I can almost guarantee that you don't need to be more creative. Like you are someone who creates storylines and characters and plots and scenes and sets in your mind while you sleep. What you might struggle to do is take those dreams and then do them. Like you might be someone who is more of a dreamer than a doer. If that's you and you want to figure out how do you get this stuff out of your head and into the world. This is the episode for you because in this episode I'm going to give you five no filler all killer hacks to get stuff done. These are five things that have made a huge impact on my creative existence. And it really matters because I am kind of freaked out by how easily I could be an Andy J. Pizza that doesn't have ten plus published books and 500 episodes of this podcast and X amount of clients and whatever. Like the things that helped me become that person that can start things and finish things. They are just these little things. And so it freaks me out to be like this is not a given. There are choices. There are moves that you need to make and I still have to remind myself of these things. So this episode is really good reminded for me. I hope it helps you realize more potential turn those dreams into done things. And at the end we're going to go through all five. We're going to start with the ones that I've been using most recently and work all the way down to the ones that have been the biggest deal to me. The most effective kind of life changer stuff. And we're going to end with a CTA called Look Under the Hood. It's a little quiz to help figure out what kind of brain you've got and how to get the most of it in terms of productivity and making stuff happen. Let's do it! This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is an all in one online platform to help you stand out online. Get your domain show off your best work, get paid all in one place. 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Go to quince.com/peptalk for free shipping in 365 day returns. Now available in Canada to qunc.com/peptalk for free shipping in 365 day returns. Quince.com/peptalk. Number five in our all killer no filler creative neurodivergent hacks for getting stuff done is put in the revs. Not the reps, the revs put in the revs. What do I mean by that? This is what I mean. I personally have realized that we all have different engines in our skull. Okay, we're not all running the same. Some people have what I would call a pit stop engine. They have this thing where when they finish a task, when they finish a race, when they get back to the finish line, it's like this little match box car on a track where when it gets the finish line, there's a little motor there and it gives them a boost when they finish a task and they go, boom, they go back around, boom, and it just kind of self perpetuates. That's the pit stop engine. They get back to the front. They get the pit stop. They get more fuel and boom. They're out of there with more energy than they had before they started the race for people like that. The key is to realize that the thing that's holding you back is starting. If you just start, you will get moving. That's not me. I start way too many freaking things. That's a huge problem for me. For me, it's hard to finish. What has helped me is realizing that I have to put in the revs. I am a rev up car. If you think about a toy car that revs up, you have to pull it back on the ground, pull it back on the table, whatever it is. I know this is a really intructural moment for you. Should I use a table? Should I use the floor? You can use whatever you want, maybe. You can use the bathtub. You can rev it back. You pull the car on the ground. You just pull it back five revs and then you let it go and boom. It blasts off in a sprint and then it slows down as it goes. All of the energy comes from the start. That's what I'm like with the project. All of the energy is at the start. I got to make sure I prepare at the start, both in the beginning of my day and the beginning of committing to a new project that I have all of the resources to start strong in a way that's going to last me all the way to finish that project. I have to know, I'm going to start this because I am super, super in. I'm all in my whole self is in. Therefore, I'm going to have enough energy to get to the end because every little obstacle, every time I get around the finish line, it's like a little brick wall that I go through. Every page that I finish in the picture book, every task that I commit, every page that I write, it's not a pit stop. It's a brick wall that's slowing me down and I've got to make sure that I rev up. So what that looks like at the beginning of the day is I got to put in my revs. This often means that I have to get up before everybody else in the house. Even on vacation, the ideal is that I get up half an hour and an hour before everybody else because I got to put in my revs. I can't do a day at the amusement park if I haven't done some journaling, some morning pages, having my coffee, having some reflection, maybe a cold shower or a hot bath, I've got to do all of these things that rev up my engine. I'm truly important I understand what those revs are. Sometimes it looks like even going for a run. Not tired myself of enough out too much, but just getting myself switched on because I know all of my energy is going to start there. And then I might crash in the afternoon and have to take a nap and do a whole other session of revs to get through. So that is just super, super essential for me. We talked about this a little bit in episode 545 with Jared Kay Anderson, who is a neurodivergent author and poet. A lot of neurodivergent folks said that they got a ton from this. I think we have kind of some different qualities in our neurodivergence. And so it was really interesting to kind of compare notes here. So if you want to dive deeper on this idea, go to episode 545 with Jared Kay Anderson. Number four on our countdown is second is the worst. Have you ever heard that dumb thing that kids say like first is the worst, second is the best and so on and so forth. You don't need to go into the third one here, but just distracted by it now. Second, they say first, the worst thing is the best. Okay, ridiculous. First of all, second of all, second is the worst. You know, in the Olympics, they say that the person that's the least happy is number two. Like third didn't even feel like they were in the running. So they're just happy to be there on the podium. Second really is like feeling like they totally lost. But what I mean by this is nothing to do with any of that. What it's about is do the second, the second thing that you do in your day make it the worst thing that you have to do. And here's it's a, this is a an ADHD adaptation of this idea of slayer dragon first thing in the morning or eat that frog. I think is the same kind of concept, but it's this idea that I've heard neurotypical people say like these are all kind of like adaptations for creative weirdos. But I've heard neurotypicals give the productivity advice, advice of take the hardest thing you have to do that day and do that first so that the rest of the day is downhill. That's great in theory, but for people like me, here's the problem.
That keeps me from sitting down. If I know, when I sit down, I'm gonna do the worst thing I'm gonna do that day, I'm just not going to be able to get my frontal lobe to take action on that thing. My executive dysfunction will not allow me to get my butt into the seat. I have to trick myself. I have to give, I like a dog that's getting into their kennel. Like, I need a treat, okay? I need to do the worst second, and I need to do the first best. So what this looks like is, I need a little bit of space at the start of my day. So if this is when I had, when this was when I had a job, it would look like I need a daily project that if I'm going to an office, I go in 20, 30 minutes before I have to be there, and I can do whatever I want creatively in that space. And so sometimes it looked like something rigid, like I'm gonna do a new character every weekday before work, or it looks, it can look like, I'm just gonna have 30 minutes to do whatever I want. Hopefully you're commuting in, you kind of get thinking about how you want to use that space 'cause you want to hit the ground running, but you want to get your butt in the seat. That's the hardest part. And so if you're not going to be able to do that, if you're going to start with the worst, if the first is the worst, if you're trying to slay your dragons before breakfast, if you're trying to eat that frog first thing, it's not going to work for you, because you're going to figure out excuses and procrastination. But if you say, I'm going to let myself have a 20 to 30 minute freebie to do whatever creative thing that I want to do it. Now, it might not be something you want to do more than play video games, or sleep a little bit more. No, it's still gonna require a little bit of willpower and excitement. That's what the revs are for. We did the revs. Now we've got a little bit, we've got some juice. Let's spend that juice to get my butt in the seat and do something productive. Even if it's not something that can make you money, it's something that gets you excited and in the seat, and doing stuff. After you do that, you might actually have, it might act almost as a rev, where you're gonna get some energy to do that next thing. Now, making that transition is not easy, but hopefully if you've put in the revs, you're going to be in the best possible space to have the willpower you need to move forward into. What I would recommend is getting the hardest thing on the list second. The second is the worst thing you have to do that day. That for me is just a complete game changer. Number three is become speed. Don't do anything else with it. This isn't a pharmacological hack. This is about wearing the same thing every day. I highly recommend it. Now, when you look at these videos, you'd be like, "Hey, Andy, you look different. You haven't wore that." Dennis Rodman, Camo, shirt, and a couple of videos. That's probably true. All those, this is one of my favorite shirts. Most of the time, almost every day that I'm not doing a video or not doing a talk, I'm not wearing my Dennis Rodman shirts. I'm not wearing my other cool whatever's, I'm usually wearing this shirt. It's the "Enjoy the Arts" shirt. It's a black shirt with a big white print on it. This is my cartoon t-shirt. I want to be like Speed Racer, which I didn't realize that's his name. Speed. I want to become Speed Racer. I want to be a cartoon. I pick Speed Racer because we're doing like an automotive theme throughout this episode. However, I probably my favorite cartoon wardrobe is Skeeter Valentine from the show Doug. He's got this huge lightning bolt shirt. Where's it every day? Here's the thing. I am a cartoon character, both in personality and in the fact that I need to have a super dialed in simple wardrobe that feels good every day that I don't have to make a decision on. Here's the thing. Your brain only has so much power to make decisions. You run out, especially if you're a rev up brain. It's double duty. Making a decision isn't just taking from your decision making. It's another thing that you're doing. It's taking away from your energy. Most people that aren't trying to be creative all the time and every day don't have to guard their decision-making tank. They're wells of fuel for making decisions as much as you do. But the thing is is that creativity is, if anything, choices. I love this quote from Robert De Niro who he said, "The talent is in the choices." And he's talking about the choices that you, what projects you choose to do, but also how you choose to show up in a scene. The talent is in the choices for all creatives. It is knowing, tasting the work you're making, rolling it around on your proverbial, metaphorical tongue, and then figuring out like, which way do I want to go with that? Should I make it red, should I make it green? Should I make it louder, should I make it quieter? Should I make this instrument, that instrument, should this be, that be, it's just this decision-making tree. The guy who does all the podcast music, Yoni Wolf, he talked about this like little binary, fragmenting branch, like every song is just a series of decision-making choices. And you need to guard that energy. So for me, I have to become a cartoon. I have to become speed, I have to become mosquito, Valentine, I have to have my cartoon wardrobe. So I've got like six or seven copies of that shirt that I know are comfy, that I know I like the design of. I have like four or five pairs of the same charcoal jeans. I have like 10 pairs of the same colored black socks. I've got two pairs of these Nike waffle, I think they're called shoes. You can steal this. I don't, you go for it. I actually sell the shirt at C.com/createdpeptalk if you want to enjoy the arts every day with this cartoon shirt, but I don't care what shirt you wear. I highly recommend having an outfit because it just eliminates another thing you have to make this a decision about. And the more that you can automate the stuff that doesn't matter, you have extra juice in the tank to make the decisions that really matter, that really change where you end up. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) As a neurodivergent creative, I am always trying to strike a better balance between creating versus just consuming. That's why Dr. Annelimke's class Dopa Meem take your brain back on master class, peaked my interest. She is such a compelling communicator and one of the things that really hit me fresh was this idea that you wanna embrace more things that make you feel uncomfortable up front, but great afterwards versus great instantly, but bad afterward. This insight really inspired me to action because this is exactly why I want to create more than I scroll. I am no creative prodigy or business genius, but lifelong learning has been a game changer for me. 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This is getting at kind of a different take than just do your passion. If you do your passion, you'll never work another day in your life. I think that, especially for an ADHD person, passion matters. I think it's a big deal that you're excited, that you're interested, that you're engaged. I think for me, from an early age, I watched my mom who I believe I get my ADHD from, just really struggled to do things long term that she really wasn't engaged with, that she wasn't excited about and passionate about on some level. And so I. I do think paying attention to what you're passionate about is important, but the problem with making that your entire productivity tool, your only source is being motivated, being excited. The struggle with that is most of what you're really, really excited about is stuff that is new, that is novel, that is fun and fresh. By the time you engage with that thing and participate enough to get good at that thing, to be at a level where people will pay you for that thing, it's not going to be novel anymore. Most of the time, by the time I'm getting paid to do the thing, my height of excitement has already passed, that's actually okay. I've learned to accept, like, that's the natural way of things. I would love to be paid for my new hyperfixation today, but that's just not the way it works. By the time I get paid for it, it's going to be more like a skill, more like a craft. And I can find ways to kind of shoehorn my current hyperfixation into those things, sometimes learning to draw, learning to make pictures. It's not the thing I'm most excited about, but maybe I'm excited about young and philosophy and psychology. How can I do a project about that? How can I make work for the psychology space? Like, there's a way of using passion, but I don't think you should build your entire business or creative practice on passion as your main source of fuel. Instead, I think you should eat, you should be fueled by sawdust. Now, what that means is, don't actually eat sawdust. What I'm saying is, this is a concept for the business world. It's this idea that at some point, the lumber industry realized that their byproduct sawdust ended up being their most valuable product, that they turned sawdust into all kinds of things. And they realized, oh, just our regular everyday activities are creating something that's really valuable and useful, something that is just us doing our thing. We're creating this extra surplus of value. So like when you make gasoline, I believe propane is a byproduct. What are your byproducts of just being on this planet? You're brain existing in this world. That's the kind of thing that I think you should build a practice around because it doesn't require effort. It's just you being you. This podcast is one of those things. The way I look at the world, the way I think about things, all of this stuff, it's just stuff that I was thinking about whether I put them into a podcast that had sponsors and supporters or not. And I just figured out a way to contain that stuff, to take that sawdust and figure out what kind of use is there in the world for this because I'm going to do it whether or not I put it anywhere or sell it in any way at all. This is also getting at what Jerry Seinfeld calls being a joke chuck. He's like, if you're a wood chuck, you chuck wood. It's just what you do. It's what your brain is just doing. Okay. Your brain is just creating sawdust. He says he's a joke chuck. His brain just works on jokes. It just thinks of jokes. It's just what it does. It's effortless. You don't need to be passionate about it. You don't need to be motivated. Now there's a few categories here for me. First is coping. What do I do to just cope? One of the things I just have always done to cope is draw. So I'm going to draw whether people pay me to do it or not because it's how I get through boring activities. If I have to be in some kind of lecture that, I mean any lecture is not going to capture my attention enough to give it my full attention. I need to do it while I'm doing it. And so doodling, making pictures, that's just something that I'm going to do whether anybody pays me or not. I like to make a picture of putting it on my phone and just look at it throughout the day. Just like it. It's just something I want to do. So coping. What do you just do to cope? Are there things that you just do to cope that could be part of your creative practice or you could build your creative practice from instead of just building it on passion? The second one is trash. So coping, trash. Taking out the trash. I love this quote from Massimo Vignelli who's this really legendary designer type designer. I don't know if he actually designed type. He's a big, he's a big, he's a big guy. He designed all kinds of really beautiful things. And he said, just like a doctor fights against disease. For us, the visual disease is what we have around and what we try to do is to cure it somehow with design. And so for me, this gets at like, I for the longest time I thought, I know that aesthetic, aesthetics are a big thing for me. They're a big part of my illustration career. They're a big part of why I'm an artist, but I never thought I'm passionate about it. Like it's fashion, like it's decorative. Like I'm just really passionate about this. No, for me, I almost feel like it goes into ADHD where I'm just distracted by superfluous design. So, you know, even as a kid, all of my favorite superheroes had the most simple sleek, like curve, like outfits. I'm like Spider-Man, Black Panther, Deadpool, though, Moon Knight. Moon Knight got a little bit too much for me with the crazy cape and everything, but still pretty slick, like no facial, like no extra facial features, just the eyes. I like the really simple costumes. And that means that aesthetics for me, it's not so much about like, on passionate about things that look awesome. I'm more like distracted by things that look like too much, which I say if you're watching this instead of just listening, you can see my chaotic background. But all of it is simple shapes, curves, like, I don't know, my aesthetic. So for me, it's like taking out the trash. It's just like, oh, this is something that I just do. It's just something that is effortless. I want to simplify things. I don't like, it's not something I'm passionate about. It's something I don't like. It's something I'm fighting. And that's a huge part of what I build my practice on because I'm going to do that whether you like it or not. I'm going to be trying to get rid of all the stuff that I don't like aesthetically. And then the third one here that is kind of an example of sawdust is surplus. So it's just stuff that your brain does. Your spouse doesn't want to hear anymore about it. Your brother doesn't want to hear anymore about it. Your friends don't want to hear anymore about it. They don't want to hear about you talking about and the choices that Kiana Reeves is making with the creative career, how he's decided to move through it. That's just something my brain does. I constantly am thinking about the journey of creatives. And I have been doing that since I was a kid. I would think about why are they choosing that movie? Why do they do that? Why do they make that? Why do they make that next album? Why do they choose to go electric? Why do they choose to go traditional? I just think about it all the time. And I think about, well, what if they made this choice? How would it positively affect the art? How would it have maybe affected the fans? How would it affect the career path? I have always thought about that. It's kind of a strategic way of looking at things. My brain just does that. And then creating this podcast, that's a container for that. Creating picture books. That's a container for that because I think in reverse. So I think about this is what I want to say, and then I work backwards into a story that kind of ends there. So the third one is just like, what noticing what your brain does? I think that's so, so essential. That's eating the sawdust. All right, that brings us to our final one. It's number one is look under the hood. This is the biggest one. This is the most life-changing one for me, life-making for me. But it's also the biggest one. And it's looking under the hood is about a self-awareness, but a brain awareness, a neuro-type awareness. If there's any reason to get diagnosed with whatever kind of brain you have, I personally, at this moment in my life, am not medicated for ADHD. I don't have anything against medication for other people. It doesn't really work for me. I've decided that I'm going to go without it for now. But at the same time, the studies are very clear that for lots of people, medication is life-saving. So the data of ADHD people that are not supported, the outcomes are so much worse than people that are supported in lots of ways, including medication. So I'm not anti-medicine, but it just, I don't love the way that it interacts with me. And I have tried to build my life and creative practice and work around my neuro-type and what's under the hood was in my skull. And I think it is the number one hack for being productive is going with who you are and understanding who you are. When I think about getting a diagnosis, whatever it might be, I'm much more of a positive psychology person that says, "You're not a problem. You're not broken. You're in a world that might not be conducive to the way that you are." But having that diagnosis, that's the best thing we've got to figure out what's going on in here because we haven't oriented our culture in such a way where we diagnose what's good about your brain. We only kind of know what's bad. And then so you learn that thing and then you can learn to work with it. We kind of diagnose it like this is a problem. That's thing you have to get diagnosed, although for me that was a big deal and that can be part of looking under the hood. What I am saying is that I highly recommend that you do like business writer Jim Collins does and he calls it Jim the Bug. He treats himself like a bug. He has these spreadsheets where he grades every day and what he did that day. And it's a way of like observing like, what is this creature? What can it do? What hurts it? What helps it? And then trying to build your reality around that.
It's not something you do overnight. It's something that takes a lot of work, a lot of effort and a lot of time. You know, the career that I have right now, the creative journey I have right now, there are all kinds of problems with it, but also it took 20 years to get it to this place. And I'm still learning about myself and what works with it and what doesn't. And I have this feeling that if an alien popped out of a wormhole and gave you this device and said this thing is unique in all the universe, it's the most powerful thing in the universe. But then another evil alien came out and killed that alien before you could figure out what this machine does, you would spend the rest of your life trying to figure out what this thing does if it's the most unique thing in the world, the most powerful thing in the world. But you do have that in your head at your brain. We are all in that circumstance and yet we don't take it seriously because it's just so commonplace that we all are walking around with these super devices that are completely unique. And I've heard researchers talk about neurodivergence and say there's not really such thing as a neurotypical person. There are people that are much more neurotypical, people that are much less neurotypical. But every brain is different. Every neurotype is different. Having a deep understanding of what yours is like is so freaking key. It is the biggest productivity hack. And so the last thing we're gonna do, I don't like to just give you a bunch of cool ideas and peppy up and then send you on your way. I wanna give you something you can do. So here is your creative call to adventure today. It is the look under the hood quiz. We've got a few questions for you here that can help you get a little bit acquainted, get started on looking under the hood. We've got three questions, okay? First one is going back to the thing that we started the episode with. You ask yourself, do you have a rev up engine in here or do you have a pit stop engine? If you have a rev up engine, completing tasks doesn't give you energy. It gives you maybe a little bit of relief, but it takes a lot and you have to rev up before you get started. You have to figure out what fuels this brain. Maybe it's a podcast like this. Maybe it's different supplements or coffees or teas or whatever. Maybe it is medication for you, but whatever it is, you gotta rev up at the beginning of the day or are you a pit stop person? What you really need to do is just get started because as soon as you start crossing off stuff, so maybe that looks like if you're that kind of person, start with the easiest thing to do because once you cross that thing off, you feel like, oh, I'm having a productive day. Now, you know, I need to be getting those pit stops. I need to be completing those tasks. The second one is, do you have an automatic or a manual brain? We did a whole episode about this, episode 513. This is about habits. It's about how do you get stuff done regularly? A lot of neuro-typical people to me seem like they have an automatic brain like an automatic engine. Like they start it and then the gears switch themselves, right, they have these gears that just kind of automatically come into play when they need them. This looks like the book of Tom and Cabots. It says, if you wanna create a habit, if you do the same thing the same way, it will become automatic. Well, guess what? For me and a lot of neuro-divergent people, I know it doesn't work like that. You can still have something like habits but they never become automatic because you have a manual transmission in there. And for me, what that looks like is, I can do more or less the same thing but I have to do it in a different way. I have to take a different path on the run, listen to a different playlist, try a different speed, try a different exercise. I could exercise every day but I'm gonna have to change it up and keep it interesting. That's essential to me. If you wanna do a deeper dive in that, go on episode 513. The last one is, are you in a drag race or are you in NASCAR? Which one is your kind of engine? For me, I'm more like in the drag race sprint car. Like it's just a straight shot. I'm going to go super fast in a sprint and then I'm gonna be done. I'd rather do like five sprints in a day in different directions. That's kind of why I like having five different jobs 'cause I don't wanna do the same thing. I don't wanna be in the loop on NASCAR and just go hundreds of times around the track. I can't do that. I need a little bit of this, little bit of that, lots of intensity, lots of breaks. That's what I need to do. My wife is exactly the opposite. She's more like a marathon runner. She's more like the NASCAR. She wants to pick the thing she's doing that day and she's gonna go all in in that mode. Knowing whether this one or that one is such a big deal. So those are your three questions. Are you a rev up or a pit stop? Are you an automatic or manual? Are you a sprint car or a NASCAR? That's getting you started on your look under the hood. I hope that you continue this as a lifelong journey and you build your whole existence around this thing. (soft music) All right, y'all, that's it for today. If you're looking for a weekly rev, that's gonna help you stay pepped in jazz to the max. Go to
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