The transcript explores a blend of satire, personal anecdotes, and social commentary centered around media influence, truth, and identity. It begins with a critique of the "Lemonati" — a symbolic force that has long prioritized lemon over lime in pop culture — and introduces 7UP’s new lime-lemon soda as a counter-movement. The conversation then shifts to Jake Paul, portrayed as a renaissance man with ventures in content creation, boxing, and potential political ambition. Throughout, themes of authenticity, truth, and personal responsibility emerge, especially in discussions about misinformation, conspiracy theories, and the commodification of reality. The hosts reflect on human behavior — such as the absurdity of blackface, the influence of social media, and the emotional weight of personal milestones like Olympic victories. These moments are interwoven with humor and self-deprecation, revealing a deep curiosity about how people navigate identity and perception in a saturated, entertainment-driven world. The discussion also touches on societal issues like addiction, political ambition, and the role of truth in public discourse, concluding with a call for personal integrity and self-awareness amid the chaos of modern culture. Ultimately, the piece presents a raw, humorous, and reflective look at how individuals — especially those in the public eye — balance entertainment, truth, and personal growth.
- For decades, a shadowy organization
called the Lemonati has kept lemon on top
and lime in the shadows.
Look around, lemon-forward sodas, even lemon-forward songs.
We ran the tracks, slowed them down, reversed them,
and squeezed out the truth.
♪ All hail the lemon ♪
- That's lemon propaganda right there.
But now, 7UP is fighting back
with their new lime-lemon soda.
Join the 7 uprising.
Flip the sip.
- Just a reminder that tickets for Busboys, the movie,
with myself and David Spade are on sale right now.
Pre-sale tickets, you can get them.
It's in theaters April 17th.
But if you get tickets now, it'll show the movie theaters
that we're gonna sell them, or that they are selling,
and then we can expand to more theaters.
So if you know when you're gonna go
and you can support, that would be great.
And no pressure if you can't.
Again, the pre-sale tickets are available, busboysmovie.com.
I'm excited, thank you.
Today's guest is a renaissance man.
He's a content creator, an entrepreneur.
He's a professional boxer.
And he has political aspirations, possibly.
We'll find out.
This is my first time getting to sit down with him
and really have a talk.
So I'm grateful for that.
Today's guest is the problem.
Child, Jake Paul.
♪ Shine on me ♪
♪ And I will find a song ♪
♪ I've been singing just for you ♪
- It's a pro-creating name for everybody.
Can you believe that anybody make a kid?
That's wild.
- I think it's a massive problem.
Just like anyone could have a kid.
- It's crazy, bro.
Like, when I look at people, I'm like,
yo, what the fuck is this guy doing?
He's got a fucking kid.
He's gonna raise this kid.
Is the kid's gonna be worse?
Like, I don't know.
Well, we'll talk about Logan after a while, dude.
But I'm talking about just in general.
I'm just joking, Logan.
But I'm talking just about in general, dude.
Yeah, the fact that they don't put,
birth control in the Suboxone, first of all,
or something like, like methadone with birth control,
you think they're just, and if you don't finish school,
you shouldn't get more than one kid, I don't think.
- There should be like a certificate that you gotta,
you gotta fill out some paperwork first to get a kid, bro.
To be honest, you gotta pass an IQ test, honestly,
or some shit like that.
- Even a low IQ test would be good.
- It's still bad, like, ah, these people.
And by the way, it's like the movie Idiocracy,
which, by the way, is like fully colorful.
I mean, the life.
- Yeah.
- You mean the historical drama, Idiocracy?
- Yeah.
- I mean, yeah, I agree.
It was like a, it used to be a comedy movie,
but now it's like, like--
- It's art now.
- Yeah.
- It's art, yeah.
- It's like, oh my God, we're here.
- Yeah.
- Like, and by the way,
Brondo, like the electrolyte drink in it, is like prime.
- Oh, yeah.
- It's like, it has electrolytes, like.
- Bring up Brondo, that's hilarious.
It's, dude.
- Bro.
- Bring up a clip from that, yeah.
- Bro, look at the president with the machine gun.
This looks fucking good.
- The Brondo's not working.
Now, I'm no botanist, but I do know
that if you put water on plants, they grow.
- Well, I've never seen no plants grow out of no toilet.
- That's good.
- Yeah, this is where we are.
- Yeah, literally.
- Yeah, that's a prime business meeting right there.
- Yeah.
- Or that's, no, I'm joking.
But that, yeah, it's where we are, bro.
- And by the way, we're Celsius partners.
- Yeah. - We love Celsius.
- Are you Celsius partner?
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Me and you, both.
- I'll have a little.
I gave a little to my buddy's cat the other day.
- Yeah.
- How did it do?
- He likes kind of the cherry cola flavor.
He didn't have a lot.
- Did it, like, do something cooler or no?
- I mean, we haven't seen him, so.
This cat is really, it's a wild cat.
He's a BLM activist.
- That cat was living fit, bro.
Like, he just disappeared.
- He hit a gym like 30 miles away, so.
- He turned into a fucking Iron Marathoner.
- Dude, he's dating a dog now.
He's fucking, he's crushing it, dude.
- Dude, drinks Celsius.
- Yeah, it's changing the animal sex order, dude.
Dude, good to see you.
Dude, I saw this picture of you the other day.
See if you can pull this up.
There was a picture of a pet that we saved,
speaking of pets, that one of them looked like you.
And tell me if you think it's fair or not.
And this is, I'm not.
- That's pretty good. - That one?
- Yeah.
I would say that's a great compliment.
- Yeah, that's-
- I thought it was gonna be much worse.
- Oh, dude.
- I thought you were gonna show like a fucking lemur
or something.
- Yeah.
- Something on his last leg or something.
- I was like, I'm honored that this is,
he thought of me, bro, 'cause.
- Yeah.
- Bro, 'cause every time I look at you,
I just see Joe Dirt.
So, it's just like-
- The soil's rich.
- Yeah, dude.
I do feel like Joe Dirt.
Me and Spade have a movie.
That we made that's coming out.
- I'm so excited for it.
- We're excited.
- "Busboys."
- Yeah, "Busboys."
So, we made it ourselves and everything.
So, that's exciting.
- Was that hard, by the way?
Did that make it harder to like self-fund
and stuff like that to make the movie?
- Like what part of making it?
Getting it done or getting in theaters or getting it-
- Yeah, theaters, I think.
Yeah, all of it.
- Getting in theaters, I think people were,
some people called and were like,
"Dude, how'd you guys get it into theaters?"
You know?
And so, that part I think was kind of tough.
The tough parts were just all of the spaces
you have to stay involved with.
You think like, "Oh, somebody else does that."
And you're like, "Oh, no, there's nobody else."
And so, it just falls back on you.
I'm sure it's-
- Yeah, are you nervous like for the outcome?
Because I think, you know, like you just see
a lot of movies with the biggest names these days
with super big budgets and the, you know,
all the people behind them and then it flops.
Like, are you nervous about that?
- Yeah.
- 'Cause it's public.
Like even, I've had,
a couple of fights where it's like,
the pay-per-views weren't as good,
but it's private info.
- Hmm.
Yeah, I think there's a part of me like,
I like to be like kind of in control of what I do, right?
And so, that's why I was waiting to do something
where it's like, we wrote it, we made it, it's our own thing.
So, at least in the end, I do feel like we did a good job
and I got to do it with somebody really like,
who's amazing and like, established in that universe.
Yeah.
I think it is scary because you don't want it to affect
how people think about you or feel about you.
They may just not be like,
I care about seeing a movie this weekend.
And it's almost to the weekend.
Like nobody buys a ticket for a movie three weeks in advance.
I thought we'd put it out and be like,
oh, it'll all sell out like maybe with a comedy show.
But with a movie, it's like,
you kind of have to wait till that weekend.
It's probably similar with like a pay-per-view.
- No, a hundred percent.
And we actually like base our fights around
making sure there's no other,
big events like the last fight on Netflix,
like third biggest fight ever with Joshua,
35 million viewers live.
But it was the same weekend as Avatar, the same day.
So it plays into it.
Like, would we have gotten a 5 million more viewers?
It's just something interesting to think about.
But sometimes you can't choose another date.
So.
- Yeah, we just, yeah, I think I'm definitely a little bit,
spooked about it.
I'm a little, I'm nervous about it.
I'm also kind of excited about it.
And if I think if it doesn't go great, it's okay.
It's like, you know,
I hope it does because we want to be able to make more stuff
and help other people make more stuff that don't get like,
like there's no studio attached to it.
It's like, nobody told us anything we could put in
or out of the script.
So it's all our own thing.
So.
- So it's not woke.
- Yeah, it's not woke, dude.
We got an eight year old saying.
You know?
- Bro.
- And I don't, you know.
- Bro, perfect, bro.
- And he didn't mean it.
- Yeah.
And by the way, you paid him to say it.
- Yeah, that's true, dude.
- So you're, you're, you're invoking abuse.
- Yeah.
- Theo.
- But we paid him handsomely, you know?
- We paid him enough.
- Hey, we didn't touch him.
- Honestly though, honestly.
- We're already better than half of them.
- This is my problem with people saying the word.
- Yeah.
- Is that like, I would never say it.
- Yeah.
- Like, so.
- Yeah.
- I'm just like fucked up to say.
- Oh yeah, I don't say it.
So, but yeah, let's, what else is going on?
- What don't you say?
- I don't say it.
I'll say it really, I will say it very fast
because some people are wondering what I don't say
and I'm not gonna be,
and you won't even know when I'm gonna say it.
So.
That was it.
And I didn't even say it, so.
And who knows, I might be a homosexual when I get
older after I get married and leave my wife.
So.
- And that's why you're fucking smart.
- Yeah.
- 'Cause you're hedging.
Like, you're saving, you're an investor.
You're a forward thinker.
- Yeah.
- You're literally a renaissance man.
Because at least you can fucking admit
that you might be a later in life.
- Whoa, bro.
I'm not gonna be some crazy.
- Grr.
- Grr.
just a guy who is doing his best, who fucking is pissed
off at one of his friends and lets him fucking jerk him off one time i'm not gonna be some guy
who's holding hands and going to like a market or something so anyway now that our careers are
both over uh no we still got celsius no they'll never leave us oh dude two sips of this you'll
come on your buddy's back um did you see that uh did you see that drewski skit what do you think
you know what's so funny is that i wanted to talk about this with you really yeah i mean this shit
is crazy when she starts doing that oh my god what what are what are your thoughts i thought um
it's so bizarre it's one of his more bizarre videos i mean it's it's hilarious dude she's
in this space i wish she had gone
a little more into like this stuff with the husband and what could have happened but
i don't think black people like mess with people's families and shit that much they don't go into
that kind of area very much um yeah i mean drewski's just you never know what he's gonna do
bro and this sets that precedent like like nothing else i mean look at this bro this could be fucking
you or logan in 40 years dude you know what i'm saying
and not in a bad way
yeah no honestly dude this is all kogan's whole family in one picture this is all kogan
yeah no honestly it's fucking hilarious i loved it and i'm i'm obviously republican
and like all the republicans being mad about this shit is like a fucking l for republicans
because this is fucking hilarious and even though it's fucking dark and twisted um and it's and it's
not maybe the the it's this is what comedy fucking is yes i agree this we are fucking humans
let's make fun of ourselves and there's truth in this yes um and and extreme truth and people
weren't ready for that but but uh i i think it's fucking hilarious and um i want to ask you
something because i've been over the last couple of years i've been in a lot of trouble with
a couple of days
calling um makeup artists and i was gonna do a response to this and like go and do like the full
on darker yeah and do it and just do it back because why not yeah like are we on the same
playing field like i think if you if there's a way to do it oh they're singing in well that's
even this sentence but if there's a way to do it i've been here many times
if there's a way to do it i think yeah i think there needs to be some black support
for the character i think like i'm saying like say if uh druski or um i'm trying to think of
somebody else um charles barkley charles barkley if you got one of those guys to be like hey
do you want you to do this skit with me let's do this but but still that's that's pussy you
know you think it is yeah to me there's a level of like doesn't that make
us more um like prejudice oh like more prejudice that makes us if we have to partner with
someone druski just dropped this and he's done it a couple of times exactly
i fucking love it this is great this is how humans should be i agree we should
fucking
make fun of each other and i don't see in color i see in truth and comedy so like what are we
talking about so you're saying what era are we living in you know justin trudeau didn't he's
freaking dating katie perry you see that justin trudeau the mayor of i was just with them i was
just with them no you were not yeah at the jp morgan summit he was b-facing look at him right
there in the middle look at the one in the hat in the middle for this before yeah look how dark he
went i mean
he went but but to be fair that picture is in black and white so we can't tell how dark he went
but that's fair that's kind of fair what about jimmy kimmel when he was blacking around over
there bring that up huh hey hey look at him just black and i mean look at that even the cross eyes
that's jimmy kimmel yeah that's not shack that ain't fucking shack dude that looks healthier
than shack
there's no way that's jimmy kimmel oh god and look bro and look by the way that is jimmy kimmel
look at fucking jimmy kimmel fucking on the left untouchable yeah what the fuck bro yeah
wow how can they get away with this shit the shit that pisses me off it's like like kids can't be
black for halloween dude you know like a kid it's his favorite athlete he never grew up with
anything racist in his heart or anything yeah and he wants to he wants to be black for halloween
he wants to be lebron yeah the halloween this kid is just like fucking getting penetrated by
haters that's the problem there's too many haters out there but look druski's doing this shit
craziest when he did was the one where he spit on a black guy out of a car dressed as a white guy
you see that one bring up that country i didn't see that one he drives up
but bro honestly bro no no more this is insane no more honesty from you dude
no i got a lot more oh hold on there's enough look at this part right here yeah after this
bro how many right here watch this you lost more no i'm going to the race
what race nascar race you're going to nascar
you ain't lost did you what the fuck is going sure about that okay so this brings up the actual
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discussion, and I'm glad that you brought it up because sometimes, yeah, it's like I don't even
have anybody that's even semi-black. You're like kind of the blackest guy we've had in here in a
while. People tell me that a lot. Yeah, dude. You're blacker than Logan. That guy is white.
Yeah. I mean, he's basically Hulk Hogan. Oh, dude, he is probably.
I went to Hulk Hogan's funeral, which is pretty crazy.
But anyway, did you, uh, Oh dude, at his funeral, nobody knew Jim McMahon was there.
And, uh, who's Jim McMahon, Vince McMahon, Vince McMahon, Jim McMahon showed me his asshole
one night.
He used to play for the bears.
He showed me his asshole one night at a, uh, yeah, his shout out Jim.
He showed me his asshole and I didn't even ask about it.
And what, what, so how did he show you his asshole?
It was outdoors.
He was reenacting something and, uh, and he showed me his asshole, but he's awesome.
Honestly, the, the, the more people I meet in life and like, he showed me his Richard
Dent, you know, that's just an old bears player who played at the same time.
And that's just such a crazy statement.
Okay.
Go on.
The more people.
No.
Yeah.
The more, the more people I meet, the more weird, like, I think that, yeah, like people
are fucking weird, bro.
Yeah.
And they want to show people too.
It's the 11th fingerprint.
So this is the problem is like, I was raised right in a sense, but like, I'm saying, I'm
saying like the, the richer you get, the less, um, normal experiences become for you.
So you have to do something different to feel something.
And I don't fall under that category, but a lot of these people do.
You seem like you're trying to like take yourself out of the files.
Right now or something, but dude, you got it.
I'm sure you've run into some wild shit.
I'm just saying, you caught me.
You fucking caught me, bro.
You're good.
You're good.
You're good.
It's a mall that I think it makes you smarter.
I'm like, bro, you caught me.
That's my new character.
It's a black detective.
He figures it out.
Yeah.
Wikipedia Brown is fucked.
You're a fucking genius, bro.
No, you caught me, bro.
Dude, you and I should not be declaring anybody a genius, bro.
We are fucking wrong.
Now you're just saying something wrong.
You're just saying something definitively.
No, no, no.
Hey, bring up that fish that's in a wheelchair.
Have you seen that?
Bring up that wheelchair fish.
Somebody built.
Bro, Theo, if you don't think you're a genius, then you should like have some self-reflection.
Do you, do you actually not think you're a genius?
No, not at all.
Not at all.
That's a big problem for yourself.
Look at this.
Look at this bitch they got.
You don't think anything's possible, dude?
Look at this bitch.
You trying to fight that thing next?
Dude, look at that motherfucker.
This is a perfect opponent for me.
Wheelchair and 2IQ is who I'm looking to fight.
You can still have the one fight deal with the UFC, but you gotta fucking.
We'll get him out.
We'll face him out.
We'll get him out.
But this is what.
We're fucking living in, dude.
People can't eat and we're fucking building fish wheelchairs, bro.
So anyway, and that's also, I'm not going to lie though, like, and you know what?
The fish's name is dude.
Joe Biden.
That's the craziest part.
It makes sense.
Why is it a fucking wheelchair?
This is, this is comedy gold.
Like, uh, it's comedy gold fish, dude.
We're fucked.
We're fucked, dude.
This is horrible.
All we've done is, is lobby for fucking blackface, this whole pod and nothing else, dude, but
we're going to keep it moving, man.
Do you think, um, okay, let's, let's start over.
Okay.
Do you think Erica Kirk had anything to do with the husband's death?
Let's switch it up.
Let's switch it up.
And that's mouthwash, you know, but yeah, keep having some.
Do you think it's a fucking good stuff?
That's a new Listerine green apple, bro.
Are you, you're funny.
I don't know if you can ask that question.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'll talk about a lot of things, but I, I don't think I'll talk about Charlie Kirk and
his assassination and the sensitive details around it.
Oh dude.
I don't even want to fucking talk about it.
It's just on our list of stuff.
So I'll keep it moving.
Some AI, you chat, GBT what to ask Jake Paul.
And then they told you this, it was like, well, we'll go most viral.
It said things Jake Paul could handle.
And yeah, one of them was frizz golf.
One of them was, Oh, the tiger woods DUI.
That was kind of crazy.
Let's talk.
Let's listen.
Let's brush on that because people deal with addiction.
People deal with that stuff.
It's something I've dealt with.
Um, that was kind of a surprise to me.
I was kind of surprised to see that, you know, have you ever played golf with tiger?
No, um, I don't know.
I don't play golf.
I, I mean, bro, like it's a second time thing for him.
Right.
Like, but it's been like a decade since the last time.
So it just seems like maybe he was going through a tough patch.
Yeah.
It's tough, bro.
It's tough.
Did you ever struggle with anything like that?
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Like, um, w especially when I was younger, there was a phase where, um, I was just like going through a really rough time in a lot of ways.
In life, um, suicidal, um, lost a lot of money and had terrible people around me.
And so that was a, that was a time that you were what were drinking or it was like a thing.
Cause I've been in, you know, like I've been in sobriety in and out of sobriety over the past like 10 years.
It's a fucking tough road, you know, and you try your best.
I've been in like shit for like, uh, sex, love, addiction, intimacy disorder, all of that shit, you know, I should probably be in like a fucking.
Wheelchair or whatever, you know?
And that's real talk, man.
Praise God.
No, it's, but, but see how you're healing with it and you're sitting here today doing great things in life and people love you and I love you and you're a genius and you're an amazing guy and you just like worked through it, but you're like, honestly healing with it.
It goes back to like comedy.
Yeah.
That's why you're funny as fuck.
And you're making fun of yourself and it makes it acceptable to your, uh, traumatized the version of yourself.
So, yeah, but, um, I, I've been in dark places as a kid, like it's the funny, like Disney star crash out bankrupt, money, money, money, bad people around you, drugs, alcohol party, LA girls, girls, girls.
Yeah.
And it just like, it's like a fucking cycle out there.
So my, my biggest advice to people is don't fucking live in LA and like go into that ecosystem.
Um, because I'm a product of it, but it's not me.
I, I had to, um, heal from it and like, but it, it, it's just was going to happen that way.
So, um, no matter who goes out there.
No matter who they are, it's not their fault, but like they become looped into that system and we'll end up unhappy and most likely addicted to a bunch of shit.
And, um, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a sad thing.
Chasing validation.
I met this person at this party.
I want to be famous.
I met this guy.
I took a photo with them.
It's just like a fucking dead end.
Um, so, um, yeah, I think that energy.
Overall in society is starting to change a little bit.
I think we're starting to realize that there's not like all this, like collection of moments and even items and even finances while we're here.
There's not a really, the depth of value to it.
Isn't, uh, it's a kiddie pool, you know?
So, so yes, I, I was at the, um, the summit this past weekend in Montana and I, I was taking a piss next to Jeff Bezos.
And my, my, uh, my dad always said to me, like, since I was a kid, famous people put their pants on the same way.
One leg at a time.
Yeah.
And so I realized like, bro, he's, I love him by the way.
Really?
He's a neat guy.
I can't even imagine what his voice sounds like.
He, he's just fucking, he's, he's awesome, bro.
He like shaped the world and he's going to continue to do that.
But, um, I just realized when we were peeing next to each other, like, bro, we're just peeing next to each other.
Just my fucking, this is my homie, essentially, but your fucking piss pot number.
Oh yeah.
We're just like Jeffrey, Jeffrey Bezos.
I was going to start singing it out loud, but I didn't have the confidence.
I was about to start singing his song and then I texted my friends like, yeah, I just pissed next to Jeffrey.
And they were like, did you grab his dick?
Like it's just all that joke.
A little French shit, huh?
It's just all a joke, bro.
Did you fucking same day deliver that cock?
You feel me?
That's what I'm saying, bro.
How prime was it?
Like, but bro, like at the end of the day.
Yeah, was it Logan or was it KSI?
That's just a further on the prime joke, but, um, I got it.
Thanks, dude.
But I remember one time I pissed next to fucking Kid Rock, dude.
And I was like, fuck, I thought I'd made it, dude.
That's what I mean.
But it's also funny to like these people like that are so, um.
in the media and i like find myself in this in this category often like people think they know me
they have so many ideas about who i am or what i am but like bro at the end of the day we're all
fucking humans and like seeing these people like eat like even just seeing jeff bezos eat was just
like funny it's like yeah okay yeah or watching him whisper to somebody yeah yeah exactly like
he has to whisper he has to eat bro he's just one of us yeah like he's just a guy's guy yeah
but does he seem like a guy's guy kind of for sure yeah he seems super cool somebody said he
seems kind of asian one of my buddies met him a couple times they said he seems kind of asian
did he seem like that to you
at all not fully or not yeah yeah so i couldn't tell when he was peeing like how
tight he had to grip it
oh
if he had a headlamp on
so yeah
i don't know dude that's crazy bro i don't know that's the only way i could tell if he's tall
he's like he's like five eight five nine okay so he's probably also his his wife like i think has
a weird like public persona um and their whole relationship bro it just goes back to fucking
but she was awesome and smart and nice and um very intelligent and um i don't know it's just weird
how the media paints everyone and it's it's actually sad because i even had a preconceived
notion of these people because it's just like indoctrination and you see enough things where
you just like start to conform to that idea but then you could just be so wrong
yeah oh i i think that that happens a lot you know it's easy to get addicted to that too one of the
things that i think is most important right now is um the the value of our own attention what do
we put our attention on you know because it's easy to sit there and just absorb all the bullshit and
be like here's a picture of lauren bezos or jeff bezos and you know there's just an article and
there's no even repercussion for anything more it's like she just got her tits done he just got
his head done or whatever and you're just like okay but you don't say but most people just we
believe it it's like i've found myself believing stuff and it's like this is you know i'm sure
you've read things about yourself that are astronomically outrageous no hundred percent
this is i think the word you said that is key is like repercussions like there needs to be some
form of punishment for invalid commentary on anything yeah um and
this is why i started suing people because um have you had a lot of nil type like that sort of issues
or just people saying stuff people mostly like rigged fights and and steroids and fake fights
and like this type of thing it's like bro do i look like i'm on steroids like no i'm a chubby
i'm a chubby kid like do do you know how legal it is within all of these commissions to rig fights
like you guys are actually fuckers
like you guys are actually fucking stupid but i can't say that to them and then even when i'm like
sitting here now defending myself it it feels like that they're gonna look at it and be like
of course he would say that right um so i'm just suing people because that's when the truth comes
out is like let's let's go to court yeah let's actually look at the documents and see if my
fights were rigged and get to the bottom of it and i know i'll come out on top of it but i'm not
because they're not and so yeah and this i'm gonna go delete an old tweet as well as you're
saying this but uh yeah oh yeah you you did say that thing i was like fuck you for a second bro
yeah i was actually mad at you i was upset i was mad at you but i was mad at you for saying that
yeah i can't remember if i did why though because i think yeah i think it's exactly what you're
saying it was like um well let me think about it i don't know exactly what i said but it was
something like yeah i don't or yeah some actually remember this it was a jab like that yeah you did
it was a verbal jab like you said i'm sorry man don't sue me also please and i will take it down
but like um but what what it's fine by the way it's fine it's fine but why like what was the
because i i look at it to be honest as another male who's insecure about me being successful
trying to take me down hmm let me think about that for just a second let me really think about it
yeah why would i say i was probably it was like um it felt like probably a bandwagon-y type of thing
you know um i'm not using that as an excuse i'm just saying that was probably part of it
yeah um let me think uh oh yeah it's easy for me now in hindsight yeah it's easy for me to like um
just say something from from here where i'm sitting here i don't have to say it to his face
i don't have to be around him and say it because i wouldn't i probably i wouldn't do that unless
i felt like it was a joking environment that was like something that i was
um yeah so those are probably the things to be honest with you and and um and i think it would
take us longer for me to sit here and or you know it took me longer to really probably sit and like
kind of think out what all the small parts were but those honestly are the things that i'm thinking
of off the bat yeah no and and uh like appreciate your honesty and candidness around that like
and and it's it is annoying for me because i fucking work
my ass off in the gym like all the fucking time i think i mean you came i mean you're like
there was a there was a time where it was like yeah this this guy isn't a real fighter
these are things that people would say and then there's no there's no person now like
you disproved but but that's the thing is i could handle the not a real fighter because
i'm like fuck you haha right i could handle the um like most of the things that people
said but then when i got so good that people couldn't believe what i was doing that it turned
to fake fight steroids that really bothered me to be honest um i don't know why like it just like
seemed like the polar opposite thing that people could say that would disprove it all
um so it was so far from truth and i think that's why
i am blessed by god and like such a uh pivotal person in today's society is because i live by
truth and i think that when you do that god continues to bless you and i think the the
fake fights thing like is so far from the truth that it really bothered me yeah i could see that
i could see that it would well yeah man i'm sorry if i contribute to that
bro it's fine it's fine no problem but i'm glad that we're talking about this because i do think
that it's interesting i think that um yeah i think there's something like uh
yeah why like yeah why does that kind of like why do we or why have i acted that way why do we act
like why is you know sometimes it's in just it's getting involved in the conversation but yeah to
think that there's not like um real repercussions or real like just things that happen feelings
that happen do you i think sometimes people you guys are such good promoters over the years right
and you guys have done a good job of continuing to evolve in uh entertainment and society like
there's not a lot of people that have a 17 year lifespan in entertainment and it may be longer i
don't i'm not sure how old you are it's yeah it's been like 13 years yeah i mean to keep that and
have a level that is like
one of the highest levels in different mediums and then also i think people don't know like um
i don't know people don't know but it's tough to get people to reframe you into something that's
different i'm not using those as excuses i'm just saying that there could be some of that in there
bro i'm not gonna lie like if i might have a little if i um like saw me as another like young
and up and coming
male i would like have jealousy of myself and be like fuck this guy he's got a jet
and a gold medal fiance and the perfect life in 6 000 acre ranch i would have jealousy
it's human nature right so i like get it like it just is what it is um i just think there could
be some of that in there yeah and yeah i mean it's like um it's weird and and also like
does it help you keep going though is there some of it that keeps a chip on your shoulder
because i got an i'm not i don't know what i'm motivated by anymore to be honest yeah
that's interesting i feel that sometimes i think it's i think it goes back to like
helping others and like community i'm a big fan of marcus aurelius and i mean the biggest thing he
just says is like your duty to society is the most important thing and so i
think that's where i've landed recently because i have like everything and um like you have enough
for yourself you mean you have what you need yeah and and my family and all of that so like
i i just go back to like the leader of the roman empire should probably listen to what he had to
say and one of his biggest sayings is i should you know your biggest thing is to be uh a part
of society and make it a better place so i think that's that's maybe where i'm at um these days
one thing that really um kind of like touched me was the way your reaction and involvement with
your uh fiancee at the olympics i thought that was really cool man i think there was
something that you were able to do that was really cool man i think there was something
like just as a guy like a lot of guys i think don't probably do a lot of supporting of their
girlfriends or spouses in certain ways and uh i thought something like that was really
beautiful to see i think we have do you have anything of it his wife won a gold
and they're cruising out there are they cruising
bro they're cooking um this is awesome bro how are you feeling what was bro so yeah so like
um yeah it it it's uh the greatest moment i've ever witnessed as a human just like everything
that happened and the way it played out was just nuts and i know how hard she works and
like how dedicated she is and how much every single day she's putting so much detail into
her work and um the girl right before her like two races before set sorry set set the olympic record
so we were all like looking at each other like oh my god that was a fast time she she might not
win right now like what the fuck um and then she just fucking calms out
and sets the new olympic record and fucking wins um let's go and i could i could tell that
she was going to win like before everyone else because i like see her times and so that's why
i was like already crying and i was like i don't cry there was some more build-up to it it wasn't
like just that exact moment you could feel it coming on yeah no i could you could see the the
speed and the times on the on the you know digital board
so i knew maybe before anyone else and um bro like i'm i'm the one that has to like deal with
her stress and problems and thoughts around the whole sport on a daily basis so i knew how much it
meant to her and yeah it was just like witnessing fucking greatness at the highest level
in the coolest thing representing her country the dutch people were all there screaming like
all of it was just beautiful um the dutch are fucking aerodynamic dude i've always said that
yeah they're very aerodynamic you've been you've been long on on the dutch they're tall
a lot of them are very aerodynamic pull up a dutch man bro just no my
pull up a dutch honestly you're just very aerodynamic i'm not gonna look at this
hold on that's just a random dutch zoom in on that guy on the right fucking mr
dutch
right there and fucking this little dutch dime right there boy donka shane homie donka shane that
guy'll fucking take on a wind right there that dude will take on a fucking a headwind and a
heartbeat you'll be back to puerto rico 10 minutes sooner if that guy was fucking attached to the
front of your bird that's for sure um i think there was something it was that was right you're
the dutch were aerodynamic she said it what else did your mom teach you what did she tell me i don't
know she was always working she would fucking drive by and yell at us she's like go brush your
teeth she'd fucking be zooming by in her car fucking yelling dude brush your fucking teeth
we're just in the yard we're like we're not even inside right now but she tried to parent the best
she could you know she was just always like delivering stuff no i thought it was awesome
too that you're like working on your um
foundation what is it with um kat williams or oh yeah yeah yeah and that that's what i was saying
like i'm just happy for your mother that she's gonna benefit yeah i'm glad to see mom you're
gonna get an afternoon off dude yeah yeah so what's the foundation again put that clip in
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that was a special time i'm glad you got to i'm glad we all got to witness that and that you went
there and showed up for that if you didn't have any money right if say you didn't have anything
and you had to get what would you get your girl for like a white like a present or whatever you
think i wouldn't i i
would write her a letter i i think that's still the most meaningful thing that you could do um
words i think are the most important thing in love and yeah i would just write her a letter yeah
oh uh yeah i saw that you sat with vance at the olympics vance is cool huh
yeah ohio guy he's neat to be around yep no he's super normal bro um
god damn he's pulling up the photos like that's his job yeah he he's just um
just joking travin sorry um yeah i like being around vance he's been on here a couple times
do you think he's trying to position himself to be that next dog or what do you think
i think i think yeah of course like that's the nature of the game um and
yeah like
i think he's uh yeah if you're gonna if you're the vice president you're already playing the game
that's a dangerous game so like it is and and i like dabble in it which it's it's scary because i
don't want to get popped but like and and beyond that like there's so many things behind the scenes
brands people won't even associate with you because of your political stance um
so it's a really interesting game to like play in but he's already balls deep so yeah i think
he's gonna jockey for president for sure it's gonna be scary when you're that deep in it
yeah it makes it easier when you have like 15 securities uh around you and people have to get
wanded just to talk to you but like yeah it's still weird it's still weird bro like it's the
weirdest thing in the world um do you yeah have you ever played that you're playing the biggest
game of life that's true and it's gotten dangerous yeah and do you want to play that and like can you
um it's it's just really interesting like
is there room for you in that space i saw something recently with you and trump where you guys were
like uh
kind of flirting or whatever just palling around or whatever yeah we're we're flirting he's cute
no i saw a thing where you guys and he was giving you a lot of credit yeah i was nervous
like i was sweating hella yeah it's got to be a moment like that where you're like okay
this is kind of wild
no yeah like at that point like life didn't make sense i had to like call my dad uh um for him to
ground me a little bit but he was like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
even he was like bro what the this is the coolest thing in the world um yeah i've been like
flirting with the idea of politics just because i think it goes back to marcus aurelius of like
helping society and like what that's the number one thing you can do um and
it's become a joke like my my business partner jeff wu we have a venture capital fund together bring
up jeff bring up wu and let's get a gander at him yeah yeah okay there he is there he is
so six years ago he was like you're gonna become the president no way he said that yeah and then
it became less and less of a joke and then i started to realize like oh my god um
if if if i'm the best person to do it and can actually win um then like i might need to do it
i'm already playing the biggest games of life yeah so we'll dabble in that if it makes sense
and if there's like a kamala running on the democratic party like dumb ass uh running
and opposing um i will enter the game and
and risk getting assassinated but i don't want to so um and what would you wear like a you couldn't
wear like a helm or something you'd have to have shields and stuff around you probably or just
you'd have to how crazy would it be if to protect yourself to run you literally had to like almost
like i wonder if people running in the future like live stream from a bunker or do you know
i'm saying do their things from like a protected space because it's going to get dangerous out there
yeah no you're a thousand percent right like they're they actually probably will
like i i yeah like i'm even scared just talking about this yeah um but i think we're
getting to a place where i could see something like that happening i could see you running
i could see something like that i could see like it does take something inside of people
i feel like that they feel a sense of a purpose and a calling to something and if they can make
sure that that's not just attached to their own ego and they can make sure that there is a sense
of like i can do something better and i'm willing to put myself out there to do that yes and sign up
for the hardest job in the world yeah where you're 14 hours a day just cranking it i've
seen trump his energy is why he's there like he's a legend in that in that sense and it demands so
much of you and will take away not only your life but everyone that you're affiliated with
so you're also like signing your kids up for it so like i really don't want to do it but like
it it's become like a funny joke that i would and then randomly trump endorses me fully um which
someone texted me that said
like you'd have to pay him a billion dollars to get that endorsement
um and you got it for free right there yeah hold it up let me see a little endorsement
this is pretty good god is with us i know he wants us on the right side of history
and everyone here has to do their part and god's got us trump's got us god bless love you kentucky
kentucky
kentucky
kentucky
kentucky
did a good job there man that's a tough environment to be in that kind of space
i mean it would it be something like you would run with advantage i mean do you think it's something
like that or would you start as mayor of like like northern puerto rico or something or do you
is there any talks or what is the concept i guess sorry yeah so you actually are like super um
perceptive because yeah that was my plan was to start in northern puerto rico
in pr dude which just got defunded so put it back on the map i uh i don't know i honestly don't know
but it's just something like it's like a poor it's like kind of like a light in the distance right now
yeah and it just seems like we need heroes out there yeah and and like charlie would have been
the guy yeah so um it's sad bro he's awesome um did you spend time with him no no
just followed all of this stuff yeah but like you know what he was like aiming for it though
that i think that's the problem is like i'm just a kid from ohio that's a high school dropout like
if it makes sense
at some point then it makes sense and that that that was like his job and his
purpose and all of that yeah um and i loved that but like it you know it if someone was like
this is like me becoming a world champion in boxing like it makes more sense than
jake paul becoming president charlie kirk was clearly going to be the the next president so
i think that's part of the whole
thing that right the whole energy that's out there yeah yeah yeah that's a good point that
somebody did they they there was probably people that didn't want to see that possibly occur
they didn't want to see that get to the next level or yeah there's a lot of uh investigatorial stuff
about that you know some people say that it was like a microphone on his lapel that blew up and
and that that's
That's what killed him.
And then that microphone was made here in Tennessee.
And then two weeks after that, the factory was made at blue to smithereens and like 16 people died, which is just a kind of a crazy like that's one of the wildest kind of like that's one of the most interesting theories that I've heard.
Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there these days.
And I was just with some like bros in Minnesota and they were kind of asking me about these conspiracy theories because they were like, oh, he knows more than than I do.
I think that a lot of it is fucking bullshit and people just want something to like hang on to.
I don't disagree on like certain points, but you have to be really smart and selective to.
Decipher the conspiracy theories that are out there and like realize which ones have like even a little bit of truth.
But why as a society, like, do we hang on to these so much like conspiracy theories?
Yeah, because it's like, well, we love drama as humans, basically.
Like, we just love fucking bad news and we love to like we have it.
Yes, this is a fucking problem.
It is a problem.
And so conspiracy.
Conspiracy theories give people a reason to fucking gossip and like just it's just like something to do, bro.
People are bored.
Well, I've never met a rich person who's doing dope shit in life that gives a fuck about any of this shit because they're just have better shit to do that.
That's the problem is like people need to go get a job and have a purpose and.
We're at a point, though, I think where people can't trust mainstream media.
They don't trust it.
It's it's it's heavily owned by a couple of corporations.
And so I think that created a lot of this space for like just outlier investigators, outlier people asking questions when every, you know, there's that famous thing.
This is the problem is all of it has become an entertainment product.
It's all the WWE.
I've been saying.
Exactly.
Everything is the WWE.
So.
So.
This person who's claiming to tell the truth.
Starts to dabble in like a little bit of like fun, fun, fun, because it's going to get more views.
I mean, it goes back to a lot of these people.
And you understand that.
I mean, you guys have done.
This is why I understand it.
Got it.
It's because I do this.
But.
But the difference is I'm not doing it on things that like affect the world.
And I'm not talking about missiles and Iran and fucking Israel and Charlie Kirk.
I'm like talking shit to Conor McGregor.
Right.
So I'm down to like entertain when it's in the entertainment world.
Got it.
When it's in politics, like people shouldn't fuck around.
And so like.
Yeah.
Who is telling the truth these days?
Yeah.
And I wish you think with all this technology or something, there would be able to be like a truth filter.
You could put over something on your phone.
But then I guess it would be like, what is the arbiter of the truth?
Like, it's like a lot of these like AI models now.
It's like they have information that's put into them.
So they're only going to spit out whatever is whatever, you know, like the information is controlled.
So you're only going to get answers that are based on it.
One thing that you said that I did want to say that I thought was interesting was during the Roman Empire,
a lot of the politicians also had to fight on the battlefield.
So that was one thing that I thought was really amazing about those times was like if they were going to make choices
that affected the lives of like the citizens of the military, of like the farmer who was putting down his pitchfork
and picking up a sword, like they had to be out there as leaders as well.
And I feel like that's where some of your energy comes from.
And so I think I.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I admire that.
I think it's I think it's dope.
And I agree.
Like, if I ever was running for office, I would also be like super down to have an AR-15 and fucking shoot these motherfuckers.
Out of a fucking gun and a shield.
Yeah, bro.
Like, who has that?
I'm down to die, bro.
I think I put that on the line with Anthony Joshua.
Like, I'm down for this shit, bro.
But like, you're I think you're right.
That's a really good point, actually.
Like, Trump should be on the front lines.
Or Barron.
I don't know if he's old enough yet.
He might be too tall to be out there, too.
He's using his head clip.
Bro's a big target.
He's got to stand out, bro.
And he's good looking.
And so they're going to be like, oh, yeah, that guy.
Yeah.
Get him.
This is a funny question.
If.
If.
Aliens came to Earth, which human would you want them to meet?
Only could meet one human.
What human?
Oh, I think.
I don't know if you send like a brother over there.
Probably NBA young boy.
Maybe.
Dude, I think.
Because.
I think that would just be.
Yeah.
Well, have you seen the.
You know, I was thinking.
Let's go, dude.
And welcome to America's last brain cell.
I'm Theo Vaughn and this is Jake Paul.
Oh, dude.
What about your frickin mom was trying to frickin holler at me?
Is that true?
What was happening?
Yeah, my mom.
I thought she was married.
She is.
There.
We're in a great relationship.
I love.
I love my mom.
And stepdad.
Damn.
Am I only going to get in trouble?
Is this bad?
And Derek, is that your stepdad?
Rick, Derek, David, David.
I was wondering the other day.
I was like, what is his stepdad's name?
OK, so this.
I mean, philosophically.
Philosophically, if.
A woman is in a relationship for 30 years with a normal guy.
For sure.
And then the fucking Mohawk comes out with the Ovan.
She might start flirting, bro.
When you see the Lord's parakeet.
Exactly my point.
You got to forget my mom is a fuck is the goat.
She's a life maxer.
So she's going to life max.
And.
She's pulling up.
Oh, yeah, that's who she is right there.
That's so I am, boy, bro.
Would you have done it, though?
And by done, what do you mean?
Take her out for ice cream or a film?
Yes.
Are you talking about like, what are you talking about?
I would have taken her for ice cream out.
I had a room early.
And that's why I approve of your guys.
Dude, good answer.
Politically.
I'd be a good stepdad, though, dude.
Bro, if you were my stepdad, I'd be so happy, bro.
That's all I need in life, honestly.
I would let y'all smoke.
Not in the house or something, but I would let y'all smoke.
Which kind of smoke?
Huh?
You can smoke dope.
Smoke it outside.
I don't give a shit.
As long as you don't smoke outside of our bedroom window.
Do you think my mom's hot?
Huh?
I think she's a beautiful lady.
I like her ass hot.
I don't know.
I'd have to see her again in person.
She did this.
She did this.
She did this for you, bro.
Oh, my God.
She did.
I think I have some photos of that.
Dude, your dad was right there.
I was like, what are we doing here?
You know?
That's my. No, they're divorced.
That was the. That was. Yeah, that's not her husband.
That was their. Oh.
That was my dad and mom, but they're divorced.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah, but I don't know.
I think he was like, you know, you know, I'll tell you what not to do.
You know, I think he said some stuff like that to me.
So I think there was like a mix of like energy there.
But yeah, I know.
And she's an author.
I admire that.
I know she just came out with a book, right?
Yeah.
Fuck the Paulies.
Fuck the Pauls.
Fuck the Pauls.
Yeah.
Great book, by the way, for. Fuck the Pauls.
I would say like mostly if people have an interest in like fame and navigating it, I
think it's a good book.
What effect do you think she had over the years on like, did she kind of, was she ever
like an orchestra?
Or was she just kind of like somebody who was just supporting in the distance?
Like, because it's interesting how a mom reacts to like, I think their son's journey
through popularity and like, because for a while they're just their son and then they're
kind of like a pseudo sibling or something to everybody in a way, you know?
Yeah.
Definitely like supporting from afar.
Like more recently, she's gotten more involved in like knowing who she is and
And being like, fuck you to these certain people in my life that aren't good.
So she's become more of a protector.
I think at first, me and my brother were teaching her.
And she's a very smart lady.
But I think it was such a new world for her of social media.
And so I think she always was giving her 100% best effort to help in any way possible.
And that came across in different ways.
But I think more recently, she's become more of a protector and more opinionated.
And she has more confidence in her opinions.
And I think that's been good for both Logan and I.
Do you think that you guys' careers have allowed you to see a new side of your mom that makes you have even some more unique thoughts about her?
Is that making sense?
No, 100%.
Like, admire her more?
Yeah, that's what it was, is admiring her more.
Because I was built for this and destined for it.
And you don't know if your parents are always on that same wavelength.
And I think a lot of celebrities and their parents probably don't even get along or talk or are involved.
I see a lot of that.
And it turns out that she was fucking built for this and she's ready for the fire, which is gangster.
And I was like, that's my fucking mom.
And that's my freaking wife.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No.
That's my first date.
Dude, I'm just saying, take us to an award show.
But yeah, I would take her somewhere nice.
Like what restaurant do you think?
Oh, I know where I would take her.
I'd place it as a golf course.
But we don't play golf.
We're just going to go eat there.
Nice.
Watch the rich people come in.
Oh, there's Tom.
Say shit like that.
Leonard.
Oh, yes.
He has an institutional financial estate.
Yeah.
Shut up, Leonard.
Yeah.
He has a tramp stamp on his back, too.
Don't tell anybody.
He got kind of crazy one month in the fucking Hamptons.
Oh, fucking Leonard's crazy.
Yeah.
And I would just let her drink wine.
And I wouldn't drink.
But I would smell her breath every now and then to get hit of it.
You know, just to get the fucking grapes in my nose, boy.
How much would you like huff it?
Oh, I'd take a good whiff, dude.
I would reverse boof it.
I would put a straw in her mouth and just suck the fucking wine smoke out of her fucking throat.
This is getting bad.
Dear God.
I just ordered a fucking.
What am I?
Some kind of fucking smut.
Bro, I need another whiskey blue raspberry.
Can one of you fucking get it?
For me?
Yeah, go get him one, dude.
What the fuck?
It's in the fucking refrigerator.
So.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, there's ice in the fridge.
So.
So.
Oh.
But no.
No, I think it's.
I've gotten to know her a little bit of the issues by seeing her here and there.
And I think her.
I think her energy.
And I think it's something nice when you get a chance in your life to see your mom in a
different way.
And I think.
That's what happened.
Yeah.
And I think that that's it's almost like a beautiful thing in a way you almost get to
see just to see somebody grow into something different.
At some point in their life is really special, whether that's it can be in any way.
But I think so.
So, yeah, I could really imagine that that's nice.
No, exactly.
And like a lot.
I've noticed a lot of people don't change.
Or don't know how to and evolve.
And they just like it stuck in their same patterns.
And especially when they're older, because if you've been doing something for 40 or 50
years, you're going to like.
Get stuck in that rut.
And so to like see her change and actually be able to like evolve is beautiful.
And I noticed it with my dad as well.
He's a little bit more behind, but he's doing it and he's doing the work and that's beautiful.
That's awesome, man.
I think it's cool.
Like whenever like as a child you get to be a part of something like that and see that
and like I think there's a lot of like.
Kind of like.
Growth and moments there for ourselves and our parents, you know.
Yeah, being a son is an interesting responsibility when you realize that it's not just like one
of taking in a way.
And I don't mean that it just because that's how it is when you think it's just like this
one way sort of thing.
It is like you're like until you're like conscious enough to not take from your parents, it really
is a one way relationship.
Yeah.
And it's the first one one way relationship in your life.
Do you do you do you have kids or like what's going on?
No, no wife.
I don't have any kids.
I'm not dating right now.
I'm just working on myself.
And so it's been like the last year has been kind of tough with just like just staying
on track.
And then I realized I was just kind of putting myself like in the situation like just things
that I wasn't like they weren't like all like rungs on the ladder towards my goal.
You know, some of them were fun rungs and things like that, but it just wasn't where
I needed to be.
And like some of the sobriety has been a little bit tough over the past year or so.
But right now I'm doing better than I've done in a long time.
And and so, yeah, I feel good about that.
It's hard.
It is.
I need to go.
Especially for you in like your position and all of those things like people you it's hard
to find the right person that doesn't have the wrong intentions.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm a dick.
decent judge of that kind of stuff i think um i'm enjoying kind of not having to date and do things
like that the problem is is you can't judge it until it's like time because people are good
actors these days so how did you know your girl was the right one for you i think um was it like
an experience y'all had together or like a thing being at just being at the same level like in
terms of wealth or fame or stature because then you know there's like not games so yeah you might
have to like find a famous girl i don't know i don't know but they also could like understand
like
yeah i don't
like what right like like you you go do like a waitress girl today and you're like theo's like oh
i uh had a podcast with jake paul and we talked about blackface and it was fucking insane and
it's gonna break the internet and let's see what happens and then she's just like yeah i'm a
waitress like do you want a shot like she's not gonna understand the importance of that or you
or like what right did i think yeah there could be some
that but if she goes well i know what you're gonna have the black and salmon if she said that
as a joke then i would know okay maybe this bitch is fucking she at least has a sense of humor so a
sense of humor is big for me i do think like yeah there's some things it's like um you also don't
want to add discomfort to someone's life i don't want to add like if some of my like bullshit or
the little things that i'm involved in i don't want that to mess up somebody's life if you know
like um but but that's that that that's also why
the like famous girl would be good because
i gotta she's already like balls deep i gotta meet one then i will one of these days when i get back
out there um i saw that you and you did you and your father do ayahuasca who did it yes yeah i've
been there a few times man i uh yeah okay and thank god i mean dude i'll even fucking talk to
this bitch every now and then once you've done ayahuasca dude you look at a house plant way
different you're like how are you boys this morning
10 and 2 you know bro i'm not gonna lie bro i've talked to have you talked about this adnolgium i
didn't know if you have well about what have you talked about this so much i didn't even know no no
no i know i'm saying after doing ayahuasca i like grabbed steel sometimes or like aluminum and metal
and be like talk to it because it's a living object people don't understand that metal is a living object
so that sounds fucking insane but like it's no different than a plant yeah they're they're atoms
moving around and so i i actually talk to the items in my house to like give them better energy
like let me let me boost your spirits today guys i know you're a bookshelf but you don't know what
you're holding on to you know i'm saying you've got everything you've got uh the crucible right
here on your back you've got all these freaking god you've got moby dick carrying the bible the
seven bibles you have your bridges of madison tired bro my bookshelf is tired bro yeah you've
got dunkirk on you gotta talk to it you have no clue what you're doing i like that yeah but to
boost up your fucking boys who were fucking carrying all your words around i like that i
boost up everything in my house bro where'd you guys where'd you guys do it at did somebody come
to you i've done it like a bunch of times okay um mostly costa rica
oh
and did your wife go too yes wow yeah there's a video and
oh yeah oh yeah dude you got the fancy one i did it right outside of a popeyes over there off the
101 you just did it here no off the 101 in la you're a neighborhood you can't do that bro you
gotta like dude the shit was popping but it was good it was good it was popping okay okay what
was like the biggest thing you took away from it then like oh dude i like i remember i mean you
went like a deep thing yeah i there was a point like um i remembered this feeling that i had when
i was a kid that maybe if i was a like um if i was a girl that uh i would my parents would love
me more that that so i was like there was like this weird like like just questioning of who i
was or something um i remember that that was like a crazy thought that i had when i was a kid
um i mean that that's like a comparable thing which goes back to like
then that they probably probably made you feel compared or some weird shit like i don't know
how to psychoanalyze all of that no but it was something yeah i just thought like maybe uh like
they don't see me as i am so maybe it was just a thought that as a kid well maybe if i was a girl
they would see me it was just but that's kind of a crazy thought that a kid would have and it sucks
yeah so things like that and you kind of process those like you know you process for like a kid
feeling those things yep um i think the biggest one for me was uh self-love what it was like
just like putting the mirror up of like look at yourself and how come you don't love yourself
sometimes and in a lot of moments i do
um but i think that trickles out into a lot of other areas of life where um
it can not be good um like where it turns into like like between where it turns into ego or
where it turns into that kind of stuff exactly yeah it's scary yep and just like
yeah just like even insecurity is a part of self-love
and so i've actually like really worked on it and gotten so much better at it and i i feel secure now
um but i came from a place of of insecurity but it takes practice to to get there um
and to find that confidence and that love and to know who you are and not give a what
anyone thinks because i also was like judged and in public scrutiny and
all of these things since i was like 19 so i think that was the biggest thing was was self-love
yeah dude i think it's funny we were talking about this the other day in a meeting and thanks for
sharing that with me um we're talking about did your dad say any wild shit while he was in there
was he in there capping he was uh bro he's like her name was janet was he just yelling in
there or whatever bro i literally had to because that's great bro to sit there with your with a one
of the people that created you and to be on that journey that seems wild to me was it like that or
was it not like that it just seemed like it wasn't it wasn't i had to um i realized that the like
sweetest thing about my father is that he's a protector and he's a fucking warrior and
he was so high off of ayahuasca that he was like trying to like figure out where his um fiance was
and like protect her and he thought that like people were like trying to attack her
and there was no one there and he was just like i need to get i need to protect i need to do this i
need to do this so um he's like installing security systems literally he was he turned
into secret service um but there he is right there yeah there he is drinking soup through his head
walking out of his dome bro so it's really interesting though like get a spoon honky
sorry that's my mom driving by just telling me to brush my teeth
um so so was his mind blown if he'd never done anything like that
all right so um he had a stroke before this and um before ayahuasca and um
i've always been into psychedelics because i'm in the
sport where you get fucking hit in the head and there's science around mushrooms creating
neurogenesis as as well as uh toad five five m-e-o-d-m-t yeah i'm friends with brian johnson
i was just he just did it yeah i i like relate to him that sense i've done it like 10 times um and so
uh i basically like told
him at some point to do it as a science thing um and
these things are like actual magic in the world and um people don't understand their significance
and how profound they are and how much healing can be done and when you talk to these people from the
cenarion tribe who are like masters in the toad and that's where they like originated it um
it cures parkinson's alzheimer's all of these things the list goes on and on and on um and
it's actually like shielded from
the there's a reason why it's illegal
in the united states because of big pharma yeah and et cetera the karma sucks dude we can go
down that rabbit hole but well there's a lot they're trying to pass a law right now and uh
that they're allowing ibogaine in um in tennessee and uh and they need to pass it they it's something
all these all these plant medicines need to be they need to be approved 100 now people don't
need to be buying them out of a fucking like a one of those like skill crane machines or something
like that at a pizza hut or whatever you know but but but but it's fucking wild that
you could just go to any local place here five minutes away and get fucking double moscow mule
yeah but you can't do something that's actually good for you what does that say about
our leaders about pharma about insurance all of these things so and there's there's
no one's ever fucking done toad or mushrooms and like
done something bad yeah but you've seen hundreds of times where the alcoholic is
shooting up a place and killing people and beating his wife so like what the
fuck are we doing as a society it's it's ass backwards it's sad um
and i agree i mean i just yeah i think it's awesome that you are such a proponent of that man
because that's a big thing that's going on right now i think when is that build can you
look that up for me the helping open pathways to effective treatment act hb 2075 is under
consideration in the 2025-2026 legislative session the bill would not legalize obligate for general
use instead it would create a state framework for fda supervised clinical trials targeting opioid
use disorder co-occurring substance disorders ptsd and related brain injury conditions funded via a
public-private matching grant structure i'm a proponent of that are you a thousand percent
amen there you heard that um fucking vote let's fucking vote vote for toad that's it bro we love
frogs um and toads did your relationship with your dad change after or no or was it just kind
of another okay so that i mean so um there's like a really interesting thing that happened to him um
when you know the like ayahuasca experts they've like seen everything and my dad had a stroke and
you could viscerally see a difference in how he talked and acted he like wasn't there it was like
lights on no one's home like 60 not full on but it was sad and i was like yo like
talk to a bunch of people blah blah let's do ayahuasca so um he basically
did it and what the shamans were saying was and what they could feel they're experts at this shit
by the way and it's not bullshit they don't give a fuck bro like they live in the middle of the
fucking jungle in fucking peru they were just like i could tell his spirit
was cut and his during this experience his spirit came back to him and hell yeah
like since that day he's just been normal again no way
yeah so no noticeably everyone notices it and everyone was worried before it like
they were like yo like he's kind of i don't want to use the r word right because i would never say
or fact but like i don't say it no me either i'll spray paint it on your wall i'll never say it
yeah but i'm not saying in it but he was like low-key retarded and well that's not even yeah
that's fine it brought him back so yeah and imagine that dude imagine you just somebody
rolls into like a learning disabled class which i was in and i was in yeah i was in there for
not a long time but i did a little bit of time in there and imagine somebody rolls in there one day
and the next day that classroom opens up and kids could be here
i think there's a lot of healing in this stuff related psychedelic evidence right there on this
is on perplexity uh dmt ayahuasca's key active component is under phase one trials for stroke
safety and recovery potential with pre-clinical data indicating brain healing via neuroplasticity
wow so so this is science right and there's a big problem with science and yes it's that
everything is like documented and like experimented
and like measure measure measure and there's a good side of that but
bro these fucking people have been doing psychedelics for thousands of years and have
reported studies human to human they're not fucking scientists but they have the
human to human conversation of like yo this actually worked right um and so that's not
going to be on fucking yeah perplexity well it's not something
we're doing or in a lab we're in fucking kids who's fucking doing all this shit you know we're
talking about real yeah people that are in the woods who have been doing they know what's going
on exactly it's crazy how we've gotten so far away from like all this bullshit like how we got so far
away from all these like real healing methods that have been alive for thousands of years
and then we got into this just like bear monsanto fucking bullshit where we're all just addicted to
stuff and it's ruining people's lives and then now we're getting back out of that i feel like
we're getting back out of that faster than ever though
do you feel that yeah i think i think i do i do i do and because we trusted our government we
trusted that these eat that the epa and fda all these things were taken care of us we
but now it's like fuck they're making us sick there's a health care that doesn't want to take
care of it's like it's it's it's been a it's been a road yes and like the best thing is that um
um social media removed the
barrier
barriers for information knowledge um and anyone can say whatever they want and
i find that the truth is like
it i don't find i know that the truth is like resonating more so people like understand more
about health psychedelics yeah peptides love relationships authenticity there's a reason
why i'm saying that because i don't know why i'm saying that because i don't know why i'm saying
why like certain celebrities are like falling off is because they're just like oh you're fake as
fuck we don't like you um so i think it's a good thing it's a great thing um and it almost goes
back to like freedom of speech but like imagine freedom of speech with marketing behind it
hmm
yeah i think it's like um i do i you can hope that
we're in a new revolution of some sort you know that's always a nice hope to have i find
um dude let's talk about some of these fights dude uh who had the dumbest trunks on that you
thought you thought you're like this fucking i'm knocking this guy out just because of the trunk
was there anybody is this like i can't
i'm not gonna lie bro like ben askren
i fucking love the guy i donated to his double lung surgery but like bro he just doesn't have
any steez hmm yeah he's the most like vanilla like dumb ass white guy who just like got told
what to wear bro it's i don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo but like bro
he looks like a fucking idiot he just wore kind of like um trunks from the um
yeah i don't even remember it until you pulled up this photo but like bro he looks like a fucking idiot
like you literally just like found him at a local store yeah it's he always had this there was always
an energy during that where it seemed like he'd just kind of woken up earlier you know um and
blessings to him he's doing much better now um dude so what about uh mvp you guys have hosts
you guys have um promoted like 30 fights now okay you're you're teaching me this information
okay thank you um how has that been as a promoter how has it been different than you thought it
would be what's been like what if what is some of the energy going on with that um yeah like we came
into the game and um this was like i saw boxing as like taxi and we were uber um and it was just
like so obvious and we operate as like a startup
and me and my business partner don't need money who g will
i just think it's funny no this is nakisa okay sorry he's from iran um
do you jeff's gonna love this shit he's gonna watch it and be like oh fuck yeah
you don't want it yo that's good jeff i think you should change your instagram
um so me and nakisa have money from other shit and don't need to do it and that's why
our motto is always like fighter first and um
that's that's actually like very important so when you start there where you like fighter first and
operate as a startup we like instantly took over and resonated with fighters and are clearly the
best to work with and we're like we're gonna do this we're gonna do this we're gonna do this we're
gonna work with and make our fighters the most amount of money and give them the highest
percentage of the fights etc um but on top of that if you like just want to talk analytics
like coming into the game i have a hundred million followers or something like that
wow and the second biggest promoter is dana white with like 30 so i'm like three times
bigger than him is that y'all's biggest competition then is it uh is there another
boxing well i guess there's zufa there's zufa's new yeah they just started and they're already
making like a lot of mistakes and are are quite quite basic um and yeah like you don't want to
pay connor ben 15 million dollars to do an easy ass fight against regis um
right off rip because your whole ufc model is paying fighters like one-third of that max and
do you think it sets a tough precedent for them exactly they already fucked up like bad
um maybe if they were to like buy us or partner with us they would like have
better outcome which i truly believe could you see a world where your partner i'm i'm open to it
yeah yeah buy us like we'll help you guys not be idiots um you you you would the amount of money
you would spend like i don't have an ego bro i'll work with anybody but dane is a very smart guy i
mean he's not smart enough what makes you say that just look at what he's doing like you don't you
not pay your fighters bro you like you don't get john jones on the white house card first of all
justin gaethje is gonna lose to ilia on the white house card so you have a spaniard beating a white
american on the patriotic white house card like okay big mistake first of all second of all why
are you not gonna pay john jones
do you think it was a financial thing with him or bro this is like one of the most profitable
sports organizations in history their their investors have gotten greedy they're in control
they um they are looking at the pnls and being like yo like we can just keep pumping this shit
and they're not they're not they forgot their heart as a company that's the problem and so
um it's it's dying and also and then
MMA is not like a – I'm always going to speak the truth,
and I'm partners with Netflix on an MMA event.
Well, I know you guys have that event coming up.
But MMA hasn't stood the test of time because the best people in the sport
become wrestlers, and they just like hold on.
What do you mean?
Like CM Punk, you mean?
There's a lot of great fighters in the –
No, Khabib, Cosma, like all these people.
Oh, they become wrestlers.
I see like round game guys.
Exactly.
Not like WWE guys.
Which is boring.
No one wants to watch that.
There is a level of –
So it hasn't stood the test of time.
Yeah.
Boxing has been around since the 1500s.
MMA is 30 years, and it's declining.
And also because it's not ran properly,
and they're becoming greedy and it's like a super corporate organization uh where they're
signed with paramount they have stockholders it's a part of the wwe aria manual public company
blah blah blah so when they're paying fighters like 15 of the revenue by the way down to 10
the investors are going to be like yeah we're going to make more money is it money 10 do they
change it it's it's going down so you're just you're assuming that it is the nfl pays their
athletes 50 of the revenue got it so if the nfl makes a billion dollars the athletes make 500
million got it in the ufc it's 150 million out of a billion but when you exclude conor mcgregor
and john jones from that it becomes like five zero
like five percent 50 million out of a billion because they make less you mean the overall
gross is less so then the percentage is less yeah because that number factors in the super fights
where um i am a ufc fan and i've just enjoyed being associated there i have so much fun over
there it's such an interesting thing i'm you know some of the business side i don't know about but
i it does feel like here's what i hear people say the cards have gotten uh not as interesting
right because there's more cards but you also hear people say that um
like my sponsor was saying this morning he's saying dude i love that i can just turn on paramount
and that the ufc is on there every week so i think there's like you know there's different
avenues to go down with it and i think that sport is paramount like who has that do you have one
i don't know yes exactly yes i don't know if i do that's what i'm saying yeah i might i probably do
i don't i i think i think i have one but like i don't know that's how it is yeah that's what i
mean so but i didn't like if they were like gunned ahead gonna shoot you
probably gonna figure out
that's true so that's fucking bro that's a great game show dude
log in death.com
all right today we fucking something you pull him in blindfolded he's like
motherfucker you got 30 seconds to get into spotify premium everyone would die
he gets to call his wife you get one call but that person can't look it up
um you bitch i know we just thought you knew this honey damn it stephanie you're the one that
what is it you're the one wizard 60 what is it you guys are co-promoting the new
mma card that's on netflix yeah so that's the whole thing is like
bro why are you laughing bro look at this is this is crazy though bro was there another
opportunity for
you to do something like that i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
to fight someone else i mean i know that lens is kind of a new uh name to a lot of people
yeah but he he's he's um uh very fucking good it's it's a more dangerous fight for him than um
who do we have as the other opponent it should be gunner versus damn bigfoot if i could find him
um people would watch that shit we had a we had a i forget who the
fuck it was we had a different name um who was a bigger name and easier fight for him so
as francis is you know we joke around and fight blah blah marketing but like respect to him for
for doing this and um it's a very challenging fight so it's gonna be fun and and diaz versus
perry like it's just gangster gangster bro we
just had uh actually nate diaz on this is before we knew that you were coming on and he was on like
it hasn't even come out yet but he did talk about this something um pull up the clip that he had
talked about he talked about some of the fight fights between us yeah we talked about a couple
of things here let me see what we got in here i'm not fighting for mvp i'm fighting for netflix
and i'm fighting from real fight incorporated which i'll probably be doing next with netflix
anyway real fight incorporated and i'm fighting for netflix and i'm fighting for real fight
entertainment on a thing and show you how to throw a real uh mma fight show i've been in the
for 20 years now so i'm like yo i'm gonna do that from real fighting with you know i'm not working
for a fucking mvp like all these other motherfuckers are i'm a ufc fighter i'm working for me for real
fighting and i'm hunting jake paul's motherfucking ass not taking a fight with a guy who's on the
comeback me and fuck connor will fight again when the time is right and it's time to fight
but it's gonna be when we both on the uprise not not when someone's dying out the whole fighting
even like paul i feel like i beat ball a lot of people felt that way but it was his like big show
so it's like okay all right but i know i know from experience i ain't winning no decisions even if i
do so watch that fight over and read the punch count in your own count without somebody else's
i will not fight too what do you think about that fight and what do you think about it
what do you think there jake and that was nate
um yeah no i i never say the word i think it's like super offensive um i would never say it um
when you see someone that's like it's just hard to like comprehend what they're saying
and um i'm gonna take like a business higher level i'm gonna take the high road okay because
he technically is working for my company and he's trying to deny it in that clip
um and i'll just leave it there because i don't care about that i want mma to grow
But yes, technically, he's literally lying.
I don't work for him.
Okay.
That's fine, bro.
Whatever your ego wants, I'll bend down to it for now because MMA is going to prosper.
And you, Nate, should just not lie.
And yeah, fuck.
Do you think he's lying about the part about him thinking that he won?
Oh, that's – I don't address stupidity.
Like that's the most bizarre part about it.
But like I don't have time to address stupidity.
Because then you give it more momentum.
Maybe I'll do it just this way.
Just one time.
But like the judges said I won every single round.
So if it was like a close fight, that would be a different combo.
But this guy was like easy work, lightest puncher I've ever fought.
Is that true?
You're just saying that.
On my mom's life, rest in peace, strike her down, God.
Nate Diaz is the lightest and worst puncher I've ever fought.
He's the toughest.
And he took the most damage.
But in a sport, that's not something to brag about.
Like I'm the toughest.
Bro, people come up to me and they're like, you're so tough.
You took shots from Joshua.
I was like, I don't want to be complimented like this.
Right.
I don't want to be tough.
That means you're just getting beat up.
Yeah, yeah.
Like the fuck?
Yeah, that's a good point, dude.
Bro, any boxer who's tough sucks.
No, I'm joking.
But like my coaches told me this early on.
They're like, this is not a tough sport.
This is a mental sport.
Do you feel like you owe Nate or one of the other UFC guys an MMA bout?
Does any of that weigh on you sometimes?
Yeah, yeah.
I want Nate in MMA.
And I think it's high on my list of priorities.
to do that and what's the toughest like kind of uh like barrier to entry to getting that done is
it just the time it would take to get more prolific in some of that ground game and stuff
in in jujitsu no no it's just the business side got it um he probably wants a certain amount of
money to take the risk in losing to me um and yeah i just don't give a fuck i have enough money
i got all my shit so um that that's why these guys are actual ducks is because you can't like
hide behind money anymore um so yeah i i think i think it's gonna happen though and and it's
if if he
beats perry then me versus nate is probably the number one thing on the list like above
tommy fury above francis and ganu above ksi do you think he could beat perry i think he will
yeah i think i'll take him down and submit him
what do you think that's such a dog fight dude
mike perry's first of all the funny they're two of like really the most beloved outlier guys that
like um they're just such both unique guys and they kind of like they do things their own way
i mean i'm just i'm trying to evade the question uh what's the program you have with the charity
it's the program for the it's for like uh parents parents of autistic children giving them like a
day off yeah
so like that that's why this fight is awesome is like their parents are both gonna get hella days
yeah yeah i mean i don't see it but yeah um yeah so you think they're smart like you you would
classify nate diaz and and mike perry as smart i think and by the way that's secluded from autism
okay like autistic people are smartest people in the world but like i'm just obviously joking but
i think you think they're fucking smart i think they got the toughest fucking autism that there
exists yeah yeah i wish i had that touch gloves to some you know that's what i wanted
um if they were starting a company would you invest in it that's crazy bro that's a crazy
thing to ask somebody and during the daytime i'm pretty sure it's like six i think it's
dude uh i would it depends on what kind of business it was i think oh yeah if it were like a dog
catching business fuck yeah bro or brain rejuvenation yeah yeah dude i think but yeah
if it's like yeah doing taxes and shit nah nah nah nah now it's just fine yeah if it's just
fucking if it's fucking getting your money back from somebody down the street
business then take my money fella you got it i'm in dude um there's a female
we gotta get no no no we don't we don't we do dude no bro you know how much you know how many
clips we've pumped out of this shit we're gonna be on twitter for like nine days straight
it's fucking ridiculous dude god i gotta get some fucking help that's the number one
thing i say to myself every day dude is i gotta get some help um rousey carano what do you feel
about this bout dude carano's been out for a while yeah i think um was it tough to make that the lead
bout was there a purpose in that like a reason behind it yeah we're we're like proponents for
for women mostly like putting them on the forefront um and i genuinely like believe that
so entertaining um they're shorter rounds and they just like fucking go at each other and i think
they have a chip on their shoulder so it becomes more entertaining than like a 12 round floyd
versus de la jolla where they're just like fucking tapping each other for 12 rounds and
everyone's disappointed um so yeah that was that was part of the purpose and um and that's mvpw that
was part of the purpose and um and that's mvpw that was part of the purpose and um and that's
part of a group you guys launched yeah we yeah so my comedy's mvp uh and then and then we have mvpw
which is like women's um that that side of things and were you searching for your fighters how were
you going to populate this to have good bouts like has that become a concern because a lot of
All the best women signed to us.
For boxing?
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, now MMA, I guess, as well.
Like, starting in MMA, but mostly boxing.
The beautiful thing about it is that we can make the megafights happen
because we know both sides of the party.
But will they be able to fight in UFC?
Will people under your banner be able to fight in UFC or Netflix's thing
if they keep this going, or are they separate?
No, no, no, no.
Yeah, we're, like, completely separate from the UFC.
Got it.
And a competitor.
So it's actually, like, UFC's with Paramount,
MVP's with Netflix.
Okay, I got it now.
Yeah.
Dang, dude.
That's wild, bro.
Congratulations, man.
Yeah, thank you.
Congratulations, dude.
It's, you know, like, watching you is an interesting sport.
You know?
And I mean that in a lot of, like, really. So it, like, increases your heart rate to watch me?
Probably does, which is okay.
It's a sport.
I mean, it's just, like, you know, yeah, like, it's. There's admiration because you, you know, you kind of. You defy the odds, or you re. You kind of, like, I don't know, you. I don't know what it is.
It's interesting.
And it's fun.
And it's interesting to see a guy who's fighting
and is also in the business side, I think.
There's just a lot of stuff to see.
To be a business guy is. It's all interesting, dude.
It's judgmental.
No, I would. I would agree.
And I think I wrote, like, a little stupid fucking thing
to put on my Instagram.
Yeah.
That I think can, like, summarize me a little bit.
I think it's, like, super fucking gay to talk about it, but. You want me to read it?
Like, we might not put this part in.
Okay.
But, like. It kind of summarizes what you're saying.
Okay.
So. Life became unrelatable, so it's easy to become hateable.
I live in truth, so my views are undebatable.
Life's become approvals and payables.
Funny how I was the only one who knew I was capable.
Now anything in life is available.
Only because I became unbreakable.
Once in a generation beyond occasion, I became unbreakable.
Once in a generation beyond occasional, send all the pressure, please.
God is protecting me.
I'm gravitational.
I hope you don't hate and use it as motivational.
But honestly, this shit is not sustainable or very attainable.
Have to manage it with Ivy League.
Occupational.
Horrid lady over there.
I post more content than you, but I'm still untraceable.
I hate to be cocky, but at this point, it's educational.
This is who the fuck I am.
It's not recreational.
You probably could, but if we're being honest, you are not capable.
So again, that's why I'm hateable.
Is he a politician, investor, rapper, boxer?
It's unexplainable, and that's why I'm inescapable.
So I think that's like what?
Dude, I fucking really like that.
I think.
And you know what?
Yes.
That's what I was trying to say.
Yeah.
And it is.
And it is, man.
And you know the sad part about it is that like people are going to like clip that.
Fuck them.
But that's why I'm saying it's like sad that they're going to clip it and be like,
bro, thought he cooked.
No, we're not saying that you are.
What's that guy's called?
Ghana or whatever.
We're just saying that you.
I.
That you explained exactly what I was thinking.
And that's.
Yeah.
And I agree.
That's why.
That's why I brought it up.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have.
But.
But.
But the sad part is that people are going to clip it and be like.
But people are also freaking touching their own dicks all the time.
So people are disgusting.
You don't touch your own dick.
Jerking off is gay, dude.
You're jerking a dude off.
Yeah, it's you.
But it's still a dude, bro.
Fuck that.
Now some chick rolls up with a cock.
Maybe I'll help her out.
You feel me?
BLM, dude.
So you love Thailand?
Never, man.
I haven't even looked at it.
I haven't even gone there on one of those map zoom in views,
like street views or whatever.
Your brother just had a child.
Do you get competitive with him?
Do you start to think about that yet?
Or you guys aren't really kicking that can around at the moment?
Because once wife got that gold, bro, you know what I'm saying?
You could hatch something.
And sorry, that's just something I read recently on a headstone in Memphis.
So I was just like.
Hatch something?
Yeah, once wife got that gold, you could hatch something.
You know, that's just like.
Oh, damn.
Someone else's wife got a gold?
I don't know.
It's pretty rare.
No, I just mean somebody might have got a gold grill put in or something.
It could mean anything.
I've read it.
Yeah.
You're right.
No, it's inspiring.
Yeah.
It's so inspiring.
Has it inspired you?
Has it been interesting to see him be a dad?
Like, is that different?
He's a fucking loser now.
It's so funny.
Look at him, bro.
You go to bed at 10 p.m.
Like, he used to be cool and like kick it.
Yeah.
And like drink and smoke with us.
And then he just like goes to bed at 10 p.m.
But honestly, bro, I'm so happy for him.
Like, this is what's needed.
Like, he's amazing.
And he's a great dad.
It's just like funny because.
And again, I would never use the word, the R word.
But like when he's walking down the beach with his kid.
And I'm like, bro, this is my brother.
Like, he's fucking retarded.
And he's like carrying the baby.
Down the fucking beach.
And he like got it on his shoulder.
I'm like, bro, what the fuck is going on?
It's just, it's just funny.
But I'm so happy for him.
And Esme is like the coolest thing in the world.
And yeah, she's like 18 months.
And I like went to hang out with her the other day.
And like, we don't see each other a lot because we're always busy.
Hogan's traveling.
We like, whatever.
But she's looking at me.
And I'm like saying hi to her.
And she goes, Jake.
And she says my name for the first time.
I was like, bro, game over.
That's cool.
I was like, I started like getting teary eyed.
And like, it's just the craziest thing ever.
Has it brought your family overall closer together?
Yeah, 100%.
Isn't that amazing?
Yeah.
It's crazy how something like that, when we first had my first niece,
it was like the first time we were a family, it felt like, in some ways.
Yeah, I would agree.
I think.
And Nina, by the way, is such a great mom.
She's doing such a great job.
And she like sends videos and pictures to us every day.
Oh, that's sweet of her.
And so, like, shout out to Nina.
For fucking being amazing on that set of things.
Yeah, it's nice.
It keeps you involved.
Makes you feel like a part of it.
That's important.
Yep.
And they do this thing where it's like outfit of the day.
And like, Esme like loves it.
And she like knows, even though she can't talk really.
She like puts on her outfit.
And then Nina like films her coming out of the room with the outfit.
And like hypes her up.
And then Esme like loves it.
And is like, she like knows that it's like some important moment.
So it's really fucking beautiful.
Like little shit like that.
Yeah.
Stuff like that.
Yeah.
Stuff like that that makes you feel kind of connected.
It's awesome.
Shout out to Nina.
That's beautiful.
And congratulations to them.
It is exciting.
That baby looks so happy, huh?
Happiest baby ever, I think.
Really?
Bro.
That's the blessing.
I get these videos every day.
And she's just like happiness maxing.
Dude, when you get some cap ass baby, that shit's fucking trash.
Honestly, like that's the problem is you can't return it.
I know.
You got to fucking remodel that bitch.
There's no coupon.
Put some fucking Fendi on that bitch or something.
You got to do something, bro.
Because they got some cap ass children out there.
They got to redo the genetics type shit.
Blessings to them.
Man, Jake.
Thanks for coming and hanging out, dude.
Yep.
I appreciate it, bro.
I've just enjoyed getting to talk to you.
This is the most you and I have ever talked.
And I think it's like, yeah, you just get a different concept to people.
It's hard to know people until you talk to them.
Dude, Brian Johnson.
I thought that that guy was going to be like, he was going to show up like in bubble wrap
or something.
Fucking drinking his own cum or something.
Bro, bro.
Sorry.
You know he's had a little.
Wait, bro.
By the way.
What I'm saying is, dude, he was a cool.
He was like, just as it just like.
It's just interesting until you get to know somebody.
You're right.
We live in this place where we assume things based on what we see.
It's all.
It's all interesting.
And some of it's our.
Some of it's our fault.
And some of it is a place of where we are.
It's interesting, though.
You know, I killed him.
The other day.
Did you really?
Yeah, I killed him.
He'll be back.
Oh, you put him to sleep.
Wow.
He's supposed to go to bed at 430.
P.M.
Anyway, I killed him.
Hell, yeah, bro.
This dude is up for anything, bro.
No, no, no.
Like, he's dead.
Oh, damn.
OK.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
So, like, I kind of fucked up the don't die movement.
But, like, he's he's such a great guy.
But I had to kill him.
Hey, bro.
I kind of feel ya.
You know, he is that neighbor that's out in the front yard fucking boiling his own blood.
I love that guy.
He's a genius.
But, like, bro, I'm Jake Paul.
I had to go viral.
Oh, yeah, bro.
So I had to kill him.
Dude.
Yeah.
It's for the game.
Yeah.
See that shit for sure, dude.
R.I.P.
Brian Johnson, bro.
Yeah.
See you at the crossroads, homie gang.
Thanks, Jake.
Now, I'm just floating on the breeze.
And I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
I must be cornerstone.
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
I can feel it in my bones.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The Lemonati has long dominated the industry by promoting lemon over lime, influencing everything from soda to music.
7UP is now countering this with a new lime-lemon soda, symbolizing a shift in the industry’s balance.
Jake Paul, a content creator, entrepreneur, and boxer, is discussed as a multifaceted figure with political aspirations.
The conversation touches on societal issues like misinformation, conspiracy theories, and the commercialization of truth in media.
Personal stories and experiences, like witnessing an Olympic victory and meeting Jeff Bezos, highlight the human and emotional elements behind public personas.
There’s growing concern about the role of entertainment, addiction, and social media in shaping public perception and reality.
The discussion emphasizes the need for personal accountability, truth-telling, and self-reflection in the face of criticism.
A recurring theme is the idea of authenticity—especially in comedy, politics, and personal growth—as a counter to manufactured narratives.
Summary:
The transcript explores a blend of satire, personal anecdotes, and social commentary centered around media influence, truth, and identity. It begins with a critique of the "Lemonati" — a symbolic force that has long prioritized lemon over lime in pop culture — and introduces 7UP’s new lime-lemon soda as a counter-movement. The conversation then shifts to Jake Paul, portrayed as a renaissance man with ventures in content creation, boxing, and potential political ambition.
Throughout, themes of authenticity, truth, and personal responsibility emerge, especially in discussions about misinformation, conspiracy theories, and the commodification of reality. The hosts reflect on human behavior — such as the absurdity of blackface, the influence of social media, and the emotional weight of personal milestones like Olympic victories. These moments are interwoven with humor and self-deprecation, revealing a deep curiosity about how people navigate identity and perception in a saturated, entertainment-driven world.
The discussion also touches on societal issues like addiction, political ambition, and the role of truth in public discourse, concluding with a call for personal integrity and self-awareness amid the chaos of modern culture. Ultimately, the piece presents a raw, humorous, and reflective look at how individuals — especially those in the public eye — balance entertainment, truth, and personal growth.
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The Lemonati is a shadowy organization that has promoted lemon over lime for decades, influencing products and culture. This is seen as a form of 'lemon propaganda' that has shaped everything from sodas to music.
7UP is fighting back with a new lime-lemon soda that flips the traditional lemon-forward formula, symbolically 'flipping the sip' to challenge the long-standing dominance of lemon.
It represents a bold shift in consumer culture, signaling a move from lemon-centric to lime-forward products, as a direct challenge to the historical dominance of lemon in beverages and media.
Jake Paul is a co-creator and co-star of the movie 'Busboys,' which he made with David Spade. The film is a self-produced project that they are excited to release in theaters on April 17th.
Jake mentioned difficulties in getting the film into theaters, as well as the responsibility of managing every aspect of the project, which required constant involvement and personal effort.
Jake Paul has expressed interest in political aspirations, possibly running for office, and has mentioned wanting to serve society by helping others and contributing to public good.
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