#67 - Carlos Quaremba - One Nation’s Fight to Fix South Australia

(upbeat music) - Hi guys, welcome back to Two World's Clive Podcast. On today's episode, we have Carlos Corrember. Victor Harbour, Councillor, one nation south Australian president and now the lead candidate for the Legislative Council in 2026. Carlos has been loud on cost of living, energy prices, housing and dismantling net zero. And he's definitely not one to back down from a fight. I hope you guys enjoy. - Yeah, but yeah, mate, we've had a last few days of being crazy. As you would have seen before, with all the trying to get through all the orders and that, but how many orders do you reckon you're doing a week? - Close to close to 150, something like that. - Wow. - Yeah, at the moment. - So you have stock or do you have to? - We've just got a whole bunch of stock in, that will tie us over for all the orders. So we'll hopefully have them all out by this weekend. - Yeah. - But we get all, I get average, 10 to 20 orders a day. - Yeah, right. - And look right now, the merch program is keeping this thing running, but I think in a few months, six months, my ad revenue will keep the program running. Is that what normally happens with these things? - Yeah. - The merch starts things off. It goes really good. And then the merch dies down. And as your platform gains a lot of momentum, both on Facebook and YouTube and Rumble, the ones that pay, the ad revenue generally takes over. - Do you reckon that censorship stuff's gonna kick in, though, where you won't be able to generate? - I don't know, do you reckon they'll try and hit you? - Yeah, it's already happened. - Yeah, right. - Yeah, so they've taken away, they took away my earnings on an episode with Dr. Ian Plymla. - Oh, you're Plymla, yeah, yeah. - Or Plymla. Yeah, so they took away my ad revenue earning on that. So that's one way that they silently suppress people because they say, "Well, next time you talk up against that, and I don't wanna say that." - That. - The next time you talk up against that, we'll take your earnings away from you. So don't talk about that again on your podcast. - Because you're using the word. So you almost have to come up with another word for a recipe. - Well, take it, speak in tongues or something. - Yeah, and but Alex Antig said it perfectly a few weeks ago, the right, a self-sensory out of fear of being silenced and silenced and censored. And when you get to my level, and you start to make money off what you're doing, you know, it now becomes the feeding source for my family. - Oh, yeah. - And I'm just so thankful that my Patreon program and my merch program is unreal. If I didn't have those two programs, I would probably have to go out and I would have to get sponsors for this podcast and I would have to put a whole bunch of ads in all my stuff. And when you do that, you get controlled. Because those people come out and be like, "Yeah, you can say that, but you can't say this." So I'm gonna pull my sponsorship if you say that. That's why every single time someone has come at me to try and put ads in this podcast. And even if they have aligned a certain bit with me, I've always went, sorry, now I'm not gonna have that money. I'll rather build what I've built in off. - Your own blood sweat tears. - Yeah. - No control from anybody else. - So that's why the Patreon program, so good, 'cause I have a $5, 10, $5, 10, and $20 subscription. I have people sign up to it every single day. And they don't get anything extra out of what I do. They just pay me because they like my voice. And this is, like those guys out there, thank you so much for joining up to my Patreon program because it makes me, or it just gives me the free time to be able to do what I need to do without having to work another job or something like that. So this is my job now with yours. People can see it as almost like a Netflix subscription. You know, you're paying for entertainment, you're paying for, you know, but it's probably more than that. You're paying someone to say the things that you're thinking, but you just don't have the platform or, which is partly I think what some politicians are, you know. It's like, I've been speaking to a lot of people when I've been traveling around the state and listening a lot to the problems that are going on. And one thing that I wanna do moving forward is make sure that these people get a platform, get an opportunity to speak. You may not agree with what they have to say, but at the same time, give them the opportunity to talk and then debate them and the best debate will win. But silencing them or making them sound like they don't appear or is the worst thing we can do. We start shutting people down, you know. I think it was Charlie Kirk said, when the words stop the violence start. - It's like that. - It's like exactly. And it's like exactly what is happening over in New South Wales at the moment with the NSN went out and they lobbied or they stood in front of the Parliament House and you know, how I was saying, let's stop Jewish lobbying. And then the New South Wales government is coming out trying to silence their speech and then at the same time, they're deporting one of the guys back to South Africa. Yet they still let Afghan immigrants run around and sexually assault 15-year-olds. - I saw that. - And those avoid. They avoid getting kicked out of the country. But what the problem with the New South Wales government, they don't realize, the more you try to suppress these guys, the bigger they get. - Of course. - Do you know the one way that they can beat them? Turn the fucking country around, stop importing mass amounts of people. - Don't give them fuel to the fire. - How about you just fix the country? - The reason they have risen up over the past five or six years is because kids, young men, have been told by their government that they are useless, that they are danger to society. - That's the most skillinity. - Yup, and that they are white supremacists if they stand up against immigration. Like this is all this does when governments like try and come out and they try and silence their voices. Like don't silence their voice, debate them on your ideas and tell us why your ideas are better than theirs. Tell me that because at the end of the day, if we sit here and we silence them in 1930s, the Nazis got one person in department, then they got two, then they got four, then they got eight, 16, 32, - And just expanded. - Then they ran over the place. It's like, and what did they try to do to the Nazi party? They tried to silence them for a person and do anything. So you have to, in this day and age, even though it's those guys, like you said, you have to debate them on their ideas. - Yeah. - It's gonna get a little hot in here, so. I'm gonna grab a hold of 'em. - Yeah, start of getting nagging out. A little warm, so I had to turn the air coin on. But mate, you're down in Victor Harbour. - Yeah, so I've got a property down in Eman Valley, which I call God's country. - Beautiful. - It's amazing, rolling hills. What a small, I mean, on a big property, a small property, but we're surrounded by a thousand acre cattle farm. And the best thing about it, I think, is I don't see any climate action now. Post is anywhere, but plenty of Aussie flags, actually funny enough. I'll put one up when we moved out there, and I love driving up that driveway and seeing that. That just, it's like I'm home now. - The movement, there's a movement happening, isn't it? This Australian flag movement. - Yeah. - You're seeing Australian flags everywhere. - Yeah. - Not enough. - Yeah, I've definitely not enough, but I think there's so much patriotism coming back over the last year. - Yeah. - I reckon. The country's starting to turn around and be more patriotic, because everyone's getting pissed off. - Oh, pissed off is an understatement. I think there's an underlying current of, we've been told, she'll be right, okay? But it won't be. And I think people are now starting to see and say, "Shit, if we don't stand up, what's it gonna look like?" I mean, the craziness of the PC woke nonsense that's coming on now. I was only listening to the radio yesterday morning. So, and they were talking about a basketball club, who I think was under 12s. The team that had been winning all year round, young kids, obviously really good at what they do, have now been precluded for playing in the finals, because the club said it's unfair that they were smashing all the other clubs. It's this breeding of weakness that is permeating through all levels of government, schools, society, just this, it's insidious. It's out of control. - Yeah, they're trying to breed kids to just always be winners. And unfortunately, you don't lose, you don't learn anything from winning all the time. - No. - Yeah, like the only time I've learned it's real hard things in life is when I've lost big time. - I remember one of my first mentors, he used to run a company that bought and sold alcohol to nightclubs. And he said to me, he said, "When you make $100,000 on a steak, it'll stop you from making a million dollar mistake down the road." And I've never forgotten what he said and how he said it and what it meant. I've learnt more from my mistakes than from my successes. And we're taking that toughness out of kids. You know? I was like, I'm a single father, my 16 year old daughter. She was going to private school, good school, wasn't doing too well at school. And not 'cause she's not smart, it just wasn't right. Wasn't a good fit. And we had some discussions and she said, you know, what are my options, dad? And I said, well, you've got two. If you're gonna leave school, you either become a tradie or you become a tradie. All right, that's it. That's it. I'm not having you work at some job where you're gonna just waste three or four years before you kind of, like go and get a trade, okay? And then at the end of that, you've got something that can at least sustain yourself and your family down the track and you're generating income. And she loves it. She's about to get signed up as an apprentice Tyler and gets up in the morning, 5.30 every morning. She's been doing 11 hour days. You know, by the time she gets home, loves it. - Nice. - But I think parents have to stand up and be parents again. You know, that's gonna be hard because it's also the parents that are the problem as well. - Yeah, I had a ed Schiller in here last week and he described to me a massive problem in the education system that it's federally driven down. - Oh yeah. - So a lot of their stuff is not coordinated from parents, individual areas and schooling, principles. All the federal curriculum is passed down on to states and they're told what to teach. - Yeah. - You really want that one source of truth coming down from the government. - Yeah. - And then you want zero consultation from the parents and the teachers about what we're teaching these kids and they push back. - Yeah, and if you push back, they'll call you a racist, a homophobic, a bigot. - I heard it all before, mate. - It's like, - But Sam, these are words, okay? You've been to a battleground. Words don't, you know, if the enemy was just thrown words at, yeah, you'd be like, whatever. You've seen bullets, right? People have got to stop being fearful of words, okay? Need to stand up and go. Not interested. Here are the facts. We are going backwards in the education system. Our kids are coming out of school, not understanding how to read or write, arithmetic, the basics, right? No civics. You know, I remember going to school. I don't think I'm that old, but I remember going to school. And Monday morning assembly, we had the Australian anthem play. And I never, when I was young, I never kind of got it until a little bit later on, and I went, that is the start of my week. This is the country that I'm in. And that's gone. We want to, I want to bring that back. That sense of unity under one flag, one culture, you know? I'm an immigrant, right? My parents, you know, they came here from Argentina back in '77. - South America. - Yeah. And mate, there was some shit going on over there that would make people's toes curl. - Look Italian. - Yeah, well, descend from Italian, you know? But Argentinian, right? So fiery blood, you know, very loud when I talk, and a lot of people get put off by that. And that's cool, but I'm not going to change. I'm 50 made. I'm, this dog ain't changing his tricks, right? - Yeah. - So, but I've gotten to this point by, from mistakes, and from being around people long enough to know that you could have your wits around you, because if you don't, people will take advantage of you. - Mm-hmm. - And this is what I'm seeing, and it's part of the reason I'm doing what I'm doing, obviously running with the party, is I see voters are getting taken advantage of, but because we're allowing it to happen, right? I've heard so many times, you know, I go to a speaking event and, you know, people yell at, "Oh, politicians are all clowns." That might be so, but who provides the circus? - Mm-hmm. - Every election. Blue, red. Blue, red, you know? Like if you went to a restaurant and the meal was shit, and you went another restaurant and the meal was shit, would you go back to the first restaurant where the meal was shit, or would you look something different? - Mm-hmm. - It's just this, yeah. - You only have to look at who are the donors after the two big parties to realize there is no voting. It doesn't add a, they're both going to have mass immigration. Do you hear the other day, there was Ben Fordhand came out with, oh, this is going to really, you know, get people back on the coalition side. - 100,000? - They're going to drop immigration by 100,000. - Yeah. - So this year, we're about to take in 550,000. - Yeah. - The largest intake on record. - Yeah. - And you're going to drop that to 450,000. - Yeah. - And that's going to turn everyone back to the coalition and be like, awesome, because that 450,000 will be the third highest ever intake on record. - I know. They're going to go back to you? - I think when you had Malcolm on, I think he called him two cheeks at the same asshole. When I hear that, I think of this country and I think you've discussed this before, manage decline. - Oh, you're wearing it. - Yeah. - This is what Jim Charles is doing perfectly. - Yeah. And so I use analogies, because it's a lot easier for me to get things across to people that don't understand politics. And by no stretch of the imagination of my politician, but I understand the basics of what goes on. We are on the Titanic, okay? Labor is full steam ahead into the iceberg. They're saying there is no iceberg, it doesn't exist. And the best the Liberal Party can do is move everybody to the back of the boat. Right? I'm sitting here, guys, we gotta get out here. We are the, we've got to move and go in a different direction because these two are going to run this country into the ground. And you saw, I think, the minute that a Liberal slash conservative gets up, what do they do? Get rid of them. It's happening, it happened in Victoria with Baton. It's happened in, you know, they're looking to do it in New South Wales. - I've seen that, a spilling New South Wales coming up. - Yeah, well, seems a bit coordinated, doesn't it? - Seems a bit coordinated. - And I've spoken to, because obviously we're gaining a lot of members and a lot of members are coming from the Liberal Party. And there's a lot of that are still, and I've got good friends with the Liberal Party, right? That our true Conservatives, I'm like, oh, is that what point do you just go, we're done, we're out of here? Because they don't listen to you when you vote in your councils and all the other stuff that you do. They take their own policies. Rank and file members here in South Australia said they want out a net zero. So what's Tazia do? Last yesterday, I heard him on the radio. Now, we're full steam ahead. Week in Ciput. - The issue with the Liberals, there's a whole bunch of till and green plants called moderates. And those moderates have been placed in there since Turnbull, and they have destroyed the Liberal Party and turned it into a radical left party. - Yeah. - That only talks out against stuff to do with Israel because they're funded by a jack. - Yeah. - And it's like, I mean, they only recently came out and opposed net zero, but they didn't get out of the Paris agreement today. - They haven't opposed anything, mate. I've got said to you, mate, although done is moved everybody to the back of the Titanic. They're not serious. If you are serious, you get out of Paris, you get out of the UN, any connections to the WEF, any of those other three-letter agencies that do not give a rat's ass about Australia. Right? You've said this so many times, Australia and Australia first. The hardest thing is going to be to convince people that that is the best thing for them because unfortunately a lot of voters still don't get it. - I heard a very interesting thing the other day where I read an article about, just into Alan came out and said, I have my new laws that I want to bring in, adult time for adult crime. - Yeah. - And I read an article saying, the treaty process that they just signed is now going to contest with the government about the adult crime for adult time. - Of course. - Guess who the treaty was organized by the UN. - Yeah. - So the UN have got their sticky fingers into governments now on a third layer of government. The treaty process is called the UN Drip. It was organized by the UN and the UN now own a third party layer government within the Victorian government. Like you want to know why they got that UN treaty process in? - Why? - So the UN could have part of the government because they could run part of the government and they're the ones that are opposed the adult time for adult crime laws. That just in and on wants to bring in. - Yeah. - So she's talking about something she's not going to be able to get across the line. - Because of the treaty process. - Correct. - Because it's run by the UN. - And the UN have got their fingers in a lot of pice. You know, I think they're going to take, I think, Mary, what they're going to take the government to call to something over new gas fields that we're trying to generate and they're going to put in a thing to say, no, you can't happen. I think it's one of the first times this actually happened. But we still have politicians and people on the right you know, still thinking that they can be part of the UN. And you know, we need to sit at the table because we can, we'll be able to vote. We'll be able to see, you're out. It's cooked. Get out. - They are not Australia first. They are Australia last. - Yeah. - And I will fight up to defend that now these days. I always say to myself, my days and war are over. But the more I do this, the more I realize our politicians don't work for us. The system needs to be broken down, to reconstruct it and rebuild, brick by brick. And you know who aren't doing them for us, the Labor and the Liberal Party, I can guarantee you that right now. And this is what I keep telling everyone, like it's an us first them mentality. And if the people have the movement, political parties, they can jump on board with that movement. - Correct. - It has to be us first them. - Yeah. like, and them at the moment is labor and liberal. And unfortunately, you know, at least with labor, you know what they stand for. - Oh, shit, shit. - You know, with liberals, it could be, it doesn't matter who you talk to, you just don't know, you could be talking to a conservative, they'll say one thing, and then you could be talking to a moderate, they say another thing. - Yeah. - That's why the party is just, it is just losing members left, right, and center. Vincent Tarzi is about to get destroyed in the essay, in the essay election. And you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna say it. The essay, liberal party, have been told, members, have been told by whatever the board is in the essay liberal party. They are not to come on this podcast, 'cause I'm too right-wing. I contacted Vincent Tarzi, right, who he reached out to a friend of mine and said, "I wouldn't mind getting on the stands podcast." So I reached out to him and said, "You can come on my podcast, "but just get ready for some tough questions." He said, "Yup, I'll organize with my team." I spoke out against the moderates a few days later, haven't heard boo-back. - But this is the thing, right? - And like I was more than willing to give the liberal party an essay, my platform, to help them go against a juggernaut, Peter Mellon-Askis, who has majority of the vote here, whether we like it or not, he has majority of the vote here, and I was gonna help him out, get them to use my platform and do it. And then they say, "Sams to right-wing." - But what I can say, this is an interesting-- - You just shot yourself in the foot. - And so why not come here and debate you on their views? - Exactly right. - Why not come here and say, "Look, Sam, "we don't agree what you're saying." And these are the prints, this is what we, because, and I'll tell you why they can't, because deep down I think they know that what they are pushing is bullshit, right? And when someone fronts up to them, like yourself or other people or myself, and we go, "That's bullshit." They got nowhere to go, because it's not bound, when you debate someone, you have to kind of start off on a set of principles that you agree on, factual things. So they're not gonna come on here, because they can't back it up with facts. All it is is emotion. It's fear, and so now I think all those things that they used to call us, racist and right-wing and everything, those things now don't mean anything, because there's no fact of or strength behind with their argument, it's now people are just like, had a gutful, and they are bleeding supporters, they are bleeding supporters to us and other parties, because I'll can tell you one thing, I've had, I actually had an interview when I was at a rally with the ABC presenter, and it never went to air, and she was talking about, you know, how, you know, why are these people marching in what they're doing, and you know, do you think it's a protest, and I said, no, it's a celebration of Australia. I sort of differently, it's not a, I just sort of is a celebration of what it means to be Australian, hanging out, I was yoszy, I was yoszy, you know, things I grew up with, and she said to me, she said, so tell us, you're obviously, your polling is going through the roof. And this was the ABC, mind you. She said, so what's changed with one nation? I was sort of paused for a second, and I went, we think about that. Nothing, nothing has changed. We've been saying the same thing for 30 years. It's now that people are now starting to wake up. Their bullshit meter has been switched on, and they're not going to put it up with any more. Maybe that's probably why the interview didn't get on. You know, yeah, we'll, Paul Enhancer, we're saying this years ago, back in the late 90s, she's like, you got to be careful where you're importing people from. Early 2000s, you got to be careful where you're importing people from. 2015, we're, hey, we got to pull back on the immigration, and they slandered a race to this bigger Nazi, all this stuff. - Your name, and they still do it. They still do. - You know, the good thing now is that they're with their actual Nazis there. So when someone calls me a Nazi, I'm like, you know, I'm just there, they're the Nazis. - Yeah, yeah, I think you, yeah. That's what I'm saying. These words now just, the average punter now is just gone. Yeah, now I've heard this shit before. I'm done. Like, give me something tangible. Debate me. - Yeah, well, when you, and in debating, and this is what I've learned from getting debate training, we want to resort to a level of empathy, or they do the emotional argument, or they do the name calling argument, you've won the debate. - Yeah. - So once they start calling you to those words, they just can't debate you back. - Yeah, and that, I mean, there's probably some level of debate still to be had with the Liberal Party, but the Labor Party now are just so in a different plane, they're not even like, you know, they can't understand, they can't explain what a woman is for crying out loud. How they gonna debate you about anything to do with anything about women, when you can't even identify the basis of your argument. Like, that's just now you're not even on the same frequency. There's no point now. - Mm. And we're in a phase where politicians are just so, they're so used to lying now that it becomes such a normal thing. For example, Jim Charm has came out today and said, "Oh, we've got a wage growth in this country of 0.2%, and it's like, Jim, wages are back at 2011 levels." - Yeah. - That's a fact. And we're at 2025 inflation. - Yeah. - What are you celebrating? - Yeah, and they talk about inflation, you know, like it's coming down. They don't talk about the percentage that's already increased and we're just back at this little level now. It's like, okay, so like, no, we've been smashed. Right, our wages are gone down. Housing is like, I think I only heard today that median house price in Adelaide is over a million dollars. - First time ever. - Like, I don't think people really grasp that there is no actual benefit in house prices actually going up. I'm yet to find an economist, anybody who can actually tell me, what is the benefit? Because at the end of the day, you're buying and selling in the same market. The only way you're going to benefit is if you've bought ages ago and you might have multiple properties. Your stamp duty is more expensive. Your council rate's a more expensive. We have all this money tied up in this Ponzi scheme and all we are doing is shutting out a generation. I've got a 16 year old daughter. I'm thinking I've built a house that we like a little house that we share. I'm not going to give it to her. She's going to have to buy it off me. But I know that the only way she's going to end up with a roof over her head. And you've got a young daughter. I mean, what's happening? We are killing off a generation of aspiration with our decisions. And both parties have come out unequivocally and said when they've asked about house prices coming down, they've both come out and said, we don't want house prices to come down. We still want them to increase at a sustainable, manageable level. How do you become sustainable and manageable when you're already well out of the budget? Because you don't know why. Because lobbyists control the two big parties. Let me give you an example. I think Pete investments, I think, they're called that. Not too sure. They have 300 million or something under their belt. They have something like 30,000 homes that they land bank in Australia. You think they're going to let the labor and liberal party crush their housing market? There you go. And guess who our politicians answer to? Not you and I, my friend. Oh, no. It is to the lobbyists. That's why I always say that you want to fix the government, ban lobbying. Oh, yeah. Ban lobbying. Well, actually, there's a few other things. This is one of the things like, you know, and if I'm lucky enough to be elected, one of the bills that I want to bring in is basically a bill that says exactly who I meet with every day, a breakdown of what we spoke about. So like my, basically my diary, and that gets posted and published. Now, if anybody's happy, not happy with the-- On an open platform? Yeah, yeah, so you can, every anyone can do that. Anybody can look at it. Because in the day, I'll be being paid by the taxpayer. Right? And I know what it's like to be a taxpayer because I'm one now. And I'm sick and tired of seeing my taxes getting pissed up a wall by these people. They go around like they're saving the world. You know, like, Mal and Niasco's has been handing out money, hand over fist, for all these things. And everybody's like, oh, how great is he? Of course, you're great when it's not your money, you know? You don't know how much he spent on advertising for the Labor Party over the last two years? 140 million is something like that, yeah. 140 million. If you're doing such a good job, why do you need to spend 140 million people telling, yeah, dollars telling what people what you've been doing? Just imagine where that 140 million could go over to you. $70 million a year. No, you don't even scratch on the surface of the money that gets wasted at like, at all levels of government. Yeah. All levels of government. We wouldn't even need to raise any taxes. We just need to become, you've got two sides of the ledger. You've got the tax side and you've got the cost side. Right? I run a business. I know how this works. You can't keep raising taxes to keep paying for incompetency. You've got to start attacking this. And there is a big black hole, right? That I call the bureaucracy black hole. Because when you think about it, it's the most basic element. The government's tax and redistribute to different things that we and they think is important. Roads, hospitals, whatever it is. But in the middle, there's this. It goes from A to everything else. In the middle, there's this thing called B, the black hole of bureaucracy. And it just sucks the money. Right? Bit by bit and it's getting bigger. Like a cancer, it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. There's more and more people, you know, checking on people, coming up legislation. And every time they do this, it's getting harder and harder and harder. We need to unwind that. And no government. government, no government has the balls to do that because I don't know if you know these people we elect to run the state, they're not really running shit, it's the people behind that and they've been there for generations. Explain that to me. So you've got all the bureaucrats. So when you see Malin Askers talking, you see a whole bunch of people behind him and they're all nodding their head, they're the ones pulling the strings, he's just the talking piece, he might have a little bit of sway here or there, they're actually running the state, it's those people and you know how I know it's those people. Generally on a job site, the guy owning the most money is the one running the show, right? Would you agree? You've got bureaucrats that are over million dollars. You don't know their names. They get in a bucked million. There are over a million dollars some of these people. This is what I'm saying, the black hole bureaucracy people, they're faceless, you don't get to elect them, okay? At least in the US, when the president comes in, he gets to a point, I think it's like up to 10,000 people. So when one government comes in, they get rid of that and they bring in their people. Here, they're beliber, they're beliber, the puppet masters here, they don't know if they're still the same. You don't know who they are. You might hear about them when they go into senate estimates and things of that nature, but other than that, you don't know who they are. I wonder what foreign influence they have over them as well. That's a good question. Maybe we should make a bill that actually then says that all these public, all these people now have to declare any interest that they have. But you didn't even know about them. That's what I said to you. I always knew that there were bureaucrats, but I thought they worked directly for the MPs. No, no, no, no. So the bureaucrats run basically. So you've got the departments, you know, health, education, then you've got a whole tier of people and then you've got like the teachers and the people actually do the work. Now you've got the fat in the middle. Right? That fat's getting bigger, sloppier. So I call them the trough. You know, they're the snouts in the trough and those trough is getting bigger and those snouts are getting bigger and they're just sucking the life out of what's going on. One would suggest as well and on money putting the pieces here together that MPs go into jobs after lobbying jobs because they have the phone numbers of the bureaucrats, the lawmakers. It's a good revolving circle. It's a scratching the back, you know. You know, I always think to myself, right? How did we let ourselves get so corruptible in a democracy? Like are we even really like are we in a democracy at the moment? Well, I mean, the the the the the the the the sheer fact that we allowed the vote is a democracy on and I would see I would challenge that with with what's happening in South Australia at the moment with the new law that PNML now says is brought in. Now I've spoken about this time and time again. Yeah. Of the you can't take any political donations over $5,000. No, there's there's look and I'm starting to understand that law. Like it's been a big learning curve. Trust me, I'm not a lawyer and all these laws are written by lawyers. There are ways of getting money to a party and I'm not going to be quoted here, but there are ways of getting money to a party for administrative funding. But we now get money from the from the rate pay, oh, from the rate pay, from the taxpayer to not run our party, but to campaign. Yeah. So you do, for example, so one nation has a foothold. Yes. Liberal has a foothold and Labour has a foothold and your funding goes off your last elections results. We choose, yeah, there's two models of funding, but yeah, off the last election. Yeah. So let's say Labour has 65% of the vote. They've got millions, but they've got money outside of what they got from that as well. They have investments and things like that nature. So for example, if I tried to start a grassroots movement, I would still be capped at $5,000 if I tried to start a new party because I wouldn't have access to any funds. Yeah. But you can spend up to $75,000 per candidate individually, you could as a candidate, right? Okay. But can I take that? Not from the government. No, but if they're capped at $5,000, is that per donation? It's not donations. It's like your own personal money. If you wanted to become like a candidate, you can spend up to $75,000 of your own money. What does it say where that money is coming from? It's got to come from you, like I can't come from anybody else. And look, and yeah, and so you've got to have money. Look, I think what they try to do with this law is they tried to cut out the teals and the clive parmers and they sort of things right. And the minor parties as well, but it is a stitch up because both parties agreed to this right. And they call it, you know, we're bringing, I think they try to call it, you know, integrity or, you know, stop the groundbreaking bulls. Yeah. Well, it's never, no one in the world has done this before. But mind you, right? Not even the electoral commission really know how this is going to work out. It's a bit of a suck and see scenario here. So, but and I was thinking about this because it is difficult, right? But money doesn't always buy messaging, right? Because you think about this. If money bought you an election, clive parmerum in the country, right? So I still have to come back to the simple fact and I don't agree with what they've done, but I still have to come to the back to the fact that if your message, if your ability to debate, present an argument and convince people is strong enough, then the only thing I would need you back is how many people you can talk to. So they've got the money to spend through advertisement, but platforms like this, social media, I mean, even me, like when I started this, just going back nearly four years, five years, I remember my first as a candidate the first time I ran in the state of fitness. And I remember getting up in front of a crowd for the first time and nervous as shit. I don't like talking to people. I'm pretty introvert, I like to kind of keep them myself. I'm up there and I started talking about something. I came in what it was and I started crying, right? I met mind you, my apprentice had only died an hour or a week earlier in a car accident and I just started thinking about him and I felt a bit. Now put me in front of a crowd and a microphone. I wanted to debate every single person and I want to convince them of my point and I will not stop until they are. And that's all I've been doing around is just going from suburb to suburb, speaking event to speaking event, talking to people, listening and debating. And every time I do that I get better and better at it. Okay, debating is a nut. I love it. I love it. But what I'm saying is, if your message is good enough, look at what you're doing. People are resonating with what you're doing and you start it off with two microphones and an idea. They can't stop that. They're not much money they've got and they're not much censorship they do. And now it's getting to the point where they're more they sense you, the more you're just going to grow. Yeah, the more they do campaigns against me and it happens all the time now, the bigger things get. Yeah, bigger things get. And that is an indication that the public is ready for change. Right. Because if they weren't, they'd just go, who's this guy and whatever. But that is an indication of change because you are saying something, people are engaging and they're going getting drawn to it. You know what they're doing now is they're coming after my followers. So whenever my followers reach there, my stuff on Facebook or Instagram, they get shadow banned or taken off Instagram for a week. Yeah, this happened. I've had a whole bunch of people message me about this saying I've just came back from a three day Facebook in jail time or Instagram time for people sharing my stuff. So they can't come after me because I will weaponize it against them. Of course. But they can come after they can come after my followers. I appreciate a couple of you think. And look, I'm not a massive social media person. I think I've got, I've just started up a page as a, you know, for the party. It will as me. And I think I've got like 40 or 9 or 50 followers. Right. Most of them are friends. So I'd have to wear a big bed shadow band. You get a few after I collaborate with you on Sunday night. But I guess the thing is, and I keep saying this and it was funny because the guy that sort of be my mentor when it comes to politics, he said to me, he goes, he goes, I watch you talk to people and you actually want to just talk and debate and listen. And he said, if there was some way we could do that for a million people in South Australia, be run in the state. I said, well, let's work on that. Let's work on that because I'll debate anybody about anything. I would love to moderate a debate between you and Peter Malone and Ascus about the state of South Australia. Actually, I didn't come close, but I was actually at a country cabinet meeting. So the government would go around the country areas and speak to people in the community, tell them what they, how good they are and everything. And I was the last person to ask a question. And my question was, because I obviously, a local council, my question was to him is I said, listen, we've just had to have a vote to take away someone's home because they hadn't paid rates. They had been delinquent. I said to him, can you please just change the law so the councils don't have that opportunity to do that? And he sort of looked at me and he's like, well, you asked me to do something. You're already voted on and I said, yeah, I am. I'm pleading with you as a human being. Take this away from councils. Don't give them that mechanism to do that. Then you won't have to worry about the outcome. You guys make the laws. Oh, you know, and I knew all his advisers up the back, they're setting in text messages of what to say, right? And I just looked at him and said, please, just do it. Silence. Just next question. Who is that? Bell and Oscars. He's, I would love to have him on this podcast and debate him. I reached out to him when I was small. not too long ago, but I would reach out to him again, but I just know that he knows it's too much risk. - Oh, no, no, no. - 'Cause he's got nothing to lose. - Well, you're room's too small, you wouldn't have had all the advises in you. - Yeah, that's right, that's right. But there's too much risk for him because he's smashing in the polls. Like why does he need to come out and expose himself to that risk of coming on my podcast and me picking him to beat? - Let me tell you what's gonna make him undone. And it's not gonna be the Liberal Party because they're useless. His own party's gonna bring him undone because the left side of the Liberal Party are running the country. - Right. - He came out, this is early in the piece, I think, about nuclear energy when that got brought up. And he said, "I'd be interested in looking at that." - You know why? - It's South Australia has a great issue. - It's because he's running in proletes. - The proletes. - So he's seeking, there's a buck to be made here. - How can I? - There is a big buck to be made here. - There's a free buck to be made as well. - There's a big buck to be made here. The very next day, the Prime Minister was asked about what do you think of your minister in South Australia? Oh no, that's not gonna happen. And so there, at that point, he could have turned around and said, "Well, I respectfully disagree with the Prime Minister. I'm gonna put South Australia first." - But he didn't. - Nope. - Because South Australia has the greatest Uranian deposits. - 100%. - You wanna know where the US gets its Uranium from? - And rearms their nuclear arsenal. They do that with South Australia's Uranium. - Yep. - Not many people know that. - Yeah. - But they do go check the contracts. Go Google or GROC or ChatGDP, the silent contracts of where our Uranium is deposited out of. And where do they go to? - Oh. - They go to the US. And they say it's not for nuclear power, but guess what happens? Once it goes into the US, we're not allowed to know what they do with it. - We're not gonna know. - We're not gonna know what they do. So we here allow our Uranium to rearm the nuclear arsenal over in America. And we don't even tax it when it leaves our state. And it goes to their bombs. - It's nuts. - It's like. - It's nuts. - And yeah, I've always um. - But yeah, that one blows my mind. - Talkin' about resources, right? And I think about this. And I struggled and no one's been able to ask me this. And you might be able to answer this. But how is it? We have a country which is the land mass of the US. Basically 1/11th, the population. We've got more resources in this country than we could ever hope to have. Ever. Right? And yet we have the most expensive power. Our standard of living is falling. We can't get into hospitals. Housing is a shit show. Schools are falling down. I don't know about you, but I'm starting to think that the government doesn't really like us. Yeah, we've been economically mismanaged since 2005 even earlier. So let's push that even further another step. How has that happened? Because of lobbyists, they want us addicted to debt. Who buys our debt? Yeah. Who buys our debt? BlackRock. BlackRock. Yeah, super. Who controls the country? Yeah. No, you think it's our bubble pool in the streets? No, no. But even like, okay, so I understand what you're saying. And I don't disagree with you. 100%. But how has that happened? Right? Because we're in a democracy. We have elections. Foreign offshore bank accounts connected to politicians. Yeah, but the vote. Other votes. The vote. The voter. Why is the voter so apathetic? Right? And I was speaking to one of my candidates. Because we've been fed garbage for the years for years and years. That's how they. Hardly? Yeah, and they do it. And then they indoctrinate our kids in schools. Yeah. And they like to give us an option. At the polling booth. Yeah, yeah. There's no option. No. The same thing. That's why the two party system is the way it is, right? And like, for a while there, you know, we used to sort of try and keep the liberal party honest. And there's been a change in one nation to say, you're done. We're done with you. You're not interested in actually being in opposition. We are now going to step into that position. And that's why people are now gone. You know, the last federal election, we released policies early, budgeted policies, common sense policies. And people went, "Shit, there's another option." The biggest thing now is the media. Because they're united as well. I'm not interested now. They are, you know, they do not want this whole thing to change. Because it's all about control. If we only have to deal with two parties, we know who the masters are. We just play the tune and everything's all good. Again, the bosses. Who has majority control sharing in the media companies. And then we go again. And around and around we go. And then who has media, who has like a control share and a debt? Yeah. It's the same people. I can't and I understand everything you're saying. But I will not give up on trying to change that. And that's the attitude we need to have. Because if people give up, you know what's going to happen in 10, 15, 20 years? We're screwed. A revolution is going to happen. Well, yeah, that's the other side. The equation is. The anime and like, hey, everyone's calling for it. And I don't know if you see dead bodies before. Trust me, I'd rather try to. No. I'd rather try and vote our way out of this. I would rather. Yeah, exactly. Then have a seat. And so I think that's important. That's what you're doing. What other podcasts are doing. What other forms of social media. And just conversations with people. Like I have conversations all the time, every opportunity I get to talk about politics and where we're going and what the problems are. And how we can fix them, right? Because this is the one thing I've noticed, right? So when I go out of these speaking events, this is generally what happens. I introduce myself. If I've got someone with me, one of the other candidates have a bit of a chat about what's going on, what we plan to do. And then I kind of open it up to the floor. Okay? And then what happens is, the next 15, 20 minutes, it's just people absolutely going off. This is like, that's like, they're doing this, they're doing that. I said, right, okay. We got that out of our system. Everybody had their bit. Right. How do we fix it? What are we going to do to fix it? Because I guarantee you, especially when you go to the areas, regional areas or small communities, they know what the problems are. But sure, shit, they know what the answers are too. They just never get listened to you. So I say, and I'll say this to my boys on the work side, come to me with a problem, come to me with a solution, and let's work on it. So I say, what is the solution? Well, we get into this. I said, great. Now what we need to do is, is work out how to fund it. What's it going to cost? Is it going to be long term? So it should be as simple as that, realistically. Like being a politician, I think should be one of the easiest jobs in the world. Right. Because if you actually listen to the people, they'll tell you what they want. All you need to do is go, well, a variation of that, always going to work, or not quite that, or, yep, that's a good idea. And then get the bureaucrats, remember, those people, to implement. But it doesn't happen that way. It's the tail, wagging the dog. And I've experienced that first hand in local government. Let's talk about that. Because I'm really interested. You've got a few bits of piece of paper in front of you. Yes. And I want you to highlight to the cameras where I'll hold it up. So these are local government documents that you've received. No, so this is, this is, one of them is from the local council, down at Alexander and the council. So neighboring council. Right. So I've got what they call the sustainable, global sustainable goals. Right. So this is the UN. Hold that a bit closer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, you can see. So that's the UN document. Then you've got the World Economic Forum document. Okay. Here's the kicker's hand. This is the local council of Alexanderina. Where's that located? Right. Well, right down in Victor Harbour. So next to Victor Harbour, it's got Google, Strathalban. So South of Adelaide. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they copied it and pasted it. But who in local council had the foresight to go on to either the World Economic Forum website or the UN and then use that as what we're going to do in local council? What has that got to do with rates, roads and rubbish? Okay. I'll tell you what, zero. This is people pushing agendas. You're a craft's pushing agendas. Right. And I don't know if you'll probably actually, when this comes out, yeah, we've been talking about it. So three mayors, one from Mitchem City Council. On Krablinga Council. Yeah. And Adelaide Council. Flu all the way over to COP 30 or whatever number it's up to now. In Brazil. In Climate. In Climate. Yeah. What are they doing there? Interesting. Right. So it was funny because they're going over there to try and understand how to make society better at a council level. Now, and I've been very clear about this. A lot of the, all the time on council is, we need to keep within our purview. Rates, roads and rubbish. These people now think that councils aren't no longer about rates and roadbrems. They're about bigger things now. We need to save the planet. Okay. So they're using taxpayer and rate pay money to do this. The mayor from Mitchem City Council is also the president of the LGA, which is a local government association. That's another story altogether. Unelected bureaucrats. She was on the radio. Mate, I'm going to play that interview and it's going to blow your mind. The level of hubris and self-importance that woman has is out of control. Now, Ganty, what I've just said will land me in trouble. I'll get a co-to conductor, a complaint lodged against me. Right? I'm done, I don't care. I've had too many of them now to even, I'll wear them as a badge of honor. Okay. That's what they do to silence you. Right? When you speak out against the narrative. The interview was a train wreck. She got annihilated by the interviewer. The icing on the cake, at the end of the interview, the interviewer said, "So did you even, you know, what do you say it was, did you do the carbon offset?" You know, when you buy a ticket and on an airline ticket, and it's the bottom-up, you tick that our carbon analysis goes, "What's that?" So here's a woman who's just spent Ray Payne money to travel around the world, to talk about saving the planet. And she doesn't even know how to do carbon offsets on a plane ticket. It's a joke, absolutely joke. The level of self-intitlement of these people is sickening. And this is rife through all councils. They're all pushing agendas, got nothing to do with the Ray Payne. Rates have gone through the roof in the last 10 years. You know what I mean? I've been looking into councils, and not just not my council, right? Even though my council has a lot to answer for, but a lot of councils. There's a couple of good ones out in the suburb, like out in the regional areas. But a lot of them are spending more than they make, okay? And their idea is, well, we'll just pump the rates up. You know? I had a. I'm on the audit risk committee, which is a. It's a legislative requirement of local government that we have an independent, and I use the term lightly, independent body, that oversees and gives advice to councils about managing funds, you know? Or audit and risk. We were talking about the latest budget. This has gone back a little while. And they were talking one of the independent members said, "Look, we need to talk about the sustainability of increasing rates, when people are struggling, right? We need to. One of the members said, "Well, if they can't afford their rates, maybe they should just sell out and move somewhere cheaper." Hmm. Yeah? I sit in there, and I'm sitting as steam's coming out my ears, and I said, "How about we just cut back on our spending?" "How about we just do that?" "Oh, straight over the head, because they don't see that. They don't care. This is what it costs to run council, and you've got to pay up, mate. Cop it or piss off." So just going back to those documents. How does WorldEck a moment for a document, a UN document? How does that land into a local council meeting or whatever you had. Well, this is a document. This is part of their. This is Alexander and Drana Council, and this would have been one of their many reports. They have about 2040, their plan for 2040 or 2030, or whatever they do. I mean, councils have got that many plans. They sit there making plans about plans. It's incredible. The amount of money that gets. Let me think of the word, wasted. Hmm. A local government level would blow your mind. And you've got 68 councils with very little oversight. Most elected members wouldn't have that much experience when it comes to finances. And there are some good, don't get me wrong. Some councils are good with very little oversight. And then you've got the bureaucracy, which is the administrations. They all talk, because they're all part of the LGA. All right, so it all filters down. This would have probably all come from the LGA, this crap. OK, now the bunch of unelected bureaucrats. Now the LGA are meant to be a lobby group that lobby on behalf of local council. So as a member, I put up a motion, and I say I want to lobby to state government. We put up a motion if it gets voted on. It'll go to the LGA. They'll have their meeting. And then they'll decide whether that goes on to the state government. Hmm. Why? They're not elected. I mean, they made up of it, mayors and other. It's just one big gravy train. And the LGA is who we. They've got the LGA, which is a local government finance authority. That's who we borrow money from. And they've got the mutual liability scheme, which is where we get our insurance from. It's all tied up. So how much do you think we could cut back on, let's say, like we've. I could done that much. I think our government cost around 30 or 40 million. No. 30 or 40 billion a year, something like that. So you're saying this flows all the way down to local council. Yeah. How much could you cut the fat out of it? Let's say I just say it, local council. If you get councils back to doing what their core business is, probably half. Hmm. Half. Because it's not just the. It's not just the administration. Then you've got all the other snouts in the trough called the consultants. Right? So they will then get people in to give them advice and write a report. There's another 10, 20, 30, 40 grant. Report here, report there. You know, a council. The way Stiggy's incredible. You know, a council is a becoming Stingy now as well. For example, three years ago, there is a tree out the front of my house. Yeah. And it is on government land. Yeah. They trimmed the whole thing. Now they came out and said to me a few weeks ago that I got a pay for the trimming of the trees that fall over onto my land. Hmm. And I wrote back saying, "Fuck you. It is on your land. Yeah. You do the trimming. Yeah. You won't let me cut down the one at the back of my house. Yeah. So fuck you. Yeah. You do the trimming. That's on your land. Just three years ago, why have you changed your tune because you're flat broke? Oh. And look, Adelaide said it. Because I think you're in. I mean, Adelaide Hills Council. Adelaide Hills Council, I think they've put in a bike path here that cost you a million dollars per kilometre. That's going to have to keep upgrading, right? Now I think there's a bit of a battle on between Adelaide Hills Council and Campbell Town Council, because I think they want to swallow you up. I think the biggest thing is saying people are not paying attention to the little things, and the little things are what are killing everybody every day. Local government, our rates are based on value of general's assessment of our property. Okay? Now I've watched and I've looked at the. And I have to find the graph for you. But from 2011 to 2024, I think it is. It was a. No, 2019. It was a pretty steady increase. Plus or minus 5% in valuations. 21, it's shot up 33%. Your rates are now based on those near-valuations. I've looked and I cannot work out why. There's been a massive growth in cost by the value of general from 2021 to 2022. Do you want to tell you why? Go on. Do you know what the M2 money supply is? A little bit about it. So the M2 money supply is all the cash in the system banks, the dollars that we have in our banks, all that, credit, everything like that. And you know how much they flooded into the market during COVID, since 2022 to 2022. 20 billion, wasn't it? 60% of all Australian dollars in circulation, they put that into the market. Yeah, right. 1972, our Federal Reserve started, which is the Reserve Bank. Yeah. So it took us 50 years to print almost a trillion dollars. Yeah. We added 600 billion in two years. That's right. And what they did, it took us 50 years to add one trillion. So you want to see why that markup went up 30%. I'm surprised it only went up 30%. Yeah. Because I looked at, I said, okay, well, because generally valuations are based on property sales. In any one stage, I think there's only three or four percent of the market on the market at a time. So I thought, that's a huge, that's a small amount of houses that we increased in price quite quickly in order for the value of general to then redo that. And so I went, okay, well, that must, that must mean increasing demand. So I looked and I went, okay, what's the influx of people coming into the state? It wasn't that great. No, it's, yeah. And what there was, they said, this is a crucial thing. What there was though is we had a lot of people coming from the Easton Seaboard, now coming over here during COVID and going, we're getting out of there, we're going to come here. Oh, I can buy a house down by the beach by what? Five or 600,000 or 700,000? No, no more. Now, suddenly real estate agents are going, shit, we've got a different buy here, right? It's not just ad-lade buying ad-lade. We've got money. Let's just start joking things up a little bit. And it doesn't take long to that just spiral up. And here we are. And I want to do a deeper dive into this because I don't quite me on this, but I've got a sneaky suspicion that this artificial blow up of our housing market here in South Australia was done artificially. It wasn't something that happened through natural market forces. It's something that I just think, I don't know, I've just got to hunch about it because such a great increase, right? So getting back to the value of general and the cost of housing, right? So the value of general does evaluation on your property and then the council then does what's called a rate in the dollar to work out what that money they need to do this, right? That's what basically is your rates. Do you remember there was a talk not long ago where the Labor Party was getting smashed about taxing unrealised gains and superannuation? People don't realise that rates, council rates are actually based on an unrealised gain, which is the value of general's valuation. So as the value of general puts a house prices up, the rates can go up, but you're not earning any extra money. It's an unrealised gain because if your house went say your house here went from say 700,000 and then all these houses around you sold for a million, suddenly yours is now worth a million, your income hasn't changed. But your rates are now based on a more expensive value of your house, your ability to pay those rates back hasn't increased. And how much has your pay gone up? Yeah, it's not that much, mate. It's at 2011 levels. Exactly, it's gone backwards. Yeah. - That's still at 2011. - And for me, 40% of my population down in Victor Harbor retirees fixed incomes, you know. - Me and my wife is spoken about retiring down there. - Oh, it's beautiful place. And they struggle. And so as a counselor, I can only go as fast as the slowest person, right? I've got to bring them along. We've got some really expensive houses and we've got a lot of ratepayers that pay a lot of money 'cause they've got beachfront and everything. But the majority of our ratepayers are elderly. My Victor Harbor is a big retirement village. You know, it's a beautiful place. So I think councils, they're now taken over by people that want to do this garbage, right? And if they're getting the core business, like we get our bins picked out half as much now too. So providing less service and charging them more. - It's wild to me that local council, and this is like I would love to get into this bit deeper. It's wild to me that some here at local councils have now been invaded by the World Economic Forum and the UN. - Isn't it true, David? - How did that happen? - Not that because you know how to like. I've had a hunch and I say a lot, I say a lot of shit on social media. I say a lot of shit on social media. And I try to fact check, bring out all of it. But you can't fact check stuff like our politicians are controlled by the UN and the weaf. - I just, that's just the hunch. - Yeah, that's a gut feeling I got. - They're not controlled by the Australian people. Let's put it this way. - But then when you bring that in. - Yeah, it blows your mind. - I'm like hang on. - What's going on? - That's why when this was sent to me, I had a double take, I'm like, what, no, that copy? And I looked it up, you can see the website there. I looked it up and sure a shit it was there. And I'm like, how did this document? Because I know that the council didn't create this document and then send it to the weaf of the UN. It came down. And so we need to, and this is one of the things, and this is, I reckon this is what one of the things that's really gonna put a big target on my back, right? Because for the most part, most people don't know bugger all about council. They'll get pissed off and they'll get their rates noticed like bloody council or a pot all bloody council or stupid spending money on, you know, one council thing but they were gonna put up 40 grand to go to the S vote and then the community heard about it, got pissed off and did a motion and they rescinded it. For the most part, it's the sleeping tier of government that no really knows about, right? They're copying a lot of grief at the moment. Jettie Road, that's an absolute shit show what the council have done there. - Down in Glenel. - Yeah. You know, there's a big thing going on at the Adelaide City Council trying to put in more footpaths, not footpaths, bike tracks and get rid of lanes and parking, so on Hutch Street, so that's turning into a shit show. - Adelaide's a ghost town mate. - Yeah, but it's Greenmate. - It's Greenmate. - I think someone said we have sang like 30% of stores at empty down there or something. I'm not too sure. - I don't know, but I mean, I only got there sometimes for work and stuff if I'm building up there. But what I'm saying is, local governments have pretty much been left alone, right? They're very quiet, you know, no one. Do you know how much the CEO of your council would be earning? - But I don't even know who he is. - I don't know, but I can tell you now, they'd be on somewhere between $350,000 a year. - What? - Oh shit, you're not. Senior management, you know, that they've got there, they'd be on $150,000, $170,000 a year. You have a, I know you look at a lot of big things. You look at a big overview of a lot of things, right? Sometimes it's a little things that are on front of your face that are a lot the biggest. - Wow. - Yeah, and your council would probably control, you know, without knowing I'd say billions of dollars worth of assets, all the road infrastructure, parks, all this sort of stuff. Big money. When you start looking into like, and I mean for me, it's just what I do 'cause it's council, right? I got on to council thinking I was gonna be able to change the world. And you realize that it comes down to votes, okay? So my council got nine members. So I need five to get a motion up and passed, okay? So, and I've put some pretty controversial, well, then I'll controversial things. - It's just normal things. - Just normal things that I think we don't need to get in. And my biggest point is, what does this cost the rate, payer? What's the return on investment? And do we really need it, right? Because councils isn't another good, not a good idea. So they'll go out to consultation with the community on a project they want to push. And they'll come back and they'll go to, they'll present the elected members and say, "We're consoled with the community." And 70% said, "This is a good idea." So you're sitting there as an elected member, and you go 70% of the community. Victor Harb is 16,500 rate payers. That's a considerable amount of people. And then I started looking at the actual surveys that they got back. And I'm thinking for, there must be huge. I mean, that many 70% of 16,000, thousands of people, right, I'm looking, I'm going, hang on, 650 people replied. So there's probably about 400 people, and we're basing spending 40,400 people out of 11,500, 16,000 people. So I started asking questions, out of interest. So now every time I get a survey back, I'll go, 70% of how many responded. And you'll find that people just don't are interested in local councils. They're just like, whatever. Until they get their rates noticed, and they're like, what the, you know? So one thing I try to tell people is, don't complain about the rates notices when you get it. Have a look at what they're doing to get to that point, because it's a six month period where you're talking about, what you're going to fund, what you're not going to fund, you know, people can consult and have a say what goes on, but they wait till the last minute or once that notices in and that's like, we can't do anything. And look, three years I've been on council, I've never proved a budget. But six members have. And if you approve, and this is what I've said to them every time, every time you get a shitty budget that's in deficit, that's out blowing, you know, going above what they need to be doing, and you sign off on it, that's a standard you're accepting. I won't accept it. I'm sorry. And I would rather just keep fighting and fighting and fighting until we get that start trimming. Like you talk about, you know, government spending money, what point to someone say, where's this debt going to be? Who's going to pay for all this? - Hmm. - They'll keep doing it, because they'll keep getting away with it. Because the minute people go and vote for that same government that just got us into the sh*t show, you are accepting that standard. - Well, the exact same thing is that, we're not here because of Labor. Liberals were just as addicted to debt as Labor was. Labor's just with us now, and like Jim Charmers is a little bit, and Abbo is a little bit of mail. And I love Tinoff on tour, but like, and then they're not making any better. They are printing billions, and they're doing the exact same thing that Liverpool did, so they are fair game. But both parties have got us into this mess. And I think if you want to fix government, the first thing you need to do is fix the money, is fix the debt, and fix our borrowing addicted society, and because we're living on a buy now pay later system. - That's the key, right? Fix the voter. I've said this so many times, if you change the mindset of the person that gives the bureaucrat the power, that changes, right? 'Cause my council, we've got three people that speak up. If I had two more on council, none of this nonsense, we would just shut it down, shut it down, shut it down, until eventually we got something that resembled, and if the CEO didn't, could provide, we'd find someone else. But they move these people in local government, and government is around, they move, and like you said, they're a bureaucrat one day, they're a parliamentarian, they're a staffer, then it's just a revolving circle of shit. But the voter has a part to play. So that's one of the biggest things I think that's very important. If you're gonna be able to do anything, is educate people to understand, because I was speaking to one of my candidates last night, and he said it so beautifully, he said, our right to vote, we take it as a right, right? But in actual fact, as a responsibility, not to go there and get your sausage and put your name on a ballot or tick, or even draw a dick on a page, don't do that 'cause last time you did it, he got elected. But it's a responsibility, because that right to vote has been given to us from centuries ago, where people have shed and lost blood and fought for us to have that. We're not a dictatorship, we are a democracy. The very least you can do is take a day, half a day, look at who you're voting for, look at the candidates, look at the policies and make a judge decision, right? And then think about, right, when I do that, is that gonna benefit just me, my family, my state, my country. Have some responsibility about what good, the voter has a lot to play in this as well. And I understand media, put shit in our brains and teach the kids this and the rest of it, but we do have free will, right? There's a level of ownership that has to be, and I'll be the first to admit, voted Labor, voted Liberal when I was younger. I didn't know. Now I know how the game works, I know the rules, I know what I need to do to change it, I take ownership of my vote. There's definitely people waking up to the system now. There's so many people, especially young men. My platform specifically talks to 18 to 35, that's my biggest demographic mass. Probably a lot of trade is, I guess. Yeah, yeah, but just average kids. Yes, average young kids, which is brilliant. That's the sort of target audience I want. And I have a lot of messages now being like, I mean, I didn't realize that, you know, voting this system. actually flawed. You have to actually, if you want change, you've got to vote outside the system. And I'm showing that now through like lobbying debt. All this stuff, it doesn't matter who's in, you just get the same type of shit coming down to you. So voting outside the system needs to happen and needs to occur at the next election. And this preferential voting stuff as well. Like I'd like to, there's a big scam with that as well. You put your preferential vote in there and it sort of all trickles back to Labor and Liberal somehow. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's it. But the preferential voting system basically is you're grading who you want to vote for from most preferred to least preferred. And as the votes come down, obviously they get distributed till is the highest person right. So once again, it's a system. If people knew how the system worked and use it to their advantage. But no one knows. So now we go back to don't blame the system, blame the people that are that are using it. It's like saying, you know, I've heard people say, we've banned. Okay. So we've banned V8s for young kids. Right. Okay. Why not teach kids how to drive safely in a V8 or why not teach kids? Right. So we're just banned. Okay. I'll say this with it. And I hear it all the time when it comes to elections is like, Oh, this party made this preference and this party made this preference. Guys, it is a suggestion. Right. If you went into a restaurant and you sat down and you looked at the menu and you had a good study of it, I'm going to have this, this, this. And the waiter came over and said, No, no, have this. Would you take it? Or would you go actually no, I saw you did your research. You know what you want. And you follow the, the what you said. So whether someone puts someone in front of your hand in your face right when you're going there, that shouldn't be you'll get out of jail. Right. You should look at it and go actually, no, actually even better before you get to the voting booth, how about you know who you're voting for? Because I can tell you, I think it's something stupid like 30 or 40% of people that go to vote don't even know who they're going to vote for. At the last election, I had no idea, no idea who my local. You like to remember what's no idea. Yeah. No idea. But you could have found that out. Right. You could have found that out. You could have done so and you'd now now you're awake. You know, you know, you're looking at all this stuff. You look, but you're looking at a bigger picture. Right. You're looking at a bigger scale. And yes, these people in these electorates are all just part of a machine. So people have to take ownership of what they're doing. Right. You want the right to vote. The responsibilities you, you, you do it properly. Right. Don't sit there and I hear this so many times too. Oh, nothing's going to change. Right. Nothing would change if nothing changes and the change starts with you. That's, and that's, that's hard because it's taking a little. Well, I'll agree with you there every day of the week. And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. You know, I could be doing a million other things than other than what I'm doing now. I can tell you now my partner, she has a list as long as this table of things that she wanted me to do. But for me, there's three reasons I do where I do it. And every day I'll get up. I do this for my family. Okay. I do this for people that don't have a voice that I had to have out of gutful and want to change. And I do this for that flag. I do this for this country. This country has provided me with a lot of opportunity. I didn't get a saying coming here, but shit, I was lucky that my parents chose this country. And it really shits me to tears when I see people that are born in this country, treat this country like it's nothing. Right. How anybody can think that allowing a group of people to burn your national flag on television is acceptable, blows my mind. How we are not. You know how that happens? Or you just put in self-hatred in school programs to say that the land's not yours and the land that you're on is stolen. Of course. No wonder what someone. And then you take away the ability to ever own a piece of that with a house. You take away that you tell them that they're, you know, like you said, stolen land, you just keep smashing them with this stuff. But what has been done can be undone? Of course. Because, and I say this all the time, since Julia Gillard maybe a bit earlier, we've been in a self-hatred point where we are hating our country. And it's taken us 10 to 15 years to get you. Yeah. It's going to take us 10 to 15 years to get out of here. Yeah. Like trust me, there's a lot of shit that I want to say online. But I know that I need to go softly, softly. Like if you watch me from six months ago, to what I say now, yeah, it's softly, softly. Yeah. I continuously change my. You're evolving. Yeah. Okay. And I can. And but I know where the end goal is for me. Correct. And what I want. But you can't just put it on to them straight away. No, you blow their mind. Because I'm trying to rewind bad habits of what has happened over the last decade. Yeah. And I'm trying to do it in a five year period. Yeah. So like it's all softly, softly with this stuff. That's why sometimes I'll, and I go through levels of getting angry and I've dropped back down and then I'll go, like, and people are like, where they come along for the ride. Yeah. And that's how I'm dragging so many people into to watch my stuff. But it is, it's going to take a long time for us to like this. This isn't kind of fixed. Like let's say, let's say one nation wins an exhibition. Now, like, I know that and pull it. I don't think pulling can become PM because she's in the she's in the upper house. So she can't become PM. But let's say like one nation gets majority of the vote and they actually control it. But let's say a liberal member gets in something like that. Yeah. But they have the power. Yeah. It's like, it's not going to be fixed. Like there's going to be a pain raft to go through. Right. Yeah. Because we're undoing decades. It's getting getting worse before it gets better. I've spoken to Paul. It is. It is. And but like, you know, the good thing about putting in the right type of figure that has been through a whole bunch of shit before, they can cop it again for the next three or four years while we correct this country back onto a path where that kids have a future. Yeah. Like someone's going to take the absolute brunt of it here. Of course it is. Because we've been drip-fread bullshit for the past 10 to 15 years. Yeah. So when we do turn around and get on a good path and there'll be people that'll be there's going to be a lot of pushback. I can tell you now they'll be pushback because there's bit. Yeah. And and and there's also been a youth that has been told that the people that talk up against trended transgenderism climate change that they had dangerous and they need to be taken out. So those people as well, like I've been getting, they get death threats. They want to take you out. So whoever's in the next government, like yourself, get ready for death threats, get ready for people trying to take you out of the game and get ready to be berated by everyone else because they have been indoctrinated into a sense of thinking that people like you and I are dangerous. And I mean, yeah, you put on a shield of armour and everyone just has to know that when we do turn a corner and we will eventually or else who knows what's going to happen. It'll happen. But it's going to be tough. Yeah. It'll be tough. There'll be more social division than ever before. There'll be riots in the street because we know how much we know how much the radical eff like to. Yeah. Like to riot because now they are the most people with the most violent actually. And they do nothing. Yeah. And nothing. So they will riot. And yeah, it's not going to be. And then the media is going to be on their side. And it will slowly drip feed and change. But the science majority are sick of this shit. I'm ready. Right. Because I've come to the conclusion. I'm not going to be on the surf one day, one second, one hour longer than I was destined to be no longer low earlier. What happens is going to happen. And I don't think I'm that important that anybody would want to kill me. You don't know. There's some nutters out there, right? But what I'm pushing forward, what the party's pushing forward is bigger than any one person. It is a change. A systemic change is required in this country. If we're going to have a country, it's as simple as that. And I know that to some people, that might sound grandiose or big, but I just believe in my heart that if we don't correct course, we're fucked. I can't make it any clearer. Right. We are now at a point where there will be anger in generations. And if I was actually listening to a reporter talking about something, it was really interesting. He was saying that if we continue going down this path, we will end up like, you know, that guy in New York, the new mayor, the socialist communist, McDonald, McDonald, and what every name is, we're going to end up with one of them here because they're going to be so much anger that they will go to anything. And that's exactly what they want. That's exactly what the left want. The left, they love victimhood. Okay. And I can tell you, I've had things happen in my past. I should be right at the top of being a victim. And I've chosen every day to get up and go, that's not going to define who I am in my life. I am going to do this. And I don't care how hard it is, how much pain I go through because at the end of the day, I know that when I'm ready to go, I can honestly say I did my best. And I've got nothing on the table. So that they want to go down this way. I want to go down this way. And whatever they throw at me, I don't care. I've got big shoulders. I've, I've copped it all and council everything. I've copped it all the time. It's words. Thank you. You know what I think is going to happen, especially we fight one nation can this and stuff like that. Because you guys speak out against the weafers who are the UN. I'll shoot you. There'll be, there'll be things coming down from them. I'll look forward to it. Yeah, it is. Give me a goodbye. Give me a debate any day. Okay? Violent? I can hold my arm. Pretty big boy. I've been around the bush. Give me a debate and let's see where we go. Let's talk. So, and we'll just end with a bit of discussion about the South Australian election coming up. When is that? End of March. I think third week of March. Next year. Yep. So very close. So, Peter Mellon now asks you is destroying a bit of Stardas here in the polls? Yes. Do you think he is destroying Vincent Taras here in the polls because people are moving to one nation from the liberal party? Yeah, our numbers are just increasing at a rate of knots. In South Australia? Across the country. But in South Australia, where I think our increase has almost been on par with Queensland, which is kind of like our home base sort of thing, is where we biggest. We had a situation where we had a sitting member of parliament. And we'd have been probably five or six, no, probably seven months ago now, six months ago. She left. Right? We're not going to get into that because it's pointless. I don't want to spend any time on it. I look forward. What happened in the past is happening in the past. I can't change that. And we came out and we had nothing. Right? We had no voice. We had nothing. And I sat down and I said, well, what can I do here? Can I just throw it all in? Or do I go nut? I just made the choice. No. And since then, our growth has been insane. We're looking to run 47 candidates. That's one in every seat. In South Australia. In South Australia. I want to see where every. I want to give the ability for a one nation supporter, even in the most lefty of suburbs, to say, I'm here and put that vote next to that candidate. Okay? That's not easy to get that right to get those candidates. Well, seeming no other political party wants to come on this podcast. There is an open invitation if you want your candidates to come on. Yeah. And I don't have anyone on that week. Yeah. You're more than welcome to come on and use my platform. But that. And I'm not saying. I would love for you to organise a debate. I'd love for you to organise a debate with the candidates and see who rocks. With the upper-house candidates or whoever's going to be presenting or who is the leader of the party, to speak or to spokesman for that party and let's debate. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah, I would like that. I'd like that. But in saying that, like with one nation members, I would have greenies on here. I would have two members on here. They just got to be ready to answer questions. Yeah. And to talk with me. I would have Labour members on here. I would have Liberal members on here. And I would have one nation members on here. And I would have any independent. They want to come on as well. Because you're kind of like. you want to see the best come up. You want to see the cream rise. I just want to see. I like one, I want to have discussions. But two, I also just want to. I want to give people a voice to be able to tell me why they're the best candidate. If someone came in here and they were a green candidate and they convinced me, blue and blue, that they were the best candidate. And even if I picked a bunch of holes in them, debate them and they beat me, I'd be like, "Yeah, fair enough, I might think about that." But now, look, if you ever want people on there, then that's. So you're going to run 47 candidates in all these countries? I want to run 47 candidates. And then I'm going to run candidates at the local government elections. That's where I started. I went from state government, sorry, from running in state election. And then I got. And it was funny because the guy at my mentor, he said to me, "Because I've sort of flown in the idea of local government." And he said to me, "He goes, "Don't waste your time. It is seriously a waste of time." I've got a lot of supporters. I just come off a state election. A lot of people would help me get my numbers. I think I've got like 4.7% of the vote. It's like nothing, you know. What? 4.7% of the vote. No, but that's just in my district of Venice, right? 4.7% is better than zero. Of course it is. But it was like. And I remember on election. And I remember on election. Sorry, especially in a labour and labour dominated. Oh, there was mainly a labour dominated area, right? The sitting member's labour was very conservative. You know, it's going to be. No one knew me from a barricade. You know, it's going to be interesting. Yeah. The next election. Oh, yeah. With how much labour was it died? Oh, look, I have no doubt that our numbers are going to get. Just I'm polling, right? And I take polling with a grain of salt, right? I'm still going to go out there and my candidates are going to go out there and work every day. Okay. And these average people, by the way, these are politicians. I've truck drivers, business owners, couple. One of the guys, one of the candidates in the upper house is a nurse. It works the world out of late. We speak all the time about the issues of about fixing the hospital. I'll tell you, this is a big one. This is going to be one for you, show. I'm talking to my executive, my group of people that are helping us formulate policy. And all my branch members, we're starting branches down here. And just the general public, I'm going guys, I want to fix ramping. Right? Because both parties have forgotten about it. No one's fixed that. No, no, no. But I want to fix it. Because I honestly believe any problem can be fixed. It's a matter of money, want to fix it, and then having the bulls to see it through. Right? There is a whole bureaucracy that don't want these problems we have in this state. To get fixed because they rely, they rely on these problems being there. Because that's their job. They just drag it out. I've spoken to, I'll tell you one lady I spoke to Lisa Maloney. She's a massive advocate for child protection, you know, for foster care and kinship. 20 years, this lady's been fighting to get changes made. Has the suggestions and solutions to fix these problems? Do you think they would listen to her? These are kids that no one wants to look after. People have put their hand up and said, you know what, I'm going to take someone I don't know. Bring him into my house and be a parent and help them, help raise them. We should be throwing rose petals at these people. And yet they get treated like absolute shit. So it's people like that that I'm speaking to that I want to elevate and go, right, show me the problem. Show me the solution. Now let me help you implement it. And then we move on to the next problem. And that's how we fix the state. One problem at a time and we call out those that don't want to fix it. We go after them, cut them out, get rid of them, out. There's not a problem in this state that can't be fixed if you really want to fix it. That's the God's honest truth. Especially with our natural resources. I mean, I'm not even talking about touching in or taxing anymore. It's about redistribution or putting money into the things that we, I mean, they're talking about. I mean, they're talking about spending a billion dollars or two billion dollars on this new cop thing that I think we only found out today it fell on its arse. But two billion dollars doesn't know the hospital, how many schools, how many houses would they be for people that don't have a roof over their head? All right. It's about deciding what you spend the money on. That's a whole lot of advertising for the male and our sister. About 140 million. How much could you do with 140 million? Yeah. And it's going to be really, really interesting because South Australia's next election coming up is the first election Australia-wide since the federal election. So it's going to be, and South Australia is a very, very labour-leaning state. Where left is down here. I sort of hate the fact that we're lefties. I wouldn't say we're left-left, right, because male and uscus and his part are a lot of these people in his party from the right side, but they don't control the country right. This is all saying to you, like, as much as he is meant to be serving it to the people of South Australia, push-com to shove the directive-come from Albo, he would tail between his legs, he wouldn't push back. Yeah, he had Bowen walking down here two months ago, giving him a tour of all our wind and solar farms. And I'm like, "Bro, give him a tour of our uranium deposits." No, no, no, nuclear. You believe in zero missions? Don't look at nuclear. I mean, our policy is very simple when it comes to power. Call for our power station back up in Port Augusta, because we know it works. Yeah. We're not going to reinvent the wheel. Yeah, and then the gas plant on the Tyron's Island B. That got shut down a few months ago, or it's going to be shut down in a few months. Let's understand how people can't put two and two together. Highest concentration of renewables, most expensive power. And Bowen, don't get me started on Bowen. I think someone said to me, they said, "Oh, Bowen, if that guy took a shit before an exam, he'd always IQ so much he'd fail." And I just thought that was a really funny way to say that. But when I see him up there talking, the guy, it has now become a cult. They believe this stuff like a religion, and to speak out against it is heresy. Bowen's commandant said that he wants to put Australia on an irreversible green path. Yeah. That's his goal. You know what he does is where he gets billions of dollars worth subsidies. You know what he hands out subsidies out? Yeah. Julia Gillard, HMC. Because she had money in her. Didn't she tie something up in green energy or something? Yeah, yeah. And then she just sold it on. Yeah, yeah. So she's got a firm called HMC, it's a green investment firm. She has bought out a whole bunch of property, and didn't had any funding for it. Yeah. Nothing. Right? Got the contract. Yeah. Chris Bowen used to be one of her workers, gave her billions of dollars in subsidies. Yeah. She then flipped that project two weeks later off the back of his subsidies. How is that known? She made a conflict of interest. How is that known? A conflict of interest. Because lobbying is legal in theft and rot is legal in the government. But we, and when I say we, the voter, put up with it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So we need it, but we need to vote our way differently out of this. We have to. There's no two ways about it. And South Australia is going to be the guinea pig in the next voting to see how much independence or one nation puts up. Correct. I'll tell you one thing, right? So you look at the UK, you follow what's going over there. So you've got the reform party who have never been in government, never, they've just come out of nowhere, never been in government led by Nigel Farage. Their vote count or their polling is so high. And I remember commentator saying this, he said, what that says is that people are so angry with the existing system that they were a, were it a threat up in the air and give it to a group of people that have never run the country because they would go, that is such a shit show. We're going to go with that. But, you know, the good thing is is outside the system. Yeah. You know, like I was reading an article, if they put Labor and Liberal together over there, reform would still win. It's still win. It's still win. And I'm hoping because no one seems to be doing like a reform movement in, yeah, and this is a problem with the right, so many parties in the right. You know, the left has got it sorted. The Tills, the Greens, the Labor, the right has got like 50,000 parties. Yeah, no, there's a lot of, there's a lot of parties on the left as well, your fusion, animal justice, cannabis party, like there is a lot. The thing is with the preferential voting system, they are very coordinated. Their preferences generally all stay on that left side of the ledger, like 85%. Whereas on the right, because by nature we're individualistic. We don't like that communist collective thing. We want to be our own people and our own movements. So our votes spray everywhere. And I'll tell you now, and I'll tell you off air. But there's a few parties where you'll be very surprised when you look at the preferences, and where they go after, and you think, oh shit, that's a right party for sure. And then their preferences all via left. Now that could be the pad of vote, okay, that people might be following. Or that could just be the voter. Or that could be a message sent out to do that this way. I don't know. But I like to look at numbers, because numbers don't lie generally, right? So that is something that I look at and say, why is the flow of votes going this way versus going that way, where you would think 85%. Now it could be as low as 50%. That's what's killing us. Right? That is what's killing us. And while we're increasing the Labour, the Liberal Party is coming down. I think this is my prediction in the future. And I could be wrong. We could sit back in 10 years, have a beer and laugh about this. My prediction is that governments or that politics is going to just split down the line on left and right. There's going to be some key issues that will define which way you go. You're believing climate change. You're going to be on the left. You don't believe in it. You're going to be on the right. You're believing trans-changerism. You don't. You're believing sovereignty or national nationalism. You'll be on the right and on the left. There will be like, it's like a bit like the US. Well, that's where I think it's going to go. Yeah, this is starting to happen now. Yeah. Because people are starting, like me, people are starting to call out the moderates in the Liberal Party who are left leaning green and two applying. So everyone now is starting to wake up to the system of the Liberal Party is compromised. The Labor Party, well, they just, they are the Labor Party. But if you're voting on the right, it doesn't mean that the candidate that you're voting for, they probably believe in climate change. They probably believe in net zero. They probably believe there's a thousand different genders. Like Susan Lay, believes in the gender pay gap, believed in net zero, believes in gender quotas. They brought it in climate change. Yeah, they brought it in. Like even when she did her first speech, she came out and said all that and I'm like, what who is this lady? And yeah, now everyone's starting to wake up to it because they realise that the Liberals they're not, Liberals aren't right leaning. They're not concerned. There are some, there are some. There are conservatives in there. In there. But they are fighting a losing battle. And I say to them, and I know a few of them, I say, listen, at what point are you just going to accept that this is an unsalable issue because now is the time to build up steam and clear. But they think they all had a win because they got out of net zero, right? They're in the air like that. They're still in the Paris agreement. It's like, it doesn't mean it. Like I said, they've moved everybody from the front of the Titanic to the back of the Titanic. It's still the Titanic guys. Let's be honest. And unfortunately for a lot of this, it's going to be interesting though because this is a way for them. For some of those right leaning Liberal members to keep their jobs. I'm, we're against net zero now. And I'm, you know, because I don't, because real leadership would go, I think it's all bullshit and I'm out of the party. But then you're sacrificing a wage and whatever ambition you've got. And also your pension. Pension, you know? That's the problem. We have too many politicians these days that worry about their paychecks, their pension and pre-selection. Yeah. And it's a machine that produces that. The party's produced that. We've only just brought branches in. I'm very, I go to pretty much every branch menu, all the beginning of branches, I go to these, what we call active groups. And I, and I look out for these like, seek them. Right? I start to get the spider, tingey, if I can feel when I see these people and I go, oh, that, but we haven't had any, you know? Because I know, I asked a few questions and I can pick up straight away where you're left right, what you believe and what you don't believe in. Looking at you, like pretty quick, right? There's no room for moderates in one nation, not one, not interested. We are Australia first. We're going to go in this direction. We believe in this, this and this. Very clear, our policies are very clear. There's no ambiguity about it. Okay? That's what we stand for. You want to jump on board? Boyle means. You want to go and try and get in and push the party that way. Not interested. There's plenty of parties on the left, going to be on the left. No room for it. Right? That's it. Good. Good, good. Well, we'll wrap it up there. Thank you. You're welcome to come back on before, maybe a couple of weeks before, if you want to jump back on to the podcast. That'd be cool. Right before the election. Yeah. I think nothing that would be cool. Yeah, well, I mean, it's just at the moment, it's hectic. Luckily, I'm actually going up to Canberra next week. I made a mind's actually being sort of sworn in and doing his maiden speech. And I'm going to get up there and sort of brief the party where we're at with how things are going here. And I mean, the party's just blowing up now everywhere. And like I said, we have not changed. Yeah, I like it. It's just like we haven't changed. Pauline's fighting a court case with Faruqy at the moment of the back of Pakistan. Yeah, the immigrant. That's the one. Words. Words. Well, really, that's what's going to offend you. I told her to go the fuck back to Pakistan in real when she said you white people. Oh, it's funny. She can say you white people, but when Pauline Henson tells her to go back to Pakistan, I better watch out. Yeah. I mean, Jesus, the color of your skin gets you somewhere these days, doesn't it? It's nonsense. Yeah, it sounds. It's, and this is world that needs to be broken down. But yeah, mate, I'm looking forward to having you back on. And looking forward to having Pauline on as well. I'll do my best. I'll see you next week. Yeah, that'll be good. I'll have a chat to her. I think she's coming down in January for an event we're having here. I'll keep you abreast of that one. It's going to be good. I think it's going to be the Adelaide Raceway. Last time we did it last year was like 5,000 people. Good ol' Aussie day, V8s. Yeah. You know, just good, wholesome fun. Happy to come out as well. Yeah, be awesome. Yeah, if you want to give me another. But, mate, yeah, thanks for coming on and good luck with the next few months. And I'm looking forward to seeing what's happening with one nation. You're welcome. Thanks very much. You're welcome. Cheers. Thanks for tuning in to Two Worlds Glide Podcast. If you want to support what I'm doing, you can grab some merch or jump on my Patreon program. Both links are in the description. Until next week, take care guys.