6 week appointment: adjusting to life w/ 3 under 5

- Do we even kiss anymore? - No, we don't. - That's so sad, we need to bring that back. - Hey, it's six weeks, so. - I know, yeah. It's a six week appointment today. (laughing) - I got the egg big time when you took your temperature as an adult. I was like, you were a grown man. - Wait, when did I take-- - I've seen you have that little thermometer on your head before, and I'm like, that is for the children. They do escape their room every single night and every single morning. - They always have an excuse. - Sometimes they just come out just to say that they are having a hard time sweeping. (laughing) - Was your rather change of baby's blowout or a toddler's throwout? - You've cleaned up puke once or twice, right? - I was literally a barf bag for our baby on a whole flight. - That's true. - And so, to through my bra. (upbeat music) - Hey, real quick, before we get into today's episode, I wanted to let you know that the majority of people watching our show are actually not subscribed. So if you could please check that you're subscribed, it's the one free way that you can support us. And while you're at it, if you don't mind liking the episode, it'll tell the algorithm to push more of our content your way, which really helps us out. So thank you so much for being here. Thank you for subscribing. Thank you for liking the episode and let's get into it. Welcome back to unplanned, everybody. We are going strong over here. Abby is literally feeding our baby while we're recording this episode. - We're hungry. - How do you feel about the breast feeding at this point? 'Cause that's like what you're doing after a day. - Oh, I actually really like it this time. - You do? - Yes. - Oh good. - I feel so grateful for it because with two other toddlers in the house, and like, I mean, we got a lot going on on our calendars in our lives and even work wise. I think I wouldn't ever stop to connect with the baby in like snuggle, you know what I mean? I feel like this is just like a built-in, like very acceptable way to just snuggle all the time. It's always acceptable to snuggle your newborn. But I'm saying like this is like, I'm able to prioritize it because it's literally, I'm, we've only exclusively breastfed during the day. And so that's been so, so sweet. - I just feel so bad for him, like hearing him breathe, you can hear the congestion in his lungs. - I know. - And I wish there was something that we could do, like some medicine to give him, but that like literally does not exist, you know? - I know. I think he's the one who got actually-- - The entire family sick. - The entire family sick. - Which is like crazy. Like how did he get it first? - Yeah, also. - No one else is touching him except for me all day long. - Yeah, yeah. I think it's like me using the snott sucker, like sucking his boogers out. - I like literally inhale. I was like sucking with all my force to get all the his congestion. And I feel like I just took whatever that was and brought into my lungs. But I-- - How did you give it to me? Because we have not been-- - Yeah, you just got-- - Matt in or anything. - You just got it. - Yeah, I, I, when is last, I'm gonna kiss each other. Do we even kiss anymore? - No, we don't. - That's so sad. - That was one of my New Year's resolutions. - We need to get, wait, what? We need to bring that back. - We need to bring that back. - What the heck? - Hey, it's next week, so-- - I know, yeah, it's a six week appointment today. - I should have been just saying it like that. Speaking of the six week appointment, how did that go today? - Well, I mean, there was a point where I was like-- - Like, we've all been talking about this by the way, but I guess let's just fill everybody else up. - Yeah. - There was a time where I was pants down with a sheet on my waist and nursing. And he was crying. - You were pants down while you were nursing? - I didn't know what to do. He hasn't taken a binky and he was like losing his mind. - That is something about him. - Oh gosh, he's just like, he's just trying so hard that you're right now. He is our first kid and I have to not use a binky. Like our other two kids, we had to invent the binky fairy to find a way to get rid of the binkies for our four year old. And now, like-- - You better not listen to this episode in front of our children. - I know, yeah, that'd be so devastating if he knew the truth. - What? - No, but yeah, he kind of has to use you as a passie because there's no, he doesn't really care about binkies. - He makes a lot of sounds. He's a grunty baby. - Yeah. - But yeah, he doesn't take a binky and actually the pediatrician looked in his mouth, which I mean, I don't think this is a detail that he would ever mind of sharing in his adult life. He has a really high palate, like in his mouth. - Yeah, why would that be like a bad thing to share? - I don't know, I feel like we don't really talk about them. - Oh yeah. - That's something that's fine. The roof of his mouth goes up like a mountain, honestly. And so she's like, that's probably why he doesn't really like a binky is 'cause it's not touching the roof of his mouth. - But then you got like a very unique type of binky that we've been trying to use a little bit and he just still doesn't care. - Yeah, he still doesn't really care at all. - I've tried so many times. - Your mom was really trying to get him to use it and he not like it. - Yeah, my mom came to visit us you guys for a week, which is so helpful. - A whole week. - Abby's mom and dad, they're out of town. They've been in Europe, which like happy for them. That's like super duper fun. But my mom came in and spent some time with us and she's like, she's such a good grandma. Like I feel, I feel really blessed that. - Such a good grandma. - Yeah, but my mom played really hard with the boys and then she started getting sick while she was visiting because of how hard she was playing with them. Which I think kind of just happens like pretty much every time my mom visits she gets sick because toddlers just have a lot of germs and we try to make them wash their hands a couple of times a day, but you know, how good really are three and four year olds at washing their own hands. - Well their immune systems just aren't developed as much. - Yeah, back to the six week appointment though. Like fill me in. I don't, we kind of like, we kind of jumped the gun there. What all did you learn from the six week appointment? - I mean, I don't know, what do you think happens out of six week appointment, Matt Howard? - I think they do. - They can't ask me like, how did it go? God, I was good. I was like, what do you think we did? - I think it was a quick appointment. I think you probably got, you got good news. You can work out again, which I know you're really excited about. - Yeah, I mean, we were clear for everything that was, but that's like a really quick thing. I had some stitches so they did it like a check to make sure everything was good and everything is great. But then they do like a postpartum mental health survey. - Nice. - And then which I think is great. Oh, she kind of like debriefed on our birth too, which was like, I feel like that's really nice because I don't know. It's like a non medical person. You're like, had everything go, like it was a good, like, and she was very positive about everything. She was like, that was amazing, like, she's like, he came super fast. She's like, how long did that bruising last? I think she checked in on him. And she was even like very positive about another V back in the future, which I was really surprised by because we did have a complication that we have with our first shoulder dystocia, but she said it was like very minor and she was like, I know what to do. Like, she was like, I think everything was like, really good and she was very positive about it. - I know. 'Cause I thought for sure we'd have to have a scheduled C-section if we ever had a fourth. - I know. That's such good news for now. - I know. - To know that if, you know, we go down that route again, to not have to have a C-section is awesome. - Yeah, which I mean, if we did, if we decided to have a fourth and we wanted, like a C-section, I'm not afraid of. Like, I wouldn't be worried about it at all, but it is good to know that, like, that is a possibility down the line. - I love how you already have your workout clothes on. Like, the first thing I noticed about today, you, I saw you this morning and you had your leggings on, your sports pre-on, you were just like gearing up to get the all clear at the six week appointment, go back to the gym. I didn't know if you were gonna go back to the gym, like earlier in the morning today, but it sounds like you're doing-- - I haven't even watched a baby. - Yeah, I know. And so since your mom's at a town, we don't have anybody to keep an eye on our baby, you're taking, I guess, what are we doing? Who's actually, who's gonna watch the baby while you go to the gym? - My friend's gonna hold him while I'm in the class. - That's so sweet. - Like, right outside. - Oh, that's so sweet. - Yeah, so nice. - But you're working out with a bunch of your friends at the gym and one of your friends is gonna hold our baby during the workout. - Yes. - That's cool. For anybody that's like on the newer side here, fill everybody in on like why the gym is so important to you postpartum. - I mean, it's just a part of important to my life in general, like for, oh my gosh. Since freshman year of college, like literally since I was a little, like, it's just been a part of my life. I just feel like I'm not like the fittest person in the world, but just working out makes me feel so much better mentally and makes my body feel better. And so specifically postpartum when like my mental health has always been like a little bit shaky. I've never been diagnosed with anything, but like just those hormone shifts, like anyone goes, like most women know, like that's just a emotionally up and down state and working out really has like helped me have like clarity of mind. And so I'm really excited to get back in like, also it's just like a celebration of like, you just spent nine months with your body, like not being able to do the things that you necessarily want to do with it. And then you can finally do it again. Obviously we're gonna ease into things, but like being able to jump not with a huge belly or like something pushing on your pubic bone and like being able to like, I don't know, like lift and not be like super cautious about like, oh, is this gonna do something to my core? Obviously we're being really careful with the core, but it's just a different, it's just, it's honestly just a celebration of like what your body can do after it just did something crazy, it's like now we can get back and build muscle again. - I didn't understand what you meant by making your mental health better until I started working out more. And now I completely get it. Like I've started working out a lot more than I used to and the mental health benefits have been almost better than like the physical benefits. - 1,000%. - 'Cause like yeah, I'm getting stronger and I'm growing muscle, but to just like feel good about myself and feel like I accomplished something at the start of the day, that's the other thing too. My dad used to say when I was a kid, you gotta work out, at the start of the day, it's the only time to do it. And I was like, that's stupid. Like, you don't need to work out in the morning. But now that we have kids, and we have, you know, all these responsibilities, getting it done at the end of the day ensures that it actually happens. 'Cause I used to just put it off, and then around, you know, three or four o'clock, I'm like, oh shoot, I don't have the time. Like, I have too many other things on my to-do list. And so, like, kind of like you, I've started working out in the morning, and that's been, been huge. Well, I mean, I'm obviously working out in the evening today, but it's just like, once you get used to working out, like, you know that it's a part of your day, it's non-negotiable, then you can kind of be flexible with whenever you can get it in, it feels good. But yeah, I'm really excited to just do it again. Just to get on, I'm gonna need a good sports bra. I didn't order a new one for me, I was on. - You ordered a new sports bra? - Yeah. - What type of sport is, like, a certain brand. - It's so running. - It was just like, you just searched running sports bra. And I think I did high support. - High support? Is there like a certain brand that makes like running? - It was just an Amazon brand, we'll see. Yeah, 'cause I'm like, they're not gonna be this size for long, so I wanna just get a, like, less expensive one. - Has that been far-- - But heavy duty. - Like, you've been wanting to buy, like, a new wardrobe recently, have you been buying new clothes? Are you, like, not really doing that? - No, just been wearing stretchy clothes still. - 'Cause what did you do last pregnancy? - I got all new pants, not all new pants. I got new pants, and they were, like, kind of expensive. They were from three people. And then, 'cause I, like, was kind of, like, what do you call that, Doomsday? I was like, I'm never gonna fit my clothes again, and so I bought new pants that were, like, pretty expensive. And then, two months later, I didn't fit them. So, that's kind of-- - Where did those pants go? - I came to-- - Oh, they're gone. You don't even have them anymore. - No, I don't have them anymore. 'Cause then, I was like, I was thinking, oh, yeah, you could just use all the clothes that you bought last time postpartum, but they're gone. You didn't have fit in that many months. - Okay, got it. - I really go through things. - You didn't hold on to stuff for you now. I feel like you got that from your mom, 'cause your mom doesn't like clutter, and she just, like-- - Did you see me on Sunday? I was freaking out. - Yeah, you were throwing stuff away. You threw away half the condiments in our fridge. - I just needed those. - You were just, you're just, like, everything was going. - You're like, well, you could give that to somebody. I'm like, let it as somebody else's problem. You're like, this one, what, the salad dressing? - Absolutely not. - It's disgusting. That was a disgusting dressing, and I just got it, but I hate it so much. - And now it's gone. - Yeah, I mean, I don't wanna be wasteful, but sometimes it just hits me that I'm like, these condiments have gotten out of hand. - This is actually a genuine question to have. Do people individually rinse out every single, like, jar or container, like a peanut butter jar? Do you rinse that out before you put it in the recycling? 'Cause, like, in my head, when I was taught in fourth grade to reuse recycle, I was, I learned that you have to make sure there's no, like, food substances or oil or grease or whatever on it. 'Cause it's the same reason you can't throw away a pizza box. Do you, like, rinse out? - Peanut butter jars, I'm just throwing them away. - So sad. It's okay, no, I-- - There's only so many hours of the day. - It depends on how busy I am. If I'm, like, really busy, Peanut butter jar going into that. - Trust me, I care. I care environmentally. I'm the one who drove our recycling every single week. - You did. I forgot about that. - I forgot about that. - Yeah, we didn't have recycling at our apartment, so you would drive it together. - To the recycling center. - Yeah. - And we sorted it. - Yeah. And there was no, it's not like they'd pay you for that. You just kind of just do it. - No, I absolutely care. - Honestly, good on us. Gosh, we like this. - But peanut butter, that is, there's too many crevices I used to do it, and then I just had to free myself of that. - Wait, I'm proud of us. Can we just take a second that in college, we took time out of our Saturday to go drop off our recycling. And see, those, I felt like we're actually getting recycled because we sorted them ourselves, whereas the recycling trucks that come to our house, it's all together. - Okay, but this is what makes me so sad. - And I've heard that those just get thrown away. - I've been learning, yeah, that half the recycling that we recycle just get thrown away. Isn't that so sad? - Right, I just don't wanna believe that. - Do we know, can someone let us know? - My grandparents drove their recycling too. I remember that. - That's so sweet, but it's like, why are we all recycling if it's just going to the landfill anyway? - We got it. - You know? - No, I don't think it is. - That's the case, we gotta figure this out, America. 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You were really nice to me the first day of being sick. - Yeah. - Why was that? - Because I've always said in my head that you get one day to be sick. - I get one day to be, no, but see the first day is not the day, like I was fine the first day. It hit me really hard. Actually, it was the day after that hit me hard. And you-- - Well, maybe you just need to get your mouth shut until day two, and then that will be your one free day. - I should have, I should have, maybe could you give me 48 hours to have some grace when I'm sick? (laughing) That, the mic, that up. That was impressive. - I love how he just kicks to get out. - I know. (laughing) Just like, let's it go. - Gets in from you. - Nope, but there's been some-- - Oh my gosh, Addy. - He was farting. - Me or her son, our son, yes. - I wouldn't tell him about that. - In the middle of the night. - So, so loud on the diaper change table, I literally was, I could not believe it. - I just kept doing that. - This happened, no, it's your son. - You know where you like, move the legs back and forth and then you stretch up. - And then you, and then you move them all the way back to the tummy. - You need to record it one night. - I did, I did that multiple times. And it was just-- - It was in. - So much. - I never heard something like that. He might rival you, Matt Howard. - Oh yeah. - I think he wins. If we had a, you know, who's gassy or it would be your son. - It comes from your side of the family. - It's something. Everyone's probably, everyone just clicked off. They're like, this is, we're talking about far, far away. - Oh, it's amazing. What were we talking about? - We were talking about me being sick and how you-- - Oh, you get one day, but maybe we can extend it the 40 hours. - I have to say, you were really nice to me the first day. - Thank you. - Well, 'cause I've said in my head, you get one day. - You were so nice, you told Addy, you're like, cancel all Matt's meetings today. He's sick. - And then I was like, babe, I'm actually, I have to work. I can't just call off all my meetings. So I didn't call them. I worked, I worked from bed for the first like 45 minutes of the day, responding to emails, but, you know. - Good evening, I took the kids out. - Yeah, well, okay, that's the thing. I actually felt fine to go out to the birthday party that evening, but then out of respect for my brother, I was like, do you want me to stay home 'cause I'm sick and then he'd said yes. So I just didn't, I didn't come. - I didn't know of that exchange. - But I would have, I would have came though. Like, I totally was feeling fine. - You would have come. - It was the next day though. Our son had his first soccer game of the year. - Oh. - And I didn't know that we were starting at 8 a.m. on a Saturday. I didn't know that. I thought Saturdays were the day that we could sleep in. - No. - All right, wrong. - When days do you get sleep in Matt Howard? - Never. - Never. - But. - Sleep is not an exciting day. - All right, we're done. - You're talking about me being sick. It's pissing my wife off too much. I'm not even sick. I just decided that I'm completely healthy and fine. - That's what you have to do. - That doesn't work that way. - It does. - No, it does not. It does not work that way. - I've handled this disease way better than you have. - I'm not even sick. - You just, you just started getting it today. You're gonna feel way worse now. - I did not just started getting it today. - Did you have it? When did you start getting it? - Never. - Never. - Never. - That's the thing. You think that like you can outsmart your way to sickness? - And I did. - Okay. - All right. - Mom's can't get sick. - You guys, we sold out again with Biz Willa Beauty. I don't know if you guys got the news. We didn't post a ton of short form videos about Biz Willa Beauty this time because we didn't want to have a lot of angry people that went to go buy the mascara and weren't able to. So we only posted I think like one or maybe two videos about it. But it's still in two days, mascara completely sold out. You guys are insane. I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's in the water. But like. - Well, it's just a really good mascara. - I guess that's what it is. I guess the mascara is really just that good. - It is. But we're working to get a lot more. So then it's not just constantly out of stock. There's gonna be a lot come in November. - Yeah, we're gonna have a new shop. - There's always like, this is something I'm learning. I don't really know much about this stuff. but there's always variables that can make it later, but I'm really thinking it's gonna be here in November, right? - Yeah, and I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but I'm just gonna go and say it. Some of you guys did notice that Abby was using something special in one of her most recent makeup videos. So the comments were kind of on to Abby, they saw the products. - We have a lot of things in the works for his WB, so that's really exciting. - Yeah, how does it feel to be full-on, like Mom Tri-Penuer. - I am not for that. - You're a mom often newer. - Whatever that is, that's not me. - No. - What do you mean? - I'm not a mom troper newer. - I mean, you're a mom and you're an entrepreneur, and you're. - I don't really feel like I'm an entrepreneur. - You don't? I mean, you've literally the definition of an entrepreneur Abby. - No. - If you look up in a dictionary, what an entrepreneur is, that is what you're doing. - I don't think so. Next question, okay. - Okay. - No, I just really like mascara. - Yeah, that's true. I guess. - And I specifically like this mascara. - I guess with you being obsessed with mascara your whole life, you probably just know a thing or two about it, and so you just knew what your own formula needed, you know. You just, I love seeing how everyone's like, "It's buildable, it's like I'm making. " - Yeah, you can get the look that you want. Like if you want crazy spider lashes, you can do that. Or you want like more natural, you can do that too. But the best thing is that you can do it quickly and with no other products. Like you don't need a primer, you don't need to like, I don't know, do a million layers before you feel like you have some good results. Like you can just, you're good. - It's been really fun reading through everyone's reviews on the website, www.dashbd.com. It's been so much fun. All the reviews are there. - That one's your baby, the website. - Yeah, guys, I pulled, actually that's probably why I got sick is I pulled two all-nighters working till 5 a.m. on the Bizwell Beauty website. And I did that because it was when my parents were in town the first time, so then they were able to wake up with the boys and then I paused working on the website to help with the feedings for Fisher in the night. And then the second time I pulled an all-nighter was when my mom was in town. So then she again woke up with our three and four-year-old and then I was able to do the night feedings with you. But like, it was actually so much fun working on the website. Like I just got to nerd out about like, how do we make it as simple as possible? How do we make the banner have the information that we need to communicate to everybody? How do we make checkout simple? Like I'm trying to make everything easier and easier. And the website right now, I'm happy with it, but I think I can still make it better. So I think I'm gonna nerd out at some point in the future. Not right now. - So we get an app. - Get what? - Get an app. - Should we have a Bizwell Beauty app? - Yeah, why not? I guess we could. - Or one product. - I guess we could. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe one day there's a Bizwell Beauty app. But like the whole point is just to make it as easy as possible for people to check out. And what's crazy is this time, when we dropped people in Arizona were already telling us that they received their order literally within 24 hours of order. - Yeah, a lot of my friends that ordered got it like within 24 hours. - Within 24 hours. That's crazy. So I guess if you're in a nearby state to Arizona, you could probably expect to get yours quicker. And if you're like in Alaska or Hawaii, it probably's gonna take a little bit longer. 'Cause we're the fulfillment. Like we're going through USPS. So they're the ones doing the shipping. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So that's cool. It's so sweet. Like even my friends are buying it, which is so nice. - I know, it's so sweet. Like every time when someone, I almost like feel bad. Like when friends and family say they're buying it, I'm like, no, like we'll just give it to you. And then I'm like, but then I'm like, we obviously wouldn't have a business if we give free mascara to everyone. But it's fine. - That's fine. - I don't know. - What do you say about any time Abby wants a mascara, she asks me if she can have a mascara. - I do ask, Abby, if I can get a mascara. - You're like, Abby, can I give free mascara? - She's like, yeah, they're, she's like, yeah, you can have it, I was like, there's a note on it and says, ask, Abby, before you, I don't know. I don't want to mess up any system. - Well, yeah, it is, it is like a new, it's been a new adventure. It's been, it's been really fun. Like, I'm excited for the new drop. And I'm excited for you guys to get to see all the products and the works that Abby has been working diligently on. The thing though is like, there was a product that we thought might be ready for the end of the year, but it's going to get pushed into the new year. Because we just, we just don't want to rush anything. Like, we want to make sure that it's genuinely good and with the factory, like they have this, they have this whole review process where they have a ton of different people review the product, rate the product, fill out like all these questionnaires on the product and then also do like tests over time to make sure that it's not just good right when you open the bottle, but it's good, you know, - Accessibility test? - Yes, stability test, thank you. Abby's better with the terminology than me. So that's in the works too on one of our upcoming exciting products. - I know. - So super, super proud of you, babe. - Thank you. I'm excited for everyone to experience it. But also it's just been, it's one of those things where there's so many exciting things going on in life that it's like, that's why I cannot identify as an entrepreneur. I'm like, it doesn't get the majority of my brain. The majority of my brain is literally going to keeping him alive and happy. - Yeah, and you're doing a great job. - He's doing great. Boy, but yeah, I've been really actually loving nursing this time. Way better this time around. - What made the times the charm? - In the past with nursing, like what was going on that made it not as good? Were you getting bit more? - No, our second just didn't really like it as much. - Okay. - So then I just felt like I was inconveniencing him by breastfeeding him. He was like, I just want to bottle like the whole time. But then he likes it because he doesn't take a binky, so he really likes it. - Can we talk about the fact that he's been sick now for like a while, which is so sad. We keep taking him into the doctor, but they just, you know, they say turn on the humidifier, take him in the hot steam shower so that he can, not in the water, but in, I'll take him in the shower to the side so he can breathe in the steam. And I've done that like even in the middle of the night, if he's having trouble with, you know, breathing, I'll do that. - We're literally at 3 a.m. with fisher in the shower. - Yeah, literally that was, that really does help it. - That was like me a week ago. - Thank you to Cash App for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. And today's age, I feel like getting money understanding is very confusing for kids. - Oh yeah. - Kinda makes it seem like credit cards are like this magic wand that automatically gets you what you want. 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Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. - Where was I going with that? - I heard we're terrified for six years in. - Yeah, I guess that's a good point. I am scared for six years. - I got some Anuka honey. I got the kids on some vitamins. - The problem is our three and four year old, they're gonna be the ones bringing germs in to get him sick. We're getting flu shots, for sure. I heard that if you get flu shots in the beginning of October, - But they weren't even able to do-- - It's the strongest. - They weren't able to do Fisher's vaccine at the doctor, right? Because it was just him being sick. - It was just, yeah. It wasn't, they're not worried about. He'll get back on track easily. - You know that when I was a baby, I think I was like four weeks old. I'd get a shot like in my head. Like they had to put like a needle in my head. Or no, that was my brother. For me, it was something else, but-- - A needle in your head? - But my mom told me this when she was here visiting. Both Caleb and I were both hospitalized for multiple days when we were newborns. Like we both got sick, so-- - I got sick as a newborn too, actually. - Were you hospitalized too? - They did a spinal tap. - Holy frickin' heck. - I don't know, yeah. - Dang. - I don't even think anything was wrong with me. I think my parents just kind of freaked out a little bit. (laughing) - It's scary though. - My soft spot was spool, and that's what it was. - Oh. - Yeah, which can be really serious. I think they were wanting to rule out meningitis. I didn't have it, but-- - Yeah, it's really scary. - It's scary. I hate it. I really hate it, but he's never spiked a fever. He's been eating amazing. In fact, he's getting to pound in a week. - Oh, that's what I brought it up. Yes, even though he's sick, he's been gaining weight like crazy. A pound in a week is insane, especially for a six week old. - I don't know why. I know that-- But that's like just on him and like his body type. But for me, that's like the only, that's the only information you can really know about your newborn is like they're weight and like what percentile they are. So I just really locked it on like making him as big as possible. - But it makes sense, Abby. It makes sense because last night remember how I gave him five ounces at 3 a.m. - Yeah, and he was still hungry. - He flittered the high six ounces. - He downed it so fast. And I even took time to burp him, change his diaper, swaddle, all that. He's still, right afterwards, he started doing this. He started holding his head to the side. You could tell he just wanted more milk and I'm like babe, we need to give him another ounce. Six ounces at six weeks old is crazy. - He was five weeks last night. - Five weeks and six days. He had six ounce bottles. - Yeah, that makes you wonder how much he's getting at the, when he breast feeds because today I breastfed him and he spit up and he doesn't even do that with a bottle of six ounce bottle. - So maybe he gave him like eight ounces and he just couldn't hold it down. - I can't imagine that, but you never know, gosh. Good job, buddy. - That has to help, but with him fighting off whatever he's fighting off, eating a lot of food has to be helping, right? - Well, it just helps him peel off, flush everything out. - Yeah. He's getting, he's staying hydrated. - He's probably my hair. - He smiled at me. I swear he smiled at me yesterday. - Really? - And then I Googled when can baby smile intentionally and it said six to eight weeks. - That's really sweet. - So he's a mom was born for sure. - I'm excited to see when he's like, do we think he's gonna say mama or dad at first? - Probably dad at, I think it's easier for them to say. - Really? - Yeah. - Why don't I think it didn't make a difference? I thought it was just easy either way. - I think it's easier to say dad at. They mean mom, mom, mom, dad, it's easier to say dad at. - How do you feel about the fact that in two days we're taking that guy on a road trip? - Six hour drive to Southern California. - I think it'd be great. I mean, he does really hate the car seat. Actually, one of my friends sent me a really helpful tip for car seats. This is video of babies. It's not a good, we're gonna try it. But they add like one of those baby monitors on their car seat of their little baby girl and she's screaming in her car seat and then they turn on the song. - I got the ride temperature and then she just stopped crying and started smiling. So we're gonna try it. Temperature by Sean Kingston. We're gonna try a temperature by Sean Kingston. The whole way to Newport. - See, I. - I'm feeling super confident in our codler's ability to crush it on the road trip. Orson's trying on a movie. They're gonna be chilling. - Actually, I was gonna run this by you. I was gonna say that for the first hour they can't watch a movie. - I think they could do that. I think if we tell a movie-- - Yeah, we're just gonna give them the Yoda, let them listen to the stories and give them books. First hour snacks, first hour they do not need anything. And then we can let them watch them and then we'll take it away again for a little bit. Because I just feel like we're gonna get to our destination and they will be like total zombies. - Yeah. - You know how screens can-- - Because even though it's a six hour drive, we're gonna have stops, we're gonna have bathroom breaks. - I don't know how this is gonna go. - At what point do we start bringing water bottles, empty water bottles in the car, so that our kids can just pee while we're on the road trip. - I was thinking about putting them in pull-ups. - So that's a good point. - But now they don't go in them if they're awake. - Did you know that me and my brothers, if we were on a road trip, my parents didn't want to stop. We would literally pee in a water bottle. - No, that's what my brother did. Gatorade bottles were best. - Does everybody do that? Is that just like a bid? - Girl's don't. - Is that a Midwest thing for boys? Like that was so common. - Yeah, I mean, no, I couldn't. No girl can go pee in a gatorade bottle. - But I'm saying like when they're 10, like we're not gonna put a 10 year old in a pull-up. - Right now, I think the-- - I fully remember Blake peeing in gatorade bottles. - The series question for the park. - Oh gosh. - Do you think you could fill up if you had a full bottle of full gatorade bottles? - For sure. - Yes, 100%. - You didn't do good? - No. I didn't think Blake could. You could go. - Oh my God. - Addy, I've seen him do it. And that's what's weird. - That's hilarious. - That's what's weird about it. - And you know what? It just really looks like gatorade. - Do you know what this is? - 'Cause my favorite flavor is lemon lime. - Do you know what this conversation is reminding me of? - What? - Do you remember when we were in Hawaii and did, was it me? - Oh. - Was it me or you who would pee in Hawaii? - I actually think it was me. - Was that you? Did you pee at a coffee mug? - At a coffee mug. - In the car. - We just had no other options. - There was nowhere to go. - I sweared he was in a national park, and there was no-- - No, it was in volcanoes national park. - That's the national park we were at. - Yeah, there was no other options. - This was in 2020. This was pre, our Matt and Abby TikTok page. - Okay, so I guess I can't do a gatorade bottle, but I can do a coffee mug. - You have peed in a coffee cup before. I don't know how you did it. - Was it here? - It was in an rental car. - It was just deserted, there was nothing. - Wait, why didn't you just like pop a squat outside? - Because it was public. Like, people could have come by, I had to do it in the car. - Yeah. - And why are you pulling my hair? So yeah, I think the road trip is gonna go good for the first half. I think the second half might get rocky. And actually, I think Tiny might pitch a fit. - Oh, he's definitely gonna pitch some fits. But then-- - This man-- - You're just thinking about him. What makes him different than our other babies is like, sometimes he'll just have like a cry fit for like 10 to 15 seconds, and he just stops. Like, it's like he has some superpower. He just knows how to self-sooth already. It's crazy. He's like, ah, ah, and then boom, out. It's like he just needed to let out that rage and then it's gone. - He was also born a full man, because he grunts and instead of crying, don't you? Wait, look how cutie he is right now. - Aww. - Yeah, he's just pretty tough and pretty-- - Is he old enough to where he can see us? Or is his eyesight still not really developed? - He can see us. He stopped going cross-eyed. - But is it all in black and white? Like, can he see in color yet? - I think that's a myth. - Gosh, I forget. - He's not a dog. - I like knew the answer to all of this when I like the first summer round. Like, we were doing our research and now it's kind of just forgot. Like, you know, he's gonna grow up. - He likes me, he likes me the best, I've ever been. - He does really like you. - He's so cute. Yeah, I think the road trip is gonna be a little rough, especially 'cause you have concert tickets that night. - Yeah, okay, we gotta roast my brother right now. So my brother, or is it, are we roasting my art sister-in-law or my brother? Who bought the concert tickets for Thursday night? - I think Abigail made me respond to her. - Okay, we're roasting Abigail. So we-- - But I mean, is there are there concert dates on Wednesday? - I don't know, but on Friday. - Basically-- - No, we're not gonna roast her. She had the best of two. - She's ambitious. - Even though they had good intentions. Kaleb and Abby purchased the concert tickets for Thursday night, which is the same day that we're driving down. - So ambitious. - So now we're gonna drive, excuse me, we're gonna drive over six hours to Newport, and then-- - Not including all the stops for breastfeeding, which means it takes like 45 minutes to get to Newport. - So it's probably gonna be like a nine hour journey to Newport, including all the stops. And then we're gonna have to, you know, unload, get into the house, and then drive like another-- - Two hours. - Another like two hours from Newport, all the way up to-- - Well, I'm just saying with that, with traffic on the evening, it could be two hours. - Do we know where this concert is? - With parking and stuff, the Hollywood Bowl. - Okay, the Hollywood Bowl. So yeah, it's after parking and traffic, yeah, we're talking two hours yet to the Hollywood Bowl, such a journey, you know? Like, when you say you're going to Southern California, like you kind of have to be specific-- - I'm just scared to be alone with the kids after a road trip day. - Oh, I feel so-- - We're not even gonna be established. - I feel so bad. - I mean, it's gonna be fine. - We're gonna survive, and then-- - I guess the concert is at eight, and we'll have to leave at six, so then I won't even really be able to help with bedtime then. - No, you certainly won't. - But I'll be on your-- - I'll be on your-- - You're gonna have Abby come here. - Yeah, I mean, I've seen her kids go to bed. It's a whole different ballgame. (laughing) I admire her for it. They love to sleep. They love to sleep. - Like, are they easy to go down for-- - Yes, they don't come out. - Really? - Our kids come out like minimum five times. - How do we admit that in the bud? - What do we do about that? - I mean, I've tried to play tough on them. - You know what we might need to do, babe. - They just sniff my bluffs. - We might need to just mean what we say, and if they come out of their bedroom even one time, they don't get a show the next day. - We've done that. - But no, but I don't think so. Usually we give them one hall pass. Like, we give them one time to come out, one warning. I think we might just need to say-- - But you know what, I feel like it's usually valid. I'm like, they want a drink of water. They gotta go pee. - But they abuse it. - They have a bad dream. - They come out, they always have an excuse-- - Or they think of something that they forgot to tell me. And I'm like, that's valid. - The excuses are creative. They're very good. - See, they don't feel like excuses to do. - I'm like, that makes sense. - Having a bad dream, having to go potty, the way-- - Sometimes they just come out just to say that they are having a hard time sweeping. (laughing) They're like, I'm just having a hard time sweeping and I'm like, I understand, man. - That happens to all of us. - That's so valid. I'm like, you have all people should know that, Matt Howard. - But I think it's like, we're so lenient with them that then they just give us a run for our money. - No, it's fine. I feel like it's not a big deal. - I like to see them. - I feel like you grew up in a less strict household than I am. - I did not grow up in a strict household. (laughing) - If you could tell. - Didn't your parents thought you'd fall asleep with like Lila, which did play-- - I watch L every single night fall asleep. (laughing) We're about two years. and I just wake up in the night going bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum Wait, were you watching Elf in the middle of summer? Why are you watching Elf? How do you not, do you know me? What? It's nice to meet you guys. I thought this would have been like a, I don't know, maybe in October, you don't watch it October November December. You're around. You're watching it in June. Yep. You have Elf on in June. Of course. This, I, here's the thing Matt, I am consistent. I was literally in like third grade watching Elf every night to fall asleep. See my rebel. For you. Yeah. Okay. I, first of all, my parents would have never allowed that. But, but like I had a TV in my room. My rebelding was like reading the Percy Jackson books late at night to like midnight, I'd bring a flashlight in my, in my room. See my parents allowed that. Really? Yeah. See my, I never told that they just didn't know. They allowed that. Have you ever just think to ask, you know, they wouldn't have let me know what, does actually explain something because me, they're one of us are strict parents, but I feel like you're more strict than me. Probably. Probably. Yeah. But it's pretty low bar. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not strict. I'm not strict. We have good kids. We don't need to be that strict. Yeah. I'm not super strict. They just, they do escape their room. Every single night and every single morning. Thank you to NutriFull for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. I am currently in the thick of postpartum and this is not my first rodeo. I know how my body goes through postpartum and I can tell you that hair shedding is definitely part of that, especially around my temple line, right where it's most visible. Usually around three to four months is when I start noticing the most hair shedding and that's when I rely on my NutriFull the most. 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That's NutriFull.com spelled N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L dot com promo code UnplannedPod. Yeah, I have started though like the one thing that I'm pretty strict on is like, if one of our kids hits another kid or if they hit their brother, like then it's just like they're going to catch my rat for that. It's like time out right away and is it okay, the whole, the whole making time out, the amount of minutes that they are years old, is that, was that like from some like curriculum, like I learned that from you, like where did we get it? And I have no idea where I got that from. Where did we get that from? I don't know. I feel like we're scrapbooking our parenting style. Because now that we have a four year old, I'm like you're in time out for four minutes because you're four. Like that's just what it is. You told me that was two, I'm like, we're just figuring out how to go. This is something we are very strict on as non-strict parents is how they treat each other. It's really important to me that they are nice to each other and I'm like, you were kind to everybody but especially to your brother. But I will say one caveat with parenting is like knowing when to lay down the law and knowing when like the situation just isn't right and you need to like split your kids up and change like the environment and that's what's going to fix the problem. Like sometimes you don't need to like discipline and scold and all this stuff. It's really just your kids just freaking tired, you got to just put them in bed, you know? It's 1,000 percent. Like sometimes that's the problem and the quicker you can get them down for bed, the faster you're going to have the problem solved. Yeah, you're just really tired and we're going to have grays for that. But can you imagine if adults were like, well they did. I wish you did that to me when I started getting chirpy. They murdered some of you. No, I just know that you're hungry. I'm like, how do you eat that? Oh yeah. I'm like, when was the last time you ate food? Yeah. Have you ever tried feeding me more often? But can you imagine if like, if grownups were like, I was just like so tired so I ended up like robbing the bank, you know? It's like so exhausted. No. And it just wasn't my fault. That's ridiculous. They were tired. Only for kids. Yeah. I guess that's why we have to rule over. I mean, you don't get that even once you're even like beyond nap taking age basically. Okay. You need to fill me in more on this whole watching TV to fall asleep thing. Like when did that become a thing for you? When were you watching show, watching Elf to fall asleep at night? Was this before, after you had insomnia as a kid? Before. So are you like seven? I was like, I mean, for my earliest memories, probably like first grade. You're in first grade, seven years old, fall asleep to Elf every night. Was there a TV? Elf, I opened it up. Did you have a TV in your room? I was a TV in your room. There was a TV in your room. Yes. That was like, that was like the number one rule my parents would never allow us to have a TV in our room. I don't think your parents like that we had a TV in our room for a period of time as married adults. Did we have a TV in our room initially? No. I thought we had our TV in the living room when we first got married. I know I'm talking about in our other house. Now I'm curious since you had a TV in your room growing up, I didn't have a TV in my room growing up. Are we going to let our kids see? I'm a better sleeper than you. Are we going to have our kids rooms? No. You know like that? No, they're just so little I can't even, I don't know, maybe down the line. I feel like the question is less about TV. Well probably no, not with internet now because now because I was playing an actual DVD. Oh yeah. That feels different. I was playing Herbie Fully Loaded and L. Why does that feel, see why does TV feel classic now? Like TV almost feels like healthy. Like watching a movie doesn't feel bad when like scrolling social media. And that's what sad is, is like not good. And that's what sad. So let them take the portable DVD player with like Disney movies into the room. Maybe that's the move. Sure. You know, that could give them autonomy then they can choose- Like you have DVDs. Didn't you make Blake sleep in your room with you when you were good? I did. You got sad if you slept alone? Yeah. I've always been a co-dependent person. I'm in therapy so. You bought the portable DVD players for a road trip we did a year ago? Yeah, and then we got a car that has DVD players. So are we done using the DVD players, the portable DVD players? Oh my gosh. Remember that with VHSs? You had to rewind the tape to get to the beginning of it? Gosh, our kids will never understand VHS. Unless we get a VHS player. Gosh, I remember when DVDs were like the new exciting thing. Yeah, and then they got Blu-ray and I was like, oh. Gosh, this shows our age. I was excited because I bought off of Facebook Marketplace a Blu-ray player for our first apartment together. Remember that? We had rent movies from family video. Oh my gosh. Let's put them on the Blu-ray player to watch them on our TV. I remember that. That is true. Because they had family video had like these deals. Streaming wasn't that big when we first got married. Oh, I mean, it was big, but like family video just had these deals where you could get a movie for like a dollar. Yeah. And this is like 10 years after the Red Box came out. So it was like, does anybody still do Red Boxes? Red Boxes still around? No, Red Boxes is a streaming service now. Who? But why would you use Red Box? Like, does Red Box have a residence? What do you want to watch on there is on Red Boxes? I have not. Use that. Gosh, that was big. Red Box wipes out boxbusters. Isn't Red Boxes streaming service now? They probably have one. I feel like Blake and Addy know everything TV in movies. I'm feeling it actually has to do with that, but like they had a chance to buy out. Well, like, Blockbuster was the big thing for the longest time. And then Red Boxes took Blockbuster out. And then I feel like. Red Boxes took Blockbuster out. Yeah, because people didn't want to have to go. Inside a Blockbuster store, spend way more money on a movie and like, it was just a convenience thing. You could-- You went to Blockbuster every Friday night. You could spend less money and get a movie faster on Red Box than you would on Blockbuster. Yeah, we used to get free movies for our grades at Family Video. I used to get free donuts at Krispy Kreme for my grades. So we didn't have Krispy Kreme. And free pizza at Pizza Hut. They had a special. If you had straight A's, you could get a free personal portrait. I know Kris was on top of that. My mom knew all the deals for your grades. I love that. I wonder why they never tried to sell, you know, or maybe they tried to and nobody wanted to buy them because they weren't really worth anything anymore. I feel like they could repurpose those machines. There's certainly something else you can rent. But I keep buying for you. I'm not tired. I keep buying. You're literally gaslighting yourself. I'm not tired. And you know what, it works. I feel good. I feel great. I literally hate my brain right now. I love your brain. No. I need it. I want someone to install a baby monitor in her pantry for how many times I walk in there and there's not a single thought in my head. I just start standing there and I'm just like, you like can't remember why you went to the pantry? No. I gotta be honest, Matt, the brain fog is so bad when I finally get your attention sometimes because it's kind of hard to get your attention. When I finally get your attention, I get stage fright then. Baby. And then I can't even tell you what to do. I feel like I have been telling you what to do all the time. But then when I get your attention, I can't remember. I can't put towards what I need you to do. Here's what's hard about the stage of life we're in right now is like your plate is, you're maxed out. You're doing so much. And then like, I don't want to compare myself to you because what you're, you know, post part of me as a mom. If you just gave birth and you're breastfeeding all the time, like, there's no, there's no freaking comparison. I feel like it's not easy as a dad, you know, handling three kids, one of them is a newborn and a dog and all the work responsibilities. like hosting stuff at our house like we're we're both we've got a lot in our plate and it's just like hard it's a it's a season of hard but just knowing that it's it's going to get easier is I think what's really important to keep at the forefront of our minds. Yeah I'll get easier. I have a functioning brain. This is temporary. Also what you mentioned about going in the pantry and having a brain fart not knowing what you went into the pantry for that's literally the story of my life that happens to me all the time like I'll go upstairs and I'll be like why did I come up here and then I go downstairs and remember why I went upstairs and then and yeah and then sometimes it happens twice and that's really the way it happens twice. Yeah it's a struggle. Should I just hold our baby I could just like give him a little butt tap. He's just talking. He's so vocal today. He's moving he's moving a lot. Yeah no my brain is not really firing right. He doesn't really like sometimes he just likes his independence. Yeah we had a nap. I like he like he doesn't do that on my belly earlier today. It was kind of sweet. Okay how about we go ahead and play a little bit of would you rather actually would you like to go ahead and read off the first question for us. Support for today's episode comes from Square. 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Right now you can get up to $200 off Square Hardware when you sign up at square.com/go/unplanned that's square.com/go/unplanned get the right tools in place for the year ahead did started with Square today what would you rather wake up for the 12 a.m. feeding or the 4 a.m. feeding. We do both of them I mean Reese just like recently he's only been waking up one to the night. No but if I was like we're gonna split the night up I'm gonna take the first half or the second half which one would you rather take. Probably the first I get I get into deeper sleep as then I go on. No I just don't want the 4 a.m. one because it's harder to get him back to sleep. Yeah. That's what we were doing for that first like a couple weeks and I was up at four something and I was like that was criminal. Yeah. I was just also so lonely the whole time. Yeah and now we're we're tag team in it. He's even waking up one. I know yeah with doing the dream feeding we've been dream feeding him every night at like 9 o'clock and then he only wakes up around like 3 o'clock. We can't really count it as a dream feed if I'm totally honest because he's wide awake for it. Okay we give him we give him like a big old bottle at 9 o'clock. Yeah and then and then yeah and then give him an even bigger bottle at the one wake up. Yeah. Your baby sleeps to the night for one week at six weeks old but then not again until one year old or your baby never sleeps to the night until five months old. The second one. Obviously is that even a question? Like that's just of course you know well I mean sometimes maybe we could be experiencing this golden period right now with him. This is a golden period. No we could like right now he's sleeping pretty good but maybe he could. This is what I'm terrified for the four-month sleep regression. That's yeah. I don't want to do that. I want to I want to opt out of that one. However we can do that because that's almost worse. I almost think waking up or I okay this is my take. The four-month sleep regression is harder than fresh newborn. Where he's been so much easier than our past kids is he really doesn't wake up in the night other than to eat. Because he doesn't take a binky. No binky's falling out. Our past kid like both of our boys. Yeah our current children who are now three and four. Bro like multiple times the night just waking up needing to be soothed. Yeah I remember when Abigail said to us that she's never had to sooth her babies. I was like I said what do you mean? What alternate planet are you on? She's like yeah unless they needed to eat or we're sick. Everyone just has a different experience. That is crazy. Would you rather change your newborn's poopy diaper or your two-year-old's poopy diaper? Definitely a newborn diaper. Yeah his diapers are fun to do. They just don't even really smell and they're little tiny. Only liquid. I mean the only instance would be if like they're peeing on my face but like that doesn't really happen. He only peed on me once so far. I've only gotten peed on once. Okay well. Wait have I got no twice. I've gotten peed on like 20 times. Really? Yes minimum. Okay. What I usually do is I just get all the farts and poops out. I just do all the leg maneuvers in the night so that he gets everything out before I take the diaper off. That's so good. It's like a pretty diaper change routine that I do. Would you rather go on a five-hour solo flight with your 10-month-old or a five-hour drive with your six- week-old? Definitely the drive with this six-week-old. Six-week-old is probably going to sleep the entire time. Ten-month-old trying to fly with a 10-month-old is insane. I have I have logged like last when we've done that in the past with Ogi like he would be crawling up and down the aisles. I'll be walking him walking around and they're too young to care to like watch Miss Rachel so they just like you just I try to read them books like it's it's like an entire hands-on experience at that point. A five-hour flight with the 10-month-old sounds like what it sounds like. I like a time to fly. Would you rather have a baby who sleeps through the night but only naps for 30 minutes at a time or a baby that wakes up three times a night but takes two hour long naps. Probably the sleep went through the night. One thousand percent sleep if you we are united. Sleeping through the night is just so much better. Wow I totally agree. Yeah. We can okay you just got to master night-time sleep. That's right. Addy don't you agree or would you rather than take that long naps? Probably long naps. Crazy. Do you know that when you're working again? Yeah I get it. See but now we have well he's not in school. Our older boys are in school. I just get I I use to get it so spooked by the night time wakeups. Like I was like I can't do. Yeah. What'd you rather have a baby who smiles early or crawls early? Oh probably. Why do I think crawling? Like I think the crawling is cool. Crawling is probably the worst baby stage. Really? I'm totally honest. But it's kind of fun to see him crawl around. It's like wow look at him go you know. Yeah it's fun when they're crawling at your house when they're crawling on an airport floor in a public restroom. Then it's just like a fun it's like fun entertainment. No they're getting sick constantly. That's why you bring some you know the wipes with you you can wipe your hands off. I think crawling is the worst thing. I think it's a great. I'm so glad that they're doing it because it's good healthy normal development but it is the most okay we're disagreeing on that one. It keeps things interesting. It does keep things interesting. Yeah. Would you rather have an early walker or an early talker? Probably an early mm. I'm saying early talker. Yeah. You want them. I think it's the worst part about it is that they can't tell us what they need or they can communicate with our kids. Yeah it's really I lost the whole new world. If it's just one word like conversations like if they just say I don't know. Goli goli goli go. If they say that yeah that's cool like I just feel like they're trying to say something to me. They want to connect with me. I say that because that was our kids like first quarter. Goli Goli Goli Goli Goli Goli. Would you rather do with a crying baby or a toddler throwing a tantrum? Probably the mmm. Actually the toddler tantrum. You'd rather deal with that. Yeah. The crying baby noise just like gives me PTSD. I think it's like it kind of puts me in a panic. I gotta be so honest with you. Our kids throwing tantrums does not faze me. Yeah. Yeah. In a crying baby doesn't faze me anymore. But like tantrums they don't. I don't know what it is but the toddler tantrums just don't have anything on the newborn like cry the screams for me. I can handle a tantrum any day. I think I think yeah tantrums. Yeah. I also feel like our kids are really easy to distract. Totally. Yeah. I can get their mind off of it pretty quick. Yeah. Would you rather have a C-section or deliver your baby on the side of the road if you were pregnant? If I was pregnant. Probably C-section. Probably this. That sounds terrifying. Oh my. Also like that. I just like thought about the risk factors that scares me. Yeah. Having a baby on the side of the road so much can go wrong. That also means I'm unmedicated. Yeah. Not doing that. Would you rather change a baby's blowout or a toddler's throw up a blowout? I'm so afraid of puke. See the problem with puke is it just like the blowout is contained usually on the clothes but the puke just it could be on the carpet on a chair. Well then I'm also like I'm gonna puke. Yeah and it smells so bad. I'm afraid of throwing up. Blowouts are more manageable than puke. You're right. Yeah blowouts. No problem. I either. - Cleaning up puke is one of my least favorite things to do. - I'm so scared. - That's just like the dad's job was to do. - I literally, I think that's something that I will never get used to. - Have you cleaned up puke? You've cleaned it up before. - That's true. We did have that. - And so through my bra. - That was awful. And then our entire family got sick. - Yeah. - That was a horrible vacation. - That was horrible. - That might go down as one of the worst trips you've ever had. - You know what, you was probably like what, 10 months old. - And then our car got stuck on the way to the airport and you were panicking. - Wasn't stuck. The parking brake was just on, and you're. (laughing) That's crap. Oh my gosh. Do not remind me to have finally admit that that was the parking brake. - I guess, I mean, that was probably one of the worst vacations ever. - We call the neighbors. - Okay, here's the thing though. I think someone turned the parking brake on while we were trying. - We were boiling water. - We were pressing all the buttons on that car to get that car to get out. - I know. - You, that was all you. - That was crazy. - Would you rather have a less than two year age gap between your kids or more than two years? - Both. - Probably less than two, but not too much less. Like I'm talking like a month less than two. - What do you mean? - Just because then they're such, they're so like, they're such good buddies, you know? - So you think the best age gap would hypothetically be 23 months? - Maybe, yeah, maybe. - Okay, 23 month age gap is the perfect age gap. - Like my brother and I are 19 months apart and then Griff and Oggy are 13 months apart and the closer you are in age, I think the closer you end up being to each other. Like Caleb and I were like, we, you know, hang out again, but like when we were kids, like we did everything together. - Oh. - So I think it's really sweet. - That's sweet. - Really sweet when you can have that like close relationship. - Yeah, I will say 202 has a range within it. Like if you're 202 for one month versus 202 for 11 months, it's pretty different. - Big difference. - Even I think 18 months won't even be pretty good. - Yeah. - Get to 18 months. - Oh, meawning, but I'm not tired. - You're not tired. - Yeah, it's all, it's made up. - Yeah. - When did you learn to, who taught you to like say stuff like I'm not sick or I'm not tired? - I don't know. - Would you say it's more your mom or your dad? - Prime my dad. - Your dad? - Yeah, my dad is never sick. - He doesn't, he doesn't miss work. Your dad's a great employee. - He's never sick. - If anybody wants to hire Abby's dad, he does not, he's completely employed right now. - I'm never ready to say it. - But he will never miss a day of working with you. - No, he could probably use a new job. (laughing) So keep your feelings out. - No, when I remember Blake took a sick day when he was working remote, and my dad was like, you're working remote, like, why can't you, you're gonna be sick? - Well, that's what I heard. - And then Blake was like, I took my temperature and I have a fever. He's like, you're an adult. Why are you taking your temperature? - But see, that's how I feel, when you-- - What? - He's scared of it. - He's very, he's very jumpy. - When you wanted me to cancel my meetings on Friday, I was like, babe, like I can't-- - I got the, I, that just really trickered something. I got, this is from my dad. I got the big, big time when you took your temperature as an adult. I was like, you're a grown man, taking your temperature. - Wait, when did I take my temperature? - I did not take my temperature. - I've seen you have that little thermometer on your head before, and I'm like, that is for the children. - When was that? - Put that thing away. - You're saying you've never taken your temperature, but that thing-- - I probably have, at some point in the past four years. - That was achy, never did that again. - Wow, I will never, I'll never do that. I'm a little worried about being trapped in a car for-- Actually, okay, I'm excited. I'm excited to be trapped in a car with our whole family for the whole day, two days in a row. - I can't tell if you're being serious or sorry. - I can't either, honestly. I think you could go really good, I'm really bad. Here's the thing, we have road tripped with like a baby that's one, like six weeks old with each kid, because I don't like flying with them until they have like all their-- - All the show-ups, yeah. - Three months to get like a lot of vaccines. - The vaccines. - So I don't like that until, so but I still want it, I'm itchy to travel. And road tripping feels like a good way to like, dip your toes in and get used to like get out of the house and get a little, get a little the stir craziness out, but I'm a little worried about it. - I'm excited to go to the beach. - Oh my god. - I'm excited for some cooler weather. - It's been so hot still. - I'm sick of the heat here. Even in September, I'm like, how was it? - I think that's what he needs. He needs to get outside. - How is it over 100? - I can't be outside when it's like over 100. - I'm excited to take the boys to Super Mario World or Super Nintendo World, I think is the official name. Our kids love Mario, they've never, I don't think they've been. I think maybe we like walked through it when we went to Universal like two years ago, but I think they were just too young to like, really remember. - They have no ideas. - So this will be like their first day- - They're gonna have so much fun going with their uncle and cousin too. - Oh yeah, cool 'cause we went to go see the Super Mario movie with my brother and my nephew like a couple months ago. So like the movie's fresh on their mind. We've even played Mario on our Switch with them. Like they love Mario Kart. - Yeah. - So I think like all things Mario just, they're right up their alley right now. - That'll be really fun. - It'll be good. - What are we gonna do on Saturday? 'Cause right now, the game plan is Thursday night concert, Sean Ballion, Friday is gonna be Super Nintendo World, Saturday, what are we gonna do at the beach I guess? Go to the beach with the kids? - Yeah. - And then Sunday we drive back. - Yeah. - That's a quick trip. - Yeah. - That's gonna be like really fast. I wish we had another day. - Okay, I had another day. - Should we add another day? - I don't know, the Airbnb was pretty expensive. - I don't know, we're doing-- - Newport is pricey. - We're driving all that way. I'm like mine is well, add another beach day in. - Newport is so expensive. It is expensive. - I just need to work out again and then I can clear my head. - That is what Subumber, I have like a, I've got to work out street going right now and it's gonna, I'm gonna break it because-- - You can go on a run. - I know, but I won't be able to lift. Like the reason I've been gaining muscle is from lifting so I won't be able to lift when we're driving Thursday. - You've been getting a lot bigger. - Thanks. - Yeah. - I've been lifting really hard and taking creatine. - Do you think that helps? - Oh yeah, creatine, protein, all that help. - Try to take some creatine. - Sure. - I'm actually shocked when I went to your gym, like yeah, they promote creatine. They're like take your creatine, take your protein, like I didn't-- - Well most of her recovery. - I didn't know that like that a lot of moms were doing creatine these days. I didn't know that until I went to your gym. - I actually don't know if you can do it while you're breastfeeding. So I'm probably gonna wait. I don't know, can you? Oh, I guess you can. - I just know that you need to drink a lot of water when you take creatine because creatine-- - I thought you were gonna say when you're breastfeeding I'm like, "Yes, you do." - But with creatine, it can mess you up if you don't drink enough water and you're taking it. - Really? - Let me tell you. The thirst when you're breastfeeding, I know people talk about it all the time. Here's what I don't understand. I get thirsty the minute he latch, or the second he latches, not when I have a let down. Like it's just immediately hits. It's like I got caught in mouth. It's crazy. I just need someone to remind me when you look in, like the feeling that you have postpartum when you look in the mirror, how did you get this when you were a postpartum when you looked in the mirror, you didn't quite feel like you like recognize yourself. Just even your face. - Well, I think I'm gonna not recognize my own face until I'm breastfeeding. I'm not kidding. - You know what, sad. You don't feel like you recognize yourself. - It's not sad. It's just like it's a weird feeling. Like I look at my face and I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's me. Postpartum is like you just feel like you're a newborn baby and also taking care of a newborn baby at the same time. - Well you guys, thanks for tuning in for another episode of Unplanned. We so appreciate you being here and sticking with us all these years of our show. And we'll see you next time. Peace!