A candid girl talk about birth control

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(laughing) - They are a sweet tooth family. - Yes we are. - No, I'm talking about our old one. - Matt is also a sweet tooth. - Yeah, they are. - Fiend at night. - For sure. - Yeah, it's a specific late night thing. - Yeah. - So Caleb's trying to kick that habit. - I don't get it, I'm like, just, I get satisfied. Like if I'm like, oh, I have one sweet treat, that's great, but like, he will like, if it's like it unlocks something, he's like, can't get it, 'cause it's like, I'll find everything. - See actually, it's so true. - One cookie is not enough. I'm like, I need to at least have two. - Okay. - But after two, I'm pretty satisfied. - Yeah, so that was my heart. My other heart is out of my ludial phase, I'm pretty sure. - Oh, what does that mean again? - That's before your period. - Yeah, I'm pretty sure. - So you're a PMSing? - Probably, which is probably why I got so mad about the milk last night. - You were actually mad, or were you a play mad? - No, it was like annoyed. (all laughing) - Yeah, it wasn't right. It wasn't so likely to get mad about it. - Oh no, I didn't, it's totally valid. - I would tell you to be like, I'm getting coffee out in the morning. - Yes, so I did feel, you know, we spent a lot of time in the trip, so I was like, I don't want to do that. So he did pick up a gallon of milk this morning and brought it to me, which was really sweet. - Oh, that was so nice. - I know. - It was really sweet. - It was very nice. - Yeah, well, he better, I mean, he can, my heart is out. - It's carred, me, so it's better get to the pal of milk. - My heart is also really weird. - What is it? - My milk came in my left armpit last night. - No. - Mm-hmm. - I feel like that's kind of weird. - Good milk, you can do. - No, it came in the boob already, at like 17 weeks now, it's in the armpit. - Shoot. - And it's really sore. - Shoot. - And here's the thing, it's not a problem. It's not gonna get me mastitis or anything, it's not gonna, it's just ugly, and it also hurts. - Shoot. - It's just trapped in there. - Yeah, so that's really great. I woke up this morning, I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because then I moved my arm, I can feel it, and it's weird, you wouldn't expect that to hurt. It hurts. - Yeah. - It's kind of stings, which is weird. - It just feels really tender. - Yeah, it's really tender, and it's also like, I already had puffy pregnancy armpits, and now I have like worse. (laughing) At the gym, I was like, do I need to cover this up? Is this in DC? - Wow. - Do I just run t-shirts every single day? - I know, I probably should have. I get more sympathy, though, at the gym if I don't wear a t-shirt. Like Rob was training, and he was like, please modify, please modify. (laughing) Okay, say love. - It's like, 'cause they don't know what we're capable of. - Totally, I don't know why. - I don't know why, I know this is wrong, 'cause I experienced milk as well, but I picture it like a water bed, like just like your friend would say for arm. - Your arm, it's really firm. - Like I know, that's not true. - It's all clashed from there, so I don't know what it is. I don't know if that even will ever come out. Like, it just can't dissolve. - You can't pump it out. - Of my arm? - I don't know, like if you pumped, would it all just come out? I don't know. - But do you want your, I know I'm not gonna pump, that is so crazy. That would do something wrong, I think that's not even recommended. - Hey, remember you were putting the labor, like 38 weeks to start pumping at like 37. - Yeah, I might do that, I might do that, but then I'm also like, what is that going to do to my supply? - Oh, your supply's gonna be great. - Am I just coming earlier in this? - Yeah, you're gonna be on a married woman right away. - I'm gonna ask. I might have a doula, so that's exciting. - I think that would be good. - That would be great. - I'll ask her. - Not though, who knows? - I gotta be good. - Anyway, so yeah, that's my heart. It's not really that serious, but it is just like, man, I know that's not gonna go away. For maybe 10 more weeks. - Right. - That's okay. - That's okay. - It's just really yucky looking. - The last 10 weeks are slow and long at the same time. Are we slow and fast at the same time? - I keep saying, I had such a weird amount of time, like it feels like 10 weeks, it actually feels long, but then when you think about it, the span of like, okay, we're in June, then it's me July, and then August. - Yeah, I'm like that. I'm beginning of August. - It feels fast and slow, you're right. - Yeah, I feel like the labor at the beginning of the month feels soon too. - Could be the beginning, could be pretty close to the middle. - Yeah, that's true too. (laughs) - Could be 11. - It could be? - Anytime. - It's very likely that it will be the 11. - Wow. - So we'll see. My hope is I am extremely roasted. I was literally a potato that all of Tahoe. - Who's great. - I didn't do a thing. Abby was working so much and I was like, stop it. - I know I didn't want to, I had to. (laughs) Only have like two hours of day to work, you know. - You could also say that I had to. - No, you were like, I want to take a nap. I'm like, okay, here are the things I need, then take your nap. And then she gets it done and then she did take a nap. - Got them done. I like to cut every corner in Tahoe and I just, it was a lazy bump on a log. - No. - And then the kitchen. - I felt really good. I took a nap one day and then I just laid around. It was just really rough. - It was a lot of good blocks. It was fun. - Yeah, it was really nice. - I love going to blocks. - You don't want to food. - Yeah. - Good times. - Yeah. My hope, what's the date? I'll save that one for next week. - Okay. - I'm excited for next week. (all laughing) - Well, I'm just excited to get back into routine. Honestly, I think that feels always full so good after a long vacation. I thought this vacation was the perfect amount of time to where it was long enough to fully rest and long enough to miss home. - Yeah, do you know what I mean? And so when we came back, I was just ready to get back in routine, right? I hit the ground running. And so I feel really excited and motivated for the rest of this week. - Good. Yeah. - Me too. - Good. I've been listening to the podcast that we kind of talked about last time. I feel like this episode is a little bit of a continuation of our periods episode. - Yeah, because we talked so much about periods. - Yeah, so this one's gonna be more focused on birth control and that type, that realm of like women's health. But I finished, I still have like 40 minutes left in that diarrhea of a CIO women's health podcast. It's so interesting. - You thought it was interesting too? - Yeah, I did. I did. I mean, it's probably wouldn't like it. - The podcast? - Yeah. - I haven't listened to it. - I feel like after having kids, I care more about my hormone health. - Yeah. - I never cared before. Because I think now I feel the difference. - Yeah. - In my body so drastically. - See, I don't. And so I think that's where it comes in that I don't. Not that I don't care, but I don't. - Was part of you didn't feel it? - I mean, yes, and no, at the same time. - No, see, that doesn't make me feel it. - See, I just thought like that's just what's normal. So I wasn't really thinking my hormones are, I don't really register my emotions and like my thoughts to my hormones. Even though that's probably where they're coming from. I just personally don't. - Like in general, or just in general? - Yeah, in general. Even like when I was having my period and stuff like that, like I didn't really, it's a great excuse for things. - Usually my angry, if I'm like feeling a bit, like annoyed and angry, it's usually because I'm like, - Yeah. - I just don't only feel like that unless I'm, - Well, Blake also tells me which, some people might think this is mean, but he's like, you can't use that as an excuse for me. - No, I kind of agree. - No, I agree. - But I should, you know. - I feel like my energy, and postpartum I felt it in like, I felt crazy mentally. But in general, like when I'm not pregnant or postpartum, I feel it in my energy levels. - My energy levels drastically, too. - Yeah, for sure. - Like I like wake up, I'm very chipper, or I'm dragon. - Mm-hmm. I don't know what it was after pregnancy that unlocked. I think it's just a prolonged period of feeling bad for so long. I'm like, I wanna feel the best I can all the time now when I'm like, have the opportunity to, and I've almost become like a little kuku about it. - Mm-hmm. - Yes. - Mm-hmm. - So I feel like, that's my, I'm a little like, ooh, this is very interesting. - Well, and also just like, I feel like just going through pregnancy and postpartum, you're more in touch with your cycle than ever before. - Oh, yeah. - So now I'm like, okay, now I know more. I feel like I understand this conversation more, and it feels more relevant to me personally. So, yeah, 'cause I mean, that's the first time, like whenever we were like trying for babies, that's the first time I ever really had, like I ever felt like I was like, oh, I need to kind of learn, like, when are you fertile? When are you not fertile? - Right. - Like I didn't even really know any of that stuff before we started having kids, which I'm like, that's not good. - Right. - I don't think that's the time to figure that out, but the time is definitely when you start being sexually active and even before that, like just to know what's going on in your body. But so, yeah, in general, I'm more interested in this topic. - I think it changed a lot of the ways, it changed my viewpoint a lot and how I want to talk about Tavivian about menstrual cycle, which has been really fun to think through that because I think I've always heard periods, or it's always usually in a negative connotation, like, oh my gosh, I feel so cranky or grouchy or mean, 'cause I've been a little bit bloated. You know, it's never associated with a positive feeling, necessarily, and something that my big takeaway from this was that it's so healthy for our bodies as women. It's like one of the most important factors of our body, and like a huge sign of our overall general health. And so when I'm talking about it, it's like, oh my gosh, I'm like, I'm about to get my period. This is really exciting. Mom's like, hormones are giving really well and these are signs that I'm really healthy. It's like, let's be thankful that I'm healthy. That's what they talk a lot about in the episode. They're like saying, like, it's just a good signal. Like, it's even something to celebrate, like a new year period, 'cause it's like, everything is working correctly. And like, that was, yeah, that's a really good takeaway, and I felt that too, 'cause I feel like a lot of times, I was like, oh, right, I'm not gonna get it. Which it's like, there's that too, like, but, I mean, that was a really cool way to reframe it too, and a way to think of it positively. Especially when you're, like talking about to young kids that are about to experience it, you know, I remember being, we were all so scared. So, it's like, I would have fun way to talk about that. It's like, oh my gosh, it's so exciting. Things are gonna be working well and you're healthy. That's great, you know? - Yeah. - So, I think that was like a big takeaway for me. - Yeah, I think I've learned, like, as I've gotten older, and like met so many people who are in different walks of, like, with their period and their cycle and things like that, I become a lot more grateful for my story with my cycle and being like very regular and being able to count on that to happen 'cause a lot of people aren't that way and like have a lot of problems around it, which has made me way more grateful for my period, kind of like you're saying, that it's very healthy that that's happening and that's good that it's happening. - Totally, so. - Yeah, oh, we're glad. It made me wonder, I'm at the part where they're talking about perimenopause, sorry for like referencing this a lot and we don't have context, just know it's like in general health women's health podcast. - Yeah, we can also link it on our stories and be like, if you guys want to listen to this. - Yeah, I think you would. - Just go into the show now. - Yeah, 'cause that is an end date. - Oh, perfect, yeah, perfect. - They tell you how much it doctors. - Yeah, they're just discussing. The perimenopause, I'm like, is that just like postpartum for 10 years? I'm like a little scared. Because the way they talk about your hormones and they're like, the hot flashes and the sweats and the brain fog, I'm like, is it postpartum for 10 years? - I don't know. - I don't think 10 years, I don't think 10 years. - I don't think 10 years. - Well, it starts seven to 10 years before a menopause actually happens. That's perimenopause. So you have the symptoms of it because your hormones are, you know, you're losing your estrogen and everything's out of whack. - My mom just got all of her hormones tested. If she wants me to take this, I'll ask her. - Okay, yeah, I need to ask my mom too. - And so now she's supplementing hormones. - She's really excited to start. - She's really excited about it. And I think she's already feeling like, it's like doing something. - That like changed my mom's life. - Same, I told her the same for my mom too. - So she's like, I'm gonna get this all figured out. So in 25 years, you'll know. And I'm like, oh, they're walking so we can run. - And then I love the one urging her to those. Like mom, there's a good chance that your estrogen is probably too low. - Zero. - Yeah. - Well, I think that's the other thing with us talking about how we want to talk to like our daughters or our kids about periods and health and cycles. It's also our parents going through menopause and how they're so afraid for it to happen in that cycle that like we want to change that you know too of not being so afraid of that to happen in the future. - Like there's a thing that you can do. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And I also, the last thing referencing this podcast for now is that I also recognize that like the connection between, for me the big takeaway was like the connection between your cycle and your bone health because the, I mean, that's one of the major things with ages like your bones, like they lose their density. That's gonna happen. But that's what it's gonna slow you down. Like ultimately like I want to be able to live a long, active lifestyle as long as I possibly can. And if you have really low estrogen, it like affects your bone health. - It's terrible for your bone health. - Yeah. - And so, which they said that's repairable, which I didn't know that. - Yeah. - Yeah, I thought that was encouraging. - Yes. - How do you get that tested, your bone density? How do you tell, you just blood work? Do they just, do they do blood from your bones? How do they test that? - You do like spine type? - Yeah. - Google that. I'm so curious. - How to find what? - Your bone density. - To find bone density, you need a specialized low dose x-ray called a Dexascan. - Oh yeah, I wanna do that. They have one in epicenter. - It's quick, do they? - Painless and non-invasive test measures, mineral contents in your hip and lower spine to diagnose different risk factors. - Oh, okay, I really wanna do that Dexascan. - Regained screening is typically recommended for 65 and old. - Perfect. (laughing) - So here, I have a 30 getting my routines scanned. A lot of you people do that. - Yeah. - Well, I wanted to do it to test, 'cause it tests like skeletal muscle mass, everything, I just wanna make sure I'm in trending up. Trending up. We always laugh 'cause every time I go to the doctor, they take my blood pressure to give me the numbers and I'm always like, cool. So trending like up or trending down and that's not really how blood pressure works. It's not like, you're a hard one. - I never know what blood pressure means. They always tell me and I'm like. - Yeah. - They ask me where's they tell me and I'm like. And that's good. - Yeah, but that was good. I'm like good, but good compared to my last time. - We were bad compared to my last time. - You're like turning up for it but you're honest. - I totally were really competitive with myself. - It's okay, I was always like, it doesn't work like that and makes fun of me. So I'm like, I wanna get these scans to make sure I'm trending up. Trending up. (laughing) - I wanna know what's going on in the reality world. - Tell us enlighten us. - Okay, so when we're recording this, there's only been one episode of Love Island Out. - Wait, is this the one that comes out every day? - Yeah. - Sheesh Lapete, it's crazy. - See, I love that. Like, I love a show to watch. - How long is it? - So that's why I like it. - It's like a month. - No, I mean, six weeks. - Six week time of episodes. - Oh, well, last night's first episode in hour and 45 minutes. - Oh, it's a movie. - Typically, 60 minutes. - Okay, so. - Whoa, it's still a lot. - Yeah, well, they edited it like in real time. Like, they're probably like two days ahead, actually. - That's really cool. - It's really cool that they do it. The other crazy part of that is like, the social media aspect of it, these people are going in, don't have phones or anything. So when they get out, they have hundreds even maybe like millions of followers. - Oh. - Yeah, so it's like kind of. - Spooky. - Like, going from nothing. - Is that what's motivating them? - Probably something like that. - That's what I'm gonna be meeting on. - On those types of shows. - Okay. - Love Island. - There's like a starting group of girls and starting group of guys. They couple up and. - They couple up themselves. - Depending on the, like, they change it every year. How they initially cup, couple up. This year they had, they call it cupping. - Coupling. - Oh. - Coupling up. - They couple up. - How they cupped. - They had a couple up. This year they like had doors and the girls got to stand behind the door of the guy they wanted to couple up with. - So they've just met this person? Like, they have met them for like maybe an hour. - Oh, 'cause they have like a little cocktail hour and then they got in the couple. - Yes, and they have like a challenge and the challenge this year was. - What was it? - It was one where I literally watched like this. - They all kissed, basically there were like questions at each door and then you stood behind the door. Like, an easier one was, "Are you a dog person, a cat person or a plant person?" And then they stand behind the door and then once they open the door, the girls that are behind that door, kiss the guys that are behind that door. If there's multiple people, you kiss both of them. You kiss one and then you kiss the other and then it's just a lot. - And they're just trying to see if there's like a spark. - Yeah, but there's lots of kissing. They're gonna come to peak. - You know what's weird to me is that I am 27. I have, I have have children. I'm married. That, I can't believe that there's other 27-year-olds and younger on that show. - Literally 23-year-olds. - They feel older than me. - Yeah, like you're going and kissing random people. - I know, I know. - Yeah, so 23-year-olds. - They were kissing the situation and then they were coupling up. And so they're in their couples and then every other day or so new people come in. Like new bombshells come in. - Oh, is that a whole new bombshell? - Yeah, to the villa. - That is where it comes from. So a guy will come in and there will be, so there's only five girls or there's six guys and five girls. - So the people on deck. - So there's a guy who will go home. So that bombshell will come like recouple with a different - Do people just go home if they don't have someone? - Yes, most, so there's some strategies. - They don't choose to go home, so they couple up and if you get left without a couple, you go home if you don't get picked. - At the end of the day. - So there's some strategies. - Yeah, there's strategy too, but there's also, it's supposed to be the end. - How does the game end? - So people will get eliminated by usually, well, there's a couple different options. They kind of rotate through either the game ends by couples getting sent home from audience. Like we will vote on our favorite couples or a couple will go home. Or the islanders have to decide two couples to go home. So there's like safe couples, like the audience votes for their favorite couples and three couples are safe. And then those three safe couples get to pick who's going home out of the remaining couples. So there's the islanders pick sometimes and then the audience picks. - So the audience gets really invested in these people? - Yes, and that's why it's live too. So we can, like, the audience votes on what's happening. So then you vote for the winner. - There hasn't been a chance too, but yes. (laughing) - I thought it was bad about the first episode. - All the kissing. - It was so bad. - It was loud too. He wouldn't have the mics turned up. - Okay, here's the bombshells came in. Bombshells, bombshell, they had a girl and a guy. - Is this an Australia? - So this isn't Fiji. - Yes. - But it's an American, this one is love island. - So they don't say hot new bombshell. - That's a love island. - They do, okay. - The guys, the same audio, it's not an audio. He does it every time, basically. His name's Ian, something. He does a lot, there's like a lot of jokes, like the audio is kind of, he does them every week, like for the episode, every day for the episode. He records new ones. - Wow. - Like that relate to the episode, and he's doing love island UK, which is also on, right? - Also, he's, it's the same guy across all franchises. - Not all franchises, but USA and UK, he does. - How do you get that job? That's a great voice actor. - I don't know, he's done it for a long time. I think he was, no, I don't know. - Why was he saying he was marrying to someone at some point that was in the franchise? I don't know, that could be wrong. - But the bombshells came in. It already been like two days that they've been there and the girls and the guys they stood behind these doors again And they got to stand with that they couldn't see each other girls are on one side boys around the other They're like dogs. No, no, no, this is different now. Oh, just different doors now that plane doors You stand on the red if you want to cut like you're open to coupling up with someone new like that You want to meet new people and you stand on the green dot if you want to stay in your cup Oh, so they can't see if your other the guys doing the guys so the girls who stepped on the red Like and the guys who stepped on the red that wanted to mix it up the bombshells came in started kissing them And you could hear on the other side that someone's getting kiss Oh, no, and then they took them and they're off somewhere and we'll know tonight what happens. Whoa Okay, so who's more likely to switch the more girl switch or more guys two of each switched one couple they both Chosed to switch or to like be open. Yeah, like this ain't gonna work. Yeah, and then one girl in a couple and one guy in a different couple They switch they like chose they wanted to explore other connections. Wow, wow, so It's so they go home No one went home and they found a bombshell. They probably well, there's an even amount of people now, so I don't know anyone will Go home yet. Okay, but wow, Addy this crazy But listen love Island UK. I can't talk about this for too long There's the bombshells that came in for this one their episode. You watch two episodes last night Yesterday, yeah, oh wow Well the UK one comes out earlier so I can watch it. Why do they do that at the same time? It's so annoying because it's a summer It's a it's a big commitment. I'm like give me one in December or something And then you know, it's not really relevant. Yeah, you're watching it real time. Yeah, but the UK bombshells They could come in and they could eliminate anyone they wanted for any reason After 24 hours of being there, but it's a secret no one knows So they're like they're talking to girls are talking to guys and they don't know that they're like that they are gonna pick someone to go home So I gotta watch tonight's episode to see who these I think here So I mean, it's one of the most popular shows. Yeah, and the world right now in it. Yes I love Island is very very popular. I think it's hard because it is This episode first episode was so bad. I was just like so it was just so raunchy with all the kissing I'm like I can't watch this but I like them chatting. I like them having conversations. I like getting dressed up I like the challenges. They do are typically pretty fun But there are some like sexy elements to it that I don't love that's USA UK is not as raunchy I've watched two episodes of UK and it's been nothing like USA Really in the way that this first episode was so Really that's interesting. Okay. Okay. Well actually that's crazy. Wow. That's crazy I actually realized you have a couple real life while that's crazy I do you don't know oh my gosh a week ago today Blake gone in a car wreck hit and run hit and run We did car wreck. Yeah. Yeah horrible That was at 1 p.m. on Wednesday By 10 p.m. on Wednesday the tow truck company It's still not picked up you Blake's car. We are going through our insurance. They got a free tow truck Great awesome 10 p.m. Still had not picked up the car. Okay, and we've been driving we've it's it's drivable But we were worried that if he drives it that insurance would be like oh you caused this damage while you throw it somewhere So we were like if the tow truck is free. Let's do the tow truck totally and so I'm calling the tow truck company all day Trying to get a hold of them. No one's answering Calling you a say hey they still haven't picked up our car. We're not with our car I imagine if we were with our car and had no place to go. We'd get our 10 p.m. with no car With no place to be so at 10 p.m. I get a message that it was delivered to where we're supposed to be Then I two days later But it gets a call and said from the place that it's supposed to be at to be evaluated Hey, are you gonna drop off your car? What what do you mean? Are we gonna drop off our car? The tow truck company said they did They sent us pictures of it It's not here. Oh, oh, okay Call your caller insurance trying to get a hold of them got a hold of them. They're trying to figure out what happened tow truck company's not answering didn't answer for two days They call we finally got a hold of them Yeah, we have it here. We we couldn't deliver it because it was overnight and we don't have access to their overnight lot And we're like they're like yes, you did you had the code you could have gotten it. It's been two days It's been two days. They have it in their lot the tow truck company has it in their lot They've rigged we've we've rigged up 455 dollars of charges For being held at their lot. That's absolutely Obviously, we're not gonna pay that I get a message on Sunday evening that my car has been delivered to Where it's supposed to be they're supposed to pick it up on Friday. Mm-hmm. I get a call Monday that Hey, we're on our way to go get your car, but No one's answering to let us into the lot from the tow truck company. Oh gosh Are you serious? Oh, and this person that did the hit and run They're in a they were being followed by a state trooper because of reckless driving right of course When so they had the license plate and everything, but this the driver of the vehicle was not the one That was licensed with the register with that car. So there's nothing they don't know who the who the driver is At least still the car. They could have still a car could have been a boyfriend. So the car's registered to a woman The driver was a male, but they never Caught the person so even though he was being followed. Yes, delivered and evaluated then we get to call from the police department Hey, we have the insurance of the car that hit you. Oh, great amazing But we can't confirm that that is Like we can't confirm yet that they who the person was that hit you. I'm like does it matters how matters the car I feel like it does if it's stolen that person didn't the person in the car or the registered to the car didn't do the damage I don't know how that all works. I think if it's stolen it has to be reported as stolen Yeah, they would go right away. Yes, so they haven't turned themselves in so then I think must be someone who my gosh But they have the police have a person of interest We'll see where that goes, but we have their insurance So we'll see if he has that lucky cars. Yeah, he does and then um, so I actually as we're here recording. I got a message that um Hey, your car arrived at two o' two p.m. Today. Perfect. So after you pay like a thousand dollars There's other law who basically held you a car car hostage. Yeah, for sure Which tow tow truck companies try and do that fantastic also then my car's in the shop too because I got a check engine light So what did you do to get here? So Blake has a friend's a car. I took my mom's car. So we have done of our our own car. Love it That's crazy. Oh, I'm sorry. It's so stressful. Car stuff is so stressful if we can just get the insurance from the other people That would be fantastic. Yeah, man, we'll see what I do tow companies are ruthless. Yeah, they're ruthless in college My car got towed I parked in front of a driveway didn't know the driveway full curb and grass But so much driveway and I pull up do my car to go someone stole my car Started crying at my boy. Like, yeah, someone stole my car. You call the cops. It was towed because apparently it's blocking the driveway How do you know where your car is if it gets towed? Well, yeah, you have to call the police and they tell you where they took it. Like the tow truck company tells the police if someone calls And reports it they have to report the police because oh, that's good. I was wondering if that ever happened what Yeah, cuz I'm like how would you know where to pick it up? Where's my car? Yeah, the police they have to report it So I call they told me where it was they tried to charge me in arm and a leg And I just remember going in this little office and this woman was so stressed like there's so much going on around She had a baby in her arm. She was swinging this baby around like every time she walks the doorway that baby's head almost hit the Door and I was like so frazzled watching this scene and people were coming in and out and they're yelling at each other and good thing Kills with me because I was like they said on the phone it's gonna be $200. She goes it's gonna be $550 something crazy and I was like Excuse me. They said it was going to be $200 Holding back tears panic and kale was like she's not paying that so thankfully Like was a voice cuz I was so panicked, but yeah, they're ruthless. I feel like usually they wouldn't like you get away with it No, they like really no, we had like he had a fight a little bit. Yeah, but they really like they tried to jack up that price I'm like it's our insurance. They're not gonna let this go. They're not gonna pay that They're gonna definitely fight you on this like it's not a person. It's our insurance. They're not gonna Like also, why is our insurance using this tow company better never use again. Yeah. Can I get a hold of it? And you want totally It was sweet. Our our appraiser. He we he had to patch me into them so we could have a call together And he goes thank you for everything you done. I really appreciate it and then he gets off the phone with him. He goes Took everything in me to say I appreciate He's like I've really never been how to use Met a geolocating features of the photographs of The our car to find out where it was to find out I was at the tow truck company. You're kidding He's like we've never I didn't even know we could do that but apparently we can okay. Well, also you're like well, wait a minute You can track me at any time. Yeah The phone or something. Yeah, I must have been. Oh, yeah, so they yeah, they had a they look just that later Like the tow truck company want to answer so they had to literally look up this photo. Oh my gosh. Yeah It's not the lot now we're good. It's getting checked out two to three days. We hope it's there. We do. He said it is We um when we were working at Pizza Restaurant in college that there was a high schooler that worked with us and this she was always unfortunately finding Guys to go on dates with that we were like oh man And he took this guy took her on a date. and he got his car towed with her stuff inside of it. - No. - All they were on the date. And she called me, which I felt very honored. - Oh, yeah, it's okay. - And she was like, "I literally can't get in my house." It was like all of her stuff was in this car. And I was like, "Well, I'll go with you to the tow truck company and I will explain why we need to get in the vehicle." - Right. - I'm not towing this schmuck's car getting out. There's a parked in a terrible spot. Of course, I didn't know that they will not let you get anything out of your car. - Really? - Oh, I didn't know that. - Yeah, they won't let you get anything out of your car. - They hold everything hostage. - Yeah. And so I'm like looking at this guy. I'm like, "Where are your plans for getting your car out of you?" Like, I mean, I'm like talking to this random guy. That's probably in high school. - I was like, "What are your, "how are you gonna get your car out of here?" And he was like, "I don't know." And I was like, (laughs) and she's like, "My parents are gonna kill me." Like, she's all worried. And I'm like, "How much does it cost "to get this car out 275 at this lot?" And I was like, "Are you too confident?" - I was like, "Look at the guy." And then no one had that. And I was like, "Breathing it." I had like, that is like literally what we made in like two weeks ago. - Do you paid for it? - Yes. - Oh, and I was really stressed about it. - I had like, no. - Yeah. - That's generous. - We're gonna have to find a way. - You to pay me back. - Make way, make way. You can yell your tips from two weeks. - No one pays. (laughs) - That's what I learned. I mean, that's what they say. If you ever lend money, don't lend money that you don't expect to give it. - Just give it. - Never lend money, just give it. - Yeah. - Well, I was like, I told this guy, I was like, "Yeah, I would love to get that back." 'Cause I was like, "I thought I'd be generous with you." So, I'm like, "For you." And so, but he's like, "Yeah, I don't like it." - Okay, I'm never gonna see you again in my life. - He avoids belliciness at the point. - I gave him a relation to him if it ever comes back to me. I will know from that random to a big guy. (laughs) - You get a random ban more request from me. - Yeah, just, you know, thinking out of your car at a tow lot. - That's good to know. - If there's anything in it, crazy facts. - Remember Josh got all this stuff stolen from his car that was in a tow lot? - No. - Come in. - Stolen from the car in the lot. - I mean, that'd be a great place to hit if you receive. - 'Cause your owners cannot get to it. - They can't get to it and no one cares. - And yeah, they literally don't care. - No one knows who's in charge. - No one knows who's in charge there. (laughs) - Long detour there, but that's a birth contract. - No, before we go to birth control, one last detour. - You guys see my hair? - It looks great. - Thanks. It's called a partless look back. (laughs) - I actually, is this a thing? (laughs) - Should I have noticed it? - Actually, Kylie Jenner's part. - Kylie Jenner's partless look back. Everyone is like laughing online because she got coined wearing a partless look back to a basketball game with Timothy Xiaomei. And then people are like, don't you just mean a ponytail? (laughs) That's funny. - That's so funny. - I've never heard about this. - Yeah, just happened over the weekend. - Is it happening online? - Is it happening now? - Yes, and everyone's like, only Kylie Jenner could give a ponytail, a chic new name. (laughs) - I'm not kidding, I was looking at you. I'm like, she did it. - I did it. - I like it. I might have a headache later, but. - Why would the part make it any less headache-y? - No, yeah, I'm not sure it would. (laughs) - Oh, how do I achieve this look when you look it up on her? - How do I achieve the partless look back? - Prep the hair. - Brush your hair through. - It really sweaty at the end. - Apply product. - I'm a super low adopter to all these trends. Like, it took me a long time to adopt the middle part. Then it took me a long time to adopt a slick back. And even then, I can't do a super slick back. - Okay. - You look good with a slick back. - I love it. - Thank you. - I just am a really late adopter, and I just have to just stop rejecting it. I'm just have to know that I'm gonna get there, but I'll be like six months late. - Yeah. - Perfect. It's good. - I'll see you in six months. - Okay, now we can move on. I actually really liked this desk that Emma pulled, doing a read-em-outing. - Yeah. - Okay. So we were talking about bright control. Like, yee-hee. - Yes. - But we love the combo. - We win. - It is kind of taboo to talk about, but I'm like, it shouldn't be. - Yeah. - It's like a personal thing for sure. - It's personal, yeah. - Yeah. - But that's a real lady's podcast, and that's what we talk about as personal things. - Yeah, I don't know why I'm not. I don't find it personal for me. Like, sharing my own experiences. - Yeah, I'm not gonna talk about to my male neighbors. But, like, I'll talk about to the end of that. - Oh, yeah, I feel like I'm staying here. (laughing) - Our producer went through and found us some stats on how they did birth control in the past. So the ancient methods were early recorded methods in ancient Egypt and Greece, utilized barrier in sperm acetyl. - How the heck do they figure that out? - Pessarize, made with honey. - Pessarize. - Basically, they are gettin' pretty bad at it. - Pess. - P-E-S-S-A-R-I-E-S. - Pessarize, pessarize. - Pessarize? - Nevermind. - They still have that. - To block out sperm. So it was just like a barrier. - Like a condom. - Yes. - Or a condom. - With honey leaves lent to block the sperm. - Gosh, damn. - That sounds dangerous. - Honestly, why in my brain did I just, like, think they just, they either do sex or they pulled out? Like, that was probably the thing too. - Yeah, I don't think, to me, I'm like, they probably didn't think about it. - No. - They're like, how are you getting pregnant? I'm no close. - Sometimes I think people would pass and I'm like, oh, they didn't have brains like me. But like, that's just a waste of time. - Honestly, it's a waste of time. - I think it's more than that. - It's just the internet. - I don't know. - In the 16th century early condoms, they used a linen barrier devices. They're pioneered by a Catholic priest. - That's interesting. - That's actually really what I'm talking about. - Well, early reusable sheets made of animal intestines were famously popularized. So basically took the casings that you eat on the brawlers. - Yeah. - Yeah, got it. - Perfect. - Yucky, yucky. - A lot of these are smart. - All right, keep going. - The modern pill, which is 1950s to 1960s, it was developed by biologists and doesn't matter who it's funded by, the first oral contraceptive was approved by the FDA in the May of 1960s. It seems really like early. - Like you thought it's been around newer? - Yeah, yeah, I think so. - Well, put a pill. - And then currently 1960s to 1990s flexible plastic and copper devices that IUDs were introduced for widespread use in the 1960s followed by hormonal implants approved in the 1980s and 1990s. - hormonal implants would that be like the bar, the bar, which is, a lot of people said that one. It starts with an end. - That's actually an exoplanet. - Exoplanet? - Yeah. - That's actually interesting. I only knew one person in high school that you had the bar. Just play with it. - Yeah, I'd be like talking to someone like that too. (laughing) - I wonder what the benefits of that one are to other. - That's the research I should have done before this episode to be honest. Like the difference is between the different implants. - Well, the implant versus the pill, like is it a hormonal difference mostly? Is it just the fact that it's like an implants you don't have to worry about taking something every day, kind of like the IUD, is it, is that the main benefit? - It's hormonal. - Is the main benefit that I've just not having to remember to take something? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - It's foolproof. - It probably has a higher rate of like, what are they call those like a prevention? - On prevention? - No, you said it. - To prevent, no of prevention. - Uh-huh. - Like I think the highest, it's like the most successful. - Yeah, IUD. - Okay. - And I think that's like considered a form of IUD, right? - Oh, is it, except not an IUD. - No, it's not because IUD is not an uterine. - It's not an uterine, yeah, yeah. - It's an implant wearable type of thing. - Okay. - Next point, implant, last up to three years, highly effective, over 99%, set it and forget about it. Fertility returns quickly after removal. That's what that one says. And then the hormonal IUD last three to eight years, depending on the brand, dramatically lighter, or no periods, highly effective and reversible. - Interesting. - So we pulled you guys for those of you that wanted to participate on what form of first control you used. And I feel like these, this kind of surprised me. First of all, we asked, do you use birth control? And 73% of you said no. - I was surprised too, but then I did think, I think most of the women in our audience, or what, 18 to 34, or like 25 or 34, they're really young now. - Yes, but I feel like we have a lot of women that are probably in the family planning season of their life. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Our audience, like we're moms who talk about motherhood. I would assume a lot of people want to be moms, or currently moms, or are planning to be moms. - I also thought there might be a group of our audience that are like Christian women, that are not sexually active. - Yes, also true too. - There's a lot of people that are not sexually active that do use birth control though. That's why I was like, surprise by that. - I wonder if the conversation is switched though, around like the use of birth control. And as for health symptom stuff, instead of just like birth control. - It definitely is, which means you've been changing a lot. - So yeah, I am surprised by that number two. - Going over the stats. - Yeah, what form of birth control, did you use? 19% said pill, 12% said IUD, 18% said condoms. 51% said natural feel me, planning, or other. - A lot of the others are either the next step, what was that? - Next to plan, next to plan, next to plan. - The next one, the arm and plan. - The arm and plan. And then a lot of pulling prey. - Pulling prey in there. (laughs) - Been there. - It's a great method. Next plan, is that what it is? - Next plan. - Next plan on. - Next plan on. - Thank you, so sorry. - Oh my God, I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. - I'm so sorry. (laughs) - Hey, I would know. - No, 'cause it's so mid-western, okay. I will say, okay, I'm looking at our audience insights on Instagram. And we, you have 53% of our audience is 25 to 34. - Okay, so that makes sense to me why natural family planning will be the biggest and maybe not, because that is prime family planning years. - Where you're kind of like in-between. - Yeah. - You're like, immences, just like not necessarily. - Yeah, you're coming off the pill. You're trying to like regulate your cycle, learn your body, more so. - You don't need the most effective form. - Exactly. - Where I'm like, when you first get married or? - Yeah, the other people are saying they don't use birth control because their husbands have a bisectomy. - Oh, ladies that have beat us there. And ladies that have beat us there. - Oh, I can love that video. - So that's interesting. And we also did ask another question, because there's so many caps. - She said he got fixed. - He got a fix. - Oh yeah. (laughing) - I'm sorry. - We'll be there. We'll be there. We also ask, 'cause here's the thing. Even in my own life, there's been so many different things I've used for birth control, but like, it all kind of just depends on what the why for that specific time of your life. So we asked why you initially put on birth control. 47% of you said pregnancy prevention, which I feel like that's what I would have expected for that. 8% said health reasons. 12% said acne. And 33% said to manage period symptoms. And I'm guessing for health reasons is that probably related to a PCOS. - PCOS? - Endometriosis. - That's exactly what I was thinking. - Yeah, 'cause if you separated from acne, then yeah I would assume. - Yeah, so that's all very interesting. And all these things really influence what method you choose or whether or not you don't use anything like that. And so I think it's just a broader conversation that we've talked about. It's just becoming more relevant in our lives as we are entering our family planning stage. Or even when I first was engaged in thinking about, I'm like how do I even enter this whole realm? 'Cause it was never a conversation in my house. Like as a teenager, it was never a conversation of like, I never even felt like I could ask to be on birth control. I didn't have a reason to be on birth. I was not sexually active and I also didn't, I've always had very manifold periods. But I always was like, oh, hopefully I had friends in my life whenever I'm engaged in a marriage that could help me. And they did. Educated by my friends. And so that's, let us just kind of, we can talk about our own personal experiences. And then also it could enlighten. Or like maybe you just be like, oh, I find myself in the same stage of life as you right now. This might be what makes it good for us too. - Totally. - Yeah, I actually went on birth control. I think it was 17 or 18. I was a senior in high school. I was not sexually active at the time, but kind of planned to be in the future. (laughs) I'm hoping that's the way. I shared my testimony in the past. So this was like pre-that. And yeah, so that was like a motivation for me internally, but when I was talking to my mom about it, that obviously was not shared. So I did have pretty bad cramps and I had really irregular periods. And that was an issue that I felt like I had. And so it was kind of like, oh, I get two birds once done. And so that was when I went to the doctor and talked about it at 17, which I look back on that now 'cause I was on the pill from 17 to, right before kill, but I got married at 23. I switched to the new ring. And I think I, not that my doctor didn't like tell me anything about the pill, but I also didn't really know anything about it. I still don't since I've never done the pill. - Yeah, I, listening to that podcast, I actually felt like the better about it because I appreciate that my body had that seven day break each month. - But is there an option where you don't take, like you could skip the sugar pills and just skip your period altogether? - Yes, you could, but I never did that. - So that is recommended is to take sugar pills for seven days so you never forget to take the pill. - Right. - But then you still get your period because you're not taking the pill? - Exactly, yep. - It's like, you have a high milk basically. - So since you, you don't get your period, like when I got on one birth control pill, I didn't get, I got my period on a different one. I didn't. - So it's just the same. - Even with the sugar pill? - Yeah. - Really, I always did. They were definitely lighter and like very manageable when I was on birth control. Which I felt like before they were heavy. Like I would use super plus tampons when I was 17. And actually when I got off a birth control before having kids, I felt like my periods were very manageable and light even after years being off of it. So I think it was just being young and like my body not being regulated on its own necessarily in my lifestyle probably really jacked up. My, you know, I was extremely reckless as a 17 year old in the way that it ate, slept in. Like lived my life basically. So there were probably those factors too that affected it. But yeah, I was on that for about seven years before going off of it. - Wow. - So you're on the pill for seven years. - Oh, okay. - Well, I see 17 to 23. How many years is that? - Almost seven years. - Six years. - And then I was on the new ring from 23 to 26. - And that was, after listening to the podcast, I was like, I feel like that's a really good option. - Yeah, I actually thought the new ring was really easy. It's basically like, it looks like a ponytail holder and you just pinch it and it slides up in there. It's really comfortable. You don't feel it. And then you wear it for three weeks. So it's not something that you have to like, take every day or remember all the time, but you just kind of mark when it comes out. You take it out and you have your period every month. And your body gets a break from the hormones. So I really enjoyed that. I felt good on it, it felt fine. But when I came off birth control, I did notice a big difference in how I felt. Like I think I went on it so young I never actually knew what my normal was. So that's kind of my experience, I feel like. - Yeah. - So far. The new ring, do you know what hormones are in that? 'Cause I've learned that there's like estrogen and progesterone, like some of them have both. - I think from what I heard, I'm learning, it's better to probably have both. - I think I was always on a both hormones. - Okay. - But my pill was both. I do remember that. And I think my new ring was also both. - Okay. - Yes, it's estrogen and estridial? - Estrid dial. - Estrid dial? - I think so. - Those two are what's in a new ring. - Oh, so it doesn't have progesterone. - Oh, so it does not progesterone. - Well, estrid, is that what you want? - Estridial is a progestion. Is it progest. - Progestion. - Oh, it's like a synthetic progesterone. - And then there's a synthetic, estrogen. Yeah, okay, so a progestion and then a synthetic estrogen. - So yes. - So it had both. - The common word, the word they use are not those words. - That should be progested dial. (laughing) - This is not a sign. - And then it's a sign called a progestion. - It says a progestion. - We have the educational resource. - Yes. - This is the chatty conversation. - Right, good talk. - We could be wrong. - So just ask your doctors. - So that, no, I do think that's what they said on the podcast. They were referred to that being like a good option. - Yeah, 'cause it has both. And then you also get the break each month from the hormones. - I also like the idea that you don't have to take it at the same time every day. - Yeah, that was a lot. - Which I did that for seven years. I mean, I said an alarm on my phone and I would have to change it based off my life stage. But you can't change it in the middle of the month. You have to change it at the beginning of your new pack if you want to change your time that you take it. So you would have, once you picked your time that month of when you were gonna take it, you had to stick to that time for the whole month. - Oh. - You had an hour before and an hour after that you could take it. - Wow, see that? - Yeah. - It's tricky. - So I would set alarms. - 'Cause I could do travel and stuff and you're like trying to figure out time zones. - Yeah, I mean, I was in high school so I relatively had the same schedule. - Yeah. - And then college got a little trickier, but I could kind of, I could kind of understand about my schedule was gonna be. So I actually feel like during school, it wasn't the hardest to keep track of, but yeah, once I graduated, it was a lot harder to keep track of my schedule, my time. - I see, I feel like I know myself. And when I was, I don't think I could do that. - It's hard for me to even remember to say prenatals. - Yeah, honestly. - And that's something that will eat you up at, that I'm like. - I'm damaging my baby. (laughing) - The gill and it's like, "Okay, you're fine, if you miss a couple." - No, and I really haven't, but I remember that being like really hard for me. Like, I got really in this way with it. I've been on prenatals for a year now, over a year. So, but yeah, I'm like, that probably wouldn't have been a good method for me early on when it was like really important for me to like prevent pregnancy. Isn't there an option that's a patch? - Yes, the patch is a weekly application versus a daily pill, similar benefits to the combined pill. - I've never known anyone that's done the patch. - I did, I knew someone that did the patch. - Where they put it on their butt. - Oh, can that make sense? - It's probably similar to, I kinda like that idea rather than a ring up there. - I've been on prenatal for about two or three years now. I've been on prenatal for a couple of years now, and I've been on prenatal for several years now, - In fact, once a week feels better than every day, but once every three weeks, also good options. - Yeah. - I'm just excited now to learn about other options because I feel like with me, I'm not saying I couldn't have done a lot more research, but I just was like, oh, there's a pill that you have to take every day, or you could just do this one thing, and then you don't have to think about it. And so when I, a month before I got married, and we waited to be sexually active until we got married, I was like, okay, it's time to choose an option, and I felt like I was like, you could either do something every day, or you could just do it one time. I was like, one time, check it out the list. - Let's do it one time. - And so that's when I got the Kylina, which is the IUD, they generally recommend before you have children. And I remember that there was like all kinds of YouTube videos of like IUD horror stories. - Oh. - And it was like, they were actually really scary. Yeah, they're super scary. That's why I never got the idea. - Oh my gosh, but then also like my mentality, I don't know, this is just more of my personality. I'm like, that's not gonna happen to me. It's all gonna be fine. And I really wasn't worried about it. And that could have been really naive, 'cause I could have had a terrible experience, but I actually had a really good experience, I could have literally went in. And they actually recommended, like I had like a driver for that. Like they recommended like someone else take you, and I remember that my friend was supposed to get plans fell through. And I was certainly not gonna ask my mom. And so I just took myself, and my mom found out, and she was like, Abby, like I would have come with you. I was like, I actually didn't really need anybody. It was totally fine. Like they, so I like went in, and then they just like shoot it up there. - Wow. - And it's not comfortable. - Yeah. - Like goes through your cervix. - Oh. - Like it pierces it almost like your piercing or what? - Yeah. - Or just clip it. - It goes through and then it's a T, so it stops. - Oh. - So there's like tiny little wire still like, but it's pretty high up there. - Yeah. - So you can't feel it really. Like I think they say you can check the strings. - Yeah, so they have strings that come down so they can take it out, but they usually try and cut them pretty short so you don't feel them. But if they leave them long enough, you can feel them or your partner could feel them. - Yeah. - That is, you told me to check them. And I was like, - Well sometimes after a certain point, they can feel a little sensitive, but they'll like get wrapped and mucus and like stuff like that at a certain point. But if they're bothering you, they can sometimes tuck them up into your cervix. - It never, I never was anything I felt. I never felt anything like that. - Yeah. - But the Kylina one is a little smaller. I think it also has both. - Is that why they recommend it before you have a kid? - Yes. - Because things are like tightened. - It lasts five years. - Just nice and pretty complete up there. - Things are still intact and then they're damaged. (laughs) - A little looser. - That's essentially what happens by now. - I've been through some things, scenes and stuff. - This has been through a couple of rodeos. (laughs) - And that's exactly what happened 'cause of the bullet. - So don't worry again. - But yeah, so had that one. And it was extremely effective. I didn't have a period which now in hindsight, I'm like, you didn't love that. - That should have been, at the time I was like, this is incredible. I just, it was more just for convenience sake. Like I have to think about it. - Of course. - In hindsight, I'm like, maybe that was probably too high of a dose for my body because it was probably preventing ovulation. So there's, yeah. I don't know how on the weeds you wanna go, but with IUDs, they aren't marketed to prevent pregnancy by stopping ovulation. It's by thickening your cervical mucus. But since I didn't get a period, sometimes that is also an indicator that was also, the dosage can be high enough that it's like stopping ovulation altogether. - Gotcha. - So I think that's really what was happening. I probably wasn't ovulating for that amount of time. - Is that bad? - It is based on listening to that podcast. It's not ideal. - But I don't think I ovulated, I didn't ovulate, but I still had periods like even with the pill 'cause it stopped ovulation. But I had a period every month. - Yeah. - It's almost just like your uterine lining is shedding, I guess, but there's no egg. - I probably was not ovulating and not having a period. - Okay, gotcha. - Like I was probably not having either one. - I remember someone told me that one time, like, oh yeah, it's a fake period and I was like, what does that even mean? I didn't understand. - It probably just means you didn't drop, I didn't drop an egg. - Yeah, but I still blood. - Yeah, for seven days, which is crazy. - That is crazy. - Yeah. - Yeah, I had nothing. And I also relatively had like getting it in wasn't a big deal, it was uncomfortable. - Yeah. - But it was quick and I felt like, I felt like a little crampy that day, I think, but then nothing serious. And then I had a good experience. Some people have really bad experience, their body kind of rejects it and anything. But so then I didn't have no period for two years. Over two years. And then whenever we were ready to start trying for a kid, I got it taken out and that was really easy. Like, it's literally just like good. - Oh, it's good. - Yeah, it was, it's like you feel it, but it's enough for me, it wasn't anything painful. - Yeah. - And then I got my period literally 28 days later, like on the day, which I do think is unusual. And I also want to preface this conversation by saying, like I have learned more through having conversations with other people and from like listening to other women share their stories on podcasts is that my situation being so normal is actually not normal. - Like being able to get pregnant so quickly and easily. - Well, and also just like my cycle returning really, - Oh, so fast. - And like having like relatively no side effects on them. Like I'm sure I, I'm sure that I did feel like, oh, like probably less drive. I probably felt like less energy. But it was nothing noticeable at the time. - Sure. - And so I, and I think that it's also just hard to say, like I'm like, did I? Who knows? I felt like no symptoms. But the fact that I felt no symptoms and also my cycle returned really quickly, like that's not the typical story. - Right, I didn't only recommend six months, right? To go up for a schedule before you want to conceive. Like they say, give yourself a release in six months, for your body to like re-regulate itself. - And I think I did figure for that. - But we did, we conceived like that next. - Yeah. - That, yeah. - And so, that was an unusual experience, but I had a good experience with that. With, that was a long way of saying, like I had the Kylina IUD until we had our first. - Yeah. - And then the Kylina's hormonal, correct? - Yeah. - Yeah, to hormonal. - Okay, is the copper one that's not hormonal? - Yes. - Okay. - And so I, then we had our first, and then we're like, we're just gonna do condoms, and we didn't use a condom one time. Then we had our second child. So, I learned my lesson about myself. - Oh, see, that's interesting. - No, I think that we'll, yeah, we're not reliable. - See, we're strict about it, but I've went, got the wrong thing. We weren't home, so, so. - And we said, "Oh my god, you want to hear it?" - We would have done, we packed it, we did. - Ew. - So that's, you were ovulating. - We were really, I didn't, I didn't get my period, so I didn't think that I was ovulating, but you can't ovulate without your period. So, we were just kind of being careless until I got my period, that time, no. - Perfect. - This says, old advice used to be wait until three months after getting off birth control, but it's largely outdated, and research hasn't shown any benefit for waiting for safety reasons. The main reason is to give yourself a cycle or two, and simply to know your body. - I don't know, say three months. - But four, that's old. That's old. - That's why she said six. - Yeah, it's mostly just so you can understand your body a little bit before you know your cycle. - I don't think this lady was saying that it would be like harmful to your body or anything like that. I think she was just saying like, normally it would take six months for your body to regulate itself, which would make it easier than to get pregnant. - It depends on what? - Probably, yeah. - But control, which one were, was she talking about, or is it all? - Like hormonal. - In general, hormonal. - Yeah, this says, like the pill patch or newver ring, combine hormonols, it's typically one to three months before people ovulate again. - I went off the newver ring when I turned 26 because I had to pay for my own insurance, and I was like, well, I'm just not gonna go to the doctor, I think. - So stupid. - I was like, well, I'm just, I'll just call it a day. And we had kind of like, been talking at that point, like, hey, we're not ready, but- - Wait, can I tell you something I've never told you before? - Yeah. - I saw on your, okay, so the guy that we got locked out of our house after getting home from some trip- - We were on a trip all together when you got locked out of your house. - Okay, we stayed the night at your house, we were in your guest bedroom. On that white board, it said, have a baby. - Did it really? - Yeah, so they were like, it was unplanned. I was like, wait, I mean, I saw it on your vision board. Not my vision board. It said, have a baby. - Oh my gosh, it's funny. I mean, we had talked about it 'cause I had just, I turned 26 in May, and yeah, I was like, hey, if we get pregnant, like, cool, but let's not try. Kind of vibes, but we'll pull the goalie. And I was just kind of like a smooth transition, like, lost my insurance. I'm not gonna worry about a doctor. And then I was like, cool, I'll just go off birth control. And so we just did like pull out condoms. Yeah, you know, it just takes one time. So- - It just takes one. - My time of responsibility. But obviously it was like the best timing for us. And I was, oh, I feel like sometimes I'm the personality type where I was grateful that my hand was forced a little bit because I am just not like a planner. And so, having that decision made for me was perfect from the Lord. So that was really good. But what was I saying? What was my point about that? - And 26, you and I. - Okay, so that was May. I got pregnant in October. So how many months is that? June, July, August, September, October, five months. Which we only, you know, we were used other protection during that time. But yeah, got pregnant pretty quickly after that. - So you can get pregnant if you don't have a period. That's good to know everyone did you feel differences? Oh, I guess okay When you went off of your IUD the second time did you notice a difference in how you fell to talk about your Yeah, okay, then I had my second I was pregnant with my second and then after that We're like we need the most highly effective contraception very brutal, and so we got back on the IUD But this time I needed the big mama I had the marina That's so funny. We're such a good petite girl. You're like give me the big mama IUD This one last eight years versus five. It's so crazy Um, and so we I got that one. I literally got that I'm pretty sure I asked for it at my six-week appointment And they're like you need to wait two more weeks Why I don't know. Oh, I guess cuz things were so I think my cervix was probably been still a lot I think it was closed, but I think they were like let's give it a minute And you got a C-section, but I'll get to so yeah, but I think I did still Dilate probably a little bit early on. You got it right before we went to Malibu Did you get it? Okay, maybe I was six weeks. Yeah, cuz I was like I feel like you got it that day that we left Or the day before I got at six cuz you were like I need to get this before we leave. I'm not going anywhere without How do you remember that? I don't remember that I knew you had a doctor's appointment T.M.I. Wow. Sorry, but I feel like I asked for that appointment. They said no. Oh, maybe I don't think that most doctors want to do it right at six weeks But I do think I got it like at eight weeks Mm-hmm, and I think I tried and they're like girl slow down a heel slow down And so they I got it at eight weeks, and it was very effective And I did not get I didn't have a cycle ever since and since I was only six weeks postpartum never got I never got it for like a really long time. Yeah getting off of that. I Had relatively the same experience as the last time. Yeah, I got my cycle back like literally Probably a month later. That's great. And Yeah, but then we just did Conms again. Mm-hmm. So yeah That cuz then we're like okay at this point. We're not we're we're gonna like let it's not gonna We're not in the red zone. We don't have a baby. Yeah, but we're gonna be it's okay And yeah, then we just used track my cycle and use condoms. Yeah, did you how was tracking your cycle? I've never Tracked ovulation or my cycle ever really yeah, I Didn't track ovulation. Oh, it predicts when you ovulate based on when you get your cycle Okay, so you use an app. Yeah, I used an app ever since I was in high school I have the same app that I use ever since I got my first career Also, I have a data data. I have data. I just tap it when you start your period Yeah, and you you can mark you can mark a lot of things like you can mark like your symptoms You can mark like your flow Mm-hmm, and I never really got super detailed about it But I want to know where it started. I mean, I have a list on my phone of all my dates like all my periods But I don't track just in your notes app. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of bullet points there There's so many resources out of you. Listen, I know but just for some reason they didn't even app just feels overwhelming It's so easy, and then you can share it with your like Matt has it to mm-hmm, and so he could like no Then we for sure need he's already prepared. Oh, because the ovulation factor of it. Yes, perfect or if it's like we're trying Then it's like that's cool It's happened. I know she'll like yeah, I'm probably ovulating right now, so it's you know be aware That's what I yeah, that's what it that's what it is because it's not accurate. They don't know. Yeah, it doesn't know I never did like the Natural cycles is that what you're adding. I did natural cycles and I had an ordering and tracked my I wanted to do natural cycles after my first, but it doesn't work until you get your period back Your it's it's not effective in like you can't you have to have your cycle. Yeah Yeah, so unfortunately, yeah, I didn't get to use it. Yeah, well, unfortunately because gosh, I'm glad we have augy, but of course That was gonna be the plan. Yeah, uh-huh once that came back so really I've only used IUDs and Conum's sashpole and print. Uh-huh. Well, we've all done different things. Yeah, I got it I had it I was on the pill when I was in high school to manage period symptoms cramps and I want to say very Loose kindly like I have no I feel no Reason against my mom or like the doctors for giving me on the pill I wish potentially now or what I might do in the future is like What are you eating? Mm-hmm. Are you hydrated? Like let's try these other thing like are there supplements? You could be taking that could be helping in these areas before we jump to throwing you on birth control Yeah, I think that's could have been an option before jumping into birth control, but I was on the pill for My sophomore year of high school Until my sophomore year of college and then I was just like Why am I on this? I don't I'm gonna try and get off of it and my doctor was like sure Went off of it. I got my period back. I felt fine. I didn't have my period at all during that time either Wow, so then I was off of it For I guess sophomore year until Beginning of my sophomore year until the end of my junior year. I got an IUD I remember texting you or talking to you about it and being like it's gonna hurt Like what do you think and you're like it doesn't hurt that bad and it didn't hurt that bad for me either I know people say it's really bad. Maybe depends on your anatomy. Yeah I always said it felt like the three worst cramps back-to-back and then it was over Oh, yeah, I'm sure it's uncomfortable. It's really far up there Well, I think the worst part is like clamp your server. Yeah, it's like like you're like it like really they're like it's like the worst Cramp of your life, but it probably feels like a membrane sweep, doesn't it? Not like that Well, they also stick a really long ruler up there. Sheesh. I feel like a membrane sweep is kind of like Kind of similar pain level a little bit, but I feel like a little Sensation is different. Yeah, the sensation is different, but I was on an IUD from 20 or like May of 2022 till May of 2024 so two years and then I got it out and then we did Natural cycles and I had an or a ring and I tracked very rigorously my Cycle when I was obviously when I wasn't and so we did condoms and abstaining like during the ovulation and then We decided to get pregnant and so that happened Right away for us the first try once we stopped and we got pregnant in December so May to December of 2024 so I was only off of it for six months And then got pregnant. Did you guys notice a big difference when you went off of it? No Really never did either time I didn't notice until a second time that I hadn't used an IUD. I felt like oh wow I have a lot more energy. Yeah, I noticed it in my energy. That's why I always say like I was like oh I felt like I first noticed it at the gym. Yeah, so I was like oh wow I can do this for longer. Yeah, and I can like I just felt more. Yes And I think it's I don't know why I Said like having kids and going learning more about this. It's like it's kind of been like oh I can pinpoint now why I feel this way where exactly I'm probably feeling it But I couldn't identify the why right and now I was then I was like able to for that like period of time before we got pregnant Where I was like oh wow and now I'm like I never want to be in that state again exactly that's how I feel too after I went off of it Well, you know, I actually forgot that I went on the pill for one month after I had CJ and I had that pulmonary embolism scare Do you remember that? Yeah, I thought I had a blood clot in my lung and so I went to the ER for shortness of breath And basically the whole thing. I didn't either was healed or I didn't have one. We don't know. I'm gonna go with heels But they did all the scans that I had one overnight when I'm blood thinners the next day did skeins again and it was gone so That was really scary and I was like I'm done like I'm not gonna put this medicine in my body anymore That's like potentially gonna cause blood. I just like to me the risks. I was like I'd rather have a baby then Like potentially beyond this medicine that could cause some side effects. I didn't want So to me, I feel like that changed my opinion a lot on things And I felt so drastically better off of the pill like my energy level was so Just amazing and my sex drive was like way higher too And so those were the two biggest things that I felt like the wow. I feel so good I'd never want to go back on that and feel so so sluggish again Mm-hmm. It was noticeable for me. Yeah, especially being that close postpartum Yeah, like where you're like, okay, I don't need anything else making me tired no literally and Yeah, and I so yeah I also do think that that would have helped my like postpartum experience After our second not having jumped to a whore like once again more home once like it's like my hormones had not Regulated after six weeks. Right. No, we were not there yet And well does it help your hormones because you're getting this synthetic version or is it not? I feel like you're not able to regulate them on your own like you're masking everything. Yeah, it's like okay It's like a band-aid over the problem probably. Yeah, it definitely didn't make me feel better sure it did and so But like one of that that's also that time is such a you know a foggy time anyway where I was like who knows what it would have felt like you can't compare but I Definitely remember feeling after my second time having that idea is like okay now I feel like totally like different and And also, I felt also really comfortable at that stage of my life getting a cycle too. I was like, it just felt like a good indicator of my hormonal health, my fertility. Like, it felt good having that again, especially since my weren't unmanageable. And I was like, I don't wanna lose that anymore. I don't wanna artificially make that go away anymore. - Totally. - And also learning more about it. I was like, okay, I want to keep this happening in my life and so. - I'm curious for you guys. So after eight weeks, you got on an IUD after six weeks, you started on the pill? - Yeah. - Did you feel pressure from your doctor to get on a birth control? - They did kind of like, they were like, okay, what are you thinking about your birth control methods? And I was like, I don't know. And they were like, well, we really recommend it. Like, we don't need to get pregnant for at least 18 months. And that's like the best way to ensure it. So they definitely like strongly recommended it. And I was like, on the fence about it and I was like, well, if I don't like it, I can always stop. And so I did, like, based off their recommendation, get on it. But I didn't think it was, I mean, I had told her, I didn't wanna get pregnant. So I didn't feel like it was a pressure of like, I think she really just thought it was in my best interest. Yeah. - 'Cause you had a C-section. - I had a C-section. And I had like a lot of complications too. So she was like, I think it would be really like recommended that you don't go on something. So yeah. - Yeah, my doctor was like, what's your method? Like she was like asking about that. And I was like, you know, gonna do something. It's like natural the first time. And then the second time I was like, yeah, give me the strongest thing you've got. - I do think when I said, like, we're just gonna do condoms. I think she was like like that. - She was kind of like, it's a little, just you know, they're only like 90% effective or something. You know, she kind of gave me like a thought. - Just so you know, you have to use that. - That's exactly what, that's exactly what my doctor said. - Yeah, that's like, okay, well. - I felt pressured. I felt pressured to get on my control. - She did feel pressured. - I felt pretty pressured. I was interested. And I didn't want to be on both control. I said, we're just gonna use condoms and track my cycle. And he was like, he said, condoms aren't super effective. Like they can have problems too. I'm like, we're pretty rigorous. Like we, I mean, it was only like seven months that we tracked and we didn't get pregnant. But I'm like, I'm type A. Like I can make sure this doesn't happen. - Has any Trojan would probably fight him on that? They said 99.9% effective. - You just have to use them. - Yeah, to use them. We will. - And put them on. (laughs) - Yeah, I don't know if it's interesting. I didn't really say that. - I didn't really say that. The first time I was, when I was like casual about it, they were like, no, you need to be in control. - I do wonder if like, you had complications. You had a C-section with your first. - Yeah. - And so I wonder if that conversation changes a little bit. Like I had a natural labor. Not, is that right? Not natural. Vaginal delivery. - Yeah. - I was too that time. And she was like, you can get pregnant. - Okay, 'cause I was like, I feel like he was pressured me, but it probably would have been more if I had a C-section. - Yeah. - I mean, I'm sure they see so many. I always get the doctors to benefit the dial. I'm like, they see everything under the sun. So I'm like, and they're head, they're probably like, yeah, they're gonna say they're gonna need comments, but I'll see them here in six weeks. You know what I mean? - When they, my doctor, when I went in for my six week checkup and he's like, mm, didn't heal properly. I need to colorize this. Like, he did some stuff. He's like, wait another two weeks and then come back in. Like, sorry. - Yeah. - No activity. Like, can I work out though? He's like, yeah. So I'm like, that's all I care about. - That's all I care about. - I come back and he's like, so did it hurt, like did it, I'm like, did what hurt? He's like, I'm like, I didn't do, I didn't do it. - I follow the rules. He's like, wow, most people don't. I'm like, I would never go to school. - I would never go to school. - What do you mean? - I would go get my doctor's orders. - It was so funny when he was like, he was taking it back. - Oh my god. - I'm like, listen to his rules and I didn't have sex for two weeks. See, that's like, I don't want to. - I do feel sometimes like, I feel like I've viewed birth control so differently now in this season of my life than I do then. Like, I'm all for family planning and like, using birth control condoms, all these things, when you are like, you know, actively with your husband and your spouse, like, trying not to, you're trying to prevent pregnancy, when your guys are not ready or prepared. You think I look back and I'm like, dang, going on it so young at 17. Now, I did have the factor of like wanting to be sexually active. So, that was, you know, that was a different thing. But like, for managing periods of times like, dang, if only I had gone back and I looked at lifestyle and given myself time and just like, been educated, maybe on my cycle, more so than just like, slapping a bandaid on something and never actually learning, because now I'm 30 and I'm learning all these things that I wish I would have known at 15 when I went through puberty and like, I know my mom didn't know these. You know, we were just never educated on like, how our bodies worked. And so sometimes I get like frustrated when I hear from my friends or different peers or hear these things on podcasts and I'm like, dang, like, they were just so quick to throw us on the pill sometimes at like such a young age. And I feel like that really was our generation. Like, I knew it was crazy to me when I met people for the first time that were not on birth control. Like, what do you mean you're not on birth control? Like, you didn't go on after your acne, you didn't go on it for your cramps. 33% went on to manage their period symptoms. Yeah, that's their first initial reason. Right. So I think to me sometimes I'm like, dang, that's like, I don't know. Maybe I've just become in crunchier as I'm getting older, but. And also, I do think like, being married and also in our years, are we like, wanted to have babies? Yeah. It makes that necessity for preventing pregnancy, like that's like lower, you know? So like, even though we had a quote unquote, unplanetary, we did, you know what I mean? Yeah, we were still. But we knew we wanted more children. Yeah. And like, we were also married and like, we'd already had babies together. Yeah, it was like, we were okay with the risk. We were okay with that risk. And like, we certainly took it and then, oh, okay. And then we weren't okay with that risk. We did a different option. Right. And so it's just like, you always have to just re-evaluate your lifestyle. Like, or your life stage, like that you're in. Yeah. That also just like led me to think like, okay, well, what does this look like? Like once we feel like our family is complete, but I'm still having my cycle. And so we've already started having those conversations just because we're not done having kids. Yeah. But like, it's part, we're good. I mean, this will be our third baby, like, we'll, we're starting to like prepare for that stage. And so, yeah, those like look differently than I might have thought they would have looked before starting all of our family planning journey. Yeah. For sure. Totally. Yeah. It's just, I think too, like being in this season of life, I do have friends that like struggle with infertility or struggle with PCOS and I mean, like just some of these things and I'm like, this is where I get the mixed feelings about the pill because I'm like, or like birth control. I'm like, it obviously is done so many, it's so good for so many reasons, but then they're obviously like these hard parts of it where I'm like, man, I had friends that probably went on birth control at 17 because they had cramps. And then 10 years later, they want to start their family and they go off the pill and then they can't get pregnant. And they realize like, I have what, I have PCOS that went undiagnosed for 10 years and now my ovaries are like so inflamed and it, you know, it's just like these different things. And I'm like, I just, I'm not more so mad at like the medicine as much as I am maybe just that like that women aren't educated on these things. Totally. And I think that's also something that I've really enjoyed listening in this podcast to reference back to that, but I'm glad that the conversations are shifting a little bit more away from that and like, hey, let's, I don't know, the conversation around women's health is so tricky and there's so many holes in it. I just, it just got so one size fits all, we all were like searching for an answer that was so incredibly nuanced to our own body. Yes. And then it's like, okay, well, and I know that that's what they have to do, right, in medicine, but I do wish that there was more resources when we were like younger for like, oh, wait, let me try this first or try this first. Because like for boys, they weren't putting them on some time of hormonal pill because of their acting. No, like, like, let's give you all the talkables, like your girl, we know what to try. We know what to do. Yeah, your girl. Birth control baby. Yeah. And so it was like, maybe that wasn't the cause and so yeah, I also just wish that men knew more about, I'm like, I can't blame them. I didn't know what was going on in my own body. I knew nothing. But it should be more of a universal conversation because family planning takes two, yeah, it's a zango, make a baby. And so I think it would also just do everyone a lot of, do everyone a lot of good. Yeah. Totally. And I pro coming up with a male birth control, I'll put my donation, I'll put my donation forward. It was a lot easy to change their little swimmers than to change our entire daily cycle. That's different. Every single day of the month. That was so crazy to me. Okay. In the podcast, they said 50% of infertility is male source and 50% is female for it, sourced. That's crazy. I didn't realize so there were such high levels of male infertility because I've never heard it. Because the first resort is always just going to the woman. Yeah. But also, like, guys, guys, just don't talk about it. I know one guy, well, you have one friend that they was like the infertility that they were experiencing was on his side, but it took a long time to figure that out because they had, they did a million tests on the woman first. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, I guess, last resort, I wonder about your 50% of this small game. And the easiest to test, actually. I feel like that should be first. It's the easiest to test. It's so weird. And they can't treat it as, well, I think it's weird that I'm not thinking about that. I'm thinking about the fact that, like, for women, our tests are so different. The guys, they have to give their sperm. And we can say it. It's ease, baby. It's a fall. No. Oh yeah. Cheers. Oh my god. Take it back to Genesis. - That is the point. - How he could say it's the point. (laughing) - Jizz. (laughing) - Yeah, you're right. - Wow, it's too totally different. - I think it's harder for them to figure out. Like if they don't have quality sperm, I don't think that they can really like, there's much that they can do to fix that. - What, I feel like men is the easiest to fix. 'Cause they're reju. You can change one thing in a man. They could stock one as saunas and rejuvenate their sperm in 90 days. - I guess if that's the problem, but usually from what I know, I know it's very little. If it's a fertility issue on the male part, there's very little they can do to fix it. - No, I don't think that's true. That's not what the lady said. She said, the lady in this podcast said, in no other area of like, no woman's area of woman's health, can you change one lifestyle factor and completely change? - I guess if it's a lifestyle factor. But if it's like, they don't have quality sperm, they can't make it good quality. - Really, but I feel like if you change your lifestyle, it would be good quality, no? - Most male infertility comes down to sperm quality evaluated by count, motility, how well they swim, and morphology, shape and structure. - Often easier to address lifestyle factors, nutrition deficiencies, hormonal imbalances infections, more difficult to address is a zoospermia, which is no sperm when they ejaculate. - So they have no sperm obviously. - Yeah, this person has really low, but they can still ejaculate it. - Sure, there's no sperm in it. - Or this was that they had a sperm-shape abnormality, so they couldn't change that. - Not correctable, those sperm can sometimes be, this is genetic causes, can sometimes be still be retrieved for IVA. - Yeah, that's cool, but just depends. - Okay, interesting, thank you Addy for that. That makes sense. Okay, but very interesting. - Yeah, and I've also heard of a lot of men with low sperm count. - Yeah. - So, if that can happen, I'm just surprised by that, 'cause no men ever talk about it. - No. - Yeah, but that is, I mean, that's probably embarrassing. - They need a man to man do it. - Yeah, we need to get rid of the stigma for the men's. - Yes, for the men's, yeah. - We'll move to Patreon to talk a little bit more about our future plans for birth control, family planning, how we see this going in the future. - Yeah. - We'll our man's get the snip. (laughing) - Oh, and yeah, and then we'll hop back over here for always hungry, voicemails, all that good stuff. So, we'll contain this conversation on Patreon. - Woo-hoo. - Ask, ask, ask, Abby. - Okay, you guys, it is time for our voicemail segment of our podcast, Ask Abby's. If you guys want to call in and leave a voicemail, we love hearing from you guys. And honestly, just love hearing your guys' voice. 602-456-9690 is the number, and leave your questions for Abby, for us. Anything, it can be questions for us or advice. We love, we love your guys' input. - Hi, Abby, this is also Abby. I love hearing you guys talk about your favorite recipes each week, but I'd love to hear about the other side of the story. I love to experiment in a kitchen, and let's just say it can end badly. So my question is, what are your biggest cooking or baking disasters of the podcast? Bye. - Hi, I'm pretty sure I shared this where I read it on the podcast, but I made this like Mexican quinoa casserole a couple times and was like, oh, it's good. They already tell the story. - You did wait till it again. - Okay, well, I was like, it's been a hit in the past, so yeah, me so good. And I made it differently instead of using a taco seasoning packet, I'm pretty sure I used a chili seasoning packet 'cause that's all I had, which is very different. And I added a too much cumin. And then I doubled it, which also takes more seasoning. And I packed it up and I brought it to a family that I had never met, but was Caleb's friend that had just had their fourth baby. And so then I'd get to their house late, pretty late, 'cause I was running behind. - I'm fine. - Yeah, I felt really bad dropping off a late dinner to them. We get home, we open up our second one. Caleb goes, this tastes horrible. - And it tasted so bad. That was so embarrassing. I felt terrible on my poor children profusely apologize. Yeah, I was really bad. So that was really horrible. - Were they like, no, it's good. - No, I don't think they lied. I don't think he had tried it. I don't think he had tried it, but I don't eat it. Yeah, just don't eat it. Please, please. And then another time I made like a chicken sausage saying for ourselves at home, it was really gross and really weird. I wish I had more details, but I just never think. - Oh, it was a chicken sausage soup. It was really weird. - What does that say? - You're just freestyling more than I do. - I actually hate, sorry guys, actually hate falling a recipe. (laughing) - No. - I always do like, follow recipe for the first time. And then after that, I'm always free-balling it after. And I make my own changes to a recipe, but I'm so like, I like being in the kitchen and just floating around and seeing what comes. I like falling recipes are really stressful sometimes. - I don't wanna freeze-dial it. (laughing) - Yeah, this one I just remember because this was when Matt and I first got married and I was like just trying everything new. And we were also in school, so I like put a lot of crock-pot ones 'cause I would like come home. And this is when I'm like, we were in that newlywed stage where it's like, it's just so cool that we're living together and that I'm making him meals. Like I'm like, this is just a fantasy world. Like this is so fun. And then I'm like, he's gonna love everything I make. And I quickly found out that my husband is very honest and I do really appreciate that. - Yeah. - But this was one of those moments where I was like, "Oh, that's nice." - I made and I don't even know why I did this. Some type of, what do they call sweet and sour sauce? It's like they have a name for it with meatballs. Oh my gosh. It was like, I'm gonna have to ask Matt Cung Poh. - It was something like that. I wanna say it was like yin-yin. - You know, it's weird. - It sounded like Matt. - Yeah, yeah. And it was probably just like the widest recipe ever. - Yeah. - Clearly, Hagrid jelly in it. - Yeah. - And I, yeah, we both ate it. And I was like, you know, it's not terrible 'cause I'm also not that picky. And then Matt was, I was like, do you like it? And he was like, mm-hmm. And I was like, okay, well, I know you're lying. And he was like, yeah, I don't like it. It's really bad. Never make this again. It's really bad. And I started throwing up a ton that night. I had to go to the urgent care. - Was it both a belated? - Unrelated. - Or Hawaii meatballs? Or Jewish sweet and sour meatballs? - No. - No, what would you-- - Who's you? - No. (laughing) - Who's you, who's you, who's you, who's you from Mulan? - I have to ask Matt. - This is, this is, what are those sweet meatballs called? Those sweet and sticky party meatballs are commonly called grape jam meatballs. - Yeah, that's, I've never had it. - Now I'm like, was it orange jelly? I need to ask Matt about this. - Oh, wow. - It was yucky. And I started, I had cyclical vomiting. - From the meatballs? - Probably not from the meatballs. I think I was already gonna get sick, but that made the flavor of these meatballs. - So bad. - Really memorable. - Whoo! - I kept experiencing it over and over how to go to the ER and get IV meds to stop vomiting. - That happened with the, you know, the time I've been poisoning. (laughing) - Oh. - Oh. - Yeah, that was really bad. And I've also made one time. I made a recipe over and over and over again. It was that chicken stew for me, ambitious kitchen. - Yeah. - It's so good. I made it bad one time. - I made it bad twice, Abby. - What is the way-- - What do you guys make of that recipe? - There's something very, there's something very sensitive about that one. - Because you've made, we both made it good. I made it good. - It was delicious. - Yes. - I made it great like two or three times. - Yes. - And then I made it bad one time. - Yes. - And I could never make it again. - Whoa. - Because it was so bad. - And I made it for a group. And I was like, I made it for you. - I made it for you guys the time I made it bad. - Yeah. - You guys were like, something's different. I was so excited because it was so delicious and time you made it before. You made it for me twice. - Let's see. - Once good, once bad. - I was like, well let me try it, made it once good twice bad. - What's up with that recipe? - I don't know because her recipe is always slapped in that. - And it was really bad. Like it's like, it has like a little cream element to it and it was like splitted. - It was bad. - And it was like a separating. - Separating. And it was, that freaky. It was just actually so freaky. - So bad. - Yeah. - And it has wine in it. So I felt like I was like. - Can't see. - It's fancy and elevating. - Totally. - Blip blip. - Yeah. - How did you say to Addy? I was wondering what is a life hack that you so wear by like for me. When I do my suspect ponytail, I use like conditioner instead of hair gel because it wasn't that really easy and it looks the same. And I was wondering what your life hack is. So yeah, I love the pun. - What a hack with the slick back. - I've heard people doing that with hair masks. - Really. Okay, I should try that. So my life hack, if I'm gonna stick to the beauty wrong 'cause you inspired me, I use hair gel on my eyebrows. - Negotiations, huh? - No, it's my fancy. - Okay, cut that. - Yeah, I use just my trust in my hair gel and I have an old spoolie brush and 'cause I don't like pigment necessarily on my eyebrows 'cause my eyebrows are so dark and I just go in with the hair gel and they're pretty much day all day. - That's great. - Yeah. - That's essentially-- - That's my hack. - It's hair. - It stays up. - That's a good hack. - I don't know if I have any hack. - You have a sourdough too, Patrick? - A sourdough hack. No, also sourdough after reading yesterday here. I feel like a fraud making sourdough. I can't wait to read this book. I'm like, I put my sourdough in the fridge but I don't want to use it. That's my hack, and if you don't want to use it, you can just put it in the fridge. People back in the day didn't have that luxury. But I love my fridge. What's my hack, what's my hack, what's my hack? Oh, well, I guess if we're thinking about food groceries, I think whenever you do, first of all, I get my groceries delivered because I do feel like that's a hack for me not to just spend and go willy nilly, go get whatever, just get crazy. And then also whenever I buy groceries, I plan four dinners out of it at least. So then you're not going in store every day because that's what I would do otherwise. And then I would spend a lot more too. I would be very curious if we did a whole segment just on how you plan your grocery, how you plan your meals because I could learn. (laughs) If you go to the grocery store every day? No, not every day but I just buy things and I'm like, what's I'm feeling today? But I should probably be a little bit more, I should be more tactful about it because, yeah, the budget usually is like, that's the one area of the budget I usually am like, wow. And that's really, really literal about for some reason. I need to have meals before I order. And it's wasteful how I do it for sure. But I can't think of, I don't cook, okay, dinner most of the time. So but I can't think ahead of what he wants. Like he's like, I don't know, just get chicken and ground beef and we'll figure it out. But yeah. Then we have chicken and ground beef all week and we never have like a, yes, meal, but not like, there's no crack pot rest for it. There's no sheet pan things. There's no, it's chicken and a potato every day. I have a whole process for it that it makes it feel very, like I don't wanna make a decision at the end of the day. When we're done with like work, I wanna just like know what I'm having and I wanna just go make it and I wanna always tell me next week is gonna be Abbi's go tells us about her holiday. I actually do have a very streamer. I wanna know. I'm a little literal about this guy. Yeah, I think we do it. That's, that'll be next week's, one of our always hungry mix up. Okay, I'm excited for that. The last question. - Hi, Abbi, Abbi and Abbi. I love the show. Love listening to you guys. My son listens with us sometimes and he goes, wow, that's crazy. Anyways, what is the best toy for kids that you guys love and toys that you do not love and would not want to gift to anybody? Thank you. - I love magnetiles. I think they are the absolute best. - They are amazing. They're very durable. They don't make a big mess. They're easy to put away. You can keep going deeper with them. Just keep asking family members for new packs of them and my kids never get sick of them. Like Griffin will go sit in his room during his quiet time and build zoos. - Yeah. - It's very imaginative, very hands on. I just can't say I love magnetiles and I actually very, very strict about only buying magnetiles. - Yeah. Don't buy a dupe. I'm serious about this one. Don't buy a dupe. - I love that they say on it for ages like two to 99. - Because they're fun for me too. - I like to live with them. - And there's also so many realms you can go with it. So at one time I got a big thing of paper and you actually my friend did this for us and they make, she made shapes that they had to fill in with the magnetiles and they stuck together and they made numbers and they made, and my kids just sat there and they wipe it clean. They do it again. - And it was like, there's just so many things you can do with them. - That's a lot of bang for your buck with magnetiles. - I would agree, that's a great choice. - I just, I hate sand. - I don't wanna see, I'm such an experience. - You love sand. - Kinetic sand. And here's the thing, I love Kinetic sand. I think it's so fun. I won't be buying it again for a couple of years because my dog has eaten two pounds of it in the last. I don't understand how your kids don't make a mess of it. - No he does, but actually, this is how you guys, okay, this is so goofy. I've just been letting such ages kind of free ball it with the Kinetic sand. I was like, wow, this is really messy. I see a parents don't like this. Our babysitter who's in high school, I came home one day and she had the Kinetic sand in like a cookie sheet pan. And I was like, that's too freaking smart. - You put it on the ground. - Yeah. - I would just let it get put on the table, on the ground, in this toilet. - Oh yeah, I was keeping it in a tupperware. - I would dog me and we could do it everywhere. - It's not keeping it contained. And I was like, man, my high school babysitter smarter than me. Most people put them in those sensory bins, you know what I see? And even they were getting everywhere. So I was like, we gotta get rid of this. - Yeah, I see just pretty like contained with it. Now that he has a spot to contain it, he's like pretty good at keeping it in there. But our dog just eats it like. - Yeah, I was gonna say any rubber toys are just banned from our house. Don't buy us bath toys, don't buy us anything that's like rubber and can squeeze the dogs with them. They're not allowed in our home. - Yeah, a toy that I also do love, this is necessarily a toy. But we have this really amazing like pool in our backyard. It's a big little pool. - It's a big little pool. And it's from Amazon, it's like 30 bucks and it folds up so it's so easy to store. It has not gone any mold. I like drain it. I'll let it air dry in the sun for like a day or two and then I'll fold it up and put it in our shed. And it's so nice. And it's big and C2 plays in almost every day right now. - A water table is also great. Our kids still love a water table and it's like for babies. They've had it since they were babies and they still love it. They do get in it. And I think they're gonna tip it. - See that's me, yeah that seems scary. But it's fine. - It is scary. I'm like, yeah. - I never got the water table. They get in it together. (laughing) - I really would like that. - I'm like, just get in it in the grass. On the Travertine where you're gonna crack your skull. - You're gonna crack your head. I've never got the water table 'cause the mold component of it kind of freaks me out. - We've never done mold in our water table. - You drain it a lot? - Yeah, after they use it. - Every time. - Okay, just shh. - That's what's easy to drain? - Super easy. - It's just a plug at the bottom. - Of course she does miss enough. - It's pretty, it's educational too 'cause they could put water in the top and they see it fall down. - That's fun. - It spins the thing. - Cute. - And this is how we fill it up. I have Matt go and dunk it in the pool. - That's funny. - Probably also why it's not getting old. There's chlorine in it. (laughing) - That's the thing. (laughing) - Blake, earn up Blake. Brielle really likes her. - She has a Miss Rachel puzzle. - It could be any kind of puzzle, honestly, but it sings to her when she takes the pieces out. - Yeah. - So she really likes it. And that, she learned how to grab the pieces. So she also learned how to do it. - There's some about her voice. Every kid is just, she pops. - She has a grip on the toilet. - She barely ever watches it, but she is locked in. If there's something like I need to focus for something and I'm like. - No, he still loves Miss Rachel. - And it's really sweet. - 'Cause he loves Darth Vader and Miss Rachel. - That is true. - Those are his two personalities. - So sweet, tender, and really scary. - And then bad guys. - Bad guys. (laughing) - Yeah, like he'll like, look at me, he's like. - Yeah. - And I'm like, oh no. - No, no, no. - Yeah, I think he's like, stream on both sides. Like, he's just, he loves that. - He's passionate. - He's passionate. - He's passionate. - He's always hungry. - That's a great way to passionate. - I literally think, I tell him that all the time, I'm like, oh yeah, I love your passion. - It is. - That's so true. - Oh, always hungry, I have a pool dip. - Oh, I mean that. - For Memorial Day, it's a healthy pool dip. And you know what, this is something I need to take back. - What? - It has cottage cheese in it. - Shoot, I mean, it was very good. - It was very good because you blend it. So it doesn't have the hurdles. You blend the cottage cheese, Abby. - I did that one time and it was so messy. - Why? - And it just kinda got like grainy and gritty. Did it not? - No. - There's not that much cottage cheese in it. - It's mostly Greek yogurt. I don't think it was grainy or gritty. Did you think it was grainy or gritty? - It tastes, it is primarily Greek yogurt and cottage cheese. But then you put ranch seasoning and taco seasoning and rotel, like the green chilies and tomatoes. - Yeah. - And it was a good little taco pool dip. It was very light. So I would say get some flavored chips for it. Like get corn chips. I thought this would be amazing with those low-titched chips. - Full of sugar. - 'Cause it's like real, it cuts the spice, but I like love the flavor of those chips. And it's very high protein. - I like that. I like that. - I like that. - It's really good. - Okay, I'll eat it. It makes a lot, so maybe cut it in half. If you're unless you're gonna go crazy. - Big party, big party. - Yeah. My recipe is a lasagna soup. My friend Carly actually made this for us for postpartum when we had our meal trained and it was so good. And they brought all the toppings. They had ricotta cheese and the parmesan. It was so good and filling and yummy. And I love a tomato-based soup. - I made it definitely dinner when we, I don't think you were-- - I love lasagna soup. No, I don't think I've had your lasagna soup. - I don't think you were there either. - Oh, no. - It was just all for my parents and grandma. - Thank you. - But I was really good. I loved it. - I never made it before and I never had it before. But I remember someone saying they love lasagna soup. And I was like, "That's gotta be easy." - But I really like it for some reason. - I don't know. - I like it because I don't love lasagna because it's so heavy, but the soup is just lighter enough. But it tastes exactly like lasagna, but it's not as heavy. - That's my recipe next week is my girl proposal. Sorry, you don't like it, but I like it. - Wait, I have a weird idea. What would happen if you took old pasta, like an old pasta that you've already made, like a bake? And then you're like, "This isn't good anymore." And then just like making a soup? - Make a soup. - Is that possible? I'm gonna look her up 'cause we have old pasta. - It's okay. - Oh, we made it like two days ago, but Blake made it right, like Blake's parents invited us to go get ice cream. We had it eaten dinner yet. Blake was making a pasta, baked pasta. So we just, you got done. We went, got Andy's, we came home. Either of us, we just had this like amazing, but why don't you just heat it now? - We've been heating it up, but it's, we both are like, it's not that good. - So maybe you just throw some broth in it [BLANK_AUDIO] - Yeah. - Blend it up a little bit. - The chance to see what happens. - Hey, where's Shaft? Did Verdi count it or lost count it? - Exactly, I would eat it for a while. - I could turn it into a suit. - Yeah, honestly. - Make it a suit, make it a suit, let us know. - We're back on Monday. - We're back on Monday personally. - That's not good. - I love it. - Well you guys, thank you so much for listening. Is that, oh my God. - Yeah. - We have a review to read. We're so thankful to those of you that Ray Urshou highly give us reviews. Like, share, heart. - Heart. - Hello. - Follow, subscribe. - Hi, good up. - Hi, good up. - Hi, babe. - All those things were real, it really means so much. And this user, J-R-F, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5 says, five stars from podcast to friends. 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