the whole thing Anyway Speaking of horror movies I was just going to say The Texans on a teaser Does that count as a horror movie? today genre. So, all right. I didn't do well today from a, a betting or picking or handicapping or anything standpoint. And my question is, is it just one of these seasons now? Because we had a normal result tonight. Chief Seahawks, the Seahawks were supposed to win. They needed it. Perfect spot for them. Chiefs were five and oh, didn't totally need it. Offensive line injuries. It's in Seattle. The defense should show up there. Just all these signs, the lines, two and a half, three, two and a half, finally settles at three. And it's just like, God damn, year after year, this is just the Seahawks winning on a Sunday night. And yet my confidence was shaken going into it. Even though I had the Seahawks, I was like, I don't know anymore. I don't know what to think. Wait, do you feel the same way or no? Of course. Well, let me just start by saying I went five and O with my ringer 107 picks. But- You did. I have, listen, every day I'm hustling. That's just how it is. Sorry, I'm a little loopy here. It's the kidney stones. Yes, and the prescription drugs. And yet, my ledger would tell you very much otherwise. That was fun today. It's all these dumb teams. But yeah, tonight was the, it seemed like back when we were in college, we're like, all right, this is going to be, they're going to, Mike McDonald's going to step up. He's going to have no big plays out of the Chiefs. I didn't know they wouldn't run one play in the red zone. But Chiefs don't need it. Seahawks need it. They put the smackdown on them. Good for them. Darnold throws the interception near the end of the first half seems like they're about to go up 17-0 or whatever and it's like oh we're doing this again we can't just have an easy one I can't have an easy three hours but then it didn't matter Kansas City couldn't do it Darnold is like I feel like he just has to get it out of the system right I think he led the league last year in interceptions and I was thinking it's like when you invite your mother to dinner and she always has something derogatory to say about your house or how you're spending money or something. Then you shoot her a look and it's over, right? So she got it out of it. That's the Sam Darnold right there with the intercept. He's the Italian mob? Just has to say the one thing? Right, right, right. Huh, so that's how you're going to handle this Archie thing, huh? And you're like, why? Why are you bringing that up? Not now. Stay out of this. Stop meddling. Exactly. You made Melissa mad. That's it. You've been listening. Yeah, he can't help it. He's got to have one. I had a whole, because I was at halftime. I didn't know if they're going to blow this game. And I was looking back at Mark Rippon because that's the perfect analogy for what, where this could go wrong for Donald this year. Rippon had that incredible season. Oh, that's good. 17 wins. He was 17 and two on the 92 Redskins or 91 Redskins, 32 touchdowns, lights out, deep balls, connecting them all year. Yep. And then the next year, 14 TDs, 20 interceptions, including the playoffs. They go like nine and seven. They lose in round one or round two. That's a great comp. I didn't even think of that. It's just like a one-year wonder, and you kind of knew it as it was happening. Now, in Darnold's case, he was also good in Minnesota, but then it collapsed the last couple weeks. But I don't know how much to blame him or how to blame the fact that they really only have one guy to throw to. It's like they're just these elaborate ways of just getting JSN open. He's in motion, cutting back in. He's trying to shed double teams, and he has nowhere else to go, right? I felt the same way. And like when he didn't score, the one time he scored, it was close, right? He put the ball over the pylon and they gave it to him. The second time he was out at the two, and that's when Donald threw it. I'm like, he's got to score. He's got to start scoring. Otherwise, but it's a little better because that Wilson went for 100 yards today, right? They ran the ball well, which was the big difference. Well, Collinsworth was all over the Chiefs in the fourth quarter, like feeling like their spirit was broken a little. Yeah. I don't think big picture of this game really mattered one way or the other. You know, they have a weird situation with that Josh Simmons, who's supposed to be their left tackle this year. Right. And just has not played and there's been all kinds of scuttlebutt and what's going on here. And then this week, they very suspiciously leaked out a story that made him look bad about him putting his feet up on the table and Mahomes and Reed were mad about it. They kicked him out of the meeting. And so it does seem like that situation's going well, But their right tackle was hurt today, too. So if they don't have the tackles on top of, you know, they've had some wide receiver injuries, I don't know. Maybe they don't win the AFC West. I still think they make the playoffs, right? Yeah, I think so. What, the previously undefeated Chiefs, we don't think, might not make the playoffs? No, of course. That's my point. I'm not worried about them. Yeah, I'm not either. I just think, you know. But what's crazy is Denver's right behind them now. Oh, yeah. Denver's a game back. Denver has, they're basically have scored as many points as they've given up. I don't feel good when I watch them. Like they beat the Cardinals today. I didn't feel great about it. It was only one of the three games we had in the late afternoon window, but I didn't watch it going, Oh, they've solved it here. They come like, you know, they got this lucky boat, Nick 77 yard scramble and no, the Cardinals were moving the ball. Um, yeah. So I don't know. I, I guess the chiefs will hold on. Nobody else. Yeah. I mean, listen, just get that, you know, that Pansy Butker back in the kitchen where he belongs and they should, you know, they can move on from there. But yeah, no, I feel like we're comparing those two teams. I think we've seen a lot more better games out of the chiefs than Denver, but who the hell knows? Well, you look at the AFC and you have two playoff teams. I think Buffalo and new England. We'll come back to the NFC North in a second. AFC South, it looks like it's going to be Jacksonville only. Yeah. And then in the West Casey and, and I guess Denver, because they have five wins. They only need to give five more. So then it gives you two spots up for grabs here with Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Baltimore who have a combined 18 wins. Right. So if you had to keep two and get rid of two, which two would you keep? I can't believe I'm saying it, but I was looking at Cleveland's numbers and their schedule and everything else. Schedule's amazing. And they're a plus, what the hell are they? They're plus 180 to make the playoffs and they have the Saints and they have the Steelers next week who they already beat. They have the Raiders in there. I'll give it to you. Let's do Mike and the Mad Dog. Do it, do it. Well, at Pittsburgh next week will be hard. That is a loss only because they won already. They beat them. I don't see them beating them twice. At New Orleans, who I think is pretty bad. They're going to come up later when we do cross-offs. They probably split those, right? So that makes them 5-3. Home, Houston. I mean, why couldn't they win? Why not score 20 points? You're good. Home Vegas, home Cincinnati, and they have a bi-week in there. So they're basically home for a month. Yeah. That feels like three or four, four losses, maybe at that point. Right. Home Atlanta at giants at Baltimore home. Indianapolis. Yeah. Giants and Minneapolis. They might get to 10 wins. Cincinnati might not need that at that point, too, at the end. That would be my lean right there. Plus 188 I have for that. So Cleveland has a couple of weird things going. I didn't expect to talk about them this early. But one of them is Deshaun. I wrote down because he had another game-winning drive. Yeah. And if you have it on the multi-view for the three hours, he's just terrible at quarterbacking. He's just not good. But he's somehow through for 308 today. You never feel good about it. But then when he has the ball with a chance to decide the game, I now have confidence in him. So I was thinking, is he like a restaurant where the appetizers are terrible and the entrees are terrible, but you're really going for the dessert? Yeah. It's like, oh, no, no, no. Just forget. The dessert's amazing. He's got this carrot cake. He's got cannolis. He's basically dessert Deshaun. I like it. Yeah. Order the chocolate souffle. Make sure you order it 45 minutes before the entree. Yeah, yeah. Because you're going to be sorry. Yeah. I was watching. I actually had the audio on it towards the end. And the CBS play-by-play guy, I think it's Andrew Catalan, said, yet again, Deshaun Watson sparkles in the fourth quarter. And he wasn't being sarcastic. No. He was being dead serious. And I'm like, who is Deshaun? Who is Andrew Catalan? Who is Deshaun? Who is anybody? What's going on here? There was another part of that. They came out of commercial and they showed the Deshaun Watson fourth quarter comeback montage. Yeah, right. And it was like a minute long. And they're like, week three, week four, week six. They just kept going through them. It's like, we're in the twilight zone? What's happening here? It's ridiculous. Listener Brian S. pointed out Browns Bengals, which that's going to be week three. 13. Possible flex. They might be flexing a Browns Bengals game into Sunday night. Oh, yeah. Think about that. So that goes back to my original point, which is like this season. I don't know who the best team is. We can talk about the Super Bowl odds on FanDuel. I have no idea who I would bet. You don't either. No. I like who's your favorite team right now? If you like gun to the head, if you had to pick a team to win the Super Bowl, what would you pick? I just, I guess the bills. I don't know. I guess the bills. I would, I would stick with the bills. Rams. I know. What are you going to do? There's like flaws with all the, all these teams. I have to say the chiefs. Who else in the AFC? The Ravens are underneath them. Lamar might not ever come back. We may not find out because apparently doesn't have an agent. So you don't know until Saturday if he's playing or not ever really weird. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I might say the bears. Yeah. I was really impressed by them last week. I thought the pats played pretty well, you know, and the bears kind of just beat them, but there was a lot of stuff in the pregame shows and the Sunday info guys this week about the bears are going to be really aggressive here at the trade deadline. Yeah. And if they add a couple of things on top of what they have, I actually think they could be really good. He's excellent. He's excellent. By the way, I think Pellicero could do the right thing and step aside and let me come on the BS pod after Patriots loss. It's just, I know I should have bumped them. I'm sorry. I'll tell him next time, but he is. Caleb is excellent. I think when he avoids that first rush, that first level of rush and steps up and guns it like I'm as confident in him as anyone else. And, uh, they're really against that dude is really, uh, it's, it really sticks it to you the way that, uh, my homes used to do earlier in his career. Are you worried about my homes? Do you feel like he's the same when you watch him? Uh, they seem like the same guy to you. No, I feel like he is. Same. I feel like the rolling right, throwing left over the middle, all that stuff, scrambling for first downs. It just wasn't, it just wasn't in the cards tonight. Just wasn't going to happen. They had the third best odds on Fandle right now. The odds are Buffalo six to one Niners plus six 50. It looked like they were going to lose McCaffrey for 10 minutes today in that game. Then he emerged out of the blue tent. Casey 10 to one Rams, 11 to one Seattle, 11 to one Baltimore, 11 to one Jacksonville and 12 to one bears. 15 to one are probably the realistic ones, man. I, I, Seattle would be the other one that I would think about because I think they could add a receiver before the trade deadline and they're going to get their running backs back and your price back and Charbonnet back. And they're four and three and really could be six and one, five and two. They could be seven and out with, you know, with a couple of plays. So I think, I think that, and I think your, your instincts are right about Buffalo. It feels like the Niners about too many injuries. Uh, and the chiefs just had a pretty easy schedule here until this game today. Yeah. So I need to see a little more from them to you. Um, name you didn't read a little bit further down the bangles at 19 to one who, I mean, what happened to them in that first half? Well, I think what happened, it was sort of like a tale of two games. One before I tweeted terrible things about Joe Burrow and then one right, right after I pressed send, like that's kind of how it, it were, I think we were texting about them too. And it's like, what, but they didn't have the ball. They just didn't have the ball. It all. And Snoop Huntley was great. He had like three third and long conversions in the first quarter and a half. You know what I mean? So yeah. Um, then once I got the ball, they, they seemed like they weren't too, uh, panicked. And that was that. Yeah. I wrote in my notes, Burrow rope, a dope, everyone on Twitter. Yeah. Halftime came and it was like Joe Burrow. What's good. And it just was a Joe Burrow roast for 15 minutes. Right. And then in the second half, he was 16 for 18 for 249 yards of four touchdowns. They had five touchdown drives. Um, there was a weird Baltimore was down 14, 13, fourth quarter, fourth and two on the 12th. And they didn't kick the field goal. Yeah. Got an incompletion. And I actually would have kicked the field goal. Cause I just thought they needed points and they needed to, um, now you say like, well, Cincinnati scored five times. What would the field goal? I mean, but it just felt like a momentum thing. They needed to grab something back moment. They didn't get that. It felt like the game was over Baltimore, 17 double digit blown leads in the 2020s. So show Kapadi had this this year. They're plus 65 in the first half, which is first and minus 70 in the second half, which is 32nd, which leads to a listener named Mark Kapon. I think that's how you say it said. They've led in six of the seven halftimes, including all three losses asking you, you had the Stewart special. It doesn't really exist. Oh, the other way. There were reverse. Yeah. Ravens win the first half, lose the game. And then what do we call it? I like that. Yeah. He, I suggest the Ravens regression, but that's not fun enough. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you don't have to come up with it now. Maybe, maybe on everything I'm thinking of is unspeakable now. I can't say, yeah, but no, I think you're right. There is a half time. Fuck job. Yeah. Work on that. I mean, there's another one. They're the third team in the NFL and NFL history to lose a game by 20 plus after leading by 13 plus at halftime. Did you say that or something? It happened in 1950 and 1941 for the last two times. The only two times. I'm not that concerned about Baltimore. I mean, the bigger question to me is how many times can Lamar just disappear for like a month? Yeah. Well, isn't that a concern? Like that's crazy. Yeah. But he is coming back. They're four and three. They've got a lot of time off. They have Cleveland in front of them who I don't think anybody, even though, you know, we didn't talk about Cleveland a ton, but the, I think their, uh, defensive line is really good. They have some good skill guys. They were able to run the ball today. Judkins finally got going for them. You know, they have, they have kind of good players on both sides of the ball. And he's like somebody like Denzel word. You're like, Oh, that guy's good. Swash. Yeah. Swash. He's good. Um, it's tough with the Titans. Cause that team should never win two games in a row. So, you know, you take it with a grain of salt, but they did stop them at first and goal from the two, you know, those were, you know, that, that this defense is remarkably, um, uh, capable without, you know, without Garrett, whatever's going on here. So I think they, they're doing a good job, but yeah, the Ravens, they're just not going to win these games. If Henry's put up 45 yards, he's Lamar less games. They're just never going to win them. Have the Brown scored more points than they've given up this year. Um, yes, but not by much. No, they have not. They have not really. Oh, is that important? Usually a bad sign. Okay. Yeah. Not a great sign, but I do think they have a cold weather team. So when it gets cold, that's pretty good for them. Maybe they have a trade in them. I don't know if they'd get frisky, but they have a bunch of pigs. So you have them, you have Pittsburgh who's five and two. Yeah. Who won this stupid Paris game today that I didn't, did you wake up for this? I, I flew back from Boston last night and set the alarm for seven 30. I missed the first hour. And it was one of those. I don't feel like I'm going to miss much here between new Orleans and the Steelers. I could probably catch up fast. You made the right move, but it's part of my parent corner. But yeah, that was a, a, a French, that was a French bore fest. Like, like Andre, the giant sitting on his opponent for 12 minutes while we took a nap after being drunk. Like that just, I don't know. It was a, it was a rough watch. I think the London games were really good. And now we've shifted the terrible games to, I guess, to the French French. Yeah. And then we had the same announcing crew we've had for a couple of these other overseas games. And I, I can't get there with Jason. Kelsey. I think he's good at other things, but I don't think as a game analyst, I'm not seeing. it I think this is my take maybe my coffee hadn't kicked in and I was less forgiving but I did not I did not think that three-man booth is very well there's only like three of them that have renewed their passports and so they keep sending the same people okay it just seems like such a weird clerical thing but yeah with our like I don't know our shuck buddy can only do so much if they're running the ball like 18 yards like I think they have 1.1 rush per attempt but he he can't hand off because his left his fingers on his left hand busted or something so it was a rough one but their defense is very good the Steelers like they had like big boy plays past deflections Patrick Queen that Peyton Wilson had a great interception so it's a very good defense if they're playing a crappy offense that's true the Saints were 17 rushes for 18 yards this Jalen Warren thing he's he's becoming a fantasy not an MVP but definitely first team all NBA 583 yards his last six weeks first team NBA really well I'm saying if we had a first team all NBA okay he just seems like he has such a burst in him that he maybe didn't have last year or maybe I wasn't paying attention but they're probably gonna be six and two heading into the bye unless they get swept by the Browns next week you know who I think should have done the Paris game from an announcing standpoint who Buck and Aikman I can't get enough of this this Buck and Aikman is the most riveting thing I've ever seen they did I watched the Monday night when uh when they go to them before the game and you're just trying to interpret every every little uh thing going on it's really really something yeah haven't had that a lot that Boomer Esiason and Al Michaels hated each other but I don't think we found out about that till after no this is a weird thing they're not gonna make out anytime soon either I don't think doesn't sound like it sounds like Troy's on his way out so we have so those are the two five and two teams and then we have um Cincinnati and we have Baltimore so I it's weird I would still I would still bet on Cincinnati and Baltimore out of those four I'd bet on the pedigree but Pittsburgh keeps putting filing away these wins and Rogers I gotta say looks looks okay sure like certainly better than I thought you know he scrambles around he still has a good arm he can whip it down when he has time to set his feet and actually uncork it he can throw it 50 yards so no doubt and look McCarthy's a good coach like they could you know they're if they're not going to be able to do it they're going to be able to do it they're going to do it they're six and two after next week they'll probably figure out a way to get four the problem is you look at these schedules and it's like oh it's going to get tough for them like no because the Texans aren't a tough team the Ravens are beatable I'm looking at their schedule right so like when they're plus 120 to make the playoffs like they can win four games the rest of the way I can't wait to talk about the Texans later we have some hilarious records this year the Vikings are six and oh yeah even their own fans aren't buying this uh six and oh Viking thing right Browns and Steelers both five and two three and three Carolina has two losses of 20 plus points and they're also leading the NFC South even though they got torched today yeah Houston Philly Dallas and Tampa are all two plus games under 500. the Rams are still under 500 and the Chargers are oh and six they are our last winless team wow that's just some of the stuff that's happened in this year and we're only seven weeks in so listen sometimes we have weird years and I just feel like we're in the middle of a weird year I'm trying to look at the positive you and I always go through this and usually it doesn't hit till 3rd December but there are like five or six playoff teams that I'm foaming at the mouth to bet against and they'll probably all play against each other and they'll they'll get screwed up then we'll get stuck but uh the Vikings are high on that list for me well I had them in a tease today yeah which their side won had to root for Kyler Murray for three hours you just never feel confident when he takes off it's like no Kyler no uh when he throws deep I don't think it's going to be an easy receiver you know every once in a while he'll scamper around and you feel pretty good but for the most part it's it's a pretty harrowing experience and it's not like they don't have good receivers like Jefferson Hawkinson but uh it's it's he was sweating it out meanwhile the Colts had Daniel Jones who finished 13 for 22 for 120 had the game ending pick and then Shane Steichen said afterwards I still believe in Daniel Jones so he's the he's the one person because I don't think anybody else believes he exists I believe into like yeah does he believe in Santa he's still a human being that he's alive but but they uh Minnesota 275 yards three for 11 up first down Murray threw for 150 yards they still won none of it mattered and but if you watch the game it felt like the Colts had figured out the Flores thing in that first hour it's like we're just gonna run the ball run the ball we're gonna control the clock Murray's one mistake will come and we're gonna win this game like 1713 and at all the makings and they just couldn't pull it off did you think Minnesota was gonna win that game I had the Colts was my big upset special and which I I haven't hit all year I mean it's probably well how many 80 upsets this year more yeah and I can't I can't get one and he didn't need to right he what did he need to do to win that game he barely went over 100 yards passing like you said and that was fine I I felt like there were a couple sacks that are veteran like him I I know he's not taking off for 20 anymore but he he could have avoided those sacks and they could have avoided those sacks and they were 100 his fault meanwhile Brian Flores's defense basically asked Kyla murder to throw for 150 yards and run like scamper for 20 uh and they're golden really amazing what's going on there here's what I don't get and I know this is going to be a topic all week so they had JJ McCarthy they drafted him with a top 10 pick they gave up on him basically during the start of this year they telling us he's right just to get a salary out to give him to the Giants and he's immediately resuscitated and if you watch that game today which I watched every play of because I had Houston and everything yeah um JJ McCarthy was legitimately good like the entire game he was really good he was creating extra time for himself the ball was on time he was scrambling at the right times like I thought he had a really really good game against the Houston defense that has been you know incredibly disappointing but it he managed the game but also made plays and I just don't understand that the QB whisperer Kevin O'Connell I don't understand how this didn't work and and how does he still get that title he's the QB whisperer right he gave up this guy who now is immediately good on the Giants yeah it's the title in my opinion that's got the title's gone I think it looks for honestly if you think about it I didn't until you brought it up for an undefeated coach is he getting the most crap and probably deservedly so for not being able to win the game he's getting the most crap and probably deservedly so for not being able to win the game he's getting the most crap and probably deservedly so for not being able to win the game he's getting the most crap and probably deservedly so for not being able to recruit JJ McCarthy make him a top what he is with the Giants apparently A and B Brian Flores gets all the credit for this Vikings right but he's got he got cucked by his own team yeah it's unbelievable the cook chair wonder what happened could it be I'm the head coach I'm six to know it's like no no you fucked up the quarterback thing this is all Flores it's gonna be first coach fired they let him go Monday what do they do I don't know if he makes a trip controversial move by the Vikings Kevin O'Connell seven and oh but if I was the Viking zone I would be losing my mind sure I'd be watching that Giants thing like you fucking kidding me yeah you guys told me to draft this guy we had he got hurt his first year you punted on him after he got hurt again last year you were telling me he was he was a lemon and now I just watched him win in Houston as 10 that put underdogs what are we doing caught him they were gonna cut him in the preseason or early in the year like it was it was it was ridiculous but also McCarthy had all the confidence he has now and but none of the goods so I know I don't understand the KOC part of it but I am jealous of this team I'm gonna say it I mean JJ slinging it with the way he does it does you know he does his thing just throwing over D backs and everything 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The fire sale is officially here with them since they're out of the playoffs. Jonathan Taylor, Quinn Nelson, Buckner. We'll see. We'll see who ends up going for there, but we did cross the Colts off last week. This is becoming my favorite segment. We've been doing it for 12 years. For some reason, I've enjoyed it the most this year. We've made a graphic to see, but Oh my God, that's what that looks like. That's where we made our car, our Carly, whatever her name is. Graphic. We have crossed off Miami, Tennessee, the chargers, Arizona, and the Colts. We've already all crossed off. I think it's the jets. Now you want to do the jets last week. Yeah. And the jets really made a strong case that it should have been last week. But even if it's a week late, it's the jets. Well, I was worried they were going to win this week. That's why I wanted to cross them off last week. Cause I'm like, Oh, it's going to be hard to cross them off after one against Miami. And guess what? Guess what happened? They didn't F and beat Miami 156 rushing yards to the dolphins and no interceptions again. And yeah, man, I agree. Listen, Aaron Glenn, can you smell the fumes from the Sharpie? Because we're about to cross you off. Should we have like a sing song? You think we're about to cross you off? It's like Tom Jackson. He was crossed off. Aaron Glenn is Oh, and eight against the AFC East. He's five and 19. Oh, and overall as a starter, he said after the game, he had a, he, he said he understood why the fans were upset, but he said, man, this program is going in the right direction. They're saying they're showing the stat everywhere now about them in the last two minutes in the Aaron Glenn era, where it's like one Oh seven or six. Yeah. Tomlin talked about in the pregame. Yeah. And he said, if that, if that was my team, we would just be doing two minute drill practices all day, every day, every day until we fix this. I don't know if Aaron has thought of that, but is he even on the field? Maybe he's going to the clubhouse early. Maybe he's taking an early halftime and leaving. He run. He's like my dad or something. Came. He runs off to pee. There's a bathroom break. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, the jets have been crossed off. We, we did do a poll to see if everybody thought that was, what do they say? Right. Call. Well, we'll go how tall. So one second. Okay. Giants. So the giants are now four, two, and one. Yeah. We were worried. We might not have an NFC, East team get to a eight wins, but I, I'm trying not to overreact. I thought the giants looked really good today. It's very, I was genuinely impressed. Like this was not an upset. Like, first of all, them being 10 and a half point underdogs. If you actually watched all three hours, that game was absurd. They were dead. Even in probably even a little more talented. They rushed for, and basically we're able to get a pass rush with the four guys. Carter was incredible. They, they made Stroud who has been awesome this year. Look really bad. The whole game. They shut down Nico Collins completely. Deontay bank shut him down. Carter was all over the place. McCarthy was really good. Like we mentioned, and then neighbors had his four straight hundred yard game and Harbaugh who we made fun of before the season, a bunch of times that I wasn't buying the whole thing, but man, his whole thing where he benched scatter bow and didn't get many carries last week. Then Najee Harris sounded, they waved, Tim this week, they had Tyrone Tracy in there. Scatterbook got the guy all of a sudden he's back and he's running like a maniac. He played this game perfectly. And I got a hand into him. That was like a real, real impressive win by them. I was impressed. They beat, they beat him up. They had almost twice as much yardage. They had, they won time of possession by 10 minutes. They really got beaten up as double digit favorites. And yeah, scatter booze nuts. I think I have a theory on scatter bow though, and why he has these big gainers. I think the defender, the defenders feel bad for him because he's, you know, he's like, he's slow. He's special. Yeah. Yeah. So you see it all the time. Like you give the special needs kid a free layup and stuff like that. I think that's, what's going on with him. I don't feel like, I don't know that he's knows he's playing a team sport to be honest with you. But I, like I said, I'm jealous of all, he does a backflip after scores or pushed his own teammate out of the way. So we could do a front flip, but front flip. Yeah. And then, but, and none of this involves Jackson dart, who was going to, was going to be their savior. Bizarre. They're going to be, they're going to have a real issue of McCarthy looks like he did today for the rest of the season with the Jackson dart piece, because that's exactly for the kind of Harbaugh team. That's that was Michigan McCarthy. That's everything we heard about the guy and he was just doing it. And he had some swagger to him too. The, the OT, I got to mention the, the Texans come back, they scored near the end, tie the game and go to OT. The Texans get the ball first. These were the players. This is how the Texans lost in overtime. Horrible run play. Thibodeau drops. He drops a pick that CJ threw right to him. And there's a Houston hold on the place. They'll go backward. Next place. CJ throws it up for grabs. Punt neighbors, nine yard catch scataboo, long run, Singletary long touchdown run games over. This was one, two, three, four, five, six, a seven play overtime where both teams had the ball. It was an improbable embarrassment. It was an embarrassing rollover by the Texans really bad. Yeah. I'm trying to think if whatever I'll never be able to recall it, but for a double digit favorite, getting the ball in overtime against a tired defense, you probably wouldn't have a more disappointing result in the way that overtime went. Would you have gone for two when you scored? If you were Houston, I, I might, I don't want to play. No, I probably not. I think you would have, I wouldn't have either. I thought they had the momentum and I thought it felt like, Oh my God, the giants, the giants blew this. Why did they let this happen? But Marvin Harrison, one catch, six snaps. That's the other thing. When you talk about like the Texans, they're all who are owned for at home this year, by the way, two and five overall. And they spend a second round pick on Harrison with tank Dell coming back. Right. Even though there had Noel and Collins and all these guys, they can't block. Yeah. Couldn't block the giants the whole, the whole day. They, the running back was basically Woody marks or bust. Right. I just don't under, I didn't really, I totally understand that trade when it happened. But then when you watch the game today, I was like, that's clearly not what they needed was one more receiver. Yeah. I can't block. I would, I would have tried to get like an awesome tight end or even waited two weeks, but just really strange trade. Well, not as bad as a chase Claypool trade, which is still the worst, the worst wide receiver trade of all time, but bad. Yeah. Clayton. Yeah. Well, um, but it begs the question. So they're going to, they're two and five. They have a buy. Have we ever crossed anyone off on their buy? Yeah. What if we're just stuck next week? This team's not going anywhere. We don't have to decide now, but they have a defensive minded coach. Can nine and eight make the playoffs in the AFC or does it have to be 10 wins? I just think with these dumb teams like the Steelers and Browns sticking around, I think you'd have to have a strong nine and eight to beat them. Well, I'm trying to think who they've lost to already. I think it has to be 10 and seven. So 10 and seven means they have to go eight and two down the stretch. But we do this every year. We have this, there's always the second half team that goes seven and two, eight and one. I can't, I don't know. I wouldn't cross them off. I'm just saying not, not yet, but wait until they have their buy. Be even less impressed. Can I, I can tell you something that's going to chill you to the very core. You know, the Knicks win the title in June. I knew that though. Yeah. Most New York fans. I mean, I would say the majority are Knicks, Giants, Yankees. So you have the Knicks now leading into the year. The Giants resurgence and then culminating the Yankees. That's my fear. The Giants having this improbable run now. And that specific fan base. It, this is like a great run for them. Oh, really? My sports cluster theory. I know. I'm just, I'm just worried the Knicks. Now the Knicks are in a tailspin already. They're on three and they're, it's been a bad title defense, but I'm a little. Yeah. I was thinking the other way when Dart went down, it's like, Oh, this is what New York had to sacrifice to get the Knicks a title. But the sacrifice. I thought this was a, just a way to compliment me or, or congratulate me on 40 years of the Mets on the Buckner play today. But apparently that's not where you're going for. Is that today? Yeah. 40 years. Yeah. Buddy Gus sent it this morning. Didn't mean I clicked on it. I saw Buckner bent over. I wasn't, I didn't know what that was. You hadn't seen it before. All right. So we have division leaders in the NFC Giants, Minnesota, Carolina, by default in San Francisco. Then we had the bears are five and two Detroit is four and two green Bay and Seattle are four and three each. And there's basically, those are going to be the eight playoff teams with the NFC South representative in the Carolina spot. But I would say the giants, I think that, I think that would be the team I would bet on the NFC is now. I think I would actually bet on this. What's their wind total. Cause they have that dumb tie in there. Right. So they're plus one 60 right now. Do you like your team or their team? Where Dallas is plus one 50 giants are plus one. So I told you I'm jealous of this team, this team. Yeah. So they're overall, and there are seven and a half. So can they get to eight, eight and one? Oh yeah. Right. The giants. Yeah. At this point, I thought one of the things, one of the reasons I was scared of them as a sleeper this year, because they were the obvious worst, the first pick, but their schedule was really, really hard. But now you look at the schedule, like they haven't played Philly yet, but now Philly doesn't have hurts. So you've two Philly games that hurts right now. They go at Philly home. Washington has the next two. So that could be six, two and one home Jacksonville at Indianapolis, which looked like a scary game, but now isn't home San Francisco at Seattle home Cleveland, which is a harder game than we thought at Dallas, at Detroit and home Philly, but they can, but no one has an impossible schedule, right? Because everyone's got, there's bunched up with teams that just fell off. Right. But I think they'll at least get to nine, seven and one. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at eight, eight. That's going to have to be a hedge for me. Eight, eight and one is minus one 30. Can your team get to nine, seven and one? Can your team get to tenants this year? Your team can't get to 10 and seven this year. I don't think I wouldn't. Yeah. I wouldn't bet on that. You can get to nine and eight. Maybe. I hate this. It's the giants. Frickin giants. My God. Yeah. Uh, lions Packers. That was a bummer. Smack missed a 26 yard or a 35 yarder. There were two abominable rough in the passers. There was a penalty where the referee got, the guy continued to tackle and the referee got knocked over and threw the flag on his back. I have, uh, my Packer friend, chip, Kane, my roommate, big Brewers fan Brewers up to nothing, but, uh, he said he's claiming he's never going to watch football again. This is the second time the Packers have been hosed. What does the league have against the Packers? This, it is funny that the two worst officiated NFL games this year, the Packers were the team holding their ankles for both games. Yeah. I don't have an explanation for that, but Jacobs dropped the TD. Dan Campbell gave them that crazy fourth and one from my own 24 that then there's like, no, no, no, that was the right move. It's like, man, I appreciate that. It wasn't the right move. I hate that. I hate it. Cause a, they didn't get it. And B, they gave them the ball in the 24 and see, as they were doing it, I was like, what are you guys doing? Just punt. Right. But the boot, the bundle who is on the side of, uh, it was like, no, no, no, it's good. Cause then you get the hammer, whoever has the ball last wins. So then green Bay could have played that right where they wasted all the lions timeouts and been up seven with like a minute and a half left. And then does that count as you having the hammer? Back? Like they, they just, they screwed up. They had a kicker. By the way, smack is the opposite of getting the game ball. Like, all right, the game, the game smack goes to our kicker who was laughable. And it's going to be cut first thing in the morning. Malifour says, trace Mac, come on over here. Let me slap you around a little bit. So I think that's, that's it. But yeah, smack of the day. Yeah. Smack. I had high hopes for this game and it just on paper was the best on the board. And it just sucked for all those reasons. She said Gibbs dancing around at the end, you know, not scoring, that was dumb. Yeah. Like not even getting the first down the first time you said, like the officiating was all over the place. Like how about the Packers jump off sides on the biggest play of the game? Yeah. Right. So we don't even get to see them try to, you know, get the ball back. Something. They didn't even give us that. I just think with, you know, with the Dan Campbell thing, like we don't have to rewind to 1958 where everyone punted on fourth and two from the plus 35, but maybe let's scale it back to 2000. Six, like a couple of decades ago when every coach wasn't your 2013. Yeah. Wasn't lose. It wasn't an absolute maniac passing on easy three pointers, right? Lines could have gone up six at one point. They went for it, stepping on the gas and fourth and anything from anywhere. Like let's just calm down a little bit. I say, I feel like I say this three times a year and I've been saying it three times a year since probably 2008. I I'm not a hundred percent against going it, going for it there, but I think that has to be like your best play. Sure. And the play they ran was this slow starting run from Gibbs way in the backfield. Right. By the time he had the ball, five guys were in the backfield with them and the play had no chance from the get go. And it's like, if that's your play punt, right? Like you like that, that's super arrogant that you're going to do that. But if you're going to do the play action rollout or like, Oh, the Titan or the ride receiver in motion and the quick flip, but there was no ingenuity at all. So I just, I just thought the whole thing was just play before it was bad too. Right. It was the high screen pass and almost like we shouldn't have even been caught, but yeah. Well, they still had 415 yards and 26 first downs and probably deserved to win, but the Packers could have stolen it. One thing to mention with the lions, which I've been monitoring and I keep bringing up Gibbs had 34 touches today for 143 Russian receiver. I know you like this. Yeah. He's at one 66 now through six games. So Dan Campbell's basically like this. I will never be the same after this year. And I don't really care. I'm just, he's basically taking the car. He's driving him 110 miles an hour cross country because he's got a good radar detector. And he's like, I think I can get a cross country in four days and he's just going to ruin his engine. Yeah. And that's what he's doing to get like that. Like to me, that's if he's on pace for over 500 touches in a regular season, not to mention the playoffs, that's insanity. So he's going to get hurt. He, and I think he got hurt at the end of the game today. But he will get hurt. Yeah. And they had Montgomery last year, so they could like split the split the care. But I was, I'm looking at these two teams and do you think Detroit's a lot better than green Bay? Cause I was like green Bay's plus one 18 to make the playoffs. Detroit is minus two 90. I know they have a half game advantage, but they're pretty even should one be minus two 90 and the other plus one 18. I don't know. Yeah. Parsons come back soon. Yeah. And Jacobs looks good. You know, like for a first game back, that wasn't bad at all. Except for the drop, you dropped the drop. Wasn't good. Yeah. One thing with that game, Brady was great in that game. I think Brady and Burkhardt are, they just have the title right now. They're the best announcing team. They're good. He was, he gets very mad about the, uh, the roughing the passers and he's, uh, he's a quarterback. He does. He gets, he gets saucy. I like he, he's really comfortable now, like a DB dropped the pass and he's like, you know why they're DBS Kev? Cause they couldn't play receiver. Right. Right. You put them there and then it's like, sorry, Logan Ryan, you know, it's true, but it was just funny. Like it. And it is true. That's probably how a lot of these guys end up being DBS Rams Raiders. Speaking of announcers, you knew, uh, the Raiders were in trouble as a live money line ended up. Chris Myers was there. They gave Chris this one. We're in trouble. The Rams. Caesar's reward points or something. And they're like, he's like, please, please let me go. Let me do this game. He loves the buffet. The, the Rams had 38 carries for 109 yards. They're basically just, Puka to running backs and 17 white tight ends. I don't even, you can't even McDonald Parkinson. I added a minute. It's like an ABC sitcom show. Uh, and they just reinvented themselves. And now they're a running team that throws to Puka and some tight ends. This can help me. Cause I had lost so much with Houston, but I bounced back with the Rams and Denver, but, uh, and it took a minute for cousins to get rolling and it was too late. Yeah. You said that 150 yards rushing felt like they could do it. 199. Yeah. Was it one 99? Yeah. Oh really? Wow. I felt like they could do whatever they wanted. Like Puka doesn't have a bad game. Like he could be questionable on Saturday and maybe not playing, but if he plays eight catches in a touchdown is about his basement. Like he's, that's as bad as it gets for him, no matter how banged up he is. So, um, he's definitely the hardest guy to tackle in the league. Like somebody be coming straight on and he'll do like this weird stiff arm where he just kind of fends the guy off and key. I don't know how he does it. Yeah. Or two guys will hit them and he just doesn't ever seem to go down. By the way, speaking of, uh, Rams pass catchers, I guess. Thanks for starting. Came Mumpfield against me in fantasy. Good Lord. I was, I would, I can have our receiver. You still didn't. Are you tanking in week seven? What is going on? My other choice was Josh Downs who had 2.8 points. I wrote this with Mumpfield. Maybe he'd get the ball. I saw that. Do I even put in a lineup? This is great. Thanks Simmons. I had guys on buys. I didn't know what to do. The Raiders are on 26. I have another pet peeve. So they score a touchdown. It's 28 to 12. A lot of time left. This is midway through the third quarter. Kick the P a T make it 28, eight 13 scored another touchdown. Kick that P a T make it 28 to 20. Keep it so that it's a three touchdown game so that there's some pressure. If you get that last, touchdown. Now it's a two point. for the tie. What do they do now? Kick the two-point, or they go for the two-point, even though they don't have a running game. Genting in this game was eight for 15, and he's basically a third down back. I think we're realizing. The kid's 61 receiving yards today. So they drafted a third down back with the sixth pick in the draft. It's just the reality of the situation. They don't get the two-point. So they're down 10. Now they're down 18, because they don't get two-point. I'm sorry, 16. They're down 28, 12. All right. I'll trust you. It was 28, 6. Touchdown. Don't get two-point. It's 28, 12. They score again. Let's go for the two-point. This time you have to. They don't get it. Now it's 28, 18. Now you still need two scores. Just kick two extra points. It would be 28, 20. Now you need one score. We've overthought all of this. The nerds are laughing at you. No, no, no. The two points. How about this? Just need three touchdowns and one two-point. It's 22 points. Oh, Bill, that's so foolish, the way you do math. No, no, no. The team that can't run the ball and has a slow quarterback that can't roll out should absolutely go for the two-point. Right. This is what the model says. Does the model have Kirk Cousins and Ashton, five-foot-six Ashton Gentry? Does the model include those two things? Right. And Aaron Donald being on the other team? Because all of those things were in the play today. Really annoying. And it's not like smack is your kicker either. You know? Right. You could kick it. What's the guy on the Browns? Oh, yeah. It's a Y. Yeah. Schmick. Raiders have lost four straight games and they've allowed 155 points. They suck at being. I took them today. They're just fun to watch. It's okay. I actually think there's versions of that game when they either win or come close. And it was just a stupid game. And the Rams were really smart with the way they ran the ball. Panthers-Bucks. That game was my Sunday Ringer 107. I didn't like anything. And what'd you have? The Bucks? I had the Panthers. Oh. That was over in five minutes. Yeah. That was it. 17-6 Panthers score. Going for the PAT. Block kick. Camera goes back to show the kick going through the end zone and stays there. And the ball never goes through. And then frantically, there's a guy running the other way for bringing it back for the two-point, which happens. Every four years? What happens more often, that or the Olympics? Yeah, I don't think I see it. You can go years without seeing it, for sure. So, I had a listener, Steve. Steve Fellin thinks it needs a nickname when this happens. Because it's like the return two-point. What do we even call this? His name is Steve Fellin? Okay, two-point. It's like a defensive two-point conversion or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He says, because it's a long two, it should be called the DeRozan. Because DeMar DeRozan makes long twos. Not against it. His shitting habits you're talking about? No, the long two. He makes 22-foot jump shots. They're called long twos in basketball. You're going to call it the Rex Ryan. Yeah, the longest, biggest twos and the number twos. Anyway, the DeRozan. I don't know. Somebody can top that DeRozan, but something with the long two or we call it. I don't know what it is. Straddling the line, shooting it through. Yeah, yeah. Needs a name. Yeah. Bucks win this game. Baker, seven. Yeah, got it. I was going to say the same thing. Seven completions, 43 points. Ridiculous. 64 yards for Baker. Bryce Young, three turnovers, five sacks. Panthers somehow still in the lead from the NFC South. If you watch this game, you'd think they were like one and 10. Yeah. They ran for, the Bucks ran for what? 258. They had bucked the duck. Kenny Gainwell and Sean Tucker. And the Carolina was never in it. Bryce is back, baby. There was a couple of teams today that ran the ball really well. That were teams that when you watched them earlier this year, you wondered why they didn't run the ball more. Right. And one of them was the Bucks. Because I really like Bucky Irving. I think he's good. And they, he was kind of like an afterthought for them this year, but they let him, let him lose today. Gainwell even played a little bit more. Niners Falcons was another spot game. Where, I guess the Niners were due for one of these. They had 26 first downs, 400 yards and four turnovers and somehow lost. Rat line. Rat line in the week. And I use that rat's tail. I flushed my teeth with it. I was all over the plus two and a half against the undefeated Niners because it made no sense at all. Yeah. And I think Purdy, I don't know if he played, did we talked about if Allen on his buy, maybe clinched the MVP here. I think he's plus one 50 and Purdy's plus four 50 now. I think that's what it is. Purdy job. I'm going to defend Purdy because I've, I've heard this MVP argument guys who caught balls from him today included Watkins, cowing, Farrell, cooks, and James. He doesn't have anybody to throw to. And then McCaffrey went on the blue 10 at one point. I don't know. Well, that came on black was good, right? Like, I mean, that was good. Give like Atlanta credit, like Pennix, that three touchdowns, no picks. He had nine different pass catchers. Bijan only ran for 63 yards and that defense gets stops. Like they, they, they blitz so much less and they're effective and they forced four turnovers. So that Bates interception was superb. Well, you also had the, the Niners got a touchdown and then they, they, they reversed it. And it didn't seem like there was enough evidence to reverse it. And they reversed it. Which one was this? It was the one in the corner to, uh, I think it was to Watkins. Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It was going to be 26, 21 with a lot of time left. Yeah. They turned, they flipped it. And then all of a sudden the Falcons had, the ball and that felt like it swung the game. They'll be all right. The Niners. Yeah. To me, that was like the chief's loss. It's like, you guys are fine. Don't worry about it. 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Wednesday off Thursdays might be over by then. There's no world series game Thursday. No, it's Wednesday and Friday. Okay. Right. Right. Well, I'm going to get this exact, I have Packers by four and a half. No, you didn't do it. I had three and a half. That's what it is. That's too low. I'm skipping this one. I'm not, I'm not betting this. I think our, our, our already, our agenda is, Oh, Panthers suck. Packers need this win. And we're going to get smacked around in this. We're going to take the, you know, who else is skipping it? Me on Thursday night. You will not see me live on Netflix after this game on Thursday, but coming live right after Packers Panthers. No, no, but we're not, I mean, Betty, we're not, I just don't want to, I don't want to touch it. I could talk myself into it. I need to make some, some, some ground back to watchables next week. Lions Vikings. It's hard to put Kyler Murray in the watchables, but I think we have to, especially because they're undefeated in this game in Detroit. And I tic-tacked it. Lions minus one and a half. I said two and a half. It's three. Wow. Six and a team. Yep. On the road, getting three at four and two. Yeah. Okay. You're beating me. Let's go in Denver. Casey will be traveling to a tone for their bizarre Seattle performance tonight. And I think they're still going to be favored. I have chiefs minus one and a half. Can I, this is locked. Was there an injury? What do you mean? It's locked on Fandle. Because there's no line. Sorry, okay, now they have it, I refreshed. Say it again? I had Chiefs minus one and a half. It is Chiefs minus. We both had one and a half. I promise that's what it was. And it is one and a half. Okay. Yep. Did you see anything from Bo Nix today that would make you want to bet against him? You know. Against Patrick Mahomes after a loss? I think that's a great get-right spot for Denver. I don't know what happened with the Rams and Cardinals last week, but before that, the Cardinals allowed like 33-plus points a game. And so, I think it's like sending your kid to the country during the summer. Like, here's 10 acres. Run. Run free, Bo Nix. Go 60 yards. Go whatever you want to do. But yeah, that team is junk, Arizona. But Denver knew what they had to do. Fairly watchable. Speaking of the junkie team, they're playing your team. Cowboys, home for the Cardinals. I couldn't put this line higher than where I got it because. Because I don't think your team deserves it. I have Cowboys minus five and a half. Oh, wow. All right, you still get it. I said eight and a half because I think the Cardinals are real garbage even below us. It's six and a half. One of my rules is you can't be favored by more than seven points. There we go. if I've watched both of your receivers jog through 100 routes in a season already. 100 routes combined. Five weeks. You know what it is? Where I was like, did he stop running? What happened? What happened on that? Is that combined or is that just Pickens? Why did Pickens just. Did he know the play with. All right, next one. Jets Raiders. The Heidi Bowl. Yeah. Let's get Berman. Oh, yeah. The Heidi Bowl. Daryl playing the LaMonica. He killed Kenny Stabler. No, no, that's too. No, that's too. That's too modern. Yeah. Rewrite that. Jets Raiders. I have the Jets favored and they're terrible. I have Jets minus one and a half over the Raiders. Yeah, you get it. It could tic-tac the other way and I could be right. I had Raiders minus one and a half. You got it. It's Jets one and a half. I think we're nearing. Kirk Cousins either gets traded or he's going to have his last start soon. Really? Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Because I think they have some weapons on that team. And you saw a couple teams now. The Pats did this to them too where they're just trying to blitz him and make him kind of run around because he's old and he has a, you know, recovered torn Achilles. Right, right, right. And at some point, I think. I don't think the Raiders are that bad. At some point, you got to put Mendoza in there, I think. I guess. I think he's doing like. He's making Trey Tucker a superstar. I know. He's got the tight end things. That's what I think. They're going to trade him. Yeah. There's a team that needs. Like, maybe that's a Philly spot. He's better than Taylor. Or McKee. Yeah, that's true. If Philly. Like, if Philly beats your team tomorrow, maybe they decide. Oh. You know. Yeah. But you're going to throw Mendoza in there. It's the same thing. Like, they don't have a running game, right? We're not. We're not in love with Chanty. Or do they not have a running game because Kurt can't move? Oh. Interesting. Okay. It's probably because Ashton Chanty's. If he loses to the Jets, maybe you're right. That could be enough. He had a game last year where I was like, I get it. Chanty. He was awesome. I forget who it was against, but he was awesome. And it was like, oh, I get it. I get who. This guy's basically like a better running Maurice Jones Drew type of. I get this. And then he's never had it again. You don't get it anymore? I don't get it at all. You lost it. I don't. I lost it completely. Speaking of losing, I'm definitely going to lose whoever I bet on in this game. Falcons, Bucks, and Tampa. Just stay away. Tampa's basically. I just think you. Everyone's lost. Who's won money on Tampa this year? No, you can't. Yeah. Bowles said they're done scoring points after 43 today. They're like, that's it. I mean, Mercy World? I hope you enjoyed it. Yeah. Falcons in Tampa, and I have the Falcons favored by one and a half. All right. I got this exactly. I did to you what you did to me with the Raiders. It's Bucks one and a half. I don't agree. It'll probably flip. Yeah, I think that flips. Jaguars home for the Colts. It's going to be their seven or seven and a half. Jags coming off a bye. I went with Jags minus seven. You get it either way. I said five and a half. I don't know why I went so low. It is seven and a half. Four to four. I am teasing that. Yeah. Speaking of teases, Rams home for the Chargers. Both these teams share the stadium. That's true. So it's a home game, but no one's going to. Four to nine, buddy. Right. Chargers get to. I don't know what. Do they have their own locker room in that stadium? They must. The crowd's just going to be silent. They'll figure it out in the fourth quarter. It's a silent count game. Yeah. Everyone will be able to hear all the plays. I have Rams minus seven and a half. We both had that and that's what it is. Ooh, we're nipping tuck here. Five-five. Last week when we did Guess the Lions, we thought maybe there would be a Chargers firing or something would happen or nothing. Yeah, nothing. It'd be funny if they waited for this week. I don't know. Do you trust that teaser? Here we go again. I might just take the Chargers as my upset again. 0-6. I don't trust the Rams. I don't think I would put them in a tease. I trust the Jacks. I would put them in a tease. Poop Fecta. Bengals home for the Titans. And I jacked this one up because I think they had to knock this out of teaser range. So normally I would have said eight or eight and a half, but I think, I think this just starts at minus nine and they see if anyone wants to bet the Titans. I have Cincy minus nine at home against the Titans. Good. I edged you out there. I said nine and a half and it's ten and a half. Oh, that's higher than I thought. Yeah. They hate Tennessee. Fandle. Freddie Fandle hates Tennessee. Steelers home for the Browns. It's a good one. We already saw this game and the Browns won. I put this in the Vegas zone. I have Steelers minus five and a half. I got an exact three and a half. Oh, wow. A lot of respect for the Browns. Lots. I mean, Deshaun in Pittsburgh, he sparkles in the fourth quarter. Don't you understand? Dessert Deshaun. I have a souffle for you today. I have some cookies. Please don't eat the veal chop. We have, we have a lobster biscuit. It's terrible. Yeah. You could wrap the Quinshawn Judkins to go. Our Caesar salad has too many anchovies in it. We have a scallop that is really fishy. But again, the carrot cake is unbelievable. Save some room. We have a dry aged scallop. It's been, we've dry aged it since the Brian site. They Patriots in Miami. I don't know what our record is in Miami, but it's not over 500 career. I'll tell you that much. This is a bad one for us, right? This is a dark issue. This, this game, but tell the story. What was it? Oh, 2004. Yeah, it was a night game. Yeah. Monday night, Monday night, the year of teasers even wrote a piece about it. We killed it. You week after week teasers. And then finally Tom Brady Monday night blows a 10 point lead in Miami, Miami scores, Brady interception, fumble something. Miami scores again. Awesome. We lost. I could see the uniforms. I could see the orange. We're too cocky. We learned a lot of valuable lessons. Oh yeah, sure. Too cocky. I got this exactly. So I think I got it exactly too. I put some thought into this. I know I didn't get it exact. Go ahead. Yep. Pat's in Miami. I don't think they're going to Jack this too high because of the history. And I don't think, I think they want to push it over seven, but I think they started at Pat's minus six and a half. Oh, wow. I said seven. It's seven and a half. Oh, oh, you beat me. You'll get there. It'll get there at the seven and a half. Come on. I said six and a half. Yeah. What do you, are you one up on me or two, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, two, eight to five. You beat me. We're tied for the year. Let's do it. No, there's three left, right? I only have the Sunday night and the Monday night. Ravens bills. Did you do Ravens? Bill? Oh, I don't have Ravens bills. Where's that? Oh, the Sunday marquee. I missed that one. Yeah. You just skip the marquee. Kind of a big game. Ravens bills. Well, I got this exact. So you did. Yeah. You'll get this. It's in Buffalo. And I have Buffalo minus three and a half. There you go. There you go. That's the way I do it. Okay. Sunday night. And we'll have Lamar for that Buffalo game. Yeah. I think that's what it's suggesting. Can I predict that house is going to put the Ravens in a tease? That's his boy. Yeah. Sunday night, Washington home for the Eagles. And I don't like it, but I'm going to say Washington minus two and a half. I said three and it is three and a half. God, and you're calling that. This is the worst. This is the worst we'll have come off of. Right? Yeah. So next Sunday night, live on Netflix, we'll be coming to you right after Washington and Eagles. Should we come on and have it? Halftime? Have we ever done that before? Is there a basketball game we could come on after? Maybe we should just come on right after Now You See Everything or whatever the Fielder movie is called. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we'll just do it. Monday night, Seahawks-Bears in Seattle. I mean, honestly, this could be an NFC title for you. For real. It's a fun one. I have Seattle minus two and a half. That's what I had. It is three. It's currently three. But damn, I got to go back to the drawing board. Here we go. Here we go. Really tough. Really, I'm mixing the correct pain medication, I think, now. And it's all working out. See, you're using performance-enhancing drugs to beat me. Cahal tested me before the Guess the Line segment. Cahal said the cross-off team, America agreed with us. 68% was for the Jets. Yeah, enough. 18% for the Saints. 8% for the Commanders. 7% for the Texans. So the Saints are looming for us next week. I think Aaron Glenn should thank us for keeping him around as long as we did. Seriously. Right? I agree with you. We didn't owe them anything. Saints don't play next week, so it could be the rare bye cross-off for them. That's what I'm saying. The Saints or the Texans. We have some thinking to do. Basketball, really quick. So I was in Boston, and I was able to catch up on some basketball. I was there for some soccer games. I went to the Knicks game on Friday night and watched OKC and thought, man, I thought they had the look. Like, really, like a 65-73 win team just killing everybody. And there was some FanDuel bets. I had one bet where I had them 65-plus wins with the Warriors not to make the playoffs because the Warriors are terrible. And that was like plus 235 on FanDuel. I was all excited about that one. And just in general, I thought the OKC numbers were off because to me, they looked like a 70-win team. So I'm watching the football game tonight, and I have the Orlando game on the side TV, and then I have the OKC-Clipper game on. And J-Dub goes up, falls, and you could tell it's bad because the ball boy came over and threw the towel over his ankle, which is like, oh, no. Right. And J-Dub, I guess, either broke or dislocated his ankle. It was something bad. It seemed like the Gordon. Hayward play. That's what I said. But A felt so terrible for him because he was hurt all last year, too, and he was really playing well and looking great this year. The Thunder was like, Shea was crying after the game. He was crying during the whole thing, like when it went down. So I don't, if this is the Hayward injury, I don't think he comes back this year, but it completely changes. This is the biggest thing that's happened in the first week of the season, probably since the Hayward injury. But as weird as this sounds, I don't, he wasn't the best player on their team, but I think he was the hardest guy to replace for them. They had depth everywhere else. And this was the one spot where he was kind of the one-on-one for them. Like this swing man with size, Swiss Army knife, could play different positions, could play a little point guard for them. And I don't know how they're going to replace him. So FanDuel, even looking at the odds, like the odds shifted and San Antonio is now the favorite. The odds dropped, all the win totals dropped for them because that's how important he was. I don't know what they do. And I think they're going to actually have to make a trade because they have a real hole now for what he did. He missed, what, 49 games last year? Yeah, but they had Lou Dort last year. I don't want to minimize it. Yeah, they had Dort last year. Yeah, FanDuel's got it close. They have Spurs plus 300, OKC plus 310. But yeah, you hate seeing that shit. I mean, it was the fact that the worst injury of the day didn't occur in the 12 NFL games we watched on the hardwood an hour before we went live is preposterous. So because I took him to get the one seed, that's a, you could blame me. You still might, you still might get it, but I don't know. So we're, you know, we're taping this. It's 930 at night on West Coast. So I don't know the exact Hayward's thing was like, maybe he, cause it happened up at night. Maybe he'll be able to come back for the, for the end of the season. He never came back. And I would assume that would be the case with this, that they would be careful, but they, they have some picks. They have a swap with the Clippers that they could put in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have some contracts they could put together for, they don't really have any big contracts, but they have some smaller ones or else they could put somebody like Hardenstein in a trade with other stuff. But I, I think they're going to have to get a wing with size. I don't think either. They try to wait till February and get a buyout guy, but they're going to need somebody with size. Well, yeah, that's going to be a huge hole for them right now. I wouldn't give up Hardenstein. Isn't he like, they're kind of their savior when they play the Spurs. I wouldn't give them up either, but it's weird. Cause they have all these big contracts. And then all these little contracts, but like, they don't have that. If they were like, fuck it, let's go all. And we'll try to get Trey Murphy. They don't have the salaries to match up for those guys, like in the twenties. Right. So the guy I would get if I was them as Herb Jones, because he's barely playing for new Orleans. And I tweeted about this this morning. I watched, I was on the plane. The plane's unbelievable. I had NBA. Wi-Fi now in the, I had, I was on JetBlue. I had the director. It's like TV. So the college football and the world series, and then I had my iPad with the league pass and I'm watching all these different games, including, including new Orleans blow this, you know, 19 point lead to Denver because of how bad Jamal Moseley was. But the irony was Herb Jones wasn't even playing in that game as Jamal Murray was going nuts. And maybe that's somebody. Okay. See when you're in this, and you're, I'm guessing you're in the middle seat. Right. And you got all these laptops and all everything going on. I know the people on each side are doing, they must be like, what the hell? And calm down. Just, you know, I gotta say, it's really fun to travel these days. Yeah. The, the wifi is really good. It only goes out like briefly a couple of times, but for the most part, um, I was able to see just about everything. Then, then it seemed like Ole miss was going to come back. Oh yeah. That was fun. Football fan. Yeah. Look at you. World series was on, you know, we had, uh, we had a whole bunch of league pass stuff. So it was, it was a lot of TV, but great, great sports time. Yeah. Herb Jones got buried. That's somebody okay. So he could get, but man, that was such a bummer. And then five minutes after he went down, it looked like Suggs blew out his ACL. Yeah. At the end of the Orlando game, so under, um, and that, that was also probably worse than any. Yeah. How is that happening? I got, were there any bad NFL injuries today? I can't think. Not that I remember the games so weird. So then the Knicks lost today too, and their own three. Now I saw them in person on Friday. The Knicks are fine. They won the title last year. And you, you know, they're, they're not on cruise control, but they're definitely like, we're taking the other team's best shot every game. We kind of have an on off switch. We think it's going to come on. We're not, we're never going to be too concerned. And like in that Celtic game, they just kind of assumed Brunson was going to take over and win it. And the Celtics did a good job defending him. Tatum made some shots. I'm not worried about the Knicks. Can I just say, I just, uh, I'm, I'm proud of you for that because I think NBA holes are the worst in terms of overreactions in the first week. Like we could overreact to NFL games after one week, but after one week, it's still, what is it? 6% of the regular season, right? You watch an NBA game and after like one game, it's 1.2% and everyone's like, oh my God, I was so wrong about Phoenix. Like, shut up. Can we wait two weeks? Can we, you saw two quarters of a, of a miss threes. It's going to be fine. You're not like that. Some people we know just to just go over the top and it doesn't make sense if you're a numbers guy. What people do we know? I'm not going to start all over our text chains, but everyone wants to make a like, oh my, I was so wrong about this. Like it's 2% of the regular season, which also doesn't matter. There's even like a team like Minnesota, which again, one today and people are going to get carried away from them this week. I want to see more of it. Nice start for them. There's only two teams that I really feel like strongly one way or the other, a little bit differently than I did. And I, I was under on golden state as one of my locks when we did the overrunners golden state's awful. And I think, I think that's a really bleak situation. I don't think that's an overreaction. I think they're in a lot of trouble and Curry, what they're going to need from Curry week after week at age 39, just to keep them as a 500 team is not realistic. They can't get rid of them, right? There's just no, it's not. No, no, no. I think, I think it's a gap year for them. I think they're fine with sucking this year and, and maybe look at it. Butler coming back in February, they use the Porzingis thing and kind of pivot to next year. So I don't think, I don't think that's an overreaction actually there's three. I think Houston's really good. And I thought that was going to be the case heading into the season, but I'm really convinced that that's a good team. I like that Houston team. So I'm, I'm a believer in them. Do you add them over anyway? Right. I had them way over. I think I had them as a lock, but yeah, you know, they went from Reed shepherd. And a bunch of no names last year to Van Vliet and smart. They've all been playing together now with the ran for an extra year. And I just liked the way they look. And then it's a semi overreaction, the Miami thing. I think they have fixes the heat and I've watched a lot of the heat. It's kind of, kind of a hate watch because it's probably my least favorite team, even though I respect them. But the Yannis Bam thing has looked really bad. Yeah. They're playing too fast with them. They're playing clay. who I think is washed. I think eventually this will lead too. They're going to slow down a little. They're going to put Larson in for Klay. They're going to stagger Giannis and Bam a little bit. It should get better, but it's an alarming start. That's the sort of thing that you got to let that play out, I think. It's way worse than I thought. This is a 1 out of 10 for where I thought it was going to be. It's really bad. Giannis is like minus 54 in the three games. When he's out there, they don't know how to play with him. I did look at your Warriors thing. I was all over them, following on the text chain and everything. How many wins do you think they end up with? It's tough because you don't want to be in the bottom three anymore. If this was a normal tank year, I would say, oh, they're going to be. I was looking at them for worst record because when I was flying home yesterday, and I think I might have even bet it, it was 33-1 for them to have the worst record. If you put that with OKC to have the best record, it was like 65-1 or something. What do you think they're over under? I saw it yesterday. Before the year, it was 37-1 I think. Now, it's got to be like 34-1. I went under. I think it's an under all the way to 30. Really? Okay. You can get good odds on 30. You can get like plus 250 or something. That is not a good team. That is not a team that has moves. They're paying Porzingis 20 mil, Butler 55, and Moody 12. That's 90 million bucks. None of those guys play. That's 40% of their salary. It's a lot. You watch night to night. The league's good now. Even if you watch a team like Memphis. I'm not saying Memphis is a playoff team, but Memphis has good guys. Boozer's really good. Ty Jerome when he's healthy is good. They rebound. They can defend. Golden State just doesn't have a lot of options. Did they lose today? I didn't even see. They were losing 3% of the regular season. Golden State. Oh, they didn't play. It was Memphis-Sacramento. Sacramento lost to Memphis. Memphis won by 11. Yeah. Golden State plays tomorrow against Denver, and they're going to be 0-4. Oh, and the Sixers aren't going undefeated. Yeah. No, they're going to do the thing where they stagger LeBron. They didn't play Embiid today. Denver's only played two games. But this Brazil that they got, the second rounder, or late first rounder, wherever they got him, he was, he was really, really, really impactful in this game last night and was playing crunch time for them, and he's kind of like Aaron Gordon Jr. But it was just unexpected that this guy is as good as he is. And then the best team for league pass purposes is New Orleans because they have a bunch of talent. They're fun to watch, and they're stupid as all hell. Really? They're just the dumbest team. Yeah. But every game they've been in has been really entertaining. What's the bet you wish you had? I'm looking at Rookie of the Year real quick. It's the same as it was. Well, Sal, as you know, I'm not allowed to bet on it. You're not allowed to bet. Yeah, that's bad. I try to trick you. The one I wish I had more money on was the Luka points per game. Over. There were ones, it was 34, was I think even odds or somewhere around there, and then 36 was like plus 290. 36 a game. Which has only happened a couple times in the last, like Kobe did it, James Harden did it. But like he had 50 today. Their whole offense is geared toward him scoring. Right. I think he's going to be between 36 and 38 after watching them. He just gets shoots like feels like he's going to shoot every time. I think that's the way to do it. Pick two or three players like that. I did that with Ann Edwards over 31. So that's that's where I liked it. Yeah. So Minnesota, I think, is the overreaction team. I want to see it more. They're making threes right now. You know, they've caught some teams by surprise. They're playing. They're really fun. They're having a lot of fun together, but I want to watch it for a couple weeks. Are you ready for parent corner? Do you have any more? Let's do it. No, I think that's probably good for NBA. I just I can't believe I mean, that was a lot of NBA figures just now. It's all right. No, we did. We talk about it on the ringer wise guys. Lots of fun. What do you mean you were wrong about the sons? No, I just someone in our text chain said I can't believe how wrong I was. Like we watch one game. Calm down. It's fine. It's good. Let's do parent corner. Is there do they have the worst record? Bets do right regular season wins. Now they have them on the bottom of regular season wins. So worst record is Sacramento minus 110 Brooklyn plus 450 in Milwaukee plus 480. I would still take Milwaukee on that. Oh, yeah. Five to one. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? And I think Golden State being 33 to one. I still think those odds are way out of whack and we'll go down. All right. Okay. This episode is brought to you by Boris head. What if we told you the taste of deep fried turkey is now available at your local deli? 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My middle son, he's leaving to go take his bike to the Steelers bar in town. It's like, all right, it's still an hour. It takes six minutes to bike down there. Three minutes at 525 a.m. And so like I'm like annoyed that I'm up and I'm annoyed that I was like, first of all, why doesn't he want to watch with me? I'm great here. I get all the games. I go to breakfast sandwiches. It's nice. Yeah, he's not getting hammered at the bar. They only serve him ginger ale. We got ginger ale here. And then I see him like at halftime like posting on Instagram. He's like whooping it up after he's got the French terrible towel after every Steelers touchdown, waving it around. Like what the fuck? And I bet the Steelers I'm like getting annoyed. He's choosing these strangers over me. And then I'm thinking I had to calm myself down. And I'm like, maybe this isn't the right way to think about it. But I was like, he's a football junkie and that's my doing. And I did I did good by him. I taught him how to be fun. Yeah. Like who cares who he's rooting for? This got really heartwarming. Well, it's like an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond. Well, because then I'm thinking like what it really is. Everyone hates Cousin Sal. No, they I just I don't know. Like I didn't give him a better option of who to root for the freaking Cowboys. So go root for it's not like he's going to root for Manchester United. He's watching football and I'm a football junkie like I said. So good on you, Jack. Go watch the Steelers. So he chip he chip off the old block to you. That's it. Yeah, he did. He did. But why did he have to get to the bar an hour early when he doesn't drink in the game? Didn't start till six that I don't get. I never got that answer out of him. So I don't know. Maybe maybe he's hitting a drug dealer on the way there. I'm not sure. I'll have to ask him about that. Maybe he had some drug drop-offs like the wire. Yeah, that's it. Drop-off stuff for his quarters. Yeah. So congratulations. He's a Steelers fan. I know we've already covered this in parent corner. Well, that's the other thing, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm a New Yorker. Grew up a Cowboys fan lives in California. Nothing makes sense. I flew back for it was senior day for my daughter's team. She still has a couple of days left and it's been kind of kind of like year from hell, like just a ton of injuries. She's not 100% healthy either. But so they have this game. There's a big crowd there. They dominate the game. They had the ball all the time. Bunch of chances like in control. It's a classic soccer game where it's just zero zero forever. We kick one over the net. We have point blank like just it was like, oh my God, I've been watching her have games like this forever or I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop or something terrible is going to happen. And two minutes left dubious call long free kick ball goes in the box, bounces out somebody. It hits one of our defenders in the face, which sucked and she's bending over holding her face because it nailed her in the face. This girl shoots it. It ricochets off her as she's holding her face and goes to the net with a minute half left and we lose. And I was like, this is a microcosm. microcosm of all the terrible losses she's had um since i've been watching her play soccer when she was like eight years old anyway one nothing loss but my actual parent corner wait what is she like after the game are you what are you is she inconsolable those are the ones where you're just mad and frustrated right right you're just like i just how did we not what just happened how did we not win that right like um you might remember last week it was my dog murph's sixth birthday i do yeah sure which was on a monday and my wife decided to make him a cake she made like a doggy cake it's that no this is a good one for the dogs but when it makes like some carrot cake with like not a lot of sugar in it no sugar in it i don't know how she did it the next day um so murph's acting weird the whole time uh not really sure what's going on with him and i hadn't hadn't gone to my office the whole day because i was doing podcasts i was in in the back where we have the studio i like where this is going my office is in the front murph's acting weird and my wife's like what's going what's going on murph i'm like i don't know and we watched nightmare on elm street that night because i had to i watched rewatchables twice murph's acting weird he disappears a couple times she's like what's up with murph she goes downstairs to get something and and i hear her going oh no oh no go she goes into my office nightmare in bill's office it's it's nightmare on poop street he there's four different poops on the rug in my office and one of them looked like they had been there since the morning and i think he must have thought after the first one like oh i guess i'll just keep going in here and there's four separate ones in the office and she's going nuts and she's like happy fucking birthday burf lose your mind and he knew the whole day he was waiting for us to find it and uh anyway murph yeah i don't think he'd done it in the house in like two years but the birthday cake so i was like well maybe the birthday cake why why do you have to say that she's just going nuts she has the poop vacuum out with the water she's and uh and it was nightmare on poop street thanks to murph i love it are you sure it wasn't like con canipple something he left you uh last year no we asked my son if it was him wow but one of them was ice cold there was one kind of almost cold one and then two warmer ones so he was just going back in there and what did you stick a thermometer and all what do i know what do you mean because you can tell they congeal oh okay all right this is great this parent corner was brought to you by instagram instagram teen accounts would come with automatic protections that limit who can contact teens the kind that they could see the time they spent in the app learn more about it teen accounts and instagram's ongoing work to protect teens online at instagram.com slash teens accounts all right that's not a parent corner it really isn't the zoe stuff was for sure every time my wife's like we got to get another dog or like it's these stories that we just said no we don't actually have to get another dog murph could be the last one you just have to get one less cake yeah yeah maybe not give them cake next year yeah um dallas tomorrow night i'm irrationally um uh confident in this game i don't know if we can't beat tanner mckee or is this just going to be like barkley goes for like 170 we see like the 2023 shake the saquon he's gonna be 100 tomorrow i don't know i mean he's got the question mark next to him and everything but he's i think he's playing i think it would be i really want the buck acheman situation to get to the point of that will farrell sketch when they're the dysfunctional family dinner sketch where he starts screaming and then he drives a dodge stratus but they're just eating angrily and it's like they have the stuffing i thought you said i gave you the stuff and they just start screaming at each other i wanted i just wanted to get angrier and angrier but i know but i know they have a lot of games together left i know it's a lot and this one's bad so or not the next week wait is next oh next week's good they don't have sunday night yeah now this one's not that good yeah next week's a good one yeah well it seems like they're gonna get greg wilson yeah down the road uh all right anything to plug that's it uh i guess if you had a bad beat with a player going out early take advantage of bet protect on fandle and if you're on a losing end on uh so many screwing endings like texans and packers you're eligible for fifty dollars on bedaches.com give me proof i'll reimburse the best one so bring a wise guys monday tuesday thursday friday big preview show and i have mark schlereth uh this week mark schlereth is the one who claims that he knows this mendoza what what's gonna happen so i'm gonna ask him i'm gonna ask him oh interesting yeah any chance of a world series comeback i hope not i got that at 10 to 1 ticket on the brewers over the rays so uh and peralta's no guarantee tomorrow that's for sure so i had i took the race for the series and really thought they're gonna win in the brewers just spanked them the more interesting one is wmba because that's that's now tied to two for the series golden states plus 110 atlanta's minus 130 and you can bet angel the queen of atlanta plus 100 for mvp but i think that's i think that's tomorrow night too isn't it where is the game did you see they don't even know when where the game is well tomorrow's golden state right it's the next one and then game six they're gonna have to figure out yeah that's preposterous that they don't know where game six is game six is not two weeks from tonight you know what else was preposterous when they sent everyone to the freaking fiba for four weeks yeah that was stopped the season so that it could come back right and go against the world series and college football the nfl that nothing and the nba 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses a new film, *Wild Horse 9*, set in the 1970s and filmed on Easter Island, starring Martin McDonagh, John Malkovich, and Sam Rockwell in a thriller about CIA agents navigating secrets and survival.
  2. The film is praised by critics as a standout, revitalizing entertainment and one of the best releases of the year, premiering in theaters on November 6th.
  3. The discussion shifts to football analysis, with Bill Simmons and guest Sal evaluating recent game outcomes, including a dramatic loss by the Texans due to poor officiating and a crucial fourth-quarter turnover.
  4. A key theme is the unpredictability of the NFL season, with teams like the Chiefs, Giants, and Bengals showing strong performances while others struggle with injuries, offensive inefficiencies, and inconsistent coaching.
  5. The podcast highlights a deep dive into the Giants’ rise, noting their impressive win over a double-digit favorite, strong defensive play, and momentum-building schedule.
  6. A recurring critique focuses on officiating errors, particularly in games involving the Packers and Raiders, where penalties and missed plays significantly impacted outcomes.
  7. The team also explores fantasy football implications, noting the inconsistency of quarterbacks like Sam Darnold and Dan Campbell, and the difficulty of evaluating player performance under pressure.
  8. A fan-driven segment introduces a new term—“the DeRozan”—for a rare and awkward two-point conversion return in basketball, sparking a humorous discussion on naming sports anomalies.

Summary:

The episode begins with a promotional segment for the newly released film *Wild Horse 9*, a sharp-witted thriller set in the 1970s and starring John Malkovich and Sam Rockwell as CIA agents caught in a web of secrets. The film is highlighted as a critical success, praised for its suspense and entertainment value, with a theatrical release scheduled for November 6th. The main content shifts to a detailed football analysis, covering recent games and team performances.

The Giants are noted for a dominant win over a heavy favorite, showcasing strong defense and time-of-possession advantages. The Texans suffer a heartbreaking overtime loss due to officiating errors, including a dropped interception and a poor run play. The analysis also touches on the Chiefs’ inconsistent season, the struggles of quarterbacks like Sam Darnold and Dan Campbell, and the impact of injuries.

A recurring theme is the unpredictability of the NFL, with teams like the Panthers and Packers facing officiating chaos. The podcast humorously introduces a new term—“the DeRozan”—for an awkward two-point conversion return in basketball, inspired by DeMar DeRozan’s long-range shooting. Overall, the discussion blends sports critique with lighthearted commentary, emphasizing the season’s volatility and the importance of player resilience amid constant challenges.

FAQs

Set in the 1970s and filmed on Easter Island, Wild Horse 9 follows CIA agents Chris and Lee played by John Malkovich and Sam Rockwell, who become entangled in a dangerous game of secrets and survival.

Wild Horse 9 stars John Malkovich, Sam Rockwell, Steve Buscemi, Parker Posey, and Tom Waits. It is directed by Martin McDonagh, known for films like The Banshees of Inisfail and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri.

Wild Horse 9 is released in theaters on November 6th.

Yes, Wild Horse 9 is being praised by critics as a revitalizing and entertaining film and is considered one of the best movies of the year.

The FanDuel Rewards Club lets users earn points on eligible settled bets, level up, and unlock bigger rewards, making every NFL season more rewarding.

The podcast discusses the Chiefs' dominant win over the Seahawks, the Giants' impressive victory over a double-digit favorite, and the Raiders' struggling offensive performance with poor decision-making on two-point conversions.

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