#636 - Jason Momoa

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A little bit of pour some sugar on me? Yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. And I don't even think they have sugar, which is the craziest part. So just down there listening to songs about illegal ingredients. That's all they're doing, dude. Jason, thanks for hanging out, man. Thanks for having me, buddy. We met at the 50th. I think it was the 50th SNL. Yep. I just remember I was walking and then this big, like kind of, I would say semi-beautiful hand just grabbed me. This thing that definitely, and immediately I felt like I hadn't been in the gym. That was like my immediate feeling. And then it just like pulled me into like this orbit and it was like, Hey man, nice to see you here. And that was it, dude. But it was awesome. This is great to see you, man. Yeah. It made my day. You make people smile. You make me smile. So I'm like, when you see that, like it was a bit of an overload there. It was a lot. And I feel like once you're talking, yeah. Like when you're with Meryl Streep and Robert De Niro is on one thing. And then, you know, I freaked out when I saw Chevy chase this grant, this, this older lady's like, come here, darling. You're you're the Aquaman. I was like, yeah. And she's like, Chevy, get over here. Chevy, get over here. I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is Chevy Chase's wife. And then she's like, Bill, get over here. And I'm Bill Murray. Oh God. Chevy Chase and Bill Murray. I'm and I'm just going like this, this beautiful one brought this together. Bill's like, who the fuck is this guy? And she's like, and, and so was, uh, so is Chevy. And he's like, that's, that's the Aquaman girl. Grandchildren love him. Oh yeah. But you just go like, it was, there it is. Oh, that's cool. See, in my mind I was sandwiched right there. I'm a little bit more of the bun. Yeah. You seem like more of a bun, you know, or like a nice rye or something, a pumper nickel. So, but we were, uh, that was, it was just a, it was a crazy, yeah, that was a lot, man. I met Hanson. Hanson was there. Yeah. They look like adult Hanson kids or whatever. Cause what do you want? What year are you born? I'm born in 1980. I'm 79. There we go. So we know what Hanson's look like when they were bopping it out. Yeah. We know the real Hanson. Yeah. I just gave my son a crisscross cross colors that you remember that brand. It's like, it was just this brand that I had when like crisscross came out and my son didn't know what it was. And it was a year. It was the, and, uh, was it the year you were born baby when it came out? 82. Yeah. I think it was too. I get crisscross cross colors. Anyways, I just gave it to my son and I was just dating myself, man. But it was, it was a, it was a moment. I've been unpacking my, uh, my old stuff and giving it to my son and he loves it because all that stuff's cool again. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. Things come back around. Yeah. Uh, you grew up in Hawaii. I was born in Hawaii. Yeah. And my parents, my parents, my parents, my parents, my parents, my parents got divorced when I was little and I moved to Iowa, but like, you know, bridges of Madison County, Iowa, like dude, Meryl Streep bridges of Madison County. Boom. One of my favorite books, the book and the movie it's identical. It's like word for word. Um, yeah. Every, the, the, the movie is the exact way of the book. So not that that matters. I'm like graduated, you know, did you go to university of Iowa? No, no. I actually went to, we'd like to make fun of it. University of Southern Ankeny. I went to DMACC Des Moines area community college. Oh, and then went to still open. It is DMACC. And then I went off to get in-state tuition in Colorado and I went, I was living out in Colorado state and I was working with the trail crew out there and working at Lee's Cyclery and Bizetti's and all these different bus and tables and shit, trying to get in-state tuition, trying to postpone college as much as possible. And then trying to postpone it or stay in it. Well, I just try to get in-state tuition so I could do wildlife biology there. But I want, I went to school. It's weird because when I was in Iowa, I did marine biology. I went to a place called central campus where all these different schools would go into Des Moines and you would learn marine biology. And I'd have like a shark tank set up at my own eel. And you'd learn about all these different things that I always want to be a marine biologist. And we'd spend our spring breaks down in the keys. So we get in the yellow bus, go all the way down to from fucking Iowa, all the way down to the keys. That's so far. Yeah. And, uh, and we'd study with scientists, but I did that two years credit for college, but I, and then I was going to go like, ah, over summertime, I was like, I'll go to Hawaii. He says, I'm Hawaiian. Maybe I'll get a better deal going to college. And a TV show came and I was just surfing with my family and a big, a big, pretty big surf family. So we, um, and then a show came and I ended up getting it and it changed everything. I was 19. And you were working. So that, but they had the ant. Oh my God. That's him. Yeah, dude. No, no, no. Don't what? Get some lotion out. To rub on the picture. Uh, guys, dude, that's wildly. You got to live. That was crazy. My life, my job before that was bus and tables. Yeah. I bus tables, bro. I was for one of the first busters to ever use creatine in Arizona, south of Phoenix. I was one of the best bus boys there was, I think for probably about a two and a half year period. I went to university Arizona for one year and then I went to some other schools, but, um, dude, I was, oh, I was so good. I was, I was so, I was so good at bussing tables, man. Yeah. Well, I would take all the food. Cause I worked at really nice, nice restaurant and we were all my buddies that lived together. There's a bunch of climbing dirt bags and I bring this nice pasta home. Cause you know, if the, if the, if the, the couple didn't look too sus and they left their stuff, you know, you just box that in and bring it home. And so I always had like the best restaurants pasta, dude, I worked at a place called Dakota's wine and feed. And the guy there was taught, like there was this perverted manager who would kind of teach us how to do like, he would like kind of like oral sex on women, but just like in conversation, anyway, that guy was a complete pervert, but I will not in person, not with a real woman. Just, he would like tell us young kids, like how to do it and stuff. And we didn't know what was going on, dude. Like I remember when he would talk about it, all the pimples on my face would like explode at once. Um, but, um, anyway, that was beside the point, but they had very nice food there. And I remember if I'd see a couple, if they use their knife, that to me was like, oh, they're fancy. I can eat off of their plate. Yes. So if the knife was dirty, I would definitely take a little bit of that, like some cured ham or some specialty meats on there. And I'd get a stack of like some like special sandwich that was made of all types of stuff. It was nice. That's back, um, feeding the homies. Yeah. And back then it's like, when you're out of your mom's house, your first time out, you're like orange juice was like champagne. If someone had orange, I was like, oh my God, I haven't had orange juice and. Cause it all went to beer and fucking booze. Yeah. Right. Milk. Never saw it again. Fuck milk. And then it was basically water beer. My dad still kind of had to pay child support. So that was like that paid rent. And I, I could just save enough bus and tables where I could work just Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I go rock climbing and snowboarding. So it'd be Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, come back. So I had like four, I had a little plan, you know? And, uh, were you with like a certain group of friends from growing up or was it just like, is it like a, still like a core group or was it just guys? I didn't have too many friends growing up. And, uh, I mean, I had friends, but true buddies there, they're in my neighborhood, but they stayed there. There's one guy. He is, uh, my best friend to this day, Godfather, my kids, he went out to Colorado first. So he was one year older. And then I went out there to be with him and he was my, yeah, he's my best bud. So we, it was just us running, running the monk. So much fun. Colorado is so awesome. It is. It was good. God. I love being out there is that the altitude always gets me so much, dude. I get affected pretty easily by the environment. Um, it's gotta be hard for you to go from Nashville to here. Cause you can't drive. Like I just came from New Zealand right now. And last night I'm like, I felt sorry for my lady. Cause I'm just like, I'm wheezing right out. Like just shedding a skin in the bed. I mean, it's summer down there. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, dude. New Zealand is a dude. I met people. I'm like, what are you talking about? You're not using any letters. They have people there. It's like, I think that's Australians, but yeah. Oh, we went to New Zealand. We had some shows down in Auckland and we met. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We went to New Zealand. We had some shows down in that Pete is just like, We met guys who, like, it was like they had a sentence stuck in them. They just couldn't get it out of them no matter what. Like, the people there that talked were just – anyway, it was just some of the craziest lingo I'd ever heard. But one of the most beautiful places, we went to – we got to meet Israel Adesanya down there because he lives there. Yep, stylebender. Yep, and they were super nice to us whenever we went over there. But we went to the beach one day, and they said you can only be outside of the beach for a certain amount of time because they don't have that much marine – or they don't have – They don't have the ozone. Ozone layer. You're fried. Dude, I was like, it's so beautiful, but you got to go back inside. I know it never told me to go back inside, but, I mean, yeah, if you're sitting out there, you're going to feel it. Like, you just feel yourself cooking. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah, well, at a certain point, you should go in, I think. Yeah, you definitely should. Or just stay out there and grill, maybe. So you went from Des Moines Community College, DMACC. Yep. And then you ended up over in Colorado. Yep, I went to Colorado and then went to Hawaii to get to – just to kind of be on my phone. My father gets to know him better and – Was he cool? My dad's great. My dad's – he's awesome, but just – I'd go there when I was young, like 8, 9, 10. Like, basically, when I was young enough to comprehend it, where I didn't have to be with my mom. And then I'd go until, like, high school years. We had probably a bit of a falling out, so I didn't go too much in maybe my sophomore, junior, senior year. So once I – I was like, I'm going to go back, be with Dad, bury the hatchet, and see if I can get into college over there. And then, like I said, the show came and changed my life. And then I kind of tried to, you know, tell my mom, like, I'm on this show. And she's like, what are you talking about? You know, like, my mom's in the same house I was raised in. Wow. She's like, what are you doing? Are you doing something with Satan? I know. She's like, you're on Baywatch Hawaii? I was like, Mom, I'm like, it's not what you think. It's like a whole different spin on it. They're in Hawaii. It's not – and she's like, what? It's a whole different spin. They're in Hawaii. Yeah, I know. I mean, Hasselhoff wasn't really on it anymore. But they're trying to change it. They're trying to change it up. So, anyways. Dang. And then I spent, you know, the next 30 years digging myself out of that hole. Yeah. Cheers to that. And here we are now. And so your mom is a white woman and your father is more islander? My dad's Hawaiian, yeah. Kauka Maldi. And my mom is basically German-Irish. Is there a lot of beef between Hawaiians in Hawaii? Are there different kind of sects of – like, S-E-C-T-S of Hawaiians? Like, different kind of like – or is it if you're a Hawaiian, you're Hawaiian? I mean, that's a good question. I wouldn't say it's like sex. Definitely, you know, back in the day, there was different islands with different kings until it was united by Kamehameha. But not everyone loved Kamehameha. You could have been with Kahikili. You could have been different – you could have been with different islands. And that – obviously, to unite them, your family could have been murdered. So I don't think everyone sees eye to eye. But having said that, like, we are – you know, since we are a part of America now, like, I think all those generations, you know, our culture and our language was completely removed from us, like most indigenous races. And, you know, really trying to get it back. And I don't necessarily think there's, like, sex to it. Right. Yeah. So it's not like – so people aren't, like, that tribal. I mean, the tribal would not be in Hawaii. I'll tell you what. Not as much as, like, if you were to compare it to New Zealand where there's – I don't – don't quote me, but there's – there's 200-plus different Iwis, different tribes in Marais. Oh, yeah. I met some Iwis over there. Yeah. Whereas the South Island, there's one. Like, Naito, who's just one tribe on the South Island, the North Island has many. So it definitely has to go through a lot more if you're trying to agree on certain things. Like, it's got to go through more people. Yeah. So that's what you mean, yeah. Got it. And did your dad have a – like, is he, like, a very Hawaiian kind of guy? Very much so. He – really? Yeah. I mean, in the sense of, like – Because there's so much pride in that culture. It's such a unique culture. Yeah. I come from the west side of Oahu. My dad lives in Nanakuli. Most of my family's, like, Nanakuli, Waianae, and then Makaha. And that whole west side is called Hawaiian Homestead Land. So it's, like, our reservation kind of – kind of thing. And so – but my father's very much a waterman. And in that sense – What does that mean? He likes to be out in the water? Yeah. Or is that a specific job? Outriggers, paddling, surfing. He was a coach. And, I mean, just any – a waterman as in knowledge of sailing, knowledge of – Anything out there. And you're Aquaman, which is crazy. Which is crazy. That's crazy. It is. And I've always wanted to – my family's very much – some of the last living legends of surfing or – of watermen is, like, my great-uncle's Buffalo Keolana. Bring him up. See if we can get a gander at him. Buffalo Keolana. And Brian Keolana's an amazing waterman, too, who's my cousin. And Rusty's a four-time world champion. So I just come from a very – the Keolana. The Keolana's. Oh, wow. That's Uncle Buff. Hell, yeah, dude. Beautiful Hawaiian man, yeah? Yeah. I think I've seen him on the pictures of the bronzer at the tanning salon as well. I think – I'll just say – I'll just say this. They're using his name, image, and likeness over there, okay? It's Suntan City. I'll say that fast. He's beautiful, yeah. Dude, that's awesome, bro. Yeah, I always wanted to, yeah, be with him. But that's kind of – that's the family. And he still lives over there? He does, yeah. Wow. Oh, that's beautiful, man. Yeah, I just want to do Hawaiians. I just feel like – it seems to me like Hawaiians always feel like a responsibility to uphold their culture kind of or that they're Hawaiian. Like there just seems to be like a certain like level of respect that they carry about themselves with that. I think that's true. I think there's a lot of things that have happened to our people that have – it's been very challenging in what's happened and getting our identity back and our culture back and our language back. So there's – I'm sure there's – There's a lot of – there's a lot of things, yeah. There's a lot of terror and trauma that's happened to the Hawaiian Islands. Dang. There's a lot. Yeah, I think when you have something beautiful, people want it, you know? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It's so nice over there, dude. Dude, I even remember one time I was drowning over there and I remember being like, where else am I going to drown? Like it was so nice. I remember looking back at the shoreline. Literally, I was snorkeling and I wasn't doing well. I was losing. And I remember looking back at the shoreline and I thought I was going to drown. And I was like, what – dude, where else are you going to drown? You know, are you going to drown in a Hampton Inn pool somewhere like, you know, outside of Jacksonville or something? No, dude. This is where you do it, you know? And so there was almost this crazy moment of peace with just how beautiful it was there, you know? It's a really special place. Where were you at when you were drowning, man? I was off of – I was in Maui. Was there waves? Was it just because of deep water? There were waves, but it was like – Oh, yeah. I went snorkeling and it was by myself. And – bad idea, huh? Yeah, it's bad to do anything, yeah. Go in the water and do that by yourself. Yeah. And that's what I realized. But it was fun, yeah. It was kind of fun. And I remember I got out there a little bit and I was like, oh, man. And then I would see the fish. But then the water would go down and then I would just be like almost like trying to like not get on the coral or whatever, like being like that. Yeah. And then we'd go back. It was just like – it just got super scary. And then I was further and further out and I started getting really, really spooked. Yeah, well, it was just different. And then the surf rips, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I caught a bad rip. I think, yeah, every surfer, you know, everyone drowns. Have you ever been in a drowning before out there? Very much so. No way. Yeah, I've drowned. And it's just – I mean, it's a beautiful teacher, man. The oceans of – I mean, she's the ultimate teacher. So it sucks. Drowning sucks. Yeah. There's no way about it, yeah. Yeah, RIP, man. You just see your slow death. It sucks. Everything flashes in and you can't move your arms anymore and you're going down. And you can't breathe. That's when I used to smoke a lot. I smoke cigars still, but it took me a while to get back to it. But I used to smoke like two packs a day. I was pretty – What? Just love, love, love. Like roll – and then I'd try to slow down. I'd be like roll a pouch and then I'd burn a pouch in a day. Just – Just roll it on yourself? I just loved tobacco. Damn. I can't believe I was a damn smoker. That's inspiring, actually, dude. You can do anything, people. And that was the hard one to quit. I mean, that's – Oh, that's hard. I'm not very sure of shit, but it's like I think smoking – Smoking was – I couldn't stop for my family. And then when I drowned, someone took my breath. I came out of that water and that thing died. And, I mean, I tried really hard to stop many times. And I came out, and if I tried to smoke, I'd vomit. Like it might – that part of me just died because it took my breath and I had to go through it. And then the reason I didn't – I got saved is I actually hit the outer reef because I was – Over a half a mile off shore. It's just there's two reefs. So I was on the outer reef of Maui and it was doing, you know, some coast paddling and I hit the reef and it just touched my toe. And I just bubbled down, grabbed the reef and just jumped up and then got hit another wave and I just held on to the reef and waited. I was out there for a while. Dang. Who rescued you? I was with Laird. I was out surfing with Laird and – I saw him once at a Whole Foods. Yeah. It sounds on point. Is that on brand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, and Dave Kalama and my friend Joe Flanagan. Yeah, but it was – my leash snapped and I was stuck out in the middle of the ocean. So it was just very windy and took the board and I was gone. And smoking was done for you? Yeah. Never, never, never smoked again. Damn. Look at you guys over here. Just type quick and get it up. Boom, boom, boom. Yeah, I was looking at your new film. It's called The Wrecking Ball. crew almost - I'm excited for you to see it. It's funny. - I saw it. - Oh, you did? - Yeah. - Oh, thank you. - I've seen it, dude. I know the premiere was last night, so sorry I missed that. But no, I saw it on my computer. They sent me a screener of it. Yeah, dude, it's great. And it's so beautiful. It's so nice to be able to just, you feel like you're in Hawaii for a while. - Yeah, you know, it's just the movies we grew up with, right, "Lethal Weapon," "48 Hours," all these things, buddy cop movies. - Yeah. - I did a TV show with David Bautista. He played my brother in "C" on Apple. - Oh, yeah, and he plays your brother in this, go on, sorry. - Yeah, yeah, and we just were really, got really close, and it's like, you know, in this business, when you meet someone you really like, you're like, oh, we should, in the next one, it'd be fun to do a comedy instead of "Covered in Blood" and us beating each other, and it was, so I had this pitch to him, and now it's been for two decades. One of the first things I ever wrote is a pitch packet, and told him, and then the next day, he just posted it and put it out there and went viral. And-- - What about you guys doing it together? - Yeah, and then attached David Leitch to it, and basically, this is what we're doing, do you like it? And everyone freaked out, and my agent's calling me, going like, what are we doing? And the next morning, I'm like, Dave, I didn't even know that Dave would do that, and Dave just did it. - I like that. - It's like me going like, yeah, me and you were doing "Twins," you know what I mean? It's just that he just put it out there, and-- - Fraternal twins, too. - Yeah. - And people are like, I don't know. - I don't know. - People are like, this is like before and after, yeah. - And so, anyways, and our showrunner, Jonathan Tropper, ended up writing it, and yeah, it's just a fun movie that we wanna, I wanna do, laugh a little more, and it'll make you, you know, it'll make you cry. Working out the family trauma, you know, that kind of stuff. - Yeah. - It's never too late. - Yeah, yeah, there's some sweet stuff in it. The action is really great, I loved it. I mean, it's just, it's a nice, easy, it's an easy movie to watch, and it's just super enjoyable, and it's beautifully shot, it's just like, and it's just in Hawaii, just like, oh, if you can't afford to take your wife to Hawaii, take her to see this movie. - That's the best pitch. - Hey, look, it's not bad. - She spent too much money this weekend, can't quite take her on vacation, The Wrecking Crew, you're welcome. - Look. - Jason Lowe, thanks, bro. - Just put a little cocoa butter on her arm, and take her to see The Wrecking Crew. Tell her it's the same thing, okay? You gotta tell her it's the same thing, man. Was there ever a movie role where you liked it kind of so much, or the environment that you were at you liked so much that you're like, I wish I could stay here, I wish this was my life, kind of? - That's an interesting question. Where you just wanna stay in that time period, or in that place. - Yeah, or even as that person, even. - You know, I did this show, Chief of War, that came out last year, and I think it was really cool, because it's all about-- - It's on Apple TV? - It's all about Hawaii, yeah. It's like when they're uniting the kingdoms. And it's really beautiful to be in Hawaii before the white man arrived, and just kind of see that time and place, and see what our people are like, our ancestors. It was so special to make that show, 'cause you know, you grow up in Iowa, and you watch Last of the Mohicans and Braveheart, and you see all these things like, oh, I would love to see my culture. I love samurai movies, or Native American movies, and all we had was paintings. My grandparents, they've never seen a movie with us wearing all the regalia. And going into the big battles with no metal. I mean, it's just brutal battles. - The UFC. - To the next level. - Yeah, before they had it. - Fucking shark teeth, dude. Yeah, like you're ripping each other apart. So, just imagining that, or seeing a movie on that scale, it took me a long time to make that show, because, you know. - Oh yeah, that's beautiful. And also has a gay Mardi Gras vibe as well, I'll say that. But that's outside, and that's just a joke. I think it's very beautiful of these, that you get to even envision something like this. That's crazy, dude. - Oh, man. - It's crazy to even get to see moments like that. Like, even just like on a movie set or something like that, it must be so bizarre to see moments like that. - Have you seen this? You should see like just the trailers or something, you know, when you have some spare time. It's pretty wild. The fight scenes in this are pretty wild. - Yeah, that's amazing. - Yeah, anyway, so that was the first thing I ever created. So I was a co-creator, and produced it, co-wrote it, and directed like the finale, and started it. So that was like my big, that's my, that's my little love letter. - That's your baby? - Yeah, it's my baby, they're my people, so. - Oh, that's beautiful, dude. And was it something, was that special to your dad, or special to like some of your friends and family from home? - I think everyone, because you have to, all the people I was, when I was 19, I hired on Baywatch to like make up artists, to craft services, to your drivers. They knew me when I was 19, and I'm coming back at 40, you know? I was like 45 at the time, 44. And coming back and making something like, doing Baywatch was just kind of shit. And then coming back and doing something that's about our people. - Yeah. - It was a real big honor, man, for sure. It's like, I mean, that's my ultimate goal. I'm kind of done now. - Yeah. - I'm just gonna do fun, fun shit, and I wanna do comedy. Like we're gonna do a "Minecraft" with Jack Black again. - Oh, nice. - So excited to do that. Thanks, buddy. Sorry about that. - You're good, man. When you were doing that show, did you go to parts of the island and learn stuff about Hawaii that you didn't know before? - Yes, yes, but also like gotta go and just scout and go to places I've never been. Meet uncles and aunties and people who are just, know so much about our culture. Like we had to, yes, had to learn. You know, we had to do it all. We did it in Alela, Hawaii, so. - You did it in where? - Alela, Hawaii. So we did it in our native language. Yeah, native tongue. So all the other characters in here, I'd say half of the cast, it's all Polynesia. So you got to understand like there's, there's, there's Maori, New Zealand, there's Samoan, there's, there's Tongan. There's, there might've been some Tahitian, but like all of us in Kanaka, Maori, which is us, all these different people who had different, their own languages, they had to learn this ancient language. So like everyone in there doing that is like, it's hard. It was the hardest for me, but I thought it would have been a lot easier, but it was, it was very challenging for me. - Yeah, the Tongans are tough, huh? - Samoans and Tongans aren't, yeah. They're all tough. - Who's the toughest one though? - Um, I mean, I, I wouldn't fuck with a Tongan. - Bring up a Tongan. - I wouldn't fuck with a Samoan. It's like, I'm good. - Pull up a pair of Tongans. I heard you should never have just one. - I mean, look at that guy over there. The, I mean, yeah, there you go. Click on that one. That guy on the right. - Oh my God. That guy is doing something. Something different, huh? - You know what? We're all Aloha. So it's, it's nice. We don't have to fuck. I don't have to get in a fight with a Tongan. - Yeah, no, I'm never gonna, but that's wild. - Just Polynesians in general, man. They're just like, oh, it's such a different breed. - Dude, you know who I like? Filipinos. They're kind of like the comfortable Polynesians, you know? - There you go, yeah. - And they're the smiling people, you know? - They are. - And they're the last people that most people see before they die, because a lot of them work in hospice care, which is crazy. When you think about that, imagine, you're laying there, and you open up a little, and it's just some Filipinos, dude. And they're just singing something nice to you. - I mean, it sounds nice. - That's a portable Hawaii, dude. - I just hope my kids are there, and they're looking after me, but I'm gonna put that shit on 'em. You put me in a home, I'm gonna haunt your ass. I'm gonna fucking haunt your ass. You put me in a home. - Dude, I'd be-- - I'm gonna have my fans break me out. - You think you'd be a good ghost, though, dude? - You know what I'm saying? That's another script right there. Me and you old, we'll just do all the old makeup. - Yeah. - Yeah? Just us in our dying ages in a nursing home. - Yeah. - Our fans break us out. - And they break us out, and then what? - I don't know. - Yeah. - We go to a Comic-Con for the old-time days. - Yeah. - And you interview 'em all. - Yeah. - We do like the hangover. We just relive all the good times. - Yeah, it sounds just like the hangover. At least we'll go see it, man. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's just time - We all know that PrizePix is America's number one sports picks app and the best place to win cash while watching sports. The app is really easy to use. That's what I love. Just pick more or less on two plus players and lock your picks in. That's it. That's my favorite thing. It's just simple. You pick more or less, and it's specific. 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And so we figure if we can become waiters, then everything will be great. That's why you're so good at being a busboy. You're talking about like what we were talking about, like professional busboys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I channeled, this wasn't, yeah. People are like, this is just whimsical. What are you guys doing? No, this is in me, bitch. You feel me? So yeah, I definitely channeled that. And David was a busboy too, in Arizona as well, when he was growing up. They wouldn't make me a waiter. That was my last job. Yeah. I was a busboy at two places. I could see that. I think I- They wouldn't let me, they were trying to hold me down. Yeah. Oh yeah. Dude, there's a- There's a glass ceiling. Yeah. I never made a waiter. Yeah. It's everywhere. Fuck waiters. Busboys are dope, dude. Dude. Busboys are dope, man. Busboys are dope. They're always the coolest. They're going to have the drug. They're going to know where the shit's at. They're going to have the bread. Like busboys are dope. Yeah. Who are you going to get extra butter? They're in with the dishwasher and like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Who's got extra butter? The busboys do. Yeah, for sure. I love salt and pepper. Guess who's got that? Yeah. Let's go see your waiter do that. No, they're all fucking making more money than you. Yeah. They're all counting. They're usually counting their money somewhere. Not sharing their tips is what they're not doing. Type shit, homie. That's what they're doing, dude. And who's got the extra salt? You know what? I'm going to tip my waitress less and I'm going to slip my busboy more. I haven't been doing that. Honestly, where's the fucking busboy at? I'm going to throw him. I'm going to throw the homies or homettes some fucking loot. Started at the bottom. It's all happened because of Reagan, because of trickle down economics. Who started trickle down economics? Bring that up. It was Reagan, wasn't it? Give it to the waiters. They'll give it to the busboys. That's not helping. I was just at the nurses strike. The largest nurses strike in New York City history is going on right now. Right now? Yeah. And I just came from it a little while ago. And it was awesome. I like strikes because it's like being in a parade, kind of because I'm from New Orleans. So it's like, you're definitely partying that a band out there. Yeah, but it's the largest nurses strike that's ever happened in New York City. It's going on right now. Oh my goodness. See if you can play that real for me. There you are. Play it right there. They're from New Orleans. The band was pretty good. They played, um, actually they did, uh, Abbey Road. They did a whole album. Really? Which I thought was impressive, dude. Even that one where it's like bang, bang, Maxwell Silverhammer came down upon his head. Yeah. They even played that one and they only had three instruments. Um, but yeah, I loved it. I really enjoyed that. My sister's a nurse. I was like, oh, this is going on, dude. I'm out there. Um, now did I think I would meet some hot nurses? Yeah. But a lot of them are men these days. Um, which doesn't mean they can't be hot, but you know, I had a different bedside manner in mine, you know? So anyway, moving on Jason, you pervert. Um, so yeah. Do you get to a point in your career? Cause it is interesting to, to, to, to hear you say where you feel like, um, you have like some personal achievement or some personal success or something where you kind of feel like, okay, I'm okay. You know, does that make any sense to you? Kind of? Cause we're all trying to like, everyone's trying to feel like, you know, we all want to feel some sort of, a lot of people want to feel some sort of success, right? I mean, I noticed in my own life, what, what makes me feel like, okay, I'm, I'm, I'm okay for me, you know? Oh, I mean, it's a, it's a very calm, it's a complex, I mean, there's many things I'm going through and maybe that's just my age or like, you know, I've been, like you were saying, trying to accomplish, get to a certain place. Uh, just because you, just because, uh, even in those, in those worst times and like maybe not doing the things I really truly want to be doing, but I'm doing it to put food on the table. And then I get to the place where I'm actually like, wow, I'm producing, writing, doing all these things. And this is my dream come true. Why am I, why was I happier when I was in the fucking hole? Why was I happier back then? Is it just cause it's nostalgic? Is it, I mean, why was it because I'm hunting? I'm, I'm hungry. I mean, I got to the, this place where I considered like, well, I don't have any more per se dreams as an actor. Like I never thought I'd get this far in the first place. The biggest dream to me is like make a TV show or movie for my people, make a real true, authentic, quiet story. Like I did that. And the comic book I always read when I was a kid and I, well, I'm fucking playing them. And then you're like the video game that I fucking loved. I'm fucking playing him too. And it's like, all these things are great. And then sometimes you're, it's, but you're not, why do you not feel, does that happen? You think even like in career, like you got such a great career. Does it happen even in careers like yours? Like, do you think that's just a human thing? I guess it's just a human thing. Yeah. Yeah. But I just like, I just try to, I just try to have gratitude and all of it, man, because you know, I have so many friends that are, maybe could be ill, sick, dying and just, you know, I just, I just try to, I just try to have gratitude and all of it, just, so, I mean, I'm kind of the kind of person, like pretty high energy and I'm really, really generally happy. Like I'm like Christmas morning every morning. I'm pretty fucking happy. I don't need coffee. I'm jazzed. And so I love, I love morning. I love being up and I don't necessarily sleep that much. So I'll probably die earlier, but my days are filled. Yeah. They're going to be filled with fricking Filipinos as well, dude. That's for sure. If this is the rate you're going to have. But I just, I can't sit still. And I think if I don't have those things, I was pretty self-destructive if I wasn't creating and constantly doing stuff. So I think that's what gives me, like, I don't necessarily think there's a measure by, Oh, because I'm in this movie or this and this and that I'm actually like, there's these little smaller things that I love doing and staying busy. Yeah. But it's like the things that I really, truly love. Like I'm an environmentalist at heart. So there's, you know, I work as much as I can with different, just it's all the things that the little small things that probably no one gives a shit about that I give about. And it's like trying to do those things. I really love. And it's not about being necessarily seen as trying to help in certain things that I love and care about. Yeah. Do you think like a lot of that stuff comes back to you more? Like once you've kind of gotten a certain level or once you kind of, cause life just kind of gets busy, like in your thirties and forties, life gets busy. Right. And especially if you have a busy career like yours or a career, we have to travel a lot and it's, and it varies from place to place, location to location. I find that it like, um, it just gets, it gets hard to focus on some of the smaller things that are more important to me sometimes. Um, so do you, is it easier, do you feel like it's easier now in your career to be able to have more time for those types of things? I don't have any time for those, those, those things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I have a hard time saying no. So I say yes to everything. And I'm like, I, I, I have, I work a lot. And so if someone comes in and I'm fully loaded, I'm like, yeah, I can't not, not say yes. And so I don't know. I, here's the thing. I'm doing everything I love to do. Right. So I don't ever think of it as work. I'm just doing things I love to do. And so that's maybe the biggest honour of it all. And I think, uh, I mean, that's why i want my kids now they look at me they like oh my dad does what he loves to do which maybe i didn't when earlier in my in my life it was just like make sure i can put it was very worrisome earlier because like i said i wasn't on the best shows yeah yeah people were like oh why don't you go do that movie or that i'm like i didn't have an agent i couldn't get called like i couldn't get those things and so now i'm in a good place but i'm like oh i'm making up for lost time i'm like there's so many things i want to do in this life and so i'm it's a bit crammed in but i'm i'm in i've i'm i'm kind of doing everything i love yeah i wouldn't say i'm taking care of myself the best but i'm like that's something's got to give i'm like fuck that's why i'm this big burn this bitch down you know well if it's not if there's our muscles here we go yeah here we go dude fire up the feely truck huh back them up dude let them in the room um well what about you i mean like you're just blown up and like in your time i mean how does it feel to you do you i think this year i started just recently started thinking having a little bit more like okay i think everything will be okay like i'll be able to eat and have a roof over my head for the rest of my life so i have a little bit more semblance of like okay what does um things look like for like those around me what are some other things that i can put my time into like i've been touring mostly for probably about 17 years for probably half the weeks you know and so um this year i don't have any tour dates and so it's nice to like be like oh what does this look like like i had like two months with no three months with no tour dates and i was like this is crazy what is this so but there's still like a lot of podcasting and there's still a ton of work to do with this but it's not like i have to travel as much so sometimes for the first time it feels like my spirit even can be in like one place where it can like gather its thoughts you know um i feel like i've just been playing hide and go seek with myself for a long time just even geographically uh so having some more um just uh having some more like solace and being in one spot is really kind of helped me just to start to get a look around me do you go stir crazy because we're such gypsy we have to you know our careers are a little bit but sometimes that's a trap for me i know but you're like arnie i'm like oh my god i would love to get some rest then you get like rest for a solid week and you're like i gotta get the fuck out of here yeah i gotta get the fuck my ass hurts my back hurts and you're in the rest area along the interstate you're like this is insane like do you get that where you're just like oh man i got i gotta get out oh for sure but i think sometimes i gotta be careful because that's a trap man that's just the devil trying to get me back do you work with that in sobriety like is that it's like a thing do you have to do a yeah i go to a i go to a meetings and i go to that stuff it's been like you know i've been in and out of sobriety for 10 years probably mostly in and so that's been good so um yeah i like it just otherwise yeah i just can't hang like i'll do too much of the of the cocaine to be honest but you know i'll do too much of it and so i just don't want to be just don't i don't want to be around it you know i'll even walk and just look straight at the ground and see if anybody's dropped it sometimes outside i'll fucking run right into something what was that not an eight ball i'll tell you that i just peeped this whole block uh but yeah man dude i'll tell you this crazy story one time my friend and i and i didn't even know anything about drugs my friend and i are going to my apartment he was staying in town uh he was staying in town he's getting out of the taxi he dropped a little thing of cocaine into the taxi when i'm getting out i just see it on the thing i pick it up and put it in my pocket so he didn't tell me that he had ever done cocaine and he'd been doing it but he didn't tell me right and i just thought he was kind of itchy or whatever you know because it was spring and so we go in my apartment he's like hey man will you help me look it and he like wouldn't tell me what it was and i'm like that doesn't make any sense but yeah i'll help you you know so me and him are walking around looking for something that i don't know what it is okay and then i kept sneaking off and doing the cocaine right so dude now at one point he gave up and went to sleep i'm walking around my apartment looking everywhere for something and it was it was the drugs i was doing absolute insanity dude absolute insanity bro so yeah i mean you just people can get lost out there um but yeah dude do you ever read that miles davis you ever read miles davis's uh biography uh-uh there's this great part where he was up in harlem and you know at the time he's at the peak of his career he had this lamborghini let's just say it's like bright yellow it snows out it's snowing outside and he comes up to this spot and he's in harlem gets out goes in and he's coming back out and he gets back in the car and he's got some drugs comes back out gets in the car looks down and he's like fuck he like drugs are all the coke is all over the floor and he's fucking freaking out and he thinks he can get busted by the cops so he just gets out goes back in hides in his fucking closet waits it out for a couple hours sweating it out and he's on the drugs yeah comes back out hours later car's still there because they know it's miles davis open up the door and all the drugs are gone and he like clicks and he's like it was fucking snow on his shoes oh when he got in and like totally lost his mind like he thought he spilled all the fuck i was like that's a good time yeah that was a pro story that's a good time yeah and he didn't drive which is the best part that's the best part good job miles october 21st 1972 miles davis never mind wrecked his coked filled miura and broke both of his legs so he took it for one lap jim glickenhaus was the first person on scene miles in the hospital for a long time and didn't play for almost a year dang that'll make you quit doing drugs right there that'll make you quit smoking dude that's his that's his drowning near the reef right there dang if my dude but if my legs were broken i could still do cocaine i think and i hate to say that and don't say that to your kids but um what's uh so now you have children i've had them yeah did you collect some along the way or did i didn't mean that but did you like did you have a family that you had planned or was it just kind of like did you sort of have children no uh yeah no i was i was married and had kids yeah oh nice man was it cool being a father like was that like a scary thing for you like um it's actually funny he's he just got into oh yeah beautiful kids he just got into acting he's i mean they've been acting and doing wolf is his name yeah oh that's a cool name nicole wolf but he's uh he's gonna be in dune with me dune he's yeah he's leto jr dang so he auditioned on his own and got it and he killed was he geeked i mean he those guys grew up watching me you know he was sitting on affleck's lap and she's sitting with gal and you know we're doing justice league they were like six and eight wow i mean justice league they grew up on set with me so they just so it's so much so like just yeah i mean he was in a batman outfit is for at least five years like the kid is loves all that and loved dune and so yeah my babies are low as a singer so she wants to continue in music and wolf wants to do acting so which i was very she's such a gnarly business yeah i'm like go be a doctor use your brain yeah and go pay these nurses doc um actually it's the hospitals that aren't paying them but um yeah dude that's got to be interesting if your kid wants to go down that road but then you'll have a lot of experience too and you'll be there to help him be supportive in that way yeah yeah and he's doing it he's young so we can try it out yeah yeah absolutely yeah guide him you got kids no i don't have any kids yet i want to get some kids i want to uh sorry i would like to have children i'm not trying to get some kids um no i want all kids to be free if they're not if i don't know them oh man i don't want to know that's my new that's my rule if i don't know kids i don't want to know them you know people like hey i want you to shoot my kids i'm like fuck no i don't want to meet your kids dude people are perverts man you know these politicians um anyway what else are we talking about you got a special lady you're with right now no i don't i get that that's another bird right now too what's that you're free bird free bird yeah but i would like to have i would like to have a spouse i would like to have a woman spouse too i would like to yeah i i would like to have that man so it'll happen it's just like you know i just gotta i think for one two i've just been going all the time it was like i'd be like i'd be like dating somebody i'd be out of town for a while and you come back and you're like oh shit i forgot about this not in a bad way it's just like my brain was somewhere else it's hard for me to focus on stuff sometimes so um i think i just feel like more of that semblance of like okay now this maybe could be more manageable but i got to change some of my own ways and stuff like that a little bit and uh and be more purposeful i think about just like just different prayer and different things like that overall you know so you come from a big family you got brothers sisters yeah i got three siblings and uh one of them is married you're you're a baby i'm the middle one of the middle kids two boys and two girls so we got a good little group um but yeah nobody in my family can swim that good though we're not no yeah land people yeah if you need us we'll be on the land you know that's our motto dude that's our family motto i'm gonna get it tattooed on my brother when you're in orleans look what kind of sports are you into basketball dude is it true that the all that they have the team called the tall black and yeah is that true the basketball team in new zealand is called the tall black that's freaking amazing dude we got yeah in new orleans we have well we have some of the players are kind of thick over there you know so we got the round browns over there that's our team um no offense zion williamson but his weight does fluctuate um and he's cost our city a lot of money but what is this yeah this is oh that's a new zealand all blacks i don't know this is a bunch of ben simmons's they got maybe one and a half brothers on this team dude and this but hey that's awesome though good for them you're a big basketball fan i like college football it's probably my favorite college football who's your team um i'm a tennessee and a lsu guy yeah so those are my squads what about you i don't do college football that much you didn't get into it with your size i'm sure they were like you didn't get into it with your size i'm sure they were like get into it with your size i'm sure they were like get into it with your size i'm sure they were like get into it with your size i was hockey really yeah you were goalie soccer no center nah but i love i love uh soccer too man i was but you know play soccer but then i was a skateboarder you know i mean like they all want you to get into rest yeah that's weird that's weird i haven't had but if you're a surfer that makes sense yeah no i just grew up skating i wasn't always this big i mean like i was you know but that's what i was doing when i was little and took that into high school but i yeah so i traveled the world rock climbing and that was kind of my thing and do you ever go rock climbing with um charma jared leto no no i mean i've seen him out when we've been climbing yeah he loves it he does he climbs a lot with honnold honnold oh alex honnold yeah oh cool yeah he climbs a lot with him they do like they'll cap and all kind of stuff together he took me to a party here one time i just remembered in new york and everybody was kind of dressed like they look like different birds and stuff it was pretty crazy yeah and there was no air conditioning in the place it was like fancy it was it was bizarre but it was what you'd expect out of him um yeah that's people out on the rock right there yeah rock climbing is pretty amazing isn't it i love it what makes you love it so much well it's something i did when i was little at the first moment like my mom took me climbing in south dakota and i just the moment when i touched the rock and just moved on it just felt like like i'm probably better at climbing than i am at walking like it just my body just feels it's just something that you connect with that you really enjoy yeah but i love um just the fear and the problem solving and like the fear of it all because like we'll do like deep water soloing now and my orca and you like climb up and then you fall down in the water but it's just like the challenge of like i love i love climbing stuff when i was a kid it's like how do you not like i love climbing trees i love just climbing so i don't know i'm a fucking gorilla i don't know what to say yeah being in the dirt and i just enjoy taking my kids my kids do it and be like fishing or hunting like for other people but like being in nature and oh yeah and uh going to do adventures and and you know setting out to do something and accomplishing it and also the other thing too is i think i'm very very much and i'm not diagnosed adhd but i'm just i'm my there's a lot of things going on and i feel like when i ride motorcycles and i go rock climbing it's just like you can't do anything else but be there so that's just like a little bit my therapy or meditation is like that's when everything just gets real clean and clear makes you focus in yeah yeah what you get you know everyone gets high on that or loves that you know i mean when you can really mind body spirit connects and you oh yeah and something that's what you you know oh yeah when you're zipping down on a freaking motorcycle you can't yeah it's hard to be like i gotta do that email or whatever which is like everyone you're in a car you're like you know doing your makeup you're eating food you're talking to someone you're paying attention to shit where you're riding motorcycle it's you're you're gonna die if you fucking if you're out if you're doing your makeup while you're riding your motorcycle you're fucked yeah yeah it's not easy unless they come out with those self-driving motorcycles which i read about that's gonna be i'm like what are we doing now that driving motorcycles yeah that's not what we need no a lot of organ donors are motorcyclists and i didn't mean to say that out loud to you but you knew it a lot of them are you an organ donor a 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yeah i respect him and i and and then when we met we're very different but like super you know um there's no ego there's no like we're very supportive of each other we understand the story like it's just a wonderful when you find an acting partner and you're like oh my god i'm that you just you're there for the story instead of like your career you're a lot of guys a lot of famous dudes can't bleed or can't get hurt i'm like fuck i die and everything like my kids beg me not to die anymore i'm like that's how that's how you fucking eat i'm like you're not gonna die again i'm like everything that's how you have your life so i'm not afraid to do all that kind of stuff and you know bleeding and i think dave likes to get down and dirty too so um but he's just a really great guy the reason why we want to do it again is because it's just a good working relationship yeah yeah his acting is great yeah i saw him in blade runner and i just thought he was he was phenomenal and it was so subtle he's very just like the opposite of me i couldn't be subtle if he tried like it's just i thought you did a great job in this movie man thanks bud yeah thank you i don't it's i don't know if i've been paying attention i guess it's like if you're not paying attention if you don't if you're not noticing the acting and then it's great right isn't it kind of use of the usual kind of isn't that usually kind of the thought yeah yeah if it's not tripping up yeah do you do you feel like it's gotten easier to act over time like do you start to just understand it better does it become a little bit more like a muscle what is that like i just think i'm getting uh you know chances to do it now like i've never even been in a rom-com you know like my first comedy was last year with with with jack black doing minecraft so like you know it's just now finally catching on that i can do other stuff yeah i'm not just getting my ass kicked and dying all the time yeah you're not just a bouncer who's freaking going to the salon or whatever yeah i think after like game of thrones like people didn't know what to do with me so it's like you didn't speak english so that was like what the fuck do you do with drogo or like who are you gonna put is that in that rom-com drogo is i mean he's handsome like let's let's get that motherfucker i don't i hope he speaks english like he's french and i mean like what are you gonna so this is hilarious that's great um have you ever get to spend any time with jack i haven't gotten to spend any time with him man so funny no he's just just like the greatest human man like you just would love just being with him he's so much fun oh that's great and it's just like he's that all the time you go you know after work we go eat together like i just like people who they don't they don't act one way and then you know when it works over there's someone different you know like i'm just i wear my heart on my sleeve this is exactly who i am what you're gonna get here we are yeah um do you ever get people that confuse you for people a lot because i'll let people come up to me sometimes uh and they think i'm tony cavallaro um do you get people like that sometimes i think or even like this like if you walked in downstairs somebody might think you're joaquin phoenix downstairs um because how he did that letterman remember pull up joaquin phoenix on letterman that time what see if we're close or not yeah oh that's pretty much it bro there's my twin brother right there dude if you were joaquin phoenix today this whole time bro put these on if you tell me you're joaquin phoenix bro it's gonna get crazy in here oh wow huh i'm fucking blind yeah oh yeah dude those are yeah oh yeah i'll wear this so i can see there's a prescription yeah no i wear glasses dude i wear glasses yeah mine are downstairs my eyes are going bad i just can't do contacts can't put them in man but i'm not putting a little thing like that in my eye like a little sight would you ever get the little surgery that uh i don't think i would i don't want somebody to go in my eye i don't want that well i'm laying there like some pedophile i don't think you look like that guy but you know who the uh the dancing outlaws that guy that does that uh the tennessee two-step guy yeah there he there you are that guy what's his name jessica white bro dude you could totally play jessica white you could you dude not me oh i thought you're saying you look like him no man pull up the one where he's got no beard the one in the middle dude that's you for days but you talk about god i said nice things about this guy no you don't get jessica white this guy is a fucking listening to methadone all day which is a band um but it's only yeah i'm joking okay all right um my bad no that's okay is there any recent uh is there a recent interview with jessica why did he pass away he passed away damn you should listen to me he talks it's probably because you guys maybe because you sound familiar that's him no i don't look like he looks like hunters thompson right there yeah that is not no it's not no yeah wow but he's dead now that's the kid rock you ever interview kid rock yeah he lives in nashville that'd be easy then i see him there all the time he has his neighbors oh he does he's got a big club yeah he has a club and he has a he has a crazy house there no shit it's insane it's insane it is a and he collects a lot of cool stuff bob is his real name but he's a he's a super interesting guy and he's really nice too that's his house right there i think holy shit it's crazy bro oh and it's got a lot of kid rock stuff in it nobody's a bigger fan of kid rock than kid rock dude i feel like he has he built has he put he's doing new albums oh yeah he still does stuff he has a rock the country uh okay pull that up i think it's called rock the country that just came out a tour new tour that just came out that ella langley's gonna be on jason aldean um williams hank williams there you go kid rock jason aldean blake shelton jelly roll creed dude i could see you play scott stapp in like a biopic or biopic whatever they call it that's you getting me back at that jessica white yeah i deserved it i apologize um dude you know i used to love sound garden dude of course yeah man what a legend and i feel is that them but shit maybe i don't know who they are these are the eyes of disarray no that's not would you even care oh it's so simple pilots dude so no pots was good bro they were what's the first concert you ever went to um what the i was at the iowa state fair what the fuck is his name he does bourbon one scotch and beer uh jesus christ i'm blanking on his name trace adkins maybe no no uh god damn it it's okay bad the bone but by uh yeah george so good yeah one bourbon scotch one beer iowa state fair baby dude how nice is that thing iowa state fair yeah it's amazing i've been in years funnel cake yeah but i'm not driving across town for some for a funnel cake what like but i guess that one would be the best because you'd have all the animals you'd have all the crafts yeah and the big rides i had a good time there i was growing up yeah i guess people did i couldn't i couldn't walk around there now i'd be fucking screwed there's no way yeah you'd have to hide you could dress up like something those days are over man but it's your size do you have to disguise yourself as something unique if you're out in the public like if you're in there's no way i'm gonna hide you could hide i can't hide i mean i'm in the flannel and the hat it's about as hiding as it gets if you got a special outfit i mean you mean it's like go out as like boba fett or like like fucking the helmet on like iron man i mean i could hide if i had a helmet on yeah yeah if you were like a football helmet or something it was i i uh i was in um jordan one time we were shooting dune and i wanted to go see petra and i got all wrapped up and it was great because i got a to walk through there there's tons of tourists and so i did the whole you know full wrap and everything's on but it was hot and the little bit of my triangles are sticking out and we're walking through and this this girl's like kind of season she goes and i'm like this fucking thing gets me in trouble more than anything man because it is that a is that like oh yeah this is basically tapped on and i have one that goes on my head it goes right through there and how do people earn do you earn them or how do you get this is like a family crest think of it like that it's like the guardian this is the shark and this animal the shark so basically when i'm in the water and we're snorkeling the shark knows to go to you because you're white and i'm hawaiian so it's like this is what just lets them know yeah that's fair yeah i gotta get something you just roll with me i'll be like i'll point it somewhere i'll be on your back point out the directions you ever see any sharks you ever see anything oh i went to one of my sharks one time in south africa we're in a cage have ever seen any great whites yeah did you see a big great white oh yeah one came and got so there were these two round cages off the boat and since the edge of the boat's like this and you have two circles there's a space in between the cages right up against the boat like because it's two circles yeah and one of the sharks got stuck right in there and he was absolutely going ape shit and then another one came up and put his snout like in the cage and i got to touch the top of it pat him on the head a little bit pretty cool nope that old doberman touch i put on him you know just great did you like south africa oh dude is the most beautiful place that i've been yeah you know is there a place you've been that really makes you feel like this is really something special i just got back from guatemala i went there with my lady oh no she's from guatemala that was my first time so we went to like we got to go see the pyramids which is like the largest pyramids in the world bring them up my father's from nicaragua really yeah which is neighbors to guatemala i think is it in central america yeah oh that thing's nice i'm surprised you don't live in one of those because people think you do dude yeah the one that's there they write that one pretty pretty spectacular and the one to the left food culture just so rich wow how long was y'all's trip for antigua i went to antigua antigua was just like i've never seen streets like that um we were there for like two weeks sorry two weeks seeing family getting the parents and the family yeah see if they like me you know the fucking gringos coming in oh yeah yeah but you weren't the gringo though i wasn't i was to them huh yeah wow dude it's good i got white blood in me it's good yeah that's a good point german blood yeah yeah yeah don't bring that in irish don't bring that honky blood around here whitey that's the kind of shit that i hear all the time but they love me so i'm in yeah i got i got two thumbs up did you get a like do you get a written review or how did like on the plane ride home she read in their eyes yeah and then and i could and i could i could i could feel the temperature the the aunties were cool with it and then the nieces were cool with it and then the aunties were cool with it and then the nieces were cool with it and then the nieces were cool with it and nephews love me, the dad's amazing. I mean, I love her dad. We went to go see him play. He's a musician? He's probably one of the biggest Latin, maybe, no, he's definitely one of the biggest Latin musicians of all time. Really? Yeah, Ricardo Arjona. Let's bring up a picture of this man. He's actually, he's got. He could be your father-in-law. Yeah, he's doing. Or your stepdad. Time Square, two nights in a row. Ricardo Arjona. Ricardo Arjona, yeah. Secao is the new, his new tour. Secao? Yeah, he's skinny. Ooh, Ricardo Arjona. Yeah. God, I want to be something like that. He kind of looks like my older brother, right? You and him? A little bit, right? Oh, yeah. You can see it. That's what's up. If I were Latin. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm Hawaiian. And he's probably the biggest Guatemalan in history. He's very tall? He's like 6'5". No way, you can't even tell from this photo. I know. They should say that on the poster. First of all, they should have a poster that says, hey, come see a 6'5 Guatemalan. And he's, bro, Dude, I'd pay 40 bucks to go over and see that. He's got two nights in a row at New York Times Square. I think he'll be playing Nashville too, bro. Really? Yeah. Dude, if he is, I'll make sure to go and watch it. Yeah, but he'd be great on the show too. I'll take a Latin, I'll take a Spanish girl out there on a date. You're definitely going to meet some Spanish nurses. That's a place to go. Yeah. How do you say nurse in Spanish? Bring that up for me, fellas. Enfermera. Ooh, C. Enfermera. Enfermera. Enfermera. That's what I'm going to say. That's where it's at for you. Yeah. They take care of you, love you. That's what I'm saying, dude. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah, there were ages when I was like, yeah, I'm going to get, oh, I want to find a, like a model or something. And now it's like, and I'm getting older. I'll take a nurse. You've had all the models. You know what I'm saying? I don't know about that, but I just have like, yeah, I'll just, you got to think ahead, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if models are going to take care of you, but a nurse will take care of you. Dude, no, a model's not going to take care of you, dude. And she's not going to feed you anything because she doesn't eat anything. What are you going to do? Just both sit there and suck on an empty bottle together? And she's lazy anyway, probably. Anyway, sorry. What about this guitar, dude? I saw you brought this in. Well, yeah, because we were both tired. I was going to take a little nap because I didn't want to suck on your show. I appreciate that, man. Yes. I'm probably like a solid six right now. I'm normally a 10. But we had the premiere before I came to Theo Vaughn, which was a big accident. So anyways, I was downstairs at Chelsea Guitars. I found this. It's a 59. And it kind of went like, got a little bit of that watermelon color to it. Yeah, it's beautiful. Because it's usually cherry, right? Yeah. And then it fades because of that paint they used back then. But it didn't have the original pot, so it was kind of cheap. And then, you know, I'll put some new pickups in it, and it'll be back to new. Are you a collector of guitars? I am. I'm a big fan. I got a band. We're going to go play Dubai here on the 28th. And look, too. Really? I forgot to show you. Yeah. I was in Dubai. Sorry about that, brother. No, I was in Qatar, actually. Signed by Chuck Berry. Yeah, they have all the guitar signs on there. Who is it? Chuck Berry. The guy that was just up on the. That's signed by Chuck Berry, dude? Yeah. Oh, that's him. See, there's a guitar. Johnny B. Goode. There you go. He used to carry his guitar in a roadside. He's between the tree by the railroad track. I loved him, dude. We used to listen to his tape all the time. I had his cassette tape when I was young. Actually, it might be a good idea. My son loves Chuck Berry. I might do him right. When he turns 18, maybe I'll give him this guitar. Just let him play it. You keep it. You know, he just booked a role in a movie next to you. Like, he's doing fine. Okay? He can get his own. My love language is presence. I'm horrible at it. He can get his own stuff now. Are you? I am, yeah. Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, I heard that you were working with a water company. Is that true? Yeah, I started this company called Mononalu. Mononalu? Mononalu. Started it eight years ago. I was on a flight, and you know, you're flying over on the plane, and you see a Coca-Cola in an aluminum can. You got beer in an aluminum can. You got sparkling water in an aluminum can, and they give you those little shitty Dasani water bottles with a cap, you know, the label. And then there's like three different types of plastic on it that we can't recycle. It just goes into our land. It goes. It goes into our landfills, and I'm a father. I don't want to see plastic. We don't need single-use plastic. Generally, I carry my own water bottle. When I go to the airport, you fill it up. Eight years ago, they didn't even have aluminum for water. So I went to Ball, the people who make those cans, and I went to the aluminum company. I said, I'm going to make a water bottle with you, a water without aluminum cans. And they're like, we're not a, you know, this is a water company. I said, well, you are now. I'm awful, man. Let's do this. So we set out to do it. And then we, we ended up making the first like screw can and went back on. And so we made modern, although, and then it changed. Well, now it's got our, we put our movie on there. Oh, great. Put the labels on there, but see how it's got modern all apparent on the top. And so once we kind of stopped single use plastic and now, because at the time I went to design and I went to, I went to the blue and the red guy, Coke and Pepsi. And I was like, oh, that's cool. Like, would you do this? Would you make the aluminum? They're like, it doesn't make sense to us. Cause it's easier to do plastic, but anything that's in plastic is just leaching in there. It's just poison, man. You don't, you don't want to be drinking out of plastic bottles. Yeah. That's what I think about a lot of times, especially now with people talking about all the bad stuff that's in our food and our water, it's become such like a, you know, such a talking point right now. It's in a lot of water that isn't because most of the water is in plastic. And even if you look up like what's the best water that doesn't have plastics in it, you know? It, they won't even really tell you it's all these like kind of gimmick videos that lead you to buy certain things, usually to buy water purifiers and stuff. Yeah. But I mean, the idea is just to go. So now we kind of changed now that there are making those, we made a circular system, so we're now one on all a powered by boomerang and it's actually, it's pretty cool, man. Like the idea is to be in starting with Hawaii mainly is to be like in hospitality. So you're in hotels, hospitals, schools, where you imagine just going to your room. And you got a crate, like a milk crate, and there's all your water in there and you drink it and you put it back. And then down in the basement, there's a machine, it's a circular system. It sterilizes it, fills it with your natural local water source and put some minerals back into it and cleans it and mix it. So it's fresh water. It's not packaged up. It's there's no emissions. It's not sitting in some crate and some warehouse in stagnant, dead water. It's fresh water always. And if there was a COVID or anything like that, each hotel would still operate, like the water still operates. Right. So you can still have fresh water and it's just bottled up. Think of it as like you're going to a restaurant, you eat with their plates and their fork and you're done. You leave, you come back, you're going to use it. You're not going to take shit home. You just, it's just a container for it. And so it's constantly reusable and recyclable. So you're cutting out waste. Now, the idea was just to cut waste. So cause even when you're having the aluminum bottles, you still got to recycle those. And so it's just, the idea is just to either, if you're not carrying your own stuff, it's pretty cool that you can. You can go to a hotel and you know that it's, it's there's no, not only are you not doing waste, it's getting recycled. So it's a full circular. That's incredible, man. Just to kind of get rid of the single, I mean, just to call it shit done. Cause it's just absolutely ridiculous. Yeah. When you think about the idea of like taking shitty water, putting it in plastic bottles, shipping it to a place like Hawaii, which has the best water in the world, we drink it and then the shit ends up in our ocean or a landfill. So it's the dumbest thing in the world. I'm going to try to do that in Hawaii first. So, I mean, obviously we're self-contained. We didn't plant Island earth. We didn't need anyone. We can, we were self-contained at one time. So if we can just do that with all our tourism and people come from all over the world, getting married and they get to see what they're doing in each hotel. So we have four C all different hotels, four seasons and twin fin, all these different places where it'll have their, it'll have their label on it. So it's, it's, it's still all there. So their advertising is for them. It's just, we're trying to stop the waste. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. When I even think about just how many bottles I like, I probably drink seven bottles of water a day. So that's seven empty bottles. Like that's just me. That's ridiculous. Oh, bro. It's just, it's the most archaic thing that we're drinking out of plastic bottles. But I mean, so we, we're, we're doing it in a business side and eventually we'll try to get it where, you know, we'll have depots for it. But I mean, the idea is to get people doing, cause in every school kids can be doing this, I like the idea too, that you can have your thing at home that you could just sit over there with them, be able to refill it. I think, I think that's pretty novel. Yeah. Um, thanks buddy. It's yeah, it's Mononolo powered by boomerang. You can check it out. And that's. That's the goal is to, you know, just another thing to try to fix in a very broken world and we don't need that pollution in our, in our oceans. Aquaman, you heard it. You heard it, man. Have you ever been a lifeguard or not? Yeah. That's why my whole family are watermen. Yeah. They're all lifeguards. Yeah. I went to, I went to junior lifeguards my whole life when I was growing up. Dang. That's like, I wish I could be a lifeguard when I was young. It's pretty cool when you save someone's life. I've saved a person's life before in the ocean. Yeah. And it's, it's, it's, it's when you do junior lifeguard. It's really cool to, to really take your time, things slow down. I'm sure it's probably like a firefighter. Like I'd panic in a fire, but I think if I saw so many of them, I practiced, you know, most people go, oh shit. And then they, they, they freak out. Whereas the natural calm come kind of comes over you and you just like assess the whole situation so you can both get out alive, you understand the rip, you understand what the ocean's doing. And you had to save somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Is that in Hawaii? Yeah. Wow. But I mean, it's just the re I'm, like I said, I've been many times like drowned. I'm like, yeah, it can, you cut, you get caught in a rip. - Yes. - It's taken over. you out you're not going to beat the ocean and you can literally be i mean i've been at pipeline a leaf snapped and i'm literally eight feet from the shore but it's like a river going by and you're swimming trying to get in like it's eight feet and you're just getting burnt out yeah and you're like there are cameras everywhere there are people right there i could yell for help and i look like a idiot i'm gonna drown in eight feet of water yeah and if the current's so it's just that undertow is just pulling your feet out and it's going to exhaust you and it generally he's got to go with it it's going to take you out to sea and it'll dump you back in but that's the everyone drowns like that it's just you got to watch out for the rips they'll go jumping into the fucking ocean and then if you see a sign don't go in that's what i mean don't be stupid you're like the yogi bear of the ocean kind of remember him oh i do you put out those fires kids yeah dude put them out you know what i'm saying i know he was so adamant he was talking to me the other day i built a fire and i was like that's everything's green around here he was yeah in my head because you guys were psychos but i was like listen i could dump out oh smoky the bear dude sorry who did i say yogi bear yogi bears oh dude he's starting the fires then god he's probably on suboxone or whatever by now oh yeah he's not doing well i think he was a step dad too you can tell by his outfit oh yeah he's probably on suboxone or whatever by now oh yeah he's not doing well i think he was a step dad too you can tell by his outfit you can tell by that outfit he was definitely trying to meet a lady that already had kids probably too not like the bernstein bear where he was locked in yeah yeah he was just a dumb dad that guy was a family man he was he was yeah bernstein was a family i love me some bernstein god they were good especially like the fall issues always i always got snuggled down when i read those ones and the skip one remember there was that one scary book one of them there was a fire whatever and people were like no no fires in the bernstein bears and people flipped out and shit oh really yeah dude people just cannot handle real shit that's the kind of thing i'm talking about was there ever was there was there a time in a movie where you were trained for something it was like one of the toughest things you ever had to actually train for or does it never go that far with training yeah i mean training for training for aquaman was pretty was pretty challenging um um i'd have to say maybe the yeah i'd say probably aquaman's probably the hardest i've ever had to train i'm not very like i'm not like a gym rat i just like to do things rock climbing you know go surfing and things like that but actually get you do that for a role i don't necessarily like you're not in there getting pumped every day like a maniac or taking sarms no i just want to do the things i love to do yeah yeah but i'm yeah you know like some sups monkey that's over there g and c every day or something supplements guy yeah i don't even do like shakes and all that oh yeah yeah i don't even do that i like to eat food damn that's what i'd like to eat yeah hawaiian dude yeah you got to get fat when you get older yeah i'm definitely going that way hell yeah i can't wait to get fat i'm trying not to baby but as soon as i get married i'm getting fat and then i'm getting divorced too i can't wait to get divorced um what else so people should go see the wrecking crew it's a great film it's fun it's yeah it's good actually it's feel good you get to go to hawaii you know and make it there put on the wrecking crew yeah let me and dave take care of you yeah yeah yeah work out some trauma in your family open up a can of dole pineapple for your lady and put on the wrecking crew yeah it's almost the same thing some shaved coconut yeah you know i mean some mounds oh dude bust out a couple of those my dad used to give us mounds sometimes when we're good not a lot then uh not a lot not a lot of mounds um yeah dude thanks so much for taking time i know you had a long day man i know it's like kind of a pain in the ass and uh it's not man i don't do podcasts that much because i always get in trouble so you're my second and it was wonderful and dude i'm just it's awesome to meet you man yeah it's a pleasure man thanks for all the awesome entertainment and um yeah thanks for just sitting and sharing some of your experiences and story with me you know there's one thing too you know the thing that you have with uh oh my goodness david spade uh when we were at the 50s snl he was there yeah so i saw i saw him when we were there my daughter is like a massive massive fan of brooklyn 99 so andy sandberg's like her dude she loves the most so i saw him about last person i'm leaving i see him and i go dude my daughter loves you can i please get a picture with you and i send the video to my daughter and i said hey listen if there's anything i'd love to do something with you about three weeks later he pitches his story in hawaii it's amazing laughing my ass off we instantly saw it i'm going in two weeks to go shoot it in hawaii no way with david fucking year later no with with sandberg but yeah but i'm just saying it's the same thing where you've just like minded friends you're saying yeah just friends and buddies meet in the comedy like i've never met him before it's just through my daughter but you see something and you're like dude and you make a friend but like i'm saying you got anything in there and you want to you know you see me you see you like oh dude momo would be that oh my gosh i'm gonna think it's something good it'd be fun to be in it you know i'm gonna think it's something good you're paul bunion and i'm gonna be the blue ox bro you could be paul bunion i don't know babe yeah you'll be babe the blue ox then and we got to find somebody to be paul bunion i'm gonna be the brother that's on methadone but we'll figure it out we'll figure it out homie jason mo thanks so much man go see the record crew guys now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling like these leaves i must be cornerstone oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it in my bones but it's gonna tell you coca-cola for the big for the small the short and the tall peacemakers risk takers for the optimist pessimist for long-distance loathe for introverts and extroverts the thinkers and the doers for old friends and new coca-cola for everyone pick up some coca-cola at a store near you