#8 - She Blew Up Before She Was Ready | Brigida

I would just probably describe myself as. I'm someone who's just part of eSports. I'm a broadcast talent. You know, sports commentary. I do that, but for video games. Who is this girl? Who is Brigida? Oh my Brigida. Like all this, all this stuff. Brigida, my Vini. All this was everywhere. What was the peak when you got back? When I got back and when I was streaming with Alter Eagle, it was 40k. 40,000? 50,000 viewers. 50,000 viewers. It's the true elephant. Let me think my best. I think it's. I'll get clipped a lot. It's what people probably a shroom or think about me and the recent stuff going on where someone admitted that. My next guest went from being a fan of the game to standing in one of the biggest stages in eSports. And the thing that she told me that I haven't been able to get out of my mind since then is that even now she still feels like a lucky fan. So without further ado, I want to go ahead and welcome my next guest on a fan. Brigida, welcome to a fan. Hello. So that's how it's said, a fan. A fan. A fan. Because we're on the English broadcast. We pronounce words very uniquely. Peacurely. Yes. Particular layer. Long guy. Fansick Lavin. Fansick Lavin. You're welcome. I want to just start off by saying that, you know, I think a lot of people want me to ask you something very specific. There's an elephant in the room. Everybody's been talking about everybody wants to know. Brigida, tell me right now. What is your favorite Starbucks order? I have always said that I don't really drink coffee. But recently I am starting to try at least. So this is white mocha less caffeine. Less caffeine. Less caffeine. I had to make a note when I ordered that. I was like, make sure it's less caffeine. Did you put make sure? Make sure that it's less caffeine. So if you don't want to buy Brigida a coffee, now you know our order. I think that's what everybody wants to know. I'm just kidding. All right, let's go ahead and start. Brigida, first off, I've done this, especially since obviously people are going to see this and know that we are co-workers, basically we're friends. We've been friends since 20. We've known each other since 2021. I'm going to let you go ahead and tell the viewers, listeners out there, how do we know each other and then who is Brigida? 2021 was the first ever cast search. Because I think we do have another one this year, but it has a different name. Tell it. It's a talent academy. So at the time, it was the inaugural cast search. The first time NPL Philippines ever did that and we were batch mates. Sounds weird. We were batch mates. Were you still in college, though? Yes. I was still in college. I hope we can get a picture of me in college. No, like the cast search. Well, technically you were in college then. That was me with races, with short hair and highlights. Yeah. Okay, before the sake of the podcast, I will provide a photo later on. Okay. Yeah. So, 2021, we made it to top eight. We had a wild card. Yeah. Top nine. It was Jay. Jay. Uh, shot us to Jay, Jerelio. But it was the eight of us. Nice, you and I were on the same team because we split the two teams. One was team rock heart and the other one was team Rob. Uh, yeah. So it was you, me, Hans, uh, the eventual winner, the eventual winner. Yeah, the eventual winner. I don't think we were as close during cast search because I somehow felt shy around him. I think you're a shy around most people. Yeah, yeah. He was, he was a very tall big guy, a foreigner. So I don't know how to approach him. I think we become, I rebecame much closer when I finally entered NPL when I finally transitioned to the English broadcast because I, I wasn't really close with anyone to honest. I think at most chantele, um, chantele, you came in in season 13 officially, officially season 13. So for those that are wondering, cast search would have been right before season eight. So it was five, essentially, yeah, five seasons later that you would join the NPL. I was not immediately part of NPL after cast search. I think I was the last or one of the last few people to enter NPL from our batch of cast research because Hans also, he got into NPL. Yes. I want to say, I'm 10. I was a say 10 or 11. 10 or 11. And I, I think, yeah, after him, I was two or three seasons after him. I so felt to me always felt like one of the most approachable people. I don't want to look at him while I'm saying this because he's just probably going to laugh on me. But he really does feel like one of the most approachable people. I guess it's also partly because we were batch mates and I feel like I could just always go to him whenever, regarding whatever. And he would pretty much understand me and share his own experience to me because he, we started out similar. Similar. Did you have background though when you joined cast search? Same as Hans none. None, right? So I had none either. I had very little, if anything. I think I did like an online cast once for a different game. Yeah. Yeah. And then so we had similar experiences. And then I would say just like for the last guest episode when we had in on here, I think I really connected with you guys both during, I want to say M6. You guys is first international. That was, wait, was it? Yeah. Your first big international in English. In English. In English. On the English desk was both for Ingan and Brigadier was M6 in Malaysia. I didn't necessarily like take you guys under my wing. I just felt like I really connected with you guys in that sense of I was seeing you both go through what I went through in MSC 2022. And down from like being incredibly nervous over like almost over preparing. And just having a ton of questions. How did that feel? How do your first international feel? Wait, before I answer that, I think you should pull up that clip of us dancing in the elevator after our last guest. Yes, please. We got to pull that up. That was after when you finished. Because we weren't part of the playoffs anymore. So we were so happy. To speak Tagalog, basically. Tagalog finally. And he was there. Take a good video of us. I think it's also during that time where I felt most connected to the both of you. And even for like the other international events following that SPS, we had that in Malaysia. Malaysia. And we weren't necessarily on the same broadcast, I think. I was just there. I was there. I was there. But ever since M6, we started coming really close even whenever we're at work and stuff like that. We kind of built this. We were the sons. The sons? We were the children. We were the children of the father. I was the father. I was the father. Brigadier, how would you explain then, how would you describe yourself now, especially since so much has changed in the past? I don't know. Months, six months, let's say six months. How would you describe yourself now? And then how would you explain what you do to someone who doesn't know? OK, I would just probably describe myself as someone, someone who's just part of, I know it's very simple, but I'm someone who's just part of esports. And occasionally an influencer, I guess, a KOL, if like brands reach out to me. But for the most part, if you weren't really familiar with what I do, I'd just say, you know, sports commentary, I do that, but for video games. That's exactly what I say. Yeah, I always say like, either before if you would say like, I'm a shoutcaster, they don't really know what that is. And if you say, I'm a commentator, you usually have to go and say like, yeah, you know sports, how there's like people talking over the game, that's me, but for a video game. Yeah. So I do, I do the same thing, you know, and I feel like that usually gives me a sense of people an idea. So that's how you explain yourself, basically, someone who does things occasionally outside, different things outside of esports to, especially lately. But going back real quick, before you ended up in esports, because you already brought up cash research, what did you go to school for? A.B. My course was AB Communications. That's the thing I took up AB Communications because I didn't really know what I wanted to do upon graduating college. So I just took up AB Calm because it was a very broad course. So I had the chance to explore tracks under it like add in PR, broadcast, film, major journalism and so on. Yeah. I just knew I wanted it to be related to calm. To calm, calm communications. But it was, the timing was weird because we were the pandemic batch. So I started out my first two and a half years in college online. Online. So it. That was so different then. Yeah, it was very different. So I didn't also, I didn't have a lot of extracurricular things going on too. was just my. my org, which was again related to gaming, because I felt like there wouldn't be any difference if you joined that org, whether it be online or on site, because it's a gimmicks. So was that how you going to MLBB? No. I've been playing MLBB long before that. I was playing MLBB since I think grade 9 or 10. That would have been when it came out, right? Was that 2017? I guess a few months or a year after it came out. I just saw a fellow patchmate, like a reclassmate, playing it, and then I just started becoming interested since then. Because for those, I don't know. Brickett is also really good at the game. I think your highest stars is. It's not stars. It was when we were still using the point system. Point system? What was the point? What was the highest points? 1,200 something. Yeah. So those that know no in terms of our game that we worked for, that is a very high rating, basically. And then, so how did you go from college doing mask-com to going into cast research? How did that happen? So I did mention that I was part of my org. It was a gaming org, and it was not acknowledged for lack of a better term by the school just yet, because we had two categories for the orgs in our school. It was the League of Independent Organizations, Independent, because again, they were recognized by the school, and then we had the. I forgot the term. We had the other group of orgs were under and recognized by the administration. So for Loyola Gaming, because I studied natinayo, I was just there as a player. I started out as a player, because I signed up for their MLBB team. It was the first year of them starting to have mobile team, mobile games. This would have been before all the collegiate stuff happening now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the time where I think there was a stigma, I guess, that when it comes to gaming orgs, it still should be the PC games taking charge. And they were just starting to slowly open up to the mobile games. So yeah, I guess part of the first batch of MLBB teams, but I was a team one. Two team two. Is that like a B team? Yeah. Were you a B team? What was your role back then? Back then I was still made. Still made. Yeah, I was a major. So then how did that lead to cash research? In my course, compared to other courses, we didn't have like summer classes for the first two years. They call it intercession. And then again, a lot of my orgmates who were in different, who were in other courses had their intercession. So they just felt busy even though they were doing all this gaming stuff. I felt bored. I felt like I had a bit too much time. Yeah. And then I was starting to think about my future and I was starting to feel worried about how, yeah, I mean this course because I'm trying to explore, but at the same time, I still don't know what I want to do. And whenever I think about what I enjoy doing, it's just gaming. And I don't think you could really consider it to be like a career path because gaming is just very. Maybe then. Yeah, it's just gaming. This is 2020, 2021. 2021, so I was starting to consider like, okay, so what are the things related to gaming that are related to my profession, related to my course that can eventually turn into a profession or something that I could make like a living out of. And then they suddenly launched cash research. So everything just felt like it was such perfect timing. And it was the first time I was willing to really take a risk. To me, it was a risk because I was studying. It was like the first ever cash research and I had no idea. How did you see it, by the way, online, somewhere, Facebook? Okay. So I saw it on, I think, back then, Twitter. It was like the last day for submission. So how did you, did you like do your own audition video and like just submit it or. I did everything at home. Well, of course, because it was a pandemic. I had no choice, but. So I just consulted with my Orgmates, I guess, and I just told my family that I'll be trying this out. There was no guarantee, but I just wanted to share with them that I'm trying something out because it was the first time I was willing to do something as bold as that, I guess, because I was very scared of a lot of things back then. I just always wanted to be safe or comfortable. Yeah. So this was like your first time when you're like, I'm going to do something different. It's your risk. And how do your parents feel about you joining cash research? What do they think at the time? I wouldn't say they were as supportive and I also wouldn't say that they were against it. They was just more neutral maybe because again, they barely knew anything about like Mobile Legends, MPL or the esports scene in general. I also knew very little about the scene, but I just knew I loved playing Mobile Legends so I wanted to give it a try. So I guess they were just supportive because they knew that I really enjoyed doing that and they like playing that. They were, I guess, some. What do you call it? There were some. They were a bit worried. Second thoughts, Armadar, hesitation. Sorry, hesitation. They knew I enjoyed doing it, but they knew I enjoyed it too much. And it's video games. And I guess of course as a parent, you would think, what would you get out of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. I did a talk once. This was actually in the US in a school. They asked me to specifically speak to the students out there and they invited the parents because of that exact train of thought. Like, a lot of the adults had told me because it's a bit different in the western part of the world, even high school has eSports extra curricular activities. So a lot of the parents wanted to know what opportunities are out there if my kid is interested in this because over there, and I know this is a bit starting here, you can actually get college, what do they call it? Scholarships. Yeah, college scholarships to go to school for eSports in the western part of the world. So that can happen. And my talk over there was actually about the opportunities for eSports that aren't just broadcast or just being a professional gamer. And so that's really funny because you would have graduated before you even got to MPL then because you joined, you said, right? I, what did you graduate and then you were into MPL? When was the first MSE? First MSE would have, wait, in 24. In Riyadh? Yeah, it's 24. What season of MPL were we in? That would have been, I feel like 14, something like that. I already graduated. You just graduated or? I just graduated because graduation, and then I think less than a week, was MSE. I flew out for MSE. So was there ever a time when your parents were like, are you going to do this full time then or did they ask you if you're going to do something for mass-conrelated? I think a lot of the fresh grads nowadays don't really work right after they graduate. So they take some time to rest or to celebrate the fact that they finally graduated. And I felt the same. I was considering looking for a job that would give me, I guess, a stable income, eventually. But for the meantime, I just wanted to enjoy my being full-time talent. And it was to me a break because I've always been doing my work in MPL, in MDL, in mobile legends, in child casting, alongside my studies. Yeah, yeah. So it was the first time I had less to think about. But things just getting busier. Yeah, they did. And basically, once you got in and then once you started, nothing just stopped. It never slowed down. Basically, it was kind of like this acceleration. You started though, if I remember right, on the Tagalog broadcast. Yes, yes, yes. How long did you stay on the Tagalog broadcast for? So MDL, of course, had no English broadcast. So ever since I started casting, 2022 or late 2022, up until season 14, 14, I was full Tagalog. Because the first MSE, you were a Tagalog. Also, Tagalog. It's 11, casted for one day Tagalog. It's 12. I had a few more days Tagalog. 13, only Tagalog. 14, only Tagalog. And then S15, we started or I started jumping back and forth with the Filipino and English broadcast. But still, no, no English desk casting. It was just English panelings. Panel, yeah. And then S16 was full English. How did that feel? Like, were you? Was that more of your decision or was that like from the big bosses to say okay? We're gonna you're gonna go permanently English And then how did you like feel about that? I think I think there was a time they asked me If I felt like I wanted to try English I think they ask a lot of us yeah They do if like what roles are you most comfortable in they asked me if I wanted to go all the time I'm like no Diko kaya Diko kaya wait for April fools wait for April fools. It's it's past April Next year last year we did that Yeah, we did so if you want a clip of nice one that the Gallup broadcast just search on April So they asked you you said yeah, I'll try it did and then you actually end up being a mainstay on English and then Your big I would say international debut on English was like I mentioned earlier M6 that was the first time you and Egan both I think a lot of people Even that time M6 a lot of people were like whoa who's this new talent because again It's not always that we get also a female English talent Especially internationally more so even locally in MPL Philippines. It's very hard to find a Someone who's ready to sit in that chair with such big personalities and You know, I know that's already there for the MPL Philippines talent pool. What about the international talent pool? Don't get me started. Oh my god So that was after S15 S15 which was a season I had zero English desk cast It was all English panel with Renoir or rock heart And then M6 they won they made me sit beside Mirko, yeah for all eight best of ones here. Oh, yeah, I was eight best of ones now So for those that might not be super familiar Mirko is Basically one of the best English castors for our game He's known as probably the best play-by-play caster and so for someone that is entirely new to the international scene Who has done very little English then to go and open by the way? It was an opening day of the biggest international tournament Just to lay the groundwork here for a break of a so she if I remember I you had a couple breakdowns Explained the entire picture of how I yes had seven breakdowns the day before day number one That was that's a that's a number I will never forget it was actually seven It was actually seven. I don't know why I counted every single one of them So was it just overwhelming like yeah, what was the biggest thing that was kind of making you feel that way before that because it really felt like trial Try a fire I It's understandable to like be part of day one, but I I felt like if I'm day one and I'm beside Mirko and I'm day one It's like I'm the first person they'll hear they'll see and I'm new so It was I make or break moment for me. I guess when in fact I feel like I should be less hard at myself because it's my first day It's my first cast It's our first cast But I just can't help but constantly pressure myself because I really had to make sure that I would deliver because It can't just be about me. It was they one of not just Brigida. It was they one of m6. Yeah, and I I didn't want to disappoint so I Like we cried I cried a lot. I had to cry everything out. So I would just feel Less tense following day. So then once you actually went through it and you had the opening day and you had the opening experience with Mirko How did it feel After you had finished that first cast? I I would say I felt unstoppable I felt very relieved Because if I was able to go through or get through day one Then that means I could just take whatever I learned and be a lot more equipped for the dates to come and That was when I appreciated that I was part of day one because Got the cast for the first day. So I already pretty much You got it out of the way it works and because you were kind of anchoring right am I yes? That's what that to yes, I was yeah, so for those that don't know again anchoring. She's leading she's leading the conversation She's leading the flow of the broadcast So again in context she is leading again one of the biggest castors in mobb and it's her opening day And you know, so that's why when I was talking to Brigida before she went on broadcast I you know, I was like just take a deep breath. You're gonna be fine like you you're prepared for this You're ready to rock this and you'll feel much better after the first cast And then I think after that you pretty much it was more so of getting used to working with the different people Yeah, you know, hang on had a little bit of the unfair advantage because he just worked with me Yeah, yeah, so him and I were paired together for his first few casts And then Mirko and then Mirko Yeah, and then those two together was also a really fun thing to watch just because you have you know too crazy amounts of energy and people jumping and people jumping And good thing that those those tables and everything were sturdy because they both like are very physically active The episode before this I talked about growth Whether that's online career or anything like that and how fast growth sometimes you feel like you can't really catch up to it internally I would say m6 wasn't this like Burst of growth for you just yet you did get some attention You know it started to build things for you. I feel like you were now You are also now I feel like a mainstay towards english like m6 kind of solidified You it more as an english talent than a Filipino talent I guess because We had we had our preseason talent briefing after m6 heading into s season 16. Yeah And then we still all were sure of whether or not I would still be in the Tagalog english To situation or if I would just be mainstay english and That's when munton finally told us that yes, you will be officially part of the english broadcast and then when we're Speaking of joke about yeah, so we poached him Him Them them because it was me and yeah Herring on basically even at that moment because these were your words like did you still feel like a lucky fan? Yes because it's like A somewhat of a reset Because I get to work with a new set of people again Because again as 15 I didn't really cast for you guys. Yeah, I was just with Rennwood rock heart. I was paneling so It felt like I was about to relearn everything and go through Like a fresh start although I did get to cast in m6 but mpl is different because it should feel More familiar to you, but at the same time I was still I Was considering myself as learning. Mm. I guess what I think we always consider ourselves as learning But all the more during that time. Yeah, I would say that even now I've been in for Nine seasons. I think I still like considering myself. I'm learning like I learned things and I always learn and try to adapt Even though I've done this for you know five six years now Do you feel like you belong there though at that moment like an M's like let's say m6 or post m6 Your first time as a pure english talent and mpl Philippines like did you ever have doubts? If you actually belonged there of course I would not cry if I felt like Yeah, I'm suitable For this stage or like I can handle this. I'm 100% sure that I'm confident of course not um, I had to Prove myself that I could handle everything that I was capable of keeping up and Casting with these big names with you guys who are just so used to everything like I was asking advice from people because I also wasn't as confident about My English on broadcast just yet like I know I speak english. I grew up speaking English But at the same time I just got so used to casting in Tagalog so giri and would say stuff like just start thinking in English So yeah flows naturally more easily when you're on desk and I guess a couple other Advises to from the other talents, but I didn't feel like I was part even After m6 it was just the start of maybe Me just wanting to really work on myself more um And Again, it's it's a mindset that has sometimes became a problem for me, but I just really look up to like everyone so much I feel like for the past few seasons it's somewhat hindered me also because I just have so much respect that I always consider myself to be the smaller, the younger, the newer talent. So, on the desk. So you like even now, even in season 17, I know you respect the everyone that you're working with and everything, but even now you still feel that way. So a certain extent. Yes. Because like there's no one who came after me really. Like, even if you say, even if you'd say those, my other co-tallons from MDL who eventually also got into MPL like Yoshi and Quarty, we were also batchmates. So they just got into MDL at a different time. So there was no one really like new. And they're on Tagalog. Yeah. So I still feel like, I'm that person. You're that person. Yeah. What do you think it's going to take for you to feel? Is it just more time or to feel like you really belong there and you're at the equal level of everyone? I think now I'm starting to feel or I'm starting to think less about that, especially after M7 maybe because M7 was a year after M6 and I just kept M7 with a mindset of, yeah, I cannot feel the same way I did in M6 because that just means I didn't really learn or I didn't really grow. And so M7 happened. I got to cast again with the exactly people that started casting with M6 and I just felt I think a lot more better now. I'm not really like, yes, confident, but not too confident. And it was more on like focusing on, I guess, the dynamics that I've had with other people because M6, yes, I also tried to work on that, but it was more on the techniques. It was more on the fundamentals and like the basic stuff that I had to focus on this time around. It was more on how do I blend with like this. Discaster or that? Yeah, this specific set of castors because M7, I think we had a lot more shuffles. Yeah, we did. I had a similar feeling to this before, you know, when I had mentioned them one of my episodes that I went through this when I first went through my first international and it was, I felt a little scared because I was supposed to, if I remember when we went there, it was either me or Wolf or me or Leo that was supposed to go. Eventually, it was Leo that ended up going, but Leo wouldn't actually go until the group stage or the playoffs. So I had to go by myself. Well, Maro was there, but she's doing the hosting stuff. So I had to go by myself and I felt very similar to you, Brigitte, where I looked up to all these people and I remember going to the rehearsal because I was one of the first ones to the hotel. And I went to the rehearsal and I was nervous as hell and I walked into the room and over on the long table is Gideon, LaFell, Mirico. They're like all of them. Everybody, basically everybody was just sitting at this long table, even the Malaysian castors, big shout outs to all of them. They're all great guys. They were all at the table. And then I would just remember before I even sat down and grabbed the food and I sat down and then Gideon just looks at me. He's like, I've heard so much about you, Naisu. He's like, tell me this, why are you so good at English? Why do you love MLBB? And why are you so damn handsome? And I was like, I just laughed and it broke the ice. And that's why I love, you know, like Gideon, he's still like that today. So that was a nice way to kind of just get to know everyone. I mean, you know how it is in the talent room, especially the international talent room. It's freaking crazy. And then my first broadcast was with Aeterna and I want to say, I think it was me Aeterna and another cast that's not with us anymore, but it was interesting because I was also very, very nervous and I was just so, I was so wrapped up in like making sure that I did what I need to do in that, because I was anchoring. Yeah. I also anchored my very first international cast. So I know how you felt. That's why I was so relatable to you and how you were like, oh my God, nice, you'll have to anchor Miracle of all people in M6. And Gersel's trio. And mine was trio. And so I was just like, oh my God. And I got through it and then it was great. The rest of my first international experience was great. And then each, I feel like each international, each MPL Philippines, you learn and you learn and you learn. And it's always been like that, you know. So even for M7, if we look at M7, I could still go back and look at M7 and take out little pieces of improvement or constructive criticism that I got. And I love people that are still willing to give you some of that critique that you need. One that's really, really good at that is Leo. You know, of course Leo, he's like the coach of many, many casters out there, a big shout out to Leo. He is someone who will always be open to giving you a little input on your casting. It doesn't matter if you're even casting for a year or two or if you've done 10 internationals or one, Leo's really good at that of just kind of giving this feedback. And sometimes it's simple reminders of stuff that we learned in the foundations of casting, you know. And sometimes it might, because you get, you kind of, if you've done it for a long time, you might forget these little things that you're supposed to be doing and or ways that you can improve already on top of what you do. You know, and so I feel like that's something that even I tried to do with you and Ingon in your first international. And then again, M7, you got to join a lot of different mixes. I know you also got sick. So you're out for a portion of M7. And then did you actually get to, was the hosting thing after you got sick? No, no, it was before it was before you got sick. During the first few days of M7, because a couple of talents got sick, basically, basically, your burst of, let's just say for what it is, your burst of fame that happened in M7 was because you got, you got basically asked to host, right? Like that's what happened if I remember right. Someone was sick. They said, Brita, can you host? My schedule for M7 was during the latter part of the group stage. So my first day was supposed to be, I think, let's just say five or six, maybe. But I flew out a bit earlier just because I wanted to familiarize myself with the environment. I just wanted to be there by the start of M7. Do we fly at the same time? No, we didn't, right? No, we didn't. You were there during wild car. During wild car, yeah, okay. So I flew out before day one and then I had no schedule up until, yeah, let's say five or six, I'm not sure. But a turn now got sick. Yeah. And the day before she was supposed to host, I got a message asking if you're in Jakarta, right? So what do you think about or how do you feel about possibly hosting tomorrow? So that was the exact message and the words that at night, oh, the night before. So I was just laying in bed and I, I don't know, like I couldn't process it at first. Because again, I was there to cast. Yeah. So like M6 happened. I went crazy the day before. And it was not my schedule to go crazy yet. Just like I still have a couple days to go crazy. I still have a couple days before I potentially big down if I felt like breaking down, but I didn't really break down. But then that happened. So, okay. Okay. So you say yes? Of course I say yes. Because why or what would be my reason for saying no? Did you like way out the frozen cons of this? Like were you like? Yes. I did not immediately open the message when I received it. I was just thinking, okay, wait, wait, Rita, Rita, if you host, if you host, that's different from casting, you're going to open, but that's different from casting. You're going to talk to players. That's different from casting. And the way I, the way I saw like them hosting the previous day. So of course, it's very, they're just very confident. They just have to stand in front of the stage and for everyone and then talk to the players as if like, and you have to make the players comfortable as you have to be comfortable. You cannot be stiff. You cannot look weird in front of the camera. So there were a lot of things that I tried considering. But at the same time, I just, it just came down to yeah. Why would I say no? Was this one of those other moments where you're like, it's a risk, but I'll just take it? Yeah. And it was also like, I guess things happened for a reason and it was an opportunity for me to learn something new again. So I just said, yeah, okay, it's though. I don't have enough. I will just probably repeat the same code. Yeah, because that's it. But let's do it. So I agreed to. post for that day and surprisingly you would see I was kind of shaking during the intro. But as time went by, I think it got better. You end up posting and again for our listeners or viewers out there, this was much bigger step and that's why Brigitte probably felt that way because when you host you open the show for all the languages. And she's usually just seen on the English broadcast. This is seen on every language that the world championship is put out and she's there. And so the reach comparison just from being on the English broadcast, which is also pretty massive for the world championship, being on all languages as the main host is pretty crazy. And so it is a very big moment and totally valid while you're probably a little nervous and shaking obviously at the beginning. So if you think about it, all the host out there, like they do an incredible job in preparation and presentation of themselves. And so you have all these other things that you have to worry about before you end up posting. So you do it that first time and I remember because I think I was, I don't think I was casting that day. I was at the hotel. It was like my off day. And I just remember after you had done your opening segment already the internet was like blowing up. And I any any type of scrolling that I did on Facebook or TikTok or Instagram, your face in that hosting opening was in all different languages posted like, who is this? Who is this girl? Who is Brigida? Oh my Brigida like all this all this stuff. Brigida my Vini all this was everywhere. Was your phone that day that first day just blowing up like what was going on for you personally? It wasn't really blowing up just yet because they don't know my socials. They didn't know my socials yet. So I just kept seeing my face. And I think more so after the alter ego interview, that's when things started to blow up a lot more. Was that the first there? That was during the day. That was the day. I did segments with players that one of them was my interview with Nino and Yazoo. Oh yeah, the Nino interview. Yeah, so that's when my phone just had countless notifications popping up. It's something that happened too fast. I didn't really get to process it while I was still there because I still had work. I had post-match interviews. I also of course had those segments that were in spot out. I had one with team Josef Falcons and then it wasn't put out anymore because the game were really running schedule but it depends on how much time we have left. It was a very busy day. So not until I got home, home back to the hotel. Back to the hotel. I wasn't really able to process everything. I think even after I was reading. Josef, probably for the most of M7, I feel like you weren't really able to fully process at all because after that, then you eventually got sick. I got sick right before playoff. Right before playoff, yeah. And then did you only host the one day or did you end up. Yeah, it was just one day and then all succeeding days, I just followed my initial schedule. Yeah, you were just casting. And then I remember even though Breita had only done that one hosting day when she was casting. A lot of people actually went to go watch the English broadcast to see her there. And so M7 was basically. Wrap it up as M7 was a massive boost to the world being aware of who Brigaday is. And at least the caster, right? Brigaday the caster. I remember as soon as we got back to from M7, I think you had that whole stream. You did your first TikTok stream and it was crazy, right? And then you just had this rush of attention and people trying to message you, trying to contact you, trying to collab with you. How did you feel about all that once you were back in the Philippines, enabled the process M7? Still very overwhelmed. The followers, the messages, the people watching my live. The numbers I see are very different from the numbers I used to see for M7. My viewers. I did hit like I guess 1k or 2k viewers at times. Essentially when I do watch parties, I did my highest ever was maybe 3k or 4k before M7. Like after M7 that's probably even up to now, probably the lowest. The lowest number of viewers I'll ever get when I'm live. When I got back and when I was streaming with other eagles, 40k. 40k? 50k viewers. But that was again mostly donations. Now I think it's slowly becoming more stable in terms of demographics. Because before it used to really be 80% or 90% in Filipino. Now I think it's balanced out. What will probably be no why? Which is also the streaming. The rest of your socials, which I think is something maybe you pay a little more attention to. You never been like this streamer streamer. You're not a streamer streamer. You would just go live. You do your thing. You're a true chill. I know you used to do it even back. When you first got into NPL. Streaming for you is just this kind of side thing that you do. But I do think that you really focus and curate your social media. Especially now. How did that feel? Did that change a lot coming from M7 and now a lot of the stuff. You mentioned you do a lot of stuff outside of eSports. It's especially now how does that feel for you to be doing all of these different things even sometimes even for other games for social media content. Maybe one of the biggest changes I've had since M7 in terms of my social media would be I post less stories now because every time I do I just suddenly find it on TikTok. It's just reposted. It gets turned into an edit or something like that. I used to be a lot more carefree about the things I put on my stories, the kind of pictures I upload on my stories. It's just really mostly on stories. I don't even post my family as much anymore because it's a joke at home. It's turned into a joke at home now that whenever I post them they get surprised because they see their faces on TikTok as well. Of course they don't really want that. They want to keep a privacy. I post less about my family too even and my other friends. How does your parents feel? How did your parents feel about that for you? Coming from a place real quick before how they were like, "Go do your thing after you graduated." Seeing where you are today, seeing all that growth and everything. It costs some of the privacy obviously. How do they feel about everything? If they don't admit it, I feel like of course they're happy to see this happening because it's a measure of success in a way. It shows you how much people recognize you a lot more now and even people close to them or even people they know suddenly bring up my name and ask them about me and it's surprising to them. I can feel that they're happy but also it doesn't take away the fact that of course they would also be a bit more worried about me because with fame, so there will be people who would be not as rich with about your fame and who will probably take advantage of that. I guess they've been more vocal about their reminders. Like how to be safe with everything basically. I was going to ask you, how do you navigate that? How do you navigate deciding what is good or beneficial for you and your family or in comparison to what might not be like, do you confide in most of your family or like there are certain friends that you really confide into or do you do most of it by yourself? Most of it by myself, I guess because I don't want to stress them out. As much. Like I can see how they're already worried about a lot of things. They see enough on social media and if I really need to consult, let's say, I would ask I would ask them, I would ask some of my friends but I avoid trying, I try my best to not involve them a lot of times. Because I just don't want to add to the things that they're already dealing with. With the biggest thing that you feel like you lost with all this, be your privacy then? Yes, but I'm not saying it with like an unhappy or ungrateful tone. Yeah, just surprised you. Yes. Of course, it's a given, it's a fact that you lose it when all these things happen to you. But it comes along with all the other things that also meet you happy and like all the new friends and supporters that you've gained. It's just like unavoidable. Does it feel real? Like you have your rest, have you rast yourself that? Like is this real? Is this real life? Yeah. Yeah. Even because even as a person, you know, how low key of a person that I am, how introverted I am, yes, you may argue that what do you mean? You're a casser. How could you be introverted? But I think a lot of us actually are. Yeah. That's true. That's true. So what you see in front of the camera is actually very different from how we are behind the scenes. And one of the more quiet people. Yes. Yes. Yes. The talent room can get very crazy. But I am one of the quieter ones. Wider ones. I sit in the corner. She was in shock her first time with international talent, basically, to put it that way. Like even the, even the bus that we had in EWC, the first one with English and Filipino talents, the bus ride on the way, your face on some of the vlogs was just like, what is going on? Yeah. That first EWC, they were already making fun of me. But by my M-San and you know how it is, you know, you know how it is. But yeah, I would say I would actually agree with you on that. Like I think the majority of the talents lean more towards being introverted except maybe one or two, you know. But we have all learned to sort of adapt and be at least ambiverts. Like we are very extroverted, unbroadcast and you know around work people if we have to. We know how to turn that switch on if we have to. But I think yeah, deep down we all enjoy being a little introverted. And you know, so your life now, you're very, you're out there, people are watching, almost if they can, every move that you put out there, you know. Does this also make it harder than to have like narratives thrown out there and you know what I mean? Like people assuming things because you're essentially, I mean you're more than just like a K-Weller and Florence, we're now in Brigadier. Like let's say it for what it is, you're basically an internet celebrity, right? Like you're that level. I know you don't want to say it yourself. You don't want to admit it yourself. That's fine. But you're in the eyes of a lot of people, right? And so clearly those people are going to have their own assumptions about you and your life and things going on. Like how do you feel about all that? I don't know if it's partly me just being a believer of less talk, less mistake because I, I would say I'm confident with like the kind of mindset I have and how I'm able to defend the things I do or myself and justify like everything that's happening in my life and the reason why I make certain decisions, but also it's probably because I know that if I speak more about myself, it will just contribute to this never ending conversation or people also like throwing out a lot more stuff about me too. And I just, I just really don't like making it about me. So I kind of avoid topics or like things I see online, even if it involves me. And so I guess that's why I think they have a bit more freedom to create their own assumptions about who I really am as a person and why I do certain things. I think it's something you can't avoid. Like regardless if you speak up a bit more, regardless if you stay quiet, like these things, these stories will always be there. At the very least, I guess if it's just really getting out of hand or below the belt, that's when I'll feel like I really want to say something. I really want to clarify certain things. But so long as they're just talking about you, they're just saying stuff about you, that will always come along with being out there. So I'll just, I just rather not stress myself out and contribute to the noise because again, I am a quiet person. So I'll just like, yeah. You just deal it with that way. Yeah. And I'm just like people are going to be talking, people are going to have what they want to say about it. I know sometimes that's hard to escape, you know, and being out there in public or being tied to esports in general, especially a game this big and being in front of so many eyes, you're going to be seen, whether you want to, like, whether you want to have it or not, like you're going to be seen. And when you get to a growth level that you've experienced in the past six months or so, you can't really escape it. So you just kind of deal with it the way you can, you know, and I know I joked about it in the beginning, but obviously like a lot of people have had their eyes on you and things going around in your life, you know, specifically. And I think you handled it the best way possible, honestly, like I think you're, yeah, I do. I think you just, you don't need to go out and, you know, talk about it all the time. You don't have to, you don't have to go and give that answer or those answers to everyone because either way, even if you do, like you just said, even if you talk about it, people are still going to make narratives or assumptions. There's certain ways. And I think at the end of it all, whatever you believe is true, where is your life and the people that you're experiencing it with, that's what matters. You know, there's always going to be outside, say or outside noise. And it's better if you just kind of accept that and move through life and the way you want to move. But I do want to bring up one of the things you mentioned earlier on too, because I feel like this moment was probably your first big growth moment, like internally. And this is going back to season 12. You know what I'm talking about though you. This was your first, because I remember this happening. I was there. I was there. You were there. You made a mistake and you got a lot of backlash for it. And this is tied into, you know, everyone's going to have something to say. And one of the questions I get asked a lot is, how do you deal with the public or people criticizing you or saying something about you online? Like how do you deal with it and everything? Are you dealt with it a lot? This would back in season 12. So this would have been one of your first couple seasons into the league. And do you want to talk about it? Like go ahead and talk us through that moment a little bit on what happened. I wasn't even part of MPL yet. I was still in MDL. We were just doing swaps. Like the, there were talents from MDL who occasionally had days in MPL, which is also very interesting because they did it during playoffs, not during the regular season. Like they decided to slot us in during the playoffs and not during the regular season. But it's okay. That was trio cast that day. I was with Shantel and Wolf. I was played by play in the second series because we still had two best of fives like the normal playoffs format. But I was not supposed to cast that series. This is something I never really talk about because like even before I did not feel the need to defend myself because a mistake was a mistake. But of course there's a reason why things happened. So that day I was just supposed to cast the first series, which was me in the anchor role. So it was more storyline heavy. It was different from what was required of you when you're just a play by play. And the storyline from that first series, it sounds, it sounds, it just really sounds funny if you hear it. But the storyline for that first series is whoever wins qualifies to M5. So that was the storyline I had in mind. I kept putting an emphasis on that idea and just how how I usually talk about storyline. Yeah. Especially when you're towards the end of a series because you would have to highlight that. It's tied in. People get reminded. And so you get to establish and complete the stories that you've laid out and stuff like that. I think at the moment we were just really a bit more technical about the things that we're going on during the broadcast. And I can't remember if it reached a game five or not, but me being an overthinker, I did not have enough time to transition from the mindset of being an anchor to play by play. It was really just that. So even when I was already doing play by play and also partly pressured because It was a new set of co-casters and for some reason wolf. I have always been pressured when I sit beside you because it goes back to the entire so much respect for the people but I feel like he's just so smart. He's very smart. He's very smart. Best analyst out there. And me being a little girl, this new felt, oh my gosh. Like I'm sitting beside the best analyst in the world and I'm not blaming him. You felt the pressure because you were just shantel too. Yeah, I felt pressured in between these two guys because that was a little, was it lower bracket? It was a pretty intense game. It wasn't intense game. It didn't matter but whoever qualified did not get into, does not get into M5 just yet. They had to go up against another team. But again, me carrying over the exact same storyline from the previous series. Suddenly I flirted out that same thought when I did my final call. And I could still remember the look on their faces. They were also very shocked. And we tried to, I remember shantel trying to save like what happened where I said, but of course you take the highlights from that last siege. And you didn't, you can't really edit it out. Like what you say during that moment stays there. So people saw that but yeah, it's a, it's a very honest mistake. It was an honest mistake and I remember just thinking like, oh man, because I know how that can feel as an anchor when you make a mistake like that. And especially because like you mentioned, you're not even in MPL yet. Like it's, it's almost like they were bringing you guys in from the MDL to just go ahead and try and then you know you make a mistake. So like that, how did that affect you personally though? Like well, after that happened, I know you said you didn't really address it or defend yourself much, but like personally, what did you go through? I did address it. I just posted like an apology. And like what I got from it and what I'll do moving forward, it's just more on that. It's not dwelling on the mistake and stuff, but it took time before I eventually got to put that out because I just locked myself up. I was crying because I heard so many things was because I agree. I agree. You could say a lot of things like you would say, why did she say that? Yeah, was she not prepared? Did she not know? Was she not aware that these are the stakes? And I get where they're coming from because it was still regardless of what happened, a winning moment for one of these teams. A very important moment for these teams. And I probably wasn't able to give just this to what happened during that moment. So I get where they're coming from really. It's just, I guess what I don't understand is how it had to come along with the other unnecessary remarks. That they also said about me because I think those are no longer things that could be counted as constructive criticism or pointing out someone's mistakes. They were already below the belt and very offensive. And it hurt me because I was a no until now I'm a softie. I'm super super soft as a person and you felt it. So how did you develop this thick skin that's needed? Like now being so out there with it in front of everyone. Is it not thick? Is it just like? No, it's not thick. It's just, yeah. It's just there and like you've learned to handle it better internally, obviously. I would say that something like that, and it's so funny because I experienced this even in M6, I made a mistake on broadcast. Yeah, and it was, you don't know about this. It deals with the past of M6. And it was a morning cast. And my brain wasn't working. And guess what I call the M6 pass? What? The M6 pass? No, I was there. I was there. So you can imagine me. I don't know who would have been mad about that. And ended up saying bad words to me or anything like that. But it was just one of those moments. That was like. That was a funny mistake. Yeah, but I was still like, oh my god, I was a barist. Because it's the world championship. And I'm like, here I am. And then not only that, but then all the co-tallance in each of their broadcasts made sure that they threw it back and joked about it or they said it themselves. And that's what I love about the national talents. They'll cover you. And I mean, if they need to, and it's just a funny thing, but when you go through that, you go through something like that. That's one thing we always have to kind of take in consideration for broadcast. It's live. So what you say is out there, you know, like some of the great monocurs out there now. I was on desk if you wouldn't have been so. You know, but it's one of things like you can't you can't redo it. Yeah, it's already out there. And you know, so that was I feel like when I saw you go through that, but then shortly after, you know, the preceding seasons and stuff, you're like, I feel like you really figured that figured out what you had to do to get the confidence to go be up on the broadcast again. Because I think that's one of the biggest things is when you make a mistake and you know that you actually made that mistake. You owed up to it in your own way and then you have to just go again, you know, and that's why I said I think that was that moment was a big personal growth moment for you that led you and projected you to where you are, you know, today. And I ask you, you know, because of that and what you've been through, you mentioned you're an introvert. You keep the circle small and assuming like how do you, especially now, now that you have so many people trying, trying to like get your attention and get brigada. Who you let in and who and not like is it more of a you just feel it out or are you much more cautious about who you let into your circle like how's that how's that work it's hard Leave just feeling it out but also Taking my time, I guess like really Observing because you don't really figure out like what our persons intentions are just from like a Single meeting or event together or a single project together and stuff like that, which is why I Just I just really think that One way or another you would discover things about people That would show you whether or not they align with your values or not. Yeah Like even if even if let's say you had no intentions of Finding out that this person is actually like this like that. Just just this way that you're gonna know You're gonna know and God will show you that Yeah, he's this kind of person. She's this kind of person. So For me as someone who's very Much not unless it's with people I'm really comfortable with yeah, I'm just glad that I Find out these things even before like I Eventually decide to put my trust in certain people or not and then that's when I like I know it sounds very vague But you get the meaning. Yeah, they're before you spend too much time. Yeah before you invest up Too much of yourself or put in your trust and I think that's just really what I try to live by it's always being careful Regardless of like whoever is around you Being cautious enough to know that you shouldn't immediately Trust just anyone and it's it's not coming from a place of Malice or judgment. It's just really protecting yourself. Yeah, like they like to throw around these days, you know protecting your peace Basically, you know, what do what do people get most wrong about you or what do you think people most Assume wrong about Brigadard if I if I think about like what people Kind of misunderstand about me. It's honestly hard because I don't think I've put out enough of myself Out there for them to this podcast might be the most yes, this podcast might be the most so if there's one thing I could probably think of it's the true elephant What's the true elephant it's um yeah people and When we think my best I think this will get clipped a lot It's it's what people probably a shroom or think about me and the recent Mm-hmm things that's going on yeah, or someone admitted that This Courtney me. Yeah, so I think that's the most Um that that's the most I've ever put out about my personal life in the past years because even if you like see my my family my parents my sister You just know that she's my mom. You just know that she's my dad. You just know that she's my sister. There's nothing more than that. People probably don't have that much of an idea of the kind of family I have or the kind of life I live outside work. So I think it's mostly that. I just think it comes from like how, of course, obviously, the stigma or society works, but it's very understandable that they can like assume certain things. Yeah. I think it doesn't mean that they can also jump into conclusions. Like they can have their reservations, they can have like their thoughts about it, but it's also not enough reason for them to like say things that are out of line about either of you. Either of us. Yeah, either of you. I think it's a good way to put it. It's your private life. It's a personal life. And when you are in the eyes of many, many people, it's really, really hard to protect that in your life. And so I think the best thing that people can do is just. What happened? What happened? That wasn't here, wasn't here. I know yours fell, but then I tried to catch yours and I knocked them off. Wait, so yeah, I think one of the best things that everybody can do is just be respectful. Be respectful about people's personal lives, whatever they want to share. Feel free to share, but just try not to assume and make things up online. Because if anything, we were previously talking about how particular I am with the people I let in life. So as someone who's never had a boyfriend. Yeah, you've never had one. Yeah, but it's not to say that I have zero experience 'cause I was already talking to someone previously. It just didn't really work out, but it was very long-term. Yeah, I've heard about this. Yeah, so it's like. If anything. You've had no official. No official boyfriend. I think the more complicated ones teach you much more, because you try to figure out how to make it work, but at the same time, you find out so much about the kind of person they are and the kind of person you are when you eventually are in a relationship and the kind of dynamic that you think works for you best and how compatible you are. And so, but there are just so many things that you learn along the way, even though I wasn't really in a relationship, just yet, because it started with me, not just really not allowed to have a relationship because I was still studying, typical family things. Yeah. And then. But you still learn a lot. Even if you graduate, the fact that you started out in that kind of setup, which is very vague, so you don't really know where to position yourself after where I think it's just a lot of stuff. Yeah. So yeah, I think if anything, I would be very, very, very particular and careful of the people I will let in my life, more so now. My first boyfriend, right? So that's like, I just really want to put it out there that if it gets there, if it gets there, it just means that whoever he will be, has really, I guess, proven himself. Yeah. Proven himself to me, to my family, to the people around me, and is someone who I think is really deserving. Because I know I, I know why I really consider myself as someone who's just there, who's like, but I know my value. Yeah, yeah. I know the kind of future that I want to have for myself. And a partner that you would want, even everything included in that, that's great. Yeah, I think that's, I could say that similarly, even with my own private life. I show a little bit out there for certain things. I mean, you guys have to also understand, as even as talents, we are sort of evaluated on our social media presence and growing it and putting things out there. So sometimes, we put things out there because it's part of our evaluations and our growth as talents as well. But then there's obviously stuff that we don't want, completely out there. And I think that's completely fine. That's valid. That's for anybody who really handles social media. I've always said personally myself, if I was not in this line of business, I don't even think I'd be on social media much. Yeah. There's a difference between hiding something and just being more selective. Yeah, I think definitely. I want to ask you too, Brigadier, as we get closer to wrapping this episode up, since everything you've experienced all the way from your college days to joining the orgs, to going into CAS research, taking that risk, your first broadcast, your mistakes, your triumphs, all that stuff. What do you think matters more? Is it talent, timing, or mindset? Oh my god. Okay, okay, okay. Talent, timing, or mindset, or do you think it's really, I mean, in a sense, it's gonna be all three are involved. But to you, from what you've experienced personally, what do you think matters more to those three? I think all three have to be there, but if I had to choose one, it's really mindset. I know people would probably say, yeah, but mindset can only do so much, but mindset will help you figure out and mindset will just really be that thing that'll push you to actually work on what else needs to be worked on, because if it's just talent, it's hard to just rely on your talent when you don't have a solid mindset. And if your mindset's great, then even with a slight lack of talent, you'll know that it's something you could just eventually work on, or this is what you have to work on, and you won't get held back by the fact that you know you were not as talented just yet, because your mindset's gonna help you just understand that it just needs a bit more work, or that you just need a bit more time, and you won't take it the wrong way, you'll just see it as a motivation to work harder. Timing, timing tool, honestly, is very important, but compared to before, like I think before, before was really timing and connections, like everything was really timing and connections heavy. - Yeah. - But now. - It's a little different, right? - I guess, no, I think it's the way it still is, but it's a bit different in a sense that with the right mindset, you'll know where to put your efforts in, because there's just so much to explore. - These days, yeah. - This is mostly in the context of my experience. - Yeah, that's how I'm actually, yeah, your experience. - But mindset will help you way, and I guess evaluate all the options that are out there right now, because compared to before, really there's so much more nowadays, it's much, I guess, the competition is much tighter, but there are more avenues and opportunities compared to before. So like, it's just hard to get far if you have a very, I think if you have a very weak mindset. - Yeah, mindset's everything. - Mindsets, everything for me. - I think that I agree with that. I do believe timing can play a role in certain avenues. It definitely did for me talent as well, but yeah, with a mindset, that's why usually mental health is such a focus for a lot of people. Are you happy right now? Do you feel you're happy with your life currently? - Yeah, I agree. - Does that affects your mindset? - Yes, if you asked me a year ago, I'd probably say not really, but now I say yes, and I'm learning to focus on myself more. So I could just really keep the good things, the good traits, that good mindset, and also eventually become a better version of myself. - I like that. What would you tell someone who's, where you were before CASR search? So think of yourself back then, you were in college. You're about to take that risk, right? You're thinking that risk. What would you tell someone in your place right now? Because there's also a lot of people that we can think about that are potentially about. to go through talent academy. Or let's say it's something in talent academy and there's just something else. They're about to take a risk in their life for their thinking about it. What would you tell those people? - Honestly, I really want to say, like, yeah, I support you and I really want to tell you to not give up and just keep going, but also be, 'cause my time was different. It was during the pandemic. So I definitely had more time, more room to just go for these kinds of risks, but considering how tight the competition is nowadays, I just really want to make sure that even if you do take that risk, you're pretty much secured yourself that whatever happens, you'd still have, like, let's say your academics, your career outside. But you shouldn't let that hold you back because if anything, esports now and the kind of people that they're looking for are actually people with a lot more experience outside, rather than just within esports. So I hope you take advantage of that. You use it as a tool for you to put yourself out there because the competition is tight. I've been saying this for like how many times but your true talent, a really good mindset and a really good potential will be seen and will definitely have its place here in the esports industry. Well, that was for the people out there that were in your position. If you look back and to yourself before you join CasterSearch and everything you experienced up to this point, what would you tell her now? Me before talent search was just someone lost, was just someone very unsure and afraid. So what I'd probably tell her for you is that, I guess everything that's meant for you will just really find its way to you. So trust your timing, trust that everything will work eventually, but you should also have to put in the work and take or make an effort to discover more of yourself and figure things out just like what I did. If you think that something aligns with you, then you could take a bit more time trying to explore that. And if you feel like there's something that's really close to your heart or that you really enjoy, then it wouldn't hurt to consider what options are out there that are related to that. Because at least for me, during that time, I just didn't want to have any regrets and that's something I also want other people to be reminded of. That at the very least, if it doesn't work, then at least you know that you've tried because you knew at the time that this is what your heart or what you wanted for yourself as a person. That's your message, cheers. That's my message to you. That's my point. Very sweet message is I hope that's able to help someone out there, even her message to future hopefuls and the talent academy going on right now or whatever you're looking to do in your life. Brigitte has obviously taken a lot of risk in her life and I think a lot of people, like I always say, is they look at where you are currently, where a lot of people look at Brigitte and say she's successful and they don't realize the whole journey that she's had up to this point. And so don't compare yourself right now to where Brigitte currently is and it's been one hell of a roller coaster ride. And before we end here, Brigitte, I want to go ahead and ask something that I ask all my guests on the podcast. I do want to ask you, let's say everything you've done now, everything you're going to do in the future. By the end of it all, Brigitte, what do you want to be known for? I think I also had a similar question before in a previous article. And I would just want to echo what I said there, but it's just really, I want to be remembered as someone very, who's very light-hearted and who's someone who's just part of the, broadcast and in any way, and in any way that I can, hopefully, has contributed to making someone happy and enjoy watching the broadcast for who knows how long I'll be part of this sleep. Because I don't know, I find questions like this so hard because it just goes back to the entire thought of me not wanting to be in the spotlight as much. And I just want to keep things very simple because admittedly, I came into this as a fan of the game, as someone who enjoyed playing the game. And now I've started to really love the league for what it is, for the stories it has and for the players that it eventually built up. And the success that we've seen throughout the years, so now it's just really me wanting to focus on how I'm able to contribute to that and making the people happy. Because I never want to forget that it's also about making the people happy and allowing them to appreciate the league more through the stories that we build. So it's very simple, right? That's just a part. That's okay. You know, there's no wrong answer to that because that's completely what you want to be known for. And it doesn't have to be your entire life, or be a segment of your life, it's just whatever you come up with that. And so yeah, I love that. Thank you. Thank you, Brigida. Before we end here, any last things you want to mention, any projects you want to shout out or social media where everybody can go ahead and find more about Brigida? So you could check out my Instagram, TikTok. They're @biridgiwdbr, it's BridgetNR. And my Facebook pages, of course, Brigida. I am trying to be a bit more active for my community, either by more TikTok livestreams or by occasionally updating through my broadcast channel on Instagram. If you want to check that out too, please do join and be part of the Brigid Chat. Brigid Chat. I call it Brigid Chat. Brigid Chat, okay. It's very cute. So even just yesterday, I sent an update there that I got a haircut. So it's stuff like that. The small stuff like that I'm trying to really work on just so I could be able to show my appreciation for you guys a bit more than usual. So yeah, BrigidNR or Brigida, those are my social. Okay, thank you so much, Brigida. I hope we covered some interesting things for our audience out there, especially for everybody that's been following Brigida. I think there's a lot here that people could learn about you, your story, your journey, and be inspired by that because, you know, that's why I asked you earlier, does it even feel real sometimes? And I think, you know, even if you look back at yourself and you saw yourself in college before you joined Casta Search, I don't think you would have ever thought you'd go on this kind of journey. So again, Brigida, thank you. It's been a wonderful episode, a lot to learn here. And I wish you the best of luck. I'm gonna see you quite a bit. So, you know, like I'll see you a part of that journey of yours and I wish you well. Thanks so much for being a part of the FM podcast. Guys, that's gonna wrap it up over here for Brigida. Check out all our socials, that's why you guys can, thank you so much for tuning in to the FM podcast. Every Wednesday, there's a new episode and it was a wonderful time to hear Brigida's story and how she feels about the growth that she's had and where she currently is in today's world and who knows where she's gonna go from here. Definitely know her butt up. So check it out. Thank you again, please rate the show, give a thumbs up, comment down below and we'll see you guys in the next episode, next Wednesday. Bye bye. - Bye bye. - Bye bye. - Bye bye.