A Brendan Sorsby Supplemental Draft PSA. Plus, Scouting LaNorris Sellers.

It's part two of building the board, 2027 quarterback class, and today features Brendan Soresby versus Lenora Sellers. But not before we get to the breaking news on Soresby and the supplemental draft, just 309 days until the NFL draft match, you good? I'm great, man. Well, that beat took. If you're tuning into this show, you probably have an understanding and a little bit of background on what's gone on with Brendan Soresby. Transverse from Cincinnati to Texas Tech, NCAA after gambling allegations and in middle to gambling, and going into rehab for gambling addiction, NCAA rules him ineligible. He finds a local court to basically get an injunction to allow him to play, and then the big 12 threatens with a heavy hammer behind it and its legal team to appeal that and to basically attack him for that ruling and to prevent him from playing. They take it seriously. Soresby and his team and wind up pulling back on their claims and their ability to allow Soresby to play. And by removing that suit, they they wind up saying, all right, next step is we've got till January to June 22nd to get a, you know, our petition into the NFL for the supplemental draft. He files it, doesn't go well. Stunning news. It's stunning news. Now, there was writing on the wall, like I even put a call into the league office and it was crickets. And so I should have taken the, the potential for the NFL to essentially deny his petition more seriously, but nobody else did. So I was kind of following the, the, the breadcrumbs of this is kind of a, I don't know, it's a given that the league will hold its supplemental draft for the first time in three years. And, and maybe we'll have the first player drafted since 2019 in the supplemental draft. That all falls apart. And if you haven't read it, I'm not going to read the whole, the, the, the letter from the NFL, basically denying the petition and, and claiming that the NFL, they're stating that the NFL is not going to have a supplemental draft. If you haven't read it, you can find it. It's all over the social media from, from our good friend Albert Breer, good friend Adam Schefter, Ian Rappaport, anyone you want to go read with the NFL said, I'm going to throw it to you, Mitch. What are your thoughts on this situation initially before and I do want to remind we're going to get to the breakdown of sellers versus stores, be two similar prospects in terms of rawness areas that need to improve, but unbelievable talent. That's what the, the, the, the meat of this show is going to be today, but this is breaking news. I mean, it would got to the point, Steve, where there was, there was already a pro day set. Yeah. It was going to be July 10th. Like, everyone was assuming that this was going to happen. He was going to be in the supplemental draft that was, that was estimated to be held somewhere mid-delay July. And now all of a sudden this news breaks and we're all left like, whew. You know, so, so what now? What are your initial thoughts, bud? I mean, this sucks. I mean, that's my initial thought. Like, it just, just to be blunt about it, this sucks. I'll say this, Brennan source, we put himself in this situation and there has to be accountability and I understand that. At the same time, what is this going to look like long term? Now we're taking this guy out of football for a year. What's that going to do in terms of how it affects him? I also want people to keep in mind, keep in mind that when this happened, when the bulk of this was happening, this young man was 18 years old. If you have not spent time with an 18 year old recently, understand that these are kids, children. This is not a fully formed adult who is making rational decisions. Again, not saying he shouldn't be held accountable, but some of this, you know, I heard a clip of maybe he's not going to, no one's going to look into him in 2027 after this. I don't understand. I mean, the punishment has to fit the crime. I think there's an argument. This might be too harsh. Part of the problem is the timeline is so condensed. We don't know exactly what happened and when it happened. And that's a big issue here. Also, the NFL is just going to NFL. And some of this seems a little fishy to me of, Oh, well, you didn't include any documentation. Well, did you ask for any? Were they supposed to? Did players in the past provide that kind of a documentation? If his team didn't know that, that's terrible on their part. They should have been prepared for that. But now you have a young man who's got nowhere to play football next year, has no home. It's going to have a lot of free time. I, it's, I get it. I understand. There's got to be accountability. But like I said, from the top, this sucks. It does suck. It does suck. And, and I, I understand the argument of, well, there's a lot of human beings or individuals in the NFL or entering the NFL that have done a lot, quote unquote, worse. And, and the, does the crime fit the punishment compared to some of those other crimes and what the punishment winds up being. I know this from 20 plus years of doing this and talking to league sources. And the, the NFL, all, all major sports leagues have drawn a, a very, there's everyone saying a bright line, a, a very thick line in the sand on when it comes to gambling. And, and I'll get to in a minute, like, I get it. There's a lot of things that sores be can, sores be in his team can, can push back on. And I also want, I do think it's important to say this. I'm not overlooking the fact that other people do worse things. I do think it's important to state, the league has, has very clearly made a stance that with all other things that are punish, punishable legally, they, they wait for those legal, typically legal ramifications to occur, do process. And then they respond with additional punishment within the league and what they can do. You know, basically a business misconduct, right? And, in addition to whatever happens in, in the court of law, this is not because gambling is legalized. And, and the NFL is now in bed with, with gambling. And there's a whole, there's a whole podcast to do on that. We're not going to do that. That's not our show. They become the, the judge and jury here, right? They, the league has to be the final say. And it's critical, more critical now than ever, right? To, to make sure that, that an example is made, okay? You know me, Mitch. I'm, I'm not big on PSAs, right? Public service announcements. When I make them, I do, I take it very seriously and I do with a lot of background and I make sure I've talked to everyone involved, not everyone, everyone involved that, that potentially has a say and has enough background to try to help. I don't do it to come out and cut people, attack people. I do it because I'm trying to, because of my connections and what we've built here over 25, 26 years, I, I do it because I'm, I'm trying to get a message across and I don't do it very often. And I'm not perfect. I, I tried to tell Trinidad to chambles, I'd be careful. Don't, I wouldn't push it, man, because what, what happens is you wind up missing the combine, you wind up missing the senior bowl, all of a sudden, you know, everyone in old miss is telling you, hey, we're going to take care of this and we're going to get you back on the field. And what happens if they don't, all of a sudden, you're, you're sitting without a chair in the musical chair games, musical chairs game. And it worked out, but he, he was inches away from it, not. And we'll see if it really worked out in the long run with what he, where he could have been drafted last year. Now, how does he play this quarterback class versus last year's quarterback class, all those things. But I also gave some PSA to Penn State fans and, and basically the, the program on the, on the James Franklin and what's going on there, feel pretty good about that. Brian Kelly with LSU situation going on there. Should you have standards in that situation. So the track record's not, not, it's pretty good. And that's, that's not even concluding the 20 years of the ESPN when I pick my spots. And so I, I do have a PSA for, for Brendan Soresby today. And, and it's important that he, whether it's me or somebody else with the same message that he starts to listen and opens his eyes to what's really going on. So why am I going to take time on the show and do this? It's because I want Brendan Soresby and his team to, to hear it. Okay. I want his team to realize I don't have an agenda. I might know what I'm talking about though when I say the following. Take your punishment. It's like the black mask quote, like take the money, take the money. It's the same thing. The NFL made it perfectly clear in its letter that went public in the last 24 hours. You can argue the inconsistency with their rulings. You can argue deadlines and procedures. And quite frankly, I think Brendan Soresby has a decent case against the NFL, excluding him for mentoring the NFL via the supplemental draft. But it doesn't matter. The league has spoken. Take your medicine. You made the mistake. It was your actions that got you in this spot. It doesn't matter how embedded the league is with gambling. It doesn't matter how strong a legal case you think you have against the NFL. The league is making an example of you. Fair or not fair. Your cleanest path to the NFL, Brendan, is to deal with your gambling addiction. Prepare yourself for next April's draft. Stay out of trouble. Stay out of headlines. Get in the best shape of your life. Continue to master your craft. Whatever route you decide to take from pre-draft training to working with an X NFL quarterback, not dissimilar from what Fernando Mendoza did with Brian Greacy. Get with someone who can help you. Get the help you need with your addiction. Get with someone who's been through the NFL at the quarterback position. Can help you in the mental aspect of the game. Get with someone who can help you drill home your mechanics that need work. You're so damn talented, man. You're so talented. You are a first-round talent physically, but you're not there yet. You're not there emotionally. You're not there maturity-wise. You're not there mechanically. Focus on what you can control now. Collusion's a big word. It's also an accusation. Nobody is making an accusation, including and especially myself. But don't allow yourself to become the next example of a league makes with an unspoken punishment, okay? College football is vulnerable. There are loopholes and you almost exploited one. The NCAA is weak. The NFL is not, bro. In some ways, the NFL is big pharma. In some ways, the NFL is big tobacco. We should also want to stand up. We all should. Want to stand up to big pharma and big tobacco. When there are two strong legs to stand on, when you're on the right side. And I'm not saying you're on the wrong side, but unfortunately because of your actions, you'd be limping in on one hobbled leg. That's not going to get it done against the NFL. I'm reading and I'm seeing what your team is saying and we're going to fight this and all the reasons why you're right, stop. Again, the league has spoken. And the NFL rarely stands down when it's trying to make an example of someone in some situation. Maurice Claret, Mike Williams, Colin Kaepernick and beyond, don't be the next name on that list, bud. Don't. You're 22 years old. I get it. I made some dumb decisions when I was 18 through 22. Still make him every once in a while. And prove to the league that you were a young man who made some young man decisions, some young man mistakes. More importantly, prove to the league that you accept your responsibility and that you're working diligently to become a grown man. It's time to be a grown man. Grown men take accountability, show contrition, do some work on yourself, actually reflect. The next time you make headlines, speak for yourself. Make it your voice, show an understanding of what you did wrong. That's what the adults at the table want to see. And the NFL made that perfectly clear in its letter to you. And it's not by accident that that letter leaked and the media reported it even before you found out. So take this time. Get your mind right. Work on your addiction. Get your body in peak shape and take your medicine. If you do all those things, you'll be an NFL player in 10 months. You can put all of this behind you. You can learn some valuable lessons. Hopefully you learn some of those lessons. Hopefully you can work on some of your personal issues. Hopefully you can get yourself ready to be the best version of Brennan Soresby when the league welcomes you with open arms next April. That's my PSA. That's my hope for Brennan. And hopefully he and his team, when they watch us at some point, we'll take that appropriately and with understanding that I really come from a good place when I say all that. And I also have a lot of background knowledge now that I didn't have 18 hours ago to say all those things. I'm with you. And for those who might be calling for more, I mean, just realize that we're talking about loss of what? $6 million. $6 million. In the year of the year with the opportunity to make himself an early first round pick, that opportunity. I think that's a pretty hefty punishment for a guy who right now, and things could change right now. There is no proof that he bet on a game that he played in. That's my understanding is that he did bet on Indiana games when he was there, but he did not play in any of those games. If that changes, I'll feel differently. But with the information we have right now, I feel like that's a pretty hefty punishment, and the leech should be able to move on if he, you know, does exactly. If I was exactly the path you just laid out for him. Yeah, and the tough part is like the CFL calendar doesn't work that well. No, I know everyone's talking about the USFL, and I saw one of the partial owners came out and said, we welcome you with open arms. What's he going to start playing in March during the pre-draft process? And midseason when the draft is held. So I honestly think it's everything I just said, and I don't want to be repetitive. I think unfortunately, it's time that he takes his medicine, that he stands down, doesn't accrue any more leech. I mean, who's paying for all these legal bills? Like those things rack up fast, man. Yeah. So-- Do you think he wills? It's tough. No, he's mind. I don't know, and the interesting part is, and I understand like having gone through some, you know, I went through a divorce. I understand there's certain times you have to stand back and allow the legal process to take place. And I also understand there's certain times where your advice legally, stop talking. We need to do the talking, right? But I think unfortunately, he is 22 years old. And he needs some people in his circle to tell him, next time someone speaks on or about Brendan Soresby, it needs to be you. And it needs to be the right message. And it needs to be authentic, OK? All right, tough transition, man. I mean, it's just like a sharp left turn to like, hey, how is he as a player? And we've done because it's the summer of Soresby. We've done a lot on him. I don't want a short change it, but I also don't want to be overly repetitive for our loyal viewers and listeners. And we appreciate everyone who's watching on Netflix. I love how Netflix is getting our show is up right away now. Like there's a commitment and I appreciate it. And I know Netflix is still building the platform and everything to make this the destination. But our partnership with Netflix has been nothing but wonderful so far. And we appreciate everything they're doing. And it's been a great hope for how this is going to continue to grow. Also, Spotify has like, you know, there are roots. And you can watch us on Spotify. Listen to us in Spotify. Listen to us on Apple, wherever else you get your podcasts. But for those loyal viewers and listeners, I don't want this to be some repetitive show where it's like, yeah, you're already told what's that. But I also want to cover it knowing that there's going to be some new people watching and a refresher. So I think because we're talking about Soresby, I think it's smart to dive in and do it the way that we normally do it. The way we did it with Archon and Dante. And we're going to kind of go through just the way we did. Biggest takeaways, strengths, weaknesses, of ultimately what land on a grade and continue this seven part series that it's going to help us build our board as we enter into the 2026 season and have that quarterback board ready to build off of and do adjust as we see on the field, the changes that occur. But I want to start with this. We've got Brendan Soresby from Cincinnati, Indiana, Cincinnati, Texas Tech. We've got Brendan Soresby who's six, six two and three quarters is what national listed them as 238 pounds estimated 47. And I don't know that I agree with that. I would say he's a little bit faster. Little seller six, the nor sellers listed as 603. Meaning six, three and a half, 245 pounds with an estimated four, five, I saw some four, four stuff there, but we'll get to that too. And I also stood next to him at the Manning Passing Academy last year. And I would, this is like, I don't know what to contain in 603, four, six, three and a half. So regard I was giddy. I was giddy to see that number. Yeah, he's not going to be a Manning Passing Academy, which I'm headed down tomorrow on Thursday morning for a few days and thrilled to get down there, thrilled to share everything I see and doing a lot of social posts. And we'll do a recap next week. And then we'll get right back into it with the 7.5. part series of building the board, the 2027 quarterback class. I love this series that we're doing. And it will continue with CJ Carr and Julian Saiyan, Notre Dame and Ohio State respectively. So let's get to it. Soresby versus sellers. What's your biggest takeaway after you dove into the tape on both of these guys? - My biggest takeaway was the Norris sellers was my number one quarterback going into the 2025 season. And he will at worst be my number two quarter back going in the 2026 season. No offensive Brennan Soresby, it's not even close. And I'll be honest with you, he's ahead of archmaning right now. He is that good. There is, you can get confused by the numbers. Look, they had South Carolina had four wins last year, only one in cost that was Kentucky. I get like when you look at this and you see eight interceptions compared to 13 touchdowns, it's easy to look at some of that production and think wow, man, how in the world could you think this kid's that good? Watch the tape. Watch the tape from two years ago. I feel like I've watched every throw this kid's hat over the last two seasons. I am all in on the Norris sellers. - My biggest takeaway is both of these cats. Soresby and sellers are phenomenally gifted. Both of these cats have some traits that we see when we're talking about like the elites, the Lamars, the Josh Allens, the Mehomes. We're talking about rare air with like arm talent, energy on the ball, athleticism, making guys miss speed, power, all those sorts of things, right? My biggest takeaway is while they both have areas they have to improve upon and we'll get to that in a little bit, sellers areas of improvement that need to occur, it's a clearer path for me when I watch. And the lights are brighter with sellers than Soresby right now. And I say that because both are unbelievably mobile, sellers is more mobile, right? Both make some unbelievable throws. And I would argue that Soresby's on, if you take Soresby's 50 throw highlight, it's actually a little bit better than sellers, but they're both good, I don't know though. Some of the platform, the arm angles, the anticipation on the, there are some throws that I haven't seen from sellers that I saw from Soresby. But as a player overall, sellers is better right now. The debilitating part of all of this is I can see a path where if Soresby was at Texas Tech with the weapons, the NIL, the supporting cast, the defense, all that stuff, that he could have made the big strides he needs to make and could have made it very interesting. Now there is no path and that sucks. And it goes back to your original point, that sucks. And he earned it and he should take his medicine and everything I said, but to see this like this potential, what is a Bronx tale? Worst thing in the world is wasted potential, right? - Right, yeah. - Yeah, so that's where I am, that's my takeaway. I'll get to the grade later at the end, as we will, we're doing this series. To kind of, I don't wanna rebut your QB2 for sellers right now 'cause I do think we're gonna have a really good discussion at the end of this thing. So let's save it for there. - Okay. - But let's just say, I understand and I'm excited to get into it. So let's go here. Biggest strengths for both of these guys, take it wherever you want. - I, listen, they're, again, I absolutely love sellers, but I'm gonna, the biggest strength I think for him is, and they kinda tie together is his compete level, I think it's different when you watch him on tape. He's just the way he competes is unique and then it's impossible to get him on the ground, whether he's scrambling or he's in the pocket. His strength, his base, his lower body, is just so powerful that it allows him to, the velocity on his passes when he throws on time in rhythm, can follow through is incredible. The ability to shake off tacklers again in the pocket. - He is built like a brick shit house, man. - It is different, it is different. And then he has, in addition to it, the one two, the refusal to go down. And sometimes it gets into trouble. We'll get in this little bit later. He tries to do too much. He is Superman. I've said it before. He tries to do too much and gets in certain situations but that being said, you gotta love the way he competes and the way he just wants to make plays. And that's just his greatest strength. I think there's a lot of other positives to this game. For example, something that thinks I don't think people realize how good he can be in the pocket and how accurate he is when his first read is there and he gets the ball out in time and his feet are set correctly. And I think he even got better about getting the second and third read and resetting his feet as the season went. You can look at the, he misses some throws. I understand that. He's a more accurate quarterback than people might think and you throw in a lot of throwaways 'cause he's running for his life. A lot of throws in the face of pressure. When this guy's got time and space in the pocket, I think he's actually a very accurate passer. So I can go on and on for the biggest strength. I, listen man, I'm telling you, I am telling you that he is more, he's adjusted accuracy. The South Carolina 15 drop passes last year on him. He's adjusted accuracy is like 66.8% or something like that. I'm not saying it's his greatest strength. I'm not saying he's Dante Moore. What I am saying is it's not as big of a weakness as people think it is. - All right, we'll get to that in a minute. I think it's wonderful to have a quarterback with one elite trait. Like you need game changing elite trait. You can build on that, right? Sellers has got two and sores be has two. Now, their mobility is a little different. Sellers is a little more ch, ch, ch, ch. Like there's one Texas A and M play late in the first half, I think like 33 seconds left off the top of my head, something like that. He kind of, he climbs, scrambles out, extends the play, fakes that pump fake defenders and he's just a rally. Bang, 10 yards, picks up the first down, keeps it rolling. They don't want to convert into a touchdown but they get a field goal before the half. That turns it to, what was it, 30 to three? I think it was a half of that Texas A and M game which they went on to lose. I see him make more defenders miss and I see more like pure speed. Sores be is fast enough, he's got speed. He really does and he's a damn good effective runner. Like really, really good and extends and has all those things. That's his greatest strength, I think, is his mobility. Yeah, by far right now. Right. But Sores be also has this arm talent to him in the ability to drive the ball and make certain throws. I would argue Sellers, it almost comes easier in terms of just flicking wrist, driving it, you know. I gave, I was, we agree on Sellers. I gave Sellers a one in arm strength and one in mobility. Those like top grades you can give. I actually gave Sores be a two in arm strength. I like the arm strength. There are a couple of times that I wanted to ask you about this. There are times where I'm like, man, that is, that's easy. I mean, that's just easy. Some of his down, look at Utah. Some of the, the deep balls he had in Utah. Yeah, like that last real shot. They were down or gorgeous. He had a real shot. He just flicked it. He had two in that game where I'm like, man, that is, that is fun to watch. And it's on time and receivers running under it. It was, I mean, it doesn't get any better than that as a vertical passer. There are times when he throws underneath it, I feel like the ball hangs for just a split second. And I don't know whether it's him choosing not to drive the ball. In my notes, all right. Is this an arm strength thing or is this just him, him thinking he needs to take something off and he's not putting all he could put into it there? There are times where I think he can get the ball quicker from A to B on some of these intermediate passes that I think gives us a coverage of a chance to recover. And that concerned me a little bit. And so I gave, I ended up giving him a two, but I really did debate it. I wondered if you saw some of the same things or if you, you were just comfortable with it. Honestly, I would give sellers a one and I would give source B a 1.5 if we were allowed. I don't, yeah. Two feels a little bit like, yeah, it's above that. I think it's better than that, but I, like, I clearly think sellers can rip it a little bit better and can do it without, like having a strain or have his base under, you know. So I, I don't disagree in, in that regard. Yeah. Like, like I said, the lights are a little bit brighter when you watch sellers. Like, source B, the thing that I appreciated with source B and there, there were sometimes He had two great plays. - Was it Utah? I forget which game. Yeah, it was two back-to-back places. It was like 11, 49 second quarter. I'm looking at it at like absolutely insane two-play sequence where he rolls to the right, defenders in his face, arm slots off, throws wide receiver open behind the coverage of the leads imperfectly to the sideline. Like that's an anticipation throw when everything's breaking down, changing arm angles, off platform. Then comes back in the next play and throws a teardrop, like teardrop, like God had a little tear that just came down from the clouds and down the left rail, two plays. But then by the way, that's supposed to be a bad tape and it's not great, but there is enough on that Utah tape to be excited about what he can do. When you look at the year that he had, you're like, oh, he got to Utah and he got to Arizona and he got BYU and he didn't play quite as well. And it's well, you throw on the Utah tape and you're some NFL throws there, man. I mean, there is some stuff to be excited about. - Yeah, and unfortunately he had a fumble then after those two plays and gives the ball away and it was kind of a fluke one, right? But the thing that I respect with him is you have all of these like insane big time throws, big time runs and this creativity and typically quarterbacks that have all of that, you think about Lamar coming out, Josh Allen, especially like there's turnovers, there's mistakes, there's critical errors. He didn't have a lot of them. Like 21 big time throws against just three turnover worthy plays, I think it was like PFF, I got that from. And also the pressure to sack ratios outstanding. It was the best, I mentioned this in an earlier show. The best of all these like 12 to 14 quarterbacks that we're gonna talk about in this year's class are in the seven part series. So protecting the ball while also doing all those special things is pretty amazing. Now again, like do you trust his reads and is he getting from one to the next as fast as he should and all those sorts of things and we can get to the weaknesses. But there's something really cool about watching him protecting the ball and not giving the plays away and not being, here it is. Creative, dynamic, explosive without being reckless. That's one part of his game, Brendan Swardsby's games that I really appreciated. And you know what else I love? And I talked to a former NFL head coach about this. Some people obviously, when we have situations like this, I get a lot of text and I think let's call it what it is. I think sometimes it's like, I gotta go on a show, give me, and I know you've done the work. What do you see? And then this one head coach text me and so I gave a kind of a rundown and his response was, I went and watched enough this morning, agree with what you're saying. And the thing that I took away was I would love to coach this guy 'cause he's so damn tough, man. And it's just like you're talking about with sellers with the competitiveness and the field guys, man. Fuck, his sores be tough. - Mm-hmm. - I told you, there's some T-bow stuff in terms of like will to power strength as a runner, which, yeah, how far is that gonna carry you in the league? But it translates in the mental and physical toughness that's required to be a really good quarterback, the NFL, especially one that is gonna rely throughout their career and early in their career more importantly, when they don't have all the answers mentally, you've gotta have a level of toughness, right? And he has that. So let's transition now. Oh, okay, go ahead. No, no, no, go ahead. Are you gonna go into the, are you gonna transition to the negatives here? - Yeah, I like the homework that needs to be done is what we're calling it. Stuff that we wanna see from both of these guys in 2025. Unfortunately, we're not gonna see it from sores be presumably, and let's see the path where it sucks. So where's the homework that needs to be done? Whether it's sores be privately working or sellers with, let's also mention, we've kind of talked a lot about sores to be background. Sellers made the decision to come back to South Carolina. There was a lot of speculation. A lot of money being thrown at him. Miami is one program. - I wanna give him a billion dollars if I was Miami, a billion dollars to get that kind of building. I don't know, I don't know how much money they were giving him, but in a no offense. - Well, there was talk of what, with four plus million for Ty Simpson was the offer. I don't know your official offer, but sellers decides to come back. And so the background on sellers is this. He's entering his fourth year at South Carolina. His first year was 2023. Three games played, zero starts that's considered a red shirt year. Takes over as the starter of the next year, starts all 12 games. Last season, he starts all 12 games that he plays, but gets injured. I think it was late in the first half against LSU. It was an ankle injury. It sits out the acronym game, I wanna say, was the next game on the schedule, and then returns. And you could see, I think it was like, all missed in a couple of games, wasn't quite the same dude was still recovering. But as the season progresses, you get to Texas A&M, you get to the Clemson game. There was one other game, Illinois, the bowl game. I think that was the sequence, but that he was kind of back to form. So this is his third year as a starter, enters the year with 24 starts. This will give him 30 healthy season, minimum 36 starts, and could be inch and closer to 40, which is awesome, right? - Right. - So what I wanna see, and this is where we disagree a little bit, Mitch. - Yeah. - I think he comes in hot. - He does the short to intermediate passer. - The beauty with sellers is though, it's correctable, man. I spend Saturdays with Tate, with like M2, QB, I've spent a lot of time around Dilfer. I've been to a lot of different camps. I've been around this position my whole life, since I'm nine years old. So I can spot, at this point in my career, what's leading to? Like his thing is, he opens too far with his base, okay? Picture it, like, let's do this. Here's my legs, short stride, hips, drive, arm in unison, arm loose, arms the rope behind the motor, that, right? When you over stride as a quarterback and or open up to wide, what happens? Your arm trails. And then so the release point, watching go through the screen, the release point is because the arm's trailing. You're like this, and what happens? Ball goes high. And add to it this, yet to be discovered ability to take a little heat off the fastball. And you combine those two things, and that's what you see it like he had the interception against Texas A&M as well, in the first half. Just came in hot, balls a little high, tipped up. It's a dream, center fielder, free safe, maybe catch the ball. Not that one, bro, maybe you're the receiver catch the ball. Like maybe, that was one of the players I looked at. I was like, he had three interceptions that went off receivers hands, and one was the running back in the flat, not, I mean, it wasn't like he put too much one on too much air, too much slip on that one. I mean, there was a couple times where again, 15 drop passes make the play. I mean, how about you enter, how about you enter half time, 30 to three Texas A&M, I think they were ranked two in the country at that point. Right now all of a sudden, it's 30 to 24. And not, I mean, they just came roaring back and had some big plays. But now it's 30 to 24. You got three or six seconds left. Six seconds left in the third quarter. Third and seven play, you're on your own 41. You got to stem the tide here, man. Part of this game, we talked about it the other day with Arch and with Dante. There are moments in games. There are situations that you have to deliver. Third downs, fourth downs, critical spots, game on the line, red zone, all those situations. This is a third and seventh play from your own 41 and you're feeling everything start to fall apart. This is where I need my quarterback on an easy slant with not a defender within seven yards to take a little heat off of it, get his feet right, put it on him. Doesn't have to be perfect, don't have to just put it on him. Worst case, that completion gets them a fourth and one and they can make a tough decision. Best case leads him, receiver goes and gets a first down. Kind of stem the tide. Now we start the fourth quarter, still up six, we're in their territory, game feels a little bit different. So it's those moments where I, it feels like nitpicking, but it's really not what I say. - That's a fair criticism. - What's the homework for sellers? The homework is, we just got to drill in the mechanics. I promise you Lamar was a meh passer at Louisville. I promise you Josh Allen, for the rifle arm, the mobility, all the stuff, he was so erratic. a passer. I promise you, Jalen Hertz. I didn't know if it was going to work coming out of Alabama, more hopeful coming out of Oklahoma, but he wasn't there. So like, this isn't like, oh, he can't be. You can't improve your accuracy in the NFL, not the National Football League. You'll bike your gang coming up for NFL films as I used to talk about. Like, this is the National Football League. Your footwork has to be right. It's not that. It's not that league anymore. So I see a clear path to him improving, but it's going to come with touch and mechanically drilling it in so that he's able to make these easy throws in these big moments and even in small moments where you can rely on that consistency more. And I believe because I know him through people and the work ethic and the intelligence and the he's going to do everything. Team Captain will probably be a three time team captain. Right. This kid's a leader. I'm going to push back a little bit and then I'll get into what I think is the biggest weakness. I think you're right. I'm not saying that what you're saying is wrong. I would say that he is I think definitively further along mechanically as a passer than those the other guys that you mentioned. Lamar, Josh Jalen, I think he's definitively farther along. Now does he still have ways to go? Absolutely. I understand that. In terms of making big plays in big moments, I would go back to Missouri two years ago when Missouri storming in the fourth quarter comes storming back in Lenore and Missouri's now it's a heavyweight fight to go on back and forth with their burdens making plays from Missouri all sudden they're down with the minute left. It's a 70 yard drive in 47 seconds where he makes every single play on the drive to give his team the win. So we've seen that he can do that. I know it's just so we're clear. I do not question his ability to deliver in moments saying I want to the next step is yeah. There you. Yeah. Yeah. And I hear it. I think we may again, this is nuance here. Oh, I feel a little bit better about it than you probably do. One thing I would say is this it's difficult. I understand you watch the tape in his offensive lines having a hard time blocking South Carolina state at times. And his receivers did drop some balls and Nick Harbors kind of a frustrating guy because he's so talented, but he's not there as a receiver. He's got to stop trying to do everything all the time. He's got to stop being greedy pushing the ball down field in certain situations. Take what's underneath. Don't try to put so much on it. You know, he's always trying to make plays and I love that about him, but it has my good friend Shay would always say your biggest strength can be your biggest weakness. And sometimes I see that with him where he's just trying to do too much and he's got to trust his teammates a little bit more to make plays. He's got to make reads get the ball just throw the ball out of bounds. He does that sometimes, but there's other times where I think he can be quicker about it. Take, you know, live to fight another day. I think he pushes too much at times. How does this translate for the to the league given the different circumstances, right? Let's say sellers makes strides, but maybe isn't like the complete product. Let's say Soresby takes his medicine, does all the right things, gets with the NFL veteran or, you know, a former quarterback really works on him himself personally training, getting right, but doesn't have a more game experience. For each of these guys, how does it translate to the league? What are your expectations when they come into league as early round draft picks? If that's the case with Soresby and we got a lot to sort through between now and then, but sellers is the first round pick. Soresby is a day to pick due to the circumstances. How does it translate? I mean, Soresby, so it's so tough because it's unprecedented and it's going to be we'll know more than obviously than we do now and going though, that was the one benefit of all this will be we're no longer on the condensed timeline. We'll be able to go through and find out exactly what happened when it happened and how teams feel about it. And, you know, I'm sure some teams will feel differently than other teams and that'll give us a good idea of where they go. There's no doubt in my mind as we've been saying all along, the Brent and Soresby can be a starting quarterback in the NFL and a damn good starting quarterback in the NFL. Lenore sellers is a top five pick to me. I mean, he is a franchise quarterback. He is he would have I would have taken him out of over Mendoza last year. I would have taken him over Cam War the year before. And I think he would have been, you know, he would have been writing the mix with the guy that that historic last year before. I think he would have been writing the mix with a lot of those guys too. And it'll be interesting to see how this process unfolds for him. But Lenore sellers is a different cat. He's a different, different dude. To me, he's a top five franchise quarterback. The teams are going to be super excited about getting in their building, whereas Brent Soresby's got some questions and he's not quite developed. And I said, the team should take a chance in the first round on him, the supplemental draft. I've called on that a little bit, but I still think that's true. I think he's a really talented player. Don't get me wrong. Lenore sellers is, is got a chance to be a great one. I don't want to bury the lead here either. And I think one of the, one of the leads for sellers is this is now going to be his third offensive coordinator. The supporting cast has not been the same. This is an arch with that offensive line that's pumping out NFL guys. This is in, this is in Tante, who's who's got all the, you know, Decorian Moore is a freshman, but who's got talented wide receiver who's got a deep running back group. Obviously, Texas is, Texas is got five guys who are coming in, you know, in a two year span, we're going to wind up playing the NFL wide receiver. Yeah, Kenyans to Deek all of that. So that's part of the lead with, with sellers, the other part of the lead that I think is even more importantly, like more important to the conversation is, Sark is coaching archmaning. Will Stein, who became very quickly one of the, the best offensive coordinators and play callers in college football and just took the Kentucky head job has been coaching Dante Moore the last two years as a sitting behind Dylan Gabriel for a year and then as the starter last year. This is now the third coordinator, Kendall Briles will be for Lenora Sellers. So not only is it supporting, what, what do we talk about with NFL guys? Like, how do you best support a quarterback in the NFL? It's play callers, protection and play makers, right? Three piece. So of all these quarterbacks we're talking about, we'll get to CJ Carr, we'll get to Sane, we'll get to Maliava, we'll get to Maliava, we'll, I mean, the list goes on and on. >> Mess to maker, men's. >> Mess to maker, men's hoover, all those guys, we'll get to all. >> Tier yet. >> You could argue the one with the most challenge, the most challenging circumstances with the three P's is Sellers. >> I would agree. >> I'm absolutely, like, I don't know. It's like, we want to college football and everyone's going to be like, this game versus like, I can't wait to see Sellers with another offseason healthy coming into the year with, and the play makers aren't going to be that much better, but there's going to be more, more age and refinement. And to know that he's with an offensive coordinator that has had to, his off, Kendall Briles offenses are averaging like almost 50 points a game. Like, there's going to be some stuff that's made easier for Sellers. And I can't wait to see the difference. And I think we're all hopeful that we're going to see a stark difference, not dissimilar from what we saw with Mendoza going from Cal to Indiana, not dissimilar from maybe Cam Ward going from Washington, and Carnot word, Washington State, and then to Miami, or Jaden Daniels going from Arizona State to his first year at LSU to the finally settling in a second, like all these guys, the benefit of transferring and/or new supporting cast, upgraded supporting cast, this is the shot man. And let's just transition to grade. You're, I'm always going to allow you to be a little bit higher on Sellers than me because you deserve it. But I'm not, I'm not telling you you're wrong. I gave him a 91 to put him with arch, which is saying a lot, man. Yeah. I'm flying down to, I'm flying down to Tibano, Louisiana, and being hosted by Archie Manning, his grandfather and hanging out with the manager, I would never let one, I would never let one, I would never let that play into any evaluation. I'm just saying like, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, you would that situation. No, I would do it. I know you can't, it's not in my, it's not in my DNA. But I'm saying like, I, I see the path for, for Arch. And I'm just as pumped to see. But, but right now, as an evaluator, I'm like, I'm, I'm wide open, man. Show me. I get Cam Coleman, Arch. Now you still got Stark. You kind of got past that first year of like, he's, he's in the next Jesus of Nazareth. I'll make my second Jesus of Nazareth, uh, Cobb in two, in two shows. But like, all of that pressure, like undue, you know, uh, weight on his shoulders. He's kind to put that all behind him. He's playing loose and free. He's got Cam Coleman coming to town. He still gets started. Like, I want to see what that looks like. And I'm pumped to see it. But I'm just as excited because I honestly, like, he's not six, four and a half. And he's not, well, he is about 236 pounds. They're both, they're both so supremely talented. I'm looking at this class right now. And we're just two episodes into the seven part series. And source B is like, now we got to classify him differently. And we got to kind of deal with that situation as it comes. He's supremely talented, but we know all the things that could go on all the concerns. We might not see source B. And I'm not saying because of suspension, we might not see source B play any meaningful NFL time until 2028. Okay. So that's like a case in its own. But I'm telling you through two, two parts of this series, four quarterbacks looked at. We get three guys, man, that are legit potential, like top 10 quarterbacks in the league one day. What's the, the Caleb Williams Drake made, Jayden Daniel, Jayden Daniel's class is 23, right? 2024, 2024. Sorry. Thank you. I feel way better about this class than I did at that class at that point because Jayden Daniels hadn't even emerged yet. And Drake May was, well, we know we kind of hope that Drake may, you know, could take the next step and all that. This class where it is now, if these three guys are all out and declare it is, I mean, those three are incredible. I love arch. I think he's really, you know, I gave him 91. I think sellers is, I think the tape is better. I think that sellers is a more accurate pastor than archers right now. Sorry. I don't just agree. I don't necessarily disagree. Yeah. So yeah, it's, it's fascinating. Any one of those three guys, though, give me any one of the three, give me any one, any one of the three. I'm cool. Yep. And I kind of felt, I felt that way with Caleb Drake and, and Jayden. Yeah. Yes. We got to knit pick. It's our job to rank. Right. It's our job. But I promised you like, I can have Jayden. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I get Caleb. Sure. I've got the third pick in the draft and I can get one of these three guys. Right. And we haven't even gotten to the rest of this crew. Next week, we can come back. We're going to talk about the Manning Passing Academy, Academy, what we saw there. And, and then after that, we're right back into, into CJ car, Julian Sain. Two guys, it's not, they're not like on a lot of top lists right now because they, they're the most likely of the two to come back for the 2026 season. But both of those guys showed first round ability last year for extended periods of time. There are some people in the league that I know that think CJ car is next. There's some people in the league that think that, that there's a lot of droopries in saying, there's some good CJ car tape, man. There are some really good CJ car tape. There's just as much, if not more, a really good Julian saying. I agree. I agree. Now he's on it. So, and that does, and again, I mentioned a bunch of other names on the list too that we haven't even talked about. Quick question, Master Maker, Mensa, Sam Levitt with campus. Yes. Yes. You are missing one. Quick question, Eva, Yamal Yava, Matier, just keep her out of them off. I got a question. Answer my question. Yes. Are you bringing the beautiful new bride to the Manning Academy again this year? I'm actually not. We had a, we had a twist, a change of circumstances. AJ, her oldest is 16 years old. He's, he's a counselor. He's got two days. He's devastated. I feel horrible. I was bringing the whole crew down. I was bringing all sorts of things. Really? What's he got two days of though? Two days of training that he can't miss or doesn't get this job. And then Mia is an eighth grader. She's graduating and they have some big event. So like, it just didn't work out. So I want her to stay back with the three other kids. I'm bringing tape down. Tates getting credentialed. Here we go. And, and he's going to have to rough it. He's, he's an Irish still my job. I know what's happening. The writings on the wall. Northeast and, uh, this is the writings on the wall. Um, and it's going to be interesting watching him in 92 to 96 degree heat with 80, 80 to 95 percent. Yeah. I'm just going to watch those, those chunky cheeks just melt. Um, take it easy. But, no, I was going to add another part of the schedule where we get a, a comparison of Italy in your honeymoon to Tibido, Louisiana. And see it was the culture shock that Marissa was going to go through. If she, if she made this trip, I was fascinated. I wanted to bring her on and get her take on what the differences were. Well, she, she went last year. And so she's, she's well aware. We had a blast last year. It's a, it's, she's not a fault. She, she appreciates it. She grew up in the South. She's Clemson. She's, you know, she loved the, the tailgating, the, all of the stuff that makes college football beautiful. She loves and gets it. Like the football stuff. She's like, yeah, I got, like, you, as you well know, I'll let you and mention all that. Um, but she was like, almost in, I don't want to say, I don't want to oversell. But like, was like, almost emotional watching that Friday night lights and seeing like me on the field and how much I like, I just, I ate, I just eat it up, man. It's like the purest thing left in this game to see all these, these counselors who are going to be NFL draft picks, the top quarterbacks in the, in the entire country after spending like eight to ten hours teaching young quarterbacks how to improve their game and the impact they're having on these six graders to 12th graders, right? And then they get their chance to shine at night and be loose and free and the lights come on and they're competing against one another and watch all those, those kids who were, were the focus all day long, go sit in the stands, a couple thousand of them with families and friends coming in. It was Friday. It was, um, it was feel the dreams, man. It's feel the dreams. And there's not, there's no cameras. There's no like, and I've already gotten text from some people and I'm like, oh, no, I feel like I maybe we gave it too much publicity last year. And now all of us are really fucking to piece some friends who work for the big companies. And I'm worried that we're all of a sudden going to have all that you ruined. Yeah. I do want to make mention a former colleague of ours, Matt Miller, had a devastating car crash. And I can't imagine what he and his family are going through. I know he has children, wife, and it's like, you know, whether we work together, don't work together. There is a community of people who have, who have some level of mutual respect. And to hear what he has gone through, you know, our prayers and thoughts are with him and his family and obviously wish nothing but the best and the speediest recovery for him. And so I do think it's important for us to make a quick mention of that because that's like, I can't even imagine, you know. Yeah, I'm glad he did. I've been thinking about it. It's, it is a, it seems to be a really tough situation. You know, it's tough to read into it. It seems like he's handling as well as anyone could based on what he said. But I mean, it's, it's tough and thinking about him. Yeah. So on that note, we'll be back next week. Can't wait to share the Manning Passing Academy and what we find. And just tell some stories and I'll get a lot of videos and pictures and do my best to try to share everything that goes on there without being that guy. And then we're just right back into C.J. 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