9/2/26: Iran Hits U.S. Bases, Global Bond Market Chaos, Ed Market Crushes Moulton

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We can expect coming down the pike in just a year or so. - Yes, so let's start with Iran yesterday. And we can put up A4 to begin with here. Yesterday around noon, the US started striking positions on the south of Iran, which would be the north side of the Strait of Hormuz. That was in retaliation, they said, for actually they said it was kind of an effort to preempt Iran, which they said was going to launch missiles into the Strait of Hormuz that would drop more minds to try to block shipping from going in and out. If you can put up A4B, this is roughly the site of a number of these strikes. One of these strikes, the one furthest to the southeast there, hit a wedding party, and we can get into that more. Because Iran then responded with a rather furious attack on US bases in Jordan, and in particular, or Biel, if we can put up A0 here, as well as elsewhere around the region, you saw the US expending kind of huge numbers of ballistic missile interceptors, and particularly in Urbiel, we can put up A1 here as well, in Urbiel, not get, this is Jordan, but in Urbiel, the base up there is on fire. So this is Jordan, you see a strike there. The fear among families of American service members is that Iran claims to have struck a marine base, which does not have a lot of expensive material or other infrastructure, and so because it's only people, therefore, it doesn't have much in the way of ballistic missile defense. And so Iran was claiming that it had produced some type of mass casualty event. There were some reports of Medevacs. We don't know yet if there were actually casualties. If you've noticed in the way that Iran has been carrying out its responses, they've been targeting primarily US kind of satellites, the helicopters, planes inside warehouses, the NSA Bahrain, where the fifth fleet is, the base there. A lot of those bases have been evacuated. Iran was targeting the military infrastructure. A couple times they have said that they have deliberately targeted personnel, and this was one of them. And they say that they did it in response to the US bombing this wedding party. This, the other time that they said we targeted personnel and that time they did kill several American service members was in response, if you remember, when the US bombs in Iranian dormitory, that was housing a bunch of like 18-year-old recruits and killed a lot of them in their sleep. So Iran said, "Okay, we are now." 'Cause they don't believe that there's a strategic purpose in killing three service members. But as a deterrent for the US attacking, either Iranian civilians or like sleeping 18-year-olds in a dormitory, they do it. So, Pete Hegseth got rid of most the entire kind of civilian protection unit very early on. There's been a lot of good reporting on this. And has said that he, it is not a concern of his, right? This is war, bad things happen in war, too bad. Stuck it up. But he is not the one that has to then bear the consequences of that. So, when he bombs a wedding party, it's these Marines in Jordan who had nothing to do with it, who now all of a sudden are just getting hit and retaliation for it. And so, this is basically the first exchange since the past month. Since reports indicated how severe our shortage was. Right, right. And so, think about what happened. We are trying to keep shipping in the southern part of the Strait of Hormuz flowing. Iran was, let's say they were gonna send some mines in there. So, we then bomb a bunch of locations along the Strait of Hormuz. They then launch a bunch of ballistic missiles at a lot of military positions, US military positions around the region. We expend a whole bunch of ballistic missile interceptors. And now here we are, it's Wednesday, Iran still has the capacity to target ships and the straight-of-her-mose. Hopefully, you know, the casualties were not significant, but we're right back to where we were, except significantly fewer ballistic missile interceptors on the part of the U.S. despite our dwindling stocks. And no quote-unquote progress towards the end of what this was supposed to be. What were we trying to do? Right. We've been saying what this was supposed to be is ridiculous because they never had a clear indication of what this war was supposed to be, speaking of which Donald Trump. Yesterday afternoon, threatened to wipe out Iran once again. Let's take a listen to you here. Just before they completed this construction, that's when these strikes took place. The president says the USS George Washington, that new aircraft carrier that arrived in theater last week, is loaded to the gills with ammunition. And he indicated that they have enough to continue this fight against Iran again, if the Iranians do decide to respond. As for any sort of possible agreement with the Iranians, but again, the latest information that we have, John, U.S. strikes are ongoing against Iran, hitting the southwestern part of the country. And the president, once again, in a call with Fox News, warning the Iranian regime if they respond to these strikes against the southwestern part of Iran, that they will be hit much harder. And again, he goes on to say if this goes for a third time, they will be wiped out as a country. Describe the Iranians as crazy and stupid. And again, the region is waiting to see if there will be an Iranian response already in Iranian state media. They are threatening retaliation against U.S. forces in the region. We also have a true social post from Trump last night. He said, I'm not trying to force Iran to the bargaining table as ABC fake news reported. I couldn't care less if they signed a worthless to them agreement. I like our position now much better with almost total control of the Hormuz straight and their economy totally collapsing. They're just playing out the inevitable. When are the Iranian people going to rise up and fight? So returning to the call for Iranians to overthrow their own government, which has maintained power since Trump, obviously. And the Israelis took out the Ayatollah all the way back on the end of February. Still, here we are in what September now. And the calls for the Iranians to overthrow their government, which has not happened in all of these months. If anything, the indication that we've gotten right is that the Iranian solidarity with each other for their country against the United States has grown, and that we're not on the cusp of another revolution. Right. But I remember we were talking about this maybe a month ago or so, and we're like, the only thing that might explain what Trump is doing here is that he knows he can't win. He refuses to lose, and he's going to do what he's done his entire life, which is just live another day and just see what happens. And I think the Israelis and some other folks are whispering in his ear that things are getting terrible in Iran and any minute now that maybe the people will overthrow the government there. And so in his mind, better to take a 1% chance at success down the road than 100 percent success of a humiliating capitulation right now. Or just don't even put yourself in the situation where you have a capitulation by starting the war. You could have done it. Yeah, but he can't go back and undo that. And so then the only price to pay there is by American service members who were in the region and by the American people who are now Brent Crude pushing above $94 as we speak. So substantially since he started this new round of conflict, diesel and the $6+ range, and then everybody in the global economy, which we're going to talk about in a minute. So those people will suffer, but he's fine and Republicans will suffer. But he's got control of the Postal Service and the Supreme Court told him it's fine to go ahead and grab like a third of the votes, or coming through or supposed to go through the mail, and Supreme Court's going to let him do that. So maybe he thinks, all right, I'll pull a couple of rabbits out of this hat. One, I will just shut down mail-in voting by my control over the Postal Service, which he has because Democrats were too stupid and cowardly to get rid of the Trump people who were in the Postal Service during the Biden years. And the Supreme Court was like, yeah, sure, go for that. Anything, maybe they'll overthrow the government. Who knows? And if they don't, who cares? Secretary of Social, he also said that these deals, he's being with Iran, are worthless to them, whether it's the MOU or other negotiations, they're worthless to them, to the Iranians. And I know it's just a passing line in his true social post. That does feel really bleak because it seems that he feels he doesn't have to really come to any conclusion in this conflict, and that he can continue, I think, what's become obvious to everybody is that he is continuing to just try and play it out, trying to make Americans feel a little bit better about their economic situation, and not cleverly or with any political smoothness whatsoever, telling people if they don't like data centers, it's their fault that they're poor, those sorts of things. It's not as though he's doing this in a really clever way, but it seems that he's just trying to coast without drawing anything to a conclusion, which, on the one hand, I suppose it means we're not in for major escalation in the near future. On the other hand, that threat remains the longer that you're actually in a hot conflict. And Congress, which is controlled in both chambers by Republicans, past a war power's resolution, requiring the war to come to an end. Right. Constitutionally speaking, that should be the end of it. Greg Meeks, who is the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said, I don't even know if he was mispeaking, or what, said he was going to sue Speaker Johnson to enforce it. Because there is a real question of, okay, you've passed your war powers resolution now, how do you enforce it? But from a constitutional perspective, this war has been ordered halted by Congress, which has war-making authority, like it's right there in the Constitution, declaring war up to them. War Powers Act gives this power to Congress. And yet, he's just pressing ahead. Mike Johnson was pressed recently on, I guess it was yesterday, on a, hey man, you're pretty sure that this thing was almost over, what happened? Here's A5. On Iran, you said repeatedly that this war was going to be over soon. You said that this would be a temporary blip on short-term, on gas prices. It is more than six months. People are getting hurt still at the pub. Should the American pub people not also judge you on your projections here that were clearly off-base? >> Manu, that is one of the stupidest questions you've ever had. >> I have nothing to do with the prosecution of the war across the globe. >> I am responsible, you are selling this to the American public, are you not? >> So should the House Speaker be held responsible for their duration of a military conflict around the globe? >> You answer that question. >> Short-term scrimmage, it is the cost of billions of dollars. >> That is such an impressive assertion of powerlessness, I thought that was a Democrat for a second. >> That was pretty. >> That was amazing. >> He also, I mean, so he's always been, this probably hasn't gotten enough coverage. His prickliness about having to defend the war, you've seen it over and over again. Like basically since it began, because what are you supposed to say to a question like that? You're the Speaker of the House, so clapping back at Manu, like what do I have to do with any of this? It's so ridiculous, but a statement on the expectation that we don't hold Congress responsible at this point for prosecuting wars around the globe. That is actually his job. He just said that he described his job, but he's saying it's not me. It was actually a description of exactly him. >> Right. Congress does not have kind of war-making powers in an advisory capacity. It's right there. >> Yeah. >> He could, he doesn't need to be sued by Greg Meeks. He could file something with the Supreme Court. He has standing. He's the House Speaker. He passed a war power's resolution. And the Supreme Court can then order that this war come to an end. And then you have a constitutional crisis if Trump insists that it continue. And then the Secretary of Defense obviously would continue to tell, you know, good Lord, whoever he puts in position to replace Driscoll. Did you see Brian Mast was being floated, like speaking of civilian casualties. This guy glories when, particularly when children have been killed in Gaza. He's like celebrated it, future terrorists is what he calls them. So this guy's being floated for Army Secretary. So at that point, so yeah, then you get a constitutional crisis because the Supreme Court is saying this war has to end, Congress has ended it. It's very clear. This requires no interpretation or Harvard law degree, like done. So you must order it. You must end it. And then, then, then you get the question of whether or not the President abides by that Supreme Court order. But unquestionably, Mike Johnson could do something. It just has no interest in doing it. >> Well, we should also pause for a moment and just not take for granted what the answer would be politically, if Republicans were in a good situation, again, politically and substantively, you would say, well, why would we stop this war? Why would I ever want to stop this war? This war is important. We are preventing nuclear catastrophe. We are protecting the homeland. He doesn't say any of that. He's like, it's not my job. He didn't say anything in defense of the war when getting pressed by Manu Raju there. He tried to deflect. And that tells you, that's the Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives, who right now obviously has his candidates around the country struggling in their midterm elections. So that tells you how behind closed doors a lot of Republicans are absolutely furious about the way that this war has gone. It's not that they don't support taking on Iran. It's that they either wish it had been faster and more furious from the beginning. And they thought it should have been escalated and should have had boots on the ground and cargillin and gone and got the nuclear dust or whatever. Or they're just deeply frustrated with the way the president is at this point, just talking and seeming like he's listless and what he actually wants to do. There doesn't seem to be any plan. The way the war was executed. I mean, everyone watching knows what I'm talking about. But I don't want to take for granted that this is the Speaker of the House who's deflecting and not defending the war like that. Right. Yeah. Why bother me with this trivial stuff? I mean, put up A8 just to give people a sense of how this is unfolding in Iran with the Iranian people. So this is Iranian state TV. These are victims of this attack on the wedding. They're saying that now that at this point, five people killed, including a four-year-old child, 63 injured of the 63, 50 were women and children. This footage that you're looking at here is Minab Hospital, which is the hospital that would have treated the girls who survived the attack on the school there. This is the same area that has now faced two of the most high-profile attacks on civilians in this war. Maybe it shouldn't be a difficult for us to comprehend how powerful the U.S. starting the war by attacking this girl's school and killing 150-plus girls has been in the kind of Iranian psyche. If you just imagine that that's how, if that happened here, like we would remember it for a century. So now to have this new attack hit this wedding party in the same town, effectively, I'm sure further in kind of inflaming Iranian resistance and the Iranian public's willingness to say, "Okay, yeah, like prices are up." Like it's certainly true that inflation is high in Iran right now. But this is from their perspective, this is what they're up against. Now there was a, some communication device that was struck about 150 yards from this. So that appears to be the target and then the second strike was this. Should we do Schumer or should we move on to it? I think we should definitely do Schumer because this was interesting, right? This was interesting. So here he is. This was on Morning Joe yesterday, struggling to explain. We just saw Mike Johnson struggling from the Republican perspective to deal with the war. This should not be that difficult for Schumer, but let's take a listen. Now, now hold a second. Okay. You got to answer my question first. Yeah. That's the thing that Iran, and I think you would agree with me, epicenter of terrorism in the world since 1979. Is it good that their military infrastructure is being degraded to the degree that it is? Yes or no? It's, you can't because it's a premature question. What is going to happen in the next several months? No, no, I can ask that question. No, no, no, no, no, I can't. So you have a military side of that, but I can show you my chart, but I think they're the way. You have the military side. You have the political side. Simply asking on the military side, is it good? Regardless of whether we agree with going in or not, is it good that Iran's military infrastructure has been seriously -- And again, I have to tell you, Joe, first, you can't -- what's going to happen three months from now? Is it worth it? What's going to happen? Will the world economy collapse? Will something happen even worse? Will the whole energy infrastructure of the world go up in smoke? So you have to -- when they do it without planning, when they do it without understanding where they're going. Senator, Senator. Where they're going. I don't think it's fair. No, it's not. It is. If you do not strategize the consequences of the action, the military action, if you obliterate and do all these things, but you don't actually play out in your minds and have strategy for the -- Let me answer the question for everybody in America. The answer, yes. It's good that the terrorist regime, their military, has been -- and capabilities have been degraded radically. Why didn't he just do what Mika did from the beginning? How uncomfortable is it also to be in the middle of their like, marital dispute, live on air? I think he sort of tried to do that. I think he was probably a little bit surprised because if you had -- if I just read a transcript and you told me that this was a middle school public access conversation, I'd be like, "Okay. These kids are trying. It's cute." And then you had a couple of adults on there as well, trying to explain to them, "Well, no, there's a thing called consequences that are inseparable from the decision." He's like, "No, no, no, no, we're not talking about consequences." We'll get to that." He was like, "Yes, if you take a lot of pills, you do actually feel really good. Isn't it true? You feel really good when you take those pills?" It's a smart question. So you should therefore take the pills, right? And be like, "Well, okay, but what if you then get in to behind the wheel and crash it and kill a lot of people?" Then you probably shouldn't have taken the pills. I'm not asking about that. I'm saying, "Did you feel good when you were on the pills?" That's it. That's all we need to do. Did you feel good when you were on the pills? That's all I'm asking. So I don't know how you talk to a child like that, because you could see it. You could see it looking at your face and you're like, "Oh, he's a child." So at that point, I was probably smiling, just let his wife handle this one. Let a lot of her to step in. Yeah, take that. 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So that green you're seeing over there is basically a record jump on the Japan 30-year note climbing over 4% just massively increasing borrowing costs and what it also does is when the Japanese 30-year now you can get right yeah it's fluctuating a little bit right there is you get about 4.2% what that means is if you're an investor and you have a French or German or American bonds that are getting less than that you sell those and you go by the Japanese ones. So now what happens over then over in the US and the France and Germany those bond prices go down this is one of the things that they'll teach you in the finance 101 when bond prices go down interest rates go up because it's you need to then entice people basically with a little higher interest rate to to get them in. We put up B2 the 10-year bond I like when they compact these charts a little bit makes it look rather dramatic. Basically a green wall of the interest rates just shooting straight up always always always comforting and we put up B3 as I was saying these these things rebound around the world so this is Reuters reporting so Japan's 10-year yield hit 3% of the first time since 1996 as the route as the route hits bond prices driving up yields and major economies around the world yields hit their highest in 15 years in Germany and their highest since 2008 in the UK in the US the 10-year yield rose 3.8 basis points to 4.0 almost 8% putting it in range of its highest levels since since 2023. COVID come down. We can put up drop sites so if people want to get this next one I think is before people want to dive deeper into this the entire economy is kind of being shaken and effectively by oil prices and we'll get into that in a second that's why this is going on but not to worry be 5. Scott Bessent which one of his delightful quotes I don't think we are in any kind of a dire situation. This is yesterday at the G20 which is being held right now in Asheville, North Carolina in the United States. And so the reason we're focusing on Japan here is not just because they had the biggest breakout yesterday but also because Bessent himself kind of kicked off this insane round of financial tumult by intervening to try to defend the Japanese yen so that there wouldn't have to be a sell-off of US Treasury bonds by the Japanese government to support their own currency. So he threw a ton of dollars into the Japanese economy and here we are. You can argue what maybe we would have been here a week ago if he hadn't done that but all of those billions of dollars flushed across the globe and we got to this position anyway we now just it's very similar metaphorically to our war in Iran. So we've shot off all of our munitions and now our stocks are that much lower and we're still in the exact same place if not a little bit worse off. Then we were before and all of this is coming back to energy prices which are filtering through the economy. The Asian countries are you know oil obviously is a global commodity but Asian countries are more reliant on oil and other petroleum products that flow through the straight-of-form moves than we are just because of geography of the situation and so you know as it's interesting how it works as prices rise because of the increasing cost of gas and diesel and oil and prices rise across the board that is registered as central bankers and and you know financial analysts as inflation because it is prices rising but think about it it's not COVID like inflation. It's inflation because there was too much spending and you know if you're going to take it from a right wing perspective it's not inflation because you had you know a COVID lockdown it's inflation because there's less oil and because there's less supply of oil still same amount of demand for it prices are going up and so then the central banks are going to try to respond by trying to crush what they call demand destruction so they're going to try to okay we can't increase supply it is what it is we're going to war about this so let's let's make sure there's less demand and for there to be less demand we have to slow down the economy yeah we have to throw people out of work give people fewer hours cut their wages make things make borrowing make it hard to buy yeah make make make borrowing and credit more difficult for businesses to get so that there's just less economic activity and then people will try to buy less oil because they have less money and then you keep prices down but think about that less construction less investment yeah you're trying to financially engineer your way out of a problem that is obviously just physical there aren't enough tankers of oil getting through this trade of her moves because we had an MOU and we decided not to abide by it and so so people who hold bonds see that the European Central Bank next week is expected I think there's a 95 percent certainty they're going to raise interest rates the analysts think that the Japanese Central Bank is going to raise interest rates so then because they expect those interest rates to go up they think that the bonds that they're holding will then be they'll they'll go down in price because interest rates go up bonds go down in price so they sell them get rid of these bonds because these are dogs you need to get rid of get these off my books and that then kind of drives the cycle a little bit faster pushes the price down pushes interest rates up in anticipation of this of these coming rate hikes and so in order to rescue this like broken economy we're going to make the economy worse like that's literally the it's it's it's crazy because just this time last year Trump was pushing for Kevin Warsh specifically to go into the Fed and take interest rates down and he gave the speech in Jackson Hall that suggests he's going to raise interest rates yeah what I mean he none of the people around him would think he should do otherwise because this is just the autopilot way we've managed the economy for the last whatever 100 years but this is exactly what Donald Trump wanted to not happen he wanted to come back and get interest rates down have a booming economy even better than he felt was reflected in his first term and so much so that he was expending significant political capital going after Jerome Powell like the significant political capital trying to prosecute him yes and like not that it matters too much to him but breaking all the established norms about how the president went just really since the Nixon era were I guess the Carter era but like breaking all of these norms about how the president talks to the ahead of the Fed and here he is because he decided to launch the war it's the opposite of what he was hoping to happen at this time a year ago and there's no light at the end of the tunnel whatsoever he's trying on the supply side we can put B6 up this is a drop site post where he said we are unleashing American energy dominance on true social and drop site rights Trump declared that the White House was unleashing American energy dominance and a post after he met major oil refiners at the White House on Tuesday said yesterday hoping to find a way to expand capacity and lower surging fuel prices which threatened higher inflation and lower economic growth participants at that White House meeting included marathon petroleum philips 66 chevron delic us holdings pbf energy valero energy and others according to the financial times they promoted deregulation the White House did exemptions from bio field requirements for smaller fineries and you guessed it increased Venezuelan crude supplies as ways to lower costs so now they're betting on Venezuelan Ryan yeah and and so he brought in all of these oil executives which is reminiscent of Biden once in a while during his tenure he was trying to jawbone very gently and quietly and I wish he would have done a lot more job I mean people were joking that he was like next he was gonna like if you remember jawbone the guys whose job it is to change the numbers on the actual like sign outside the gas station come on come on jack come on man but the financial times and its coverage of it includes a photo of a diesel selling for 745 a gallon that's California a little you know it's price you're out there but there is no kind of rural economy in the United States, that works at 745 a gallon for diesel, because diesel is what goes into, and so, you know, tractors, you know, trucks, like major equipment, like the. Everything. Yes. And we're now heading into the fall, which is, you know, planting season for some crops and harvest season for others, and you're going, and that's, and the inputs for fertilizer and diesel for this kind of surge of energy intensive activity are breaking the back of communities all across the country for what? For what? For. Iran has already said they don't want a nuclear weapon, like, what, why are you losing your farm? What for? The average AAA, AAA's average diesel price across the country right now is 5.69. Better than 749. A year ago. Better than 749. A year ago. It was 369. Right. Two. Two-buck increase over the course of the year, which is having all of the ripple effects that you just described around the world, not just here. Yeah. But, Trump, um, he yelled at the gas guys, so. And he has. He owns Venezuela now. He owns Venezuela. He's also said that he's going to top off the strategic petroleum reserve with Venezuela and oil. Like, we tried that before. It didn't work. It's too heavy. It doesn't work with the caves that we use for our reserves. Like, it's just. Can't do that. And also, they produce about 1.5 million barrels a day because of this massive disinvestment. That. You're not turning that up next week. Like, with massive investment, you could turn it up in a year, maybe. Even then, it wouldn't be able to fill the strategic petroleum reserve. So. It's not even a short-term solution. Just. Just delusional. Yeah, it's not even a short-term band-aid. Yeah. Like, A, we can't actually pump more next week. B, it doesn't work in our petroleum reserve. So all you can do is try to decrease demand. Right. Which means you need less money. Like, they believe that you have too much money that you're spending in the economy. And so, they're going to try to engineer it such that things cost more for you and you have less money and less work, less labor. So that then you travel less, you use fewer resources and that drives down prices of things. Which is why Mike Johnson did not want to answer that question about the war when he was asked. We covered that earlier in. Which is why it's good. Our first month is free. It's breakingpoints.com. That's what this is actually about, though. That's. You thought the free month subscription trial was just us being benevolent. Actually, trying to reduce inflation. Yeah. We do our part. Speaking of the political ramifications of all of this, let's move on to the midterms. I'm Munga Shategater and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. And what it really means to live forever for all of us. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a 4-5-year acceleration. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. They say it works. I don't know. 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Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never set expectations for something like that. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway to be honest with you. I was like, is that what you need? Nope. It's a fragile masculinity. Yeah. Ben Stiller, no. I think there's a lot of times out of context, people don't get it, or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? Like you're like, oh, it's so stupid. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right. Fake, and also not interested, or just like, oh, I've got my life, I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show, and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Humiliating defeat for Seth Molten in the Massachusetts Democratic Senate primary yesterday. The margin, as we are sitting here right now, is a 30 point resounding, 30 point defeat for Senate hopeful Seth Molten representative, Seth Molten looks like 65 to 35, roughly, the margin of victory for Ed Markey about 30 points, Ryan, you're surprised by this. Not surprised by this. In fact, you're not even surprised by that margin. I'm a little surprised by the margin. In fact, I have proof that I'm not surprised. I was on Raging Moderates with Jessica Tarlov. Of course. Yesterday. No. Monday. Oh, drop sites, biggest fan at Fox News. Well, it's not much competition. But yes, she's kind of the progressive host on, I guess, liberal moderate host or whatever, on the five. It's probably fair to call progressive. I think so, but her, just thanks to the podcast called Raging Moderates, so it's confusing. So we talked about this race and I said, no, I think he's going to win by 30 plus. You said 30 plus? Yeah. Incredible vindication. The vindication of Ryan Group. There you go. This is the mood that the public is in right now. They want people like Markey. If you are completely just DC-brained, I think Nearotanin was saying, maybe there's not actually an ideological conflict going on in the Democratic Party. It's actually generational and that would explain why Tom Steyer lost in California and she said it would partly explain some of New York City. But I guess Espayat is old, so that would, and Cuomo's older than Mamdani, I guess, was her thinking. It's not tried too hard to understand Nearotanin. Desperate rationalization going on. So if that was the case, that it's really generational and not ideological, the 80-year-old Ed Markey versus the very young and healthy looking stuff. We have a good photo of Seth Moulton. We actually have a video because to your point, Seth Moulton seemed to understand maybe too late in his campaign where the mood of the public was because he, I think at one point, tried to, not at one point, but I think while he was considering running, he saw himself as somebody who could be a bridge from Woke One, I guess, into the future for Democrats. No, it was just in the Trump resistance. Right. And he's a big. That is absence of any other substance. Exactly. Yes. And he's a big MS now guy. He's on there all the time. And I think he realized that he needed too late in his campaign that he needed to channel this angry energy and maybe convince people tonally that he was aligned with the angry, I don't know, DSA, and I don't see angry, say angry there, pejoratively. I think we're all angry right now, but he needed. to make people think he was with them sent in sentiment. So he put out this video when the awful ice situation in Maine was happening a couple of months ago, and he's giving like horrible theater kid, like failed theater kid energy trying to convince voters that he's going to be really tough. Let's roll C1B. If you don't think this is fucked up, you don't know what it means to be an American. And every one of us should be angry right now in this moment and willing to stand up for our values. The values that have always made this country great. And anyone who's just letting these mega-autocrats get away with this needs to fight or get out of the way. It's time for us to stop this. So if you're on your way to Maine right now, thank you. If you're standing up and fighting in your community, thank you. If you're doing everything you can to protect our values, thank you. But if you're someone who can do more, then we need to do more. We need to do more right now because lives are on the line. Lives are getting lost because what, he used his Prius as a weapon at two and a half miles an hour. That's just an excuse to shoot somebody. That's what's going on. These thugs wanted to shoot someone like they're patrolling the Warsaw ghetto in 1941. That's bullshit and it needs to stop. I don't think he believes a word of what he said there, Ryan. Like even if as most Massachusetts voters do, you agree with him on that. The ghetto was pathetic. It felt like he was reading, well, he was obviously reading off of the script. But it felt like he was doing an act. Yeah. I agree with every word of what he said. But yeah, there's something about it that just doesn't. He's putting on this like Mr. Tough Guy armor. Like it's going to convince people that he's actually more hardcore than Ed Markey. Yeah. And he spends so much of, he spends so much of his, or equals to past tense at this point of his political effort, going after the party's left, that it kind of undermines your sense that he really is committed to this cause. Right. It's like what's more important to you is that this intramural stuff or is it that? And so now, I ought to pressly, I think if she had run, then I think we're talking about a different potentially different outcome. And I think that tells you, cause I could say that too, it tells you that some of it, the generational stuff is not nothing. People do look at folks who have parked out in the House of the Senate for many years with some baked in skepticism. But Ed Markey did against Seth Milton enough to overcome any of that. Yeah. Yeah. And in 2020 gave him this incredible progressive glow up. He was the co-sponsor, the lead sponsor of the Green New Deal for them. And it is still glowing. Like it's pretty incredible, you know, what that youth movement was able to do such that now they're starting to lose their hair. And he's still benefiting from what they had done for him. We can run through a couple of the other races and Massachusetts. If I had more time, if there was more hours in the day, I really wanted to cover, and I feel bad about this, not covering the Richie Neal race. This was a race I covered back in 2020 when he got challenged by Alex Morse as top Democrat on the ways he means. Committee very powerful, kind of right wing pro corporate, private equity owns a ton of Western Massachusetts homes, because this is the Berkshire's. So it's this crazy situation where people with vacation homes have ended up really kind of becoming dominant in an area. And I think Richie Neal's pro private equity, whether they buy second or third homes in the Berkshire's or not, but he stands in a way of a lot of progressive stuff going through the powerful ways of means committee. And Jeremy Whale, who challenged him currently within 7,000 votes, they've called it for Richie Neal, but extremely close challenge to one of the most powerful Democrats in the house. And that got very little attention. Neal romped in Springfield, heavily working class Hispanic town. He won by 30 points, that's the biggest city in that biggest, and it's a very pover city in that district, didn't almost gave him his entire margin. Springfield Massachusetts, couple other, let's see, a couple other races. When we covered, it was the Dan Co versus Tram Wynn. We interviewed Jamie Belstito, who had said that when she went to Washington, she was told by Lois Frankel that they desperately wanted a woman to represent this seat. It was an open race to replace Seth Moulton, and that she could have the support of all of these women's groups, but she also had to take all of this crypto AI and APAC money, which then is funneled through Lois Frankel's super PACs, which are called elect democratic women and pro choice majority action. She said no, and so she ended up finishing fourth. Tram Wynn ended up getting this kind of progressive support through these women's groups, but she ended up losing by about 12 points to Dan Co, who was a former Biden official, and interestingly, he was Marty Walsh's chief of staff, and then went to the Transportation Department with, as kind of the number two to Marty Walsh, he campaigned on being endorsed by Biden and Kamala Harris, which is interesting, and it worked for him. He's at 41%, it's been called for him. Did a reverse dialyza. Right. This is the northern North Shore, it's like north of Boston. Interestingly, he used to work for the Huffington Post as Arianna's Huffington's chief of staff back in like 2011 or something. From Arianna Huffington's chief of staff to Marty Walsh, and what a-- So I've known Dan for, since he was like a 22-year-old little upstart, impressive sharp kid. Now he's on his way to Congress. Since it was called Huffington Post. He also got a bunch of-- right. He also got $600,000 in support from the bad AI SuperPack, leading the future. I think it's called something like that, LTF, or the sister pack of that one, so that's a win for that AI SuperPack. Jake Aachenklaus sent it up. He had a challenger who had like zero money. He ended up with 70%, I believe. No, he's at 73%. Jason Poulos with no money at all at 27%, so he's just like he's vulnerable to like an actual challenge. I haven't looked at this down ballot ones. I know that kind of Beacon Hill establishment was under a lot of threat. We can look at those later, but I would suspect that a bunch of those were successful. Oh, and then Steven Lynch. He was getting the most spirited challenge from this Patrick Rohath, longtime Congressman, like kind of a classic Massachusetts archetype, this union mechanic who's socially conservative. And old at this point, and so he ended up winning by, it looks like 10 points, or he's up by 10. It's been called. That was one that they thought they were going to knock off an incumbent, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen. We're almost out of primary season, not quite out of primary season, so we have New Hampshire coming up next week. We have a guest coming in just one moment, but worth also mentioning that a new poll out of Michigan yesterday, this was a Michigan state. If you go for poll, we can put this last element up on the screen C2, had Abdual Sayed up 5 points over mic Rogers in Michigan, and this account Interactive Polls points out, basically only one poll, major poll released in August, had mic Rogers up. That was a Fox News poll that had Rogers up 3 points, I'm on the RCP average right now, and similarly only one poll that they've indexed over the course of the last month had Rogers up. New's poll and Al Sayed in the RCP average is up 2.3 points, so he took over the lead in the RCP average mid August, and the numbers have kept going up for him. It's not going in the opposite direction, it's not tightening, the race is actually widening if you're looking at the real-cut politics average right now. And I suspect that's what we thought it was going to be after the primary is that Rogers had consolidated total Republican support, 98, 2 or whatever, whereas right after this bruising primary, Al Sayed, there was still some skepticism, and despite the establishments, party establishments, best efforts, the resistance to him seems to be dissipating, he's genuinely reflecting in every possible direction to try to say, I'm not a threat to you, come on, let's all come together and beat Mike Rogers, and a lot, most Democrats at this point seem to be thinking, okay, yeah, let's do that. Meanwhile, it certainly helps him that Trump wants to launch a trade war with Canada, major trading partner, particularly when it comes to the auto industry. If Trump isn't stopped in this mania, he will destroy their like Michigan. in auto industry because it's designed such that the parts are moving back and forth like a dozen times before they finish making the car and if you have to pay a tariff on that every time forget it you can't compete or you can just reshore right not by November no certainly not by November not that that's a really bothering Trump at the moment not unseemly bothering plus yeah he seems to be fine just keeping his war going indefinitely yes he does it to be fine doing that and mic roger's is stuck in that bind where he can't say a word against trump because trump is willing to lose a senate race rather than allow somebody it's like a pretty standard it's all the senate race all the senate races it's a standard thing in politics for like a keem jeffries or a mic johnson or nancy Pelosi bipartisan habit be like look if you need to distance yourself from me in your race because I'm unpopular go ahead and do it mm-hmm like that is a thing that party leaders have been doing of course including presidents nancy Pelosi forever yeah but trump's like no I don't care how much it hurts you you are by my side mic rogers mm-hmm you're right on the back of this bomb with your cowboy hat in the air riding it all the way to the ground sure is well let's talk about new hamster I'm mungusha together and I'm back with a new season of the podcast skyline drive this time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides organoids blood boys blue zones and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us I learned about some rad science I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain here's some hard truths I would expect Indians to age faster but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration and get myself into a world of trouble I'd say probably 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podcasts see you between the pages so in New Hampshire Chris Papas congressman from Maine's I guess first district is running for the United States Senate and what has been a sleepy race from a national perspective but all of a sudden people have started to notice that he has a challenger who depending on whose polls you take more seriously is either significantly behind or catching up at a furious pace and that is Karishma Munzor a physician from New Hampshire who is challenging Papas from his left she's joining us she's joining us now doctor Manzor thank you so much for being here thank you so much Ryan may I make a minor correction yes I'm more a physician I'm a scientist so yeah tell us about your background I have a PhD in biochemistry and molecular biology and I worked in clinical research for about 20 years I specialized in epilepsy and depression and I loved being a scientist but several years of the last several years I've also been volunteering in the nonprofit sector here in New Hampshire and the two big nonprofits that I'm involved with our peace action because we need to fix this war economy it's destroying our communities causing massive death and destruction across the world and burning down our planet the other nonprofit that I'm involved with is open democracy action and we've been trying to get big money out of politics so I'm a scientist as well as a nonprofit leader and non-running for the United States Senate and so what is that what has been the thing or the things that have enabled you to kind of you know gain some significant traction heading into is it and is it it's next week is that right I can't keep up all the progress goodness okay yes so you know it's it seems like it's a serious race I've heard my sources have said that popus is kind of frustrated with the kind of Washington establishment that they haven't come in kind of to help them in the primary but the the counter argument from someone Washington has been that it actually wouldn't help him that Washington putting its thumb on the scale would actually probably benefit his challenger more so what has it been you know what what are you finding on the ground are the kinds of things that are that are resonating we are offering commonsense policies I think over the course of the last several decades we've forgotten what public service should be about it is about improving people's lives right here in our communities so we have a housing crisis a child care crisis a health care crisis because too many of our congress members are answering to their donors and no longer working for the American people and that is exactly why I'm running I'm from the people and we're just frustrated with congress members who are not working for us anymore I'm offering actual commonsense solutions we need livable wages our federal minimum wage has not kept up with the cost of living we need a federal minimum wage of at least 20 dollars an hour we need to pass Medicare for all we need to pass universal child care and we need to protect and fund social security and at the same time we have to stop wasting billions of dollars killing children overseas and instead use that money to feed and educate our own children so that is why our commonsense platform is resonating with people across New Hampshire and they're rising up yeah when you're out campaigning what are the top issues that people bring up to you what do they suggest they care most about right now so from as when we just present our campaign a lot of times people like us just because they're frustrated with Chris Papas and just the fact that he hasn't opponent even without even understanding our platform is enough to convert someone to becoming a supporter the other is the when they hear the word progressive that has a lot of positive connotation right here in New Hampshire most people are progressives the democratic base and Bernie Sanders won New Hampshire in 2016 2020 presidential primary and people have a lot of respect for Bernie still here in New Hampshire so that I'm that Chris I'm a opponent of Chris Papas that I'm a progressive a scientist a peace activist that I'm fighting for Medicare for all this resonates with people across the political ideology because people are suffering from the health care crisis the fact that I'm not taking a single cent from super PACs corporate PACs APAC resonates very well people want honest candidates on Islam makers and the fact that I am speaking out against the genocide that's going on in the Middle East so for multiple reasons folks are moving towards becoming supporters the biggest challenge is name recognition, so the poll you quoted still shows that nearly 40 percent of the people in New Hampshire still don't know enough about me, and that's what we're trying to bridge in the next few days. And the story of how your family got over to the United States is on the one hand kind of highly unusual, on the other hand, familiar. Can you talk a little bit about your family background and your father and then how your family wound up in the U.S.? Sure, actually, my story starts even before my birth. In 1971, there was a war of independence in Bangladesh. Three million Bangladeshis were slaughtered in nine short months, and that level of atrocity was only possible because of U.S. made weapons. I lost family members in that war, including my mother's 19-year-old brother was killed. So, I grew up in a broken family. I was born in 1994, but it was already a broken family. They never really recovered from all the losses, and that was true for many families across the country. Unfortunately, in 1981, ten years after the war of independence, my father, major general Muhammad Abu Manzuh was assassinated. My mother, my siblings and I were arrested. I was only seven years old, and we faced years of political persecution in Bangladesh, and my mother kept saying the only country in the world where we could seek refuge was the United States. And that's one of the greatest paradoxes, the kindness and generosity of the American people and the failures of the American government. So, it was a very difficult process for a widow to bring four children to the United States, but we found safety here. But like many working class families, we were working four dollars, 25 cents an hour. That was the minimum wage back then. I was working seven days a week, multiple jobs, just a pay rent, whatever was left over was for food. And like millions of Americans, we did not have access to healthcare. Unfortunately, my mother and my sister were suffering from chronic illnesses. And going without access to healthcare for several years had a profound impact on their bodies. And like thousands of Americans, they both died young. So, when I talk about the need for livable wages, affordable housing, universal healthcare, and a foreign policy that's not based on war profiteering. I'm talking about personal experience because I don't want any family to suffer the way my family has. One of the things that you've been criticized for has not been living in New Hampshire long enough, which is a little bit ironic given the life history. If you've been in New Hampshire for generations, your father wouldn't have been kind of a Bangladeshi war hero. It's just the fundamental contradiction you can't untangle there. So, how do you respond to people on the campaign trail? Because we still have this kind of parochial sense of particularly in New England, someone's not a New Englander until they've been there unless they came off the Mayflower or whatever. So, how do you respond to that skepticism from voters? So, New England, I've had roots in New England for a while. So, I arrived in Massachusetts. I finished high school in Massachusetts, but in New Hampshire I've only been living here for about five, six years now. But more than 50% of the people in New Hampshire were not born in New Hampshire. So, that's something. But I think it's more the detractors that are making this an issue, but most people don't even care because I'm just the face of the campaign. It is not just about one person. This is about taking on the war economy, taking on the corporations, taking on Benjamin Netanyahu and war profiteering. So, I represent so much more than just one person. Again, I'm only the face of the campaign. Behind me are thousands of people. Some were born in New Hampshire, have lived here for generations, and some have other different levels of status. What we are representing is common sense policies to improve people's lives. Right here in New Hampshire, we are representing honest and unbought campaign that is only answering to the people of New Hampshire, not corporations, not foreign aligned lobbies like APEC. And the most important part is we are trying to reclaim our power from the destruction of our government by influence of foreign people like Benjamin Netanyahu. What response? I mean, I'm actually just curious about this because particularly since COVID, a lot of working-class rural voters are skeptical. First of all, the medical establishment, as I'm sure you're familiar with, and also just of people who they see as maybe elites. And I'm curious how that maybe has come up. If it has at all on the campaign trail, how you deal with maybe any skepticism that may be lingering among people who are extra sensitive and skeptical right now of folks coming in from the medical establishment or from academia? So I have traveled across New Hampshire for the last year. Our state is not very big and I've yet also still covered 38,000 miles. That's how many miles I've put on my van, 38,000. I've gone to almost every single town several times to many of these towns and cities. I have heard, talked to thousands of people, I would don't even remember anyone asking about it online. I sometimes see questions about COVID, but I don't think that is the pressing issue here. What people want to know is how can we improve their lives? We have a housing crisis, which is extremely severe. There are people who can't, who are living with multiple people in a, in an apartment or a house, but they're not enough bedrooms. So sometimes people are sleeping on a couch or in the closet, like literally in the closet. Sometimes people just don't have enough to eat to stretch their social security check or any of their income to the end of the month and are eating cereal for the last few days. These are the real issues. People who have cancer but cannot afford treatment. There are two choices. Either they mortgage their homes or they just die. These are the real problems in New Hampshire and across this country. People are not, I'm not hearing necessarily stories from the five years ago. The other thing that people are realizing is that money going away to bomb people overseas is money not in our community and they want that money to come back. A lot of people are also realizing the harm that these packs are doing, whether corporate packs, super packs or foreign online lobbies like APAC. A lot of times, more of the questions come up as the money. Who are your donors? Are you just as corrupt as Chris Papas? And the answer is no God. Chris Papas, whatever you want to think of him as a person, represents the corruption in Congress. He talks about getting big money out of politics. The only way he can get big money out of politics is if he resigns from Congress because he is big money in politics. And so those are more the questions that I'm receiving about foreign policy, the money. The Iran War, the attacks on Palestine, Lebanon, Benjamin Netanyahu's influence on our foreign policy. Interestingly, those are really the key issues that people are worried about hearing of him, sure. And your opponent, Jon Senuno, is related to the very popular governor, Chris Senuno. And the Republicans had tried to get Chris Senuno to run. He refused to do so. So, Senuno, Jon Senuno himself used to be a senator lost in 2008. I would assume a decent number of voters think Jon Senuno is Chris Senuno. So, how do you go up against, this is a race that Democrats, I think privately, are quite concerned about regardless of who the Democratic nominee is because the Senuno's are so popular in New Hampshire. It's going to be a very close race. How do you challenge that kind of popular dynasty in this moment? So, what I'm trying to explain to people is the concept that we have political dynasties is undemocratic. Just that alone tells you that we are suffering from undemocratic actions right here in New Hampshire. The Shaheen family and the Papuses, that's one dynasty that's controlling the Democratic Party, and the Senuno's are controlling the Republican Party, and both of them are suppressing any kind of challenges from the grassroots campaign. It is shameful that once Senuno after and others always in our ballots, that's not democratic. They have millions of dollars. Can they go off to the sunset and just enjoy their money and just leave us alone? Because in the middle of all this, there are billionaires that are funding both the Senuno's and the Shaheen's and the Papuses. So, we are just pawns on the chessboard, but we're not even on the chessboard. This game is being played and we're not part of it. So, what we are trying to explain to people is that the corporations own these corporate politicians, whether it's the Papuses, the Jefferies, the Schumer's or the Senuno's, and we need all of them to be removed from power, from being considered as candidates. So, right now, my main opponent is Chris Papus, a genocide enabler with a D after his name, and on the other side, the Republican is John Senuno, who is a friend of a convicted pedophile within our after his name, and they both represent the corruption and the problems with our system of governance. And this is why in the richest country in the world, there are people sleeping in the streets, people are dying of cancer treatment, people are senior citizens are losing their houses, because these kinds of corporate politicians are ruining our communities. All right, Karishan-Manzoar, candidate for Senate in New Hampshire, the election is coming. to say thanks so much for joining us. - Thank you. - Thank you very much, thank you. 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