Vince Vaughan reflects on his life journey, from childhood antics like hiding money in the yard and playing with vintage toys to making thoughtful financial decisions through real estate investments. He shares how his instincts about neighborhoods guided his real estate choices, creating a stable, tangible income stream. Early memories of imagination and fear in the basement illustrate how creativity shapes personal experiences—both exciting and unsettling. He discusses the evolution of stand-up comedy, noting how it has become more politically divisive and self-important, losing some of its inclusive, playful spirit. Vince emphasizes personal growth, especially in parenting and relationships, where he values emotional authenticity over ideological alignment. He recalls joyful childhood moments, like playing hide-and-seek or riding bikes with friends, which reinforced his sense of community and connection. His new movie, *Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice*, is a stylized sci-fi comedy where he plays two distinct characters, a creative challenge he found both fun and meaningful. Through these experiences, he underscores the importance of self-awareness, community, and balance—both in personal life and in the evolving world of comedy.
Austin Texas. I'll be doing a show there April 1st. That's coming up soon at ACL live at the Moody Theater. And I'm just prepping my material for my Netflix taping and so be grateful to be down there. To be one of the last times to see the Return of the Ratt Tour. Tickets are on sale now at TheoVon.com/tour if you can make it. Thank you for your support. Today's guest is an actor. He's known for just being that figure, that humor man, wedding crashers, swingers, dodgeball, Rudy. And the list goes on. His new movie Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice is on Hulu this Friday, March 27th at a great time with today's guest, Mr. Vince Vaughan. So do you have a place there? Yeah, cool. I actually mean thinking about moving recently. That's cool. I'm kind of excited. I'm kind of scared. I'm always scared. Well, when you make a new purchase, I don't like to spend any money on anything. I just like to kind of keep it somewhere. But you also feel like-- Until the devil takes it or what happens. Yeah, right. And you also feel sometimes I think like this is, you know, you kind of know what you have and how that works. And now how does this change your spending and what you're doing? Because you always feel like, well, gosh, what happens if it goes away, you know? One of my friends said something to me the other day about buying a house. He goes, well, you could invest it in the stock market or you could invest it in a home. He's like, you can't live in the stock market. And that was kind of interesting to me because I was like, oh, yeah, well, at least if you put your money into a home, then if it's going up, then you're living in it while you have it. That's right. I mean, there's ways to look at it because I kind of looked at it because I never was educated in any of it. So as I made money, I started to figure it out more. But I started to look at stuff like what makes me money every month and then what costs you money every month. And so a house is kind of both because you have your property taxes, yeah, especially here. And you also have your mortgage if you do and the stuff that goes with it, but it can go up and value as well. So I started buying rental properties that I could rent out for that reason because it was tangible. And I could make money every month off it. The market I never studied it. But I guess if you do the S&P, I mean, I never spent my energy on that. But a house I'm like, this neighborhood's nice, I think it's going up. Okay. I'll buy something here. Like trusting your instincts about that. Yeah. Because you're more exposed to it. Yeah. That's true. You're driving through it or something. You're seeing things. Yeah. Yeah. Like the old thing was like this neighborhood's not this. These neighborhoods are good. Now this one's not. Okay. I'll buy there. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, then you got to balance it with what you enjoy in your life. You want to be happy where you're at. Yeah. You want to get to like, I don't know. I always, like, I never really want to invest in myself. I'm just like a saver. I remember I would save my money. I would bury my money in the yard. I was that kind of it. I would go to people's homes and hide it. Good fucking pirate. Oh, shit. You got to fucking treasure. I'm not even joking. They had these like crown royal bags. And I was a kid and it was like the purple one with the gold. I remember those. And I would put my money in there. And I would hide it in different places. I would hide it at friends who had better security in their homes. I would hide. Did they know? No, they had no idea. I would hide it there. That's right. Dude, we would steal people's silverware movements. They're asking us like, we were doing like this little things. We'd seem like home alone. This is Jones. That kid and shit. Dude, if you find out it's not silver later, for sure, go to the pawn shop and argue with somebody. It's sterling silver. You should ever go try to dig it up and couldn't find it. Oh, no. That's good. I always knew exactly where it was. That's good. You know, I would check on it. That kind of stuff. I was a big barrier like bearing stuff to make sure that it was okay. My grandparents had a basement growing up. And so I think that kind of added some mystery. Basements always added mystery. Big time. In the scary. Yeah, do you have a basement or no? I did. I went to everyone left the house. I was home by myself. I thought I'm going to watch a horror movie in the basement because that was double scary. And I turned off all the lights in the house because I really wanted the experience. I wasn't good at watching horror. I would get pressured and I do it and I play it cool. But then I was fucking terrified. I didn't like my imagination was too strong. And I remember I turned this thing on and I was watching. It was the evil dead. You ever see the evil? And I was like, that's fucking it. I got to a point where I had enough. And so I got up to run to get the lights. But I hit a pole. And I went down and then your mind's really playing tricks like this is it. It's coming in. But I kind of crawled, got my lights on, turned off the movie. I turned on every light in the house. But yeah, basements are, well, they're a magical place because they can't be a place of discovery too. Right? I mean, good and bad happens in a basement. Oh, yeah. Well, I think they had like those the seller doors when you realized that like, I never put it together for the first like few times. Those are my grandparents. It was just a basement. And then it was these outside weird doors that. And then like the seller, like, well, you had that little light come in and you knew you were underground. Like the outside had a little whole area. Well, they had like these. Like did you all have some of those? Yeah, yeah. So those, the fact that those doors would open up and go down in that little staircase. Yeah, my grandparents had a garden. They lived. They grew up in Illinois and so they had a garden outside of Peoria. There's a small town out there. Yeah. So yeah, from the area. You're from the area. Well, I grew up. My family originally was, you know, Virginia, my dad's side and then Kentucky, but ended up in Ohio. And then my dad was a salesman. So we ended up in Illinois. Yeah. Oh, nice. What did he sell? Toys. No, super cool. Yeah, he just had toys run the house a lot. Yeah, he had a lot of toys. He'd give me like samples and stuff. So they samples were the best. If your parent was someone kind of ahead, right? Yeah. I mean, you had a bunch of something. You know, it was weird, like I had one friend is that old Oakley sunglasses. So he fucking would have like three pairs of Oakley's on like craze. Yeah, what kind of toys you'll have just kind of milling around. He became a manufacturer's rep. He did well. He was the first to go to college in his family. And his dad had like a hundred acre farm and would work in a in a in a steel mill. But my dad was the first go to college. So they kind of moved us to better schools. That was their thing. We kept moving to get to better schools, but we weren't prepared for that because we didn't kind of know what a tutor was. Like no one had a tutor. So we moved to area that was more academic and explosive stuff, which was good, but he he sold like I love that. I don't think he sold this. He might, but I love that evil, con evil stunt cycle when I was a kid, but he sold like teenage mutant Ninja Turtles. And like, yeah, that was fun as shit. And then he had like God, he had like these little like like those kind of bathtubs. I guess it was in the toy section, but not bathtubs, swimming pool, but it was just a big plastic circle. Remember those outdoor? Yeah, were they hard ones or the soft ones? No, they were just like these. The rigid ones. Yeah, but they were just being the backyard in the summer because no one had a pool. And then he sold galube toys, whatever they sold. Yeah, pull up that stunt cycle for me. Can you evil con evil? Did you ever have that? I don't think so. That was so cool. You'd pull the thing and then it would take off. Oh, that thing was dope. Dude, you was jumping shit and never making it. Yeah, but you were like, he would watch and why will the sports say he's going to jump snake can in and then he would crash. He couldn't move. Well, I read somewhere that dude devil, but then their doubles were popular. Oh, they had we have. Well, that was a crazy thing. Yeah, look at this. There you go. There's a commercial for it. Yeah, so dope. And it never did this shit. It did on the commercial did. No, bro. It never nothing. Nothing ever did. Maybe when they were first coming out with shit that fly that never did. What was, you know what I mean? And I wasn't good enough to, I was never, I always needed an uncle or someone to put it together. I wasn't good at putting stuff together. Were you? No, I would take it all out and I get furious or whatever. I Tom Sawyer, I get someone that could do it. Help me. Oh, I see. You were extortion. Well, I was just, you know, I do certain things for them or could help, but I need help with this. You know what I mean? I knew my limitations there. I'm trying to think of what he had. We had Rambo. Rambo was dope. We had. I played with toys till I was older. I played with toys. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what toys we had. I'm just trying to think about it. Oh, the wrestling figures was huge. You know the kid. Super huge. I played with Smurfs, too. Did you ever play with Smurfs? We would watch Smurfs, but I couldn't have those collectibles. The Smurfs. We're looking back. Collectibles? Well, they had those little smurfs you'd buy. But looking back, I don't think the Smurfs age as well. They didn't do it. Yeah. Gargamel was just weird. I think he got a little one lady Smurfat. They only had one going down. And there was attic. So yeah, there was sort of a bring up Smurfs fat. She was kind of she was cute, but she didn't have enough. She had a girl next door going. She didn't have enough body on her name. No. No. No. She kind of I'm dead. Yeah, you're right. That's a good point. But what was Gargamel doing there? Remember they had this bad guy. Yeah, but it seemed bad guy. More than that than me. I've seen it. They say that there's like a whole like dark kind of thing behind it. There's some stuff with Smurfs being really bad. Oh, really? I think so. Yeah, there's some like a conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's all those Disney had the secret Cox in the movies. Remember that old thing? Yeah. And they did, by the way. I think that you can find those. Everyone just looked at it. Did you ever smoke cigarettes? Oh, yeah. Remember Camel? They have that weird stuff on the Camel cigarette. It looks like a guy. I think who's naked or something, right? I don't know. Put up those Camel cigarettes. Remember you could make out the the outline of a guy with a wiener? I think so. I think if you look at it hard enough, you look at anything. You'll see a little bit of cock. I feel like. I was saying, if you mill around a gas station, you'll see it. Did you spend 40 minutes at a gas station?
let's see somebody's car. - You're looking for it, let's see. - Oh yeah. - Come look at old boy. Look at his hands are on his hips like this. Same shit here. - Let me see that whole segment. - Looks like, yeah, right there we go. - Look at the playlist day. - Yes! - That ain't shit. - I'm telling you, that's something. - You think that's old. God, what a, dude. - Are you guys just a dude standing up? No. - Dude, there's a picture of a guy smoking like, oh, any, I mean, I'll tell you this though. If that were like 15, 20 years ago, then yes, we would all think that, now there's this. - There's your hair shit too, like pop rocks and Coca-Cola, make your stomach blow up and all that. - Yeah, don't kill a B-shawn or whatever, you give 'em to 'em? - Yeah. - Totally. - Oh yeah, that was, we were bored. We didn't have the internet. - We were making shit up. - We were hearing like Rod Stewart had to get a stomach pump. And were you hearing all that? - Oh yeah, and it said Richard Gia was like, working for a, like had a hamster. - You had a hamster. - I don't think that's true. I don't want to discourage nobody. But I think this was the stuff going around. - Yeah, but that was a great rule. 'Cause it was camel cigarettes had some fucking naked dude on it. That's what was in the news. - That's a rule. - That was the news baby. - That's crazy. I do miss when they had more imagination though, even like you're saying, that was something interesting that you said, when you were in the basement, you're imagination, if it was big, it could be a blessing and a curse, 'cause it could really create the darkness too. - I never thought imagination is both. - But yes, I think, if you have a great in her life, like would you talk to yourself a lot? - Oh yeah, me too. - Me too. - Herowing, I'll be like, you're a piece of shit. - I know. - Occasionally, I was like, Merry Christmas. - I remember what I did, it's so good. I remember one time leaving a situation with older kids and not loving the exchange. And I was kinda walking my bike back. I was kinda talking out loud and playing different sides of the conversation. And there was one of the boys had happened to leave at the same time and he was behind me. Really hearing me kind of have this conversation. I kinda, so then I kept talking, but steering it with a different kind of point of view to kind of hide the fact that I was just working out out loud. Like I kinda saw him, but I kept going, but steering it in a place where I felt more comfortable with what I was saying. - Like you were just making up things that made sense, I would have made it justifiable to him. - Yeah, or not see mask nuts, you know. - Oh dude, one time me and my friend, we got in a fight or something in a ditch and with some other kids. And then we were riding our bikes leaving. And I think we got, the fight was pretty even. But we kind of went to like high five like that and our hands got kind of stuck together while we were riding our bikes. So it just looked like two dudes, just like holding hands up in the air. - And proud of it. - Yeah, probably, but it's sick. - Everyone should see this. - It seemed like we're like a couple Harvey Milk Fans, just like leaving a speech. - Try off it. - Yes. - If we seemed a little too triumphant. Like and I still, our hands got locked and we were riding our bikes with the other hand, just holding our bikes up both riding the same way. So we couldn't let them go. So I'm sure these dudes, it looked like, oh, these dudes are a couple of zests. - So really, you were really wanting to not damage the friendship over the fight. - Yeah, so you were overly connecting and making up for the fight. - Well, the kids we had fall were down the street. - Oh, so you guys were celebrating how you did. - We were kind of celebrating. Well, I don't think we did that great, but I think we just went to do a high five. - Yeah, you were in it together. - No one ran. - Right, and our hands got locked. - So I'm sure they looked and they're like, oh, we just beat up these two gay kids probably. And I'm not saying that, but that could have been what they said. - You don't know what they were thinking. - You're just saying it was positive. - I don't know what they were thinking, and that's probably what it was. - It was probably what it was. - Yeah. - Yeah, dude, I'm super nostalgic. - Yeah. - I tried to, I can be, but you gotta, you gotta move on to it. It's a, I think it's good to reflect on that. I think it's good to be where you're at, both. - When you were in college, did you like living in the dorms or in college? - I never went to college. - Did you? - Did you? - Oh yeah, I went to LSU. I went to, oh. - Oh, I got a lot of friends who went there. My college at home. - College at home. - You hated, oh, I know you, dude, I met you with you before. - Who's my guy? - Is he still alive? - Yeah, I don't good. - Fucking Hayden's the greatest, isn't he? - Oh, bro. - Yeah, I go down and watch the games, I'll go watch LSU with him. I always have fun going to those games, yeah. Maybe that's what I've seen, yeah, that could've been. - Yeah, he's a great guy, Hugh. - Hugh knows everybody. - Oh, he knows everybody. - He's like the glue of New Orleans probably. - And the better than Ezra guys, those guys are great. - I know those, dude, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Kevin Griff and I see him while he has a big festival over there in the pilgrimage music festival that he helped start. - Yeah, Hayden was friends with all those guys too. - Oh, dude, you met Drew Breeze? - Yeah, he's a terrific guy. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, 'cause Hugh's friends with, I got to meet a lot of those guys. Hayden is obviously friends with a lot of the Saints and stuff too, and Mickey Luma's and those guys. - He's friends with all my ex-girlfriends somehow, which is interesting. - Oh, he was the best looking guy in the head. - Yeah. - I mean, he was a good looking guy. He makes friends with, yeah, he does good. - Yeah. - Yeah, look. - I don't know if they're just friends. - I think it's all Groovy, I don't think there's any strings. But I'm just saying, it may not have just stayed like, they might not just been sitting down playing Canasta with each other. - Yeah, totally true. - They may not just be hooking up and playing Rummy Q. - I know. - There might be some connections going on. - Yeah, I'm sure. Hugh was just like, yeah. I mean, he was just, everybody knew him. - I just texted with him yesterday. - Are you really? He's a good guy, I love him. - So you guys keep him touch a decent amount. - I do, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - It's full, it's just so fun down there. - It is fun down there. - I was supposed to do it. - I think about going to, when you left here, did you think about going there? - Oh, going back to Louisiana. It's a little too slow down there sometimes, you know? And how much did stand up way on where you relocated to? - The ability to get up, that's a good question. It didn't, I was doing like a tour. So at that point, most of my sets, I was like going out of town and doing like four nights and then coming back like we go out. So most, I wasn't getting up and practicing as much as I was just doing a tour. - So you would go take out on a tour material that you hadn't workshopped all? - Oh, that I had. But it was like this tour. And the tourney I've gone for like three years because we kept finding more markets to go play. So we'd play like smaller and smaller markets. - So you would change the material slightly but you kind of had your base and you were just hitting areas you hadn't had. - And it was growing, I was performing like four nights week but I was just on, it was like in venues and like as opposed to just doing practice sets. - How does that get, as you get older, the road that way? That kind of longevity. Is it something you're still excited about or does it become more of a job? It definitely becomes more of a job and you have to take more breaks. I didn't realize it, you know? - 'Cause you got to fill up your tank. - Well, yeah, yeah, you got to fill up your tank. - Recreate, recreation, recreate. - Oh, but do you bring a crew with you or do you go solo? - I take a tour manager, a couple other comedians and then we'll bring like a, for some of the venues we'll bring like screens and a truck, so we have like one. - Are there people you enjoy and spend time with? - Yeah, that's good. You need that. - Yeah. - Yeah, but then that can become unhealthy too. - Spending too much time with them? - Well, yeah. I mean, you kind of become a circus and it's good 'cause you have each other, but then you kind of are so with each other so much. - Oh, yeah, you can get it like family fight time. - Yeah, you need to break sometimes too. - Yeah, I guess as you get, do you choose films based on now what do you wanna work with your friends? - Well, I have kids now, so once you have kids, that really becomes your priority. I have so many great friends that I just don't see that often 'cause we're on different cycles. You know, their kids are at different ages than mine or live in a different area. So the family is really in your kids become the calling card. You know, it's always funny, I thought about movie idea with this, which is when your kids are real young, there are a lot of work. Like me and my wife didn't have any help. It was just me and her, which I, but really? - Well, that's how I grew up, so I liked it like that. As they got older and I would leave for movies, we'd have people who kind of can help her driving and stuff. But I found that like, you're so desperate to have other people that have kids your age, 'cause it's a lot of work. So when the kids get to be three or four, if you meet other people with kids the same age, you can hang out, you know, have some, have a glass of wine, whatever, and the kids play together, so that's nice. But all you really have in common is your kids are the same age. And then it feels like a good idea to go on spring break with them. 'Cause that's easy, you can put the kids, you can do stuff together and the parents could hang. But then you can realize that you have very different parenting styles. - Ooh. - Have you been in some situations like that? - I think everybody has it sort of funny, but you're like, is that guy gonna tell his son to stop hitting my daughter? Or am I gonna have to say something? Or is that guy's way too, that guy's screaming at his son, he's an inch from his face, where these guys are getting super drunk and falling down in front of their kids. So you just don't know until you go on that trip with the parenting and how they roll. But you know, you kinda hang with them and I'm sure everyone feels that way. So it's sort of something you start to hang out with more people who have kids in your area because your kids' schedules are dominating your time. - Way more than you would hang out with friends that you had in common through comedy or through other stuff because it's all the kids. - It's all the kids. - Yeah. Have you ever been shocked if your kid picks a certain friend and you're like, no, that's not the kid. I kinda let my kids, I mean, I give them kind of a baseline of things to look for. And then I let them make their mistakes and go through it. But I've been fortunate. My kids, you know, both have pretty good friends. I like, they handle themselves well. I get nice reports that they treat me as good. Yeah, I get texts all the time or we'll hear stuff saying, oh, your daughter, walked my daughter out of this situation and was nice to her. So that makes you feel good. But yeah, I think it's not as complicated as people make it, Theo. I think it gets over-complicated in a city in LA if everyone's competing to get into the right school. - Right. - Do you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, yeah. - But I think if it's just a basic idea of how you go about handling stuff, you kind of attract people that share those ideas. But if you're competing all the time, I think you're kind of gonna get in a bad situation. - Is you're, did you choose a good wife first? - I did, yeah. - She's from Canada. She'd go up on a farm. - Dude, that's where you gotta get him. - You're so funny, dude. - I know it's the way you said that was like, that's the secret code. - Well, a lot of people are like,
Yeah, I'm definitely looking in the Canada even further. I'll take something that's, you know, I'm saying this, still on ice, how are you going? I'll take a freaking in you. And I'll take something that's in the freezer section, you know what I'm saying? Something that hasn't been thought out by some of these desperate ways of America, you know? I tell you, it's, you got good and bad people everywhere, for sure, but I definitely, I definitely look for somebody who, you know, I like their base values and how they handle stuff. I think that goes a long way because a lot of parenting is problem-solving. Yeah, working with each other, yeah. And they have good posture up there in Canada, you notice they're the best posture. I haven't noticed that. Watch Canadians when they go by, you could barely even see them, they're so-- Interesting. Just horizontal longitudinal. You'd be, even below a surprise, you don't see them like Africans with that, like, you know, Karen should on their head. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you remember that? They always have a basket carrying, walk around real casual, like a back, 'cause her posture was great. Oh, yeah. And someone would even, like, if the ladies would get pissed, they'd be like, mm-hmm, but not even spelling anything. They're not dropping them out. Not a freaking melon would fall out of the basket. Oh, dude, I remember I went to South Africa a couple times and you would see a lot of people walking in there, but that was how they would travel to stacking on the dunes. I'd never been to South Africa. That was so nice. You like it? Yeah, 'cause there's just so much going on, you know? Yeah, just like it's beautiful and amazing, and there's these beaches, and then it's all this insane history. Were you there for a vacation or a work? I went there one time at Johannesburg to do a comedy festival. I went once when I did this in called Semester at Sea, where you went as a student, like on this boat, and we went there. Yeah. And you ever go somewhere for work and then say, I wanna come back for, when I have some downtime to hang, that's cool. That's the great thing about our work as you get to travel. Yeah. I find that to be a great education. Oh, yeah, for sure, dude. Going to Vietnam or whatever. I'm trying to think of some other neat places. Yeah, what's a place that you filmed in there? You were like, wow, this kind of blew my mind. Even if it was an American city. Yeah, there's been a lot of them. I mean, I remember going, you know, as a kid getting to go to New York and actually living there was a big, very different from me, obviously, than I lived there for a while. And you were acting then or not? I was, yeah. I never really traveled anywhere, bro, until work took me there. Like for us, a vacation was in a, you know, we would get in a station wagon. Where would y'all go? We tried to Florida or Arizona. Dude, Florida? You try not to get grounded, 'cause everyone's hopped up on sugar and shit and you're crowded in and you try not to get in trouble in the back. But we didn't really, you know, we would, we would drive most places for spring break. I never left, I had relatives in Canada from my mom's side. So we would, we would go up there, but I never went to Europe ever. Yeah. Until I had gone for work. For sure. Did you? No, dude, we didn't know even know about Europe. The guy, the janitor that drew the map on our, like cement at our school, left out three states of it, dude. So in the words, like, people were like, what is happening, like, how does that happen? They just, you know, they probably-- What were the states, what were the states? They would know, 'cause they didn't put them down. Yeah, well, I think it was somewhere, some of it, I think Maine, I knew that Maine was missing. I didn't want to call him out 'cause I felt kind of bad for the guy, but anyway, yeah. So we weren't going to Europe, dude. I remember Canada, they didn't even have it when I was a kid or whatever. They had like a picture. I remember in our classroom, they had America. Yeah. 'Cause it was very, everything was very American, and very like, we are America. And then they had a picture of a wolf, like, chasing a boy. And that was Canada, like, chasing a cold boy. And that was like, what we thought was going on outside of there. And Florida was the greatest place you could go in the world. If somebody went to Florida and they came back to school and then a sherdron said, Florida, you were like-- Oh, man, you killed it. They are so rich, totally. That's nice. You guys would drive all the way from Illinois to Florida. Yeah, we have relatives in Ohio. I go see my grandfather had a little farm. What kind of animals did they have over there? He just had cows. He just had cows. I remember I like cows, they're warm. Yeah. I remember as a kid, I was like in first grade. And we were studying the pilgrims. And the pilgrims were all in black and white. And so when we drove from the farm to go see my grandfather, I'd never saw much. But when you get to the smaller roads, they're like this narrow, you know, you can't get around. There's just two lanes. And those country roads are smaller roads. And we were behind Amish. I'd never seen Amish people. Oh, yeah. Never-- I've traveled, I thought they were pilgrims. So you had a bunch of kids in black and white in the back of the carriage, you know, kind of staring at us. You couldn't break eye contact. Because they're looking right at you. They're fucking slow, bro. They're not moving. This horse is not excited. And we're sitting behind them. We're like a Lincoln towel car or something my dad was driving. And we was so slow going. And I remember going, why won't these pilgrims get out of our way? And my dad lost his mind. He pulled the car over and took my head off. You're no better than these people who go you to talk like that about someone. But he didn't realize, like, I really thought they were pilgrims. Wow. I really thought that that was a pilgrim. Because I had a slur. I couldn't even understand how a court was. These people living not touching electricity, you know what I mean? But my dad's great in my mom. But they were real keen on making sure that you were-- I think because they moved me to a nicer area, they were real big on making sure I wasn't feeling better than anybody. But I think he got that one wrong. I think he thought I was making fun of these homage people. I didn't know what they were. Yeah. You're like, this could be Christopher Columbus's children or whatever over here. They just, you know, they're all hopped up on cheese curds and they're slowing down. They're slow as fuck, and we can't get around them. Dude, that's hilarious, bro. Yeah, that's kind of what we had in our classroom. We were super pro America too. Everything was. It was taught in that way. The pleasure was good. Oh, yes, I liked it. I liked it. By the way, I love it. I did too. Yeah. Well, it kept us together. It was like one thing you had in common. It was like, at a certain point, if you don't have anything in common, if you take away things that people have in common, then they don't have anything in common. I still feel the same way. I still feel like it's the best out there. Not that it's perfect. There's a lot of stuff going on. I don't think we even-- I don't know how much control everyone even has over it. But I still love the idea of it. Well, a lot of people are going to homeschool now, too. That's it. Yeah. There's more parents have switched to homeschooling now than even during COVID. I did some of it. You did it? My daughter in first grade, we did it. I did some-- You know, I-- That's easy to teach, though, dude. Traveling the harder. I didn't teach it. I had a lady that was good. Yeah. I get a curriculum. You know, and then I'd have a pick a curriculum that I like. I had a lady. But the first year, she was by herself, which she'd look at me when I'd leave her in the classroom. Like, yes. It would almost be sitting by themselves. So then I found a public high-bred school where she would go two days a week. And then I moved her to a local Catholic school. And now she goes to a big public high school, and she's doing great. But for all the same reasons, you start looking at this stuff and figuring that you want to try to give a education that is not so drowning and beat them down. Yeah. Not really exactly. I mean, let me think about beating them down. Well, meaning everything was taught from a place for a while, like pointing out everything bad. And you can't say this. Oh, yeah. You can't feel this way or so much guilt education. Yeah. Oh, you're bad to feel this way or that way. And so I didn't-- For sure. It's just too heavy. And also like just a hatred of anything. 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I just haven't really, I've been working so much that I didn't really focus on it much, but now I'm trying to focus on it more. How old are you if you don't mind? I'm 45. So I'm going down. I'm not going to die soon, but I'm going to, you know. You got time. I think the thing that happens is we're so focused on the career, and it takes up so much time, and it's easy to put that to the sidelines. But then as you get older, sometimes the joy or the things we got from the career are as high as they were, and you start to look at family and the idea of it and say that would be fun. So you take kind of the same approach that you take towards your career, and you start to put those ideas on meeting somebody. And then you start to work at it in the same kind of way. And I think my opinion, sometimes what are the things I'm doing that are good, what's not good, what's a good thing to bring to a relationship, what's not working on yourself in a weird way, you'll come in contact with somebody. More than I got to go to the right class or go out during the day, it's more about doing that kind of work on yourself. Then I think you'll kind of attract somebody in a similar mindset. And I would say don't put it off, just focus on it a little bit, in the same way that you've done with your career. Did you have to do that, and you're like, yeah, I got to a point like you did, and I thought, at first I thought, you know, maybe you don't get all the cards in life, like maybe I was so not focused on this, but it just doesn't work out. Now I'm older, and I wish I would have gotten started sooner, but then I thought, you know, I want to ask God for those years back, like I can get those years better than I would have had them if I'm asking for them now, because now I'm wanting that. Does that make sense? Yeah. So now that you want it, you say, why can't I have it now, and whatever way it looks for you at 45? Yeah. Well, yeah, I think you're right. I think the more I just keep realizing it's not me like, because sometimes they're like, I don't really want to go out or go do this thing or something, but maybe I'll meet somebody right, and maybe I'll, but then it's a lot of times I'm still meeting somebody with the same kind of, I'm showing up with some of the same problems that I still are that are preventing me. So it's, I think you're right about, instead of like out there metal detecting, maybe stay home and work on the magnet a little bit. But I think do it with grace too, you can say, you know, I don't want to do this. This would be better. What do I look? And also I think you go, what do I want in a person that I'm going to be married to? What do I want and what don't I want? Like just thinking about it. It's almost like the same as a standup. What kind of venues do I want to play? What kind of podcast, what do I want to do? And by making those decisions, you can manifest something you're excited about. Yeah. I think I have a good mom. That's what I want to have a wife. That's a good mom. That's probably the number one that, you know, did your wife have to introduce you to her dad or whatever like they do in the movies or whatever? They were kind of, I've met them pretty quickly. I did call him and someone asked her to marry and he, I think he was appreciative of it. But they weren't as much like that. I was raised like that. Yeah. No, dude. There was like a lot of domestic abuse in our area and people like hiding drugs in each other's, you know, bad dreams and stuff like that. So it was more. But those relationships that aren't going well. Yeah, pretty much. Right. But I'm saying you would want to, you know, the family. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to have like a family, you know, I'm okay with like people fighting at night before they go to bed. Show me a normal family. I'll show you a liar. Everyone's going to go through their bullshit. You know what? Like fucking kill it. Everyone's got their shit. They fight about it. Anybody's mad at anybody. So that's never going to go away. You're just trying to aim at a little better. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just shoot a little bit. A little bit. I just want my air to end at least in a different area. But dude, yeah. I remember one time we were so mad at our mom and we were like crying. We're all crying. We tried to like put all of our tears in like a little jar and we're going to take them to the police and be like, look what's happening at the house. But they won't stay in there. Like in the morning, they were gone or whatever. Not interesting. Yeah. Yeah. But I remember that. Were you real tight with your mom? No. We weren't that tight, but we're tighter now. That's good. Yeah. I just went and surprised her for Valentine's Day the other day. That's nice. We had a nice time, dude. You have brothers and sisters? Oh, yeah. I got a couple of brothers and sisters close. It's gotten better over the years. Yeah. Yeah. What about, what do you got? Same. So older sisters. And you were the boy? I was in youngest. Yeah. And they were older sisters. Yeah. No. Did they ever have friends come over and you're just like, oggling or whatever? They were like five. They were five or six years older. So no, I was the best. I would sometimes get thrown under the bus to look cool for the older friends. You know, like you'd hang out and play. And then when the older friends would come, you weren't included. That's normal shit. Yeah. Yeah. Go hide, Vince. Yeah. Did they call you Vince? Did they call you? They called me Vince if they weren't mad at me. Then they call you anything. We fights like crazy younger. You'd be like, you'd be hot and then you'd be friends and you'd love each other. You're like anything. Yeah. You'd really go at it when you go. Did you have this? Sometimes when you get in a fight with your siblings, it's really like a game of a tag. You'd be so pissed and you'd hit somebody, but then you'd be afraid because now you got them. So then you, they'd turn around and mad and now they try to come to get you real bad and you were trying to get to the door to shut it. And then if they got you, it would go the other way. Yeah. So it's like whoever got the other one hard last is kind of how the fights would go. Yeah. And within when they really brought it to mom and then seeing kids run around, their mom is one of the funniest things, you know, like they're hiding it so funny when you watch a kid with their mom sometimes and then it's like, you know, they're moving in between the moms like they're just running or, you know, they're all like, are they're fighting around the mom? That kind of shit's falling. Or even how kids play hide and seek. Yeah. Like an ostrich. Their ass will stick out, but their head will be behind the curtain. You ever seen kids play hide and seek? Oh, dude. Sometimes a kid will just sit there and cover his eyes and laugh, and while we had to, we could see you dude. Thank God. There's not a kid now. After the kid. Yeah, we didn't have, I think we had to, we had a decent amount of, like, uh, they used to have a law that they would put, like, if you was like, uh, sex offenders or whatever children, sex offenders, you had to go around and go door to door, right? Which was the worst because we all, we lived that, huh? Our mom was working. So we just be, these guys would come and they'd be like, I can't have to let you know I live in the air. I'm a sex-fender. It would just be us kids. I live in the air. I'm into super young guys. Just letting you know. Mom. But mom would be gone. Yeah. And that was like at an every house. So I'm like, who put this rule together? Yeah. Now it's on an app. Yeah. That's easier now. Oh, Jesus. Over here. Yeah. 60 feet or whatever. No. We just walk around. We were always outside going around. Nobody paid attention to us. Do. Yeah. That was being living it. That was the best. Do we have this one kid named Kirby that tried to crawl through the ditch covert one time? And the government had to come and get him or whatever I remember. The government had to come get him. That government man came down to do some work. To shit. Like, that was the best way of this. You name Milford. That would drive the school bus and he was always, they were always coming and checking to see if he was drunk. It was just like, it was, yeah, but there was nothing like that being like, we find out stuff later than a teacher molested people and stuff. Oh, yeah. You find that out later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that kind of took a turn. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about it. Well, I watched your movie, Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool, man. It's cool. The way that they shot somewhere, they slowed it down. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Stylized. Yeah, it was interesting. Was that a choice that was made kind of later? Have any clue? No, I had to do about that. It's a director who puts it all together and he kind of has a stylized point of view to do it. But I liked it. I thought it came out cool. Yeah. Well, it's just bizarre. It was like, really? It's just like, it made me think, Oh, things can be flashbacks. Yeah. Like, when he would do flashbacks, you're saying, well, like, even with the, like, there's like a more, they have that cat that's in there and they show him, but it's like, uh, it goes in slow motion just for like a moment or something. Yeah, yeah. I just thought it was pretty stylized. That's what I thought. I agree. Yeah. And so I don't want to give too much of a little, a little way, but so your character kind of goes back, what can we say? Is it whatever you want? It's just kind of a sci-fi thing where it's, it's rated, it's like a rated R comedy with action and it's got this kind of sci-fi twist to it. And your character, you have, you played two, two characters. Yeah. Of you. Yes. Yeah. It was kind of cool to see like, because you always wonder, well, I wonder what it would be like if you played this character in this thing while you're watching somebody and something, but to see him play two people that was like, oh, that's, it's like, I can't explain it. It was just like, it almost seemed like an experiment. It's crazy what they do with technology now, because you kind of film one side of it, then you film the other side and they put it, you know, together like it's one thing that technology is gotten so much more advanced. Was there tough moments to play like two different characters in the same thing or you didn't really think about it? I was amazed at how different the guys actually seem because I was like, oh, well, at one point I'm just going to kind of get confused, but I didn't at all. Yeah, they make them a little different because one's obviously been alive longer and you're going back into it.
But yeah, it was a different experience for sure. So I kind of like doing stuff that's a little different. You get bored doing the same stuff. So anytime I'm doing something that's a little different, I like that. So it was, it wasn't too bad. I mean, sometimes it was just more stuff to film because you're playing two characters in a scene. Oh, that's true. But I like trying different stuff. Was there, I read some of you were almost in the Matrix one time. I don't know about that. That wouldn't, I don't remember that. Sometimes there's stuff I've turned down, but I don't remember that being one of them. Yeah. Your first, one of your first movies was Rudy. Mm, that's the best, huh? That was fun. Yeah. Dude, I still sometimes see that got clapped and by the stage. So funny, bro. Yeah, that's so funny. It's such a mean. It's slow clap. Oh, slow clap. Charles S. Dutton, that's the actor. Yeah, he was great. Yeah, did he pass away? I don't know if he did or he didn't. Let's go back to the board here. I like him up. He was cool. He was great in that part. Oh, he was so good. Great speech to Rudy. Yeah, gratitude. So alive. Hell yeah. Come on, Charles. Show them Charles. And he was in the show, yeah, they had a show called Rock when I was a kid that he was on. Yeah, that guy was great, dude. Did you ever meet the real Rudy over there? I did. Yeah. I didn't hang out with him much, but he was there. And I had him a few times, yeah, yeah. 'Cause I went over there to miss Milwaukee, Indiana. I used to do a good comedy over there. Sometimes he had a comedy club. He owned a comedy club? No, no. They had one on the edge of town there right outside of where Notre Dame was. Gotcha. And I would go-- Did you even do a game there? I'd never been to a game. It's cool, yeah. Tradition, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I would love to go. Well, the grass right there, when you walk onto the campus at Notre Dame, it's like beautiful. And then when you're off the graph, off the campus, it's a little bit different grass. Totally. It's more like the grass has been drinking or whatever during the day even. That's that day drinking. Yeah, but on campus, it's super nice. Yeah, they take care of it for sure. Oh, is that the campus right there? Yeah, that's a nice picture. Give me a moment of snow right there. That's nice. Yeah, that's one thing I do like about Nashville is that we do get some cold weather over there. That's kind of a vibe. Do you miss out about the Midwest about having cold weather? I think your use, whatever you get used to. I don't mind the cold. I'm always ready to be done with it come January. I like it for the holidays. But come February, I'm done with it. As a kid, I loved it. What would y'all do? Just go play in the snow or get a snow day. You know, as an adult, you're scraping it off the driveway, you're scraping your car. It's more maintenance and getting kids ready in the snow is a lot more time. Yeah, you gotta lock them down. Lock them down in the other face. It's just like a thing of snotted this redness. Like Christmas story. Yeah. Dude, the guy from Christmas story, I met him with you. Yeah, he's one of my best friends. He is my best friend. Peter Billingsley. He's my closest friend. He's a great guy. Yeah, 'cause I met you guys. So you guys started the Wild West Comedy Festival? What was that? Like, 'cause that was the National Comedy Festival, right? Yeah. What was it? I'll tell you what it was. I had a lot of friends that were stand-ups. But there wasn't any opportunities for stand-ups. This is in the like '90s. We did swingers. We wrote in the script, there was the line that said, 'cause Fabros' character was a stand-up and next stand-up in that movie. So he wrote the line saying in the '80s, it felt like they were handing out pilots to stand-ups at the airport. And then it was a time where there really wasn't a lot for stand-ups. So I just started trying to help friends of my out that were stand-up comedians. I did that Wild West Comedy show where I went around and did 30 days and put Sebastian was on that. And some of the comedians do it everywhere. I just would go hit 30 cities in 30 days, 'cause it seemed fun to me. So we performed every night. We did 30 nights in a row. But I was really trying to help some of my friends like I'm mad that I knew guys that were stand-up comics. Oh, yeah. John Caprula saw him last night at the comedy store. But there was a bunch of stand-ups, 'cause there wasn't as much opportunity. So it's crazy, 'cause now stand-ups have a lot more opportunities. Right, Ernst is on there. Well, I like Brett. But anyway, they started going. But then what happened is the stand-ups now have a lot more opportunity. But at the time, it wasn't as viable. I think in the last 15 years stand-up really had this Renaissance where so much came out of it. And I look at the stand-up stuff a little bit like what happened with improv. Like I did improv when I was a kid in Chicago when I was in high school, 'cause there was an improv Olympic that was an offshoot a second city. But it wasn't, it was just a place to go train and it was fun. It wasn't that big of a deal. I enjoyed it and I learned stuff there, but I didn't stay the whole time. I came out to California after high school. But as I got older, there started to be these different improv groups. And then it became like a religion. This improv group thought that that improv group wasn't good. This improv group is good at sketch. This is good at characters. They don't, and I thought this is fucking improv. Like who the fuck is talking about improv? Yeah, it's like when mimes start beefing or whatever you're looking at. It's like both mimes. It's just comedy. Like what is the, I mean what are you talking about? It's so fucking crazy to me. And so then stand-up kind of went through the same thing where it started to form into like this stand-up group or this group or a comic is this and I thought Jesus, it's the same shit where it starts to get too self-important. And I think ultimately comedy is a big tent. You can go real cerebral or you can be physical. It doesn't matter. There's nothing that, there's nothing that, you know, prestigious or like a stamp of approval about it. Yeah, I agree. It's gotten to that place recently. There's been like kind of like in fighting. I don't know if it's in practice. It's like rappers. Yeah, it is, right. It's so silly. But everybody's afraid to kill each other. It's weird, right? It's just so stupid. So I'm just saying we either, either we need a Tupac or we can begin from, we need somebody. You gotta go real bad to get good. Yeah, yeah. Or it's just gotta stop. Or it's silly. But it is silly, bro. A lot of it got political too, I think. Politics came into stuff. I think that's happened a lot over the past few years with people like attaching themselves like heavily attaching themselves to politics. Which is part of the job 'cause you're gonna talk about current events. Right, but to attach yourself to something. But you don't want to become part of a group. And feel like you're now you're a champion for one ideology. You want to make fun of everybody. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. It's happened more over the past few years. But it's always been that, well it was, for a long time it was like, you know, Hollywood is pretty much overly kind of a liberal place. Yeah. And so you would have, but not really. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's more like, we're smart and got it figured out. And if you don't agree, then you're. Then you're an idiot. Yeah. That's true. It's not liberal. It's not liberal. Yeah, I'm not liberal in the way that we think where it's like, hey, it's all groovy. Right. Yeah, it's not liberal like a hippie with a joint. No, no, no. Maybe it was. That's pursuit of happiness. That's cool. Whatever makes you happy. Right, right, that's cool. Maybe it was at one point though, I think. I don't know. But it's definitely got more of a lead. It's take like, this is our way or the highway. I think it's changing now. Well, do you think it's dissolving now? Or do you think it's just spacing out more now? That's an interesting conversation too, because I hear this from the different groups too. I do think that there's less control in some ways. But I also thought, I also think that they put themselves in a corner with trying to please everybody. You know, you're going to catch pneumonia. You're trying to please everybody. That's like that old vana get quote. So yes, I think I think there was a more of a strangle hold with ideas, but there's always been people who feel differently within that. It's like any group, I guess, but yeah, I think what we're saying is similar that it was never really a place where within individuals and friends, and we could always disagree and always joke with each other. People my age, I disagree, agree, and you could change our minds, we'd laugh, we joke. But there was definitely a culture that if you didn't agree with these ideas, you were looked at as bad. For sure. But I think Hollywood, you got more political, I don't know if it got more political. No, they got rewarded for it. Yeah, they started to come out there and do it, and I don't even know how much everyone even is informed on everything. Yeah. But they really like to get out there and do it. Oh, yeah. But it's also wild how those people will speak on one thing, but there'll be another topic that's way bigger. And they're hypocrites too. A lot of times. Like anybody is. Well, for sure, dude, I'm a, I totally, like I feel strong about this, but it's a strange thing when you start going like you know better than someone. That's when it gets weird. It's one thing to say, this is where I'm at, and then here's someone else's point of view, and disagree or agree. It's another thing to be like, I'm so right, and I gotta, and I'm gonna help you or condescend to you. That's the part that, no, I mean, no one wants to hang out with that. Yeah. So I got through that. Or my agent is right. And so this, I'm gonna have to tell you what they think, you know, that's also another like, you know, that happens a lot again. Where people are like, well, I feel like they have to think how their agents are managers. You know what I'm saying? Well, they feel pressured to think it's her way. That's terrible. And that happens, but that's the problem if you're going through life trying to check boxes like the, like Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz, like let me get the broom, let me do this. What is the wizard? You're not thinking for yourself. You're just trying to do the things you're supposed to, but it's always better if you get quiet and do what's in your heart and do what you think is right. Yeah. That's when you carve out stuff and make your own path. And probably the best of it and get the best stuff out of you even creatively. 100%. And have the courage, I think, to be honest, try to be and, you know, go out. That's the problem I think that happened with film comedies, and that's why I think stand-up got stronger is they, you know, stand-ups would kind of, it was easier to give someone money for a special and say, we're going to knock, that's their special. But the studios weren't going to produce a comedy and have more of, be more responsible for supporting the making of that film.
All I see is you're saying with a standup special, they can just put this is their thing. - That's their thing we're out of it. We're just hiring a special. But the truth is, most people, they want to laugh. They don't want to see stuff be precious that you can't talk or joke about. Most people can make fun of themselves. You know, in the real world, if you don't have a sense of humor about yourself, then it's a lonely experience. You know, you've got to be able to laugh at yourself. You can look back at stuff that you believe so strongly. A few years ago in laugh about it. So I think you've got to have that quality and comedy is that being able to laugh at stuff. And I think that it was easier than to go, okay, well, we're going to just have a standup and that's their point of view than it was to, they got too complicated not to offend anybody with going and making a movie. They were trying so hard not to offend anybody. - What do you think is wild? - Does that make sense? - For sure it does. I think it's one of the reasons why I've seen a lot of, why a lot of the late shows have struggled. Because all they did during, the only person they can make fun of at a certain point was just like white red and that kind of people and it fucking tanked and then everything tanked after that. - Think about that. - Let's see, they never get it right. The podcasts have gotten so much more popular with less production, less writers, less staff. - Oh, yeah. Two people working here and both of them are hung over. One guy has shingles. - But the place is clean. I like that. - You keep a clean plan. - Thank you, yeah, we did it back here. But yeah, because people want authenticity. - Yeah. - And I think that the talk shows to a large part became really agenda based. - Yeah. - They were gonna evangelical people to what they thought. And so people just rejected it because it didn't feel authentic. It felt like they had an agenda. It's not being funny and it started feeling like I wasn't fucking a class I didn't want to take. - Yeah. - Do you know what I mean? - For sure. - I've been scolded. - A hundred percent. - Yeah. - A hundred percent. - I think that's the phenomenon isn't what they say. They always blame technology. But the reality is it's the approach. You know, someone could go watch a standup at Madison Square Garden and they want to go 'cause it feels dangerous. The crowd is alive. I don't know what Theo's gonna do or say. And I love taking that experience. So it's fun. I don't want to stay home and watch it on a TV because I want to experience that life. - Right. - And I want to be pure. - That's where you're coming from. - That's the main point. And I think people are gonna tune into a podcast more so because they want to feel like people are having a real conversation. It's interesting to them. But if you look at what happened to the talk shows and why their ratings are low, it's got only to do with the fact of what you just said, which is they all became the same show. And they all became so about their politics and who's good and who's bad. And it's like, imagine sitting next to someone like that on a fucking plane. - Oh. - Bro, you'd be like, how do I get out of this fucking seat? - I'll be fart right next to you. - Holy cow. - You fart your way out of that. - Yeah, I would. Oh, I would for sure. And I'm sorry. - You know the talk. The Skunk's the King of the Jungle. No one's playing with the Skunk. You can watch all the fucking videos you want. Skunk, in the food chain in the woods, fucking Skunk is here. You get yourself a pit bowl. I don't get what you got. The honey badger, the fucking Skunk is the King of the Jungle. Don't bring that bad ass around. - Yeah. - Yeah, bro. - Is it my right? - That's it. - That's it. You can talk about whatever the fuck you want as far as an animal and velocity right there. All Hill, the King, that motherfucker's going where he wants. You might need a nap. He might be like a lover that needs to recharge. He might be like an older lover. He might not be able to go 10 times in a day, but that one or two times, he's going to get it right. - But what's he having for lunch or that? - Whatever the fuck he wants, whatever is around. He can hit a spray and get everyone else to scurry. You don't bother him. - God, man. - It was that Skunk puts its tail up. You got a real decision to make. - What a fuck. - How much of a bad ass are you? - Yeah, yeah, right. So if you brought that Skunk mentality to the plane, you fucking run that shit. - Well, I'm just saying every now and then, if somebody won't fucking shut up, dude. - Yeah, put some ass on it. - Well, you just gotta be, you know what I'm saying? You gotta be the King of the Jungle. That's all I'm saying, bro. That's all I'm saying for sure. But did you ever feel, you never felt ostracized and by Hollywood at all or no? - I got along with people and always had a great career. - Trying to be honest who I am. But yeah, there's times you felt like it would have been easier. It's almost like a career move. - Yeah. - Oh yeah, I can see that. - But I was always the other way too. Like, I'm not jumping on 100% this or this. - 'Cause I have opinions on both sides. There's shit I don't agree with at all. And then there's shit I don't agree with at all. - I don't see how people could choose a side completely. - It's so crazy. 'Cause also, once you're on a side, you're on a side, fuck that. I want to be able to have the freedom of accessibility. - Yeah. - And also, I'm agree with this over here. I agree with this over there. And it is what it is. But I just, we never cared about it so much. It wasn't our defining conversations about how I like somebody or life. We weren't 23 sitting around talk about. - I agree. - Five taxes. - Yeah. - But I think as it started to encroach on us, for me, I started to go a little bit back here 'cause nobody wants to be told what to do. Or feel like everything you do has to be through the certain lens. - Or worrying about if people think you're kind or not. - And especially when everybody's pretending a lot of times 'cause I would have friends acting one way, but then kind of speaking another way sometimes. - Well, those are the people that are so focused on how they're coming off. - Yeah. - You know, they're worried about, and that's not a real journey. And you're hurting in that. I think we all go through those stages, younger. Like everyone learns that lesson. Well, we all want to be accepted. - Yeah, but you learn younger the right way to do it, hopefully, we never get it perfect. And you learn the wrong way. But if you're constantly worried what someone else thinks of you, and you're only around them a couple hours a day, you're miserable most of the time. You gotta really try to be, you know, find the way to be yourself, but be respectful. You know, that's the other side that I think happened is when I was a kid, if I was loud in a restaurant, my parents would say, "These people didn't come here to hear you fucking scream." Well, dude, you stared at the amus wrong, and you got, I got dog talked. - Yeah. - But now if you're mad in a restaurant, they'll say, "Are you okay?" And I just think it's important to be aware of how you're affecting other people. - Yeah. - But if you're all about you and you're right and they're bad and you're good, then you're okay to go after somebody because you're not really thinking about what their shoes are, you know? - Yeah, we've started to like make it seem like the delusional isn't delusional sometimes. - So that again. - Like yeah, something's delusional, but if we act like it isn't over and over, and we'd be like-- - No risers. - Yes, it's almost like you said, like the boiling water gets a degree higher, one degree at a time, you know? - Yeah, saying that like as they change the laws a little bit at a time, you kind of wake up and you go, "This has gone way further than," but it happens so slowly that you're like, if they would have done this at once, I would have gotten out, yeah. - 100%. - As America turns 250 this year, let's remember the people who helped build it. 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No, I went back to Chicago for a minute but and I lived in New York for a while but I'm out here now and you know, I like California. I just get tired of like everybody. It's like a lot of these big cities, I think, you know, it's a lot, it's a lot of energy. It's a lot of energy, it's also just, you know, you're not getting things aren't,
- Getting handled well, and there's no accountability. It's like a bad relationship. - Yeah. - It's like someone doesn't do what they said they're gonna do, and there's no I'm sorry, or want to change. - Yeah, I agree, dude. It definitely gets sick. - But you love California. - Yeah. - Oh, I just realized this is my second time back, I'm like about three months, but I was here like about two weeks ago, and I do miss it more. I just miss some of the energy, like I live in national, now there's just less energy that you know, it's just different, you know. Like here you can meet more people, there's more like things going on, but you're in a great spot where you can do both. You can enjoy your time here, and you can enjoy your time here. So it's been good, man. - Yeah. - The, what did I see? Oh, Chicago, you said, are you a bearish fan or no? - I am, yeah. - Dude, fucking Williams, bro. He's really grateful like four and a half minutes a game. - That ice, yeah. I mean, if you look at that NFC, we barely beat the Packers and the Rams barely beat us, and then, obviously, right, then they lost. Those games were all so close, but it was exciting 'cause we've been so bad for so long. - Oh, dude. - It was good to be good. We were channeling through the TV, we were like screaming like, "Is somebody make this happen?" - Who do you cheer for? - I'm a Saints fan, so yeah. We've had a tough time. - Do you know some of those guys? I like the Saints organization. I like Mickey, the G.I. - I never met Mickey. - He's a great guy. - Is he? - Yeah, yeah. He's good friends with Hayden. Oh, he is. I wonder if I have met him then. No, I haven't met him. - They had a good year. They turned around this year. - They did good. - Tell us how everybody's excited about him? - Yeah. - Who just had a baby, bring up a picture of his baby, since we're a, since I'm a fan of there. Cam Jordan's a great guy that plays over there in that organization. - Yeah. - He just came out and said nice things about your quarterback. - He did? Cam Jordan's nasty. He's fast. - Yeah. - He's a past rush all by himself. - I would not want him chasing me. I wouldn't even go knock on his door and run off or whatever. He wouldn't want him coming and saying, I moved to the neighborhood and I got a register. - Yeah. (laughing) - He ain't going nowhere bro. - You ain't getting away. - No basement, no basement. - Touch me now and get it over with. - No basement, nothing's going to be safe, dude. - No cellar doors are going to keep you safe. - Do you wish, when you look on that, on that, there he is right there. I know he's had a baby. Congratulations to the QB1. When you look back at that bear's game, do you think that they, do you wish they were putting on two on that moment? Like just that momentum was there. - It was amazing to hit that crazy pass. - That was a tie it up. - That was insane. - Then we had that last drive. All we needed was a field goal. But we got, you know, it was the same kind of thing a lot we lived and died by the sword all season. - Yeah. - So I thought it was a fun year, but I loved to have won the game. - Yeah. - But there's a lot of pieces to be excited about. - Yeah, just that confusion at the end, like how does they not know which way they got, like as a fan? I'm sure it's way more complicated as a player. But as a fan, you're like, how do you guys not know what the, this is the most crucial moment? - I know. - I don't know what happened there. I've heard different stuff. I don't think anybody did that. - And then it's almost like was everybody just so cold they wanted to go home? There's a little bit of energy. (laughs) Because I think that happens a lot. We just like, I'm so cold I just want to go home. - Yeah, you think it was be a vantage for them. They'd be more used to it. - You never know. - 'Cause some of those guys could be from Louisiana playing on the team. It's not like all of them grew up in the cold. - Oh, I grew off from everywhere. - I wish that teams had their all the players from their state. I think it would give us so much more of like our state versus your state. - It used to be more that way with college, but that's in a crazy place now. - Yeah, the college game. - It's gotten bad. - I think it's good people are getting paid. I just don't think they figured it out yet. - Yeah. - I think we're like the wild west years of it. - Yeah. - Do you, the Bears might be moving their stadium. Do you see that? - I saw that. - What do you think about that? - Well, I like to see them stay, but I think they got to figure something out with the state. I haven't followed it too closely. What do you know about it? - It seems like in Zax, one of our producers is Bears. He's a Bengals fan, but he's in the know. It seems like it's because time is sticking for Eleanor lawmakers to make a better offer for the Bears on Thursday, Indiana push legislation forward that clears the way for the Bears to build a new stadium in Hammond. Is it just because they're willing to give them more money? - I think it's something to do with economics, obviously. - Yeah. - I don't know what. - I think there's a big tax incentives to go over to Hammond, Indiana. Hammond, Indiana isn't exactly like the coolest place, so I think there's some people upset. It's close though, it's right over the, right over the. - Yeah, and Chicago is such a vibe in that city. I think people seem to be like widely, but. - And also if you move something to a new place, then there's going to be so much surrounding. They can put in all types of other things to go on. I like to see it, it's the second oldest franchise in the NFL. The oldest is the Cardinals, which is from Illinois, originally, before they went to St. Louis. - Oh, St. Louis College? - Well, it was originally the Illinois. It was Chicago, it was from Illinois. That's the oldest team in the NFL, the Cardinals. So they were from Illinois, and then they went to St. Louis and then they ended up in Arizona. They're like a senior citizen, as you get older, you start to move warmer and warmer, right? They follow the moving habits of like someone who's retired. - Oh, yeah. - But the bears are such a crazy, you know, George Hallis, it's so crazy that it's only the NFC trophies named after him because he was really the, he was the first one to get a college player to play for the NFL. The Galloping Ghost, did you know that? Well, originally Pro Football was just farmers, and you know, there was no well-known names because there was no money in it. And college football was real popular, but going to college was even harder back then. So when you'd come out of college, if you had a degree, you had a real opportunity to earn money. - Oh, you were good, you would go work. Like, I'm not going to go screw, I can't go screw around to be irresponsible. - Which a bunch of these rednecks, and I'm going to go play football. No one's watching. So Hallis, he played for the Yankees, he was a baseball player. He went to Red Grange from the University of Illinois, and he said, I'll give you half the gate. If you come on a barnstorming tour, we'll go play places, and then people showed up, they'd go watch that. They'd go watch Red Grange, who was a big-time college player. And so when they got Red Grange to join, to play with the bears, they knew if they could get the college guys to come in, the fans would grow, and then the college guys were more open to it because you could pay 'em because you'd get the fans to fill up the stadiums. - Wow. - Then when they first did it, whatever college you were from, you would play for that local team, because the college would already be a fan of you, the people in the area would be a fan. - Right, so let's take it that way. - So then they started the draft after that, but George Hallis did everything. He was a player, he was a coach, he was an owner. He beat Lombardi as a coach in his heyday. One year, he coached the team and did well, but he started so much that's in the NFL today. Papa Bear, he was, he's really the, probably the most important figure in the NFL. - So it would be at George Hallis. It would be a shame in these from Chicago, so it would be a shame to see that team leave that city with that history for sure. But I hope they, I haven't really looked into it, but I hope they're able to figure it out and come to terms that work for everybody. But he's an amazing figure in sports, and they named the NFC trophy after him, the Hallis trophy. - Bring up that reg range picture. - Thank you, George Hallis, for your effort. Look at red grain, the galloping goes. Well, that's the other quarterback you could make the argument for is Otto Graham. He was from Waukegan, Illinois. When you look at him, it's crazy. I think he won, I could be wrong, but did he win seven championships in 10 years as a quarterback? I think he played for the Browns, right? Otto Graham. But here's what's interesting about him. He went to Northwestern, he hit, he was a, he had a 300 batting average in college. And that's when everyone played baseball 'cause baseball was the only way to make real money. It was king. And he played basketball in college, and I think he won what would be an NBA championship. He was like the six man on a pro team. So he won a championship in professional basketball, hit 300 in college. And I think as a quarterback, did he win seven championships in 10 years, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Is that right? Is that crazy? And you know, everyone wants to say the go-to-go, but you can't really compare Erida Erida. You know, Jordan said it's hard to say who the greatest of all time was 'cause it was different rules at different time. And one person learns from the next person. So Otto Graham dominated his era. Obviously Brady dominated his era. You know, and this guy. So it's so hard to compare Erida Erida, who was the best. I think sports always want to sell you now that you're watching the best ever because it sells tickets. Who doesn't want to feel like they're watching the best product ever? But it's a totally different game than it was back when you could hit a quarterback. When LT played. - Oh yeah. - So I'm not saying that it's not better that they've changed it. I'm just saying it's hard to compare one quarterback from an era to another. - Well they never had turf toe when we were growing up. Remember when did they come up with that? - No. - You know what I'm saying though? Like you've been over here a guy has turf toe. You would hear a guy toe was in pain. So he carved it off with his wife's nail clippers on the way to the stadium so he could still play. - Yeah, he was running a lot right. He took his finger off. - Yeah. - He ripped his finger off so he could play with a different era. - Yeah. Let me see that shit. - That's the fun thing I always laugh about. - That's crazy. - He's running a lot ripped his finger off. He's like, I'm going back in. - That's a dedication. That's not a hobby. But you know, that's what I always think is crazy. When you hear about boxers, what's the longest boxing fight of all time? - It used to be like 27 rounds. - I think some fought 100 rounds. Am I crazy? Could you jump rope for 100 rounds? For three minutes, no way. What's the longest fight? - I mean, it's probably the one in Gausset right now, but I'm not sure. - That's true. That's true. - That's true. Andy Bowen and Jack worked the longest boxing match and it was 110 rounds out because they used to fight until someone couldn't answer it. But at the end, we just whispering heavily at each other. Like how? - I think you're in the bathroom a lot. I don't even think anyone saw it. But so that's the thing that's crazy. And they would fight like, look how many fights these guys have. These guys would fight like 10 times a year. Now they're fighting twice a year. That's how many fights did Sugar Ray Robinson have? Did he have like 300 or something? Isn't that crazy? - Yeah, and now a guy will have maybe-
30, 30 because they they know they spaced it out. But how do you compare these guys? How many fight what was his record? I can't see at the Andy was 174 in 19 and six. So just about 200. Isn't that crazy? Oh my gosh. Children must have been stevia by the end of that dude. He had the aspartane beat out of it. You don't think he ever had he probably had a turf toe. He never knew. He probably had a turf head at a certain point dude. That's so crazy. But the difference was unbelievable. Why do you think someone could be like that? Well, this is the stuff that they're not. But this is it. I remember when my dad grew up and he go to the farm where his dad was because his parents were divorced on the summer. He go work the farm. But they didn't have any running water. So he said when they would pass they'd go down to the fucking creek and fill up the thing with water. They'd boil it and then dad would bathe then his older brother then him. But I wasn't that long ago. So if you go back then everything took physical strength. Just moving around. No one was sitting around playing Mario Kart in between games. Right. Your thumbs were at the strongest parts of your body. So you were always like just doing anything took so much energy and strength and you're using your muscles every day. So I think they train smarter. They know more. But there's more downtime and less strain on your body doing daily tasks. But back then these guys were just getting from place A to place B was exhausting. Yeah. But I don't know how you could fight 110 rounds. I don't know if you could do jumping jacks for 110 rounds. Yeah. It's so crazy. How did they do that? Remember they used to have 15 round fights and then they went to 12 because they thought 15 was too much. So I don't know how to compare. How do you compare someone? How do you compare someone from that era to this era? It's just a different time. It's impossible. It's a different sport. And also they say like the diet has gotten better and we have bet like if all these things have gotten better you think that they would be able to do it more. But then part of it probably has been that the commercialization of it has come in and like well let's only have it be here so we can have the viewership and have the sell the tickets then. So that could be part of it. Or understanding safety back then like you said they wouldn't even know what turf toe was. It was just you moved on. Oh every other person had a glass eye. When I was a kid every other person had a glass eye. Like if some guy was going to I remember at the fair or whatever when the fair would come. Yeah. You'd have a guy that would sit there and have a hat full of people's glass. I'd be like they you said it and therefore you went on the ride. They put their eyes out because they would just want a tilt or or yeah people that had one they like they leave their eye in the back. They leave it a little basket or whatever like basket for eyes and lose change or whatever exciting hometown. I never saw that. Get it when you come back out. But do you have four of them there at a time and I'm saying like people would be tough on a date. There'd be some rides you couldn't go on. Yeah. Maybe we're not going on the tilt or any honey. Let's go on the let's go on the what's that one that goes up real slow. Fair swear. The fairs we have. Isn't that the slow one where you kind of sit at the top. Oh yeah that's fair. That's what you're not going on that salt and pepper ride where you're fucking. No that was it going up and down. We used to do that with friends. We'd dare we go have like hot dogs or hamburgers and then at the end you'd dare someone can anyone eat all this for 20 bucks and someone would be desperate for money so they'd be like we don't kick it. They'd be like I want to have a shake. I'll eat those chili fries. I'll finish that chicken breast sandwich and then you'd say okay another 20 bucks if you go on that salt and pepper ride they fucking lose their shit. But yeah I mean it's it's a different it's so weird. I also think the food might have been healthier. Oh I remember they went through that whole stuff with the oil seed oil and we know it's bad for you. Yeah. But they went through a whole thing saying you should cook with that but that then people just cook them with butter. Yeah. I think the food was help that was more natural. It was butter. It was less it was less fucked up food in some ways. It's strong saliva dips bit. People would cook in it. Did you start dipping young? Yeah because I used to work on a farm so we would chew the club the like the block of tobacco like red man yeah like that would you like school win a green like the circular one? No no each plug tobacco. So we all we had to think that so we did like plug. When I first started as a kid we didn't know it was that bad for you. Because the new smoking was bad but you would think this wouldn't hurt your then they started showing pictures in the school of people missing their jaws but yeah but originally you thought it's not bad for your win but it was all like the school win a green like the the circle stuff. Oh yeah. And then but the red man was the leaf but the first time you do it you're going to vomit. Oh yeah. I puked out of my friends mom's car. All your kids are like here try this. Yeah. And then we'll watch you fucking bomb. Were you in a car? Yeah. I sat out of each window. I was like oh maybe I'm sick just at this window and I sat out of each window and puked out of each window. There's no way to keep it in more than two or three minutes. You're on the you're on the ground. It was the worst. It still makes me fucking sick. It was cherry skull or something. Do you remember the first alcohol you got really drunk on? Yeah dude of course. So I was climbing up a shelf from my brother's closet. I found a porno's and porno's up there. That was a surprise. You wouldn't expect them. It was a lot of surprises. It's one shelf I'd never had to. They had a little stack of houses. And you were you were a ground barrier and he was putting shut up. He was a mountain hider. Oh my god. This is where things are up here. Yeah. And I got up there and I remember this kind of like and I found liquor up there. Yeah. What was it? A lazee it was called. It was like a pretty more of an urban liqueur I think bring it up a bottle of it. It was considering an urban liqueur right there. The orange was so. Have you ever had it since? I've never had it since. That's how it is. My first drunk was peppermint snops and I never touched touch it again. I think the first time you get really drunk you never revisit that. Yeah. Ever. Ever. But the first time. How did you do it? Were you playing quarters? Or were you just drinking by your were you with friends? No. You by yourself. I'm myself. Oh. Climb up there. I remember drinking and then watching porn or whatever. And then I got you started off as a fun afternoon. We're like here 30 years later. It's still still been an issue. You know. Did you just go through like what? Like a quarter of a bottle or a couple of glasses? I think I had four sips. You're a dolphin and blacked out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You woke up with the evidence all around. You didn't even clean up the crime scene. We woke up. Yeah. With my glass eye in a hat. Yeah. Yeah. Friends were over here. I'm pissed that they left the house. Yeah. Mom. Can you believe some kick him over here jerked off on my stomach and drank some of this and left? Times have changed. With your new movie. If you could go Mike Nick Nick and Alice. Yeah. If you could go because your character kind of goes back in time to make something different. Right. Is there a time if you could go back in time that you would go back to kind of like I know it's a general question. It's kind of whatever. But you know it fits with the film man. Yeah. And it makes you think what would you go back to change because I think it used to be people like I go back and stop Hitler. I do go back and you know I go back and help Napoleon or do whatever you would or I go back and like being you know Jumanji one or whatever. Right. But then now it's like people I think would do individual things. Like I go back and you know buy a bit coin or something. You know. It's more realistic. Right. It's a crazy thing to think you're gonna go and be the one guy to fucking battle up. Go to the king and tell him to shut the fuck up. But no one else is. Like people always like that. It makes me laugh. Right. I go do the oh would you. Yeah. Maybe I'll go back and tell him. Yeah. Obviously no one's walking up to the guy and saying hey Hitler called that. Yeah. I'll be the guy. That's hilarious. Have you thought about in your life what you would do? Yeah. I think I would go back maybe to a certain time probably and I think I could have been better like in this one relationship I was in probably. That's a great that's a great thing that you feel that. But but I would say to you I had had those thoughts. But then I realized you have to travel down every road you travel down and you don't get to learn those lessons without making those mistakes. And so you're kind of in a good spot now. You're very reflective. You think about stuff. And so maybe if you hadn't gone through those things not that you want to you know get hurt or hurt anyone. But sometimes you got to go through those lessons. And so like what we were talking about earlier where I said you can ask for those things now you got to take that knowledge and bring that to your new thing. Yeah. And maybe you think if you went back but normally the person you were dating was sometimes had their own lessons to learn and that's why you found each other. And you can romanticize like what if we were each different people but you weren't and hopefully you're both better people from the experience. So I think you can not go back to that but you can take the lessons and have something great now. And I don't know that you would have been in that relationship with that exact person if you were a different person at that time. There was probably something with her going on too that that drew you guys together to teach each other that whatever that experience was. Make sense. Yeah. Yeah. No, it does make sense man. Yeah. I think there's just like a probably it's almost like an ego part of it once I think about it now from that. It's like yeah you just reach you go back and love somebody different. I love that. But you can love that person different now. And it's okay. Theo because you weren't you how would you have known that. Yeah. Unless you're going through it. It's like kids with you know sometimes you take something away from a kid and then you see him cry. You know if you're just playing with toys you go all that that doesn't feel good. But I don't know that you can learn that without seeing the response of somebody else. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I think that's the thing with the stahlja is you can get excited. I think about doing those things the right way now. So you're an nostalgia because you look back at those you don't want to hurt anybody. You wish you could have played it out differently. But it played out the way it was supposed to for where you and that person was at. And also it's our ego. We're not that powerful. Right. Like sometimes I don't know if you've ever suffered from this. But I I could really get caught up in trying to help friends. And then I realize I use so much time and energy. And I'm really not that powerful like I can't want them to change. In the same way that I probably had people try to help me and I wasn't ready to change. So you really can't get someone to a place that you think is right for them. You can say it once you can you know you can encourage them. Right. You can
give them grace and be there for them. But ultimately, you can't really make that kind of a big shift with them. Have you found that? Oh, yeah, for sure. You think you can, or there's times where it's like, yeah, I didn't try this enough or something like that. But yeah, yeah, I couldn't, because I think we're hurting. And so when we find better ways of doing things, we want everyone to have that. I don't know if you felt this way, but I don't know. Yeah, I had to go through a lot of it on my own. You know, like I had to learn those lessons and figure it out. Like the cavalry showed up and saved me. Not that I didn't have good people in my life. No, but everyone does. They have to go through those stages too. Yeah, you have to see something that surprises you enough, or you have to sometimes, you have to hit a level for you that's like this has to be different, you know? Right. But yeah, you can't, like you can offer suggestions, you can kind of show somebody, you can leave by example sometimes. And I think you can reflect on times when you handle stuff in ways that you feel good about. Yeah, I don't do enough of that sometimes. But I bet you have a lot of it. Yeah, probably I've seen good ones. Yeah, some really good ones. And as you get older, don't you think more and more? Yeah. And so that's that's what's in front of you. And so that's why I would say the nostalgia is I like that for myself too. But I realize at some point, I have to take those things and really try to do it with what's in front of me now. And I think you can have that exact relationship instead of saying, wasting time on saying, well, I'm older now. I should have started this younger. You can say, I know these things now. And I'm going to start it now. And I'm going to get a great experience based on the things I know. Because the other just takes you in a place where you're kind of not allowing it. Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah, I think it's making sure that you're learning from the past, you know? Yeah. And then you feel excited for what's in front of you. And you can't really go back and that's the thing with stuff. It's like you got to look at it and learn from it. You can't. But then at some point, you got to move forward. Yeah. You know, it's like anything. It's like a set. What did I do right? What did I do wrong? What should I have done? But at some point, you're good to move on and go to the next set. Because if you just dwell on that set, you can get stuck in it to the point where it's counterproductive. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a process for that of dealing with? Oh, for sure. Yeah. Do you have a good process now that you feel good about? I think it's gotten better. Yeah. I think even having conversations like this are probably helpful to be honest about it, you know? Same for me too. Having things that are like reminders and be like, yeah. And that's that it's yeah. And I think you can take the things that you've done well at that in your professional life and apply those same principles to our personal life. Yeah. Or try to. But I don't know that I would go back to answer your question because and I don't mean you care if you would ask me 10 years ago, I would have said, Oh, for sure, because I'm not saying there's not things I didn't handle really bad or things I regret. Of course there is. But I think I couldn't change those because I don't know that I would have come out as different or stronger or at least more thoughtful if I hadn't gone through those experiences. You got to walk down every road, I think. So I like the idea that I could go back. But maybe you fuck up some other shit. Yeah, yeah, that's a good. Oh, I think I just maybe would push the lesson till later. If I still make some of the same mistakes, it's not like, you know, you get you get better at it. I find that the time in between the mistakes is long, but they never go away all the way. And your reaction to them and give yourself a little bit more grace, but yeah, and make it sure you don't go down and making sure sometimes that you don't like maybe hurt other people as much, you know, you know, or just like you're more I could you're very thoughtful. I bet you don't do that very often. You're more respectful of their feelings anyway, not like actually hurt somebody, but I know what you mean hurt doesn't mean physical necessarily. It means that you made someone feel unloved or unwanted or appreciate it, like a bruise banana or whatever. Yeah, but you know, there's also a thing with being funny and connecting. It's a weird thing because I really enjoy teasing with friends sometimes. And if someone showed any weakness, we'd kill you until you didn't until it didn't bother you. Anything that bothered you, that was going to be the topic of jokes until you got over it. It wasn't our job to make you okay. That's a good point. You had to fuck it. And I think some of that was good. Oh, dude. It was the best, bro. We would fucking everybody would pick on you. Everybody, but everybody got it. You would all deal with it. And now everything is legit. Now it's more like bullying. Dude, I saw two Waymo's bullying a fucking Kia Serrento on the way here. And I was like nobody's helping this guy, you know, or whatever, this female, I don't know what to do with comedy. We were just brutal. Oh, so much. And if we knew it bothered you, it would, it would never stop. So it was a weird concept to me where I thought you're not making fun of each other. Yeah, we were just communicating. Yeah, even animals call each other names. I bet a lot. Yeah, you know, we just won't know it. They're at least signaling that they're not into what they're doing. Yeah. But your care trust to go back in time. I do want to make sure that I talk about your movie a little bit more, and then we'll get you out of here. And thanks so much for your time today, man. Oh, it's great to hang with you. I enjoy listening to you and appreciate, appreciate you. So it's fun to get a chance to sit and talk with you. Well, same man. Thanks for all the entertainment and inspiration. And like, yeah, just so much good humor over the years. Thank you. Back back at you. Yeah, because your care to go back in time, not really to help himself, though, kind of. That's right. Well, isn't it to help himself in a way like that's a good point. He doesn't love the way that he's handled stuff. Right. And he realizes the pain he caused. Well, you don't think that's what it's for in the beginning kind of. That's fair. You kind of get, yeah, like you get that as it goes along a little bit. I don't want to give away too much of a cause. There's a, there's moments in it that were very like a surprise. It's music. Oh, there's some good twists. Yeah. Yeah. But I think the concept's right. And I think all of us hopefully are that way. I don't know. I think people are happier when you're thinking about others more. And I don't say that in like a kind way, like I'm great. I mean, just, it's as a general feeling. You feel better when you are thoughtful of others in condition with them, then when it's all about you. We even signed different friends like that. We wouldn't hang out with somebody that would talk about themselves all fucking day. Yeah. Would you? Well, they didn't even have it as much now. No. You wouldn't be at the fucking. You wouldn't be included. Nobody wants to hear about how you don't want to hear how you're killing it all day. It's so weird. But you know what? I find now, like parents do with their kids. It's everywhere. Me, me, me. It's so crazy. It's just in general, I think there's way more of a, it's odd because you're mirroring the one hand that what we were talking about with this kind of better than now. But on the other hand, it's really kind of about ourselves more. It's a weird cultural moment. Yeah. Well, it's like, we just see so much reflection of ourselves, you know? And we don't have a lot of time to integrate. That's the one of the biggest things I noticed. It used to be like, you go see a movie or you would read a book or you would read some pages of a book or things like that. And then your brain and your heart and stuff would have time to integrate stuff. But now it's like, we'll get on our phone or there's a, there's a next thing, there's a next call. There's so much connection that you're not really processing. Are you good at downtime and processing? I'm getting better at it. That's great. Because I want it more. I start to realize, oh, there's so much peace in this thing, you know? It's like, yeah, there's just, it's almost there's nowhere to hide from the electronic. It feels like sometimes these days, you know? Sure. I could be guilty. You get stuff a game or something that you like. Yeah, it's been your phone, a game, a TV, another screen there and advertising, whatever, you know, even just a little Chinese guy that's just telling you something, you know? It's like, it never is. There's just like a lot of information coming at you. Do you have a good group of pals and people that you connect with and hang out with a lot in Nashville or here? Or is it more like everyone's in different locations? But I got to do a little bit better. I think I need to branch out a little bit more. I know good people. So I think sometimes I like my alone time. Do you? Yeah, but it can be isolating for me too. Sometimes I like to recharge. I like that. And then I do like to hang out. Yeah. But I'm not someone who wants to hang out four days a week. Did you feel a responsibility? Because you did those, you did that. It's fingers when we all get a Las Vegas, yeah. Yeah. And did you ever feel like a responsibility to people that were going in Vegas like some guy that got like GHB by a hooker or something. And it's like, I'm here because I've been, you know what I'm saying? Did you ever feel any like you ever lay in bed at night and be like, how many got like how many dudes are laying without a kidney and ice bath right now? No, I always looked at like storytelling and comedy. Like, you know, there, there, there are stories like campfire stories, same with comedy. So they're not like how two books, but people do that way. Yeah, but it's crazy. It's like, you know, I remember like when I would watch, you know, you know, fun movies, they were escapism. But I never, we were never so fucking dumb that we were like, oh, they're telling me, like, I got to go out and risky business. I got to go get some hookers and fucking get into Harvard. Like they were, they were having fun with, they were having fun with what was going on at the culture. Right. So like in that movie, it was the mom and dad are like, you got to go to Harvard, you can't fucking have a party. And he's like, I'm a fucking horny teenager. I'm looking to, I'm looking to fucking mix it up. Like I'm living right now. And so the idea of that was the thing that was a problem saying what the fuck and running hookers as a pimp for the suburban kids. That's actually the thing that got them into Harvard, right? It's a crazy movie. But we never were like, oh yeah, these guys are my parents and they're telling me, I better go fucking start a brothel out of my fucking basement and go back to basements. Like no, it was escapism. It's fun. So like swingers is a, it's really about, you know, friends helping a friend get past a breakup. Yeah. And uh, but you know, who wants to watch perfect people? These are people that have some good, some bad. And that's the journey of the story where you go through people and you get to learn from what they did right or what they did along. If you go back to like even the Bible or Greek mythology, some of these These morality tales, it's like someone does this, and here's the consequence.
of it. They're not all stories like everyone's doing everything right. Most of these human stories are someone made a decision based on ego or what was important in the moment and they paid the price. Right. And I was going to keep pushing important stories. Yeah. Well, there were, like moral tales, like ASAPs fables they had when I was a kid, like they had different things like that. I wonder if they still have that stuff for kids, because there was a lot of stuff that was like kind of common in culture that was where you would learn things from. But yeah, if you watch Forest Gump and you go out and break both your legs so you can- You can run across the country. Then I guess you're like Forest and some- I mean, I never took that series. It's like, where are the parents at? Yeah. You know, it's like same with albums. We were kids. They started putting these warning labels on an album. Oh, yeah. Pernal Advisory. Remember that? It was like Tipper O'Neill, or something. They were put like these- said, "Pernal Advisory is a black and white city." But that would make us buy it. Yeah. It's like, "Let me hear that fucking undermining." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Pernal Guidance. But like as kids, we weren't like- when I was listening to NWA, this wasn't like a fucking how-to manual. Yeah. I was digging someone having a strong opinion on a polygetic from their experience. I was like, "Fuck, I want to- let me fucking listen to that." That's fun. Yeah. We were never so fucking dumb. That's part of the problem that they make it- I was like, "Everyone's so fucking stupid that if you see like any kind of movie or story that it's somehow encouraging kids to do it." Yeah. It's like, "Shut the fuck up." I'm gonna listen to rock and roll and watch some people make some bad decisions on the laugh. Like, when did that become a thing? Like if you do a set-out, you're funny. I hear your shit. You got lawsuits. That's what did it probably. People sued for a thing probably. But yeah, if you got so attached to you're like, "Oh, I believe this, now I'm in a-." Like, when you do your sets and I enjoy, sometimes you're going further with a point of view to get a point across. You're not hoping you're reaching some fucking eight-year-old kid to go follow- You know what I mean? You're like- Right. Yeah. That's all a bunch of kids. You're being entertaining and fun. And I think there's a place for that. I think if anything, that's what got on the way was that everyone started to put these things on a microscope. Like, I don't know. Like when we were kids in school, if we go to the auditorium and they would give us like a safety film on fucking bicycles, we'd just make fun of that shit all day long. Oh, if I'm not telling kids to go out and, you know, but everyone's got to assume whatever risk you want to take. Like everyone's different. You got to decide, are you going to cross the highway? Because you want to get to that candy store and try to dodge the cars? No one should do that. Yeah. But everyone ultimately is going to make their choices. Yeah. And there'll be people that do and people that don't, you know? Right. But yeah, I saw a bike video and I was like, first of all, I'm never wearing a bike helmet because I understand it's safe. I know it is, but I don't want my children to see me in a bike helmet because it's culture. My son and I would never be able to make eye contact the same way. I mean, now all the kids have to, we know what the fuck that was. And in a way, I think it kept us, in some ways, this is, but I felt like I was safer because I could try to jump that. Yeah. But there ain't no fucking way I'm going to jump that. Yeah. Because the helmet, yeah, like we knew I made, I make it some fucking scabs and shit and hit my face. If I put like, you know, a wooden board on two things, but I'm not doing five because I don't have a fucking helmet. Like it was self regulatory. You got me all fucking Michelin man and dressed up. I might try to go back like evil and try to jump the fucking snake river. But I'm just saying like entertainment and stories, you know, I think have fun with it and you should watch it. But I mean, really? What percentage of the population thinks that it's a how-to book? Yeah. And by the way, do we cater everything to the fucking excuse me naive kid who's looking to jump on any story he sees like that's the way to live his life. It's kind of what we do. It's kind of what we've done anyway. Right. And hopefully that's kind of correct in course. We can't watch Judy Harry because you think you can just go fucking shoot a criminal without talking to him. I was escaped. You're like, yeah, that motherfucker. You know, I mean, like you like it as a story. Yeah. But that's what it was. Yeah. But I think everyone kind of got that more like I wasn't listening to. No, but I wasn't listening to rock and hip hop and shit. Right. But I think it was lawyers that did it. They're like, oh, this is this is what happened. We're the do-gooders. And maybe they meant well. Right. But don't you create a whole other series of problems because if you can't express those feelings through movies and songs, where do those feelings go? Yeah. Like if storytelling and stand up or movies isn't the place to express podcast, if we can't express ideas, there are feelings. What do you do with those? You just you can't have those feelings. It's crazy. Oh, I think one day a smile will be in a museum and you go to see it, you know, I really do. I don't think so. I think I think I don't think. I hope not, too. You don't, ultimately, I know you don't. I don't think I really, that's kind of just a warning of. Right. I think we're getting close. We're going to push against. If you want to see feelings, you have to go to a museum. Oh, this was happiness. Look, children. I think these kids sometimes, I think there's a place for, for, I think it's good. I'm not saying it's all. Yeah. The pendulum always goes too far in one direction. I think it's good to have skills to talk about stuff. But it's always a little bit like this. Like if you have a breakup with a girl that's bad and we're friends, I'm going to clear the decks or other friends are going to do it. And we want to hear everything you got to say about this breakup. And we're going to give you our perspective and we're going to really focus on it. And that may go on for a week. But after three weeks, you're not allowed to talk about it anymore. There's nothing else to say. We got to drop it and move on. You got to get in a new bad relationship. You know, I mean, like we can't keep talking about that. And so I think what happened sometimes is we're indulging, talking and exploring it. There's a time to do it. You need to do it. But at some point, if you're always bringing up the stuff, you just kind of stay depressed. Yeah. Like there's a process to digesting it. And then there's a process of pushing it away and trying to get into something new. But if you're only focused on it, it just doesn't go away. We're kind of getting addicted to self-pity to it that point in a way, you know? Or you're just always living in that and it's going to make you sad. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's something that's kind of like been kind of a society of just a weird tour that we took in society of like, you know, that there's something always wrong with us, you know? But who isn't there something wrong with? Hopefully everybody has something wrong with it. As you get older, you start to go, my God, everyone's a little nuts. Yeah. Like we're all holding it together. But if you see people by themselves, like there's no one, you would be like, that guy's like at home living. You know, I mean, like everyone's got shit that's crazy. Oh, hopefully. Hopefully. Dude, the best thing is imagining that people are at home just fucking, you know, putting lips on. Urban the core. Yeah. Urban the core. It's French. And hopefully some French magazine. Yeah. Closed. Closed. I think it was called lick club. Your movie comes out on Hulu March 27th. And, um, and oh, Jimmy Tattro is in it. His character is hilarious in it. Yeah. He's a great guy. Yeah. He's funny. He's a cool guy. And, um, he said Marsden. They're all good in it. That's a little lady in it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's real foxy. Yeah. And then the other guy James Morrison, Mike, he was cool. Yeah. He's good actor. He's good actor. Yeah. He did a good. A lot of good facial stuff. And like a lot of like, yeah, he's like good looking, but he also is entertaining. He reminds you a roblo a little bit. That's interesting. I could see that. Yeah. Handsome guy. Likeable. Right. But also like not just be in hand. Yeah. Yeah. Not just being handsome. Yeah. Um, Vince want thanks so much. I think everything will great to sit with you. Nope. Yep. Yeah. I'm excited for the Bears next season. Maybe we'll be cheering them. Cool. Is that your. Is that kind of my doctor? Yeah. Just because we grew up so much. I grew up there watching like, you know, like the only baseball teams that existed were like, uh, Cubs and Braves. Cubs Braves. Cardinals though. Like collecting like nominated Ozzie. A Smith cards. Coleman. Yeah. Oh, uh, Rons Coleman. Vince Coleman. Ozzie. Smith. Who are dominant? Cardinals were always. Do you ever hung out on Mark Grace before? I met him. Yeah. He's great guy. He's the best. He is the best stories. Yeah. He's a hell of a player. Oh, he was so good. But those were the times Andre Dawson, all those guys. Rock, cut, Cliff. I'm believe it. Greg Maddox. I love that team. That was like that. There was like only three or four teams that existed. It felt like. Yeah. They were popular. Yeah. I had personalized. But Cardinals have been good forever. They're always find them that lately. Not as much. But they've always been dominant. Cubs, as you know, was a long story. So it was a big deal when we finally won. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you thought of all the Titans at all, um, I wish they would draft Diego Pavia for the same reason that we said that he played at Vanderbilt. He crushed it there. I think how fun was that kid to watch? So much for him. Dude, I love that dude spirit. I love watching that boy play kid from my high school played, played wide receiver forums. Oh, really? Yeah. Younger than me because he's playing now, obviously. His name felt like some 50 year old had some eligibility on his fucking years. Well, they probably give him a chance. His last name was Hoshka. I knew his sister real well. Bro, Richie's a dog. He was good, right? Dude, he caught a couple. He caught some passes that only he could catch, bro. Yeah, there he is. Yeah, they worked. I knew his, I knew his, his aunt would, it would have been my grade. He was a nice guy. But he played for him. So I watched. I, you know, I got my high school puts on a lot of really good athletes. People that still to this day, like forced high school public high school and Illinois and a lot of, a lot of people do well. But yeah, but this was, this was exciting year for Vandy. And that quarterback, Diego Pavia, yeah. Bro, he was like this. I'm gonna go to his truck. Oh, he's like, come and get it. Yeah, he was super fun to watch. And they come up. He's going pro now. Is he done? Yeah. He's training right now done in Tampa. What are you transfer from? I mean, transferred from New Mexico state. And then before that, New Mexico school of mine, I think he could have gotten one more year, actually. But he's gonna strike why the iron's hot. He's already in. Yeah, he's already going in. He's not tall. Well, that's the thing. They came out and said,
said that and was like, so you're telling me he did this great at not even the same height as some of these other guys. It's true. Sometimes that, sometimes that motivates you to get better at, well, wait, he was that in a way, right? He didn't hit the prototype. Yeah. And made a more Carter. Yeah. I mean, being tall wasn't his thing, but they also made it like, but he obviously, sometimes the thing that they label you as a disadvantage makes you stronger because you have to work harder. Yeah. But that dude's a winner, bro. He does it. That's the thing. Who do you want to bet? You want to bet on somebody that wins every time they say you can't. At an academic school in the SEC at Vanderbilt, I mean, you're playing big time football every week. When's the last time Vanderbilt was in that position? Never. And so the fact that this kid was a part of that with a lot of other great players and did that. Well, that's that intangible quality that has to mean something. And that's the shit that's just getting lost in this evaluation. Yes. Always in everything. It's like stupid. Yeah. It is a place for it. Yeah. But not the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I'm glad we all got that out of our systems. Me too. Dude, thank you. Yeah. I appreciate you too, Vince. Thanks so much, man. And we'll check it out. Everybody's on Hulu. March 27th. [MUSIC]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Vince Vaughan reflects on his journey from hiding money as a child to investing in real estate as a tangible, growing asset.
He shares how buying rental properties allowed him to generate steady income while aligning with his instinctual sense of neighborhood value.
He recalls childhood memories of hiding money in his backyard and playing with toys like the Stunt Cycle and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, highlighting a playful, imaginative upbringing.
He describes a formative basement experience where imagination led to fear, illustrating how creativity can be both a blessing and a source of anxiety.
Vince discusses the evolution of stand-up comedy, noting how it has become more competitive and ideologically polarized, with less room for diverse expression.
He emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and personal growth in building relationships, especially as a parent and in seeking meaningful partnerships.
He highlights the value of community and shared experiences, such as family outings and childhood games, in shaping personal identity.
Vince celebrates his new movie, *Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice*, praising its stylized, sci-fi-comedy direction and the challenge of playing dual roles that feel authentic and distinct.
Summary:
Vince Vaughan reflects on his life journey, from childhood antics like hiding money in the yard and playing with vintage toys to making thoughtful financial decisions through real estate investments. He shares how his instincts about neighborhoods guided his real estate choices, creating a stable, tangible income stream. Early memories of imagination and fear in the basement illustrate how creativity shapes personal experiences—both exciting and unsettling.
He discusses the evolution of stand-up comedy, noting how it has become more politically divisive and self-important, losing some of its inclusive, playful spirit. Vince emphasizes personal growth, especially in parenting and relationships, where he values emotional authenticity over ideological alignment. He recalls joyful childhood moments, like playing hide-and-seek or riding bikes with friends, which reinforced his sense of community and connection.
His new movie, *Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice*, is a stylized sci-fi comedy where he plays two distinct characters, a creative challenge he found both fun and meaningful. Through these experiences, he underscores the importance of self-awareness, community, and balance—both in personal life and in the evolving world of comedy.
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Vince Vaughan's new movie, 'Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice,' is available on Hulu on March 27th.
He invested in rental properties because they provide tangible, monthly income and allow him to grow wealth while living in a property that appreciates in value.
He believes buying a home is more practical because you live in it and benefit from its appreciation, unlike the stock market, which you can't live in.
He played two distinct characters in the movie, which he described as a fun and experimental experience due to the sci-fi twist and stylized direction.
As a child, he hid money in friends' homes, played with toys like the Stunt Cycle and wrestling figures, and had vivid imaginative experiences, especially in the basement.
He grew up in Illinois with his father, a salesman who sold toys and had a collection of items like the Stunt Cycle and outdoor bathtubs, which shaped his early interests.
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