#669 - Riley Green

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Yeah, get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road and you don't realize how far you've been till you get off it to walk back to your car, but it's just pushing trees over in clear fields. God. Yeah, except the animals are like, here comes out. Look, we love his music, but this guy's. Yeah, that's pretty fair. Of course, I'm making like a field. I'm going to plant some food for him. Okay, so some of it's just rezoning for them. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, all it is just yeah. It's like, look guys, we're kind of we're not going to put a parking lot or a came art there. It's going to be like, you know, he's a field. Yeah, I'll leave him some shade trees this time. Sorry, man. Yeah, I'm acting like you're the bad guy. I was like, but you made me the developer on Ferngoly. It's like burning the woods down. It's like I'm not doing it. I'm making it nicer. Like I dug a lake like through somewhere for him to swim. Oh, really? Yeah, man. Oh, God. That'd be beautiful. You made me the man. Yeah, dude. I'm freaking, yeah, I made you the bad guy. You made me like the bad guy on the, let's I'm moving with the blue people avatar. Yeah, you made me that guy. It's like just destroying the forest. I'm like making it nicer for the animals. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're down there repurpied. Yeah, man. God, I got it. I got to get in prayer. I got to get in the word. I mean, what you got to do is get on a bulldozer. Yeah, you got down there and get on a tractor. You figure your life out down there doing that. Do you? What do you do? What is your thing that you say is your biggest disconnect from all this? What do you do? I don't honestly problem, right? I don't have an immediate answer. I would probably say, I would say probably working out and going for a walk probably. Okay, well, that's definitely one of them, but like you're still thinking about. Yeah, you're still in it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, if I go for a walk with a good friend, it's like, that's more like just kind of like contemplating discussing stuff, but I agree having some having like, it's time for me to kind of like find some other outlets and stuff, you know, and I just got off a torn. So that's like, this is one of the first times where it's like, well, who am I? You know, what do I do with myself? Oh, both of them. Who am I and what do I do with myself? Like, you know, not a not a whiny way, but it just like kind of hit me like that. It's like, okay. So it's time for me to like kind of embrace some of those. But just so people know, I think we started in, you said you have like, you guys got a couple thousand acres down there in Alabama. I bought, I've got 1780 right now that all touches, but I bought it in like little pieces here. Every time I go down there, I'm calling my neighbors up to see if anybody wants to sell anything, but my gun to any buffers, brother, Uncle Bill had some property that I grew up running around on. It was 141 acres and I bought that first and then just since then I've grown it and it's just a never ending project. When you go out there, I'll go home and it kind of keeps me sane on the road, too, because I'll be thinking about, man, when I get home, I'm going to take the D3 over here and clear this one field off or make this road around outside of the property. So I can go in here and I'm a digger lake over here. So you're just constantly creative because there's, I mean, everything you do is making the land more valuable. Right. So and you have a crew that does that with the, my dad and his brother used to frame houses. My dad was a carpenter and he's 70 now. So I mean, they're both pretty old and kind of beat down. So I let them work around the farm and just, you know, run tractors and all that and they love that kind of work. And I got a couple of buddies I used to do construction work with that helped me out out there. So there's always something going on, but when I get home like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you're not going to have your phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know, and then going out there and you get caught up in what you're doing. And I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day. I love that about construction work, but that's something you don't get in what we do. Like, yeah, there's a lot of accolades and big moments and highs out of it, but as far as like what we do never has an end, you never finished with what we're doing. Like there's a little thing she's okay with that one. Well, check. I'll go to the next thing, but like being on tours, you know, my tour to the end, we just tour to all holidays get here and people stop coming to shows and we start back around February, you know, so it's nice to have something that you can finish. Amen. Yeah, yeah, having that justify okay, like just like looking back, seeing something, the day is done. The sun, you know, I'm saying like you can feel the evening coming in. You're like, okay, that's time. Yeah, I used to work on a on a soybean farm over there and near like Vidalia, Louisiana, right over on the Louisiana Mississippi border in there. And that was those are some of the best days, man. It was tough work, but you like I still go back and frame a little bit with my buddy build out just to remind myself what it was like. Yeah, dude, I'll just love whether they had me painting or just like moving seat or just like cleaning spray rigs, just whatever it was, man, it was just something like, yeah, there was something real rewarding about it. You could also, like, I could be hung over or whatever it was and be having a bad day and I could get through a day of work doing that, but this you have to be happy every day. Yeah, if you got at least act like you are. Oh, yeah, you gotta show up. I can't deal with stage and, you know, be up. So I gotta be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me and they want to see that. So it's a, it's nice to be able to go over and kind of cut loose on something like that. Well, look, welcome to this podcast, dude, because I've spent probably a third of my life wanting on this bitch about. So yeah, we want to plan about. I know one thing I'm going to complain about on this podcast, you have no coffee maker here. I'm sending you on. There's going to be a moment right here. You were in my kitchen. Yeah, you saw I don't have one. I looked, I looked through every closet in your house. I was, you know, there's not one here. I looked through all your stuff. You look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm not doing anything in the closet, dude. I'm out of here. I'm out. I like women. But yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there, dude, if I'm in the closet so long that I'm making coffee in there, it's in a while. Yeah. I guess I'd be me out, but sometimes you have a tough time picking out an outfit or whatever. And I just say outfit. Let's keep it moving. Yeah, shirt. Yeah, picking on a shirt. It really is a shirt. What made you pick that one today? I tried on another one. I took it downstairs. It was just as a little, felt a little more formal. And then I was right. I feel like that. I see I took it like you wore that because Val was coming. Well, I appreciate it. I feel this just felt right, man. Yeah. Dude, you remember I saw you. Good to see you, man. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing this interview backwards. Thanks for coming. Yeah, dude. This is how it goes in here. By the way, I'm Riley Green. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Riley Green. This past weekend. Um, thanks for coming, bro. I appreciate it. Um, dude, I started doing it for a while. Yeah, we had been. And this is good, man. And I saw you. Remember, I went to your surprise party. You remember that? Yeah, but I don't think you're invited. Yeah. I think you came in and got a piece of cake and left. Honestly, it's what happened. Okay. That could be true. But I remember, though, like you weren't into you. I don't think it's a prize. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like surprises. Yeah. I always, because I walked in way out of that. That was your sister. Somebody's like, you know, sometimes over there, losers will be like, yeah, you know, it's at Riley's a pride party. You know, we got to go sometimes like it happens a lot. That was one time that has a good point. Yeah. Sometimes we're always having a surprise party. No, it'll never happen again. Uh, but sometimes you'll be there. And they'll be like, this is going on there. So we got all. So people will make like the, um, the mac or whatever the, the, the, the, you know, the journey over to your bar, which is right next door. Yeah. What you got to do on the back door, you have to sneak up the back. I'll come to the back, but you were heading in. So they're like, yeah, it's a surprise party. Don't say nothing. I'm like, I'm not saying nothing. I'm only known that good, you know. And then we all walked in and we all surprised. You will thought you did. You're in my surprise party. Yeah. I thought you playing the whole thing. I thought I was in it. I've given my management out the cake. You know, it's, yeah, it was great. I mean, you ate some of it. I took two pieces. I took two pieces out. Sounds right. You, okay, this is no joke. You literally got invited to my pod, my, uh, surprise party last minute, walk in, take two pieces of cake and leave. Yeah. That's what happened. Amen, brother. That's cool. Uh, we got in there. I was like, well, shit, if he don't even want to be at a surprise party, then I'm gonna get my, come on, head on. I just don't need to be surprised to enjoy something like, for me, I don't get to see my family and friends that often travel and all the time. So if you gathered everybody, just tell me, yeah, we'll go over there and we'll do it a bit. It's enough that they're there. Yeah. You know, I, I give my manager to our time because I want ACM award in, uh, 2020. And they call me and they're like, Hey, you need to assume with the label. And I don't have computers. I go over to their place and they get it all set up. And there's my prison, my label and the vice president, everybody. And I'm like, I will be talking about and then keep everyone comes. I was like, Oh, you're oily. I'm like, Hey, he's like, you want to come to, what are you doing on August 8th or whatever you want to come to the ACM awards? And I was like, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, and what's he asking you? - Well, because he was the host, I guess, but my point is why didn't they just tell me, and I could have been like, "Oh, like, surprise us." - Then there was all these articles about how Raleigh Green won they see him award and couldn't care less, 'cause I just was confused. So just get, you know, I don't, I can act surprised. - Right, but yeah, tell me about it. - Yeah, tell me a little earlier. If you tell me 10 minutes early, I'll just be like, yeah, I'll be like, "Oh." - Yeah, oh. - That was good, I believe that. - You did? - How you looked when I got here? - Oh, hey, that was for, that wasn't a big thing. I looked when I walked in. - Oh, you're coming. - What about me, you're trying to schedule, this was really stressful for everybody involved. You know what, everybody, my team's like, "So, are you doing?" I was like, "Hey, I don't know." I think we just said we should do this. - Well, we were supposed to do it. Here's what was happening. We did. You and I decided we're gonna do it. Your schedule also got different because you now are heading out to Raleigh 'cause you're working on the voice now. So that started to happen. And then there was supposed to, we were supposed to have Conor McGregor as supposed to be on, and there was this looming moment where it was like, like-- - Can you pick me? - No. - Can you pick me? - I didn't. His schedule was super tight. - You can lie to me for the sake of-- - Oh, I'd lie to you. But I'd just soon tell you the truth. It's just, right now, it's easier. - Okay. - But there's just like a lot of little moving parts. - If he comes while I'm here, are you gonna make me leave and come back another time? - Yep. - Maybe you'll bring coffee. Honestly, if he comes and realize you don't have coffee, he might leave. - Bro, I didn't know you said this much stuff. I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy, man. That's my bad read on you, you know? - I used to talk a lot when I got coffee, you know what I mean? I'll post our fading here soon. What a-- - So you want me to do it, the interview, what a-- - No, I got things. - Okay, I just-- - I don't know if you like studied up or whatever, man. - Oh, yeah, man. I studied up, dude. I got a good plan. - I gotta, yeah, I got a strategy ahead of me, you know? It's mild, but it is what it is, you know? - Well, listen, if you start to run out of stuff, just give me the, and I'll-- - Okay. - You know what I mean? - Yeah, dude. Yeah, if I need some help, I'm a definitely, be nice, I get a little help from Raleigh Green. - Everything's good. Everything's pretty good, man. What was I doing this one? I was texting with John Pardy this morning, he's-- - I like that dude. - He's going out on tour. He's an interesting guy. - I've been a big fan of him for a long time. - Unique voice, like, as everything's, but just kind of like an interesting guy. - He's, I'll always use him as an example. When I sounded a record deal and started having songs on the radio, I think the toughest thing to do is to be commercial enough that radio will play it, and then also still unique and cool enough that it's a good song and not just cheesy. He's always done a good job with that. He's got a lot of big songs. - Agreed, man. - Yeah, he's an authentic dude, man. And he's just-- - Oh, man, I know you put pictures of people when we're talking about him. - He's an interesting guy. - I've got a picture of me opening for him in Mobile, Alabama, with the Soul Kitchen from like 2006. - Is that where you started having me? - I know you started in Alabama, but at the Soul Kitchen, is that like a pie-- Is that a popular spot? I'm not familiar with it. - It's on Dolphin Street. I mean, yeah, it's like one of the clubs you come up playing, you know? - Got it. - Big deal for me to play it. I open for Chris Cagle there, Cory Smith there, John Party, several people, and then eventually, I got where I was headlining it and then moved to the singer and then went down and played at the floor of Alabama. - That singer's a nice over there. - It was cool, yeah. - Yeah. - You play that floor of Alabama during the break time? - I played the floor of Alabama forever. $150 a show, played for four hours. You get one free drink per break. And he played 45 minutes at the time. And I remember John McGinniston owns the floor of Alabama as a good buddy of mine and he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks. It was like Alabama spring break one week, LSU one week, you know, LSU folks love it up there. - Oh, they love it anywhere, dude. - That's true. - Anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it. - It's fermented down there. - They love it. - But I had to set my own tent up on the beach and it was like, I'd be in the shade for about an hour and then I have to move it, you know? Nobody down there listened to me. And I played it every day from 12 to four. - Well, you'd play under a tent on the beach. - Like a tent you camp with, like a tailgating tent. And I had to set my own speakers up and everything. I played from 12 to four every day. And then I would go back to the river house across the road where they would keep the bands. Band would come in and play that night and I would go party with them. And I did that every day for three weeks and it about killed me. - I am playing. - It took 10 years off my life. - Playing that early shift. - Well, yeah, then staying up all night too. I would like mosey down to the beach and get there in time to play it in the next day. - Oh, I'd be partyin' down here dude. Oh, I remember partyin' down there. We buried a guy in the sand. I don't know if he's still there. - I don't have a nerd problem. - Kind of weekend at Bernie's situation. - He looked at, I'll say this. He wasn't that great of a guy anyway. To be honest with you and I'll know that and I'll tell his daddy that. But, yeah, we've had some, I mean, who didn't have some time down there? - There's some pretty epic stories down there. - Yeah. - You broke a guy's arm one time? Arm wrestling and floor balance? - For what, just for fun or for money? - No, I mean, I didn't do it on purpose. And I wasn't for money, I was playing a show. And I took a break and I go over on the side and these guys were like, man, you're pretty big old boy, let's arm wrestling. That's for whatever reason that's what we grew up doing. - Yeah. - My dad and his brother and all of them. And I beat two or three guys and they were like, man, we're gonna get somebody to, and they brought this dude over. He was probably 40. And he's all jacked up and somebody videoed it and his arm just snapped. - Oh, yeah. - Was that a popular video that went around? I'm kind of thinking, oh, I remember singing that. - You know, we can show you right now, right? - Let me, oh, there you go. You gotta listen to it though. - Oh, come on. - Get out of the sound up. - Three, two, one, go! - Oh, my God, stop. - Dude, that's enough, man. Sorry. - How do you find that so fast, huh? - I don't know, bro, we got it. - It's on the internet. - Oh my God, dude. I love that movie over the top, you know? - Yeah. - He turned his hat around, he was serious about it. - Oh, that was a movie, I forgot about that film, man. That was a good one. You mentioned John Party. What about Ray Claystrazy? You come up around them. They were always at the bell. - I was a little bit, I mean, I was already here, I guess, by the time they were kind of touring around Alabama, but it's always a good sound when you hear somebody's name or a band and then you keep hearing it over and over again before they've gotten to a place where they're really recognized, you know, on radio and award shows and all that. Now it's awesome 'cause they've made it there. - Yeah. - They went in awards and what a cool thing. The town that you grew up in, what was the, how big was it, Jacksonville, I know it. - I don't know how many people, I mean, there's a college there, when the college is there, I think it was around 8,000 when I was going to school. - What college was it? - Jacksonville State, yeah. But it was, I mean, it was a really small town of Alabama school wasn't there and I grew up in a community right outside of there called Pleasant Valley and Williams Community and this one flashing light, one store called Green Store, E.L. Green, run the store, he's 94 years old. - Still there? - Doesn't charge tax, yeah, he just guesses what everything costs. - Oh, I love that. - He bring his makers up there, he'll be like, it's $2.00 next day, be 250, you know. But all of my granddae's and their brothers used to go out and play dominoes in the morning for work, we'd stuff in there and school. - Oh, it's cool. - A little bed and change so much, either. Look at that, there's the E.L. Right there, you got a picture of him. - So was he related to you? - Probably, look at this dude. - Probably. - A guy's a legend. - No way, that's him. - I saw him yesterday. - Dang, I want to go see him. - Come on. - My dad said they bought their basketball shoes or they played in Converse All-Stars. He sells Converse All-Stars and. - That shoes are horrible to play in. - Oh, it's like begging to break your ankle. - And you slide, you just slide everywhere. I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of, maybe some type of turpentimes. - I'd tell you what old being in the Jet Rodriguez using things, you know who that is. Remember I'm saying a lot, the guy that jumped off fence and went, "Oh, yeah." - He put those black ones there he is. - What do you put on? - Man, this, you're man is quick. - He's crossing the line. - This is easy to do with an interview like this. - Oh, easy to do with it. - You can just say anything. - Oh, yeah, look at those. What were those, something flyers or something? - P.F. flyers. - P.F. flyers, bro. P.F. flyers were a real shoe. - No doubt. - We had those ones that would, remember when those shoes came out that would blink or whatever? - You told them a light up shoes? - Yeah, and everybody would just call you like a queer all the time. - Did they say that? - What? - No. - Why would they say that? - I don't know. 'Cause your shoes were dang blank and I, I get it a little better. People like you're feet or gay or whatever. - Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. I feel like my parents wouldn't buy me those. - Were your parents, what were they like? Were they pretty strict of it here or what was it? - What was it like? I mean, it sounds like it's just a good, small time environment. It sounds like a real kind of American Southern environment. - Yeah, there's a lot about where I grew up. This kind of looks like a movie. Like going back in time. I'll bring people down there and then be like, man, it's really like this, you know? My dad built houses, my mom was a school teacher. I never got away with anything. Mom caught me. Anything I ever did. Pop's built houses for living and I used to go out and work with him and I wouldn't play in ball. So I tried to play any sport I could to keep him having to work. I was really lucky. All four of my grandparents lived in the same town. So I saw my grandparents every day. So I was really close with all of them. - That's awesome, man. - Yeah. And do you think that's what led you to riding grandpa's never die? - That's just a lot of, that's a lot of influence. - Of why Grandpa's never die? - My Grenadier Buford loved country music. He'd sit around with the old Epphone guitar when I was a kid and we'd sit around kind of play and we ended up turning his parents house. My great-grandparents into a musical. And on Friday night, all these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes and I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learn how to play like that. But yeah, that's my Grenadier Buford and my Grenadier London was a big fisherman golfer. So I'd hang out with him every day. And I wrote the song about him as a tribute. And then of course, it became a big hit for me. And I ended up putting both of them as co-riders on the song. - So. - Dude, that's awesome. - The songwriter created for him. - Bro, they must have felt, I mean, they must be so proud, huh? - Yeah, my Grenadier Buford died in 2010. So he didn't really get to see me, you know, like I have any real success. I was kind of starting out with music. But my Grenadier London got to come see me with the opera and my grandma and Nancy did. My grandma were little genes still alive. So she's probably cutting grass right now. - She loves it. - That's awesome. - Yeah, man, I definitely missed things about like that at home, man. Dude, what if Grandpa's never did die? You ever think about that? Like, 'cause there would be some side effects of it. There would obviously. - Okay, so everything in that song, there are side effects, too. There's a, if every robe was named copperhead. - Yeah. - It'd be really hard to get anywhere. - Right. - Really confusing, you know? - Yeah. - That's a good point. - Cooler's never ran out of beer. People alcohol-pulls and people would be-- - Yeah, and then they'd be out on the road, that's it. - High school home teams never lost. Everybody'd be 500 at the end of the season, you know? So there are problems. If you want to just pick apart the songs that I write, we can't-- - No, I picked it as an offense. - I was grandpa's never died, it's, yeah. - It's, first of all, it's one of my favorite songs. I can't second of all. But no, I do think like, yeah, if they never died. First of all, what would never, inheritance would never start? That'd piss some people off. - Yeah, but only people with rich grandpa's. - Right, but-- - 'Cause I mean, I, you know, but even if you had a shitty grandpa, if he had $50, you knew you was getting a little waterfall. - Yeah, but grandpa's always give you a little-- - Walking around with that other pocket. Some of my grandpa only reached into one of his pocket, and I knew that other pocket he had. - That's where it was? - Oh, yes. - Yeah, my grandmother always had a $2 bill that had-- - Yeah, that was pocket. - That had a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on. - So it was not real, but he'd give me that a lot. - But he'd give you that? - Yeah. - That's a good idea of giving fake money to children. - Yeah. - Well, you know, it keeps him out of trouble. - Yeah, that's a good point. - Yeah. - I'm trying to think of just some other interesting facts. - Okay, if Grandpa's never died, yeah. - Just like if they never died. - So a positive, I think, would be the things that I do miss about that generation was like, they were hard workers. - Yeah. - You know, I always say I was kind of the last generation to like work with my dad. Like my buddies didn't, but like, you know, now, I mean, I don't know that people get out of high school and college and really you have to bust it anywhere. You know, there's a certain amount of like work I think this lost a little bit. - We got to think, and also a lot of the trades. I mean, one thing like we've had Mike Rowan here a few times and he talks a lot about how there's not enough viable tradesmen right now. Like there's jobs. There's just not people that can fill them that have the skill sets, you know? - Yeah, we could be working and we're just talking. - Yeah. - Yeah, but also I thought my crew lived in my house for most of my childhood. My dad watched dirty jobs and deadliest catch every day. - Oh, dude. He's a, yeah, listening to his voice, it just, it makes you feel like you got to fill out a job application. Every time I hear Mike Rowan's voice, I'll fill one out online. - Yeah. - You know, or I'll buy a damn, just buy a second quick creed or something. - Just in case. - Just, yeah, I just feel like something could happen. - See, that's what I'm talking about, though. You go down to Alabama and you get up and you're like, man, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna, I'm gonna build a little pen and buy some goats. And then you just go to the store and buy, you make a list. You make it happen. - And then you go and you dig the holes and like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that. - Yeah. Oh, dude, I think there's like, I do think with society, sometimes we took a very errant path out into existence, you know, like this, like, you know, and I think there also became like a greed, you know, there's a greed has a lot to do with that. I think when somebody wants to keep leveling up, you know, so, but I think, I think we will look back at some point or generations in the future, we'll look back and be like, man, we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really mean something, you know? - Well, yeah, I mean, it's social media that's caused it. The amount of comparison you have to somebody else. - Yeah. - Also, let's talk about how mean you were talking like a couple of grandpas now about the younger generation. Like, man, these kids now, they don't, they don't know, man, I don't know what it was like, you know? I mean, when I was growing up, I had a phone. I didn't do anything. - Yeah. - You could call. If you wanted to send a K, you had to press six, seven times, you know, like it was tough. And I have social media or anything. Now, all they've known is, and I remember people I thought were rich growing up. - Oh, yeah. - But now everybody seems rich. It was like a handful of people that had money in my town, I was like, man, that's big time, you know? - Oh, dude, if somebody had a garage, dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy. - Yeah. - And he-- - It's always Jeremy. - He got a garage. And we were like, look at this mother, you know, we couldn't believe it. And but then, dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forth. - Well, we had an automatic door. - Yeah. - Oh, that's wild. - He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man, dude, was I reading the other day that the first 911 call was in Alabama? Did you know that? - The message is cute. - It could have been domestic. I think it was people, two people fighting over a baked bean recipe, probably. I mean, I don't know what-- - And I bet they didn't get it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Oh, it's their seal down there, really? Try to get a recipe in Alabama, I'll dare you. - They wouldn't, the government wouldn't un-seal it. That's how I could-- - On a hard watch. - Hayley Boyle, Alabama, 1968. - There you go, the very first-- - We started it. We launched the standard across the United States. - I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, things were kind of getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we've got to figure out a way to get help over here quicker. Or it could have been, dude, it could have been just look. Somebody's like, you know, there is a guy over here just hugging his sister in like a, in the worst way. - Nice. - You know? - Coming, there's just, hey, yes officer, there is a man over here. I mean, and he is just hugging his sister. - Yeah, I mean, I just don't know what that, I mean, that night on one call could have been anything, you know? - Honestly, what would that hug have to look like? You're sitting over there, just crushing the heater. - Yeah. - And while my parking lot, you see somebody hugging, you know, their brothers, this should go. - That's a little too long. - Yeah, that's a little too long. - Honey, give me a phone. I'm gonna call this in. It'd be out of town or they'd call it in, I tell you that. - Yeah, it wouldn't be. And it wouldn't be so much in Louisiana. I'll go ahead and tell you that, too. Louisiana, Mississippi's not making that call. They'd be like, hey, these people are stealing our style, that's what they were saying, bro. They're stealing our style. - You're smoking cigarette holding a baby? - Yeah. - Oh God. Dude, I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Ms. Robyn. And she was like our teacher. She was like our, she sounded like a teacher, Ms. Robyn. - Oh yeah, good call. And she was a damn highly cookin' me today, man. And she would, well, the other kids would do nap time, right? But I didn't really believe in nap time. I just wanted to get busy and get at it. - Yeah, I got that. - I was ready to get to work. - I was probably like that, yeah. - Even as a kid, I was like, what are we fuckin' doing? We're barely, nobody's doin' shit. We gotta take a break from that. - You get old and realize nap time was for them, not for you. - Oh. That was their break. - Dang. - Lay down for a little while. - Yeah. - You need a nap. - Yeah, I'm gonna hit this eater. And that's what she would do, though, Ms. Robyn. No, she knew I didn't sleep. And we had similar hair and so she would come and kind of hit me with her foot and that man I could go outside and she'd light up a cigarette and I would just lean on her car time. She would just tell me about her. - Smoke and look at you. - Yeah. - And she would just tell me stuff about her husband or something roger and he wasn't doing shit. - Yeah. - And she would just-- - Most rogers aren't. - Yeah. - And they called it. - Hey, listen to this, this is all about-- - Well, I got the last today. - But I'm glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in. - You know, thanks for having me. And thank you. We'll get some coffee coming shortly. The-- - You know what bothers me? When? - What bothers you, Robyn? 'Cause I bet it's a lot. - Well, one thing that really bothers me a lot, how do you look at a baby and name it roger? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, Mark Green did his name was Buford. How did you look at a baby and say, that's Buford? - That Buford right there. - And then like, think about, you're playing with the kid when he was like 10, and you're another kid, you're like, Buford, get over here, like, that's wild. - Yeah. - We had a fellow named Fremont bus, and people thought he was rich or whatever, gay, just 'cause his name was like real high-end-- - Richer gay? People thought. - One of the two-- - Did he choose a lot of? - Uh-huh, they did. - Did they roll? - Uh-huh. - Those wheelie shoes? - Yeah. - Those are the best thing he saw a kid doing that. That was a little after my generation, so I feel like, I don't know if I--we had those. And I would see kids have those. They had the Reebok pumps, and I mean, those people would pump those shoes. - I like the Reebok. I feel like I've always judged my shoes and clothing as in like, would the version of me that doesn't wear that kick the ass with the version that did, you know what I mean? - Wait, say it one more time please. - So like, the version of me that wears wheelie shoes would get his ass beat by the version that didn't. You know what I mean? - Oh, yeah. - That's why I make decisions in life. - And then you go with what you like, that's not for me. - Yeah. - Got it. - Yeah. - What's one of the best or worst bar fight you ever saw out there? - He was talking to me last time again. - Yeah, for sure. - Hell yeah. - You better get into it. - You better get into it now. - Prize picks is America's number one sports picks app. The app is really simple to use to get started. Just pick more or less on two plus players, stat projections, and lock your picks in. They're just picked teams, prize picks has that now too. Just pick the winner, spread, and total on any major game or fight. 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I mean, look, it's been, I mean, one of my goals this year is to try and learn more stuff and get a little bit more involved in kind of what's going on in the universe since I'm not torn out a little bit more time to absorb some things and just want to do that, you know. It's like how far Pluto is from Neptune or just like, or like more social things. I think no, just consume more like different types of artist work, right? Different films, just absorb more stuff. So it's like I have more things to like think about and talk about. Well, I can comprehend that. You probably like me and that I don't listen to as much new music as I used to before I got in this world, not necessarily because I'm burned out on it, and not really because I'm like, I don't want to get, you know, drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that. I just, I don't know, I just, I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to. I don't have a passion for it like I did. But I mean, like you don't probably watch a lot of stand up or I mean, yeah, you know, we're that you get removed from it when you're in it. You know, I feel like I feel that way with me. That's a good point. Yeah, you think you're in it. So there'd be you being more of it. You just got so much to be your own stuff. You got to be concerned with it. I don't. Yeah. There's a lot that goes into it, especially once you get to touring and like with podcasts and like I'll sit and watch through every single episode like I was up last night to probably, you know, 11 watching your putting notes on an episode like giving notes and like so you know stuff and like because songs will say stuff where it's like, we can't leave that in, you know, we just can't like some of those will say stuff that's slander or that's like, you know, it's like, you got to check through or send it to an attorney like there's just different things you got to do now. And so yeah, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot that goes into that. Did I hear you say that you don't have a computer? No. No, I mean, I certainly didn't. They got me one during COVID to do like zooms and stuff. And I remember my managers had me set up on this zoom interview with radio station. It didn't arrest me to go to like speed.com or something to see what my bandwidth was. And I didn't have internet at my house. And they couldn't believe that damn. Yeah. When I go home, it's a it's a disconnect from it, you know, except for I do like photo shoots or or interviews or something down there, you know, it's nice. I've started steering people that way because every time I did a shoot, we'd like rent an old truck, we'd go out to some farm somewhere standing in front of a bunch of cows. I'm like, man, I got all that in Alabama. Let's just do it down there. So yeah. Do you have, do you run in a lot of like ex girlfriends and stuff around home? What's that? What's that energy like? Because I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point. And at some point, I've had a girlfriend. Yeah. It's I'm glad you brought that up. Because you seem like a guy that's here that would have a girlfriend at some point in his life. Yes. Yeah. You're right about that. Thank you. And we just had to switch our coffee into some different cups. That was for the people watching. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Dude. And yeah, you so you just said something that's kind of interesting. Tony's cup. Oh, Tony Hill. Yeah. Oh, he's he'll be good. He's got Vivian's cup. Well, Tony used to drink heat to heat past. He did HIV. He had we washed it. Not a lot. He didn't have the big case. He had a little something light. But a lethal case all the same. He caught it in the spring. Yeah. You know, so you don't get the head. You catch that winner here. Maybe it'll it'll climb up your legs. Um, starsets of toe. Yeah. It started and then it comes looking for you. Dude, that's how to get that horrible thing to talk about. It is. We're joking, obviously. No, no, no, no. If people haven't figured that out by now, they thought we were being seen as when you explain the coffee thing. That's like, that seems like something a serious podcast you would do. Well, you have to remember that some people can't see it. Some people just listen. Half of our audience is just listeners. Oh, you're going to want to watch this one. So, so yeah, half our audience is just listening. So it's like, you got to kind of explain stuff sometimes. It was like, we just do a cut and we swap chairs. I'm like, hey, we're right back. We had to swap chairs. You know, man. Yeah. Yeah. You got to move this plant. You can do it for a different plant here. Dude, one time I got so high in taking pot in California. Yes. I was absorbed. I was doing, yeah, smoking weed. And I called down to the, if I got back to my room, it had been a long day. I called down to the front and I said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room. I was going, right? And they're like, excuse me. And they're like, I said, somebody, there's a bunch of big plants in there. Said somebody put a bunch of plants in my room. I was going, and they came up and it was just the regular plants that had been, I've been in this room for a week and I just had never really noticed in my guess. Okay. That's, that's really fun for me because I had a thing when I first got a tour bus. I've been touring for several years. I was driving the shows or whatever. So there was such a big like, that was a huge moment. Oh, it's a relief. And I took a buddy of mine out on the road with me to kind of help me, you know, whatever he was doing, assistant, whatever you want to call it. And I had this thing where when I was drinking, I would take all the plants from the lobby of hotel and put them in my room. And when I say we got a bus, I was just, I was partying back then, you know, I got after it. So as I say, yeah. And I don't know where that came from. I never wanted to steal anything. And I would always like take it back. But my room would just look like a jungle. But to any, any potted plant I could get furniture from down there, wheel them in there, what you have, you guys get them in there. We just, I just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like, you know, you see on a cartoon, really walk behind the thing like it was covering them, you know, yeah. It was a real silly thing. I remember being in a mobile, we played Marti girl down there, which is where Marti girl originated, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. And somebody asked for somebody called 911, because shit was getting weird down there. I don't know. Let's do that. Here was a moon pie down there. But the moon pie started down there, didn't they? Where's the moon pie started? Here we go. Where did they start? I don't want to, before you move on, we're going to hold that thought. Tennessee. Let's go. Chattanooga. Wow. Wendy City, the moon pie originally in 1917 at the Chattanooga bakery in Tennessee. You know Mountain Dew started in Tennessee. Did you know Appalachian cold miners wanted a snack and their lunchpales and that was how it started. God, I'd love that. When you love that, you've been in a mind all day. They requested a filling treat as big as the moon. Did they really? I just knew that. I didn't read that. That's it. That's why it's called a moon pie. Who wrote this? Oh, this is, you know, there's made up stuff on the internet? Did you know that? I figured that out last couple of years. People can just say whatever they want, put on the internet. We never figured that out. We'll just look it up and say it. Yeah. We don't really test anything out here. Well, you can just say whatever you can like, oh, nowadays you can say whatever you, I mean, what I found is all you have to say before or you say whatever you want is get ready with me. Yeah. If you say get ready with me, you can say whatever you want to for that to be true. I found that out. Did you seen that? There's videos. They'll say get ready with me and they just make up stuff. Well, it's gotten bad too. It's like get ready with me for my nephew's funeral or whatever. And I'm like, what? Why is that, dude? You know, it's like, are they're like, oh, get ready for me while I cheat on my spouse or whatever? And sometimes it's just like, this shit is not helpful to people. That's, hey, well, hold on a second. No, you're right. But there is a, there's a world where I get ready with me. Like, if you did it to go do something. Yeah, that'd be interesting. I mean, I'd be putting makeup on. You're like, you actually get ready parts going to be pretty slow. Right. You're putting your clothes on. Right. But explaining where you're going. Yeah. Same where I'm going. Get ready with me guys. Did they do looking to go fishing? I'd be good. Get ready with me to go fishing. And then talk about what lures you're going to take and stuff. Oh, yeah. Talk about my rigs. Let's do a good old boy. Get ready with me. I like that. It's not a bad idea. It's not a great idea. It's not going to, we're not going to get any doors from doing that. Yeah. Who would watch it, though? Swimbait. You'll get a lot of women watching it, dude. I think. And I'll get their friends, you know? That's right. And that's fine. I think that's okay with me, dude. You know, I just, I just thought of it. You kind of remind me of a brink. Who is it? You know, the movie brink. Uh-uh. Bring it up. Maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy. You see what I mean? Those two guys together. That's kind of, that's a man on the right. Yeah. And he's the bad guy. Man, look, immediate like hate when I look at him for me. Because you saw, you saw this movie. Yeah. But I think there was a little redemption at the end. I think he like helps somebody up after you push him down or something. Brink. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't know this actor. And sorry, dude. I did it. This guy does look also a little bit feminine in this. section in this image because he's wearing a neck. I think the necklace has a one. - It's still lips. - He's got it. - Yeah, never mind. It's a great point. The guy definitely looks kind of feminine in this. - You don't have to, you don't have to tip to her on that. - Yeah, I have to apologize, dude. He's gonna be way more offended if he wears a lot of shoes than what you just said about in "Looking Fender." - That dude will do a get ready with me. I feel like in this character would do a get ready with me. - That's fair to say. - 100%. - Okay, good, okay, good. That's what I feel like. But yeah, dude, that's gotta be warming like, I can't forget what we've been talking about. - That's okay, this is what this whole thing is. - Okay, that's what this is. - I've been doing that for 10 years. - Cool. - It seems like we start somewhere. - We'll get somewhere, but it's rubbing off on me. I did the brink thing, and I don't know what we're talking about before that. - That's okay, dude. I'll tell you this, you've done a great job of just being yourself, managing things well, standing control, confidence, and a lot of good humor. I didn't even expect it. - I was working on posture. I was hoping that was gonna come. That's not really there. - Do you want some good posture? I'll tell you where to go. - You're a funny guy, man. I'm all right. Today I'm all like, okay, today. - It's contagious, man. You be around funny people. - Do you feel like, totally honestly, do you feel like, like if I showed up at a music place, I would feel like, you know, I would sit there wishing I could do music. If you show up to a place where there is a comedy, do you feel like you have to be a funny guy? - No, no. But I think everybody wants to be funny. - Do you? That's a good question. - Okay, right. I feel like funny is probably the quickest way for somebody to like you. - That's fair. - Because, you know, when you see somebody, especially somebody that's famous, you see somebody that's famous, you're thinking, I feel like jerk. You know, it's probably, that it's people's first thought. - If you're a little self-deprecating, you kind of cut up. Oh, man, you didn't take yourself too seriously. I feel like those are people I like. - Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like it's probably especially, if you're also a handsome or guy, and a popular guy, people popping in, be a harder time about it. - You need to be real funny. - That's what you need to do. - Yeah, you know. Yeah, you gotta be real funny. Word of the wise. Did you, what was one of the best bar fights on the, you tell me that? I don't know if I asked you. - No, we went into a complete, completely different rant after that. It's always girls. Girl fights are always way more serious than God fights. I feel like, you know. And I'm always surprised too, at the song they get in a fight during. - One of your songs? - Well, there's been a couple of videos I've seen of people like getting in a fight during, which Grandpa's never died. Or I got a song called Jesus Saves, you know? And like that's a, like how do you emotionally go to blows? - Right, like Jesus saves, but he better not save that, you know. And somebody just comes across and just, and the craziest part, people, some of them that are fighting, like already will be in like a cast or something in an arm cast or something. That's a kind of shit, I don't get. - Yeah, but they just got out of a fight to come. Like they just got out of a fight. And now there is. - You know, I will venture to say this, I bet you the people that fight at bars or concerts, probably do it often, habitual. You know what I mean, those are the ones. It's probably not a lot of people. It's handful of them that are just, they keep doing it. I had buddies growing up that liked fighting. You know, they're like, they go to the ball if they were gonna get in a fight. - Right. - I feel like I got goofier, you know what I mean? I was always like, take my clothes off or like jump in a lake or something like that. You know, I don't. - Right. - Instead of the fighting guy. - Yeah, I don't, you know, like get ready with me while I go fight or whatever. Like that would be. - Put the eye black on? - Yeah. - You might go kick somebody's ass. - Yeah. - I'm about to go to a concert and fight somebody I've never met for no reason. Okay, now I'd watch that. - During Jesus' saves, get ready with me. Will I beat somebody's ass? - I'm pretty aware if you were going to get in a fight. Think about that. You get dressed for a lot of things. Knowing that there's potentially maybe you meet a girl. - That's a good question. So you put on something maybe your girl would like. - I know what I mean. - Or maybe you're gonna be, it's gonna be hot. - Well, let me tell you, I'm gonna be comfortable. I'll tell you what you do if you were gonna fight. - It's a great question. Thank you. - Boots would look intimidating but they wouldn't be as good for fight as tennis shoes would. - I agree. Roller shoes would not be good. Light up shoes might distract. - But roller shoes might be good. Say if you're on a hill, hit the guy and then you just activate him and you roll right down hill in your home, you're back at the house. You know, if you had a strategy like that. - That would be good if you were gonna run from a fight. If you were gonna try to escape a fight. Like you think somebody's gonna kick your ass to this place you're going and wear roller shoes? - Yes. - I gotta go. - I'm out. - Yeah. - And like you ain't leaving and you're like, watch this. - Well, this is. - You just lift the front of your feet up. - That's what I'm saying. But like no other part of your body has to move and you just look back and your hair's just flowing as you just, oh. - That's cool. - Honestly, I changed my opinion about this. - That would be nice. - Yeah, dude, there's some check out there. She's in an arm cast or whatever. And she has a dog. She says she does, but it's been taken or whatever. It's got my CPS. And. - Did child protective services? - It is. - They take dogs. - They take dogs? - Oh, yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good. - She says she has a dog, but it's gone. - Yes. - Did you got a cast? - Yes. - I feel like I'm there now. - And she's like, get ready with me while I go over there. - Over the snooker. - I'm getting my dog back. - Yeah, over the snooker's tavern or whatever. I'm beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight. - Yeah. - And then she probably puts on nice earrings. - Yeah, I guess you can take them out. 'Cause ass intimidation right there. - That's a move, dude. - Think about it. - I'll honestly, I wish, yeah. - I wish I had 'em. - Just for. - Would you ever wear these? - Think about this. - Do you ever have your ears peed in the bar? And we just disgruntled. You know what I mean, we're just disagreement. I don't know what it is. I can't even imagine. 'Cause we're good old boys, but let's just say we, we're not about it. Same girl or something. - Yeah. - And we're like, 'bout to go down like, "Are we doing this?" And you're like, "Oh yeah, and I just. " - And we're gonna fight each other? - Yeah. - I mean, wouldn't that be something for you? - You're gonna get her. - No, no, no, no. - And no judge, you're gonna get her. Like, I would rather be like, "You're gonna get her." - Yeah, but it's just a pretend thing. Sorry. - Yeah, okay. - You're mad at me. - Okay, and you take your earrings out? - I'm like, "Oh, shit, you need it." - She's about to go down. Yeah, he'll never take his earrings out. You know, he didn't even take them out when we went on the water slide after, you know, senior year or whatever. - See how it makes it hard for us to be at a fight 'cause we were hanging out senior year on a water slide. That's a good point. But you didn't take your earrings out then, dude. You're taking them out now. You're here to beat some ass. - Yeah. - Huh. Yeah, dude, I think if I got in the fight, I thought about this now, I would wear a nice suit. 'Cause the story after would be like, "Man, you see that dude in that suit? Beat that guy's ass." - He beat his ass in a suit. - Yeah, that's cool. - And then he went to work probably. And then he went to work. - See how his picture ended like a wedding suit, like a Toxito, but you're talking about like a suit like you work on Wall Street. - I took a business suit. - Yeah. - Or just work on any street, like some people, you know. People used to get dressed up a lot more than they do now. Think about that. Think about the fact that on a daily basis, people would get dressed. Like people took a, like there was a lot more, I think caring concerned about how they looked, bring up some images of people, how they dressed, it's say, 70 years ago. - I didn't grow up around that. - Well, not for us. I'm talking about two generations earlier. - Oh yeah, in city or something, yeah, I mean. - No, I think you do. - I feel like a person that dressed nice, we had a nice job when I was growing up, was like the bank president. He used to wore polo shirt with khakis. - Yeah. - You know, like my mom wouldn't let me wear that church, and that was fancy then, you know. - Oh yeah. But look at people dressed, I think snazzy. Do you think that's true? Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it. - Well, I will go along with like the whole, you know, like sweatsuits to the bar. It's got, and that's what I'm saying. It's gotten pretty casual. - It is. - Like there's like, dude, there's, there's even men's shoes at aloe, at aloe, or whatever it's called, aloe. And it's crazy now. We're so dumb, it's aloe, and I'm not gonna say it. - What is it? - Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. - I agree, dude. What is it? - Bailo. - But yeah, I'm just trying to think, was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there? - I think there's one that stood out, 'cause that much time at floor, ma'am and dude, that's a lot. So floor, ma'am was always a place you could get. - I never saw a lot of fights down there, yeah. - You could get your stomach pumped, and you could get a lot of splinters. Do you see a place you get a lot of splinters at? - Good, yeah. - Like everybody in that bitch had a splinter, dude. If people were doing the stanky leg, 40 people would get a damn splinter in there. - There's a vibe about that place. You know, beach bars, too, we got a little more. Like, Jimmy Buffett laid back. Let's all get along, have a good time. - Yeah, yeah, so it's good stuff. - It really is. I do remember, all the NFLs in Louisiana played at the Texas club. - Not even Baton Rouge. - Baton Rouge, yeah. And I remember I was about the sign of record deal. I had somebody from a label down there, and I was horribly sick. Like, threw up for the show, like just trying to get through it. It was one of the worst, right before show, sickness I've had. And somebody got in a fight during the last song. And I was like, "Hey, like, I'm not going out with him." And I couldn't get their attention. They were still like going at it. So I, they were closer to the front. I took my guitar off, and I poked the guy in the back. And I was like, "Hey, let me play one more song." And then we'll all go out back and just beat the shit out of each other. And everybody just cheered. The two dudes were like, "Hi, five." And then we went through and got the song done. - Oh, that's great. Yeah, that's what people, 'cause some people just want to plan. You know, some people just don't know how they're like, "Well, five guys, well, right now." And it's like, "Yeah, you come along a little bit "of strategy for people there. "Some people will follow suit." When a leader shows up, people will follow. That's what's kind of wild sometimes, you know? Even in an instance like that, I think. - Well, it's a little bit of like, you go at somebody, you know, the car situation with a little calmness too. Okay, listen, you're on a fight. - Right. - But we can do it. It's fine. - Yeah, let me give it a shot. - Let me, let me, I got this one more song. - Yeah. - Let me play this song. And then back to the fight. And they were like, "Oh, that's a rest reasonable." - Yeah. - Just be reasonable. Yeah, be reasonable, dude. Um, what was I looking at? Oh, I saw you like you, you do a good bit of hunting there. Do you hunt, do you hunt out on your property out there in Alabama? - I do a lot of turkey hunting out there. I usually go up north deer hunting. - We think about turkeys. - I think about 'em a lot. - You think they're one of the best birds or not? We had Steve Ranella on here. - No, no. - He had the best bird to just, in general. - Steve Ranella gave 'em top bird, he said, he said. - For what? Like what's the, he said that? - What stipulations are you going by? They don't fly that good. - Yeah. - I, look, I agree with you. But I'm saying as he said, they were the best bird. And I said, well, look Steve, I just, I, you know, I begrudge him kind of like a supported him 'cause he was going through it when he said it. - For, for, just because we're so close to. - And there he is with one right there. Oh, he loves him so much, that one looks dead. - He's got to be talking about hunting birds. Like I would think like a eagle's an easy win for best bird. - That's it. - Chevin, what do you think he said? - He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers, whereas turkeys are highly intelligent. They, their heads change color based on their mood. - They do that? - Yeah, so he was all about it. - Yeah. So, but then he's also deceasing them. So that's kind of an interesting concept. But he loves them. - Turkeys are the most challenging bird to hunt. - Yeah. - Buffar, yeah. I hunted turkeys for two or three years before I even got close to killing one. - Really? - Yeah, my dad didn't hunt. I kind of just taught myself how I just was interested in. Yeah, like they're, they're tough. - Especially down those eastern birds down there, they're tough, man. - We went and hunted some occiolas down in, uh. - Florida? - Yeah. And it was interesting to do the group. - It's a little different down there. So it was flat. You're hunting in the hills and mountains. You know, you got a bird that's calling. You're calling to him. You think he's right there, but he's two ridges over. He's not, you know what I mean? You got to know how the land lays. And you think he's gonna pop right over top of the hill and he walks around the side and spots you for the seams, tough. - Yeah, I think maybe the place we wanted was a little bit easy. It might have been like sort of like a beginner's or like summer league or whatever. - It was you and Caleb, you're on Michael Waddell. - Michael Waddell? - Yeah, we're goofing off. I saw that. - They wouldn't even let me have a gun. - Yeah. - So I thought that wasn't cool. - I get that, yeah. - But then the second part was, dude, uh. - They, what did you wear? You put camouflage on. - Yeah. - You're like, you're one of the city pool. - Yeah, they did well. - First of all, they didn't even send a fan-flitter or anything of my wool we were supposed to wear. They gave no directions. - So they had some stuff for you? - Yeah, they had some stuff down there. And it was good, dude. The food was great, we had a great time, but I agree it was flat, so that's an easy place to shoot them. And dude, so we were out there and we maybe saw a summer, maybe didn't see some. I don't remember what happened. But afterwards we were leaving and there's like a couple like the games over, whatever. It's like around 11 a.m. There was a couple turkeys just hanging out in the ditch, right? And like, you know, it's over. Like we were over there hunting them and we happened to just see some over here. - Yeah. - It's like, you know, like during the locker room, the games over, one of them has a towel around his neck. The games Texan is, Texan is wife or whatever. - Is that worry about it? - Yeah, yeah. When I was taking his feet off, you know what I'm saying? When I was taking his wings off, he's just a fucking sparrow with a fucking morning job. You know? - But we got him. - Yeah, yeah. And fucking, they're like, let's shoot him. I'm like, dude, the fuck, that's not fair, you know? - Yeah. - Like I just want to be a fair challenge. That's the thing sometimes with hunting. I do like, I had a great time. I would like to go duck hunting as something I would like to do. - I know I got it. But that is a fair, that's a fair, like I just like a little bit more of a fair challenge, you know? - Well, you go out in the woods, like in my farm with a call, first of all, you have to forget how to call. - Yeah. - You can't have a flage and you go out there and like try to kill a bird on your own. It's tough. You know? - Like with no weapon? - No. You could take a weapon. I just mean like, you call and one is not the easiest thing to do. And then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see. - Oh, that's pretty quick. - I like turkeys. - We'll have one sneak up on you. - Yeah. And turkeys, because they're not going to come in the way you want them to, you go and you pick your spot, but he's going to try to come in where you can see you from as far away as you can. You know? Wherever that hand is that he thinks he's going to see. Yeah. They kick my butt for so many years. - Yeah. Yeah. I saw that you call him. You do a call. Can you do a regular key to you right now? - No. I mean, I use a, like a diaphragm or I got a slate call or a name like call. - A slate call. - No, that's something. That one's fucking. Yeah. - That was him. That was him. - That's from Key West, I think, but let me try it one more time. - Oh, that's, yeah. That's pretty good. - It's pretty simple because the goal is you're trying to do it one more time. - Yeah, that's better. - That's it. See how you use your chest? - Yeah. - Yeah. That was good. - Yeah. - That's cool. - Yeah, that's nice, man, dude. And when people get out there with those calls, I love guessing what birds, different birds. There's so many birds out there. It is kind of interesting how some birds you can hunt them, but so many birds you can't hunt them. Yeah. Oh, do you think that is a, these taste good kind of thing? Because I've never heard anybody that be like a cardinal's delicious. Those birds don't have a lot of them. Turkey's got a lot of meat on them. Dove and Fezin are obviously really good birds eat duck or good to eat geese. You think that's what it is? You think that traditionally Indians, whatever it was back in the day, like started hunting birds. They ate and they ate some robins and then they're like, that's not good. And then we just adapted to that and I'm like, these are the ones we're going to hunt. - I bet you're probably right. I bet there was always also some pervert always eating a blue jay or whatever off on the side. Like, look at this little weirdo. I mean, because I don't think people eat like skunks either, you know, maybe like Louisiana, but I mean, no, I mean, raccoon people eat a lot. My brother would kill raccoons and he would put nose up at the church and see if people had any in their area and he'd go get him or whatever. But yeah, I guess that is a good point. You kind of eat whatever's the most plentiful because you also had to feed a lot of people. It's like you're like, you know, if you're just out there hunting for one all day, it's kind of like. - I mean, Turkey's are from back like settler days. - Yeah. So that's what. It was like the guy in turkeys that came over on the boat. - Yeah. And if you saw a fat turkey, people like, hey, bring some lunch and you bring some one dude brings a turkey and one dude brings a little night and gale or whatever, it's like the duty in the night and gale. - If they brought like a night and gale stew, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - Yeah. You're like, that's a fucking weirdo. I think making that shit all night. - Yeah. - Blue jay casserole. - Yeah, dude. - That ain't. - That ain't a sound good. - Something dude out there. - Yeah. - Did it make him a whooping crane omelette or something? What about some swan nuggets? Not him, it just sound good. You ever eatin' swan? You know, they also don't hunt a lot of real pretty birds either though, you know. I don't eat swan. No. - I'd have a little. - You would have a little? - Yeah. - If you want to thanks, give it a swan. I bet they. I bet the. I bet Trump's eating it. - It would look like a silver platter like with the. - Yes. If they kept the. - The arctic. - You got to make sure you keep the. - Anywhere worth going is worth going and a pair of good boots. Find your perfect pair with Tacovas. Tacovas crafts quality western boots for everyone, everyone. From generational ranchers and lifelong cowboys to first time boot buyers. Tacovas boots are handcrafted with over 200 meticulous steps for broken-in comfort right out of the box. Pass up or dress down boots that go from festival to dinner, no problem. I wore my Tacovas the other day, right into the Franklin rodeo, right at home, baby. And then I'll warm to the DMV to get me a driver's license renewal. They can handle it all. 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You will also receive an additional 10% off plus free overnight shipping on your first order in case you need it quick. Visit bluechew.com for more details and important safety information. We thank bluechew for sponsoring the pod and the bedroom. Let me see, Raleigh is doing calls here. What do you got at your piece in or something, how do you know that? Are you sure? I'll show it a second ago. Oh, let's see. I'll start the show. Oh, it is? It's a duck call. Let's go. Let's go, dude. I've never seen anybody catch that. Catch the duck call is the and I do it at every show. Yeah, people are there like signs throw me the duck call They never catch it. Well, I don't want to judge these people, but a lot of them could be women That's a and that is judging them. I'm gonna take that what you said was exactly what you said you weren't gonna say It was what you said you were gonna Brought you haven't seen the league of their own what the heck yeah, I have duty for maybe a duck calls hard to catch Maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to maybe a great Catchers and there's you're kind of throwing look like you weren't throwing it easily towards them You know, I don't know. Let's get questioned man What a you're on your biggest tour right now. Is that true? Yeah Every year it was a little bigger has it been yeah, it's been great Yeah, what's the fear like about that? We were talking about this the other night, dude You know kind of had a conversation the other night of a couple weeks ago. Yeah, we're talking a little bit about just like when Like as your career goes along the pressure it feels like like You know like what is the rest of your career going to be like and how do you try to shape that if you can? Yeah, and how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with however things go there's a certain amount of I'm already accomplished way more than I ever thought I would so there's a there's a peace of mind in that and you know There's also a little bit of I'm guarantee to certain career at this point, you know Even if I never have another hit I can go tour and you know I can make a living support my family whatever I need to do so There's there's peace in knowing that but I think the competitive part of me and like we talked about the other day is like When I have a hit or win an award or whatever it is I don't feel like I can relax now, you know I've accomplished that it's really more like okay now I got to go do the next thing. I got to take I mean I think I always say that it's I want to try to get as much out of the opportunities I've got as I can because it I mean What you're doing and what I'm doing is very Rare, you know to be able to have the opportunities you've gotten to be able to go and and do some acting and stand-up comedy and have a podcast It's just popular in the successful so I'm a I feel pressure in that Regard of just like I want to go and be as successful as I can but it's not necessarily nervous thing Certainly not with the shows getting bigger. That's that side of it is not a pressure thing because I mean the fans make it enjoyable When you go to a show and you got a sold out arena for your stand, they're excited. You're there. Yeah, it's easy You know, yeah, well yeah, I guess with stand-up. It feels like it's a I can't tell do you lose does the does the venue lose intimacy? With music because it is as it gets bigger with stand-up It does you feel sometimes like man, I wish I could connect with people. It's just the way it is But I don't know if music is if it's the same like that. I did a stadium tour with Luke Holmes and That's that's too big like I feel like there's no way the person in the far back top row is getting there Money's worth at a concert, you know, and you also lose some sound too You have to have two rows of speakers one halfway through it's there's so much reverb and bounce back And then you think about how much of a pain is to go to that show the traffic to get in for a fan and then you know It to be able to find a place to park and all that I just any charge on the park to a lot of time And then you got you know the fact that it's also an open air stadium You got weathered issues and and your openers are starting in the daytime So they don't get the you know the full effect of the lights and everything and so Reeners has always felt like a great place for me And I and you still have an intimate show you still feel close to everybody feel like everybody got their money's worth But it's still you know 20 25,000 people. Yeah Yeah, I guess like yeah that intimacy yeah the intimacy get gets lost I think it's certain levels kind of and so you try your best. You try to figure it out, you know Yeah, I guess it's kind of interesting as your career goes on You're like man, this has been and arrest and it's been fun to have this experience Yeah, and you want to keep it going you want to like try your best and you also want to challenge yourself too Because you got to evolve too like I think you're me Does it feel like your music kind of has to evolve as you do with your life like like because one time I sat down with There's this famous comedy manager on a set with him and he goes you know at a certain point if you stay the same your audience will kind of day age will grow older and yeah, so you have to like also like Because it's almost a trap like I want to stay this. I want to stay this song, you know like Because if I can see you get an earth first hit or something like that You're like well, I can't ever be different than this per you know the person that sings that song because I may lose people I you know, I'm saying does it make any sense? Yeah, I think that the what your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of You know that may have been true 10 15 years ago before social media was as relevant as it is But now if you do something well like your stand-up videos or your podcast or whatever it lives forever So the next generation, you know, whereas when you had a song on the radio 10 years ago It lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it. It was over. It didn't live anywhere else now Everything you do lives on the internet forever. So if you're doing something well I would really especially like up and coming ours I would advise against trying to do anything to different for me what I always do is I try to make sure I've got songs on my record every record that are Riding from the same place I started writing from that are very me and then I try to take a few songs and write that are Little stylistically different just to go to ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit But but so you would but so it that is me like so you're saying that you can change because the thing you did will still stay out there So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of if you're doing something different like yeah I just think you don't turn in a run from something that was successful You know and like with country music, you know, it's scary to do that for sure It is yeah, and but then I'm I guess it's I'm thinking like do do like I guess I wonder sometimes it's like yeah Do you try to stay that like do you try to make your life fit this this certain time? You know I'm saying a little bit I'll give you an example and I know you've done some acting is You know I imagine in your role you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from What you do and who you are mm-hmm, so I did marshals and and like my first grinds it was Luke it was great and and I I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different, you know I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself into that world and then kind of go on That's how I am with music is I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do But it's not gonna be I'm not going straight pop. You know, I'm not gonna do something totally different I think melody wise. I'll try some things out and see if it works But just keeping that familiarity and what you've done well for so long I think it's extremely important now because I think the best thing you can be is different Not necessarily from your something you've done before but from everybody else Mm-hmm, you know, I mean what you you're stand up and you're humor on this podcast. I don't know anybody else it's I mean You know weird way Norma Donald like the the the dry sarcasm of Norma always thought he did something that was so unique And I don't know who I would compare you to, you know Yeah, I think you always kind of like Yeah, I don't know. I guess you want to be like you want to try and like honor yourself as much as you can I think with humor it's hard to pretend to be somebody else And I think with music if somebody if you pretended too much and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you Then it would kind of start to you'd be able to see that after a while. I think fans can tell I think that well I don't think you'd have a ton of I know I think the longevity wouldn't be able to be there because yeah You're playing if you especially if you're trying to place somebody else's a authenticity is really It's so obvious now again cuz social media. I mean 10 years ago You get a song on the radio and people not necessarily know what you look like. Yeah, now they know everything about you My dog's got a hundred and fifty thousand followers on Instagram. Is he really? Yeah, I mean people know everything about you So if you're not authentically what you act like you are people are gonna figure it out You think your dog knows he has that many. Yeah, no way. Oh, man. That dude He when the camera's on him. He's a different person What yeah, and where's he from? I mean he lives in Jacksonville Alabama. He lives on my farm. He's in playing cards. What the fact dude. Yeah, folded He lives like that. There's Carl him. Oh, he's handsome. That's a Stokey. What's that dog called a Stokey's a cigar He is a corgi and a blue heeler coax. Oh blue healer, huh? Damn his native American Don't know probably look it up blue healer Blue healers native American. Oh, no, I do you know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen ask on the internet. No, blue healers are not native Americans made of America's Man is shit like a fake. I'll have you have been like that completely wrong. Oh, it's crazy Where'd you get that from? I don't know blue healers are native American. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised look up with dogs are native American Some of them have to be huh, how do we get them Dogs native to North America fall and I look up what type of people think dogs are native American Seriously, I was curious about that. Well, when you look up What would possess a person to think a dog was a native American? Can we look that up? Hey, tell me about the acting. Do you enjoy it? Yeah, I'll tell you about it this second I want to finish this conversation right? I think this conversation is done You said that dog is a native American and no dogs are native American. How about this? Well look look look up this How about this what what dogs were owned popularly by native Americans? Just but it's changed so much since what you I don't think it has. I'm saying okay. Here we go, but please Indian dog Okay, uh Sosh wool dog. Well popular historical and in a little bit as we're going back then. Oh - You remember the Taco Bell dog? - Yeah, I remember it, dude, but this, I'm gonna talk about real native of it. - That's the first famous dog I remember. - You think? - Except for the one that has a cigar that has questions at the. - Oh, the. - You know what I'm talking about? - He's not a real dog, so that I guess it doesn't count at all. - That's a puppet. - Yeah. - So, ask what puppets are Native American? - Can you look up what types of people think puppets are real dogs? - Please. - That's funny, I like that. - Oh, fine. - I'm glad we got one funny thing today. - Fine. - What time have you got? - It's not funny stuff, but you're really, you're having it finally. - Well, finally, we'll play Raleigh Ball. I didn't know we were playing. - I forgot it was a puppet per second. Okay, I will say that. - You didn't see the guys on? - You didn't see the guys hand in a sock, acting like a dog long enough. Eventually it becomes a dog, dude. - Well, look, if I see a guy's hand in an animal, I freaking know what's going on. They don't seem right, but, you know, that was probably the show about County Fair. - That was probably, yeah, shut out already. But if we all know. - That's why they run with those chairs at the front. You know, they wanna see the show. - That's probably what the first nine one one call was all about right there. There's a man with his hand up an animal over here. Bring it back to those Native American dogs. I do wanna know what they were. And I wanna see a little JPEG of them or a drawing probably. If you can see that, please. I'm serious. I just wanna know which dogs they were. - I'm gonna get you a hand-painted oil-based painting of a dog with just Native American things on it. - I mean, like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything. - That's it, I should not have any. - And a coffee maker. - Plains Indian dogs. American Indian dogs found across the great plains. These dogs were essential beasts of burden. They were used to pull V-shaped wooden sleds called Travois, loaded with meat, household goods, and children before horses were introduced. Wow. So they used to use dogs to do like field plowing. The Salish Wool Dogs kept by the coast Salish tribes in Washington State and British Columbia. These small white fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep. Their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles. - Dang. - Read the next one. - The. - The zalaphone. - This is it. The zalat, it's it. - It's cool. - Tilly. - Welcome back to Puppy Talk. I'm Riley Green with my guest, Theo Vaughn. - And I'm here also today. We're so happy. We're gonna look at the bone structure of a zualis. - Yee-li. - Yeah. - And they are a Native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. These dogs were kept as pets, guards, and physical heaters. Do you imagine that? - I can't even imagine it. - What do you mean? You get the dog tonight. - That's hairless. Mexican hairless dog is a wild-looking dog. - Oh, that shit ain't nothing. Look at that little bad boy. Look at the one down there. - I'll say I saw all the one you're looking at. Yeah. - Oh, boss, I love this. - If you put him on the commercial with Willie Nelson playing, you were always on my mind. - Yeah. - I would give the money. Whatever it is. - You were all away. He looks like he's got farm aids, dude. That thing is a tough run right there. And that was a pretty good joke. Dude, I was really going to maybe close one off for a while. Like, yeah. - I'm just joking. Shout out Willie Nelson. And farm aid, dude, I just saw Billy Strings this weekend. Actually, I went there where him, Steve and Wilson Jr., Cheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, Lucas Nelson, they had a show outside of Austin. - Lucas is great. Steve and Wilson's so talented. - So talented, man. - That's awesome. - That'd be a cool thing to see. - Oh, it was just great to be over there, man. How was the acting? Let me think. It was just like a lot going on. It took like, I wish I'd had had more time to work on the character, and we were wearing a lot of hats. - Yeah, so when you're doing a lot of stuff, it's a lot. - Yeah. - And you don't think it's not gonna be, you know? - We were, I was on tour and we were filming in Park City, Utah from Marshall, so I was flying every week to Utah, playing three or four days, or filming, then go play shows and fly back. And I feel like I didn't know enough about the character. Like, I was getting the script for like that day, and I didn't know any of the back story. So when I went and watched it, there were so many things I would have done differently. I was about to know this about the character of that, and I would have really enjoyed it if I could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month, you know? - Yeah. - Also, it's really bothering me a lot, just to think about if you knew that that picture of that dog was on there, and you went on a dog, Native American dog rant, just so you could say farm aids, 'cause if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And two, how much preparation would that take? I mean, like, that would be coming into the interview. Don't worry about learning anything about the guy that's here, like me, you don't have to know any of my songs or anything, but if I can come up with a way to say farm aids with a dog, that'd be awesome. - Yeah, I wouldn't, that's insane. - I don't know if I'd like the version you better that did that or the one that just came up with, I don't know. - That didn't, that's a good question, actually. - Either way, I like you. - That's a lot of thought. Well, thank you. - Yeah, I've been sitting here hoping you would. - I just decided, just now. - Oh, I knew the coffee thing threw me off. - I knew the jury was out. - Yeah. - Yeah, what do you think? So one thing you said a little while ago, you said that like, like, like achievements, right? Like they'll keep you going, but do you feel a lot of achievement? Like if you achieve something, do you really feel it? Or does it feel like, like you don't strike me as the kind of guy that feels a lot of like, like that sit there and relish some, like if you, like something does happen to you. Like you get an award, you get this certain thing. It's just like part of the thing. - Yeah, I think you get a little numb to it, especially when you're so busy, you know, you get a little, you don't really, I guess for lack of a better term, sit back and appreciate it. I try to make myself live in the moment a little more, but for me, I look at a lot of the things that happen as like checks, you know, not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things, but I'm like, man, when I, you know, ACM awards or whatever it was, we went a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is. I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance. That's got to go well. I need to, you know, figure out the song and make sure it goes well when it does and I get the award and I got a little speech or something. I make sure that goes well and then I'm like, okay, I went well and it's like a little bit of relief, but not necessarily like a accomplished this. And also, that's just a little bit political, you know what I mean? The best song is always win and for me, I think I appreciate a lot more a sold out show. Like when fans are there and they're like, singing a song that I wrote and it like, I can tell it means something to them. There's emotion in it. Like that means more to me than an award, you know? - Yeah, I guess I'm just wondering like, do you feel like you're good at like feeling pride for yourself? Like that sort of thing, you know? 'Cause that's something, sometimes I've struggled with that. It's like, I don't think too much about it, but it's like, man, sometimes that is, like if somebody's like, man, do you feel proud of yourself? I don't feel that a lot of times. Does that make any sense to you? - Oh, I think that, I mean, it does make sense. I think that you gotta find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about. Like for me, it's not musical achievements. For me, I feel proud about my form. I feel proud that I could put my parents in a nice house about my dad a truck or whatever. I feel more for that than anything I ever bought myself. - Right. - And like my niece and nephew sending me pictures, my sister of them catching fish in my lake. Like I'm proud of like that. And those are things that I know will last forever. And, you know, I mean, there's a little bit of song right and proud. I think when I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself and I think it was good. It made me feel something and when people relate to it, like I feel proud about that, but that's a little short lived, you know, like a joke that really lands. I think that you gotta find things in life that you constantly want to be attached to, you know. And for me, it's stuff like my farm and you know, having a little place at the beach or something, my folks going down there. I, when people send me pictures of my beach house saying, man, this is nice, we had a great time. That's what I feel proud of. You know, things I never thought I'd have. - Hmm. And where's the, I think you said Panama City Beach, you gotta place down there. - Yeah. - That was so funny. - What did you say, you said those my favorite thing about you? - Well, my favorite thing that I heard do when somebody's like, man, I got me a beach house down in Panama City Beach, that shit just made me laugh. It's because what I remember of it from being in like high school in college, it was just a place where we were just trashed kids, you know. So to like, so just to see a text or something, we got a beach house down there. And I know it's a nice beach. I know the golf is nice, man. It's like, there's not a part of the golf, it's not even like built up now, man. It used to be so different. - Yeah. - No, I mean, I'm right outside of Panama City and it's a little quieter where I'm at. But yeah, now we all had our spring break, trips to Panama City and it was rowdy. - Yeah. Right now you got, I'm trying to think was there something that you guys wanted to talk about that was specific? Oh yeah. - I'm Raleigh. (laughs) - Get ready with me. Well, Raleigh gives me a hard time. You got a new album that's coming out in September, September 18th, I think? - Yeah, that's just me, it's a name of the album. Put three songs on the album out. Last week a song called Go Again. The Girl in Handman, Forilins on that song. The song called Think As You Drunk. It's my new single Country Radio in a song called My Way. There you go. And yeah, the album's gonna come, we're gonna put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then, but the album will be out in 19 songs. Comes out September, so. - Hell yeah. - Do you feel any type of way about this album different than other albums? Do you feel pressure to get, well answer that question first if you don't mind. Yeah, what's different about this album or what's kind of the same? - I think it's, don't mind if I do that record, I think had a lot of different types of songs on it. I think that's something that I did well on that one. I made sure this one was the same way. I got a lot of songs that sound like stuff I've written for years. Then I got a lot of songs that are a little different. I got fun, beach, songs. I got drinking songs. I got love ballads. And so I think that that's what I'm excited about. The album is, I think, as a whole. It's a good project. But again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music. It's always, what I've done so far has kind of worked. Yeah. What about in your outside of music life, outside of your pharmacy like that? Do you think your guy there probably is an easy time meeting ladies? Do you feel like settling down is in the future? Like, have you ever think about that? Well, I feel like you know better than that because you're in that world too. Like, it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we're doing. I mean, I'm not gonna meet a girl to show. I mean, I'm confined to the back on a bus and I'm not gonna meet a girl on Instagram. And when you get to a place where people are, you know, it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what. And I always feel like if I met somebody that was like a fan, I feel like it would be tough for me to be like, you know, I would look at him. I'm like, you're probably the same way too, as I go in a bar and when people start, but you get a little bit like, makes you uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean, I don't mind being the center of attention at like a show, or if I'm in a town I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or a bar down the street, but like, I don't like being the center of attention or I'm not supposed to. That always makes me feel like. I agree. I don't like to feel like if I went to another show and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage, that would make me feel really rude. And also, like a restaurant, it's not that people ask me for a picture bothers me. It's just, I don't want to be standing up, causing a scene now in the center of attention. Yeah, I don't like that. So, you know, when you, like, I'm not gonna meet a girl at the bar, you've been to losers and duck blind with me and we sit on the back deck away from everybody, you know, kind of hiding. Oh, dude, one night I sat out there by myself on losers' back porch and I was watching Netflix back there. Yeah. Just watching too. I watched two episodes of something. Yeah. Well, no, it's, it's tough. Is it cake, I think it was? Yeah. I feel like if I could be in one place for a while, like, live somewhere, that's another thing. I don't feel like I live anywhere. Got a house in that school. And I'll stay there every once in a while. I've got a farm house. And you always felt like that? Well, you must not. Your farm must feel like some type of way to you. But have you always felt like you didn't live somewhere? It's kind of interesting feeling, bro. I've never heard anybody say that. And I've related that a hundred percent. I've never really felt like I lived somewhere. Well, my farm is like, by the time I get there, I'm already thinking about I got to leave again. Like, I'm there for two or three days. That's not long enough to really get settled in. You don't really know which way to go where you're there. But no, when I was in the construction work, playing shows in the weekends, I'd be home every night. Like, that was, no, that was, this always felt like home to me. But right now, I just don't live in one place. You know, I fly to LA every week and on the road on the weekends. But if you think if you keep it like that, though, then do you think that there's a possibility that's something good change that you could like, you know, meet somebody, start a family with that type of lifestyle? - No, right. - Not the way it is now. It's gonna have to change in the sense of like, well, you talked about your coming off tour and not knowing what to do with yourself. I've got to get to that point. I would love to try to get bored of being at home. I just, I can't remember the last time I had a week off. You know, I mean, maybe you're on Christmas. - Yeah. - But I played shows until January, I mean, December 27th, last year. You know, so I mean, it's, it's a, if I could, and right now I can go take a month off. I could, but I just can't, with everything going on in the opportunities I've got, I can't make myself do it. So I'm sort of like, grind right now, keep my nose down, say yes to everything. And then in a couple of years, things will stop doing this, no kind of playing off. And I'll have this career. And I'll say, I don't play 40 or 60 shows a year. I might film a little TV show or a movie or whatever. And then I can have a life outside of it. You know, but it's just tough to do right now. But do you start to think about trying to, 'cause yeah, 'cause here's the thing. Like, you, there will always be probably, I don't know if there will always be opportunities, but there's always like things you can say yes to. You know, like, are you at a spot where you can kind of cater it a little bit more and kind of shape it, how you want it? - I am. - Are you still in a space with a little bit of fear of like, if I don't do this stuff, you know? - The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now, my career is in such an upward slant. The things I'm getting asked to do, I can't say no to. - Wow. - They're hosting CMA Fest or being a coach on the voice. I mean, you got to think there's one country music artist that's a coach on the voice. - That's a good one. - I mean, Blake Shelton, Reeva's been on there. Like, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity and you got to think about all the people in country music that are so lucky to be where they are and have the careers they are. And they don't even have that opportunity. - Yeah. - You know, so, did you get to audition for that opportunity? - They met with me and I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I got what they wanted. And they want somebody that's sort of funny, sort of dry that cuts up and they came to a show and I had a little Q&A with somebody beforehand and we cut up back and forth and then I went on Jimmy Fallon and they got me on the couch and we had a little duck call moment, you know, it was funny and that's how I got the job, you know. I was just goofing off doing this. - Yeah. Did it feel, does that feel like a, I don't know, I mean, it's just interesting 'cause it's kind of a mainstream thing but it's also a thing that kind of like you're saying, yeah, like a, like a, like a tunnel, like it, like, kind of makes you a tunnel in a way. It kind of puts you in a different perspective. - It's very household. - Right. - And it's very outside of the genre of country. So, you know, I would guess that most of my fans are country music fans, you know? I can tell it, I can tell it from the first day of filming. I'm the least famous person as a coach on the voice right now with the people that are fans of the voice. Kelly Clarkson's been on it forever, Adam Levine's been on it forever, Queen of Teeth was on it with me and she's iconically famous, you know? So, the fact that I can tell I'm not as well-known in that world only tells me how much I'll gain from it because it's put me in front of so many different people, you know? - Did you ask somebody like, do I think this is, oh, how fast is a chair go? - I mean, a little-- - Like you said, can you do it? - About like you would turn normally in an office chair. If somebody said, hey, look at this Native American dog. - Get ready with me while I look at this Native American dog. - Yeah, yeah. - It's not gonna throw you out of the chair. - Yeah. - Okay, got it. If you had someone sit on your lap but it turned slower, you think it would turn the same amount. - I think it's got enough power you could have two people on your lap and it wouldn't change the speed. I think you go much over that. You're gonna ball bearings issue, I imagine, I don't know. (laughing) You know? - What was the idea, dude? I remember we talked one night about this for a few minutes. - You said you had a different idea for how the chair could work, that would be interesting. What was it, I can't remember. - I think the chairs should start facing the contestant. - Yes, really. - And then you turn away when you don't like it. Okay, now what would be tough about that is you're gonna be looking at them. - Yeah. - So, you know, like they're gonna take it, it's personal. - Yeah. - 'Cause the surprise when you turn, you know, sometimes people don't look like they sound, you know? Or it's not who or what you think it is. - Right, so there's a little more of a reveal there, but there'd also be a neat reveal. If it, if it, you turned away. - And you're like, you just, you're sitting there and they're singing, they're just singing a little hard. - You're just like, you're like, you're like, you know what I mean? You just turn, because here's the thing. Yes, that would be awkward for a split second. - Yeah. - 'Cause you'd be making eye contact when you press a button and turn away, but then you're facing the other way, you're good. - Yeah. - Probably what we're doing now is, I'm facing away. And then when I turn to them, or don't turn, they still turn your chair, and then you gotta explain to them why you didn't turn. - Yeah. - Oh. - It's tough. Have you guys started filming it? And do you have like total carte blanche on what you think, like do they, is there any like, are they intervening or is it? - It's, it's completely unscripted. They don't even tell you like what might be coming up next. And we would do like 18 people a day, I think. And it's a long day. We get there at nine, leave it like nine at night. We're done with the blind auditions now, but that was, it's not, it's not that hard to do. 'Cause it is, it's this, you know, you're just cutting up. It does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite, yeah, do you know? - I could imagine that. It's hard to think of anything. - Well, yeah, I mean like, if you're trying to think, musically, there's only so many terms, you know, and I'm sitting here, and I'm like, I don't wanna say the same thing over and over again, but sometimes a lot of it is just nerves. A lot of it, I've heard people that are, you can tell really talented singers, but they come on there and it's a very awkward thing. You got chairs facing away from you, the lights are on us on camera, it's on television. There's an audience there, and then they start singing and they're really winded, which is a nervous thing, and they can't kiss for breath. And then by the end, they'll get it, go on, you know, but it's a, yeah, I mean, it's people's dreams there, and we're trying to make it fun and make good television out of it, but there's also a lot of really great stories that come out of them, I'm sure I'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that. - Dude, I was staying at a hotel. I went, like, whenever they had the freeze in Nashville, when everything got frozen or whatever you know. - Yeah. - I had been at the UFC that weekend, and the freeze was like coming on Monday, and everybody was like, wasn't sure what was gonna happen, you know, 'cause you don't know if it's gonna be, how bad it's gonna be. And so I was like, well, I'm just gonna get out of town. I was like, I'm just gonna go to a, so I went to Hawaii for a few days. 'Cause like, it was like, it's like a freeze there. - Right. - Not gonna freeze. It was one place that had good weather, so I was like, I'm out. And I went with like a security guy, so I had somebody to go with me, right? 'Cause I was just gonna be out there by myself. And he and I stayed at this place, and like, it was all like, people that was like getting married or whatever, you know? And then it's me and him meeting like, like, we had like five romantic, like nice Dan, like candlelit dinners, it's just fucking me. - Two of them. - Yes, it's me and him, dude. - My shoes light up. - Oh, dude, dude. Get ready with me. No, my shoes didn't light up, dude. Need it, mind it. - Look, hey, hold on. This is a good show. - I don't wanna do this on a side note it, but what if you had shoes that were like a mood ring? - Yes. and you just feel the end of somebody, think about how easy dating would be then. She's just flashing red or green, I guess it'd be like, and she's like, oh, he likes me. - And what if hers are like flashing, not flashing? And hers are just indifferent. No, you need to, like, really not end to you needs to be a color red probably, right? - Or her start making that back. I'm selling them big trucks back up. - Yeah. - And she just started to move it, yeah. - Yeah. - Oh. - God, we should have that. - Dude, we have freaking- - There's got way, so however mood-rearing works is like the heat or blood flow, whatever. Your feet can do that. - They can do that. - They can do that. - They can do the same thing, you're 100%. Well, yeah, you might not be able to wear socks with them, but big deal, you know? - Some people say your feet are like the- - The hands of your leg. - Yeah. - No, they say that. - Yeah, dude. - The hands of your leg is what you meant? - Yeah, the eyes are the brains of the face. Yeah, from a visual aspect, yeah. - Yeah. - I mean from all of it, but no, dude, that's exactly what I'm saying. But no, I think- - The ears are the elbow of your head. - That's crazy. - Come on, they think about it. - No, I'm not thinking about any more stuff. - What were we talking about? - I want all the shit thing. - You were doing good. Have you been in here? What was that, what were we talking about? It was pretty good. - Now, you were talking about- - Look, dude, this whole thing is- we're just running a sting operation on the neighbors, okay? That's all this is about the- - He's home. - Yeah. - He's home, let's go. - No, I was just gonna think- - Yeah, what were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea. - Did we get through any ideas on this? - You know, I've had a good time. Do you think that the guy back there knows what's- I mean, like what's going on? Does he like, hey, you were talking about this? - Dude, he sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way, I'll say this. Trevor, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations is gonna go? - Never know, man. - What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to while I was talking about light-up shoes. Oh, you're good dinner with your security art. - Oh. - Romantic dinner. - And this is what happened. So right next door, and they were doing the show that Luke Bryan is on. - Oh, the America's got talent. - America's got talent. - American Idol. - That's right. - American Idol. - With respect. - And he even called it America's Got Talent once. - Yeah, I correct it. - Really? - Yes. But now other people are correct in me, 'cause I caught it from him. - Yeah. - What I'm saying is, yeah, we're sitting there and right there they had the show. Anyway, I was just kind of interesting. 'Cause for five days we watched them tape this thing right there on the beach. - Yeah. - You know? - Was Luke was in Hawaii? - Yeah. - It was nice I got to see him, I got to meet him. Oh wait, I met him before. Oh, we went fishing like a couple weeks ago at his place. - He loves a fish hunt golf and drink. - Dude. - I'll say this. He's one of the, you know. - What? He does, he loves that. What do you think he likes to fish golf and drink? - Fish hunt golf and drink. He loves to do those things. - How do you know that? - Well, he's wrote a song about it. - No, he didn't. - Yeah, it's called, I think it's called Fish Hunt Golf Drink and what else? And something else? - No, just those things. - Oh, that's it? - Yeah, you can play it if you want. - Is it good? It's called what kind of question is that? It's a country classic, I imagine. Get ready with me while listening to this. - Get ready with me while I go fish hunting. Now, what was you wear for that? Fish Hunt golf drink. Dude, I'm fucking out. - You don't have to play it right now. - No, we don't have to play it. - Just put it on here. - We'll play it in our imagination. - We'll play it in the car on the way home, we'll hold up. - No, he gave me credit for him writing that song. - He gave you credit? - Or he blamed me, one of the two, yeah. - Oh, he did? - Yeah, he said you know that. - He texted me and said that we needed to get together. It'd been too long and he said, Fish Hunt golf drink. - Got nice dude. - So I was not there. I didn't write the song, had nothing to do with the song. I didn't even send the text. I didn't even say that's a cool text. Or you should write a song, I didn't do nothing to do with it. So I wanna say that while we're here. - Well, I'm gonna read some of it right here. Do me a favor, read it like, stand up poetry. - I have not heard this song. - Okay, so just, you know, like put a little. - All right, I'm behind it. - Some passion. - Wake up, coffee, camo, climb tree, wetline, 18. - So you said wake up coffee like you were saying, like, good morning moon or good night moon. You did it like that. - Yeah, it was cool, go ahead, I'm sorry. Fish hunt, golf drink. All fall, all spring, all summer long. I'll be living it up and living it on. A country boy's dream. I like it. - It's eye-cook. - It's got a little bit of the caterpillar book to it. - It's got a head of the tiz, a bit. - Have you read children's books? Like, I mean, out loud, like for audio book. You'd be great at that. - Yeah, thanks, man. - Fish hunt, golf drink. I wouldn't mind that. I'm trying to think. Well, I don't need to be drinking, but fishing. I would love to go. - I want to take your duck hunt this year. - Will you really? - Yeah, you just got to like, I know you that you're as bad as me about schedule and stuff, but I'm not going through management to do it, so. I'll just text you and be like, hey man, I got these days. - You were the busy guy. You were down in Pensacola. You were going to somewhere with Barbados or something. - What? - Yeah. - I don't think I've been to Barbados, man. - Yeah, well, I guess you didn't go in. - It's a sketch one. - Oh, are you going there? - Yeah. - She's just making up names. - It's a lady city. - Is that what you say? - No, that's a real place. - It's a sketch one. - It's in Canada. - No, it's beautiful up there. I've been up there. Is that next to it? What's the one next to Edmonton? - The big apple. - No, that's not the big one. - Edmonton, yeah. - That's what they, I mean, yeah. You don't know what they call it there. - Bro, I didn't know you were so funny, dude. I thought you got it. - I've been trying to tell you. No, I was honestly going to tell you how funny I was back. He was eating cake out. Dude, I came to your party. You hated it. - No, seriously, thanks for coming. - I'm out of here. - Thank you. - No, thank you for coming. - I left because you weren't having fun. - Dude, you wouldn't. And also-- - No, here's the thing. You came to my spouse party and you didn't even want to be there. That's how bad it was. - You were down there sitting by yourself in the back deck of losers. And you're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people and this celebration. - Dude, I was watching a series. I was on the third episode. - Yeah. - You know, it's like people are trying their best. - You know, not everything's gonna be just for you, Riley. - You know what would be really fun? - Huh. - Is if you did a Get Ready With Me to go to my birthday party. (laughing) - Man, I ain't doing all that shit, bro. You got me messed up. - Let's do one Get Ready With Me. - You got me messed up. - I'll pick what yours is. You can pick what mine is. - Probably can't do a damn Get Ready With Me. - Yeah. - Oh, that might not be a bad idea. Really if we thought of some good ones, dude. Wonder what yours would be, dude. Get ready with me while I'm, while I go be an asshole somewhere, that's why I would pick, dude. Just where. But what would you pick from mine, though? Get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a Native American dog. (laughing) And I would bring like some sage or something with me. - I feel like you would go to a dog park and be like, so is this a Native American dog park? Like is it, or is it just all regular dogs? Or is there any dogs that are-- - There's like a burial ground there. - Yeah, or something. - Maybe I would. - That's a talent to ask weird questions, though. To be able to come up with them. - Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man. I don't have a ton of like, a lot of times it's just like, you know, we're gonna catch up. You know, I know that you have a lot going on in your life so I was glad to get to catch up. And yeah, I mean, doing something like the voice it feels like a big change because it's like, you know, you have this kind of like, you're a country musician. You're respected by people in that world. And you've had a lot of success in it. And then you kind of, there's something that's a bit more of like a commercial appeal, which is awesome. And I understand like your perspective on it. And I don't know, I just think it's interesting. You know, it's interesting how things come along in life because some people probably say no to things. Some people probably say yes to things. - Well, the interesting thing about a career like we've got is you're kind of in charge of how successful you can be. I mean, yeah, things have to go well. People have to like whatever art you create where there's comedy, music, whatever. But like if you don't go do the stuff, you're not going to get the opportunity. And I can't tell you how many things I've gone and done that necessarily on paper were not going to be beneficial or financially worth doing. - Oh, yeah. - But there was an opportunity there that led to something else that led to something else. That's how the voice was. All the acting stuff that I've been able to do so far. And you know, I mean, think about stand-up comedians. How many of them that are, you know, household names have been really successful only have done stand-up? They've all acted or been on some other platform, Saturday Night Live, whatever. Even the like guys that were just great stand-up guys like Eddie Murphy and Dave Shapilla and they all had other avenues after, well, I mean, you almost know Eddie Murphy better now for his acting, you know? - That's a great stand-up comedian. - I bet a lot of you are. - Yeah, I bet there's a lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand-up comedian. - That's right, man. And if you didn't get your start on Saturday Night Live, that's kind of how you branch out and do something else. 'Cause I feel like in comedy would probably be much worse, 'cause you have to come up with so much more material. Whereas music, you can banal about tour for a year off of it and still play some of those songs for years to come. - Yeah. - But you have to be a whole lot more creative regularly in comedy. But if that's all you did, they would get really monotonous after a while. You get tired of it. I got, the only time I ever got tired of music was. 2014, '15, '16 in there. And I was playing the same club, same venues over and over again. Playing the same songs and it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it. - Mm-hmm. - There's a lot of things to grow in. And you can find other things like. - Was there ever a tour that you did that you got asked to go on that you just chose not to? Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen with artists? - I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good tour in business for the last 10 years. So. - I have to turn down some tours because I can make more money to earn them on. Plus I feel like there's a little bit of if you get caught in that opening act role, it's hard to get out of it. You never go 'cause, you know like, what's open for somebody's great 'cause when you got guaranteed money, the venue, if it snows and the venue shuts down, you still get paid, you don't have to pay for production, cater or anything like that. So there's no overhead and you get in front of new fans. So it's a great way to get some exposure, but if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base. - Right. - As people have to be there to see you. So for me, always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or an arena, I'd go back up to play a club there. You know, after and try to get the most out of it, if I could. But yeah, I don't do any real open slots anymore. So it's nice. - Yeah. Yeah, oh night. I mean, it's definitely nice. And sometimes I forget about the work that I have done. I forget about all the spots that I played. I forget about all the time I put in on things. - So you get there and you remember something about the backstage of the green room. Looks familiar like I've been here. - Yeah. - It happens to me all the time. - Yeah. - Right now you have the cowboy as it gets tour. Who's open to it? Who's working with you on it? - Justin Moore, Randy Howzer. - Oh nice. - Got him Drake White, Hannah McFarlane, McKinsey Carpenter. I kind of try to have a parade of first to four and second to four guys and girls. Just 'cause I like having people out that, you know, giving an opportunity, getting from a bunch of fans, really fortunate that all these shows are selling out. We got big crowds and it's so cool, dude. - Yeah, man. God, I wish I could freaking sing, you freak. Sorry. - They're pretty good turkey call, though. - Yeah, but all my meat, yeah. But I ain't meat, you know what I'm saying? We got a turkey call. - That's all you sing, my song. - Oh, you gonna meet a turkey? - Where the hell are you saying it? - Oh yeah, dude. I missed it. We got there the next day, I think. And then we got there. - We ended out. We didn't get to play. I thought you were there. Yeah, dude, that was great, bro. Can you tell me you're nervous? - Yes, I was freaking nervous, dude. - That's such a, that's such a. - Well, it was, I was like. - It's such an easy song in a sense of the crowd knows every word and the talking versus and all that. You know, it's a little easier to do, but I'll bring people up out of the crowd to do it sometimes. - Oh, you will? - Yeah. - Oh, dude, that's cool, bro. Yeah, well, the tough part was like, I knew the song, but then when you have a responsibility to do the words, you're like, you know what kind of set you like. All right, now I have like, I got to do the response. - We started thinking about it. - Right, yeah. And then the craziest part, this part was kind of funny, my buddy, we wrote the notes down, the words on the cards. We wrote the words on the cards on a poster boards. And so he's standing there with him by the side of the stage just in case, right? - Yeah. - And then, but I didn't need him. I started doing good in my brain and I didn't need him. And so he starts shaking the card. Like, he's getting pissed and I'm not looking at the cards. - 'Cause he made these cards, yeah. - Yeah, I'm like, dude, I don't need him. - Yeah, you're here for having happy that you didn't need him. - Right, you should have just been pissed. - Oh, he should have been ripping him up and throwing him in the air or something. But he's sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just giving me like a bunch of grief or whatever. You know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever. And so yeah, I don't know, that was kind of a lot. But then it was Wendy and my hat kept coming off and I kept having to get it. - You kept going out on? - Yeah, I kept having to get it. And I was like, dang, I wish they made a really heavy hat. - Or a good one with that rock. - A chin strap? - Yeah, come on. - Cowboy hat, come on man. - You think I'm a wearer? - Cowboy hat with a chin strap on it. - Yes, per times, man. - Nah, I can't read lyrics. - You're hilarious. - And saying, you know what, you can't, what? - I can't read lyrics and saying, I've got to just know it, you know, like a teleprompter or whatever, I can't. - Oh yeah. - And so if I look out in the crowd and read a sign or something while I'm just, I'll forget who I am and mess me all up, I can't read anything. I can't look at anybody's sign in the crowd when I'm singing. - Well, it's two different things, totally. I would rather know, I would rather this guess than be reading something, you know. Just take my chances with whatever's gonna come up in my brain, but. - Which could be anything? - Yeah, which is kind of the best thing. Your brain is just like-- - Sometimes it is. - Yeah, it's like a goss of champagne. Some of the bubble just comes right up and that's a new idea or something like that. I love that. That's my favorite thing about being alive is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain, you know? - Yeah. - And other people's brains, I think it's interesting. - But yeah, man, I felt lucky to get to do y'all songs. So yeah, I was happy-- - It was cool, I got to see some clips over, you did good. - I was happy to get to do it. Oh, dude, once I got out there and realized that I could sing, it was over, dude. I was like, I was a singer. - Well, we'll find one you can do with me and we'll come out to show, we'll get you out to do one. - Yeah. I like that, get ready with me. Get ready with me to go sing with Rolly Green. There we go, dude. You have your new album, it's out on the 18th. Yep, that's it, September 18th, that's just me. You have three singles that are already out from it? - Yes, sir. - Excellent. And the biggest it gets to her, no. Cowboys it gets to her. - Just wait on the slide, it'll be easy. I'm Rolly Green and it's the Cowboys it gets to her in 2026. - You know what this is like? This is like, honestly, when you're having a rocky day at work and one of your boys shows up and helps you out. - That's what this is. - Oh, that's exactly what I'm saying. - Yeah. - That's exactly what this is. So thank you, bro. - Yeah. - Thank you for showing up. - You know, if you ever need me to come in when you got somebody cool here that you're doing, I can just sit on the couch and, you know what I mean? Just help. - Dude, just come and do my part. - Yeah. - Dude, you're good at this, man. You're really good at this, man. - I'll watch the show, huh? This past weekend with The Ovon. I watched it. I appreciate that, man. - Say some creative stuff on here. - We have, over time, you know? Sometimes it's-- - It's not all gold. But, man, if you sit here and talk for what, two hours, there's bound to be something funny in there. - Oh, there's fun stuff, man. I mean, I don't know. It's been interesting. Sometimes you find different things. Sometimes you learn stuff. Sometimes you don't learn stuff. - No, I enjoy that there's some seriousness in there, you know? - Oh yeah, I mean, sometimes you get a lot more serious. It just kind of depends, you know? I think I can't tell if it has to do with my energy or it has to do with the gas energy. It's probably just both of us and whatever's going on, you know? - Well, I feel like there's a lot of places where me and you are in a similar spot with life outside of our careers. - Yeah. - You know, so maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did okay, though. - Yeah, but we can do like a real deep thing. You know, we just share one mic and sit in the install on the floor with just candles and do it on, you know what I mean? - Oh, I know what I'll bring, my Indian dog with me. - If you can get your hands on one. - Yeah, there's a one out there. Raleigh Green, man, thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment. Thanks for the entertainment today, dude. You're a funny guy, bro. I didn't realize that. And I know it's a weird thing to say to somebody else, but thanks for making me laugh. That's what I mean. I appreciate it. - Yeah, that was fun. - And congrats on all the success. And I'll have to get out there and check out one of the shows this year. - The biggest it gets to her. - You're going to some good spots. - God, yeah. I'll be out there. Raleigh Green, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, brother. - Appreciate it, man. - Yep. ♪ Now I'm just floating on the breeze ♪ ♪ And I feel I'm falling like these leaves ♪ ♪ I must be corner stoned. ♪ ♪ Oh, but when I reach that ground ♪ ♪ I'll share this piece of mind ♪ ♪ I found I can feel it in my bones. ♪ ♪ But it's gonna tell you. ♪