A Fever Dream With Jason Benetti | Hour 3

The Yankee shot to the sun, the giant above, from rays that Dan Lowe's, a sample will celebrate. Singing today, the words we all say, happiness, they'll sing with the glow, I know they'll do it with Sinatra's words, oh, they'll choose. Start, start, start spreading the renews. Jeremy is a super pissed off at Chris Cody because he says that Chris Cody stalled his limited fake Jason Benetti doing limited fake boog. I know this is my bit. I do it better than Jeremy. No, no, you don't. You just start talking slow and you speed up with him. No, the key is the deep breath. Jason, you want to get in on this? I know it is better. So Jason Benetti is our favorite announcer in any sport. He's the play-by-play announcer of Sunday Night Baseball on NBC and Peacock. And he's also a raging coward because he refuses to do our catchphrases when the Yankees around because the Yankees are holy and sacred and he's got a treat baseball correctly. But we've had an assortment of other announcers throughout sports. Do Greg Cody's catchphrases? It begins with Kyle Brandt. But we have a great game tonight with two quarterbacks. Winno, driver, confidence, paramount. And you know the bills will probably win at home, but you never know those lions. Uh, you've got Ross Tucker doing it during an NFL game. Tight ends, running backs, working pretty well for the Steelers, first in San at the Cleveland 30. Yeah, we're rolling now, huh? Troy Fattano with an incredible block on the toss crack out in space. Their left tackle is an athlete. Uh, you have Kevin Harlan doing it during a dolphin game. Offensive one is Kent, bombs, clean and quiet. He tries his offensive, drivers comfort is paramount. And you've got Arkansas broadcaster Hayden Herrera doing 16 of them in a minute and 20 seconds. Well, I know everybody wants to know the Arkansas Texas A&M game. Who won? We're not going to show you that. Only two razor backs ran in the men's 8K, but the women's team had a full squad for the 5K. We're rolling now, huh? Look at this kick down the home stretch. The definition of Yannevano. Calm, giving it everything she has. It's a fight to the finish in calm. Gets the win by one 10th of a second 1559. Absolutely incredible. Talk about me maximum. Braeland, good on you. Number two, Georgia. Georgia moves to 5-0 with a 38-14 win over Vanderbilt. Russell threw for nearly 300 yards and had four total touchdowns. Very good. Just like that, the tighter 5-0 and you know what? Austin Simmons had two touchdowns and the Gators had no answers. That's a fact, Jack. A colossal win for Eli Drinkwoods in Mizzou. 45-17, the final from Columbia. Another crisis solved. Our Byron Brown finds Arlus boarding him. 16 yard touchdown. It's a three-point game. Do what now? Balls and Hogs kick off Saturday at 3-15 PM. Honest, you see network right on. Finally, you see they're trying to line up. That is weird, wild stuff. So instead of an extra point, they decide to go for two. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Kenny Minchi, to a wide open Willie Rodriguez for the two-point conversion. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. And what a start to the Will Stein era in Lexington. Kim Tucky wins in overtime and the Wildcats are four in one. That kind of thing. Do what now? I can feel Jason Benetti's shame from here. Benetti, welcome to the program. It's good to see you. Hi, gentlemen. I just have a quick Broadway-related question for you. Is that okay? Might I ask a question of you as a group? Yep. Have you ever seen Little Shop of Horrors? Of course. Yes. Classic. The movie. What do you think of the musical Little Shop of Horrors? Haven't seen it yet. Well, the movie is a musical kind of. It is. So, yeah, what do you think of the movie? What do you think of the Rick Moranas? Yeah, I like the whole thing. What do you think? Big giant Eden flower. Yeah, it's a good name. Feed me, Seable. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So, at the end of the movie, at the end of the movie, what happens? Everything gets eaten because of one little pin prick on his fingers. Seem more feeds that plant. Just feeds the plant. Feeds it a little bit. You feed the plant and you keep doing the same thing over and over again. And then suddenly the whole world's gone. I was concerned about the tentacles of the plant that were getting built in front of me. And having that be a cautionary tale, I just didn't want to fall into the same pitfall as Rick Moranas in that movie. And I figured if I kept feeding the same plant, number one, destruction would come. And number two, I think it would get a little bit boring, honestly. I kind of think Ben there had done that. We had a great time, right? We had a great time raiding my tone. And then, and then I do it again. Like, the sequels never better, man. The sequels never better. So I, it's not shame. It's more just an abstention and a very poised decline. There you go. So you're a prick and the coward? Absolutely. What did you make of the way the Yankee season ended, Jason? You know, I think it was one of those like, you beat Boston and you feel like, man, you know, they could be rolling. And then you show up to feed. We're rolling now. Team like Tampa and you're like, work the tropic can of field remotely. I love the raise so much. See what happens. You see what happens when you do something like that. It just falls flat when you do it a second time. He was trying the internet cut out. He was trying to do. You're going to go to tropicana field with Bernie Parmaly, but the internet really screwed him up. Oh, my internet died. Yeah, I was doing a bit. I was bringing it back. Devastated the internet died Rick Moranis. It would have worked. Unfortunately, it didn't. And you remain a prick in a cow. The way they ended their season, though, cashman apparently is going to come back. Aaron Boone is apparently going to come back. So anemic without Giancarlo Stanton and Aaron Judge. Legitimately, the worst statistical postseason a Yankee offense has ever had in our most historic sport. I just don't know how the noise can get much louder around the way they failed, right? Getting swept by the raise. A team that has such a smaller payroll. Having one of the games, 17 errors in the first inning. Like how much worse could it have possibly been? And what's it going to take to actually have them have some, you know, leadership change? Well, I think part of it is to like the way it happened to a team in your division, as you said, Dan, and to Tampa Bay. Who was one of the best teams in baseball? But nobody in New York wants to hear that. They want to know why we're not Tampa Bay, right? And that's the way that's going to go. So I just wonder if they believe like small sample size, whatever it might be, or like Hatter and Judge not gotten hurt. You can convince yourself a lot of things over the course of a baseball postseason. That's absolutely true. But I, you know, I do think there's a piece of this where you go, OK, you know, a couple of years ago we decided we needed to be more athletic. We got more athletic and we still didn't win a title. Something I totally understand where Yankee fans are coming from when they say something has to change. But like there is star power there. Ben Rice is a legit star. I think George Lombard is going to be a really good player. But that's not enough against a team in Tampa that was loaded with athleticism and loaded with guys who catch the ball and loaded with starting pitching. So yeah, I wonder, I really do wonder what it's like in those halls because I wonder if it's that spider man, spider man thing where you're like pointing. I'm sorry guys. My home internet went out like five minutes before the show. So I apologize. And now I feel like I should just do it in full blare with project mode and go horizontal. Yeah, just keep doing it as you talk. You are finishing the point though, of the spider man meme. Who's pointing at each other? Keep flipping. I think everybody in the hallways, right? When you struggle to win, I think that's what ends up happening to in your hallways. You can keep doing that as you answer the question. So let's do it on this one. Keep spinning it around as I ask you what it is that you make of the home run that wasn't a home run that became a ground rule double yesterday. I thought I was going to be the one that got myself in trouble by mentioning Jeffrey Mayer on a non Jeffrey Mayer sort of situation the other night in the Red Sox Yankees wild card stuff. But we ended up with full Jeffrey Mayer. I think it's a really tough one, but it's all like umpire, discretion, and New York had a great look at it. It looked to me like it was interference. So, you know, I mean, it was a better look that they had in New York than you have of me certainly right now. How we doing? We good? We feel good about it. The video room is so, they're so mad at me right now. The video room is furious with me for telling you to keep doing that. Yeah, they're upset, but we should just lean into the fact that his internet's not working. He looks like he's in a washing machine and I'm watching him go around or a dryer I guess. Both of them both. Yeah. Do you want me to make thumping sounds while I do it too? Like, like, two tennis shoes, like, a thump, a thump, a thump, a thump, a thump. Yeah. It's a really good thing to know walker to thump, thump, thump, thump. Yes. Dipper, plank, plank. Yes. In fact, tell, give me a serious answer while doing that to who presents the greater challenge to the Dodgers, the Rays or the Brewers. -You know, it's a thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump >> I love the brewers and I love the raise I love the way both of them play baseball the athleticism that is in that sport at the moment Jason is it's just crazy it's a there can't be a time in baseball where the athletes are what they are today. >> No, I don't think so I think I think it was a lot of guys who were kind of one-dimensional back in the day when baseball started and I think major league baseball did a really good thing by creating these rule changes to allow for teams like Milwaukee and Tampa Bay with a very defined style of play you know back to the Yankees. I think what we're learning at least in this post season is teams that know exactly who they are and what they are willing to sacrifice and what they are willing to really lean into just in terms of skill sets right I think I think the white socks have shown that to be something that's really important now I feel like an Andy only thing missing is the Campbell suit can right now on the top of my head or is this like a depeche mode music video or something. I feel like I should just go and I run I run so far you're going to cost us money on top of that by singing songs it's not just six seconds. It's not so you got the lyrics wrong and that's not the Pesh mode but it felt like the kind of song that you want to do that. This is brilliant. This is real. This is like if and be Davis dropped acid before she became the Brady made it's flock of seagulls why can't you get anything right you're a block of seagulls. >> No, no, no, I knew that wasn't the Pesh mode, but that song came into my head after I said to Pesh mode. >> Strangeloves people are things things are upside down in my mind and things are. >> This is crazy man why is it kunya so stinky but I mean he was great in the regular season I this baseball small sample size five game series stuff drives people crazy because if you don't perform in three games you're just toast and it feels just so different than the than the baseball regular season. >> I I really like the overreaction both to my internet and to the way baseball is in the postseason. >> Except it doesn't happen to the Dodgers except it's their ninth hitter and McGill Rojas that saves their season it's not even guys that are well I mean Freddie Freeman and others but if Otani can be bad bets can be bad and it doesn't matter. >> A kunya matata because because you're you're insulated because you have more of a chance because you know the bigger payroll you have more of a chance to and they they went for it more than everybody else right like the brewers had a chance to go get Terrick Scoobal they didn't so if they end up short on pitching at the deadline we can debate fault but one the one thing that they didn't do is go get a big name starting pitcher so yeah I I mean I understand where you're coming from totally on that I think it's just a matter of can you in a short ish series can you overcome the war that you have when it comes to salary cap we were talking earlier in the show with David Samson and I was pointing out that there are so many low salaries that are remain in the playoffs the Dodgers are the only big one everyone else is 19th or lower but seven of the top nine payrolls I believe did indeed make the playoffs where are you on the work stoppage that's obviously approaching and the need for a salary cap when it is a small sample but the low payrolls are still playing baseball. >> Yeah it is a it's a question that is way above my pay grade in terms of answers but where I am on sports in general we've talked about it before it is not just a general answer I'm not trying to dodge it I really like seeing underdogs win I think it's good for sports to have the NCAA tournament have 15 seeds win I think part of the goal of sports nowadays feels like trying to eradicate the underdog so to me one of the things we need in sports at all times is David versus Goliath now how much the David's try and how much the Goliath's try is up for you know debate and collective bargaining but I like having both in the post season I think it's valuable to viewership and I think it's valuable to like have people who are from different parts of society care about different teams so to me the one thing that worries me across the sports landscape again I'm not in the room on the collective bargaining but like but what if I was that would be hilarious because then they would just replay that that dryer bit over and over again to my credibility but but I do think we need to still have the little guy matter and have a chance to to win I don't want to sound like Horatio Alger in social studies class in like freshman year of high school but rags to riches matters what's your favorite storyline for the rest of the playoffs you know what if I think Milwaukee and the Dodgers can the brewers stress the Dodgers can the brewers make the Dodgers either impatient or can the brewers make the Dodgers throw the ball all over the place can Milwaukee's pressure cooker type of offense and then miss right how much does miss throw but I wonder if the brewers can knock the Dodgers off their spot early and what happens with the Dodgers thereafter I mean I still think Cleveland can end up beating the white socks in these next two games I am interested in what the white socks could do if they get through because they do have that kind of team of destiny flavor so Milwaukee putting pressure on the Dodgers is number one and if the white socks get through how far can they go just based on based on kind of like vibes and power why do the white socks have more of a team of destiny flavor than the raise or the brewers or the guardians I think it's Mike Vassel's magic wand I think I mean like the the white socks have been that team all year that when the tigers went there and over the last three years and I had done their games before you'd feel like something bad was going to happen to the white socks very early this season that ballpark flipped and it became a place where you go oh we're going to lose they're going to figure it out late they've had like Miguel Vargas is a great story two years ago when he got created a traded from the Dodgers to the white socks he was sitting in the dugout and looked for Lauren looked like he was really in a bad place and had horrible numbers and he's turned out to be one of the best players in the American league this year I mean they have such young talent and they have you know they have Mike Vassel who you know I don't know how much your viewers have seen him but like he's a pitcher on the IL and he's got this magic wand that he just like waves at people which frustrated scuba earlier in a tiger game this year but like it's kind of funny like they do they just have kind they have like a like a 12 year old at a birthday party just being themselves sort of vibe and I think that has been pretty valuable for them this year yes or no if the white socks make the world series Obama and the pope will throw out first pitches they absolutely the white socks will pursue that I think they would I think they absolutely would hey Jason is that Wi-Fi settle in down a little bit is it just me looks like it yeah I mean it's that this is this is all for G L T E or whatever we have now we unlike seven G what do we got going on just oh you know you don't have Wi-Fi damn I do not oh damn I have such a sick idea that I would love for you to take part in but it's a yeah you can try we you can well I sent you an email of some dialogue that I would have already ate the apple yeah but I can get you another apple I wanted you to recreate a scene in Dracula the audio book and it was gonna be great it's gonna be really funny and then the Wi-Fi ruined everything Dracula the audio book as though it's different in the oh buddy is it different all right let's play it for him the pause from me as you're Lucy and now drink it is you the figure in my drink drink no no no there is no living you are not a regular way drink from me and with this baptism of my blood Blood in your mouth. Throat and veins. You shall be my servant. - Why don't you do that with Zaz? - What, can I do it as droopy dog? - And with the baptism of your blood in my veins. (laughing) - Yeah, if you could read the script. - Do you have it? Do you have it in front of you? - We did email him, but he just got to switch text. - What boom doing here? I heard what boom doing here. - Why boom being attacked by Gregor? - Blood in your veins? - Yeah. - My head. - You will nod, my head. - Yeah, get him a liar. - It is, I am with Jeremy, and you do need to have this sort of vibrato. Like the low hum is one of the hallmarks of a good fake boog. - Yeah, you will nod, wriggle away. - Yeah, that's pretty good. - The Tuesday. - Pretty good. - Right, the two, too. And then JD Times, and with something, that is almost understood by them. (laughing) - The two, too. Do you have Wi-Fi? Have you gotten it? Are you willing to partake in this stupidity of this exercise? - I literally don't have Wi-Fi. I have a blinking orange light on my eye. The only thing I could do is try to minimize the screen on my phone, but we're talking Maytag, with no quiet situation again. - It's all right, brother, do it right. All right, we'll do it next time, but one more question that I wanted to ask you. One more baseball question. Oh, Tony, he is batting 163 with no home runs, one RBI and 32 strikeouts in his last 86 plate appearances. He's in no way healthy, correct? - I have to imagine there's something going on, right? I have to, all that is fantastic, is that? I couldn't tell whether or not there was a smiling going on because of the Dracula moaning in the background because there was another fit happening. I do feel like we need to go to Arnold's and Fonz he's going to be here in a second. This is the open to happy days, but from hell. - Saturday, it's the question. It's the question about Tony and quick getting tested. - I did, no, I did. I said there's got to be something going on, right? If he's swinging it like that, I just imagine there's something going on, but there are a lot of guys by the end of the season who won't tell you if there's something going on with them or whatever. So I have no idea, but I can't get that picture of myself in a dryer out of my head. And I don't know if that's going to haunt me or if it's going to be something I laugh at. Yeah, that's, I mean, that really is, that really is what nightmares are made of. - The play-by-play announcer for Sunday Night Baseball on NBC and Peacock, he is the best. Thank you Jason, good seeing you. - Sunday Monday, have a meeting. - Sorry about my wild boob doing that. Happy day, Steve is a good, and with the baptism of your blood in my veins. - See you later, Jason. - He wriggled the way. - Hey, you forward to see you later. Good seeing you. - Down Levitar, pull a finger in there, but if you tell anyone on the night, Mike Ryan, don't just stare at it, eat it. - This is the down levitar show. (upbeat music) - I see the reaper out of the corner of my eye. - It's sweating. - Death always appears over my shoulder when Zez is moaning in a central fashion. I get very uncomfortable. Let's everybody go now, he's shaggy. Let's go to the bucket, please. Chris Cody's going to go first here. - And let's remember a mean ozo punishment. - No, that mean doesn't, precedent is on my side. - No, there is no precedent. I am the president. - Oh, I got the chiefs on a buy, heck yeah. - Congratulations, Chris, no one's happy for you. Let's go to Michael Ryan. (upbeat music) - The Raiders. - They're at the Patriots, they're a three and a half point dog. - They won that game last year, but I'm putting them down. - They did win that game last year. - It's right in the right. - Just kidding, the Patriots lost three times. - It was all a single pick, the AFC champion, week one. - Browns. - On the road, they did it too. The Browns are at the jets, the Browns are in one and a half point dog. - All right. - Man, what a great story that team is. (laughing) - I'm rummaging, who are the, who are the buy teams? - Chiefs and Carolina. - So I'm okay, I don't understand. - I got the Seahawks, they're playing the Niners. - They are at home and they're at 3.8. - I'm throwing it back. - Yeah, put those kids to bed. - He said, I want Carolina this time, insinuating, he got Carolina another time, which means he participated in that week, which means he owns a punishment. - I got a Brock Party MVP ticket that I've been sending on since preseason. I'm feeling pretty good. - I got the Rams, oh. - Okay. - I had home against the bills. They're a 3 point favorite. - I don't feel good about that, that's me and that. - Your favorite home. - It's a tough opponent, it's a tough opponent. - Most of these spreads, this week or close. - They're the Raiders. - Yeah, they're the Patriots. - They're a 3.5 point favorite, there aren't a lot of big lines, they're not a big lines this week, like a few touchdown favorites, but everything else is close. There's not a lot of good stuff in that helmet. - I have the Chicago Bears. - The Bears are at the Packers and they are one and a half point favorite for the first time in 20 years at Lambo. - And that's two, that's two toes. - Let's see. - Those are the Packers, winner of the Bears lose. - The Buffalo Bills. - All right, so you downgraded. - They are on the road and an underdog at the Rams as a 3 point goal. - Head to head with a mean. - Yeah, is that Monday night, by the way? - It is. - It is, yes. - It's a good Monday night game. - Yeah. - Zaz is gonna select now. - I have Army, Navy. What is it, TY? - Thank you for your service. - All right, so you got Army at home against Tulane. You got Air Force on the, the biggest favorite is Air Force at Northern Illinois. Seven and a half point favorite. And what's Navy? Navy's a two and a half point favorite at home against Tulsa. - And what was Army? - Army's three point favorite at home against Tulane. - What about Air Force? - I'm not doing this. - We're about to Coast Guard. - We always forget about them. - I'm gonna put it back. - Really? You think you're gonna do better than a seven and a half. - Put it back, he hates the troops. - I was thinking to take an Army. Not even Air Force. - I don't know, I got trusty. - I can put it back. - No. - Back, I don't care. - Wow. - Wild. - One of the worst decisions that I had to make. - Got the Titans. Good. - Oh my God. - That might be the worst. - This guy's already lost three out of four weeks. - You should have waited to take two of the Coast Guard's on a buy. - Oh my God. What a disaster for you. - The Titans are a seven and a half point underdog at home against the Texans. It's just brutal. - Every week. - I got the Jags, I'll keep them. They're a seven point favorite against the Eagles. Thank you, Reaper. Excellent work. - On the game. - There's a couple of things that we've talked about today that I want to put a ribbon around. We reach out to Dominique Foxworth. It is not true that he was held out of that Nick Sabin segment. - What was the direct quote? - Not true. - I asked him, is it true? You were not able to go on with Nick Sabin because they thought you were gonna challenge him and he says not true. - Okay, so I have a quote here from, you know, look, this is on his own podcast and forgive me because I did get some of this wrong and I'm not looking to cause him any trouble here. - Sounds like you are. - No, I just want to get it right. - Well, that would be-- - Maybe we should pay attention to his direct quote now. - Well, but he said there's something on his podcast that he said that he wished it. - Right, but the denial that we just got. - Okay, fine, fine, we'll move on. - I mean, I know you want to be right, but maybe you should take a tip from Stephen A. Smith who quite frankly, Dan, I think he nailed this apology. Yeah, it's so good that I kind of feel like he might have gotten coached up a little bit. - So I recognize some of this based on what it is that you were saying. - There have been times in my career, okay, when I have stepped in it and my initial response filled with ego and defiance is sort of a stubborn leaning into it. And then I realize after 12 hours, there are so many people who I respect telling me that I'm wrong, that I have to reconsider my position. Now, clearly, I don't respect anyone in this room on what it is that you're saying or dominating Foxworth because on his own podcast, I have quotes that are different than what it is that you said. But, I didn't do it again. - It's crazy now. - But as-- - When Stephen A. is better at it than Dan. - Stephen A. was better about it today after he did, the rinse repeat move that he's been doing for a while now, which is say a thing on first take, get the blowback and then say the thing on your own platform that you continue to grow while at ESPN because he is preparing for his next move while at ESPN and he wants to make sure that he's got his own thing independent of ESPN because there are obstacles and an assortment of potholes in front of him on whatever is, him at 60 years old at ESPN, as ESPN makes very substantive changes to the way that it does business. But let's identify for a moment what it is that happened here and the core issue, because I am actually very encouraged by what I believe to be a seismic shift in how people react around mental illness that have people hearing that Lane Johnson left football and extending an athlete, humanity and compassion. And I don't even think any more that it's actually empathy. I think so many people are struggling right now with an assortment of so many unhappinesses and things from the exhaustion and chaos of what just is happening everywhere around the world, that it's not empathy even. It's just simply Lane Johnson being extended compassion and Stephen A Smith acts as an avatar for a very easy thing to attack because he wasn't being any kind of humane, decent or compassionate in how it is that he reacted to Lane Johnson quitting football because he's in pain. How much do you think the reaction has to do with the participants involved? Lane Johnson being a popular figure and Stephen A Smith being an easy target to go up against. That has something to do with it. Also in his apology, he referenced Jake Glazer and wouldn't surprise me in the least if Jake Glazer reached out to Stephen A. But I actually think this entire story is a reason to be hopeful because Lane Johnson was met with universal praise and understanding at least in the national media space. And Stephen A's opinion used to be the norm. Used to be the only opinion that was espoused and very few people would be talking about Lane Kiff and doing the right thing and being sorry Lane Johnson doing the right thing. Lane Kiff has never done the right thing. And showing the proper empathy. By the way, in Stephen A's apology, he went on to say like his deepest regret is that his reaction to it might have stopped people from seeking the help that they need because he is playing to a trope that makes it very difficult for people to seek help, especially with his prominent role there. I think this entire experience down to the pitch perfect apology is growth for everyone in the sports space. It's also interesting to me though that over the last 10 years what you have seen in a narrative shift in general about those are human beings wearing those gladiator pads. When it comes to the violent hits, we now have a recoil that's pretty instantaneous on that illegal now. You can't allow that safety comes first. And when it comes to the damage and pain that that sport causes where these guys are literally limping through retirement to early deaths. We're all understanding that sports has mental health challenges. When you're sitting here fighting over money that I'm telling you, I associate with DeMar de Rosen and Kevin Love not that long ago sort of helping us change the toxic masculinity or the armor that men have notoriously worn on crying is weakness, anxiety is weakness, sharing your feelings is weakness, telling people you need help is weakness. And there's just been a shift that made everyone turn on Stephen A Smith with what used to be man style, man up, don't quit, tough it out, bury your feelings, swallow it in brown liquor, make sure that nobody knows that you're hurting. Don't do that to your teammates. Don't do that to your fan base. I'm actually in retrospect glad that Stephen A went through what he went through here with the initial reaction that was on the wrong side and then working it out and 24 hours later admitting the error of his ways and actually doing some good work through his apology. I think that this is all great. It's just really a big change though. It's really unusual. I don't look, I'm sure in Philadelphia, I'm sure that when your feel good gets taken away because that guy makes your offense good. I mean, I really can make the argument that the most important player on the Eagles the last 10 years. It's not safe on bark. It's not it's that guy. Like I can I can make the argument on an offensive line that had a bunch of pro bowlers on it and he was the best of them. He's the best right tackle ever in the history of the sport. I don't know how anyone can question his particular toughness. Well, look, we saw the push back and we're happy with the reaction from people because again, I think it's easy to look at Stephen A and say, Hey, you're you're being a jerk in this spot. But like yesterday, you think if you turned on WIP in Philadelphia, you think the caller is all like, Oh, this is this is really good. I feel good for lunch. One step at a time on progress. Like it's these things aren't linear. Yeah. And also like there is a part parcel of being upset. He's not there for my team, but also like upset that he's going through something so tragic that he's got to be like enough. I can't do this anymore. Yeah, he's missed time because of antidepressant withdrawals. I think that this is being met inside that market in in large part too because he's so accomplished. And he was so good for that franchise. But let's not forget what Paul George went through last year where it felt like it was a line of convenience rather than everyone pretty much buys in knowing his history and respecting the man that this is so. I think that's the important part. You asked if is it because it's Stephen A and he's an easy target. How about if this is Jalen Hertz? Do people be like, Yeah, man, don't do the he has the right to do that? Or are they like, this? Yeah, I see your point. And it wasn't lost on me. The different one of the main differences between Paul George and Lane Johnson. I mean, Jalen Hertz is a super bowl MVP. I know he's kind of going through it right now with that fan base, but they would kind of help explain some of the stuff that we'd see. And I do think that he would get certainly a lot more grace in Paul George got a lot of people are also pointing out that both of Lane Johnson's parents are sick. And Stephen A did mention what it is that I was saying to you before that it wasn't just glazer that reached out. It was also Michael Wilbon. He Stephen A is developed a bit of both armor and immunity on the idea that he wants to fight with everybody and it must be wearing. But when the people you respect the most reach out to you and say, and I've said, I've had it happen to me where I get where I buck up with ego, I get a little bit defiant on, let me say what I want. And then I start hearing from the people who I respect. And when they tell me that I've got it wrong and I hear from multiple of them, then you have to look in a mirror and you have to do what it is that Stephen A did today. But this is another thing that's happening in the manosphere just so that, you know, don't apologize is a thing. Like don't be a man. Don't ever apologize. Like don't you do not need to apologize double down double apologize double down. It's called the death theory. Yeah. Stephen A rarely ever does what he just did today. Who said that? He had to do what it is that he did today because he didn't have any allies. There were none. Like it was a chorus of shouting him down on please respect mental illness.