#675 - Professor Jiang

Today's guest is a teacher, geopolitics expert and YouTuber, known for his popular channel predictive history, where he breaks down why global events happen and what could come next. We covered a lot of ground here, a war in the Middle East, China vs America, secret societies. I had a fascinating chat with today's guest, Professor Zhang. ♪ If I would find a song, I would sing a song ♪ Professor Zhang? - Hey Thio. - Is that correct? - That's correct, yeah. - Professor Zhang, thank you so much for coming by today. - Well, thanks so much for inviting me. - Yeah, I'm very happy to have you. Is this your first time in Los Angeles? - It's my first time in Los Angeles. - Yeah. - And how's the experience been so far? - It's been surreal. So, your producers have been wonderful. They put me in this fantastic hotel and I went for a walk around the neighborhood, West Hollywood, so I went down San Monica Boulevard. - Oh yeah. - It's just gorgeous. The streets are so illuminated and the buildings are so beautiful. But then, you know, as I'm walking, there's in the middle of the sidewalk, a pile of dog shit. - Yeah. - So I walk past it and it takes me a couple of minutes to realize that didn't come from a dog actually. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's been surreal. - Yeah, we got a lot of tall dogs in this area. That's just a little decoration, brother. That's how it goes here. And if you're lucky to have a needle in it in the middle. - It's freedom, man. - Yeah, it is freedom, man. Professor Zhang, thank you so much for just making the trip for coming and joining us. I know you're from your YouTube channel, "Predictive History". Can you tell us a little bit about your channel for people that don't know about it? - Yeah, so I'm a high school teacher and what I try to do is try to explain your politics in a way that students can appreciate. And what I try to do is, when my analysis, I try to make predictions. And that's a really good way to engage students as well as to test my own worldview, my own hypothesis. And so two years ago, while I was studying this class, I made three predictions. The first is that Trump would win in 2024 and that he would launch this war against Iran and that he would lose his war. And I blow up online because it turns out that all three predictions should not be accurate. Well, the first two for sure, and that's how you came on my radar with those two predictions, that's how I learned about you at first. And before we move on with it, do you teach at high school? - That's right, I teach at high school level. What's something that's kind of unique about a school in China, maybe that we wouldn't know? Well, there are no guns. - Oh, okay. - Yeah. Good. - You win. - Sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't know. So I've been China and we're just brainwashed all the time about American schools. American culture. - I mean, at least your brainwash not to have guns in school. That's some of the positive brainwashing at least. Yeah, you came on my radar whenever I saw the videos about your predicting your Trump win and predicting the war in Iran. I noticed that you use something called game theory. - Yes. - Can you explain game theory just so people know? Yeah, so the idea of game theory is that if you want to analyze someone's behavior, you have to look at three things. First of all, you have to look at the structure of the game. How do you win the game? What are rules? What are the incentives? And once you figure that out, then you can figure out his or her optimal behavior in this game. So in terms of geopolitics, just imagine the United States, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia as distinct players in the game, which they're trying to maximize the outcome against each other and they will use their own unique strategies in order to achieve so. And that's how I'm able to make some amazing predictions. - Yeah, I know the game theory. I remember first hearing about it in that film, Beautiful Mind. - Oh, yes, yes. - What was the guy's name, Nick? - John Nash. - John Nash. - Yeah, he uses that whenever he's examining things or trying to figure things out, he uses that in there. - That's what I mean. - New and crazy, too. - Yeah, anyway, crazy. Best of luck. - Right, thank you. - Best of luck, professor. Yeah, let's talk about the war in Iran. Let's start there because that's fresh. That's what everybody's mind right now. Do you think it could be our new Vietnam? Or how are you viewing the war in Iran right now? - Yeah, the best case scenario is that becomes America's Vietnam. But I think the problem is-- - That's best case scenario. - That's best case scenario. - Yeah, yeah. But I think the problem is that this war is expanding very rapidly. So before, a few months ago, it was limited to a war between Israel, United States, and Iran. And now it's brought in Saudi Arabia against the Houthis, which is in Yemen. There's a credible threat that the war in Ukraine might merge with the war in Iran, because what's happened a couple weeks ago is that a Iranian cargo ship that was transporting supplies from Russia to Iran through the Caspian Sea was hit by a Ukrainian drone. And since then, the Ukrainians have apologized. But the Korean game theory, right now, the Ukrainians aren't doing so well in Ukraine. And right now, Russia is finding a war of attrition, and because Russia is such a much bigger power than Ukraine. In the long term, Ukraine will ultimately lose this war. So to change to that dynamic, what Zelensky wants to do is lure America into the war. And the best way he can do that is combine the two fronts. So if Zelensky shows that Russia can supply Iran for the Caspian Sea, then America needs to stop this trade. And Ukraine can help America by sending drones to attack Iranian shipping. So there's a real threat that these two fronts merge, in which case, all bets are off. In which case, it's World War III. You can also see the possibility of systems collapse, civilization collapse as well. All of that from that. From that. The reason why is that area, Ukraine, the Middle East, it's really the nexus or the heart of the global economy, because that's where the world ends. But if you can, the Middle East are pretty far from each other. They can even show me on this globe, actually, how far away are from each other? Right. So this is really interesting. So this is Iran. And you can move that. Okay, sure. Yeah. So what I want to show you is how far these fronts are. Okay? Okay. So this war in Ukraine has been going on since 2022, right? It's been four years. And most of the funding is going on in Eastern Ukraine, right? Over here. And fortunately, the war has been limited to just front. Now, as of late February, Iran, this war in Iran has broken out. And what's been happening is that at first, the main conflict was over the short of her moves, which is right here. But the problem is the entire Middle East depends on the short of her moves for trade. So Saudi Arabia, baran, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, what they do is they take their oil and then they transport it all the way through the short of Malakah to East Asia and to India and Pakistan. So really, the oil from the Middle East feeds the economies of Asia. You're going to place like Japan. It depends on three-quarters of its oil from over here. Wow. In China, it depends on 40% India. It's like 50 to 60%. And we turn, these places will send food over back to the Middle East as well as water because this place is a desert. They don't have their own food and water. But now, what people don't appreciate is that there are lots of byproducts of oil production. And one of these byproducts is fertilizer for food. And this fertilizer also transits food the short of her moves to Africa. And this fertilizer feeds their population. So imagine what happens if this entire air shuts down, right? You can have famine in Africa. You can have economic collapse in East Asia, which would then cause a domino effect where Africa breaks down. You have civil war revolution in Africa. Then what happens? These migrants shift over to Europe. And we've already seen that last week when you have this 50,000 essentially in Morocco in Spain. That's right. A place called CO2 Spain. Right. And that's a small part of Spain that's actually connected to Morocco. That's right. That's right. We can see how volatile the situation is. Wow. So it's really a domino effect. Right. Now, Ukraine is very important because Ukraine and Russia together supplies the world with one-third of its carbohydrates. So out Ukraine, say that again, Ukraine and Russia together supply the world with a third of their carbohydrates. So yeah, so what are you saying? So what I'm saying is a third of the world's carbohydrates comes from Ukraine and Russia together. Wow. Is that true? Yeah. So Ukraine is going to have a bread bag. - That's good of Europe. - Wow. - The claim is not accurate if it means that one-third of all carbohydrates eaten or produced globally come from Russia and Ukraine. And more accurate version is Russia and Ukraine have supplied roughly 12% of internationally traded food calories in a very large share of specific green export markets, about 28 to 30% of globally traded wheat. So there is a huge amount of food calories that comes out of there. - That's right. - It's true. - That's right, yeah. Okay, so thanks so much for fact-tracking me. But yeah, but you can appreciate how the world depends on food, fertilizer, and energy from this area. And so the great threat is that because Russia can supply Iran for the Caspian Sea, the war extends to the Northern Caucasus which brings in Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan. And then if that would happen, you can see this entire area is now engulfed in war. Another really critical thing that's been happening these past few weeks is that more and more nations are being brought into this war. - So which were into the one in the Middle East? - In the Middle East. And the reason why is that for Iran to pressure in the United States, what Iran can do is threaten the energy infrastructure of American allies in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Iran, what Iran can do is hold the energy infrastructure of the Middle East hostage. Imagine Saudi Arabia as just this huge oil field. - Okay. - Right, and it's great in a time of peace because you can take this huge oil field and sell it to Japan, China, South Korea, India. But the problem is that a huge oil field means it's a lake of gasoline. So what I have to do is take a match, light it on fire, and then everything goes up. And if I can do that with its drone and ballistic missile capabilities. And so Iran is always threatening this. The other issue is that Iran has proxies, meaning allies in the Middle East. There are three major allies. The first are a people called the Houthis. Who are these religious, fanatic people who live in mountains? And they occupy a very strategic area called the Bell-El-Mandab Strait. - Bell-El-Mandab Strait? - Yes. So here's a show of hummus, yes? - Yes. - This is the Bell-El-Mandab Strait. And as you can see, these are the two most critical maritime choke points in the Middle East. - Wow. - And the problem is that the Houthis are live in mountains. So it's almost impossible to dislodge them. And because so much of maritime shipping requires insurance, any threat of destruction means that the insurance companies don't want to insure these ships. And that puts a halt on global trade. So the real fear is that Saudi Arabia will lodge a granvation to dislodge the Houthis and control this choke point, okay? So you can imagine a massive alliance being formed to go against the Houthis. Another major proxy is called Hesbalah, which is in Lebanon. And these past few weeks, Israel has been trying to attack Hesbalah. And there's a real threat that this era of Lebanon breaks out into total war. And right now what Israel is trying to do is assemble an alliance to destroy Hesbalah. And this alliance includes Israel, but also includes Syria. And also includes the Lebanese army. And Hesbalah is a proxy of Iran. So Iran, if it sees Hesbalah under threat, then Iran would extend the war in order to help out Hesbalah. But why would the Lebanese army support Israel if there hasn't been issues between Israel and Lebanon recently? Right, so like hasn't there been attacks in Lebanon from Israel? Right, so Israel is attacking Lebanon because it sees Hesbalah as a threat because Hesbalah can launch rocket attacks against Israel. And Lebanon can threaten, sorry, Hesbalah can threaten the Suez Canal. 'Cause Israel has been attacking Lebanon, right? That's right. Okay, great, that's right. So, Hesbalah is not part of the Lebanese government. Got it. And so imagine there are different satirian groups in Lebanon and they share power together. And one of these groups is Hesbalah. And Hesbalah is aligned with Iran and they are committed to protecting themselves from Israel. And Israel sees them as a bunch of terrorists that need to be removed. And so Hesbalah, the problem with Hesbalah is that it's actually popular in Lebanon among the Lebanese people because unlike the Lebanese government, they're not corrupt and they provide good services to the people understood. So yes, sometimes we hear about these groups. So you hear about Hamas, you hear about Hesbalah. But the people there in some of these countries actually prefer some of these groups or actually do support some of these groups because they're kind of an outlier government that's more supportive to the people than the actual government. That's right. So they're popular because they are able to provide basic community services to the local population. And unfortunately, these governments in the Middle East, a lot of them have put to be very corrupt and a lot of their leaders seem to be sympathetic towards Israeli interests. And people suspect that they've been blackmailed by Mossad because Mossad's very good at that. Yeah. What kind of blackmail could Mossad be doing? Do you feel like in these spaces? You talk about blackmail and you hear about blackmail a lot. You hear about Mossad. You hear about blackmail in America a lot. Like with the Epstein files in different places holding things potentially over like American politicians heads. So I think that rather than you sort of blackmail, I think we can use the word influence. How are they able to have so much influence in the area? Well, I mean, the easiest way is to become friends with these people, right? So let's just say your leader of Lebanon. Well, you have children. Don't you want your children to go to the best schools? Don't you want your children to get good jobs, maybe working for like Goldman Sachs, maybe working for a university as a professor? Well, we can help you because we're all these friends in the United States. And we can arrange visas for your kids to go study at universities. We can ensure that they get good jobs, right? Right. I mean, it's not simple, right? It's not simple. Let's just be friends, right? And so if you're a leader of a place like Lebanon and the entire place is wife of Sikterian violence, there's not much you can do. The entire place is right with what? Sikterian violence. Sikterian violence. Sikterian violence. So it's what? Sikterian. Okay. Sikterian violence. S-C-C-T-A-R-I-A-N. And Sikterian violence is physical conflict and harm between different religious or political groups within a community or nation. That's, there's a lot of that in Lebanon. Yeah, because you have a lot of different, religious groups in Lebanon. Okay, understood. You have the Christians, you have the Muslims, and then they're also broken up in like different groups. And they're also like these tribal loyalties throughout the Middle East. So if you're a leader of Lebanon or Iraq, or any place in the Middle East, you're dealing with a very volatile political situation. And do you really wanna deal with these people or would you rather use your position to ensure that your children have a better future, right? To help out your relatives, help out your friends, and that's why they go into these political positions. So, and that's the, and that's the main way that the one started to exert influence over the Middle East because they can help these leaders send their money and the children to a safe place in Europe or the United States. And that is just being friendly. Yeah, that's human survival too. Exactly. Where you wanna survive, you wanna be well enough to take care of yourselves. That's right. So it's not always like a level of blackmail that's violence. It's sometimes it's a level of assistance. That's right. I'm just helping you out. It was helping each other out, right? I help out your children and you help me kill people who are doing nasty things like Espala, right? We both hate Espala because they're terrorists. So we're just like rubbing each other's back. Yeah. You mentioned the, the Strait of Hormuz a few minutes ago. Yes. Why is that place so important? Yeah. So that's complete. 'Cause you hear it all the time. Can you explain it kind of in basic terms and why it's so important? Right. Okay. Hormuz is the linchpin of the Middle East economy because like, if you just look at this globe, okay? There's certain countries that are within the Persian Gulf, right, Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, basically Dubai. Now, it's important because there's only one way for them to transport their oil. Okay, got it. Right. Now, there's only one passageway. It's like a one-way street, got it, right? So they're going to take their oil and then transport it to East Asia. And then what they get in return is water and food because it's a desert. They can't grow their own food. They don't have their own water. So that is crucial to your survival. If that were to be eliminated, like suddenly close off, then UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, all these places would be dead in the water. Recently Trump had spoken up, I think it was even just the other day where he said that Iran will be hit very hard. He's always like, we're going to hit him in the fucking head nuts or whatever. We're going to fucking hit him in the mittens they wear on their head. He's always doing so. But it's like, he said they're going to be hit very hard. If this trade of hormones doesn't open very soon, how is Iran like controlling that effectively right now for themselves, right? Yes. And how successful are they being with their management of the straight of hormones right now? Yes. Okay. So to answer this question, I have to explain a concept to you called the escalation ladder. Okay. Okay. So what is the escalation ladder? It's a very simple idea, which is in a fight, emotions create momentum. Okay. So for example, let's just say you and I, we have a fight. I tell a joke, you think it sucks, I get pissed off of you, so I punch you, right? So what do you punch me back? And I'm like, okay, then I take a knife and I stab you, maybe a knife, and then you stab me and I think like, gun, I shoot you. Then you shoot me. Then I take out a bazooka and I hit you. Okay. So you can see how it's a ladder and how emotions create momentum. But there's a logic to the escalation okay. So understanding escalation ladder now, I'll explain to you how the war in Iran has been escalating. Okay. And how it should continue escalating if the war continues. So this is an escalation ladder you're showing involving, involving Iran in the straight of hormones. Yes. So this is United States and this Iran, okay. Okay. So we start the war when the United States using something called a decapitation strategy, meaning that if, what do the United States believes that if I take out your leader, now your leader lists, and therefore you must surrender to me. So in the first day of February 28th, they killed the Al-Tolah Kaminay, the Supreme Leader of Iran. The Al-Tolah Kaminay, yeah. That's right. And they killed also a lot of senior leadership. And this is what we call a decapitation strike. And the assumption is that if you take out the leader, then Iran would break out into civil war and they'd surrender to you. And this is exactly what happened in Venezuela a few months back, right? So this is what we're calling decapitation strike. When they got Maduro. That's right. Yeah. And he was in jail with six and nine, which is crazy. Okay. Yes. But it didn't happen here. Okay. So that's a first strike. Okay. So they tried it in Iran. They tried to decapitation strategy. Yes. But it didn't break out in civil war. That's right. That's right. So now what Iran does is it strikes back by closing off the street of hummus, right? And but that's because they made a new Ayatolah who took over. Who was that? The son, the son, right? So they, so they, so they, so that's right. They replaced the Al-Tolah Kaminay with the Al-Tolah Kaminay. Okay. Yeah. And then what Iran did close up, the first thing they did was close up street of mousse. But they start to attack America's allies in the Middle East, including Qatar, Dubai, Iran, Kuwait, America did. No, Iran did. Okay. So take me back a step. Okay. All right. So the United States does a decapitation strike. Got it. And then Iran punches back how by putting pressure on America's allies, right? They attacked Israel. They attacked Dubai. They attacked Qatar. The reason why they did that was the theory that these places give a lot of money to the United States. They invest a lot in the U.S. economy. So therefore they have a lot of leverage over the United States. If they're being attacked, they would pressure Trump to end the war. Okay. And so once Iran did that, then that forces the United States to basically have a ceasefire. Because if the war continues, then what would happen is the entire world would lose at least 20 percent of the global oil supply. And this could possibly create economic collapse. So you're saying America had to take a break then and rethink about what's going on? Yeah. Because the first strategy didn't work. Got it. And the United States didn't have a second strategy. And the straight of hormones is closed at this point. They closed it. The short of who moves is at this point in the in the ladder. Okay. So for this entire process, there's been a lot on on and off. So sometimes it's open. Sometimes it's closed. Okay. So now what the American response is now to put more pressure on Iran by trying to strangle the economy. Okay. So how the United States does that is Iran ships 90 percent of its oil to China. Right. So what America did was impose a naval blockade in the Arabian Sea to prevent Chinese tankers from reaching Iran and prevent Iranian tankers from reaching China. So they wanted to stop the flow of oil from Iran to China. That's right. And that's how China gets most of its oil. Well, well, no, that's China gets its oil from a diverse for many different countries. But Iran will export 90 percent of its oil to China. And the theory is that if you stop that trade, then Iran cannot pay its soldiers. Then the soldiers would rebel, government would collapse. Okay. Okay. So that's the second step. Okay. I tried to capitalize on strike. Didn't work. So now I was trying to strangle your economy. Got it. And that doesn't work either. Right. And so what happens now is that why didn't that work because the Iranians have been under sections for the past 30 years. So they are used to being poor. Right. Right. So in Los Angeles, if you know, we made gas $10 a day, well, they'll be riots. But in Iran, you know, if you take away half their calories, well, they're used to being poor. So they're used to sanctions. They're used to living with a with a government that's like manipulating them and taking advantage of them. That's right. That's right. So therefore, the Iranians are much more able to bear pain than the American. Right. And so the American American government now under Trump is under a lot more pressure and this war than the Iranians understood. Okay. So now you move to a third step, which is you destroy the state's capacity to deliver basic services, which means water, food and electricity. So when Trump says I will destroy their civilization, what he's really saying is I will destroy their power plants. Right. Because energy is a source of civilization. Right. So the next step that we can expect, which has not happened yet, but there are signs that it will happen is the United States will target its missiles at Iranian power plants and deny electricity to the local population. And the theory is that if you do that, that people will not be able to bear the pain and they will revolt, revolt exactly. Wow. Yes. So that's a man, fool. That's a lot going on. And you believe that that's where we could be headed there. We are very much heading in that direction. Okay. So now what the Iranian student response is, they activate their proxies. Okay. Why? Because the proxies are now able to exert a lot more pain on the global economy. Right. So the Iranians are able to close out the Trevor Moos and the proxies who are the savior of the proxies are in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen. And then you have the militias, the Shia militias in Iraq. Okay. Right. So the the logic of this is by closing off the Trevor Moos Iran is denying the world, the world 20% of the global supply of oil. But now the Houthis are able to close off the back out, when not straight, then that's another 7%. So that's putting more pressure on the global economy. And now if Lebanon is able to close off this Suez Canal or put pressure on on trade over here, that's even more pressure. Right. That's a lot. Yeah. But but but as we can see, this escalation now, it's coming up really fast. Right. Right. And the real fear is that the Americans will be under so much pressure that they use tactical, tactical nuclear weapons against Iran. And then we could be looking at nuclear war and civilizational collapse. And that's what we're three for sure. No, it's an optimization for sure. Oh, yeah. Professor Zhang, what are we going to do? Do we want God? Yeah. We're good then. Okay. That's a good point. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. I'll see you on the other side. See you in the big H. That's right. Dude, I heard that if you go to heaven, this is something I heard that's kind of cool, just to take a break from the war stuff for a second. If you go to heaven, and thank you for explaining this and thank you for discussing the escalation ladder with us. Yes. If you go to heaven that when you get there, your friends are there. Yeah. Right. All your friends that you knew from here and your family, but they all like working in different places. So you might go to like a Jersey, Mike's in heaven and your brother or your ex girlfriend could be working there. And once you lock eyes with each other, you have memories of like things that you knew from this period here. Yeah. But but it's brand new there. So it's like you get to go everywhere and find your old friends and stuff. So it'd be pretty cool. Like you could be somewhere and like Frederick Douglass or whatever could be a park ranger or she's in paying or something could be he could be working at an ice cream stand, you know. So it could be kind of cool anyway. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So just letting you in on a little bit of BTS heaven lore. Great. It would be impractical for America to end up in a nuclear war though. Yeah. I don't think it will happen. Okay. Yeah. So you don't think that will happen. No. What stops that escalation ladder from going forward? Yeah. Okay. So again, we want to use game theory and step back, match ourselves, why this war is happening? Okay. Okay. Because once you figure out what the motivations of the players are, then you can figure out how far this goes, right? Because the players are trying to win. And they're they're going to try to win in a way that it's at least harmful or the easiest way to win. If that makes sense. Yeah, it does because it's kind of like poker. So say if I got an okay hand, yeah, I might bluff a little in the beginning or go in on a few blinds or something, but I'm not going to probably raise it to the end of the line because I know what I have. Right. I'm going to wait for another hand. Right. So so let's look at game theory and ask ourselves, who are the major players in this game? And what do they want? Okay. So you have the United States, of course, you have Iran, you have Israel. And I would say the fourth major country study Arabia. Okay. And why are we even in this conflict? That's right. It's so so we're trying to figure this out because that's been a big question in America, especially amongst a lot of my peers. Why are we there? Why are we putting our troops there? It doesn't seem like we have a real interest. I know there's the rumors of weapons of mass destruction again. There's rumors of nuclear weapons held by Iran. But but I think people, a lot of people feel like we've fallen for that trap before. Yes. In Iraq. Yes. In Kuwait. Yes. And that it could just be the same sort of fools errand again. Yeah, exactly. So it's a great question. Like why did America attack Iran after the failures of Afghanistan and Iraq? When also Trump, our president said that we would not go to war with Iran. That's right. That's right. So what do you think's happening? Yeah. So I want to refer you to you to something called a clean brick memo. Okay. Clean break memo. Yes, it's really important. We understand this. If we don't understand what's going on the clean brick memo, maybe your producer can bring it up. The clean brick memo of within 1996. Okay. Okay. And and so let me give you some background. So Bill Clinton is in office and Bill Clinton is obsessed with peace in the Middle East. And this is a rhyme is probably it probably. Yeah. Yeah. And this really has decided that now is a good time for a two-state solution. And the reason why is that throughout its history, Israel was always in conflict with the other Arab nations around it because of the passing an issue. Right. And the idea is that if Israel is to have security, it needs to resolve the passing issue. It needs to give the passing its own state. And then and then once that happens, then the Arab nations can resume diplomatic relations with Israel. They can trade peacefully. And then Middle East will be prosperous and peaceful. Right. But you first have to resolve the passing issue because a lot of the Palestinians were Muslim, right? That's right. And a lot of the surrounding areas are all Muslim around Israel also Muslim. That's right. So there's a pathetic towards the their kind Muslims, right. So for example, Saudi Arabia, the world family said that as long as the passing issue is not resolved, we will never ever have peace with Israel. Okay. So this is what we call the hostile peace process. Yeah, the Oslo Accords. That's right. That's right. And and the majority of the Israeli population was in favor of this. And the major leader who is spearheading this movement in Israel is exactly being. What's the name? Is that we've been us about for you? Okay. Is that Isaac? Is that we've been Rabin? Is that Rabin? Yes. Okay. Zach Rabin. And he was determined to have eternal peace with the Palestinians. So he's all this issue once and for all by giving them a state. Okay. So he and Clinton were aligned with figuring this out. That's right. That's right. That's right. And they also had air fat to help them out as well. And they and the Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were very supportive of all this process. But there was one person who was opposed to the peace process. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu. And he assembled a team of people, mainly Americans, who they're up a new policy for him called the clean break memo. Okay. And with the clean week, big memo says it's a very short document on one page. What it says is screw peace because our neighbors are Arabs and they only understand power. So you want peace. You don't negotiate. You don't compromise. You hit them hard. You keep on hitting them hard until they respect you. Okay. So there are three major pillars to the strategy called the clean break. The first is go after passing it's hard. Don't give them a land. Don't compromise them. Teach them to respect you. Okay. Show power. Make them afraid of you. Okay. That's number one. Number two is you have to rejuvenate the Israeli economy by adopting neoliberalism. Forget socialism. Let's go with capitalism because at this time socialism was very popular in Israel. And the third thing is to establish balance of power in the Middle East. Balance of power in the Middle East. And the way you do that is you destroy regimes that could potentially threaten you. This includes Syria. And this includes Iraq. And so the strategy calls for working with Turkey and Jordan to destabilize Syria. And it calls for for regime change in Iraq. Okay. It's called a clean break memo. Okay. A clean break. A new strategy for securing the realm commonly commonly known as a clean break report is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Pearl for Benjamin Netanyahu, then prime minister of Israel. The report explained a new approach to solving Israel's security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on Western values, which that means I guess more of like a capitalistic balance. That's right. That's right. It has been criticized for advocating a policy of removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and how letting its possession of weapons of mass destruction. Certain parts of the policies set forth in the paper were rejected by Netanyahu. However, the report was ultimately adopted and serves as a foundation for modern day Israeli global affairs. Is that true? Well, well, yeah, so so something really important for us to appreciate is the study group. There were two major participants in the study group, Richard Pearl and also Douglas Faith. Okay. Okay, got right. And this is important because these two are Americans. And a few years later, they will work for the Pentagon. And Douglas, Feef and Richard Pearl work with Paul Wolfefitz and these three will be in the architects of the Iraq war. Paul Wolfefitz. Yes. Okay. So you're saying two of the people that came up with the clean break memo. Yes. Then went on to work for the Pentagon. Yes. And then the architects of the Iraq war. Okay. So they were architects of the Iraq war. Here we go Douglas Faith. And American lawyer served as Secretary of Defense for policy. Faith has been described as an architect of the Iraq war and the lead up to the war. He played a key role in promoting the false claim that the Saddam Hussein regime had an operational relationship with Al Qaeda, a Pentagon inspector general report found that face office had developed produced and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on the Iraq and Al Qaeda relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community to senior decision makers. Huh. The other thing about Douglas five is he has been suspended for a long time or being an Israeli asset. Okay. But despite that, he was still able to climb the hierarchy, which is very weird because the FBI and CIA determined 1970s that he could possibly be an Israeli asset. Well, so that's interesting that he would be that they thought that and then he was still able to climb the right. Very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But not only him, but Richard Pearl was also suspected of being an Israeli asset. Richard Norman Pearl is an American political advisor who served as the assistant secretary of defense for global strategic affairs under Ronald Reagan. Pearl was an architect of the Iraq war. Yeah. He claimed that Saddam Hussein regime possessed weapons of mass destruction. Okay. So, so we need to understand what the clean big member really is. Okay. And what it really is is a blueprint for the greater Israel project. And the greater Israel project is a belief Leave among certain Zionists that the entire Middle East belongs to Israel. And just to be clear, this isn't Jewish people. This is, we're talking about the Israeli government and extremist views, right? That's right. It's not necessarily a Jewish person. Zionists is someone who believes in supremacy of Israel. Okay. So Zionists is someone who believes in supremacy of Israel. Look it up, Nick. I hear the term. We might have talked about it before. I know we've probably talked about it before some, but I don't know if you've ever looked it up. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement that emerged in late 19th century Europe to establish and support a Jewish homeland. What does ethnocultural nationalist mean? Can you click on that? Ethnic nationalism is a form of nationalism in which the nation and nationally are defined in terms of ethnicity. Yeah. What does that mean, ethnocultural nationalist? What it really means is there's certain people, Zionists who believe that God promised this land to the Jews and only the Jews and therefore only the Jews should be in this land. Okay. And therefore the Palestinians have no right to be there. Therefore, a two-state solution goes against the will of God. Got it. That's what it really means. Okay, wow. But what about people who just believe that Jewish people deserve to have their own place as well? Is that Zionism? So there are different forms of Zionism. Okay. And what I'm referring to, in extreme form Zionism, that has taken hold over Israel. Okay. Because remember, in the 1990s, everyone, the majority of people were supportive of a two-state solution. They wanted peace with the Arabs. In 1990s, is that true? Let's bring that up. Let me see. In the 1990s, the Israeli public was deeply divided rather than in full agreement regarding a two-state solution while the signing of the Azo Accords in '93 generated strong initial hope and fluctuating majority support for the peace process at various points, substantial portions of the population, including right-wing political factions and the settler movement opposed partitioning the land. So there was some support for it. Okay. Okay. So you have this extreme, so you have an extreme group. Yeah. The settler is basically. Okay. So the group you're talking about is an extreme group that's supporting this clean break. That's right. That was that one of the greater Israel. That's right. That's an extreme group. That's right. And it was led by Nanyahu. Okay. We came Prime Minister in '96 to implement the Greater Israel project. Okay. It was in power for the past 20 years. And if you look at what's been happening in the Middle East, right? The Iraq War. After that, the invasion and regime change in Libya, in Syria, and now there's attack against Iran. It is consistent with the clean break memo. Got it. And what is amazing is that this transcendence politics, both the Democrats and Republicans are participating in the implementation of the clean break memo. You mean American Democrats and American Republicans? That's right. That's right. So it was George W. Bush which launched the war against Iraq, but it was Obama who supported the regime change in Syria and in Libya, which is also part of the clean, clean break memo. What I want to do now is show you a video, this is important to watch this video together. Okay. And so the video is General Westy Clark, and he's talking to Amy Goodman, and this is 9/11, and so 9/11 was a traumatic event for Americans. And the assumption was that the U.S. military would seek vengeance against a Taliban in al-Qaeda by attacking Afghanistan. But what Westy Clark says is no, no, no. We're not just going after, I've got to say, we're going after seven countries and let's listen to what he says. And so this is a, but this, how do we know this isn't a conspiracy theory or is this facts? That's what I'm wondering. Oh, it's all facts. The clean break memo is a fact. And Westy Clark saying this, I mean Goodman, I mean, it's on YouTube. Okay. And this is U.S. Army General Westy Clark, right? That's right. Okay. He's retired now. He's talking to Amy Goodman about what happens after 9/11. Okay. About 10 days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs, just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me. And one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you got to come in and talk to me a second. I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. This was honored about the 20th of September. I said we're going to war with Iraq, why? He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well, did they find some information collecting, connecting Saddam to Al-Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military, and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if the only thing you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan, I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense Office today. He said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. I said, is it classified? He said, yes, sir, I said, I said, well, don't show it to me. So you're saying that this is part of the clean break, not right? That's right. People also can explain what's going on, and again, this is, General Westy Clark has access to confidential pending information. He's saying that right after 9/11, they've already decided to go to war against the entire Middle East. Finishing with Iran. And did we end up doing those things right there? Yes, we did. Well, not me. Not us. Yeah. Yeah, no, not us. Yeah, I wouldn't involve. I'm chill, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I definitely, yeah. My neighbor sometimes because of their dog or whatever, but wasn't me, man. Yeah. So, but we've gone, but have we done those things that they said in that video and that that have we attacked? Have we gone to war with those places? Yeah. What was the places he listed? So, Syria, right? That's done. Libya, Iraq, Somalia, one of them. Yeah. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. So, Iran is the last one to list. Is this final boss? Final boss. That's right. Wow. Yeah. That's the final boss. That's the Mike Tyson right there. Yeah. So, and why do you feel like, so you feel like America is working at the behest of the Israeli government of Netanyahu's choices? Well, like, what do you think that relationship is there? Well, it seems, yeah, because if this is true, then it would say that America is working at the behest of Netanyahu and some of these other people who this is what they want, right? Or is this what we want? Yeah. So, again, there's a pattern here, right? So, I'm not trying to make a judgment. I'm trying to do this point on a pattern that's emerging. In '96, they read the Clean Break memo encouraging Netanyahu to choose a path of war and dominance in the Middle East and to clean break away from the Oslo peace process, and that's exactly what he's been doing for the past 20 years. Then these people, specifically Richard Pearl and then his five, they go work for the Pentagon and they implement a lot of the clean big memo policies by starting a war against Iraq for no particular reason. And then for no particular reason, what happens in Americans attack Libya, Syria, destabilized the regime, cost millions of refugees to flow into Europe. And now we have this war in Iran, and we don't even know why Trump attacked Iran. And you point this out, like, he never, he's been saying for a long time that he would not do so. Yeah. So, what's going on here, right? Like if the United States was not doing this at the behest of Israel, then how do we explain what's going on? Right. Right. Now, what I'll do now is use game theory to explain why Israel would want this, right? Because so this, this, this would be hard for Americans to understand, right? So Americans understand. Okay. Okay. But like Western Clark says, we need to remove seven nations in five years and they're doing that, right? Iran is the final boss. And the idea is there is a Zionist want to achieve the greater Israel project. And the idea of the original project is that Israel will dominate the Middle East. And only if Israel does that will juice, have security in the Middle East. Okay. Now, weren't they secure before, like, I don't understand why they weren't secure. Right. So they weren't secure because the Palestinians were in revolt against them. your passing is felt. that they were being oppressed, that their land was stolen from them. And so they were engaging in terrorist activities against the Israelis, including bus bombings, including airplane hijackings. - But why wouldn't Israel just figure that out instead of go this other big route? It seems like, you know what I'm saying? It seems like if it's me figuring out something with a neighbor as opposed to battling the whole town, it would seem like more at my behest, like a wiser choice to just figure out something with my neighbor. - Right, because you have a brother who's kind of crazy. And your brother believes that this house is not their house. It's our house, which are stolen by this other family. And so we have a right to go take it back from them. - Okay. - And there's nothing you can do about your brother. - And you're saying, yeah, who's the crazy brother? - Basically, I got it. - Right, and these are what we call the settlers, right? - Okay. - These are people who go against Israeli national law and go and forcefully evict pathogens from their homes. Even though this is against, it's really national law. - Yeah, I know there's a lot of cases of that. You can see them on YouTube too, people getting evicted from their homes for no reason. People taking people's land. A lot of heartbreaking stuff out there. Okay, so now you're showing me, what are you this year looking at here? - Okay, so let's just take what we know and draw things to the larger conclusion. - So this is game theory. - This is game theory, okay? - If you believe that this land was given to you by God and it says so in the Bible, okay? And you believe that it is Israel's destiny to don't make the Middle East. Your real enemy is not Iran, right? Who's your real enemy? - The United States of America. - Oh, the United States, right? - Because United States provides security guarantees to many Arab nations. Saudi Arabia is protected by the United States. And Saudi Arabia is part of the Greater Israel project. Egypt is protected by the United States. Egypt is also part of the Greater Israel project, right? So what you need to do is remove both Iran and the United States from the equation. And the best way to do that is to have them go to war against each other, right? And then Israel is the last nation standing and then they achieve the Greater Israel project. But this is game theory, by the way. - This is game theory. - But how would you, like, how would America, I mean, our country's way over here. And I know that's like, I know that doesn't mean everything that we have this geographical space. But how would we, like, how would we be defeated in it? - Well, we would be, like the United States would be defeated. If this war becomes so unpopular at home that the people would be vote and that's forces the American military to retreat back to American borders. - Okay. So then we would lose that war, but we wouldn't lose our country, though. - No, wait, yeah. I mean, the United States wouldn't lose their country, but they would lose the empire, yeah. - Oh, so we would, we would completely remove ourself from the Middle East. You're saying remove ourself from all of our allies and then Israel would have the ability to control them. - That's right. - But why doesn't Israel just go control them and not even involve us? - Because Saudi Arabia and the other nations at Middle East, they have a lot of money and they invest hundreds of dollars in the US economy in exchange for US protection. - Got it, yeah. - Wow. - You know, one thing that has scared me and I've heard people, a lot of people talk about it was like a lot of like the technology and stuff that they've used in Palestine, like doing a lot of the genocide over there. It's like drones being used to kill people, being used to kill children. We had a doctor on who was talking about children getting shot just right down through their bodies, you know, like in a way that was like, it seemed very logical that drones were the ones that were doing it. All the reporters being killed there so that nobody could transfer any real information out of the world over there. One of those things, especially with the technology and then you start to see the surveillance stuff happening in America, it starts to make you think, well, why wouldn't it come here? Like that's certainly a fear that I hear a lot is that we're gonna become in this surveillance state and then the same thing could happen to us over here if we're out of line with who is your old again control of America and then we're out of line with something that they see or some behavior or something or they wanna move people here off of their land, you know, it's that's something that's very scary. - Yeah, so you look at Gaza. I think Gaza is the pilot for surveillance state. - You think it's pilot for what? - For surveillance state. - Yeah, as a testing ground. - That's a testing ground for some of the state because like the theory is that once Israel achieves a greater racial project and now needs to control this entire area and there aren't that many Jews. So it needs surveillance technology in order to control the local population. What I think will happen and this is gonna shock a lot of people is right now Israel is very close with India and India, the population is booming and there's a lot of young people. And if you let them just stay in India, they're gonna revolt against you because they come to that doing so well. But so what if Israel and India were to get together and says, hey, let's bring in millions of Indians to work now in the Middle East because war has to short the population on the Middle East. And now you can use surveillance technology to control these Indians and these Indian people are used to like caste system anyway. So the idea that the Jews are at the very top, right? And the Indians are working class like they're like doing a labor and it's all been controlled by surveillance technology. Well, you would achieve the greater racial project. - Wow. And do you think that's what's going on? - I think that's the direction we're moving towards. We're not able to succeed, I can't really say, but I think that's the plan. - The people, certainly the people of Israel don't wanna see all that, like they don't wanna see so many people get killed and that sort of stuff happen. You think they want to? - I think Israel may be heading towards a civil war between two places. You have Tel Aviv, which is the gay city in the world, very liberal, very cosmopolitan. - You mean gay, like people being gay? - Like I mean like real gay. - Like men that hug each other? - Yeah, and women can hug each other too. - Oh yeah, okay, I don't know if you're using it like hype, but that is homosexuals. - Like homosexuals, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Sorry. - Yeah, it's regular gays, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I didn't know if we were talking about different branch of gays, or I didn't know if it was going home. - Yeah, like, yeah, just gays. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they have Jerusalem, which is very conservative, very religious. So these are two competing visions of Israel. And unfortunately, the people in Jerusalem are the ones with the power, and they are extreme in their religious vision, okay? - Yeah, I just, well, I know they have an election coming up over there. - That's right, they do this. - And so that's, I just feel like, is that going to determine a lot? 'Cause I mean, I feel bad for a lot of my Jewish friends here who do not want to be associated. Like, you know, it's heartbreaking to them. You know, my friend, Michael's always talking to me. It's like, you know, to make sure to like to let, like just because Israel doesn't mean Jewish people. It doesn't mean like, it's the government. - That's right. - So I would need to show you how extreme these people are. - Okay. - Right? So the Holocaust was a traumatic event. And six million Jews died. Let me ask you this question. Okay. Why did the Holocaust happen? - The Holocaust happened, I guess, because of ideology that was created by Hitler and his regime. - Yeah, it was Hitler's fault, right? Okay. The extremist Jews are called Kapilis, okay, the Kabbalah. And they have an extreme vision of how the universe works. And the deep dark secret that they have about the Holocaust is the Jews deserved it, okay? So let me explain why. If you read the Bible, the Bible, the Old Testament, basically, it's fundamentally about the relationship between God and the historician people, the Jews. And problems arise when the Jews turn away from God. So for example, when Moses was leading the people from exile in Egypt to the promised land, the people chose to worship an idol. And the first commandment is to not worship false idols. So God had to punish them by making them wander, wander the desert for 40 years, okay? And this is a consistent theme throughout the Old Testament where Jews suffer because they turn away from God. So the most dramatic event in the Bible is the destruction of the first temple where the Babylonists come in and destroy the first temple. Now if you read the Bible, the book is Jeremiah, what Jeremiah the prophet says is, the Babylonians are not the enemy of God. They are the tool of God to punish the Israelites for turning away from God, okay, right? So if you just extend logic, then logic is this. Not because of Hitler, but because the Jews turn away from God. And so there's groups that believe that. - That's right. - So at this point in history, there's 1900 when Zionism comes into being. Most Jews think Zionism is retarded. I'm a Jewish person living in Germany, living in the United States, living in England. I've assimilated into society. I'm a professor, I'm a doctor. I'm doing well for myself. I'm secular. I have lots of friends who are Christians. So what does secular mean? Secular means non-religious. - Okay. - Right? So it's like, why would I go to a desert called Palestine? It's not called Israel, it's called Palestine, where there are already people living there. And it's like literally a desert, right? So only about 3% of the global Jewish population at this point in history, the year 1900, I just support the idea of Zionism. - Okay. - Right? So the Holocaust had to happen in order to force the Jews to hold the covenant with God. Because the Jews were created as God chosen people. They're the light of nations. They are meant to show true faith in God and therefore be virtuous and be the moral guidance for the world. - Okay, so they were chosen to be an example of God. - They're chosen to be the light of nations. They're chosen to be the best representatives of humanity. - Okay, yes. - So you're saying that some like devout Jewish people or religious or an extreme, this is an extreme group, believe that the Holocaust was supposed to happen because the people in the Bible had turned away from God. - Right, is that what you're saying? - So yes or no, you're saying. - Okay, so let me clarify what they believe the mission of the Jewish people is, okay? The mission of the Jewish people is to return to Israel, create the greater Israel project, which is the promised land and then build the third temple which will be the house of God, okay? So the purpose of history is to force a reunion between the Jewish people and God. And once that happens, then the world will end and we will be in paradise forever. So there must be three things must happen for this world to end, okay? The first thing that must happen is the greater Israel project has to be achieved and therefore we have these wars in the Middle East. But why would that have to be achieved if that was something that was just developed 30 years ago? - Because according to these people, the original covenant between the Jewish people and God is that God promised them the land, stretching from the now in Egypt to your free days in Iraq, okay? As the covenant, okay? And the Jewish people, once they receive this land, they must be loyal to God. So for God to return, first of all, his promise must be kept, okay? So the first thing is the greater Israel project must be achieved. Second thing that must happen is all Jewish people must return to Israel and repent. Meaning if you don't believe in God, you have to believe in God. If you're Jewish. Meaning if you're homosexual, if you're Jewish, - Better tighten it up. - You better, you better like learn how to like, you know, figure it out. - Yeah, you know, thank. - Yeah. - That's gonna be a long day. - Yeah, yeah. Start liking this, man. So that's a third second thing. And a third thing is the third temple must be built because that's where God will live, okay, got it. But the problem is the site of the third temple is now where the Alexic Moskis, the Alexic Mosk is the third holy site in the Muslim world. So if they destroyed the Alexic Mosk in order to build a third temple, this would trigger a religious war between Jews and the Muslims. - Oh wow. - Yeah. So these are three things that must happen according to the eschatology. - Okay. So, but you're not saying that's gonna happen. You're just saying that if you look at that, that's according to what? Is that according to? - That's according to the eschatology, which is what they believe how the world ends and how we achieve heaven on earth. - But who believes that? Like my Jewish friends, I don't think believe that. - That's right, that's right. - What's right? They do believe it or they don't believe it. - They don't believe this, okay. This theory, okay, whatever's told you, the vast majority of Jewish people who are religious think this is heresy. - Okay. - This is madness. It's insane, okay. The problem is that this ideology is promoted by secret societies around the world. - Okay. - And secret societies control the world. And that's why we're seeing a lot of things happen. Because how else can you explain why the United States is attacking Iran for no particular reason? - I mean, it's definitely, look, I think a lot of people believe it. It's at the behest of Israel. There's some involvement there. But I think, yeah, but after that, it's like, yeah, you kind of don't know why. A lot of it's just like questions. And you don't get a lot of information sometimes. Like, you know, you'll ask political figures and stuff. Why are we so embedded here? And a lot of them don't have an answer. And so I think that's the part that seems kind of alarming. And I think that's also the part. When you don't get a lot of clear information, that's when a lot of like conspiracy theories, different ideas, uncertainties, ideas like this even start to take even more shape. Because you don't know. You're not, and you're not getting information from people who should know. So I think it's like, I do understand how people can start to, yeah, it makes perfect sense. How people can start to believe things and how people can start to look into things because there's no place to get real news anymore. There's no place to get the information. - Yeah, and you know, a lot of things that are happening right now just defy human logic. So everyone's looking at Donald Trump's like, the war is lost already. Just make peace with Iran. Just get out of there. And what Trump is doing is doing, he's doing taco. Like one day he's like, we're gonna end your civilization. And the other day he's like, let's make peace guys. Let's just be friends. And the next day he's like, no, I'm gonna nuke you now. And the next day he's like, oh, you know what? I didn't really mean that. It's just weird. - Yeah, it feels bizarre. - It feels pointless, but it matches with everything feels bizarre right now. - And like, the way that Trump is behaving right now goes against his character. Because in the 80s and 90s he was a real estate developer. He was a business person, right? He understood like, if you do business, you need have credibility. You can't flip flop because everyone will be scared of you. - I agree, that's actually a really good point. I mean, even when he was running for office it seemed like every other thing. It seemed like he knows exactly what he's talking about. It seems like he knows exactly where he stands. - So it's just really weird situation where how the United States is behaving in the Middle East it goes against American interests. - And the way that Donald Trump is behaving it goes against his character. He's never behaved like this before. You mentioned a little bit ago about secret societies, right? Can you take me into some of that and you said that you believe that that's some of what is controlling some of this? - Secret society's rule the world, okay? So let me explain. - Secret society's rule the world. - Yes, okay, so let me explain why that's a case, right? So the power in the world is what we call transnational capital, right? And transnational capital, all it means is money that is able to move freely around the world and invest where it wants, extract profit from these places. And so transnational capital would include pension funds. It would include sovereign wall funds. It would include private capital such as state street, vanguard, wall street, city of London. - China has a huge sovereign wall fund, doesn't it? - That's right. So transnational capital is a huge entity. And they say money makes the world go around, okay? So transnational controls the world. And so money controls the world basically, okay? So, but the problem is that transnational capital is a game. - It's a game? - It's a game, right? Because you're trying to maximize your profit. You're trying to beat others in the stock market. And in any game, there's a certain way to win, right? And the answer, and so like, how do you win every single game? Like, remember what game you play? What's the secret to winning every game? - Get to the end. - The answer is you cheat, okay? You play by the rules, you work hard, and you play fair, you're a sucker, okay? To win the game, you have to cheat. And the best way to cheat is to secretly conspire with others to rig the game in your favor, okay? And that's what we have secret societies, right? Because to win the game of capital, you need three things. First of all, you need access to secret information. You need to know more things than other people know. Second thing you need is infiltration. You need your people to go in the government in order to create policies that favor you. And the third thing is you need coordination, conspiracy between these different groups in order to create an outcome that you want, right? So, an example is the Rothschild family. And the Rothschild family became one of the most powerful banking families in the world because they had a secret network of agents scattered throughout Europe. So in 1815, Napoleon fights the battle of Waterloo. And obviously he loses. And the Rothschild has an agent who witnessed the battle Then he sends us information to. back to England on a Corvette, which is a fast ship. Then what happens is rumors spread that the English lost the war. And now there's tremendous fear. - But that wasn't true. - It was not true, they won. But the first rumor-- - The agent got there and spread a rumor. - Well, we don't know, okay? But they're rumors that they lost the war, which create a panic. And the Rothschild were able to make a lot of money doing that, okay? And this is very common. And so this shows an example of how information is crucial if you want to win the game of charge financial capital. Got it, right? And-- - So the Corvette got there, the fast ship got there and knew in advance that-- - The Rothschilds knew in advance. - The Rothschilds knew in advance. - The war that the battle had been won. And three days later, official news came to the British public. Tell them not to battle up in one. But during these three days, there's mass panic because rumors are spreading that the battle has been lost. - I see, so the Rothschilds was able to capitalize on that panic financially. - That's right. - And so that's when people started realizing, oh, we can do this. - Right, right. And so think about the world that we live in today, right? Where if you have like one minute of confidence or information, you're able to make millions, billions, right? So the question is, how do you access this information? Well, you do so through transnational networks. And throughout history, there've been three major transnational networks in Europe. The first is the Freemasons, the second are the Jesuits, and the third are the Jewish diaspora. And at some point, they figured out, why don't we just work together? - No. - And what they call themselves. - The Illuminati. - Damn. - Yeah. - I heard about it. My black friends are always talking about them, man. - Yeah. - The Illuminati. - Damn. - They got us. - The Illuminati is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name usually refers to the Bavarian Illuminati. An Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1st, 1776, and the electorate of Bavaria. The Illuminati, along with Freemasonry and other secret societies were outlawed through edict by Charles Theodore. And the subsequent use, Illuminati has been used when referring to various organizations alleged to be a continuation of the original Illuminati. These organizations have often many cues of conspiring to control world affairs by masterminding events and planting agents in governments and corporations in order to gain political power, influence, and establish a new world order. - Dun, dun, dun, dun. - I mean, I think if Trish not sure how it controls the world, you need to decide it's to win the game. - Got it. So in addition to there being countries, there's these different countries. - They're above countries. - But they're above countries. - Right. - Wow. And so they'll have members of different countries that are part of-- - Right, right. - So think of Jeffrey Epstein, right? So everyone's thought that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossade agent. - He was above Mossade. - Wow. Dang. - Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein is still alive? - I don't think he's alive. - Yeah, because-- - Do you think he died in the jail cell? - Yes, yes. Yes, because he's expandable. - What is the basic code do you think of the Illuminati? Do you think they have a code? - That's a great question, okay? So when do you have these secret societies? We have to remember like secret societies are just a natural outcome of the game of transnational capital. So you have like many different secret societies in place. And so which societies have the greatest advantage? And the answer is those who practice eschatology have the greatest advantage. - Eschatology? - Right eschatology is the belief in that God will end the world at some point, okay? And so why is it that eschatological secret societies are superior to other secret societies? And the reason why is they're able to channel the religious energy of millions of people. So look at, so why we're having this war in the Middle East, it's not just secret societies. It's also the fact that you have tens of millions of Christian Zionists, Christian Evangelicals who support Israel, right? So if you're an investor, there are three ways to make the most money. The first is war, second is revolution, the third is religion. So this is society's food eschatology, we're supporting war, revolution and religion because if you're a millionaire, will you invest your money in a stark market? But if you're a trillionaire, you invest your money in war, revolution and religion. - Wow. - But don't you, do you think that it's sometimes it's kind of a debt like, is it like, if you think of it all like that, right? Doesn't it feel pretty dark? - It is dark, but once you actually study the eschatology, once you study the religion, it actually gives you hope. Because what motivates these people is not greed. It's not power, it's faith. It's, they're accelerationists. They believe that God has a divine plan. And all I'm doing is helping God accelerate this plan. - Wow. - Oh my gosh, dude, what the heck? So this is, that's part of some people's faith. They believe, they have a strong enough faith that they believe that what they're doing is helping to accelerate it. - That's right. Oh my gosh, I don't even know what to think anymore. - And that's why things are happening so fast. - I mean, it does, it does, yeah. It feels like things are happening so fast. That's it's like, what is happening so fast? - Yeah. - So how does this end? - I mean, that's kind of dark, but. - Maybe we just leave it to be continued, yeah. - Well, we can pray that that doesn't happen because we don't know that that's, we don't know that's going to happen, right? - They put their faith in God, we should put our faith in God. - Amen. Yeah, that's from our faith is. - Yep. - In Jesus' name, man, amen, brother. We just have to keep our faith where we can. And we can, we can control, we can control. And it's always, if that's the case and it's always been part of something. - Yes. - You know? And it's like, all we can do is do or just do what we can and try our best by our own compass, right? - That's right. - Amen. - Amen. - Jesus, believe in Jesus. - Yeah. - Amen. You are, you're Chinese. - Yes, thank you, I guess. - Okay, sorry, I didn't just make it short, I didn't know. - Yeah, yeah. - I don't know for sure if you are or not. - Yeah. - What, what's, some people, has anybody ever said that they thought you were a plant that you, they thought you-- - Oh yeah. - Yeah, absolutely. - What do you get? - Okay, so now and then-- - Because you'd be a good Chinese asset. - Yeah, yeah. - Well, there are people who believe on the end of Christ. There are people who believe that I'm in my Chinese classroom with my whiteboard and my whiteboard is magical. So I can actually like direct the course of human events with my whiteboard. I'm just there and I'm just like, I want more. And I want, you know, and I'm like, I'm not the end of Christ. - Okay. - I swear to you, I'm not the end of Christ. - Okay. - I'm not a Chinese spy, but I'm not the end of Christ. - Yeah. - Okay. - Speaking of that, speaking of China, what is China's relationship right now? Where do they play a role? 'Cause you didn't factor them into this at all. - Yeah. - China, China looks at what's happening and they're like, what the fuck is going on? What the hell are you guys doing? That's China. - Do you think that they're hyper worried? Do they have a lot of like, do they have a lot of intelligence assets that are over here working and that are working in the Middle East? What do you think's going on? I'm sure, 'cause they obviously, they're a world power. They're gonna have, they're gonna be concerned and involved. - Yeah. So the problem with China is that Chinese are non-religious. So it's almost impossible for Chinese to appreciate what's happening in the Middle East. - But they're capitalist though. - They're capitalist and they want this world and as soon as possible, because they want people to trade with each other. Chinese don't go to war, they trade. And so everyone's trying to just completely confuse. But historically, China, there's been war in China. - Well, there's war within China, but China doesn't really go out and invade other countries. The way that the United States does. - So what is America's current relationship with China? Do you feel like, I've had friends recently say that they think the safest place to move in the world right now is China. - Yeah, I think that what's happening is a domino effect where the war in the Middle East fires out of control, it engulfs everyone. So like a World War III? - Yeah, and it's like total war. - And what would the sides be? - It would be complete chaos. So the idea is that the war, the world, will break out into regional wars. So imagine in Europe, NATO is fighting Russia in Ukraine, right? And there's a possibility that Russia may take over the Baltic countries, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and maybe even attack Poland, okay? So imagine all of Europe is out in flames. You move over to the Middle East and everyone's at Eastern throat, right? You move over to East Asia, what the most likely scenario is that China is in conflict with Japan, and North Korea is in conflict with South Korea. The real danger in East Asia is not China, it's actually North Korea, because North Koreans have actually nothing to lose. They're kind of crazy and they're brave. So North Koreans have been sending soldiers to fight in Ukraine and they fight to the death. - Is that true? - Yeah, 10,000 North Korean troops in it. - 10,000 North Korean troops in Ukraine, right? - Yeah, in Ukraine, that's right. - And they fight to the death. And the reason why is if they're captured, they're family members back in North Korea? - Get killed? - Yeah. - No way. - Welcome to a dictatorship. - North Korea continues to expand its military support for Russia and the war against Ukraine in addition to sending troops and weaponry. Pyongyang is now said to have deployed a missile unit to Western Russia. Wow, by the end of 2024, Ukraine, the United States and the South Korea estimated that around 10,000 to 12,000 North Korean soldiers have been sent to Russia and that's just 2024. - That's right. So they're trying to recent them to 30,000. - Wow. - Yeah. - Unbelievable. I've heard you talk about the grand bargain with China and that's between America and China. - That's right. Tell me a little more about that. - Right. So there are two nations that currently benefit the most from the current global economic order. They are the United States and China. The United States obviously because it can show us the US dollar, but China as well because China was able to live millions out of poverty because of global trade, right? So both are heavily invested in maintaining the current global order. And so the idea of a grand bargain is that they resolve a Taiwan issue where basically China and Taiwan sign an agreement where they reconcile politically and the United States withdraws from East Asia and allows China to maybe dominate East Asia. - Okay, understood. So that's something that China would want, probably just a little bit more assurance that they don't have to deal with America over there. - That's right. But also for China, Taiwan is a huge political issue because there's something called a center of humiliation where China was caught up in the 19th century by Dorsen powers. And having Taiwan back in the fall of the model land will be a tremendous political achievement because it would mean the reunification of the model land, the completion of the model land. And that's something that China would pay a huge price for. And right now the United States needs China to buy more US treasuries. So that's the idea of the grand bargain. Got it. - What do you think is going on with America right now? Do you feel like we're still the world's economic superpower? - It's an empire in decline. It's like I'm just walking the streets of Los Angeles and it really seems that America is on a brink of a civil war. And really you think that? - Yeah, yeah. - How would that happen though? - Yeah, I think that the midterms will be a major test of the cohesion of this country. And what I think may happen is Trump may go for a third term. - No way, how could he do it? Can't you only go for two terms? - So according to the constitution, there's something called the 22nd Amendment, which says that a US president may not sit for more than two terms. But there's loophole. Loophole is Imagine in 2028. Don Jr. is at the top of the ticket and Donald Trump is the vice president. They win and then Don Jr. he resigns and then Donald Trump is now the president again. - No way. - You think that you think that's gonna happen? - I think there's a strong possibility this could happen. But also there's the War Powers Act where America is at war and so they just turn the constitution, which is what happened in Ukraine. - That's why Ukraine could not have an election. - Right, because they're at war. - And if they could have an election, would they still elect Zelensky? Do you think? - Probably not. - Got it. - There's a lot of darkness out there. - Yeah. - What are some positives that you see? What are things? What's a positive way that you see out of some of this? And please have an answer for me, Professor. - Yeah, family. Love, God. I mean, that's why we're here. We're here to experience things that we couldn't experience anywhere else because we're eternal souls. Like once you appreciate that, this is only the thing that we're experiencing here. It's only a journey and a eternity of experiences and that we're here to experience things that are unique to this world. And one thing that's unique to this world is family. Like having children. So. - And love. - And love, exactly. - Hugging somebody. - Exactly. - Yeah, doing your best. - Yeah. - Be supportive, sharing. So if you just focus on what's happening to you politically, you'll go insane. You'll literally go insane. - Are you insane yet? - I have a family, right? So I have a wife who loves me. So I want to tell you the story of how my wife and I met. And you can appreciate how much we love each other. - Okay. - Okay, so we met each other about 10 years ago. And I'm about 40. And this is like the darkest moment in my life. - What was going on? - Well, I was unemployed. I had no place to stay. And I was depressed. And I felt that life was hopeless. And I literally believed that my wife was an angel sent by God to redeem me, to save me, to show me that love is possible. So one day, I could be sitting across from you, telling the world that love is possible. And if we just move towards love, then we will redeem the world. But so, I made this my wife randomly. And we go on a first date. - Where'd you meet her at? - I met her randomly at an event. And it was like, love at first sight. And I asked for a number, I called her out. And if you ask for it, God will give it to you. And I was asking for someone who could be my wife. I wanted to start a family. And so we go on this date. And I took this place really nice in Beijing. We go to a Japanese restaurant, I order Sake. And it's a lovely date. Now, the custom in China is that on the first date, if you really like someone, the woman will get serious suddenly. I mean, you can be laughing for her out. But suddenly, the woman will get really serious. Look at you dead in the eye and ask you, how much money do you make? Like what's the size of your background count? Really, that's a serious, that's a real thing that happens. - Yeah, you know, because I'd say to you, they'll ask you what your dick size is, right? - Yeah, something. - Well, we're more advanced civilization. So we ask, how much money do you have? - Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. - Okay, okay. - And like, I'm really afraid we reach this point, right? So this date is going fantastic. You work with two hours and we're just laughing, we're connecting, we're some particle. And then my date, my future wife gets serious. Looks at me dead in the eye. And I'm freaking out, I'm trembling. I'm nervous because like-- - 'Cause you're on the job. - I don't fucking job, man. And so she looks at me in the eye and she asks me, "So, are you gay?" Oh, and I felt such relief, I knew. She's the one, man. She gets me, right? Yeah, she doesn't care about boards, she just cares if I'm gay. - Yes, I can work with that, you know? - Yeah, dude, a corner. - Yeah, yeah, but it's like these moments that make this world so wonderful and so blessed. So we should just focus on moments like this. - Yeah, yeah, moments where people are asking if you're gay or not. - Yeah, what's better than asking your dick size or you know, your bank account. - Oh yeah, for sure, I think yeah, it is better than asking how much money you make. - Yeah. - I'm so happy that you've found that you got somebody. - 'Cause you were 40 and you didn't think you were gonna have someone. - That's right, I thought that I was a drift. I thought that life was pointless. - What were you doing, were you living at home? - No, I was literally living from place to place with my suitcase. I had no place to live, I was unemployed. - Well, don't they give you a job in China? Like, tell me a little bit more. What is it like in China? - Yeah, yeah. So I went to China to work as an education reformer. So I believe like the best way to build a good future. - But you grew up there? - No, no, so my background is, I was born in China, but when I was six, I moved over to Canada and that's where I grew up. Then I went to Yale, university. - Thank cool. - Yeah, yeah, and then I went back to China to help reform the school system. - I love Canada, man. Did you live in Winnipeg? - No, I lived in Toronto. - Oh, thank you. Yeah, I'm hoping my friend Diego Pavego is up there in place for Canada. - Yeah. - You know, Canada's really cool, but we're a bit slow. We have five years of high school rather than four. - Yeah. - So IQ is a bit lower than the Americans, but. - You guys have great posture up there. Canada has some of the best posture in the whole world I've noticed. That's something that I've noticed. Okay, so you end up back over there in China. But is it like, do you hear a lot of stories that people can only have one child? Like what are some of the policies that are true over there? that we hear about? - Well, you know, the one child policy was true for a long time, but then Chinese were aging, and there were none of children to support the elderly. So they, and then the birth rate was declining, and so they put more policies to encourage more fertility, and now you can have as many children as you want. - Nice. - But, but, I mean, the reality is like, most young people do not want to have children. It's a situation, I mean, it's a similar situation throughout the world, like, in the United States, young Americans don't have children, Europeans are the same, same way. Right now, the fertility rate in East Asia in North, in South Korea, I think it's 0.6 in China's 1.0 in Japan, it's like 1.2, 1.3, but it's really low. - World population prospects in the United Nations publisher, what chart is this, Nick, can you tell me? - Yeah, it's, I think this is world fertility rate. - In 1963, it was 5.3 bursts per woman, and now it's 2.2 bursts per woman. That's wild. And China has 1.0, 1 burst per woman. - Yeah. - And, boy, who has that big, go to the top and hit the tops, shed a Congo, they have six bursts per woman, Niagara, Mozambique, 5 bursts per woman. - So, my wife has seven college roommates, there's eight in her dorm, and we have three kids. - Oh, you guys have three kids? - We have three kids, yeah. - And you met your once on Christophe easier today. And so, she, they're in their 30s, which is a prime age to have children, and collectively they have three kids, yeah. So, it's not happening. - No, it's not happening. Yeah. - We've looked at some stuff today that seems kind of dour, but it's also interesting, you know? Do you think that peace is an option, and how would we get there? Do you feel like, like what has to adjust? - I think that, for the longest time, we've trusted our leaders to-- - I agree with you. - And-- - We thought they had our best interests. And in fact, there's controlled by secret societies, and there are crazy people who want to achieve their esotology. And it's time for us to wake up. And if we collectively wake up, then we will achieve peace in this world. But waking up is a hard process. - Yes. - As you know, right? It's a very hard process. It means going against social conventions, it means defying all that you've been taught. It means losing a lot of friends and family in the process. - Have you suffered from even speaking out about certain things? And have you had any issues come your way? Have you ever for your safety? Have you had people that have spoken up against you? Or what's that been like for you? - Yeah, so one thing that I think a lot about is what the consequences for telling the truth, for speaking up, for drawing attention to secret societies. And here's my logic. I think that these people get you where they are because they are, they really do believe in God. But the God they believe in may not be the God that we believe in, right? But they really do believe in God. And they really believe that what they're doing is, doing God's will and their accelerating events that were predestined by God since the beginning of time. And so I present a paradox to them because I seem to know their plans, right? And so if I don't get their plans correct, then I'm an idiot and they can just ignore me. But if I'm able to articulate their plans, then how am I able to know all this? Because I'm not part of the secret societies. I don't know any of these people, by the same time I know how they think and I know what their plan is. So they can't resolve this paradox. So the, the only thing they can do is ignore me. I'm kind of dissonance. Does that make sense? - Right, if they were to come for you, then it would prove that there's something true about their plan. Is that what you're saying? - No, if they, so in their mindset, if, the only way I could know their plan is if God told me their plan. But they think that they're doing God's work. So how to explain the fact that, they're God telling them what to do, but also God's telling me to tell the world - That their plan's bad. - What the, what the plans are. So they're like, well, we don't know how to resolve this. So let, let's, let's ignore this guy. - Yeah. - Hmm. - Do you? - Sorry, sorry, sorry. One more point is the idea of, so there's a theory out there that a lot of these societies, they reveal to you what their plan is. And the reason why is, let's just say they screw up and they built the world and we're all go to heaven and then God asked, hey, so what happened? How did you blow up the earth? And well, most of us would be like, we didn't know what was going on, right? So they get all the blame. But let's just say they tell us their entire plan. - Oh, right. - Then it's all of our fault. - Then it's our fault. We're complicit in our own destruction. - Yeah. - Right? So maybe I'm a useful tool. Maybe I'm a useful idiot who mysteriously is able to decipher their plans. I'm telling the world what's happening, but the things are just like, that's cool of us because now, if everyone knows what's happening and they do nothing and it's complicit. - Ah, and so, yeah. - We've all become very complicit with things being okay. - Yeah. - Is it the same in China? - Yes, yes, exactly. - It's kind of heartbreaking sometimes. It's like, I don't know what happened. I don't know if there's been like this slow sedation. I can't tell what has occurred. I can't tell if, you know, I don't know. It all just feels like we've lost some of our. - The great truth is that we're all spiritual beings. - That's true. - We're a first and foremost spiritual beings. - That's true. - But materialism has corrupted us. We should be focused on our spiritual wellbeing, on our consciousness, on elevating ourselves, on being generous, on being open, on being spiritual. And now we live in a world where money is everything. So we just pursue materialism. - Right, we're so, yeah, you're so focused your whole life and it's all built towards this. You gotta go to school to get a grade. - That's right. - To get a college, to get a job, to get a thing, and then get it from a. - That's right. - And to get a house. Everything is like the next carrot, it's always something. - We are in the matrix. - Yeah. - And we have to wake up. - Wow. Dang. We are in the matrix. Hello. We're in here. We want out. Whoever's seeing us, we want out. Help. We're in an interesting spot I feel like with, Oh, was that CERN accelerated? Did that have anything to do with how time's been adjusted? Do you think or know? Do you see anything with that? - I don't know much about that either, okay. One thing I wanted to ask you before you leave. Financially, you've talked about the transnational capital. - Yeah. What would you do with money or assets right now? What do you feel like the future that could look like? Have you thought about that much? - Yeah, so I think that the world is heading towards financial collapse. And it's pretty clear with the AI bubble, right? Where they're building these data centers. And it's really uncertain how they will make money out of these data centers. And it really seems the AI bubble is gonna burst. And it really seems that the AI state is heading towards financial collapse. And so I think that trying to figure out where to put your money, it's a dead end. You have to think about how do I live my consciousness so that I'm ready to help myself as well as others in a time of crisis. - Oh, okay. Right, so what could I create right now? What could I start to have around me or what knowledge could I start to have? 'Cause if the grid goes down suddenly, you're just back to your own knowledge. - That's right. - And dude, a lot of us, if we had to go back to our own knowledge, bro, she would be bunk. - Yeah, we're dead. - Yeah. So, but it will be exciting, but I do think you're right. It's like, what skills would you have? What can you apply? How could you help someone? What could you offer? - Yeah. - And in a weird way, man, I feel like it's almost what we could use the most. Is that scary to say that? Look, I think that what you do, telling jokes, is exactly what we'll need in a time of crisis. We need, in a time of darkness, to see the light. And laughing is the best way to see the light. - Yeah. - Yeah, man, telling stories, being a part of joy, sitting around people laughing, that's my favorite thing. - That's right. - Yeah, sometimes I got lost, I think, on just like what was important, you know? The past few years, it's been fun. I've been having a good time, but some of it's just been like, yeah, I don't know, you get, you get focused and you kind of, you don't lose yourself, but you. you feel a little disconnected from yourself, you know? - Yeah, so, you know, I work in school before, and what my theory is that a school should be centered around laughter, because if kids come into class, laughing, they learn the best. They're engaged, they're excited. So there was a science experiment, many years ago, called a scientific experiment. - Yeah, yeah, call it a laugh club, okay? - And so this Indian doctor, all he did was bring in people together at a park, and just laugh together. And laughter and laughing is infectious, right? So if someone's laughing, other people are laughing. - Yeah. - And he just asked people to pretend to laugh. Like, ha, ha, ha, ha. But what's magical is like, when you start to pretend to laugh, another people are pretending to laugh as well, people start to laugh naturally. - Yeah. - And when he discovered it is, people who participated in a laugh club every morning, they kids would go to school and pay more attention in class. The adults would go to work and have less stress. And the elderly would be much more resilient against disease. They recover from disease faster. - Yes, it's called laugh club. - The laughing club of India, usually refers to Mira Nars, short documentary about Mumbai's early laughter club movement, not a single exclusive organization. The film follows groups who meet often in parks to stretching, clapping, breathing exercises, and deliberate group laughter as a social and stress relief practice. The movement was begun in Mumbai in 1995 by physician Dr. Madan Kataria. Its earliest meetings use jokes, but participants quickly shifted a laughter exercises when the jokes ran out, huh? - This is a movement you should start in the United States. - Hey, man, bro. We need some things. We need to feel inspired. And I don't mean, I don't even mean you, whoever's listening, I mean me. I mean, yeah, there's just, I don't know. I'm glad we're talking about it today. I do feel like there isn't awakening in some ways. And I do feel like, yeah, we have been stuck in this matrix. I've heard you talk before you leave. And thank you so much for your time today. - No, it was great, fantastic. - Really cool, man. - Yeah, thank you. - You know, I came with purpose, which is to tell the joke about my wife, and like the gay joke, and I've done that, so I'm good. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I've heard a lot of what we consume nowadays is very, there's huge filters on it. It's like the information that we get, what's allowed to come through. You know, I think we saw that after, like a lot of information came out about Gaza. It's like, now I don't see many videos about it anymore. - Yeah. - I think a lot of the, just, you know, there's a lot of strongholds on who has, who is letting information through to us. - That's right. - How do you, I've heard you talk about a propaganda test before, what's a propaganda test that you use to know if something is propaganda or not? - Yeah, so I think what's really important is for people to make predictions, because whenever we say something, we're making certain assumptions about the world. And so the way for us to know if the way we understand the world is correct or not, is by extending the logic and making predictions about how the world should turn out. And if it doesn't turn out the way that we predicted, then we should just reflect on how we think and make changes to ourselves. And I think the greatest problem in the world that we have today is gatekeeping. There's too much gatekeeping in media. No, there's too much gatekeeping in academics. So for example, I'm not really a professor, right? - You're not? - I'm not a professor. I'm a high school teacher. - Okay. - I don't have a PhD, right? - So just for honesty, okay? But that's just gatekeeping, like if you're not a college professor, you don't have a PhD, you're not a specialist, you don't get to be called a professor, okay? So there's just too much gatekeeping going on. I think that one way to improve our society is if experts are forced make predictions, because now we know how good their knowledge set is, right? And now it's democratic. Now it's not just like your Harvard PhD and therefore you know what you're doing. No one knows, like you are your work. - Yeah, exactly. - Show your work. - Bro, I like that. - Yeah, let's be democratic. - Yeah, a basketball player. It's like, you don't just believe he's good if he tells you. - That's right. - Or you believe he's good because he went to a lot of basketball camps. He's got to go do it. - Look, look at COVID, right? I mean, during COVID, we're at least vaccines. - Oh, dude, Anthony Fauci's a f***ing it, dude, that guy's it. - Look, look, look, he was like, how dare you question a science? We know better than you. We have your best interest in the hard. Just obey us. Trust the science, bro. - Yeah. - And I'll see it. And it's like, okay, fine, show me the science because. - Yeah. - You know? - Show me. - I know. It's the matrix, man. - Yeah. - I'm glad we got to meet at least here in the matrix. - Yeah, well, everything happens for a purpose. - Yeah, you know? And like, you know, I really respect what you do. You bring truth to the world through laughter. That's really the most powerful way of communicating. - Well, thank you, professors young. I appreciate it. Yeah, I just appreciate that, like, just interesting. I think one thing that is great about social media and technology is just the different people that you can bear witness to, you know? And different people that can get their voice out there. And I think it's great that you've developed a voice for yourself. What do your students think about it? What do they think about it in China? - So are you more popular here than in China? - I'm way more popular here than in China. People think I'm actually insane in China. - Why is it because you're brave that you put yourself out there? Is that a thing that doesn't happen very much in China where people kind of put like? - Yeah. So I think that a lot of things I say are dark. - Oh, yeah. - And so they would rather be ignorant. - Oh, I see. - Ignorance is bliss. - Yeah. It is, man. I used to be so ignorant, dude. And I was fucking doing great. - Yeah. - Absolutely. - Top is doing great, dude. - Yeah. But, you know, once you achieve full knowledge, you'll do it in better. - Oh, I'll never get there. - But, yeah. A little bit at a time, man. - It's always about the journey. - Yeah. - It's always about the journey, yeah. - Yeah. - Connecting with the people that you love, that's what God put us here for. That's why we're here. - That's right. Family. - We're here to have experiences that mean something. - Yes. - Yeah. Professor Zhang, thank you so much for your time today. Travel safe. How do you say goodbye in Chinese? - Zijian. - Zijian. - Yes. - Okay. Zijian. - Zijian. ♪ Now I'm just falling on the breeze ♪ ♪ And I feel I'm falling like these leaves ♪ ♪ I must be corner stoned ♪ ♪ Oh, but when I reach that ground ♪ ♪ I'll share this piece of mind ♪ ♪ I found I can feel it ♪ ♪ In my bones, I thought it's gonna take ♪