A candid girl talk about birth control

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Nice. - Try one. - Mmm. ♪ Bites, ba-choo-ba-da-ba-doo ♪ - King's Hawaiian Cinnamon Bites. ♪ Don't you love 'em ♪ - There's nothing like it. ♪ Sweet swelling ♪ ♪ He's so good ♪ - If you're curious why I'm wearing a turtleneck in June, it's because my husband gave me a fake hickey that turned into a real hickey. - Those take a minute to go away. - So long! I look back, and I'm like, "Dang, going on birth control?" So young. If only I had gone back and looked at lifestyle and given myself time and just been educated, maybe, on my cycle. - So you can get pregnant if you don't have a period. - I just want everyone to know that. When I said we're just gonna do condoms, she was kind of like, "Just so you know, they're only like 98% effective." - Just so you know, you have to use them. - Yeah. - Welcome back to - Always Here. - We're your hosts, Abby Howard. - And Abby Howard. - Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen. - Let me tell you, we really wore out the fact that we have the same name on this trip to Tahoe. - We really did. - Everywhere we went, it just came up. I feel like they just placed it in our lap. - Yeah, it did. - It was just too easy. - We went to this taut spot and they were like, "What's your name?" You had to sign up your kids and it was like, "Abby Howard." And then I was like, - "Abby Howard." - And then, "What's your name?" - The coffee shop. - The coffee shop 'cause we switched drinks. And they were like, "Oh, don't worry." She's like, "What's your name?" We're like, "Same." - Target pickup. I got your target pickup. I said, "She put it under my name "because we have the same name." Got her stuff when she was on the plane. - We were just really-- - We were really, we were reaping the benefits. - Reaping the benefits. - A lot of benefits to this. - It gets more convenient as we get older, I think. - Seriously. The more we spend time together. - Yeah, truly. Oh yeah, same name. So that was great. Tahoe was amazing. - Yes, we went to Tahoe with Matt and Caleb, our husband's family. And we stayed at a house that we've stayed before. It's like a family owned house. - Yeah. - Relative family. And it was super fun. - It was. I felt like the house was the perfect size where everyone had their own space. - But we had to hang out. - Yeah, we had to hang out. But if you needed alone time, it was easy to like go separate yourself a little bit. So I think that's the perfect, especially 'cause it was a week long trip. So of course you're gonna need some recharge alone time. And so I feel like it was just the perfect balance of quality hang time, outdoor activity, chill, rest, nap, relax. - I think also it was great traveling with the kids because it's built in semi schedule. It's like you have to get out in the morning because you have the afternoon nap. So then we all like would collect ourselves and get out the door in the morning. - Yeah. I feel like we would have maybe lingered more and like not made a plan. And then like, then they have bedtime. So you make plans more. And so we did a lot, but we also rested a lot because there's like three hour nap break. All of our kids really do take long naps. - They take long naps. CJ's still a three hour napper. Vivian takes like one long four hour nap 'cause she's a baby. - She's a baby. - You just squeeze it all into one. - You're such a casual mom. - That's really nice. - I was really thinking that when she was in the back of that bike. - I really felt bad about that. That one actually. - No, why? I think she was having a blast. - Really pushed that girl until like 2:30 PM. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, we just push her a little too far. - 'Til 2:30. - It was late. She had no nap that whole day. I mean, she had opportunities to sleep on the go and she chose not to actually. So maybe it's her fault. - Really? Like she doesn't sleep in a car seat? - She's just an extrovert. - She wasn't ever in a car seat. - She was never in a car seat, yeah. She does sleep in her Duna, but if she's like in it, but that whole time she was worn or held or in a bike. - She was a chill mom. - She'll sleep when she's warm. - Not anymore. - Actually, I don't know if Brielle would. - Yeah. - I haven't worn her in a long time. - Yeah, not anymore, sad. But she did really good the whole time. - That's good. - Yeah. - It was fun. - What was your favorite activity that you did? That we did or you did? - Well, I honestly think that it was really fun to bike and go to that little cafe and get ice cream afterwards. - I thought the food was amazing at this cafe. Did you think it was, or was I just really hungry? - I love everything. - Caleb said, I kept like raving about this food. It was like this little general store along the trail. - Yeah. - You walk in, it doesn't look like it's going to be good. - I felt like you weren't excited when we walked in. - No, I truly thought it was just going to be like cold-cut sandwiches. - Well, that's because, yeah. - That was the vibe that we picked up. - Yeah. - And then you get in there and they're like, no, we have a full menu. - I thought the food was really good. - I was in disbelief of how good this food was. And I kept going to Caleb, like, that's the best Philly steak sandwich I've ever tasted in my life. Can I have half of it? And, you know, I kept mine. But I was like, wow, that's incredible. And then later, he's like, you really liked that food. But I think it was just OK. And I was like, what? So was it as good as I thought it was, or was I just starving? - Maybe not as good, but I was so hungry. We were hungry. - Really hungry. - Yeah. - Yeah, that was a really fun day. - That was fun. It was fun. We got a boat. We went out, and the water was freezing cold. Not the air, but the water was cold. - The water was cold. - It was like in the 40s. - Yeah. - And-- - The air was chilly when we were riding, but it wasn't horrible. - No, it was just really beautiful to see from the lake. - It was so beautiful. - It's a really beautiful lake. It's like the deepest lake in the US, I'm pretty sure. Maybe globally. - Well, we were on that boat for two hours and got just-- I mean, I felt like we traveled far, and we didn't really go far at all. - Yeah. - Comparatively to this massive lake. We actually drove around the lake the one day when we kind of did our own family days, and it was really fun to drive around it. And yeah, you just see just how massive it is. - It's huge. - It's huge. It was really fun. - We went up on the gondola, too. Our family did, and did the mountain coaster, which the kids thought. It was so fun. And yeah, it was a great time. - Yeah. - It cost more than Disneyland. - OK, I thought this trip was pretty expensive, too. - I'm talking about to go on the gondola-- - Oh, yeah. When you were in the prices-- - And to go on that mountain coaster-- - Yeah. - It cost more than a day at Disneyland. - Yeah, I was like, we're probably going to skip that one. But we're going to go road tripping. - I'm glad they had fun. - Yeah, I'm glad they had fun, too. There was a lot of pressure on that. I was like, please enjoy this. - That was outrageous. - Yeah, I know. I would have loved to see it from that view, because your pictures from it looked like crazy. - It was really cool. What was so expensive, the gondola or the coaster or both? - It was really the gondola, because you ride up to this part, but the only way to do the activities is to ride the gondola. - Wow. - It wasn't-- I can't say it was worth the money, but it was really cool. We knew what we were getting into, because we did it the last time. And I was like, it's one of those things where we're like, we'll just do it. And we stayed at the house for free. Like, we ate a lot of meals at the house. - That's fun, though. - Yeah, we're like, this will be an area that we splurge, but yeah, oof. - Yeah. - More than Disneyland. - Totally. - For our whole family. - Totally. - For less than two hours. - Totally. You know what? - It's a memory. - It's a memory. - It's a memory. - It was such a great trip. - Overall, great trip, yeah. And we are here on this podcast to share the hope and the hard. So do you have-- - Yeah. - With heart and humor. - With heart and humor, which I think there will be humor in this. If you're curious why I'm wearing-- - Oh, this is your-- - Should I make it my heart? - You should. - If you're curious why I'm wearing a turtleneck, in June, in Phoenix, it's because my husband gave me a fake hickey that turned into a real hickey. - I like this story more, because it's like-- - I'm so mad. - I think it's funny and cute. - I'm so mad. We got home from our trip last night. And of course, going through the fridge, cleaning it out. - Spooky scary. - And there's a little bit of milk left, like this much in the gallon. I shook it. I smelled it. It was fine. I'm like, perfect. Just enough for someone to have a glass and me to have enough for my coffee in the morning before I replenish the milk. Going through the night, doing whatever. I go see that Caleb had chugged the milk, just out of the gallon, and finished it. And I was so mad. - Just for funsies? - Well, I think he was starving, because I didn't make dinner. So he was scouring the pantry, eating crackers and old cheese. And he was just going for anything. And I go into the bedroom, because he was going to bed. And I go, you drink the milk that I was planning to drink. So that I was a little bitter. And then I went and got the ice cream. That he loves. And I finished it in bed in front of him, because he doesn't eat desserts after 8:30. And I put the hard shell. And I was like, they have to watch me enjoy this ice cream. So then he started tickling. And he's like, I'm going to give you a hiccup. And you know what? He did. And I'm mad about it. - I'm mad about it. - That's my heart. I'm walking around like a 16-year-old. I'm like two children of a grown adult. I've got this bruise on my neck, so I'm wearing a turtleneck. - So long. So long. - We'll check in next week. - Literally, he didn't-- - He did one. - We're actually still recording Monday, so-- - Shoot, you guys. This one shirt for the next three episodes, sorry. - Is this why you didn't go to the gym this morning? - I did go to the gym at noon. - Oh, you did? - Yeah, I grinned and bared it with my whole hickey out. - You were like, I can't see any of my normal people. - No, my whole hickey was out. - My whole hickey was out. - Did you feel the need to address it? - No, I was like, just ignore it. - Who was training? - Mac. She didn't say anything. I know. - I feel like she was. - I'm not sure that she was going to. I was like, huh. - Why doesn't he eat after 8:30? - It was just his New Year's resolution. - To not eat treats? - No, he eats regular. He eats a lot of regular food after 8:30. - No treats after 8:30? - But no sweets, yeah. - That's good. - It's good for him, because sometimes-- - It's like a short-- resolution but that could have yeah he eats desserts before 8 30 but after 8 30 yeah sometimes you just get too excited you eat a lot of desserts after 8 30 so it's a good self-control test for him they are a sweet tooth family yes we are no i'm talking about our all of them matt is also a sweet tooth yeah they are fiend at night for sure yeah it's a specifically at night thing yeah so kilb's trying to kick that habit i don't get it i'm like just i i get satisfied like if i'm like oh i have one sweet treat that's great but like he will like if it's like it unlocks something he's like he can't have any because it's like he'll find everything that's actually so true one cookie is not enough i'm like i need at least have two okay but after two i'm pretty satisfied yeah so that was my heart my other heart is that i'm in my luteal phase i'm pretty sure oh what does that mean again that's before your period yeah i'm pretty sure so you're pmsing probably which is probably why i got so mad about the milk last night you were actually mad or were you play mad no i was like annoyed you yeah i wasn't right it was a silly thing to get mad about oh no i think that's totally valid i'm getting coffee out in the morning yes i did feel you know we spent a lot of money on the trip so i was like i don't want to do that so he did pick up a gallon of milk this morning and brought it to me which was oh that was so nice i know it was really sweet that's very nice yeah well he better i mean he my heart is guard me so it's better to get the pile of milk my heart is also really weird what is it my milk came out of my mouth and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm in my left armpit last night no i feel like that's kind of weird do no like it came in the boob already at like 17 weeks now it's in the armpit and it's really sore and here's the thing it's not a problem like it's not gonna get me mastitis or anything it's not gonna it's just ugly and it also hurts shoot it's just trapped in there yeah so that's really great i woke up this morning i was like no no no no no no no because when i move my arm i can feel it and it's weird you wouldn't expect that to hurt it hurts yeah it kind of stings which is weird it just feels really tender yeah it's really tender and it's also like i already had puffy pregnancy armpits and now i have like worse at the gym i was like do i need to cover this up is this indecent do i just run t-shirts every single day i know i probably should have i get more sympathy though at the gym if i don't wear a t-shirt like rob was training and he was like please modify please modify okay say less it's like because they don't know what we're capable of i don't know why i know this is wrong because i experienced milk as well but i picture it like a waterbed like just like your friend it's firm it's really firm like i know that's not true it's all colostrum in there or something i don't know what it is i don't know if that even will ever come out like it can't dissolve you can't pump it out of my armpit i don't know like if you pumped would it all just come out i don't know do you want your milk i am not gonna pump that is so crazy that would do something wrong you know i think that's not even recommended hey remember you want to labor like 38 weeks just start pumping at like 37 yeah i might do that yeah you should i might do that but then i'm also like what is that going to do to my supply oh your supply's gonna be it might just come in earlier yeah you're gonna have a lot of milk right away like i'm gonna ask i might have a doula so that's exciting i'll ask her that'd be great i'll ask her i might not though who knows i think that'd be good anyway so yeah that's my heart it's not really that serious but it is just like it's not gonna go away for maybe 10 more weeks right it's okay it's just really yucky looking the last 10 weeks are slow and long at the same time or wait slow and fast at the same time i keep saying it's such a weird amount of time like it feels like 10 weeks it actually feels long but then when you think about the span of like okay we're in june yeah then it's gonna be july and then august yeah i'm like that yeah and beginning of august it feels fast and slow you're right yeah i feel like the labor at the beginning of the month feels soon too could be the beginning could be close to the middle yeah that's true too it could be the 11th it could be anytime it's very likely that it will be the 11th wow so we'll see um my hope though is i am extremely rested i was literally a potato that all of tahoe it was great i didn't do a thing abby was working so much and i was like stop it i know i didn't want to i had to i could only have like two hours a day to work you could also say that i had to and no you were like i want to take a nap i'm like okay here are the things i need then take your nap and then she gets it done and then did you take it got them done i like cut every corner in tahoe and i just was a lazy bump on a log no i felt really good i took a nap one day and then i just laid around it was just really we went on a lot of good walks it was fun yeah it was really nice i love going on walks ate a lot of food yeah good times yeah my hope what's the date i'll save that one for next week okay i'm excited for next year well i'm just excited to get back into a routine honestly i think that feels always feels so good after a long vacation i felt like this vacation was the perfect amount of time to where it was long enough to fully rest and long enough to miss home yeah do you know what i mean and so when we came back i was just ready to get back in routine ready to hit the ground running and so i feel really excited and motivated for the rest of this week good yeah me too good i've been doing a lot of i've been listening to the um podcast that we kind of talked about last time i feel like this episode is a little bit of a continuation of our periods episode we talked so much about periods yeah so this one's gonna be more focused on birth control and that type that realm of like women's health but i finished i i still have like 40 minutes left in that diary of a ceo women's health podcast it's so interesting you thought it was interesting too yeah i did okay i did i mean you probably wouldn't like it the podcast yeah i haven't listened to it after having kids i care more about my hormone health yeah i never cared before because i think now i feel the difference yeah in my body so drastically see i don't and so i think that's where it comes in that i don't not that i don't care but i don't part you didn't feel it i mean yes and no at the same time no see that doesn't make me see i just thought like that's just what's normal so i wasn't really thinking my hormones are i don't really register my emotions even though that's probably where they're coming from i just personally don't oh like in general or just in general yeah in general even like when i was having my period and stuff like that like i didn't really it's a great excuse for things usually only my angry if i'm like feeling a bit like annoyed and angry it's usually because i'm like yeah i just don't normally feel like that unless i'm well blake also tells me which some people might think this is mean but he's like you can't use that as an excuse no i kind of agree no i agree but and postpartum i felt it in like i felt crazy mentally but in general like when i'm not pregnant or postpartum i feel in my energy levels my energy levels drastically different yeah yeah for sure like i like wake up i'm very chipper or um dragon i don't know what it was after pregnancy that unlocked i think it's just a prolonged period of feeling bad for so long i'm like i want to feel the best i can all the time now when i'm like have the opportunity to and i've almost become like an in like a little cuckoo about it yes so i feel like that's why i'm a little like oh this is very interesting well and also just like i feel like just going through pregnancy and postpartum you're more in touch with your cycle than ever before oh yeah so now i'm like okay now i know more i feel like i understand this conversation more and it feels more relevant to me personally uh-huh so yeah because i mean that's the first time like whenever we were like trying for babies that's the first time i ever really had like i ever felt like i've like oh i need to kind of learn like when are you fertile when are you not fertile right like i didn't even really know any of that stuff before we started having kids which i'm like that's not good right i don't think that's the time to figure that out but um the time is definitely when you start being sexually active and even before that like just to know what's going on in your body but so yeah it does in general i'm like more interested in the topic i think it changed a lot of the ways it changed my viewpoint a lot and how i want to talk about to about menstrual cycle which has been really fun to think through that because i think i've always heard periods or it's always usually in a negative connotation like oh my gosh i feel so cranky or grouchy or mean because i'm in my little face or bloated you know it's never associated with a positive feeling necessarily and something that my big takeaway from this was it's so healthy for our bodies as women it's like the most one of the most important factors of our body and like a huge sign of our overall general health and so when i'm like i'm like i'm like i'm like i'm like i'm like i'm talking about it's like oh my gosh i'm like i'm about to get my period this is really exciting mom's like hormones are doing really well and these are signs that i'm really healthy it's like let's be thankful that i'm healthy yeah that's what they talk a lot about in the episode they're like saying like it's just a good signal like it's even something to celebrate like when you get a period because it's like everything is working correctly and like that was yeah you're that's a really good takeaway and i felt that too because i feel like a lot of times like it was like oh i'm about to get it yeah which it's like there's that too like but i mean that was a really cool way to reframe it too and a way to think of it positively especially when you're like talking about to young kids are about to experience it you know i remember being we were all so scared so it's like what a fun way to like talk about that it's like oh my gosh it's so exciting things are going to be working well and you're healthy yeah great you know yeah so i think that was like a big takeaway for me yeah i think i've learned like as i've gotten older and like met so many people who are in different walks of like with their period and their cycle and things like that that i'm i've become a lot more grateful for my story with my cycle and being like very regular and being able to count on that to happen because a lot of people aren't that way and like have a lot of problems around it which has made me way more grateful for my period kind of like you're saying that it's very healthy that that's happening and that's good that it's happening totally so yeah it oh go ahead it made me wonder um you know they're i'm at the part where they're talking about perimenopause sorry if we're like referencing this a lot and we don't have context just know it's like in general health women's health podcast yeah we can also link it on our stories and be like if you guys want to listen to this yeah i think we linked it in the show notes yeah because oh perfect yeah okay perfect um it's a bunch of doctors yeah they're just discussing um the perimenopause i'm like does that just feel like postpartum for 10 years i'm like a little scared because the way they talk about your hormones and they're like the hot flashes and the sweats and the brain fog i'm like is it postpartum for 10 years i don't know basically i don't think my mom about it i don't think 10 years well it starts 7 to 10 years before menopause actually happens oh that's perimenopause do you have the symptoms of it because your hormones are you know you're losing your estrogen and everything's out of whack my mom just got all of her hormones tested if she wants me to take this i'll ask her okay yeah i need to ask my mom too and so now she's supplementing hormones she's really excited to start really excited about it and i think she's already feeling like it's like doing something that like changed my mom's life same i told her the same for my mom too uh-huh so she's like i'm gonna get this all figured out so in 25 years you'll know and i'm like they're walking so we can run i literally was the one urging her to that i was like mom there's a good chance that your estrogen is probably too low zero yeah well i think that's the other thing with us talking about how we want to talk to like our daughters or our kids about um periods and health and cycles it's also our parents going through menopause and how they're so afraid for it to happen in that cycle yeah that like we were like oh my god i'm gonna get this all figured out we want to change that you know too of not being so afraid of that to happen in the future like there's things that you can do yeah yeah and i also the last thing referencing this podcast for now is that i have also recognized that like the connection between for me the big takeaway was like the connection between your cycle and your bone health because that's right the i mean that's one of the major things with age is like your bones like they lose their density that's gonna happen but um that's what it's gonna slow you down like ultimately like i want to be able to live a long active lifestyle as long as i possibly can and if you have really low estrogen it like affects your bone it's terrible for your bone health yeah and so which they said that's repairable which i didn't know that yeah yeah i thought that was encouraging yes how do you get that tested your bone density how do you just blood work do they just do blood from your bones how do they test that you do like spinal tap i don't know google that i'm so curious how to find what your bone density to find bone density you need a specialized low dose x-ray called a dexa scan oh yeah i want to do that they have one in um epicenter it's quick painless and non-invasive test measures mineral contents in your hip and lower spine to diagnose um different risk factors oh okay i really want to do that dexa scan routine screening is typically recommended for 65 and older perfect so here i have a 30 getting my routine scan i a lot of young people do that yeah well i wanted to do it to test because it tests like skeletal muscle skeletal muscle mass everything i just want to make sure i'm in trending up trending oh we always laugh because every time i go to the doctor and they take my blood pressure they give me the numbers and i'm always like cool so trending like up or trending down and that's not really how blood pressure works it's not like you're not really i never know what blood pressure means they always tell me and i'm like yeah usually afterwards they tell me they're like and that's good yeah that was good i'm like good but good compared to my last time or bad compared to my last time i'm like good but good compared to my last time like you're like turning up really competitive with myself it's okay i was always like it doesn't work like that and um makes fun of me so i'm like i want to get these scans to make sure i'm trending up trending up the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of lemons not a coincidence big lemon 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days ahead actually that's really cool it's really cool that they do it the other crazy part of that is like the social media aspect of it these people are going in don't have phones or anything so when they get out they have hundreds even maybe like millions of followers yeah so it's like a lot of people are like oh my god i don't know like going from nothing is that what's motivating them probably some motivate me to go on those type of shows okay like i want love island there's like a starting group of girls and starting group of guys they couple up and um they couple up themselves depending on the time like they change it every year how they initially cup couple up this year they had they call it cupping coupling oh coupling up they couple up how they cup they couple up this year they like had doors and the girls got to stand behind the door of the guy they wanted to couple up with so they've just met this person like they have met them for like maybe an hour oh okay so they have like a little cocktail hour and then they go and they have like a challenge and the challenge this year was what was it it was one where i literally watched like this they all kissed basically there were like questions at each door and then you stood behind the door like a easier one was are you a dog person a cat person or a plant person and then they stand behind the door and then once they open the door the girls that are behind that door kiss the guys that are behind that door if there's multiple people you kiss both of them you kiss one and then you kiss the other and then there's just a lot are they just trying to see if there's like um sparks yeah but there's lots of kissing um very uncomfortable you know what's weird to me is that i am 27 i have been i have have children i'm married that i can't believe that there's other 27 year olds and younger on that show doing that literally 23 year old older than me you know like you're going and kissing random people i know i know yeah so 23 year olds they were kissing the situation and then they were coupling up and so um they're in their couples and then every other day or so new people come in like new bombshells come in oh is that right that is where that comes from so a guy will come in and there will be so there's only five girls and or there's six guys and five girls people on deck so there's a guy who will go home so that bombshell will come like recouple with a different do people just go home if they don't have someone yes most and they choose to go so there's some strategy they don't choose to go home so they couple up and if you get left without a couple you go home if you don't get picked at the end there's some strategy yeah there's strategy too but there's also it's supposed to be love how does the game end so people will get eliminated by usually well there's a couple different options they kind of rotate through either the game ends by a couple of people who get eliminated by a couple of people who get eliminated by a couple of people who won't get eliminated by a couple of people who won't get eliminated by a couple of people who won't is this in australia so this is in fiji yes but it's an american this one is love island so they don't say hot new bombshell that's the guy it's the same audio guy his name it's not an audio he does it every time basically um his name's ian something he does a lot there's like a lot of jokes like the audio is kind of he does them every week like for the episode every day for the episode he records new ones wow like that relates to the episode and he's doing love island uk which is also on right oh so his it's the same guy across all franchises not all franchises but usa and uk he does how do you get that job that's a great voice i don't know he's done it for a long time i think he was no i don't know i was gonna say he was married to someone at some point that was in the franchise i don't know that could be wrong um but the bombshells came in it already been like two days that they've been there and the girls and the guys they stood behind these doors again and they got to stand with that they couldn't see each other girls are on one side boys around the other because they both like dogs no no this is different now oh just different doors now the plain doors um you stand on the red if you want to like you're open to coupling up with someone new like that you want to meet new people and you stand on the green dot if you want to stay in your couple and you can't see if your other the guy is doing that so the girls who stepped on the red like and the guys who step on the red that wanted to mix it up the bombshells came in started kissing them and you could hear on the other side that someone's getting kissed oh and then they took them and they're off somewhere and we'll know tonight what happens whoa okay so who's more likely to switch did more girls switch or more guys two of each switched one couple they both chose to switch or to like be open yeah like this ain't gonna work yeah and then one girl and a couple and one guy in a different couple they switched they like chose they wanted to explore other connections oh ouch wow so it's so they go home no no one went home they found a bombshell someone will probably oh well there's an even amount of people now so i don't think anyone will um go home go home yet okay but wow addy that's crazy but listen love island uk i can't talk about this for too long there's the bombshells that came in for this one their episode did you watch two episodes last night yesterday yeah oh wow well the uk one comes out earlier so i can watch it why do they do that at the same time it's so annoying because it's a summer it's a it's a big commitment i'm like give me one in december or something and then you know it's not really relevant yeah unless you're watching it in real time yeah but the uk bomb shows they could come in they could eliminate anyone they wanted for any reason after 24 hours of being there but it's a talking to girls or talking to guys and they don't know that they're like that they are going to pick someone to go home so i gotta watch tonight's episode to see who they say i'd be curious i mean it's one of the most popular shows yeah in the world right now isn't it yes i would love island is very very popular i think it's hard because it is this episode first episode was so bad i was just like it was just so raunchy with all the kissing i'm like i can't watch this but i like them chatting i like them having conversations i like them getting dressed up i like the challenges they do are typically pretty fun but there are some like sexy elements to it that i don't love that's usa uk is not as raunchy really i've watched two episodes of uk and it's been nothing like usa really yeah in the way that this first episode was so really that's interesting okay okay well i actually i was creating that wow that's crazy i actually realized you have a couple real life wow that's crazy i do you don't know oh my gosh a week ago today blake got in a car wreck hit and run hit and run car wreck yeah yeah horrible that was at 1 p.m on wednesday by 10 p.m on wednesday the tow truck company had still not picked up you blake's car we were going through our insurance they got a free tow truck great awesome 10 p.m still had not picked up the car okay and we're not drivable we've been it's it's drivable but we were worried that if he drives it that insurance would be like oh you caused this damage while you drove it somewhere so we were like if the tow truck is free let's do the tow truck totally and so i'm calling the tow truck company all day trying to get a hold of them no one's answering calling usa hey they still haven't picked up our car we're not with our car imagine if we were with our car and had no place to go we'd be there at 10 p.m with no car with no place to be so at 10 p.m i get a message that it was delivered to where we're supposed to be the next two days later blake gets a call and said from the place that it's supposed to be at to be evaluated hey are you going to drop off your car what what do you mean are we going to drop off our car the tow truck company said they did they sent us pictures of it it's not here oh okay call you call our insurance try and get a hold of them got a hold of them they're trying to figure out what happened tow truck company's not answering didn't answer for two days they call we finally got a call they're trying to deliver it because it was overnight and we don't have access to their overnight lot and we're like they're like yes you did you had the code you could have gotten it's been two days it's been two days they have it in their lot the tow truck company has it in their lot they've raked we've we've raked up 455 of charges for being held at their lot absolutely um obviously we're not going to pay that um i get a message on sunday evening that my car has been delivered to where it's supposed to be they're supposed to pick it up on friday um i get a call monday that hey we're on our way to go get your car but um no one's answering to let us into the lot from the tow truck company oh my gosh are you serious um and this person that did the hit and run they're in a they were being followed by a state trooper because of reckless driving right of course but when so they had the license plate and everything but this the driver of the vehicle was not the one who was supposed to pick it up on friday um i get a call monday that hey we're on that was licensed registered with that car so there's nothing they don't know who the who the driver is oh he stole the car they could have stole a car could have been a boyfriend so the car is registered to a girl car is registered to a woman the driver was a male but they never caught the person so even though he was even once the car is delivered and evaluated then blake gets a call from the police department hey we have the insurance of the car that hit you oh perfect oh great amazing but we can't confirm that that is like we can't confirm yet that the who the person was that hit you i'm like does it why does that matter it's the car i feel like it does if it's stolen that person didn't the person in the car or the registered to the car didn't do the damage i don't know how that all works i think if it's stolen it has to be reported i stole one yeah you know what i mean like they would know right away yes so they haven't turned themselves in so then i think must be someone who oh my gosh but they have a the police have a person of interest we'll see where that goes but we have their insurance so we'll see bad luck with cars yeah he does and then um so i actually as we're here recording i got a message that um hey your car arrived at 202 p.m today perfect so after you pay like a thousand dollars this other lot who basically held your car hostage yeah for sure which tow truck companies try and do that fantastic also then my car's in the shop too because i got a check engine light on so what did you do you walk here i so blake has a brezzo car i took my mom's car so we have none of our our own cars love it that's my wow that's crazy oh addy i'm sorry that's so stressful car stuff is so stressful if we can just get the insurance from the other people that would be fantastic yeah man we'll see what happens tow companies are ruthless yeah they're ruthless in college my car got towed i parked in front of a driveway didn't know it was a driveway full curb and grass but it was someone's driveway and i'd pull up to my car and go someone stole my car started crying i'm like bawling like gail someone stole my car and we call the cops it was towed because apparently it's blocking the driveway how do you know where your car is if it gets towed well yeah you have to call the police and they tell you who took where they took it like the tow truck company tells the police if someone calls and reports it they have to report to the police because oh that's good i was wondering if that ever happened what yeah because i'm like how would you know where to pick it up where's my car yeah the police they have to report it so i called they told me where it was they tried to charge me an arm and a leg and i just remember going in this little office and this woman was so stressed like there's so much going on she had a baby in her arm she was swinging this baby around like every time she walked the doorway that baby's head almost hit the door and i was like so frazzled watching this scene and people were coming in and out and they're yelling at each other and good thing kail was with me because i was like they said on the phone it's gonna be two hundred dollars she goes it's gonna be five hundred and fifty dollars something crazy and i was like excuse me they said it was gonna be two hundred dollars like holding back tears panicked and kail was like she's not paying that so thankfully he like was a voice because i was so panicked but yeah they're ruthless i feel like usually they wouldn't let you really no we had like he had to fight him a little bit yeah but they really like they try to jack up that price i'm like it's our insurance they're not gonna let this go they're not gonna pay that they're gonna definitely fight you on this like it's not a person it's our insurance they're not gonna like also why is our insurance using this tow company better never use again yeah couldn't get a hold of anyone totally it was sweet our appraiser he he had to patch me into them so we could have a call together and he goes thank you for everything you done i really appreciate it and then he gets off the phone with him he goes took everything in me to say i appreciate that that's funny he's so sweet he's the best he's like i've really never but you had to use geolocating features of the photographs of the our car to find out where it was to find out it was at the truck company you're kidding he's like we've never i didn't even know we could do that but apparently we can okay well also you're like well wait a minute you can track me at any time we'll talk about that later photo the photo or something yeah it must have been oh yeah so that yeah they had a they looked at that later i'm like the tow truck company want to answer so they had to literally look up this photo oh my gosh yeah it's at the lot now we're good it's getting checked out two to three days we hope it's there we do he said it is but we'll see we'll see we um when we were working at pizza restaurant in college the there was a high schooler that worked with us and this she was always unfortunately finding guys to go on dates with that we were like oh man shoot and he took her this guy took her on a date and he got his car towed with her stuff inside of it while they were on the date and she called me which i felt very honored because oh yeah and she was like i literally can't get in my house i can't it was like all of her stuff was in this car and i was like well i'll go with you to the tow truck company and i will explain why we need to get in the vehicle right i'm not towing this schmucks car getting parked in a terrible spot of course i didn't know that they will not let you get anything out of your car really yeah they won't let you get anything out of your car they hold everything hostage yeah and so i'm like looking at this guy i'm like what are your plans for getting your car out of here like i'm like talking this random guy that's probably in high school i was like what are your how are you gonna get your car out of here and he's like i don't know and she's like my parents are gonna kill me like she's all worried i'm like oh how much does it cost to get this car out 275 at this lot and i was like all right you two cough it up like look at the guy and then no one had that and i was like well freaking heck i had like that is like literally what we made in like two weeks so you paid for it yes oh and i was really stressed about it i had like no yeah that's generous we're gonna have to find a way you to pay me back make way make way you give me all your tips no one can do it that's what i learned i mean what do they say like if you ever lend money don't lend money that you don't expect to give it yeah never lend money just give it yeah well i was like i told this guy i was like yeah i would love to get that back because i was like i'm not being generous with you sir who are you and so but he's like yeah and i'm like okay okay i'm never gonna see you again in my life he avoids fellacy i gave information so if it ever comes back to me i will know yes from that random perfect guy you get a random guy so yeah just you know you can't get anything out of your car at a tow lot that's good to know if there's anything in it crazy facts remember josh got all this stuff stolen from his car that was in a tow lot no man stolen from stolen from the car in the lot i mean that'd be a great place to hit if you're a thief because your owners cannot get to it they can't get to it and no one cares and yeah they literally don't care no one knows who's in charge no one knows who's in charge there long detour there but that's a birth control yeah no before we go to birth control one last detour you guys see my hair it looks great thanks it's called a partless look back i actually is this a thing i noticed it actually kylie jenner's brother kylie jenner's partless look back everyone is like laughing online because that she got coined wearing a partless look back to a basketball game with timothy chalamet and then people are like don't you just mean a ponytail that's funny i never heard about this it just happened over the weekend is it it's happening online thing now yes and everyone's like only kylie jenner could give a ponytail a chic new name i'm not kidding i was looking at you i'm like she did it i did it and i like it i might have a headache later but why would the part make it any less headachy no i yeah i'm not sure it would oh how to achieve this look when you look it up on google how to achieve the partless look back prep the hair brush your hair thoroughly get really sweaty apply products i'm a super low adopter to all these trends like it took me a long time to adopt the middle part then it took me a long time to adopt a slick back and even then i can't do a super slick back like you look good with a slick back i love it i just am a really late adopter and i just have to just stop rejecting it i just have to know that i'm gonna get there but i'll be like six months late yeah perfect sounds good i'll see you in six months probably back okay now we can move on um i actually really liked this desk the emma pulled do you want to read them maddie yeah okay so we were talking about birth control yes love the combo we went it's kind of taboo to talk about but i'm like it shouldn't be like yeah i mean it's like a personal thing for sure it's personal yeah but also we're a ladies podcast and that's what we talk about is personal things yeah i don't know why i'm not i'm not i don't find it personal for me like sharing my own experience with yeah i'm not going to talk about to my my male neighbors but like i'll talk about oh yeah i feel really safe here you you our producer went through and found us some stats on how they did birth control in the past so the ancient methods were early recorded methods in ancient egypt and greece utilized barrier in spermicidal how the heck did they figure that out pessarize made with honey um um pesticides so basically y'all they are getting pregnant p-e-s-s a-r-i-e-s pessarides pessarides pessarides in lint they still have that to block out sperm so it was just like a barrier like a like a condom or a female condom with honey leaves lint and to block the sperm gosh dang that sounds just sticky honestly why in my brain did i just like think they just they either just had sex or they pulled out like that was probably yeah i don't think i to me in my home like they probably didn't think about it no they're like how are we getting pregnant i have no clue sometimes i think people in the past i'm like oh they didn't know they were pregnant i'm like oh they didn't know they didn't have brains like me but like that's just such a stupid thing um in the 16th century early condoms they used a linen barrier devices um they were pioneered by a catholic priest that's interesting that's actually really wow talking well early reusable sheaths made of animal intestines were famously popularized so basically took the casings that you eat on a bratwurst yeah yeah got it perfect yucky honestly smart all right keep going um the modern pill which is 1950s to 1960s um it was developed by biologists and doesn't matter who it's funded by the first oral oral contraceptive was approved by the fda in may of 1960s it seems really like early like you thought it's been around newer yeah yeah i think so wow for the pill and then currently 1960s to 1990s uh flexible plastic and copper devices the iuds were introduced for widespread use in the 1960s followed by hormonal implants approved in the 1980s and 1990s hormonal implants would that be like the the bar the bar which is a lot of people said that one it starts with an n that's actually in nexplo nexplo yeah that's actually interesting i only knew one person in high school that you had the bar i remember she would like always play with it yes i'd be like i wonder why what um the benefits of that one are to other that's the research i should have done before this episode to be honest like the differences between the different implants well the implant versus the pill like is it a hormonal difference mostly is it just the fact that it's like an implant so you don't have to worry about taking something every day kind of like the iud is it is that the main benefit was the main benefit then of just not having to remember to take something yeah yeah okay it's foolproof that's interesting it probably has a higher rate of uh like what do they call those like a prevention on prevention no to prevent no of prevention uh-huh like i think the highest is like the most successful yeah iud okay and i think that's like considered a form of iud right oh is it except not an iud no it's not because it's not in your uterine yeah yeah but an implant wearable type of thing okay next one implant lasts up to three years highly effective um over 99 percent yeah um set it and forget about it fertility returns quickly after removal that's what that one says and then the hormonal iud lasts three to eight years depending on the brand dramatically lighter or no periods highly effective and reversible interesting so we pulled you guys for those of you that wanted to participate on what form of birth control you used and i feel like these um this kind of surprised me first of all we asked do you use birth control and 73 percent of you said no i was surprised too but then i did think i think most of the women in our audience are what 18 to 34 or like 25 to 34 though really young now yes but i feel like we have a lot of women that are probably in the family planning season of their life oh yeah yeah like our audience like we're moms we talk about motherhood i would assume a lot of people want to be moms or currently moms or planning to be moms i also thought there might be a group of our audience that are like christian women's that are not sexually active yes also true too there's a lot of people that are not sexually active that do use birth control though that's why i was like yeah surprised surprised by that i wonder if the conversation is switched though around like the use of birth control and as for health symptom stuff instead of just like it definitely is switching it's been changing a lot so yeah i am surprised with that number two doing over the stats yeah what form of birth control did you use 19 said pill 12 said iud 18 said condoms 21 said natural family planning or other a lot of the others are either the nexa what was that nexa pro nexa nexa plan the arm the nexa one the arm implant the arm implant and then um a lot of pull and pray pull and pray been there it's a great method next planning is that what it is next next next plan on thank you so sorry oh my god next planning hey i don't know so midwestern okay i will say okay i'm looking at our audience insights on instagram and we have 53 percent of our audience is 25 to 34 okay so that makes sense to me why like natural family planning would be the biggest and maybe not because that is like prime family planning years where you're kind of like in between yeah like pregnancies yeah just like not necessarily yeah you're coming off the pill you're trying to like regulate your cycle learn your body more so you don't need the most effective form exactly like when you first get married or yeah the other people who are saying they don't use birth control is because their husbands have a vasectomy ah our ladies that have beat us there our ladies that have beat us there oh i love that so that's interesting and um we also did ask another question because there's so many caveats he said he got fixed he got fixed oh yeah we'll be there we'll be there um we also ask because here's the thing even in my own life there's been so many different things i've used for birth control but like you know i've been using birth control for a long time and i've been using birth control for a long time and i've been using birth control for a long time and i've been using birth control for a long time it all kind of just depends on like what like what the why for that specific time in your life so we asked why you were initially put on birth control uh 47 percent of you said pregnancy prevention which i feel like that's what i would have expected for that eight percent said health reasons 12 said acne and 33 said to manage period symptoms and i'm guessing for health reasons is that probably related to like uh pcos endometriosis that's exactly what i was thinking yeah because if you're from acne then yeah i would assume yeah so that's all very interesting and all these things really influence what method you choose or whether or not you don't use you know anything like that and so i think it's just a broader conversation that we've talked about like it's just becoming more relevant in our lives as we like are entering our family planning stage or like even when i first was like engaged and like thinking about like all i'm like how do i even enter this whole realm because it's so much more than just like what's going on in my life i don't know i don't know how to do it i don't know how to do it i don't know i don't know how to do it i don't know how to do it you know i don't know how to do it i don't know how to do it i don't know how to do it i don't know how to do it i never even felt like i could ask to be on birth control i didn't have a reason to be on birth i was not sexually active and i also didn't i've always had very manageable periods but i always was like well hopefully i have friends in my life whenever i'm like engaged and married that could help me and they did i was educated by my friends and so that's let us just kind of we can talk about our own personal experiences yeah and then also it could enlighten or like maybe just be like oh i find myself in the same stage of life as you right now this might be what is good for us too so totally yeah i um actually went on birth control i think i was 17 17 or 18 i was a senior in high school i was not sexually active at the time but kind of plan to be in the future i'm hoping that's over um shared my testimony in the past so this was like pre that and um yeah so that was like a motivation for me in internally but when i was talking to my mom about it that obviously was not shared so i i did have pretty bad cramps and i had really irregular periods and that was an issue that i felt like i had and so it was kind of like oh i get two birds one stone um and so that was when i went to the doctor and talked about it at 17 which i look back on that now because i was on the pill from 17 to right before caleb and i got married at 23 i switched to the nuva ring and i think i not that my doctor didn't like tell me anything about the pill but i also like didn't really know anything about it like i still don't since i've never done the pill yeah i listening to that podcast i actually felt like better about it because i appreciate that my body had that seven day break each month but is there an option where you don't take like you could skip the sugar pills and just skip your period altogether yes you could but i never did that so that is recommended is to take sugar pills for seven days so you never forget to take the pill right but then you still get your period because you're not taking the pill exactly yep it's like if you have a high enough dosage you you don't get your period like when i got on one birth control pill i didn't get i got my period and on a different one i didn't so also just even with the sugar pill yeah really i always did they were definitely lighter and like very manageable when i was on birth control um which i felt like before they were heavy like i would use super plus tampons when i was 17 and actually when i got off of birth control before having kids i felt like my periods were very manageable and i was like i'm gonna take the pill and i'm gonna take the pill and i'm gonna light even after years being off of it so i think it's just being young and like my body not being regulated on its own necessarily and my lifestyle probably really jacked up my my you know i was extremely reckless as a 17 year old in the way that i ate slept in like lived my life basically um so there were probably those factors too that affected it but yeah i um was on that for about seven years before going off of it wow so you're on the pill for seven years 17 to 23 how many years is that almost seven six years and then i was on uh the nuva ring from 23 to 26 and that was i after listening to the podcast i was like i feel like that's a really good option i yeah i actually thought the new room was really easy it's basically like it looks like a ponytail holder and you just pinch it and it slides up in there it's really comfortable you don't feel it and then you wear it for three weeks so it's not something that you have to like take every day or remember all the time but you just kind of mark when it comes out you take it out and you have your period every month and your body gets a break from the hormones so i really enjoyed that i felt good on it it felt fine um but when i came off birth control i did notice a big difference in how i felt like i think i went on it so young i never actually knew what my normal was um so that's kind of my experience i feel like yeah so far the nuva ring do you know what hormones are in that because i'm learning that there's like estrogen and progesterone like some of them have both i think from what i heard i'm learning it's better than to probably have both i think i was always on a both hormone like my pill was both i do remember that and i think my nuva ring was also both okay um yes it's estrogen and estradiol estradiol i think so those two are what's in a um oh so it doesn't have oh so it doesn't have progesterone well estro is that what you want gestrial is a progestion is a pro progest oh it's like a estrogen yeah okay so a progesterone and then a synthetic estrogen so yes so it had both the common word the words they use are not those words this is not a science a progesterone we have the educational resource yes this is the chatty conversation we could be wrong so just ask me doctors so that no i do think that's what they said on the podcast they referred to that being like a good option yeah because it has both and then you also get the break each month i also like the idea that you don't have to take it at the same time every day because yeah that was a lot which i did that for seven years i mean i said an alarm on my phone and i would have to change it based off my life stage but you can't change it in the middle of the month so you have to change it at the beginning of your new pack if you want to change your time that you take it so you would have once you picked your time that month of when you're going to take you had to stick to that time for the whole month you had an hour before and an hour after that you could take it wow so that's tricky so i would set alarms like if you travel and stuff and you're like trying to figure out time zones yeah i mean i was in high school so i relatively had the same schedule yeah and then college it got a little trickier but i could kind of i could kind of understand what my schedule was going to be um so i actually feel like during school it wasn't the hardest to keep track of but yeah once i graduated it was a lot harder to keep track of my schedule my time that what i see i feel like i know myself and when i was i don't think i could do that it's hard for me i even remember to take prenatals yeah honestly and that's something that will eat you up that i i'm like i'm damaging my baby the gill and it's like okay you're fine if you miss a couple no and i and i really haven't but i remember that being like really hard for me like i got really in this i've been on prenatals for a year now over a year um so but yeah i'm like that probably wouldn't have been a good method for me early on when it was like really important for me to like prevent pregnancy isn't there an option that's a patch yes um the patch is a weekly application versus a daily pill similar benefits to the combined pill i've never known anyone that's done the patch i did i knew someone that did the patch where they put it on your butt oh that makes sense it's probably similar to 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week oh okay oh yeah i guess it's a good thing it's a good thing it's a good thing it's a good thing I guess you have to shower, so water should infect him. week feels better than every day but once every three weeks also good options yeah i'm just i'm just excited now to learn about other options because i feel like with me like i i'm not saying i wasn't like i could have done a lot more research but i just was like they're like oh there's a pill that you have to take every day or you could just do this one thing and then you don't have to think about it and so when i a month before i got married and we waited like to be sexually active until we got married i was like okay it's time to choose an option and i was i felt like i was like you could either do something every day or you could just do it one time i was like one time check it off the list let's do it one time and so that's when i got the kylena which is the iud they they generally recommend before you have children and i remember that there was like all kinds of youtube videos of like iud horror story oh and it was like they were actually really scary yeah they're super that's why i never got the id but then also like my mentality i don't know this is just more of my personality i'm like that's not gonna happen to me it's all gonna be fine and i really wasn't worried about it and that could have been really naive because i could have had a terrible experience but i actually had a really good experience like i literally went in and they actually recommended that i had like a driver for that like they recommended like someone else take you and i remember that my friend was supposed to go through it plans fell through and i was certainly not going to go through it but i was not going to ask my mom and so i just took myself and then my mom found out and she was like abby like i would have come with you i was like i actually didn't really need anybody it was totally fine like they so i like went in and then they just like shoot it up there wow and it's not comfortable yeah like goes through your cervix oh like it pierces it almost like an ear piercing or what yeah or just clip it it goes through and then it's a t so it stops oh so there's like tiny little wire still like in but it's pretty high up there yeah so um you can't feel it really like i think they say you can check the strings yeah so they have strings that come down so they can take it out um but they usually try and cut them pretty short so you don't feel them but if they leave them long enough you can feel them or your partner could feel them yeah they told me to check them and i was like well sometimes so like after a certain point they can feel a little sensitive but they'll like get wrapped in mucus and like stuff like that at a certain point but if they're bothering you they can sometimes tuck them up into your cervix it never it never was anything i felt i never felt anything like that yeah um but the kylena one is a little smaller i think it also has both is that why they recommend it before you have a kid because things are like tightened it lasts five years nice and pretty complete up there things are still intact and then they're damaged a little looser that's essentially what happens i've been through some things seen some stuff it's been through a couple rodeos exactly what happened because okay yeah so had that one and it was extremely effective i didn't have yeah i didn't have a period which now in hindsight i'm like you didn't love that should have been at the time i was like this is incredible um i just it was more just for convenience sake like i didn't have to think about it of course um in hindsight i'm like maybe that was probably too high of a dose for my body because it was probably preventing ovulation so there's yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know how in the weeds you want to go but with iuds like they're not they aren't marketed to prevent pregnancy by stopping ovulation it's by thickening your cervical mucus but since i didn't get a period sometimes that is also an indicator that was also the dosage can be high enough that it's like stopping ovulation altogether gotcha so i think that's really what was happening i probably wasn't ovulating for that amount of time did you know is that bad um just based off listening to that podcast it's not ideal but i don't think i ovulated i didn't ovulate but i still had periods like even with the pill because it stops ovulation but i had a period every month yeah it's almost just like your uterine lining is shutting i guess but there's no egg i probably was not ovulating and not having a period okay gotcha like i was probably not having either one i remember someone told me that one time like oh yeah it's a fake period and i was like what does that even mean i didn't understand it probably just means you didn't drop i didn't drop an egg yeah but i still bled yeah for seven days which is crazy that is crazy yeah yeah i had like getting it in wasn't a big deal it was uncomfortable yeah but it was quick and i felt regular i felt like a little crampy that day i think but then nothing serious and then i in it i had a good experience some people have really bad experience their body kind of rejects it and anything but so then i had no period for two years over two years and then whenever we were ready to start trying for a kid i got it taken out and that was really easy like it's literally just like oh that's good yeah was it's like you feel it but it's not for me it wasn't anything painful yeah and then i got my period literally 28 days later like on the day which i do think is unusual and i also want to preface this conversation by saying like i have learned more through having conversations with other people and from like listening to other women share their stories on podcasts is that my situation being so normal is actually not normal like being able to get pregnant so quickly well and also just like my cycle returning really quickly and like having like relatively no side effects on them like i'm sure i i'm sure that i did feel like oh like probably less drive i probably felt like less energy but it was nothing noticeable at the time sure and so i and i think it's also just hard to say like i'm like did i who knows i felt like no symptoms but the fact that i felt no symptoms and also my my cycle returned really quickly like that's not the typical story right they normally recommend six months right to go off birth control before you want to conceive like they say give yourself at least six months for your body to like re-regulate itself and i think i did figure for that but we did we conceived like that month yeah yeah that yeah and so um that was an unusual experience but i had a good experience with that with that was a long way of saying like i had the kylena iud for until we had our first yeah and then the kylena is hormonal correct um yeah yeah okay it's the copper one that's not hormonal yes okay and so i then we had our first and then we're like we're just gonna do condoms and we didn't use a condom one time and then we had our second child so i learned my lesson about myself oh see that's interesting no i think that will yeah we're not reliable see we're strict about it but everyone got their own thing we weren't home so so and we packed them we packed and we did so you didn't think you were ovulating we were really i hadn't i didn't get my period so i didn't think that i was ovulating but you can't ovulate without your period so we were just kind of being careless until i got my period uh that time no perfect this is um old advice used to be wait until three months after getting off birth control um but it's largely outdated and research hasn't shown any benefit for waiting for safety reasons the main reason is to give yourself a cycle or two and simply to know your body oh so say three months before that's old that's old she said six yeah this is it's mostly just so you can understand your body a little bit yeah i know your cycle i don't think this lady was saying that it would be like harmful to your body or anything like that i think she was just saying like normally it would take six months for your body to regulate itself which would make it easier than to get pregnant depending on what probably birth control what which one were you was she talking about hormonal hormonal hormonal yeah this says um like the pill patch or nuva ring combined hormonals um it's typically one to three months before people ovulate again i don't know if that's true i don't know if that's true i don't know um i went off the nuva ring when i turned 26 because um i had to pay for my own insurance and i was like well i'm just not gonna go to the doctor i think so stupid um so i was like well i'm just i'll just call it a day and we had kind of like been talking at that point like hey we're not ready but wait can i tell you something i've never told you before yeah i saw on your okay so the night that we got locked out of our house yeah after getting home from some trip we were on a trip all together when you got locked out of your house okay we stayed the night at your house uh-huh we're in your guest bedroom yeah on that white board it said have a baby did it really yeah so then when you were like it was unplanned i was like wait a minute i saw it on your vision board not my vision board it said have a baby oh my gosh that's funny i mean we had talked about it because i had just i turned 26 in may and yeah i was like hey if we get pregnant like cool but let's not try kind of vibes but we'll pull the goalie and i was just kind of like a smooth transition like lost my insurance i wasn't gonna worry about a doctor and then it was like cool i'll just go off birth control and so we just did like pull out in condoms um yeah you know it just takes one time so it just takes one time of your responsibility but obviously it was like the best timing for us and i was oh i feel like sometimes i'm the personality type where i was grateful that my hand was forced a little bit because i am just not like a planner and so having that decision made for me was perfect from from the lord so that was really good um but what was i saying what was my point about that and 26 you went okay so that was may i got pregnant in october so how many months is that june july august september october five months which we only you know we used other protection during that time but yeah got pregnant pretty quickly after that so you can get pregnant if you don't have a period that's good to know everyone did you feel differences well i guess okay when you went off of your iud the second time did you notice a difference in how you felt should we talk about your second yeah so then i had my second i was pregnant with my second and then after that we were like we need the most highly effective contraception you're very fertile and so we got back on the iud but this time i needed the big mama one i had the morena oh my god um and it's so funny we're such a good petite girl you're like give me the big mama iud this one lasts eight years versus five it's so crazy um and so we i got that one i literally got that i'm pretty sure i asked for it at my six-week appointment and they were like you need to wait two more weeks why i don't know oh i guess because things were i think my cervix was probably been through a lot i think it was closed but i think they were like let's give it a minute oh and you had a c-section too so yeah but i think i did still uh dilate probably a little bit early on you got it right before we went to malibu did you get it okay maybe i was six weeks yeah because i was like i feel like you got it that day that we left or the day before i got it because you were like i need to get this before we leave i'm not going anywhere without this how do you remember that i didn't remember that i knew you had a doctor's appointment that day tmi wow sorry but i feel like i asked for it at that appointment they said no oh maybe i think i did i don't think most doctors want to do it right at six weeks but i do think i got it like at eight weeks and i think i tried and they're like girl girl slow down let it heal slow down and so um they i got it at eight weeks and it was very effective and i did not get i didn't have a cycle ever since and since i was only six weeks postpartum never got your period i never got it for like a really long time yeah getting off of that i had relatively the same experience as the last time yeah i got my cycle back like literally probably a month later that's great and um yeah but then we just did uh condoms again so yeah that because then we were like okay at this point we're not we're we're gonna like let it's not gonna we're not in the red zone we don't have a baby yeah like we're gonna be it's okay and so then we just used tracked my cycle and used condoms yeah did you um how was tracking your cycle i've never tracked ovulation or my cycle ever really yeah i didn't track ovulation oh it predicts when you ovulate based on when you get your cycle oh okay so you use an app yeah i used an app ever since i was in high school i have the same app that i use ever since i got my first period that's probably awesome i have a lot of data i have data you just tap it when you start your period yeah and you you can mark you can mark a lot of things like you can mark like your symptoms you can mark like your flow and i never really got super detailed about it but i want to know when i had started i mean i have a list on my phone of all my dates like all of all my periods but i don't track just in your notes app uh yeah that's a lot of bullet points there there's so many resources listen i know but just for some reason they gave an app just feels overwhelming it's so easy and then you can share it with your like matt has it too and so he could like know like if it's a blue day then we for sure need he's already prepared oh because the ovulation factor of it yes perfect or if it's like we're trying then it's like that's cool it's happening i'm usually like yeah i'm probably ovulating right now so i'll just you know be aware that's what i yeah that's what it that's what it is because it's not accurate they don't know yeah app doesn't know i never did like the natural cycles is that what you did i did natural cycles and i had an aura ring and tracked my i wanted to do natural cycles after my first but it doesn't work until you get your period back you're it's it's not effective in like it can't you have to have your cycle yeah so unfortunately i didn't get to use it yeah well unfortunately because gosh i'm glad we have augie but of course um that was going to be the plan yeah once that came back so really i've only used iuds and condoms uh-huh we've all done different things yeah i got an i had a i was when I was in high school to manage period symptoms, cramps, and I want to say very loose, kindly, like I have no, I feel no reason against my mom or like the doctors for giving me on the pill. I wish potentially now, or what I might do in the future is like, what are you eating? Are you hydrated? Like, let's try these other things. Like, are there supplements you could be taking that could be helping in these areas before we jumped to throwing you on birth control? Yeah. I think that's could have been an option before jumping into birth control, but I was on the pill for my sophomore year of high school until my sophomore year of college. And then I was just like, why am I on this? I don't, I'm going to try and get off of it. And my doctor was like, sure. Went off of it. I got my period back. I felt fine. I didn't have my period at all during that time either. Um, so then I was off of it. Um, um, for, I guess, sophomore year until the beginning of my sophomore year, until the end of my junior year, I got an IUD. I remember texting you or talking to you about it and being like, is it going to hurt? Like, what do you think? And you're like, it doesn't hurt that bad. And it didn't hurt that bad for me either. I know people say it's really painful. Maybe it depends on your anatomy. Yeah. I always said it felt like the three worst cramps back to back. And then it was over. Oh yeah. I'm sure. It's really far up there. Well, I think the worst part is they clamp your cervix. Once they like clamp, you're like, it like, they're like, it's like the worst cramp of your life. I mean, it probably feels like a membrane sweep. Does it not? Not like that. Well, they also stick a really long ruler up there. Sheesh. I feel like a membrane sweep is kind of like kind of similar pain level a little bit, but I feel like a little worse. The sensation is different. Yeah. But, um, I was on an IUD from 20 or like May, of 2022 till May of 2024. So two years. And then I got it out and then we did, uh, natural cycles and I had an aura ring and I tracked very rigorously my cycle when I was ovulating when I wasn't. And so we did condoms and abstaining like during ovulation. And then we decided to get pregnant. And so that happened right away for us. The first, the first try, once we stopped and we got pregnant in December, so May to December of 2024. So I was only off of it for six months, seven months, and then got pregnant. Did you guys notice a big difference when you went off of it? No, I never did. Either time. I didn't notice until my second time that I had used an IUD. I felt like, Oh wow. I have a lot more energy. I noticed it in my energy. That's why I always say, like, I was like, Oh, I felt like I first noticed it at the gym. Cause I was like, Oh wow, I can do this for longer. And I can, like, I just felt more. And I think it's, I don't know. I, I've said like having kids and going, learning more about this. It's like, it's kind of been like, Oh, I can pinpoint now why I feel this way. Whereas before I was probably feeling it, but I couldn't identify the why. And now I was, then I was like able to for that. Period of time before we got pregnant, where I was like, Oh wow. And now I'm like, I never want to be in that state again. Exactly. That's how I feel too. After I went off of it. Well, you know, I actually forgot that I went on the pill for one month after I had CJ and I had that pulmonary embolism scare. Do you remember that? I thought I had a blood clot in my lung. And so I went to the ER for shortness of breath. And basically it was a whole thing. I didn't, I either was healed or I didn't have one. We don't know. I'm going to go with heels, but they did all the scans that I had the next day, did scans again, and it was gone. So that was really scary. And I was like, I'm done. Like, I'm not going to put this medicine in my body anymore. That's like potentially going to cause blood. I just like, to me, the risks, I was like, I'd rather have a baby than like potentially be on this medicine that could cause some side effects I didn't want. So to me, I feel like that changed my opinion a lot on things. Um, and I felt so drastically better off of the pill. Like my energy level was so just amazing. And my sex drive was like, way higher too. And so those were the two biggest things that I felt like the, wow, I feel so good. I'd never want to go back on that and feel so sluggish again. It was noticeable for me. Yeah. Especially being that close postpartum like where you're like, okay, I don't need anything else making me tired. No, literally. And, um, yeah. And I, so yeah, I also do think that that would have helped my like postpartum experience after our second, not having jumped to a horror, like once again, more hormones, like it's like my hormones had not regulated after six weeks. Right. No, we were not there yet. Well, does it help your hormones? Cause you're getting the synthetic version or is it not? I feel like you're not able to regulate them on your own. Like you're masking everything. Yeah. It's like, okay. It's like a bandaid over the problem. Probably. Yeah. It definitely didn't make me feel better. Sure. And so, um, but like one of the, it's also that time is such a, you know, a foggy, time anyway, where I was like, who knows what it would have felt like. You can't compare, but, um, I definitely remember feeling after my second time having that idea. I was like, okay, now I feel like totally like different. And also I was like, I once I felt also like really comfortable at that stage of my life getting a cycle too I was like it just felt like a good indicator of like my hormonal health my fertility like it felt good having that again yeah especially since mine weren't unmanageable and I was like I don't want to lose that anymore I don't want to artificially make that go away yeah more totally and also like learning more about it I was like okay I want to keep this happening in my like life and so I'm curious for you guys so after eight weeks you got on an IUD after six weeks you started on the pill yeah uh did you feel pressure from your doctor to get on a birth control they did kind of like they were like okay what are you thinking about any birth control methods and I was like I don't know and they're like well we really recommend it like we don't want you to get pregnant for at least 18 months and that's like the best way to ensure it so they definitely like strongly recommended it and I was like on the fence about it and I was like well if I don't like it I can always stop you know and so I did like based off their recommendation get on it but I didn't think it was I mean I had told her I didn't want to get pregnant so I didn't feel like it was a pressure of like I think she really just thought it was my in my best interest yeah because you had a c-section I had a c-section and I had a like a like a lot of complications too so she was like I think it would be really like recommended that you go on something so yeah yeah my doctor was like what's your method like she was like asking about that and I was like you know gonna do something like natural the first time and then the second time I was like yeah give me the strongest thing you got I do think when I said like we're just gonna do condoms I think she was like like that she's kind of like it's a little just you know they're only like 98 percent effective or something you know she kind of gave me like a you know you have to use them that's exactly what that's exactly what my doctor said yeah yeah and I was like okay well I felt pressured I felt pressured to get on my control I felt pretty pressured and I didn't want to be on birth control I said we're just gonna use condoms and track my cycle and he was like um he said condoms aren't super effective like they they can have problems too I'm like we're pretty rigorous like we yeah I I mean it was only like seven months that we tracked and we didn't get pregnant but I'm like I'm type a like I can make sure this doesn't happen I also think Trojan would probably fight him on that they said 99.9 effective you just have to use them you have to use them we will you gotta put them on yeah yeah that's interesting now that you say that the first time I was when I was like casual about it they were like I do wonder if like you had complications you had a c-section with your first yeah and so I wonder if that conversation changes a little bit like I had a natural labor not is that right not natural vaginal delivery yeah that time and she was pregnant okay because I was like I felt like he was pressured me but I probably probably would have been more if I had a c-section yeah should wait I mean I'm sure they see so many I always give the doctors a benefit of the doubt I'm like they see everything under the sun so I'm like in their head they're probably like yeah they're gonna say they're gonna use condoms but I'll see them here in six weeks you know what I mean like when they my doctor when I went in for my six week checkup and he's like didn't heal properly I need to cauterize this like he did some stuff he's like wait another two weeks and then come back in like sorry yeah no activity I'm like can I work out though he's like yes I'm like that's all I care about I come back and he's like so did it hurt like did I'm like did what hurt he's like I'm like I didn't do I didn't I followed the rules I followed the rules he's like wow most people don't I'm like I would never go properly yeah what do you mean I want to go against my top disorder it was so funny when he was like he was taking it back oh my god listen to his rules and I didn't have sex for two yeah see that's like I don't want to I was always like they probably give so much advice that people don't take that I just yeah I get it I do feel sometimes like I feel like I viewed birth control so differently now in this season of my life than I do then um like I'm all for family planning and like using birth control condoms all these things when you are like you know actively with your husband and your spouse like trying not to you're trying to prevent pregnancy when you guys are not ready or prepared I do think I look back and I'm like dang going on it so young at 17 now I did have the factor of like wanting to be sexually active so that was you know that was a different thing but like for managing period symptoms like dang if only I had gone back and I looked at lifestyle and giving myself time and just like been educated maybe on my cycle more so than just like slapping a band-aid on something and never actually learning because now I'm 30 and I'm learning all these things that I wish I would have known at 15 when I went through puberty and like I know my mom didn't know these you know we were just never educated on like how our bodies worked and so sometimes I get like frustrated when I hear from my friends or different peers or hear these things on the phone and I'm like I don't know what to do with this podcast and I'm like dang like they're just so quick to throw us on the pill sometimes at like such a young age and I feel like that really was our generation like I knew it was crazy to me when I met people for the first time that were not on birth control I was like what do you mean you're not on birth control like you didn't go on it for your acne you didn't go on it for your cramps 33 went on to manage their period symptoms yeah that's their first initial reason right so I think to me sometimes I'm like dang that's like I don't know just maybe I'm just becoming crunchier as I'm getting older I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know being married and also in our years where we like wanted to have babies yeah it makes that necessity for preventing pregnancy like that's like lower you know so like even though we had a quote-unquote unplanned we did we but you know what I mean yeah we were still but we knew we wanted more children yeah and like we were also married and like we'd already had babies yeah it and then we weren't okay with that risk we did a different option right and so it's just like you always have to just reevaluate your lifestyle like or your life stage like that you're in and that also just like led me to think like okay well what does this look like once we feel like our family's complete but I'm still having my cycle right and so we've already like started having those conversations just because we're not done having kids but like it's part we're I mean this will be our third baby like we'll we're starting to like prepare for that stage and so yeah those like look differently than I might have thought they would have looked before starting all of our family planning journey yeah for sure totally I agree it is yeah it is just I think too like being in this season of life I do have friends that like struggle with infertility or struggle with PCOS and I mean like just some of these things that I'm like this is where I get the mixed feelings about the pill because I'm like or like birth control I'm like it's obviously it's done so many it's so good for so many reasons but then they're obviously like these hard parts of it where I'm like me and I had friends that probably went on birth control at 17 because their head cramps and then 10 years later they want to start their family and they go off the pill and then they can't get pregnant and they realize like I have what I have PCOS that went undiagnosed for 10 years and now my ovaries are like so inflamed and it's you know it's just like these different things and I'm like I just I'm not more so mad at like the medicine as much as I am maybe just that like that women aren't educated on these things totally and I think that's also something that I've really enjoyed listening in this podcast to reference back to that but I'm glad that the conversations are shifting a little bit more away from that and like hey let's I don't know the conversation around women's health is so tricky and there's so many holes in it I just it's frustrating it just got so one size fits all we all were like searching for an answer that was so incredibly nuanced to our own body yes and then it's like okay well and I know that that's what they have to do right in medicine but I do wish that there was more resources and I think that's what we have to do right now and I think that's what we have to do right now when we were like younger yeah like oh wait maybe try this first or try this first right because like for boys they weren't putting them on some type of hormonal pill because no acne no like let's give you all the topicals like your girl we know what we know what to do yeah you're a girl birth control baby yeah and so it was like maybe that wasn't the cause and so yeah I also just wish that men knew more about I'm like I can't blame them I didn't know what was going on in my own body I didn't know what was going on in my own body I didn't know what was going on in my own body I knew nothing but it should be more of a universal conversation because um family planning takes two yeah it's a tango yeah make a baby and so I think it would also just do everyone a lot of do everyone a lot of good yeah totally and I'm pro coming up with a male birth control I'll put my donation I'll put my donation forward it feels a lot easy to change their little swimmers than to change our entire daily cycle that's different every single day of the month wait that was so crazy to me okay in the podcast they said 50% of infertility is male source and 50% is female for sourced like crazy I didn't realize so there were such high levels of male infertility yeah because I've never heard any guy ever talk about that just going to the woman yeah but also like I guess guys just don't talk about it I know one guy well you have one friend that they they was like the infertility that they were experiencing on his side but it took a long time to figure that out because it was like I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know they had they did a million tests on the women first yeah and then they're like I guess last resort I wonder about your 50% of this ball game and the easiest to test actually I feel like that should be first it's the easiest to test it's so weird they can't treat it as yeah well I think it's weird that I'm not thinking about that I'm thinking about the fact that like for women our tests are so different the guys they have to give their sperm Abby can say it it's Eve baby it's the fall no that's not what I thought you were going to say I thought you were going to say it's the ball yeah cheers oh my god take it back to Genesis oh my gosh that's funny abby can say it's the fall yeah you're right no it's totally different i think it's harder for them to figure out like if they don't have quality sperm i don't think that they can really like there's much that they can do to fix that what i feel like men is the easiest to fix because they're reju you can change one thing in a man they could stop going to saunas and rejuvenate their sperm in 90 days i guess if that's the problem but usually if i from what i know i know it's very little if it's a if it's a fertility issue on the male part there's very little they can do to fix it no i don't think that's true that's not what the lady said she said she's the lady in this podcast said they're in no other area of like no woman's area of woman's health can you change one lifestyle factor and completely change i guess if it's a lifestyle factor but if it's like they don't have quality sperm they can't make it good quality really but i feel like if you change your lifestyle it would be good quality you know most male infertility comes down to sperm quality evaluated by count motility how well they swim and morphology shape and structure um often easier to address lifestyle factors nutrition deficit deficits um hormonal imbalances infections more difficult to address is azoospermia which is no sperm when they ejaculate so they have no sperm obviously yeah this person had really low or genetic causes there's they can still ejaculate there's no sperm in it or this was that they had a sperm shape abnormality yeah like they couldn't change that okay not correctable though sperm can sometimes be this is genetic causes can sometimes be still be retrieved for ibf oh that's cool but just depends okay interesting thank you addy for that that makes sense okay well very interesting and i've also heard a lot of men with low sperm count yeah so yeah that can happen i was just surprised by that because no men ever talk about it no yeah but that is i mean it's probably embarrassing man to man but we need to yeah we need to get rid of the stigma for the men's yes for the men's yeah we'll move to patreon to talk a little bit more about like our future plans for birth control family planning how we see this going in the future will our mans get the snip and yeah and then we'll hop back over here for always hungry yeah voicemails all that good stuff so we'll continue this conversation on patreon the lemonati has spent decades keeping lemon on top and lime in the shadows their lemon agenda has infiltrated everything even our music that hit song named after the color of 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about the other side of the story i love to experiment in the kitchen and let's just say it can end badly so my question is what are your biggest cooking or cooking habits and what are your biggest cooking habits and what are your baking disasters of the podcast bye i'm pretty sure i shared this to her already on the podcast but i made this like mexican quinoa casserole a couple times and was like oh it's good did i already tell the story you did but tell it again okay well i was like it's been a hit in the past so yummy so good um and i made it differently instead of using a taco seasoning packet i'm pretty sure i used a chili seasoning packet because it's all i had which is very different and i added a too much cumin and then i i doubled it which also you know it takes more seasoning and i packed it up and i brought it to a family that i had never met but was kilb's friend that had just had their fourth baby and so then i get to their house late um pretty late because i was running behind i've been there and yeah i felt really bad dropping off a late dinner to them we get home we open up our second one kilb goes this tastes horrible and it tasted so bad that was so embarrassing i felt terrible i'm like you poor children um profusely apologize yeah it was really bad so that was really horrible were they like no it's good no i don't think they lied i i don't think he had tried it i don't think he had tried it but i like don't eat it yeah like just don't eat it um please please uh and then another time i made um like a chicken sausage thing for ourselves at home it was really gross and really weird i wish i had more details but i just remember oh it was a chicken sausage soup it was really weird it does seem you just freestyle it more than i do i actually hate sorry guys i actually hate following a recipe no i always do like follow recipe for the first time and then after that i'm always free balling it after and i make my own changes to a recipe but i'm so like i like being in the kitchen and just floating around and seeing what comes i like following recipes are really stressful sometimes i don't want to freestyle it um yeah i this one i just remember because this was when matt and i first got married and i was like just trying everything new and we were also in school so i like put uh like a lot of crockpot ones because i would like come home and this is when i'm like we were in that newlywed stage where it's like it's just so cool that we're living together and that i'm making him meals like i'm like this is just a fantasy world like this is so fun and then i'm like he's gonna love it and i'm and i quickly found out that my husband is very honest and i do really appreciate that yeah um but this was one of those moments where i was like oh i twitched we i made and i don't even know why i did this um some type of uh what do they call like a sweet and sour sauce it's like they have a name for it with meatballs oh my gosh it was like i'm gonna have to ask matt kung pao it was something like that i want to say it was like yin yang you know it sounded like that yeah yeah and it was probably just like the whitest recipe ever yeah clearly it had grape jelly in it yeah and i yeah we both ate it and i was like you know it's not terrible because i'm also not that picky and then matt was i was like do you like it and he was like and i was like okay well i know you're lying and he's like yeah i don't like it it's really bad never make this again it's really bad never make this again and uh i started throwing up a ton that night i had to go to the urging was it bola bola that's unrelated or hawaiian meatballs or jewish sweet and sour meatballs no no wait no from mulan i have to ask matt this is this is what are those sweet meatballs called those sweet and sticky party meatballs are commonly called grape jelly yeah that's i've only ever had it now i'm like was it orange jelly i need to ask me matt about this oh wow it was yucky and i started i had cyclical vomiting from the meatball probably not from the meatballs i think i was already gonna get sick but that made the flavor of these meatballs so bad really memorable holy i kept experiencing it over and over i had to go to the er and get iv meds to stop vomiting that happened with the yeah that's how i feel poisey oh oh yeah um that was really bad and i've also made one time i i made a recipe over and over and over again it was that chicken stew from ambitious kitchen yeah it's so good i made it bad one time i made it bad twice abby what is going on what are you guys making there's something very there's something very uh sensitive about that one because you've made we both made a good i made it it was delicious yes i made it great like two or three times yes and then i made it bad one time and i could never make it again because it was so bad and i made it for a group and i was like i made it for you guys the time i made it bad you guys were like something's different i was so excited because it was so delicious the time you made it before you made it for me twice once good once bad and then i was like well let me try it made it once good twice bad what's up with that recipe i don't know because her recipe is always slapped and it was it was really bad like it's like because it has like a little creamy element to it and it was like splitting it was bad and it was like separating separating and it was bad freaky it was just actually so bad yeah it has wine in it so i felt like i was like fancy fancy and elevated uh-huh yeah um i was wondering what is a life hack that you swear whereby like for me when i do my slick back ponytail i use like conditioner instead of hair gel because it washes out really easy and it looks the same and i was wondering what your life hack is so yeah love the pod what a hack with the slick back i've heard people doing that with hair masks really yeah okay i should try that so my life hack if we're gonna stick to the beauty realm because you inspired me i use hair gel on my eyebrows maybe i shouldn't say that no it's okay cut that um yeah i use just my trust in my hair gel and i have an old spoolie brush and because i don't like pigment necessarily on my eyebrows because my eyebrows are so dark and i just go in with the hair gel and they're pretty much stay all day that's great yeah that's it's essentially that's my hair it's hair it stays up good hack i don't know if i have any you have a sourdough tip matrick sourdough hack no also sourdough after reading yesteryear i feel like a fraud making sourdough i can't wait to read this book i'm like i put my sourdough in the fridge when i don't want to use it that's my hack if you don't want to use it you can just put it in the fridge people back in the day didn't have that luxury but i love my fridge um what's my hack what's my hack what's my hack oh well this is just if we're i guess if we're thinking about food groceries um i think you whenever you do grow first of all i get my groceries delivered because i do feel like i'm going to be able to eat a lot of food and i'm going to be able to eat a lot of food that's a hack for me not to just like spend go willy-nilly go get whatever just get get crazy and then also whenever i buy groceries i plan four dinners out of it at least so then you're not going to the store every day because that's what i would do otherwise and then i would spend a lot more too i would be very curious if we did a whole segment just on how you plan your grocery how you're playing your meals because i could learn did you go to the grocery store every day no not every day but i just buy things and i'm like what's i'm feeling today but i should probably be a little bit more i should be more tactful about it because yeah the budget usually is like that's the one area of the budget i usually i'm like and that's what i'm really literal about for some reason like i'm like i need to have meals before i order no it's wasteful how i do it for sure but i can't think ahead i don't cook a dinner most of the time so blake can't think ahead of what he wants like he's like i don't know just get chicken and ground beef and we'll figure it out yeah then we have chicken and ground beef all week and we never have a like a yes meal but not like there's no crockpot recipes there's no sheet pan things there's no it's chicken and a potato everything i have a whole process for it that it makes it feel very like i don't want to make a decision at the end of the day when we're done with like work i want to just like know what i'm having and i want to just go make it and i want to always hungry next week is going to be abby's go tells us about her i actually do have a very stream i want to know i would love to know i'm a little literal about this guy yeah i think do it that's that'll be next week's one of our next up okay i'm excited for that okay the last question hi abby abby and addy i love the show love listening to you guys my son listens with us sometimes and he goes wow that's crazy um anyways what is the best toy for kids that you guys love and toys that you do not love and would not want to gift to anybody thank you i love love magnet tiles nine thousand are the absolute best they are amazing they're very durable they don't make a big mess they're easy to put away you can keep going deeper with them just keep asking family members for new packs of them and my kids never get sick of them like griffin will go sit in his room during his quiet time and build zoos yeah he it's very imaginative very hands-on um i i just can't say i love magnet tiles and i'm actually very very strict about only buying magnet tiles yeah don't buy a this one don't buy it too i love that they say on it for ages like 2 to 99 because they're fun for me too i like to play with them and there's also so many realms you can go with it so like one time i got a big thing of paper and you actually my friend did this for us and they make she made shapes that they had to fill in with the magnet tiles that's cool and they stuck together and they made numbers and they made and my kids just sat there and you wipe it clean they do it again and it was like there's just so many things you can do with them i think you get a lot of things for your buck with magnet tiles i would agree that's a great toys i hate sand i don't want to see i'm such a experienced you love kinetic sand now here's the thing i love kinetic sand i think it's so fun i won't be buying it again for a couple years because my dog has eaten two pounds of it in the last i don't understand how your kids don't make a mess of it no he does but actually okay this is so goofy i've just been letting cj just kind of like free ball it with the kinetic sand i was like wow this is really messy i see my parents don't like this our babysitter who's in high school i came home one day and she had the kinetic sand in like a cookie sheet pan and i was like that's too freaking smart you put it on the ground yes i was just letting it put on the table on the ground and his toy i was keeping it in a tupperware i was not keeping it contained everywhere it's not keeping it contained and i was like man my high school babysitter is smarter than me most people put them in those like sensory bins see and even then they were getting every so i was like we got to get rid of this yeah cj's pretty like contained with it now that he has a spot to contain it he's like pretty good at keeping it in there but our dog just eats it like yeah i was gonna say any rubber toys are just banned from our house don't buy us bath toys don't buy us anything that's like can that's like rubber and can squeeze yeah the dogs will eat them they're not allowed in our home yeah a toy that i also do love this isn't necessarily a toy but we have this really amazing like pool in our backyard it's a big little pool and it's like a little and it's a big little pool it's a big little pool and it's from amazon it's like 30 bucks and it folds up so it's so easy to store it has not gotten any mold i'll like drain it i'll let it air dry in the sun for like a day or two and then i'll fold it up and put it in our shed and it's so nice and it's big um and cj plays in almost every day right now a water table is also great our kids still love a water table and it's like for babies they've had it since they were babies and they still love it they do get in it and i think they're gonna tip it see that to me yeah that seems scary it is scary i'm like i never got the water table they get in it together i feel like brio would like that i'm like just getting it in the grass not on the travertine you're gonna crack your skull you're gonna crack your head i've never got the water table because the mold component of it kind of freaks me out we've never gotten mold in our water table you drain it a lot yeah after they use it every time yeah just so it's easy to drain super easy it's just a plug at the bottom well poor cj's been missing out it's pretty it's educational too because they can put water in the top and they see it fall down it spins the thing cute um and this is how we fill it up i have matt go dunk it in the pool that's funny probably also why it's not getting mold there's chlorine in it perfect like or not like brielle really likes her um she has a miss rachel puzzle it could be any kind of puzzle honestly but it sings to her when she takes the pieces out so she really likes it and that she learned how to grab the pieces so she also learned how to grab the pieces so she also learned how to grab the pieces there's something about her voice every kid is just she loves it she has a she rarely ever watches it but she is locked in if there's something like i need to focus for something and i'm like no augie still loves miss rachel and it's really sweet because he like loves darth vader and miss rachel that is those are his two two personalities those are his those are his two personalities so sweet tender really scary and then bad guys bad guys yeah like he'll like look at me he's like yeah i'm like oh no yeah no no no yeah i think he's like extreme on both sides like he's just he loves that he's passionate so sweet always hungry that's a great way to passion is i literally think i tell them all the time i'm like augie i love your passion it is that's so true oh always hungry i have a pool dip i made that for memorial day it's a healthy pool dip and you know what this is something i need to take back what it has cottage cheese in it shoot very good no because you blend it so it doesn't have the curdles you blend the cottage cheese abby i did that one time it was so messy why and it just kind of got like grainy and gritty did it not no there's not that much cottage cheese it's mostly greek yogurt i don't think it was grainy or gritty did you think it was great no it tastes it is primarily greek yogurt and cottage cheese but then you put ranch seasoning and taco seasoning and rotel like the green chilies and tomatoes yeah and it was a good little like taco pool dip it was very light so i would say get some flavored chips for it like get corn chips i thought this would be amazing with those elote chips because it's like really it cuts the spice but i like love those the flavor of those chips yeah and it's very high protein i like that i like that it's good okay i'll eat it it makes a lot so maybe cut it in half if you're unless you're gonna go crazy big party big party yeah um my recipe is a lasagna soup my friend carly actually made this for us for uh postpartum when we had our meal train and it was so good and they brought all the toppings i had ricotta cheese and the parmesan it was so good and filling and yummy and i love a tomato based soup i made it for my dinner one week i don't think you were i love lasagna soup no i don't think i've had your lasagna i don't think you were there either ah no it was just my parents and grandma cute but it was really good i loved it i never made it before and i never had it before but i remember someone saying they loved lasagna soup i was like that's gotta be easy so i didn't really like it for some reason i don't know I like it because I don't love lasagna because it's so heavy, but the soup is just lighter enough, but it tastes exactly like lasagna, but it's not as heavy. That's my recipe next week is my grandpa's lasagna. Sorry if you don't like it, but I love it. Wait, I have a weird idea. What would happen if you took old pasta, like an old pasta that you've already made, like a bake, and then you're like, this isn't good anymore, and then just make it into a soup? Is that possible? I'm going to look her up because we have old pasta. Is it still good? We made it like two days ago, but Blake made it right. Blake's parents invited us to go get ice cream. We hadn't eaten dinner yet. Blake was making a pasta, baked pasta, so we just got done. We went and got Andy's. We came home. Neither of us ate dinner. We bought an ice cream. You just have this amazing, well, why don't you just heat it up now? We've been heating it up, but we both are like, it's not that good anymore. So maybe you just throw some. You can put a little bit of broth in it and blend it up a little bit. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Hey, it's worth a shot. I've already counted it a loss. 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