#85 Robert Edward Grant Decodes the Nature of Reality

What do you think's coming enough people the likes of which we have never Experienced in our lifetime. We have the world famous polymath Robert Edward Grant How did you get to the point where you're doing the work? You're doing raising consciousness and decoding the nature of reality Wow It's a good question. I was president of Allergan Medical at the time which is a big pharma company making products like Botox a household name And then I had a crisis in 2016. I started realizing wait a minute every time I get close to the edge Somehow there's always a rabbit. Maybe it's not so much that there's some magic thing here But that it's all just predestined as if we're living a script The one source creator divides itself into the many for the joy of observing itself through our unique eyes of perspective And the outer world around you is less of a universe and more of a you inverse Math without meaning is just information, but math with meaning can become divine communication The past and the present determine the future but the future determines the past and the present It's a mathematical equation by learning geometry You start to move into higher consciousness by getting inside the great pyramid and I'm standing there I had a flashback of being an entirely different timeline. I haven't actually taken anyone through that before on the podcast So what does that mean? Oh, that's taking down the rabbit hole That's please do Welcome to the Astrid for Squares podcast. I'm your host, Tony adult and I'm Cody blue And if you like what we're doing here, please hit the subscribe button. It helps us out a lot It's free to do and it keeps us up having these strange and far-out conversations and on today's episode We have the world famous polymath Robert Edward Grant brother. Thank you for being on we appreciate you to be here with you guys We are so excited to dive into all the things that you talk about Yeah, right over Ali. Yeah, long time fan and supporter of your work All right, you're brilliant and we would love to just start by anchoring your story in the beginning Like how did you get to the point where you're doing the work? You know, I think it was It was a path that was already set And I didn't used to believe that I used to believe that we all kind of like make our own choices And I still do believe that you know We have a certain aspect of our lives that we call free will but actually I believe that even what we will choose is known by the higher self and so from that context it's like Even every single thing that we do is no longer really important about the reason for doing it is The bigger question why did we choose what we chose because we're choosing it just in a higher capacity And so for me when I look back on my life now I see all the dots starting to connect Whereas I couldn't see how they all connected when I was living them at the moment I was living them in So now at almost 57 years old. It's like Starting to see things in a different perspective and I can see things from a zoomed-out perspective I think too often we get too close to the tree to see the forest Yeah, and then we we start calling things coincidence When actually nothing's coincidence everything was planned Down to a minute level of detail as if we're living a script and we're being directed by us the director The producer the script writer as well as the actor on the stage We like to talk about this way and it comes to like say Iawaska or something like that The thing that happens a lot is life review and you start seeing how everything in your life is connected to led you to this exact moment So it's absolutely what you're talking about. It's like you finally get to see the divine game that is being played and Then every single day you get to start looking oh look at the Synchronisties look at the things around me and you get to see how Finally tuned everything is around us, which is like the 11 11 on your wrist. Yeah Was there an inflection point for you where things shifted sort of an inciting incident or a catalyst where you went from the ordinary world to the Special world well, we all kind of go through our own heroes journey, right? So you guys worked in film where you have worked you know quite a lot to still do. I'm believing in film and And so you know that the hero's journey is the the core story for pretty much every would be successful film and so I think that there is a stage But I don't believe that it's only one. I think it's a cascade of events That sort of start off as fractals and then lead to this sort of climactic event that You know is the entrance into what you refer to as a special world and for me I think that was really starting commencing around 2008 And then you know, I was I was president of Allergan Medical at the time, which is a big pharma company And I was you know in my 30 so I was like 37 or something like that years old and um, I I live in this high flyer life In the beauty business of all things. Yeah launching products like juviderm and and making products like Botox a household name And that was kind of like my life and now I look back on it I kind of have to chuckle because I'm like how in the heck did I end up in that situation But I started realizing that's what I'm saying that every single thing that we live Is pre ordained like literally every detail of it Even down to the fact that when I was born I was born in which tough falls on May 16th which is 137th day of the year on leap years Which has significance later on which I'll go into and And and when I was born there every year once a year they have like one baby in this hospital Uh, get presented with a silver spoon And I happen to be the baby that gets a silver spoon Why I have no idea why I got the silver spoon right My mom tells me the story of it. I have it on my wall because it's still like a funny thing with the newspaper article and everything that I got I was born with a silver spoon my parents were not wealthy. They were quite poor in fact at the time And yet I was born with a silver spoon and my mother swears by the fact that Every time I face certain challenges in my life right feels like I was gonna fall into a pile of shit and she calls it I would somehow somehow emerge out of it stronger and better off for having felt fell into it and and so I think that there's something To life that's like that that we definitely have certain Aspects that are from our zodiacal you know placements or whatever that you would basically look at on your natal chart that then lead to certain consequences of your life down to that level of degree And it's true also with human design. It's also true with uh with jinkies and it's the mathematics of the universe So I tend to look at it and say you know everything is preordained and It's very comforting when you finally come to that realization because once you finally do then you realize You're just living your path. You're just an actor on the stage that's playing out the process of of forgetting and then remembering again Because if we think about it The one source creator divides itself into the many for the joy of observing itself through our unique eyes of perspective And why is that? Why would it need to do that? Because an eye can't see itself without the aid of a mirror a light can't light itself a fire can't burn itself a knife can't cut itself Likewise, consciousness cannot perceive itself without dividing itself into the mirrors that we are And what it's really learning about it's experiencing the concepts of limitation From the construct of being immortal and being eternal You can't ever in omniscient omnipotent omnipresent being cannot experience limitation And so it comes here through us in order to experience the concept of limitation What's it like to ask a question that I don't already know the answer to? What's it like to experience the lover's gaze for the first time and not know if it's going to be there tomorrow or not? What's it like to play a game of poker and And not know the hand that would be dealt and how you would respond to that hand and how I would respond to that hand Because if we're playing chess and it becomes clear that I'm already going to beat you in seven moves And I've got you a checkmate. We stop playing now. There's no pointing continuing the game It's no fun So we have to come here to have forgetfulness So that we can experience what it's like to remember And as we remember who we are then we start to put all the puzzle pieces together and start to see how all the dots actually do connect in our life But it takes a while for us to get to that point and you've got to go through the stages of The crisis you've got to go through the loss of the mentor You've got to go through the 17 stages that are you know very well articulated in the heroes journey So if you think that we have a divinely Created plan for our life right inside this game then what do you think free will is? What I actually I'll go to it from the opposite perspective first What we call destiny is what I would call the free will of the higher self So it's still you. See, we are dimensionally like I believe we're dimensionally limited avatars, experiencing this game of limitation, so that we can experience life as we are, 'cause what we experience on earth is not what it actually is. What we experience is what we are. You don't see the world as it is, you see it as you are. So all your biases, all your conditionings, everything is basically projected to your outer world. And the outer world around you is less of a universe and more of a you inverse. So from that context, we're all living our own world. We're all living our own experience. And there's no such thing as an objective experience. - Yeah. - I've never had an objective experience. I've only ever had subjective experiences. I've had moments in my life where I was narcissistic enough to believe that my experience was entirely objective. Maybe we call that science. - What was the experience? What was the moment where you realized this? Where you went, when you shift to this divine perspective, where you were seeing things from a higher state of conscious, you were seeing the interconnectedness of everything. - I think, you know, I really started around 2008, 2009, 2010. It was a very slow but sure arc. And then I had a crisis in 2016, where everything I had done was called into risk. And so I built up this career. I've been very successful. I've been the high fire and done all the things that I wanted to do and I built a unicron company that took off and all of a sudden, like 18 months, it was at $200 million in sales. And then I took on some investors that were venture capital investors and as they often do, you know, there's a reason why they call it Vulture Capital. And I've not taken any money from any venture capitalists since then and I somehow have avoided it like the plague. But they got to a point where they wanted to see in the world of venture here's how it actually works. If everything happens as the CEO says, then the VC is gonna make 2X their money. Maybe 3X if they're lucky. If the CEO hits a bump in the road, then the VC can make five times their money. And if the CEO hits two bumps in the road, then the VC can make 10 times their money. Now, you might think that sounds very counterintuitive. Well, that's why it works because nobody really understands how this truly works. And what they have is something called anti-dilution ratchet protection. So when they invested a certain valuation of the company, if the valuation can be forced to go down, then they can re-hypothicate their investment at the lower valuation. And the way they do this is by enforcing that no one else knew is allowed to invest in the company. If the company runs out of cash because there's, you know, the IPO markets are delayed, something else happens, you know, in the exogenous sort of market, then all of a sudden they can try to push you to re-value the company to lower valuation. But in so doing, that's called a cram down. And in so doing, you end up losing control of your company because if the valuation can be pushed down a lot, say from a billion dollars down to 200 million, then their 50 million that went in goes from having only call it a three or four percent ownership at a billion dollar valuation, post money, to having a 25% ownership and effective control over the company if they could push it down to 200 million dollars. - Wow. - So they very often have perverse incentives to that are misaligned with the management of the company. So I went through one of these and I had 24 hours to raise $55 million from my current investor base where I was gonna lose control of the company. - Oh my God. - And I thought for sure I was done. I didn't think that I could do it. I thought I was totally impossible. And they enforced a no new investor right. - Mm-hmm. - So I'm like, geez, what do I do now? And I thought I was like cooked. And then literally at the very last second I pulled a rabbit out and I raised all the money. But I took it at a three X preference, which is like, imagine I had to take personal debt, right? At $55 million and I put 15 million of it in. And then the other 40 million was another investor who was already current investor in the company. And I had to pay back to everybody three X money in 18 months. - Oh my God. - So nobody does that. That's like putting your balls on the line in a major way, right? And you're just like waiting to get castrated. And but somehow I did it. And then 18 months later I paid it all back. - Well, that's a little of a spoon, right? That's a little of a magic. - That's right. There's sort of a magic aspect of it that I started realizing, wait a minute. Every time I get close to the edge, somehow there's always a rabbit. I'm always waiting for that rabbit. There's always something. And I started realizing maybe it's not so much that there's some magic thing here but that it's all just predestined and planned. So I can learn why it shows what I chose. And I believe we learned through opposites here. So if you're here to learn unconditional love that the thing you're gonna experience over and over again will be betrayal. Because it's the opposite of unconditional love. And until the moment has come that you have actually learned to accept betrayal as a concept, even though you might be super triggered by betrayal. Until you're no longer triggered by it and you can learn to accept it, you've not really learned the concept of unconditionality of love. - Oh, polarity. - The only way for me to make them disappear and go away and stop is to stop being so triggered by them. And I think this is the reckoning that mankind's going through right now. - This episode is proudly sponsored by four visions. - Finally, there's a company that is ethically aligned with what we believe in. - They sell shamanic and ritual tools. - Coming from the earth, healing your body, allowing you to move through uncomfortable feelings. - Most importantly, they are healthily and ethically sourced directly from indigenous communities with a lineage of medicine makers. - That is why we love four visions. - They give over $15,000 back to indigenous initiatives a month. - Since the beginning of their company, they have given over a million dollars back to these indigenous communities. - If you have not worked with a pay, a pay is one of the main medicines that we work with. They sell one of my personal favorites is their Boba and Sana. It is a heart medicine. They have many other shamanic tools and ally plants like Sananga, which is known as shamanic eye drops. They have their Himalayan Shilajin, which is something you can use for recovery and optimization. - Go to foravisions.com and use promo code asifersquares for 15% off your purchase. - All right, we love you all and now back to the show. - So when we first introduced you, it was as a polymath. And we know you as someone who essentially explores the great mystery of existence and quantifies and qualifies it with math and secret geometry and going on expeditions. What have you done since you left that part of your life to find knowledge and what have you found when it comes to understanding reality? - So in 2016, when I had that experience when the public markets kind of all froze 'cause I was supposed to take that company public, what was interesting about it is that I was so disgusted because I felt so betrayed by so many people. You know, I had like a thousand employees and like 700 of them worked for me and know the companies before. And when it was clear to everybody's thinking that I was like they had me dead to rights, that I was not gonna be able to pull a rabbit out. Then people that were very close to me decided to side with the VCs. - Oh. - Which was heartbreaking. And when I won the battle, they couldn't overcome their shame related to it. And so we couldn't ever reconcile in many cases. In some cases I did, but in many cases I couldn't. And because it was their own feeling of grief and shame. And what I realized then is that what we call ethics is really just what we believe will benefit us at that moment in time. That sounds pretty brutal for me to say that. But especially now that we're seeing all the craziness of the Epstein files. And I've not gone on any podcast to talk about this yet because it's all totally new. And I was just in Europe this whole last two weeks. - Have you looked into it? - Oh yeah. Yeah, I've looked into it. And I think this is a big reckoning for consciousness. And it's very, very difficult. I'll give you an example of what I mean. I believe fundamentally that we attract everything we judge until we no longer judge what we attracted. So that means that we live in a you inverse of our own experience. All the things we don't like about ourselves. We push out of ourselves and our persona. And we think no one else can see them as aspects of us. And then they just show up to everybody else except us. And that's what a 360 degree review is very valuable for. So when that happens, then we look in the mirror and we think that we're only projecting a certain narrow band of frequency of who we are. And that that's all the people can see. And that the other aspects of ourselves cannot be seen. The only one that's blind to the other aspects of yourself is you. And that's what I call the arc of narcissism. And everybody goes through a narcissistic arc. It's part of the hero's journey. It's part of the hero's journey to want to become the hero that you had believed in your own mind. We all have a hero bias. We all have even villains believe they're heroes. I'm not afraid of people to have darkness. I'm only afraid of people that believe they don't have darkness. - Yeah, the same. - Right, so that's the unintegrated aspects of the self. So about five years ago, I was talking to my mom, and my mom said, "So what's this whole spiritual thing?" I said, "Mom, it's all about non-judgment." Non-judgment is a critical core aspect of this. And she's like, "What do you mean?" I said, "So I'm not gonna judge anyone anymore, on anything." I was around COVID time. And she said, "Well, what about pedophilia?" And I said, "Yeah, okay, fair enough, fair enough." I'm gonna put that on the exclusion writer, right? So it's like, "Okay, yeah, pedophilia is gonna still be "parked over here. "I'll still judge that, but I'm not gonna think about it too much. "Unless I'm really confronted by it, okay." What about killing innocent women and children's son? I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, okay, let's put that on that list too, "and let's basically exclude that over here." And then what about government corruption? You're so triggered and angry by government corruption. I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, let's put that over there too." (laughing) I guess I probably shouldn't be surprised because I attracted everything I judged that our world became a world that literally was a bunch of corrupt politicians who were practicing blackmail, right? Being blackmailed themselves in order to justify raping and killing innocent women and children. And that literally has become our world. Now, is it that world in part, is it separate from me? I don't believe the world outside me, it's separate from me. Is it related to the fact that I continue to put those on my judgment list? I believe 100%. Every subjective or every experience that we have in life is subjective by definition. There's no such thing as objective experiences. You could have someone steal your purse as you walk outside, have 30 eyewitnesses and everybody saw it differently. And in certain of those circumstances, it could have been your fault that your purse was stolen. And this is how we all live. 'Cause we don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are. So I believe that yes, there is definitely evil in this world, just as we have definitely evil within ourselves. And that that projects outward. So we can participate in the thing of it. The one thing that I find quite, let's say ironic, is that this isn't about party lines anymore. It's literally both sides of the aisle are equally to blame in this now, which is like what the heck is this? So then it's really starting to show the inversion of consciousness, right? And can we learn to transcend beyond so that these things go away? So what do I mean by this? So if I believed that my continued judgment of these actions actually creates them as a reflection of my outer world, a projection from my inner world to my outer world, then the only way for me to make them disappear and go away and stop is to stop being so triggered by them. And so as another example, let's say for existence, that for example, that you want to fight deforestation. So you decide to take up your pitch fork and you're going to basically fight against the corporations that are doing all the deforestation and the Amazon basin. Okay. The problem is if you start taking on these kinds of activist activities, you're just going to propagate more of the thing that you're battling against. So this is true for anything. So all of a sudden the person who decides to fight against the corporations is going to live in a world where it is literally chock full of corporations doing deforestation. Yeah. It's because where your energy goes, it amplifies. That's right. So if your focus goes, that's where the energy flows. And so we attract everything we judge until we no longer judge what we attracted. Right. And that's why it always comes back to attention in presence, you know, as like the main tenant. And it's choosing where to focus that presence. Because if you know if you're focused, if that's the really the only thing that's real and everything else is a distraction, if you could focus on the good thing or the positive thing, it will amplify in turn. You know, I think that's why spirituality is so much of an antidote because you're talking about connecting, wait, the feeling of love is the feeling of connection, connecting with that spirit or that source through community as opposed to connecting to the disconnection. For focusing on the thing that's disconnecting us, the disconnection amplifies. Yeah. So I mean, I love that you're talking about this because it is very hard to reconcile. If you're seeing pedophilic, you know, behavior at the highest level and you're feeling a feeling of anger, which many people speak about anger being as something that can motivate you to take action. You know, how do you, how do you, it's like you said, not be triggered, which is interesting. You said, not be, we cannot be triggered by it. So how do you do that? 'Cause you're speaking, it's really profound non-judgment, not being triggered, you know, not being distracted by the shadow. Yeah, I'm pretty clear that it does not mean condoning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? It does not mean condoning or basically saying that it's okay and just, or spiritually bypassing it. Yeah. That's not what I'm saying. I'm absolutely not saying. In fact, we live in the age right now where authenticity trumps everything. Yes. So the thing that's the dividing line, when people say that they're going through their spiritual path, right, then the thing that will always accompany that is non-judgment and authenticity. Because as soon as they learned how to stop judging themselves, then they allow themselves to be more authentic. And the authenticity is where you have your thoughts, words and actions, all in alignment with who you are. And you don't really care what other people, you're not seeking validation from other people in the process of it. But I'm not looking for any condoning of any of this type of behavior. And I'm not saying that it's not evil because their evil does exist in the world. It definitely exists. But it exists because it also exists within us. Again, these are the aspects of ourselves that are unintegrated shadow aspects of the self. And those are going to project in the outer world around you. So as I look at this, how do you handle this situation? How do you not get triggered by it? And maybe some practical aspects of how you could sort of look at this differently would be something we're talking about. So to me, it's not having this anger immediately. So I'll give you an example. I used to get mega triggered by Donald Trump, like mega, mega. When he was running from president in 2016, I was in the middle of my nightmare. And I remember my wife, my ex-wife, basically saying to me, why do you get so triggered by Donald Trump? And I'm like, well, what do you mean? And she says, you get so angry. And then it ruins our night. We can't talk about anything else. I'm like, geez, I'm so sorry. I don't mean to do that. That's bad. And she says, but have you ever wondered that maybe the reason why you get so triggered is because there's a certain aspect of yourself that you see in him. Boom. Right. And I was like, damn. So what you're saying is that a certain aspect of me is what I'm seeing in Donald Trump. And that's what's triggering me. And that is what triggering actually is. When we, at some stage, you know, the very beginning of time, if you've got Adam and Eve, God shows up, it says, Adam, you know, where are you? And Adam says, oh, I was hiding. Where are you hiding? Because I was naked. Who told you you're naked? Did you eat in the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? I told you not to eat it. Yeah, the woman that thou gave us me, and commanded I remember, I remained with her. She gave me the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And I did eat that bitch. (laughing) Eve, what has thou done? The serpent begob me and I did eat it. Okay. Wait a minute. The first thing we do when we feel shame is cast blame. So that's narcissistic self-projection. 100%. Clear and simple. So what happens is we form our personalities based on what we believe brings us shame in what brings us happy recognition. The things that bring us happy recognition are the things that we want to associate with. The things that don't bring us that don't bring us the opposite shame and guilt and pain. That's not me. So we spend the first half of our life saying, I'm not that. That guy is that or that woman is that. They did it to me, right? It's not me. It's separate from me. I'm not that. I'm not. But as we move into the second half of our lives and we get through our hero's journey, the major arc of it and the smaller fractals of that hero's journey are happening throughout your entire life. We'll see patterns every seven years, every 11 years. There's a reason why the United States has been in a war every 11 years. I mean, there's a fiscal reason. There's a monetary policy reason and there's a federal reserve reason and there's a taxation reason. It's all tied to this. I did actually analysis on this that we've been in wars every 11 years since 1913, since the foundation of income tax. Wow. Because monetary policy no longer has its its potency after a certain number of years of And then they have to switch to fiscal policy and fiscal policy basically is a lot of spending. So government spending is so where do we spend money that we can justify go to war. So it's a cycle of wars so our governments no longer serve us. They never actually did serve us. And as a result, we have just been feeding this beast and that's the realization of what's actually happening right now. So the way that you handle this is not trying to fight against anything. Instead transcend it. So go back to the example of the deforestation. Instead of fighting against the bulldozer and standing in front of it, how about going and planning a tree? Yes. Wow. This is what I tell people all the time. Well, fucking sad. Because so a lot of people get so worked up about politics and all this stuff and I'm like, can you do anything about it? They're like, not really I can go protest or whatever, but I'm like, are you actually making an actual change? And if you can't, then what the best thing you can do is be kind to your neighbor. Yeah. You know, be kind to nature. Totally. Be kind to yourself. Do anything you possibly can that can better the world around you because if every single person, instead of focusing on something they cannot control, actually focused on something that they can control, which is the people around them are giving love and appreciation to those around them and themselves, the world will change overnight. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, it's because actually we like the game. We like the game and we associate who we are with what we're fighting against. So it becomes a, look at me. I'm standing in front of the bulldozer, whatever it is. If you really want it to make a change, you can't change the world from the outside in. You can only change it from the inside out. Yeah. You can't change other people. You can only change yourself. And that's how the world transforms in the true hero's journey. That's the elixir. The remembrance is the true elixir of life. And that remembrance of who you are and why you are here and why you chose the path that you chose without any blame by taking your own full accountability for that path and the beauty of that path becomes the alchemy of your soul of evolution. This one pain turns into purpose. Absolutely. So I'm a professional screenwriter. And everything you're saying is just so spot on and learning and understanding story structure. Cambellan story structure. The hero's journey is one of the very first things that initiated me into spirituality. Yeah. And I saw that it was like, wait, this is literally a blueprint for the soul for the soul's growth. And a bunch becomes apparent and I'll give an example. So one is that there's a protagonist and an antagonist. They're actually the same person. They have the same one is the shadow version. And the only thing that makes it a shadow is that they have not become aware of what needs to be healed to initiate a journey of healing. The healing for the protagonist, they're about to go on that journey of healing. But it's always the same. The protagonist wants something. They take action to achieve it. They become into conflict and they ultimately change. And the change is always the same. The change always comes about from the death of the self. They have, it's no dark night of the soul. What's the low point into the dark night of soul? Then there's a rebirth where they essentially sacrifice the self for the whole and no longer serve the self and serve the whole. And that is how they become initiated. And actually the really fascinating is there's actually only two stories. One is I call it the superhero story and the other is sort of the becoming the superhero story, which is you learn self sacrifice through healing, through failing. And then the other story is tends to be the story of the superhero where they want something take action, achieve it, come into conflict. And actually they typically try to change the world is what happens. And most often they die. But the idea that they stand for the spirit carries on and that's a martyr story. That is and that tends to be the modern superhero story, which is a little bit distorted because they want franchises and they want to do all these things, right? So it doesn't quite have the same power. But everything you're saying is so fascinating. And I'm really curious because this all this all came about because we're talking about we were talking about your hero's journey. So you had your dark night of the soul. You birthed out of your dark night of the soul. You had this, what you referred to as almost like the healing of the cell for we all have our capable of have. We're programmed with narcissism or what's your favorite color? What's your dream? We all go through narcissism. Right. But everybody's got to go through this path of narcissism. The pathway of narcissism is actually the doorway to higher spirituality. Once you finally break through and have the full ordeal, which usually comes the entire zenith of the narcissistic path is that you start realizing, wait, what got me here won't get me there. It's not working anymore. And then you have a major break, the mirror shatters. And as the mirror shatters, then you start realizing, wait a minute, I am both the villain and the hero. It's just like in Batman where he said, hope that you live long enough to defeat the villain, but not so long you become the villain. And how many despotic rulers in Sub-Saharan Africa have started out as the hero freedom fighter that then became the despotic autocrat? We are that. That's my point. And once you really go through this and you have a true crisis, then it causes you to go inward and you no longer blame anyone for anything because you realize the outer world is just you. And when that happens, that's the moment that you start saying no longer, I am not this, I'm not that, I'm not this, I'm not that because you think you're carving yourself down to this perfectly, you know, resonant vehicle or vessel of perfection of what you believe perfection should be. But actually you start realizing that all the facts that you thought you learned were merely facets of a larger prism of truth. And the only way to get the entire truth would be to some all possible subjective perspectives of that truth, which would be to listen to what everybody else has to say. And that's what source creators doing to know itself, dividing itself in the many so that it can know itself. We're here to learn to experience to have emotional states because what we're experiencing is not what we're actually experiencing, it's what we believe we're experiencing. And we have emotional states as a result of that. You and I could do the exact same things, all three of us do the exact same things and I could say, well, that was awesome and you might say that sucked or it might be vice versa. The truth is we don't experience the world as it is, we experience as we are. So one of the first things you have to let go of in this path of the wisdom path is realizing that what you thought was reality is not what it is. It's a mental construct. It's not material, it's not objective. It's subjective, entirely subjective, and the only way to be able to accumulate wisdom and knowledge about it is to get the sum total of all possible perspectives that are entirely subjective too. So it's kind of like if we're a giant puzzle, each person has a piece of the puzzle and it allows you to see the full picture of God. That's right. Like a multi-facet, think of it as a prism with infinite number of facets on it. Each one of us represents a different facet of that. And that becomes beautiful because you start realizing everybody's perspective is valid. Everybody's viewpoint has value. And that's the moment that you can start to express love that supersedes and exceeds your desire to be right, to assert your facet as a fact. Thank you for saying that. It's, I think it's hard. I feel, I see, I no longer have a desire to be right anymore. Is that old saying you can either be right, you can be happy? And we're put in position sometimes where we have people on the show and they may say things that maybe we don't entirely agree with, but we always want to know more. That things not to debate or to fight, it's to learn the perspective and it's so interesting when change and growth is just preshifting our perception. It's like the new world is just, it's just, that's what the new world is. It's a reframing of our collective perception. That's right. And that's what we're going through on mass right now. As we're starting to realize all these structures became strictures on society. And that yeah, it's like corrupted its core, but that's because we are. We just haven't been willing to face it honestly. And this is the true hero's journey. As I, so what happened to me is I, after I got betrayed by so many people, for the first of my life, instead of asking the question, why did this happen to me? I asked myself the question, why did I choose this? Why do you think you chose it? Because I wanted to learn unconditional love because I knew my path. I was going through my art. You know, the reason I was a big farmer's CEO was because I had a South node in Virgo. And that's what South of Virgo, one of the things that a South of Virgo will do in this very judgmental path, the hero begins where the villain ends in vice versa. We all have a bias towards being a hero. So we want to pick the thing that we're fighting against and that's going to defame. find our hero ship. It's like, what's a hero without a villain? There's no hero. I mean, what's the story about a superhero without a villain showing up? That's a boring story. We're not here to learn through boring. We're here to learn through experience because we didn't want to just learn through a didactic classroom environment. We wanted to learn through actually living on the edge of a knife. Not knowing what it's gonna be like in the end. Not knowing how the film is gonna end in the end. But I actually now realize that my life's been playing backwards the whole time and I just believe that backwards went forwards. That's what I believe we're living. That everything was preset. The past and the present determine the future, but the future determines the past and the present. It's a mathematical equation. Yeah, yeah. - You keep mentioning astrology in little tiny beds like the South Node and stuff like that, which when we figured out about the South and North Node, we were like, "Oh my God, those are so accurate." - I feel like God was peeing in my eye when I first read it. I first read it. It was just roasted. - It was just roasted, yeah. - And for those that don't know, so 'cause honestly, if you wanna dip your toes in astrology, the South Node is where you're coming from. I'm almost like where your previous incarnation is. - It's kinda like what's already easy for you too. - And the North's where you're heading. Your North stomach path. - Your Dory path, right? So my South Node is Leo, which is a little more self-oriented. Then my North Node was in Aquarius, which is a little more community oriented. - In Rebellion. - In Rebellion? - Nice. - Of course, we're going in the biggest age of Rebellion ever. We're entering the year of the Fire Horse. This is the year of Rebellion. You're gonna see revolutions in everything this year. Like lots. - Yeah. - Around the world. Oh yeah. - What do you think's coming? - An upheaval, the likes of which we have never experienced in our lifetimes. - Oh shit, yeah. - Mm-hmm. - All right, what's happening? What's coming? Yeah, and you were just saying it's all in backwards. So where are we heading? What's the future? Especially what's the math show? Because I know you've been looking at this like a mathematical equation. - Yeah. Sometimes I feel like Harry Sheldon. Have you seen the TV show? - Yeah, I saw the camera. - That's foundations, right? That's like, wow, watch that. It's like, wait a minute. This is like Atlantis story. It's like this society that's got this weird sort of, you know, edict and became dystopian. And this mathematician who's kind of like this zodiac mathematician who is respected, but all of a sudden as soon as he starts telling everyone, okay, the end is coming, we're moving into the dark ages now. And we're gonna have to store everything in one geometric form so that in the future when society and mankind is ready to crawl out of the ashes of this horrible iron age that it's gonna go into, once it starts to study, one particular geometric shape, which is exactly that shape. - Really? - Yes, the cuboctahedron. That's the whole show. - That's the whole show. - Yeah. - And that's the prime number pattern too. And so what it basically says is that once you study that, then you start to find all of the, have you ever heard of a superior wharf phenomenon? - No. - What's that? - Okay, so superior wharf, you've seen the movie "Arival", right? - Yeah, great movie. - Great movie, so Amy Adams, she's playing this doctor linguist at a university who gets pulled in to try to communicate with the haptopods, the seven-legged, right, aliens, or extraterrestrials, excuse me, now it is. - Oh, dare you. - Oh, dare, rude, especially with a lot of them. Extrude to rasterials. (laughing) - The ET, Sarp friends. So, I forgot I'm an LA, it's time to be politically correct. - No, no, no, you're okay. - So, so basically they recruit her to come and, you know, communicate with the haptopods. And their only communication is they would like, shoot their ink or whatever on this wall. It was like this glass wall. And she started realizing there's a pattern in the ink that's being projected on this wall. And they were like geometric shapes. And I tend to refer to geometry as the QR code of subconscious mind. We all got used during COVID to QR codes. You put your phone over it, you know, you take a photograph, you know, you go in the camera mode and then it links you to where it is. But let's assume that anytime you look at a geometric shape like that one, your subconscious is now going to a different URL address. That's exactly what's happening, by the way. That is exactly what is happening. You're going to a different URL address. - Yeah, that's literally what Plant Medicine does. - They say you seek a geometry too. - Yeah, 100%. - So, it's literally upgrading your consciousness behind the scenes. You didn't even realize it. - Absolutely. - Just looking at it. - You don't need to understand the details of it. - I assume they had a frequency related to the visual structure as well, no? - There is a frequency related to that structure. Take the sum of its angles, which is 3,600 degrees. And that becomes 3,600 hertz. - Hmm. - Okay. - There's a frequency of it. I mean, this is based on the F-sharp major chord in Pythagorean music theory. So that's like, wow. I could take every single shape, starting with triangle, then a triangle to a square. I just keep adding the sum of the angles. So the triangle is 180 degrees. You might remember school, as some of its inner angles. The square has 360 degrees, just like a circle of 360 degrees, square and circle, masculine and feminine. So then you go to the pentagon, 540 degrees. 108 degrees is the inner angle. And then you go to the hexagon, 120 degrees is the inner angle and you multiply that by six. So you've got 720 degrees. So you start looking at all of these. First of all, you're gonna notice that every one of these numbers will always sum to nine. 720, 7 plus 2 plus 0 equals nine. 540, 5 plus 4 plus 0 equals nine. 180, 1 plus 8 plus 0 equals nine. 363 plus 6 plus 0 equals nine. Wait, if I do this infinitely, are there any polygons that show up in two-dimensional Euclidean geometry that have any other modular arithmetic than summing to nine? No, they all sum to nine. So what does that mean? Well, that's taking you down the rabbit hole. Take us. Please do. OK? So you've heard about 369, right? Yes. Nicholas Tesla, 369, it relates to that. The 369 are the electron, the proton, and the neutron. That's basically what it is. It's the mathematics of all that is in our universe around us. The Trinity. The Trinity. Didn't he say that you could know like the universe if you knew-- do you want to know the sequence of the universe? Look at energy frequency vibration. So when you look at that, then you realize, OK, so what if I ascribed direct translation to Hertz frequency for those polygons? A triangle, a square, a pentagon, a hexagon, an octagon? If I just look at those, and I play them as Hertz frequency, so then it would be 180 Hertz, 360 Hertz. Then I've got 540 Hertz. And then 540 goes to 720. And then 720 goes to the next one is 1080. So that's for the octagon. So when you start to look at all of those and listen to them as musical notes, so 180 Hertz is F sharp. 360 is double that, so it's just next octave. So it just be dah, dah, dah. And then 360 goes to 540, now that's a C sharp. So that becomes a perfect fifth of the 360 hertz. So 360 then goes the perfect fifth. You know the third. It goes dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, that's a perfect fifth. so if you start off at f sharp. ♪ Duh, duh, duh, duh ♪ There'll be the next octave up, but. ♪ Duh, duh, duh ♪ ♪ Duh, duh, duh, duh ♪ So that would be. ♪ Duh, duh ♪ - Are you saying it's all music? - It's all music. - It's all music, so wait. - So we convert all the polygons into music, and it's a perfect f sharp major chord in five part harmony. - Wow. Okay. - I'm Richard Serrett. Join me on Strange Planet for in-depth conversations with the world's top paranormal investigators, alien abductees, bigfoot trackers, monster hunters, time travelers, and more. - The handler one day told her this whole thing about how they've been terraforming on Mars, and they're building a colony, and they're recruiting specific people of specific bloodlines and specific talents and skill sets to go onto the planet. - On Richard Serrett's Strange Planet, we're redefining reality. - Listen now wherever you get your podcasts. - Shit. - So does that mean like even having something like this? Here is actually-- - That's 1,600 degrees, yes. - Is it actually putting out a frequency? - Yes it is. - Wow. - It's cohering the frequency in this room, and its geometry is the music that you experience with your eyes. - Okay, so now, what's superior worth? - Super-warf is when you learn something new. Every time you learn something new, your brain is no longer the same. You get new synaptic pathways, right? You're literally creating neuroplasticity in your brain when you learn something new. So when you look upon a geometric form, it will actually start upgrading your anatomy. You'll start thinking differently. And geometry is the language universe. So, superior wharf is when you learn a new language, it changes your consciousness so much that it changes your perception. That's what happens with psilocybin. That's what also happens with DMT. That's what's happening with ayahuasca journeys, right? Your brain is creating new neural pathways and through neural plasticity, it's actually changing your perception in the world. In some cases, it's going to open your heart. I believe everyone should try mushrooms to be honest because I think everyone would love each other a lot more if they did. Yes. And more importantly, they might even love themselves. And if they love themselves more, I don't think the world's a difficult place because people hate each other. I think the world can be a difficult place because people hate themselves. So, in that context, superior wharf is really when you learn something new as a language for your brain, your neural plasticity changes and your world perception also changes. So, that's what happened in the movie, "Arrival." So, what happened to her? She started to be able to decipher the meanings of these different shapes and learn how to communicate with them, right? Using her linguistic background to do it. But in the process, she started remembering time differently. Remember how there were flashbacks of how she had this daughter and basically that was going to die and all this stuff? And then you realize that she was no longer living linear time. Yeah. Yeah. That's a superior wharf effect. By learning geometry, you start to move into higher consciousness and you start to experience time differently. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we've been talking about this a lot lately, but it's kind of the whole point of everything. I mean, if we're returning to one-disconsciousness and that's at least the North Star or the original truth and we're sort of losing this illusion of self to become one again. And we have all these extra sensory abilities coming on in the form of telepathy, pre-cognition, clairvoyance, empathic transmission, lucid dreaming, and so on and so on. Yeah, the sixth root, you've maybe heard of the sixth root race. No. And you know, the 36 senses. 36 senses. 36 senses. What are they? Well, and it's also interesting that you guys may not know this, but you know, the Shakespeare plays, right? The 36 plays, right? The 154 sonnets, 36 plays. If you structure and look at the 36 plays, they're actually matching the deacon of astrology. So the Atlantean calendar was 36 segmentations. So for each of the 12, there were three 12 zodiac signs. So within Taurus is Orion, Aridonus, and Auriga. Those are the three that are the constellations. So they're 48 total constellations in the northern hemisphere. These are the constellations of astronomy. And so this idea that they had to segment their year into 10 day segments, because the zodiac was too crude. It was too broad a brush to basically try to say, okay, everyone that's at Taurus is a certain way. There are different elements within Taurus. So you could be a Taurus that's also Orion. You could be a Taurus that's also, and that's me. I'm a Taurus that's also Orion, right? You could also be a Taurus that's Auriga or Aridonus. And each one of the different 12 zodiac signs all have different aspects with them. And then there's actually a 13th, which is the Ophiuchus, which is the snake bearer, the snake tamer. So this whole idea is basically that we go through this cycle of our year. And instead of having only 12 zodiac signs, you've got 36. But actually this 36 is not only a reference to that, it's also musical. So the whole thing is like musical chords. So imagine you're born with a certain planetary placement, and that planetary placement has a silent but visible harmonic frequency, right? Because that's exactly, there's lots of harmonic frequencies that were, that are in the spectrum beyond our hearing, right? That we can see, and maybe some even we can't even see. But what that's also associated with is each of those 36 plays and the 36th Deacon of Astrology also tell us a story of each and every one of the new sensory perceptions that we have going into the fifth dimensional realm. And all of it's encrypted in the place of Shakespeare. And all of it's encrypted, right? Also in the 54 sonnets, which all of it is about the alchemical journey and the alchemical path, which is all about the hero's journey. So it's all connected. It's all connected because it's all encrypted. It's all encrypted. Now you have to ask yourself the question, did Shakespeare know all of this? Well, if there really was a Shakespeare because most people believe that it was just a pen name. But is it possible that the invisible hand just put all of this together? Maybe, have I found things that I encrypted to myself even 10 years ago? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, all the time. Interesting. So you're finding stuff that you like know, you just have a knowing that it's from you in the future. 1000% yes. Oh wow. All the time. In fact, it happens more often now than it's ever happened before because what we started realizing is that time is not linear. It loops. And it's about our own perception. Right? It's a mobius strip, or you can call it a projective plane in physics. So if you shoot like photons, even though photons don't travel, they just basically are different reflections within cubic space time segments that are getting excited by a wave perturbation that goes along. We all say, oh, the speed of light, light doesn't actually travel. Photons don't travel. It's no different than if we're sitting in a football stadium and do a wave, it stands up and then sits down. There's an on excitation and off excitation. It's traveling through the stadium is the wave perturbation, the energy that's going through. And then you have the photon, which is each person standing up and they're sitting down. And that's the light. That's right. So that sounds a lot like an LED screen. You sound exactly like an LED screen. The each individual thing as a person. Yeah, because we're living in a simulation. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. It's a spiritual life simulation. Yeah. Where we're living out a play that is our own individualized hero's journey. Absolutely. And we're here to learn how to love and be loved. I think the interesting thing is, you know, people simulation, the area sounds crude, but one, it's a simple mathematical probability. And every civilization since the beginning of time, it uses its greatest technological advancement to describe reality. So that's why we think in terms of computer simulation. But obviously it's some sort of divine, hyper intelligent, simulated matrix. So mind simulation. Right. Yeah, it's mentalists. It's a mind simulation. It's mentalism. That's I think the biggest shift. So for me, when I went through 2016 and had this crisis that somehow I survived from, I quit the job as CEO, but I remained as chairman and controlling shareholder. But I was like, I got to go and figure out my issue. Right. So I stayed home for about a year and a half and I started to study the mathematics of the universe because I want to understand if I experience this, then maybe what I thought was objective is not really objective. So what's the most objective of the science is mathematics, the queen of the sciences is mathematics. So I thought, I'm going to go and reconstruct mathematics from scratch. Does one plus one really equal to? You know, every single thing I'm going to re-challenge it. And so I wrote several books about this and they took off and then I started to, you know, publish on social media my, my geometric artwork because I was going through the pain of this challenge that I'd faced and realizing also that I'd created it all. And as a result, I started to sculpt, I started art and I'm actually yesterday I was working on, I'm going to do my first art like exhibition. Yes. I think in Laguna Beach and I'm going to do one in Portugal the summer as well. I've never sold any of my original art but I posted a ton of it online and it's interesting because I see it all as like carrying a frequency and it's heartistry. I don't call it artistry as much as I call it heartistry. It's when the doorway to your heart starts to open and that's where the healing comes. So when people look at it and a lot of it was just math. It looks like math that's like visually pleasing, beautiful. But geometric and all of a sudden people were like loving it and that's how I ended up getting followed and everything. And now I'm well known for that more than I am for anything else. And here I went through this whole thing where I stayed home for almost two years. I became a hermit and I started learning the language of the universe and I don't consider myself as mathematician as much as I consider myself a human being who's learning the language of the universe. And it's something that we all have as a right to learn how to communicate with the universe and math without meaning is just information but math with meaning can become divine communication. And it can initiate superior wharf cascades at your own mind that then change your perception of what reality is. Was there a single discovery that you came to that actually what like shifted your entire view of reality? Yeah I think the biggest one I went to the great pyramid in 2017. I went back again in 2018 and when I was there in 2018 I before I went I remember before I left I was like I'm going to discover something I'm going to discover something that pyramid I knew I was going to discover something and I was drawing Alpha Omega my notebooks and everything multiple times. I went to Israel for a week before that so I was hosting a group there and it was On May 7th, in 2018, I went to back to the Great Pyramid and I went there the first night on that night with my friends were like 12 of my friends that were all like CEOs from Orange County. And I remember calling my friend Nassim Hermane and I said Nassim who's a physicist who's also in the same field in space and I said I feel like I'm going to discover something. I don't know what it is but I think it's related to Alpha and Omega. And so I get inside the Great Pyramid and I'm standing there and there's a guy laying on the sarcophagus and I was helping them kind of go through and doing you know kind of like buzzing the chamber for them because it actually once you lay in there and you find the right frequency once you go the whole thing goes wow wow wow wow like an engine. Are you like toning with it? Oh yeah. It's like super powerful like crazy powerful. And I get people lay in there and all of a sudden they're like wow they're like freaking out like oh my god. Is that why they say no singing inside them? I mean yeah they don't like you to sing but you can. Oh okay. You definitely can. And but sometimes you have to know the right people and how to do it. Okay. Anyway so I had this guy laying in there and I had a flashback of being an entirely different timeline. I'm standing in the same spot and I looked down and there was a blue green light on top of the sarcophagus on the southwest side corner and it was putting an alphomega into the rim of the sarcophagus. I was dressed totally differently. There were only five other people in the room at the time not the 12 that I was with that night. And I and then all of a sudden I came back into this timeline and I looked down at the rim of the sarcophagus and exactly where I had seen the alphomega pressed into the Rose granite rim which is made of Rose granite which is 80% almost 80% quartz crystal. It's like super brittle. Super brittle and I looked at the exact same spot where I had just seen it in this memory and right at that spot I see an alphomega on the rim. Like first time no one ever seen that before and I was like what the hell there's an alphomega on the rim. So basically the alphomega and it was on this not just any place on the rim it was exactly mathematically 5.6 05 inches across and no one had seen it before and there's not supposed to be any writing on the pyramid like what the hell is this and I knew enough about the pyramid at that time because I'd ever been studying the pyramid quite a lot the mathematics of it. I may most of my research was tied to the slope angle of the pyramid. I want to understand why did they choose the slope angles that they chose for the pyramid. They're steeper than others. Why? And then I realized that they're all actually Pythagorean triples that are giving us musical intervals and so the Giza Plateau is literally da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da It's music. Oh my god it's like a close encounter. I was waiting for that. Is it gonna be da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da You know the wolf. And so the main mycaria pyramid is the smallest pyramid in Giza. It's five height for one half base and then the second pyramid is calf re pyramid which is four height three one half base. And then the great pyramid I thought well if it's five or four or four over three then the great pyramid must be two over one and it wasn't two over one. I'm like crap. Oh it's two over one pie. Do you think that was a past life memory when you had that flashback? Yes absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. So what do you think the pyramids are? Huh. You know what I think that they are spiritual ascension stargates. That they are there to awaken within you this higher spirituality aspect that there's a whole other world that you didn't even know existed. And that it's in higher dimension and that as you awaken as you awaken the things within yourself, all your chakras and everything else more of the pyramid will get revealed because it's really just a reflection of where you are in your own conscious progression. Again, it's like a testosterone mirror. Wow. Like a simulation. Absolutely. Oh my god. And so each one of this is a spiritual life simulation game and that becomes the totem. They give it as a totem to awaken you, right, and take you through this journey. And I believe fundamentally that the pyramids themselves all around the world were all part of a grid that also could play like music. So thinking of it as almost thinking of it like as a circular or a spherical music box. You ever seen those spherical music box and then they have like a little like pyramid shaped thing as it goes on the surface of the circle or the sphere. And that would basically be like a computer tape and it would basically punch out and create like a music thing like like the old style musical pianos that would play themselves on those paper things, right? It's the same type thing. Pyramids basically stick out like this and oh, that's so weird. They play musical notes and each one of them is a different musical note. And that's what I did. My research was I looked at every pyramid around the world, why they all had different slow bangles because each one of them represented the five or a four is the major third in music. Da da. The four over three is the perfect fourth and then it's inverse. So you take the full base becomes five or four becomes eight over five and that's a minor sixth. Wait, so is that like with the, well, the earth is like turning? It's actually putting out like a song. It did at one point. Yeah. Oh my god. It's just so you can't hear. Oh my god. But our body's obviously must be able to hear it like. Yeah, absolutely. Our bodies can hear it with their simatics. I believe there was built at a point in time to help raise consciousness as the earth was moving into the stage of darkness. It's like in foundations. It's the exact same thing. He put everything in the kebab to headrin and I believe what the Atlanteans did is they put it all this information into the pyramids. So if you just start studying the pyramids, it becomes this superior war effect that awakens you. If it's all cyclical and like you said, it's going in reverse and you mentioned that where we're going and that this year things are about to culminate. Where are we going? I want to say also that because a lot of people will say, well, wait a minute, Robert, isn't it an energy device? Isn't it some sort of giant like power plant? I believe that it did have power and that the power was very powerful because that's what was necessary to run the Stargate. So I was in the pyramid in February 10th last year and we had done this activation there. I had six people with me and I had 144 total people with me on that trip. But in between the sessions, because you only have 50 people at a time inside the great pyramid and in between sessions, I brought some other people that were close to me and put them all in the Orion constellation position, which is a two to one rectangle. So the King's Chambers are two to one rectangle. Now what's two to one? What's the octave in music? So of course the King's Chambers where you go to go to the next octave, literally the octave in music. So I had everyone arranged in Orion constellation, so each person at each corner and Orion looks like a two to one rectangle that's a little bit of skew at the top. But the two stars at the bottom, Rhygol and Siph, are basically matching one side of the room. And if you put the sarcophagus in the center of the room, it perfectly frames the three belt stars. And so I'm like this is where it originally was. And we knew that it was originally not where it is right now. And we saw the floor was chipped out where they moved it from, which was in the center of the room. And I'd light our scan the entire room. I have the entire thing on an Apple Vision Pro. I can go into it any time. You light our scan the whole room? Well, the nice thing is is that Harvard University light our scan it, but I turned it into a virtual reality. Whoa. What do you think? What do you think about what's found underneath the pyramids? Oh, I think it's legit. Yeah. So 100%. What do you think it is? Like, have you looked at them? Well, so Leonardo da Vinci encrypted it in a, he drew a picture of the calfrate pyramid. And underneath the picture that he drew of calfrate pyramid, and I found this in codex Atlantis, underneath the picture, you can find gigantic pylons that go straight down. In Da Vinci's depiction of it, and it's a tree of life, it's literally the cobalistic tree of life. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild, man. So basically, Da Vinci had encrypted it, and I had discovered this part of a year before, and I work with Philopo Biondi and Melanga, who did the SARS-Gans. Before you leave, I have to show you something, because in 2015, I was doing a meditation, and it was the first time this has ever happened. I had a blueprint appear in front of me, and over a three-month period, it kept zooming back and giving me more and more of this structure. And it's literally a pyramid with exactly like they show the pillar underneath and the things going around. And then there's something at the bottom, though, which I haven't seen show up, but I want to show you. It's gigantic box. It's like a big cubic shape, or two cubes next to each other. And those, you could fit like 64,000 people in them. It's huge. You're saying below the pillars, but not in there. Literally one of the, and below that even, there's another pyramid shape. What? 3.1 kilometers down. You've seen this? I have. I've seen the SARS-Gans of it. So why is that not been revealed yet? It has been. It's been all over on like Joe Rogan. Oh, okay. - Okay, showing it. - Okay. - I thought what I looked at, I didn't see below the, oh actually I think there is one of them that. - I haven't seen the thing that was underneath. That's why I was wondering. - Yeah, no, it's super wild. It's like super wild. And so what happened that night when I was there in February 10th and we're in the shape of Orion's belt and Orion, I was doing this channeling and I said, I activate, no, I said, I command and declare the Stargate is now open. The moment I said that, all the power in Giza went out. Like literally all went out. So they were freaking out inside. It was like, I just said is now open and it was like boom, pitch black. And we're in there in the Egyptian authorities that were in the pyramid, they were like, what is happening? What's happening? They're trying to get it on and they had auxiliary power. They try to turn it on three times. They could not turn it on. Every time they turn it on, it would shut down again. It was like a noise cancellation. And that was for 20 minutes and we had pitch black in all of the area that night. And I was like, whoa, that was wild. I'm like, it was like, is that moment where it's like you're a wizard now, Harry? (laughing) No, it was like, what do you channel? Oh yeah. How to tell us about that? How did that come about? What comes from that? My channelings are usually in the form of geometry and mathematical downloads that come that I end up publishing. And they're like math proofs and stuff like this related to the universe. Does it come through through writing, through words, all of that? Does it come through all at once? Or does it like, or is it-- Usually it comes in very, very fast. And once I wrote this thing called the 24 precepts of universal mind, I woke up in the middle of the night and wrote it in 30 minutes and it's on my website. You can find it, it basically explains the whole matrix and exactly what it is and why it exists and what the purpose of it is. But I work really closely with people who channel in the more traditional sense, like where they're talking the channeling. I do it as well, I just haven't done it so much publicly. Matthias DeSteffen, who's one of my closest friends. And it's great. Been with him many times on many adventures and we get almost identical information. It's just that I'm getting it in the geometry form. So the first time we started spending a lot of time together, he was with me in Miami and we were both at Bitcoin Miami. I'm like, why are we here? I don't know why we're here. And we realized later it was to spend time with each other. And he asked me, what do you know about this one triangle? And I said, oh my god, that's what I was working on on the flight over here. Well, that particular triangle, which is the 512-13 Pythagorean triple, and it turns into a pyramid, which is a very steep pyramid. And so we start figuring out that's the philosopher's stone pyramid. It's the one on the back of the dollar bill. Holy shit. What are the 24 precepts? Because you just mentioned them being essentially the secrets of the universe and that you child it. So I'm remiss if I didn't ask. Yeah. So the 24 precepts, I can pull it up for you, because it's not easy to remember every single one of them. That's right. It sounds complicated. But it's not so complicated. But if you own my website, there's like this page right here where it says about and then go to the reason writings. At the bottom of it, it says 24 precepts of universal mind. You click on that. I'll just read the first five. They're pretty short. Yeah, please. And this is going to be a little bit of a moosebush. The universe is mental. Realize that you live in a you inverse of your own creation as an inter-conceived, notional experience and your chosen soul journey for a dimensionally limited avatar self. Thirly designed by your multi-dimensional and omniscient higher self. Your conscious awareness informs your mirror separation of conscious persona or your mask, an unconscious mind experience your you inverse. You are the playwright, the director, the producer, the actor on your life stage play, and all the world is actually a stage. Your higher self is chosen to participate in a multiplayer spiritual life simulation, a game in which the participant is a dimensionally limited avatar. The purpose of the game construct is to expand awareness of yourself by dividing awareness into both conscious and unconscious mind, uniquely allowing the one source creator to divide itself into the many for the experience of observing itself through greater and greater variation of angular degrees of perception and unique conditioning biases, both nature and nurture. Three, ultimately the multi-functional experience enables increasing empathy and wisdom experienced by the higher self for infinite circumstances and scenarios. Thus, increasing the knowledge database of space-time memory, the cumulative collection of all biased observational emotional responses of all divisions of source creation. In this construct, you will be born with a self bias as a hero. From the moment awareness crystallizes into your persona hero bias, there are a series of experiences introducing shame, blame, and vulnerability as uncomfortable and undesirable perceptions that ultimately mold and shape your self identity, which is your reflected awareness of persona, as well as absorbed villain characteristics formed as a direct result of your hero identity and affiliation. The backdrop, number four, of the spiritual life simulation is duality. The experience introducing judgment, resulting in the suffering as a result of scarcity and time, energy and resource, enmity and power, while introducing an illusory concept of the eternal battle between reflected light and its absorbed darkness. And the perception that devolution is the tendency of energetic bias that we call entropy. In this construct, every hero will reflexively consider their opposers' villains. Likewise, even villains consider themselves heroes. The self-concept of hero and villain alike are merely degrees of imbalance and derive from both the heroes and the villains' inability to perceive dark aspects within their own shadows and subconscious. And instead, severely repress these hidden aspects, assigning these characteristics to their villain counterpart, as both will inevitably perceive the other as a villain, when in fact both and neither are either heroes or villains. But rather unintegrated personalities capable of both dark judgments and therefore dark actions, justifying their means by the end results. And the motive behind such actions is exclusively self-interest disguised as collective need and benefit. Damn. All avatars are imbued with both talents and powers, as well as seeming character flaws, which flaws make the gameplay more realistic. The aim of the game is to transcend duality, remember and tap into the higher consciousness, integrate the shadow awareness and attain the philosopher's stone of hemic synchronization of heart-brained consciousness, thus merging the conscious and unconscious minds into one whole, the super-conscious mind. You can keep going. No, there's 25, but that'd be-- Oh, that's so good. I know it's so good. I can read a few more. OK, cool. Five, the hero and villain co-depend on each other in order to define the boundary of their self-perception. In short, the villain begins where the hero ends in vice versa. Six, as the avatar, you will learn to see the unseen. Start believing, if not already, in miracles. Mira. And Spanish is to look. Clay is key. Look to see the key. To see patterns and recognize repetitions within your life experience and the others you perceive, which there are really no others. They're only you. Study the art of science and the science of art. Realize that everything connects to everything else. Remind yourself daily to reverse the age old saying of seeing as believing and embrace that indeed believing is seeing instead. Seven, seek not validation from others. Quote unquote, you are not what you do. Your identity is independent of your accomplishment. Always remember that the harshest criticism comes from your own conscious mind and reflects back to us in our outer you-inversive experience. Learn to accept constructive criticism from others. Be willing to stand for sometimes or recognize-- be willing to stand for something sometimes-- or recognize that you can and will fall for anything. Learn to see that anything that triggers you emotionally is actually an opportunity to learn and expand your awareness of self. I'll repeat that. It's like an invitation in disguise. Likewise, practice observing existence without judging or complaining about people, places, or things. Realize that this-- in this life, we attract everything that we judge and that we no longer judge everything we attract. Surround yourself with people who practice the same. Eight, what you judge positively or negatively in others is what you either like or dislike about how you see yourself. A truly humble person perceives only humility, as he or she is resonating at the frequency of humility. Likewise, arrogance will perceive arrogance in others. Piousness perceives piousness. Like will always perceive like as a principle of sympathetic resonance, just as a knife is incapable of cutting itself or a light eliminating itself and eye seeing itself without the aid of a mirror. The persona is incapable of perceiving its full self. Nine, abandon erasing or deleting things from your awareness that are unpleasant to you. Instead, see the beauty in the polarity and the imperfections of the world and lean into the discomfort. Remember that all unattractive characteristics you eradicate from your persona will only multiply in your field around you as a new reflection. Absorption relationship. Learn to transburet the pain of suffering resulting from judgment into the gold of sole evolution. Ten, know that the world doesn't happen to you. Know that it is constantly happening for you. Just as a hammer perennially seeks a nail, know that consciousness will always attract self-similar and vibrational matching consciousness. Victim consciousness leads to more victimhood. And like will always attract like through sympathetic resonance. When things don't work out, don't go your way, ask the existential questions, why you chose what you chose to learn in this existence. Be resilient, fall down and get back up, fall fast and fail fast, and learn to both appreciate and enjoy the journey of life with all its twists and turns. Participate in a daily self-care regimen of mindfulness, meditation, intentional choice, exercise and dietary choices. What you decide to undertake in this area is entirely up to you, and what you decide is far less important than to decision to exercise discipline in your self-care practice. Belief of consequence, more than specific regimen, activity or practice, determines outcome and overall sustaining result. 11. Try to authentically feel and express deep empathy and gratitude for all perspectives. Viewpoints and people admittedly, this will be very challenging at times. Also for Fauna, for Flora and for Mother Earth. Feel your blessings in moments of uncertainty and despair, sincere expression of gratitude raises vibration almost instantaneously. For many, it is impossible to feel the depths of despair while in the state of sincere gratitude for your ability to insert whatever you're truly grateful for. Breathe, you're breathing, your mental capacity or your sustenance. Practice a gratitude regimen. Choose to express love over desire for the collection of one or many objective truths or facts. But prove your point of making you right in the eyes of others. Remember ultimately there are no others truly separate from you in your universe. Always remember that what you perceive as fact is merely a facet of a larger prism of a more holistic truth. The only objective truth is the love that underlies it all. 13. Generally fall in love with the world as it is in without condition. Fall completely in love with yourself. Courtaille persistently negative self-narratives and self-deprecating speech. Never forget that what you voice will eventually be made manifest as effective cause. 14. Be the change you desire to see and experience around you. Know that no one on earth has a higher percentage of darkness within them than anyone else. While some are more aware of their darkness and others less so, each is at a different stage of their awakening and individuation process. Learn to both accept the existence of your shadow consciousness and integrate this awareness into recognition and love. Please remember that it is not the enmity that individuals or collectives hold for one another that makes earth life so difficult but rather self-loathing makes it so. Likewise it is not the sin that makes life miserable but rather the shame and resultant blame that accumulates within us in our surrounding field of experience. 15. Study the quadrivium of arithmetic. Number in itself. Geometry, number in space. Music, number in time. Cosmology, number in space in time. Try as the phrase and say it often, the more I learn the less I actually know. Recognize that the brain is more a receiver and antenna than a hard drive storage device. Like any muscle that thrives with both balance and use, always, always, always commit and recommit to being teachable. 16. Engage in the daily practice of random acts of kindness and service to others and importantly, doing so while expecting absolutely nothing in return. Realize that everyone you meet and every experience you encounter can be divine and source communication to you. That this is how the universe communicates to us, maintain an attitude of learning profundity from the simple aspects of life. This includes all encounters in your you-inverse, learn to see and register the synchronicities from your higher self. 18. Practice mindfulness and intentionality in all that you do, maintain an attitude of gratitude and allow yourself to feel all emotions you feel coming into your heart. Your solar plexus and mind centers. Remember that how you do one thing is very often how you will do anything and everything. In this age, every feeling that was suppressed and not allowed to be felt by you and every word that needed to be expressed but was never spoken must be now both felt, be both felt and spoken. Seek friendships and romantic relationships reflect where your consciousness, seek friendships and romantic relationships that reflect where your consciousness is evolving toward and it's ever-expanding progression. Remember that the heart never has to completely break. It always expands as the ego continues the process of breaking and dissolving. It's seemingly never-ending layers of shells. 20. Match your frequency through modulation of your emotional state. Never forget that what we perceive in the outside world and what we are and not necessarily as it is. It's what we are not actually as it is. Learn to identify and match vibrational states of your desires on a moment-by-moment basis. Bring these desires into your material world perception through this matching process, through gratitude and through intentional choice. Embrace the value and beauty of your unique expression. Perception and individuation path. Your unique perspective on life and all things is a highly necessary aspect of the universe. The universe expands its wisdom and empathy through these unique perspectives. Our observations through the lens of conditioning bias from a foundation of experience and emotional response. Likewise, there are no mistakes only learnings in this matrix of mind. Know that what you will continue to experience the same life lessons until you have ceased the negative judgment of the opposite learning. Be aware that in this universe we learn precepts through experiencing opposites. If you are here to learn how to learn conditional love, then your recurrent life theme will be conditional love and betrayal until you no longer judge negatively conditional love and betrayal. Know and repeat back to yourself daily that you are perfect, complete and beautiful just as you are. Earth can either become a heavily paradise or a hellish escape room. The choice is ours. There will be no escaping earth. There is only a transcendence of this past earth experience and this only when you genuinely fall in love with the entire experience without condition. Like risks, be vulnerable, embraced discomfort, love deeply and completely, leave nothing on the table left unexperienced. Live every day as if it is your last. Never forget the most important learning from life is simply to learn to love and to be loved in return. There is no actual death, only a physical transition to another like plane of existence again. Like will always attract like. There is no God, judgment, either during or after this life. The only real judgment are self-imposed, self-inflicted and your own. If you think you can or you think you can't, you will be right. Be an optimist. Be kind in your dealings while remaining firm standing in your beliefs and for your passions. Statues are never erected for pessimists and recognize that pessimists never refer to themselves as pessimists and prefer to be known as realists. Become acquainted with societal conditioning biases and the patterns of your experiences and various conditioning biases you unconsciously subscribe to unknowingly. Know that the only real obstacles in life are the ones we persistently believe in. Number 24. Exercise your talents. Explore your depths. Have fun. Learn to create and play in this beautiful world of God remembrance and realization. When you are ready and have mastered the above precepts, you will transform your UNVIRSAN to a paradise through love. An existence without scarcity of resources or even time itself. The destination is set. There is no failure or running out of time. There are no mistakes. Fall in love with the sole journey of your higher self that is chosen for you and for you to experience. Surrender to the beauty of this divine unfolding. If you commit to the awareness and integration of only a small percentage of the above list, you will be astonished just how rapidly the world around you transforms to your new paradigm and vibrational state. Ba-ha-ha. Ba-ha-ha-ha. Oh my God. Make a manuscript for the divine game. Talk about a manual. Yeah, manual, yeah. It's interesting because, first off, thank you. That was beautiful. That was beautiful. Thanks for letting me read it. I haven't actually had time. I haven't had anyone through that before on a podcast. Thank you for reading all of it. It's so special because it's a manual for how to navigate the times ahead. There's going to, on the surface, there's going to be so much change, so much transformation as they say, "All will be revealed." It's happening. It's happening. All the secrets are being locked. That's how we navigate it without losing ourself and how we actually can make sure, as Cindy would say, pest and the eye of the needle, how we can transcend and not get sucked and back into duality. I'd love to, because you've mentioned it a few times, what are we about to see? What is this about to look like? How is the world going to change? What is the other side of this look like? Some call it a fourth dimensional existence. I think the world is already split. I think the shift is already happening. It's already happening. Can you explain the shift to our audience and how it's happening, why it's happening? The people that are still deeply in judgment are experiencing what seems like a dystopian reality. The people that are transcending the judgment and choosing love instead are moving into almost like a paradise state where they're living life and none of this stuff is really impacting them. It's not spiritual bypassing. One might perceive the other as that, but it's really not. It's not propagating the same thing. That's a very big distinction. The world is already started to split. The people that are able to move into authenticity, absolute authenticity. By the way, for the people that I did this course this summer in Europe where I went to all these different European cities and I gave these talks about authenticity that you're the architect of your life. Do you move into that? I remember one of the people in the crowd said, "I'm a corporate attorney." You know, "Are there going to be attorneys in the fifth dimension?" I'm like, "No, they're not. There's no attorneys in the fifth dimension." You're going to have to get a new career son. That's right. What is it that, because I had everybody do this, like, Venn diagram of, you know, it's basically a Venn diagram of your overlap of your gene keys, of your zodiac, of your human design, of your anyogram, and then the things you love to do, the things that the world will basically value, the things that the world is willing to pay you for as well, right, obviously. And the things that you're able to do that other people can't do. So all of that was overlapped into this authenticity zone. And so this person that said, there were lawyers said, "Yeah, you know, like, what's your passion?" What is it that said, "We use the architect to do all the overlaps and everything for them, and the drawings of it and everything?" And then they were like, "Yeah, like, it's telling me that I need to be like a somatic sound healer." And I'm like, "How do you feel about that?" Like, that's exactly what I've always wanted to do. Oh, wow. And I've been fighting against that, and I went to law school, I became a corporate attorney. He's like, "But how do I rewind this now?" It's like, "Hey, I was a big former CEO." Yeah. So once you start living your authentic path, that's when you attract your highest abundance, because you have no inertia. That's when you're living your dormic path. And when you understand that you're, and even your Zodiac starts to shift as well, the moment that you start to realize what is your north node and that's your dormic path, then all of a sudden you move 24 degrees, and that's the divine 24 degrees. That cubic de heater has 24 edges. If you count up all the edges on it, it's 24. The prime number pattern that I discovered was that every prime number greater than 5 will square to a number that is a multiple of 24 plus 1 without exception. 7 times 7 is 49 is 2 times 24 plus 1. 11 times 11 is 121, that's 5 times 24 plus 1. And 13 times 13 is 169 is 7 times 24 plus 1. So you start seeing this pattern that reveals itself all the way through the number pattern. And it's because it's all spinning off of that one shape. This is the structure of space and time. And so basically this idea that you have control over your reality based on how you frame yourself within it. What's the framing that you create the reality around you? Are you going to continue in this judgment path? And that's a very difficult path. And I'm thankful to the people that decided that they're going to continue down that path because frankly the way that it works in the universe is that for every action there must be an equal opposite reaction. Not everyone's going to go into this different new earth environment. Some people have chosen their soul's journey is still to be here in this third dimensional world where it's going to seem increasingly dystopian. And if you haven't noticed, it's like kind of like now it's almost like in the open, right? It's like no one's even, you know, I was laughing. I was kind of just kind of like, what the heck? This is like, wow, it's not that you can't see it anymore. You still can see it. Right? But you know, the attorney general was on the stand this last week. And they're asking, it's like, why is nobody going to you know prosecute? Why why is the Department of Justice doing anything about this stuff in the Epstein files? Well, because if we did then the entire Western world would collapse. Excuse me? Oh, by the way, she's listed on the documents. She's like literally and most of the cabinet of current the current administration who were supposed to be the ones fighting against the pedophilia stuff according to the MAGA crowd. And I'm not Republican or Democrat, so I don't have a dog in this hunt. And but she's on the list. She's on the Epstein list. The attorney general's on the Epstein list. So come on. That's when you start realizing wait a minute. This is like, and I just told you that all ethics is what we believe will benefit us. And you have to come to that realization that it's also true for you. My mind is blown. So officially, you see my brains on the back of the head. Well, well, yeah, that's fucked up, but you just said about Epstein. So all right, as we come to the end, is there anything that you think it is important to leave the world with as we enter this great time of change this year, this year, the fire horse where everything is. Yeah, I think right now it's it's like, you know, I struggle with this as well because there is a tension that comes up, which is, you know, I was very quiet about the whole Gaza thing for a long time, because I didn't want to, you know, I didn't, I just didn't want to get in that fight. And then I realized that I was repressing my feelings on it. So there's sort of a provided, however, that on the non judgment thing, you have to still express your feelings. That's hard to do, but you have to express your feelings that you're suppressing. And so I started to speak out on it because I had to kind of be authentic to myself. And that's when the authenticity becomes a really critical aspect. We're here to exist as authentic beings. And that trumps everything else. Your authenticity trumps everything else. So you have to be able to know when to stand for something that you're passionate about and still not devolve into the triggering. Right. And that's that emotional response where you're angry immediately. And by recognizing that the thing I'm actually judging might actually be the thing I didn't like about myself. There was a hidden aspect of myself that I maybe was tempted by or I had laughed about once and sort of accepted it. You know, that happened to me today on something that I had to realize. I'm like, wow, every single secret, what's actually happening to humanity right now is all the secrets of our dark consciousness are being revealed to us in this outer world. The more we judge it, the more we try to repress it in ourselves and say, that's not me, that's not that. We only propagated more. What we have to start realizing is I am that I am. The first half of your arc of life when you're in your comic path is I'm not that. I'm not. And the second half of your life becomes the name of God. I am that. I am. And that's when you start realizing your dark path. That's your north node. You move into and all your placements start to move into Vedic positions. So you might even change your zodiac because of it. 24 degrees is 24 days effectively. Well. So have a look at your once you know your your north node. Have a look at what happens to your zodiac. I remain in tourists, right? But I go from the beginning, I go from the end of tourists to the very beginning of tourists in the Vedic. And but lots of my placements move. So what I used to have as you know mercury and Gemini, my moon and Gemini are now all in tourists. And that's exactly emblematic of the shift that I've been going through. Also luckily for my relationships, I've moved from being Venus and Eris into Venus and Pisces. So I become a lot softer. My north node goes from Virgo to Pisces, which is your north node. Wow. So of course I had to go from a former CEO and two. But see all of this was planned. Yeah, all of this was planned far, far, far advance by us. And the more you think of yourself as your higher self as your 12d self, probably your 12 dimensional self. And then you're just the lower dimensional avatar that stuck with the level of perception so that you can have the game play realistically. I mean, if we were playing poker and I knew how you're going to play, it's no fun. It's no fun. If you knew how I was going to play, it's also no fun. We wanted to experience this and realize there's no such thing as death. That's not real. So all the things that you look at then all become a luxury. It's just a, you know, it's like the the roomy quote, right? Except I apply it the different way, you know, it's like you are a moment in an ocean, right? An eternity of time. Or you're an eternity time in a single moment. And I think it becomes our choice and incumbent upon us to learn what to do and to decide to express love in those moments both for ourselves and for the outer world. And the thing I really want to hope everybody can remember is that you're perfect just as you are. You're perfect just as you are. And the moment you can start seeing that perfection and inside yourself and fall in love with yourself, then the whole world starts to transform around you. It's not a universe. It's a universe. You can only change the world from the inside out, not from the outside in. Robert. Amen. You are absolutely amazing. Yeah. Thank you so much. All so many nuggets of wisdom. My God. So happy you made the heroes journey from pharmacy to interdimensional wizard. What's up, son? Coming on here, dropping shit, speaking math. I can't follow on my co-shed. He's too smart for me, but I know it's true. In my bones, I feel it. You're brilliant. There are so much. Thank you for everything you do. you are, is there any way you would like to let everyone know how they can follow? Sure. I find you follow you. You can find me on all the social media channels, Robert Edward Grant, and then also on my website, RobertEdwardGrant.com. And then also on my social media platform called Orion Messenger, OrionMessenger.io, which is a super encrypted platform that allows self-sovereignty. And I believe what we're going from right now is like this information age where there's been an asymmetry, where government has had access to encrypted information of all of us that they've easily been able to access. And we've not been able to access them. Yeah. And what's about to happen is the opposite. I like that. And that's going to be a leveling of the playing field. And so that's one of the things I see coming for 2026. I see that humanity is going to say enough is enough. All right. You know what to do. You like to support us? Follow us. Right. Hit the subscribe button. Make sure to go follow RobertEdwardGrant on all of his platforms and websites and all the cool things that he has going on all over the place. Yeah. And until next time, bye. Yeah. Take care, each other. Bye. Bye. [MUSIC PLAYING]