9 Breakout WRs You NEED to Draft in 2026! | Fantasy Football League-Winners (Ep. 2158)

This is an "I Heart" podcast, Guaranteed Human. I'm Munga Shategular and I'm back with a new season of my podcast "Skyline Drive". This time I talk to scientists, biopunks, cormugians, blues owners, super seniors, and go us top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever and what it means for all of us. And I get into a bit of trouble along the way. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make you look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. "Skyline Drive" how to live forever on the "I Heart" radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pro's football podcast. I'm Ryan Wormley, joined today by a couple of guests from "Line Up" Fantasy Football Show. It's Mitch Anderson and Justin Bellow. Guys, thank you for coming on. We were supposed to have a fourth on the show today. D-Bro is having some technical difficulties and is not going to be joining us today. So we will power through without him, but I appreciate you guys making the time. Mitch, I'll start with you. Thanks for coming on. Yeah. No pun intended on powering through. I think Derek just cut his power because he didn't want to talk with us anymore, but we're fired up to be here. We're fired up to have you, Mella, how are you doing today? I'm doing great. I think Mitch cut D-Bro's power because he wanted the light shined on him. I don't know. Well, it's not like there. Yeah. Definitely wish he could be here, but still pumped to be here regardless. We're talking some wide receivers that we think are going to break out this year. And what we're going to do because D-Bro prepared a couple of names, and we want to have more names to give you guys and give the audience. We're going to kind of throw the names that D-Bro picked at you to see what you think. You know, we'll talk about where they're ranked. They're real-time ADP stuff like that. And if we agree with D-Bro with these guys as potential breakouts, even though he won't be here to defend himself, and I'm sure he'll be screaming in the comments of this episode with any takes that we neglected of his reminder for everybody that all of our 2026 consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasyproze.com/rankings. I'm also going to be referencing real-time ADP on the show, a really neat page that we have on fantasyproze where it's not just showing ADP that has, you know, sometimes outdated data from, you know, where you guys were going earlier in the summer, but it's updated real-time. You can see trends within the last 24 hours, also trends within the last week, and just kind of see where guys are going. So if I reference a player's ADP, I'm likely referencing their real-time ADP on today's episode just because it's the order I have in the sheet. We'll start with one of D-Bro's. The first player he wanted to talk about was Christian Watson here. Watson is ranked, if you look at ECR, kind of in that 20s range, he's, why does he were 27? So in high-end, why does he receive her three? Similar in the real-time ADP, he's why does he were 28, so just once about lower the consensus rankings, about the 64th pick, if you look at it on average across the different sites. So Mitch, starting with you, is Watson somebody that you are targeting in that range? Do you see the upside here the way D-Bro sees it? This is so interesting. He brought him up on our show, and I think kind of our consensus with Christian Watson is like, if you believe he can stay healthy, I think there's a very serious opportunity for a full-on breakout. You look at what the Packers did over the offseason. They trade away Don Tavi and Wix. They let Romeo Dobbs walk. There's clearly a plan to utilize Christian Watson. Of course, they go and pay him a whole bag of money. So I think for both of us, and I think Melo has more concern, I'll let him talk about that with the injuries. But if Christian Watson can stay healthy, he might be one of the better picks in this range. It's just a question of like, do you have it in you to take the risk on a guy that really can't seem to put together a full season? Do you guys think Melo that, do the Packers need to throw more, like even if we assume health, do the Packers need to throw more for Watson to take a true breakout step? Because he did kind of do this at the end of last year, I think it was some of what was a wide receiver 13 across the last seven or eight weeks, something like in that range. So we did see a breakout already, I have been sort of buying into the notion that Green Bay will maybe open it up a little bit more this year, I just, I really liked Jordan love. Obviously, there's like players that were really excited about here. Do you think that needs to happen for Watson to be a true breakout Melo, or is it strictly like, if the health is there, you're bought in? I don't necessarily think it needs to happen just because I think part of the issues with Watson aside from injuries historically have been. That LaFlaur loves to rotate his receivers, but like Mitch mentioned, they kind of just got their guys now, like with Wixgon, with Dobbsgon, it seems like you're not going to see as much rotating in and out with these receivers. So we don't necessarily need to see a high passing volume offense here in Green Bay for Watson to really hit, but it certainly would help a lot. It certainly would give me a lot more confidence. If we do see Jordan love throwing the ball a lot more here in 2026, and I definitely think it's possible for a number of reasons, I'm not sure about this Green Bay defense. I certainly don't know about Micah Parsons' health, at least early on in the season, who knows what's going to happen with Josh Jacobs and that whole ambiguous situation where they don't really have great depth behind them. Maybe they do start throwing the ball more. And if that happens, Christian Watson could be an absolute smash at AVP. Mitch, do you see Tucker Kraft as a factor here, because obviously he wasn't on the field during that breakout that Watson had in the second half of last season? I do. And that's a great point and probably something I should have mentioned. He is one of the guys that we have talked at Nauseam about this summer. We're huge Tucker Kraft people. We've flirted with ranking Tucker Kraft above Colson, love them because we have that much confidence in him once he's on the field and that full strength. So yes, I do think it's a factor, but I think when you just look at how much the target shares should be condensed with less weapons on the field, I still feel pretty confident that Christian Watson will get his as long as he's out there. Where is he ranked for you guys, Christian Watson? Like I said, why would you see were 27 sort of like something around the 64th pick? I know that there's we see the upside of the pick there. But for both of you, is that somebody that you're actually drafting in that spot, Melo? Yeah, that's about right where I have him. Actually, I'm pulling up my updated rankings now, but I think I have him right in that range. So he's not somebody I'm necessarily reaching to go get because I have that strong of convictions, but I feel good enough about the upside if you can say on the field that I think he's very appropriately priced. What do you think Mitch, too, high, too low, just right? I am slightly below consensus. I think there's just enough receivers in that range that I feel a little safer taking and a little bit more confident in that I'd rather take the shot on than go for Christian Watson. All right. That was the first one from deep row. Let's dive into one of your guys' picks. Who's the first receiver you want to talk about? I'm going to Melo. This is coming from both of us. We just named him as an hour guy on our show, but it's lab mcconkey of Los Angeles Chargers, and I want to take a look back at the Chargers situation last season. You have Joe Al and Roshan Slater, two all pro tackles out for the majority of the season leads to the Chargers having the 30-second ranked pass blocking offensive line out of if you can do the math, 32 teams. Forces Justin Herbert to take a career high in sacks also ends up hosting a career high scramble rate. Part of the reason we saw Justin Herbert as the second highest Russian quarterback in the NFL last year. But then you also bring in Keenan Allen, who already had a rapport with Justin Herbert. He ends up soaking up 122 targets. And so if you ended up drafting lab mcconkey last year, as I think it was the wide receiver 11 he finished up as, of course you were disappointed in a wide receiver 27 finish, but I do want to explain why he is so much different this year and why he is a screaming value at around the wide receiver 20. First reason obviously we're all talking about it, Mike McDaniels come to town. He has very clear plans for scheming up lad. We've seen lad already tearing up training camp, Keenan Allen, officially an Indianapolis cult, therefore not coming back in either ours 122 targets from last year that are now vacated. And obviously we got the news about Tyler Beattish ending up on IR, but still this offensive line is so much stronger than what we saw in 2025. And all of this talk I'm doing is about the environment, but I want to look at why we were drafting lad so highly last year. As a rookie who is the wide receiver 12, he led the entire NFL in separation winrate out of the slot. He was almost just as good when lined up out wide absolute demon against man coverage second the NFL and average separation score. But if you look at 2025 to this cataclysmic year that everyone's freaking out about, he really wasn't that bad either. Lad himself finished forth among all receivers and average yards of separation. He was the number one overall receiver and separation score against cover two. Now he's in line for a lot more of those high value targets that we look at in the red area. We had 15 last year with keen and Alan commanding 16, which once again are vacated. And then we got the report today, Daniel Popper from the athletic reported that there's been talks about lad being used similarly to how Mike McDaniel used Tyree kill in Miami. And so if you don't believe me, listen to what Jim Harbaugh is saying, listen to what Mike McDaniel is saying. And I think Lad McConkey is my favorite breakout pick at wide receiver. Bella, what do you think about the charge's offense? Is Lad somebody that you look at as he is the place I want to invest in this offense? Or are you of the mindset of, I want to get as many charges as I can, I'm buying the Herbert McDaniel pairing, I'm buying the health, your offensive line, Tyler, be out of your side. Are you kind of interested in taking as many shots as you can on the charges or is Lad sort of like the prime guy for you? Well, a little bit of both if I can because I'm bullish on this offense as a whole, but if there is one guy like at cost, it's certainly Lad McConkey, even though that cost is still relatively high, but it's not high compared to what it was last year. And that's what's interesting to me is all of the reasons we were excited about Lad going into last year, obviously it was like Murphy's Law coming to fruition, everything went wrong, that could go wrong, but everything we were excited about going into the season still exists now. And I would argue there's more to be excited about with Mike McDaniel in particular, yet he's so much cheaper than he was last year. So he's a guy I'm taking a ton of shots on, I absolutely love the value on that McConkey. What do you think? Like the ultimate ceiling in terms of like best case scenario, right, like I don't imagine there's really a world where he's wide receiver one this season, certainly he could be a very highly ranked guy by the end of the year, I totally agree with the pick. And I think he's going to have a really productive season, and I love getting as many charges as I can. I'm imagining that you guys don't see like a wide receiver one. by that. I mean, literally number one, not top 12. Obviously, we can see that. But what do you think is sort of the ceiling of like, Hey, this goes as well as it can. Where is the ending up you think? Well, it's very funny. You mentioned that because earlier this summer, Mitch wrote a very controversial article about the the bullish or unlikely case that led Maconkie finishes as the wide receiver one. Okay. People did not seem to react to that very well, which I can understand. But being realistic, like, I don't think his ceiling is that far removed from what we saw in like the prime Kenan Alan days in the early Justin Herbert career, where I mean, he was, what was his career best finish, probably wide receiver three or four. I'm not projecting that for a lad, but I 100% think it's in his range of outcomes. What do you think ceiling wise, Mitch? I mean, obviously if you had that piece, then you have already thought about this. A lot of people did not understand the word bold ahead of case for that. And so what I've been calling it is the extremely reasonable case that lad Maconkie will outperform his ADP. That's kind of where I'm at. Within to me, I see the ceiling. Yeah. In like a top five wide receiver, if they are utilizing him enough. And to me, as long as he's healthy and like what they've gotten that receiver room, what I feel we're going to see from the chargers, I think we've got a wide receiver one outcome for lab Maconkie as in a top 12 receiver. Yeah. I mean, it's basically like what do you, I mean, especially if you include the playoff game he had as a rookie, like we've already seen him hit that level of height. So just quickly, I know we're talking about receivers on the show. Are you guys interested in a Marion Hampton as well? Just thinking about the chargers offense as a whole as a mid-second round pick. Like, are you invested not just in the passing game, but also in the running game here? Or are you specifically looking at lad is again, sort of the best investment here, Mitch? We, I think we view loud as the best investment. We've probably been a little bit critical of a Marion Hampton. I think neither one of us saw exactly what we wanted to see last year. And obviously injuries factored into that. But I think it's more of a price issue with Hampton for me, rather than a, I don't think he's going to give you points as a fancy football running back. I think his price is just risen a little bit too much for me that I'm not personally targeting him in the second round. Well, let's, let's go to your, you meet number one receiver that you want to talk about here. Yeah, I'm going to be talking about another young receiver here. And that is Teterola McMillan going as about the wide receiver 17 right now. Last year, as a rookie, he was the wide receiver 15. Now in year two, he's being drafted as the wide receiver 17. And to me, that just doesn't really seem to make sense. Last year, we saw how good he was of rookies with at least 20 targets last year. He led all of them receptions, yards, touchdowns, pro football focus, receive and grade. He finished second yards per reception among those same rookie receivers. He was a top 10 pick in the NFL draft, proved it to be worthwhile, winning offensive rookie of the year. He has the skill set and the athletic profile to develop into an elite wide receiver in this league for years to come. And despite all of this, we're drafting him lower than he finished last season in terms of position rank. The one argument I keep hearing against T-Mac is that we're drafting him at his ceiling. But to me, I'd argue we're drafting Matt his floor because we saw him perform better than this last year that cannot be his ceiling. And if anything, you'd hope he takes a step forward here in year two as we so often see with wide receivers. I think part of it might just be last year, the year two wide receivers were really disappointing in the recency bias of everything people are fading them. When in reality, you have a top 10 pick here that proved how talented he is. And to me, he's not going high enough. I like the fact that he could be lining up in the slot a lot more this year as well. We've seen it in camp sort of that big slot role. I know that Bryce Young and the Panthers don't inspire a lot of confidence. I will be the first one to admit that. But this is just a bet on talent for me with T-Mac, a bet that he can get enough volume to make it worthwhile. He clearly has the talent. I think I'll have the volume too. So I'm willing to bet on this breakout. Mitch, your co-host took the words right out of my mouth. Is Bryce Young good enough to make this a savvy pick? The thing I keep saying is Teteron Mcmillan has a Bryce Young problem. But I agree with mellow. I'm betting on the talent too here. And you talked a little bit about the usage we've seen so far here in the preseason. They talked about why to move him around the formation more. We've seen it in camp. We saw it in the preseason. He went 57% of his snaps out of the slot. And we're talking about a guy like, okay, is he going to get enough volume to have a high end ceiling? He was 14th in target share last year. I imagine in his sophomore season, he will take a step up from that. And mellow, your point was perfect. I think between Malik neighbors injury last year, Brian Thomas Jr. fell off the face of the earth. Lad McConkey disappointed. I think there's a certain stink around these second year receivers that's suppressing their prices. And we always say, Zigg, when others zag, be greedy, when others are fearful. And it just feels like a perfect spot for T-Mac to get him out of value. Mellow, do you think we're going to see more touchdowns? This year because you look at last year, obviously, you know, the first 10 weeks, he had one game where he caught any touchdowns. He had two of them in the game against the Cowboys, but then from week 11 on, he had two, one, one, zero, one, and then a couple of zeros. So he had five in the last was at seven weeks of the season where like, do you, is that a trend of like, hey, they're figuring out, I use them a little bit more second after the rookie season, like bit of a breakout, specifically in the red zone usage or really just like regression because he was getting so many catches without finding the end zone early on in the season. Do you think that will play out more in year two or is it just a general, you know, target, share, volume? He's a good player. So taking the other step forward that has you excited. Are you specifically looking at touchdowns? I think it's more so the latter, I think just overall, you know, I'm not betting on an increase in touchdowns, but I think that likely will come to, like you mentioned, it was so feast or famine last year, felt like he was allergic to the end zone the first half of the season. You finally saw them come a little bit later. You hope that carries over into next year. And for what it's worth, he profiles as a great red zone weapon, just his stature, his style. And the panthers don't have a lot of that on this team. They don't have a lot of other elite weapons, particularly that particularly that led themselves well to scoring down by the goal line. So I absolutely could see an uptick in touchdowns as well, which is just another reason to be excited. The only case against that aerobic meal that I feel like I can make besides like, obviously asking the Bryce young question, well, I guess I should say, including the Bryce young question, is with that offensive environment, I'm looking at the other receivers in real time ADP going around him. And it's Rishi Rice, Zay flowers, Jalen Waddle, Lad Maconkey. These are all receivers with great quarterbacks or great offensive play collars, you know, established offenses that we have a lot of faith in. The only guy around him that doesn't really fit that bill is Garrett Wilson. But everybody else that's in this real time ADP range of him amongst the receivers at least are guys and offenses that you just have a little bit more faith in. Where did you say mellow that he you said he should be ranked higher? Where do you have him ranked, actually? Well, it's a really interesting question. So I have him at about the wide receiver 14, so not significantly higher. But I think what's really interesting about it is in addition to people fading these year to receivers. I think receivers are just going a little bit later than they have the last two or three years maybe. I think there's this narrative this year that you have to get your running backs early, which is what we saw maybe five 10 years ago. I think that's sort of coming back. And now we're a receiver like T-Mac. It's not only that I think he's getting ranked too low in terms of where he is positionally. It's that you can get a quality receiver like that a little bit later than you could a year or two ago. If you guys want a chance to win a Colston, Loveland signed bears jersey. Then this is your shot. All you have to do is subscribe to the fantasy pros YouTube channel right now. Drop a comment below on any of our videos. And that is it. We'll be announcing the winner right here on the channel. So make sure to turn on those notifications so you can know when new videos are up and to claim your prize. All right guys, let's get to Debrose second receiver. He wanted to talk about Parker Washington definitely a favorite amongst the folks here fantasy pros a favorite amongst many people in the larger fantasy football world. If you look at real time ADP wide receiver 30 about the 67th 68th pick in drafts right now that's actually risen about five spots overall in the last week. So the helium continues to be there for Washington early on, you know, like early in the summer. I remember having conversations about like, should he be going ahead of Brian Thomas junior or not. He's now going about a full round ahead of him. So that has really solidified as he is the Jaguars receiver to target. He's going in range of guys like Christian Watson who already mentioned Mike Evans, Marvin Harrison junior. It kind of feels to me mellow. I'll start with you that if you look at ADP and just the narrative and the way people are talking about the position there feels like to there's a clear cut top 30. I should say and he is the 30th of those 30 in ADP right now. And I think you could maybe make a case for like Marvin Harrison junior as like a, you know, a post type sleeper or car and altators are rookie there 31 and 32. Beyond that, it gets not gross, but it's a little more worrying. I think the later on you get at the position. It's not quite as deep as maybe it's reputation would hold. So like Parker Washington, if he's the last of those top 30 on the board, I am prioritizing getting him myself. I'm totally bought in. I'm, I'm in agreement with everybody who has the hype here. What do you think mellow about Parker Washington in that range? Is he a breakout candidate? Yeah. I totally think so. And I appreciate you starting with me because I don't know if you heard Mitch's deep breathing as soon as you said the name Parker Washington. I've had to listen to this guy gush about him nonstop episode after episode makes me feel like because I like him. I don't actually like him because Mitch loves him that much that by comparison, I don't like him, but I do. I think there is sort of a tear break right around where he's going, right after where he's going. And there's been so much hype in all this drum beat this whole off season, but it really has been warranted. Like you saw the talent flash toward the end of last year. It was unclear because of this crowded receiving room, how much that would carry over into this season. But by every indication, he is the wide receiver one on this Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence offense. He is going to not come off the field very frequently. And in fact, all the reports have been two wide receiver sets as him and Jacobi Myers Brian Thomas is leaving the field most frequently in two wide receiver when Travis Hunter subs in and three receiver sets were once again seeing Brian Thomas leave the field Parker Washington staying on which Kobe Meyers And that's why I think it's totally appropriate now that Parker Washington's ADP has Pretty safely pass Brian Thomas's I know from like a draft capital perspective It sounds insane a year ago. It would have sound criminal, but I think it's totally fair I'll stick with you for a second before we bring in the superfan in Mitch Similar question to what I've asked these other guys. What's the actual ceiling because even if he's at the the top of this receiving chart There still are other names This is still an offensive coordinator who is you know, I know with those some question marks about the running back room But who has typically had a strong running game as well So is the volume even if he's number one in target share is the volume enough for him to be a true breakout like league winner type You know really live up to the hype that's surrounding him right now Yeah, I think it depends how you define the league winner because of what you mentioned like this is gonna be a team that runs the ball This is a team that has so many different mouths to feed even if Parker gets the biggest slice of the pie I don't envision him having like a top five finish probably not a top 10 But could I see him being a fringe wide receiver one maybe a high-end wide receiver two absolutely? I think that's completely in the cards and with where he's going if he does that that kind of is a league winner Or at least somebody that can make a significant difference on your roster All right, Mitch give us the reasonable case for Parker Washington finishing as wide receiver one this year No, I can only be unreasonable when I talk about Parker Washington Mel I'm actually with you. I would say that's around where I have his ceiling But I think the thing that bothers me about Parker Washington is we're talking about if he'll break out in 2026 And I keep saying this to mellow like we already saw the breakout in the back half of last year from week nine on He was the wide receiver 16 in your fantasy football playoffs. He was the wide receiver six He led the entire team in targets receptions yards after the catch yards for outrun targets for outrun Like this guy to me has been so obvious. I've been talking about him since January I think that we want so badly to get pieces of this Liam Cohen offense and It was a little bit ambiguous for a while who was going to be the guy and he really has emerged And I think it's more obvious now So he went from being a really awesomely priced guy in Bestball earlier on in the summer to Shrinking that bridge a little bit to what kind of value you can get But I still think he's a tremendous value here at Yersi were 30 What what round are you drafting him in Mitch? Oh, I hate saying this in case my legmaids are watching But I'm getting him in round five That that is the downside of doing all these shows in August Yes, all all your legmaids are like my mom will watch the shows and she'll be later draft with me in the family leagues Like you mentioned this guy like thanks. Well, thanks a lot Rat five for you though. You're comfortable taking him. Yeah. Yeah, I I'm in on this one part of me Early on I feel more strongly about Parker Washington now part of me early on when it felt like a little more ambiguous in terms of what this receiver room might look like Was just saying I just want to draft all the Trevor Lawrence and you know then not worry about where the ball is going Do you like Trevor Lawrence Mitch as a quarterback target? Absolutely, we always make the joke as we're starting out these receivers We've started out Trevor Lawrence have like 7,000 yards and 60 touchdowns because it's just weapons weapons everywhere in Jacksonville I think what we saw at the end of last year he was absolutely tremendous not just after his by-week in the fancy football playoff Simon Brock perty just went nuclear and now I just I see him price as this like semi-low-end quarterback won went to me. I think the upside is so much higher than that Melo same question where you add on Trevor Lawrence All the way in and I'll put my hand up. I'm a former Trevor Lawrence hater. I've been cured. I've been fixed and I Don't think there's a quarter. Yeah, I've seen the light. I don't think there's a quarterback I'm drafting more than Trevor Lawrence because It's like Mitch said we're standing on all these receivers to be incredible Maybe you want their quarterback especially when that quarterback finally showed off the legs in a major way last year I'm not saying he's going to have nine touchdowns again But they used him down by the goal line designed runs quarterback powers quarterback draws you get that with the passing I'm drafting so much Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I don't think that running is going anywhere Liam Cohen likes having quarterbacks that are mobile I think you will continue to be willing to use Trevor Lawrence in that area of the field. So yeah Mitch, let's go to your number two receiver here All right, let's talk about a guy that you actually mentioned who's going just a spot below in carnal Tate I think carnal Tate outside of Parker Washington is one of the most if not the most mispriced players in fancy football this year This is a guy who had top four NFL draft capital. He's attached to a young ascending first overall pick at quarterback They bring in an offensive coordinator this offseason and Brian dayball who has historically loved to spam his number one receiver You look at Stefan Diggs in Buffalo or even Malik neighbors as a rookie in 2024 when he got the second highest target share of any wide receiver in the past five years outside of only JSN in 2025 and now everybody is freaking out because we haven't seen a whole lot of production in the preseason and I'm just trying to remember if there was another top five wide receiver pick and recent memory who struggled in the preseason Something about can't catch a ball if it doesn't have the white stripes I think it was Jamar chase who finished as the wide receiver five as a rookie and now carnal Tate Like you said is going as the wide receiver 31 according to fancy pros real-time ADP Before I wrap though, I understand with the Jamar comp that cam ward is not Joburo and I have my own concerns about cam ward But it does feel fitting that last year we were taking Travis Hunter as the 60 second player off the board The year before it was MHJ at 16 neighbors at 49 the last time a wide receiver who was a real-life top six NFL draft pick Was drafted as low in fantasy as the 73rd pick was Jamar chase in 2021 as the 73rd pick off the board I'm munga shit together, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast skyline drive This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides organoids blood boys blue zones and brain replacement to try to understand What this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us? 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I just to say that It's fine - Funny, I've said the last couple of years on doing shows, often with Debro, how like, Malik neighbors, the year he came out, I kept saying in redraft leagues, this is the cheapest he's going to be for the next several years, and I want to get him when he's at his cheapest. I said the same thing about Teteromaic Millen a year ago, and I feel similarly about Carnaultate. I don't feel as much conviction with him as I did those other two examples I just gave, but I do feel similarly about, every real time ADP of 78th, like that's, he's not, - Oh, that's true in my style. - Oh, that's true in my style. - Yeah, yeah. But I'm like, that's not gonna be his chief next year, right? - Absolutely. - I'm like, there's just no way. So yeah, like, even if you are worried about the tight, and I am worried about the fit of Brian Debal and Cam Ward, and obviously we saw flashes from Cam Ward, and I generally am a believer, we do need to see a pretty significant step forward, right? I wonder if Debal has maybe been pulled up a little more by the quarterbacks he's been with, rather than vice versa. Like there are definite concerns for me with this type of Titans offense in general. But again, the receivers go in after Carnaultate. I do not inspire a ton of confidence to me, and just blindly taking top 10 receivers as rookies and holding on, even if he starts off slow, holding on for like that second half breakout, that's such a tried and true strategy that more often than not, I feel like pants out. So yeah, I caught, if he was going 10 spots higher, I feel super differently about this. - Absolutely. - Where he is, it does feel mellow, like this is a really good value. - Yeah, I think the key you just said there is, if you draft him and he gets off to a slow start, do not panic trade him, because we see, like last year seems like maybe the only exception where there wasn't a rookie receiver who really broke out down the stretch. I guess Luther Burton is probably the closest thing to it. But pretty much every year we see one, two, three, rookie receivers start off slow, and then they're absolutely winners. That is why I'm in at Carnaultate at cost. I will say beginning of the season, I am a little bit nervous just because I'm not quite sold on Cam Ward yet, like we talked about with a guy like T-Mac having a Bryce Young problem. Bryce Young's a former first overall pick. We could be talking about Cam Ward like that in the next year or two. There's also another very good receiver there in Wanda, Robinson, who was a thousand-year receiver last year. So I'm not sure the target share is going to be quite where you want it immediately. So I definitely have my concerns and I understand why he's getting drafted a little bit later than we normally would see it. Top 10 pick in the NFL draft go. But with that said, yes, because he is so cheap and because I could see him being a league winner the second half of the year, I'm totally taking shots in Carnaultate. - What do you guys think is his ceiling not in fantasy, but just as an NFL wide receiver? And I ask that because I feel like the fact that at no point in Tate's college career has he been the top NFL draft prospect in that receiver room. So I wonder if that has sort of lowered everybody's estimation in their heads. Oh, well, like he's not as good as Jeremiah Smith is going to be in a year or he wasn't as good of a prospect as Marvin Harrison Jr. was two years ago or he wasn't as good as I wonder if that is sort of messing with people's perception and viewing him as lower ceiling than he is. And maybe you could make a compelling case that he's not as high ceiling as some of those other guys. I think that's valid for some of those names. But I wonder where you see his ceiling just overall as an NFL receiver mellow because I think this is a really good player even if he's multiple tears down from a guy like Jeremiah Smith. - Oh, absolutely. Look at Justin Jefferson. He wasn't the number one receiver on his college team and developed into maybe debatably the best receiver in the NFL at least at one point. Maybe still is obviously the quarterback play last year contributed to his downfall a little bit. But yeah, I don't really mind that he wasn't the number one in the Ohio State, which just pumps out wide receivers like a factory or something. With that said, I don't think he is like the same elite level prospect as most receivers that go as high as he did in the draft. But I think he'd be a very good real life number one like a Terry McLean or something like that. You know, when he hits his prime in his career. - Yeah, Mitch, do you think about it similarly in terms of, hey, his number four pick which we love seeing receivers get that draft capital but really weak class, like kind of different circumstances there. - Yeah, like talent wise, if I look at like the NFL wide receiver landscape, like top 10 to me is like where I could see carnal tape landing. I think from a talent perspective, I can't see him breaking into those like top three, four, five guys, but I think he's got the talent to be there. He just this situation in fantasy football reminds me so much of like the way we're viewing team act, the way we view Drake London where you're saying like, yeah, this quarterback situation is awful, but this guy is so talented that he is gonna pay off and especially in this case with carnal tape where the price is just too low. - Yeah. All right, Justin, give me your second receiver. - Next, I'm gonna be talking about Josh Downs of the Indianapolis Colts going at about the wide receiver 40. Now, let me address the elephant in the room first. I know Kenan Allen just signed with the Colts could eat into the workload of Downs. Similar to what we saw last year with Ladmakaki who we talked about earlier. So that does admittedly make me a little bit nervous about Josh Downs, but I'm still willing to take the shot because yes, Kenan Allen is there. But at this point in his career, what he is right now, he is not nearly as good as Michael Pittman. Pittman's now long gone out of Indianapolis. And that's really meaningful when you look at how involved Pittman's been in this offense. He had 111 targets each of the last two years. Those are all for grabs now. He was the first read on a ton of targets the last couple of years. Last year he dominated short to intermediate routes. Had a average depth of target of 8.4 yards, which is exactly what Josh Downs' ADOT was as well. So to recap that, the Colts lost their high volume first read type of receiver who dominated in the short to intermediate game. And to me, Josh Downs is the guy who profiles as the one best who steal those targets to play that role. I know he's stylistically a little bit different in size and stature than Michael Pittman. But I think a lot of those targets are going to go to him. And on top of all of that, the Colts are verbally telling us that Josh Downs will be more heavily utilized. They've been putting them on the field in two receiver sets. They've been lining them up outside, which really has been the issue for Downs. He's been primarily just a slot who's on the field in three receiver sets. We're now seeing him play outside. We're seeing him on the field when there's only two receivers. He's looked great in camp, all the camp reports out of Indy have been that he has looked spectacular. And for what it's worth, I like Pierce still has these ankle issues. He has still not practiced all of camp. So with all that said, forget Keenan Allen. Josh Downs, I think is finally going to eat see a ton of volume here in 2026. We could very well finally see the breakout that we've been waiting for. And if his ADP continues to slip because of Keenan Allen concerns or because Alec Pierce, which is activated, that's even better. I think it's a better bargain at that point. They're back to back in real time ADP, Alec Pierce and Josh Downs, right now at 40 and 41 amongst receivers, which is interesting. And it's kind of funny. Downs has gone up in the last 24 hours on real time ADP, but he's gotten down in the last seven days. So kind of just like a lot of stuff, you know, different factors at play here in this cult receiving room. Mitch, I'll just ask you, where are you at on Downs and really this receiving room in general? Because they're like not only Pierce's injury and the addition of Keenan Allen and Downs himself as a player, you know, but also Tyler Warren. I think could catch a ton of passes this year. And this is a team that whose best player is Jonathan Taylor. So they want to run the ball and whose quarterback is coming off of the Achilles injury. So there's just so many factors at play here. - There is so much. Like Indy is just so hard to get a read on. But what I'll say is I'm entirely with you. I think I was probably a little bit too low on Tyler Warren earlier on the offseason and I've finally seen the light. But when it comes to the wide receiver room, we've talked a lot about this. I just, my philosophy as a fantasy football player is that I don't want a guy like Alec Pierce, a guy who hasn't had 50 catches in his career and you're going to have those boom games but you're also going to have those massive duds from him. And I just see Josh Downs for a lot of the reasons Melo said as a guy who's more reliable and more consistent. And do I like the fact that for Josh Downs that Alec Pierce just got activated? Do I like the fact that they just went out and got Keenan Allen? Of course not. But watching that price fall, I agree with Melo that I'm starting to think the ADP is slipping more than it should for those two things happening. - Yeah. Would you take him, you know, at this point, Mitch? - Josh Downs right now, I'm seeing him. He's at the wide receiver 45. Like, I kind of like him around that, like Wondale Robinson, Jacobi Myers. Like I view those guys very similarly. Probably about two rounds ahead. - Yeah, for you, Melo? - Same range. I'm taking him probably about two rounds ahead of where he's going. Those guys you just mentioned, Mitch, like they're all in a cluster for me. High probably mid to high 30s. Very similar stylistically, very similar in terms of the production. I see them having in fantasy. When I say a breakout from Josh Downs, I don't think he's going to be a wide receiver one for you. I don't think he's going to have a top full finish. But do I think he can significantly beat his ADP? Absolutely. - Yeah. Quick note for everybody on the draft simulator. Practice makes playoffs. Get ready for your fantasy football draft with our free mock draft simulator. Complete fast, realistic mock drafts in minutes. Test different strategies and practice from any draft position. Start preparing now and enter your real draft with confidence at fantasyprose.com/mock. That's fantasyprose.com/mock. Last one from D-Brow here, guys. He wanted to throw out Jalen Coker. I've heard him talk about Coker many, many times on the shows that I've done with him. So I'd not surprise that he would have picked him. Why does he wear 50 in real time ADP? About the 140th pick. So obviously a later pick that you're looking at. I think similarly to what you just said, Mellow, about Josh Downs. Probably a limit on the true breakout ceiling here, especially, give that as in the same. receiving room as Teter O. McMillan. So now we're talking about all the question marks we have with Bryce Young in the offense and now looking at the number two receiver as opposed to the number one receiver in that offense. Where are you guys at on Coker as let's call them a really good value who can, you know, bring back a lot of production at this cost as opposed to like, you know, I don't need you guys to pretend to make the case that he give you a wide receiver one or anything like that. Right. It's right out on Coker. Yeah, I'm a little bit higher than consensus. I think we've both agreed like for all summer. I think Jalen Coker is so talented. I think we've seen a comfort ability between him and Bryce Young that as much as we're excited for how much more volume team at could see. Jalen Coker is still going to get his and any time I see a receiver with that much upside going in like the 50s or 60s like these are the type of guys I want to target like a wide receiver to on a team that isn't making the big flashy plays but is getting a good amount of volume and in your PPR leagues like he's just going to chip away and he's going to get you the points and using me as solid guy in your roster. So I'm going a little bit higher than consensus. I probably have him like low 40s versus 52 where I'm seeing him right now. I'm going to read a little excerpt from DeBrow actually has the player note on fantasy pros.com on Jalen Coker's page. So just to give us some stats that I'm sure he would have said here. Last year when Coke, again, this is reading DeBrow's words. Last year when Coker was at his healthiest during weeks 13 to 19. He was challenging Teteroe. McMillan for the top spot in Carolina's aerial attack. During that stretch, Coker had a 20% target share. McMillan had 18.3%. 2.3 yards per out run. McMillan had 1.78. Four red zone targets. McMillan had one and a 28.3% first read share in those six games played. Coker finished at least 14 PPR points four times. He's a late round priority for me. This season the massive divide between McMillan and Coker and ADP should not exist. Enjoy the value and quote. So DeBrow obviously very high mellow here on Jalen Coker. Yeah. And as a team act guy, it hurts me. And it also hurts me because I genuinely like Coker a lot as a talent. I think he is a phenomenal player. What I keep going back to is the Bryce young problem that we have here in Carolina unless he takes a step forward. It's hard to imagine him really supporting multiple pass catchers, which is what scares me. I think what's been scaring me the most to is there are ports in recent days or recent weeks that Teteroe. McMillan will be playing or in the slot this year. It seems like the offense is really trying to commit to build their whole system, their whole offense around T Mac around their top 10 pick from just a year ago. That scares me for Coker. Now with that said, he's going late enough that I don't mind taking a shot on him because what if we're wrong about T Mac? What if he's not going to be the true undisfeated alpha of this offense and Coker is just going to get his well, then all of a sudden he's a huge value with where he's going. I'm just a little bit nervous that Bryce Young won't be able to support two pass catchers and then a world where T Mac does take that step forward. Coker's probably going to be a little bit disappointing. Some of the names around him in real time ADP just at any position, Jalen Coker, Jake Ferguson, Chris Rodriguez, Xavier Worthy, Jacobi Myers, and literally right next to him in real time ADP is Jason Myers, the Seahawks kicker. That gives you a sense of where you can try to get Coker in drafts this year and I think it's a late round flyer just makes all the sense in the world. I wish I could disagree with more of D-Bros picks with him that would have been way more fun. We can tell him we didn't pick. You should have said somebody you don't like that he also doesn't like. Yeah, yeah, I shouldn't be like D-Bros big breakout receiver this year is Jalen Naylor and he really thrown out Jerry Judy as his guys. That would have been fun, missed opportunity. All right, Mitch, who's your number three receiver? All right, let's talk about James and Williams. I will not lie, I've been burned before by Jamo, but call me Michael Scott because no question about it. I am ready to get hurt again. We saw Jamo last year finish as the wide receiver 11 and half PPR, but I think anyone who had him on their team knows it was a tale of two halves. Weeks 1 through 7, when offensive coordinator John Morton was calling the plays, he was the wide receiver 42. Then weeks 9 to 18, once Dan Campbell took back play calling duties, he was the wide receiver 5 overall, just a complete flip after the by week. But now we're seeing him light up Lions camp here in 2026. Samu Porta did just return to practice, but we're obviously monitoring that hip injury. Tesla hasn't impressed quite like how all of us thought he would here in camp and preseason. And so I'm going to ask a very bold question. Is James and Williams just Luther Burden light? Jared Goff just did an interview with the athletic race at how proud of the steps James and Williams has taken in the offense this off season, how much he's improved over the past month. And if you've drafted him in the past, you're ripping your hair out, begging for more volume. These, you know, just how good this guy could be with more targets. And then I saw a great stat from a good friend Pete Nova on Twitter that I thought really illustrated that. The stat is that of any player with 50 or more touches last season, James and Williams led the entire NFL with 15.9 yards per touch. Jamo is electric. He's been a standout in camp. Dan Campbell has already stated that Williams is in for a big year. And so we've got this guy who has two straight thousand yard seasons. He's building a better rapport with his quarterback. He has the backing from his head coach who wants to find more ways to get the ball in his hands. And so I'm absolutely heating up on him going as the wide receiver 25 going outside of your wide receiver two spot that you're drafting. I think he's just such a phenomenal bet. Yeah, it's so interesting because like I know some of the pushback on James and Williams as well. You know, like Sam Vaporto was banged up during that time when he finally has breakout, you know, in the second half last year. I'm like, I just look at this narratively and I go, the reason it feels like that Dan Campbell took over play calling last year was because he was frustrated with James and Williams back in the ball. Like he loves this guy. Do you think just because he's not calling to play this year when he went out and was bringing on a new play car that he didn't say to Drew Petsick. Like you have to get this guy the ball that just feels like it's going to be such an edict from him this season that that was in a new question number one. Yeah, I imagine. Definitely. So I'm like, like, dude, the head coach loves this guy. Quarterbacks talking him up. I think there's a chance that the Lions are in a lot of shooting. I know they're really easy schedule. I still think we might see them a lot of shootouts this year. You just throw in the ball a ton. Erickson Debro and I are sharing a team and a league against some of our listeners. We just drafted earlier today for an episode and we all took Jared golf because we're like, we think the Lions are going to pass a lot and these receivers are going to have good seasons. So yeah, it's funny because some of the names around James and Williams are really intriguing to me as well. Christian Watson is on the list there. I like Roman Doons a lot. Those guys are sandwiching JMO. You know, Luther Burton is on the list. Mike Evans Parker Washington a couple spots further down. So it's like a strong area for receivers. I feel like in drafts, but the upside feels just kind of extra special with James and Williams. If it hits, maybe a little less certainty of it hitting Mellow, where are you at on Jameson? I don't hate where he's going. I think I'm a little bit less optimistic as Mitch knows. We like to have some Jameson William debates. I think he's a great player. I love how we ended last season. I love the type of boom potential that he has. But in a weird way, Mitch, it's almost like what you were talking about with Alec Pierce, where I don't know if I want to live and die that way. Those, you're going to have those big boobing games. You're also going to have the duds. So that does concern me. I like this offense that he's in. I like that they might be the highest scoring offense in the league, but also don't like that. A lot of that's going to come with Jameer Gibbs and a lot of that's going to come with Amin Raus St. Brown. And I, although I know he plays a very different role, a lot of it may come with Sam LaPorta who, like you mentioned, Worm was injured, was not playing during Jameson Williams breakout last year. So all that to say, I'm kind of just okay with where he's being ranked. But with that said, all those other receivers, you mentioned going in the same range. I'd personally rather take the shot on them. What about, because you mentioned earlier, I think it was you Mitch that you guys like Tucker Kraft, they're back to back in real time ADP. Would you rather be taking your tight end here and shooting for the ceiling there or with this pick in sort of like early six-throundish range, taking the upsets swing on Jameson Williams? I am as a as a Brock Bowers, no matter what guy, it would kind of depend if I've already drafted Brock Bowers. And if I have, then I'm absolutely firing on either Jamo or Parker Washington around the spot. But yeah, you do have to consider if I don't have a tight end at this point, Mellow, you agree. Like Tucker Kraft is the last of the guys that I'm really targeting before I'm fully punting. Yeah, I agree. And to be honest, even as someone who's not super enthusiastic about either, if I have to pick between the two at that spot, roster construction aside and all that's equal, I probably still would take Jamo. And that's as someone who likes Tucker Kraft. I am getting a little bit nervous just about some of the narratives around him sort of being eased in. And then they just went out and they signed Johnny Smith today. So that all kind of concerns me a little bit. But I don't have, I wouldn't have a huge problem with someone taking Kraft over Jamo either. Mellow, let's stick with you for the final wide receiver breakout. All right, my last guy, somebody, Mitch is probably sick of hearing me talk about, is the rookie at a San Francisco Dijon's tripling going as the wide receiver 47 now. He's finally moving up in ADP. But for most of this offseason, this poor man has been so disrespected because people did not think he should be the 33rd overall pick in the draft. But the matter of fact is he was. And maybe just maybe that was a really good decision by the 49ers. As he's now in a position to be an instant contributor, obviously we know Ricky Pierce always plays on season ending IR with that knee injury that required surgery. And it's open the door for stripling to have a much larger role in this offense. And he has more than capitalize so far. You look at the 49ers first preseason game got the start accumulated seven receptions for 63 yards and just about a quarter and a half had an incredible downpour. field catch near the sideline. He also led the team in receptions and receiving yards in their second preseason game. And I know that's just preseason, but it hasn't only been the preseason. He's consistently been turning heads and camp. 49ers, 49ers reporter Grant Cohn went as far as to say quote, "He already is the best receiver on the team full stop. He is the only wide receiver on the roster who will actually frighten, frighten opposing defenses this year." And quote, "That's crazy high praise. He has somebody who likes tripling a lot, but it's great to hear. He has this golden opportunity to carve out a significant role in a Kyle Shanahan and Brock Pretty Offense. He's done everything so far to take advantage of it. I absolutely love Mike Evans, but that curve substation has his grind on messed up now too. So like all of a sudden I'm getting nervous there. And Stribling's ADP is skyrocketing like I alluded to earlier, but he's still affordable and I'm still willing to take him at cost because I think he could be another one of those rookie league winners down the stretch. If you look at real-time ADP in the last 24 hours, he's up four spots amongst receivers alone. And in the last seven days, he's up 25 spots across all positions. So that ADP has jumped two rounds just in the last week. You know, it has been a constant drum beat, right, of this helium. And the hype just kind of growing louder and louder. Right now in real-time ADP, he's just a hair outside the top 100. Is there a point mellow where it gets to be too pricey and you no longer feel like he's a good value pick? Or are you still like, we're not close to that point yet? If he moves up another two rounds, I'll probably set that one out maybe. Yeah. But right now I'm still taking that shot for sure. Yeah. Mitch, were you out on Stribling? Are you more a believer or more, you know, warrior, let's say? No, I can't believe mellow would say that, that I would be tired about hearing of Dejon Stribling. I love Dejon Stribling. And I want to give mellow his flowers because we hopped on an episode like, you know, the Monday after the draft and he has been beating the drum the entire time, saying, this guy's way too low, this guy's way too low. And here we are having the conversation of, is he getting too high? And so I'm with you. If he goes up another two rounds, okay, I can't do it. But there's already a tremendous opportunity in front of him in an offense. I love with a quarterback that I named one of my my guys for this year in Brock Pertie. And now you talk about, what if Mike Evans does miss time? What if another injury pops up? And then Stribling is going to be out there as the wide receiver won for Brock Pertie and Kyle Shanahan. Like the upside here is actually insane. And we mentioned it, even if a rookie starts out slow, we always say draft rookies don't trade them and hold on to this guy because I think he's in for a huge rookie season. Do you, this is, it's tended to be more of a running back thing. You know, Kyle Shanahan for all of his success as an offensive play collar and designer hasn't drafted very well skill position players and day two of the draft. Is that in the back of your mind at all when he, you know, especially since by consensus reached on Stribling, I mean, again, I know that's been more of a running back thing, Mitch or is that you think about that at all, I guess, when you think about Stribling, I think it was in the back of our minds closer to the beginning of the offseason after the draft. But I think just what we've seen from him so far and the way he has like established himself in camp in the preseason, he looks like the real deal. It was crazy that first preseason game I'm watching the highlights. I was like, that's just juwan Jennings. I'm literally just watching juwan Jennings. So I, I'm fired up about him. I think those concerns are out of my brain at least for now. Mellow, if you look at real-time ADP right behind does John Stribling is Josh Downe. So two guys that you have highlighted that you like, who do you prefer? I'm still probably taking downs. I think those are two guys that are a little bit under priced. I'm probably taking downs, because I think there's a better chance he gets off to a hot start, which just sort of increases his value in the trade market or, you know, whatever you want to do with him. But that's tough. I don't like that. You made me pick against a genre that was cruel. I'm kicking between your kids. Yeah. Well, I want to wrap up with just a question on generally speaking, and maybe this would have been better to do at the top of the show, probably if I was a better host. But what, what do you guys look for in a breakout receiver? Like when we sit down for an exercise and say, hey, I want to bring you guys on for an episode you want to talk about your, why do you expect to break out? Are you first thinking about these are guys that I thought were pretty good values on draft day? Are you looking at, I don't really care about ADP value. I just care about like who I really want to invest in and think is going to be awesome. Even if I want to pay up to get them, are you looking at a particular stat? Are you looking at the offenses and like the quarterbacks and the playcars first? Any direction you want to go Mellow starting with you because I was mean to you with the John Stribling and Josh that was one. Where does your mind go when you think about how do I pick a breakout receiver? Yeah, that's a really great question. I think the number one thing I go for over anything is just I want it to be somebody I believe in the talent. I think talent sort of trumps all. So that's sort of like the first qualifier for what I look for in a breakout. And beyond there, I think it's one of a few things. One is elite volume. And other is a great offensive ecosystem. Obviously, if you have both of those with the talent, I'm all the way in, but those are usually the guys that are going pretty high in drafts anyways to the point where maybe they're not such great values. Like when you look at a guy like Luther Burton, who's everyone's favorite break out this year and how pumped he's pumped up he's been in ADP. But if you can get at least one of those two things in combination with the talent, those are the guys I'm really interested in. Mitch same question. You look in talent volume environment. Where does your brain go? I obviously second everything Mellow said, but also another thing I would mention is something I always look for is how did they end last year? You know, did we start to see a breakout? Do we have something to go off of? And then more importantly, did we see any changes in the off season? Like one of my favorite things. And you know, we'll see what Ashen Gentie's health looks like. But like one of the reasons I was so steamed up on Ashen Gentie is like everyone's so upset about the rookie season. But you bring in Clint Cubiac and you shore up the offensive line. And for me, a guy that I'm also looking at that we didn't mention because you know, he's already going so high. It's like to want to Smith. What changed over the off season? AJ Brown's out of the building. Like Mellow said, we know Devonta Smith is talented. We know without AJ Brown, he commanded a 35% target share. And so I'm looking for what are those changes in the off season that are truly meaningful for like you said, Mellow, the amount of volume a guy is going to get and the offensive environment around them. So then what about the reverse? Are there any pitfalls that you feel like people tend to fall into when they are trying to identify great values that receiver, great, you know, make out candidates? Are there stats you think people look at or narratives? People are looking at Mitch that you say, actually, I don't think you should look in that direction. And you're going to fall into some traps here if you do that. One of the things we talk about the exact reverse of what I just said, discounting organizational changes. I think one of the things we've been harping on is like, we love Jackson Smith and Jigbaugh. We think he's awesome. But it can't go without being said that like Clint Cubiac's no longer there. He was partially the mastermind behind scheming up and creating this incredible season for JSN. And so when you look at these guys and you look at organizational and situational changes, it's important not to just say, well, who cares? Because this guy's talented. In a way, part of me thinks some of that with Brian Thomas Jr. last year, no one thought about the fact that Liam Cohen came in and it was going to be a completely different regime. And we saw a little bit of a different, different result for Brian Thomas. So I think not discounting organizational changes is really important. My little same question. Yeah, I think that's probably the number one thing for me as well. The one thing I'll add to that too is mispricing ambiguous situations. If there's a team where we're not really sure who the true wide receiver one is from a real life NFL perspective, but one of them is so much more highly priced than the other for whatever hype or narrative that's going around in the fantasy community. Maybe that's not the guy you should be taking the shot on. If it is just somebody you're projecting a breakup for as opposed to someone who's been there before, maybe it is the cheaper guy because those ambiguous situations. We often have a really big gap in prices between the offensive weapons when they're really shouldn't be. I'm going to ask you guys one more question. And it's a player that you guys didn't, you know, suggest talking about today, but I want to bring them up because in the last two days, I've gotten a ton of arguments with some of my co-workers on these shows about this player and the true upside here. I am a Ravens fan. Yet I am the one fading Z flowers as a big breakout this year because I am unconvinced that we are going to see the touchdowns go up to the point where that we need them to be for him to be a true like fantasy level, you know, huge step forward league winner type. Erickson disagrees with me. Debro disagrees with me. I feel like I'm fighting everybody. I'm the John Snowgift like pulling out the sword against the army. I cannot win these arguments with them. They are convinced that Declan Doyle is going to get him, you know, more touches in the red zone and you know, Ark Andrews falling off a cliff is going to get him. I'm unconvinced. What do you guys think on Z flowers? Would he have been a worthy conclusion on an episode like today, mellow, starting with you? I like Z flowers a lot. I think the touchdowns probably should go up honestly more from just like a regression standpoint than even just the play collar change, but it's the ceiling that I'm a little bit less convinced on. He's just kind of like comfort food for me. It's like you want a good like solid wide receiver to high and wide receiver to we got your guy in the third round. But I don't know that I would pick him making the bet that he's going to have a top five finish or anything like that. Mitch, I am making a bet with Erickson on our show who's going to have more touchdown catches for the Ravens this season. Mark Andrews or say flowers. He was despondent to find out that in Vegas, the line is actually favorable for Mark Andrews. His line is higher than Zays. He's like, there's no world that's happening. I think it probably will. What's it say you is is a flower is going to catch more touchdowns this year? No, I think I'm not even that high on Mark Andrews, but I actually think that's like where his value is going to be in this offense is in the red area. And so I would absolutely take him over him and just to like echo what Melo said, like I look at the receivers going around him, team act Luther Bird and Devon. to Smith, Lab McConkey, like these are all guys that I want to take a shot on the upside versus I get it. Like you're not going to go broke, take in a profit. Safe Flowers just feels like I'm trying not to lose my league pick. All right. Thank you, S. We're bearing with me on throwing in one more receiver your way. I like I said, I just, I feel like I've been taking crazy pills arguing with my coworkers. And so I wanted to get an outside of PDN here on that debate. We'll go ahead and wrap things up there. Thanks everybody for tuning in to our breakout wide receivers. 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