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50 Cent & Andrew Schulz talk Rick Ross Beef, Drake, Kendrick, Kanye West + DaVinchi Ep. 103 | The Crew Has It

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50 Cent & Andrew Schulz talk Rick Ross Beef, Drake, Kendrick, Kanye West + DaVinchi Ep. 103 | The Crew Has It

The transcript blends multiple themes across entertainment, personal connection, and business. It opens with Firestone’s long-standing commitment to reliability, symbolizing trust in everyday life. It then shifts to Marvel’s *Vision Quest*, which explores identity and reality through the return of the Vision character, prompting deep questions about authenticity. The central narrative focuses on the dynamic between real-life actors like Michael Rainey Jr. and Gianni Paolo, highlighting how their personal relationships, authenticity, and on-set chemistry enhance their performances. The Street Fighter film is praised for its nuanced character development, especially Dan’s grounded humor and emotional depth. The discussion also touches on cultural phenomena like viral moments, youth engagement, and the power of authenticity in media. Separate segments promote business platforms like Square and Cash App, emphasizing convenience, security, and user value. The podcast underscores that success in entertainment and business stems from genuine connections, real-life experiences, and trust—whether in a product, a performance, or a financial tool. These elements together reflect a broader message: authenticity and human connection remain central to both creative and commercial success.

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Your vehicle doesn't just get you from here to there. It's a bridge to the people and places that matter most. It's how you show up for your family, your community, and everyone else that depends on you. That's why for 125 years, Firestone has been building tires with one thing in mind. To deliver products that are as reliable as you are. Firestone. Always dependable. Since 1900. From the studio that brought you WandaVision. I was an Avenger, but I'm not a hero anymore. The Vision returns for the final chapter of the groundbreaking trilogy. That family wasn't real. You sure about that? I had a father called Vision. How is this possible? Don't miss the two-episode premiere of Marvel Television's Vision Quest. Nothing bonds a family together quite like Mortal Jeopardy. Now streaming only on Disney+. You know, you include yourself in things because you just want to go viral. You want to, yeah. Now you got to accept you want to come back, but you don't act like you're going away. Because you choosing Jesus don't mean I already haven't choosed Jesus. I owe you, baby, I owe you. Baby, I owe you. Last one to the airport buys breakfast. Buy breakfast. Day one, day one. Damn, those are those custom GMX Street Fighters, huh? Yeah, yeah, these ain't got these. Mike, Mike. All right, bro. They ain't got these. Bro. Nah, I need one of these. I need one of those. Damn, they don't got those. Street Fighter Edition. Those are crazy. Balrogs sitting there. Kudos to G. They got everybody but Dan winning. The G-Unit Balrogs, you heard? Isn't it disrespectful how Dan gets no love? Who plays Dan? I play Dan. Ah. Well, I haven't seen the movie yet. Nah, when you see it, you're going to bug out, though. I'm going to see it tomorrow. I'm going to go tomorrow. Because he made that character so valuable to the script. You know how feature film is different from a video game, bro. I don't care how you look at it. Performances matter. Yeah. It matters. He brought something to it that made it interesting. I don't know. I'm conditioned to laugh at Andrew, so I wait for something to be funny from him. When you watch Street Fighter, you think about the different characters that you could fight in as the video game. Yeah. But when it's turned into a feature, it changes. And then there's characters that drive the situation. Like, in between time, before you get to the actual fight, it's then driving the whole situation. Between his personality, it shines so bright that you see that the fighter is being a fighter. Yeah. In that place. Because it's like, they need people around them that have additional energy or different energy. That's the only reason why. Like, you can't fight for them, man. You can only be there to moral support them. Yeah. I'm a lot of moral support. Are you the comedic relief of the movie? I think the character is more comedic, but there's some heart there. I definitely don't do any ass kicking. Yeah. Yeah. I just get my ass kicked. It's not intentional. You have to go on a little cycle if you want to. Son, I asked them, I was like, do you want me to get jacked? Yeah. Like, before we went out there, and they were like, nah, just be funny. But like, the summer, the summer before, I was ready. Oh, easy. That's easy for me. I wanted an excuse to get in shape. You got in shape. Yeah, I wanted to do the work. But it is nice, because it is nice when you have to get in shape for something, because it gives you a motivation. Hell yeah. You're sitting in a room. I commit to it. Look, right now, I go to the gym, I'm like, what am I doing this for? Right. Michael, we had a special relationship, Gianni. Gianni, to me, is super cool. Like, I make connections with the talent that I can make the connection with. Some of these guys, it's fucking impossible. They're great. Me and Mike talk about this a lot. What happens is, the character is cool. Yeah, but they're actors. And they're so different from the guys that they're playing, that it's hard for you to find a way to. You're like. Yo, wait. Yeah. Where's the guy? Like, the guy from the. I want you to be the guy. Yeah, and the rest of the world does, too. That's where their fandom, in that performance, but who they actually are, when you tap into that, it's when you start seeing strange things pop out and shit like that. What do you mean? Just strange energy. Like, they want to break dance and just do other shit. And he didn't say nothing. Are you guys talking about something real that I don't know about? No, no, no. It's just like, he's right. Like, people, they see the character. They call us our character. Names walking down the street. We go into the club. But they see me and Mike. And kind of what you see on the screen with Tariq and Brayden is, like, kind of how me and Mike are anyway. So, we go out. Like, we're in the club with bottles and all this stuff. Like, that's kind of who we are in the show and on the thing. So, that's why it goes viral on TikTok. And you know how important it is to live in real with hip-hop and youth culture. And this audience is watching these programs at the same time. So, when you look at Gianni's character, him and Mike were in college at that point. That's Penn State. That's what just happened at Penn State. Like, that is… Oh, wow. Yes. You see what I'm saying? You know how many people tagged me in that shit when it came out? Dude, so many. That's the thing. Like, right there. I said, oh, yo. Because, you know, I jumped on that right away. It's a little different, though. It's like Outlander's version of… Are you going to do that? Are you going to do the Penn State story? Hell, yeah. Looks like I'm going to be in business soon. That's every college, by the way. That sounds like a me movie. Wait, a white guy in college selling drugs? I'm on it. That's me. All right. We got to do a quick intro. We got 50 seconds. In the building, we got Andrew Schultz. We got Michael Rainey Jr. Street Fighter's coming out soon. Yes, sir. We finally got the boys in here. Mike, what the fuck is going on? Tell us about it. There's a lot going on, man. There's a lot going on. We got the GOAT. My inspiration for a very long time. Curtis 50 St. Jackson. Oh, my God. A long time coming. This is insane. We got Balrog in the spot. Then we got Andrew Schultz in the spot. We got Dan in the spot. Yes, sir. He knows. There's a lot to be… He knows. He knows. We got loyalty in the building. We got loyalty in the building right now. Wait, so where did you guys first meet? We met… Look, I came out to, what's his name, one of his shows. Just off of Rip of seeing him with Charlamagne? I've been a fan. I've been a fan. I've been watching him. We met through making fun of Meek Mill, I think. Yeah. Well, he said something about Meek, and then there was like… He had a little backlash on him or a little bit of… People were just being unsure. It should have came out of his mouth. Yeah. Well, that was later. Yeah. But that was Kendrick. That was Kendrick. That was later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when these things was happening, and I'm like… Oh, no. It was Diddy or something. I was doing like the forum in LA. Yeah. And I had some joke. And this was right when Diddy got locked up. And then, you know, he's on Instagram, and he saw it. Wait, him? I didn't see it. Yeah. That's his dream. I'm like, oh, shit, yes. Yeah. Yes, that was the right way to do that. He wakes up. Before he's brushing his teeth, he's like, who day can I ruin? Dude, we'll leave the club. We'll get back from the club at like 4 a.m. in Vegas, and all of a sudden, he's just ripping something. I'm like, dude, we just left. So, we were chopping it up. And then, I don't know if you did the MSG show before you came on the pod or after. Yeah. It was before. It was before. So, I asked. I was doing these shows in Madison Square Garden. It was like my whole dream every single day of my life doing stand-up. And I was like, how do we make it crazy? And I just hit him. I was like, yo. 50 Cent knows how to make it crazy. Bro, he's like, I'm in. I was like, this is not even possible. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm in. And then, we didn't announce. It, obviously. Yeah. And it was like, the show ended. And then, I was like, yo, by the way, we just got to make sure you guys never forget this night. And then, he comes out, and yeah, yo, and murder. They didn't just do a song. They did, like, a performance. They did it before. There was choreography. It was like Backstreet Boys shit. It was unbelievable. They lit it up. To this day, people remind me of that. It is like, yo, that was a super surprise. Like, all those moments, you can't redo them. Can't. Yeah. So, it's the most. It's the most. It's the most fun, bro. It's the most. Look at this. I had a moment on this movie, right? When I get there, and I'm like, yo, I really want to thank all of y'all for being here to make my movie great. Oh, yeah. It was 50's movie. For me. Right. Immediately. I mean, for you to take the time out of your life. Out of your schedules. And out of your schedule to be here. Yeah, that's so funny. To make this great one. You know, I'm kind of benefit the most from this movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And I'm like, yo, and I'm looking. And everybody's looking. And then, I do some shit that's not me, Michael. It's not even my kind of shit. Yeah. I'm like, I like knock over water. And it like falls onto the table and rolls off on to Andrew. Yeah. And I'm like, damn, I didn't know how to fix it. Because the rest of the cast is like, oh, shit. And I'm like, yo, you know what? Here. I said, here, take this. I want you to have this, right? At the time, I had, this is. It's a little more expensive than the watch I had on. But, but, but, but, yo, tell him to bring, bring me that box. Bring me that box. Diamond encrusted. I think it was a presidential. It was like a Rolex just completely bust down. Bring the box. Oh, you got it? Big Mario in the building. Oh, wow. Uh-oh. Yeah. I went to give him a watch. So, I don't know what style he would want. So, I let him pick out these. This is the watch. Damn. It was that one, wasn't it? Damn, that little bust down Rolex. Was that, that's the one with the, with the emerald? It got the emerald cut? Damn. Or the, the, the baguettes? Oh, my God. It's an AP skin here. It's a little Richard Milley. Anyway, so he just goes, here, take this. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm trying to say. There's a few houses in the box. No, no, no. I'm crazy. No, no, no. I can't do that. I can't do that. i can't do that i respect you too much i'm gonna get you well don't do that no that was crazy that was great and everybody and everybody there was just like was that real like because we knew each other before going into the movie so they're like was he just joking around talking about the other actors in the movie they're like was he just joking around or is that kind of like how fit he is and i was like i'm pretty sure he was dead serious yeah that's like the third time he said no so i'm just gonna send one to his wife but that's what he does on the set like cody rhodes like rented out like a boat for us to all go on and 50 got on a boat and you can see him looking at that shit like oh no he's not gonna do me like this and like the next week what does he think he is the next week everybody got an email and it was like there was an invitation and i think you were rapping on the invitation yeah so he had he had wrote a song about what he was gonna do and he rented out a whole theme park in sydney just for the cast that's sick yeah so it's like the cast and crew was there and that was the way i got it michael right because when the crew is there yeah cody invited the crew and they get a chance to bring yeah because you could they get a chance to bring like that's the energy the kids yeah yeah next day we was on set they're like the grip the guy moved the light it's like hey 50 actually like you work more than anybody i know yeah i'm really familiar with this stuff i'm really familiar with this stuff i'm really familiar with this stuff i'm so like whether it's you're doing a club whether you're doing a 50 cent tour a movie like is that your fun you know how was pacha oh that was so pasha's dope pacha yeah like five thousand people i didn't realize it was that big yeah they just took they got the steel of a century did you hear about that shit crazy they pulled some 50 cent louisiana shit to get it because they had just renovated that spot and they got it and they went bankrupt wow and then they came in so this is like what is it called brooklyn mirage yeah yeah because they caught it like pennies that was the lick of the dollar yeah yeah anyway it was fun yeah it was super cool man like it was five thousand people there so i'm like when i got there i was like oh i thought it was like a like a nightclub yeah no this is like a rave you know that's like 500 600 this is like the this didn't play i'm probably the first you are the first yeah like like hip-hop bars to do it if not i think i think maybe cardi went as a surprise like that but other than that then they ain't seen that like it's been boom boom boom boom boom boom boom yeah yeah yeah shit blowing and shit like that all kind of crazy is that like a night when you're performing even though that's still work is that still your fun like what do you do when you like want to you know that feels like it's a different work but it's not i'm conditioned for it right so it feels like fun okay be honest with you because you know what happens to me especially in a nightclub i don't feel pressured doing that like i'm just i go into it and i know the words bro yeah so when i'm doing it it's just i'll figure out a sequence that feels good and then do that and i'll change that around every now and then yeah you know according to where i'm at or things that i might hear something i didn't go now i'm gonna do that i'm bugging i'm gonna do that tonight yeah it is the greatest asset in history like people talk about gold and silver and shit but like a hit song yeah like you'll eat 10 hit songs 20 hits yeah you got consecutives you straight right it's like it gives you a period of time yeah you know like when you got and you know what is what's ill is the person for the person that's in college at that point you're the music of their life bro of the of the formative years of their life yeah because that right there that breaks the ice for them to go ahead you know when that song come on at 1am there's like the the hottest right now and everybody is deciding to have a good time at one time right there and this is when they kind of connect but you said some shit when we were doing the pod about how all the people in like positions of power right now yeah were raised by you well they was in look they was in that period the people who was in college during that time period 03 05 now they're the ceos they run the world i swear to god they run the world but when they were 18 they were bopping their heads yeah that's interesting because that's also how i feel like with this podcast like if you watch power they're going to throw a ton of money at the podcast because they know who me and michael are yeah but if you if you don't if they don't know it they're like well why would we sponsor we don't know so it's like if imagine now having everybody and then all those people are now ceos and this and that like you essentially can do any business deal you want this podcast is needed some of them i don't understand what's going on right because it's too so much representation of the same thing yeah but this is like when you bring like actors in this on different prof look they have to be acknowledged on award shows for you to see them outside of work where do where do they recognize acting talent away from that this is what but yeah the special thing about that in in addition to that anywhere i'm at they're recognized that's the difference bro like when we out it could be coachella it could be where whatever the big festivals you're the context and as soon as i'm getting ready to do the theme song they know they're walking out onto the stage and people look and go oh that's mike oh that's that that they know it and it's a different connection from that and then what it's like it's like seeing your teacher outside of school you ever seen your teacher at like a restaurant you're like who is this like and then you because you can't imagine them outside of that space so you you frame it you give context for the space yeah and like it's so cool because they they actually like like like michael had do-rag going back when they oh three years like this what i had to have his ways and so like it's certain things that there was already a connection without being able to communicate it so when he got like he was on power this is how long power has been a success bro he was 12. oh wow yeah he got he's it's been he's grown like he's strapped he's strapped he's got a strap on he's got a strap no but it is interesting though like you guys if if your relationship is similar to what it is in the show it enhances the show of course but like you said like not everybody is the character right and we want to see you as the character yeah but this is what happens when you work together you'll find out if you actually like each other yeah because afterwards like when you're done yeah how often you communicate or often you kick it because it's a lot of people on set with you bro like you you can have them but but also like you don't want to break the facade like imagine you saw tony soprano in interviews and he was just like from england yeah yeah different it would break your brain right you're like i want you to be tony all the time i feel like there are some people and you can actually tell me if you feel like it's like some people also uh because it's almost like a gift because sometimes people will try and be their character yeah no that's what happens when that happens that might be worse yeah it gets nutty that's definitely worse yeah but think about it like the whole world sees you in a way you start falling into their idea of you like i always wondered this with the the like the ross guy from friends it's like that show was so popular yeah there's no way people could see you different than your character yeah and like do you start getting jealous of the character you know they start to embrace the character and then it's almost like they didn't hear cut yeah because people love them more when they're they want to love they don't want to be like i'll just be this guy all the time yeah but but but you actually i think i think you actually have to be it naturally because if you are putting on a facade some rappers some rappers it gets it it you know it'll show and if you keep if you keep doing interviews and stuff but if you like stay in the tuck they don't think that you guys are serious i think that's there because they don't know they don't know like it's like but look movies require stars they require someone that you see and you say y'all want to see that yeah like you got a minute and 30 seconds to convince people right the the television requires talent interesting when when they they may not have as much range michael but they know the character and they can play the character they become the character yeah we accept it and they won't be able to do like what little misha was doing when you saw him at bmf that's all he can do like he doesn't have the ability to do the other things because he just started working like he just started on that and then it's a difference like and they would compare him to other talent and i liked it because it was like it was making them i thought that would make him want to work yeah to keep up with them yeah have a lane and then also like he got in like there was stuff that was like no it was happening look yeah look and i did that i know i put him on before the show i got him oh really and that is that is the white equivalent of power in my opinion that's like what's popping at the time it's like if you're on both of those shows you're out of here you're out of here oh you got to be on yellowstone between those three yeah yeah imagine if you were on yellowstone and power oh my god you'd be the most famous person i'm playing yo we're going to take a break from the episode to talk about our boys from prize picks which you know we love oh so much 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Yeah. It was just you wish for something, and it came true in a horror fashion. Yeah. And it was, the gore shit was there. That takes, look, that excites me enough- To go check it. When it looks real, and somebody's dying. Yeah. That, like, what we don't have the answer to is what happens when we die. So, it is always going to be entertaining. Like, action films, I appreciate them because we see people in life-threatening situations, and we know who to root for. Like, who's going to potentially make it? Yeah. Despite how crazy it is. But we wanted to see it look as realistic in a heightened sense. So, what's the draw for horror, you think? Yeah, that was my question. Like, what's the draw for people to go see it without a star? Just being different. Yeah. Because, look, if you go, so you can put us in the circumstances, you can lock the house and just say, okay, everybody's going to die. Oh, shit. Yeah. And watch people react to it, and it'll be interesting enough to watch if we have the right actors in it. Yeah. Interesting. Because the genre itself is already going to have draw. This is why it makes the most money. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That particular genre. They don't have to spend the money to maximize it. Like, if you say, look at the film we're in, right? Mm-hmm. That movie, like, this is intended, an intended hit. Yeah. So, I kind of look at the business, when you take a step back from it, it's like, you got to work. You don't spend this type of money hoping. Yes. No, you know that this is going to work. This shit is going to work. Trust me, man. I wouldn't be in this motherfucker, Mike, if I didn't know it was going to work. This is why I don't give a fuck about buying an amusement park. I know. Because I know what happens tomorrow. I know. I know that he thinks it's going to work because he's still calling it his movie. If he didn't think it was going to work, he'd be like, man, this is Noah's movie, Schultz's movie, man. Good luck with all that. Look, this shit don't do well. That was Noah's. Wait, that's my question. So, when you were making stuff like Get Rich or Die Trying or In the Club, like the films, did you know how big they were going to be? Or did. You know. Were you like, I'm 50 Cent, like, it's gonna. Or you didn't know at that time? You know what happens? At that point. I'm in like a musical zone, like in a place where all my thoughts are working. Because I was not just selling lyrical ability. Like, you got guys that can sit and. They use these detailed punchlines and shit, like when you watch the battle rappers and shit like that. These guys are very talented, the intricate way that they put these things together. But they can't make a hit. They can't make a record to save their life. Yeah. Right? My interest is not to be complex like that. I say things that have double meanings. So, it's like the, I love you like a fat kid loves cake. And when they smile when I say that line, I know that they're envisioning a fat kid with cake. And I really also meant, I love you, but too much of you is no good for me. So, there's. Like, the balance. That's why the line was dope to me. Because it had both meanings in it. And I'm like, I could tell how it registered by how the audience responded when I said it. Yeah. And then, like, that's the cool part. And it's not, like, you don't feel the punchline when I say it, but the line is there. Right. Yeah. And then, when you. Look, the cool part, I think simplicity is a big part of hit. Like, cool shit. Like, Cardi is a hit. Cardi B. Yeah. Who she is. Is a hit. Is a hit. Yeah. Because it changes. Sexy Red. But, look, that Sexy Red, that changes. What Sexy Red is not. This is hood shit. Like, their mentality is entertaining to watch without the hit record. Yeah. They were already going viral just being who they are. Yeah. And, look, Cardi's from the graveyard. She came out the graveyard, bro. Loving hip-hop. Everybody that was there was dying. That was the dead hip-hop section. Like, the people who couldn't expect to have hit records and do things, they went to go do loving hip-hop and be. Oh, wow. At the same time. She came out of that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, what? This shit is crazy. Like, I was. Look at it. But she was so undeniable, bro. Yeah. Even watching her in interviews early on. It was just absolutely. No, no, no. It was almost like. It was comedic. It was. The way she was responding was comedic, and that makes her bulletproof. Yeah. Like, you know how, no matter what happens to the comedian, they can utilize it the right way, and it can actually fucking work for them. It can be positive. Yeah. Anything that someone else would. It would damage who they are, because they presented themselves in a certain way. And for the comedian, it just goes, yo. It just became more great material before. Yeah. So, before. Because you popped up, honestly, way before social media or any of that was even possible. Interviews, maybe, like 106 and Park, like, what really was. There wasn't much then, but you still came through with all the hits, and then your personality came later. Yeah. Do you think. It was in the hits. That's a fact. Again, I'm an outsider, but I remember being in the city and hearing, like, how to rob. And it was super rebellious, right? It's just like, nobody was really talking about each other directly. They was doing 20 G-Bets on one of them threats. I'm sending them Lex 3 TV sets, the minimum, ill-sex adrenaline, party with villains. Like, no, I was just saying all that shit to say, I don't like you, Jizzy. That shit was fire, though. That shit was super hot. That shit was fire. Look at how descriptive you had to be. To be like, fuck you. Yes. Yeah. I would just say, fuck you. You were like, fuck you. You're ugly. You're fat. Like, it was just so real. Look at you. You can't fucking figure out how to be ideally attractive. You fat motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have any doubts at all? No. You know what? Look, I had been bumped around. Yeah. I felt that energy on Power of a Dollar. Interesting. Like, that was before. Like, and that album didn't make it. Because, look, the day I got shot, I was supposed to be preparing to go. Oh, this is crazy. to shoot Thug Love with Beyoncé. Yeah. We already had the song recorded. That's why they had to shoot him. He's like, nah, we can't let him get out of here, bro. He records with Beyoncé. It's over for all of us. Nobody's eating. But it's one of those things. It's killing shit. It had nothing to do with the streets. But that was one of the notes that people, they miss it. Yeah. So, like, when Jay's saying that. When this kid is coming, you need to get as much shit as you can out. Now. He's aware of it because he's so business aware of music. He knows you're good business, man. Just in the business, he was aware of everything that was happening. Because it's like, not just. Look, when losing's not an option, you study. Facts. You explore what's going to happen. Even the blessing, right? That's, you know, opportunity to open up that you're prepared for. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Not magic happening. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to work for it. And then when you receive the opportunity to showcase the work that you've been. What you've been working on. Yeah. Your abilities, we'll consider that a blessing because you'll just take off. Mm-hmm. But it's very rare that people have those situations that don't have passion and discipline involved in their lives. Like, you got to look and say, well, I'm saying, no, there is no option. It has to work. Yeah. If it don't work, then I'm subjected to what you're seeing already. Mm-hmm. So I just go back to that. So what does it matter if I got a few rappers that don't like me? Yeah. They didn't like. They weren't my friends anyway. They was already down. They was already cool with John because they already was selling records. The rappers are probably the safest people in your life at that time to not like you. Yeah, yeah. All they're going to do is write a rap about it. Yeah, yeah. They're going to write a rap about it. Yeah. So, you know, like, and why that for the most part is what was going to happen. Like, they all have who they felt were dangerous. Like, who they felt was around. Who they felt was around them that was willing to go. Oh, that they might. They might. They bring those people with them. Yeah. Right? So they might. all could be subjected to uh erico and it's different kind of indictments now because they're bringing that person with them yeah like and and you see now they're not even looking this thing these laws were designed for sophisticated criminal activity right for mafia this is mafia shit yeah and they are using that for four five brothers on the block on the corner yeah there's no look on all these indictments where do they communicate anything about finances there'll be no money involved yeah you're talking about murder for hire with no money yeah yeah that's crazy i know it's ridiculous that's crazy i i went and saw that live and it was just fucking insane like he's you seen that little derrick stuff uh no i mean i'm aware of the story yeah he was on the last season of ghost yeah oh wow he got locked up like maybe six months later for a rico for a murder for hire that there there's no money and they never talked to him but he got off i thought well he still got a vicar 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and he said he said still yeah like because look if when he developed a close relationship with brian was his lawyer he's trusting me his life in his hands and he look for in the legal world like it's certain lawyers didn't look at that like it's not a win because it wasn't a win yeah that's you you got a great cop out you got a cop out and he's out on jail that's not a win to the lawyers that win cases all the time you see what i'm saying so if you if you was asking a lawyer like drew he he has to win the like what you just saw yeah he wants to win that is not he don't want to so he doesn't look at it like a real w this is like a pause right if this could till he wins the second one right and then you could claim it yeah got it because drew's doing it too and you you're doing stuff with drew as well right you have a well he got i had a whole tv show based on him hell yeah scripted yeah what's his name drew drew finnick i don't know yeah he's tough like he is derek's main lawyer on that this is why you're seeing the press conference him speaking and you know i like both of them but but drew is a little bit more i guess he was picked up as the lead yeah yeah i watched it all i mean dude it was they had been watching the case yeah i went i went almost every day he was going to the he was going to the hearings and all that way to watch it he was there i mean i've been talking to dirk like almost every other week like just everything like oh wow because like he needed you know what it's like the johnny depp case he was able to do that publicly shown like can you watch on court tv no it's because it's a federal case you don't have cameras in there but you can go and put your name in the hat to stand in line but like i'm in the friends and family so they'll just they let me let you in there yeah um but yeah dude he's been he was locked up for two years with no trial like sitting there now i've seen worse uh what's the name yeah yeah how long is it yeah i've been in there for seven years right is he was it was rikers for seven no he's in in florida no he's in florida who was the kid who was doing rikers for like this is some story for it sat up there all that time right yeah and rikers is at least if you're at like a like a federal place you could get comfy rikers for 10 years is fucking insane you probably uh kill somebody there you end up doing it yeah you're going innocent and come out of murder yeah sleepy sleepy just got out of there like what three months ago yeah yeah but he's the best sleepy yeah scrap just got out scrap made that boy go religious who who fabio farang is he that nigga got off that demon time quit i don't even know i don't even know scrap music be like that but i did that was the last thing i saw before he was just like yo he found jesus he did he's doing gospel trap or whatever right drill drill drill i heard a couple pieces to sound good though yeah i don't know what the fuck was gonna happen are you what is are you in five be cool or not or well he says something open his mouth he says something and it was talking about how when i was going back with the uh what's the rap rap up the rappers yeah and the podcast thing and and he when he you know you include yourself in things because you just want to go viral you want to you want to yeah now you gotta accept the shit when it come back yeah you know you don't know i'd like to go away because you choosing jesus don't mean i already have to go away and choose jesus so that shit don't separate nothing with me i'm still gonna tell you how i feel you just butt your nose in my shit when i can't just butt my nose in yours do you have a favorite beef no his eyes lit up his eyes lit up i want you to rank your favorite beefs one i don't have no covid number one cove is number one by far yo look i tell you the most difficult beef to have right yeah it's when the person you're beefing with is law enforcement ah oh yeah you can't do that you can't you can't do much because they're playing dirty no no you know that yeah but like officially no yeah like so you know publicly law enforcement yes when you get hot they're just gonna tell bro trust me on that one man you got enough people telling this out there that chose the lifestyle to not assume that someone who's been sworn in the office gonna tell when shit is up like so you know so i just really got a kick out of watching get punched on in canada yeah when that happened it was like what you see how you need because you can tell when they can't accept direct confrontation because it was like frozen like trying to get me out looking at security like get me out the joy that you got it's unbelievable like this you know they haven't been doing anything if you look back you'll see they fake shootings yeah they fake the shit like if you're going fake live shootings like shoot shoot at the car and then i'm going to run it into the bushes over here and crash it damn and then and the cops nobody got picked up for it they're fake they're fake shootings okay but like everything's on camera now like how do you even get away with something like that nobody hit nothing well because the rumor is rick ross lives two hours outside of miami so there's really no cameras out there that's what drake said that is he can only afford a house that big that's way far out of miami so there's probably there's no city over there he's just in the boonies now that's just a rumor i'm here yo now the big white elephant he got in atlanta that shit is just eating money man half the house not even on ac don't even work on half the motherfucking house man so one side hot other side a little bit cold you know so you would say rick ross is number one and the diddy beef is two no no he's he's funny because it's like you just it's that is all entertainment to me yeah that part because it's a cop to me once this is purchased one then when you serious get into it then it's not going to turn into it yeah it's not about it you know but that's a safe one that was because look at look at that look at it because the law is involved yeah yeah he's gonna but then does it rile you up as much because I feel like you need you like to be riled up you can say you can say ten things and then I'll say one thing and then I'll be happy because you got coverage because you just have things working nothing's working for them is there ever a point where you're like okay I'm not gonna let somebody use my attention yeah but then when there's nothing going on I go alright fuck it let's just have attention there's nothing going on when I got a dead spot my girl goes okay you wanna talk about Wingstop that ain't got fucking Tyson's cheap chicken yeah yeah yeah it's some of the worst shit you can have just sprinkle a little lemon pepper on there for you and say yeah bro that's fucking hilarious have you ever been in a beef andrew or no yeah too many too many beef how does it feel do you get the same amount of joy that 50 feels or no I think he gets more joy than any human I've ever seen this is childlike joy this is the way that like my children when they're with their favorite toys the smile that comes across his face now yeah I was I was pretty locked in on something and then 50 came and he scooped me out of it that was pretty nice wait what was it what was it yeah I mean yeah he was just he just pulled up to an episode that's the thing about him and that's why I'll really show up for anything you ever ask for you know that right like any anything is uh yeah he just he just pulled up and he somehow he made the thing funny you know this is like cause they try to make sometimes they they take things out of context and they wanna make it something that it's not yeah you know what I'm saying and that's the internet even like Da Vinci recently right they took that what he said and built what they wanted yeah out of it and then cause I went back I listened exactly what he said and I'm going so you wanna ban him for that yeah okay just look at what he said and weigh it up against slavery must have been an option or a choice who said that again Kanye oh yeah they're not treating Kanye like that Kanye can say whatever he wants all you need is a nice set Kanye went on black TV I'll come back on the top of the earth fuck that if I fuck up I'm coming back on the moon on the moon like this forgiven forgiven like what's the name what's the shit that helped me fly Michael um the little jetpack yeah yeah the cable system with a NASA suit yeah but what I don't understand is like the picking and choosing of the cancer like you think about like DaBaby like with what DaBaby said you gotta mean something to somebody yeah you know what happened to DaBaby he his peer is like NBA Youngboy Dirk all of these guys they all Lil Baby all these guys came at the same time like they came around the same period and he had a separation by having a big fucking hit record Rockstar so when you have that kind of record and it's working at top 40 and crossover nobody calls you to notify you that you're being like viewed as a star now I mean he's doing songs with Dua Lipa yeah yeah and so he didn't quite know how to respond to what was like the backlash interesting when it's happening and at the time you didn't have a publicist in place so I got mad at Interscope cause I'm like yo you're just gonna sit there like what the fuck so with Steve Steve Berman and them these guys like Interscope that's my building bro like I was yeah you never know when the shit you say is important yeah you don't know you don't know until people start reacting to it crazy and taking it serious and it starts building building exactly it starts building everything got so hot on the internet meaning the things you could say of course that we all got desensitized to it yeah you know you got desensitized to everything let's run the list of words you can't say you can't say retarded okay right well you can you can say that one I think 50 Cent can say them I don't think Gianni Paolo a lot of people can't say that I think you guys can say that I think you have a special set of vocabulary that 50 Cent can say he can say anything yeah you can really say anything no because if I'm writing in the music I'm going to say it the way it would be said in the environment but also you could just say it whenever you want and I think it's because because he's got Curtis Jackson no I used to think it was like oh they're afraid of you I don't think it's that anymore I really think it's like do you have people if you have people you have power and I think at some point it's like that's why these stadiums are like alright yeah Kanye do whatever you want like you got 100,000 how many people got 100,000 will show up how many people can do that so this is what happens it's still and what are the circumstances of him having the ability to do it so him being shut out for some time is why he can do it but it's also like alright if you don't have that then people will jump on you they'll be like how dare you say what the fuck is wrong with you it started internationally you know what kind of crowds that come in to see American artists internationally yeah he was going to Tokyo selling out like seven nights in a row so you can start that's right he did that's fucking right so it's easy to set a president there yeah they bring back all the way to America and then all of a sudden it becomes what the norm for this artist is but he never had those numbers before he'd grown to that point through that interesting so he used it and there's less radioactivity to what he did over there they're not tripping about what he said over there we're tripping about it here they don't give a fuck it was actually the coolest American artist they could have they were like yo now he's spitting funny I mean objectively if you look at like what like DaBaby like sure he said one thing what did he say I'm not familiar or if you can't say don't get in trouble but like what was his controversy he said you know what his apology was worse than what he said look because he didn't know how to stay dangerous at the same time while apologizing to a group of people and you're like what then they thought all of a sudden after that they put out him killing somebody in Walmart and that didn't you know what's crazy about hip hop culture oh DaBaby I thought you were talking about Lil Baby no no no DaBaby DaBaby yeah I remember that but when they thought they did that that was to hurt him and to the youth was oh is it helped him they were like oh shit because he'd be smiling all the time he had some Joker shit going on I could see behind his little smile that that shit is a little crazy over there like the heel I know someone like that actually no I'm telling you I know someone just like that it's so interesting it's so interesting that's why I like him you know what I'm saying because when you when you're not putting on too much but that's that's one of the things I really respect about you is like a lot of people will move away when there's some negative heat or in the wrestling business they call it it's like they'll move away because they're worried about their own safety and you really don't give a fuck like if you think the guy's legit you'll go back him up the apology thing is interesting though because I've seen people like sometimes I feel like when you apologize it makes it worse it makes it worse because I think what happens is like you're you admit you're wrong no no no no not admitting wrong we like like we like people taking responsibility but what sometimes it does is like the thing you do is often different from the thing people say you did so when you apologize you're apologizing for the thing that they said they think you did and it is completely different so all of a sudden it confirms to them this horrible shit that they've kind of concocted around it like the internet takes something that's honestly sometimes a joke or innocuous I don't know the Da Vinci thing but like you see it all the time in entertainment like something that's like misconstrued or it's not really meant to be like that turning into some hateful vile shit then you go out and apologize and now people are like and it's like yup we knew it so you made it real yeah nah it's true and then half of it because it's all distorted it's a telephone game they make it what they like it to be because they look at the headline and they're just like oh nobody reads the article they're not looking at the exact thing if people have the same opinion that's it it's gonna become that nobody cares about the truth but the lie is more interesting when you say when you spend about six months as an alleged right nobody comes back this guy man this guy man right six months goes on you're allegedly in this case right yeah never beef with Curtis man never beef he's got time listen all I'm saying is this right if you spent the six months yeah an alleged yeah yeah yeah and people are like oh shit sure yeah well he did like he did like to deal with younger girls and all kind of extra shit that's starting to come out in their thoughts and the things that they're saying when they completely retracted or when you can identify that something was wrong with how they built that case see the lawyers will do things to people because they know they have deep pockets as long as the person has deep enough pockets they go after them just because look they know that you would pay you would pay to get it to stop to not have the damage that would do be in the public before that once it gets past that and it's in the public case they chase it all the way down like you see in the Jay-Z situation he went all the way to suing the lawyer and looking at if he didn't do that the right way I just ran into the lawyer in Houston you know what I'm saying yeah because he was like at the children's charity like Tillman's charity like it's a big charitable thing that happens in Shreveport well in Houston and I was there and it was like the elite people from Houston are there Michael like if they're really somebody that's doing something they're coming out and that they're living on a level where they can help others yeah they're in that room so it puts us all into the same room and I'm looking like yo I know who you is and and and you were like I'm your biggest fan yeah I gotta be with Jay-Z shit no I be with him That's your favorite player in this game. 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And your body has a visceral reaction, like you and I, okay, Michael. I don't think he was born with that. Do you know Green Lantern's the show? Do you ever watch their show, Lanterns, on HBO? I haven't seen it yet. So in order to be a lantern, you have to be a lantern. You can't be afraid. Yeah, that's him. No, but look at this, guys. Like, I do have, I'll sense something or not, or look and say, yo, this shit might go left, right? But, and I look at that like it's fear. Yeah, but you look at it like it's fear, but you don't feel the fear. That's just awareness, bro. You just are aware of the fear. But this is what I'm saying. If you're not, look, if you don't have that thing that makes you sense, then you miss what's happening. That's fair. If you're so unafraid of anything, you just do shit. And then you get fucked up. You need to have your spider senses on a little bit. Yeah, you run into yourself. Like, you run into a new version of you. Yeah. And you're just on a good day, and you're on a bad day, so you're going to take that out at that point. And they're only like 15, bro. Yeah. They get a body and come back. But it would be funny if you were, like, afraid of, like, birds or something like that. You just eat breakfast outside. You're like, hey, drop this, and go. We went on the top of, like, this building. Remember that, Mike? Oh, the Empire State Building. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Empire State Building. That shit was scary. I realized at that point that I don't belong out on it. I don't fuck around. Actually, I took that video, and it did go viral, and people said, oh, that's so, I forgot about that. It was like, okay, we finally found something 50's afraid of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're supposed to be, though. You're supposed to be afraid of heights. No, because you know what happened? I've seen so many images in good action films that it feels like they fell off the side of it. And there's nothing to guard you from that not happening at that moment. Yep. So you look at it, and I'm like. I'm going to chew some thuds, too. Yo, that's like the plane shake. I'm like, what? I find Jesus. You understand? Like, your spiritual shit will kick in right there, where you're like, yo, Lord, allow this plane to land safely. Oh, hell yeah. Dude, travel mercy. I love seeing someone pray on a flight. Do you get nervous, like, A, shows with big crowds anymore, or B, like, shooting a street fighter or doing something like that? Is there any nerves that still happen? Because, I mean, dude, you've been performing in front of fucking hundreds of thousands of people now. You've been performing since you were 21 years old. I think if you don't have butterflies, because that's a little bit of fear in it, I think that you probably shouldn't be doing that anymore, whatever that is. I mean, or you do some stuff to get you a little scared. It don't take like a minute, like a minute into the show, and then I'm turning into 50 Cent. Yeah. So that shit is gone, and now I'm just doing what I'm doing. But in the very beginning, you'll have the butterflies, because the shows are never exactly alike. Yeah. That's why. That's why we like them. Yeah. And then when you look and say, so when you do, even with stand-up, so you're on point. Like, you just want it to be great, so it's a slight butterflies before you go do what you got to do. Yeah. I see it in the back. They might want to take a drink to relax a little bit or something. I don't like drinking before I go on, because I want to feel it. And some people, see, you want to really get into it. And I kind of like opening on something I haven't done before. And that's the roll of the dice. Yeah. Because, like, even for that forum show in L.A., it was like, the Diddy should have just happened. The Shohei Ohtani shit. But that's, you know, it was current. So I'm like, okay. It was so, like, he was like a newspaper, bro. Yeah. Like, the show comes on, and he has some new material that you go, damn, that was, like, so, like, it's not missing anything. Yeah. And that's fun, because you never know. But also, there's a little part of you that goes, I know everybody is thinking about this. Yeah. And that's kind of what. Because you've got to say it. Or is he going to say it, or is he going to talk about it? And that's kind of what annoys me a little bit right now, is that 10 years ago, everybody knew the same five things. The top line five things, everybody knew. Now I feel like, with the algorithm, we're so divided up, that, like, it's maybe only one thing, if it gets big enough, we're all aware of. Everybody will, yeah. And it's kind of annoying, because I like going up in front of an audience of people and being able to talk about something without, like, setting it up and explaining it. Right. Like, but it's got to be Lindsay Clancy level. It is really. It's got to be that dark. Yeah. For everybody to know what it is. Yeah. Yeah, but I like, yeah, yeah, having that little, like, is this going to go all right? They feel that energy on you, too, and it's exciting for them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but, like, once you get that first joke, you get the few laughs. Oh, now we're having fun. Especially if it's some new shit. Now it's like, all right. All the motor skills. And it's the same for five. Like, once he sees a crowd singing, you know, singing along with him, it's like, all right, yeah, now we in it. Yeah, I got this for sure. Yeah. It take a minute. Yeah. That first minute. And I used to be running out, so I'm like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, one more to come out. All right, so you guys got Street Fighter coming out, obviously. What was that experience like? Okay, he actually- Where did y'all film that at again? Where was it? Australia. Yeah, Australia. Australia, okay. Yeah. What up, y'all? 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Support us. We love you guys. Thank you so much. Back to the episode. Now, warning. This product contains nicotine, and nicotine is an addictive chemical. He was in Australia for a month doing nothing but film the Street Fighter. Think about that. That's actually crazy. You didn't leave? Bro, it was almost, it was like vacation. It was like vacation for me at the same time. Yeah. I was away from everything else that was going on. And then, look, I'd be doing like 10 things at once. yep because in different i got all these projects at different stages so it's the same work but for a different project and and it has to be done different yeah because of the you know the crew and the and the writers and people involved in it you know different things like for it was a lot different fight land was different because i had to go to london to do it right it's uk-based the entire show yeah uk-based so that was a a totally different energy and then i i made sure it came on at the end of raising cannon so that you had something to follow yes yeah yeah yeah i'm i was like 50s on air like this one goes off the next one come on like it's no but that's what people want like i remember you saying that to me it's like people would sign on to stars and then the second the season ended they would turn it off they would turn it i got them look i got them to do that once yeah look yeah i i waited this was a ship this is why um chris albert was at the head because albert yeah chris he did hbo he's like super like the top top executive type thing and then he when when i said yo y'all know what time it is like because all they had with when it's finished like i'll let you know when it's coming back because you want him to feel it and then 40 percent of their subscribership just on the only other show that they had was outlander and it was on netflix so it's like also a different demo yeah so yeah but but but like their only other original programming was outlander and you could already watch it on netflix which is the reason why it was there but then it was a pirate show didn't they have a pirate show yeah they had a couple of shows oh that's outlander okay okay that was the only other show and other than that it's only it's it was pushing they were pushing outlander outlander that's the power though man that's that i mean i don't know that was the one that they wanted to be the big hit and when power had this special special draw and special energy uh stars hate you a little bit no they learned to love me they learned like over time it took a little time it took a little time they're getting paid it's it's it's a weird there was they was doing the executives were doing things that was crazy like i don't have an overall deal with stars i'm not connected to them in any way yeah in any fashion right now so that's the power yeah like what happens is when we got to the end of it like i was pissed at them so i wouldn't even if their proposal was great i was like no i'm gonna with you no more like that but i'm connected to it and you feel like look look they were saying well how do we well let's put this this is an accident to happen this really happened right they sent me a voice note by accident no the voice note i'm in my adult for a day phase mike around i'm driving the car when i'm usually in the back of the car you know so i'm driving the car and i look and i say yo i call him back i said hey i said i got the your message you said um this is yes that was an accident and if you could delete that you know i appreciate it and i said okay now look i didn't get a chance to hear it i just told him like like i received the message but i've been driving right and then when i stopped of course i'm going to listen of course like right now because they told you to delete it you know yeah the attorney is telling the executive at stars well maybe we put this in the contract so if he says this or he does this we can get get like out of get him out of the deal all right and then negotiations so you got a friend over there by the way when this happens i go whoever sent you that you got a friend over there he up sitting there voice no but then chris when he calls and he says hey you know we got everything worked out with you know on the other thing with courtney and everybody else and now you know we just need to to button this up like with me and i'm like i'm not sure i won't do a deal with you he says what he says hold on hold on hold on a second he got off the phone and got on the plane and made it to me before i left the office at 8 p.m in new york smart and got straight to me and was like listen i don't know what that is like the voice note thing what is that like none of that like i don't even know how that happens i respect this that's you don't have to deal showing up with them yeah yeah you just me i like that yeah and then and it's like i'm like the whole 40 percent of of the subscribership that that that canceled it and said we'll come back when the show come on because we don't watch none of that other they're offering they're paying you to subscribe while wild power is why he's saying i come into the office he goes what kind of partner would do this and i'm like look i've been doing this a lot longer than me man if you're not identifying what you have in program issues yeah i don't know what to tell you and he left and he said you know when i walked out of the office i said he's way smarter than we thought he was but because he comes back and this is when we start to talk about the power universe this that wasn't a courtney conversation that was me being who they think is not so orderly yeah and that communication said well why don't we expand it and do different things and then with courtney got really weird between her and chris albert like she wouldn't speak to him without someone else from from lion's gate being on the phone yeah after and i'm like what the happened like like between the two of them but it was a a thing there that was weird yeah and then like i was like raising cannon she didn't want to do raising cannon this is why i took that project as my pet project away from it and then developed with sasha penn but that that was i tore that writer's room apart like i used there was so much talent in there john i did like that whole the original power room randy i got randy hudgens to do bmf heather um gary gary lennon is now on you know even the legends part he did the force um the writers that were in there they were special like that group of writers were special and i didn't have to go outside of it to expand like it was that room they already knew the dna of the show and when it came time to do spinoffs and do a new version there was no education process interesting it made it a lot easier and then it just broke open and they spread their wings they're not under one banner they all had individual hits and success on their own and it made it great like you know and then so i felt good about that and then i moved to different scenarios like when i don't need variety that to like to write a blurb about me that's all we talk about on this podcast is like we like 50 doesn't need the the the award shows or the variety of the deadline the instagram is the variety of the deadline yeah the clips from the podcast is variety done like and it and it arguably gets more traction than those guys yes it's the same thing with taylor sheridan yeah yeah he's he's created a world he much like you think he's the white 50 cent he's he's white fish that's a big compliment bro he's the white 50. sir but like low-key yeah like and there has not been any kind of like adulation or celebration from like traditional industry sources i don't think he's ever up for an emmy or something like that yeah you've won an emmy but he's created a world i've been wondering when they with me say what i'll be winning when they with me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah when you guys are aligned they didn't want me at the super bowl yeah yeah yeah but he he he just signed a billion dollar deal at uh not paramount uh apple so that's the thing it's like there are two things going on there's like a maybe like journalistic industry it bleeds into the industry yeah and then they are the the real players and the real players want audience and they want to make billions of dollars yeah and they understand who makes billions of dollars and they don't really give a as long as you have the audience so that's why 50 can post whatever he wants and we can't and that's why yeah you can do a stadium no matter what he says like it's it's what are you it's like it's really like a game of i can't hate to use this as like a pun but it is a game of power yeah look you know how bad people wanted drake to lose everybody except me and then look even if the record is a loss in context as far as the the battle yeah it's concerned i i had asked him i was in canada i was talking and i said let me ask you a question what did you lose and he's like i said no no think i want you to think about it and tell me what exactly did you lose and he said nothing he didn't lose anything he said nothing i said okay so don't get emotional about the state of what people are saying yeah that is just that is going to pass bro yeah and you see what happened he put three albums out at once and just performing because you can't just replace him at the present moment he's a hybrid like he's going to give you good r&b music and then some that we at actually like yeah that on some rap that and that's there at the same time so it's like so different there was a point where all you needed was a wayne verse yeah now look wayne verses have not tinked it didn't tank he did some did you go what the did you say boy yeah i heard some he did the the other day and i was just listening and i was like damn like what the yeah this was on a special drug when he came up with that because that was like some other like you know what i'm saying i'm like damn and then and they're not responding to it the same yeah it's simply because if wayne continues to be that then how the are they gonna have a shot yeah do you think that - What'd I miss, what'd I miss? - We were just talking about Lil Wayne and how All You Needed really was a Wayne verse back in the day. But do you think that arguably, besides you, Drake is probably the greatest to ever do it on this run-wise? - Run-wise, they can't take nothing from it. - Yeah. - Look, right now, it's pressure. I don't know if you see it. Kendrick is great. That kid is a special artist, like I watch. Like, I talk, I fuck with Top Hardcore, right? Like, that's my man. So, he'll play the music and say, "Yo, look, listen, like, yo, what you think?" I told him, the Swimming Pool record, right? This is before any of y'all heard the record. He played me the record and I said, "That's it." - Yeah. - "That shit is outta here, boy." And he go, "You sure?" I'm like, "Yes." - Yeah. - "That shit is outta here." And then when it hit, he was like. - Yeah. - To this day, he will play me music that's important to him. It can't go out. Nobody else can hit a shit at that point and say, "Is this shit what I'm feeling like?" Is it, "Are you feeling what I'm feeling when this shit is on?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I think you got another one. I think you got some shit." And it's like, I don't even care if, I don't know who the artist is. I can feel it when it's like, when it's dead right. - Yeah. - And they working at that. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? So it's different when you got. We kind of got. Like Em, I would play my shit and look at him. - Yeah, see if he's reacting. - Yeah, if there's no reaction, scrap that shit. I could do it again. - Yeah. - I don't want that. I'm putting that shit somewhere else. Let's try. I'm just gonna go back and rethink this shit. Like just rethink my approach and then figure it out. 'Cause it was like, we done albums and didn't put them out. - Wow. You have unreleased albums with Eminem right now, not out? - No. - We had "Relapse" too. - Damn. - And then we went to "Recovery". We skipped that whole album. He had a full album that he did. I have maybe two or three tracks on it. - Wow. - But a whole 'nother record that he wrote. - Wow. - On "Relapse" though. - And it just wasn't up to par? - No, he just didn't feel like the response to "Relapse" won. He scrapped "Relapse" too and wrote the whole new album. - Damn, "Recovery". - Whole new album, yeah. - Yeah. - Wow. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, if you're prolific, you could do it. - Yeah, yeah. And he's like that. Him and Dre, they got, look, they're crazy. Look, my crazy is a little different, right? - Okay. - It's a different area, but. - We know. - But they're like, look, their passion towards. - Music. - Yeah. - Music is extreme, bro. It's like, so it's like, you can't, a normal person wouldn't understand exactly what's going on. Like, if you just walked into it, you would, you look at it, but I know it's so much, like, that's his love. Like, what he loves. - Yeah. - And you look at that and that changes. Anyone who, they would look and say, oh, he sells more 'cause he's white. Okay. And it happens to fucking sound better than your shit. I'm listening. - Yeah. But everybody needs an excuse for why they're, where they are. - Yeah. I'm looking, but I'm saying I'm listening to the shit and it's better than what you said, nigga. - Yeah. No, I'm saying it's like. - And now I'm saying like, so, so I don't care about what, like how they look at this shit. And this, it becomes a bridge. - Yeah. - A bridge. Anything that opens the consumer base and expands business in general is changing the landscape. Now you look, you see Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Bentleys, all that shit. It was not that easy to receive those things. - Well, you think Eminem bridged the gap overseas? - It expanded. - Ah. - Fucking, I went. - Oh, shit. It's Conor McGregor for you. - To the places that he, look, look, he, the places that he touched, Michael, he didn't travel all of those places. I went. - Yeah. - Ah, yeah, that's a good point. 'Cause you're the closest thing. - To him that they. - That they could get. - Yes. And this is what, they don't understand why it's the way it is between me and him. - Do you think it's because he's white that he traveled over there? - No, it's because when they look at themselves. - Yes. It's Jeremy Lin. - They see themselves. - Selves. - Yes. - This is how they fit into the culture. - This is how they fit into music. - Interesting. - Do you remember Lin Sanity? - Yeah. Asian kids thought they could play basketball after that. - Bro, MSG was half Asian, bro. It was like a BTS concert every nigga. - I'm not saying they can't. I'm just saying. - Nah, but it was like. But it was like, but imagine you're a young. - And you have the fucking money to do it. - Yeah. - Yeah, but imagine you're like an Asian kid who's been hooping your whole life. You've never seen an Asian basketball player who plays like you. Yao Ming is different. Yao Ming is playing like a seven footer. You definitely ain't seven feet. So you see this kid go in and he's giving buckets. - Yeah. - He's waving Kobe off. Like, yo, watch out. - Yo, I got it. Get out of the way. - Kidding game winners, top of the key. - That must've been like an amazing experience. So there's probably a version of that with M2 where like white kids who grew up loving hip hop, embracing hip hop. And then finally you've got a guy who's not corny. He's nice with it, but he's also doing like an angsty white boy thing that didn't exist in hip hop. - Swag is so important. - And it's connected him to all the pop culture. - And it connected him to rock. Like I think he was pulled into almost like Nirvana-esque shit because of that like white angst. Fuck my mom and I'm on pills and shit. Like you weren't hearing the black rappers talking about fuck my mom. - No, no. - That was, it's I'm gonna fuck your mom. - Yeah. - It's not fuck my mom. So he had his own kind of lane, but lyrically he was crazy and he had a co-sign from guys like Dre and you. - And then you look at it and say, okay, who would have a problem with a white guy arguably being the biggest rapper in hip hop culture? Well, maybe niggas with attitudes. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Dr. Dre. When Jimmy puts him with Dr. Dre, it stops. - Oh, it pacifies the whole thing. - Everything is over. - Oh shit, what a great qualifier. Okay, here's a take I heard. Do you think that the Kendrick Drake beef was bad for hip hop? - No. - I don't know. - I don't think it was bad for him. - No, no, no. The take was essentially that like they're both gonna level accusations at one another. - Yeah. - And there's a base that could really love and support them both. And then they gotta deal with the repercussions of the allegations for years to come. - Yeah, and it's like, yeah, you become a pedophile, whatever they put on you at that point. And it's just their base saying that. - Exactly. - The people who like him support what he's saying while he does what he does. And look, if you say, I think it's a part of hip hop culture to compete. The mistake is when you opt out of the competition. I think J. Cole paid the most. - Interesting. - And he, look, is one of the coolest people to grace hip hop culture. And he's been able to do things that show you that his confidence is not connected to little things. Like there is no jury. - Yeah. - J. Cole will ride a bike to the studio and back. Like, and so there's nothing to rob from him. - Yeah, I saw him in the city on a city bike. He pulled up to the power set one time on a bicycle. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Remember that, Mike? He was just riding around. - Was I there? - Yeah, I think it might've been me, Lavelle, and Alex. - I think you were there. I think you told me about it. I wasn't there. I wasn't there. - He could get down like that. He went normalcy in the middle of what's going on. - Stardom. - Yeah. - Like you'll see, you'll hear him stop telling he gonna go play basketball. - Yeah. - He literally went overseas to go play ball, bro. Like professionally. He went overseas to play professionally. - Yeah. - All right, all right. To wrap this up, so obviously you guys got Street Fighter. You're doing more stuff outside of S.T.A.R.S. - Oh yeah. - What do we got? - I got, man, I have 42 shows. - Yeah, we get a call next week. - Jesus. - Of course, 15 different networks. - Oh, damn. - 11 moving towards air. - Fire. - After Fightland. - Me and Andrew gotta be in somewhere. - Just crazy. - You gotta be in somewhere. - Of course. You kidding me? - Yeah. - You call, I'm pulling up, man. - I went to Shreveport. - Yeah, he came out. - I took a connecting flight. - Oh, you went to-- - Of course, man. - We need to go back. - Yo, listen. - 50 calls. - We need that again. - I ran into some things, like the whole revitalization part of that idea, right? The city, I get into it because I like the biggest idea. Every time I approach things, the biggest possible deal is how I approach. I wanna do that. - You don't like that, or what's-- - No, it's just the idea of revitalizing the city without the city's support, exactly, is not a good idea. - Yeah. - You're never gonna win if you fight with the city, man. You can't fight with the government. - Their local stuff is a little crazy. - But you still plan on doing everything there? - I'm gonna do some things there. Look, I'm not not doing what I said I was gonna do, but I'm not in a hurry to invest and do the things outside beyond that because of the way they treated the situation. Because the concept of doing it together makes it the easier you know you gonna get. Everybody's working at the same thing to get everything back. - Government's different in business, man. - If they look at it and they go, "Well, we're not doing anything for you." And you go, "Okay." - But why not? Look what you did. - Who the fuck is gonna do it if I'm not there? - Yeah. - 'Cause you look around and there's nobody else there to do it. So I go, "Okay, no, what you're saying is you need time. "You need time to think about it "because you'll come to acknowledge "that there's no one else jumping up and down to do it, "and you will have a change of heart." Now, the mistake may be maybe I was a little over-excited, over-excited in my communications, and they looked at me like a rapper of 50 Cent. Not Mogul or anybody who-- You should have Curtis Jacksoned it, you know? Because if you do, because if that's what, you know, because I'm feeling like we're on the same page. When we start looking at, like, when the city is saying they don't have a budget for something. You're like, but you're the city. Yeah. What's the budget for? The fucking mayor is telling you there's no budget for that. And I'm like, okay. So, but he wants to have a meeting, again, a face-to-face meeting. Like, I have time to be in your face, face-to-face, for no fucking reason. Yeah, you already told me you don't have a budget. You don't have a budget. So, the next step, he would have to go to city council to get the money. Yeah. If there was no ask, mate, the city council, then you don't even have intentions for that to happen. Yeah. And then you look and you say, okay, so, yeah, I don't have time to talk to you just so you can feel like. Yeah. And you can go back and report that you spoke to me because that's good for your election. Yeah. Side of things, to have the communication, communication. It's moving forward. Yeah. No, you can't have that communication. Yeah. Unless something's actually moving forward. Yeah. It's going to work out. We're going to be in Shreveport. Listen, man, Shreveport looking like Vegas, bro. Bro, I've never seen that city so lit in my life. I don't understand. Like, what are they not seeing? Were we there for it? Oh, my God, were we there. I'm still there mentally. Bro, they usually have four to five violent crimes a day. They chilled out, bro. That whole weekend was. If a hood is going to send you a signal, they don't want you, you're going to know. You're not going to be able to do anything. Yeah. Right. There was no violent crimes for 16 days there. Yeah. Governor Landry, when he said, he stopped. Andrew, he looked at me and said, you can do that? So, yeah. Like, you can stop violent crimes? Of course. There's money coming to the city. I mean, there's stuff going on. Like, there's stuff going on. Well, we got to do that again. Yeah. Whatever that is, we got to do that again. Yeah. And then I get support from the state. They'd never received funds for North Louisiana. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get down there, they send the money down to help support. I mean, you have, like, if you have a bunch of productions running through those studios, they got to understand what that does for jobs, for everything. There's an element of people there that just don't fuck with you because it is Louisiana. Yeah. Like, there are some people there that call them old school until they say something racist. Get Johnny to go down there, man. I'll get my suit and tie, me and Drew Finlan will head down there. But look, look, look, look, when the ill shit is, the black people, they're not the issue. The black people are the issue. Wow. What you mean is that? They're conditioned to believe nothing's going to work. For so long, they've been let down so many times. They doubt every single thing that you're saying. They've been promised a lot. Nobody delivers. So if you even change this. We might get less than what we already have. Right. Especially you going with ideas as big as 50 is going to them. It's going to take time to do it, right? Even with the money there, the budget there, you still got to do it. If you understand what those large constructions are, the contractors and the commitments for that, that don't happen in a couple of conversations, Michael. That is legal. I got additional lawyers working on that. Yeah. So we go through those motions and then, you know, but they. I don't want to say or take an opportunity like, yeah, a little artist out there and say shit and you look and go, Hurricane Chris. Yeah. Is that why he wasn't there? Hurricane Chris made us do yours. Yeah. I came out to his song. I didn't realize. Yeah. I was like, this is the only song I know from here. I was at the comedy show. I came out. What was he mad about? He was mad that he wasn't invited, I think. But it's like. Did he get a paid show? But why is he mad at five for that? Like, there's. I mean, he's not the one. I made sure the song was played. Yeah. That was the only reason why they played this shit. But who's to say that he wouldn't have ate for the 10 other times that 50 would. Now he's on the shit list. Hey, that motherfucker ain't coming to nothing. That's what I'm saying. Like, who's to say he would have ate after that? But all right. We're getting the wrap up here. 50 Cent in the building. Andrew Schultz. We got Street Fighter. When's the exact date? It comes out. October 16th. The 16th. The 16th. I'm seeing it tomorrow night. I'm so fucking excited. This was a fucking treat, boys. Thank you, my boy. Dude, thank you for pulling up, guys. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Michael Rainey Jr., give us one. Listen, man. The crew has it. You have it. The legend 50 Cent pulled up. Andrew Schultz pulled up. And we out. Yeah. Street Fighter. Make sure you go see it. It's about to be crazy. Thank you guys for pulling up. We appreciate it. Hey. Buy breakfast. Day one. Day one. Day one.

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