#667 - Duncan Trussell

This episode is sponsored by Mountain Dew. Look for American Dew Limited Time Packaging or find it in stores near you at MountainDew.com. Today's guest is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and just a downright cosmic adventurer. He's got his own show, The Duncan Trussell Family Hour and his new podcast, Mystery Boys, with Kurt Metzger, always a blast, The One and Only, Mr. Duncan Trussell. ♪ Shine on me ♪ ♪ And I'll be with you ♪ ♪ Find a song ♪ ♪ I was thinking of you ♪ Whoa! Look at that! What kind of cameras are you guys? Jesus Christ! He's so inspirational. These are flock cameras we're using. (laughing) Yeah, Palantir! Palantir! We now work for Palantir. These are we're using flock cameras. It's incredible. This can see right all the way through my eyes, through my past, my history, all the way into my mother's body. Past lives. Yes. Get into your past incarnations too. It's pretty cool. Tag is amazing these days. We good to act. The lighting, you guys are good. Look at this shit. What do you mean you have a podcast? I don't look fuck, dude. This is next level. I love Josh and my studio is great, but I don't have this guy. Look at me. I look good in this light. Dude, you definitely, bro, you look, I will say this. It's the lighting. It's conestoga wagon times, right? Like it's the old days and it's like, you know. Yes. There's a conestoga wagon. Yes. And it's stalled out on the side of the road, right? Yes. Because anything could have happened when you had a conestoga wagon because you had wooden wheels, remember? Yeah, I do. And dude, you could have gotten termites overnight. Well, many things. Termites, I mean, just think of wooden wheels on some old fucked up, there's no ice paving roads back then. You're going through forest creeks. Your wife is guessing where a road could be. If she's still alive, she doesn't have an arrow through her throat. And she's not choking on her own blood spray. Your wagon stained with blood. Yeah, you had 11 kids. Your wife has had kids this week. This week. Like that's, it was like that. People don't realize what it was like. Oh, no. No, people don't. We know, because we've had past lives. Yeah, I remember. Oh, dude, I remember sitting on like a hillside where everything back then was a hillside. Yeah, all hills. Remember that? All hills. Remember, everything was a hillside. It's like, now there's like a lot of pavement there's flattened areas. Thank you, Surn. The fucking particle accelerator fucked everything up. Now there's flat places. It used to just be a series of hills. Everything was a hillside. Everything, dude, even people's bodies you'd have one, like you'd have the strong side of your father and the weaker side because of how we walked to work. That's right. You know, because you'd have to walk at an angle. And everybody was diagonal. Yes. Everybody walked diagonally. It was so different. But dude, in the, like, even your wagon could easily, you wake up in the morning, some termites had showed up, like a gang of termites are Italian. Some people called them, right? Yep. Showed up. And ate a spoke off your wagon wheel. That's right. And you got a flat. Well, Italians used to eat wood. So you would literally, you wouldn't even know what it was. Was it like a wild, ravaging group of Italians or was it termites? Yeah, you'd have no idea. Yeah. Conestoga wagon wood was like the precursor to pizza, apparently. Oh, it's called the first pasta. In some cultures, dude, that's the craziest thing. Doesn't conestoga mean pasta? It means pasta wagon. Well, dude, it's just, of course. Like, you could see, like, some strong jaw to Italian showing up, right? I mean, he's just-- Hey, John! Well, he's so strong, John, just because, you know, his neck and everything, he's strong from wearing all of his chains. They wore, like, all the chains. Yep. And he's so jacked and he just sees a fucking warm wagon wheel. It's warm because it's been rolling all day. Yeah, plus a stink of birth of wagon births. Yeah. And then, yeah, you'd hear him come slithering out of the woods down the hill. You're lucky if you were on top of the hill. Because if you're at the bottom, they just slid on down. Dude, you'd be standing at the bottom of the hill and Italian would just roll right up against your leg. Yep. They just-- Yeah. It's gravity and Italians. Dude, back then, their stomachs were just, like, callus underneath the hair. It was just from sliding down those hills, attacking the wagons as a thick, sheeny callus to help them slide. Terrifying times. People are a-historic these days. And if you don't remember history, we're fucked. You've got to know what actually happened what this country was founded on. And I want you to say that we're, again, people are a-historic. Yeah. And what does that mean, Duncan? It means that people don't give a fuck about history. They don't care. No one's looking back. Nobody-- most people don't-- And not just like with US history, world history, but musical lineages and stuff. People just don't really care. Reparations people are looking back. Yeah, but- That's the ultimate rear-view mirrors, people. If you ride in a car with somebody who's big on reparations, they're like seven rear-view mirrors in their car. You notice that? That's a lot. But you have to stop. With that kind of thinking, you do have to stop at a certain place. You have to stop in a certain frame. You can't keep going back. You have to stop there as well. But come on, man. Wouldn't you, if there was some way for you to get reparations, wouldn't that be amazing? People start-- that's an incredible income source, you know? If they can tap it, I think one of the biggest groups, or some of the biggest groups that probably have, at least, called out to the gods of reparations probably in our time, would probably be black-- I don't know if it's African-Americans. I don't know if it's black people in general, but I think it would be some African-Americans, people that came from Africa in the slavery, or their ancestors did. And then Native Americans, like, what about-- that tab was never paid. Listen, this is why we got to invent a time machine. Because once we get that fucking time machine, we could go back in time to the actual colonizers and slaveholders and take their fucking shit. That's true reparations, because they're the ones who did it. You know what I mean? The idea of the reparations is like, I'm not trying to call you out. Everybody knows you have slaves now. But I am not a slave owner. Come on, we all know what's going on in Nashville. Come on, I'm sorry. I don't mean to-- you guys can cut this out. You guys can cut this out. No. But I, on the other hand, don't. I-- Oh, you're the unslave guy. You're not doing as good. I don't get the numbers you're getting. So you know, you do. You should pay reparations. But otherwise, we've got to get a time machine, man. What would we do? Here's the thing. I'm saying this, and I'm going to be honest with you. We get a time machine. Yes. We go back, first of all, in time, right? And we get there. The colonizers-- I just don't-- what is our strategy going to be when we get there? We've got guns. What do they have? They have guns. That's how they did it. Yeah, but not like AR-15s. They've got like shitty muskets and stuff. It's going to be very easy to colonize the colonizers. Nope. What if there is a metal detector when you get into the time machine? Disable. Like, it's my time machine. You don't think you-- You think that's just part of the build? You think a time machine is going to come without TSA, dude? You think that the government in Israel is going to let us have a time machine without TSA? You're right. They ruin everything, man. They ruin everything. You're going to have off-market, underground time machines that are going to spaghettify your ass when you travel through time. It's not going to be safe. We'll say this, bro. They will have-- there's no way you're getting a TSA free time machine, dude. You're going to have like some lady over there who's like, oh, you got a baby milk in there or something. They always like that. Yeah. The first-- the thing I hate is a baby milk. Or if you're even a woman with full tits, it'd be like, yeah, what's in your tits? They'd be like, oh, what's in your tits is a baby milk? Dude, I feel so bad for all people, pregnant and new parents going through TSA, because like, they get fucked up. They're aggressive with them. Yeah. They like make you disassemble the baby carriage. Yeah. They scan the baby. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah. You're going to need to open his diaper up and I'm like, what are you doing? What do you think's in there? It's crazy. Now, I'm a fucking peeping Thomas because I'm second in line now. It's like, I'm getting drawn into crimes. We're about to travel with the whole family, Theo, and you, and we've got a new baby. We've got a five-month-old, and I just got a prep because they do not treat you kindly. I want to help you if you're a breeder and trying to travel on the 4th of fucking July. You are my wife. I'm fine. You just have to stand on the other side and you just watch it happen. The pat down, the disassembly, the scrutinizing of the tits. Oh, yeah. That's the worst. And the worst is if they look at your wife's tits like they wouldn't have any milk in them. Right. Like, what do you think's in there? There's a baby right there. What do you think? She's got nitroglycerin in her tits. Why are you doing this to us? Kids are screaming. We try to get food in a gaza or something. What do you think? What's happening here? Bringing my dad's ashes to the scatter them. So it's like going to be double. It's going to be the most dramatic TSA of all time because I'm just so worried about what are they going to do with my dad's ashes? Yeah. Are they going to search them? What's in there? Yeah. What's in my dad's ashes? I have no idea. Oh. Sometimes it's a molder. minutes. Look, what is that? What's the most common thing found in human room, and uh, in dads' ashes? (laughing) Dude, and Duncan, uh, good to see you, dude. - Good to see you, Theo. - Thank you, you're welcome. - Just making the most common thing found in your dad's ashes. - This is actually interesting. Take it through this, if you don't mind, Duncan. - Oh, I'd love to, uh, calcium carbonate. Of course, that's some bone stuff. Trace minerals, such as sodium, potassium, and magnesium, trace metals, implants, like surgical screws, pins, or dental fillings after processing. - Ooh, that's pretty cool. - Burbin crystals. If you had a southern dad. - Oh, I see, yeah. Oh, just from like, uh, like salt build up or something, he'd have bourbon crystals build up around his bones. - Just crystallized bourbon whiskey. - I could see that. A little bit of, uh, probably some racial jokes. (laughing) A lot of dads would have, like, (laughing) - You're just sifting through the sand of your father and like a, just like, an inward flies out. - At least 30 pollock jokes. You like, no one even understood why your dad was always making, you didn't know what a pollock was when you were a kid, but like, they were apparently really dumb based on your dad's shitty pollock jokes. - Oh, man, dude. Duncan, Russell, thanks for being here today, dude. - Happy to be here. - And dude, I wanna say also, congratulations, you and Kurt Mads grab a new podcast, The Mystery Boys. - That's right, yeah. - And dude, it feels like, a producer Trevin, who's talking, - I was at a bug. - Skitos. - Or a spy. - Could be a spy drone, could be a drone. - Dude, if the drones get that small, we are. - They are. They already are. - Well, let's don't wait, if we start there, it's gonna, every podcast now starts there. - By the way, whoever's surveying us with your mechanical mosquitoes, you're an idiot, it's a fucking podcast. You could just watch the podcast, you don't have to double film the podcast. - Dude, we've had people on that had the room searched afterwards to make sure that they didn't leave like a listening device or something like that. - Oh yeah, you're getting that level of guests who are living in, like, it's so crazy how like, the more powerful you get, the more you live in a surveillance state. Like, you know what I mean, like the Trump, he's the most surveilled person on the planet, right? Like, he lives in the most high security place of all time. He must, like, and it's not just like, secret service monitoring him. - Right, it's people he thinks are his friends that he, I bet he doesn't even know that. I bet he doesn't even care. - I bet he does. - You think he does? - You gotta feel that. You've got remote viewers from like, various countries, trained psychic spies. You've got ghosts. You've got, you know, a variety. - He's dropping ghosts. He's dropping ghosts, malevolent entities, time travelers. You've got witches actively cursing you at every hour of the fucking day. Think of the way, that's why any president, look at them. Look what happens to them. They melt down. They're crushed by just the sheer weight of a cult energy being leveled at them by all variety of sorcerers, necromancers, garden variety, witches, like hardcore mountain wizards. You just don't even know what's coming. Who sayers, REI counter employees? - Yes, evil eye in you. Just like, you've got the evil eye on you at all time. And so you just get all fucked up. And you like, look at Trump. He's got those splotches now. He's like, he's like falling asleep. Obama, look at Obama. He looked like a ring race when he came out. - Oh, he was white by the time he got out. - He was. He's totally like just withered all of them with him. - Look at this. - Look at 2009. - Oh, joy, 2016. You've blown up countless innocent families with drones. You can get here. - You were just doing Clintons work, still doing Clintons work. - Look at fucking Lincoln. - I know. - All of them, it does it to all of them. Look at that. - Well, first of all, there were only two photos ever of Lincoln taken. So there's, all we have is a before and after event, dude. - Yeah, that's true. That's true. And also people, he was probably 23 in both of those pictures. Dude, you know what's pretty wild? I was thinking about this the other day. There's not another famous person with the last name, Lincoln. - Whoa. I don't know any Lincoln. - Like there's him, Abraham. Was that his name? Or Abraham? - Abraham. - Abraham Lincoln. And then Mary Todd Lincoln was his wife. - Yep. - Who was kind of like, and then his son, Ted Lincoln, I think who died at a young age. - What a tad die of. But no other famous Lincoln, think of one. - I don't know any. - That's pretty unbelievable. - I know like a lot of people whose first name is Lincoln. I don't know any famous. Oh, there you go. Edward Baker, Lincoln, he died on February 1st. At age three, tuberculosis. - These are the kids, these are his children. - William Wallace, Lincoln. - Wow. - Cool name, died at the age of 11. Typhoid fever. Tom is Lincoln known as Tad. His cause of death is tuberculosis pneumonia or heart failure. - Holy shit. - But people do not understand. And we do not understand that this was the president of the United States, and three of his kids died by the age of 18 of tuberculosis. Whatever the other one was, I think just, and one of them probably was gay and they killed him. - That's always happened. - That was one out of three kids. - Yeah, and then they say that they give it a bigger name. - Yeah. - Like, put him on a heart failure. - Yeah, heart failure. - Oh, we know what happened. - But dude, isn't that the craziest way to describe gay? It's like, he should love a woman, but. - He had heart failure, heart was failing. - But his heart failed and liked men. - And he fell into the pigs, fell into a pig pin and was devoured. - Dude, I'll tell you, it looks like he was like planning for a beautiful day at a picnic basket. - Yeah, I mean, yeah. - He had a letter to Randall in it, you know. - And Dale Randall, I know that you're by the peasant, my father's president, but you know, I'll tell you. - That's why, think of the how wild it is. You have three children. - Four. - You have four fucking children. - Four children. - Yeah, you just had another child while we were finishing the sentence. - Yep. - But just imagine that. Go on, anywhere you say it. - No, you didn't finish your point. Imagine, like when you have kids, you can no longer watch date line. I used to be able to, when I was single, I could watch date line, some murderer came in, killed a bunch of kids, exploded a house with kids and it killed a mom and the kids watched and, you know, it sucks, it's sad. - Right. - Whatever. - Yeah, date one. - When you have fucking kids, anything about a kid dying, any, it's like your DNA changes, for real, even dads. - Wow. - So it hits so hard. Losing three of your children? - I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine, you're not sleeping anymore. You can't, you're just a walking corpse. You're gone, your heart is never gonna be better after that. So that might explain why Lincoln looked like shit before he got assassinated, no offense. But this is what it's like, you know, this is human existence. That's how, you know, having, becoming a breeder really teaches you. - When you choose to have something, when you choose to create more. And then we're all, we're all victims, always been some form of, like at that time, everybody's a slave to the lack of knowledge, maybe. - Oh yeah. - Is that a realistic thing? - Oh, I think so. I think like back then, you get an infection. You're dead, they're saw on your arm off. I don't even think they had like, they had ether. They didn't have like the incredible anesthesia that we have right now, where they can dial in just the dose. - Right. - They know the exact amount of time before you wake up. Back then, I think they were just like putting a rug on your face if you're lucky. Or somebody sometimes would just whisper in your ear, like this, you're not feeling anything, you're not feeling anything, you're not feeling anything. - You don't feel this, you're dreaming, you're dreaming, you're just sawing, you're fucking arm off. That was what it was like, but look at your dreaming dude. - This is actually great, you guys are good. 1850s average cause of death tuberculosis. - And what was tuberculosis? Let me say it real quick. The single biggest killer in many places, especially among adults and children, which is everyone, so weird thing to say. In 1867 Kentucky sample, 18 of 100 deaths were from consumption, similar patterns held in 1850s. What is consumption? Can you give me some, can you also be looking up what tuberculosis is? - I think that's what they call it, consumption, right? Like that was the name for consumption. - But dude, imagine you get invited probably one weekend at school, you're a school kid, right? Consumption is an archaic historical term for tuberculosis, a highly contagious bacterial infection primarily attacking the lungs. - Coffin up blood. Happened at Edgar Allan Pose. - Why if she died at tuberculosis, like just everybody, you would have little, this is I think where the handkerchief in the pocket came from, is like you wanted to politely cough up blood in front of people at dinner parties and stuff, so. - Yeah, 'cause if you were poor, you just coughed into your hand or whatever. - Oh god, what's up, dude? - That was what it was like back then. - But dude, imagine one weekend as a kid, this could be a real life of a child back in the day. - Yeah. - You go to a kid's party one weekend. Some kid is having his fifth birthday party, which at this point is probably one quarter of his life. - Right, he's about to go to work in the factories. - Yeah, who'd be at war in two years? - Two years, he's gonna be fighting. Yeah, he's getting ready to go to work. So this is like almost work an age. - You go to his birthday and the next weekend, you could conceivably go to a funeral of another child or adult. - Every, I guarantee that like every son that you're going to a funeral back then, like you, like a Sunday you're not going to a funeral as a good Sunday. Just go to any, like any old graveyard. Look at all those little graves. Dude, your kids were dying left and right. There was a miracle for a kid to survive. - Sometimes it'll be like Rick and it was like he's 11 years or something. - Oh yeah, yellow fever. You know, where I come from in Georgia, the cemetery where my family's buried, it's just like filled with these old graves and that's all yellow fever. It's all just weird old diseases. - And some yellow fever, some people think it's 'cause people hate Asians so much that they die that they're heart snapped. That's not it. - Right, yeah. - We're talking to the original one. - Yeah, yeah. Actually yellow fever is my favorite K-pop band. Like there, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, it's hilarious, dude. They know what's going on, dude. Have you ever heard of Peter Diamandas? - No, I haven't. - So he's like, it's interesting because there's like a group of people who are, who look at the world right now from a historic perspective. - Okay. - And they're like, shit is really good right now and it's gonna get better. - That's what Rogan always says. It shit's the best it's ever been. - Well, and people hear that. If you don't know this sort of thing and some people don't, if you don't realize that like, if you have electricity, you're doing pretty good. - You're a, you're a modern day wizard. - Wizard. - Yeah, exactly, like you could just flip a switch and lights come on and you could take a shit and flush it and it goes bye bye. - And it goes to a poor neighborhood? - Yeah, well, that used to go out the window. You'd fucking, you know, you'd shit in a chamber pot, throw it out the window where it's land in puddles of like blood from people with consumption, or shit, or just some kids playing. And I bet it was honestly probably like good luck. It's almost like you know when like a butterfly lands on your shoulder or something now, it's a good luck. Or if you see a clock, it says 11, 11. But like if you were taking a walk and you and you just got hit by a bit of the king's shit, you know. Like glad to buy shit today. Things are looking up. - Yeah, a bit of a king's shit on me. - Yeah, man, and this. - Oh, thick shit from the king. - Oh, nothing better than a king's thick shit. Because no one else had thick shit back then. - Only the kings. - Who else would have a thick shit? - Everyone's shit was watery, watery shit. - Oh. - And a king's shit. - It was Memphis coffee, dude. - Yeah, Memphis coffee. - But the king's shit, he was fucking serving plaster of Paris, brother. - Powerful, charismatic, probably smelled good. - Alluvial. - Yeah, yeah, it was, you know, royal shit. - Medieval kings had a diet that was far more varied than depending on period and region, often less dominated by meat than they're roasted turkey, like stereotype, roasted meat. Yeah, that seems like normal stuff. But yeah, dude, if you, God, and I bet some people, and I bet there were some people almost like, they're down in their luck and they would just hang out outside of like a toll, like a, 'cause the kings told us we're up like in the air. They were built like, you know, on the second floor, a third floor of the castle. - Yeah. - And just a hole would come out of the wall. - Well, back then you would, no, I happened to be an expert on sewage systems and castles. - Oh good, no, I wanna know about that. - I studied it all through school. You'll see here that, now that's nice, but some castles, you would shit down into a pit and then the way that you would get lice off your clothes, 'cause everyone was covered in lice back then, is you would put your clothes out over an open toilet and medieval toilet and all the ammonia from the shit would kill the lice. So you were wearing clothes that had been lice-free, but you know, like-- - Shit sent it. - It smelled like a porta-potty. It smelled like a cicella porta-potty and that was a clean shirt back then. - Yeah, medieval toilets, commonly known as garter robes, were built over waist shafts or pits that discharged directly in emotes. They featured a surprising dual purpose. Nobles used the ammonia heavy air from the toilet pits to store in delouse clothing, as the fumes were believed to kill clothes, lice and fleas. Dude, that's unbelievable, like God, you smell like shit, but God. - No lice. - No lice, come on over. - No lice, you get to pick. - Yeah, come on over and touch his clothes. - Come on over. - For touch his wiener, if you were gay. - I just delouse my underwear. - Yeah. - Oh, lice-free pussy back then. - Yeah. - Can you imagine, go and finally, you don't have lice crawling all over your face. - Or your vagina, or your, or the end of your wiener if you're a man. Dude, the very end of your wiener almost looks like a little bit of a Johnny, you notice that? - Are you kidding? That's all I think about. - Yeah. (laughing) It does though. - Oh it does. - Mine is special. - Oh yeah. - It's amazing, you can, I will, it's another part. - When I was a child, they had, I had a, I was born with a very small wiener hole. So I could pee like 15 feet. - Did it expand? - I had to go get a surgery. - You really did. - Yeah. - So you're, it was fused a little bit. - Yeah, it was a little fused dude. And I mean, I could piss dude. I could wash a cat's eye from 15 feet away. (clapping) - Yeah, it's so good. Did you ever wash a cat's eye? - I mean, I could have. - Dude, you could have. That's much of a painful though. - Oh, I'd surprised a fucking, and nobody knew it was urine 'cause it just came at such a rip. - A fucking rip, a fucking yellow piss. - Oh, it was like, ah, it was loud. - Oh, and it had a Roger Clemen sort of, it was a shoo. - That's painful, it's like piss on ecstasy. - Pitter, oh, oh, it started to burn me at a certain age I didn't mind it. But once you're getting in that age or you wanna piss fast dude. - Yes. - 'Cause we had a time in our town, everybody was pissing real fast. - Hmm. (laughing) - And I remember like, it's just when kids are like, how fucking fast can you piss? You look fucker or whatever. - Oh yeah. - And you're like, I'll piss fast. - You gotta piss fast. - And you're straining, but it hurts. - It fucking hurts. - But that's when I was dude, oh, I was wof. - Yeah. - I would wash a bottle of whiskey that was sitting on a shower. - It's a power washer. - Yeah, it was a, yeah. - You could clean off graffiti with your piss. - Dude, I could definitely, I could clean the rims on your car. - Fucking, you got to, and there's money in that. There's money in that. - Today's episode is in partnership with Manscaped, the men's grooming brand. Trusted by over 13 million men worldwide. That's a lot of man, baby. We the most. Fellas, it's smooth sack summer. Yep, it is. It's officially in session. So if your grooming game's been a little wild lately, this is your sign to tighten it up downstairs and beyond, you know, everywhere. That's why I've been using the Manscaped lawnmower 5.0 Ultra in the new desert sand color way. You know what I'm talking about. 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It's like, it's just a brilliant dude. Oh, dude, his knowledge of Charzards from another realm is something we can't fathom. I also, one thing I love about Curtis, I love his voice. He has a great voice. Oh, yeah. It's fun to listen to. It's this kind of futuristic, but ancient sort of hodgepodge of soundery, you know. Oh, and he's like connected to some of the most interesting people. The guest he's been getting, we've had somebody who was on, who, who claims to be in a secret space program. I think that's this week's episode. No, it's last, it's a two-parter, but this dude claims that in the military, he was essentially inducted into this top secret program where, I mean, most people don't know this, but the United States has been engaged in a kind of galactic war. We're being run by reptilians, gray aliens, or essentially like IT workers. People don't realize that. This, one of the stories he told and what's so interesting about his stories are the details. They take him into this office. They're about to introduce him to this program. He's passed an IQ test. Apparently you have to have a very high IQ to get into this program. Very high. And it's not a normal like written IQ test. They have some futuristic thing that just can tell if you're a dumbass or not. And he passes this. They bring him into a office, a gray alien, waddles out. No. From what behind a curtain or a door? A door. Like a little, I guess a cat door or something. He just comes waddle and uses a door. That's the part I don't get. I wish I'd ask because he would have an answer. He would have a great answer for that. In my view, it's like a cat door, like maybe a mid-sized cat door. Okay. He comes waddling out long fingers and he starts working on a Dell computer. He just, they use him as IT. He just starts unscrewing a Dell computer. I guess they put more memory in it or something. And they were looking to see how he would react to the fact that a gray alien was working on a fucking computer. And it's, the story is amazing. He gets in trouble. Bring it up and show the episode just what it is. Yeah. He got in trouble. So you got in trouble because the first time he met a reptilian, he poked the reptilian in the eye. No. And reptilian see humans as essentially just like below snails. Like we are look fit. We're just hideous foul animals in the cloak. One of these things in the eye means you are going to be tortured. When you poke it in the eye, did he say if it feels like and I like as if you poked one of us in the eye or is it almost just like putting your finger into like a gelatin or like a water like a pool of water? You're going to have to come do it. We're going to have to have you on the show because that is the level of interviewing skills. I don't have. Why didn't I ask? What does a reptilian's eyeball feel like? I didn't ask. It's a, I missed it. They obviously have because their eyes are to see fucking bird bass into another realm. Oh, dude. They're evil. They're fucked up. The reptilians are really fucked up. They torture. They took him. Yeah. Did he down? Did he get tortured? Dude. Okay. Hold on. Dude. I do want to hear it, but also to laugh because it always makes me laugh, dude. Because here's the crazy thing and I'm going to be right back to it. We're going back. Please. Rep to aliens. They're fucking bullies. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm so glad you're saying it out loud. And nobody ever says it, dude. All they do, they take somebody away. They kind of put their knuckle in their butt or something or they're fucking like, you know, fuck them in the mouth. They're just, they're dirty. Dude, I wouldn't be surprised if you were in the secret space program based on what you're saying. It's almost a direct account of how they torture you. What did he say? He knows what happened? Let me try to kill this fly, dude. Actually, maybe let's, let's let's science have its way. Let's see what it goes for. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see you. It ends up. Let's see who it drains at the end. It's going to drain one of us. This is a new game show at the end. The fly. There's a fly that's flying around. Whoever it doesn't like or whatever or whoever it does like really is the one who's blood. It takes. Yeah. Let's see. I think there's two. That's a problem. Oh, yeah. There'll probably a couple of guys. It's probably Ted Lincoln and his buddy. Come on. Take the blood. Yeah. They in some, they use your, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Do they say what, do they say what happened? Did he say what happened? How did the torture go? They, first of all, they didn't torture him on earth. As it turns out on the moon, there are these like government facilities where they are mining helium. Oh, we did it at their place or whatever. They took, no, the US military because the US military is in control of the reptilians. They transported him to a moon prison where this guy you interviewed. Yeah. He was on a prison on the moon and how do you get to the, how do you get to the interview to send an Uber? What? I don't know how they get them to the moon. It's no, how do you get to the, your interview calling you called in from Florida. He called him from Florida, which is basically our version of like V like that's our version of like alienism these days. That's right. It's a call in from Florida. He called in from Florida. He's a, he's a very sweet guy, by the way, really good storyteller. And here's where it gets really weird. So you know, they're torturing you up there on the moon. And, but also as it turns out, it was a Mexican guy. Sorry, no, it was a Mexican guy. I don't know it's ethnicity. It was a, it was a call in. So I didn't get to see him. Why do you ask? Because all, all Mexican dudes want to go to, want to go to space, you know, they don't act like another, like it, but I got like a couple of clothes, uh, nice and friends. They all want to go to space. Well, don't you want to go to space? Yeah. Kind of not that much anymore. Like, I don't know. Like I, if I want to, like, if I'm going, I'm going to leave. I'm not going to go out there and come back. I'm like, I can be some little bitch. It's like, I'll be back or whatever. You're not going to bathe us. You're not going to go up a little fucking dick rocket and float around up there. And I don't think bathe us went up there. Did he? I think, did he go up there? He just sent up like five or six people out that I think that I heard that he wants to smash or whatever. Dude, and then brought him back down. It was like, it's like someone of his little flying smash bucket. Yeah, he's been, he flew on a suborbital suborbital. I don't know if that counts, man. But no, for the new shepherd rocket, I want to go out of orbit. I want to go toward like somewhere in between earth and the moon. Dude, you can hit suborbital just taking the direct flight up to Calgary, dude. Oh, wait, he did do a 10-minute flight cross the car, the carman line, the recognized boundary of space and reach an apogee. But you know, Bezos, sending a bunch of hotties up in his rocket is the modern day equivalent of like driving ladies around in your Corvette. It's like what oligarchs do to get laid. It's just like sending up to space. Yeah. But yeah, you know, that's true. So the guy who's been in this space and was molested in a moon prison, gets uber over to you. Oh, he's a call in. He was molested in a moon, but you're right. This is, but how I'm sorry, it's not funny. Let me know. Well, first of all, whether or not it's funny, or not, I need to point out something here. I did not say he got molested in the moon prison. You knew it. Why? Why do you know that? Were you in the gate program? Yes. Dude, guys, oh my god, you were in gifted and talented. You know what that was. Yeah, it was easy to get into an art town. Okay, but do you know what it was? Yes. I've heard there's that there's possibilities that they were, uh, it was like a CIA, like a sia, not a possibility. Like that is, you can look that up. That like no way serious. Dude, you can look it up. It was so like the idea was, it kind of makes sense. Like if you're running a country, who are the smart kids, right? You want to find out like the super smart kids, you create a program that separates those kids from the rabble, and then via that in that program, you can start assessing them to see whether or not they be good to work in intelligence, CIA, covert programs, or just like any like federal job. And then you start grooming those kids. You start and where it gets like into the deep conspiracy stuff is you, they were looking for kids. You had like, you know, telepathic ability. Oh, I thought nice legs or something you're going to say. So it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. It wasn't like a pedophilic thing. So go ahead, they were looking for kids that have what? Yeah, the secret, look, uh, telepathic ability. Public school, operated by local school districts, blah, blah, blah, to provide the military intelligence, the secret military unit focused on psychic espionage and remote viewing us often called the Stargate project. What's that? That's not our thing. Yeah, it is. We were in military intelligence, dude. We weren't doing shit. We read my side of the mountain. Well, right. That's that's what you remember. But do you remember the, did you get the weird headphone test? Yeah. What the fuck was that? Do you remember the weird shit they made you drink? It kind of is true, dude. They had this fucking headphone test. We would take like once every quarter. Yeah. What was that? What does that have to do with being gifted and talented testing your hearing? What is that? Why'd they put that on us? Why'd they make us drink that weird pink shit? What were they doing to us? Why do most people don't remember it as well as you do? Most people, it's a foggy, weird memory. The whole thing was some kind of bizarre, federal program. You think that that's true? Look, I look, there's a, now, I mean, this is one of the the many conspiracy theories that is not so much conspiracy theory or that you could look it up. You could see some of it is obviously speculation, some of it's real. So we don't know, but-- - Yeah, what were they doing? - They wanted to find kids who would be great assassins. - Fuck. - Dude, and none of our kids made it then. - I didn't make it. Did you make it through? Did they kick you out of the gate program? - No, I stayed in and-- - Wow. - It got a little too homeworky for me at one point. - Yeah, yeah, it was a lot, it was a lot. - I wasn't a company man. That's what it was at a certain point. I think I wasn't a company man. So funny, I have never thought about this in years, dude, but yeah, we had to go off in this special building and learn out there or whatever. - Yeah, they separate you. They separate you, and it was very strange. I think I made it like two weeks before they kicked me out, but yeah, I just think they wrote the test and work. He's a fucking idiot. I don't think it had anything to do with compliance or not compliance. - You seem like they would have been there target, though. - I didn't make it, I didn't make it in, I didn't get to be in the secret space program, and maybe that's a good thing. But yeah, according to this guy, there's brothels on the moon. It'll change the way you look at the moon. There's brothels, the miners on the moon are geniuses. Like who brought the fucking miners up there? It's like a, is it Lutnik and them or whatever? - Dude, I don't know. You know what, you don't want to get lost in the weeds when a dude is telling you about fucking on the moon. - Yeah, you're right. - 'Cause he was banging on the moon. - You're lying. - Dude, they have fucking on the moon. - They he was fucking on the moon. Like God. They have brothels. They, for the, like, for, in between getting tortured, you get to go to the moon brothels and look at it all on. (laughing) It's the best. It's the best what hold on a second dude. - You guys just listen to the episode. Like I'm not even doing it justice because there's so much more detail. There's kind of a love story. He kind of like fell in love with a nurse. Like it though, it's kind of romantic. And you know, he talks about all these densities, like the way they shift you to get to the moon is like, like the reptilians are on the fourth density. We're on the third density. Aliens function like at a different vibrational frequency. They have devices that shift your frequency and can reverse age you. So I can see that being possible, some of it. - You just, who knows? - Well, 'cause you know what? You start to see that frequency stuff. You see that frequency when people put the sand on certain things and frequency. - Simatics. - It's called simatics? - Yes. - Yes. - Simatics, if you can, just so we can see what we're talking about. - Love simatics. - If you haven't seen this, it's basically they put sand and curriculum from Wrong Dung and they put sand on a paint, on like a flat plane. And then they play music through it. And the sand forms certain like kind of like snowflakes or text, like figures or textures or designs. - That's right, predictable geometries from various frequencies. They, it produces these like interesting patterns that sometimes kind of look like crop circles. And that's ketamine on that plate. - Is it really? - It works way better with cat. I would always do this before I snorted ketamine and put it on a simatic plate, set it to, yep, 47. - Dude, what if you crunched up a bunch of free-dose on there? - It would work. - It'd probably be like, you're fat. (laughing) - You'll die young. - That's a new scale. - Yeah. - Yeah, but this is real stuff. So this is forwarded to, yeah. - So these are the hertz, different hertz they put through. And if you've never seen this, it's unbelievable that, so this makes me think that we could just like this, some way that if you put a different frequency through us, you could then transfer us from one place to another because you could shape us in a different way to be able to be transported. - Exactly, and you know, what is, like, well, I think of this shit, I just think of like, oh, right, like when people get into conspiracy theories and stuff, inevitably there's like this hierarchy where there's someone controlling someone else who's controlling someone else and it's like, it's reptiles all the way down. Like, where does it stop? Like, who's like, ultimately in control? But I think of simatics where it's like, well, maybe, maybe like the way things keep repeating throughout history in sort of the same way because there's these various frequencies that exist on planet earth. There's frequencies that create power dynamics, that create authoritarianism, tyranny, fascism, like cruelty, war, and you can tune into that frequency and the more you tune into that frequency, the more you like, your shape changes. - Oh, why would that not be? Dude, that's such a, that's simatics. The study of visible sound and vibration, demonstrating how acoustic frequencies organize physical matter in a geometric pattern. Because human body is largely water, sound waves travel rapidly through us, making it possible to use frequency and vibration for various wellness, therapeutic and clinical applications. Dude, this is one of the most unbelievable things that I've really, I think that I've thought about in a while because if you see that, do that to that sand, right? - Yeah. - And if you know, yeah, what if you put a frequency on that's like, I'm gonna feel this way or this is the frequency that's tuned into this, almost like a new radio station for yourself, like instead of tuning into like no frequency, where I'm just at the whims of the fucking, at the byproduct and like exhaust of corporate, the corporate universe we live in, I'm just wandering through that frequency all day. What if I spent time tapping into a frequency that actually brought me some peace or frequency that brought, like it made me exude like love or possibility or hope or power or protection? - Yeah, well, I mean, this is a choice, you know, you're sitting on the toilet, taking a shit, looking at whatever the algorithm's feeding, you'll notice the output. - And I'll throw the shit out, I'm gonna hopefully hit someone, so it- - Well, you can aim. - Right, but also so it hits someone and boosts their spirits. - I know, but what I'm saying is, you don't have to just randomly throw it, you can aim, you can slingshot it. - But go on, so you're sitting on the toilet going? - Well, however all of us are like staring into these hypno-rectangels, the algorithm, at least my algorithm, oh my God, it's fucked up, it's just showing me like horrible things or people in the midst of psychotic episodes or people in the forest drinking their period blood or you know, just a, oh, it's wild chaos. - It's witchcraft, new beverages, yeah, but it's crazy, dude. You'll go from like, it is crazy, dude. There's definitely scrambling our brains and we're starting to, like, with the things you see, 'cause you'll see like, genocidal killings of children, right, children looking, kid looking for his mother for 70 days, finally finds landmine in Palestine, you know, like a landmine wearing his mother's dress and they kill the child or whatever. - Horrible. - You'll see that, but then immediately, it's like 40% off these A6, you know? And you're like, that's right, that's right. - But it starts to confuse your brain because your brain, it takes the depth of one that's so deep and one that means nothing really at all. - You got it. - And then it puts them kind of in all in the same plane. - You better watch out, 'cause you just articulated something that I've learned from Matt'sker, which is really, like, it's, for me, like, it's, believe it or not, I'm kind of skeptical about stuff, but this one, like, it's hard for me to dispute. And so he says that assassinations, public assassinations, create trauma, cultural trauma, Charlie Kirk. Did you notice the Charlie Kirk assassination? Everyone saw it. - Yes. - Before they shut it down, all of a sudden to watch that shit happen, right? So this produces trauma. The trauma response opens you up to conditioning. It's the same shit kidnappers use. It's the same shit people who torture you use. They freak you the fuck out so that you kind of disassociate. You don't wanna be there. You go into a kind of sad, foggy place. And then in that place, they show you the ASICs commercial. In that place, they give you some propaganda. In that place, they give you a solution. So this will never happen again. This is a known technique for mind controlling people. So anytime there's assassinations, it's not just like power dynamic shift. It's cultural dynamic shift, because they inject that moment with however they wanna shift the tide. So Instagram is, or any social media, it's kind of doing this, but like low level. So you look, you know, suddenly you're. - Micro dosing it. - Yeah, it's like opening, like freaking you out, and then what do you know? And then where it gets really creepy is the commercial you're getting. Isn't just from the algorithm, it's 'cause your phone heard you talking about wanting to, like what's the best fish in rod to catch catfish? And then so right after you watch a furry eat a hot dog with a human turd in it. And you're like, what's happened in the world? Like an ad for like fishing rods comes up. You're like, oh, cool. I should get that fishing rod. - And dude, speaking hot dogs, dude. Foot long hot dogs, that should count as, white people eating foot long hot dogs should count as reparations, dude. (laughing) - Oh my God, this ass. - I'm just saying, like. - Disastat of baseball game, whatever. Having to eat them in public, dude. It's so fucking scary. - It's crazy that that's accepted that that's not studied. - Yeah. And that's the kind of thing that they're getting us to do. It's like these little, and they're sitting in a fucking globe, like they're sitting in a snow globe on the moon outside of a brothel on the moon that they own. You know, probably just like descaling their skin with their reptilian brush. - You got it. - And then they're watching us, like just like streaming, like countless hours of us eating foot long hot dogs, you know. And like, and then they say, then they hit you with the reparations thing, you know? Like, will you sign for reparations? You know, it's like, yeah, whatever it is. It's like, you know. You know, it's, but the reality of it is your, you know, a vampire only goes where they're invited. That's a vampire rule for some reason. Never understood it, but a vampire only goes. So if a vampire comes to your door, they'll always ask, like, can I come in? And if you say no, they won't come in. I don't get it, but that's vampire mythology. So your phone is the fucking vampire and you're inviting it in every time you stare at it. You're saying, please contaminate me with a combination state propaganda, propaganda from other countries, corporate propaganda, and like, just weird shit, like you're inviting, we're all inviting this in. You all you gotta do is stop, which I can't. It's hard. It's hard, but it's almost impossible. You can do, I think there's ways to do better. The ways that I've found that help me are one, some meditation helps. I do meditation every day now. It's not a ton, 10 minutes, but it helps somebody's, I'll get in two sessions. But it's not a ton, but it gives me a little bit more space sometimes, like, ah, I don't need that. It'd be times like, let me look at my phone now. I don't need that. And then the other thing I think is different types of plant medicine can help you, can help give a little bit that more you could connect you back to nature. Those are the two that I know. - Well, but it's too much, man. - I think 10 minutes of meditation a day is actually pretty admirable, man. A lot of people can't do that. That's, you shouldn't beat yourself up about that. I mean, like, how long were you told to meditate? - I don't know, I just feel like the good people do it for such a long time. - 20 minutes, maybe. - Like, yeah, like 20 minutes seems good. But they did have those monks who were those, don't monks meditate? - Yeah, man. - Yeah. Well, dude, but then they found those monks with math or whatever, can you look that up? - What? - There's math monks. - Math monks. Oh, yeah, they were, were they smuggling dope? No. - What was it? - A third of monks at a temple in Thailand. (laughing) That's gotta be hard to meditate. - Third of the Buddhist monks at a temple in northern Thailand have tested positive for math. Six out of 18 monks at what problem in Pijit province were just robes after failing surprise drug tests during a police raid on Monday. - Wow, that's interesting. - This has also found math pills, a homemade gun, and what the fuck? - What the fuck, what the fuck? - A gun. - That's good. - Oh my god. - A gun, dude, a gun is the total opposite of being a monk. - That is a crazy temple. And that is, I just, do you think a math would help you meditate? - A math would help you meditate? No, you would be like, dude, you would be doing all, all the prayers, like as fast as you could. It'd be like, our father who art in Thailand, I'll do the math in Thailand. I'm gonna do the math in northern Thailand. I'll do the math in Thailand. Dude, maybe you have a copy of the chantron under your pillow. Maybe, maybe. That's the most risky thing you're supposed to have as a monk. Yeah, dude, that's wild. That's just, I guess that's what's happening right now, man. People are, people are fucking snorting math in temples. They disrobed them, which is wild. But I bet you're high. If you're a whole math doubt, I bet you want your robe off. You're, you're not really a monk. Yeah, dude. My buddy was a monk for like almost, I think almost six months. What kind of monk? I don't know, sure, it was an organ. What color were his robes? I think his robes is just orange kind of. Probably a Buddhist monk. Yeah. Yeah, Buddhist monk. And he said that they would sit around and this is kind of crazy, but he said someone said they would sit around and draw hair on each other, 'cause they all had their head shaved. And they would sit around for fun and draw hair on each other. And it was kind of like the kind of the low-key can like, you know, or whatever, like kind of a sweet thing that I heard, you know? It's weird. I don't know, man. - I don't want it, that creeps me out. - Bro, the other guys are doing methamphetamine. (laughing) I don't know what it's worse. - Our father were, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - How did they were probably drawing hair on each other too? - As we've been there, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were. - There should be a contest to see how fast can someone say the Lord's Prayer did. - You want to do a contest, you want to do a race? - You think you could do it? Do you know it? - Yeah, I know it. - Okay, then let's try. You go first, all right. - Zach, will you time us? - So, you can tell me when he started, should I just say? - Yeah, how does it work? - Uh, I went kind of you down, ready? Three, two, one. - Our father, Martin, I will be thy name, the kingdom come thy will be done in earth, this is heaven, give us this day, every day, we write and forgive us, we'll trust us, we'll trust us, we'll trust us, it gets us, and we just not temptation, but deliver us from you. For thine is the kingdom of the power of the glory forever and ever. Amen. - Oh, that was good. - But I kind of slurred. - 9.28 seconds. - Under 10's great, dude, especially this time of year. All right. - You mean the summer heat? - Let me think. All right. Do we? Yeah. - Two, one. Our father right now that out of the other name came and come that one again on earth to give us a daily bread or give me so and forget me. Oh, Another chance give me another chance. You stop. Oh, that's okay. I miss some words give us a Daily bread and forgive us over our trespasses for we forgive those who trust me. I'm gonna be sure on our time What did it start again? Sorry? 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It would get so hot And then you have to open up the windows and but then the hot would come in, you know and Then you but they get so hot inside you have to open up the doors and then in the hot would go out and in and out There was just a lot of hot Thankfully, I had me some mountain do Just a refreshing Whew, it was like the heavens cut the false at our own And I could just enjoy myself Just Just doing just doing myself with that mountain do I liked it If I had me a candidate to a mountain do I go out I'd pet every dog in town That's how I I just became like that neighborly American, you know That's how I became I'd be shaking the hands of local raccoons and politicians and All of them, you know, I'd watch this I'd watch the wind go by maybe whistle at Let it know I had a way of Making my own little breeze right there Something about that summertime and And just having a little bit of mountain do in you Maybe you would just want to get out there and just kiss a bald eagle You know, and some of you settle for your grandmother or whatever you know little kiss on the cheek whatever, you know Pop-pop didn't mind what I'm saying is this Mountain do it's just It's an alternative to the heat, but it's also part of It's part of summer But dude you win first of all congratulations. Thank you so much 9.8 seconds. That was really good Yeah, actually I can't believe I even you know, that's why like for our father in under 10 seconds That's yes, I think it's good And I would love to see other people if they want to challenge junk and on that they will crush me There's gonna be critiques to there's different ways to say it depending on what the nomination you are I think that was what I learned as an episcopalian, but I think there's my wife's Catholic I think they say a part of it are different, but I don't know if that's gonna add or subtract seconds Dude my girl Catholic put that back to back Yeah I'm just making up. I don't have a girl, but if I did you don't have a girl No, but she'd be cute if I did well. It must be tough to find a girlfriend for you Huh just to hand some dude with a super successful podcast one day. I'm gonna get one I mean, it's comedian. I think you know what there's like an age where I think it gets a little bit weird and then Maybe I'm just you know what I think some of the stories I tell him I had I got a change a little bit. Yes Dude, there's this and you know what's funny. I never said that. I've never said that before you've never said that come on There's a book not really no, but the ones I'm telling myself because I don't even realize they're being told They've just been written on this wall like these old like this is the way it is or whatever It's like dude. I'm gonna find somebody great. Of course it takes time. Everything in my life is taking time and Yeah, I don't want to get somebody that's just like I'm you know like I want to have some fun But at the same time like yeah, I want I want somebody that's gonna be a as perfect a fit as I can get dude - There's this book and it sounds like bullshit and I actually got the book because I was watching that documentary on Nexium. You know Nexium cult, Keith Reneere, you know about that? - Yeah, we had a guy on here from Nexium, didn't we? Oh no, we had a guy who got bit by a dog at a Nexium event. - At what? - I'm not even joking, who was that guy? - That sucks. - He was fine. - He was like at a cult event and a dog event. - And he got bit by a dog, but that's how he got involved with the cult. - Whoa. - Oh, that was it? No, Michael was a mom, no, not him. - That's out, yeah. - Oh, he was talking about Alice in Maxx, cult. - Yeah. - There was another guy who'd been cured of, oh, he got cured by, of OCD. - Yeah, cured by Nexium. - Cured by Nexium. Yeah, cured by Nexium. Mark Elliott. - Yeah. - Oh, look at me right there. He was young, I'd say aye. - You look younger now. - Well, I'm older now, but also, not if I'm definitely older if I keep telling myself that I'm a fucking boss. I'm a fucking non-year-old, you little f*ck. - Mark Elliott, informant of motivational speaker and loyal follower of Keith Renier and his organization of XM, a purported self-improvement company. I believe he got bit by a dog. I could be wrong, but I thought the dog, something happened, he got cured. He was diagnosed with her sprogs disease. - A rare intestinal disease at birth. - I mean, it was returning home from a camp, a Greyhound bus when he repeatedly shouted an anti-black racial slur at black passengers. That's called riding Greyhound, first of all. And I think some of that comes with the price of your ticket, I believe, also. - Yep. - I rode G-Hound for a long time, shout out, "Hound." Oh, 'cause he had a Tourette, though. That's why. Did he ever cure it, did they say? - He claims they cured it. - He cured it. - It's in the documentary, like it shows people being, like, it did not cure my Tourette in any way. - Oh, well, why did we have him on the puck as he said he did? - In the documentary that I saw, it was cool. I mean, it was claiming that they cured it. - Oh, well, so maybe it says it didn't, it didn't cure his Tourette, but I thought I can't remember exactly what happened in the episode, it was just like, it was like seven years ago. - And the documentary I saw, it was, you know, some people, it seemed like it was helping, but I heard about this book on this documentary, and I was fascinated by this Renere guy, 'cause it's like, you see him, and he doesn't really seem like somebody who would successfully start a sex cult. - Bring him up. - You know what I mean? - No judgment or anything, but it wouldn't be, like, the first person I would guess, you look at, like, pull up a picture of, like, young Charles Manson and Keith Renere. Manson, you look at it and you're like, "Yee, okay, there he is." This dude was getting ladies to brand his name into their fucking bodies. - No way. - Yes, yes. Now, you look at him and you wouldn't guess that, but pull up like a picture of Manson. - That's a Montana shirt. - Young Manson. - Bring young Manson. - Or if not that young, but, you know, that Manson. You look at him and you're like, "Yeah, I could see you "starting some kind of sex cult." I could see your members cutting swastikers into their foreheads, but this dude looks like somebody, your mom, dates, before she marries your stepdad. - But this dude does look like he has a dark side to him, dude. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, this is just all based off of one photo, but that guy looks like yeah, he dates your mom, he thinks he's nice, he comes in the house and says cool stuff. - Yeah. - But he doesn't come through kind of his promises, and then you see him yelling at your mom outside of the apartment window. - Yeah, man. Yeah, that's that fucking dude. - That's what it is. - Keith Rainier, could we get him on here? - He's in jail. - He is? - Maybe you could call him from jail. - Dude, jail, that's the most sex trafficking you could ever do. It's bumper to bumper in there, dude. - I know. He, in this guy, he, like, it's in the documentary, he's incredible. And, you know, obviously, it's horrible, like doing this shit's horrible, but when you, when you just watch it in terms of like, well, like the ambition, like, oh my God, how did you pull that off? And so if they mentioned this book, Psycho Cybernetics, which sounds like horseshit, the name sounds stupid, but I got this book and started listening to it, and it's this plastic surgeon wrote the book, and he noticed that you would give plastic surgery to people and their personalities would change, fix their nose, and they would turn into these different people. And so his premise is that there's sort of an internal visual image of yourself inside of you. And so, so basically, like, if you look at what you think about throughout the day, and a lot of people worry, ruminate. They're constantly bringing up things they're afraid of in the future, or shit, they wish they didn't do in the past. And this is what's creating the you. It's you're habitually running through a roll of decks of bad memories and internal fears and stuff. And so he's saying that what's really cool about that, is it shows you how disciplined you are. You think you have no control over that, but you do, it's just habit. And so what he says is, there's a lot of techniques in there, but one of them is, what happens if you, and you start abituating yourself to remembering good moments in your life, instead of bad moments in your life. And it sounds so obvious, but every time you find yourself getting freaked out over that fucking memory, the thing, what you're worried about, the thing, you replace it. And he says it doesn't have to be a big thing, like winning a marathon. He's like, he uses the example of, when you learn to tie your shoes. - Yeah. - You know, some, just when somebody smiled at you. - Yes. - When you smiled at someone. - Yeah, that's enough. And you start replacing this habitual rumination with good memories. Even if they're from the distant past, it doesn't matter. All of a sudden, your life starts changing, because your inner identity will begin to conform to the thinks that you begin to lead your outer identity. - That's right. Yeah, you start making different choices, all the stuff changes in your life. So his point is you don't really need to get plastic surgery. He was saying that some people get a scar on their face and it makes them more powerful. Like he was, I think the Nazis, the fencing Nazis, if you got a scar on your face, it means you were like a great fencer. - Yeah. - But some people get a scar on their face, ruined their life. - Right. - You know, so obviously what's going on there is not the external appearance. - Wow, it's how you're wearing it. - You got it. - Dang. And I wonder if, what if we all just don't even, I've long thought this. What if we all don't realize there's so much more capability that we have that we just don't know? I believe that that's such a truth. Like what if you could think your way into looking somehow different? That's almost, that's almost, it's interesting for a plastic surgeon to say that 'cause it's like, yeah. What if people could think or believe themselves into actually that you're, that you would then visually somehow look different? Like I know it probably would be tough to really unstructure your, like it wouldn't, skeletonly that would be probably impossible. But on a, but on a different type of level or could your skeleton morph over time? It's interesting to think that, wow. If I had enough of a leaf, or if I purveyed this type of energy, or I just envisioned it enough, then I would actually become the thing that I envisioned. - Well, pull up, pull up like an early picture of Marilyn Monroe before she got famous. - I'd go visit her grave sometimes. - You really do? Is she a Nashville? - She lives, or she dies. I guess she lives in a coffin around the corner from where I live at. - You lives in a coffin? - That's the craziest way to save his head. - Yeah, she's deceased. - She's living in a coffin now. - Yeah, but she's, yeah. So that's her? - Yeah. - So that's Marilyn Monroe. - Oh, bro. - Yeah. - Now we'll say this. She's an attractive young lady. She's not the Marilyn Monroe that we envision when you-- - She's still beautiful. That's you sure that's her? - Yeah, like find some other like early pictures of Marilyn Monroe before she was famous. I don't know how you find that. 'Cause like a lot of these are like modeling pictures. But when you look at them, it's like, there you go. And like, you know, obviously you could say, I'd sucker feet still, but you could say that this was, you know, lighting makeup and stuff like that. But there's a story I heard. I don't know if it's true or not. Marilyn Roe is at a diner. She's with one of her like, I think childhood friends. And like, you know, no one even knows this Marilyn Roe. And Marilyn Roe says to her friend, do you wanna see what happens when I become her? And her friend's like, yeah. And so all of a sudden, she does something and turns like essentially shapeshifts. Like she embodies Marilyn Roe and everyone in the cafe starts looking at her like, oh my God, that's Marilyn Roe. So this is what this dude is talking about. And you know, how many times have you been with a person who maybe isn't like classically beautiful, but their personality is so amazing that you start falling in love with. You realize the physical appearance, it's nothing compared to this spirit inside of them. And the coverse sadly happens where you're around a beautiful person and you realize, oh my God, this is a monster. And it's so fascinating. It's just the shell, it's like a lampshade or something. It's like what kind of light is shining through? - Dude, that's a great way to say that man. It's like a lampshade. - There it is. - The Marilyn Roe shapeshift or refers a famous anecdote where she could alter her appearance simply by changing her posture and energy when walking down a busy street unnoticed as normal gene. She would turn to a companion asked, "Do you want to see her?" and instantly transform into the iconic Maryland. People who were with Maryland during these moments such as her friend Eli Wallach or the actress Susan Straussburg noted that she changed nothing about her clothes or makeup instead of the transformation was a masterclass in embodiment, wow. It's wild. That stuff is wild that you could do that. But it is interesting, yeah, how I feel, what do I carry, what am I going to take outside with me today? What am I going to take inside with me today, you know? And I applaud parents because I know their lives get so busy and the time that they have to even take for themselves and the time that one of them is like, "Hey, will you keep watch for a little bit while I just go meditate for 10 minutes or brush my teeth or pat myself on the back or cry in the bathroom?" Yeah. You know? Yeah, it gets wild. It gets a real war, it's a real tandem, it's a real, if it's working well, I bet it's a real tandem thing and sometimes it's painful and sometimes it's beautiful and sometimes it's probably a lot of things. But I applaud that the amount of time parents has has to be like, "Oh my God, well, you know, but the thing is, and you're right and you're totally right, the amount of free time I have now compared to the free time I used to have, like I could spend days, days alone in my house, blasting reals Academy, completely happily alone, playing video games alone, and I would get bummed out if I had something to do like two days, two days away, I'd be dressed out like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, but, bro, that's when you know you're going to be doing some drugs." But now, I have no, very, what people would call free time, but what is free time? The real question is, like, the example that I've been taught in Buddhism is we all have a version, a place where this is where I'm going to feel all right, and for like a lot of people, maybe not touring stand up comics, but for a lot of people, that could be a hotel room, a nice hotel room. You can order room service, the TV, the soft bed, no disturbances, phone is off. Now I will relax. So this creates a terrible tension between every other moment, like everyone has their place, the place or everything. This is where I'm going to be. Some people just come and go after a hard day's work, sit on the couch, whatever it is. For some people, everyone has their little oasis in their mind. This is the place. But the idea is, this is an illusion. The oasis is an illusion. You go into that place, the place isn't giving you relaxation. The place isn't giving you peace. You're deciding, this is where I will be at peace. Theoretically, you could do that through the whole fucking day. Your whole day could theoretically become that place that you're hoping to get to when you have enough money, when you finally get a vacation, when you finally get a moment to yourself. And this is what I have read, is one of the definitions of enlightenment. Enlightenment, this is a definition I heard, because it's even defining it as difficult and who the fuck knows. The idea is, what if every place you were at was free time, even though it was filled up with all kinds of activity, even though there were things you had to do? What if you were maintaining this sense of like, yeah, this is where I belong? This is good. This is the vacation. And this is in the third patriarch of Zen, wrote this great book. And Buddha's me learn this? Oh yeah, the first line, I wish I could, the name is like, I think, Japanese. Can you look up the third patriarch of Zen? And yeah, that's it. And he wrote, "The great way is not difficult for those who have no preferences." Your preferences are tormenting your actions. You want to be there. You don't want to be here. You want to be somewhere else. And when you're a parent, your preferences will destroy you. Because you obviously, there's moments that I just want to play Diablo 4, dude. I just want to sit on the fucking couch and play Diablo 4. I just want to be alone. I don't want to be around anybody for a second. That's a preference. And the more you cling to that, the more you'll suffer. The part of the soul that burns in hell is the part that cleansed a life. Wow. That might be the record. But, dude. I think about that stuff a lot, dude, with like, Senna's with like, reliving old parts in my past or old stories or just like, yeah, old things that happen. It's like, how long do I want to think I have to figure this out? Before I just want to set up some barricades for myself now, it's like, hey, we're not going to go try to figure that out anymore. We're just going to move on, right? And we're going to move on. And we're going to put boundaries in place so that when this thing or the certain types of people or this energy comes around, that this is how we're going to behave towards it. Yeah. And we're not going to be like, mean to it or anything, but this is how we're going to operate now instead of like, I get stuck in this place of like, well, I'll figure this out or a little more therapy in this and that. And the therapy and stuff, it's all good, right? It's all helpful. It's all like puts a magnifying glass on things that are cool. But at some point, be like, you know, this path, it's a lot, I don't know, I've been on this path for a while. Let me try to do something else. Let me try to move forward. Let me try to not even let this be a, like, let me really let this be part of the past. Instead of going back to the past to solve something, like that's the thing, sometimes I keep going back to the past to solve the present where it's like, let me try and do this maybe a little bit different. And so I've just been thinking about that recently. Thanks so much for some of the chats, dude. I want to find out what's a rabbit hole or like something that you guys have learned on mystery, on mystery boys. And I just want to get this update, the guest, Mark Elliott, clarifies that he does not claim to have been cured of Tourette syndrome. Instead, he describes his experience as a journey where he found a way to master the condition, noting that while the symptoms have drastically reduced, he still feels the urge occasionally and works to change his relationship with it. That's interesting. Yeah. Write it down. That's what I do, dude. Write it down. With mystery boys, what is a rabbit hole kind of that you or something knew that you guys have looked like the last onto that's been like really interesting to go down that you and Metzger have I got to give full credit to Metzger for most of the rabbit holes. Like I'm telling you this guy, he like it's do you think he's good or evil when you think about him? He's good. Okay. Very good. This is pop quiz, man. Why do you think he's? No, I don't know. I was asking you. He actually text me and told me to ask you that. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not kidding you at all. So it's just a good. Oh, he's the sweetest. I know him. I've already decided how I feel about he's good, I really good. I wouldn't do a fucking podcast with a evil person. Why would you do that to yourself? That's horrible. Dude, do you ever think what if one day you got home years from now and you started to notice like something like the like your scanner on your chin or something and you started peeling it and then you took it off and what if we were the aliens dude. Oh my God. Oh my God. Like this whole time. Yeah. We've been trying to hunt the aliens. Sure. You're like, what is that? Dude. You think it's acne and it's just fucking abracadabra, you're an alien. Oh my God. And then you peel the alien mask off and you're human. Yeah. And you're a cool black guy. So what the fuck are you man? What are you? To turn it up. Yeah. Yeah. You know, spin that shit. How about this dude? I'll give you a quick one. Yeah, take me down. But I want to go down a rabbit hole. And that was uh, and no curtain as an ass either, I was just joking around dude. These are far from evil. But um, Metzger did give me a little bit of trivia, which I'd never heard before, which is the most batshit thing ever. So John Wayne Gacy, the famous serial killer. For Milanoia. Yeah. Horrible mother fucker. The clown. Yeah, pedophile. John Wayne Gacy, pedophile fucking clown. Horrible human being, he blazey too lazy killed people put him under his house. Oh yeah. He said that if he was guilty of anything, it was running a funeral home without a license because he had rotting child corpses under his fucking house. Also, weirdly political in um, so John Wayne Gacy was executed on a solar eclipse, which is already weird like well, you know, you know, there's going to be eclipse that day. Right. Why are you executing one of the most notorious serial killers like on the day that like in a horror movie, that's how you get a zombie Freddy Krueger. That's how you get a demon or something execute the person as a solar eclipse. They come back to life or they aren't your dreams. So that's just weird by itself. But coincidentally, Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized and I'm not sure into what denomination of Christianity on the same day. Another fucking serial killer baptized while during the execution of like so, so so a spiritual realm is open. Yes. and a calendar, a seasonal A, what realm would that be? - What do you mean? - Like the spiritual realm is open with the baptism. Like there's a spiritual embodiment happening. - And in eclipses, in the West, we think they're cool. Everyone goes out and you get your eclips glasses. Everyone goes out to look, they are fucking cool. I've been there, they're amazing. It's amazing to witness the temperature drops. Shadows get weird, but like, you know, one of my friends, who's like a shy-vite for real, who like, you know, Hindu, follower of Shiva, you know, he was explaining to me like, in India, eclipses are not something you wanna go out under. Like it's, it's, it's represented opening where a lot of weird shit can come into this realm. So, you know, his advisors don't go outside during eclips, like you don't understand the energies that are out there, this is in their cosmology. So it's a very powerful, even if you're not into the woo stuff, it's a very crazy thing that happens and it bird stops singing. You know, they think it's night time all of a sudden, like it's just a very deep spiritual moment. So why, why do you execute this monster during an eclipse? And why do you baptize another monster during the eclipse? And why, why on the same day, and how is that accidental? And maybe that's simatics. I don't know. Maybe that's just part of like the weird secret gears in the universe we don't know about. But to me, it's very fascinating when moments like that emerge. - Right, when the curtains are open a little bit into the ethereal, into the next realm, when somebody spiritually, you're kind of your, when there's an anointment in an embodiment, putting the blessing somebody with the embodiment of God, like bringing God into their heart, you know? - Right, right. - That's risky behavior, dude. I wonder if, do you know if, it's kind of weird that we get people to go outside and look up into the eclipse, then. Was that always a practice, or did people used to not stare into the eclipse? - Oh no, dude, people went blind for sure. I think there's a famous-- - A people went blind it's 'cause they were eight years old back in the day. - Oh yeah, you just go blind from drinking water. - I mean, dude, imagine how scary, dude, everything was a game show like 200 years ago, dude. A cup of water, you could get undehidrated or tuberculosis-- - What do you want? - Explosive diarrhea, you wanna die of thirst or die of dysentery, pig. - One or the other, one or the other. - No, people have not always looked at eclipses. Historically, witnessing an eclipse was often met with fear, all are strict avoidance rather than direct observation, because ancient civilizations lacked scientific explanations. Many cultures considered the darkening of the sun to be a bad omen or disruption of the natural order. - That makes sense. - For sure, many cultures believed a celestial creature was attempting to devour the sun. The Norse blame sky wolves. The Chinese told tales of a celestial dragon and Aztecs believed the jaguar was eating the sun. People would often bang pot, scream or shoot arrows into the air to frighten the monster away. - And it worked. - Yeah, but it is, when did we start and when did we start seeing eclipses and going and watching it? - I mean, forever. - But did it become a practice? Was there something that happened that there was a big thing on television like go see the eclipse or whatever? - It was always significant. I mean, it's just like no matter what period in human history, like can you fucking imagine like not knowing what was going on? Why that was happening? - But could it have happened? - Fun would we have had back then? First of all, you get to make up what's going on, right? Or you just get to believe what's happening. But I just think the imagine, imagine everybody's imagination back then. And everybody's like storytelling, like you had to have a piece of information to even, you had to, like, life was probably scary. You had to seem viable. You had to fight for your existence probably. - Well, I mean, this is what I think is interesting. - Like you valued your life more because you fucking, your sibling was dying at home. It was like let this day meet. Let this day mean something to me. Let this information that I'm reading to, let the fact that I can absorb information, let it mean something to me. - You're saying that now maybe we've lost that. That people have become sort of numb, nihilistic husks who don't value their own existence, like they did when you watched your friend get eaten by a wolf. - Right, I think we're, it's a tough, I think we are deeper in it than we know. I think we are up to our waist right now in it. - In what? - In the suction of the devil. - Oh right. - In the suction of something deviant in the suction of the dark arts man. I believe that it is, we think we just have a nice pants on but we don't realize that we've invited the skins of like, you know, we've invited something, there's something very demonic going on. Do you think technology is inherently demonic? - Oh my God, I mean, you, it, okay. So first, like, let's define demonic. - Okay. - So what is your definition of demonic? - With intent to harm to, let me see demonic, I would say of Satan's will. - Yeah. - With intent to be a succubus to the godliness that, to the nature and morality and godliness that makes, that, that exists inside of us as a group and as individuals. - Okay, so. - Does that make sense or not? - Do you, do you, do you have Bishop Robert Barron on your show? - No, cool guy. - You gotta have him on. - BRB? - Yes. - Damn dude. - You guys were crazy though. - You guys were crazy. - You guys were crazy, the missiles to have. - Yeah, he's, he's really cool. He, he was a. - Sign him up, all right Zach? - I, I had him on my podcast and what's really interesting is actually having on my podcast got me more interested in Christianity than any other, any other time in my life and the reason was not necessarily what he told me though or what, you know, he's a really cool guy and like obviously he's like brilliant. He's a bishop and he's obviously a theologian. - He's orthodox, Greek orthodox? - He's Catholic. - Okay. - Yeah, so. But what was really weird is, you know, I've had so many guests of all kinds of, I've had Satanists on the podcast, I've had witches on the podcast, I've had Hindus, Buddhists, New Age people, LSD chemists, I've had all kinds of, you know, generally. - Wiggas? - God's Dalmatian. - I never. - You haven't? - Not yet. - Bro, that's a road to go now. That's the eclipse, dude. - No. - That's the eclipse. - No, I, I probably have. I have to go back and look at the catalog. - That's the, that's the human eclipse. - But dude, I get, I have one Catholic bishop on. - And man, people got so mad at me. And it was really interesting. 'Cause it's like, wait a minute, what the fuck? Like, you guys didn't care when I had like, people who, we're trying to demonize the guy while they get mad. - Well, because, like, basically, what started bubbling up was that I moved to Texas. I'm having a bunch of fucking kids. I become some kind of fundamentalist Christian. All this, like, I love religion. And I love Christianity. I love like, I'm fascinated by it. And the New Testament is so beautiful. And so different from what most people think it is. Like, when you sit down and actually read it yourself, if you have an idea of what Christianity is, you realize whatever that was is not what this is. Which is to me, a really sort of thrilling moment in studying any religion. Like, if you're gonna critique a religion or a philosophy, really, I think need to study it deeply. - Amen, that's a good point. - And then you can then go for it, right? - We gotta start doing that more. I think on here is learning about some of the depths of different religions. 'Cause you see a lot of stuff online that can lead you in certain ways. - But demons, Satan. - Satan and demons. I believe that Satan is way more active than we think. I think we got into this lush period of like, of self believing that something was taking care of us. Not that something doesn't love us, I believe that. But we believe that something was taking care of us that we didn't have to show up for our own salvation. Not just religiously, for our own salvation as human beings as well, for our own day to day salvation. Do you think that we are strong enough or care enough to save ourselves? - Well, I mean, I hear what you're saying. And that's a really good question. Because I think you're pointing towards a misconception or in Buddhism will be considered a distortion when it comes to what people think they are. And so in Buddhism, this shows up as something called interdependency or dependent co-origination, which means that we're all connected. That the clothes that you're wearing, everything that you are, everything around you, everything is there because of causes and conditions that created the situation that we're in. were in. So in other words, when you ask, are we enough to save ourselves? It points to a distortion, which is we think we are an individual self disconnected from the system. And of course we're not enough to save ourselves. And I don't just mean in a spiritual sense. I mean, everything that we consider that we need for survival around us right now is there because of the labor and work and energy of people you're never going to meet. The food was halted on trucks, the plastic in the Fiji bottle, your clothes, everything, your books, the trees that grew to make the wood for your son. All of these things are a point to a complete tapestry of existence, meaning there isn't such a self anyway. But if you think that you're a self, then you, if you're foolish enough to think you're all you need, it's like, look around you. Right, but not by, I mean, I agree. But do you think we as a, do you think we are strong enough to show up and save ourselves? You mean as a species? As a species because I feel like we're kind of on the brink of this place where something could happen or like where this like, like they're like, I don't know, it seems like darkness is trying to defeat us. Oh, yeah. And it feels like, are we strong enough to save ourselves? Because some days it feels like maybe, and some days it feels like maybe not. Well, I don't think, I think that, I think that the, I think a lot of people suffering is related to self cherishing. A lot of people suffering is related to being misdirected. There is a misdirective force in the universe. Now, Bishop Baron, he was telling me, well, what is the definition of Satan? Like what is it? The actual definition of the of Satan? What is it? What is it described as? And he said, it is the accuser, the scatterer, that which scatters. So if we're going to come up with a definition of the demonic, and the question is, is like this technology demonic? And let's just throw the word Satan out for a second because that does create a knee jerk reaction in people. A lot of people do have like religious trauma for real. And I know that word gets thrown around a lot, but some people are born into highly abusive households where religion is used as an excuse to fuck with the rational mind or people. It's not when, which I'm being a little bit flipping about it. No, I don't think you're being flipping. I think you're, I'm just, but yours is clarifying. Yeah, but, but so for some people, it's useful to throw out words like that. And just, you don't have to use that word if you'd, I think it's a useful word, but I could mean the devil, the dark energy, whatever you want to, you know, you know, but Satan does have like some specific definitions, the scatterer and the accuser. That's exactly what's going on. What is technology doing? It's accusing one group or another group of being the source of all the suffering in the world, the accuser. I've seen you feel accused of, you know, because of the people you have in your podcast. It's all your fucking fault, dude. Look what you've done, right? But it's not just you. It's not just you. It's what, what, what technology is doing? What the algorithm seems to be doing is creating these very clear, distorted distinctions between groups of people, right? Which is anytime you have direct one-on-one contact with most people, they're awesome. They might be annoying. They might disagree with you. Might be chatty or whatever. Chatty, but in general, they all are good. People want to help. Yeah. People actually really want to help. It's very sweet. What I agree, you get behind these phones and it's like, I mean, there's so much racial, like, I have like black friends that'll just be like, they act like they were slaves sometimes because of the fodder they get fed. They'll get stuff like, remember when you were a slave, it's like, I don't like, dude, Ronnie, what are you talking about? I'm like, your dad worked at Chase Bank. Yeah. When were you a fucking slave, you were the best player on our team, dude. You got all the girls. You got all the white girls too. Yeah. Well, look at all the stories. It's like, never when you were a slave, choose some of this slave gum and it'll say you slave, you'd be like, oh, remember this Richmond, Virginia gum, you know? Now it's like, it tastes like 1870s, you know? Dude, they're trying to replace you. Yeah. If you're white, they're trying to replace, you better watch out. You're going to be replaced. But there's some groups that never get pointed at. Well, what I'm saying is, if you look at the emergent, like you could call culture war stuff, I think you could actually identify this as a kind of religion or a larp even. It's people are larping because the first thing that's happening is you're being invited to take a side. You know, if you're a black person, okay, you need to be on the side of what if you want to get closed, slave gum or whatever. If you're gay, now you need to join the LGBTQ, you're part of this movement. If you're white, you're being replaced. If you're Jewish, they're going to, the concentration camps are about to start up again. You can look and see that every single person on the planet, if you want to attach to a terrifying horrible story, you can find it. In the moment you subscribe to it, you invite it in. Your algorithm will be flooded with things to confirm your worst fears, giving you a sense that this is real crystallizing the distortion. This is all happening in 2D space on your fucking phone, mostly. I'm not saying that there isn't obviously real evil happening in the world right now, but this moment right now, wherever you may be, this moment right now, it's pretty good. This is the kingdom of God. This is what I think Jesus was talking about. The kingdom of God is here right now. This is why the symbol of blindness appears again and again, Saul of Tarsus, Stoning fucking Christians, which to this day is very popular. You know, they're one of the most persecuted, it's one of the most persecuted religions to this day and people get mad at me for saying that, but you can look it up. Oh, Christianity? Yes. Oh, for sure. There's a lot of videos recently that you see it's still happening in a lot of things. Very popular. Can you bring up the Saul of Tarsus story, please? Yeah, Saul of Tarsus. It's a great story. He became Paul. Saul of Tarsus, thank you. Saul of Tarsus was a key observer and approving bystander at the execution of Steve in the first Christian martyr, rather than casting stones himself. Saul guarded the heavy cloaks of the witness as well. They carried out the Stoning well. And then who did he become? Saul of Tarsus, the road to Damascus. He's walking has a vision of Christ. Jesus says, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? Is that a conversion experience? The story of Saul and the original Damascus is a pivotal event in Christian history describing Saul of Tarsus, of Tarsus, dramatic conversion in the Apostle Paul, traveling to Damascus to arrest and persecute Christians who was blinded by a divine light and heard the voice of Jesus. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Now, now, there's a lot of interpretations of this this event. Who knows? But this idea of of blind of Jesus curing the blind man, all this stuff, the blind, the blindness. This, to me, is the situation where we're kind of in a situation of blindness, but an interesting kind of blindness because the modern mind thinks that they're very clear. They think that they're seeing things very clearly. They know a sophisticated person. It should be worried about, you know, there's a list of things you should be worried about. This means you're on the right side and you're sophisticated if you're worried about the right things. Certain things, if you're worried about them, mean you're a fucking piece of shit, racist, bigoted piece of shit. You've got to be worried about the right things. But what do they all have in common? Worried. You need to be freaked out. You need to be worried, scared, that bumper sticker. If you're not angry, you're not listening. Now, that's one of the most satanic bumper stickers I've ever seen in my fucking life. I think the devil himself printed that shit out. It's basically like, if you aren't angry, something's wrong with you. You need to be angry, scared, pissed off, judgmental. Don't talk to those people. Don't look at those people. Don't think those thoughts. Everything about you's fucking wrong. Everything about them's wrong. You got to be in a constant, contorted state of deep anxiety, fear, and worry. Or you are not okay. You are not a good person unless you're scared. There should be a score now that you get to see when you meet someone. How much time have they spent on their phone? What apps have they been on? What's, you know what I'm saying? Because it's kind of not even fair that these algorithms, there was just the algorithm act. What was that? They've been trying to get it passed for years now. And they've had some cases recently where meta has been held liable. There was a girl that had a lot of suicidal thoughts. I believe had an eating disorder. I could be wrong with that. But I was dealing with algorithm accountability act of 2025 focused on automated decision systems in critical areas, jobs, credit, housing, health, education. And this is according to perplexity. But yeah, it's like these algorithms should be held accountable. We are letting these, that's where the devil. It's like we're letting these things control. Because I'll watch stuff. I'll see some clips. And if you look at one, then it's something else comes up and now you're down to rabbit hole, then you see somebody from that group, whatever that is in real life, and you could have an energy towards them. That's right. I mean, they got you thinking about reparations. Yeah. You're thinking about reparations a lot. Why it keeps coming up on my feet your fucking algorithm is showing you this version of reality where there's people all over the place trying to get reparations which there are probably people there are people doing that. Yeah, but probably not as many as you think they are Because your algorithm is just like look what they're doing So then I see like a homeless guy and he's like hey, can I get a buck? I'm like, oh, okay. Oh reparations Yeah, and that's just because of the your get your you're right. You're contaminating yourself. We all have I have it to everyone Everyone has it, but that's a thing. Are we and is there enough space to rise of is there enough space to rise above it? I but I think here's the thing we have to believe that there is an Invisional possibility that where there is otherwise there isn't so that's one thing Definitely is but to even just to fake AI stuff just to make these little software softening the conversation. Yeah, let's soften it up What's a fake AI story? Oh, did you see what was one brain? I think I put it on the list of say it's in my it's in my um Oh, yeah, there was this girl kale. Oh, yeah, Kaley. This is the lawsuit. She had she She argued that features like infinite scrolling auto play algorithm Recommendations and beauty filters were engineered to make users engage compulsively True what breaks my heart sometimes though, or I don't know if it breaks my heart, but it kind of makes me I don't know it makes me mad that I got to sit with some of these guys and they act like there's no crime in their algorithms They act like there's no like like evil goals behind it. And I think it's obvious. Yeah, that anybody can see Where we're headed isn't a great place. So do you think some of these technocrats just don't have a moral compass? Because something must be wrong Oh, dude. I mean, that's a whole that's a deep fucking rabbit. Oh, like you're okay, because you're talking about like the Galapagos Okay, Galapagos islands, right weird creatures there because they're separated from everything else, right? So when we're talking about the Silicon Valley Tech overlords we're talking about a weird kind of Galapagos island where you've got this set group of people who've been there for a while Who have been engineering the technology that is now being used for mass surveillance for blowing up Estinians for fucking exploding parts of the world and for hypnotizing children Into like being glued to the fucking technology, right? And so you're looking at like essentially a warlock scale These are the wizards of the world. They are summoning spirits via AI a lot of them were into the occult You can look that shit up and regardless I think there's public records of some of them is saying that they use BF Skinner the behaviorists Work and he was the guy who could make like pigeons tap dance and shit They coded that into the algorithm the same stuff they use for slot machines and stuff and Vegas, right? So these are wizards illusionists. So dude, it's like do they know what they're doing? Yes, they were they're they're making addictive Technologies can they say that's what they were doing hell no Do you think it's a unified goal or do you think they all does happen to each have these things going on? And that's where we are dude. I think that and I'll come on I want to come on y'all show move good on this rabbit. I love to I listen man I think we're gonna get into some softer stuff. That's what I do know. Uh-huh before you get in the soft stuff I do know this Zuckerberg apparently Doesn't let his kids on the fucking computer apparently a lot of these tech people keep their kids off social media I think I asked him about that didn't I what did he say where I think I said do you do your kids use social media? Regardless, they have strict fucking guardrails for their kids using social fucking media Yeah, and that is is interesting to me. It's like if this shit's so okay. What's going on? Yeah, I think I let's check and see I'm gonna I'll find out in just a second. I think we asked him about that But yeah, this was this was one thing I was saying about this like I remember watching this right I Think this was last year a little bit, but this is called brain bridge right play this clip. Oh my gosh This is going to blow your mind a startup company called brain bridge announced today that they believe that they will be able to successfully perform a head transplant surgery in the next eight years the way that this would work is you would take a Person with a perfectly healthy and active brain, but their body has cancer or paralysis and Transplanet to a brain dead donor body What's crazy is that they said that by doing this the person that's receiving the new body would still be able to Maintain their memories cognitive abilities and consciousness. They say that the brain could last several hundred years If it had a good working body and that that might be a potential in the future But that this would also give people with different ailments a second chance. Wow. I mean, but this came out and I remember a Guy sent it to me. I'm not gonna say who it was, but like kind of like a certain type of person. Yeah, send it to me. Yeah from Birmingham or whatever and he's like, man, this is scary, you know, and I'm like, that ain't real. That's not real man You know, I'm saying but it's stuff like this that we think like you know, and then you probably have like Like spouses like a woman. She's like, oh, you're six more, you know, six more birthday cakes and because it said like six years It'll be happening, right? Yeah six more birthday cakes and my you know, I'm gonna have Denzel Washington in my kitchen or whatever I'm gonna have you know I was just gonna look like the baby or whatever you're gonna have like a 75 year old guy with like a body that like looks like a fucking California raisin and the baby's head like it's just gonna so but that's that's AI stuff You know, that's the things that people believe you know real. I've been what that you know what AI has been showing me a Lot of fake honey badger content videos like nature videos looks real like honey badgers like fighting Elephants and horses a lot of AI videos of like God, what are those creatures that defend themselves with shit you sure is it you talking about those David Attenborough fight night videos Well, yeah, but people are now generating very good AI video of like honey badgers fighting shit And I was watching them for a while before I realized that's not real like because I love honey badgers It's a it's a different subject altogether, but A lot of these are fake as fuck or the hippos spin in their tails and shitting off You know, they yeah doing that the blast and tigers away and stuff that's a lot of those are fake are they really I mean It's insidious. It's at that level too. It's not just head trans like elephant shits on birthday party or whatever Look go on Instagram and look up like hippo defending itself, and I'm pretty sure a lot of these are AI I don't want it to be AI. I want it to be real, but if you look up any hippo It's a whole genre now if hippo is shitting on various predators. Yeah, if you guys can bring some of those up We'll get right back to them Dude, oh, yeah, I saw this thing of the day hot air balloons are you being used for sex trafficking and that was an AI thing That's so and that was an AI thing dude. It's so so now it's like when you take one of the most beautiful The like people are watching a hot air balloon race and there's some grandmother being like, you know There's a none you're you know, or some kid bounding gagged in the basket of that balloon getting shipped off to some fucked up island That's so create everything beautiful. You know brothels on the moon Kids being transported in hot air balloons. They're ruining everything But then they'll start to but then also what'll happen then is this is then this this piece starts to happen They take a fake story like that right like the kids being sex traffic, you know, like yeah in hot air balloons, which is crazy Yeah, like like for how many people can even fit in a hundred balloon probably six to eight lot of kids That's true probably four to ten. I don't know. I think yeah, you get 20 in there. I don't want to know we could talk out Yeah, we're joking, but dude. We are joking. Yeah, Jesus Christ We're joking, but then here's what happens is they put the story out right yeah, then they book Then book there becomes this lobbying towards the government like now somebody's lobbying for we need to train officers We need specifically trained officers who know how to fly hot air balloons so that they can be lookouts for this thing And it becomes one of those Somali welfare things where it's just a money laundering thing But it's all based off of well, let's put the story out first create the fear create the worry Then let's find this other big financial solution that we and do all the training and all the bullshit Yeah, so we have a something to invoice the American government or any government for and then the people our tax money Just goes to another thing now we have 700 you know trained like hot air balloon surveillance technology No, I'm sorry. I don't think you realize what you just did, but you have come up with like an incredible series on like NBC hot air balloon like cop Chasing sex predators through the skies. Oh, dude. That's an incredible show. Thank you Like that would be really like really fun to watch dude imagine you're ducking down in your basket Yeah You get a new partner. You do that heat thing you turn it up Dude, I would watch that all day long. That's an incredible idea But yeah, you're right it creates a chain reaction and essentially just shit tons of money gets wasted on something Fabricated right by like a couple of like teenagers in Morocco. Yeah, and you don't or wherever I don't know why you said you know, but then they honor him at a football game It's like and there's Harold Arthur the third. He did 17 years in the hot air balloon surveillance squad Let's give him a round of applause. Oh, damn yeah, man. It's you're right and dude, but they used to have I remember they had this girl in our school And her dad and his friend I guess they were kind of gay gay man or whatever. And they would, they were hot air balloon guys, but they would go up and kind of kiss whatever, like they would like, whatever meet up in this, like not meet up, I guess meet up in the sky or whatever. You know? - And how? - Or just like locked or, you know, tie their balloons off to each other. - How does that, that wouldn't the, like it's like wouldn't the balloons themselves bump into each other? - I think there's ways you can do that. - 'Cause that is like if you're gonna like create sort of a spectrum of gay. - What's to hide? They were scared to get seen around town. So you level up. - Like making out with another dude in a separate hot air balloon is, that's, that's gay. - It's brave gays though. - It's brave. - Pound. - Brave gays, how was that in a show? - That's the name of the show. - That's it, they're gay hot air balloon cops. This is the next broke back mountain. - This is dude. Do we have a beat of it here? Did he say anything? - I think that's a big part of it. I try to, it's important to me that the kids get that too. And the kids are very active. - Do your kids have a lot of like screen time, like how much screen time do you allow your kids? - Yeah, it's different for the different ones. We don't just like let them do whatever, but I actually like want them to be fluent with this stuff and that kind of like we talked about earlier. I want them to learn how to code, how to use technology. I think it's important. - But he's not saying he wants them to use it. He's saying he wants them to know how to code and use technology. - I wanted them to be able to create the mind traps that I've created. I want them to be able to build manipulative, seductive technologies so that they can lure other children into my trap that will inevitably control the entire planet. But I would never show them the fucking hypnotic tackle. I mean, dude. It's giving that, dude, a lot. Is there any more tutors that's it? - Okay, it's a long answer to a simple question. He could just be like, yeah, I put them on it all the time. - There's a lot of socialization. - They have their own accounts. - It happens online at this point, like people need to get used to the norms and stuff around that. I mean, they're still too young to be using social media, but they have messenger kids. We make it so that they can video chat and chat with their friends and we'll obviously monitor to make sure that they're just connecting with the people who we think that they should. But like, I think it's actually good. I think people need to kind of grow up. I don't need to, it's strong. But I think it's good if you have an engaged parent and as a child you learn up, you kind of grow up learning how to use a bunch of this stuff. So I think that's all good. I want the kids to the extent that they're interested in it to learn how to code, learn how to create stuff, whether it's in horizon or VR tools or they play Roblox and Minecraft. - Roblox. Did he just say fucking play Roblox? Look up Roblox, like look up Roblox, pedophilia. - Oh, is that where they're doing it now? - Dude. - Dude, this is like the new rest areas. Remember rest areas? - Look at Roblox, yes. Roblox is currently the subject of heavy scrutiny, including investigation lawsuits from US state attorneys, local governments and reports, highlighting that predators exploit its massive demographic of young users for grooming and sexual exploitation. - Yeah. - Don't put your fucking kids on Roblox. Or like, man, I'm telling you, like people need to understand that, dude, do you remember, like, did you ever like dig around for your dad's porn? - I remember digging in a hole. Somebody said there was porn somewhere, like not far from us and we dug. Dude, we dug as kids. We probably dug fucking 11 feet into the dirt. Dude, we didn't find-- - A pirate buried his porn out there. That's what Black Pierce was born in it. - Dude, you just remembered the-- - We did find like a CPAP machine though. But go on, dude. - My point is, we all know that kids, when they know, like, just based on like, the experience of anybody grew up in the 80s, at least, or the 90s, you would find your dad's porn. - Yeah. - He could put that shit, like, in a sewer. He could put that stuff, and get like high-- - He could keep it under his hat. - You would get it. So the idea that Zuckerberg's throwing out there, which is like, you can monitor your kids. Number one, dude, are you fucking getting a lot of people, don't have time to do that. And they don't understand this tech. It could be really dangerous for children. They don't have time to monitor. Number two, the fact that he's recommending Roblox, which is you just pulled up, is currently being investigated right now. Because, dude, he just told everyone watching your show. He's like, put your kids on Roblox. Like, you know how fucked up that is? I don't think he intended to do that. - No, well, it was a past episode. It was probably one years ago. But still, I think if, I don't know, do they know that pedophiles is going on on there? Like, they have to know what's going on, dude. And for years, there wasn't even a blockage. I don't think between adults and kids messaging each other, which would be the first fucking thing. So, pardon me, starts to question, do some of these tech lords, do they want pedophilia to be a thing that exists in our universe? - I mean, let me answer that question. I, this is the deal. If you're making-- - We need to ask a kid. - If you're making a, a tech, a plow. Like, how much is money worth? In other words, let's just say, you Theo Vaughn, invented an app, and you found out that somehow, children were being abused through your app. You know what you do? - Shut it down. - Shut it, the fuck down. - And apologize. - On that date, and reparations. Give them that-- - That's your reparations. - That's what you do. You don't keep something going that allows children to be abused. The question is, how much, how much is your mansion worth to you? - Well, here's the thing, here's the thing Duncan, I agree with you. But people keep saying it's about money if you want. It's not about money anymore. It couldn't be about money. If you have a lot of money, it's not about money anymore. It becomes about the next currency. So other currencies are power. And then some of the currencies, it's like, you get to be the king, and then the king turns into a, I think after king is a devil. - Yeah. I think it's right on the other side of being a king is it being a devil. Because there's, you know what I'm saying? It's like everything is just a circle. So if you're a king, then right after it is devil. - Yeah, I mean, you just have to deal with the fact that the technology you create is being used to distribute child pornography in its hurting children. And then whether, the rest of your life should be spent stopping that from happening. Not getting taken to court to make that happen. You should just stop it because-- - Makes me question these guys a lot, dude. - Well, you know, human sacrifice, especially the sacrifice of children is an age old practice. And just because like the energy is being extracted from children using a brand new technology doesn't change the fact that this technology is harming children. - And we're not saying that Facebook is doing that, but we're just saying that Roblox has accusations about that and that it's obvious that. - I mean, you can look, I mean, again, there have been probably instances of adults commandeering children's sexually on Facebook. - Obviously, I can't say with the authority of some of the people doing the investigations, whether or what's happening, but I will say that if you don't think that social media in online games is being used by predators to fuck with your kids, you are a dipshit. You're out of your mind, what are you fucking doing? And also, might I just add, and I know we're supposed to light things up when you're posting pictures of your fucking kids in bathing suits. - In bathing suits are no shirt. - And you look and you can look at who's favoriting those pictures. If 60% of those are like dudes in their 40s. - Yeah. - What are you doing? What are you doing? - Well, that's when you start to realize that we've like, there's this vortex that you start to get manipulated by. - Yes. - And that we're being manipulated. It's like watching a belly dance or dance. And next thing you do, you give it all your money. And after you give it all your money, you'll give it your kids, you'll give it your organs, you'll give it your offspring, you'll give it whatever it is. And you don't even notice you're giving anymore. You're not even getting anything out of it anymore. You were just tricked into giving everything all the way. - That's right, too. You set it, praise the Lord. Throw your fucking phones in a, oh yeah, this is great. Let's watch this. This is a light and things up. It's hippo shitting on animals. - Oh yeah. - I mean, we all, did we all, like if we didn't. - Ooh, it's, no, I don't think that's right. - And now this end look, and they'll probably, they'll accuse the animal of doing blackface or whatever. - It's AI though, right? That's not real. - I don't know, but this is the kind of stuff that breaks my heart. - 'Cause he's poses, like he sits like he wanted to get shit on. Like it's not real, right? He breaks your heart. - It looks real, he's pissed. And that cheat is pregnant, bro. He's probably like, I know where to get some lunch and he's full of that old. - It's gotta be fake. - And this is the whole genre of hippo shitting on jaguars. - Hey bro, don't come on my back and tell me it's raining, bro. - But why did he sit there? Like why it's like, he-- - Because it's the old, hey, let's give you some lunch. I'm a shit on your tray. Okay, that's the old thing, bro. - That old class. - What else do we have? What other AI things are out there? There's some other AI things that were fake or were there other AI things in the news? Or what else can we talk about? Is there something else on your mind you wanna talk about? on my mind right now. Yeah, man. - Do you feel hope as a parent? That's a question. Is it okay if I ask you that? Do you feel hope as a parent? Knowing, seeing a lot of these open vortexes of the devil that are operating around us and how we are being like summoned to dance for them like the brooms in Fantasia. But do you, and none of this is accusatory. Like, I have the same stuff. I'm like, you know, I try to battle it and it's probably easier because I have less responsibilities than you do as a parent. But it's like, we're all fighting this thing, you know? - Yeah, I will never stop loving existence. And I have, I know that people are good. In Buddhism it's called fundamental goodness that underneath the fear is goodness. And when you're around a baby, when you're around your kids, you get to see that, you get to see a brand new human before the windshield gets covered in splattered fear bugs that begin to define their personality. And as a parent, you can't keep those bugs from splattering on the windshield. That's gonna happen. But you also can maybe, you can at least help them understand that love is eternal, that love is eternal, that we're embraced by the universe, that benevolence, kindness, all the things that are taught in Christianity and many of the world religions, these ways of being will are not affected by technology, by AI, by all of the things that inevitably are coming down the line. This way, the actual term for Hinduism, I've heard is called sonotendorm. It means the eternal way or the eternal path. This path, it doesn't fucking matter if there's cyborgs walking down the path. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. And I think that's the most important thing to remember is that this, what we were today we're calling the Satan. Satan is depends on us building up that energy. Making it big, scary. This is described as like it's the monster under the bed. It's darkness. Darkness is all you have to do. It's flip on the light. - Amen. - Gone, instantly gone. And so the more I think we focus on that darkness and all of its complexity and all of its seeming sophistication and all of its tricks and deviousness and deception, the more powerful it becomes. The moment you just turn into the present moment and your own heart and the people you love, it's like a light turns on. - Well, I think we need astronauts too. Sometimes they go into the darkness, man. We need astronauts to go in there and find the switches too. I think sometimes we need that. I think sometimes it's like we, it does feel sometimes like we are too, like there's like, you know, a lot of times in Christianity they talk about acceptance a lot and acceptance and acceptance and a lot of religions they talk about acceptance. - Surrender. - Yes. And it's like you can do that in some ways. But also part of you is like, but when do you like really stand, you know what I'm saying? When do we stand up? 'Cause we're creatures with legs, you know? When do we stand up and not just accept everything and maybe that's the phase that we're in now? And then part of me, like, I was talking about my friend Curtis the other day and like we talk about religion a lot and things like that and he was saying that it doesn't really matter if you win here in the world, right? If the world wins, if we win as a society here, it matters in the afterlife, in the next realm. And like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is just a practice ground for your spirit like to see how you operate a spirit. It's almost like when you did like school driving or whatever. And it was something I wasn't going to, obviously a pedophile usually who would get to teach how to drive 'cause they wouldn't let him coach and why they took away his whistle. And so he's fucking sitting there, just squeezing your thigh. - That's horrible. - But dude, he's in there squeezing your thigh. He's like, if I squeeze your left thigh, it means turn left of a squeeze your right. - Oh God, you're right. - And I'm like, why the fuck dude? Why are you touching me, dude? So I was just going like in circles. Do this motherfucker just massage in here, whatever. - He just fucks me up, man. - But it's just like, yeah. But it's like, or do you think it, man? 'Cause sometimes I care too much. I feel like if we win here as a people, as opposed to like, if my, like, as opposed to like best curing the meat of my soul for the next, like refrigerator, her meal, or Charcuterie Board of Existence, that makes sense. - Charcuterie Board of Existence, it's very poetic. I know what you mean. I just think, you know, the, the, the move is, you look at this thing and now you're worrying about, literally, all of humanity. How do I fix all of humanity? It's, that's a very anxious, - Right, it's an anxious place. - Instead of, it's not fair to you. It's not fair to us. - You can't. It's not your job. And I, I think it, that doesn't mean you should be some kind of impudent pseudo-spiritual person who isn't actively trying to make the world better. But since you're the first part of the world you encounter, how much time are you spending seeing if you can reduce your own fear and anxiety and increase your ability to have compassion and love for the people that you encounter throughout the day? And, you know, if enough of us do that, and that is not easy, by the way. - Right, but it's incremental. You don't do it all on one day, but you can do small things. - And you never know. I mean, it's, I think if we're going to use the Bibles of reference for the conversation, didn't, doesn't the story go and Jesus sent out the disciples? He said, don't worry about what you're going to say. I will speak through you. And if your message is not accepted, leave and knock the dust from your feet, which is really just saying, stay in the present moment. Trust, trust, don't let this darkness trick you into getting all freaked out and angry. 'Cause when you're angry, you'll say angry words. But, you know, this is a terrible way to ruin whatever the fuck I'm saying. Have you ever gotten in an argument on MDMA? Have you ever said a single shitty thing to someone when you're on ecstasy? Now, this is, I think, a way, there might be a way. I'm not saying be on ecstasy all the time, but imagine if somehow you could cultivate that part of yourself that shows up on a nice MDMA tab, if you could cultivate that. And Buddhism, that's called Bodhi Chita. And it's the awakened heart. If you could cultivate that, then whatever came out of your mouth, whatever you did theoretically would be much better than what you do when you're angry, freaked out or you're scared and pissed off. So, maybe the first step is to take more ecstasy, which brings me to a plug for my new business. Trustle MDMA, go to Trustle, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. - Trustle MDMA church wafers, too. That would be the best, dude. - No, I just feel like, you know, the idea is like, as much as you can cultivate compassion in your own heart. - The best thing I notice, too, I just go on a walk with a friend. When Saul was walking, dude, when Saul was walking, was he walking alone out there? - That's a great question, I don't know. - Can you look that up with Saul was on the road to, where's it Damascus? - Damascus. - I'm guessing alone. - No, what a go, this is awesome. - No, Saul was not alone, he was traveling to Damascus according to the biblical account in Acts 9. He was accompanied by a group of traveling and comparing to a rendered speeches by the heavenly light and sound. - He also. - Wow. - So yeah, I think, I don't know, there's nothing on doing more these days, bro. Then honesty is going on a walk with a friend or something like that. - Theo, you seem great. - I do. - You do. - Thanks, man. - Yeah, your energy's really like, you've got like, you've got what's the word, where they call it now? You're aura. I don't know what, my kid the other day, it's so funny when they start saying like, kid insults, and it's a brutal insult. He was talking about somebody's like, their aura's chopped. - Damn. - Have you heard that? - Yeah, someone said that. - Chopped aura. Your aura's not chopped right now, man. - Someone called me chopped on one time. Someone drove by and called me f---ed one month ago. - What? - For no reason. - Where? - Huh? - Where? - 'Cause I had two bags of fucking shopping clothes. - Are you kidding me? - Yeah, I know I bought a lot, but still, yeah, dude, it was just because I think-- - That's crazy. - I think because I was like tying my shoe, but I bent over like at the hip, like at the hip instead of like kind of squatted down. That's f---ed up. That's crazy. - You know, that's crazy, dude. - That's crazy. - 'Cause I like bent like fully, just 'cause like, yeah, I get it, but it's like, god, just say it. Roll the window up and just say it to yourself or whatever. - That's a rare experience for, right? Like, I mean, how often does that happen to you? - I don't know, dude, but I put stuff out in the world that didn't need to be out there, dude. Dude, when we were kids, we would write, this is horrible to say, and this crazy, crazy way to end this conversation. Thank you for the compliments, dude. I am in the space where I'm trying to ask myself a few more questions instead of just take how I feel. I'm like, what's this feeling trying to show me? - Yeah. - You know, like, okay, if I'm angry, why, like, okay, what do I, what do I get by being angry right now? I'm just trying to question a little bit more about what's going on. But, when I, yeah, dude, when we used to do this, it was kind of messed up, we would like, write that, and we might take this out. We used to write the inward on a piece of paper, right? To get it out of our system, and we would put it into a bottle, like a message in a bottle, and then we'd throw 'em in this river, not far from our house. Throw him off his braids. off into this river. And then the craziest part was though, dude. Like a couple of months later, we're over at the park, which is like a mile from where we're throwing them off, dude. We see a dad and his kid find, pick up a fucking, pick up one of these bottles, and the kid opens it up. - It's so sad. - And the dad's like, what does it say? And we're just like, oh bro, we gotta find a better way to dispose of this. - There's a racist dude shipwrecked around here. (laughing) - So dude, we live and learn, man. That's what we do. You can live and learn in one of the best possible ways. Dude, this is honestly the most fun conversation I've probably had in a year and a half. - That means the world to me, Theo. - That's the truth. - I love talking with you, man. It's such a joy. Thanks for having me on the show. - It's the truth, you bet, dude. I'm gonna come on Mystery Boys. I wanna go down a rabbit hole, so we gotta procure a nice one. - Oh yeah. - And you can check out Mystery Boys with the good. We know he works for good, Kurt Metzger. - I would argue saintly. - Okay, saintly. - Saint Metzger, dude. - Saint Metzger. - I'll go for it. - Yeah. - Duncan Trussell, thanks so much bro. - Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it, Theo. - Yeah, man. - Thanks for watching, guys. ♪ Now I'm just falling on the breeze ♪ ♪ And I feel I'm falling like these leaves ♪ ♪ I must be corner stoned ♪ ♪ Oh, but when I reach that ground ♪ ♪ I'll share this piece of my life out ♪ ♪ I can feel it in my bones ♪ ♪ But it's gonna take ♪