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[MUSIC] Welcome back to the TMZ podcast. Today we have a very special guest, Claudia. Welcome to the podcast. >> Yeah. >> We are so excited to have you. Obviously, if you don't know who Claudia is, she is an absolute legend model, as you can tell if you're watching the YouTube channel. >> I condo. >> Literally an icon. We are so happy to have her in studio today. So, Claudia, give us a little bit of a rundown on who are you? Who is Claudia? Tell us about your legacy. >> Well, my name is Claudia Shariaz. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm from New York. I'm a proud trans-woman in the trans-experience. >> Yeah. >> And I also have an AK, Claudia extravaganza for anyone who you guys, who know the ballroom scene. If you ever watched Pose or you've ever watched Paris's Burning, I'm from the legendary house of extravaganza. My mother was Carmen and my father was Hector extravaganza. I started at the house at 14 years old in New York City. I was a door girl working at clubs like Limelights and Tunnel and USA, with amazing people like Stephen Lewis and Peter Gation. So, it was like a real limelight era for the New York City Club scene. And I'm still here. I'm still standing. >> Legend. >> We're going to get into a lot of stuff today, so you guys stay tuned. >> So, let's get into it. Obviously, have quite the track record. Tell us a little bit about, I mean, you are known as like, famously one of the first trims women on America's Next Top Model. >> Well, that's a controversy in itself. >> Oh, tell me more. >> Yes, I was the first trans woman on a little show called America's Next Top Model. >> You heard of it. >> In 2006, I was fortunate enough to compete against hundreds of thousands of women to get a spot on cycle six of America's Next Top Model. Everyone knows the winner, Danny, our runner-up, Jony. Unfortunately, I didn't get to make it on the show because I was disqualified for being trans, right? >> Right. >> This was during a time in our nation that was really important to me. It was important to me because we were dealing with the deaths of Matthew Shepherd and Gwen Araho. And for those of you who don't know, these were pivotal moments in LGBTQ history. Before hate crimes were in legislation. It rocked the nation to have these deaths take place on our soil. And when Gwen Araho died, she was a young trans woman in Northern California who was murdered. And she was murdered only because she was trans. And as a young trans woman feeling gifted and privileged to navigate into spaces like through my efforts in modeling, it really pushed me to want to be an activist and advocate, right? >> Totally. >> For activism and advocacy was even a thing, right? >> Right. >> It was way no one knew about what it was to be an influencer, right? Because we didn't have my space. We didn't have Facebook. We didn't have Instagram. So for people like myself to take that risk and choosing to be visible. And to really run with it in spaces that weren't quite ready for it. It was a journey. I am thankful to be a trailblazer. My time on top model was cut short. But it was great. I, you know, after they disqualified me for being trans, I was told that I had, which is really going to be difficult for you to comprehend this the same way it was for me. >> For sure. I was told that I was disqualified because I had an unfair advantage, which didn't make any sense to me at the time because I- >> Yeah. >> Tell me a little bit about that. What makes you think that in your eyes that they were thinking that you would have an unfair advantage? >> I don't know. I don't know. >> Other than being absolutely just weren't ready for me. But they were watching, right? Because immediately after being disqualified, I was brought back to Dew Tire Banks', you know, her talk show, the Tire Banks talk show at CBS Studios, to compete in America's next top transsexual model, which I won. >> I don't know what to do. >> I'll be a teen. >> Obviously the crown is there. >> Yeah. >> And that was like, it was incredible. It was like an incredible like triumph for me. >> For sure. >> But I was still kind of understanding what advocacy was for me at that time. In unprecedented waters without really understanding why people like me, especially in the TGI community, need to be visible and need to have platforms before you guys, you know, everyone's in front, right? >> Exactly. >> America's next top transsexual model, winning that, I got a cover with Instinct Magazine, shout out to Instinct Magazine. And went on to do another show called the Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency. I know Janice Dickinson is really controversial from some of you, but I thank her for taking the risk. In supporting trans women, you know, specifically me, giving me a shot. >> For sure. >> Unfortunately, I was disqualifying on that show again. And I was like, understanding that, although God blessed me with all of this beauty and talent. >> Clearly, house favorites. >> Well, I don't know. I knew at a young age that I was different and there would be a certain way in the cross that I was going to have to bear. And I am a woman who marches to the beat of my own drum and I never looked back. I still don't look back. And I'm really thankful for the experiences of being on, you know, although a lot of people think that ISIS was the first trans woman on top model, right? You can do any Google search and see that I predate her. And that's, let me be very clear. >> Mm-hm. >> That's not to take away from any credit of ISIS, right? Because I work in the non-profit sector. >> Yeah. >> And I understand the importance of having visible black Afro-Latina trans women because they are the most disparaged in our community. And what she did was incredible. And I champion her. But I do think I deserve my flowers. A very young, special woman by the name of Miriam Extravaganza was my sister. She was the first woman to be on a reality television when we were all discovering what reality television was, right? >> Right. >> Before anyone had a reality show. >> So she was the first trans woman to be on a show called Something About Miriam. >> Mm-hm. >> And it was developed in the UK. >> Right. >> But I was the first trans woman to be on a reality television on US Soil. So let's give a little. >> A little. >> Got to give credit where credit is due. >> We have credit. >> Oh, oh, got to give credit. Oh, oh my god stop. Are we actually getting a walk right now? >> Yes. Oh my gosh. Just to remind the girl. >> I'm now speechless podcast over. I can't talk anymore. Just to give everyone a little reminder of why we're here today. Thank you so much for opening up and sharing about that. I do want to talk about it a little bit more because I mean, obviously, you're such a role model to a lot of people. And I feel like nowadays hearing not would be so shocking. I think a lot of people don't know that as well. So what is your kind of perspective on how the community, you know, your community is treated now? >> It's tough. I am a woman who survived through decades. And I've persevered through generations. And I've learned so much through my algeism, what they were going through, surviving through the AIDS crisis and seeing what LGBTQ rights is today. So when I look at my journey, it's difficult because while we have made so many advancements, we still have a lot of work to do, right? And that's why we need allies and advocates. You know, I'm very fortunate to have an incredible support system. We'll talk more about Willie McNamara and the show that brought me here with you today. For sure. But, you know, to really answer your question. It's sad. It's sad because I deserve the same right to be authentically myself the same way you do. Totally. And I deserve to have access to healthcare. I deserve to have access to medical, dental, to housing, to have overall growth and development, to have love in my relationships, to have community, to have family and support. I wouldn't be the woman that I am today without the support that I've had. Definitely. I think everyone who supported me through my journey and continues to support me. I have an amazing team. Thank you. Shout out to Derek Orbert and that group is mag. Oh, I love that. Thank you for opening up and sharing about that. I think, yeah, especially to like top model, got a lot of you have to understand like also at the time hate crimes were not in legislation. Yeah. So people could, you know, people could actually murder a woman like myself and claim what they were calling tranny panic. Now we've grown. We don't use the word tranny anymore. We try not to. But it is part of the culture race. But to take away someone's life because of their gender, yeah, because of your inability to understand that is why we fought so hard to have hate crimes in legislation today. So we need to remember the death of Gwenaraho and Matthew Shepherd. Just like we need to remember the legacy of Sylvia Rivera and Marsha P. Johnson when we celebrate Pride season. Totally. It's crazy to me that today a lot of the new generation doesn't even understand that the first brick thrown in stone wall was, I mean, there is debatable controversy about who threw the first break. Right. Right. But Sylvia Rivera and Marsha P. Johnson were trailblazers and leaders in LGBTQ rights and activism. And we need to highlight those trailblazers and role models so that we can stay connected with the generation who is carrying the torch of so many people. Totally. Before that. Yeah. For sure. I think you, but I, I, I, I, I'm like, you know, I'm glad to be a part of that. Yes. Oh my God that I'm here with you. Yes. Tells me that, you know, there is space for me in this world and people do appreciate stories like mine and my dream. So high five for the. Woo. We love it. We love the advocacy. Oh my God. I cannot tell that word. Advocacy. Geez. That was horrible. But yes, totally. I even know what advocate it was. It took me years. I think like I was like, I think it was like 35. And I was working with W. Hotels, turned it up for change and we were like promoting marriage equality. Gotcha. And we were going to all over the states to W. Hotels and throwing balls and LGBTQ scene knows what a ball is. Yeah. This is where the gay community goes to showcase their talent. Mm-hmm. Whether you're the most beautiful. Whether you're the best dress, whether you can dance, whether you can do runway. Whether you like, it's a it's a place where we get to celebrate our uniqueness, our diversity. Mm-hmm. And the out of the box culture. If you've never been to a ball girlfriend, I have to work out. We're going. And we need to go because that goes. It goes 10. 10. 10's across the board. I think I have none of those talents, but I will be there to support. Oh, are you kidding me? I can turn you into something I brought. Please. Oh my God. You can be fem queen. Well, you can't be a fem queen because fem queens are reserved for girls like me. Yes, yes. But you can be woman sex-dying because you're very sex-y. Oh. I mean, you must be. So. I'm into that. If you've heard her 10's, thank you for that. Let's do it. Okay, I'll be at the next ball. Boots on the ground. Okay. The whole thing. Yeah. Get into it, darling. I'm starving. Oh my gosh, Claudia, you're the best. I do want to talk a little bit what you said, like with the next generation. And I feel like with reality shows, have taken such a different shift than, like, you know, when you were in like that space back then. And obviously now you've got, you know, your own TV credits. Reality shows are always going to be reality shows for sure. They're always going to be exploitive. They're always going to look for ratings. Definitely. And it's very tricky when you're trying to create spaces for the TGI community. It really doesn't have access to those spaces. We're still like, we've broken the glass ceiling. Yes. We're like, we're in there. Things to people like Ryan Murphy, who did pose. Totally. I was actually privileged to work on pose as a judge. Stop. Shout out to Ryan Murphy. Bye. I'm a Miami Ryan. I'm ready to work. I'm like, me too. Yeah. I'm like, Ryan Murphy, if you're watching, please. But I mean, we've also had so many amazing, you know, shows that are still in developments. I know Tom Ford has an incredible film coming out. One of my favorites. I'm a big anorized fan. I'm like, a revamped paragraph. And cry to heaven is now being adapted in a film screenplay. Starring Hunter Schaefer. Oh, my God. Yes. Yes. Oh my God. Adele's going to be in it. We've, yeah, it's going to be. It's an all-star stacked cast. We have a lot. And it's all about the Kastrati, right? During the 1800s, the Catholic Church was so, you know, they were families who were in Poverse were selling their young boys to the church to and being castrated so that they would be able to sing as sopranos in the choir. And this is an incredible story that I can't wait to see on like the big screen, because I feel like Kastrati, I started my journey in transitioning when I was 14 years old. OK. And I knew that's really tricky right now. That's how people that like I started my journey at 14 years old. That makes people react to start and way they're like, well, where was your family? And what was this? And do you got that a lot? What I get a lot is, gosh, you were so brave. You're so courageous to know that that's who you wanted to be so young. Do you say that positively? Or do you say that? I just take it as it is, because it's hard for people to understand, right? Like how does the child know who they instinctively are? I knew it at a very young age. Everyone around me knew it. And then I would get like, you know, the bullying. Why do you walk like that? Why do you talk like that? Why do you look like that? You sound like a girl. Right. And that put me in a place of understanding that I was not only different, but that there was something wrong with that. And when you come from a Latino background, it's especially difficult, because there's this such a misogyny coming from a Latino background, as well as in the black community. And what I'm seeing today, I'm so thankful. Shout out to Lisa Consini, who is Alex Consini's mother. Of course, we know Alex Consini, who I had the privilege of meeting at 11 years old on a show called Strut Modeling. No way. So it was the first transgender TV show. We were starting our agency. And I remember seeing Alex come through the door as an 11 year old girl who already knew who she was and was very authentically herself. But only the most confident person I've ever seen. The thing is, when you have a mother, like Lisa Consini, you understand and see their child and celebrates themselves, is we have to hold space for families who are educated, totally. And in my generation, a lot of the TGI individuals were thrown away from their family. I left home when I was 14 years old. I left home because of a very different experience. I have a great relationship with my family today. But it took time. For sure. It took time because they didn't know what they were dealing with. I was having anxiety attacks, suicidiality is so high with the TGI youth. I put my family through a lot. But today we're in a great space. And when you see what a child can be with support. of their family like Alex. - Makes a difference. - Who is, you know, the number one super model. - Yeah, funny, shout out to Alex. - Yeah. - You did that for all. - She's like, I may have been a part of trailblazing and putting the crocs in the ceiling. - Yes. - So when you get Alex, who broke that glass ceiling, bust lets give it like a little applause for Alex 'cause we love Alex. - Alex, we're so excited to see an American horror story. - Yes. - Oh my gosh. - It's gonna be fierce. - A rush. I feel like you also mentioned Hunter Schaefer too. I feel like these are a lot of like-- - Hunter Schaefer is incredible. I have the privilege of working the golden gloves. - As a server, as a way, Tris, you know, helping the people get their food and stuff like that. - Serving food in a job is a job in this economy. Like, you gotta have like five different households. I need gas to get some malibu. - Yeah, exactly. Do you have like, who do you think is like the best kind of trailblazers now for like the younger generation? 'Cause obviously you mentioned Alex, Hunter Schaefer. - Well, I mean, we have incredible leaders today. We have people like LeVern Cox, who is so educated, so informed and helping push the narrative and the needle forward so that our nation is educated and understands what good policy and legislation can do. Or the progress of LGBTQ rights specifically trans, right? And she's so visible. - Something I did actually really wanna ask you on the topic of like new generation, so guess right now is doing a lot of like AI modeling. I would love to get your opinion on this. What are your thoughts? - Nope, nope. - Okay, new AI modeling. - Okay. - We need real people with real bodies representing real people. - Yes, this is a job. We cannot be doing this AI thing. It sets a really bad precedent for what our younger generation is considering beautiful. I come from a generation. I know, yes, I've had some work done, but I come from a generation where I took my hormones and I come in '90s grow. We took our hormones. We prayed to God to be pretty and some of us were lucky, some of us weren't. I don't even know how I'm still standing here today, the woman that you see before me, but I'm really honored to be here. And I'm really excited to talk about the show. - Yes, please, let's get into that. - The show is what brought us here. So Willie McNamara, a lot of you guys don't remember who Willie McNamara is, but you should. It was an iconic 80s heartthrob. Eyes look up the picture. - Yeah, stunning. - I specifically remember a hand for his impact, for his portrayal of an openly gay character on Primetime Television in a movie called "Dueing Time on Maple Drive". It was Jim Carrey's first breakout role. And it was all about a family dealing with dynamics from alcoholism to abuse, to sexuality and being in a conservative background. And Billy's portrayal of this character, his love interest was Lori Loughlin. - I can't believe that. - Really was so important for my community, to see on television because we had great films like, I think you guys might remember a series called "Amestead Moppens Tales of the City" with Olympia Ducakis and Lori Lennie. It was incredible deputation of what it was like to be a part of the LGBTQ community during the 60s and 70s in San Francisco. And seeing Billy undoing "Dueing Time on Maple Drive" was just like, he was like my first crush. So when my-- - I know you're working, I love. - My husband was his best friend. - Yeah. - So my husband was like, listen, I'm gonna have one of my friends coming over for dinner. And I'm like, okay, cool, he's like, he's an actor, like, I'll be cool about it. I'm like, I'm not a deal with everything he's talking about. - Yeah. - Is it what are we gonna make for dinner? - I'll be in the office Billy, right? And I immediately recognize Billy from, you know, dream a little dream, stealing home, copycats, right? But I immediately recognize him for "Dueing Time on Maple Drive" because he was like my first crush. - Totally. - And I told my husband that he was like so jealous. He was like, oh, we're never having him over again. - Yeah. - I thought he was on the block list. He's gone. - Well, unfortunately, my husband passed away. You know, it's very sad and it affects me still to this day. - Of course. - But it's amazing what my relationship with him has done for me as a person and like evolving, understanding grief and unconditional love. - For sure. - And support system because my husband had an incredible light and support system. And Billy was a part of that. He recognized something in me, you know, immediately. - Totally. - And was like, I'm working on a shower and I need to have you in it. - Oh my God. - He understood, he understood the importance of having trans visibility. He's an incredible animal rights activist and his efforts to saving the animals through the wild fires. And it's not just through the wild, but this is just who he is as a person. - Totally. - Why we have an all-stocked cast. We've got Billy Baldwin. We've got Tom Seismor. We've got yours truly, my buddy Assharia is in her breakout role. And we've got so many more people that came out to support Billy because he is such a good person. And he wrote this whole script on his own. - Give us the title. - The show is called The Trouble with Billy. And it's all about The Trouble with Billy because while he's an incredible 80s heart throb who's recognized all over the world, Billy's quirky, Zany, it's kind of like a curb your enthusiasm meets Melrose, please. - Of course. - It's wacky, it's Zany, it's funny. It has space for me. I would never think I would be on a show amongst the level of these A-list actors. And yesterday was another incredible day. We got to shoot the cover of Guru's Magazine. - Love. - Yeah, Jared, we've all looked for a long haul. - We've got together to see it, honey. The cover's gonna be amazing. - Oh my gosh, she made it. - We got Allison Eastwood, Billy Baldwin, Ranzel Baton Cart, Willie Mackna-Mara, and yours, Truly, All in Denim's styled by Derek Warburton for Guru's Magazine, it is going to be Beerus. Y'all, he's got a copy and support your girl. - Really getting eight copies, making a whole collage on my wall. - Oh, man. - Oh. - Good board is just a hobby. - I am a hobby come back and sign an autograph for you. And maybe I can bring Billy. Yeah, maybe I can bring both Billy. - I think I would just collapse on it. - Let me tell you, Billy Baldwin is still a stud and so is Ranzel, do not sleep. Y'all know Ranzel from school ties with Brandon Frazier and Matt Dillon and Ben Affleck. Ranzel is such an amazing support system for us. You know, he put a lot of hours into making sure that this series is where it is today. So shout out to Ranzel and Stephanie for all of your efforts in making this show become the success that it is today and you too Derek, thank you. - Obsessed. Well, thank you so much for playing that giving us a little - Thank you so much for coming on. - And when you're ready, it's all. - Paul Darling, you just let me know because you can do that. - Oh my God. I'm obsessed. I'm gonna need a lot of practice. - Come on, come on, come on. - Oh, stand up for me. - Okay, okay. - Are you ready? - Okay, now I'm gonna use you to like, and give me the hair like this and put your face like that. - Yeah. And like just let it go. - I gotta go my nose down. - Yeah. And then a hair flip. - Literally, I can do it non-extual. That was just amazing. - We'll catch you at the next ball. Thank you. - Catch me at the next ball. - Thank you so much for having me. - Thank you for coming on. Being raw, you're the best. - Keep faces open. - Oh, right. - Which trans women like my style. - It's gonna be super easy. - It's gonna be super easy.