#651 - Ella Langley

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All right, you feel that you want a little flow A little brother he ordered it. Yeah, I know he is. I met him on the way and you made the whole family out pretty much Hey, I have I have that guy was fresh off the Press off the damn boat. He seemed like he had some real grit to him We'll talk about him you could say that Yeah He do he do. Yeah, yeah, he do Yeah, I met y'all's granddaddy. He was a real He definitely seemed like he could just Fix a flat tire with his tongue that guy had some grit at him. What I mean not like in a pervert away Just I mean he seemed like he could just hold a car up while somebody fixed a tire. He does love cars Does he really? Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm Tesla's big Tesla guy. He is mm-hmm. He's like one of them future babies or whatever Sure, yeah, like but I mean he's like a guy that I Don't know I pictured him more of like a Garage type of guy maybe I don't know maybe I didn't he said he went to see the grateful dad I think I remember him saying yeah, he's he's my hippie grandpa. Okay. Yeah, so my parents were split into kind of like my mom's You met her too. Oh, yeah, I met your mom. Yeah, you did you did me dude. I met your mom I talked to her for probably almost 20 minutes. I know I came in and you're hanging out with my mom and my grandpa Yes, I don't know what was going on. Maybe it's my real family Yeah, was that jelly roll show? Linies jelly roll was there though. Yeah, and you were on it, too. I walked out there You sang yeah, yeah, you guys did a great job. It was awesome. Yeah, that was cool. She's so good. Yeah, she is just really And she like kind of embraced I think some people get to certain points in their career where they kind of embrace Being this like thing that's bigger than them Mm-hmm, and I think she like she's done that kind of. Yeah, she's so good at giving her all all the time. Yeah, I feel like I have to have Time away like recluse time and if I don't get that then I'm like an insane person even more than usual really That's how I am. Yeah, but Laney dude she just goes and goes and goes like even after the CMA Awards. We went to her bar afterwards. Here she is in her last outfit or camo outfit, you know, like the Kate the bad-ass thing She had on I haven't seen that bring up that camera. She's in a damn camo Kate. Yeah, it was really good I loved that outfit, but she's then she's in there shaking everyone's hand, you know, meeting everyone She's just hosted the awards by herself and running around and yes, you can't yes, she just goes. Yeah She looks like a nice Beautiful duck blind. I feel like Yeah, I mean, I bet a lot of fells would show up to want a hunt from that I think But anyway, she's also married. I think but anyway. Sorry. What are we talking about almost? Um Okay, let me think about where we should start from. Sorry I'm trying to get you grow up in church. I Did I don't think it was like the best church or whatever the look on what the nomination it was like six I think maybe six baptists or something. I'm not even sure it was like six baptists. It was like one of the It was it not it was like it was yeah It was pretty it was wild. Yeah, now I grew up with southern baptists. You did? Yeah. Oh god So really really small church it started in a barn Um the house that I also grew up in my dad grew up in and there was an old barn across the street And it started in hay bells on that barn then they moved it to a church and I mean every sunday and Wednesday Till I was 18 years old. Yeah, was it a big part of your social life too? Yeah, yeah I was homeschooled for some years. So pretty much all we did was go to church No, and what stayed were you homeschooled in Alabama? Yeah south Alabama. Oh, it's Montgomery That's one place. I don't know if I would accept homeschooling in to be honest over all we didn't do any much school, you know Yeah, just played outside. Oh, yeah, but that's sometimes the best school. It really was oh Like my imagination got to live longer than most Yeah, that's a good point because you kind of take kids and you put them in like this way It's almost like being a laboratory at a school like you're sitting under the under those lights or whatever Some kids eating paste or whatever and you're supposed to like not say something. Yeah, I got in trouble a lot I went to kindergarten in first grade and I was always in trouble like what was the crime you were guilty of talking Distracting others Well, how great was that in school when you got back on your thing? Distracting others I had like a designated seat in the corner. It was like this little green Metal desk and it was facing the corner. I just like sit over there. Oh, I know Distracting others and what do you think you were distracted? I'm from probably. I don't know anything just talking And were you trying to get people to see you you think or you were just you had something to say? What it was going on nerella Lyingly. I just think that school is boring for me. I did not like that. God. I did not like it at all the whole time naps hated it. What do you mean? I have to sit still We had this lady named Miss Robin. She kind of had air like yours a little bit and she Would uh on nap time at one by Rudy's asleep. She come over and kind of kick me a little bit And she let me go out with her and watch her smoke cigarettes and shit. So that means she's pretty good. Yeah, mine Cool and her husband was apparently He had some domestic charges or whatever, but anyway, she let me spend time with her and watch her smoke We needed it. Yeah, like you're a confidant at a young age. Yeah, did I was just sitting there? That makes sense Just leaning on this tire of this car. Life lessons is lady. You know, you're like, well, you know what I would do Yeah, Carla's a piece of shit You know, just helping her out, but she would smoke and she had this kind of like This kind of country you know also known as that when they get that feathered real country feathered look, you know When it has a lot of a lot of feathers. Yeah, a lot of feathers going on just a damn mallard of a woman, you know Yeah, but I remember that that was a good time. I remember But yeah, when you got distracting others was just like gosh. Yeah And you were guilty of it too. Yeah. Yeah. I had a bunch of eye surgeries when I when I was young And so like for the muscles in my eyes And what happened you had bad eye muscles Yeah, sometimes I just be a little cross-eyed Oh god, you know, well, yeah, and you were in the choir too was you just that cross I grow to singing in the choir everywhere I was yeah, everyone's singing my heart out But then I had some surgeries and then teachers like she just does not pay attention in here. So Home schooled until sixth grade and then seventh grade went back to the same high school my dad went to Graduated with 32 kids But how could you pay attention if your eyes weren't even team like Dutties or whatever now the doctor describe it to me. I just had another one like to Maybe three years ago And it's kind of brutal honestly like they have to take your eyeballs out your lines. I swear it So I got it in there. It's crazy. And they go inside. Yeah, get in there. What's it called? I don't know Damn, I just called it I surgeries Yes, yeah Yeah, that's fair But she described it to me like horse and carriage, you know, when you have two horses and One can't be going this way and one can't be going this way. I was not gonna work, you know So they got to learn to work together and mine just Never did and now you got them trusty steeds in your face, huh? Yeah, sometimes I slip up That's just good character. You can just go like that. Yeah. Yeah, I just like everybody like this Yeah, get him in line when keep winking a lot. Yeah. Yeah, that's wild Did y'all have a did y'all have school dances at it's well? I guess you've used homeschool But if you got it once you went to your dad's school the same school he went to did you guys have dances at school? Yeah, I was like normal school. Did y'all have like Sadie Hawkins stuff like that was like kind of Southern style or what was the? No, wait it wasn't like a rich private school like this is well Sadie out in the country Was Sadie Hawkins, I guess you didn't buy a t-shirt or some like you said like the girl had asked like a homecoming dance No, the girl had asked the guy and he had to get him a shirt that matched yet if you do matching shirts or whatever You know you didn't have it But if y'all had a dance, what did y'all do with only that many students in the class? I would just dance. I don't know. We just danced around Usually we didn't stay that long we'd go to like a bonfire or something afterwards But was it hard to date like in a school that small was it hard to fault like was it what was the energy like that? I mean you've known all these people your whole life, you know You know what they're driving and their parent drive, I mean, you know how it is. That's why I really, this town and this job is very similar to a small town. You get used to, I kind of like at the fame thing like that now, you know, 'cause when you're in a small town like, I would hear shit about me all the time. I'm like, I did what, you know, and you, I don't know, you just get used to that, so. - Do you think not being from Nashville is better coming into this kind of place? Like, is it, when you get here, does it get so like, is like the music seen for lack of a better term? Is it more like, is it so some type of way if you're from Nashville? Do you think it feels different? - Probably, I mean, aren't from Nashville. I mean, and he's been here the whole time. - But I'm wondering, I guess I was like, does he feel like more of a pressure and more of a responsive? I wonder if, I guess I just wonder if anything is different. Like, if you come from an outside group, does it feel tougher, does it feel easier, maybe, or do you? - I think people probably in your town that you're from look at you a little crazier. You know, I'm like 16 years old, playing in weddings, 18 years old, you know, I went to Auburn for two years, you know, first thing. - You do, yeah. - But I was playing shows the whole time. - Was that your first shows down there? - No, actually my first show was at this tiny little bar called Bezlow's. It's this lake in Alabama, it's called Lake Martin, but there's all these little-- - Dude, I've been on Lake Martin. - Yeah. - Bring up Lake Martin, dude. I can't even believe you said Lake Martin. - Yeah, this is the lake I grew up going to, every summer. It's one of the, actually, the biggest man made lakes, I believe in the, I want to say the world, it's not the world, but I think North America at least. - It could be the world. If you're from Alabama, that is the damn world. - Exactly. - I remember when going to Florida, it would seem like it was like, "God, somebody had went to damn." Like they'd done it. Like if somebody come back from summertime and they'd go on to Florida, they had just done it. They had won the world. - Big time. - Yes. Or they had a shirt on said Florida, hard rock. - One of those-- - Hard rock desk, whatever. - Pain in the sand, whatever they do with the little air gun. - Yeah, that shit. - And the airbrush. - Yeah, Ricky's in Destin, whatever, yeah. - Six sunglasses. - God, and just a fist jumping across the back. - Yeah, everyone has a tan line from the weird little band you have to wear and pulls your hair the whole time. - God. Lake Martin in Alabama is considered the world's largest man-made lake. Wow, upon its completion in 1926, created by the Martin Dam on the Talapusa River, it covers approximately 40,000 to 44,000 acres. You had to grow from when I was a child and we went out there and her family had a lake house out there and we'd go out there, do like what's it called when you're kind of like-- - Jet skis. - Oh, no, no. When you're behind the, you're like on the board and you're like behind the-- - Oh, a knee-boarden. - Yeah, yeah, knee-boarden. - Knee-boarden, leg-boarden, all of it. - Yeah. - Full body-boarden. - Foot-boarden. - Foot-boarden. Yeah, just board, where you just boarden. I mean, you see somebody out there on a fucking piece of plywood out there just managing that bits along the wake. It was beautiful out there. - Yeah, that's what we did all summer. - Yeah, I loved it. And Lake Life, like Lake Life is different. Dude, strange shit happens out there. - Especially Lake Life in the country. - Yeah. - There's some real perverts out there too. I will say that. Some damp perverts or whatever. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Red and eggs everywhere. - Yeah. Easter just happened to you guys. Do y'all do eggs for Easter? - Devil eggs. - Really? - Yeah. - You don't have a painted eggs growing up? - No, yeah, of course we did. - Yeah, dot 'em, painted 'em. - With that little kid or whatever? - Yeah, so fun. - Yeah, dude, that was really nice. - But what do you do with them afterwards? - I don't know. - I think your grandpa would eat 'em or something. A lot of times we would drop 'em at like a senior center or something. 'Cause regular people were not having like hard boiled eggs. That was more like a senior dessert. Kind of a senior delicacy, I think. - Devil eggs are amazing. Do you like 'em? - I've had 'em once or twice, but I haven't really had 'em when I cared, I think. - They had a rule at church that you could only have two devil eggs on your first go. Because people would find 'em from. They really would. We'd have potluck every Wednesday. So like best southern food, you can think of like all these old women in there. Just cobblers and. - And were people gambling at the, did they have that kind of thing too? Sometimes there's like a potluck where they gamble at a church for fun reason. - No, they try not to gamble. That's the thing. - Oh yeah. - It's southern offices, they try. - Dude, the church boss. Yeah, I don't know what was going on with it. I do remember the church boss they had like a, it might have been like seventh day. Seventh Baptist or seventh day Advertis, Advern. But they would put those circus peanuts in wine and the kids could have those like during communion. You know those orange circus peanuts that your grandparents had? They would put those. - Disgusting. - But they're not. If you soak 'em in like a religious wine, they're pretty good when you're a kid, you know? - I've never seen that before. - Yeah, they would have like a wine that you'd get one out of there and that was just for the children. - Did y'all ever go to judgment houses? - No, what was it? - It's like, they do it around Halloween. - Okay. - It's like a haunted house. - Yeah. - Four Christians, I guess. Very scary. Remember our youth group took us. You get in there and it's like this car crash scene and it's pretty much like convincing you that yes, convincing you that like, you could die the second you walk out of here. So you better settle up. - You better get saved. And I had already been saved, but gone through this affected me so bad. That at the end, they were like, "Anyway, if you're not sure," you know, and it said down to talk. It's all like raise my hand, you know? And I sat down with the guy at the table and the booth and we had the whole conversation. I'll never forget coming home. And my dad was laying on the couch watching Titanic. And I said, "Dad, I need to talk to you about something." And I was like, "I got saved again tonight." And he like, "My dad pauses the TV." He's pissed off about something, you know what I mean? He's like, "That's how you know." And he's like, "He said you did what?" I was like, "Dad, I just got so scared of this thing." He's like, "Baby, you not immediately just like when you are kind of a dumbass." 'Cause you know, that's the whole point of being saved. - Did he get saved twice? - Yeah, I was so scared. It was so scary. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But you sound like a little bit of that danger baby, you know? You've always seen like, I mean, I don't know you very well. But to me, you've seen like kind of like that danger baby. You know, it just seemed like a dang, like a hell's angel that got, you know, just took over a damn guitar city, you know? Like it just, you know, it just got, went haywire in a Gibson store, you know? You just seemed like that, like yeah, maybe you needed it two times. - I was maybe fearless, I think. Is what it is. I don't know, I'm not. - You feel a lot. - Yeah. - You feel risky or you feel fearless? - I definitely take a lot of risks. And I do have a lot of fears which is funny that I think that. But I think, I don't know, I don't necessarily view myself as the same as I think everyone views me, which is funny. But yeah, I say fearless would be the word. I don't know, I'm just not afraid to take a chance on something whatever it wants. But if I wanna do it, then I just know like I'm gonna do it. I don't really, even if part of me doesn't want to, like I remember thinking as a kid with this music thing, like, I seem like a lot, I'm just gonna be sure. That's really what we wanna do. And it's like, there's this thing inside of me and that's like if you don't do it, you're gonna hate your life for your whole entire life. And so I was like, okay, but that still seems like a lot. But I just know when I make my mind up, I don't know. - It seems like that. I mean, just from an outsider's perspective, you just seem like you know what's going on, dying it. - I try to act like it. - Yeah, but sometimes that's part of it. - It really is, the whole thing. - Yeah, it's like, sometimes it's like pretending until the rest of you shows up and joins you. It's almost a good thing. - No, I've never lived life before. Not one person has lived life before. You know what I mean, it's my first attempt at life as a human being, you know what I mean, ever in so it's yours and everyone else's and it's funny, just I think people forget that. - Yeah, there's never a lot of credit for that. It's never like-- - It's like, as I first go. - We hold people to a lot of like serious stuff and we're never like, yeah, you know what? Just first time. (laughing) - I did first time, yeah. - Oh, maybe we need to nap. - Yeah, dude. And first of all, if they had naps for adults for everybody, it would all be so nice. - Yeah, but a nap goes one or two ways for me. I either wake up and I'm like, oh, I'm so glad. I got that, or I wake up and I'm hail on earth. - Really? - Mad, upset, my day's kinda real. I don't know. I don't know. I just'm like, gosh, I wish I could go back to sleep. It's one of those things either power through or you don't. - Well, you just sound damn volatile, Ella. - I'm not. - You're not, you sure? (laughing) - I think you're the only one saying that. - I could be true, you might be right. You might be right. Maybe this is that people have a perception of you that's not exact, you know, or that. I mean, nobody's perception of somebody else is, but, or rarely. But yeah, maybe people have that perception of you. Did, whenever you were first doing shows that they ever have some fights at your shows, anything like that, like were you in some real honky tongs? - Yeah, I've played every kind of show you can possibly imagine. - Same thing. (laughing) - Like, I mean, restaurants, weird little wing, sports bar things. - Funeral? - Oh yeah, funerals, so many funerals weddings. I started out with weddings. That was my first gig ever. Who would ever hire a 15 year old to play while you're walking? on the aisle. I don't know. If they're decent maybe or if they're cheap. I don't know. Yeah. Well, 200 bucks maybe. Hey. And I was like, I am rich. Decent and cheap. That'd be my first album. I've ever had one. Um, but I don't know. It was always just but do they have fights any day? Have they ever have a good? You ever see good? All the time. Yeah. I want you to one guy get arrested in Tuscaloosa selling coke right in front of me on the floor and there I am just still playing, you know, no way. Yeah. Random. I played a lot of the four of ammo. Prison I can tell. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. Played. Um, one of my last gigs I played. I fell through the stage like my last cover gigs. I did that for a while. And I did like a finishing act or something. Huh? Was it like a finishing like? No, I just there. The stage was terrible. Oh, you just want some bad wood or something? Yeah. They put a rug over it thinking if she can't see this whole thing, you know. Yeah. But yeah, play pretty much any and everything. And what is this? Oh, that's you right there? Oh, wow. Yeah, it is, I guess. Oh, that's at my family reunion. I think I was like five four or five. Is that only Martin? No, that's in Brantley, Alabama. That's way out in the country. Funny about this is when we are remember my when we pulled up here and my dad was like, we got the family reunion down here at the whale, a buried whale out here. Mm-hmm. And as a kid, I was like a buried whale. Like, why would they bury a whale all the way out here? Yeah. And you know, it was I asked my dad about that. And he said, I was saying well, well, a buried whale out there. Dude, yeah, I remember I used to have to clean out Wishing Wells in our area. They had this thing where they was trying to do like, I guess, make money for the area or some or like a get a tourist thing. And so they had they installed like a lot of Wishing Wells and stuff. And I got a job when summer cleaning them out. So you get down there and have to get down in them. Yeah. I've never seen that happen. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody gets in there. And I had very small kind of lean wrists and everything at the time. And so let me get down in there and you'd bring up all the stuff and like put it on the side. And you got to keep some of the change. But then some of it, you had to give to the city. But you find a lot of people, a lot of just throw a lot of junk down the recyclables. Kind of a lot of to-go orders to go barbecue kind of seem like anyway. You got to keep some of the change. Yeah. You just got to pick out which ones you give. No, they kind of you gave it to them. And then they let you they kind of gave you some back. All right. Well, that's kind of nice. That's a good gig. I liked it. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. And I found a sword in there too. Like a I don't want to say oh, what? Yeah. I found like a I think it was kind of sword. I think it was a dang. I don't want to say like a murder weapon or something. But I think it was a murder weapon sword. I think it was a weapon. It looked like it had been used. He imagined you murder someone and then you throw it at your place to throw it in as a Wishing Wells. Yeah. I think so. What? I wish I hadn't killed him. 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That's betterhelp.com/thio. I've used BetterHelp and and I, you know, hell, we all need help. Did you ever get in a fight at any of your spots or no? Nope. Anybody ever try it from the audience or anything like that? No. A lot of drunks just, you know, spilling their drinks all over the place, bumping into my microphone stand. I've had that happen a lot. Oh, that's the worst. When I hit the end of it, it just pops you right in the mouth. Oh yeah, because you're not really expecting that. Well, there's just so close to the stage and you're playing college bars. Yeah. So a lot of college activity over there. Yeah. And was your family on an Auburn fan growing up then? Yeah. My mom's from Michigan, like I said. So she just kind of never really cared about that stuff. My dad was an Auburn fan, but yeah. That's kind of our football thing. It's Alabama or Auburn. Yeah. There's no NFL team in Alabama. So yeah. And is your folks, your folks are still together? Yeah. Yes, they are. And do you think like what makes you laugh about that? It's been a wild ride. But they haven't given up. Nope. Press your parents. Pretty cool. It is really cool. It's really cool to see how they are now. Because I think there were a lot of years where we're all like, y'all sure are you like each other? You know, yeah. But they did. They really stick stuck it out. God. Was there like a time when your parents were like that they always that they always say like, Oh, well, we knew when this happened that she was going to be. Do they have that kind of thing? You know, we're like, we knew when she, you know, my grandparents and my dad's side pretty much raised me at their house. I lived over there. They, my grandpa could play anything by ear. He would, they were a lot older. My grandma was 45 when she had my dad. Oh, wow. Yeah. But I was like the first girl in the family. And I started to match pitch with her as a baby. And so she figured out I could sing. And she just like singing was her thing. And my grandpa could, like I said, play any instrument by ear. And so at their house, that's all we did. Like you was a little baby bird. Oh, yeah. That's all we did. And they were like, this is what she's going to do. And so they, yeah, that's my grandpa right there. And they just put you out on the wind to sail out there. I sang at church a lot. I learned how to read from singing and animals. But yeah, I mean, all I did. And I really just the whole time, like my whole family, well, just really, this is what she's going to do. They just knew it all time. Was there a scary point for you like when you kind of like got a little bit spooked? I remember whenever I met you. I one thing I remember you saying is that I just knew that this is what I was, this is what I was doing, right? I was so determined. And I've talked to like trade Lewis. I knew you and him are friends. And he, he mentioned that right whenever I ran into him one night, we were watching your show at the knitting come knitting factory. Maybe there's some place I can't remember. Right. I've been the blue bearers threes. I don't know. I'm terrible at remembering these. It was a musical place. And he said she just always been so determined, right? Was there a parto when you like even your own determination came up against like this just feels like it's going to be tougher than I thought her. I don't know if this is the way or it did it never get to that point for you. I think I always knew it was going to be tough. I mean, how many people move to this town in a day to do this job? I don't know. There's just, it's scary all the time because I love it. It's truly a part of who I am like my whole life. I've done it and wanted to do it and thought about it every day like daydreamed every time I'm in the car. I mean hours and hours alone dropping from gigs. Like dreaming about what? Just doing this, literally doing what I'm doing, like playing on stages and writing songs and getting to do this craft for a living, you know. I just feel like not everything always works out for me in my life. And so I like to leave like very little room for air, you know. And so I think like just keeping my head down and definitely my toughest critic, you know, like when I watch something, I'm never like, oh yeah, I crush that. Never, ever, very rarely do I walk off stage and I'm like, I was amazing out there. I'm always just like, dude, I was, what was that shit that I just said? That was so what was the fuck it's wrong with me? Why would I say that? - Well, it must be crazy, 'cause you seem like such a like a loot, like, kind of, like, almost save, you'll say whatever. You just kind of save your-- - I do, that's the thing. - And then to be such a tough critic of that person is, that's a lot of extra stress, it feels like. - Yeah, yeah, I'm getting better at it, for sure. It's weird, when I'm sure you understand this, like looking at yourself through the eyes of others, like no one should know this many thoughts about themselves. Like, when everyone's like, what superpower do you want? I'm never understood when people were like, I want to be able to read minds, like, fuck that. I do not want to know what somebody's thinking. - 'Cause half these people, I wouldn't either, dude, especially if you're at, like, some place in everybody's just a damn pervert or something, you know, and that would be most of it. - Oh, no way, man, no way. - Even if you're at, like, even if you're just at a dang golden corral, no matter where you are, everybody's like, I bet you would read minds, you'd be like, - I don't love the golden corral or our shonies. - Dude, my stepdad, he was in one of the wars. And he would do it after, there we go, to the golden crowd, whatever it was. Like, Chinese, corral, or something, or like, the yellow bin, or whatever it was called. He would sit, he would sit my mom in the car, and then he would go back in and apologize for fighting these, who we thought were like the same ethnicity people when he was in, like, Iwo jeem, or something like that. - He'd go back in and apologize every time. - Yeah, he would go back in and just kind of say, give his peace, you know? And it was like this moment that he kind of had, you know, or, and I think it's probably like that for some people. That's like, they probably went and fought in the war, and then the only people they ever saw from that culture again, was that like, if a small restaurant popped up in their town 40 years later, that's gotta be crazy. - Yeah, they all, I don't know, I can't imagine that. You're very interested in that. One of my favorite things to read about is historical fiction. - Yeah. - You watch every any of those war movies? - Yeah, my dad loves a war movie. Jarhead's, I don't know how many times that's been on in our living room. - Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude, my uncle even has the soundtrack to Jarhead's. I'm like, who has the soundtrack to this shit? - On CD or what? - I think it might be, he said it was Blu-ray. He went like, he went all in on Blu-ray and he lost a lot. But yeah, dude, I like some of those war movies. I think it just makes you feel something, you know? - Yeah, it feels like you're learning a little. It feels like you're learning a little, but also yeah. And it makes you feel something. I like something, I'll say this, if there's a little bit of loss in something, I like that shit. - Yeah, keeps your attention, go. - I like something's got a little bit of loss in it. Some of your music, and probably a decent amount of it, to me, seems like it's like about, kind of like, one in love, or hoping for love, but not, like, kind of being able to make it work, or I'm trying to think what I'm trying to say. - I think you're doing great. It was a good question so far. - They are? - Yeah. - Thanks, dude. Yeah, I think I just get-- - Really good. - Sometimes I get worried or not, and I don't know. I mean, I get nervous. - I was so nervous before I came in here today. - Were you so nervous? Yes. - Why, what do you mean? You're the most confident person there is. - I don't know. You are, you know? - Well, I mean, you got to put on the suit. That's true. And the rest you'll show up? - That's some, I told you I learned, you know, Southern veterans in his small town, he's you learn to put on a face a little bit, you know what I mean? You can't let everyone know everything that's going on all the time, but also it's like, I run out of the ability to do that, so. - We get burned out of it. - Yeah, and I just, that's been something I've had to work really hard on is the mental of this game. And I knew the whole time, that would be the toughest thing for me. - Really? - Yeah. - Well, you can't pin yourself to the way somebody else operates. That's something that I've done over the years. Like, if they can do it, I can do it. I'm not the same person as them, right? And our paths aren't the same. - Yeah. - I mean, I've burned, I've floored it for 200 miles when I had nothing at the time. - Well, I think it's because you are similar in the way where you're like, you kind of fly through life by the seat of your pants, you know what I mean? And it's like, you're just following your gut on what you should do with your life. And instead of like, you know, if you go to school to be a doctor like, you know, you do this many years of school to go and you're gonna do this. And it's like, we have no idea how this gonna, every single day is different. Every single day, something could happen that could change our lives for the best or the worst and you just never know. - Yeah. - And so I think like you learn this skill to, you know, watch others in the way where you learn, you know. And I think in the beginning, it pushed me. I would always like, compare my work ethic to it. Laney was a great one for me, you know. - Yeah. - But I don't know how she's superhuman. - She is. - I don't know how she does what she does. But yeah, I'm different than that, you know, like I have to go be in my house and. - Recharge. - Recharge. - Rest. - Yeah. - Take time. I'm saying, I gotta do. I mean, I'm getting dang IVs, I'm petting animals for peace or whatever. They have this peace. - Yeah, I'll be there again. - You've got a peace pet in place that's out there and you go pet those horses for peace or whatever. - I just got some horses. - Did you? - Yeah. - God. I'm thinking about getting a doberman. It's big, but. - Yeah. - It's nothing like that. - It's great. It came in riding a doberman and it was big enough to do that. Like you found Clifford. What do you think of the doberman this time? - And Ernest is on the other one, dude. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But he's actually on Clifford. - Yeah. - And he has his grill in for sure. There's like a hundred shades of Ernest. That's the craze and there's nobody who has like is such a chameleon, I think, and he manly Ernest. - He's really Ernest. - You know? - What do you call him? - Oh, my question. So I feel like a lot of your songs are about like one and two, like find a love or connect with love, but also like about like wanting independence, you know? Do you feel like you have like commitment issues when it comes to that kind of stuff? Or do you feel like some of your songs stem from that sort of thing? Or like do you find like a like a common like root for some of your purpose in your music? - You know, I think that's the thing that sometimes people think about too much, honestly, where it's like, what is the purpose to everything? What is the what is the finished product? I don't know. I'm only 26. Like. - Yeah. - It's like, I'm just writing about, I'm not going in the room thinking, okay, I need an up tempo song today, and I need it to be perfect for radio, or I need to write this type of acoustic thing, you know, like I'm going in there and just writing songs, like whatever comes out that day comes out, you know, I'm really big on not forcing, not forcing, you know, just if I feel like I'm in there and I'm not having fun, I'm like, why are we doing this? I somehow got to do the job of always wanted to do. No way, I'm not going to let it be fun when we're sitting in here writing these songs, you know? So yeah, I don't know, just sometimes like, I'll have a title that I really want to write or someone in the room will say something and then it's just like, if all of you click on that title, like you got to chase it. So yeah, I mean, and obviously, I mean, maybe in 26 and not married, like, I've been dating, you know, I've been trying to figure that portion of my life out to you, which is complicated when you have pretty much given your everything to this one thing, you know. Oh, yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, I can relate to that. I spend so much, so much time working that, yeah, it's like, this was my first love. I liked to work the most and because work was reliable, it's like, I knew what I got in, what I put into this. I'm going to get out of this one way or the other and I'll know if it's fair or not. I'll know if it's a fair amount because I'll know how much I put in that part of myself I can't lie to. So it's like, I'll know and it's an even, it'll be even. It may not be exactly what I want, but it'll be, it will be fair like that. But you know you gave it your all. Yes. And to me, I know, I know and so I know I will expect a certain return and there's not somebody else there that like when, when it's a human for me, it's like, that's just two. It's like whenever you first learn to ride that bike and you're doing that or whatever, you know what I'm saying? Do you forget that like the, you're like churning the handlebars like this? You think they're the pedals and you just, if this starts happening, you're going down, you're going down. That's the scariest feeling ever. It's the worst. Yeah. Oh, so many scars from asphalt. And then you hit the neighbors gate or whatever and somebody just called you like a queer yell, something like that or something, you know. That's the worst I hate when that and you said, yeah, and it's your dad driving by. It's definitely your dad. That would definitely my dad. And you haven't even seen him like two years and you're like, this is how he shows up. Yeah. But yeah, that's something I think about knowing what you're going to, like what you put in and what you're going to get out. Do you feel like, because now you've kind of hit this level of popularity that's a little bit different? And that's kind of scary, right? Yeah. I mean, it's cool. There's a lot of great things. But that, to me, that feels interesting because you kind of like, you almost can't put it back in the tube in a way. It's like, you know, like you can't like, once you kind of cross over a certain like threshold of like people knowing you, you kind of can't like, you know, your life can change and maybe, you know, people come and go in popularity. But you kind of can't go back to not being someone that wasn't known. I think that's another one of the hardest parts for me and it's, I think it's just people treating you differently. Yeah. and it's weird when somebody comes up and they're just like, it makes sense to me because if I were to see Stevie Nicks in the grocery store, I would be a little like, but it's weird when it's yourself. Someone's coming up to you and they're like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna throw up on your shoes." Whoa, I am so weird, just immediately trying to level myself in a way, but yeah, that's an odd part. But it is cool, I'm getting past the stage of like, what, 'cause it was so in the beginning, so new, it was weird when somebody knew who I was or when I'm sitting at the table, out to eat with friends or family and somebody's like, "Hey, can I get seven selfies with you?" And I'm like, have a half a meatball on my mouth, and I'm like, "Well, that's crazy." - Are you having any war stuff or you just don't even feel like a certain way? - In the bathroom, have you ever had one to ask you? Is someone in the bathroom like, "Bro, no!" No, and then if you say, "No, I've had a girl, "I was making my whole band do this ab workout routine, "wearing p-fitness somewhere around the world." And this girl comes out to me, mid-crunch, she's like, "Can I have a picture?" And then it was in the beginning, and now I would be like, probably not right now, I'll size whatever, you know what I mean, just pick better time, but. - Oh yeah, in the morning, you'll give it all, you'll give abs, you-- - But then I get up to take the picture with her, and she's just like, "No, no, I just wanna take one of you." - You ever get that when they're like, when I take one of you and so forth with you? And you're like, "No, no, no, if I'm sweating this, "you are doing this." - Yeah, so you're just what, some kind of pervert or whatever, or you're just making a time capsule? Or some of you don't say, you're just actually like, "No, I just wanna take one of you." - Yeah, I'm not doing all that. - What's your pose if someone to take one of you, you know? - I'll tell you a funny story, I can't. Oh, I'll tell them no. If somebody's like, "I just wanna take one of you." - Yeah, you're like, "No." - I'm like, "You get over here, you little urch, "and you're getting in this bitch with me." If I had to stand here and look like shit, you do too. - That's awesome. - Yeah, dude, a couple, probably like a year and a half ago, I started to have, like, 'cause we would do meeting grids after every shows and maybe some of this sounds like, kind of woe is me, like, - I'm about to relate. - Popularity talk and I'm not mean in that. I'm grateful that people come out to shows and I've been a couple of years shows and I'm excited to go to more of 'em. I'm excited to come to that one in Tuscaloosa where you and Morgan are playing together and then I know you're your own tour and your new album that's gonna come out. But, yeah, but - Nice. - I couldn't smile anymore. The muscles in my mouth - Oh, yes. - It started doing that fidget thing. - Yes. And then it got to the point where I just didn't even believe it anymore by mouth and just, there was some disconnection between, like, my true feelings and a smile, because these were all, like, kind of put on smiles. And some of 'em are real, but, you know, you're just, like, smile, you know, it is smile cheese, that type of thing. So, I had to start doing this. So in all my - That's why that started? - Yes. So in all my pictures, I was like, I have to make another face. And this on me, like, it looked a little too, like, people are gonna get scared of the kids are gonna kind of be scared a little bit, so. - I think it was kind of nice. - So I'll do, like, you know, like - Just anything. - Yeah, because this just started. - Yeah, that, that. - See? - Yeah. - But just the, the close mouth smile was nice. Well, no, no. That was different. You didn't do it the same that time. - I was trying more time. - Yeah. Well, no. - Kind of close. - Try one more time, but don't squint your lips so much. - All right. - Right, I'm loose, leave 'em loose a little. Start from the side, how you came up. - Okay. - Well, what's happening, nothing much. - Yeah, that right there. - Thank you. - Take a picture of that. Practice. - You're an artist, you're a conductor. - Well, thank you. - She's a conductor. Yeah, I remember the first time I was like, 'cause I didn't know, like, as your popularity really, I guess the first time that I met you, and I remember I said something like, "Man, Laney really does such a great job "of controlling the stage, 'cause I was kind of complimenting "her 'cause she really does." And you were, I can't remember what you said, but it was something like, I don't know if I said like something like. - No, you were like, you should try running, you should try running around the stage like that or something. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - And I was like, first of all, you may have never been to a show, so I, you know. - I know. To show up and be judgmental like that. - Yeah, and then that, yeah. - I think I was just nervous. - I kind of moved around a little bit. Well, I just thought about that moment multiple times, 'cause I'm like, should I move around more? Like, is that it, like, has seen things that I should do, like, you should come to rehearsals and let me know? - I think I was just nervous and I probably didn't know what to say and it was a woman and so I was just trying to say something. And maybe it wasn't, yeah, I just didn't do the best supportive job, probably. - Yeah, it panned out. - But, yeah, I've seen it since and I'm not even going to weigh in anymore. - You're obvious. - No, I really like it. No, I really made me think extra hard about that. I was like, damn, the other thing is I'm lazy on stage. - No, I didn't think lazy. I didn't know, I didn't know either. - A little lazy? - No. I just-- - I can't, she run, I don't know how she does it. She does the whole spin thing. - She does a lot. - I told you, she is super easy. - She does a whole, like, fante, she almost like that. Like, yeah, she does it. - When she does that spin thing, I'll fall down. - And she's 100%. - Just swanging that donkey around. I'm like, what is even going on out here? - Yeah, yeah. - She has got it. - Yeah, that's probably what it is. I ain't got no balance like that, you know what I mean? Evened out, you know? - She's got them ballast tanks on it, you know? - She's like set up. - Oh, she's a pontoon. I'll tell you that. - She's locked in. - Yes, she's locked in. But know what a great person to learn from and be around and even just to watch the things that she does. And just to notice all those things, like how is she able to engage with people so much? You know? I don't know how Jelly Roll did it. Jelly Roll got burned out, though. - Jelly is the same way. - But he got burnt out. - Yeah, I think it happens to everybody. - It'll get you. - Yeah, I mean, no one's actually doing it all. - Yeah, I mean, everyone gets burned out. - Yeah. - Did Um, was there a moment you kind of had to take a step back, you take a vacation? What do you do for that sort of thing? Have you learned to incorporate that into things? 'Cause you're already back out here, you're gonna go on tour again. - Yeah, I'm still figuring it out. I think my team's figuring out a little better how to schedule in the time that's needed. But when you're in this boom moment, it's hard to say no. I mean, you're saying no to stuff that I'm like, I do kind of want to do that. But it's like, I'm thinking to things six months down the road. I'm like, I'll be able to do that. And then I get there and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm dying. Why did I do that? - What am I doing in this lemonade drink? - Yeah, but then I'm like, if I turn it down, sometimes I'm like, come on. You can't, what's wrong with you? Why you can't do that? You're gonna be, some people would kill to be like that. And then I had that whole thing. So last year, it just like I said, I think the mental game for me is definitely the hardest part of this job. Like I can do the gigs, I can do the shows, I can do that and I don't know the burnout, I guess. - Like thinking you can work through it, I'll fight through it, I'll figure it out. - Yeah, and I mean, Lord, we toured pretty much minus a couple of weeks here and there from 2022 to 2025. And I mean, most of that was in a van, and then one bus and we're all packed on there. And it was still like, it just happened so fast. So it's like, we're still doing these things, but these things are happening. And so everyone from the outside is like, man, that's pretty nice. And you're like, well, you know, we're still getting there, we're still doing our baths. - Yeah. And a van, people don't get even enough credit for even being in a damn van. - Somebody asked me another day, they're like, do you miss that? I'm like, hell, no, I don't miss that. - I think people should get a tax credit for being in a damn van, dude. - I see it. - If I see a van pull up any van and somebody gets out of the back of it, I'll start clapping immediately. - Immediately. - I don't care what they're doing. I don't care if they are, you know, very religious and that's, you know, in the side doors, broken or whatever, or they are just a big family. - I always wondered what people thought we were traveling around when they'd see us get out at a gas station and it was just like me, my photographer, Kaylee, and a whole bunch of tattooed guys just crawling out of a van, looking to shovel, smelling like Doritos probably, and whiskey. - Doritos are good at over 50 miles an hour in a day. - Oh yeah, I lived off some gas station food for years. Takedos from the gas station. - They're good. They're good. - In the moment. - Yeah, but some of my problem is if you, I'll get a bag and then I'll go get them in the middle of the night and get more of them. - Yeah, yeah. You never get a crunchy one where it just ruined the whole thing, it's like the. - Uh-oh, the Takedos? - Yeah. - I like them. - Hot dogs. - Oh, hot dogs are good, but they're just, sometimes they don't, they don't honestly tell you how long they've been on that twirler. Out there on the little riverboat thing. - They just put them back out there every so often. - What is that? They put a bunch of hair curlers together and started just grilling the bitches. - And that was what kind of meat is really in there. - There's not meat in there, what are you talking about? Dude, this is a, this ain't no meat. - I have a lady that's like doing on my, my health stuff. You don't think some of the buffalo chicken, you don't think that is. - I bet there ain't a half percent of meat in there, baby. This is meatless. They should just say something warm on the outside of it. But yeah, when you get those hunt brother's pizzas, those little ones. - Oh, the breakfast one? - Fire. - What's that I grew up on? - On hunt brothers? - Yeah. I think it's hunt brothers. Is there an S at the end of it? - Was there more than one? (gasps) There you go, girl, hunt brother. - I've been saying it wrong. I'm gonna hold the hut, brothers. - But that's what it is. That's some kind of Southern stuff. - That's how they say it. - Have you seen the country hoodlums people? Have you seen those Instagram? Pull 'em up, dude, if you can. - I'll put 'em on a page the other day. - The what? - On my links page. This is kind of a place I grew up. I'll show you right here. - Oh, I can't wait to see this. - This is like our street. (indistinct) - What's he doing with, Christy? - I'm out of our, he's seeing it. - I'm just something five times. - About a million fucking places live. I might hear you when he was calling me five minutes later. - What? - Well, I can't hear you. - Well, Christy, he loved glass loves those golf clubs. Glass loved those golf clubs. - This the kind of shit was going on on our street. - No, no, you for real? No. - And you know what he did, probably. - Oh, yo. - He dumped food around, and he about to find out. - Grab it, really grab it, oh my god. - Oh my good, man. - That's the kind of shit we need more of, I think. But yeah, this is just the kind of place. Have you ever seen them country hoodlums? Oh, man. - This is like a whole thing? - They have probably like two or three hundred clips. Now they put up clips every day and it's just them, it's just like people living their lives. - Oh, oh, like it's real life people, it's not like. - And this is the one earned. People always say this guy or him and earn seem like each other. No, go hit that top left one. - Keep him coming. - He just got baptized actually. - Let's do it. - Hey Jean. - And I'll say this, the women or the people they hold it together in this group. - Well, bro. - Usually are. - Yeah. But that's kind of, I feel like that's kind of enough, man. You know about four years ago, I was jogging somewhere. And it was a pretty good area. It was all right. I don't know, yeah, there's some couple halfway houses, but I was going for a jog and I saw a snail out there. And he was trying his best, but you know. They don't even have feet, but they're still going forward. You know, so I picked that snail up and I moved him. I moved him probably 19 inches, brother. Saved him a month of travel. I'd consider that a power move. Just like how hiring Morgan and Morgan is a power move. Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury law firm. They have over 100 offices nationwide and more than 1000 lawyers with over $30 billion recovered for over 500,000 clients. 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By the time you got the bitches to the car, they was more of a, they looked, they was starting to give out a little. Did you go to Ah-Hop? We went to Ah-Hop, but-- Waffle House. We went to Waffle House. Yeah, dude, at our Waffle House, they had like, it was like, our town was like at the end of like the longest bridge in the world for a while anyway, and then they built a death for them, but then that one got toured down. And so we were back. Anyway, they had a, they had a, so the people that would get DUIs on there at night or DWIs at night, the police officers would just drop them off at the Waffle House, they wouldn't arrest them, they'd just take them down there and drop them off. Yeah, it was really cool. I'm just like, hey, stay here and so we're up. So when you use the kids you're running around, you could just pop in there and just hang, you'd be hanging out with the drunks and eating with all these cool drunks and shit. I think that's a lot of Waffle House's late at night. Yeah. Ars was too. It's kind of like a little mini rehab. Somebody's smoking to stay outside one of the cooks, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Or two, the best is the white guy that can't even blink his eyes. So he's so deep up and he's just fucking making eggs, boy. So many, so many things. Oh, he'll just rip an omelette out of a chicken's ass. That dude's ready. And they're all yelling at him. Yes. The best of the fights in there when they start fighting them. It's so closed environment in there. When they do the fights, I don't like being in the cage. They do the fight. So you've seen them. Yeah, it's like, I don't like being in the cage. I don't want to be outside of the cage. They like it. Well, that's all you should on this out of the bar. And they're on that side. Oh, that's yeah. Oh, you mean the employees fight? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't like that. I just ran ones. I like to go to Waffle House to watch fights. Yeah. Well, dude, the one in in Baton Rouge used to do a look up Valentine's Day, Waffle House Baton Rouge. They did a special thing. Did they do it? Are other ones you know about? Yeah. Hi. The decorations. Yeah. They were decorated and you could make a reservation. Yes. That is romantic. I would really like that. Waffle House for Valentine's Day, 2026, romantic and affordable. Let me read up on that a touch because I know my sister's fiancee took her to this. Let's be honest on every Valentine's Day needs candles, tuxedos and stress. Many couples now choose Waffle House for Valentine's Day because it feels real, relaxed, and easy on the wallet. If you've been wondering whether it's actually worth trying, you're not alone. Let's walk through what experience is like and how to make it special. I like that. Heart shaped hash browns. You can you know they have that? Staking eggs with extra sides to share. I think I've been a Waffle House on New Year's Day for the past like five years. Oh, God. That'd be even six. Yeah. That's beautiful. Like a recurring partner system. Chocolate past slices and strawberry milkshakes served as a simple date night drink. A steak from a Waffle House. Hell yeah. Just doing it up. Dude, I met a woman off the internet once and she was from another country. She'd never been to a Waffle House and I took her to one and she loved it. That's one of my red flags. If guys like, let's go to Waffle House early in the morning and he's like, no. He says no. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. A lot of these pancakes these days are too hot. They're too fluffy and fat for me. I like that bitch. Like it's like somebody already tried to eat it and it's at Hill. No. I like that thing tough. I like that. What does that look like? Just a pancake. I like that. Yeah. Flat kind of burnt. I don't like that. Big fluffy. It looks like part of a piece of like an actual part of a layer of cake. I think that's a flip. I think that's a flapjack. Yeah. It could be. What is a flapjack? Bring it up. Because you have people wandering around. I don't know. People are eating hot cake. What is the difference between pancake and flapjack? People are eating all of them. I don't know. A British flapjack is a simple chewy and only baked bar. Maybe I'm melting butter. No. I love it. I'll burn you down. Golf clubs. If you pull that shit up again. It's not that bar thing. No. It's not. It is a. I like that. Now, some people came out with something. Here we go. A flapjack is a baked oat bar. This isn't it, man. Yeah. I think it is the oat bar. Well, man, I've been getting something else. I call it a flapjack. I like that thing. It's real. Just kind of a little more flimsy kind of. It looks like it'll fucking slap you. I asked if you walking by. You know what I'm talking about? It would make the sound. Yeah. Finally, your brother made a sound. So he's having a good time. And I'll tell you something. I don't love a ton of syrup. I like a fair amount. But I don't like too much. I love it. You do. Do you like condiments and stuff like that? Are you a condiment person? Saus. Yeah. Anything. I love it. You ever had that zit zaki sauce? Bring it up. Yeah. You've had it? The zaki sauce? No, zit zaki. Bring it up. No, no. Zaki. I've never heard of that yet. Zit. Taziki. Don't even fucking tell me that's how you all smell. This is it. This is it. What did you just say? Zachariah saw? I said, I said, Levithians 413. That's what I said. I said, Copernicus 126. Yeah. I've had that sauce before. Say it again. Zit zaki. Zit zaki. I want that zaki baby. Yeah. People love that zaki. Now, what I will say is this. I do like it. How do you prefer it? Is that zaki? Yeah. Just straight up in the little. With that little bread danger. Oh, I'll take it with a pea to use these. I'll have it, but I'll have a. I mean, I would never take them one and drink them one or whatever. Like my sister used to steal all those little coffee creamers from the frickin' place. My step that would take us and she would drink them in her bed at night. All those little. Did the little one? Yeah. The hazelnut would. That cannot do that. That's sleepy little bit. I cannot do it in the first gut. Maybe a little bit, but can finish off six of those. And wonder why she's having nightmares, 'cause you're drinking damn stolen milk, okay? - I don't understand how those stay good out for so long. I don't ever understand. And why can condom and stay on the tables at restaurants for so long, but they can at the house? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I got a lot of questions. - But no, they used to put them, they used to put the creamers on a thing of ice. In some places that I think still have a- - They still do, yeah. - But some of them, those hazelnut ones, those are bad for you. - They'll just give it to you in a coffee mug. - That's hard to do. - That's hard to do. - Yeah. - It was like polymer in a coffee mug and a tea. - Oh yeah, somebody who was a stack 'em in like that, but my sister would have six or 11 of them bitches in there complaining she's got an upset stomach bitch. Of course you do. - She's probably gonna have the upset stomach for the rest of her life, do that. - And she already had a damn liver transplant. You ain't getting nothing else. Mom got her that when we were kids. - When what'd you get? - I didn't get shit, dude. I don't remember, I got roller skates ever way too big for me. - What were you like? What did you do? - Me, I was pretty good, I guess. I don't know, I was kind of a- I like to do my own thing. I just like to hitchhike and just have angry thoughts. I think a lot of the kids, yeah. (laughing) - What did you do, do you like play sports, or? - Yeah, I play basketball, what did I like to do? I like to be on my bike when I was a kid. My dad was super old, so we were always like messing with him and shit. My dad was like, my dad was 71. I was born to, he was an old guy. Yeah, he was old. And my brother used to come in the room. I've told this before, my brother would come in the room and he'd be like, "Dad's dead." And I'd be like, "What?" (laughing) He'd be like, "Yup, go in there." - Go in there. - He's dead and I'd go in there and he wouldn't be dead. - Yeah, how many times did that happen? - Oh, well then this is how we started to flip after a while 'cause he'd be like, "Dad's dead." And I'd be like, "He frickin' better be dead." - Or you're dead. - Or I'ma whip your ass, yeah. So it got to the point where you like hope, like if dad's alive, somebody's gettin' their ass beat. So which is a crazy concept, huh? - If you have to go in there and check one more time. - Yeah, when your dad is barely alive, so. - He should go in there kind of pissed off like this. - There's three pictures of me look at the top, look, top four actually are on me. Zoom in on all of those. God, that looks good. That one's me? - No, it ain't. - Yup. - No, it's not. - Well, is it really? - We had some tough years, yeah. I mean, obviously bring that kid back up. - Dude, dude, that is not you. - We had some damn tough. - Just goin' on with that little thing on the side. - Oh, honey, that's a fade girl. That's a one into a 19, I mean, you ever seen that cut? - That's crazy. - It's like a bowl cut with like a weird shaped bowl. - That's a Christian cut right there. - Yeah. - Who cut your hair growing up, Ella Langley? - Um, all kinds of people. I have a bad tendency to cut my own hair. - Yup. - Yeah. - I like that bass. There's somethin' about it. Why do you do that, and why have you enjoyed that? - I don't know, 'cause it doesn't always go, most of the time it goes bad. That's how I got bangs in the first place. I stopped, I was wearing a cowboy hat for a while. And then I took it off, 'cause it was windy one show, and it was pissing me off, and I decided to take it off, and I liked how my bangs were kinda around my face. And like 20 minutes before I walked out on stage, I decided to cut my fringe a little bit, and it was so bad, there was like one piece right here. And I was shooting the cover art for my first record that next week, and Kaylee was like, "Hey, Jew." - So I had to get, I just told her to full send it with the bangs. - Hmm. - Yup. - Yeah, you're in. I don't think I can ever change it. - Yeah, you love it that much, huh? - It changed my life a little bit. - Really? - Yeah, I would say. I mean, I don't know, the bang thing is like-- - I think it's the music. - Well, yeah. - But yeah, I mean-- - Well, maybe a little bit the music, but mainly the bangs. - The bangs are nice. You know what's funny is, there's a, I think there's, there's a, like a, what's it called, like a poster board in the air or whatever? I don't know what your referencing right now looks crazy. - Billboard. - There's like a billboard over on Hillsboro Pike, and I thought it was you on it. - I think I know what board you're talking about. - Dude, here's a funny thing. I'd go buy it sometimes, and I'd always just rattle off something or sing a couple of your lyrics to it, and then somebody told me-- - It's just you. - Somebody told me it's not you. - It's not. I, but I know what you're talking about, and what do you mean you'd sing a couple of lyrics to it? - I would just rattle off something. You know, I was like, all of a-- - Do you like what's up? - Yeah, there's Ella just seeing how she's doing. Oh, she's still high and mighty up on that billboard up there with the, and I think it's for a earring company, I say with her fancy earrings or whatever. Big earrings, too. I mean, this lady had damn bird cages hanging off her head over there. - Nope, what mean? - It wasn't you though. - Wish it was. - God, yeah. Yada, I've gotten to spend more time with you. So me too, it would have been nice, I think. At school, sometimes we ask about Valentine's Day, did you have a thing at school where you had Valentine's at school or was y'all school too small to even give a Valentine 'cause other people's feelings could really get hurt in that sort of closed environment. - No, we still had Valentine's Day. - God. - Yeah, we still did. It did, every feelings did get hurt. - If there's nine kids in my class and there's Valentine's Day, dude, I couldn't cut that. - That was iron, never forget this kid. He was in our class, his name was Freddie. And he brought in this little bear, and he gave it to me. And he's like, for you to have this bear, you gotta be my girlfriend. I was like, sorry buddy, can't do it. And then he gave, yeah. But then he went over to Shelley and gave her the bear. - No, he didn't. - And I was like, hey, Freddie, come back over here. I will be your girlfriend. - No, don't. - Give me that bear back. - So you saw that kind of petition and all of a sudden, I ain't losing out. - Yeah. - And Freddie was willing to get a woman in animal. Dude, I remember we had a guy by us. He was a taxidermist or whatever. And I just remember he had all these hard stuffed animals. I didn't know. - Hard ones, yeah. - Yeah, I was like, that dude has the hardest stuffed animals ever. And he gave me like a squirrel, 'cause my mother said, I'd love it over there all the time. She'd find me over there. And he gave me like a squirrel. And I slept with that thing while I was here for like four years as big taxidermist as squirrel. - No, you didn't. - With a hard tail, yeah. - What do you mean a hard tail? - He had it, bring up a, look at that bitch. Yeah, look, look at the one. Yeah, that's a stripper. - I've never seen one done like that before. - Look at the one that's a stripper right there. - That's the one that you had for sure. - I think, I mean, I don't know. I was young, but I was happy to have it. - Yeah. - Look at the one canoeing in its own tail. That's pretty great actually. - Do they have a name? - Huh? - The name's Will. - Yeah, Mr. Talker. So he could have been trians. I have no idea. (laughing) Okay, a couple questions about your album and then you're new. Would you say real quick, Ella, could you boil your mic to the right? Just a little bit. - Would you come help for trevon? - She doesn't need any help, sorry. - That's perfect. She doesn't need any help at all. - Why'd you say that? - Just 'cause I'm thinking if there's one lady that doesn't need any help, it's probably you, I think. - Sometimes I need help. - You do? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I know sometimes I do too. I think that's one tough thing about like when you like kind of like, when things start like, I think if you're like a person that's kind of controlling or you know, you like to have a say in everything you do, do you feel like you're that kind of person? Like you were, that's one thing that I love about Morgan is. Morgan knows exactly what he's doing. He is dialed in to a T. I feel like on what is him and what represents him. - Yeah, I'm very much that way. I mean, every bit of what I do, I have my hand in it. Co-producing the record, I'm writing stuff for the music video, co-directing that, I'm making the set list for the show and kind of creating that set. I literally drew out our set in my journal and it was like, gave it to the set designer and he's like, "This is what I want." And they literally made that for me. - So when people come to see this next source, it's all you. - No, I mean, I have an incredible team. - Right, but it's all comes from your original. - Yeah, yeah. And it's interesting, it's hard to find people that sometimes people get stingy with your art in a way. And it's funny, it's like a pride thing. And I care so much about the people that I work with it being a collaborative experience, you know? And so everyone on my team, it really is that with whether it be my stylist or my makeup artist or Kayleigh over here is my photographer and also a creative director in my management, you know? My band, it's kind of like I don't get, tell my band to get up there and play this dang thing and leak for lick. I want us to get up there and have fun and play music. And obviously there's a way of show should go, but I don't know, I just think that sometimes people put these weird parameters around such a creative thing. And something that like I think you look like you love me did for me was like everyone told me that song was not going to work, you know? You're all like, what, what are you, my label tried to get it to sing. - After you only cut it or before? - Yes, after we had cut it, they were like, we really think you need to go back in and sing these verses. I was like, I'm not singing it. And they're like, you need to sing it. And I just thought I'm really hard on it. - And they thought you do need to go back in and sing Raleigh's verses? Is Raleigh one thing on that? - Yeah, but no, like the, yeah, the talking part. You know, I was all but 22, I think at the time. Yeah, no, they wanted me to sing that go back in. They're like, this is like going to be the worst performing song in the record. - No. - Yeah. And so I think with that one, I mean, it was just different. - And you knew it wasn't. - I mean, I didn't know what it was going to do, but I believed that like, - You believed in what it was though. - I believe that it was different. I believe that it was something that made me smile and I enjoyed singing it. And, you know, like I said, once I put my mind in something, like if I go and it cuts something, it's because I believe in it. - It feels like you get to know you some in that song a little bit too. I mean, it's just something about when somebody's talking to you, you know, when they're talking as well. I think there's, yeah. - Tells a story in a different way. - Yeah. - Yeah, I think so. Dang. Who's out there telling an L in the line, we know. - I don't know. - But have there been parts you've like, like as things got busier, you're like learning how to be like kind of like a boss, a leader, not necessarily a boss, but like a leader. - Yeah. - And then those are roles that you have to step into. I think if you want to be like exactly how you want to be, you know, 'cause otherwise there's like, especially in music and Hollywood type of stuff, there's, it'll make something for you and serve it out there, you know. But if you want to be on top of it, it takes a lot. - It does. I think that's one of the harder parts of this job and kind of what I've watched from watching other artists my whole life, obviously wanting to do this paid attention in the way. Like, you really do have to get up and fight to do it the way you want to do it every day. - Isn't that crazy? - You do, it's exhausting. And people all day, the more success, the more people care about what you're doing, you know what I mean. In the beginning and the label, you know, when I was first on, it wasn't a competitive deal, you know. They, I didn't really have that much going on. And it was more of like a banking on me type of a situation. - Right. - So now, you know, everyone is a little paying, a little closer attention to what's happening, obviously. - The pressure feels a little bit more. - And everyone has an opinion and it's like that across the board and that's just because it's working and everyone wants it to stay working and, you know, you know yourself the best in your artistry and like, at the end of the day, I'm the one that's gonna have to do that interview. I'm the one that's gonna have to sing that song every night. I'm the one that's gonna have to go take those pictures. I'm the one that's gonna have to work with these people, you know. And I think it's just constantly reminding them of that and not compromising who you are as a human being because, well, this is how it's usually done. I hate that phrase. - Oh. Well, this is what you would usually do. I was like, well, I don't give a rat's ass what you'd usually do. I do not want to do it like that. I really don't and I'm gonna stick my heels in the mud. - Yeah, I don't even have any heels and I'm just gonna put my feet in there. - You do have heels as the bottom of your foot. - This is, oh yeah, you're right. And I'm gonna put them in the mud. - This is the thing. - Yeah, I've always, I don't want to do it how you want it. That's, dude, that's been the pilot light of my entire existence. - Oh yeah, do it like this. That's a worse thing. You could tell me if you don't want me to do it. - Dude, I don't want to do any, I never want, dude, I couldn't even, my eyes wasn't even open and I was like, I ain't doing shit like you want me to. - Yeah, keep your eyes straight. - Okay. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - How about that, bitch? I'm coming to remix right up. - Yeah, yeah. - That's hilarious. Oh, congratulations. You guys, your tour with Morgan starts April 18th in Tuscan. - Tuscan Los, Alabama. - Yeah. - Bryant, did he stay at home? - I know, home stay. - That's so crazy. - It's cool. I think it's the first concert be in there since, like, what, 19, something? - Bring it up. - 19, 70, something. I think Alabama was the last thing. Oh, hey. - Bring it up. Oh my God. - Kaylee took that over there. - Did she? God, take some of me, Kaylee. I need to live like that. I need to get it down brooch. - Brooch? - I'm sorry, I'm nice, I mean a nice neck tie. I'm just joking. I'm trying to make your brother laugh. The only joy I'm having is when you guys laugh. - That's the giga. - Well, yeah. It's just nice. When people laugh, I feel okay. - Yeah. - Alabama Stadium show right there at Bryant, any, when was the last one? That's what we're asking. - Honestly. - This guy's just looking at pictures of men online. That's the dang football team. We just want to know what was the last one. I asked somebody, fucking, ask who's that roll tide guy. Oh, ask roll tide Willie, yeah. - He's actually from here on hometown. - Dude, he was in the military with my buddy's dad. He used to be pretty, not normal, but better. - Alabama, that's where he's from. - What? - Yeah. God bless him. The last concert, how did Bryant, any stadium was a performance by the band? - Alabama in 1992, which followed a series of Bama Blast concerts in the early 1980s. The 2008 concert with Alan Jackson was scheduled but canceled, damn. So that's been 30, 33 years. - Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that one. - That's crazy. - We're direct support this year. We've really worked our way up on this tour. First tour, we were first to four, we did with him. First year, we were second of four. This year, we're direct. - Congratulations. - Just climb your way, you know what I mean? - He says, I mean, I'm fucking with him about you in the earth, just, and he's like, she's got, she has it. She has got it. - He's been really cool. - He's a unique dude, man. - Well, you know, I mean him and Ern and Hardy and that whole crew has just been super economy. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Oh, that whole group's so much fun. I remember right whenever I moved in town, we had a podcast, too. I was living in wedged with you, so I just was renting a house and putting a podcast to you. And the guy was always stopping me. I was like, "You have podcast to you?" And he was like, "No." And just like, for some reason, it's got hated podcasts and whatever. And one day, we got to have Morgan and, uh, came and then we had, like, kind of just snuck out Hardy and Ern and we had a blast of it there. But that was fun. That was like an early episode that we had here in town. - Yeah. Those shows are going to be cool. - It's going to be so great. And, uh, oh, there was something else I was going to ask you about. Oh, and then you're doing stagecoach, too. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. Me and my buddy, you're DJing there. - Really? - Yeah, I do. - If you DJed before? - No. (laughs) But it looks so dang easy. - Yeah. - I'm just joking, Diplo. But it looks pretty damn easy. So, yeah, that's it. - Yeah. I don't know. I'm never tried that. - But, um, yeah, me and my friend Kayla Presley are going to, uh, play at Diplo's honky talk, so. - Stuart met him. - You did? - I'm going to ball. - Oh, they're great, aren't they? - Yeah. - Oh, okay. - Buddy balls is a character, man. - He is. - Yeah. - He loves a nice cheese, too. If you know of a restaurant in the area, he'll tell you about cheeses in any area. - Yeah. - He almost says like a. - He said, "Yeah, you will." You know that? - That's insane. - Like, he already did that. - It turns. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. He loves him, cheeses. - You know what? I met him over a whole party. - That's it. - Listen in a hearty. - Yeah. - And, sorry, I just dropped it in a horrible cheese country music lyrics here. - That was all great. - I thought it was too bad. - That's how easy it is. - But no, that's going to be cool. I'm excited. I'm excited to get to see a play out there. Let's talk about, and thanks so much for spending time with us today. - Thanks for having me. - Appreciate it. I appreciate it. We're happy to have you. We had this girl yesterday. Have you ever seen that girl? She's like on TikTok. She has like, she has stenosis. She has a, like, a syndrome. - S stenosis. - S stenosis. She keeps changing the name of it. But, yeah. This is her. Have you seen her? She talks about the spice. A little bit of spice. - A little hint of spiciness. A little hint of soy sauce. A little hint of the tomato. A little hint of the spice. - Tomato and ramen. - Yeah. - And she has like a little hint of tomato. - Oh yeah? - Yeah. - What is a hint of you? - I don't even know. It just sounds like a new word. - That's me all the time. What is even that? I don't know. Just say it first and figure it out later. - Yeah. - You have your new album, Dandelion, or Dandelion, that's it. People are saying it. - Yeah. - Congratulations. - Thank you. - Did you feel like you had to hurry up and get this out or, because I think sometimes coming off of like you said earlier, like your career starts getting bigger and things start to feel like you don't want to lose them at minimum, right? You worked so hard to build a flame. Did it feel like any pressure is like what were some pressures that were involved with this or was it just completely smooth and is that a ridiculous question? - Nothing is ever completely smooth, I don't think for real. Some, I don't know. Well, I don't know. Maybe some things. - Yeah. - Some things. Maybe yeah, but this record, I mean, I worked on it for like a year and a half, so it still took a while, but I say I keep saying the big word for this record is synchronicity. It did just feel like a lot of things while it was, you know, I'm co-producing for the first time while I'm full-time touring, two different tours, while, you know, just trying to balance everything at the same time, get the vocals done, you know, and it taught me a lot. And that's what was so cool, but I have a Miranda to be a part of it, you know? Because she's just so honest, you know, you've met her and hung out with her. She's just so real. - Yeah, she's great. - She likes barrel racing, too. - Yeah, she does. But she just, you know, she was just honest about, you know, days where I was like, she's like, you're burnt and take a step back, yeah, but also like, you know, some things I wanted to go in there. I'm like, can I say that? She's like, "Hey, oh yeah. You can say that. You can say whatever the hell you want to." You know? So like, that confidence of someone that has done it and like, you look up their career so much. You're like, "You know what? You know what? Yes." - Yeah, I do want the samples to be louder out there. I do. And no, it was really cool. This whole record, I'm so excited about it. I've never been more excited about music in my life. - Really? - I think I've clicked in my artistry. - Let's go, Ellen. - Yeah, yeah, I think I really have-- - That's a pretty bad-ass thing to say. - Yeah, I think-- - Especially if you mentioned earlier that you're such a judge of yourself, that you get off stage and you're like, "Yeah, that was fine, but it wasn't as exact as I could possibly have been." - Yeah, I just, man, this is exact as I wanted it to be. I just-- - Oh, yeah. - We had such a vision for it. I had 100 and something song reference playlist of what I wanted sonically for this record. - No, what do you mean? What does that mean? - I literally just went on Spotify and made a playlist of all of these songs of the era I was listening for like guitar tones and drum sounds and BGV background vocal parts and-- - Can you start with that idea before anything? - Well, actually it started with the title Dandelion. We had written that song. It's the oldest song on the record. It was almost gonna be put on the last record, but I pulled it at the last minute because I just kind of felt like sonically, it's where I wanted to go. And I knew it was like the context was like, feels like I'm growing and I'm not just so hungover and doing debauchery every day of my life, you know? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, maybe just on Tuesdays, you know. (laughing) But, yeah, so I found out that Dandelion T is a detox for your liver. - Oh, yeah. - And when I heard that, it was like a light bulb went off over my head. It's like, oh my God, a record called Dandelion coming after a record called hungover. It's like, you're just growing up. You're, you know, Dandelions are resilient. They're kind of considered a weed, but I mean, what are kids going and picking out for their moms and bringing them, you know, as a bunch of Dandelions? And they're actually spread on the wind, which is cool if it weren't for the wind. - Yeah. - So that's a little random, little nugget in there. But I mean, so much of that stuff is in this record and God. - God, I love it. - Yeah, I mean. - Sometimes I play it at the one I'm in in my room or whatever. - You feel like a Dandelion? - I will play it, I'm not saying all that, but I will say I will play it sometimes. - You never have felt like a Dandelion? - I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, I could have to read through my diary, but I don't think so, probably not. But that's okay. - That's okay. - But I'm just, yeah. I mean, I love you. - You're more of a rose. - Okay. I'm more of a damn. What's the plan that grows on your house even if you don't want it to? Yeah, I'm more of a cousin. - You are more of a cousin. - I'm more of a damn cousin. 'Cause they can't get rid of me. They're like, this bastard. I thought we'd put him out years ago. - Uh-huh. - It's like, bitch, I'm still aren't me. You're on under the porch, it holds up. - Come out. - And I'll tap on your window, I'm only planning. - Late at night. - Yeah. - I'm like a damn fungus, thank you. - Sorry. - Thank you, sir. I like to, I like to find, but we'll go fungus. We'll go fungus. No, but no, I love listening to your music. It's great. I mean, I'll be standing, I'll be standing, and who might have judged it's great, dude. One time I said to Morgan, I was like, man, that song's good and he looked at me and he goes, that song's great. And I was like, he's right, and he was right. - You just kind of sat there in silence for a minute. - I was just trying to, I think, be cool a little bit. He's like, no, and he was right. - You got kind of sweaty right when you said that. - Yeah, I think we're actually working out somewhere. So it was like, you know. - Extra. - I was just like, I don't know what was going on. But I remember him saying, that song's great. I was like, I respect this confidence about it. But no, I'll love listening to your music, it's great. But, quit saying that, dude. - Oh, it's great. - You feel like fucking weirdo. - I like listening to your music. - There's that smile again. - But here's what happens is, I'll be talking to dudes, and I'll be walking up and singing, or I'm at the dang market and some guys by walking by singing it. - You know what I mean? - Singing it? - Yeah, just singing it? - All of it. - Be heard. - Yeah, just yeah, yeah. Oh, dude. Yeah, my friend Alan the other day, he said, I can't get this out of my head. And I was like, well, gang, they'll look at some porn over something. You know, or go get a dang, one of them nudy mags or something, Bucco, you know? - That usually, yeah. - But anyway, I was just saying, 'cause that song is more of like a women-focused song. That's a lot. - I wrote it with three guys. - Did you? - Yeah, Hardy's one. - Did he? He doesn't have long hair. - He does. - And he has nice hair too. Well, tell me, like, so when it comes down to making the final songs, like, or did you-- - You wanna play one? - You wanna pick one out to play? - Yeah, play a song. Really? - Yeah. - Yeah, of course. - I'll give you all the titles. - All right. - And then you can just pick one of them. - Just pick one that's not out yet. - All right. - Well, how would you know? How would you know? - I think I will know. - Okay. Where was that sent to me at? Thank you. Okay. - All right. Let me see that. Just put my number in here. Sorry, I'm just watching this. Sorry. Just got taken over by the devil. - All right. - The dang devil is-- - You swipe it around and then-- - It's like you hand it to your dad and you just keep swiping and then you're like-- - Bro, if somebody-- If you give somebody a phone and they swipe one picture, is there anything scarier? - No. - You have no idea what that could be. - Yeah, you just swallow, it's just so hard. I mean, I'm so-- - It could be a casserole, it could be a damn, somebody getting a tummy tuck. - What's this, something you meant to take to show your doctor later on? - Oh, you're like, that's for my doctor. You're like, you're gonna show that young lady to your doctor? - Yeah, I don't know. - Me and my doctor at the time. - I need to go to a meeting. What about last call for us? - Yeah. You could play that one. - Is it a fun one? - It's not as much fun, but-- - It isn't. - If you want fun, not that one. - Oh, that's true, huh? - I mean, I like this song. - Oh, my God. ♪ The lines are coming on ♪ - I just listen and enjoy it. ♪ I don't wanna leave, but it's almost three ♪ ♪ And I think we both know ♪ ♪ That it's last call for us ♪ ♪ It's a sad side too ♪ ♪ That after these drinks you'll let go of me ♪ ♪ And I'll let go of you ♪ - Here we go. ♪ We ain't ever gonna make this work ♪ ♪ It's closing out and going our separate ways ♪ ♪ Soon as we go walking out the door ♪ ♪ We ain't ever gonna ain't ever gonna be the same ♪ ♪ It's last call for us ♪ - Here we go, boy. ♪ My crackable tears ♪ - Did it fit that shut tap in it? - Yeah. - He's my ultimate hype man. ♪ We'll both head along along ♪ - I can edit that in right there. ♪ But this time alone ♪ ♪ We won't come back here ♪ ♪ It's last call for us ♪ - You can fade it out some. - I think we could play one more. - We can? - Then we can just pick which one. - Let's do that. That's good because that might be sad 'cause what if somebody just put their animal down or something? - Then that's the song they want to cry too. - That's just a good point. - That's how we put it out there. - Yeah, and thank you for that. - Yeah. - And I'll say this. I went and saw Dermott Kennedy one time. You ever heard of him? Dude, and I didn't know people cry together in a big group at the right and right and so. There was a woman crying on my back 'cause she lost a pet. - You just let her. - Why couldn't do what am I gonna do? - Just let her. - She said just push my legs back if they get up against you and I was like, (laughing) You all right? But it was special. - That was a crazy ramen show. - It was. - All right. - And I saw you at the ramen. Remember you asked me to sing that part and I got scared. - Why did you get so scared? - 'Cause I couldn't remember it all. - There were words. There's a teleprompter out there with the words on it. - I didn't know that. Nobody told me that. - I did, yes, I did. I would have known. I teleprompter, I know about that. I know about words moving at slow speed in front of me. - Yeah, there was one with the words on it and everything. - I didn't know any of them. - Yeah, they were like, everyone was like, he was upset and I was like, well, why? (laughing) - I think I was upset. I think I was bummed 'cause I wanted to, 'cause I liked the music and so I wanted to be helpful and everybody else was helping out. And then I think I just got too nervous. I didn't wanna mess it up. - You would not. You could have come out there and said anything and it would have been good. - I don't know. - That's a fun part about that song. I messed up the words all the time. - Yeah. - All the time. - You do seem pretty much like you're just kinda, you're willing to just roll with it no matter what. - Hey, this is a special show for y'all. I've never done it like this before. I can't help it, I'm human. I think, you know, in a world of, you don't know what's real or not. Like, I just think going out there and not being afraid to be humble a little bit in that way. I don't wanna mess up the words. Like, when I did what I want with Morgan, I messed up the words almost every single time. I've never been so nervous to go out and do something. - Really? - I just felt like I could throw up for I walked out there every time. I was like, I just cannot, I could not remember those words. Like, here's me, like, there ain't no hot feelings. If y'all wanna add, I love us, do for days, you know. - My lovers do. - And I couldn't stop. I literally just. - You really? - I just couldn't, I don't know. And I would have, But then all right POV you go through this tunnel, you know what I mean and you're pointing to stadium It's the most people you've ever been in front of you're walking out with Morgan Wall and the everything gets dark And there's smoke everywhere and you got to walk out and I'm in pointy heels and there's greats out there So you got to make sure you're not falling down in those you get up and then Yeah, you go you get one shot at it. There's no practice too, you know, you get like one rehearsal You go out there and it's like okay, but doing it in front of 80,000 people is different than at 2 p.m In the middle of the day, but what was awesome is the last time we did it is he came out and messed up the words and I When he did now I just started to laugh so hard because he was giving me so much shit about messing up the words He's just like you can't come out here messes up again. I was like I might I really have scared that I might And so the last night he did and it was like he just immediately could never say another thing to me about most of the words, you know I love yeah, so that was nice of him if he did that He's like I yes, he says now. He's like that's why I did it and make you feel better about all the time Like yeah, and he might have who knows no because when he looked back at me It was pure like frustration that he like that couldn't no longer talk shit about me messing up the words Even yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah. Thank you. You'll do a good job on that one. Yeah, let's play one more then let's play something Melody. Well, let me think about one more. Let me try and pick one more. Okay. Can I just say yes or no if I think it's a good one Yeah, when we'll take that part out. Okay Why because if people if you say no, it's not a good one. They are but maybe not for this setting. Yes for this setting That's what I'm thinking about Bottom of your base. Yes Broke that was my freaking one that I wanted that my dad gave me that title actually. Yeah, I was like having a freak out one I was actually kind of a sweet story, but he was I was like tell me about it then well I mean he was just giving me one of his like you baby, you know, you're fine He's like, you know, I love you from the bottom of my boots to the top of my head Oh, that's a great guy. Anyways, that's as much of a dad as there is yeah You know pep talks. That's bottom the top. Yep bottom of your boots. Yeah Yeah Heck yeah Boy But I'm looking for more If you don't love me lay it on the table tell me how you really feel Give it on label If you're gonna hold me don't just hold me all night better hold me like you want to hold me Yeah, they got them shoulders Yeah, oh, oh man Get closer to a love song Do the top of your head Oh That's good That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good Enough Dude your brother is a great dancer. That's beautiful song dude, but he is dancing though. Oh, no Pretty good buddy. Heck yeah, I thought he's my he's my height man. Yeah, no, I would get him out there and have him do it Do you ever do that? No, but maybe we should He's been streaming has he yeah, he's a streamer. Yep No Mustache stew, okay. Yeah, I like that man There's not a lot of Southern streamers really. I don't feel like I know I feel like Type I like it dude and is that a real hat from your sister's arm. Oh, yeah, I got to get that we're back to the song Yeah, are they did you really bring one? Let's go. I can't even wait to frickin put it on wherever I get home That's a great song. Thanks for letting us play it and I think um and what a great story to go with it that it came from your dad saying that to you. Yeah, that's awesome That's a nice reminder. Should we do one more? I mean I'll solve will definitely be here for that He picked out a good one. I think we should do broken I'll do it. All right. It's first course and is it about well never mind. I'll just be quiet You're figuring this town out one day at the time, ain't she? All right, can we skip all the talking baby? And don't try to find the right thing to say because the words ain't working on me lately Tears just fall on a hardwood floor gonna want to wipe gonna wonder what for it Don't ask if I'm doing all right, can we skip all the talking, baby? Just let me just let me just let me be broken Just let me just let me just let me be broken One night, baby, just one night let me feel everything that I'm feeling and if it's all right I'm gonna let it all, I'm gonna let it all out tonight So just let me just let me just let me be broken Just let me just let me just let me be broken Just keep holding me tight while I'm falling apart, baby just one night Can't you hear this live with the crowd? Oh, yeah with their lighters Oh, lighters People holding up pictures of people they've lost. Look at them, they're waking up You want shot of you with that light, that's pretty clutch Hey, you and me in the dark, just keep holding me tight while I'm falling apart, baby just one night Just let me just let me be broken Yeah, a lot of singing courses on this record I've thought a lot about like wanting people to sing along to these songs You did You thought about that A lot, you know, I mean, I don't know, I just. No, it's interesting Sometimes there's so many words in the songs, and I was just like, I can't not remember But I can remember the melody, you know, so a lot with these songs I wanted them to be kind of easier, remember, big singing courses like, you know, you hear that course once And you're already new head of singing Yeah, because you want to feel a part of it, I mean, I think as a listener you want to feel a part of it as quick as you can sometimes Especially if you're a fan of somebody you like, you know If it fits you, some of them, you know, certain songs fit certain people better than others Well, maybe you haven't heard all the songs and you just know like one or two and then you come to the show But you can still catch on to song throughout the show because. Because I hate just standing there I hate just standing there and I have too much ADHD to just stand there God, and you have to keep getting snacks because you don't know the song, you're like, well shit, I'll get another snack or whatever Get another pretzel, I guess I'll get another pretzel Maybe make it cinnamon this time Yeah, maybe I'll change things up or something and get a damn diet, gatorate or whatever Which they never came out with, which I have written them about I had this. I had this. Like choosing taxes is probably the biggest song everywhere, apparently they had somebody called it, they found an alien or something, he was singing it I think there was like a family of aliens, they saw somewhere where they saw them singing it It's number one and everything, it's like, you know, it's like the biggest song that's ever happened Some guy, you see that guy on a coma who kind of wakes up and mumbles one of the lyrics and then goes back into a coma Yeah, he's like. Yeah, go over it Just zoom in Are you getting them right back? Right off I haven't seen that one There's so many memes to it though, have you seen a lot of those? Yeah Let's. can we bring some up? What do you think about all these? I think that it's. It's whatever people want to do with the song, you know, once I put it out there, it's like. Who knows what can happen and I. Like I said, this is what's gonna keep songs alive You know, it's. ♪ It's a way to leave, drink and jack up all by myself ♪ - Yeah, this is done. - It does sound real close to that. - Drink and jack off by myself? - Yep. (laughing) - I think it does. It does, and I'll get songs stuck in my head and parts to it, and I just have that right there stuck in my head, like on repeat over and over again now. - Just drink and jack up by myself? - It just like jacking and jack on and out. - Have you ever actually sung it like that on stage or no? - I've feared that a lot. I really do, 'cause I have the thing about me where it's like, I have one specific thing I should not say, and then I'm accidentally gonna probably say it. Like, I don't know why. - God, yeah. - Yeah. - Because I'm Satan's tickling you from the inside. (laughing) - Here's one right here. - That'll do, yeah. ♪ He's choosing Texas I can take ♪ - Oh, yeah. It's ju-- There's juice in Texas. - Yeah, I know. - I see a new one all the time. (laughing) ♪ He's choosing Texas I can take ♪ - If you're drinking jack up by myself, there's juice in Texas I can tell. And it's just a, see me, a mixed guy at least, possibly a black man, fishing in a suburban man-made pond. - There's no way that they're fishing that pond right now. - You don't think? - No way. - I don't know. I bet there's some damn missing women in that bitch. Pull up one more. (laughing) - This-- ♪ I'm bound down and I can't have a cry ♪ ♪ That's 40 ♪ (laughing) - My dad loves that one. - It says, some people can't see it 'cause they're listening. Well, let me spin it down and I can't help but cry 'cause I farted, it says, on the screen. So that's what they're saying, she said. That's hilarious. Yeah, the only ones I've seen is the juice in Texas and then drinking jack off by myself. - It does. - It's like that, you can be my green bean. You remember that thing? - You can be-- - You can be my queen bean, Lord. Remember that song? - Oh. - And everyone's like, you can be my girl. - Yes. - Yeah, I used to do that much. - I get mad on my butt. - You can be my queen. - Life's a pain to pass. Get my gunna, you don't wanna sum them with us. You say it. - You can be my queen bean. - You could, oh yeah. You could be my queen bean. - But everyone's like, you said green bean. - Oh, you could be my queen bean. - Okay, I gotta stop, dude, for some reason. Some real man shows up and chokes me out. Can we, okay, moving on, Ella Langley, and then your own tour, you have your own tour, is kicking off after, or it's in between the one with direct support from Morgan. - Kind of back and forth sum. We start in May, May 7th. Where are we starting? - Toledo, Ohio. - Toledo, Ohio. - I guess when Vietnam was, was that where Vietnam was? I know it wasn't, sorry. I know Vietnam was on until you, I think Vietnam started in May 7th. - Oh, that's the day. - It doesn't matter either way. - At this point. - Let's pretend that's not part of this. Well, you got double Marlowe's on it. You got Dylan Marlowe and Cameron Marlowe. - Not related. - Two totally different singers, both great. - Caitlin Butts on there. - I'm trying to think if I've heard her before, can you bring up Caitlin Butts? ♪ You ain't got to die to be dead in May ♪ - She is, she has an incredible cover of 'em. ♪ I went down to Tulsa ♪ - Oh yeah. - Yeah, she's incredible. She's her voice is incredible. She's so fun, her songs are fun. ♪ No they're all the same ♪ ♪ You know you're doing better on your own ♪ ♪ So done by ♪ - She's also really funny. - She's funny? - Yes. - Oh, it's the best. - That's good. - Yeah. - Yeah. - One thing about being on tour. - Being on tour, there's nothing better than funny girl. A lot of funny girls I noticed, and this is something I noticed, is that a lot of them are from Philadelphia area. - Yeah. - I made you notice that. - I just noticed it, and I believed it. - Well, that's all you got to do. - When I noticed it, I believed it. - And then that's what it is. - Yeah, sometimes you meet some funny girls from Philadelphia area. But anyway, also, Caitlin Butts. And I look forward to getting to meet her sometime. - She's really good. And then Gabriella Rose is first a three for almost the whole thing. She's incredible. - Diplo was telling me something about her, right? - So, she's so good. I believe in her a lot. She's young, and she's still like, you know, finding herself in her artistry and, you know, doing the whole damn thing. But she's so good, and yeah. Yeah, the way she writes, it's like, you can tell she means what she says. And then Lacey K. Booth is another one, so. - My God. They are just some good women out there. - Yep. - We are glad they're doing it. - Oh, yeah. - We are glad. - We are glad. - Sorry, I don't know. Is this the weirdest interview? Is it okay, guys? - It's awesome. - Yeah. - Those guys are perverts, both of them. Ella, thanks so much for hanging out with us. - Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Congratulations on all of your success on everything that's going on. And just learning to like figure it out 'cause I think that's one thing that everybody's trying to do. I think sometimes people think that like, people like it are in some sort of limelight or going through some sort of like popularity or exposure or fame that they-- - There's like a conductor behind stage that's like telling you what to do every second in the day. - Yeah. - No. - Oh, yeah. - Sadly that ours is in there. But can you imagine what our conductors look like too in there? It's a mess. If they pulled out whoever lose in my head from behind a building. From behind a building and they're like, look where you look where you found back there. I would like fucking hang you from the nearest rope, bro. - Did you ever watch the Inside Out movie? - And he wouldn't have pants on, I bet. - Probably. - You're like, wait, you're telling me that got in my head. - Has never had pants on. - Never had pants. Like the officer's like, he doesn't own pants. You're like, well, what? - We can't afford pants. - Yeah. - God. - Have I ever watched the Inside Out movie? - Yeah. - There's like the characters that live in your brand cartoons. - You would love this movie. I actually think that you would. It's incredible. - I never seen this. - You should. You should see it with your eyes. It's very good. - Okay. - It's like about all these characters. It's like, they all are like, it's like sad, mad. There's like one main girl and then there's like a, I don't know what the other one is. Joy. - Yeah, there's some anger discussed. - Oh, I see, I see all of them. They're all labeled up there. - Oh, wow. - Anyway, just always make me think about that. - I appreciate that. - Welcome, just something for later on the plane, whenever you're on the plane. - Yeah. After I get done listening to the Dandelion then. - Yeah. - I'll put on Inside Out. I'm sure that people are sitting next to you. (laughs) This guy's going through. - No, it's not. It came up on you watching that. They'd be like, yeah, for sure. - Probably, it's kind of crazy. That's what we're at now. And if an adult came up with another adult watching a fucking cartoon, they'd be like, yeah, man, you do everything's fine. (laughs) - It might be having a hard day. - It's a crazy world. So you're going to be on tour for a bit then. You won't get to go back home for a while. Or do you have a set date? Are you going to go back home? Will you be home for Easter? Will you be home for? - Yeah, I'm going to go home for Easter. And then-- - Will you go back to the church that you grew up in? - No, no. Just, well, we moved to a different place. My parents just sold that house actually. They closed out like a week or two ago. - Oh nice. - Yeah. But yeah, I just bought a house back there on a lake and don't want to say where because people already come up on their boats and stuff, playing my music. It's kind of funny. - People are perverts, people are seafaring pervert. - But it's not just a small town, you know what I mean? They're like, they're cool. There's like a pigly wiggly and a DJ there, you know? - Oh yeah. I mean, people used to pull up our apartments and steal all the ditch onions that were out there. - I never, what? - You haven't? - Mm-hmm. - I have never. - Oh, they got ditch onions out there. - Um, and congratulations on choosing Texas as a number one. It's a number one for. - This is so many. I don't even, it's too many slices, too many things. It's actually crazy. - It's a number one for everything. I think it just came out on the moon. It's the first number one on the moon, I think. - Yeah, I don't really know. That would be nuts. - Um, no, yeah, I don't know. It's just so weird to believe that that's like a song, that's my song. - Yeah. - What? I know it's hard to feel attached to things that you do sometimes. - Yeah. - I think. - Yep. - I think that makes good sense. Well, maybe that's one of the things that makes you you, but whatever the things are that make you you, they're enjoyable to witness. So thank you for spending time with us. Thank you for your music. There's so many people I know that love it, and then it brings joy to their life. And I'm glad I got to meet mustache stew. - And yeah, when I need some photos and my conditioner set, something to call you, and then get something swell going on. - Something swell. - Yeah, something swell. Ella Langley, thank you. - Thank you for having me on here. - Yes, ma'am. ♪ Now I'm just floating on the breeze ♪ ♪ And I feel I'm falling like these leaves ♪ ♪ I must be corner stoned ♪ ♪ Oh, but when I reach that ground ♪ ♪ I'll share this piece of my life out ♪ ♪ I can feel it in my bones ♪ ♪ But it's gonna tell you ♪